Shaun Newman Podcast - #449 - Brother's Roundtable

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

The Brothers are back at it for week 9 of the NHL Playoffs. Vegas Stanley Cup Champions, TSN 1260 no more and a rundown of all 32 teams for the final Brother's Roundtable. Recorded June 15, 2023. Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Let me know what you thinkText me 587-217-8500

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I'm joining back in studio for the final Brothers Roundtable of the playoffs. Obviously, Stanley Cup Finals now over. Well, boys, we were all, well, I weren't saying we were all wrong. Dust did pick Vegas, baby. Vegas to... Did we pick him at the start? No. No.

Did anybody get either the finalists at the start? No. No. No. No. So you're just listening to a lot of BS folks. I did pick a team that gave Vegas the best. And you were wrong.

You had Stone for the MVP and you. It was Marcheuxel. Which I picked Marsa Sol if I would have went with Vegas. I picked the team. Really? I picked the team that gave Vegas the hardest round in all the playoffs, which was the Emmington Oilers. Uh, true.

Um, just, just side note though, I did win both my drafts. So I feel really good about that one, $600 by, not taking money's nothing. You won the Don's Cup. And I also won the Don's Cup and buried my brothers. Yes. So it's true. I had a lot of fun doing it though. That was a great draft.

You know what? Owen had so much fun. He wants to be in his own team because he doesn't like my picks, which is fine. I think he probably smart. Next year we got an 11 year old. Yeah, why not? Actually, I got a great story about Owen. I don't know if I've told you guys this.

So I taught him chess He was awful for the longest time And I had to sandbag it and I made fun of him all the rest of it Started chess club at school He ends up winning chess club And I'm like you know he's getting pretty good Like I was watching him play and I'm like he's he's thinking it out Anyhow I played him the other day

And I straight up he straight up beat me Like I was trying And he straight up beat me Not saying much dust Well maybe not but he's 10 and I'm like It does actually say quite a bit about dust That says a lot about him I think I don't know where to go from here

because now that he's beat me at 10 straight up I'm like no no no now now what happens dust is at work right because you don't do a lot anyways you start working on your chess game that's right I might have to start playing chess in the afternoon I might have to do it okay just reading up on you're ready to go again you know what I need to talk

What was a Netflix special about this was there not maybe you need to watch the Netflix special Queens Gambit I've really I've really thought about pulling a Homer Simpson and like flipping the game board and being like bye I retire I actually need to talk to dad about this because I remember being a kid

of beating him and I can't remember what age it was but I got good enough where I started beating dad and then eventually he stopped playing me but I don't know what age that was I don't know if I was 10 or if I was older or younger I don't know what the deal was like and Dustin wouldn't have been patting himself on the back

whatsoever no no I was pretty excited about that because that was my kind of thing back then and I look at Owen and I'm like well we did play a lot of chess under Mr. Miller It is interesting and Mr. Miller was your grade 5 grade 6 teacher around that era Owens grade five. So maybe that's actually when you're the smartest at chess.

You know, it's interesting. Nobody was at Noonar hockey yesterday, and I just want to say that we finally got a W. Nice. And, you know, I'm not here. You know, I'll self-pat my, I played a great game dust. I played a great game. You didn't have me to walk around you? Is that what you're saying?

I'm injured right now. If you talked to Shezzi, like we did at lunch here today, it was all because of him. Right, the big trade, and Sammy's just torn. Wait, Chezzi got traded from our team over to your. yours. We were short guys. 13 on the whites and 8 on the blocks. I gave a bag of pox for him. It was an easy, it was an easy

trade. Yeah, you'd be happy with that win. All right, let's go on to NHL news here. What are you talking about? I'm just doing what good GMs do. I just made a nice trade, made fun of Sammy the entire skate, and it was perfect. Got the W, said, see you later.

There's a few highlights for me with Vegas winning. Oh, we're going to, we want to talk about Stanley Cup finals? Harley's leading the program. Bruins fans watching the team that led by their coach, they fired, pummel the team that knocked them out of the first round after the best regular season in NHL history, right?

That is interesting. The other thing, too, is, did anybody hear Phil Kessel talking after game? He's going to make sure. Yeah, about not puking? No, no, there's that. And then the other thing, too, was he said, takes me back to the Toronto days. You guys said I couldn't win and now I'm a three-time champ. Remember that?

And then stayed out away from the CBC or whatever, right? What a beauty. And Toronto's got zilch. Remember when they were making fun of them for eating hot dogs from his favorite hot dog? Wasn't it in Toronto? No, no. No, no. It was hot dog.

Yeah. A whoops. A whoops. Goaltending. Can we talk about goaltending for a minute? Like, did they not have their, what is it, third string in? Yeah, he would have been considered their third or fourth string at the start of the season, depending where you had Leonard.

And they just won the cup with him. Yeah. Like, isn't that crazy? It reminds me of Chris Osgan in Detroit. Probably the most, one of the best careers that is never looked at. And never really thought of the two-starters. Who did Chicago win with? Nehemi, Crawford.

Yeah, but Crawford was a starter back. Crawford was a starter. But Nehemi never really. really was. And they won with the Crawford wasn't an All-Star. But when you go

through the history of the best goal he's ever, Crawford wasn't at. No, but at least he was a legit starter during that time.

Niemi wasn't. The Emmy would be like Aden Hill. Remember that time that Philadelphia went to the final with like no-nameers for

goal? Oh yeah. That was in blue. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Like Chris Ponger was there. No, no, no.

No, no. The year that we went with Hartnell and lost in the finals to Chicago. Yeah. They had a no-name goal. They had two

no-name goalies and the starter got hurt and everyone's like oh now they're screwed and then the backup came in and he was fine and this is how i feel about vegas right now like what did they just do with a goalie that no one even heard his name before the season how about how about jonathan quick winning again not with l a not even like having a sniff he's got to retire now doesn't he on top yeah well yeah like what is the third cup for him or fourth la win two or three two i think two yeah so third cup you got to retire at this point don't you yeah well i don't know depends how much he loves playing phil castle wants he was pretty fired up though by l a trade them right so no no i realize he might have one more year then he turned around and want a cup like don't you just shut her down at that

point and seal over the sunset but phil castle they when they were interviewing him said he wants he loves playing so he said he probably won't be back to vegas because it just you know but he's hoping some team will sign him so is that a good signing for the oilers dust No. Can Phil Kessel score 25 Flanking Drysidal with Drysidels passes? He could flank McDavid and get 20 for sure. Well.

But there's a lot of guys that could. You could put Phil Kessel in your top six for probably league minimum. Does he get it downing? Like, I don't know. Where was he even played in Vegas' lineup? Third line? Yeah, third line. He scored, I think I've seen today,

he scored 14 goals through the regular season. He only played two games in the playoffs. So I'm not saying, but at 750 grand, For a regular season run, is he a guy worth having that can slot into your top six and play with a guy like McDavid and Hyman? He's a pure score. Here's a different question for you. Can you win the Stanley Cup without a top defenseman, elite defenseman?

I'm going to go through it. Now, before you answer, I'm going to run back through the last 15 years, Petrangelo, McCar, headman, headman, Petriangelo, Carlson, Latang, Letang, Keith, Doughty, Keith, Doughty, Chara, Keith, Latang, Lidstrom, Niedermeyermeyer. And what was that?

Those are the top demon. Actually, I wanted to go back when I was originally thinking, I was trying to think of who Carolina and Tampa Bay had back in the mid-2000s. Who was their top defensemen? So go back a little further. Carolina, who would have been the top team on that team?

I was back when Mark Recky was on that team and Rod Brindamore. Who was the top guy? Glenn Wesley? Maybe. That might be right. So the thing about that one Latang team is you go, if you looked at that defense, they had Latang who probably wasn't quite at the top of his game on the last cup.

And the rest of the defense was kind of shaky, but they had one line centered by McDavid, or by Crosby, one line centered by Melk. And aligned with Phil Kessel when he was more than he had three lines that could absolutely roll. Carolina Hurricanes a year. won the Stanley Cup. Cabberley, Brett Hedekin, Aaron Ward, Nicholas Walleen, Mike Commodore, Glenn Wesley. Who was their top demon out of those six? Well, the one who got, the one that got the most points was Cabberley and Hedekin. Caberley had 13 points.

But you wouldn't consider any of them number, you're not putting them in the same breath as Duncan Keith. You're not rolling out Caberley against the team's top line. They were just a very deep team. Yeah. You got to remember that year was a weird year because So Emmetton and Carolina met in the finals, and they were all like third place teams in each division that made the final four that year. So it wasn't none of the top teams made the finals. No, the Oilers were the eighth place team going on the playoffs. Eighth place, yes. Right.

And Carolina was down there too. Yeah. It wasn't like they were a top team. You know what I remember about that? Other than the Oilers losing is Doug Waite with a busted shoulder lifting the Stanley Cup to skate around the ice. Yeah, well, listen to the top guys on their team that year. Eric Stahl, Corey Stilman, Rod Brindamore, Justin, Winston, Justin, Williams, Matt Cullen, Mark Recky, Doug Wade, Ray Whitney.

That's a pretty good top night. Just not total superstars, but just deep and... All good hockey players. Not who you want to play. And then to go back to the Philadelphia Flyers, which Harley or Dust was talking about, their goaltending. The two goalies, they had three start in the playoffs, but Michael Layton played 14 games,

and Brian Boucher played 12, and Johann Backland played one. Yeah, he wasn't wrong. In the playoffs. Then were a couple of career backups. And actually, Backland probably came in just for... I just always remember that one because somehow they made the finals and you're like... Well, they were a great team that.

