Shaun Newman Podcast - #404 - Wayne Peters 2.0

Episode Date: March 27, 2023

Longtime blue collar worker who started as a floor hand on a service rig, a stint in cementing and a decade of construction. He took his 30 year hobby of photography & visual design to become a beat journalist starting during the 2019 convoy to Ottawa (Yes 2019). He hosts What's Up Canada where he had names like Julie Ponesse, Byram Bridle & Steven Pelech draw straws early into the pandemic to see who would talk first. He now is bringing independent media together with "Looking Glass Media". Wayne's interview with Richard Higgins: https://odysee.com/@WhatsUpCanada:2/converging-threat-canada:8 Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Let me know what you thinkText me 587-217-8500

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He's the host of What's Up Canada and the creator of the platform, LGM.com. I'm talking about Wayne Peters. So buckle up. Here we go. This is Wayne Peters, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. I'm chuckling because I've got Wayne Peters back on. Obviously, if you listen to Friday's recording of the previous Saturdays, SMP presents, Legacy Media,

Wayne was one of the speakers on stage, and we've had her interactions now and everything else. First, I guess before I get to it, because I'm chuckling at how this morning is going. But how's Wayne doing? Kind of going the same way as your morning. It was a really late night, a long drive, an early morning, and hit the ground running. so, you know, the devil keeps us occupied when we're scrambling, right? Well, this is where I want to start, and this is why I'm truckling so much, because, you know, I interviewed, I think you even, here's the funny thing. I think you sent me Tanner's number, and he lives in the, like, right where I'm from, right?

I'm like, yeah, I know who that. Anyways, I was saying to Tanner on Wednesday's episode 402, folks, and a lot of people have listened to that. and here's what I'll say. This is one of the texts I got. I can't believe I listened to a two and a half hour podcast on Jesus and I'm eager to hear more. What a wild ride. Thanks for your platform, Sean.

And I'll be the first to say, I can't believe I did a two and a half hour talking about that. But since then, it's, it's kind of been this weird, you know, like normally I have things, like what do we talk about before you came on?

I want to talk fifth gen Morpher. Hope we get to it. I want to talk about what Wayne, seeing because Wayne is on, I think, the edge of, you know, some of the things he's staring at. I think that's really important. But then as soon, just before I was waiting for you to come in, you know, I'm waiting for Wayne and I have a buddy text. And he goes, he asked about the Tanner podcast, so I send him a text back.

And then he said, yeah, I think the Holy Spirit is moving. And your statement about Tanner with many of us feeling and thinking similarly, but thinking we are on an island, what is that? How many of us can have our souls and minds be getting tugged? in similar directions. And then I responded back. And I want to get Wayne's thoughts on this, folks, is I think, just go back to the dark days of COVID,

when you were unsure if we were the last hundred people on earth with common sense. And even then, you're like, maybe I should conform. And I put in brackets, that's me. I was like, maybe I should just conform. Maybe life will be easier if I conform. Then the convoy happens and you realize you're part of 10 million, probably more. when I think back to how alone we really were like this isn't worth it anymore type thinking

that's alone man now flip the script to sitting on the bed and allowing and I'm telling a personal story I guess I should of he he was so stressed he he sat on the bed and he and I said whatever your word is to take control that you were done struggling and then he has a you know like this spiritual experience if you will and I've had a guy that comes to mind is Spencer Boats, a young kid in Ottawa in his truck, talks about having God come to him in his semi, right? And I said, well, you think that that is an insane thing to think or to experience. Except, Wayne, we've been through COVID. And so now we're all sitting here going, so are we the hundred or are we half the planet? My guess is we're half

the planet. So the question is, why is this subject so taboo? Wayne, we're all. Why is it so taboo? Because it is, in fact, a cornerstone of the fifth generational affair. And people fear what they don't understand. So that's lots to do with this discussion in the first place. A lot of people don't understand Christianity or they don't understand it fully. They don't understand the power that it has. And it's difficult to explain that unless you have a deep belief yourself.

and I was smiling as you were talking about that person that these people that have had these experiences I had my own experience exactly like that and for me it came immediately after the convoy in 2019 but throughout searching for to try and explain that my own experience because I'm very pragmatic that's kind of what drives me if I don't understand something I am a dog with a bone until I do right so I was very very curious about my own experience in that and that led me to actually interviewing a bunch of street preachers and people that have had other experiences, you know, along this line. One particular story really blew me away was this fella from I don't want to drop anything that's going to lead to people being found, but somebody that had spent many years fighting in the Middle East from the other side of the fence that we were on, particularly.

I've seen videos of this man with 50 caliber machine guns. Just he was your prototypical Islamic badass. Wakes up in the middle of the night, talking to Jesus, goes and talks to his Imam. And at the end of the day, they were so afraid of this man that they tried to kill him and blow him up. And he's now safely over here in North America. But so profound these experiences, that they are life-altering to an extreme, as in that case there that I just shared. Mine was as extreme to me as anything I've ever felt when I had my moment,

and I can only describe it as my surrender. And since that moment, I think I've experienced a whole lot more of exactly those kinds of things. I think it's once that doorway opens, there's an absolute connection, and a lot of people use a lot of different ways to describe it, and I don't intend to offend anybody in that. But to me, that a divine connection is known as God and Jesus and those kinds of things. And what I'm seeing out there is I'm really seeing people retracting back to that. I'm seeing a revival of faith in the unexplain.

And again, this is all a part of that war because the part of the fifth generational warfare is a cultural war, informational war. And they are at war with us. And this is where I started to get to before you decided to hang on. We'll do it on the show. Over here in North America, our cultures, our countries, our nations, are God's in the first sentence, right? I mean, we're nations under God. We have built our nations under these ideologies and faith, this Christian Judeo value system that we have here in North America

has provided for one of the most luxurious, wonderful life in human history. Life is more comfortable than it has ever been in human history. And as we've gotten more comfortable, these people have started to wage this culture war against us, which includes that foundation of our culture with our Christian Judeo beliefs, attempting to denigrate, remove that from our society. And they started on this decades ago. To me, this was a stunning discovery when I found that 20 years ago,

they were already, the government of Canada was telling Christian preachers what they could and could not speak about from the pulpit. that was a war on our culture. And it's gotten to the point where people have denounced God, they've denounced our society, they've denounced all these value systems that created our society. And it's literally left us weak. And people are scrambling,

trying to figure out what's going on. Well, to me, I see this as the bottom line is we have grown up in nations that are built on these Judeo-Christian values. When we stick to them, we follow them, life is good. The further we get removed from those values,

the less the less focus there is on maintaining those values, hence the judicial system, the parliamentary system, everything becomes weaker and weaker and weaker. So this war on Christianity has left us splintered and fractured

as to what our core basic values are as a nation. And the honest truth of it is, we lived off of the, you know, a good life off of the fruits of those values. The further we get away from those values, the further we get away from the fruits of those values. And people are, I think, being drawn back to that understanding of the values

and where it fits in there without really actually understanding it. You know, they're coming back to the understanding of that, but without understanding it. So people are very dear in the headlights with this, because they don't really truly understand the Christianity. the faith, and I think a lot of that has to do with the war on Christianity, the war on the pastors, the churches that's going on two decades, all a part of this fifth-generation warfare, which is unconventional warfare.

