Shaun Newman Podcast - #434 - Tariq Elnaga

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Owner & Founder of Bottom Hand Ranch Services - Western Canada's first and only labour supply and staffing agency for the ranching industry. He moved from Dubai after attending the Calgary Stampede and has done a deep dive into Canadian politics. We discuss the upcoming Alberta provincial election. Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500 SNP Presents: Luongo & Krainer https://www.showpass.com/snp-presents-luongo-krainer/ Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast

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Here we go. This is Terik Elnaga and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. today, I'm joined by Terrick Alnaga. So, sir, thanks for hopping on. My pleasure. My pleasure. It's a good morning, sir.

I feel like this has been a long time coming, Terrick. You know, we've kind of been in the same circles. We've, you know, certainly with the addition to twos on the podcast and everything else, I feel like I kind of know you, but I've never really sat down and had a conversation for an extended period of time. I know we met last September and you said, hey, we want to get you on the podcast. And I'm like, well, I've been waiting. since September. So I'm glad it happens. I'm glad to do it. Well, for the listener who doesn't know what Terrick is, let's start with a bit of your background. And certainly I want to talk,

you know, we just had, for the listener, it'll be a couple days back. But for us, you know, just last night was the debate between Smith and Lawtony. I kind of want to talk some Alberta election. But before we get there, let's give the listener a little taste of who Terrick is and we'll go from there. Yeah, you betcha. So, you know, I've said the story a couple of times, I wasn't born and raised in Canada. I was born and raised in Dubai. And 12 years ago, I had never been to a rodeo of my life, and I went to Calgary on vacation.

I sat in the stands. I watched the Calgary stampede from, and I thought, you know what, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. I'm going to do exactly that. And I have no animal experience. I grew up in the city. I went home, sold the house, sold the car, quit my job, moved out to Erdry.

Alberta and joined an Ag Society and a rodeo society and started to learn how to ride, how to drive tractors, how to drive combines. And one thing led to another. I bought my first horse. Second, third, I started competing. I'm in my third year of pro-computing now. And I've got two businesses that I run. One is in the oil and gas world.

I'm an engineer by education. So the corporate transition coming from Dubai to here was relatively easy because both are oil and gas economies with very different political systems, which we could talk about if you want to do. And then the other that's kind of a labor of love for me is I run a ranch management and ranch labor supply business that is now officially in all four Western provinces. So we just got our first Manitoba order this week. So very exciting. When you talk about Dubai, you talk about the political structures being different. Yeah, I'd love to hear, you know, what, as he brings up the 222 Minutes Cup, two somewhere.

Either way, yeah, I would love to hear what's different. Kind of give our, I would love for the listeners to hear that. So I think, you know, growing up there, the way I would describe it is it's a non-democratic, ultra-capitalist system in the sense that very, very business forward. But I think what shaped my views and really one of the reasons why I got, if I'll call it even, not even politically involved, but at least politically aware, was I've lived through both Gulf Wars, so Gulf 1 and Gulf 2. And you literally look outside of your window. And I remember, well, speaking of windows, I remember, I mean, I was 9 or 10 years old for Gulf 1. And my parents taping down the windows at home because they were worried about a bio or nerve agent attack. and you look outside your home and there's actual Marines on the street at the time,

you know, when you went to get a haircut back when I had hair, you walked into a barbershop and asked for the Marines cut. Like it was called that because it was trendy. But it was 100% an oil war, right? Saddam invaded Kuwait for their oil resources. And then the second Gulf War was what I call the Halliburton War. So I moved to Canada, a very peaceful country with on paper, you know, some of the best human rights in the world, etc. And I get in the oil industry and suddenly this country really is trying very hard to shut down one of its largest industries,

even though the fact that it's human rights forward, it's politically neutral, it's very technology and environment responsible. And I thought, why? why are we doing this? And as I dug deeper into it, I found out that Alberta was pretty much, and Saskatchewan in many ways, pretty much landlocked in the middle of the country between two very leftist governments in BC and Quebec

that just don't want our oil. And I thought, but this helps everybody, builds roads and schools and hospitals. And that's kind of when I started getting politically involved. I'm like, I've got a story to tell. I've seen what the effects of an oil award look like, And it's just, this doesn't make sense to me. When you talk about seeing the effects of an oil war,

I'm just curious, just to hang on the two wars that, you know, you grew up around. You know, I feel like out in Canada, probably specifically Western Canada, you're like, there is no war ever coming here. We're in the middle of nowhere. We're so far away. We got the U.S. underneath us, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And saying that, I don't think I'm that naive anymore, not saying that it will happen anytime soon, but at the same time, I feel like I've learned from enough people that, you know, it doesn't take much.

You know, I think the Army men I've had on here have all talked about. It just starts with a little bit of a divide, and then from there, you just never know where it can get to. It can get to some pretty tough spots. But going back to whether, you know, if it's your childhood, it's your parents, if it's, if it's, industry, jobs, people around you, your community. What was growing up in that like? Maybe you could just, I don't know, honestly, Derek, just tell me a little bit more. Absolutely.

So the thing about growing up in Dubai is, again, 50 years ago, it was desert, right? Like that was it. It was typically Bedouins living in desert. So kind of within our lifetime. But when oil was discovered, they said, well, we don't have the expertise to, extract this resource. So in comes your majors, Shell, BP, et cetera. And suddenly, you're importing a whole bunch of talent from around the world, whether that's engineers, doctors, school teachers, everything, right? Because you're bringing it all in and you're

bringing all that expertise in. And one of the things that, because there's a lot of expats, there's a school for every education system in the world. So you have a German school and a French school. And right now, I think that there's six Canadian schools because of all the expats, the Canadian expats that live in the area. I was fortunate enough that I went to an American school. And that's why, you know, when I first moved earlier, like, oh, you don't have much of an accent. And I said, well, my entire education's been in English by American teachers. And then I also went to an American university in the area that was set up by Texas A&M.

So all the professors were from Texas Inium, the lab equipment, the curriculum, etc. So the one thing that they do well there is they say, we're not good at this, who's good at it, and let's go find it. When the indoor ski hill, like the first time I ever seen snow or was in sub-zero temperatures was in an indoor ski hill in Dubai. and it's real snow that's artificially made. And how are they going to teach the locals how to ski and snowboard? There's no local instructors. So they went and bought a Swiss ski school in its entirety and moved to all 25 instructors and snow groomers and what have you

to Dubai and said, here's your new jobs. So they're very good at doing that. And I think here it's the opposite where, you know, We have folks with no expertise, let's say about pipelines saying, I don't want that. It hurts my feelings. But it's the right thing to do. It's safer. It's better for national security, et cetera.