No, no, I realize that. All I'm saying is their goaltending was not elite by any stretch. Danny Breyer, Mike Richards, Claude Drew, Ville Lino, Chris Prunner, Scott Hartnell, Matt Carley, Simone Gagne, Gagne, Cimo Tiemann and Jeff Carter, James Van Riemdike, you know, Bray and Coburn. And all those guys in their young years, too, where there were really good hockey players. Yeah. Yeah, actually, when you say all those names, no wonder, they made it to where they did

with the goaltending they did. Yeah. Because they had enough to make up for it. Well, and that's maybe the case with Vegas, too. Yeah. Like, do you remember Aiden Hill just getting shell shock? But although, you know, Eminton did out shoot them 75 to 53 in the last two games and lost. Yeah.

I, I, when we were watching game three and, um, Bershua got hurt, I had like a shudder go through me because I thought Aiden Hill was a better goalie than Bresau. I remember being an Oylers fan and think of Bresorpe was amazing how fast he was, but he doesn't play this big, strong game, it's all quick and whatever. And the Oilers seem to pick those goleys apart. Like eventually they just, they just, you know, they find the holes. Aiden Hill is a monster of a man. He's a big guy. When he came in, he just seemed to calm everything down for Vegas. And, I mean, even to the final game, he just, I don't know, I don't know.

Like, whatever Vegas played in front of him, they might have been giving up more shots, but it wasn't like he was getting the pants deaked off him, right? They were all shots from afar, and he seemed like so calm and cool and collected. He didn't look like a four-stringer, right? You think of a four-stringer for the Oilers. Like, who is that even? So is that a springboard for Aiden Hill? Is he turned into the next Craig Anderson for the next 10 years as a,

Older goalie, he's now a starter in the league for the next five to ten years? Or is it a one and done? I go with goaltenders or voodoo, and I have no idea. Really? Like, he looks good, sure. He could. He could also, you know, fade into obscurity. I have no idea.

Let's pick on somebody different. So if you're the Toronto Maple Leafs that aren't totally happy with their goaltending situation. You're going to go from Samsonoff to Aiden Hill? No, but do they? So that's what I'm asking. This is a championship goaltender. Yeah, but they did that with Murray. They got Murray in from Pittsburgh.

No, no, no, but you're picking up Aden Hill. They picked up Murray after Murray had all them injuries and was garbage. They're picking up Aden Hill at the very pinnacle. Is he going to be at this pinnacle for the next three or four years and give the lease a chance to win? If you're the GM, Brad Travel Living, is that the guy? I'm just picking on one team there, but is that the guy? Corey Schneider. Was Juan Anderson?

I was one guy? or not Corey Schneider who's the who was the backup in Pittsburgh and then I ended up stealing the top job Matt Murray wasn't Matt oh yeah I'm Matt Murray that's right one year

there's one or two great years and then he had injury problems yeah and then we're wound up being up Aiden Hill is 27 years old right now yeah which sometimes for defensemen and goaltenders is the right age right right

like if you're the lease because the oilers already kind of set in goal but if you're the least where they want to win now. Do they go sign Aidan Hill, it's a free agent? Was he a free agent now? I believe he is.

No, let's just pull it out. I don't know what to do with goalies. I really don't. Well, he made the big move back in the senior days that it didn't seem to work out. He did. That was a coaching, coaching decision. Oh, my goodness.

How about this? The Oilers selected first round, our first overall in 2010, 11, 12, and 15. four players selected second overall in those years all have now won the Stanley Cup. Yeah, we shouldn't have taken McDavid. Ryan Murray's won the Stanley Cup? You've got Nuge, Al-Yacob and McDavid.

And then you've got Say Again, Landisg, Ryan Murray with Colorado, and Jack Eichel now. Aiden Hill is a UFA. As is Loran Brousswa, as is Jonathan. quick. Out of all those, probably Aiden Hills, the guy you probably go after. I'm just saying, I don't know if Aden Hill is the right fit if I'm Arizona, but if I'm a team looking to win now, is he a guy that comes and calms down the troops on a team that, you know, what about Carolina?

Both Frederick Anderson and Antirata are both UFAs. They've not got the job done. So am I looking at Aden Hill right now and saying, you know what? I'm bringing this guy in. We're ready to win right now. Sure. I will say about Carolina, though, is going into the playoffs with all the injuries he had. No one thought they make it past the first round, and they make the conference final.

What happened if they had Aiden Hill than that? No, maybe. What happens if they had Svetchnikov and T.V. T.V. Tavinen in their lineup. Fair. Yeah. But the Florida Panthers didn't go to over 20 shots in the first three games in that series. Is that true? That's true.

Because Rod Brindamore said, after game three loss, if you told me, that we kept them under 20 shots the first three games and didn't have a win. That hurts. I didn't realize that. You know, I was thinking about Stanley Cup final teams. I always look at the team that wins and who the captain is. And there's certain characteristics of a captain that wins in a Stanley Cup final that, you know, just a great leader. And I look at Vegas and Mark Stone.

I watched him throughout the playoffs, take the beatings, keep on battling, right attitude. He kind of fits that profile, doesn't he? Yeah, and I think we David fits that profile. Oh, I think so too. Absolutely. Give anything for the team. Without a doubt.

I think the others win next year, the year after. Next two years they win one. I think my call from a couple years ago to Winnipeg Jets is right down the toilet because they're talking about how they're blowing the team up. Which we could get into the 32 teams. Well, sure.

Well, before we do that, How about TSN 1260 down in Eminton? Well, along with... And I believe... Are they shut down all of the radio stations in? I don't believe all of them. They shut down six and they sold three. And they sold three.

And I believe it was... There was one or there was two or three sports stations that got shut down. One was Emmetton. One was Vancouver. Was it Vancouver? Yeah. What about Winnipeg? But I can't remember.

Just not making any money, losing money? The thing with Eminton. for me, I guess, is where they, I don't know, and obviously they shut down a lot more, right? But 630s was up for tender this year, right? And 630 wound up getting to be back the voice of the Oilers again, right? And the Oaks. Right. So your two major sports teams in Eminton, 630s ran with for 25 years.

And they got them again. And they got them again. And that only happened here like probably a month ago. so maybe there was a decision made for Emmington. I'm not saying about everybody else, right? Bell Media. If you were going after and trying to set it up as 1260 so that you could try and take over the Oilers

and then you don't get it, that's probably, you know, now you're waiting another seven years, right? Bell Media as the telecon company plans to significantly adapt how it delivers information. Bell is shuttering six radio stations across Canada, is selling three more with 1,300 positions and 3% of the company workforce. being cut. Wow. So what happens to some of the main guys off 1260? Well, I mean, like Jason Greger,

podcast? We can argue. It's funny. I had, I had asked Jason Greger, this is, how long ago was it since I interviewed him? At least three years ago, right? After the, after the show, I asked him, are you going to do a podcast? And he goes, why would I do a podcast? And I remember thinking, oh, you don't see it yet. Well, that's interesting, right? Like, I didn't, you know, I, I assumed he'd be okay, but it has a big conglomerate, all the advertising is moving away from those stations. Like nobody listened, like, you know, the biggest number one show out there for sports right now is what?

Spitting checklets. It's a podcast. Everybody's moving to this where you can get any, you know, and at the time I was just like, how can't you see that? And then it was a year later, him in Strudwick, Strudwick, started their podcast. And I went, oh, he is starting to catch on. So he'll land on his feet.

Like, Gregor, Gregor is going to be fine. You look at the morning show at 1260, though. Nielsen has already got a podcast. I assume they'll stick on with that. But his, he's going to be tied closer to, I assume, like university sports, the Elks, different things like that. The guy who's going to hurt is the guy from Maidstone. Low-down low-thide, I think, is hooped.

Like, I could be wrong on that. Maybe listeners will tell me different. But, like, there's going to be people that had jobs there that, you know, just aren't the top echelon. Gregor, Gregor's as good as Stauffer, right? The difference is as Stauffer is in with the oilers. So he already has all the inside scoops. He's got Elliot Friedman.

He's got all these great contacts where Gregor was, you know, Drager and Adam Oates and guys like that. Anyways, I think Gregor will be fine. It's just how is he going to adapt? He's got another podcast too with Frank Cerravelli as well. Right, right. So they've already started to adapt. But, I mean, you go from.

where you have a show in a major city, where it is pumped out to the audience, and if you're driving through, you can just flick it on, and if you're here, you can flick it on, to now people have to search you out. Like, that's going to hurt them all. Because now Gregor isn't in that realm. And I like Gregor.

I think Gregor is very good at what he does, but, like, you're on a radio station that pumped it out every single day. And for an area that loves its sports, for that not to be good enough, like, I mean, that's not wild because, I mean, I think you can all see it. Like how many of us listen to the radio? And if you do listen to the radio,

how many of us is at 630 Chad? And then on top of that, how many of it's a serious satellite? And if those two aren't it, how many of it is like, well, I'm just going to tune into 32 thoughts with Elliot Friedman or what have you. Because honestly.

Or checklets. Right. Or Joe Rogan or S&P. Honestly. I tell you what, I've had this, like as soon as it happened, I'm like, man, maybe we should be doing Brothers Roundtable,

you know, not year round, but maybe a guy should be reaching out to the, the draggers and everything else. Because what happens when all those radio stations go away? They got a little bit of time to give you 15 minutes a week. And all of a sudden you can put together a Thursday sports show. Almost like Bob's doing.

