Shaun Newman Podcast - #458 - Amalega Francois

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

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Here we go. This is Amalega Francois, and you are listening to Sean Newman Podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Amalega Francois, and sir, I appreciate you hopping on, so thanks for joining me. Thank you, Sean. Thank you for receiving me. I am. It is a great privilege and honor to be with you and your listeners. You know, I got great listeners, and they've been telling me about you now for some time. But I'm just as eager as them to hear a bit of your story. I know I believe you're originally from Cameroon, a mathematician, professor or teacher. I don't know the exact breakdown of that.

I am. freedom fighter now all of a sudden or not all of a sudden but you know like it's like boom boom boom boom you got to tell us the story and i'm you take as long as you want to kind of break it down amylaiga because i'm i'm curious by it and i think the audience will be as well yes i'm really happy because for me i know that the fight has not ended there are still a lot of things you have to go through so i i i'm really happy to be able to share my story i know that many people have lived a similar story and it is important to know that you have done you have not done a mistake because many people have stayed in the old world in the old fashion of seeing things following the narrative

but we have decided to to follow a way and have lost many things in the social aspect of our lives we have not done a mistake we have chosen the good path so it will be it is I'm happy to be able to share my story here in your program. You originally from Cameroon, correct? Yes. And you grew up there for like your first 30 years of your life, essentially. Yes, I came in Canada, in Montreal, close to 34 years. So I was, let's say, 33, and that is when I came here to Canada.

Well, tell us a little bit. You know, I've never been, Cameron. And I'm curious, like, could you tell us about the first, you know, growing up there and some different things about it? I don't know, I haven't been there, maybe someday, but be very interested to hear what life in Cameroon is alive. I invite you to come and see. Cameroon is an African country. I might take you up on that, Amalaga.

You can offer a way we go, you know, anyways. We are close to one of the largest country, I mean, in the population, in Africa. Maybe it is a third or fifth country in the world. Nigeria is a big country in the population. So Cameroon is there in the west of, in the east of Nigeria. We are francophone and anglophone. Differently from Canada, the majority of population is francophone, and I am from the Francophone part. Cameroon is 80% of francophone and 20% of Anglophone.

So there are Cameroonian who speak English and don't understand French, even though the majority of population is francophone. We have huge forest, yes, a huge, huge forest in the south of Cameroon. In the north, it is going towards the Sahara Desert. Yes, because at the top, you have, like, Chad and then Lydia, the Sarah desert in the top. So the country is like in the south, it is big forest, and when you are going up, it is becoming a bit of desert. So we have there, there are good food there. Well, how is, you know...

The size of the country is about one-third of Quebec. Because you know that Canada... One-third of Quebec? Yes, the Cameroon. And what did you say the population was? It's about 27 million. Okay. So the population of Cameroon is not far from the population of Canada, but it's one-third of Quebec.

You have to know that Canada is a huge country, a very huge one. You know that, for example, if you take Quebec, Quebec is five times France, France, the country. Quebec is five times by the population of Quebec is you have to multiply the population of Quebec eight times to get one of the population of France. So in the size Cameroon is a bit like that. We have been a French colony and you have been also a colony of England in some sense. That is where I grew up. And I was born there and I grew up. up, I studied maths. I had a bachelor degree in pure mathematics. I had a master degree in

teaching mathematics and I taught mathematics in Cameroon for about 11 years. And then I did the immigration process like permanent resident. I came like a permanent resident. I did an immigration process in the category of in French we say Travae Permanent Permanent workers category so the process was good for me and so I came I entered Canada the plane landed in Montreal on the 13 of March 2012 I the date is important for me it was the first time I was leaving my country was the first time I was going into another different country. Up till now, I've gone only in two countries.

I mean, I've been in Cameroon and only in Canada. And the 13 of March... Sorry, when living in Cameroon for the first 33 years of your life, if I remember correct, you hadn't been outside Cameroon? I've never been outside of Cameroon. Why not? Oh, it's not easy like traveling here. Yeah, it is easy to travel to go to many countries.

To go from Cameroon to another, even the bordering country, you need a visa. And it is not, you need money to do that. It's not cheap. It's not cheap. The financial aspect for a Cameroonian is not easy. You have to know that for me to give you a comparison. I was a civil seven working for the Cameroian government. I was a math teacher because differently from Canada, because when I came here, I realized that a teacher belonged to me. I was a math teacher in the college, Collège Jean de Brebeuf, is the greatest college in Quebec.

So, but I was belonging to the college. But in Cameroon, you does not belong to a college. You belong to the government. It is the government who pays you. It is the government who sends you to a college. So the government can remove you from a school, a secondary school or a college and transfer you somewhere else. So I was working. So somebody who is a match teacher working for the government is like an average citizen.

You are not rich, but you are not poor. You are like an average citizen among Cameroonian. So I was an average. But my salary, my monthly salary was about $400, $400, 400,000. 400 Canadian dollars. That was my monthly salary in Cameroon. When I arrived here in Quebec, the room I was renting

was about $385, so almost $400. So meaning telling you that, but the room I was, I was renting a room in, we were many people in the same house. I was having my room. So what I was needing to rent my room was almost the monthly salary I was having when I was in Cameroon.

So you have to see that the, I mean, the, yes, inflation or I can say the, the level of life in Cameroon is low. So it's not easy to be able to travel just to go and see things all around. Many people have more basic things. They want to feed themselves. They want to go to school. So to have extra money, to be traveling, to be sing places, all that one. many people does not have really money or time to do that yes and many people have villages so sometimes when you really want to to rest you can go to your village where you are close to the nature and things

like that but apart of that many people are more fighting for or the living to yes for that so when i arrived in Canada in 2012 I went back to school because I knew when I was coming that it was very difficult for me to have a job with my Cameroonian certificate but before going back to school when I arrived in March I started working in April but I was working in a in a shop there was a magazine IGA I was working the whole night

we were putting a product stocking shelves yes yes so I do it so I did it for about a week and a half then I started walking into a restaurant

like I was cleaning plate things yes I did it for about let's say five month towards August the month of August beginning of September, I came to Montreal because I had admission in University of Montreal,

in University of Montreal. So I started back a master in mathematics, in pure mathematics. So I did a master in algebra at University of Montreal. And I continued to the PhD in, in how can I say it in English? It is a mixture of number theory and algebraicometry. You're really, really smart. It is a really geometry. But what happened is that I did all the, because to have a PhD in the University of Montreal, at that time, you are supposed to take five courses.