And it's interesting to me, because what I was trying to tell Tanner, and I don't know if I did a great job of it, but you now have a portion of the world that does not want to be told what to do or think. And it was always like that, but it is very, very evident now, right? I mean, there's just a group of people that, you know, are, even if they weren't like that before COVID, they are now. Like, it has molded them into people that you could have the answer. And they will think, what are you trying to do with that answer, right? Like, you're literally dehydrated.

You're going to die. I have water. I don't know. Can I trust you? So one of the things, I think, in this subject is, like, whether, uh, you're, you're going to, you're going to die. you know, it's, it's Christianity or, you know, there's like, just go around the world. There's all these different religions and, and, uh, belief systems and structures and everything else, you know, and one of the things you cannot do to this population is tell them,

this is it. And, uh, you can't tell it's, it's puts my tail feathers up in a ruffle. Right. Right. Like, uh, Christians want to say, this is it. You, you know where this is it. And it's like, hmm, believe me, I'm leaning. I'm leaning.

but at the same token, you push me and I'm going to push back. And so it's a very interesting little subject, isn't it? Because once again, Sean's been thinking like, it's probably just something I need to talk more about, get more of different people on, get more perspectives, everything else, more so for my curiosity and my brain, because I look around and I go, like, you know, you don't have to look further than our own country.

and when you try and force a population to adopt your beliefs and they don't come to it willingly, well, I think of, you know, you get parts of what is, First Nations and their beliefs system being fractured and then them all trying to kind of find their way back to their core beliefs and everything. And people really, what am I trying to say here, really are attracted to their belief system and how they connect to the earth and things like that. And yet Christianity came in and tried, and I, listen,

now I'm going to really blow the phone, you know, like people are going to start texting again. It's just like when you, what I'm trying to say is when you force people to do something against their will, even if you know it's the right answer, they,

like they won't agree or they'll revolt or they'll go against it. Like, for me at least, you need to find, you need to find your own path there. So there's there there are these things that are inherently in our nature that we want we try to deny right. And the reality of it is, is I can't off the top of my head or even if I look, find a culture present or past that did not have some sort of form of belief system. There has been thousands of gods, not just our God. So throughout our human history, we are inherently wired to worship or to have some explanation to explain the unexplainable to let us sleep at night.

And it doesn't matter what it is that people will adopt something, whether if it's not Christianity, if it's not one of these other religions, then they will adopt something that will be their religion. So we're back to the warfare. If they eliminate God and faith, well, what ends up happening is the politics become their religion. And that's kind of where we're at. We've been caught in this, what I've been calling this for years, a satanic lullaby. And it doesn't matter what we believe. It matters that the enemy 100% believes in whatever their God is. Right now it's alphabet soup or green climate or whatever the case might be.

That is their faith. that is their religion. This is where we see this zealotry and this vehemence and this, you know, a complete sacrifice to their faith and their, I mean, these, these climate cult agendas are nearly at the kamikaze point for their own religion. Tell me that's not, you know, that that's not, you know, the same level of connection to whatever that might be. and this is where people have been, people with bad intentions have been manipulating the faiths

to either confuse, alienate, or destroy any of the faiths so that ultimately people will gravitate to, because you become what you're surrounded by. That is also human nature, bar none, you will become what you're surrounded by. If there's no counterbalance of faith and knowledge or anything, you will become that godless Borg. It's funny. What do they say? You know, surround yourself with people who are better than you for sure, but people that have your best interest in heart and things like that. And you become the sum of what your five closest friends or confidons or whatever.

And it's like that makes a lot of sense, honestly. Like, you know. Yeah, it's one of those things. I mean, I worked in sales and my environments for years and one of the. little party favorite gigs that we used to do would impress people and it's not it's just it is you take your five closest friends

you take their income annual income and you write it down on a piece of paper and you write yours down I guarantee you'd be bang on in the middle really yeah well that's interesting isn't it I'm pretty sure sitting here as a podcaster I like to think

I gotta be right at the very bottom of my friend list on incomes, you know, sitting in the oil field, being a little tiny podcast man, but hey, I tell you what, your five closest associates, not, you know, like the people that you're the closest to, you'll, yeah, yeah, yeah, almost invariably you will be bang in the middle of it or perhaps to the bottom, depending on how long you've been connected, but either which way, the people at the top will come down to the middle and the people at the bottom will come up to the, to the middle. You know, it's funny as we're sitting here talking. So this

chat folks, you know, somebody said my chat with Tanner, you know, like it was just like so refreshing to hear two people speak so openly about it, right? I'm not comfortable in this conversation whatsoever I want to. It's like,

I'm comfortable because it's Wayne, but like I'm talking about something that I know what Jack's got about. I've talked openly about like I've started reading the Bible. I tried reading it from Genesis and I like it's not that it's not that it's like so boring but it's honestly folks it's kind of like oh and uh so i you know i started reading the new testament and man i tell you what the new testament's something else like uh um you listen

to the words of jesus i mean like the guy it like when i sit across in this studio i was thinking about this when i sit in this studio and i asked people used to ask you know who if you could interview one person who did you take the amount of times jesus came up and i was like well that's kind of a cop-out. Like, everybody would interview Jesus. It's like, well, you can actually go read his words, you know, you dumb ass, Sean, right? It's like, so you start reading, you're like, that's a profound thought.

Like, that is, that is something else, you know? And it's funny. So anyways, where I'm trying to go with this is, you know, like before we start this, I'm thinking about fifth gen warfare, whatever, and then I get a text and then we read it off, right? And as we're sitting here, I never look at my phone

because I don't want to interrupt the conversation. And I look down because it's flipped up because whatever. And it's another friend and they've texted the five levels of spiritual combat. And it's a, it's a podcast with two guys on it that I'm sure I'll have to go take a listen to. And I'm like, oh man, this is a strange world we've entered. You've entered the realm of perpetual discussion without answers from the human form because all that we can do is interpret. We can't go back and ask the man. What did you mean? when you put this quip in there right so this is where you you get so many people that have spent decades

or perhaps their entire lifetime having these discussions and once you get into into those discussions it's never-ending theological discussion from there and i mean you look at uh i i tend to watch a lot of archaeology a lot of history uh a lot of research that's just kind of always been my thing and it's interesting to me to see the same debate about Christianity today as we're 100 years ago, as we're 200 years ago, as we're 500 years ago, we're still having the same discussions and making the same mistakes, by the way, right? Do you think this is unusual? Well, maybe not.