Right? But my agent will be talking to you. My time is worth a lot. Oh, your time's worth a lot. You know, that's right. Anyways. So, I mean, 1260 going away, I mean, there's going to be new things that grab a hold of that market and have fun with it.

And it'll be really cool to see what comes up out of it, right? Really, though, with all the different guys, rolling around. It's something you could look at where you go, I'm going to put together an hour, and I'm going to have four guys on for 15 minutes. Yeah, it wouldn't be hard. No. And you might have two regulars, like spectra is or whatever. So you've got two regular

guys every week, but then you got two guests, or I don't know. Well, and the other thing is, too, is that 630 Chet is not just a sports radio station. They have Stauffer from 12thal 2, and then they've got the... Reed Wilkins. Reed Wilkins on at night, but it's not like it's all day every day. It's in news. It's

talk radio. And it's on the radio. So if you had something to compete against that, which I'm sure Gregor will. Well, no, Gregor's entering into the realm of podcasting now, isn't he? Yes. And live streaming. That's what he's going to be going to. Yep. Yeah.

Absolutely. He isn't starting his own registration. You never know unless someone hires him. Well, I mean, unless 630 Chad hired him. Right. But he, but he wasn't. But there's not a spot on 630, Chad. And Gregor, correct me, if I'm wrong, wasn't an employee of TSN.

He was a contractor. He's buying the radio time off them and doing all his own ad sales and everything. So, like, Well, that's why I think Greg will be all right, because he was ordering an entrepreneur before this. Yeah. And I had to do a bunch of stuff to make it work, right? So he's going to figure it out. He probably already's figured out a bunch.

Yeah. It's whether or not like 630 Chad wants more sports, but they've already got a lineup, so I don't even know. The Oilers Network, maybe? Like, could the Oilers Network go out and grab them and put them on a part of their show? Maybe. Does he want to do that? I don't know. Trying to get those ad sponsors too, right?

as far as the radio, a lot of people advertise because it's on radio, right? Yeah, advertising. So how are you making your money, right? The difference for someone like Gregor is when he was on the radio, he didn't have to find sponsors because the radio station did it for him, whereas now all of a sudden you've got to find sponsors for your show. So that's the big difference.

No, I don't think so. No, he came. Oh, because he was paying for the time. He would have been finding his sponsors. Oh, well, then Gregor would be completely fine because he's done it all right. That's where someone like low tide would be different. though because he's got to figure out podcasting, which he might already be podcasting, although someone might be doing it for him, putting it on podcast.

But then he's got to figure out the advertising part, which is something completely new that you've got to start from scratch from. Yeah, just interesting to me. And as I read, look down, like all the other places they axed on this, you know, aren't all sports station. So along with TSN 1260, they got rid of Winnipeg's funny 1290, Calgary's funny, 1060, Vancouver's BN, Bloomberg Radio 1410 and Funny 1040 along with London's News Talk 1290 have been shut.

And then it goes along and long and long and it says TSN now only has radio stations in three Canadian cities, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal. And the TSN stations, Vancouver, Hamilton, and Winnipeg were all exited in 2021. So to me, if you're in that realm and we're paying attention, you could see this coming, right? Like I think, like you're seeing all these ones going and we're hanging by a thread and it's Emmington because Emmington's a, you know, we're the biggest fish in town, right? Like, so what would you say is the TSN turning point? Dad, Joe.

I would say once SportsNet started, right? TSN was never the same after really. When they missed out on hockey net in Canada and all that. Start at the end. Right? That was a big swing and miss. But it was talked about at the time. And it's just funny how things take time.

It doesn't happen overnight. But here you sit. Well, not only that, but for the radio side, as soon as podcasting started becoming a thing, if you could listen to your favorite person instead of whoever's talking on radio, talk radio starts going away because why. I agree with you, Dust, but like Harley said at the start, them not getting the Euler and the Elks games? No, sure.

There's only room for, because of the podcasting, there's only room for one. Like, if they got that, they're the guys doing it. And then 630's making a decision on, okay, maybe we're still going to be your news and traffic but that you probably leaves the weed well control like it's gone right you're no more sports yeah like because they didn't get it they're gone if you watch an oiler game how often do you flip to 1260 never it's always 630 chad and then you always on the way home you always listen to 630 chad yeah like nobody listens to 1260 yeah so the only time i listen to 1260 i used to listen to it all the time and now like very rarely but when i'm going through emminton or around emminton then you

listen to greggar's show like that's the only thing i tune into you know and i think about myself I'm like, you know, for a guy who loves the oilers, I don't really listen to 1260 that much anymore. That's just too easy. And it seems like, it seems like because they're the oiler station, then Bob's got the guests on and you're getting the information that you need. All right. Let's, we're going to, we're going to rattle through this fast, okay? So it's a Sportsnet article, Sportsnet article breaking down one question facing each team for the offseason and upcoming season, okay? So alphabetical order.

Anaheim Ducks, will they try and stop the bleeding in any way or lean in? into the rebuild even more. Well, even into it, I think. When I think of that team, I think lost in the wilderness. I don't think lost in the wilderness. I think they've got a great core of young guys. They're going to add another one here and probably Fantilli. Their biggest question is, are they going to drop,

if they drop some of their older guys, like Silverberg and them guys, are they going to have enough cap to get to the floor? So it's going to be interesting to see what they do there. Does he, with the young core like that, does he try and find a couple guys. The free agency is not great this year. But, I mean, the Corps is going to, like, if they're going to have Fantilli,

who any other year would be a first overall pick, and then they McTavish and Zegris and Drysdale, and they got young Zellwiger, they got a pretty good young group there. They're going to be wandering in the wilderness for a few more years. Did they remind you of the Oilers five years ago? Yeah, maybe. Oh, more than five years ago.

Seven years ago? Yeah. They're going to be, it's going to take them a couple more years to get out of it. Is Dallas Eakins still a head coach? No, he's gone. He's gone. Yeah. And they said because they lost the last 13 games, right?

He's a real. It wasn't only that they had a bad year because they knew they didn't have a strong team, but, I mean, in the end, they showed no life. Watching him on TV, he's just really unlikable, isn't he? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, he's had more than one shot in the NHL, so he can't be that terrible. Is this right?

Like, am I getting this right? He coached the Ducks from 2019 to 2023, so this year. for four years. His first year in 71, he was 29 and 33, didn't make the playoffs. His second year, they were 17 and 30, didn't make the playoffs. His third year, they were 31 and 37, didn't make the playoffs. And then his final year, they were 23 and 47, and obviously didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, and then, do you remember what he was with the Oilers?

And with the Oilers, he was 29 and 44 and 7 and 19. Yeah, like he's got a horrific. So what happened? You're just watching him on TV. He seems really unlikable. just unlikable how what happened and and here's and here's the the contrast of uh of of of him coaching in the hl now at the start with the Toronto Marley's he had losing his first season was a losing record 33 35 then 37 and 32 44 24 24 43 23 okay so and then when he went to

sandier with gulls he was 39 and 23 43 and 20 36 28 36 24 all winning records which is why Anaheim promoted him to their head coach, had three losing seasons, but what happened after the third losing season is Anaheim brought in Pat Verbeek. So the general manager paid for that. They brought him Pat Verbeek, who ran with him for a year, which wasn't a bad thing because now he's taking the heat for that bad first year, which Verbeek knew he was going to have anyways. Yep. Arizona, will it get worse before it gets better?

Dead man walking. Does it not get better until they leave? Like, it just, I just don't see it getting better there until they're in a new home. and then it'll probably get better rapidly. I agree with James. Will they let... Shane Donne, who is probably the all-time greatest Arizona Coyote ever. And only you're going to get any argument, yeah.

Just hired on with the Leafs. Like how long are they ever going to let them leave? Yeah. At some point, I think it's a done deal now. They can't get a new building. Are they going to have an NHL team playing a 5,000 seed arena the rest of their lives? Yeah, I got struck down that they won't allow them to them.

So then where, if you're, if you're, if you're Betman and you're a smart guy, which he believes he is, and I guess we could give him a little bit, where are you putting them? There was a few different places that were floating around. One was Houston. I know. Everybody says Houston. Where are you picking, Harles?

Where are you going? Where is Kansas City? There was Salt Lake City. Okay, you got a lot on to go, Harles. Where are you picking? If you're going from an actual population standpoint, I think Houston is probably the most obvious. Hockey market, I've been told Salt Lake is terrible.

right so I don't know I would love to see something further on the west coast even something maybe like a Portland or something I don't know if Portland could sustain it or not right but dust what's that football game where the expansion team was always Mexico City let's go Mexico City you got a big population there sure does John I'm going to go I don't know how big it is so I was going to say Oklahoma but looking at the map it looks like I'm going to say Kansas City. I'm going to go, I'm going to go a little, uh, Sean took my, because I was going to say Kansas City. So I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to go Milwaukee. Wouldn't that be something?

Is that too far? Milwaukee had a team way back when. In the NHL? Yeah. Or in the IHL. I want to say it was in the IHL. Was that almost too far east though or not? Milwaukee? Yeah, it's getting over there. Well, Minnesota's in the west. Maybe it'd be your farthest east team in the west. Or it doesn't matter. I was thinking somewhere along the West Coast. Milwaukee Admirals, wasn't it? Milwaukee, the team's been playing since 1970.

