Shaun Newman Podcast - #4 - Brothers RoundTable

Episode Date: February 27, 2019

I am joined by my three brothers Jason, Dustin & Harley. We discuss in depth the Edmonton Oilers, the NHL trade deadline, Robert Kraft & senior hockey.

everybody to the Sean Newman podcast today in studios. I am very excited to have my three brothers along with me. This is something we've probably talked about since my college days for sure about getting together and doing something like this and recording it. If you've ever sat in a bar beside us, you probably have left because it usually ends in a heated discussion about Taylor Hall being the best player ever. You're an asshole. Right. And so, and so, So, just so I thought I'd go around the room. I got, like I say, the three brothers. I thought I'd start with Jason.

He's 10 years older than me. And the way we're going to do it is he's going to introduce himself. And just say one of the first questions I wanted to do was their favorite movie from back on the days on the bus with the boys. And just a quick... Well, I'm really excited to be here. I put on my best hat, my best shirt. Wanted to look good, eh? I see you decided to leave the sunglasses off.

Well, I was going to look like the guy from Toronto. I can remember his name, but a shout out to him. And I realized it was radio and there was no TV, which is even better. So, no, my, so I'm Jason Newman, the oldest brother. I got two movies of mine. One, and to be honest, I don't remember them from when we're real young, because when we're real young, we were busy playing guts and poker. And your favorite part about that was you always had the three or four guys that never seemed to win.

And so they'd lose their 10 bucks, which back in the day was a decent amount of money, and then they'd roll back to the front, get another 10 bucks for their parents, and it was awesome, right? So I don't remember a lot of movies when I was in my teenage years or in my junior years with hockey. What I do remember is coaching

because when you're coaching, you're at the front of the bus and you're watching movies past the time. So my favorite one is the movie 300. When I come off the bus after 300, and I'm ready to play. None of his players are jacked, but he's jacked. No, I am ready to go, right?

So I'm walking the room jacked up trying to get my guys going, The worst movie though, and this is just for anybody out there that thinks they're going to coach, especially if you ever coach a girls team. Me and Troy Ferguson one time decided that the 40-year-old virgin would be a good movie to watch on the bus. I'm telling you right now. With a group, you thought with a group of young girls of a four-year-old virgin. Well, the girls were midget age. So we just didn't realize how vulgar that movie is.

And then once we got playing it, it's a boat of 40-year-old who hasn't lost his virginity. Yeah. How isn't that going to be bald? Well, I'll tell you right now that's a very bold movie, and I'm saying, do not bring that. I don't know if I'd watch that movie with a bunch of junior B guys, but so anyways, that's, yeah, that's my two movies. All right, we'll move to the next oldest, Dustin.

I'm three years younger than Jay. He used to beat me up when I was little, and probably still would to this day. Although you're now in Taekwondo. No, it's jujitsu. Right. And I'll kick your ass. Anyhow, I don't have a movie in particular I want to mention,

but any time my mom was on the bus and there was any kind of nudity, it was the greatest thing ever because my mom would just squirm. And it was fantastic. So Dustin likes movies with nudity. That's what I did. You're going to get a phone call after I'm here's this. Perfect. And then finally we'll go to Harley.

He's the closest to me. He's three years older than me. Yeah. So the few movies I thought of, honestly, it was anything to do with Van Dam. Bloodsports were always popular. And as Kobe, man would say, Stephen Skull, Break Your Arm. So Under Siege, Executive Decision, Anything Like that, pretty much any kind of martial arts. Oh, just the worst kind of martial arts.

But those were the type of movies that usually we ended up. I've spent a lot of time watching not the young bloods and the slap shots that a person would think that you would watch because for the exact same reason, probably mum learned her lesson along the way and a little bit too much nudity in those ones. So they never made it on our bus trips. I see nudity is going to be a hot topic today. But in saying that, actually, it's interesting, right? Because when we were playing, Kaiser was a big thing. and having Kings Court in the back of the bus,

there was one table, and so you won, you stayed. And everybody partnered up before the bus trip started, and you wanted to make sure you had a good partner because otherwise you might go a whole bus trip without ever getting back to the table if you lost that first time. But Kaiser was the big game that we always played in the back of the bus. Cool. Well, I'll tell you my favorite movie.

In college, I got to play some college baseball. and that I was not very good. I rode the bench quite a bit, so don't get any preconceived ideas that I was an excellent baseball player. My wife will tell you different, she'll have a smile as she says it. But my favorite movie got introduced to me

along those baseball road trips, Bull Durham, it was an old film with Kevin Costner, he was Crash Davis, he was the old vet who'd come from the MLB down to the minors, and he was there brought in the catch for Nick La Lush, the nuke, and that was a very young Tim Robbins

but one of my favorite scenes from the entire movie is the coach is going to Kevin Koster and like, how do I get these guys? You know, like they're not listening. He goes, they're kids, scare them. So he walks there and puts them all in the shower. And he goes, you lollygagging the infield. You know what that makes you?

Lolligaggers. Lolligakers. And then they go on a big winning streak and That's fond memories The bus, you talk about all the card games Like we were on the bus They were going to Meta Lake the other day I don't think anybody plays cards anymore

They played cards on their phone Heck I was doing it But back when we were really young Cards was the thing You have one table in the back And 12 guys huddled around it And played Well, I remember Kaiser

You were talking about guts Those games are fond memories As much as the movies are Yeah, I agree 100%. So before we get into our topics. I thought I might just shed some light on what we're doing here. What we're going to try and do is have a little roundtable about some different hot topics going on. Obviously, the NHL trade deadline was yesterday, and we're all diehard oilers fans.

So we're going to talk a little bit about that. We're going to talk a little bit about the owner of the Patriots being a little bit, I don't even know the words, but let's just be a good for him. Yeah, good for him, a billionaire getting caught doing that. And that's lovely. I'm sure he'll get away with it. And then a little bit of basketball, a little bit of senior hockey, and we'll see if we can keep you all entertained. Before I get into the first question, I thought I'd better give a shout out to Frank in Wisconsin.

His wife used to teach with my wife, and I got a text yesterday saying that he's listening to it to him from work, and he was excited about us coming on today, the brothers. I thought it's interesting, Brian Nichols. So you have one person listening to him. That's right. I got Brian Nichols and his family listened to it out in Ontario. He's a he's an RCMP officer out there. We used to play junior together, so a shout out to them.

Speaking of RCMP, I better give a quick shout out to Officer Brennan because he was the one that thankfully did not give me a ticket. But in turn... Have you bought those flowers? Because I sir as hell haven't received my state supper. I've fulfilled my due diligence here and I have... bought the brother's lunch so that was part of the deal i'm still waiting to get the i'm not sure why i got the rap everybody else got a full foot long but he's trying to tell you something and then finally i'll

give a shout out to alex bruns i graduated with him in college and he tracked me down via my work email he's working for the same he's working for baker with me and uh he started a list of the down in texas so uh we got people all over the place i got three people at least right listening but they're all over the world. So I thought that was cool to mention. All right, well, first question is the trade deadline was yesterday and the oilers didn't do anything. Now, you could argue they traded Camelette the week before and yada, yada, yada, but the two comments from Keith Geracke's is the interim GM was we're not willing to mortgage the future for today. And the second thing he said is I set a price and I wasn't willing to bunch. So I thought we'd open it up there on what

your thoughts on what the Oilers didn't do, or maybe just on the comments he had. I will say this. I thought it was a disaster of a trade deadline for the Oilers. You cannot be out of the playoffs, have a bunch of mediocre players on your team, and not sell them off for whatever you can get. You can't set a price on the guys on your team. I got a list here of like 12 guys the Oilers could have and should have moved if there was a buyer. Read through. Brodsiac, Cave, Chaseon, Cassian, Luchich, Raddy, Reeder, Benning, Gravel, Petrovich, Russell and Manning, all should have went if there was a buyer.

