Shaun Newman Podcast - #420 - Brother's Roundtable

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

The Brothers are back at it for week 2 of the NHL Playoffs. All things first round - Makar's hit, Oilers powerplay, Florida has no business against Boston & whether the Leafs can close it out. Recorded April 27, 2023. Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Let me know what you thinkText me 587-217-8500

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Welcome with the podcast, folks. Brothers Roundtable, second week of playoffs. And no Jay yet again, because he seems to be on perpetual holidays, you know. Never sweats when he's probably celebrating in Kelowna. Did they win? Yeah, I think they won. Yeah, they won four two in the finals. I was talking to Marty about it.

I don't know why I thought about that. No, they won. Giro Grande missing in action. That's right. That's right. Yeah, 0 for 2 to start the playoffs on the brothers roundtable. So welcome back, boys. What the heck are we talking about? Breakfast?

Yeah, we're talking about breakfast. A&W wasn't bad. I can't remember if the guys at work enjoy the, I can't remember if it's Wendy's or Dairy Queen, one of them, right beside each other. Dairy Queen has breakfast? It's one of those two. Ice cream for breakfast? It's one of those two.

Blizzard for breakfast? I can do that. Have you ever had Dairy Queen breakfast? There's no way, Dairy Queen. I don't know. I don't remember which it is. Mint Oreo blizzard for breakfast. I could do that. Is that your go-to? Mint Oreo? Yes. I just don't eat breakfast. Delicious. Except for Sundays. Sunday's a... Anything mint. I'm like my daughter. I can eat anything mint and it tastes good. I'm a cookie go. A cookie dough guy. You know? You're kind of soft.

Like the Pillsbury dough boy. Oh, we're going to start this. Who's a good team all over again, eh? Argument. Okay, fine. Fine. Okay. Let's get to it. I don't want to... you know, beat around the bush. Plus, you know, we're releasing this on a Thursday where the Leafs play at five. And, I mean, by the time people get into this, they might, you know, they might already be the next morning, that type of thing. So how about we start with the Toronto Maple Leafs, okay? I know I'm going to bring about all the way back to the Oilers, but the Oilers play Saturday. So we got a couple days on them, so we'll get to them towards the end.

When it comes to the Toronto Maple Leafs, they get a comeback win. now they're, you know, they are a game away from moving on. They're up three games to one. Are you going, Leifes are moving on tonight? I picked them to win the series. Will they move on tonight? That's a little bit tougher of a question. I think so.

Leaves are the better team at this point, and Tampa Bay is not what they used to be. So I think the Leafs are won in the series. Will it happen tonight? Yeah, that's tougher to predict, but I think they will move on. I agree. It's hard to say whether tonight is in Tampa, I believe, right? It's in Toronto.

In Toronto. It's in Toronto. Game five, yeah. They better hope that they win tonight because then you go back to Tampa. This is what I was saying. And in game seven, you never know what happens, right? But I still think either way, I think whether it's tonight or game six, I still think Toronto is going to move on.

The thing about Toronto is this is, if you remember what happened, the last few playoff years they've had a really good team for a while like a really good team but they played in the best division and tampa bay and boston have been very good for a long time and toronto was really good the problem is they kept running into tampa bay and boston and at the moment they're better than tama and they kept choking come on no no they kept choking but yes but it's not like they were lining up against i don't know the new york islanders in round one shan you're facing tapa bay who won the cup two years and yeah fair fair anybody anybody know the last time that Toronto moved on past the first round?

Well, I heard it was when Austin Matthews was six. 2004. Sandine? 2004. He would have been on a Toronto Maple Leafs, 2000. Yeah. That's a long stretch. Yes.

You know, we were having this big discussion the other day, Sean, and I'm going to bring it up because you were saying that if you lose in the first round in five games, that you're a good team. And then Jason said that you're a good team if you make the playoffs. You're a great team if you make it past the first round. Wait, wait, wait, wait. before you get all into that. That year, Sundeen, McCabe, Newendike, Roberts, Owen, Nolan, Darcy Tucker. Was Wendell Clark on that team?

Wendell Clark? No, I'm thinking. No, I'm thinking Doug Gell more. Way back. Like, it shows on here, I don't know if these guys played any power play time, but Ron Francis, Brian Leach, it looks like they may have been Ed Belfour, right? Where those guys later... Belfore might have been in.

