Shaun Newman Podcast - #444 - Dan Hartman

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

Dan aka "Answers4Sean" is a truck driver who lost his 17 year old son in 2021 just 33 days after receiving his 1st dose of Pfizer. Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500 SNP Presents: Luongo & Krainer https://www.showpass.com/snp-presents-luongo-krainer/ Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast

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He's a truck driver who lost his son after taking the Pfizer shop back in 2021. He was only 17 years old. Talking about Dan Hartman. So buckle up. Here we go. Hi, everyone. This is Dan Hartman, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.

Today, I'm sitting with Dan Hartman. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Now on Twitter I've certainly had your story shared with me a little bit in saying that if you're not on Twitter or you know maybe you just haven't been in that circle Dan I thought maybe you could just tell us a little bit about yourself and and long or short and tell us the story of Sean but maybe just first a little bit about yourself so people can get a feel for who they're listening to. Okay. I've been a truck driver for 18 years. I love my job. Well, at least I did. And I have a fiancé that is helping me very much with what's going on by my side every single day. And we just bought a brand new dog. And he's quite a healer. He's really helping me.

What type of dog did you go with? He's part pit, part mastiff. He's a big boy. Oh, yeah. And Dan, where do you call home? Where do you hang your hat? Ontario, Canada. Sitting over here in Alberta and my father being a former long haul truck driver, what part of Ontario? Where, I'm just kind of curious in Ontario.

I guess the closest major place would be Barry. Oh, okay, okay, fair enough. And then when you talk about truck driving, you know, like out here in the west, you know, well, we got a lot of them. I mean, it doesn't matter where you go in Canada or maybe even in Western civilization for that matter. There's a lot of truck drivers. They pretty much make

the economy run as everybody knows. But what specifically? Because out here, you know, the oil field's huge, but that isn't the only thing. Obviously, there's a lot of different industries. And I grew up riding with my father, you know, he did

long haul. So he went across to the first ever Blue Jays game I ever got to see was riding in the, you know, shotgun or in the bunk, you know, going from Alberta all the way to Ontario. You can imagine that drive. You've probably done it. But what specifically, what are you moving? Just general freight everywhere.

I cover usually northern Ontario, Sudbury, North Bay, Huntsville. That's my route. Ever since I lost Sean, they let me go up north every day, so I don't have to deal with traffic and stress. just it's nice there's open roads gives me time to think too much time really but yeah well let's hear a little bit about Sean in the story you know I can see that the the picture off to your left shoulder I guess the audience while they're watching will be off to the right there but as long as you want to go Dan please share share the story of you know Sean and and and

And what happened? Well, hockey was my son's passion and love. He played it all his life since he was first able to play. And to continue to play hockey, he had to be vaccinated with a COVID vaccine. And needles were Sean's biggest fear in the whole world. He was terrified of him. But he ended up taking one shot of Pfizer on August 25th, 2021. He went to emergency four days later.

He had brown circles around his eyes and vomiting and a rash and extreme pain in the opposite shoulder of his injection shoulder. The doctor there failed to do any blood work. He didn't do a de-dimer test, a troponin test. He just sent him home with the medical equivalence of Advil for his shoulder pain. 33 days after Sean received his first Pfizer shot. On September 27th, 2021, Sean was found dead on the floor beside his bed. They did an autopsy. I had to wait three long months to get results for that.

But I finally got the results, and the cause of death is unassertained. They don't know why he died. They can't tell me why he died. When this is all going on, are you drawing the connection to the, vaccine or you just you have no idea as well or you just like it was so evident um during this time right from the beginning i thought it was because sean was perfectly healthy and had no underlying conditions so i had a gut feeling it was the vaccine did you i apologize you know it's it's it's interesting to have a father on and this story this is like this i don't know what to

there's no words on this side as you know Dan that they're gonna so I apologize in advance for digging a little bit but I really want my audience to and people whoever they listen to this you know so many of us don't get to ask questions so what did the doctors say I assume you asked you like this isn't normal like what what is going on could it be the vaccine I assume you had all these conversations yes and even And in the actual autopsy, there's a section for doctor's notes, the doctor from emergency. And he even wrote in there, query vaccine reaction. So he himself was asking, is this a vaccine reaction?