Now, how many of them that you just read would actually have a buyer for them? Maybe they didn't, but you could have got rid of some of these. Someone would have taken a flyer on Chase-on? You're getting something out of that. So you would trade Chase-on for a fourth, a fifth, a seven? I tell you what, you trade them for whatever you can get. He's a UFA at the end of this year. You move the guy.

He was a one-year rental. Move them. You're not making the playoffs. You might as well get something out of the deal. We're only seven points out right now, boys. You're not making the playoffs. We got a chance. Playoffs?

Playoffs? You want to talk about playoffs? We did say Dustin would be the first to lose his mind. That's what the Twitter poll showed. There you go. That's kind of the opposite of dust. I'm just, I'm happy after the three years of Shirelli, three or four years of Sherelli, that they didn't do anything stupid.

And because what's going to happen at the end of the year, they're going to go out, they're going to hire a new GM, they're going to go out and hire a new head coach. And can you imagine if this guy decided, hey, he was going to jump in the Duchyne sweepstakes because then they'll give him a chance to maybe re-sign him. and next thing you lose your first round pick or he trades away Polly Arby for somebody

that might be good down the road. Pooley Arby wasn't on my list. Yeah, but all of a sudden you're walking in as a new GM and he's already done a whole lot of stuff. All these guys are expendable. Every single one of them mean nothing to you at this point. But I think half them guys in your list, nobody would take it.

You might be right, but there's got to be some like gravel, Benning. No. Someone would take him for a pick. From what I was reading on Twitter, there was a few, people that were interested in a few of the guys, but none of the trades winded out coming about because people found other people in other places.

Well, and he said it in his second thing that I took around, I said a price, and I wasn't willing to the budget. I don't know if we've heard an oiler GM say that in how many years? No, but I mean they got really good value for Hall. Same when they trade away, I really. So maybe they should have just blown Cassie and chasing everybody else. No, no, no, but you're talking about high-end players. These guys are third line, fourth line players. You move those guys. You can find the replacements for this in the off season. You don't need those players. What are you going to do with the last like how many games we've got left boys now? 20, 20, 25, somewhere there. What do you trade off?

I tell you what? I tell you what? Have you seen the Oilers lineup right now? What are they going to do if they trade off all that players? These players are not the reason you're making or missing the playoffs. The reason you're missing it, they're not good enough. You've got some high-end players at the top and the rest of their lineups crowd. Just took Nashville to a shootout. They're one of the best in the West. Yeah, one game, whoopty-do. Without McDavid. One game, whoopty-do.

And you know what's funny about the Oilers? They're actually starting to winning after they got their defensemen who can move the puck back. They got cleftball and Scareback. And for the first time, in like, a year they got players that can get the puck's. So let's leave the group together so if they can make a playoffs. I should have had a bet on who would be the first to swear on the podcast. That's what I should have done. I just didn't think does.

Yeah, he said ass. I don't know if that qualifies. That doesn't really qualify because Jason isn't it. Well, we're in a modern age. I was hoping to find one of the guys on Twitter there had a tweet out talking about the NHL, the lineup for the Oilers a couple of games ago and their current NHL experience. And I think minus five forwards, everybody else has either played ECHL, AHA, or had less than 10 games in the NHL combined pretty much through your bottom eight players as forwards.

Well, you don't need a rocket scientist. You look at their lineup and after their top four forwards, man, they are just thin. I mean, they made a beauty trading getting rid of that Kajula kid. He was, he needed to go. I mean, they picked up Manning who's really just slaughtered right in your lineup. I guess I here's. Sean, if you're trying to bait, you can at least say something. intelligent that to make me think that you actually say it's okay I think I thought I

think you're finally starting to catch it we're gonna bait you they don't I think the other thing for me was I don't you know what I understand us okay so you get a fourth round pick for chase on or something like that that's fine and I get the argument either way I think for me it was either they found a way to land a guy like Dougie Hamilton you know where they they threw it you know I'm not saying carlo I want to do it but they threw on Polly Arvi and Benning and they found a way to make it work and then you go yeah that's a great trade for them to do nothing and not pick up an extra fourth round pick or something i'm not that worried about it i'm just glad that they didn't do

another dumb trade here's where they trade away here's here's the so our bars set at not making a dumb deal is is a success for the others at this point until the new gm gets there keith grexky might be he might be but he might not be while they're talking the last time i saw low tide he said that they might actually keep keith gresky if they go on a winning streak at the end of the season which is funny because the gm has nothing to do with that it probably If they want a winning streak, and I'll have it. Because KLEF Bomb and Secura come back.

I just like that they come back. Okay, take a breath. Everybody take a breath, right? Let's come back. We get rid of the 20 games. I agree with Dost. They probably won't make the playoffs. If you happen to go and run great,

but if they don't make the playoffs, then he sit there and go, okay, we still got the draft day. We've got our first round pick. We've got all over our assets. They got one of the top teams down in the minors. Let's not go, oh, we traded away Caleb Jones because we picked up Dougie Hamilton.

No, no. Jones wasn't on my list, Jay. You're a GM of a team. I understand, but I'm just saying I'm not that upset that they didn't pick up a fourth round pick for Chason. At the end of it all, too, I'm not all that disappointed because what are you realistically going to get for a guy like Chason, a fourth round pick? You guys keep throwing a fourth round pick? He's got quite a few goals this season. Could he have gone second or third?

So if you've been on the top line with one of the best player in the league. St. Louis. What are you given for Chason? I don't know. What would you give? I tell you what that. What would you give? Well, I know.

I would give and it wouldn't do a second, but I don't know what the deal is. Columbus might have given a third for. Damn straight. Did you see that all they have left is a third and a seventh? That's it for next draft. Like they are all in. Well, let's go there. So that leads me to my second question.

Who is the biggest winner of the deadline? And so just to give you some ideas here, what went on. It was actually a pretty busy deadline. So Vegas got stoned. I'm not sure I love an eight-year deal, but hey, that's neither here nor there. Nashville gets Simmons and Granlin. Columbus got Dushain Zingle McQuaid

Winnipeg gets Hayes San Jose gets Nyquist now we're starting to go down the list Dallas got Zuccarello, Colorado, Brousard and Buffalo you know you talk they got Monteur. And for all the Toronto fans

they got the town. That's right. They didn't give up much to them. Can't forget about them Toronto fans? And I put a side note in here that I always like a team that doesn't do too too much and Tampa Bay

they're right at the top. They didn't go out and blow or anything, right? They stayed pretty quiet. They're in front of like 20 points. I know. Same with Calgary didn't do a thing. To me, the deadline winner was San Jose.

They got Nyquist for nothing. Like, you look at what was given up to get Hayes compared to what San Jose gave up? San Jose gave up a second and a third for a guy who's going to have 60 plus points this year. You've got to be kidding me. Personally, I like, Vegas picking up stone. I didn't know it's an eight-year deal, but he's 26. That takes him to 34. I mean,

even he should still be able to produce even by the time he's hitting his 33, 34th year. So I like it. All of a sudden, now Vegas is, you know, they did well when they first came into the league and they're stockpiled on drop picks and whatnot. But I mean, to me, it's, they're taking another serious run here again. And I'm not opposed to Winnipeg and Nashville. What they did, like, man, that's going to be one hell of a series if they meet again. Because both teams again at the trade deadline, right? Adding pieces, knowing that they need to prepare for that series, right?