You know, you're probably right. But it feels like there's a huge chunk of the population that is very open to talking about, well, look at me. I'm, if I represent, you know, 100 people and 100 people listen represent another 100, you just think like, there's so many people that are open to the conversation where I'm not kidding to you, Wayne. Jesus, the word Jesus probably no less, well, right before the Freedom Convoy, let's go a year and a half ago. It wasn't a swear word, but kind of had that connotation of you can't say it on live air. how many times ladies and gentlemen have I dropped the F-bomb and it just flows off the tongue

but I say the word Jesus up until now and it's like oh I don't know we're looking for the apple to come right right so it's like what the heck you know like is this in your mind is this something new or is this something that happened 1,500 years ago and 1,200 years ago and a thousand years ago and it just keeps happening and we're just living an iteration of it. Or do you think it's something different? From Jesus' time until now, Christians have been persecuted, and it's one of those things where, to me, in my mind, I think a lot of them have taken that to the extreme. They feel like if you're not being persecuted, you're not a good Christian, right?

And I've, wow, we are definitely in the weeds from where you do. told me we were going to be Sean so this has been a been something that I've been challenging people in their discussions for my whole life I come from a a family with deep faith backgrounds and controversial as well and in trying to solve some of these questions for myself I spent 30 years studying faith religion all different kinds all of these things and I I I I am completely at peace with where I'm at, but I have come to that piece with understanding that there is a difference between faith and religion. Religion became a tool hundreds and hundreds of years ago when the kings and lords realized that, wait a minute, these people that believe in something, they don't care about my standing armies.

They don't care about this, that, or the other thing, they're going to do it anyways. So if they fear, it's imaginary what they call the imaginary being, if we can control that fear, we can, you know, eliminate our standing armies. So they built places, buildings, so that they could get them all together and create a pattern in a system of governance through fear of the religions in the face that they leveraged rather than having the expense of standing armies. So I think that there's some translation that's lost over the evolution of time and history and space and that. And I'm always very cynical and critical. And I've confused myself probably more than I should have when I look at how many different Bibles are out there. And they do not all say the same thing. That creates more questions.

So at the end of the day, I came basically down to the conclusion that religion, is man's interpretation of what Jesus said and what the books say. We go to the churches and we hear some dudes interpretation. That's the dude's interpretation, the dude's words, not God's. It's still up to us to understand them. So for me, I have a very deep, very close relationship, but that's personal. That's between me and God and Jesus.

and in a B-budget movie, I was set free a movie called Kingdom of Heaven, which is set in the Crusades, Orlando Bloom and Liam Neum Neeson. You just went up in my father's books all over again. He loves the scene where he slaps him in the face and says, and this is so you'll never forget, yes. Well, for me, the one Templar Knight, Orlando Bloom's character's kind of ally and a friend, And Orlando Bloom says, I've lost my religion. And this warrior Templar Knight laughs at him.

And he says, you don't find your religion in your church. You don't find it on the Temple Mount. You find it in here and in your heart and in your actions every day. That is where your faith and religion is. It doesn't come from a building. And that really set me free from being pressured, feeling pressured by the constraints of these people that were trying to tell me, the only way I could be a good Christian

was if I showed up in church every Sunday and dropped my little shackles in the bowl there. No, that never sat right with me. I, again, I am not qualified to discuss scripture, but I can talk about human nature. You know, it's funny. if we talked about COVID, Wayne wouldn't go,

well, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, it's like, but when we get into this, people are uncomfortable. It's,

it's interesting to watch, you know, but I'm laughing because here's what I wrote at the bottom of my text, okay? And this is just my thought. And you just said part of my thought. So I'm like,

well, I mean, me and Wayne, this is just, I told you, I don't know where, like, I haven't studied this.

I haven't looked into the history books for 2,000 years and seen the similarities play out and have all the stories. But my initial thought was, my guess is over the course of a thousand years, things have been done in the name of Christianity, Jesus, and if we allow the other faiths, Allah, etc., that have put people in positions of power to realize faith-created community and communities have a quiet power, even stoic maybe. So whether it's the devil actively fighting God, or it's the act of people in political seats going, we can't control a group of people who move as a unit, I'm not sure. but one thing is clear to me, the world would like us to believe that if you have a spiritual experience, you're an outsider, which I think is hogwash and will have its day. To me, like,

politics is all about pandering to different groups. Like, you watch, take the conservative hero, Pierre Poliev, instead of just being who he is and saying what is on his mind and being honest, everyone around him, everyone in politics says you can't do it that way. You do it that way, you lose. because you're going to piss off this group, and you're going to piss off that group, you're going to piss everybody off. And I'm like, yeah, but what he's doing is pissing off every group. Everybody's watching him and go pander to the Quebecers,

then come over to Alberta and say they're the greatest, and then go back to Ontario and say, we'll never do this. Meanwhile, he just said everybody can follow along. For too long, they haven't, myself included, right? Trudeau is no better. Actually, Trudeau is very much worse. But to me, it's like, once you realize there's this commonality

of whether it's 100 people in a community or 10,000 or a million, people in power that are trying to do things, especially that is voted in a popularity contest, do things in order to control that. And then I just imagine you get an evil person that wants to rule the world or what have you. And you can see how that plays out. Play on people's deepest beliefs.

This is, you've just in a nutshell described the course of the last 2000, years of conflict. In no religion is warfare and mass extermination, basically, and accepted behavior. But yet, through the annals of history, we have seen how many genocides and slaughterers and murders in the name of religion. So to me, that's a very significant distinction between religion and faith. If you were faith, you don't harm other people because some guy, You know, in fancy suits says you should, right? This is a decommate that every person of influence and power has sought to harness control or leverage since the beginning of the opportunity for them to do so.

And to me, you know, the whole world is my church. And every person in it, whether they agree with me or not, is a creature of each. equal worth and value to us. And whether we disagree or not, we may end up here, you know, not liking each other, but at the end of the day, that doesn't change our value. And that is one of the things that sets, you know, the difference between using faith and religion as a weapon of politics versus people that believe in a faith rather than religion

or religion. If they believe in a deeper faith, that outside of that control, it's going to be very difficult for them to be harnessed into that going and doing that, you know, taking part in that political conflict. So this is what they actually, I think, fear the most. So can you imagine what would happen if all of the religions of the world stop fighting? What politician would ever have a chance to start a war? Because without the following of the faithful, there would be no war. Isn't that an interesting thought, Wayne?