Yet still didn't send him for any blood work. I tried to file a complaint with the CPSO against this doctor, and they found him not guilty. I mean, he could have done two simple blood tests, looking for heart damage or blood clots, and he didn't. I'm not saying it's the doctor's fault. Sean died, but in my opinion, he didn't do his job. I don't know. Have you been paying attention to the National Citizens Inquiry, the different testimonies that have come through there, Dan? Yes, I testified there. Of course you did. It's funny. I look at all of this so much from a media perspective, right? Because at the start of this, the podcast was talking, you know, and audience members have heard this story lots. While they were along for the ride, I was talking to, you know, hockey guys, you know. So when you talk about your son being a huge hockey person, I think he's like a lot of Canadian kids and I was one of them. And so, you know, in the the middle of COVID or you know in roughly around the time you know you said

August 25th is roughly about the time I start literally start talking to different doctors and in the National Citizens Inquiry the reason I bring it up is I look at media and how complicit they were and not doing their job you know you talk about it the doctor didn't and once again I apologize if I'm butchering the words but you didn't you said you didn't think the your doctor didn't kill him but he didn't do his job there was a lot of that that went on over the course of leading up to this. This has been, well, geez, we're going on almost two years.

Have you gotten any answers? Well, my son's tissue samples are now with Dr. Ryan Cole in America. There isn't any Canadian pathologist doing the tests necessary to find vaccine death, which is staining tissue samples and looking for spike in the body where it shouldn't be. Dr. Cole has agreed to help me and I'm very confident he's going to tell me the vaccine killed Sean. I had a father and a daughter on another vaccine side effects. She was playing hockey, goaltender and, you know, thankfully, you know, they're on the road to recovery. but the similarities are there and certainly the fact they had to go to an American doctor is I don't even know if I have the words I can't I can't put myself in your shoes or their shoes all I can do is like sit here and go how do we make it better in Canada certainly talking openly like this about it yes but you know I'm I don't know I'm I don't know

No, Dan, I look at you and I just go, you must have some thoughts on it. Well, I do. I think everyone should start to speak up. Anyone who's had any type of injury, whether it's your child or your cousin or your brother, just speak up because it's not supposed to be happening. They said it was safe and effective. They lied. Pfizer tried to hide documents for 75 years.

They lied. I don't know what it takes to wake people up. How do you trust something that they put out in months? instead of five years of testing, of course people are going to die, but they won't admit people are dying. That's the problem. They just will not admit it. I just want the truth. If it was the vaccine, I understand that people die with any, there's risk with any medication. Just tell me the truth. And it's very strange that Canadian pathologists aren't doing the tests that Dr. Cole is doing to find the cause of death. I cannot live with you. I cannot live

with unassertained. It's my son. I applied to the vaccine injury support program of Canada. I made a claim, and they denied me. They said there's no proof the vaccine killed shot. I said to the woman

on the phone, you guys don't have any proof that it didn't. The cause of death is unassertained. How do you come up with denying me when you cannot prove it didn't kill him? It's not up to me to prove it. I'm not a pathologist, but yet they denied me.

And now I've appealed, and we'll see what happens. That's coming up. I don't even know what to say. You know, to the audience, when I got suggested bringing you on, I'm like, this is going to be, like I don't mean to sit here. Like, I just got three young kids, you know, two of them, boys, a little girl. And I was very, very, very, very, very, very, I can tack on as many verries as you like, Dan, that they were under the age where we had to worry about this.

And we just didn't have to, you know, at the time, you know, two years ago, they were five and younger. And I never thought it would ever get to the point where they pushed it on children. I, you know, like I just, you kind of had this optimism like, it'll get better, you know. And instead, it just kept getting worse, kept getting worse, kept getting worse. kept getting worse. And I don't need to tell you that, and I don't need to bring you all the way back into it. Because I can't imagine, I don't know.

I mean, at this point, what would it take for Dan to feel better? The truth. Just admit to me that it was. Stop pretending it wasn't because I know in my heart it was. And Dr. Cole is going to prove that it was. And then there's still going to be people who deny me. Just tell me the truth that unfortunately the vaccine killed. Sean and maybe I can start to grieve properly because I haven't had a chance to grieve.

I took three weeks off work and I had to go back. The government doesn't pay you to sit at home and I've been doing the Twitter page ever since. I haven't even really had a chance to grieve Sean properly. The first, the three weeks I took off work. That's not even enough to get over the shock of it. And I've been fighting for Sean and never else ever since. I think they murdered my boy and I want justice somehow. My boy's gone.