I just thought it was a trade deadline where it was just so obvious. I mean, it was just the teams that want to pick up pieces did. There was, you know, they acted like the Ottawa guys were blockbusters, but everybody knew they had to be moved. I actually thought that Ottawa did really well in the Douching trade to get what they got. They actually did not bad in the stone trade. That young defenseman, he's a 19-year-old playing in the H.L.,

and he's got like 20 points and 30-some games as a rookie in the H.L. That's pretty darn good. Yeah. Like, I mean, Ottawa, on the flip side, if you're a fan, you're sitting there going, well, you're kind of... blew everybody out the door. But I thought he got more... Because I thought he did terrible in the Eric Carlson trade before.

Yeah. Well, and that goes back to who made that trade again. How do they keep making these deals? I don't know. Who's that? Did Doug Wilson? How did Detroit not get more than a second and a third? I don't know.

That mystifies me. San Jose or Dougie must be just a whisper because he's made a lot of beautiful trades like that where he hasn't, you know, sold the farm to get whoever he needs. And that's what you want to see starting in Emmeton. Why? You're not making four trades just to make four trades so dust is happy at the table. What you're wanting to do is make quality trades and sometimes quality trades is lack. Okay. He keeps ragging on me.

Honestly, I didn't mind getting rid of who did they trade for Gagne. Spooner. Spooner, right. So immediately. Everlating Gagne. Yeah. We're looking for Gagne. We're talking to both guys.

That worked down. It's all one big fucking circle. I heard that. At the same, at the same token, at least Gagne is a proven NHL player who can play. Spooner. Can you imagine though? You're sitting there. We're running an NHL organization. And in the end, we drafted two guys and down the road we traded one for the other. Right? Like that, we're moving forward. Yeah. Well, and I wouldn't mind expanding the trade deadline to what happened before

the trade deadline. There was some big deals. And you talked about Toronto getting Patan and, you know, that wasn't a big deal. But then picking up muzzan, I thought that was a great deal for Toronto in a need that they had and they didn't give up that much to get them. So, yeah, I agree. I thought LA did good on that one, though, too. And I guess there's some deals where you think both teams did well. Yeah. Right? L.A. needed to start to shed some age.

And, you know, and anytime you can get a first round pick, I think, is A key. And that's why you're going back to the Nyquist with Salé, because San Jose gets him in Detroit doesn't get that first round pick. Yeah. You give up a second or third. To build on that point, I mean, I think Ottawa did great to picking up Granderson or whatever his name is there. Brass from you talk? Or Brants from a defense one?

Yeah. A 19-year-old, he's going to be, they're saying top one, top two D-Men for Ottawa in the future. Yeah. It's got good potential. He's got a very good potential. But, man, what is... I remember it could be Jack Hughes for Brastrum. But I mean, still.

Or it could be Reinhardt. We could get a Rinehart in there. The thing that bothers me about all of this, though, is what does Ottawa tell their fan base right now? Like, man. I don't know. I don't think it's that hard to tell. Listen, guys, we're rebuilding. At least they're, and now they're bringing in a bunch of pieces.

That wasn't the supposed to be the story. Hey, Melmich told them today, they're bringing the Cup to Ottawa. I don't think the Ottawa fans have a big, high bar for the senators at this point, because the owner's full on crazy. Right? They got about a similar part of the oil group plans, right? It's kind of, hey, we didn't screw up royally. That's a win.

How about this, guys, for a question. How many more seasons, this was brought in by Colby and, uh, They asked this one. They want to know how many more seasons can the owners be this bad before McDavid asked for a trade? Two to three. Now, let me just before. Shut it. All right.

Here we go. 2005-06, they lose in the cup finals. This is Hamilton-on as they were talking about. Since then, 12-13, and I am including this season because I do agree, even though there's seven points out, I don't think they're making it. So the last 12-13 seasons without the playoffs. And for 11 to 12 of those that they didn't make, they had losing records. So they've been a bad team for a long time. I always joke that they're the Cleveland Browns of the NHL.

I looked up to Cleveland Browns. They made the playoffs twice since 1990. They've been in the league since 90? Because remember they got booted out? They moved to Baltimore, right? It showed they actually had a decent stretch in the 80s. And then they moved to Baltimore. Sure.

And then they move back. And then they move back. And then they move back. Then they move back. Then they've been terrible. Yeah. So, yeah, this is tough to talk about because I'm a diehard oil fan and we suck. But we do have the best player.

So the one thing I'll bring us back to, because I had heard it probably two months ago, is they talked about Mario and Lemieux, who arguably top five guy ever to play in the NHL. Top three? Top three? Sure. Top four. Mario missed in his first six years with the penguins. He missed five to six years.

The one year they made it, they didn't get past the first round. In that time, he won two Art Rosses, a heart, a calder, and a Lester B. Pearson. McDavid's only in his fourth season, and he's won two arts, a heart and two Ted Lindsay's, which used to be the Lester B. Pearson, right? So they got similar track record, but their teams can't make the playoffs. So what I'm getting at here is Mario, after his... six year I believe is seventh and eighth year he won cups right yep so his first year was 84 they won the cups in 91 and 92 that's right so are we sounding alarm bells that

McDavid's gonna ask to get out of this place here in a year or two Dustin says two or three or is there still time to write the ship and away we go there's there's time to write the ship they just need a GM who's doesn't do dumb things your next tire is gonna be huge so who's your next tire I wouldn't see Mark Hunter. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. The interesting thing for me is Stevie Y is done with Tampa Bay. I've heard rumors that Stevie Y is going back to Detroit,

which then pulls out Ken Holland. Is Ken Holland the right fit? I don't know. But there's a big name player that's sitting out there. But if Ken Holland's still the GM and the Detroit Red Wings at the end of the season, because there's been no reports that he's not going to be, right? Like there's a rumor mill, but there's been nothing really serious happen just yet. So if Ken Holland's still sitting there, can you get Stevie Y to come?

Can Stevie Y, I'd... Sure, I'd take him if he'd come. The only problem is, is I just don't know if he'll come. You pay a man enough money, he'll come. How about Doug Wilson? I don't know if he'd come. I think that'd be tampering. San Jose's got a really good team because he built it.

It's funny, though, because he's going to be there. You look at teams that have really good managers, and you think of David Poyle in Nashville, right? And so he's never one to cut. Right? But they're always in the mix. But they're always in the mix. And that's all you want.

You just want a guy to get you always in the mix, because he's not on the ice. And there's got to be guys out, I mean, we're not just, we're not in the inside of that, right? So there's got to be guys out there that are well respected that they can bring out. Look at what Lamarillo and Trots have done. In New York, there's ridiculous.

I would say this is that if they promote, Moke Keith Grexky to their GM after this season, I'll be very upset because they should be going around and checking for who's available and interviewing all these guys before they make their decision. Yeah, fair enough, and they probably will. The interesting thing about Keith Grexky is he does actually have a very good reputation. He's a very good reputation for scouting and for understanding players. Who do you learn from? Well, no, he didn't learn from Shirelli. He ran under Shirelli for the last few years, Jay. Yeah, he has. Shirley brought him in. But he was in a different organization before that. And the one thing,

if you listen what everybody talks about, and if you look at their record, is their minor league team has been really good. And so sometimes there's stuff that could be, the problem we have with Sorrelli isn't their minor league team. I don't even think it's their drafting. Anybody who wants to say that they wouldn't have taken Poli Arvi, probably is lying right now.