After that, you have to do three PSG exams. After that, you have to write a thesis and do it. So I've completed all my five courses. successfully. I successfully passed my three PhD exams. Then I started doing the research for the testes. But at the same time, I had a job in Collège Jean de Brebeuf, is one of the greatest, if not the greatest college in Quebec. I started a job there like a match teacher. But at the same time, I continue with the research, but in the work. But at the time, I took more teaching, and all what were evolving,

were getting more time. So I didn't completed the PhD. It's one of the things I intend to do. Because I... How long after you come to Canada, you talk about working a few different jobs, going back to school, getting your master's,

working after your PhD in mathematics, and I can just imagine what that entails. But then you get back to teaching. How long does it teach? take from entering Canada getting back to teaching? Let's say I came in 2012 and I started having a, I started teaching in that school in 2016. So it took four years essentially to get back to basically not your dream job, Amalega. I just mean that that's where you wanted to be.

That's what you were doing in Cameroon and it took four years of your life to finally work your way back. to where you're doing what you have spent your life trying to do. Yes. At the same time, I was doing a teaching assistantship in the university, but that was just student work. It was not really a job that you could depend on need to take care of a family or something like that. It was just a student job, teaching assistantship.

Yes, so, yes, those. In the three years later, I became a permanent teacher at that school. So let's say around 2018, 2019, I became a permanent teacher. I was teaching like, yes. And then... So the exciting times though, is basically what I'm pointing out, because I look at, you know, coming across, not knowing what to expect, going from a country that's 80% francophone into a country that's almost the complete opposite, right?

Like we're kind of the opposite of that. And certainly size wise, or like area wise, like you have a lot of, like you have a country, one province and compared to the rest, right? Would have been an interesting culture shock for you, I assume, and everything else. Just trying to set the stage, I guess, for where you're at now, because I think it's important for people to understand. Like, when I listen to this, I go, oh, so you came over in 2012, I assume, and because of, you know, opportunity and everything else.

When I hear $400 a month and I hear that you haven't visited anywhere outside of Cameroon, and you just go, oh, okay. So if I do 2 plus 2, I get to Amalaga wants better opportunities in life. Am I wrong on that? Coming here was really a good opportunity for me. It was a choice I made because it increases the capacity in the social aspect. I was able, while I was working here to help the people of my family back in Cameroon, I was able to do things.

I was not able to do where I was there, when I was there. You have to know that in Cameroon, for example, when people, somebody is sick. If you go to the hospital, if you don't have money, you can easily die. So I was able, for example, to take care of my parents when they are sick or to help them build this and that. So at least when you send back $100 in Cameroon, you make a lot of money. As I told you, $400. In 2012, when I came, $400 was the salary of a match teacher working for the government. So $400 is not enough for a student here in Canada.

But $400, a match teacher can live with that. So coming here was a choice I made to have a good. better life to have a better yes to improve in in life and to be able to help people around me yes and even in the political part of the of the Cameroon has made some progress in the freedom of speech in some political aspect but still Cameroon has a lot things to do a long way to do well that Could you talk about that just for a second? I'm just kind of curious because one of the things you have over so many of us is you've spent a huge chunk of your life in a different country that has different laws, different ways of doing things, and honestly is in a completely different stratosphere when it comes to weather and size of country and everything else. When you talk about free speech in Cameroon, can you paint us a picture of what you mean by that?

What does free speech in Cameroon look like? For a long time, I mean, that was when I was about 14, 15, 17 years old. Newspapers sometimes were coming out all blacked. I mean, when I say all black, it means that when a newspaper has to come out, there was censorship. In the newspaper? Yes, newspaper, physical newspaper. When a newspaper was coming out, they were a bit like when they are putting out. when the FBI or CIA put out some documents they put black everywhere so you have the

document or when Pfizer released some documents you you have the document but you cannot you cannot read something i mean you have some sentence but when you read it you don't have anything so the things were done like that in cameron but it has improved there are many i have to ask um you're saying you get by the physical paper and you have the physical paper and you're even through it and in the physical paper is lines that are just blacked out yes yes I mean when you think the physical paper like less let's say this is for example truthers yeah I mean druthers yeah okay yes okay if you take a physical paper if I mean here it can be all right you can read it but if the government realized that

there are two or three articles in the journal that does not please to them they would just at that place they would just put the black lines i mean when you open the physical there is nothing because every time a journalist or a journal were supposed to go out he was supposed to go through censorship but that was back like 20 20 years ago but you still but you still remember that as a kid yes no no i still remember it was i mean it was really strong at that time but in that aspect it has really improved even though some journalists have been uh have been accidentally dead i mean some i mean when you see a journalist that is really troubling i mean that the the regime is having the problem with them sometimes you can have like an accident date but what i have realized is that in since 2020

the situation of freedom of speech in quebec in patrick in patrick in patrick particular, Quebec has gone behind Cameroon in the freedom of speech aspect. Can you say that line one more time just for everybody hears that? Because I think that's, I have a hard time believing that and we're going to hear all about it. Yes, I can tell you when I came in 2012, Quebec was far ahead of Cameroon in terms of freedom of speech, even though Cameroon has done a lot of work because of the pressure of the pressure of of country like France, England that were asking Cameroon to move forward in the democratic aspect.