The most important kid. The most important person in my life he's such a good boy. And they took them from me. I only wanted one thing in my life to be a dad when they took it. I think I can speak for the audience, Dan.

You know, one, if this was in person, we'd all give you a big hug. because no man should ever have to do that or see that or experience that. And like I said at the start, I don't know. I honestly don't know what to say. The floor is yours, you know? You want to touch people.

You want to reach out to anyone who listens to this, which is doctors, which is lawyers, which is, you know, business folk, which is journalists, etc. there's a whole bunch of different people on the West that listen to the show. And I don't even know what to ask you because every time I, like I opened my mouth, I feel like I sound stupid. No, you know, like... It's hard, Sean. No one knows what to say to me. It's just the support of all the people I've met on Twitter is amazing. I got to meet you.

I mean, Twitter has done good things for me. I just want people to speak up. I want doctors to stop being at first. If you know something's wrong, speak up. They can't fire all of you. We need doctors. Like, it's time to talk. Let's just talk about it.

I mean, if this is a vaccine that should have been pulled off to market and it's not, then we have an issue. There's something going on here. It doesn't take a scientist to figure that out. There's 17,000 reported deaths or something now on bears. And then people say, well, that doesn't. mean it's true well it doesn't mean it isn't what if half of them are true that's why many deaths the thing is is you're not going to get any arguments from me

we know we know that uh listen we know that uh i just had edward dowd on and edward dowd on and edward dowd did the full-on you know i don't know how many more reports i need to see of like the implications of what's going on they're saying 330 000 uh dead americans from the vaccine between the ages of 16 and 64 the working that that's what they focused on right so like to me we all if we take just a moment just a couple of seconds and think about it know at least one person who's had a vaccine side effect yeah and so there has to be some psychological like something that's holding everybody back uh certainly media doesn't want to talk about it right but we we already know how complicit they are on everything.

I mean, like, just go watch the National Citizens Inquiry and listen to a couple of people that spoke there from within the media. And you'll be like, holy dinah. Like we thought, but I mean, they lay it out. You're like, okay. I mean, we have how many doctors that talk about, you know, everything, how they were, you know, it's like, it's just right there. We've had a bunch of them on the show.

You can go find them pretty much anywhere. It's not at all this big, they paint them like their conspiracy theories. But I mean, at this point, it's almost like, well, tack a conspiracy theory on me. It's a badge of honor at this point because at the end of the day, we're all seeing it. Yeah. You know, this is what I want to, you know, for the audience, we've had just, and I'm sure maybe they've heard it, maybe they haven't. We've had a couple audio difficulties. It seems to be a running theme on this side of the world, you know, for the last little bit.

You're not the first and certainly, I assume you won't be the last when we do things, you know, across the, the the the internet anyways I wonder Dan if we couldn't talk to there's people that don't want to see this they want a conspiracy they want you know they're fearful of losing their job they're all that actually maybe you could speak directly to me and I know you have been but I I'm a I'm a guy who for a year was like a dog on a bone I talked nothing but COVID I didn't drop it until Ottawa and then Ottawa I went to Ottawa and interviewed a bunch of people and you know and came back and it took a lot out of me.

That year took a lot. And I've been finding, you know, I have to talk about a few different things. Otherwise I go into like the world is very heavy. And saying all that, I hear your story and I go like, I sit here and I go, man, maybe I'm doing a disservice by all these people who are fearful to speak up because I saw. certainly offer a platform to allow people to share their thoughts. What would you say then to maybe me or to the group of people that have been pushing as hard as they can go, but maybe I'm going to use the word relaxed, even though I'm having you on and it's not like I've relaxed that much? Just keep going. I know it's so hard. Believe me, I know. But I think we're slowly getting somewhere.

I think there's a lot of people waking up now. And we couldn't do it without people like you, Sean. We just couldn't. I mean, it's silenced everywhere. I'm silenced everywhere on the internet except Twitter. My friend posted my son's obituary on Facebook, and it got removed. Just his obituary. Nothing about vaccines or anything.

Just his obituary, Facebook took it down. We need people like you. It's the only way we can get our word out. This is my truth. I'm not lying. I know people call me a liar and say, it wasn't the vaccine, Dan. Well, prove to me it wasn't. I challenge anyone on this planet to prove to me it wasn't. And if they can, I'll shut up. But nobody can prove it. One of the top pathologists in North America did his autopsy and couldn't find a cause of death. Very strange. Healthy 17-year-olds don't just die in their sleep.