Oh, they're Hall of Famers, yeah, actually. It looks like... Anyways, that's the last time. That's when they face Ottawa. Wasn't it, 2004? I think those, back then. Yes.

Well, Sandine, yeah. Ty Domi. Ty Domi. Yeah, sure. We can have the good, sure. I just want to add on to the... Try and keep the F-bombs to a minimum,

both of us. So, that's the... So, Jason said again, a good... Paint a picture for the audience, for sitting in cheers, and me and Dust are just labeling each other, throwing verbal haymakers at each other across the table.

So I was all the cheers didn't come over. I should have seen. I should have shown. He was so disgusted. He was so mad. I think both. I don't think Dustin tries paint me the picture. I was trying to go, guys, guys.

There was no settle on that one down. Anyways, yes. So I will add to this is that 16 of the 32 teams make the playoffs, meaning that if you make the playoffs, you're not necessarily a good team. What you are is you're an average team. Really? If you lose out in five games in the first round,

you're an average team. You're not a good team. That's how I put it. Yeah. If you lose in seven games in the first round, you can go, yeah, we're a good team, but we played a really a great team. And what we're arguing about is, well, I don't know, we're arguing about a boltload of things. If you don't win the Stanley Cup, you're retooling. And even if you do win the Stanley Cup, chances are you're retooling.

But what happens when you go undergo injuries like Tampa Bay? So are you saying they're just an average team then? Because if they lose in five? Well, no, because he, well, yeah, I mean. Well, in Tampa Bay has something. You can make a case with Tampa Bay that their best defensemen is not 100% at the same time.

Turnact still isn't going to be playing either. Sure. If you look at that team as a whole, though, when you look at their window, they've got to do some retooling at this point because I think they're on the back end of their window and it's going to be tough for them to win the cup, which means you've got to start making some changes to make it.

And I brought up the Pittsburgh Penguins because I thought they were retooling and then they went on to win the cup the last time. And I was like, I don't know if anyone predicted it that year. They were retooling, though. They did a lot. I just, to me, and I look at the playoffs a whole lot different. I go, if you can make it, Winnipeg Jets is a prime example.

Now, tonight, they might be done in five, and you might go, they weren't a good team. And I look at it different. They got into the playoffs, and I went, I think they can win the first round. And if you win the first round, I think all bets are off, because you start the, you start rolling along and away you go. Well, anything can happen in the playoffs. Like Seattle Cracken right now, what a game last night. Again, they completely dominated the Colorado Avalanche. Now, the avalanche missed this guy named Kail McCarr.

Without him, they looked average. McKinnon can't do any. I thought their defense was, I thought their defense was better. It gets Scottiagia. You dropped. Gaila Oakhine. Anyways. I thought the rest of the Colorado defense was better than what they are.

Yeah, but it comes back to Oilers. If they lose Echholm, are they going to look pretty average? Yeah. They are. Colorado's defense is great. McCar is the best defenseman in the NHL right now. You lose that. Everybody's rolls gets kind of jumbled.

Their power play doesn't move as slick. McKinnon looks as good a hockey player he is. All the pressure is now, folks, you just highlight him all game long. Okay, so here's the problem with Colorado this year. They're not as deep. They're just not as deep as they were last year. I think that's pretty easy to point out. Sure, but if you knock Kail McCar off their team last year,

who he led their entire team and points in the playoffs, are they the same team? No. So I go back to the- No, no, they're not the same team, but they're probably a better team than they were in-year. They probably fair last night a little better than last. In saying that. But they got Lannisgaard who's out to. If you take a different perspective.

They're not as deep this year because they're missing Landeskog, they're missing Cadry. You know, you're missing a couple key guys. And then if you lose McCarters' group. At the outset of the playoffs, I would not have picked Seattle, possibly going to game seven,

possibly even winning against Colorado, over Toronto and Tampa Bay being done in five. I would have picked the opposite of that happening, right? And yet here we sit, right? So to me, I don't know if I look at a team out and five and go, well, they're a terrible team, right? Like, or an average team.