Originally is the amateur team called the Milwaukee Wings, but we renamed the Admirals after their first season, and they are affiliated with the Nashville Predators. And they play now in the HL. Right. And they're, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I thought. Okay, if we're going to get it through all 32 teams,

it's going to take two hours. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Boston Burroughs, does Patrice, Bergeron come back? Yes or no? Yes. Yes. And they're going to be good again. Yes. Because they didn't win. Buffalo Sabres, stay patient with the build

or start pushing in some chips? Oh, I think you keep building. They're close. They're not pushing away chips, but they're going to go hard this year. Are they going out? Well, they were talking about Hell Buck. They're going to push to go out. Yeah, like that's where they're at, I think. Yes.

Calgary Flames. Who resigns by July 1 and who goes? And the list is backland, Lindholm, Tofoli, Hanofen, Tanev, and Zaderoff. Those are the big six. And they're all UFAs? That's what it's saying. They're all UFAs. Let me see this.

That's a good chunk of your middle core. Yeah, we'll bring up the flames. I say Backlin resigns. I say Hanan's gone. Tannov resigns. Well, just the question is, who's for sure going to? re-sign. Give one one guy. I'm going to go Michael Backlin. They kind of got to sign him, don't they? They have to. Well, you could go in a different direction. Didn't make playoffs.

So Backlin's got a year. So these guys all have one year. Backlin's got a year. Lindholm's got a year. Tuffoli's got a year. Dubay's got a year. Okay. The Lewis, Loochich, Ritchie, all UFAs. The only guy they should re-sign out of what you just said of them, seven guys is Lendell. So those six guys all have. have a year left. That's what they have. Lynn Holm is the guy you should be trying to resign. Moving on.

Oh, that's, wait a second. Chicago Blackhacks. How do they start building around Connor Badard? Well, they go get a tough guy. Somebody that's not a buck 50. You know, do you sign Ryan Reeves for a year just to come in? Just to play on your fourth line, just to play 40 games. They're not going to make the playoffs.

You sure don't want anybody screwing around with them. Well, and you need to build for a few years. I think you're going to be a couple years of building. No, they said they're not resigning him. They're moving on. Is that a dumb move? They're not resigning them. Yeah.

No, they said that before the draft lottery. And I think I said that was a dumb move because they should have waited. They should have waited because if you get badard, you want Taves to hang around for a year and mentor the kid. 100%. Or there's no perfect guy. There's no perfect guy. Yeah. You keep Taves around.

Just churnrobes. You're John Thaves. where do you want to go? I don't know. Which team, if you're willing to sign for the minimum? Well, right away, you go, who has the best shot? Right now, the odds this morning on Sportsnet were the number one team's Colorado Avalanche to win the cup. I was going to say Colorado would be a good shot.

Followed by Eminton and Toronto. That's the three they have as the top. So what you're saying is he's not wanting to go back home and go Manitoba? And Vegas, in Vegas, they had it in the top five, I believe, as well. Colorado is a decent fit because he could slot in nicely on their third line. Emmington would be a decent fit. Eminton would be a decent fit as a third line singer. As with Toronto.

If you're losing a guy like... Well, Riley's a UFA. Yeah, and Riley's probably not coming back, is he? I doubt it. But you never know. He might sign for cheap there, too. Just like Derek Ryan? Yeah, if I just Taves Colorado and Emmington would be a decent...

Well, I mean, you want a shot at winning. He is from Manitoba. What about Vegas? Vegas, sure. Although Vegas, whenever you win a cup, you always have his trouble signing all your guys back. you got and it becomes tough the year after morning. They have the same drive the next year.

Like if I'm Taves, Vegas for me is not the team. But, you know, if Patrice Bergeron is going back to Boston, maybe they convinced Jonathan Taves to come there for cheap and send them to the third line? Sure. That'd be another team. Colorado Avalanche. Will the cap begin to pinch next season will be the first of Nathan McKinnon's league high, 12.6 million? They will not because Landiscagg's gone for the year.

Has he gone for the whole year? Yep. So that gives them cap room. to make some moves. And then a hold of fill. Big one. Columbus Blue Jacks, will they upgrade at center? If so, how?

Is that going to solve their problem? I don't know if that's really solving anything. Well, they don't have a number one center. Will the Columbus Blue Jackets be dead last in the NHL? No, they will not. They won't be. After they added the defensemen and the wingers, I just don't know if they have the type of team

that's going to go win a cup. But, I mean, they just added Severson and Proveroff with Werensky coming back healthy. That's pretty three, top four. But their centermen go in, as in Boone Jenner's their number one center, who on a lot of teams be number three center. So they do need a centerman. Who do they get? Hmm.

Mark Schifley's out there. Or in Dubois? No, well, Dubois is available. If it wants to go to Montreal, but. Does he? Is that where he wants to go? Pier Luke de Bois. Yeah. Let's go home.

Detroit Red Wings. What are Steve Eisenman's main off-season priorities? Hmm. What do you think they're? All of them? I don't know what you're. They're a good up-and-coming team. It says the Wings have made a few more plays for competing instantly.

He signed a number of veterans from Free Agency last summer, but finished behind Ottawa and Buffalo, still 12 points back of the playoffs. In 2020, in 2023, the Wings will have about 30 million in cap space. and have a need for a top six score. And while Alex DeBring Carr is a nice idea, he's from Michigan, that would require trading with one of the Atlantic rivals. The Sands, Sabers, and Habs are all going to start turning their attention to winning again. So how will Isman keep pace?

Well, how about if you were Isman, you said, okay, first of all, I'm not going to panic. I'm going to go out there, and I'm going to go sign like a guy like Teresanko. It's going to bring some name recognition, a guy that, if he's healthy, can score 30 goals, who I'm not banking the whole team on for the rest of my life, right? Sign him for a two-year deal. I got Teresanko for the next couple years. And like he's got, he's got Evanson, he's got Morris Cedar, he's got all these guys coming up. Like does he not just let these guys have some time?

Anything, the one thing I would do is who's his defense partners for them two young guys? Because they're going to be unbelievable, right? Like where's his top. So what you're thinking is what you need is a couple of bridge deals of some decent names for the next couple of years to get from here to there. Here's a guy that I really like. And I don't know, you know, where he fits in really with the oil. But a guy like Scott Mayfield is 6.5.220. A guy like Ryan Graves is 6.5. 225.

They're both that second, third pair shut down, penalty kill defensemen. Would not bother you to have them in the lineup at all. The other thing I think of is give what the league is going to give you, right? So goalies right now, there's a plethora of goalies out there. If you are going to be trying to take a, you know, building towards the future, Over the next few years, this is the year. If you're going to sign a goalie, right, this is the year because there's a pile of goalies that are out there all available.

Aiden Hill? Yeah. Emmington Oilers, how will you react to Vegas winning the Stanley Cup? You know, this is so hard because we never talk about the Oilers. Tied 2-2 in the second round series against Vegas, and they like game 5 by a 2-1 score after the first period. Of course, we know how the rest of the went. Let's do it like this.

Everybody pick a different spot. So someone picked the GM's viewpoint, someone picked the coach, some pick... I'm going to pick Ken Hollins then. Okay, and then someone pick, I don't know, and the owners. If I'm Ken Holland, I say exactly what I said in the press conference. Like, there's no panic. We got the team. We just got to get it back.

Slight little tweaks. And you walk back in with the same recipe, the same guys. You have the team there. We are built to win, and you know, you hope... He already made his big move for this year when he picked up back home. We're listening to the GM. Who are you, Dust? Are you the coach?

I'm the owner. I'm happy with this team. I'm sitting there relaxing because we got all the pieces. What on the beach in Hawaii? Absolutely. You got all the pieces in place. What am I worried about? I can feel Calgary Flamesans.

Listen to just squirming. Harley, who are you? I'm the coach, and I think taking full ownership for that, I would be reviewing. Me and the coach are having some meanings, but Campbell not start in the final game anyway. I would be reviewing everything that happened, not just even through that, but through the other series as well, right?

Because I think ultimately you're the head coach, the buck stops with you. There's got to be some minor tweaks that you could have done throughout the, and so that next year when you come back, you've got more tools in your toolbox going into those series. You're you, J. Connor McDavid? Well, was there any other question?

So I'm McDavid, and what I'm doing is, couple things one I'm talking to I'm talking I'm talking I'm in talks with Ken Holland about I am putting all my feelers out there because can we get a Jonathan Taves to come in for a million bucks a year like Spets and them guys did you know who's out there that's willing to do that for us you know I'm talking to Ken about let's do this you put this together for me I will look at resigning here but I want to win a cup and I want to feel like it's everything on

board right now But, like, McDavid's got to have some pull out there in the league. He's the best player in the world. Who's willing to come play? They were talking about Louis DeBress was talking about Klim Kostin, right? This is an opportunity. Derek Ryan signs a two-year deal, like, at the price point he does, because he's got two years now to win with the club.

Like, Louis's talking about Klim Koste, where if you can go out there in the next two years, playing on one of the best teams in the league, not only do you have a chance to win a cup, but if you can score 15 to 20 goals in both seasons and fight 10 times, you will have teams line up. You will create a career for yourself. And so whether you're Jonathan Taze looking at one last kick, whether you're a guy like Connor Brown who wants a chance to start again

or a different score, I mean, you can come in and sign a one-year deal for cheap because we don't have lots of money, but you're going to get opportunities to play with Drysettlement, David. If you're going to do it, and win a cup. If you're going to do it as a player in the NHL, you've got to do it quick because the others don't have many spots to fill. No, that's right. But this is what I'd be doing right now. Who can we get? Like, I would be looking at, let's get, you know, let's be bold.