But since 2020, Quebec has gone back behind Cameroon. There is more freedom of speech in Cameroon than in Quebec today. The situation has slightly become a bit better since the confinement has reduced, but the situation in Quebec is far, far behind of Cameroon in terms of freedom of speech. And when I see even the way,

the social life, people does not see it, but I see how the social life is, is degrading. I don't know if I pronounce it well. Degrading. Yes, because Quebec is very rich, Canada is very rich. People does not realize how things are going down,

in the social aspect of life, the cost of houses, the cost of life, things are really, really becoming difficult for many people, especially for those that are average and have a family. It's becoming very, very difficult for many of them. But in the sense of freedom of speech, it's very, very difficult. For example, for me, for my Facebook, my Facebook is open but is almost blocked. It's difficult for me to use. I'm always blocked and I'm not only the one. And there are many people in Quebec their Facebook has even been deleted. YouTube, everything.

You cannot appear in a public media when there was debate concerning COVID, vaccine, all those things. They were just speaking about us, putting words in our mouth. but they were never giving us the possibility to defend ourselves. So they were able to take words from our mouth, put it in a program. And when somebody takes words in your mouth, he can tell you, he can decide that. I mean, he can put an expression in your, in your mouth. Do you understand what I mean? He can choose sentence and put it in many things.

And what you say become different from what you were saying in the beginning. So the freedom of speech is really, really bad. And I've even seen it, seen something that Barack Obama have said in America. It is recent. He was saying that for the 2024 election, they have to control the narrative. They have to destroy all the independent media. Barack Obama have said it. And that is where the Western world is going.

And somebody coming from Cameroon, the Western world, The Western world has always been an example for freedom, an example for human rights, an example for many aspects. And it has been one, even though it was not perfect, but the Western world has really been an example even in the way people were living. I mean, people were not poor. You could be sick. You go to the hospital. You are taking care of even if you don't have money. even if in some parts you were supposed to pay something after. But what is happening is that when we were going through some situation in some African country, we were sometimes looking to the Western world to be able to help us, at least to speak to our government that we're receiving help.

But what we have realized now is that what has been going through in many African countries is happening now. Because in many African countries, there have been. presidents that were president of the country, a citizen of the country, but that were not working for the well-being of their country. They were taking personal advantage, having mansions abroad. But when you see what the things they were doing, they were doing things for Western people. I mean, not only West for people in this. The people outside were taking advantage of our countries. What is happening now is that in Western country, people like

Justin Trudeau, people like Joe Biden, people like Emmanuel Macron in France, there are people or you can even speak about something like in Zelensky, or I can speak about Francollo in Quebec, they are not working for the well-being of their population. You can see that those people are put in place. Now the difference is that they are not put in place by another country. No, because in Africa, for example, you cannot be a president in Cameroon if France has not accepted. So when the person who is president in Cameroon is working mostly for the interest of France. But what is happening now is that in the Western country, there are people that have been put in place not by another country, but by a group of people that want to establish a new world order. And that is not a, in French we say complotist. In English, the word is, I mean, people, theory of the complos, something like that.

That is something that can easily be checked. Those people that are working, like Justin Trudeau, they have been put in place by the World Economic Forum and some other. Do you mind if I ask Amalega? You know, it's funny. I don't know if the word you were looking for was conspiracy, but... Conspiracy, that is what I... I think it's fascinating.

You know, when we get talking about Canada and certainly I don't think my audience will have any argument with you, but certainly other people who aren't as well-versed in it may look at it and go, yeah, sure, sure, blah, blah. But you just said something that, you know, I knew, and then as soon as you said it, I'm like, I think that's fascinating in that Cameroon, a president, has to be okayed by France before you can have the president. So, like, the people of their must, like, I guess I'm curious. Like, what do you folks look at that? It's like, we're already screwed before it even starts, right?

Because France has to okay it. Can you explain a little bit about that? You know, I hate to pull you back to your early years, but once again, I'm like, one of the things that I find interesting is this is literally happening. across the world in different spots and has been going on for a long time. You got to experience where basically in order to become president of Cameroon, you had to have the okay of a different country. That seems so like foreign to me. I don't even like that idea.

It's like how isn't the riots going on in Cameroon? The first thing is that it is not official. I mean, it is not that the France has to say that we have accepted. It is not official. But it is a The battle around the presidency It is clear the The money of Cameroon is printed in France

Not only the money of Cameroon The money of 14 African Francophone country is printed in France When somebody wants to be President of Cameroon You have to have some good relationship with high place people in France and not only in Cameroon

in Ivory Coast it is the same thing. It even happened last time that a president in Ivory Coast won but France was not happy with him. French soldier went and removed him physically and they put some someone else. The people that are leading

or controlling the economy are France. And so you cannot What stands against the interest of France in Cameroon and you stand for the interest of Cameroonian and you hope that you will be able to conquer because the army, even the army of Cameroon have what we call counselors that are military from France. So French military are counselor in the in the Cameroonian army. Many Cameroonian high-ranking generations,

have gone to school in French military school. So it is like there were, we have been a French colony in a sense, but it has never ended. They gave us the independence, but it was just a way of giving it, but they kept the control of things. And in a sense, it is what is going now in any Western country. Some groups

are putting in place people and Klaus Schwab have said it. It has infiltrated, yeah, absolutely. It is happening in the United States. It is happening even in France. When you see Emmanuel Macron in France, it is obvious that Macron is not working

for the interest of France, of French people. He's not even listening to them. Last time in France there have been a massive protest concerning the retirement age, because the retirement age was, I think, 62 years old. He wanted to increase it to 64. And the assembly refused. The people were protesting for, I think, more than a month.

But there is something in the law that enabled the president to force it, even if the population refused, and he did it. And not only that the life is completely destroyed in France because of somebody like that. So it is the same thing in Canada. So that situation for me, when I arrive in Canada, and you can see how things are turning around. And you can see how what I've been told to you is dramatically changing. And you see that country like Canada, I mean,

Canada in the world is one of, I mean, before 2020, if you go all around the world, Canada is the paradise. I mean, it is one of the top country. But when you see how things are changing completely and when you see a guy like Justin Trudeau, the way it despise the population, the way it do things, that is not Canada. And when a guy like me and people like me see it, the idea, many people told me, why don't you go back to Cameroon? I could go back to Cameroon. But for me, I knew that it is not a question of a country.