But growing up there, I would say, I mean, outside of the weather, which is pretty dang hot, it is literally the opposite of here where it's, you have two seasons in Dubai. Hot and less hot is what I call it. Less hot is actually a great season because it's 25 every day and sunny and it rains probably three days in the entire year. But hot, I've seen days where it's touched 50, 52 kind of in that range. So pretty hot. In terms of growing up there, the last thing I'll say is from a lifestyle standpoint, it does afford you a lot of luxuries and a lot of experiences that I'm very lucky to have had. and being there as well and having, I mean, this is very appropriate that we talk about this today

because West just decided that they are not going to strike, but we've seen the chaos in a very uncompetitive, over-regulated big government aviation system, whereas over there it is teeny tiny government in terms of aviation. One of the things that I really miss about living there is being able to, on a Tuesday, say, I'm going to Barcelona on Thursday. So the amount of exposure I've seen to the world and being able to travel, I mean, when I first moved here, Sean, I was like, oh, this is my new country, I'm going to explore it. I'm going to go to Vancouver on the weekend and the Maritimes and next weekend and so on. And I'm like, hold on a second.

How much does it cost to get to Halifax? And flights to Halifax were more expensive than flights to Paris. And I thought, this just can't be right. So I looked into it, and again, it's a made-in-canada problem where it's just big government. Well, you come with a unique perspective. I think that's what I've enjoyed about my brief chats with you and certainly seeing you chat on a couple different, you know, I think it was, you were just on Rebel News, weren't you? I feel like you were in Rebel News not that long. Yesterday.

Oh, yeah, it was yesterday. I felt like it was just anyways. I just enjoy your perspective. It's unique. And somehow, you know, on this show, we cultivate that. And it kind of gives you a bit different perspective than what we're getting fed. And so I come to, you know, the current election then. And, you know, Terrick, I don't know, I know a ton of political nerds who grew up in the province

or, you know, kind of in their family and they come up through, you know, and they can rattle off everything. And one of the things I enjoy listening to you talk is you come from an outside perspective to the Canadian and specifically, I guess, the Alberta election process, everything else. I just watched for, you know, twos a laugh at me, but I just watched my first premier debate, well, first, I don't know, what the heck in what am I calling it? Smith versus Notley, I don't know, like it's the first debate I've watched in the province of Alberta, other than the one I guess I helped direct on, you know, and the one where they were running for the UCP.

but I was like, this is strange. Like, I don't know what you thought of last night, but I was like, you know, the one thing I really hate about a debate is like, let them have it out. Like, like, just let them have it out. Let's go three hours. I don't care. Let them have it out.

They're throwing daggers at each other. You're not letting them respond. You keep moving on. Nobody can figure it. Like, did you learn anything last night off of Smith, Notley? Not really. I mean, nothing that I know. And again, Sean, like, I look at the debate yesterday.

And there's going to be a hardcore UCP camp anyways coming into that. And there's a hardcore NDP camp coming into it anyways. So the debate should have, could have been designed for the swayable middle, which predominantly lives in Calgary, like geographically will live in Calgary. Because rural is UCP. Edmonton is an orange lock. Maybe one or two seats will be a surprise there. But Calgary is where it's at.

And I didn't see anything. It was just more policy work than it is. Now, in terms of personality and confidence, if someone was looking at being swayed one way or another, definitely there was a difference of, you know, cool, steadfast confidence. And then there was this nervous energy to Rachel Notley that I just picked up on. I'm like, man, either she's on the back foot or she's tired or she knows what's coming.

And she just stepped or she stepped in the ring with Daniel Smith. And by now, you know, it was the first UCP debate when they were having their leaders debate, I think people thought they, well, no, I guarantee it. They underestimated how well Daniel Smith speaks. And but walking in there, she knows exactly what she's about to walk into. There's no skipping around Daniel Smith. She can't even slam her on the COVID stuff because she wasn't in government at that time. I found it interesting that, but I don't know, maybe that's a UCP thing.

What are your thoughts? Why didn't Danielle go, yeah, listen, I've been in government for seven months. And this has been my track record instead of keeping it UCP. Because she embodied the entire UCP thing when she could have just literally went, listen, I've been in for seven months. And in the last seven months, this is what we've done. Yeah. I think it's a couple of reasons why she did that.

And it's a great question because I noticed that. I think it's a couple of reasons. One, I don't think it would have been classy at this stage. for her to throw Jason Kenny under the bus because there is still a portion of the party that did elect and vote for Jason Kenny. So I don't think she wanted to necessarily do that. And then the second thing was I think she didn't want to run away from ownership. She didn't want to run away from you know, I'm kind of this is my party. I can't be like, well, that was someone else's fault. That wasn't my job, et cetera, and saying, you know what, this is this is us as a team.

So I think if I'm a UCP candidate or if I'm loyal to my individual MLA rather than to let's say Rachel Hottley or Premier Smith, she didn't shouldn't throw the parties passed under the bus and I really like that. That's interesting. I guess I feel like Daniel Smith has enough tact in her that it wouldn't come off as throwing under the bus. You don't have to call it Jason Kenny. But as she's saying, this is what your party's done. It's interesting to me because it's like, hmm, if you know Daniels, you know, they keep attacking her for being a radio host

and the things she said and all these different things and having to get on television and talk all the time and being on a radio show and getting caught her feet and talking all these people, they keep trying to like pull up these clips that are like, you know, can end her. And it's like, well, you know, she wasn't a sitting MLA.

she was pretty much the outcast of politics and for the last seven months she's been the and I don't think that's cast I don't think that's thrown anyone under the bus I think it's like really separating you know when she talks about all the pro I don't know I guess I see you know I I've seen how well Daniel Smith can dance and at times she is excellent but I don't know you're bringing on like I would say

you know I think I definitely think she would have still kept it classy. She could have acknowledged that the UCP had problems, right? That the UCP kind of forgot representing Albertans. And Albertans were hurting and and being very vocal about what they were not getting from their government. Yet we had Jason Kenney kind of become a turn us into a mini Ontario for a little bit. It's not what Albertans wanted. it. They spoke up and 110,000 memberships were sold into, which is a record, into the UCP. And they said, nope, we don't want this. And I think, you know, the vote came down almost 50-50 in terms of confidence for Jason Kenney. I think that there's people that if the election wasn't, you know,

seven months away at the time or eight months away, they probably would have voted again to boot him out. I think they were just hedging their bets saying, we don't have time to get a leadership race going and what have you. And they were more worried about a notly government than anything. So I'm glad that that vote came about. I think that the UCP had lost confidence in their voter base. And the voter base spoke up. I'm glad that they did.