I've had so many doctors tell me that. We have to just keep questioning the truth and fighting on until we get it. This censorship thing is it bothers me to my core. Me too. Because, you know, what you just said, like, I don't even, like, that's almost going to leave me speechless. That, the fact your son's name, right, that that's exactly what you said is now getting you censored. It's in the algorithm and they equate it to

vaccine skeptic, vaccine anti-vax, whatever it is, just by posting an obituary of a kid. Think about that. That's absolutely heartbreaking. Oh yeah. It's terrible. I don't get it. Well, I do get it. Truth gets hidden. That's my new

motto. That's my new thing now. Truth gets hidden. It always does. They're trying their best to hide the truth. We're not a bunch of wackos telling stories. They're so many thousands of people that are hurt from this vaccine there's there's thousands that are dead from it they stop the swine flu vaccine after 52 deaths i think there's been more than 52 and it just keeps

going and going it's some kind of evil going on here i don't get it well here here's a here's a story um i guess there's some type of evil you know i think there's this old reporters and name's Byron Christopher at Eminton, crime beat reporter. Blood and guts, like Armageddon Crime Reporting is his kind of moniker. And he tells it like it is. And he's, I think he's 72 anyways. He was on stage at one of my shows in Eminton. And he got to go over to Auschwitz. Well, when people were still alive, and I know there still are a few, but like the townspeople that live near Auschwitz. And he was asking a lady and doing his reporting and talking, talking to him and they talked about how they all knew Jews were dying in

in Auschwitz and he said well did you speak up and she's like no like I had a job and I was fearful of not of being killed of talking out but of like how would I provide for my family if I didn't if I talked out and that story is stuck with me for you know since I heard it because I'm just like you know we all talk about World War II and you know the the went across the sea and, you know, got these atrocities and got Hitler and got all these bad people and everything else. But when you hear the on the ground of just different people, don't have to put a, why didn't you stop it? It wasn't because of fear of being shot in the head or what have you.

It was, or being put in the prison. It was, well, if I talked, you know, I lose my job. And if I lose my job, how will I feed my family? And one of the things, you know, when I hear that, you know, I feel like, believe me, I feel like we all went through that moment in COVID where you're like, am I going to lose my job? Am I going to like this is. And now I would say at this point, you know, certainly if you're a doctor, maybe, I can't sit here and say what's going to happen to you.

I have doctors who are friends who are pretty tough for opening their mouths. In saying that like at this point, I don't think people understand that are still fearful of that. how many opportunities would come if they would just open their mouth, start talking openly, because there's a ton of businesses that are just eager for that type of person. And yet they're trapped in their own world, I would say. Yeah. It's very scary that you could lose your job, your home, your car,

having food on the table just for speaking. Could you just imagine how many thousands of people want to speak right now. And I mean, I know two doctors personally that other license were taken away. Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. Phillips for speaking about their opinion on the vaccine. Well, when you go to a doctor, he gives you his opinion. But no, you speak about that vaccine. They take your license away. A doctor hasn't had a blemish on his record in 40 years lost his license. And he had two shots. He's had two. but now he sees what's going on, speaks up, they take his license away.

It's just corruption. It's unreal. You know, I hate to laugh, but it's just so, like, we're so far into this now. It's insane. You see the level of it, and you're like, I don't know, what more needs to happen, you know? Daniel Smith just won in Alberta, which I assume you know. Yeah. But, like, the level of hatred throwing her way in media, just alone, you know,

and people thinking she is whatever she is not, was wild to watch. Was wild to watch. And, you know, will she get everything right? Certainly not. But one of the things that gives me real hope, Dan, is on the day Jason Kemp, you know, On the day Jason Kenny here in Alberta said it's a pandemic of the end vaccinated. She was on this show. And we were talking about it.

Like this is, this is insane. She did, I do live events called SNP Presents. And she did the first one ever live on stage with a doctor, a lawyer, and a politician who I guess is still an MLA. And I guess she ended, she was my media side of it, who eventually announced that she was run for Premier and now you get it and that gives me real hope that there will be answers and saying that and saying that it's people such as yourself that come on here that to share your story that really light the fire again of like we got to make sure that she does it and two that when they come for when and they

will because we just watched it play out for her election when they come for that everybody's standing up saying no more of this. Because if we don't get to the bottom of this and get the answers that everybody needs like yourself, I don't know what this does to, well, I don't know, maybe you can shed a light on what does this do to a father who doesn't get the answers? It's just so devastating.