It is the people that want to, the globalist, realize that the Western country have been the base of freedom. in the world. So they know that if they succeed to control those countries, they will succeed to install the new world order all over. So they know that if they take control of America, they take control of Canada, England, France, all those things. The rest will be just as easy to control it. So that is why for me, I know that even to fight for Cameroon, the fight is taking place here because it is not the freedom of Canada, it is not the freedom of Cameroon, it is not the freedom of France, it is the freedom of the world we are fighting for.

So running away going to Cameroon just to be able to enjoy one or two here in advance, it is just a waste of time because if they succeed here, they will succeed all over the world. So for the world, we have to stand here and now. That is, yes, that is the situation we are going through. So many people in their head, I understand that many Canadians, and many, I can see it in Quebec, for in their mind, they are asking themselves, I mean, they don't realize that it is possible that the government can work against their population. Yes, for many people, it is completely impossible. But for me, it is obvious because there are many people that have come in my. many African country, many dictators have been put in place by Western country.

England has done it in Iran. France has done it in many countries. Even the United States has done it in many South American country where they put in place a citizen of that country. The citizen and his family and his close friend benefit material things. But in the head of the country, they are working for the well-being of the, of the, of the, the country that put them in place. So it is the same exact same thing that is going in place now.

The only difference is that the people like Trudeau, Biden, Macroog, have not been put in place by a country, but I've been put in place by some obscure groups that want to take control of the world. But all that is written in many books. It is not something, it is written in many books that they are want to install a new world order all over the world. And how to do it, a good general know that is useless to go and fight in Ethiopia.

It's useless to go and fight in Cameroon. It's useless to go and fight in Guatemala. If you succeed to submit the United States, England, France, Canada, all that, you know that by succeeding to control those strong places, the rest will just fall easily. So, let us, man, I don't even know where to go from that, because I think you put it very powerfully. To me, like, hearing that is very, um, I think you did it, like, put it very succinctly. Bring us up to speed because I find it like, you know, to fight for Cameroon, the fight is here. I think that's like, whoa, okay.

So lead us through, you know, what you're facing here in Canada because, I mean, you got hundreds of thousands of dollars of tickets against COVID things. You got, you know, it was only, what, like a couple weeks ago you had got attacked by Antifa in the back alley. And it's just like it goes on and on and on. And I'm looking and I'm going like, who is this guy? He's like the Cameroonian superhero of Quebec over there. You got to bring us Western Canadians up to speed on what you've been doing and trying to do. and if any of it's been working, because, you know, I'm married to an American. And once upon a time, well, I mean, when it comes to citizenship and things like that,

it's like, you know, if you've just been a permanent resident, they just would have booted your butt back to Cameron and would have been done with. Now, having your citizenship, they can't easily do that anymore. Yes. So now you're a real thorn in the side. You have to tell us a little bit about what you've been trying to do in Quebec and what our government has been doing to you. So I've been working like a match teacher in Collège, Jean de Brebeuf in Montreal,

for let's say in 2020 on the 13 of March when they decided to lock down, to do the lockdown in Quebec. I was working there. I was happy with my job and I was, I mean, it was a good social work. I mean, I was happy for that. Preparing even to buy my house. I mean, in my head, in the summer, I was supposed to. to buy my house. I was supposed to go to

Cameroon for about a month to come back to continue my life. Everything was well in place. So the COVID came. And when the COVID came, I was not against all that. I mean, I took the Prime Minister, Françalo Gough, Quebec. I took him seriously. So there is a pandemic coming. We have to take care of ourselves. And there is even a group of Cameroonian in Montreal, with whom we meet usually.

they invited me maybe two days later so that we can have a dinner together and speak. I told them, have you not heard what the Prime Minister have said? You have to take care of Serbia. I'm the one who tell them because for them, but

so staying in the house, not having many things to do, because they told us staying in the house for two weeks to flatten the curve. I was not having nothing to do, but at the same time, I was paid. So I was going in Google, YouTube, everywhere, typing COVID-19, COVID-19, SARS-Cov, to try to know all what is about.

Then during that first week, I came, I met, not that I met, I saw Didier Raoul. Didierreau is a French professor of medicine. That has been, since the beginning, he has been saying that with hydroxychloroquine. he is taking care of the patient and people are fine with hydroxychloroquine. So when I discovered that, I told myself that maybe the people, the leaders of the world have panicked too much. Because for me, they were since I was really, I was not opposed. So when I heard about the general rule, I said that, okay, surely they are going to, because I saw who he is, how is a university professor, not only that. He is a, a university professor.

not only that is leading one of the biggest laboratory and hospital in Europe and the world. But I was surprised that while I was discovering about Dejera Wood in the second part of March 2020, Dejira Wood was already a controversy in France since the month of February. When he was speaking about hydroxychlorotin, they were insulting him in all the media. So for me, I knew that is where I realized that there is a problem. Because if you are in front of a new sickness, and you say that you don't know anything about that, and you see a specialist of that sick, I mean, on that area. Yeah, that's significant. Yes.

He's proposing something. It may be a mistake. Maybe his proposition is not good. But when you don't even take time to listen to him. You start insulting him. He means that there is a problem. It's just like my house is cutting fire and people come to help me. I start insulting them.

I don't want to take their help. So there is a problem there. So that is where my eyes got open. And I started listening the press conference in a different way. Because the press conference, they were coming almost every day from Monday to Friday. I started realizing the contradiction in the measure. I started realizing that in one's part, they were saying that they don't know anything. I mean, they know a little about the sickness.