I think the guy who took Duwah from Columbus, somebody there, A, has a really good eye, and B, someone has some balls to make that call. So I don't think the minor league team, the youth, the drafting, any of that is a problem. So then the problem we have of the Shirelli was just his trades. Yep. So already Gretzky's showing that, hey, I'm not going to be a guy that just does dumb trades

because he does come with a good reputation for young guys, and he didn't get trained under Shirelli. He was with teams before that. So I don't know. I'm not saying, still do your interviews. And if Iserman says, yeah, I'll come to Emmington. I'm taking Eisenman or Ken Holland or David Poyle or you can name the guys. But what happened if them guys aren't out there?

Yep. right i don't know if i just want a brand new guy all i'm saying is the oilers need to go around and talk to a lot of the guys that are close and decide not just pick i'm hoping they just don't go oh keith grtsky had a good run at the end of the season let's just leave him there that shouldn't happen no i know i know but it seems like all we've done is blowing everything i mean right now the lines get changed every period that'd be awesome to play in hey yeah well when you've got crap on three lines. You can't keep switching it around because you got

no choice. It doesn't win your hockey games. Okay, carry on Sean. My final one on the NHI, well, we'll do two more in the NHL. I thought, right now I'm looking at the standings and I go, the other's a seven points out, which in theory, they're still there and putting it in

quotations, but I mean, unless they go on a mad run here, they ain't getting in. But who on the outside right now? and right now in the east the wild card is Montreal and Carolina and Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh Pittsburgh and Carolina are tied for the last point

Wow yeah okay fair enough Fair enough and then on the other side you got Dallas Minnesota and obviously Colorado is tied with Minnesota but who do you think is going to be the team that isn't in right now and gets in or do you think anyone's going to jump over that

I think right now I think Florida gets in and Montreal's out. Or Montreal's out, Carolina, Pittsburgh are in. But it's going to be Montreal's out for me. And I think the only one that's got a shot in the east that's not in Carolina, Pittsburgh territory is Florida. I don't think Florida's getting in. They have the depth of the defense and everything.

They just haven't played well enough. I think Carolina's getting in. I think Pittsburgh's getting in. I think either Columbus or Montreal is out. And on the other side, I don't know. It's probably Minnesota and Colorado to battle. out to see who actually makes it. I don't think anybody below them is going to even challenge.

Who I think gets in between those two? Well, we'll say Minnesota. How about that? Yeah, I'm going to say Colorado gets them. All right. I'm same boat as these two. You think it's that locked in now. 20-some games to go.

Well, you've got six points on one side. You got no Ottawa senators coming to make a run like they did a couple years ago. I'm saying I think Florida does. Florida would have to. Florida made run last year and they're only eight points out and if you look at that lineup on paper, they should. If they don't, then they're looking for a new coach. And if they want to get rid of the GM Oilers to take it

because you look at that team on paper, it is pretty solid. I don't see anyone from Arizona, Vancouver, Chicago, Edmonton, Anaheim or L.A. They can make a run to catch those teams, even though those teams aren't that good. Do you think the Chicago get Crawford back? Do you think there's any shot that they can do with? Man, they're just, they're so one-line heavy right now.

besides cane and taves they got the brinkat they got brand and saw it they're five points back and now that they traded for strome he's been better five points back in 20 games and then they just got crawford back in that uh i just

to me it's not enough okay you know what i'm gonna say chicago there you go you're heard of here you know the lovely thing about this is is in a couple weeks well i guess a month we'll know we'll get to look back on this when the playoffs are over when we do this this again and go, yeah, Jay, you're head in the clouds, or you'll get to rub it in everyone's face. By the way, Ottawa's going to get last, so that's my big call.

Speaking of Florida Panthers, so last night, Roberto Lwango gets his 485th win, third all-time, now in career wins in goal-tending, behind Broderer, 691, and Patrick Waugh, he's only 66 behind. So that means he's third all-time and wins in the NHL. Does that put them in your top three goalies of all time? No. So if not, who's your guy that's in there? Dominic Asick. Which is interesting because Hasick does have, was in the top 10 for shutouts.

He's not in the top for wins, but I don't think he played enough seasons. Dominic Hasick started in the HL at 29 years old is when he played his first season as a starter. He has the highest saved percentage of any goalie on. that he has six Vesna trophies that he won from 29 into his 30s he has one heart trophy which none of these goleys have 20% of his wins came from shutouts and he played for a Buffalo Sabres team that was awful that he drugged to the Stanley Cup final one year that Buffalo Sabres team was awful no but they had Michael Pecker yeah exactly Michael Peck is like the only guy on that bloody team and not

like that they won a Stanley they won an Olympic gold if they stole that from Canors won Olympic gold Dominic Casas won it with the Czech Republic idiot and it was all because of Hasick because that Czech Republic team was not good and he had to be all-world to win the you know what I remember both that one too and wasn't that where the shootout was and they didn't let Grexie shoot yes yeah right I believe it was Ray Borek wasn't it yeah Dominic Hasick tied for six all-time for shutouts and he started at 29 that's past his peak I'm not gonna argue with Dost because I kind of have the same opinionism so the

only thing I'm gonna say is what I find interesting is out of the top six goalies on the list, three of them haven't won a cup. The problem with all-time wins and cups is it really depends on what team is in front of you. So you look at Roberto Luongo, he played for a Florida Panthers team that was not good for a lot of years. He was a really good goal tenor. He played for Vancouver for a couple years. They were a little bit better, but not, you know.

Okay, and I'll agree with you, but I will say with apologies to the guys that are a little bit older than me who remember the Terry Sawchucks and the jock plan because I never got to see them guys play. I will tell you right now that Patrick Waugh did carry teams to the cup and yes. Yes he did. Montreal especially the first time and so you look at that list and you go Marty Bordur has a longevity list right that's why he's there with the shutouts and the wins and he played on some very very defensive teams. Yes. But when I look at that list I don't remember Ed Bell for a character I mean he was probably played very very well in 99 to win the cup right he was around for a lot of years you know what I mean but but when I see Patrick Waugh there was a

cup, especially with the Montreal teams, they were not favorite to win the cup. Yes. And that year he won the cup in 93 over the L.A. Kings, that year all four teams in the semifinals were third place teams in their divisions. Right? And then Gretzky dragged

to the finals and Paddy Wah dragged Montreal to the finals. Yes. And just like Mark Andre Fleury dragged Vegas to the finals, but Patty Waugh won. Mark Andre Fleury, the Vegas goal nights were a good team last year. They were good. Mark André Fleury, in my mind, if he wasn't there, though, like, I'm not saying Montreal

was terrible, right? They had some good players, too. They had the Kirk Mullers and the Dampoos and different guys like that, right? But, I mean, Patty, if you think of them two teams in 86 and 93, Paddy Wah is a big part. Okay. What's interesting to me is, you know, you're looking at the top ten goalies here, Broder, Wa, Luang, Lago, Belfore, Joseph, Longquist, Saw, Chock, Plant, Mark Andre Fleury and Tony Esposito.