Like, some of it is just a little bit of luck. Some, you know, like Sean says, you just got to get in and see, see how the games go, right? Yeah, I have, I have your, you have, once you make the playoffs, you have your powerhouses, you're like, these teams should go far. That's why we do the predictions of the top four and everything else. On a completely different note, I mean, is anybody expecting Emmington to run at 57.1% on their power play? I don't know. Is that such a far?

Like, I mean, don't get around it. No, I agree. That's insane. I agree. But at the same time, too, if you take that oath, right? I mean, how puckered are the L.A. Kings in their penalty killer right now? They're the, they're the Wainwright-Polar kings of senior hockey right now. That your Wainwright should have. I know, but we didn't, we didn't have McDavid and dry-siddle.

I mean, and it just goes on and on and on. Like, I mean, holy, holy dinah. The Oilers power play, I mean, even when they get unlucky, it goes in the net. It goes off of Hyman's face. in the net, Hyman doesn't have a broken jar some crazy thing. They throw the second unit out, they score. They score. Right? It just seems everything on their power play seems to be rolling along and here's something for the listener and we're bouncing all

over the place. Game one, they're one for three. Okay, after that, one for one, two for four, two for three, two for three. It's like you don't want to go to the box and you think LA is getting in this penalty trouble. It's like, I don't know. So I was at the game, I was at game five and the amount, every time McDavid touches the puck, you could call penalty on the other team. You really could. Like he moves so fast and it's like they just let it go because

he's that good. But they've got their sticks in his hands and they're hooking him to slow him down. Like it's it's nonstop when he has the puck. Even when he doesn't have the puck they're slowing him down. Like they're all over him. You could call 10 penalties a game against the players that are trying to defend it. Pretty sure the last time I

looked and this was probably 10 games to go or so in the regular season. But McDavid was third in having penalties. he's called against him and you go there's no way he should be third and drawn penalties he should he should be drawing two or three a game easy yeah easy well but he's so good yeah well i mean he's he's connor mac david and what that you don't get on the tv what you're talking about is you don't see all of the little games within the game uh going on and it's what we love about playoffs is some of the rule book goes away it's just at times you go uh you just let it all go then or you know like

it's so if you called three or four penalties you're just you called three or four penalties these just against players defending McDavid a game, they win the Stanley Cup because their power plays that good. Yeah, it was. It's, it's, it's silliness right now. Yes. Once again, I'm going to drop back. Tonight, you got Leafs, Leif's Lightning, game five, a chance for Toronto to close it out on home ice, and Vegas, game five against the jets on home ice. To me, this is, this is, the best case scenario, if I was sitting in Tampa's shoes, and I know this will sound a little bit backwards, but if I'm down three games to one. I want it on the opposing team's ice. Now if you're the home team and you're up, you close it out here. Close it out tonight. It's all done and you get a victory party on home ice

and Lottie Daug. You lose, you've got to travel all the way back to the opposing teams. Tampa Bay. And Winnipeg, if you're the, if you're Vegas. And if I'm the team down three, won that's what I want. For some reason, I think that Tampa Bay is going to win tonight, just to like put the fear God. Toronto almost, they haven't won a series in so long and this group of guys hasn't won a series, that I wonder if they actually don't need them, you know, scared, you know, we can't go into game seven. So I wonder if Tampa Bay doesn't. You don't think that that conversation is being had today? Oh, no, guaranteed it is. You'll have the conversation. There's a difference between having the conversation and actually

having to go through it though. As much as you want to talk about it, you don't know what you're So you're saying Tampa's going to win. I think Tampa might win. Sean, what are you saying? I think Toronto and Vegas close out tonight. That's my That's my thoughts. I think Toronto's over the hump tonight. I'm going to say Vegas closes out tonight, but we go to game six. Oh, man. And you just watch the world go off if that happens.