Yeah, well, I think we both agree on that. There's no question in my mind. You've been, you know, Tuesday and I, I've talked about you an awful lot. So, you know, which is funny. I don't know if he tells you that or not, regardless. It doesn't matter too much. But one of the things we got talking about is your attention to detail on the NDP

because I don't think a lot of us really, you know, like, I'm in rural Alberta. You know, I mean, could the NDP went out here? Well, I would say pigs have a better chance of flying. That's me. I could be wrong and I could be shocked. I just, I don't see it. So I'm just not around it, Terrick. And you're a lot closer to the battleground.

What have you been seeing? What are the things that are sticking out to you? You know, and I don't know, let's just go from there. It's very interesting, you say that. So even though I only live, I don't know what, 30 kilometers from the center of Calgary. Because my riding is considered rural Berbia, I call it, Erdry East. the polling currently shows a 99% chance of my MLA rating receipt. You know, it will be a complete...

99% chance? It'll be a complete obliteration. And the NDP candidates in this area is from the teachers union. Like, you know, stereotypical NDP candidate. It's never going to work out for him. So there's that. But I think one of the things I love, learned when I ran in federal office was shockingly how little, call it on the average door knock,

people knew about how politics worked. And you don't vote for Justin Trudeau or you don't vote at the time for Aaron O'Toole or now Pierre Palliav. None of us, as a matter of fact, in Alberta and Saskatchewan can vote for either of them because we don't live in Papineau or in Carlton. So you vote for your local MLA and quite a few people think that we operate on a popular vote. So we don't.

So speaking of Rachel Notley and Premier Smith, Premier Smith is in a Brooks riding and Rachel Notley is in a downtown Edmonton riding, Edmonton Strathcona. The vast majority of us will not vote for either of them. So I started looking at what the individual candidates in Calgary were,

because that's what matters. And I think people need to know that. I ran into a group of Alberta party door knockers shown. And I asked them, you know, I'm not voting for you guys. I'm on Team Smith. But I'm very curious, regardless of party affiliation, I was down there for work. On the doors that you've knocked on,

how many people know the name of their individual MLA or even their writing, right? So just in a very nonpartisan way, on my ballot, it says I'm in Calgary, Dash, Acadia, or Haydh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They said about 20%, 20, 25% if people knew. So I think what's happening is, oh, there's a lot of candidates writing on just the name of either leader. I mean, you see the NDP signs in Calgary and they say Team Rachel, right?

Like his people know that name. That being said, when you dig into the individual ridings, I think that's where the battles are. Some of them are going to be really, really close. and both parties are working incredibly hard for that vote. You know, you and I, twos, we've talked about this, whether you're a conservative or a liberal, or sorry, in this case, you've got to earn my vote,

so you've got to go out and work for it. In a rural writing, does a conservative have to do it? No, but they are. Like I can see my MLA, she's out putting on events and knocking on doors and I think she's very active. But she's going to win it anyways. Whereas in Calgary, it's nice to see that Ken is really duking it out. So, well, A, you make a very good point.

I think if you go back, I don't know how many years. Like, it was only a year ago when they were, you know, the UCP was firing up with, you know, who's going to be the next leader. and the outstanding like I was just like what's going on so like I'm part of that 80% they'd be like actually you know like I don't know what riding I'm in you know like I'm in Lloydminster you know that's when I'm in and it's it's one of the problems Terrick I've stared at now for you know a full year it's like so how do we get it that people want to tune in right because you can't you can't just like you know it was on it was on

it was live streamed it was everything last night and I think I think I think there was, you know, this morning when I looked at it, what, 50,000 views, something like that. Maybe I'm a little under, maybe I'm a little more now. I don't know. And you go for the population of Alberta, 4.4 million roughly, you go, oh, right? Like, they didn't even turn the needle. Didn't even, you know, like, and the people that watched it, I watched it, you watched it, I'm like, I don't know if it did anything. Like, I mean, I just hate the format. So you go, how, you know, they always come back to door knocking. I'm like, how do you get people to pay attention or how do you get it so that they want to pay attention?

Agreed. And I'll tell you in urban writings, and I felt this myself in the urban part of my writing, everybody in their dog has a ring camera now. And if you are not a familiar face, so it doesn't matter if you're a political party, you're selling landscaping services. They're not coming to the door. So I think there's a big failure, and I hate to admit it, but I think the liberals do this a little bit better or the left does this a little bit better than the conservatives is you need to get on people's phones and you need to be able to push short form political engaging content to from digital channels. I could be sitting in my living room watching Netflix and if someone's knocking on my door selling, I don't know, vacuum cleaners.

I'm not showing up, right? Like I'll look at my camera and I'm like, no, I'm not coming. So the thing is, to me, I think here's kind of where this is an amalgamation of a lot of things. And if I may. So I think this is a result of two to three decades of a Canadian stereotype, if you will, that we're starting to see the results of it, which is, oh, don't. worry about Canadian politics. It's nice and polite and nothing happens. Look at the Americans and the shit show. Can I say that? Yeah, absolutely. And the shit show that they are. And just look at

them. I mean, remember when Trump was in office? I think one of the best things that happened for some sort of Canadian media sort of neutrality. No, I wouldn't even call it neutrality, but at least focus on our backyard is now Trump is in office. Because every time he got up and walked around, we heard about it and we heard nothing about our own news. So I think this is three decades of this mindset in a Canadian society saying, our politics are nice and polite, it's boring, nothing happens, I don't need to get involved. Oh man, I'm so glad we're not the states. So we see that, I've heard that over and over and over again.

The other part, as well as our political engagement is unbelievably low, and I think that's by design. We don't teach it in school anymore. We have no awareness of, you know, political advertising. What riding am I in? What parties are running, et cetera? So, you know, when I was looking at, so I looked at all 26 seats in Calgary. And I wanted to know, regardless of where they vote, how many of them voted.