But at the same time, they were having a lot of authority when they were putting out the measure. I mean, if you don't know a lot of many things about something, you are a bit humble when you put out your recommendation. You cannot know a little bit, but you have such an authority. And with time, there are many. other things that became very clear to me that it was obvious that there is no pandemic there is something manufactured but before that time at least there are many things for me that were clear for example the kennedy for me it was clear that the official version was not true for me i was not agreeing with the 11 9-11 official version so and even the moon landing for me it was obvious

you take detail that is not working at this when you you start asking some clear question it does not work and the evolution and many many other things so i realized that the way things are going for me it is clear that it is one of their multiple scum so i started going to protest i was putting things on my Facebook. I was putting video articles concerning, I mean, things that were showing that there is no pandemic. I was having a lot of argument with people on my Facebook. But what you have to know is that there were many of my colleagues in the Collegence de Brebeuf that were my Facebook friend. So they were seeing all those things. They were seeing picture of me or video of me going to protest. So what happened? is that they reported it to the hierarchy of the school. First of all, I was met, but maybe to shorten the story,

I will go directly to the biggest one. And in the end of September, 2020, I took a picture of myself in the metro of Montreal without a mask. Because in the month of July, they'd say that, The mask must be, you have to wear masks in all public area that are closed. So in the end of September, for me, it was obvious that there is no more debate. There is nothing they want to do. They just want to oppress us. So for me, it was clear that civil disobedience was the way. We have to disobey and to refuse.

Because all the proof were outside. I mean, nothing was working. The contradiction was. was full. So I took a picture of myself in the metro without the mask. I put it on Facebook and I said that civil disobedient is a moral duty. So what happened is that at the end of October, the director of human resources of Brebeuf, she called me into a meeting. we were every one of us were in his house

so she and we were three of us me are and the president of the union of teachers so in that meeting

she came she was very she was having an angry face with authority just to she told me that she showed me

on her phone the picture she told me that do you recognize the picture I said yes it is my picture it is me. She told me that first of all, you are going to remove that picture from Facebook.

You are going to stop criticizing the government. Third, you are going to submit yourself to all the sanitary measure. Okay. So when she said it, I replied to her quietly that I prefer to die of hunger than to go against my conscience. I told her that clearly in the beginning so that she should understand that if she wants to use the fact that the college is employing me and paying me and if I don't want to be cheat,

maybe they will suck me. I told her that clearly in the beginning. She went back. So she stopped. And they left me from that time. They didn't know. And in the month of December, even though our classes were

distance classes. I mean, we were teaching a bit like here and the students were in their houses. In December, the college succeeded to have exams physically. So we were having students in the school just for the exams. And I was taking, I was there working. I mean, I visit La Surveance. I don't know how to say it English. In vigilating, something like that, taking care of controlling students. but I was having my mask on my chin. I was having my mask here, not even in the mouse nor in the nose. So there is one teacher that was seeing,

that was my Facebook fan and he knew all what I was saying. And he saw me and he told me that, put your mask on your nose, just with authority in front of students. And when I saw that, I didn't want to create any problem. I put the mouth on the news and I closed that and I went out of that.

area and I put back the mouse I didn't just want to create any confusion so I put back on the team but I was going moving because I was in charge of like six classes outside but they were teacher in each of the class I mean it's like if a student want to go to the toilet I can escort him not inside the toilet but clothes or if a teacher want to go and do something I can replace him in this class for some few minutes so I was just outside. In other days, I was taking care of a class. But on that, when I came back, all the students were already in the classes. So he was in at the door and he was waiting for me. Because he knew that while I was passing, I would push back. But when I came back,

my mask was on my team. He told me, put back your mask. I told him that take care of your classroom. I'm taking care of the corridor. So he took his phone. He wanted to take a picture of me. I put my hand like this, but I saw that he was fighting to take the picture. So finally, I turned around. The mask that was on my chin, I remove it completely. I told him that don't take a picture, make a video. So finally, and he went and reported me to the director of human resources. They called a meeting again with the president of the union.

They asked me, I said that, yes, it's all right. I don't deny. I was having my mask on my chin and all that. And they suspended me for three days without salary. And then everything went back to normal again. And the exam finished. We marked the exam and the fall session ended. But things became worse because, I mean, I continued to go to protest.

There were no problem there. But Quebec is taught a curfew. And the first day of the curfew, if I remember, was the 9th of January, 2021. That was the first curfew in Quebec. And there is a protest that was organized. We were not many. We were about 20 people that were protesting. So on that day, there were many cameras of many stations, and there were many policemen.

But we were about 20 people that were protesting. So the camera, they were. It means that on the, that was, I think, a Saturday. It means that on Sunday and even that Saturday night, I appear in many television. I mean, not only me, because you were 20, all the 20 people, we were not many. So they were in the, they make some, in French we say reportage in the news.

all the people that were protesting we appeared because we were not many. So I appear many times and there is even one journalist who asked me many questions and what and not only to me, he asked to all the people that were there because you were not many. And one of the questions

he asked me is that are I not afraid of the ticket? I told them that because in Quebec if you don't wear the mask in a protest if you challenge the curfew is 1,500 dollars just one time they give it to you so that is why i told him that i told the journalist that i am more afraid of lies and and in french we sell a panse unique like just thinking in one sense i am more

afraid of that than of ticket so what happened is that on monday since i appear in many media that woman again the director of human resources she called me again And then that was in that meeting, she told me that now you are not only on your Facebook, now you are going to media. So they suspended me for two weeks. And during that two weeks, and many things happened, but I will not tell you the whole story is a long story. But during those two weeks, there were many meetings trying to convince me, trying, but for me, it was useless. because I for me was clear that they are going into a specific direction. So I start, I continue doing some

a few challenge with people. And one day I decided to go to the to the police station, to the police station during the curfew. And I told to tell them that I'm not respecting the curfew. I want them to put me in prison. And my idea was, and I made a Facebook life, my idea was that many people should come with me in the sense that if we are 500, if you are 1,000, they will be unable to put us in prison and they will even be

unable to give us tickets. So they will just be a shame. For me, that was the way to peacefully conquer them and challenge them when they give an order and we have many people to disobey. Peacefully, they are just unable to implement what they are doing. So during that process and they realized that I was not submitting. Finally, they hosted a meeting now. He was not with the director of human resources. He was the director of Brewerf himself. And he told me to close my Facebook.

I told him that no, he's useless. I cannot. It's impossible. They are just wasting their time. And they said that some more, I will have some, how can I say it? that they will punish me more harder than all what they have done and that those things are coming. So seeing all that and seeing all what was going through, I wrote my resignation letter.