I can't even put it into words how bad it hurts. I need the answers, or I might as well be dead, because this isn't life I'm living, this is just pure pain, and without the answers, I can't move on. I can't go the rest of my life having people say, how'd your son die, Dan? And I say, I don't know, it's unacertained. I can't do that. Just tell me the truth. That's all I've ever asked for, answers for Sean. I get people who say to me, why are you saying it's the vaccine that killed them?

And then I say to them, like, it's called answers for Sean. I don't have the answers. It's my opinion that it did. Am I not allowed to have my opinion anymore? Our opinion's not allowed anymore. Like, the trolls who bugged me, like, why do you keep saying it was the vaccine? Because that's what I think it was. When you talk about trolls, do you think they're real people,

or do you just think it's the algorithm out to really try and cause you some pain? Well, people say they're bots. They're not real people. I can't wrap my head around that concept. I think they are real people because I go look at their page and they don't have many followers and they don't follow many people. But I think there's people that are so wrapped up in this vaccine thinking that it's the most amazing thing ever made that they just can't see the light.

They get so mad at the people who didn't want to take it. And imagine if we did that to them, just went up to, went on their page and said, why did you take it, you idiot? We don't do that. We just didn't want to take it.

We're the people who didn't want to take this vaccine. And everyone gets so mad about it. Nobody gets that mad about a flu shot. It's crazy. I am going to get, I, to me, they're bots.

I like if they don't have if they don't if they don't have a falling if they're not falling anyone yeah there there might be one person behind it but even then it's it's one person running 18 accounts just trying to inflict pain and chaos in my mind I am I try really hard not to engage with any of that on social media because it it it takes over my life Dan that's just for me speaking for me you know uh but when I hear hearing you say it like that. I wish you that, I think a lot of people will pray for you that you just, you let that that part of it go because that part of it is

like that, don't worry about that. I tried. It's hard. I mean, my dad always fight back. So when they start insulting me and my son, I just, I get so pissed off. And I, but I, I said to my fiance yesterday, I got to stop. I'm not going to engage with them anymore because they make me mad. So. Yeah, and what, you know, what you're doing, like this, this, this right here is going to hint people, right? Like, this right here is going to hint, well, I guarantee in the first day a thousand.

That's what I'll guarantee you. I don't know after that, you know, it's just like, where does it go from that? Real people that are going to care, that are going to hear your story and actually care. That Twitter thing where the bots come at you and they say silly things, you're like, even if it is a real person, they're sitting there on Twitter, harassing a guy. who lost his son in the middle of COVID. I know. Even if they are a real person,

I'm going to tell you father and father, don't give that person the time a day. Because, I mean, that's beyond low, if it is a real person. To me, I lean on bots because I've seen them in action. You see them all the time in action, just trying to, you know, to act like they're a thousand people. When, in fact, you know, a whole lot of us don't think that.

There's still lots of good people on this planet. 100% agree. You have a give-s-and-go. If people are so inclined, what can you tell us about the give-seng-go so we can make sure that people can help support or if there's any other places you'd like to direct them, by all means, obviously if you're on Twitter,

answers for Sean, you can look you up and follow you there. But is there other ways people can support or things you'd like to let them know about? just keep supporting me on my interviews. It's very important to spread the word. My gift and go was created for me at first by a vaccine organization. Just wanted to help me. They didn't want anything to do with it.

But then they wouldn't let it be processed because it was about that. So my fiance ended up making one for me. It's so I can hopefully take a leave. of absence from work to actually grieve Sean. I only took three weeks off and it wasn't enough. And I just want to sit home and cry, basically. That's what I want to do. Going to work every day, a truck driver, I'm alone in the truck with my thoughts every day.

It sucks. There's so many times I'm thinking about him and crying while I'm driving. I just, I haven't really had the chance to grieve Sean. That's the honest truth. I went back to work three weeks. That's not enough for losing your child. But I can't stay home. They don't pay you to stay home.

And Twitter's the only thing I got because everyone else silences me. I rely on Twitter and people like you. People won't let me tell what really happened. Sean died 33 days after a vaccine. That's a fact. Nobody can argue that. It's the truth. So how am I being labeled as mis-since? being labeled as misinformation.