I mean, I don't even know what to say at the end of that, right? I just, these are large questions that I think for, you know, I wonder how many of an old man and an old man I'm going to put it 70 and I know that folks, if you're 70 or 65, I'm just trying to put a number on it. I'm not trying to say that you're, you know, anyways, you get the point. How many people by that age have pondered that thought? and then how many on top of that have acted on it trying to and then how many have thought that you know have gone through my my thought process on COVID which is eventually you get to I should just conform because it is you know it'll be an easier life I mean that's a deep you know like one thing is to just argue if God is real or if Jesus is is the way and things like

that. And once again, we can go back and forth on this all night long. I literally have no expertise. I'm telling you people right now. Like literally, I just started reading the New Testament a few days ago. I find it fascinating. Probably because I'm actually looking at it for the first time ever where I'm like actually reading the words, which people will get. And some people will be like, what does he mean by that? It's like, just take that approach and actually read it and see what comes of it anyways but like you wonder how many people towards the late stages mid stages wherever you're at have actually thought about it to the point where they're like I wonder if it's futile to even try and broach going down that road you ever watch a movie you really like

repeatedly over and over and over again yes and when you get to the seventh or eight time you're doing different stuff Well, I think I hear of Cletus. No man ever, no man ever enters the same river twice because the river is constantly changing and he is constantly changing. So you can read a book at 18 and then read it at 20. You've had different life experiences and now certain things speak to you. I'm reading a book right now that is pissing me off, pardon the French, because I don't know why it was suggested to me. It is, and I'm going to search it right quick here.

it is this side of paradise by Scott Fitzgerald. And I just keep listening to it. I'm like, why am I listening to this way? Like, why did somebody suggest it? And there's two things that have stuck out to me. There's a chapter on, in my opinion, the devil. And it was like the most fascinating chapter ever. Because it has no purpose of being in the book.

I don't even know why it's in the book. he's literally coming home from the bar and a guy in like kind of like a leprechaun I think you know with those like curled shoes and like kind of looks like a clown maybe just follows him quietly and he's unnerved and he gets home and he looks in the window and you're like okay and and nothing that's it you know it's this the ghost of the darkness that chases us always right you know and one of the things that I wanted to to

before we get too far away from that yeah uh we We've, again, this is a result of the work of the fifth generation warfare. You talk about these people that they think. And then finally, they coalesce. They're beat down and they coalesce. That is literally the result of the cultural mindset that they've implemented on us. And you think back in our politics, can you think of when it moved from politicians campaigning as to who could do the most for you? and that's who we voted for to who is going to hurt us the least,

and that's who we vote for. In fairness, Wayne, you know, you know this. I don't think I paid, you know, like you get to vote, right? You get to vote at what, 18? And up until 30, I don't think I really paid attention. I just voted conservative. Like I just, like, and I know that that happens on both sides, liberal and conservative.

You're just wandering, you know, you should vote liberal. You're not paying attention to nothing. You're out there, you know, living life in your 20s. Like, that's what's part of this side of paradise. That's why I'm so irritated by it. Is it literally walks you through a man's life where he's chasing women and talking to women and trying like, you know, thinks he's like this smart guy. And it just, it just irritates me because probably I see a bunch of myself in it. It's like, can we get to the part where he finally realizes he's a dumbass?

Can we do that? I don't know if that ever happens. But anyways, you get the point. No, I can't remember where politics changed. I stare at our politics where Pierre Pollyev is like asking the same question over and over and they just won't answer it. And you understand, I think, that at least now, it's like, if they answer it truthfully, then the conservatives will take that and blast it everywhere in social media.

And they'll say, this is who's leading you and they're weak and they're whatever. And that is our politics. And I hear old-timers talk about a time where the official opposition and the leaders actually work together to solve problems. And I'm like, with the media. Where did that go? And how do we get back there? How do we get back there, Wayne? Is it impossible?

I hope it's not impossible. The challenges that we have, though, are so quantified now. amplified. I think people are realizing slowly and at an ever increasing rate that if you keep voting for the lesser of the two evils sooner or later, all you have is pure evil still. No matter what, all you've got is evil. And we've been living with this hope against hope that will get somebody that isn't evil. But at the end of the day, they're still all playing with us, because that's the rules. That's the rules that they've sworn to.

So how do you beat the other guy's evil? You have a little less evil. Nobody is campaigning on what is good. You know, it's all about we won't do this and we won't do that. We can do that. And can you imagine what it would be like if somebody campaigned at that level saying, We're going to do this and we're going to do that instead of we're not going to do this and we're not going to do that because there's still all in the same in the same sandbox at that point. And to me, perfect embodiment of that is I have this burning question for Pierre Polivari.

And it's kind of a question just before you go. Burning question. Do I keep saying his name wrong? Pure Polivir? Yeah. Polyev. Yeah. At this point,

it doesn't matter. Okay. Carry on. If I'm messing it up, I hope he comes and challenges me for it because I've got a question for him. Burning question. What is the burning question? Pierre Polivari came out and said,

none of my ministers will attend world economic forum events. Leslyn Smith got, Leslyn Lewis got slammed for being a conspiracy theorist talking about World Economic Forum. Anybody else that has brought it up has been slammed as a conspiracy theorist for talking about World Economic Forum, any of those things.

Pierre now says that none of his ministers will attend any of these events. Why, Pierre? Why can none of these people, and why can nobody attend any of these events? Because you're not helping us out here. We're either conspiracy theorist, tentful hat wearers, or we're not.

Now you're saying that they can't, so either we're right or you're not answering. So why? I want to know why specifically why Pierre will say no to any of his members heading to the World Economic Forum. Do you think he's truly thought it out? No. Or he just went, these people believe that the W.E.F. is the worst place on the earth.

So we will say they can't go in order to panner to them just enough to get their vote. Pierre is as equally contracted to the World Economic Forum through the UNSDA and the migration compacts as Trudeau. The only thing that they are debating over is who gets the purse strings to tick off the out-of-boy list of these non-binding agreements that are non-binding to the UN, but 100% binding to us. I mean, they're locking us up in jail for it and throwing away to the key on these amendments and laws and rules that they're imping. implementing off of those lists. So why, Pierre? Why, Pierre will he not address any single thing when it comes to our concerns with this? Why will he not address the pandemic treaty?

Why will he not address any of these international ideological agreements that are absolutely becoming these shackles of us individual Canadians? And he's supposed to be there to defend us. And all he can give us is, no, they just can't go. That's not enough. They have forced us to become far too educated. There is, you know, if anybody hasn't heard Klaus Schwab, and we have penetrated the cabinets, we are most proud of the true liberal cabinet

where we have more than half of the membership. That's foreign infiltration, folks. What are we doing? What the hell are we doing, allowing this illegitimate government to implement foreign policies and the people that we are betting our hopes on is equally contractually obligated to it.

This is the definition of insanity to me. Yeah, it's, it's, I don't, I don't know what to sit. Once again, folks, I'm like, I'm sitting here. I listen to Wayne, I'm like, man, like, what do you say to that? Like, does a new, no conservative wants to hear a new party because what happens when a new party comes is it splits the conservatives because the conservatives. because the conservatives are the ones who want it, and the liberals are the ones that they just know what they're, you know, honestly,

is then again, you have the NDP, and the NDP and the liberals kind of split votes as well, I guess. But, you know, you just, like, it's like, I just feel like there's somebody, there's a way out there, and I feel like this is the most naive thought in the world that can just walk in, say it the way it is, address people's concerns, speak to people losing their mind and be like, no, that's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is this, we need blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know what blah, blah, blah, blah is. And not be controlled by all the shackles that government is. Or is it just our government because the other, you know, there probably is a person like that. And then people say the longer you're in government, the more you just get warped by it because you have to and blah, blah, blah. You become with your surrounded by, right? Right. So are we saying that our current form of government eventually it just has to change because it, you know, we continue to do the lesser form of evil, which means you add up over the years and you're getting to this place where, you know, what did Tanner once say on stage?