I gave to them and I told them that they are the one that were supposed to encourage me to have to be thinking freely, like a school that encourage knowledge and all those things. And they realized that there is a contradiction because during the two weeks where I was suspended, I had a lot of meeting where they were trying to show me things, but I was showing them that the COVID and all what is going through is nonsense. So finally, I resigned and I went fully into protest. And I organized a lot of curfew challenge because we had a curfew until the 28th of May. I organized many curfew challenges. We were going to Quebec. We were coming to Montreal every week,

challenging the curfew. And in Quebec, when we were challenging the curfew, they were coming because we went into all the big police station of Montreal. We were going in the curfew. Many people were coming and they were telling to the policemen that we are not respecting the curfew. They were just giving us ticket and sending back away. They said that.

But in Quebec, when we were, went there we were fewer they were arresting us and they were putting us in jail until the morning so what i was telling to the people is that if we are 500 they will be a shame they will be unable to do it but still many people were afraid because the goal was not to collect the ticket the goal was to be as many as possible we can be so that and peaceful so that the policeman should realize that they can no more do what they want to do That was the goal of that dose action. But they end up putting you in jail.

Yes, because you were not supposed to be in your house from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. So when we were organizing the protests, we organized the protest in front of the Ministry of Public Security. I mean, the head of all the police. What happened is that in front of when they came, they told us that if you don't go, we will give you a ticket. and we take the ticket and now they say, go. When are you refused to go? They said that we arrest you until 5 a.m. So that because if they release you, you will continue to challenge the curfew.

So that you should not be able to challenge. Because when they were giving me the ticket, they said, no, I'm not going. I'm still, I'm staying here. So they arrest us. There are some few people that stay and many people were just coming. And at the time of the curfew, they were going back. So we had many protests in, we were going into. shop without mask. We were, I mean, many, many, we were doing many things. But what happened is that

the number of time I've gone to to a police station and spend a night, I cannot count. There are so many have to sit down and count them. But the number of times I've gone to prison. The prison is four times. The first time was about four days because I organized a protest into a shop, a Canadian tire. We enter there without a mask. So I went there twice. They arrested me and they put me in jail, in jail for about four days. The second time I went into a prison, I spent seven days. And the reason they put me in prison for seven days is because that was in September that they arrested me for seven days.

But why? I went into the court. because I was accused of police obstruction. Let me explain you why. In the month of March, I went into a shop without a mask. I was alone. So I did the shopping without the mask. And the people, they didn't want, they were shouting after me,

but I went into the self-service. I paid myself and I went out. But meanwhile, they called the police. So when I was ready to go, I saw the police. And I came. I told the police, mind that the person you are looking for is me. The police told me that, okay, don't do it again? Do you understand?

I told them that, no, I have the right to shop without a mask. Okay, they told me that give us your driving license. I gave them the driving license. And they were going towards their car to make me a ticket. while they were going to their car, I entered into the shop without the mask. So they came behind me running. They arrested me. They put me down on the ground just like that.

And they accused me of police obstruction. So and now that was that happened in March 2021. Now in September, 2021, I was, I went now in court for that accusation. now to enter into the court you have to wear the mask now i enter into the court without a mask because for me it was obvious i am coming into the court because of a mask it has never been a problem to enter into a shop without a mask since before 2020 the reason i am here in court is because i enter into a shop without a mask in front of two policemen and they came and they arrested

just like that I never fought with them they just I was just entering I was even surprised because I've done it many times entering into shop the policeman came and they tell me go out they insist I go out but I was surprised that while I was

entering they just came like I was going to kill somebody they just arrested me put me on the ground I was really surprised that they went so violent and physically. So now I say that I'm not wearing the mask. The people that were taking care of the, I mean, the security people of the court,

they told me to go out because I'm not wearing the mask. We had a little bit of argument, but finally I went out. Outside, they went and said, they said that the judge is saying that when it will be my time, they will come and take me, but I have to wear the mask when I will be passing. But when I will be inside the room, I can remove the mask. I told them that no mask will touch my face. So finally, they came some minute later and they said that there is an arrest mandate against me.

So I waited in front there. I spent seven days in jail because I refused to wear the mask. that was the only reason. So I had all my trial like a prisoner just because I refused to wear the mask. So and many times we had many actions. We continue. I continue in many action of civil disobedient because on that day, they condemned me. The judge, the prosecutor even told the judge that compared to what I have done,

I've already spent too much time in prison. So for the prosecutor, it was that they should declare me guilty and they should set me free because I've, I mean, what they are accusing me for, I've done more than that. But the judge was not satisfied. The judge, I mean, and I'm just cutting the story short because that one is a whole chapter because that judge even changed. But the judge said that, no, he condemned me. but he gave me a probation. He said that for one year, I must keep peace. I must not disturb all.

That was just the way to keep me. All over a mask. Huh? All over a mask. He wanted to give you a year probation for not wearing a mask. Yes, and he gave me a year probation. He gave me a year probation. And that year probation, I must not disturb peace.

I must. But that one was that if I want to do any action later, a policeman can just arrest me and say that you are troubling the peace and put me back for for bridge bridge of condition. I knew that, but I told that there is no problem. I would be bridging all those conditions. And that I continue all the action. And the third time I went to prison, it was in November,

because I heard that the Prime Minister of Quebec was going to hold a meeting with businessmen in Chauvinigan. Shavidigan is a citizen in Quebec. I succeeded to enter there and I tried to speak to him. I was like 15 meters of him. They arrested me again and they put me in jail. In jail, maybe I spent five days, I think, in jail. And I mean, on that day, they arrested me, but they released me three hours later with a document on that day.