And then you look at all of their different trophies that they've won. And Mark Andre Fleury is the only one that hasn't won Jack Squat. And you know what? And the long goes only one won Jennings. To be honest, I have not been a Flurry fan up until he got traded to Vegas. And up until this point, like you're looking at goals against average, too, like 257, man, you look at the rest of them, there's some that are a lot lower than that.

Same percentage is a better measure for a goal than goals against average. Fair enough. Mark Andre Fleury played with a lot better teams, I think, than the party boarder, a head, paddy, law. Juggernaut. And you remember those series. Yeah, they trade chances like nobody's business.

Just for the 20 listeners that are going to listen to this thing, when I look at the top six, if I go back there, the interesting thing, because you guys can't see it, So the three guys that did not win a cup, Luongo, Kirst, Joseph, and Lungwist, each had one trophy, period. They didn't win a Stanley Cup, they each won one trophy. And we're talking to Vezna, Jennings, Calder, Smyth Clancy, okay? Hart's not on there, but Haskell on that. Fair enough.

So out of the three guys in the top six, Bordur, one, three cups. Three cups. Five Jennings, four Vezna and a Calder. So that's 13 trophies. Paddy Wah, four cups. Four cups. Two Smyth, two five Jennings, three Vezna, so that's 14. And even had Balfour, right, where he only won the one cup, but still had a Calder, four Jennings and two Vesna, so he still had eight. And the other three, Luongo, Joseph, and Lungwist, one each. So everybody says, you know what,

winning is just the team. And okay, fair enough. But it's kind of interesting. Well, that's why I brought up Passick. He had six Vesna trophies. Right. That's insane. Oh, and I brought up the Buffalo Sabers team that went to the final that year. Like, you need read this list because it's ridiculous. Was Meryl Chatan on there? Mero Chetan. See, Mom didn't like that too. No, no.

It was the devil. Meryrishatan, Mike Pecka, Michael Grosick, Curtis Brown, Dixon Ward, Brian Holzinger, Vaklev Vrata, Jeff Sanderson, Wayne Primo,

Eric Rasmussen, Roday, Randy Cunningworth, Paul Cruz, Dean Sylvester, and Dominic Pittis. That was the team that he drug to the Stanley Cup finals. Curtis Brown's from Unity.

Played against that guy. What I... If you look at all those players, though, like, you want to talk about a guy, you know, how did they even get there? Would the Anaheim Ducks win J.S. Jagger would be similar to that team? No, they had Salani. Solani and Greer and Perry. No. When they lost, not when they won.

Didn't they have Scott Niedemeyer and Pronger when they lost them with that team? I don't think they had both those guys. I think the first year that Anaheim picked up Pronger, they won the cup. That year that J.S. Jager went to the finals, lost in the first. finals to New Jersey he won the cons fight that year and that team had no business being there right you're right guess left and pre were on the coupling team but I don't know if they were on the team I don't think they were on that team I would trade all these guys from that Buffalo team for one of the players

you know what surprising is you know what surprising that year when they had hashick that they didn't start trading away some of them guys for fourth and fifth round pick Jay they were in the playoffs at that point Jay they were in the playoffs all right let's let's switch topics here let's get off the NHL we're probably forward a few people out there. Maybe they're having a good chuckle out at all. I was talking to Marty yesterday, and he mentioned Kauai Leonard. He's played 44 out of 61 games for the Raptors this year.

This is the theory that, and you start to see a little bit more happening in the NBA specifically, where the superstar doesn't play every single game. He plays majority of the games, but sparingly. Two-thirds. You're right. LeBron James is pretty much a beast, and he's probably one of the exceptions, right? That guy just plays in time. I mean, he did get hurt this year.

But I was curious, like, as a fan, you pay the money to go watch and then Kauai's not playing, or whoever it is. As a fan, are you pissed? Or are you happy that, if you're a fan of that team, that your coach and organization is doing whatever, in my opinion, it takes to win, right? Because if Kauai's healthy in the playoffs, the whole point of him being there isn't to see him play 60 games. it's to get to the end title at the end of it. And in order to do that, you need a healthy. I got two questions. How old is Leonard right now?

Because to me, he's not that old. It's been in the league seven years, I think. So what does that put him, mid-20s? Mid-20s? No. To me, to me, what that's telling me then is a mid-20s guy, you're not resting because he needs the rest. You're talking about the spurs who use that tactic

with an aging team. This guy should not need the rest. What that's telling me is something else is going on there. Yeah, it's a mid-20s. Right. So what that's telling me, is there something that's going on there that they're not letting on about it? He's got a nagging injury?

He had the injury last season with the Spurs where he missed three quarters of the season, right? That, I don't know what even to call it. Something to do with his leg where he just came back for a few games and then miss a bunch of games right now. I think he only played 27 games last. year, right? So there's definitely injury concerns there, right? The thing about the NBA, it's different than any other sport and the superstars dominate and win you series, essentially. You can have one player that wins you the whole series.

So do I have a problem with him sitting? Exactly. Do I got a problem with him sitting? No. Even if I was paying a good watch, no, because you've got a much better chance and winning the whole thing as if he's healthy in the playoffs. Yeah, I guess I come from the hockey side of things. You see it in football in different places. You just, I wonder about the teammates and everybody else. Now you're just, so one guy's more important. To me, you're trying to build a team over the season

where everybody slowly comes together and you're a band of brothers and you get to where you will take a bullet for the guy or block a shot or take a hit to make the play. And that comes from caring and coming together as a team and then team's pinnacle and you get a little bit lucky. injuries and you get a little bit lucky where that one went off to post it in rather than out and you win a championship and there's not a better feeling and how are you building a team where this guy doesn't have to play every game because his foot sore he's been a band-aid

in the past or you know his attitude is is that he's how can he have the attitude where I'm a leader of this team this is my team we're going to go out and battle every night but I'm going to sit on the bench boys because I'm really more important than everybody else here and and we want to win a championship here because trauma is really important to me especially when probably I'm not going to be there next year I just you know I don't know it's just not my stuff so so maybe this is gonna be awesome Toronto's gonna win you know team in the north they're gonna do it I just that's where I'm out with that we're gonna go on to football because I I've never been a huge NBA fan so let's

go into football and what obviously Patriots win again Brady's the best I don't think there's any argument there but I got a text from from the boys last night. Why the Patriots always cheating? Deflategate, taping other team's practices, and now on their wives with hookers. You would think if you're one of them who sides stomped Brady's checks

you could do afford to not get caught. I don't know what my question is. I just find it humorous that a 77-year-old billionaire got sting operation caught by the cops with a rub and tuck. essentially and I'm going if you're Tom Brady does that sour you where you're like yeah I don't know doesn't move the needle for Tom Brady doesn't move the

deal with Tom Brady but got kissed him on the lips after he won the Super Bowl I don't think he cares well that moved in what I didn't know that I don't know they keep winning does Tom Brady care that does that affect his day-to-day life I don't think he cares how much of the general population cares about that story do you care I really don't I don't I don't I tell you what, if you're living in Boston, New England, and they win the Super Bowl, could you give a flying F about whether or not the owner of the team is out getting a rub and tug?

A rub and tug? Not a chance. They say that they won. At the end of the time, they're going to look back and go, the Patriots won that year, oh, but, hey, he got a rubbing tug? Do you think they're in the dressing room laughing about it?

Oh, for sure. For sure. I mean, I get the question, how did he get caught? Who does it? I don't know. I have no idea. Next one. I bet you they knew about it, right?