I want to say he said, the big laws give you freedom, the little ones take it away. And all we're at right now is all these little laws. We're at these little tiny rules that make zero sense. but it's like death by a thousand cuts and we're so like how do you abolish a whole bunch of stupid rules I would assume you have somebody get in power and go we're not doing that anymore except

then they get harassed because you can't do that and you're overstepping your bounds and blah blah blah so you're like okay so how do we how do we so I think it's it's simpler to explain and it's actually too simple and people they don't want to accept it Andrew Breitbart said that all politics runs downstream of culture.

And the more I think about that, the more profoundly correct he is. So we've got all of these negative impacts on our culture. And it's created this system where we as Canadians think so much like Americans, we believe that we are a nation ruled by the rule of law and order. We are not. We are a democracy, which means the rule of the mob. So ultimately, if you don't have the rule of law over the rule of mob, you will invariably and inevitably always end up in a tyranny. So is this why, in Canada specifically, they don't want us talking about, and I'm going to use faith.

Honestly, I think I'm going to go right to that. Because if it is rule by mob, which I actually agree with, I don't know why, when you put it so simply, it just snaps in my brain. It's like, so the reason you don't talk about faith and have people starting to align on faith, not on Christianity folks, on faith. You're getting it. Because then you'd bring, like, that's what Ottawa was. When you say it like that, I'm like, oh, there's a whole bunch of faith people coming together, seeing it for what it was because we've been sold all these lies. So they don't want us talking about the things that matter. And what truly matters is these deep-seated beliefs.

they take that all out and that way you can't do because if it's just culture then you you could just be like well we don't want that anymore actually you look at some of the COVID laws in Alberta what happened or across Canada they started to remove them why because all the people were losing their shit

literally Canada is run by take your pick Bugsie Malone or Al Capone right this is how our government is literally run the most popular mobster gets the piece of paper and a small group of people sit down and agree upon a set of rules and that they're going to enforce on the masses at that point.

That's the law, right? So we've elected gangsters. They've gotten together in their little caves, and they've come up with laws that now govern the people. So we're literally, that's how our government and our democracy works. But this is the thing that I've been screaming right from the, beginning of time, history has proven to us that when the court of public opinion has had enough said small group of people that write their little words on a piece of paper and call them laws,

they ultimately get removed. So it's the court of public opinion is ultimately the highest jurisdiction on the planet. And when the court of public opinion starts to come together, it doesn't necessarily have to be about faith, the Netherlands is what's going on there is exactly that. And that is what they feared the most out of the convoy in Ottawa. If it would have been a Christian convention, they'd have had no fear of that. But because this was such a broad spectrum coming together of the court of public opinion and passing judgment on all of these things that were wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

that was probably the closest Canada has ever come to actually tipping the pirate syndicate out of control. But the problem is, in my opinion, is that we don't have an action plan because most of us don't understand the recognized jurisdictions of our country. I'm going to write. I do this to you every time, Sean. I don't know. Man, it's been an interesting little week here because I just have these little things that just seem to be, you know, you stare, you ever done a puzzle, Wayne, where it's like a thousand piece puzzle, my dad loves them, and you can stare at it for hours and get nothing in. And all of a sudden you're like, oh, there's one, there's one, and there's one, and there's one, and there's one. And you're like, that has taken me, why didn't I see that before? Now, a thousand piece puzzle might be a little bit much. But to me, one of the things I struggled with the moment. in COVID is we have laws. We have this document that says these are our rights

and we're not abiding by any of it. That makes zero sense. Except in our country, you're ruled by the mob. So if the mob says, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a piece of paper, but I mean, get vaccinated or whatever it is, then that's what we do. And actually

if you're an outsider, thinking about this, if you're like rationally doing, not rationally, if you're doing fifth gen warfare, you see Canada and you go, man, this is easy. All we got to do is get them worked up so much that they don't realize they're tearing down their own constitution and like, you know, way we go. And I don't know what comes to that,

but it's easy to infiltrate because they're just welcoming in, right? Just welcome it in. Just keep on coming. And we don't have where it's actually we don't do that because of these things. You can get it as mad as you want, but here's our law. This is what it is. And you can't, you know, take away a person's faith because above that, it says, God.

And you're like, I don't think I fully understood that. Maybe I still don't, but I'm starting to. But one of the things that really drove me nuts was like, we have all these laws. Why aren't we doing it? Except we're ruled by the mob. And if you can control the mob, which you can never truly control a mob, you can influence. and if you can influence them in your direction, then all of a sudden, you're right.

We could take out a ton of laws that make zero sense in an immediate hurry, couldn't we? 100%. And this is where we have to have a better understanding because our history has been stolen from us. We have to have a better understanding of jurisdictions. On that jurisdictions apply to different situations, problems, crises, and solutions. is that a competent jurisdiction to resolve the problem.

The challenge that we're up against and that the enemy has leveraged to max capacity is that the wheels of justice only still turn from 10 to 4 Monday to Friday, whereas the warfare wages 24-7, so the wheels of justice are going to take 100 years, to catch up to anything that we're dealing with now. So we're going to have to decide, do we want to wait for the mob, the rulers of the mob, to decide when we can have justice?

Because they all wear the same tailor and none of the, you know, every last person in politics in a position of power, in my opinion, has the same tailor as Trudeau. So at what point, such a sonatial. sense of humor sometimes at what point do we eat the cake right you know uh because you know this is this is literally in netherlands history repeating itself so i think mr ruich better be careful and if he wants to live with his people or become a dinner for his people over there in the netherlands but i mean all kidding aside this this is the the this dark agenda um has triggered this uh collective awareness to that there's there's this isn't right um and and they're they're struggling and

Canadians in particular we've never had to defend ourselves from ourselves we have no idea what a coup looks like in Canada but you're right the people on with with dark intentions see Canada as easy pickings and Trudeau started it for him. Trudeau laid the first barrage when he come out and said Canadians have no core identity, and he would make us the first post-nation state of the United Nations, and if we didn't like it, we would be replaced. We've all been sitting here like we got rocked by the, you know, Mike Tyson punch trying to go, where is our, what is our core Canadian identity? I have seen our core Canadian identity displayed over and over and over and over and over again in the last five years, but we still struggling with owning it because our leader said we don't have one, right?