And the document was saying that I must not be close to the prime minister, three hundred matter to the prime minister in shall be negat they arrested me i spent three hours and they release me but what i was not knowing at that time i was not knowing that when they give you some condition even if you don't agree even if you say that i disagree once you take the condition and you go out with the condition already the condition is working so that i was not knowing that so for me i took the paper i went out but i said that no for me that but i was not knowing that the condition is working so uh i think the the next day the prime minister went some somewhere else and i went there so they arrested me that i spent five days in jail and they gave me that condition again i must

not be to close 300 meters to him but what happened is that on the 16th of january 22 the Prime Minister was supposed to go to a program in CBC Radio Canada. And we organized a protest around Radio Canada. So they arrested me because they said that I breach my condition. And they put me in prison. And they wanted to release me so that I can wait my trial outside. And they wanted to give me a lot more condition. I must not be 300 meters.

I must respect. all the sanitary measure, I must. I told them that, no, I'm not. Now that I know that once you accept those conditions, I remain in prison. So they wanted to release me many times. I was refusing. A time they even said that they will reduce the 300 meters to 15 meters. I told them that if you, you are putting such a dangerous man so close to the prime minister is bad.

I refuse. So I stayed in prison for three months and three weeks. Three months and three weeks? Yes, they arrested me on the 16th of January. And I was released on the nine days, something like that? Yes, and they released me on this nine of May. But it is a long story because there are many details inside. I would not go through them.

So for me, it was important not to accept the condition. For me, it was important to say that if I am a dangerous man, keep me in prison. If I'm not a dangerous man, you have to set me free without a condition. And that is finally what I obtained. So because for me, I told him that if you release me, the next thing I will do is exactly the reason why you arrested me. So that is, I mean, there are many things I have just been, because you spoke. Yeah, absolutely. I got to know.

You know, like when you think about it, and I don't know how often you do, but like, I don't, I don't know, this is, I don't know if I've heard a story quite like this. You know, I had Tamara Leach on, and of course she spent, I think it was 48 days if memory serves me correct at one stint, right? Or maybe that was combined. I can't remember now. When I hear that, I'm like, holy dinah. And then the next thought is, you know, and maybe this is the philosophical side of me coming. out but like I'm like okay when you look at it did you know when you move to Canada did you ever think you be the one going to jail for three months like I don't I don't know maybe you can answer this bro wreck were you doing things like this in

Cameroon or it's just in Canada you start going a lot like listen this we civil disobedience is the only way and no you will not tell me how to think and act these different things like in Cameroon were you doing this or is this completely new to Omega Amalega in Cameroon I've been engaged in some protests. And I've been engaged in some protests. The is about the, I think about three main protests I've been engaged in Cameroon. But in the general, the protests were concerning because one of the protests was because when they were supposed to pay us like teachers, because there, there was a lot, there is a lot of

corruption. In Cameroon, I worked like a teacher for the two first years I was not paid. We were working without paid. But it is normal. When they pay you, they pay you all those two years. Like you start working, but you put your file. You worked two years and didn't get a paycheck? Yes. I mean, because when you start working, you put your file in the ministry and they are treating your file. And after two years, they pay you all that money and you continue being paid. So I started working in 2001. I got my first salary in 2003. But from 2003 until when I came to Canada, I was paid every month. But from 2001 to 2003, I was working without any salary. But since we were civil servant we belong to the government. So during that time, from the time you start working,

you go and put your papers in the ministry and they are working on those papers. So finally, when it is finished, you get. So the first check you receive is a big check. It's two years of salary. Now, when you want to go and collect that money physically because you go and take the check, before they give it to you, there is a lot of corruption all around. So they were asking us, you have to leave 10%. So they don't need, they don't need you to give you the physical money, because they are the one paying you. So when you agree, you just agree that I give 10%, they just show you another room. They give you your money without the 10%. So they just collect the 10%. And that is how many people were just doing it but we we organized a big protest finally they pay us everything there that

whole group that whole month everybody was fully paid because we organized a big protest in town another protest i was engaged in it was in the school where i was working at that time i was already a not a teacher i was being paid every month there are there is a group of teachers because they were not enough of teachers. Parents gather in the village and they give some money to help new teacher. For example, I told you that I worked for two years without salary. What is happening is that when they send you into a village like a teacher, parent can gather, they can find a room.

They give you, you're just in a room, and the school can try to find you something, and you can also try to have some, to do teaching assistantship just to live. But the problem is that teachers that were younger than me, the money the school was supposed to give them. But that money is coming from parents, meaning that in the village, parents give an extra money to help new teachers because those teachers have been sent by the government, but they don't get half their salary. But they're not getting paid. But that money, that parent gather, the director of the school, want to take that money for himself. yourself, you understand. So I organized a protest again there. And that was, and that protest, even the, the, the, the, the director was obliged to pay because it was a very bad situation and even the police came and all those things. But about three protests, but I was not really a man of protest when I was in Cameroon. So when I was coming to Canada, I knew that I was coming to a country of, of law. So for, for,

me I knew that I will never do something wrong. So I would never have a problem with the police. So for me, it was obvious. And since 2012, I knew that they have to work hard, go to school. And that is all what I've been doing. And in 2020, for me, it was obvious that I would never encounter police. I would never encounter police that I don't have any problem. But I was not knowing that because I was saying something that I was ready to defend concerning COVID, because I refused to wear the mask in a shop or in a metro, I could have problem and go to jail. It was far beyond my thought. But what is driving me is because I realized that since there is nothing like a pandemic, since they have implemented those things, it is just the way to

demand their new world order. And for me, if they succeed, all the freedom we are having is all over. So there is, in no way we have to keep silent. In no way. In no way we have to submit. The problem is that generally when we accept some few conditions, they, I mean, they jump on that to increase their authority. Give an inch, they take a mile. Yes, and the other thing is also that when we want to do civil disobedient, many people are afraid. For example, like the curfew or the shopping. But the problem is that you have to start somewhere.

And when we have many to do that, they would just, they would not be able to do the, they would just go back. Yes, go back. Well, I think, you know, for my eyes, the convoy to Ottawa was case in point. Sure, they froze some bank accounts, and they certainly jailed a few different people and everything else. But public support was behind that. And so immediately all things started coming off, and they started singing a different tune and everything else. And it's just trying to get public support behind what you're doing. And honestly, it's funny.