Let's, let's move on. Let's take Fogel and Yamamoto's money, so that's almost $6 million we'd be freeing up. You know, maybe even want to free up Cici's money. Maybe we're okay with you, but now I've got $10 million. Who can I go out and find for $10 million? Maybe I'm not finding one guy for $10 million, but now. Now who I can bring in for two, five millions or two, four and a half, you know, like I would be what is really our options and who really wants to come.

The other thing is, I want a guy that wants to come. I don't want Teresanko coming because, well, I guess I got nowhere else to go. Like, I want a guy. I want a guy that's saying, I'm coming, right? And this is what we're doing next year because we were right there. We outshot the team that won the cup, the last two games, we outshot them. It's got to be the right fit, too. Do you trade Campbell?

I have if you trade Campbell and go sign Aden Hill yes I'm winning right now the eminently the Oilers may only have two years I realize that period and then for the next 20 years we sit here and garble around right yeah like we got two years okay it depends on what the deal like Campbell can you actually trade them at this point well I think so you can trade anybody's tradable you can trade any no not anybody though they'd say Blake wheeler's probably not available right now. Unless you retain a whole much salary, but the owners can't retain salary. Well, that's what I mean, is you cannot retain salary in the deal.

Is there a team out there would take Jack Campbell on? Yes. Arizona. There's going to be teams. Anaheim's talking about barely reaching the floor. Could you pawn them off? Yeah, you're probably giving up some draft picks, but you're trying to win right now. We just talked about it.

So if I'm going on draft picks, you're getting rid of your contract, and you're going out and you're trying to find the best goalie that you possibly can get. So who's the best goalie out there you can possibly get for the next two years? Hellibuck? I don't know. Can you afford them? I don't know about Hellebuck. See, I like Carter Hart.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, but I do. How do you get it all? So if you're the Philadelphia Flyers right now, I'll trade you Jack Campbell and my first round pick next year for Carter Hart. No, but you asked, the question was, who's the best goalie out there that can help you win right now? Yeah. I think if I'm Philly, that's available. Obviously, Shesterkin's not coming from the range.

So within reason. You know what? If I could, Anaheim's goalie, Gibson would be my guy. That would be your guy? Well, I think he'd be available. If he's available, I go after him. I bet you. Gibson said he wants traded.

I tell you what. If Gibson's available, I'd do everything to go after him. So I bet you, Anaheim, and I'm not Pat for Beak's shoes, but if I'm in Pat for Beak's shoes, I believe Gibson's 6.4. So if you're the Oilers, I would say, I'll tell you what, I will take Campbell, you take Gibson, I will retain Gibson's 1.4, right? So now the money is even. And you give me your first round pick next year. If Gibson's available, I'd definitely look at it because he'd be the guy I'd go after. Because if you're Verbeek, you're trying to add assets. Now, maybe

Verbeek's going to start off because you always start off higher. I'll take your first next year and your second year after or something, right? I mean, whatever. Or maybe saying I'll take Levoy and then Helen says, well, no, I'll give you a pick instead. Is it? Isn't Gibson the guy you go after? Or you think Carter Hart would be a better choice? I just, I feel like in my guts that Carter Hart coming into the league was just really, really highly thought of and was a winner. And he's played on a Flyers team where, can you look up the stats while I'm talking? He's played on a Flyers team where he's never really actually had a bad year.

And he's played on some terrible teams that they talk about have had terrible. Gibson was unreal on that Anaheim team when they were awful. I don't know what happened in the last year or two, because I haven't been keeping that close eye, but he was unreal. Carter Hart, here we go. Queer save percentage. No, his save percent 9.06 in NHL totals, but last year was 907, year before 905,

year before that, 87, 914, 917. Yeah, so he came in like gangbusters and has gone down. Yeah. I know Gibson was right at the top. Four million cap hit for next. next year. What's Gibson last year remaining? So Gibson was 921, 924, 926, 917, 904, 903, 904, 899.

See, it feels like the Gibson's falling up, but maybe I'm wrong with Carter Hart too. Maybe there's somebody else that's better off. Gibson's 29 years old. Yeah. I mean, but you say, no, for the next two years. We're only looking for the next two years. Yeah, the ducks were horrendous last year.

Well, the problem with the ducks is they've been awful for a couple years. 920, 924, 926, 917. And then since Dallas Aikins has come in, 904, 903, 904, 899, and yes, I am going to point out Dallas Eakins years. Carter like, Carter, Carter, Hart, 914, 87, 905, 907. Yeah. Maybe Gibson's your answer, boys. And maybe you don't even have to give that much up to get them.

You might not have to. But I really like, I've always liked John Gibson. What's actually funny about Gibson now that I look at that, like they've been awful and his save percentage has been awful but at the same time it's like ugh they've been a like a terrible terrible team yeah and when you're a goalie that's getting shalacked every night of the week like that's gonna be tough on the old brain you know it's weird as i sit here and think about it i go i would do everything in my power to talk to jonathan tase because if i could bring him in for a couple million bucks sit on your third line center well

it just he wouldn't have to do really it really solves a lot of problems doesn't it well what you need is a guy that plays in your third line that knows how to play the right way, which he does, and can penalty kill. That's what you need. For sure, but it gives you so many options. So if you decide to run the lineup with dry sidle on the top line, now Jonathan Tave slides into number two and McLeod's on three, you got McLeod learning off of Taves. You're bringing in Raffy-Levoy and Dylan Holloway, who now can, you can have a guy like

Taves where you can at least put one of them with them. Like, it just gives you so many different variables, never mind the drive to win in the experience. He'd be the perfect mentor, too. 100%. Like out of all the guys that have won the cup that are sitting there? Let's talk about 32-2s. Eminton Oilers? Okay.

Let's talk about it. What's next off after Empton? John Gibson. Florida. Season. Was it a good, not a good season? It says, what are the takeaways? But I mean, at the end of the day, was it good season for the Florida Panthers?

They lose the way they do in the finals and they get slacked in the final game. I would say that they make the finals after a big giant trade and everything else and almost not making the playoffs. and blah, blah, blah, blah. How I look at that Florida season is this, is they were a really good team last year that led the league in points, failed miserably in the playoffs, made a huge deal,

and it took them a whole year to congeal together into a team, and they showed that in the playoffs, and they're going to be very good for years to come because of it. Yeah, I'm not disappointed if I'm now. That's a good year, and they just ran into injury problems in the final round. And a very good loss.

LA Kings, does GM Rob Blake have a big move in them? The Kings are a very good team. Kings are a very good team. A very good team. That ran into, it's almost the way of the Jets. That ran into the Emmington Oilers. Yes.

Yeah. They got to be frustrated. If you're raw Blake, you're sitting there, we're going to have to face Vegas and Eminton for the next two, three years. So what's the mix to get them by that? I don't know. That's tough. What are they adding that they can get by?

I actually think the Pacific, and I've said this for a bit, is the deepest division in hockey right now. Because I think all three of those teams are very good, and Seattle's no slouch. I don't know what the big move is, but maybe on the back end. If you added in Shifling? Yeah, but they're already, like,

I guess so, and then you have Denouye's your number three center? Boy, that'd be tough. Copa Tar Shifley, Denold. They're a good team. They're a very good team. Kempi destroyed the Oilers this year. That was great. He was good.

Minnesota Wilde. How will Philip Gustafson's contract talks impact the rest of the summer? isn't that a specific one from Sportsnet? I don't know. Does it matter? I don't know. Like, is it they going to pay him that much?

Zach Parisi, Ryan Suter, buyout cap hits will still sting for the next season at 14.74 million in dead caps made people hold the years. Leaving Bill Garron, the GM, roughly 9 million to work with this summer. Matt Dumb has probably gone via free agency as a result and will limit Minnesota's ability to be in on trade of options such as Pierre Luke Dubois,

who would be a type of center that Phil. So, Goley Philip Gusman is coming off an incredible year and is an RFA this year. They're going through the motion. Doesn't it feel like they're just going to be a regular team until they get rid of that? 14 million?

Yeah, like that's enough to sink a team. Yeah. How do you like that move? Do you like, I remember when they bought those two guys out. Like, was that the right play? I guess, I guess in his mind he was looking for a fresh start in the room and stuff. I didn't really understand at the time. I thought you're really.

going to hamstring your team for years for years I thought it's interesting you got to be very careful buying out guys like that you got to be careful signing guys like that too which wasn't him but Montreal Canadiens got the number five pick this year do they take it or did they trade it well they're trying to trade up so I guess if they can trade up but if you had aheim ducks what would you want for them to take Fantilli when's the last time someone traded up in the draft I agree that high up in the draft well I remember when Brian Burke did it get back I know but that's like 20 some years ago.

No, it's more than that. The Siddons are both retired. Well, let's go through the scenario. So you are the number four pick, which you can take this, Will Smith, right? The draft's considered Bardard, then Fentilly, Carlson, and Will Smith. And all three of them guys, depending on the year, like, all three of them would have went ahead of Yakupoff in that year, right? Like they're all legit.

The kitchen sink would have went ahead of Yakuboff. But all I'm saying is there's four legit number ones there's a superstar and then there's three legit number ones. Montreal could use a fresh print. So if they, well, Will Smith. So if you hold the fourth pick, what would you want, what would you want for them to move up one? What you're asking? What do you want for Montreal for them to move up one?