So we've got this lemming capitalism, this lemming politics that tends to float along with the river as it goes, but more and more of us are realizing that this water smells very much badly. And it's at that point where they become very shattered on the things that we knew. it's a difficult point our Canadian identity is the same as our personal identity we process it the same way we identify ourselves as a piece of garbage or as a great person

that's how we move forward we will move forward with whatever we tell ourselves we get what we tell ourselves so the longer we stay in paralysis guessing when we're trying to figure out oh wait a minute do I have a core I have a core Canadian identity I only have one homeland

and it is amazing. Canada has, you know, so many unique talent, skill sets, people, uniqueness that how could we not look at it as the, you know, this amazing place? And that in itself is our identity. But we struggle with believing in ourselves as Canadians as well. And we tend to not get involved until we're absolutely forced.

And when we do, it's usually has so far, and our nation's short history worked in our favor. But the rest of the world knows is because we are the last to react, they pay the most attention. And what happened in the Netherlands had an awful lot to do with what's been going on in Canada in the last couple of years as far as for inspiring those people to. I mean, if you look through the protests over there, there are so many Canadian flags over there. we just need to find that same level of focus. We're doing the best to make sure we have none of, and that's that singular focus like we saw in Ottawa at the convoy. One of the,

I think we're finding that focus. I was invited out to Wainwright, to, to, facilitate a concerned citizens group. Shout out to Shane and Morley for inviting me to do that. I'd never done it for a concern group before. So I just take what I'd done with you guys on stage this past weekend.

And I was trying to like, I don't know, allow them to do whatever they want. And I would just talk. You know, like, you want me to do it that way? Sure. And they just kept saying no, you do it your way. You do it your way. You do it your way. You do it your way.

Finally I went, okay, I'll do it my way. And if you don't like it, I apologize. And I went and I did it almost identical on a smaller version is what I did at the S&P presents. And what was really cool about it, Wayne, is they were focusing directly on bylaws, just bylaws. And I look, can we get a more boring subject? Like, I mean, like, honestly. and it was about an hour and 35 in maybe less than that an hour and 20 in right i'd given them you know time for each one of them to speak took a break came back on sean had them all on on stage

Sean asked a couple questions and by the time we're at an hour and change I had nothing left because I'm like I think you've laid it out perfectly here is the solution to bylaws get organized have someone read it so you know what you're talking about and show up so in numbers and just say we don't want this and you have to keep showing up over and over again but that's the focus you have to be focused on what you're trying to do and one of the things i would say about fifth gen is it's what malone said when he came on you know when when they started talking about nord stream and the fact like oh man This is bad for us. What happened?

Aliens. Balloon, like, just any story they could push out there, they pushed. And when we're sporadic and can't just focus in on the problem, it's hard to get a solution because all you do is talk. I think about COVID. I talked about COVID for like 100 straight episodes. And it slowly became like crystal clear what was wrong. But what's the solution?

They just keep flooding you with stuff. over and over and over again. And if we stare at 50 problems, you never solve one. If you lock in on one, it's like, it's pretty easy. And then you create the playbook, and you share that along to the next community, in the next community, in the next community, and pretty soon, I'm not saying it can all go away

because they're going to play back, you know. But positive things can be done real fast. Well, to pull a little analogy out of my firefighter, days, you know, if I was fighting a rig fire, a tank fire, and the valves are burnt out, and the weight of the fluid is pushing the fluid out there, if I'm trying to fight this fire from the far edge of the lake, I will never be able to put the fire out until the supply of the fluid has ceased. But if I go to the source, the tap, where it's coming out, and feeding the lake of fire and I start to put the fire out there the the momentum of that carries

through and puts out the the lake of fire right and this is kind of where I'm looking at where we're at here now in the grand scheme of these things and you know there's so many righteous fights out there people are fighting you know for for the good all across the spectrum but I wonder if any of those are going to matter if we don't pick one or two or three out of them to focus all of our energy on first. Will the rest of them, will we ever get to finish those fights? I don't think so. That's kind of where I'm looking at here now is what, and I would love to know from the people out there, what are the top three things that we need to collectively...

I tell you what, folks, you heard Wayne's question, text, hit the text line and text me the three things you think we need to focus on. And I might argue, let's dumb it down to two, right? Well, I would actually expand that. And this is from experience of an exercise that I attended in a stadium full of 20,000 people. Everybody was given a pen and a paper and to write down their top 10 biggest fears and their top 10 biggest desires on the other side of the page. And out of 20,000 people, they were almost all identical, but just in a slightly different order. Yeah, so you're talking data points.

The more data points we have come in when we ask a question like this, then we can narrow in and see what everybody's talking about. I mean, in that case, they're all talking about the same thing. All right, how many do you want, Wayne? Because I'm putting it to listeners right now. How many you want them text? I'd be happy if anybody did it at all. I don't know.

I mean, with my community, I've never done this before, so I have no idea. But I mean, we're in an exercise now. Folks, you have the text number right in the show notes. scroll down, click on it, and text how many things? How many you want? Five. Five things. If you can think of five or less,

if you can't think of more than one, one. But if you can think up to five, anywhere in between, text me when you get to this point. I'm telling you just pause it right now and do it. We do this like once in a blue moon. And I'm going to push on everyone who's listening here. You have five fears or five things you think we need to tackle. Let's do it.

Let's find out what they are. are. I'll share it with Wayne and then maybe we can have a follow up conversation on it. Why not? Like, instead of just, you know, meandering through the darkness and hoping we stumble on the answer, let's get to what people really want. Yeah, it's kind of, and this kind of just really came to me in the moment is, you know, every one of us is fighting the most important fight of our lives. But are we fighting the most important fight for the world or for our species? that isn't always the same answer. Hmm.

Hmm. For the world or for our species, elaborate on that, just a smidge. Just to pick something. So somebody is fighting the say the land use bylaws or the alphabet soups, whatever the fight is.

That's the most important fight to that person in their lives. They are giving 100% of all of that. but if that doesn't stop nuclear war, is that the most important fight? And I think when you say that, and what I find very interesting about this thought process, is let's say we get two responses, does nothing.

So once again, I'm going to tell people to pause, take the time, and text it. Wayne's laughing at me, but I'm dead serious right now. Because when we all aligned, and I didn't, you know, I don't know if we knew it, but we did know it when it happened. I talk about this lots. When the Freedom Convoy started going, I didn't know what it was.

Then you saw the first, like, three videos, and I was like, that is it. I showed up to my second protest ever, and I saw people there in Lloyd at the gas station, you know, where they were leaving from. You were kind of nervous to go, but then you saw everybody, and you're kind of like, yeah, this is right. Like, I get this. And more people started to get it. And what happened?