How about Rangers Devils? I thought after the first two games, I don't know how much you guys paid attention. Like, I've been watching way too much hockey, which has been awesome. First round is the best. But the Rangers in game one and two, I'm like, oh boy, this is going to be over in four quick, maybe five games max. And then Jersey comes out and all of a sudden it's a two-two series and you're like, what is, did we? I don't remember who I was having the conversation with though, but those first two games that the Rangers won, like you just stop Crider on the doorstep on the power play. and like how many goals did he have on the power play three in the first two games right like all of a sudden those games are a lot different games if you just stop crider from getting the easy deflection off the side of the net right and well and i got to say if you're rangers you really got to stop harley's doppelganger that's what you really got to do dougie hamilton

Dougie Hamilton The Ginger I will say this is that Jersey's a really good team and it's not surprising to me that it's 2-2 at this point but they're young and I think the Rangers are going to win

just because Jersey hasn't been in the playoffs for a while and they've got a bunch of young kids who are good but I don't think they get past in the end. Now do I think the Rangers are going that far? No, I don't. I don't think they're that good of a team they've got a bunch of older stars

that I don't think happen anymore, but I think they get back past. I'll be interested in watching this game, I think, out of any of them, because I did pick Jersey to win this series. So it's be an interesting game. All right. Well, with all that being said, let's go back to last night. You had the Florida victory in overtime, and then you had Cracken beating Colorado.

Now we've kind of talked about Cracken. I think that's been by far the best series of the opening round. Like it's been, it has been wild. And at one point, I think the Crackham were out shooting Colorado like 17-8. It wasn't even remotely close. And it was just a couple little mistakes by the Cracken. And all of a sudden, Colorado had a little bit of life. But like.

With a couple game breakers on their side, which you don't have on the Seattle side. Well, and especially with Jared McCann going out on the hit, right? That was their leading goal scorer. And now they don't even have them. But you watch Seattle's work ethic. They just remind me of the Vegas Golden Knights from the first year they went all the way to the Stanley Cup files. I don't think they're going to do that because they literally had like 50 bloody chances last night to make it like 8-2. And they got no like, you know, even Jordan Everleigh walking down straight down the hallway.

Just like he's got nothing but net. He still can't score. And saying that also got a game winner for the second night in a row. So what do I know? At the end of the day, that's been a fun series. Oilers traded him, though, because he couldn't score on the playoffs. Well, Oilers traded a lot of guys. I mean, Taylor Hall last night looked like a beast.

He is a beast. At the end of the day, I picked Florida in her first one. Did you? Yeah, I did. And watching last night's game, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I tell you what, I'm going to lose the first round playoff bet just for that. Like, they had no business. Now, in fairness, they get to go home and try and force a game set.

So if I was sitting there as the Florida Panthers or whoever, this is why I want to go play the big game five where you should close out the series. If I'm down 3-1, I want to play it in the opposing building because if we win, we get to go home. And Florida should force game seven. In saying that, they had no business winning game five. Boston outplayed them the entire game. The winning goal was a shit goal. Shit goal. You see Paul Maurice applauding Kachak, because most players just jam it back.

Ellie's such a superstar and I'm just like, man, that's a tough one for Boston to suck up. Bergeron back in, though, look good. Their entire team, you understand why they broke a record this year. Like, they look good. They're deep. They made Florida look just slow as all get up.

I was a little surprised with how out to lunch Olmark was on a couple of those goals, though, for how good of a team they are and how good of a goalie he is. He was flat on his back twice there last night. So got lucky with the, one stop that he did make, but they scored on the other one, right? But I was a little surprised with Allmark.

Can Florida push it to game seven or Boston close it out? I think Boston's going to close it out. I agree. Cachuck messing with the goalie off Boston, Allmark. Like if you're down and you know you're not going to win the series because the other team's better, is that something you do? Like, he did that on purpose, obviously, to mess with Allmark. Like, is that what you're doing, trying to get in the other goalie's head just to try and find

any way to per line it. Trying to find an angle. I guess. Trying to find an angle. I mean. Because Boston's a better team. They should win this. Boston should.

After watching last night, I was like, I don't know why I picked Florida, right? Like I actually don't know how they're in as close to the series as they are. Boston, it looked that good. And actually it made me nervous if Toronto, I said if Toronto gets through, they got nothing to worry about Boston. And that's a lie. Because like the game is deep. They're a good hockey team.

You look at their bottom lines and who they got playing on their, like, It's ridiculous. They got guys playing on their second and third lines. Who's playing on their third line? Dust. I don't know, Harles. You tell me. Taylor Hall.