How much better is that, right? Like you've got to be very confident in the person that you're trying to get by just jumping ahead that number one or number two, right? But what does it cost you? it cost to move up one slot one slot that's it doesn't seem that much shouldn't your second second round pick okay so if you're much roll you probably do it you get your you drop one and you get a second they do it more in the NFL yeah than they do in the NHL no one moves in the NHL well they do in the well no after you get out of the first 10 how do they get it after they get it after 10 then guys will do it yeah then you start seeing some move well and the reason they say that is because after that they'll

hit a certain line will they say well any player after 12 to like number 60 they're pretty close right and so now if the guy has a favorite that he's going to take at 18 and you can pick up an extra pick in that top 60 and if you can trade a couple of those picks away and pick up an NHL ready defenseman like Reinhart you do it no that was a couple first round yeah that's what I said as a Nashville Predators is UC Soros really in play I think so I think if you're not Nashville, you're at the point where... They tip their hand by trading at home, didn't they? So if you're the Oilers, do you go after Saros?

You know, we talked about Gibson and we talked about Hart, and nobody brought up Saros. Saros will be another one. Saros, it's rumor, he's often rumored goalies available. Saros has the best mix of skill term two years, contract at 5.5 mil, and he's 28. Perfect. Perfect. So I'll give you Jack Campbell on my first round pick next year for Saros. Okay, so here's the thing about the Oilers and Goaltending.

If you're going to do it, you've got to get a lot. legit number one. Yeah. Seros is. You're not, yeah, that's what I mean. Saros would be one for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'll give you Olivier Rodriguez. Just throw them in. Sure. New Jersey Devils, they've often said that they got a window

of the next five years to win a Stanley Cup, maybe less. Is that, what's your thoughts on that? They're just at the start. They're in great shape. Yeah, they're just at the start in my own mind.

Like, I don't know what the window is, but they've got nothing but runway ahead of them. They must be worrying about as they get five years down the road running into cap problems is that what you're thinking but who knows where the caps had 10 five years they got a nice young little core there they just signed jesper brat today yeah eight eight year deal at 60 yeah yeah it came out to 7.875 million or something like that yeah sure islanders Lou Lamarillo uh they're asking here if he trades the center but essentially does he

shake up some of the lineup or do you like what he is built there well no no he's got like he should be in the in the in the play for guy like shifley they need to add some offense there They seem like they're just a league average team. They got a really good goal tender. And, you know, they picked up Bo Horvats, a nice pickup, and they've got Barzell. They, like, they could really use that second line center, I think, to drive. New York Rangers. It says, is it as simple as running it back, especially now that they have the new head coach and Peter Lavellio Lett?

Are you just walking into the season, or are you, what's your thoughts on the New York Rangers? they got to get tougher. I thought they added... The deadline didn't make any sense to me for the New York Rangers. It really didn't. And I think they need... Jason calls it tougher.

I call it. You need the core guys in your third line that can play every situation. Like, they got a team that's right there. So you might be right with Labiette. I mean, look at their... What would you give for Keandre Miller, Truba, and Fox as your three top defensemen?

It's not too bad. It's pretty good. And Shasturkin and Nett. Sturkin and a net. They actually got some decent forwards up front. Yeah. Like they're not far off. Nair and Crider and Zbinajad.

Like they're there. Yes. They're very good team. Be a nice team to jump in the coach. That's why I say like you almost need some solid guys in your third line to have, you know. Block some shots and muck it up. Ottawa Centers. What becomes of GM,

Pierre Dorian and coach DJ Smith. It says we finally know who the new owner will be and then put it in quotes. Hockey guy Michael Andler may have his own designs on the, Senators front office runs of the NHL approves him hopefully later this month. Doesn't, I think we'll know more at the end of this season. So you think it's a full season? Well, I think if I'm the ownership, I'm a new owner coming in. I mean, if he knows hockey at all, he looks at the last five years.

They've done a great job building this team up in my mind right now. Let's see how they do this year. I always hate coming into a situation making sudden moves anyhow. You come in there and just feel it out. You feel it out for a year. You'll figure out pretty quickly. what needs to change. I think Pierre Doran's done a really good job there.

And he's done things where guys at the start raise their eyebrows, like when he traded away Carlson and different things. But you look at the pieces he's put together there. He's done a really good job. Remember, they picked up, I believe it was the Brady Kachuk. They picked up with the sound as they pick. Philadelphia Flyers, Jay's going to like, is this the start of a real rebuild after they traded Proveroff?

And then it says Kine, Lotton, and Carter Hart are all rumored in trades. several trade rumors. And you got Danny Breyer's If you're looking at trading all these guys, to me that is, what are we talking about? I feel like the Philadelphia Flyers and the Winnipeg Jets are in the same boat,

which is they have problems in the room. The Philadelphia Flyers have been worse than the Jets where they're not even able to make the playoffs. What are you, what core is there? There is no core. Tell me what core you got. You got nothing to build around. I think you're blowing guys.

out the door so you're saying picks they've each got a Taylor Hall in there or what they don't even have someone who's gonna Taylor Hall to build around they don't I don't think like I don't see who are you building around in that team so then so then if you're the Oilers this is where you talk about we were talking about Anaheim and what they're kind of trying to do and and and now you mentioned Philly maybe even Winnipeg because you just never know because when you're off something we watch the others do this for years where you can just get steals a deal because they're just looking for, give us some picks,

and the draft's coming up. And so you're like, I mean, not that the others have a ton of picks this draft, they don't. But let me throw something at you that I heard. And your initial gut reaction is going to be, well, you never do that. But they're talking about to get Kinecti out of Philly. So Kinekney's a guy that's been in their top scores

the last two or three years. They really like his, like he battles. So he's a score that battles, right? On a bad team, he's scoring 25 goals. they're saying, you know what, Philly would probably take Broberg. So you could probably toss in a guy like Yamamoto, right? Yamamoto and Broberg, they retain a little bit of Kine's money, right? So obviously you're getting Kinectney for, let's say, $4 million.

You're giving them Broberg and Yamamoto. Or maybe it evens out so that nobody's gaining on the money. But for Yamamoto and Broberg, you're bringing in Kine and you haven't, right? And now you have a legit top six guy. And everybody goes, well, no, but Broberg could be something. Great. we got two years. Because Broberg's not winning you the championship in five years.

That's right. So that's just one thing that I've heard that they're throwing a round right now, right? And if you're Philly, you go, hey, I'm getting two former first round picks. Broberg's probably going to be a legit top four for sure. And Yamamoto's a useful former 20-go score. He's a useful piece. Right? And I haven't even given my first round next year yet, if I'm in Ken Holland.

I'd love to be in Ken Holland's office right now. I was flying the wall, some of the conversations. How about Jack Campbell, Yamamoto, Broberg, and a first-round pick, and you get Carter Hart. And connect me. And connect me. And you've just saved yourself some money, too. I love Jay. He's doing it like he's playing EA sports right now.

And then you see what the computer does. Won't do that. All right. I'll throw in a couple of them. I don't know why they won't do that. I don't know why. San Jose is Eric Carlson a real trade candidate? And I'll remind guys, the 33-year-old makes $11.5 million against the cap, the highest tip for any defenseman.

in the league for another four seasons. If I was the Phoenix Coyotes, I'd go after him to try and fill that 5,000 seat building. Other than that, I think it would be buyer beware with him. I think it's a one-off. I think he has injury problems again this year, and he ends up being... He's 33. Yeah, like... A pure offensive defense, but he makes too much money.

Yeah. What do you do? I'm staying right away from. Carry on. Seattle Cracking, it's what will Vince Dunn sign for? And it just goes on to say, it's been a... It's been a great, a season full of great stories for the Crack and Dunn's breakout ranks near the top of the list.

The team's second highest score with 64 points, Dunn averaged over 20 minutes of even strength time per game, led the Crack in an average power play time per game, and Seattle scored over 61% of every goal when he was on the ice five on five. The highest paid Crack and Defensman for now is Jamie Alexiak at $4.6 million, and Ron Francis has done, GM Ron Francis has done well managing the cap in the early going. done should set a new high for the blue line though and he's an arbitration eligible RFA one year from UFA status What does he get seven or eight million?

They got room right now they got tons of Yeah 63 million right now right what will he accept 7, 8, 9 somewhere in there? Yeah I would imagine Oh he'll take nine Oh I know so what do you get him for Seven or eight years at 7 8 million

If I can get him eight years at six and a half Well you take that all day long I don't know if you get them that well. Eight times seven? Eight times seven. You do it. He's going to be your number one defenseman for the foreseeable future, isn't he? Yeah, you're probably right.

St. Louis. He's no darnel nurse. Okay. But he's pretty good. Could you trade away darnel nurse? Well, he could. What are you getting back? You got to have someone to fill his spot.

Yeah. That's right. You're learning dust. Yeah. So who are you getting? He's got to be better. Zach Wrenski. Hey, if you get Werenski, I'd be all over that.

I love Werensky. He's a fantastic defenseman. Although the money wouldn't help you there, because he's the same amount, isn't he? Well, who cares if he's the same amount? If he's a better player, you do it? I was trying to think of a deal, though, where maybe could you find a guy for $7.5 million?

Does Columbus do that? Yeah, probably not. Probably not. Heckblad's not available for Star Training Camp extra, by the way. Hurt? Yeah, because he was playing with a broken bone on his foot. At home, you mean? No.

Eckblad. Ekblad. Florida. Is Cacheco for a while or is he going to be back? Roken Sternum, I'm not sure how long that takes. I'll probably be back. St. Louis, how will GM Doug Armstrong use his first three, use his three first round picks?