We all identified what had to change. And now they'll try and muddle it into 18,000 different issues of COVID. but the lockdowns, the freedom of choice, everything like that became the central issue. Everybody showed up in Ottawa for it. So if we can identify Wayne, what people think is one or two, all of a sudden you're like, well, that community and more because there's a ton of people that were like, yeah, yeah. It never showed up to Ottawa because they had jobs and work and everything else, which completely understandable and some took time off and some got fired and some you know but if you can identify that

right now and we go out and solve it in the next month wouldn't everybody feel better wouldn't it wouldn't it be like oh yeah and the here's the thing here's what covid did is it gave us the framework you know here in lloyd we we talk about canyans for truth and some people like where has it been well it's coming back and all it is is a concerned citizen group what morley and shainer doing in waynard it is the same thing, and there's people in all these different communities doing the same thing. And if we could identify the one thing and then an hour and a half of 200 people sit in a room with a couple of speakers can get to, I think this would work and go try it, wouldn't this be the greatest experiment of all time to actually get to the bottom of things? Some days, Wayne, I'm like, where are we doing? Maybe this won't work and nobody will text me.

And then I'm going to scold people the next time because I really hope people just blow the phone up, blow it up with your five things. well don't make don't make it you know stuck to the to this program let's let's let's schedule something uh you know with with a couple of others perhaps even a month out and let's all put it to our let's let's take four people four of us and and do this put this out to our communities what is your top five and then come back and rehash it out because here's what I'm hoping comes out of this you know in the old days and I'm I'm still pretty old school. I might be busy building my fence and building a chicken cube, but the neighbor comes by and says, all the neighbors are getting together to build the barn over here,

and we'll have that done in a day, and then we'll come over and we'll build your barn. If we could do that with the problems that we've got, man, we could start toppling them things over like dominoes, right? So this is, you know, in my hope that we can find some of these things in order to to create this you know a project i i guess based not unity i i'm not a big fan of this unified word because typically uh words have meaning and power and when someone tells me you've got to unify with us my brain is hearing so you want me to put my chicken coop on the back burner and go and and race your horse for you um you know if it's if this isn't a community relationship that we all get our problems solved. I'm not interested. If you're not

interested in helping me, you only want me to help you. That's not really the way community works, right? And so that's what I'm hoping that we can kind of, and that is, that is our core Canadian identity. That is how Canada became such an amazing nation because it wasn't because we had unlimited manpower. It wasn't because we had, you know, the greatest weather and working conditions, you know, in Canada. I mean, we built Canada in a place where it hurts to breathe nine months of the year. That doesn't come easy, right? But we're so fractured in our resources and in our discussions that I'd like to see, you know, maybe this can bring us back into, not to dismiss or to be you know to deprioritize anybody in what they're doing i can be way more help

to those people if we can help you know i and ultimately and this is something that um i i has had some time to drive and i had the opportunity to uh have dinner last night with a mutual friend danny hosek and his wife i stopped it up the farm and had a wonderful dinner and i left there thinking and I think to me what I see is the number one thing that we could do is unbind Canada from all of these non-binding agreements. What would that look like? Because all of these non-binding agreements, if they're non-binding, let's get rid of them. Let's get rid of everything that they've implemented since then.

And you know what? We rewind Canada back to a point where we can manage it like that. Well, I tell what, I'm going to put this out on, I'm going to put this out on social media. I'm going to put the question on. What is your top five? What are the top five things you think are the most pressing to your community or your life or whatever? And see what comes back. I'd be very curious for what comes back because, you know, I personally, I don't even want to give my top five.

I want to sit and actually think about this. And then I'm going to write it out before I get influenced by Wayne or anyone else. because I'm like, I wonder what my top five are. I've never actually thought about it. I've always been running from problem the problem. That's the way this gets pulled on it. You know, Sean, you got to talk about this. Sean, you got to talk about that.

Sean, you got to talk about this. And I don't, I don't want to say it that way that you think you're doing anything wrong. You're not. Like, I think there's certain things you need to know about. But at the same token, you know, if we could have a little bit of focus, I mean, what did that look like? I don't know. When I was a new firefighter, that was my job.

I ran around putting a little fire, little fire, little fire. I'm no longer the junior firefighter. Now I'm the captain. And when you have limited resources, limited manpower, limited water, the methodology that you used to put that fire out is very, very, very different. Well, Wayne, man, I, so, you know, I'm a, I think I'm, I think, what is Bob say it's like a romantic you know i i chuckled because i had a uh i called wayne out of the blue said hey would you come on tomorrow i was supposed to have a guest for monday they backed out

last minute not a big deal but uh you know like i mean wayne had had a chat after the smp presents and um certainly you know i was like i'll fall up with wayne i had somebody text me say you should have wane on again i'm like yeah i should and uh you know so it just kind of stumbles and then i walk in here thinking about like three things i have i have to say i have i i i have been on again i'm written right beside me that I'm going to talk about. And instead I get a text and it just leads us down this path of like, where are we right now? And yet I sit here and I go, and isn't that the beauty? And I don't know if any of this works.

Maybe in three months, me and you will both be saying, well, that didn't actually work. But to have a spontaneous idea such as this, I wonder where it leads. And either way, man, I appreciate you coming on and, you know, playing around with my thought process and letting this go wherever it was going to go, you know? Like, welcome to the madness I've been saying lately because I'm sorry folks. Some days I got a plan. In other days, I just hold on for the ride. I completely understand that holding on for the ride. That's basically what my life has been since I had my moment of surrender.

And it's been ultimately, once the fear leaves, it has become the most incredible time. of my life i have had the the blessings of meeting the best canada has to offer from coast to coast we are everywhere um i a my life is so polar opposite from anything i ever would have imagined if anybody would have told me that in 2023 Wayne could drive anywhere in the country and people would put him up eagerly and talk his face off all night i would have laughed and laughed and laughed. But here we are, right? And I think that my belief system says that God wins, and the sooner we start doing more of the things we should be doing in God's eyes and less of the things we shouldn't be doing, the sooner we get to God winning. Well, here, let me ask you one final question. I should

throw in the crude master final question. I've already done it with you on the other so I'm going to give a new one here. I guess is what I'm trying to get at. And it's who have you, because I mean, you got a longstanding show. What's Up Canada? What's one interview you've done in the last six months that the listeners either should go listen to or you think they should pay attention to what the guest is doing? Is there a name that pops to mind? Oh, you know. I hate to narrow it on you like that. but we can even shorten the time frame to three months if you want.

I'm curious. Really, it's every one because I take a slightly different format. Most people may not know this about me. I don't do a regular scheduled show because I don't want to be caught in that trap of having to have a guest, right? So for me, I do a show when I have something that needs to be heard, this person's story, whatever it is, that is the priority for me. So then I set up a show. So I don't have this processed schedule of doing shows.

And there was something that I made a conscious shift to a couple of years ago because I found myself, I don't want to say getting lazy, but it got easy to get into that routine and habit. And had I been in that routine and habit, I probably, may not have been as so motivated to track down the Byron bridles, the peoples, because it was, I wasn't looking for them just to have a guest. I'm looking for the people that impact me the most and trying to share that. So there's a lot of them. I did, though, in the flavor of where we were supposed to go and start with this,

I had pulled up and I shared a link with you in the private chat here, is where I learned, about fifth gen warfare actual so then what I'll do is I'll take that link and I'll put it in the show notes for the people I'm copying that right now so that people can see it as well if they want to it's sitting in the show notes a moment of context of that this man first brought the not just the words fifth gen warfare but he brought the context and he brought the actual understanding of the actual fifth generation warfare that is being waged upon us for a while now. This man was Trump's former national security advisor until the Obama regime removed him. But he has since passed.