I don't have the information. This cause of death is not ascertained. I'm tired of crying every day, being on antidepressants. It sucks. I just want the truth. It's so hard to live without him. He was such a good kid. With the sample you've sent to the States,

what's the timeline on something like getting answers from that? he's saying it'll be very soon he already found some things that he wants to get a second opinion from Germany just to make sure he's correct about what he's found so that's all I know right now

but to say he has found something tells me you know that there's something not right there's something not right but I just want the truth tired of this fight every day for almost two years now.

It's literally killing me. The pain is just so unreal. It's hard to deal with. I just want the truth. Just tell me why Sean died. Has it been, I don't know, reliving it? I don't know the way to put it,

but has been coming on things like this been difficult, you know? Like, I'm like, I feel, you know, like, when I remember a lady, Judy Reeves who survived the perfect storm back in the 90s. A lot of us probably remember the film with the, what was it, George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg, The Perfect Storm, and the Andrea Gale.

She was on a boat in that storm, a boat, I think it was like 100 miles south, but in 100 foot waves with no steering and, you know, thought she was going to die and, you know, and when I asked her about it, you know, 20 years later, it just pulls a rate back into that. And, you know, you mentioned, the chance to grieve. And I wonder, just curious your thoughts, if doing this has been therapeutic,

or is this like really, really, really difficult to come back on to another show, have somebody who doesn't know the full story, let you explain it all, ask questions, is that painful, or are you at least happy to know that more people are going to be exposed to the information not it's it's it's both shot i'm extremely happy for these chances it really hurts talking about it every time it's like opening an old wound but it does help i think it does the people who support me are so kind and keep me going let me fight another day with all the encouragement i get i i couldn't do this alone my fiance thank god is with me but The help of all the good kind people, it really makes a difference.

I've wanted to give up so many times. I've wanted to call in work and say, I quit. I'm not coming in and just lay in my bed. But I get up every morning and do what I got to do and come home and continue this fight for people and for shot. Well, I can safely say on this side, sir, and I admire that because I think if you just lay in bed, the answers will not come. Think of how far, you know, just by not letting it go. No, we're not letting this one go.

We cannot let this one go. By you doing what you're doing, you have to understand that your opening eyes and that you've now approached an American, maybe this is happening all over the place, folks, I don't know. But it's the first I've heard of somebody sending tissue. I think a tissue, correct? Yeah. To an American doctor.

I've heard of different stories with the Americans, but this is the first I've heard of it. and I'm sure my listeners may have heard of a different story, or maybe not. But like, your, you know, I don't think, well, I can guarantee this. Nobody would wish this on any man or woman. But the fact you won't let it go and the fact you continue to fight and the fact you will, you know, continue to enter this realm and these arenas and come and share your story is, well, I admire that.

very deeply. And the fact you're a truck driver, I got all the time in the world for the truck drivers of Canada. And I told you off the hop where my father's, uh, you know, his, his ability to drive a truck, I, you know, I'm sure you got talent. I always say he's got to be one of the most talented drivers out there. But, you know, he's in stiff competition with all of you folks across this great country. Either way, you got to know that if you lay in bed, none of this happens. And so by getting up every single day marching on, entering the difficult conversations, I really hope, and maybe I should change that word to, I really will pray, that you get the peace you need to move on at some point. Because, you know, I, there's probably some psychologist

out there, somebody who knows the brain and everything else better than I can. But that has to be beyond difficult to go back through over and over again now for almost two years. Yeah. I have to. This fight's the only thing I have. They've taken everything for me. This is all I have left is the fight for Sean. I want him to be proud of me.

I hope he's watching. And I want him to know his dad is fighting as hard as he can for him. Because I know the vaccine killed my son. No one in this world can convince me different. They try, but I know it did. I'm curious. Was six in behind you got the picture of him? What position did he play?

Defense. I enjoy that. Defenseman myself. Number six, was there a reason behind it? I'm not sure. He never really said anything about why number six. I guess it's just a favorite must have been his favorite number. I know it got changed one year, but then he went back to six.

So I guess he just likes six. I don't know. It's interesting. I, you know, players in their room, their numbers and everything else. I always wanted four as a kid and it just never worked out. It's just like it literally never, yeah, Bobby Orr. What kid playing D doesn't want to have number four? And yet you get six kids fighting all over it and you never get it.

And you just, you never get it. You know, number six has a place with a lot of, where I'm from, our hometown, a place and a lot of kids' hearts there because Wade Redden. Wade Redden came from there and obviously played for the Ottawa Senters. You know, sticking with your son, who is his favorite team? The Leafs. Ooh. I know.