They got three first round picks in this year's draft. I was just looking it up. It's pick 10, pick 25 and pick 29, I believe. I don't know what St. Louis. did after they won the cup. They won the cup and then they've totally like just stripped the team down. It doesn't make any sense to me. Well, because they weren't winning. No, yeah, yeah, but go back. You win a cup. Yeah, but now you're here. So, would Chicago take three first round picks for the first overall pick? No. No, I don't like so. Not franchise. Would Anaheim take three first round

picks for the second overall pick? Maybe. That'd be splashy, hey? Yeah, that might be. Because who St. Louis building around now? Well, guys like Robert Thomas and Jordan Cairo. So are you building around that? Yeah, they're nice players. Do you guys not like that? Do you're building around them? Jordan Cairo's signed long term.

Robert Thomas signed long term. Braden-Shen signed long term. Pavel Pughey-Nage. But there's nothing. All nice players. Yeah. Sign for a couple more. Brandon Sodd.

That's what I mean. Can you trade three first round picks? We'll get Fantilli. And now you got that number one to go with all them guys. Falk, Krug, Paraco, all on the back. They got a nice team. Nick Leddy. It's a little nice team.

Jordan Bittington, Nett. It's not bad. It's just... I don't know. I guess if they're not trading up because nobody does that sort of stuff. That's what I try and do is trade into the top four.

But if you were... If I'm the St. Louis GM... No, I'll flip it around. If you're the second round overall pick, do you give up your second round pick for three in the first? If you're the Montreal Canaanians, you give your fifth overall pick for three? Maybe.

Now you're starting to talk in my terms. Like the top two? I don't know. Top five, maybe. I mean, you're getting... You're getting three picks. I know. Like at what point where,

so then, but what they say is you want to be in the top four. Who's the fourth overall pick? It goes Chicago, Anaheim, Columbus, and? It goes Chicago, Anaheim, Columbus, San Jose. So if you're San Jose,

if you're Mike Greer, would you take three first round picks for that fourth overall pick? I don't think Mike Greer's doing anything because he's too young of a GM and he's not going to want to look bad. I don't know, but three first round picks. Well, I realize that.

What I'm saying is, is if you're Mike Greer and you just stepped into the roll, you don't want to look like an idiot. So you make no major moves. It all depends on how good you think you're scouting us, doesn't it? If you feel really confident, you're like, listen, there's some guys in this draft that we think we can get. You give us three first. Don't you, like at some point, maybe it isn't, like if you're Vancouver at number 11, do you do it? Well, of course you do. Well, I'm just saying, okay.

Because one of the picks is number 10. All I'm saying is that I don't think Mike Reard does it. No, I wouldn't do that. Trade down and trade three. Sorry, if you're Detroit. Sean's not playing a lot of PlayStation. If you're, I mean, at some point, you're getting number 10 overall pick. So where do you have to be between, we're saying, okay, top four you don't do it.

I would say, okay. So, but you're number five and you're dropping the 10. Plus, you're gaining two more first and you won't do it. If I'm the Montreal Canadiens, I do that. No, no, no. If I'm Montreal Canadiens, I do that deal. There you go. So at some point, you're like, top four?

Maybe. Because you've dropped, you're still going to a top 10 pick. Right. Oh, and by the way, going back to the Clemmas for a second with the centerman, they have a top three pick this year. Hey, Vancouver, could we give you the number 10 pick? Well, we'll take your 11, though. I really like that 11 pick.

So Columbus is probably going to get Carlson, who's a 6-foot-4 center, who's got a body ready, like he's more physically mature, so he's probably ready to play in the NHL right now. So that might be your answer for the centerman in Columbus. Carry on. Tampa Bay Lightning, how do they get better? They got an age problem at this point, don't they? They got an age problem.

They got a bunch of guys that got them Stanley Cup, but if you look at their line up there, Tampa Bay doesn't have any first rounders the next three years, and 2025 is the next year. They have a second round pick. They have signed core of Stanley Cup champions of place, of course, but attrition is wearing at the roster now, and they are thin on assets, including available cap space.

At some point here, they've got to start breaking it down again. That's a tough one. I don't think I'm breaking it down yet. I'm still, I'm like the Boston Bruins right now. I'm looking out there. Will Jonathan Taves come and center my third line next year? Like I am looking at what I got and I'm still trying to push for another year or two.

Because they're there. At the start of the playoffs, when we sat down and who's going to win and who's going to do this, Tampa Bay is part of everybody's conversation. There's people that are taking them in the draft because they think they're going to win. The window is closing and you have to be really quick here and really efficient to extend it. That's the way I look at it. Yeah, you've got to be right now.

Yeah. Pittsburgh Penguins. I'm going back because somehow I skipped over this. How will Kyle Dubois reposition the team as a cup contender? Dubis. Dubis? Yeah. Anyways,

Dubus. Yeah. That's what we're on. DuBois. It's not his team. It's not his team to retool, though. The problem with Pittsburgh has is. Well, it's not the GM.

He's the president of hockey operations, right? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So he's going to be part of the room. Yeah. Pittsburgh's got the same problem as Tampa Bay, really. They got aging superstars.

No, Pittsburgh's got worse problem with Tampa Bay because they are done. Dubis was hired with a seven-year contract to be the guy who oversees the transition to a post-Sidney Crosby reality. His job for at least the next couple of years seasons will be to set this group up for another run. Like, Malkin you could still get something for, could you not? I think I'm trying. The only thing, the UFA or is he got another year or two. No, maybe they send him to a three-year-old. The only thing with Malkin, though, is the only reason Malkin came back was because Crosby

convinced him to. Otherwise, he was going back to Russia. Yes. So if you plan on trading him but if you trade Malcolm to Colorado, for example, like wouldn't Colorado do that? 100%. Colorado's got the cap room. That's right. And so if you're Melkin, you go, I'm pissed off because I'm leaving Pittsburgh, but I'm going to Colorado. Right. Would you, I think you probably do that. Yeah. And Colorado says, Melkin, Melkin has three years left, 6.1. And Colorado says, you know what? We got a dearth of young defensemen. So we're going to give you Boren, Byram. and our first round pick this year for Evgeny Melkin.

I'm saying Malkin, if he goes to Columbus, I'm sure he's not going to be happy. But if he goes to the right team, I'm sure he'll be just pleased. He'll be fine. And Colorado would be right up there. And then how's Crosby feel?

Well, and then it comes down to, okay, are you ever trading Crosby? And what do you do there? Well, it's the same thing with Ovechkin, though. At some point, you know, is no different than Taves and Cain. They decided they were going to stay with Chicago

right until they hit rock bottom. Kane finally got traded last year. Taves never did and now he sits here as a UFA so these guys have to realize so Crosby either makes the mental decision I'm gonna be an all-time Pittsburgh penguin yes but to think that we're gonna challenge for a cup until him 40 is probably unrealistic well you probably here's a thing about Crosby as you go up to him and say look this is where we're at what do you want to do right yep which is which is what's kind of funny with Taves because you would think they would have had that conversation you would hope so and you think with Taves being there like that

would have went I want to stay here and I want to just let me stay here don't do it I'll I'll work my way down to where I'm in the third line, and even as I get older or fourth line, and I work right into special advisor and stay with the club the rest of my life. Well, and you don't do that with all the players. You only do that with players that you're going to raise the numbers of the rafters at the end of it.

100%. Right. And Taves is one of them. Melcham is one of them. LaTang is one of them. Right? But Crosby's the face. I understand. Like you could trade Malcolm away.

Crosby's the guy that's forever like Mary Lemieux. Malkin's pretty freaking close, Jay. Malcolm gets pretty freaking close Malcolm look pretty good in the other uniform He would Toronto Maple Leafs How much of a deadline will July 1 turn out to be Austin Matthews is the one everybody's talking about

But it doesn't seem likely He'll re-sign on July 1 when he's first eligible That's the day a no move Clause kicks in on his contract Mitch Marner has a no move And William Neelander 10 team no trade Have Clause's kick in on July 1 as well But GM Brad Tree Living

Will barely have been on the month barely been on the job a month. Well, he better get going because he has to know with Austin Matthews before January, July 1st. He can't decide July 1st. He has to know by the draft. So the draft we said was June 28th. He either has a deal in place signed or he's trading him. That's right.

You better hope that Tree Living has a very steady hand, a very steady hand to get this done in the next month. You know, it's funny. The other thing is I really like Kyle Dubus and I'll have one. criticism for him is at this trade deadline, I think he went too crazy. I think he changed too much on a team that was very good. And when you make that many roster changes, we talked about that. We talked about it a lot. But he did get him past the first round. We're almost on July 1st, two weeks. So we're not even talking a month. We're talking two weeks here. I'm sure that's what he's doing. You brought up Shane, you brought up Shane Donne. And this is what it, uh, this is what the,

he's been on a tweet. It says he's quoted, he's been skating with me since he was 16, why Shane Dane Doan looks like a great fit with the Toronto Maple Leafs and how his close ties to Austin Matthews and Matthew Nyes will be. Man, they're pulling out all the stops. They're pulling out all the stops. Trying to keep him. Right? Does he stay?

Yes. Here's how, here's if I'm Austin Matthews. You make me the highest paid player in the biggest market in the world, hockey market in the world, and I'm locked in. Do you think he stays? Yes, because I think if I'm back traveling, I'm going to pay him the money. I think you pay him the money because you lock that team around him and then you move forward to make decisions. And one of the decisions, to be honest with you.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, Joe. What I'm wondering is, does Austin Matthews want to stay? Yes, I think so, yeah. Okay. That's all I'm asking. He's going to be the highest paid player in the Toronto Maple Leafs organization. I think he stays. Do you think he likes the pressure cooker?