I don't believe it was of natural origin. I believe that there's extenuating factors in there, but I don't have any evidence of that. young healthy men like rich don't just think bad things just don't happen but anyways moot point i believe personally he was taken out for his information and knowledge uh but this was was where um i got my first taste of what real world fifth generation warfare is and that interview although it's a little bit older um that was the one that changed my definition and understanding of what warfare is is and that i think is a paramount point for people we think of warfare as storming the beaches of normandy uh you know maybe vietnam uh those kinds of things warfare has evolved and we have been

in the middle of world war three for some time now but we could not accurately define it rich does you know it's um okay so there's something i'd talk to you about on the weekend so i'm gonna i'm to make sure I go take a watch because I've been fascinated by your thought process. You're a book lover. Get his book. Well, yes. I was going to say, you know, the thing that struck me is you don't do a regular show because when you release it, you obviously, if Wayne's releasing something, it's very, very, very important. And it's interesting. I've had similar thoughts at times on this side, but I've adopted, and it's, I don't know if Casey Nystatt was the first guy. It was just the first guy for

me that saw his thought process and went, yeah, like, I really resonate with that. And what it was was he did a short video on YouTube, didn't matter how long or how short. He ended up going on to, like, I don't know what he's done now, but at the time, the pinnacle of a was a Nike commercial where they gave him a budget. And instead of doing what they said, him and a buddy went and blew it all and filmed it and went across the world. And anyways, that became like this huge cult hit commercial. his idea was I'm going to do a video every single day for 365 days and the thought process was sure some of them were going to be absolute crap but if I think I can have a hit video once every three weeks if I do it every single day now you know that short you know if it was one in one and seven well now instead of having one every whatever that is 21 weeks now I get how many I get you know one a week and it'll push me up and up and up and up. And that's the thought process I've had. And a little bit of consistency in my life has meant the world just to, I don't know if it's grounding or what it is, but it's been really

important to me. And I don't know, but at the same time, I completely get your thought process because it's like, Sean went from doing one a week. How easy is it to keep up on one a week? Really easy, I think. It's really easy. If you do even less than that, and you go, just listen when I put it out because it's important. Then you know in your head if Wayne ever releases it and you're honest with your list, this is how it's going to go? They know what it'll listen when you drop. And I can understand some people when they talk to me like, how can I possibly keep up?

You're doing like anywhere between four or five a week. And my thought process is different than Wayne's. My thought process is I want to get to the best of my ability and stumble on more things that I had no idea we're sitting there. And when I stumble on it, then we're going to talk about it. and we're going to try and narrow in. That was COVID. I mean,

I've been thinking about it and took some jump in. That has been religion or faith or whatever because it's like it keeps popping up. I'm like, does a guy steer into this or not? Anyways, that's my thought process. But really, Sean,

that's kind of ultimately what drove me to make that decision because I found that for, I don't do two minute videos or five minute videos. I do deep context stuff. And as the level of my, quality of my work went up, I found there just wasn't enough of me. So if I wanted to do the quality of work that I expect of myself and to do that five days a week, I need a team. And that just isn't possible. There is so much research and development that goes into it to all of this stuff

that I had to consciously make a decision. Do I want to be a breaking journalist or do I want to be a talking figurehead and if i'm going to do that well then there's the if i want to live up to the expectation that i demand of myself then i then i need people because there's just no way to provide the context of such deep uh reporting without having help to do that when you're doing everything else yourself too right like we're we're one man shows uh most people have a hard time juggling a two or three social media platforms i can't speak for you but i probably juggle about 30 and i don't know how many websites and other things do right so it's just a it's it's a it's a practicality and a and a pragmatism so to me it was where do i lose the least in what i'm doing um it didn't suit me to

be owned by a clock i don't have the the grounding or the need for the grounding that that you do i don't have the family i don't have those kinds of things so for me that was the the the not progression and and people have figured that out when Wayne's doing something they go out of the way to find tough to find it and and honestly that has saved me because of the censorship um it's if if you're there every day it's easy to be forgotten in the censorship uh they just you just get lost right so i get censored less and people um tend to go and look to see if Wayne has done something new because If they don't want to. Well, let's get to that.

If people want to find Wayne, where do they go? That's kind of one of the other things. I've kind of spread out. What's up Canada.org is my ground zero for most everything that I do for my own platform. But I work on other platforms that are much bigger and bigger reach. You'll find some of that stuff on LGM. dot news where you'll find Sean stuff as well. And I'm a weekly contributor to an American outlet called Wendy Bell Network.

And that, that's a special story. Do you care to share or do you want me? Oh, I thought we were getting ready to get out of here. Well, we are. But then you say, well, that's a special story. And I'm like, well, now you suck me back in for a few minutes there, Wayne. Wendy Bell Radio Network based at a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Wendy herself has 21 Emmy Awards and dozens and dozens of journalistic awards.

She told them all to go pound sand a number of years ago. And I went and launched her own platforms two years ago. And she is going to be literally replacing talk show morning radio across the continent very shortly. I can't elaborate on the special things behind that are going on there specifics. but we are incredibly fortunate to have her as a cornerstone platform on our looking glass media platform because people like Trump, Wendy Bell, is her daily news. Trump looks at Wendy Bell. That's what you're saying?

Did I catch it right? Correct. Correct. So every Monday, he's seeing reports from Canada. That's kind of special to us. That has created a thirst and for knowledge and truth out of Canada that I cannot keep up. with people down there are realizing they've been duped by Mr. Lord Farquat up here too, and they don't like that so much.

They really don't like their backyard and what's going on up here. Ah, a Shrek reference. I love it. Well, but the shoes fit, right? But yeah, we've got very powerful people in the media down there that are not okay with what's going on up here in Canada, and they're stepping out of their box. help.

So kind of special. Lord, Lord for a quad. I tell you what, that'll be the way to end a podcast. Wayne, I appreciate it and look forward to when we certainly cross past again. And if you're ever this close to me, you mentioned Danny Hozax. You make sure to shoot me a text because I'd love to go for a coffee with you or what have you. Or just have you in studio. We could have done this, you know, face to face.

That would have been excellent. But either way, look forward to see. I thought about it, but I'm already four days overdue for getting home because I call people. Fair. That's fair. Totally fair. Next time I'm yours. Sounds good.

All right, Wayne. Thanks for hopping on and doing this, you know, on short notice and everything else. And we'll see what comes of people's texts and everything else. I really, I'm going to put that out to a couple of other people that are highly active. And, yeah, I cannot wait to compare some notes on this. and we'll set something up to do it to have a chat about it. Thanks, Wayne. Fantastic.

Thanks, Sean.