How many points do you have in the playoffs? Five goals so far. Hmm. Seems like he's a decent hockey player. Playing on an average team, maybe. You know, once upon a time, Evander Kane was treated similarly, and he was a rock star,

and now he's fit nicely into the Oilers lineup, so. I don't even know if I got a comment at this point because Taylor Hall was a good point-getter for the Oilers when they traded them. Let's talk about the West. Let's talk about the Oilers and Kings. Can we just talk about Yamamoto for a second here? He actually played better in Game 5. He played better at us.

But I mean... So what do you want to do? I don't know. I honestly, I don't know. Anyone can point out a problem, Sean, but you've got a solution to the problem. I don't understand why. Okay. So why in the third period?

of the game they come back and win in overtime why a guy like coston doesn't play a shift and yammo's out there every third shift for sure he's penalty killing he's doing all these different things what they did in game five with them though yammo they they bumped them down the lineup they threw a line together that was him nuge and uh bukstad and bukestad no no not yammo it was uh hyman nuge and bukestad was the second line and they bumped yammo down and yammo actually had a decent game. He wasn't awful. He was fine. Which one?

The last game five. I think that, yeah, I think what they did there then is put Yamel with a rotation of dry saddle or McDavid and then kept the other winger on. Anyhow, they didn't have them playing second line. Nuge played a better game and Bukesab played well with Hyman and Nuge. They had a solid game. And they actually ran through their lines a lot better. They didn't shorten the bench.

Costum played a lot more, and he played well for what he does. Like, he was banging and Crane Narauccas, which is what you want. So I thought he played well. That was his best game thus far in this series. Costans? No. Yeah, I'm Mottos. Oh, yeah, I'm Mottos.

Which isn't saying much because he hasn't done much either. He just, he seemed, I'm stuck on game four. I was stuck in the vehicle listening to Game 5. So maybe my harshness on him, I didn't get to witness because I wasn't watching. Like I said, he played down the line up in the game five. The thing is with any of that, you need them to be going. You need them to be playing.

So they got to keep them in the lineup. They got to keep them going here. And hopefully you get through this round and maybe you're playing a different team. And maybe it's just the team right now that is exposing him. And maybe he doesn't like playing against Kings, right? Maybe they're whatever, too physical for him or whatever. They're mean to him. I will say that one of the three goals that the King scored, Yama was the guy back.

Now, where was C.C.? because Nurse went to the guy at the puck and Yamma standing in front of the net and Kempe walked him and roofed it. That was Yammo standing there and he didn't do anything. Kempi's a nice player. He is a nice player. And I don't know where Cece was on that play because why is Yammo standing in front of the net? There's no reason for that.

Yam was not big enough strong. They play a lot of man-on-man though too. So some of that is maybe Cici's guy gets drawn up to the point and so Cici goes up and there should be some sort of communication there. It was a broken breakout is what it was or something like that. Anyhow, it doesn't matter. Yamel was in front of the net and he got walked by Campay, which is going to happen every time if you have Yammo in front of your net.

Oilers take care of business Saturday in L.A. Is it over? I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I think so. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes, too.

Well, I tell you what, since their game four comeback, Kane, Heimann, both scoring, now, Bugstad scoring, Kulak's scoring. Kulak's looking. Kulak's look, I don't think anybody can argue. He's looked like one of their best defensemen. Actually, the one guy that gets lost in all of it, actually, which is surprising, is Ekholm. I thought I would notice him a lot more out there. And, I mean, it's probably a good thing you don't notice him because he's just eaten minutes, right?

but I thought he would stand out a lot more where you would notice him, right? If you focus on Ekom when he's on the ice, he does so many little things where he just knocks the puck off, breaks up a play, he's not flashy, he just gets in the way all the time. And something else on game five is Dejernay came back in the lineup,

played more than Roberg did, which surprised me, but he was actually solid. Didn't try and do too much, played it simple. He's long enough, he's big enough, as long as he doesn't, you know,

overextend himself, he's good. Well, so I would say, say going with Ekholm for a second, he's a strong man. Yes. It's one of, he, like, nurse at times looks weak. He's a good skater and everything, but he, I don't know, I don't know what it is. He's gangly. Gangly.

And he just doesn't, like, when Ekholm bumps into people, they stop. And Oilers don't know, I don't know if they have another defenseman like that. No. Maybe Desirene. Yeah, Desirene is a little bit different. Echon's just a block. A block. Yeah.