The highest riding, this is the highest, had a voter turnout of 70%. 70. 70. All five seats, for example, north of Memorial Drive and east of Highway 2 had about 48 to 52% voter turnout. So half the people didn't even leave their house to go out and vote. And I voted. I'm very honored to vote because I think that a lot of people died for you and I to be able to vote. And it takes 10 minutes.

and it is stupidly easy in in terms of a process to do and you have advanced polling stations and you have in-person polling stations and you could, every party will offer you a ride if you can't get to the party, to the polling station.

It is stupidly easy. I mean, the law in Canada gives you three hours of paid time to go vote. It will not take you three hours to go vote. But if you want to take that time off, take it.

But it blows my, mind, Sean, that our political engagement is this much. And I think it's by design. The education system doesn't teach it. The media doesn't push it. And then there's this decades long mindset that politics are boring. Well, politics are boring. And that might be by design as well. Because you know, I've been I've been having this discussion behind closed doors, you know, of like, we just went through three years of something else. And every time. you talk about it as a politician I mean you get attacked as like all right all these different things and you go yeah so do you stick to the calm waters and and act like it didn't exist and

just try and get reelected and I'm not trying to slam any of the people running right now I'm just pointing out that the idea being if you just try and stay to the calm waters we sail through this and we get elected and then we can change it once we're in there yeah and you know you know People are not dumb. So when you are feeding them a load of bullshit and not talking about what's going on and not addressing, you know, like you get talking about policies and budget

and billions of dollars here and billions of dollars there and we're the greatest thing and pat ourselves on the back and it's like, meanwhile, there's a lot of crap going on. And, you know, for all the things that I am not a giant Trump fan for, other parts I really enjoy because, you know, they don't throw him softballs in the media, They come for him. And he just chops them down and has like these great answers where you're like,

where is the Canadian politician just, Pierre sometimes does it. But I mean, he panders to the entire country, right? Like, I mean, I'm bouncing all over the place on you,

but I just, to me, you want to engage, you want to engage Canadians, realize they're smart because they are. They're hardworking. They go out. They,

you know, they tame the land that wants to kill us for eight months of the year. So give them the respect, listen to them, add in some of their ideas, and you might get some things. You stop listening to them. You stop, I don't know, you stop like, I mean, we just created this mold of politician. It's just, it's so brutal. It's interesting because, Sean, I keep thinking about this. And, I mean, obviously here in the West, we have an immense amount of rage at the incompetence of Justin Trudeau and his government and what.

have you. But we use paper ballots in Canada, not machines, right? So there are enough Canadians in the correct writings that went out and voted for Justin Trudeau, not once, not twice, but three times. And if I was a betting man, I'm going to guess four times too. Because how you and I vote will never set who sits in the prime minister's office? Never. Like statistically, the only thing it will change is whether he gets a majority or minority. That's it. But whoever sits in the PM's office is Ontario and Quebec's decision. And I look at it and I say how. And I think that, again, when you talk about the education system, we're seeing two to three decades now of the education system, which is relatively left-leaning,

relatively socialist. We're seeing that in society now where people not only accept, but want big government. They want it. Again, if you'll look at the events of the last three years, it took a couple of truckers from Alberta to start a movement, and I think from rural Alberta specifically, and eventually kind of start opening a country back up. But I think if it wasn't for that,

those walkdowns and restrictions would have gone on and on and on. and the vast majority of people accept it and then you still read comments online about the trucker convoy from folks in urban eastern environments and they're like, yeah, they got what they deserved. Yeah, the Emergency Act was right. It was justified and they just keep

just very passive, either passive or supportive of it. So I'm worried about this passiveness. Like to me, I think the biggest danger we're looking at politically, regardless of where you sit left or right in Canada, is just this epic passiveness that we've got to change. Well, I've got to give some love to Saskatchewan and starting the trucker's convoy too.

Chris Barber was Saskatchewan boy. Yes. But regardless, Western provinces 100% agree. The thing is, so you look at, you know, you're always going to have part of the population that is always going to be on the left, and you're always going to have part of the population that is on the far right, right?

They're just never going to meet in the middle. There's a whole bunch of people that are just sitting in the middle. they, you know, what is it, the quiet majority, whatever they call it. They live in cities. They live in the rural. They live all over the bloody place. They all think relatively the same. And they're just waiting, I think, you know, to me, this is why Daniel Smith gets elected.

I could be wrong. But Daniel Smith got up in front of, you know, and just kept saying the same things again, right? We're going to stand up to Ottawa. Ooh, like that. Yeah. We're going to make sure there's no lockdowns anymore. I don't care if you're in the city or in rural. You didn't want it anymore.

Nobody wanted it, even if, even if they're looking for big government and they wanted the leader to say it. That's right. So she got out and she said it. And she said a bunch of other things that just both sides agreed with. And by both sides, I mean rural and urban. And you know, there's just, I don't know. I've been disengaged from this election. Think about that because I literally like I know how important it is.

I knew how important the UCP nomination for who our next Premier was going to be when they were doing that. I covered the entire thing. I was saying the other day, Terrick, I'm like, it's just, it's not that I don't care. It's that I'm like, I don't know how, like, if you are going to vote the NDP after they were just in. And we saw the chaos that came from that. And certainly, COVID and some of the UCP, what they did was not great. but they got ousted. And now you got a new leader in and you're not, I just, I don't know.

That's where I'm at. Let me tell you about kind of Justin, because I think this is another thing that I've noticed over the last little while. Our demographics, both as a province and the country, change vastly year over year. So, for example, over the last three years, I have a realtor friend in Cochran here. And it told me 70% of home sales and Cochrane are new Albertans moving here either from out of the country or from Ontario. Because they can't get into the housing market. And this actually happened to me two weeks ago. I got into an Uber with a buddy of mine, born and raised in Saskatchewan.

Tesla pulls up. We get in. And we wanted to have a couple of drinks. So we said that's a responsible thing to do. we'll order an Uber. And I was just talking to the driver as you do. And, you know, questions how long you've been doing this, et cetera. And he's like, yeah, I just moved here from Ontario with my family three weeks ago.

And I asked him, I'm like, so, that's awesome. Welcome to Alberta. And what moved you out here was at work, family, et cetera. And he's like, like all other Ontarians, the housing market. And I said, okay, fair. And then I asked him, I'm like, so do you know why? the housing market is more affordable and why you're paying 5% GST versus 13. And he kind of like, he's like, what do you mean?