But he could laugh at them too, which was good. He was able to laugh at them. Do you like the, do you like, you know, just switching the subject slightly. Do you like what the Leafs have done with hiring treats? living. I vowed when Sean died, I would never watch hockey ever again, and I haven't. Hockey, in my

mind, is partly responsible for killing Sean by mandating that stupid poison. For kids that had no chance of dying, I haven't even heard of a child who died of COVID. And hockey forced him to get it. He never would have got it. He was terrified of needles.

This is his biggest fear. He got it. to play the game he loved. Now, I don't know if the government forced the hockey leagues to do it, or if it was their decision, but I can't like hockey ever again. It just hurts to even watch it

because I think of Shaw. And it bugs me that they mandated. I wish the Leafs well, but I won't watch it ever again. You're wearing an answers for Sean T-shirt. Are you selling those at all? Can people buy them, or is it just something specific to you? I had someone who was making sure, for me, but that fell through, so I'm looking for anyone else who wants to help me with that.

Because I've had people ask me. I've had lots of people ask. I'd love to get another t-shirt maker, get it going. Well, there you go, audience. If there's somebody out there, probably the easiest way to reach Ochi is Twitter, I assume, or if somebody text me, can I share your email address? Is that all right? Yeah, okay, yeah. Okay. Well, there you go, audience. We have the, we have the, we have the the mandate there. If somebody's interested in, well, then you never know. Maybe nothing comes of it, Dan, but maybe something does come of it. You never know, right? So finally, I guess I just, you know, I feel like, you know, I say this round to round, but we have the final question

brought to you by Crude Master. It's you're going to stand behind a cause and stand behind it. Absolutely. What's one thing Dan stands behind? Love and truth. I love Sean. on words. And truth, I always tell Sean to be truthful, to be respectful. So love and truth will get you through this world, this world of evil. Well, sir, I hope to hear in the coming days that the American doctors have, not that it's good news, but news that can give you some peace of mind. Because I think two years to go where you don't have no answers is two.

you know, one day's too long, let alone two years. Yeah. I appreciate you coming on and giving me a little bit of time and doing this. I really do. And, you know, I wish I was, you know, I wish I had the reach of the CBC or something, you know, that they could really get it on everybody's doorstep and saying that people need to hear these stories. And it is, you know, as difficult it is it is to sit here and try and navigate it.

I can't imagine being on the opposite side and having to relive it every time you hop on. But either way, I appreciate you coming and doing this. Thank you so much, Sean. There's people like you who keep me going as well. Give me a chance to tell my truth. All these big media people have been asked to talk to me. They just ignore me. Not one word from any of them.

They're never going to come in it. And I'm not lying. I'm not spreading false information. I'm telling the truth. it's people like you that give us a chance to talk you're very appreciated Sean thank you that one's gonna toy with me for that you know one of the things

that I just don't understand and I've had different journalists and people talk to me about it but that's tough because when you have somebody you know and I've had my own moments where people have reached out and I'm like ah do I want to talk I don't know but then I have to check myself and go

but the whole point is to let people talk and like to hear their stories and to listen to them and and you know go oh that wasn't good or that what but never to edit out anything to allow the audience to come along for the ride and and for them to hear from their seat what I'm hearing and to make things and you you what you just said again really bothers me because you know one of the things that really shocked me on my way to Ottawa that I don't know if I've ever come to terms with is I didn't see any CBC reporter like the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life wasn't Ottawa I mean Ottawa is great don't get me wrong but it was the highway to Ottawa oh yeah the bridges

the bridges the like eight o'clock at night it's minus 30 something and the people just still waving flags every you know like it just utter insanity in the best possible way you you've seen the videos of it and yet none of it comes from mainstream and you're like if you're sitting at desk and mainstream? At what point do you finally just go, I just got to go see. You just got to go see. Let's just see what it is. I wonder what they're thinking all the time.

These people at these mainstream media stations, like, they must be thinking, okay, well, maybe this is true. But they're too scared to go tell their boss? I don't know. Well, thanks again for doing this, Dan. Oh, sorry, if you have another thought, by all means. I don't mean to cut it off. No, that's okay, Sean.

Thank you so much. having me. It really means a lot to me. Well, you have my contact now, and if there's ways we can help, we'll certainly try. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Sean.