And you notice that. And the smart little play. plays that he does. He never seems to get into trouble for the most part. I was going to say that if the Oilers continue to get one of the trends that if it continues into game six, it's over and that is depth scoring.

Because McDavid and Dryside are going to get you something. Their power play is going to get you another at least. And if they chip in with a couple goals from their depth scoring, it's over. It's just, you can't contain it. Well, you were talking about YAML, if you ever wanted to pull

them out of the lineup, you either put in Devin Shore or who's the young kid, the rookie? Holloway. Holloway. Those are the two you're going in with. Those are your two options at this point. All I know is when he's getting bullied around dust. You know, like he's not skating back on the back check

and letting the guy get the rebound tap in top shelf in game four, I think it is. He's at times looks like he's not involved at all. You're like, somebody get a cattle prod out and tell him it's the playoffs and get moving and get in there. And like, well, and quite honestly, in game four, Nuge was a problem too. Yes, he lost every battle. But in fairness, what was I saying up until that point? What is Hyman doing? What is it?

Kane doing? And they've all started scoring. So maybe it'll trickle in and they just needed a little bit of confidence. Everybody has a bad game. I tell you what, in Game 4, Desirene had a bad game. Yamel had a bad game. True. I say they were just game six.

Their worst game they actually won. Has anybody been paying attention to the Stars while? I did watch. I watched some of one game. Yeah, I've been paying attention to some of the. for sure. I mean, obviously, I think the stars to work.

Yeah, yeah. Ottinger in net has been doing this thing. I was actually surprised they pulled Flurry and didn't start him last game for Minnesota, so kind of caught me off guard over it. It's a weird thing to rotate goalies in the playoffs. I know, I hear some NHL analysts talking about, oh, they did it for the last 18 games of the season.

That's what they should. It's like, yeah, but it's the playoffs. You just don't do it. Is Bunting's not playing in game five tonight? No, he thinks that's a good, uh, which actually I think it is. I think it is. You've got somebody that. An interesting call.

He rides that line pretty, pretty fine. And they won the last game without him, right? And I think you're only adding controversy. Toronto doesn't need the controversy to come in. That's what's going to get guys like Perry and Maroon fired up because, they're trying to go after them and it's going to you don't need that for Toronto. If you're trying to just be, leave the bear alone, right? As dad would say, just leave them alone, don't wake them.

And you just go in there, you play your game and you try and get the win. You put your best line up on the ice. Does Toronto wish he was available? Sure. Because he's a good player and he's better than what they have. No, he can. He can be. He can play.

He can play and game. And they're not dressing. They're not dressing them. Well, I didn't realize that. I thought he was still out. No. I would have played him. It's interesting.

You talk about staying away from controversy. If you're trying to keep Perry, if you think Maroon and Perry, that's your reasoning. Okay, maybe. But if Toronto doesn't win tonight, he's automatically in and the controversial will be on why they didn't put him in because he's, anyways. Toronto can't escape controversy unless they win 16 straight. Unless they win 16 straight. They're always going to have. Well, there's controversy in every team to a certain extent.

because there's always decisions to be made. Not the same as Toronto, though. No, because Toronto's the biggest hockey market in the world. I think, yeah, Toronto's the biggest hockey market. You're going to have controversy no matter what you do. If they don't have controversy, they're going to invent some controversy to talk about it because that's what they do. They do it in Emmington just to a smaller scale because we're a smaller market.

But in Toronto, everyone talks about it because it's Toronto. Leaves fans. You all think the world revolves around you. Sure. Yeah. We all picked to Avalanche to win the first round. Yes. Are we second guessing that?

I still got them, so I'm going to go with that horse until it's dead. But do I think Seattle can win? Sure, there are three games to two. Going home, three games to two. MacArthur's check back in. The thing about it is what Colorado is this. And McCammerich. They are the Stanley Cup champs,

and they'll continue to be the Stanley Cup champs until they lose. And you have to beat the champs. If our oldest brother was sitting here right now, he would say they're not, until they actually are out. True. Right? So,

especially being the same. I hate to agree with Jay on something. McCar. Jay's not even here. McCar better come in and have the game of his life. I'm sure he will. That was a dumb penalty. Like when you watched the replay of him.