Because that's what he's in. Yeah, 100%. He likes that because certain players like that kind of situation. Certain players don't like that situation. No. But 14 million reasons why. Is that what it's going to be, Harold? Huh.

It's going to be up there. Here's the thing. 12.6 is McKinnon. I'm going to go 12.75. Here's the thing, guys. Is that we all know that if Austin Matthews hits the market, he's going to get that no matter why. He's going to get 14 million or 15 million.

Sure. Right. So I'm trying to give him to 12.75 if I'm Brad. You're going to be the highest paid player in the league, locked you're locked in for eight years. It gives the club a little bit of wiggle room because we're still trying to build a Stanley. Cup winner, which is how your legacy needs to have in the end to be the ultimate guy.

The question I have... You want to be the guy who's the next captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup as the highest paid player. Do you not want that legacy, Austin Matthews? Dust? I don't know if Austin Matthews is LeBron James. That's the thing I don't know. LeBron does have better style.

There's only one LeBron. To me, to me, I go, I don't know if Austin Matthews has built the same as a lot of guys. And I, to me, could be wrong. But if you're tree living and you're saying 12.75, I'm going, I'm going to go somewhere else because I'm going to get 14. No, no, no. Here's the thing. The money doesn't matter because the Toronto Maple Leafs are going to pay it. They're going to pay it.

Austin Matthews can get that money anywhere and he knows it. So does he want to stay in Toronto? in Toronto. Or does he want to go to someone else? That's the whole question. That is a good question. And I don't know the answer to it. Only he knows that.

I think they re-sign Austin Matthews. I think the bigger question is they can't get rid of Tavares because he's too much money. So he's going to be your second line center or maybe even a winger on Matthew's line. The question becomes Marner's a Nielander. Right? You solve one problem at a time. I agree. But once Matthews signed, do you re-sign marner for another $12 million or do you let Marner, do you trade

Martyr for pieces and then re-signed Kneelander for a nine and a half and you got Tavares and you got Nyes coming in and then with Marner you trade him and maybe you can bring in a guy like Toronto Toronto's gonna be an interesting team to watch in the next year

because they've got a lot of things going on Matthew's this thing yeah I'm saying Matthew stays is Matthew Stang I'm torn on this one I think he likes to be the big guy in the biggest market in the league I don't mean maybe New York's bigger but I feel like Toronto's kind of the mech of hockey. For Toronto's the place.

I think like Matthews likes that. And he makes a lot of money doing commercials there. Dust. I'm going to say he goes. Sean. Yeah, I think money talks. I think they're going to pay him whatever he wants. So I think he goes to.

Awesome. So Sean says two and two. We got a scotch bottle on that. We're still waiting to get paid for the other one, eh, Jay? Doesn't Jay have to buy that one for being the worst worker? It was a long time ago. and old guys. Vancouver Canucks.

Here's one for Bert. Can they find cap space for real this time is the question. And it goes on to talk about whether it's Jim Rutherford or Patrick Alvin. The Canucks front office has talked about wanting to create more cap space, but several decisions made have added cap hits. Vancouver, in fact, enters this summer with the highest projected cap hit in the NHL. I don't mind Vancouver's team, but I hate their front. office. To me, that is where the problem lies. I don't think it's necessarily the team.

It's a strong world. There's, when you're, when you've got Trevor Lyndon that decides to leave as you're saying there's some issues there, there is definitely issues going on there. When they talk about creating cap space, I'm like, what are they sitting over a fire trying to make something? Like, it's not freaking complicated. If they have the worst cap space, like, I'd like to disagree with Harles, but I agree 100% with them. I think they have the worst management in the league. I think they've got a disaster tire fire on their

hands right now. I think there's a lot of great pieces there, but I think they should blow out the whole front office, start they have a woke front office to begin with. They didn't even at least with the reliefs, you know, Haley Wickenhizer's top all-time female player ever actually

played in the men's league and this is who they brought in. Vancouver Canucks are doing things for the woke community and the whole management system is making terrible decisions and that team is just how do you have a team that is mediocre some nice pieces but mediocre and have the worst cap space in the league like that just speaks to what i've embarrassment of a front office from what i've heard is the owners are too involved within the day to day operations there and that is the problem.

As an owner, if you're not sitting in the box, smoking a cigar and drinking a little scotch, you're doing it wrong. Vegas. Who's going to be the opening night starter in between the pipes? Thompson. I agree. That's your future. I don't even think they resign Aiden Hill.

I think Aiden Hill, because of his playoff run, will require much money. We'll get 10. I think they, yeah. Jonathan Cook's gone. Hill's gone. Is Braswolde back? Yeah, I think they'd bring Braswold. Brassova.

Brassoz a restrict, unrestricted free agent as well. Well, and they still got Robin Lenners somewhere flying in the wings. Yeah, he's injured reserve. Not a crazy team. Four goal tenor, five goal tenors. I'll agree with you. I'll say Thompson is going to be the starters as well. Washington Capitals.

Does O.V. Break Griske's record this year? Next year? Yep. How many is he behind? I thought it was two years away. I think he's two years away. I thought he was two years away.

But I think he does do it. I think he gets there. I think he's too. They had a different question. I was like, who gives the shit about Washington retooling? We all want to know if OV is going to retool. Well, they're going to retool. They're going to retool every year as long as they've got OV.

And they have some good players. Like, Carlson's good. They're going to have troubles getting back to a Stanley Cup. No. 74 goals back. He's got 820 in... He's two years away. Two years away.

Two years away? But I think he does ultimately get there. He's three years away because I think he starts to run into a little bit of injury problems and he can't quite... At some point, like, is he just going to score 40 goals a year until he's 50? He might. The way he's going to quit until he gets there, though, is he? No.

Will Washington trade him before it happens? No, because that's the legacy. You won your cup with them, and now you get to have the greatest goal score of all time who was a Washington capital. Just for marketing purposes, I'm not trading him. So here's, you know, you talk about slowing down. Here's the last how many years, whatever, it doesn't matter. 50, 33, 49, 51. 48, 24, 50, 42.

That's the last eight seasons. Yeah, and the 24 asterisk because he didn't play full season. Right. So you go two seasons. What did I say, 74? Right. What I'm saying is, is there's going to come a year, because you never think it happens with anybody, but there's going to come a year.

Like, even Crosby is the same, because Crosby is the same, because Crosby is only a year younger and just keeps putting up point per game years, right? But at what point do these guys not, so all of a sudden you're going to notice, and it's going to be more injuries. He's never going to say he got injured. But let's say he puts up 64 goals this year. Let's just say he only puts up 34. Then he only needs a 40 goal season.

You kidding me, he's going to be ripping the puck from everywhere. He's not going to, like, to me, I agree with you. They start to fall off. But not when Grecke's in sight. Do you know what? I think Jay's a little bit right. I think there's going to be some drama at the end where he's getting close, but then some things happen.

And everyone's like, wait a minute. Is he going to get there? And then he ultimately gets there. I agree. I think he ultimately gets there too. I just, you know, it's going to be,

start to get nicked up a little bit. And all of a sudden, he played 70 games and he scored 30, and then he played 63 games, and he scored 24, and everybody's going, is he going to get there? Like that said, yeah.

Winnipeg Jets, are they really going to blow it up? Blow it up. Blow it up. Yeah, 100%. But within saying that, they're going to blow it up, but they still have a nice nucleus

to start with, because they're going to keep Morrissey. and they're going to keep Conners, and they're going to keep Ailers. Yes. So they've got three really nice boss there. You just blow up the rest of it. Yeah, and maybe you're bringing in and Aden Hill. So if you're trading Hallibuck, are you trading him for Carter?

Isn't he unrestricted? No, he's got a year way. That's what they're talking about these guys. This is the year they've got to trade them. Otherwise, next year they're unrestricted. You're looking. So if I am the Winnipeg Jets, I'm trying for a young goalie. I'm trading Connor Hullabuck for Carter Hart.

Now, Philly probably doesn't do that. Philly. Once again, he's playing EA's four-tier. Can I get Carter Howard Convince him to take him? No, but at the same time, too, you've just got Aiden Hill, right? I would take a flyer on. Sure. So trade Hella Buck for other stuff and sign Aden Hill. Yeah. See, Harley should be the GM. Hey? Hey, I tell you what, thanks for, that's two and a half months

of, essentially, of the Brothers Roundtable, a nice string of I have nothing left to say. No, summer's holidays, it's time to, you know, we'll be back for, what do we, what do we, we figure opening night of the season. We've got to have our predictions of who's going to make the playoffs. I'm not coming unless I get that bottle of scotch on the table. Jay's got to bring the bottle of scotch. I will promise you guys this.

I will bring the bottle of scotch, but we've got to quit doing these in the middle of the day. Hey? Got to have one in the evening. I'm going to have to talk to his agent and be like, excuse me, he doesn't get to make demands until he pays up here, you know? I really,

out of all, anything Jason does, I think comments on trades or potential trades is the best, the best that Jay's at. So getting close to the, the draft or next season where all the trades happen. I don't even know half the trades, but Jay knows them all off top of his head.

Regardless, thanks for doing this, boys. It's been a ton of fun. Maybe next year we'll be at the NHL draft doing this, huh? Ooh, that sounds like something that S&P should throw in. Hey, I'm just saying we're looking for a major sponsor. All of a sudden, we could be doing it live from the NHL draft, the final one. Sounds like a lot of fun. I think that's a great goal of ours.

My wife would love that. All right, until next season, folks.