Probably, like, oh, yeah, Rob's going back into that. It's a special place. Probably the first time he walks down and walks into the dressing room. I'm sure that all the boys would be giving him a hard time about it. Let's switch to some local. I'm a big senior hockey. I've been playing now back here for Helmwan now. for this will be my eighth season.

We're eight in the middle playoffs. We're up three games to two on Metal Lake currently. It's been a very good series. And I got talking to actually Doug Politeski about it after we won there in double overtime just this past weekend about when he's going to retire. And he said, and I think I quote here, I will retire when they tell me to stop showing up to the rank. And Doug is 36, I believe.

And I love that ads from Doug, right? That's a guy you don't have to convince coming to the rank. He's there all in. and that's what he does for a high right he comes and plays hockey and battles with the boys likes to be in the dress room now you three have all played senior jay played in kid scottie dustin you played in kitts godd and harley you played in helmont and harley you played in helmand jay did play one game in helmont i'm i want to say that he got a laid out a beautiful giveaway in my i will say that right now i'm the only brother who at 40 played a senior

game. So we'll see if Sean hardly get there. Dustin chances are unless he joins on for a game. I just want to put a little story out there too. So I suit up. You got to understand. I'm wearing shoulder pads for the first time in 10 years and I'm scared of death, right? I'm going around just trying not to fall and warm up. And so I get on the bench, I don't care if I play two shifts period. This is a far cry from midget. I could care less. So get out there and I had a couple great instances, one where I was going to, I picked up, kind of got the pass. I'm in full speed in my mind, right? So probably going about a quarter of what senior speed

is. And I cross the blue line, I'm just going to shoot and Dustin yells at me. Hey! And so I look, and then I look, I should have just shot and then somebody ran me over that. I used to coach. Right? So that was great. Come back to the bench. Everybody's laughing. And I'm just trying to be a fourth line mucker. Like every time someone gets it, even dad gave me crap after the game and says, like if you're going to run at somebody,

you're going to be, you can't just run from the blue line because I see you come. I said, I'm just trying to be an energy guy, right? Never been an energy guy in my but I was trying so we hit the so we hit the second period so I get run over in the first second period comes along and and there was a guy coming back I got the puck in my own zone everybody's gone I don't know where I was doing that I don't know if I was just late joining the play what what's going on here I get the puck two guys are on me I see it one of my own teammates skating back so I flip him the puck towards the middle of the ice and he skates away now let me

give you the perspective from the bench on that one jays along the ball and does a no look behind the back pass out into the middle and gives a guy off the opposing team a breakaway. Nobody was pressuring him. He was by himself in our zone. To be fair, I felt pressured all game. So I do that. Makes a great coach. In the third period, you know, Kobe, and so Kenny Rutherford was missing.

I don't know where he was. And so first game of the season and Kobe McDonald's coaching. And for all you know, I coached Kobe for a couple years in junior B. And so he's behind the bench, right? So Kobe was gracious enough to his old coach to give him another shift in the third. I got a shift in the third. Went in there, causing a lot of havoc, drew a penalty. Three two game, I draw a penalty, right?

Feel pretty good. Come off the ice. McDonald sits me on the bench. I know he'd been waiting for that time for like three years. Newman, you're done. So because Kobe was by himself, I kind of stepped back and helped him coach for the last 12 minutes. That was my one senior game. And now I look at the board, and on the Hitman board,

got Jason Newman, one game, nothing. Like, I wish I would have tripped somebody. Like, if I get a chance to play one more game, I'm just going to literally go to a guy and know on a different team. You know, if it's Benz Miller or Getsinger or somebody, I'm just going to go, I'm going to trip you, right? If I don't get called, I'm going to do it again

until I get a penalty. Please don't hurt me. Yeah. I don't want anybody to, you know, think I'm trying to rough them up or nothing. I just need two minutes, right? For the record, that game, I think Harley and me had two-two-on-ones,

which I fumbled both times. So I'm thinking that Jay was holding us back. I was pretty sure. They wouldn't pass me the puck. I probably would have put it in. We couldn't find you to pass you. We had all five, no. We had us three, our us four, and Nate was my D-partner. So we actually had five Newman's dreads for that one game. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. The question I was going to get to was at what ages did you retire, if you can remember, and do you wish you played longer?

The reason I'm going there is, is right now I'm 32, and I keep getting, I said it on the last podcast, or two podcasts, that I go around the league, and the refs always call me old boy now. I know I look like a grandfather, but geez, I'm not that old. And I'm playing with a bunch of young 20-year-olds now, and I mean, there's a few that are close to my age and a couple that are past me. But as I start to have kids now, and I've talked to dad about it, and I asked him about it, it's like, when do you retire? And so my first question is, what age did you retire?

And then, do you regret retiring at that age and wish you would have played longer? I retired at 34. I had two kids at the time, and I'd actually hurt my knee. And that was between my body not being there, and I didn't feel like it, well, guys are starting to catch up to me. That was part of the problem. And then my knee was not 100 percent, and so I didn't feel like wrecking that. And having two kids at home, just a combination of all those things, I was like, eh, I'm going

to retire. Now, what's funny about that is the next year I actually coached. So the kids at home, I guess, didn't affect it that much. but it was a combination of those things. And now I don't regret it. Well, we won when I was 33. He doesn't remember. Don't remember.

For those of you who don't know, game seven, God absolutely, from what I've been told, ran from behind legs pulled out from under me as I'm going to the boards and made it to the bench. Dustin says, you all right? Yep, went back out for the next shift. Absolutely, K-O's a guy in the corner.

The same guy that actually... That's what he remembers, yeah. That actually took me. From what I found out that that was the guy, that guy never played another game after that, actually, either. But we ended up winning that game. Sad at home, counting stars, I think, for the next week on the coach. went back and played the next season

and just we had a boy on the way and I just went you know what if if something like that happens to me again there's other things that are more important more important so what age were you at Harley then

34 when I and so have you regretted since not planned no but at the same time too do I still want to win that championship absolutely yeah while you're back coaching so that's why I'm here coaching You want to remember this one? But the funny thing about that is, are you actually going to remember?

Because I'm pretty sure the last time that we won, there was a party that last in about about 6 o'clock. I remember nice chunks of that. I don't remember most of that night for the record after the party started. Went too many shots of moonshine. Well, the funny thing with Harley, too, is there's actually no picture of him winning the championship. Was he actually there? It's going to be the ongoing question for the next one. 40 years. I retired when I was 21 and I retired because I had a couple of kids. But personally,

I wasn't in a great mindset back then. I think partly playing minor hockey, I played a lot of top line minutes and I didn't learn to be as good of a team guy and I didn't have as much character back then and I struggled with it. Right. So I played a little bit of, actually a little bit of AAA senior in Innisfail and you know again I just couldn't I just couldn't handle I just I just didn't have the ability or the maturity back then to handle the fourth line minutes and you know let it go right and I regret it at the same time because I we talked tired so young and I started coaching and because of some of the people I've had in my life when I was younger you know I'd learned a lot without even realizing it right you know

getting coach, you know, between Dad and Gordreddon and Frank Mabletoff and, you know, and then Dave McLean and Ball and guys like that. I mean, you, I had so much knowledge inside of my head from them guys that I didn't even realize. And so you just started it. You don't realize you're just out there. And then, of course, you've got to learn a ton of things on the flip side about dealing with people and dealing with situations. And as coach went along, I just really got to enjoy it. So I don't know if I really regret retiring when I did. I know I'm really enjoyed playing with the noon hour guys now. I enjoy playing with the never sweats. I enjoy playing a ton.