And I'm like, well, there's a reason why we're a third of the price here. And there's a reason why cost of living here is better, jobs here better, et cetera. And he's like, yeah, you know, there's big industry here, like the railroads. And I, yeah, that face exactly is, is, is, what I made. And I'm like, oh my God. So the fact that is, you know, not dissimilar to all the Texans, sorry, the Californians move into Texas and then voting for the same things that make California, our demographics are very different from 2019. And I'm really worried about folks moving to Alberta and not understanding what makes Alberta great. That's interesting.

And they're, and they're moving to the urban areas, right? They're not moving to law. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're moving to the areas that matter in an election, matter. in the sense that that's where the seats are. I'm going to tell you a thought, you know, I'm curious your thoughts on it. And I'm going to butcher, I wish I had it pulled up, and I would spend 15 minutes looking through it, but folks, the phone over the last week

since I had Joshua Allen on has been insane. So I just, I don't even want to begin because I can't remember what text it was. But I was talking about Christianity, but I want to pull it towards the idea towards politics. Hopefully I can do this. what the listener said was Josh Allen, a cowboy,

I call him the cowboy preacher, he comes on, talks about his love of Jesus Christ in a way that's like, it's captivating. You want to listen to it. And what the listener said was, you know, the days are gone when you want to listen to a preacher anymore, like a pastor.

I'm just basically, I'm done. I need ordinary folk to tell me about it. And Josh Allen was like a knockout, punch kind of thing. And when it comes to politics and how it works and everything else, there's a lost trust in media, in our politicians, in our institutions, to tell us how it's supposed to work. And so I wonder, Terrick, if, you know, when you talk about your Uber story, I'm like, so what needs to continue to happen is the ordinary, you know, cowboy, to get on and talk about politics and and break it down for people because I'm like I'm telling you two years ago I didn't know jack squat about everything you just talked about now I'm like kind of like yeah I'm starting to get lots of it I've lived here all my life it just hasn't been it has not been distilled to me in a way that I like can listen to it maybe somebody can pick up you know can hop on a website and read through all the laws and be like oh boom for me it's it's been completely different and I I have lost a lot of

of trust in everything I just said. And when I hear you talk, I'm like, I'm ready to listen to Territalk. I'm ready to listen to Tews rant. I'm ready to listen to a lot of different people that don't come with all the backing of being in politics for the last 20 years trying to tell me how to do it and how it's been done because it's gotten us to this point, I guess, is where I'm getting that. Yep. Does that make a lot of sense? Absolutely. I think we've got to have ordinary racism engaged and you know that expression we just talked about it is I'll look at the Americans I would say that the average American is more politically engaged than the average in the affairs of their community and um but look at what but look at what they have there

they have they literally have now in fairness I'm not saying I love either one right but because of all the things they've got CNN they got so one they got two major networks works immediately and then go down the talent list of who they have talking about it you know from from the the I'm I don't know I from Joe Rogan to Ben Shapiro and I know there's a whole bunch across the board they all talk about it they they have created an entertainment industry certainly Joe talks about a lot of different things folks but they've created an entertainment industry on what goes on in their politics and I know I just missed about a thousand shows in the United States that do exactly that. You know, Stephen Crowder comes to mind and there's just a whole bunch of, and Canada doesn't

have that. Not yet. I should say not yet. You know, you and twos are leading that charge and then you're doing it in a very non-politiciany way, right? It's just ordinary. It's ordinary folks talking about ordinary stories and talking about common sense politics. I don't even call it left or right anymore, right? Like I, um, yesterday the debate, like a lot of the things that Daniel Smith talked about was just straight up common sense. I wouldn't even call it conservative politics, right? So, um, so you're banging on. I want to see stronger political engagement. I'll tell you this, John, when I ran, um, the number of times I got advice saying, um, knock on doors and worry about anybody over the age of 55 because everybody under the age of 55 doesn't vote. Um, and,

And I thought, what, really? What a lot of bullshit that is. Exactly. And I was told, you know, don't want to emphasize social media. And I'm like, this isn't because it's for the young ones. I'm like, it's not about even the 19 year old anymore. It's you have a 43 year old taking their kids to hockey practice and they're on their phone while their kids are a hockey practice.

I'm like, no, you need to get that audience. You need to get the 35 to 55 even, right? So, and it was kind of true because sort of, at least in the channels that I did, in-person events, it was definitely 55 plus dominant rather than younger. So why? You know, again, there's 100 reasons why, but I think we, to your point about creating entertainment, we've got to create attractiveness, if not entertainment, to our politics. got to be engaging and attractive.

Well, and it's got to be engaging, attractive, and it's got to be trustworthy. Because, you know, like, if you turn on something and you, well, I mean, I just, I was watching that debate last night and the stiff host and everything. I was just like, everything I've come to hate over the last, like, three years. I'm like, anyway, it's kind of why me and twos are doing election night coverage because we're like, we're probably going to just absolutely fumble this like nobody's business, right? But even if we do, you know, it's funny. Even if the ball goes rolling down the hill and you got 50 guys piling up to try and grab it,

I feel like at the end we're going to have it in her hands. We're going to look back and we're like, well, that wasn't exactly what we planned. But certainly for the listener, Terrick's going to be on that. That's May 29th. Correct. That is coming awfully fast. And, you know, like, if nothing else, you're going to figure out who won with a little bit of a smile on your face because I don't know if me and twos can go an entire show without telling each other.

you're an idiot and that ain't gonna change on a on a mashup election coverage you know it should be interesting regardless of how you know the everything else goes on it sticking with Calgary I've we bounced all over the place and I apologize but you know this is this is life when you're talking about Calgary you know I've had a lot of people texting saying you know you have to tell the the UCP they got it they got to focus on this because the people living in Gallagher, listen to the show, we're going like, everywhere is an orange sign. And everywhere, you know, they've been door knockers that I talk to that they've been saying, like even conservative voting last time are talking about maybe voting for an NDP this time.