I still don't know what he was thinking. It was really cheap. It was five seconds after he shot the puck. I count it out. In real time, it's about three. But you get the point. Like,

it's late. The puck's gone. He shot from, in between the hashes in front of the net and he got to the corner and got hit and got hit that's a long time

it's a long time it's a dirty play without a doubt I'm surprised actually that it's only one game because that's how bad it was how late it was and with McCann being out Seattle's top scorer yeah if that was

I wouldn't be happy if I was Seattle's GM and coach that's for damn sure 100% yeah we'll see if he check back in here in the next day or so. What does he got anyhow? Concussion? Actually, I was looking it up.

I don't know. They wouldn't tell you anyhow. They'd tell you an upper body injury. And he's day to day. I'm pretty sure Jeremy can't update here. Let's just take a chicken. Will it meet, will.

Don't never say. We'll miss at least one game five hours. Five hours ago. Undisclosed. Left money's game undisclosed. Nobody will know anything until after the first. He's ruled out for game five. Bob.

Anyways, I don't know. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see. I'm a big, huge fan of McCarer. That was, that was one really like, I don't know what he was thinking. Because that was just a bad, bad play. And you realize after watching them in Game 5, how important he is to the Colorado Avalanche. So by next Thursday, when we do this, the first round will be over, right?

All the games, all the series? Should be. Should be. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'll be exciting. We got to talk about all the round one and. Round one. That's right.

Yeah, exciting times. We got to finish then with Islanders. I still get to hold on to my Islanders, Carolina. Carolina's banged up. They are banged up. They are going back to New York, which New York. I had no faith in New York. I just don't.

New York doesn't give me a lot of confidence. Hey, my Islander boys, get her done for me, would you? Sean picked them. Did you pick two upsets, the Islanders? And Florida. And there's in Florida. They're dropping out the top seeds of both sides there. Listen, the only reason I did the Florida is because everyone's like Boston, Boston, Boston.

I'm like, ah, maybe Florida can pull it out. And at the time, I think the series was 2-1 Boston, I think. Maybe. Maybe it's even 1-1. So I'm like, ah, maybe they could pull it out, right? I didn't. I had that came off and not watching Florida Boston. And I'm like, well, that was sorely mistaken.

I had watched, I've watched pretty much every game of Islanders. I've watched a portion of every game in the islanders. Carolina this point. I don't think the Islanders are out of this. I don't I think they've been dealt a couple bad fate moments and they've been in every single game and Carolina is banged up. Svetnikov and tear vining out. That hurts. And Aho getting drilled with a did he? I miss that. Was it a puck? I think it was a puck off the face. He scored he did score in the game but I'm like they're they're banged up. And the Islander scored off of him getting the puck in the face. wasn't that him he got the puck in the face and then Islanders

yeah smoked it in smoked it in this is how you know the Oilers are better in Carolina this year when the puck goes off the face the oiler goes in the net anyways to me I just look at Carolina they're banged up they're going into the aisle the aisle is a notoriously loud like they but in saying that the Islanders didn't play that great and to me to me the only thing that's keeping the Islanders in this series is rogan other than that I don't have a lot of faith in the islanders. Oh, I got a little bit of faith in the Islanders. Come on, boys, they put a shit to a game seven. Hey, here we go. Let me have a little. Okay, so who's your series that you think will go seven? How about that?

Well, obviously Islanders, because they're down three, too, right now. I'm going to say Islanders, Carolina, go to seven. I'm going to say Colorado, Seattle goes to seven. Those two. I'm going to go, I'm actually going to go Colorado, Seattle, because I think Colorado is still winning that one, but it'll be fun. And I'm going to go Minnesota to Dallas as the other one. You think Minnesota goes home and wins game six? I do. And I think Dallas wins a series. But it's actually been a really fun series that one.

All of them have been a good series, though, right? You could flick to anyone and I'm... Yes and no. If I have to watch L.A. sit back at their own blue line when they're down by two or three goals in a game and wait for the Oilers to come. Like... Yeah, why doesn't... I know it's not fun hockey.