But I don't look back and go if I would have pushed hard. I probably was of that age group maybe, you know, play for an Allen Cup or play with the Board of Kings. I don't really have that regret. I enjoyed coaching the kids. I enjoyed everything I've done so. Which brings me my next question

and we'll go around the same way. So now you both, all of you've played good hockey and you've all coached good hockey. What did you prefer was one you preferred over the other? And the reason I ask is Shay is my boy and then Mila, my girl, they're, you know, they're slowly getting closer to the minor hockey ages.

And it's kind of daunting to think about possibly coaching. I've never played all my life. I haven't coached a single team. Not saying I don't have obviously the knowledge there, it probably is, but it's intimidating to me. And you've all coached and played. So I was curious. is do you find do you like one or the other? Did you, like,

Jay, you coached an awful lot. Do you enjoy that more than going and playing or dust or Harley, right? Like, was there one you liked over the other? I mean, a guy loves playing, right? And that's why you enjoy the games because you loved playing. But I did enjoy coaching,

especially if you get with the right coaching group, I always said you'd go to the rink and for two or three hours. you know at game time the whole the rest of the world stands still right and so uh you know you can get a lot of adrenaline and we'd be in a big game and if you want a big game you could walk out and you were dead tired and you didn't even feel like talking anybody and so it's a different type of adrenaline rush i don't know if it ever takes the place of playing because that's what we all did that's what we all loved right but i i i enjoyed the years i coached for sure the uh i mean

Jay hit it on the head, right? I mean, you play because you love the game. You're playing to play, right? And you want to feel like you're making an impact in that game, right? I mean, I think of

when we beat Dubbery, there are the one game and there's like a second left on the clock and I pass out to Noble and Noble scores to win us the game, that game. Right? Like, that's memory I'm always going to have and that's such a cool thing, you know, those are the moments you live for, right? At the same time, too,

life happens. And do I enjoy coaching? Absolutely, right? I mean, you're right with the guys again, right? It's just just a different perception on things, right? And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, now coaching. sure that I'll coach the rest of my life, right? And I'm really excited because I got my boy coming up too and and he's already talking about, you know, I'm going out to coach you guys hockey and he goes, when are you coaching me, right? And you know, that's the stuff that you get excited for after the fact, right? Like it's a, it's just a different thing, right? It's a different beast rather than playing and will I play, I'll always play, right? But I do got a good story about my son. I've coached him two years in hockey and actually one in ball and one in ball and one in

in soccer so far. And there's like a couple practices in a row where he was just mad at me because I would tell him something or, you know, you have to keep the kids together, especially at initiation because they're kind of, they don't listen all that well. And so the one time I had to kind of bark at him and he got mad at me and didn't talk to me for a couple days. And I'm like, you know what? Maybe I just won't coach next year. He's like, well, don't do that. So it's kind of funny because you think you don't think he appreciates it but you're like well maybe i just won't coach he's like no no no i want you to coach just don't like it when you get mad at me kind of thing um which do i prefer playing or coaching uh i love playing i think probably i'm a better coach than i am a

player when it comes to competitive hockey something like senior or you know with body contact just because of my body size when it came to playing i i i always struggled with the physical aspect of it because i was so small um and i think a coaching comes fairly naturally to me. And I've had some, as Jay mentioned, I've had some fantastic coaches when I was coming up through the ranks. I think the other thing too is,

you know, for as much as dad, coach Jay and Dustin, not so much, Sean and I, dad was always grilling us, whether he was coaching us or not anyways. We'd be out on the ice and why are you doing that, right? You should come. Watch your shoulder. Watch the, you know, we're playing D in.

And I'm learning how to play D at first year Peewee. And dad is out on the ice when we're out playing Helmont, sneaking on to the rink. And dad's going, what are you doing? You're looking at the puck. You need to be watching his shoulders. And I can remember for like a half hour, Sean coming down on me. And dad just sitting there watching me and making sure I'm doing what I should be doing. Dad was telling me he used to yell at me as a hog when I was a kid.

I don't remember that at all. I remember sitting in the hockey night in the Newman household that we used to call it, where he'd take you play-by-play through little drills in the living room on the floor, on how you can escape big guys coming in on your, using the net and stuff like that, which, ironically, not for maybe not ironically, but he said he owes all the Gordreddon. He said without Gordredden, he wouldn't have known any of that stuff. So I'm supposed to tell Gord the next time I see him, which will be in a couple weeks here, that I owe my prowess behind the net and around the puck to Gorg because that all came from him.

So, yeah, I don't know. Actually, the funny thing I think about with Mom and Dad is if you had a game, as long as you got a point, Mom thought you had a great game. Didn't matter. You could have played the biggest dog crap game you've ever played. You got an assist because you bounced it off the wall on your own end, and somebody went down and scored and got an assist. you played a great game, right?

And Dad, he'd lose your mind. Then they'd start fighting in the front seat of the van because Dad thought you didn't play very good. Vice versa, you could have no points. Dad thinks you played great. Mum's mad all the way home because you didn't get a point, right? And you know what? Like even those trips home from the games, right?

Even, you know, dad not coaching, you get back into the van for the drive home or whatever because back then we, yes, we drove many vans everywhere, five of us. But, I mean, there is always, he would always say one or two things that you could work on and improve on, right? But he also did mention the one or two things that you did really good throughout the games that he saw improvement on as well, right? So, I mean, we were constantly coached, and maybe that's why all three of us so far anyways, not you, Yich Khan. But, I mean, that's probably part of the reason why we all enjoy coaching as well is because we were constantly coached throughout our last. lives, right? Well, here, I can see us all slowly starting to tell you. We got Bill in here

doing sound and he's been gracious enough to sit here and listen to us Yahoo's. So I got two fun ones left. Okay, so I sent on a picture of us Yahoo's for this one. And Broomen commented, he said, how won't you tell the story of where that picture come from and see what Dustin's thoughts and everyone else's going to tell that story? Well, I don't know. Would you like to tell that story? Well, I can tell the story. Sure. Sure. All right. I'll tell the story. I don't know. I'll preface it by this. We're in the middle of, right now, today, we're in the middle of playoff hockey. And during the playoffs, at the start, you always go, nobody book holidays in February and March.

Because you don't want to lose a hockey game due to holidays or a trip to the water game. I don't think anybody actually said that out loud until Harley decided to book his wedding then. Well, no, I remember Harley booking his wedding then. And I remember me and Brad Simon's talking about him. And Brad's like, like, what is your brother doing? And I said, listen, man, we get to the finals, we'll worry about it that, right? The picture is from my wedding just so everybody... Yeah, so it's the four of us partying at Harley's wedding in Mexico.

Carry on to us. So Harley Books is wedding early in the year. We end up making the Stanley Cup, the Senior League finals, the Saskalta Finals. I'm coaching, Harley and Sean are playing, and we play the first two games, three games. No, two games. So we lose game, we lose game one. and game, and I always like to tell, we lose game one to Dewberry,

and there's about seven of us that stay in the dressing room and have a couple social balls because in the senior, and I'm always curious to NHL players. How many, how many championships had seven or a row? So we sat in the dressing room after we lose game one,

because we didn't play a bad game, so we sat and we drank until, you know, one or two in the morning, and the day after that is what they call playing guilty, because you've, now you've gone out and partied tonight before, essentially, and you're a little bit hung over, we're a little bit groggy, we came out and we won game two.