I'm really interesting. What have you heard seen from that end of the country, from that end of the province, I should say. So I do think that the naughty team realized. that that is their only chance of winning the province. And they've kind of have no involvement in the rural areas whatsoever. In terms of law and science, I'm kind of a little bit phased or unfazed about them because I feel like this is, again, a campaign tactic from 40 years ago

that should go away for everybody. It just creates a lot of litter and an immense amount of waste and they're used for 30 days. and I don't think that long signs sway me if I see more orange signs than blue or more blue signs than orange. I'm not voting either way, right? Like I'm voting on policy. But that being said, considering the fact that if this statistic is accurate and only 20, 25% of people know the name of the writing, it's not a bad way to get the name of the candidates out or at least even the name of the writing out.

because when I ran for for Maverick I think the campaign spent close to $8,000 on Longin's Alliance and because people were asking out where's your clients and I said I can't like I didn't lose a vote or gain a vote from it like it was just a thing you did but I would have rather spend those $8,000 to be honest on digital advertising like I think that would have been a lot more effective get it to a captive audience on people's phones but anyways what's happening Calgary right now is you're seeing a lot of activist candidates that are going after the middle from the NDP and by activist candidates. I mean, these aren't conspiracies, et cetera. Their candidate roster includes the following. It includes a couple of union bosses. It includes two people from

the Pembina Institute, which is a vehemently anti-Canadian oil and Canadian energy organization. And they're not anti-oil generally. They're anti-Canadian oil. I guess. that's their thing. And the fact that you have candidates are even allowed to run, I mean, hey, it's a democracy. Everybody's allowed to run. But the fact that people are actually listening to them blows my mind in Calgary. I think that they are going after that sway middle, if you will. There are some UCP candidates right now that are in a fight for their life.

Because, I mean, for example, Calgary Varsity, that vote came down to, I think it was 700 votes. the last go around 1% was the difference between an NDP candidate and a UCP candidate. Interesting enough that NDP candidate and McGrath is a literal communist, like ran for the Communist Party of Canada. So it's very surprising and also worrisome. The other thing as well, like all five seats in the northeast of the city, where voter turnout's 50% if you. two or three percent more people show up, it'll go either way. So it's a get out, kind of get

get out the vote type of exercise. So it's, I think that you're seeing even within Calgary, very different campaign tactics between downtown core, northeast, suburbia. Every, every kind of campaign, each of the 26 seats is very, very unique. The interesting thing as well, and kind of I've talked to with a few friends about this. It isn't so much whether Rachel Lottley or Smith is going to win. It's what does the cabinet look like? Because there's a lot of cabinet seats out of Calgary. And if there's a mix-up in Calgary in the next 10 days here,

you're going to see a very different cabinet. You know, I'm thinking like you just don't think it can happen again. But when I sit and hear that, you're like, it is closer than I give it then. Well, here's what I do think. You know, this call us the El Nango election prediction. I do think that the UCP will win. So in my heart, I mean for even just statistically, for the NDP to win, they have to sweep Calgary. They have to take every single seat in Calgary.

And I can't see that happening because there's some very still safe UCP seats in Calgary. That being said, I think they are going to win by a smaller margin than when Jason Kenney won. So a smaller seat count than when Jason Kenney won. What that means is there's a couple of UCP candidates in Calgary that will not be elected MLAs in a couple of weeks here. And it'll be very interesting to see how that goes. And there are names that you and I know because they're names that were very prominent over the last three years. So former and current Minister of Health, I think those seats are very high risk. You're seeing a lot of downtown seats that are at risk.

So it's going to be interesting because then Premier Smith now has to have a cabinet that's almost predominantly rural. How's that going to play out in another four years? So I've got all these theories about, I'm less worried about what happens on May 29th and I'm more interested about what happens on May 30th. interesting that's uh well i mean in one breath that makes me go oh that that's that's some hopeful news and in the next breath i'm like i get what you mean because this this is you know now now not only does it change for the next four years but then in four years what does it look like you know

it's it's like the work is cut out for ourselves uh you know and i sit here and i go we and and by we, I mean, media here in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Canada, have to do a very good job of trying to make it something people want to tune into to pay attention to what's going on so they can get their information. And, you know, I'm never going to, I hope I'm, you know, certainly on the mashup, we rag a lot on the NDP. They give us a lot of ammo to do that, I might ask. Oh, yeah. But, you know, one of the things I love about, well, my audience, but certainly Canadians is like, I don't want to be told how to vote. I just want you to give me some things and let me think on it and stew on it.

It's like, go do what you want to do, you know, and let the chips fall where they may. You bang on, Sean, you know, what I'm more, and you're absolutely right. Like, I don't want to be telling people how to vote. I give them information. I honestly don't think you are, but we can both agree that we're looking at the NDP and go, man, like, I really don't want them to get back in. Like, it's only four years ago, you know. I think it'll be a disaster.

I don't think it'll take decades for Alberta to recover from another Trudeau-Notley overlap. Like I think it'll take absolute decades. Now, to your point, though, about how to vote, what I do want to see is actually people leaving the house to go vote. Like one of the things I really want to see is what's the turnout going to be look like on an overall percentage across the province and also seat by seat. because at 70% that's still one in four people never left their home and that's in the best of writings in Calgary

and in some of them you know half the people just didn't go out well we'll make sure because it's a Monday we'll make sure that that we have a I got to think about this because you know all next week for the listener it's all election coverage right

minus the brother's round but we'll probably bring it up in on Thursday as well and so the next four or five episodes is going to be all about the Alberta election and we'll make sure on the Monday that you know sometimes the best remedy for that is just reminder and then you go how can somebody forget I don't know you got two kids at home one of them sick and you know they're and pretty soon the day fly by it and you go oh my goodness and I'm I just sympathize with parents because I understand how those days go but like I have the best remedy Sorry, I don't need to go ahead. Keep going.

The best remedy is to keep reminding people over and over again. And of course, you can do, you can, you can vote today, right? Like, I mean, you can vote to, there's no reason to wait to the last moment unless you're like me and are like, I'm putting in the paper, I'm putting in the paper ballot. I'm going to, to me, it is, I don't know, becoming tradition or what have you. But certainly if, you know, plan ahead and you got all, and we'll talk about that. all this coming week as we lead closer and closer to it. At least that's what we can do on this side.

Right. Right. No, absolutely. I mean, I've got like my voter information sheet here. And it's very easy where I can vote, how I can vote, et cetera. And I think that is absolutely freaking critical. It is just blows my mind. And the other thing is if you don't get to vote, then you don't get to complain.

That's kind of the way I look at it. is because someone else now doubled up your voice to so it'd be so nice to see there isn't I think a single rioting in the entire province that's even hit 90% turnout I don't think there's a single one and again I got 100% is unachievable but it's pretty dismal when the average is somewhere in the 60s 70s I think the highest one is drum hell or stettler at 82%. 82% to me seems like pretty dang good. Yeah. Yeah.