But why, when the oilers are up by, what was it, 6-2? Yeah. They're up by four. And L.A. still sitting back. All you got to do is just sit there and just wait. As a defenseman, why would you? I was trying to find the game where it was back like. Philly and 20 years ago?

Tampa Bay. Philly Tampa Bay? Yeah, where the one team was sitting back and the other team just stood there. It was like a minute and a half and nobody moved. And if you're the Oilers in its playoffs, which it is, and they were up by four, you might only and went up by three. If you're up by two, stand there. If you're up by one.

Okay. Who are you picking for your game seven? Game sevens. Pick two of them. Game sevens. Two of them. So you got the Rangers, New Jersey, tat it two apiece.

Boston leading Florida three, two. I'm going to, Rangers Devils, I could see going seven games. That'd be fun. Game sevens are a ton of fun. It's Jersey and the Rangers, too. And somebody from, do you got one more? We picked two each. Yeah.

Dost picked both in the same division. Did I? Yeah. Seattle, Colorado and Dallas, Minnesota. I picked the Islanders pushing it. Seattle, Colorado. Seattle, Colorado. We're all thinking Colorado with McCarback walk in,

and they take it out of Seattle and come back home. If you're the champ, you've got to have one push in you, don't you? You got to. I got to think so. I got to think so. Watch that Dallas game in there and that last one. And when they put her all together, they got a pretty good team. Sagan, who got hurt?

Why can I think of his name? Concussion. He used to play for Pavellski. Pavellski. Pavellski with the concussion hasn't been playing, so Sagan got bumped up to the lineup, right? Sagan's been looking like a beast again. Yeah. Like, I got some depth on that team.

They got a good team. Big team. I'm glad I got Jamie Ben in the draft. He is just a, he is a bull moose out on the ice. You know, and he just runs into people and you're like, oh, I wouldn't want to mess with him. that man. Has anybody checked on the Kitskotty Hockey draft?

I'm not sure we're... I got a bunch of trouble guys. We literally drafted Smetnikov. He's not even playing a game. Actually, I watched them draft Svetschnikov and I was giggling as they did it. Idiots. What a bunch of maroons. Whose choice was that anyhow?

Oh, definitely mine and Burt. We talked about every guy. Oh, Schmachat. That's great. How much? Yeah, yeah, great. He's going for so cheap. What a bunch of maroons. You know what's funny is I was not plan on taking Toronto on that draft, and then I got Toronto on that draft. So I got a bunch of Maples. We.

We. Sorry, we. You know what? Here, here, let's do a little Dawn's Cup update. How about that? Let's think I'm still in last place. Jay's leading 54 points with Paul Berge. Paul Newman.

Apologies to Nate. Paul Newman. So we got two guys, Paul Berge and Nate Newman. Who's the last place, me? For Paul Newman. Anyways. Newman family draft. Jason Newman, 54.

points. Paul squeezing into second with 45, uh, myself sitting at 44, Kroff at 43, dead last Dustin Newman, 26 points. You know, I spent all my money on McDavid and I'm happy I got him, but he hasn't quite, uh, we did, we did, uh, for the listener, we did a auction draft on fan tracks. It was a ton of fun. Um, I took my son with him me and he's making fun of me because he told me I spent too much money on McDavid. Yeah, the top, the top team ranking, now he's got Vegas, Dallas, Carolina, yeah, that would be the top team. What the heck does Paul Newman have here? Let's just take it a little quick here.

He's got a misgash. He's got freaking Kempe, who everybody's been bugging him about, but Kempe's been absolutely blowing it out the door. Oh, he's got some Carolina, Boston. Florida, yeah. Of course he's got one Boston, one Florida. Two Boston. It was the first guy to have one guy who made it past the first round without a game.

me even being played. Anyways, thanks for hopping on. We're going to get this out to you folks as fast as humanly possible. So as soon as this ends, it's out the door and it'll be on. And we're coming back next week, like I said, either Wednesday, Thursday, it just depends when the oilers. By that time, it's second round. So hopefully the oilers have closed it out, moving on.

It'll be done by Monday. It'll be done by Monday. And one way or another, we're going to be talking about it. We're coming at you for the playoff push here, having a little bit of fun talking about some different things. And, well, we'll catch up to you guys next week on the Brothers Roundtable. Thanks for hopping in, fellas. Thanks.