And as I recall, three of the seven guys sitting in there all scored me one, four, one, or whatever it was, right? And I always chuckle about that, and I tell the young guys, sometimes you've got to play guilty, right? Like, you're just, you're taking it, you're thinking about it too much. So if you're down, and we've used this tactic a few times, and L-Point's been the brunt of that tactic several years in a row now, is if you're struggling, you go out and you have a couple social bowls, and you let off a little steam the next game, and you come and you play a little guilty, and it's worked. well for us but we're tied one one and then we leave so we're gonna go to Highals against Dewberry who's seven-time champ there are arch nemesis at the

time and it's the first year we've made the finals yes so and we have one and our captain and Dufus Harley have to go to his wedding in Mexico and miss games three four and five we have a great time in Mexico three four three four three three four thirty you want to tell the story do I need to tell the story So we go, like, holy crap here. Tell the story right here. They miss games three and four. So we fly out, we schedule it properly, so we miss games three and floor.

So if we fly down to Mexico, we have a grand old time. That's where the picture comes. We're all having a blast at the wedding. And the games haven't played yet. We don't know who's won. I don't know if there was no Twitter or what we were doing. We were texting. We were texting.

We knew we were down two games to one. That's right. When we landed the plane, we found out they lost game four and we were down three games to one. So we're on the plane. We know we're down two games to one. And we're playing in Dewberry that night. And so as we're landing me and Dustin flick on our phones, and we're about 10 seats apart.

And we're slowly getting text updates, and you can hear him dingin, ding it. Oh, yeah, yeah, one-noughts. All right. No, it's one-one. All right. The two won us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're back in like, three-one us.

All right. Three-two. No, no. We still got it. We still got this. Three-three. Four-three. We lost.

Fuck, you can hear it across the entire play, right? And it's just silence. and then you kind of look around, you're like, sorry about that guy's, right? So now we're sitting there, we're down 3-1. Harley's on the butt end of everything, because now we left for games three and four, we're down 3-1, we come back, and that's where that picture comes from, is we're sitting there party in Harley's wedding, unbeknownst to us, we get back, and we're now down three games to 1.

Now, our only saving grace is we win game 4 or game 5, we win game 6, and then we win game 7 on home ice. Let's be honest here. the saving grace is obviously getting the three newmans back because i mean right without the three newmans right i mean you know what the probably the cherry on top is for most guys they they use this against us all of what not to do when the playoffs comes don't do what the newmans did because you don't leave in the finals for a wedding who gets married then right but hardly gets cocky in game seven and can't remember anything was he actually there

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. So, that hell, that was just a story. Let's not even go around on it. That was, Drew wanted us tell why the picture was there. So if you've seen the picture on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, that's where it comes from. My final one for us is, this is a fun one. We do the Dusty Man Memorial every year. And I've heard about this now for two straight years because the Newman's can't seem to make Sunday. It is a very, very competitive rec hockey tournament.

And so James Rogers had text in going, what is it going to take for us to get back to the championship? Limit defensive zone faceoffs, less grain diesel for Nate, more ice time for Rogers. And he left it with, is the team of friends like a VCR in the digital age, are we just getting old? And so I go, what is it going to take for us to get back to Sunday? I think we need Nate off defense. That's our nephew for anyone wondering Jason's boy. But he likes to gypsy doodle and do funny things with the puck and ends up in the back around.

The funny thing about the entire thing is, is I don't know necessarily what we've really changed. When we won the very first year, we have had very close to the similar team every single year since that year. I think every other team has just stepped up the game, right? And I mean, I don't know, probably we run our mouth a little bit, but everybody seems to play us very, very tough.

If you sit and watch the tournament, the Wranglers aren't paying the man's easy. The man's aren't playing the Wranglers easy. This year the Broncos were in. And the hit, well, the alumni team this year, right? Nobody plays anybody easy because everybody knows everybody and it's just a very clean competitive tournament, right? But I've heard about it now for two years. That's heck why I'm getting the text about it. How are we going to get back to Sunday?

I find interesting about Rogers because I find, he reminds me a guy I coached at Junior B. You know, the guy in junior B in practice, man, he would hit everybody and he was miserable, right? Now he'd get in the game, he couldn't figure out where he went. And you watch Rogers at Noonauer hockey, and he is jamming the puck.

And the worst of the goal he is, he is driving through the net, and he thinks he's, now you get out in this dusty man tournament. I didn't even realize he'd been playing last time. Oh, yeah, I guess that's a shot across about James Rogers. You know, you're going to have to pick it up here. I think Jay touched on the solution.

Maybe Jay should be coaching. I'll tell you what, at that, what's happened with that dusty man in my mind is, it started off, you know, quite a few years ago now where it was kind of like family and friends and everybody put their teams together. And of course, you know, we won it a couple times and the Wranglers, so the man's, well, they're going to win, right? So then everybody just starts to ramp up slowly. And now you got to where dust is probably not wrong, where I look around and go,

I don't even know what I'm doing out there anymore. Like, it is fast hockey. And so for anyone on around the area, the Dusty Man is a wreck hockey tournament. It happens in October. And there's two divisions. This year was three. There's an A, a B, and a women's this year.

The A is about as competitive as it gets. And what you win when you win it on Sunday is a trophy with your name engraved on it, right? It's a huge bragging rights thing. For the community. For the community. The same group of teams have been in it since the beginning. The man's, the Wranglers, the Newman's,

the Hitman in some sense, right now it's the alumni, and then the Broncos are part of the Wranglers, right? So the same five teams have been in it since the beginning. So everybody knows everybody, for the most part, has won it, minus the alumni. And, well, I guess in the Broncos now, they won the B-side last year, and then it got pulled up. And it's just become this huge tournament that everybody looks forward to. I'm wondering, I'm going to say this. Are we going to have to pull in, like, Wade Red, and see if we can pull in an ex-N-HL or to come up? I'm going to say this because Bert has told us that he is no longer going to be on the team after this last year.

So I'm going to blame this all on Bert. And obviously we need a goaltender. That's going to be, I'm going to say, what our problem was, was Bert the goaltender. So Mr. Bill Cavalty sitting right beside me. Mr. Toronto alumni here, I don't know, maybe we need to make a few phone calls here. so it's a great tournament, right? And it's a quick tournament. You know, it's a never sweat in the 35 plus division.

It just becomes everybody, everybody out there, and it just gets better every year. And I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see where it goes because we've gotten older and we've enjoyed playing where it's family and friends. I don't know. Cool.

Well, we'll leave it there, boys. I want to really appreciate it. I've really enjoyed. this first ever, hopefully not the last Newman Brothers Roundtable. If you're listening, you can find this on Apple, Google Podcasts, Spotify, just take a quick peek. I know I've been getting questions on where you find it on your iPhone, but there's a purple icon called podcast. You just search Sean Newman Podcasts. You can pull it up right there. It's free, it's simple. And then next week, I thought I'd mentioned that we're going to have Garrett Tepper on.

He is the owner of Fight Farm in town. We're going to talk a little Jiu-Jitsu. Obviously, me and two of the brothers have been doing some Jiu-Jitsu, and we'd like to pull the fourth out and maybe mess him up a little bit. But we're going to talk about some Jiu-Jitsu and the Fight Farm and just what's going on with that. And once again, thanks for listening, and thanks for coming out, boys. Thanks for having us.