Like I just, you know, the importance of some of the topics that you're, you know, you're talking about here for Alberta specifically. You know, they love to, you know, they love to give it health care and this and that and everything else. And certainly I'm not knocking on any of those, but I'm like, when we got, you know, in the next four years, how much carbon tax is going up, you got just transition looming over our head. You got guns, you know, you got that coming through. You got Bill C-11 and different federal things that are trying to censor and everything else. You're like, we cannot lose the most independent province to someone who's going to go lockstep with what's going on.

Like it just to me, for all of Canada, everyone's looking at this going like, I don't know how many texts I've got saying they're praying for Alberta right now, hoping they elect the right people because, you know, it's like, well, look at where we're going to head real fast, real fast, if it goes the other way. Oh, absolutely. Where's the outrage? Like, I think, you know, there should be a ton of outrage right now. It's like when you talk about the carbon tax, it still blows my mind as a relatively new Canadian that enough Canadians like Justin Trudeau didn't lie about this.

He ran on this. That paying a tax will save the planet in one of the coldest countries on Earth where you are literally penalized. for driving your car and heating your home. What? Like, how? You know, I mean, I understand, for example, a syntax on cigarettes because you could choose to smoke or choose not to smoke. I can't choose to not heat my home.

I don't have that choice. Not to mention, Terek, you know, like, how does our food and everything get to where we are? We're not two feet from the store. we are one of the largest countries on the planet that operates in the coldest climate in the planet and all of our stuff is done by oh wait they went to Ottawa truckers

and what do they operate on and everything else so when you start taxing all of this what happens to everything it just keeps going up and up and up it blows my mind let's say I read comments on Twitter and folks in downtown Toronto will blame inflation on everything

but their own choices. So, oh, it's a global crisis, it's oil prices, it's the war in the Ukraine, it's supply chain disruptions. I'm like, no, you voted for this. You voted for a very large percentage of this. This is what you asked for. The fact that your real estate is wildly unaffordable, you voted for that too. You know, so it is, it is, it, it,

It just blows my mind that there's no self-awareness to voters in Eastern Canada of like, this is exactly what you asked for. You're getting it. So yeah, those things kind of blow my mind. That being said, going back to your first point, Sean, and talking about Alberta, the one thing that Daniel Smith in her closing remarks, and this is to me, I think the foundations of Alberta's politics. So left, right, put away all the budgets and the policy and all that political stuff. And I think we, all of us, need to do a better job and do this more and more.

There's a reason why I move to Alberta specifically, right, from every place in the world. And it was mobile at the time, no kids, nothing. Like, I can move anywhere. Is there are values that built this province. Alberta and Saskatchewan of this just sheer grit and perseverance and community. And we built communities in a very harsh landscape, extracted resources in an incredibly harsh environment, and did it and did it well and built an incredible society around it. And the reason why I moved out here to rodeo, right, and ride horses and very bled.

less to live the Western way of life every single day is those values of the West and you know if you sell it that way we're entrepreneurial we're independent minded we don't want the government telling us what we want to do um we've got to do that we've got to sell the Alberta brand and sell the Alberta value um and I say Alberta is the prairie right Alberta on Saskatchewan together and and and and to me like Premier Smith closed with that yesterday and I'm like yeah give me that oh she I was going to say her closing was was fantastic yeah like even uh you know what does she say with my faults or something like that you know she may even acknowledge some of her you know like I've made mistakes and I remember interviewing and say you know we need a politician that will just own some mistakes I don't think

any of us think you're going to be perfect right but when you make this mistake let's own up to it let's let's get moving along the thing. And you're right. I think I grew up in Saskatchewan. Now I live in Alberta. And I have a lot of love for both provinces. And a lot of that is to do with the people in them, you know. And, you know, you give them a problem.

They solve it. That's what they've done for, you know, since, you know, they became provinces. It's been nothing but solving problems. And you know what, Sean, if you have a problem, they'll show up for you. Like that's, that's the prairie spirit. If you've got a problem, they're showing up. Well, before I let you out of here, Terrick, we always end with the crude master final question. It's, well, now I'm wondering, you know, I haven't, somewhere there's been a question that, you know, maybe I haven't asked.

And maybe with it being a political run here for the next couple episodes, normally it'd be something else from Crudemaster. I'm wondering, is there maybe you can work with. me on this. Is there something I should be asking all the political people coming on as the final question with the upcoming election coming here and just, you know, however many days it is now, that would be a great way to end the show. I'm putting you on the spot because I'm trying to think of something with the Alberta election. So the basic one is you and the people around you get out to vote. Like legit, like that's the absolute bare minimum that you need to do. Again, I'll never tell you how to vote, but I will personally drive you to a voting station.

Like, you have to go out and vote. The second thing I would say is, is find out where you live and who's running in that area. Because, again, we never talk about individual candidates. We never do. And we do not operate on a popular vote. So unless you live in Brooks or you live in Edmonton-Srathcona, you can't vote for- Daniel or Rachel. You can't.

So find out who you. your individual candidate. So hopefully that kind of gives you an indication. So when you bring on guests or friends or so on, ask them. Do you know where you live? So what riding then for the crew master final question? Terrick, what riding are you in? And who is your candidates? How's that? Great question. So I live in Erdry East, which is a relatively new writing. So Erdry got split into two writings. And Erdry East, my current MLA is the incumbent Angela Piss. And I'm pit. She is an absolute badass. I've met her a couple of times, super down to earth. I always say like she should be like the minister of pickup trucks or something because like

she's just straight up Alberta grit. And I and I love that about her. But she's also very involved in the community, very involved in the community's infrastructure and what matters to the community. So whether that's EMS response times, the interchange on QE2, et cetera. She's kind of really involved that way. And then there's only two candidates on the ballot in this writing. And then the other one is Dan Nellis. He comes from the Alberta Teachers Association. So union guy through and through.

I don't think he'll have a chance. He'll get the union vote, which is a small vote here. And I love what you and especially two things about unions. And I very much in line with that process. crisis a vermin. Westjet's going to fly today. So, but, but, um, I can't believe we get to that point where, you know, one third of our aviation industry is going to shut down for the weekend. Like, what the fuck? Uh, you know, so, uh, like, like, I just, it blows my mind, Sean. So, so, so, um, so yeah, so those are the two

candidates in my area. Yeah, cool. I, it's, uh, I think, you know, like, I think we have, um, in Lloyd if I can't I'm not gonna rattle off all their names because that's terrible of me but we have a United Conservative we have NDP we have green we have an independent we have wild rose five I think we got five run it oh wow yeah and I and and if I knew the two ladies names better I would rattle them off but I'm actually trying to think if I know how to pronounce them so I know three I know I know I have this saved let's let's let's do this right away Sean if you're okay so I have this um um you could literally put in your postal code

and because we're alive you could text it to me so I don't actually say it out loud but uh I could tell you um who your MLA is so it's it's Garth Rosewell is our MLA okay and uh Matt Powell Matt Powell is the independent running Danny Hozak is the Wild Rose candidate. And then there's two women, one running for the NDP, one running for the Green Party. And right off the top of my head, I'm spacing on their names. But if you saw my post code come through in the chat there. And we'll pull it up.

I put you on the spot. You're putting me on the spot. I love it. I like it. I like it. You are in Lloyd. Do you know the name of your writing? Vermilion Lloyd Minster, Wainwright.

Okay, found it. So you've got Tigger Lee Campbell for the Green Party. You got Daryl Dunn. Daryl Dunn for the Alberta Party, right? And then Don Flata for the NDP. You make your decisions, but I'm not expecting an ex next name. Danny Hosak from, wow. Alvaros, Matthew Powell, and Garth Roswell.

So there you go. We got six running. Right? Six running. So it's, and they have two debates with the Chamber of Commerce here in Lloyd Minster as well. So, or actually I should correct that. One in Vermillion and one in Lloyd Minster, two different debates. But six different people putting their hat in the ring.

I mean, yeah, I forgot about Daryl Dunn. That's absolutely correct. Alberta Independence Party, right? Alberta Party? Alberta Independence. No, just Alberta Party. So that's the center party, right? Center.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it, regardless, you know, it's funny. I, like, I don't know why. I don't know if it's because it was not short notice. Everybody knew it was going to get dropped on May 1st for the most part, right? Like, we knew that was pretty much what was going to happen. I just, to me, I've, to the listener, I just, I'm almost tired of politics, Derek.

Is that possible? Like, I just... 100%. And that's what scares me about voter turnout. It is very high. I'm going to go vote. It's not that I don't want to vote. I don't know what talking to all six of those people

we just listed off for my area. Because I'm big on like, how do we... I look at it and I told the UCP folks this earlier. To me, the election was when Garth won. his UCP nomination for his for this riding as soon as he had that i i look at it and i go yeah and this isn't on guard this is on politicians in general i don't care what you say i care what you do and so that's going to be the test of time for the next four years until the the nomination comes back up for the ucp because for as long as the riding goes the way it is we both have

already talked about the impossibility of any of the other five candidates beating him is almost Correct. Zero. Exactly. I'm looking up your polling right now, and it's, yeah, it's a 99% chance for the UCP, right? So, and they probably just can't write 100% just because they probably can't, but that's about it. But, yeah. So, and it's a fairly new term for Garth, too. So he was elected in 2019.

Yeah, he's going into his second term. Okay. Yeah, so single terms. Yeah, he's been on the show once for sure. folks, it's been on the show once for sure. And, you know, like it was, you know, because of his group of people that I got to host, you know, the UCP debate, which we call the conversation or a roundtable, and that had five of the seven candidates who ran for, you know, UCP leadership. So you had Travis Taves and you had Daniel Smith and you had Todd Lowen and Rebecca Schultz

and Brian Jean, were the five that came to Vermillion. It was a ton of, like, fun. I guess, you know, as I start to learn more about politics and I stare at my riding, a thing I would tell everybody is like, once you understand how we vote, which is a 99% chance, it's going to be UCP, go out and vote for sure. But understand that our work begins about eight months ago, maybe longer than that, when we should be, and I've talked about Garth about this, is like, how do we make it exciting so that the UCP has the best five candidates, not saying he's not the one just that five people or three people or whatever it is run for that and we have an election on that because then you can actually get behind who it is to me that's the

election absolutely and interesting so in your district I was looking this up it's a 79% voter turnout like that's pretty decent that's pretty good and and Garth won it by 78% of the vote so well so yeah you can kind of feel where we lean out here can't you yeah no no no big government no you know like it's it's yeah yeah that being said um in our rural writings like we have to hold our conservative mlleys accountable to doing it right earning it 100 percent yeah we have to we have to find um you know uh i put a lot of pressure on myself in particular to you know that we we shine a spotlight on our representative not just Daniel Smith.

Yeah. Because if she doesn't get the support or whoever the premier is, you know, that's, that's what they're there. They're there to represent us. That's why we elect them, you know. It's just knowing how the, that's probably why I'm so like slow to the uptake. Because I hear about Calgary all the time. Like, what can I do about Calgary other than have a few different people on to talk about

it and encourage people to get involved, you know, in door knocking and different things? And there's a ton of people doing that. So it's like, I don't know. I'm talking myself, you know, I'm trying to, you know, give myself a pat on the back, which I guess I'm not trying to do. But, you know, it's like, you know, the more you learn about this, Terrick, once you start to understand where the pressure points are, it's the pressure points that we have to talk about a lot and well in advance

so that people know about it, you know? Yep. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the biggest thing, Sean, I think you can do is keep doing what you're doing because you have pretty deep reach across the province. and just getting people out and energized is a big deal. So you're ahead more than most, I will say. Oh, I appreciate that.

Well, and I appreciate you coming on this morning and doing this. I look forward to Tuesday mashup election coverage because Terrick is going to be one of our guests on there. We got a solid lineup coming. We were trying to have you come to Lloyd, and that, well, I would have twisted your arm myself. I was looking forward to having the cowboy hat in studio. But it sounds like we got Tim Mowen coming as well as Tews and Dustin.

My brother Dustin going to be in a little bit of a roundtable format. So live in studio kind of banter a little bit and we'll see how that goes. And then of course we got yourself and a whole list of characters going to be on. And I mean a list of characters. It should be a lot of fun to sit and see how the easy. evening proceeds and you know look forward to that Terrick either way thanks for giving me some time this morning no thank you sir all right folks that was Terrick Elnaga Elnaga I think it was Elnaga you know Terrick's probably laughing in

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