It shows how big our country is, how diverse it is, and how little we talk to one another. because Emily, I'd heard a bit of your story probably in the last month, let's say, since I first reached out. Because the first time I got shared your name, I was like, who? I have no idea who that is. And we're in the same country, you know, on opposite sides, I'll be that. But we're in the same country, and I hadn't heard your story. I can't believe that I haven't heard your story more, you know, and certainly you've been, well, I don't know. I've seen a couple different interviews now where I'm starting to piece it together.

but regardless, it's trying to let people understand what's going on in our own country. Because, I mean, like, the fact you're, you know, if I do my math correct, over 100 days anyways is simple. You were put in jail because you wouldn't accept conditions that were basically around protests, wearing masks, et cetera, is, I don't know, astounding. It is shocking. I don't know the word. I mean, we have a...

I thank the freedom convoy because he has been one of the greatest action of the resistance against this tyranny. I think in the whole world and it does, it has a great impact. And I even think that the apparent freedom we are enjoying now in Canada and is one of the consequences of that convoy. I was unable to participate on that convoy because at that time I was in prison because I was arrested in the 16th of January. And for me, it was impossible to go out from prison and not to go to the freedom convoy.

So if I went to the freedom convoy, they would have come and arrest me again there because they would have said that breach of condition. That is why for me it was impossible. In the first time, I was not knowing that when they give you a paper with condition, even if you say that I will not obey it. Once you take it and you go out, I was not knowing that. That is why I, but things that, after that time, I say is no way.

But there are many part of my story, but things you have spoken a lot. That is a bit what I've been going through. Actually, there are many things that we are going, I mean, you have been organizing protests concerning vaccine, concerning the drag show in the public library and the LGBTQ movement that is pushing a narrative into schools and all those things. If adults decide to do what they want to do, let them do it. We cannot fight against adults. It is the freedom you are fighting for.

But when adults go to schools and push a narrative to children, push children to do sex transition, which are literally damaging their life and damaging their future, all that. And now we have many other challenge, like the CBDC, that digital currency. And because if they succeed to implement and the Bank of Canada is doing a survey actually, I think the end of the survey is on the 19th of June, a survey on the digital currency. and when they put the digital currency and the identity numeric, that is what you say in French, they have put everything together for the control. In French, we say that he's only in place,

the architecture of oppression, I think it is Edwin Snowden who said it, that they are putting in place the architecture of the operation. Now, they have done many things with the COVID because they have passed a lot of law that and they have not denied those laws because the way they are doing things in me is that if they realize that there is a pandemic they can put it back again for me i have 98 000 more than 98 000 of covid tickets and i've received many letters where they say that i have to pay it if not they will put me in prison the last they have been already recognized guilty for $69,000. And normally since the 13 of May, they are supposed to arrest me. Because they said that

if I don't pay, I have 10 days. The last letter I received, the letter was written on the 27th of April, but I received the letter on the 3 of May. On that letter, they said that from the time I will get the letter, I have 10 days to try to find an arrangement. Either how I would want to pay or I would do community work. Community work was about 850 hours of work. And they told me that after 10 days, if I have not tried anything, if I have not looked for an arrangement, they will come and arrest me. So the 10 days was ending on the 13th of May.

And I told those people, because the people that came to give, I told me that I'm not calling anybody. I'm not making any arrangement. And I even posted that letter on my Twitter. I posted the letter. And I wrote on top that I'm not looking for any arrangement. I'm waiting for them to come and arrest me. So since the 13th of May, they are supposed to arrest me.

I don't know why they are not coming. For me, it is important. I will never pay that money. I will never, never, never pay that money. Never. Because when they will implement the digital correct, They will do like they have done in the convoy. With the digital currency, we will not be able to have the physical money again.

So all the people like us will have a different thought. They can block a part of your money or they can blow froze your back account. So what will happen is that with the digital currency and while they will remove all the physical money and they are going towards that because the $100 that, that the le bier de a dollar they will remove it they will be removing everything so they will have complete control so from that time either you obey either they block your money and that is even more dangerous because you are free but you cannot do any transaction so for me i will never never trust never try to do any arrangement and i want them to arrest me because he will show that the COVID does not end it. Because why would they arrest me? They will not arrest me because I've

killed something, somebody. They will not arrest me because I've stolen. They will not arrest me because I have been harassing a woman. No, they will arrest me because I was not wearing the mask in protest. Because I was not respecting the curfew. Because that is all those $98,000, dollar they were collected in that in the protest i don't wear the mask they give me i challenge the confute they give me all that that that is why i collected them so it means that the covid is not ended even though they have removed those things they they don't regret what they have done and they are ready to implement it because they could easily say that all the covid ticket they forgive everybody but no they are collecting the money so that is why for me trying to look

an arrangement now with them is just like cleaning a room and then taking the dust and throwing back the dust i've done that civil disobedience and i've told many people that i don't want to pay them and even if they put me in prison if somebody paid that money for me that person must know that it does not love me because it is important for me they must not have a single dollar from that so they must face their contradiction they must face what they have done there are many reasons why i cannot i cannot pay that they have committed crime and i will not help them to put the dust under the carpet so for me the fight continue we have a lot of things and one the fight is that I am really, really, and one of the thing is that I've told the people that have

many things they have done in 2020, I'm ready to forgive because many people were afraid. For me, I believe the COVID for seven days. I believe the narrative for seven days. So many things that have happened in 2020, I easily forgive the people because we were in a difficult situation. But now I want to see the name of the judge that will sign my arrest mandate in 2023. We'll all what we know concerning the vaccine, with all what we know concerning the lockdown, with all what we know concerning that.

So I will not help them to put the dust in the carpet. I'm not paying a single, a single dollar of that money. Well, sir, I've appreciated this. I've kept you a little longer than what we initially agreed to, but I appreciate you telling us your story. and giving us details and everything else. It's been an interesting little sit down here. Before I let you out, we always do the final question

by Crudemaster Transport, so shout out to Heath and Tracy. If you're gonna stand behind a cause, stand behind it absolutely. I can tell right now Amalaga stands behind a cause, but what's one thing Amalaga stands behind? I don't understand very well your question of my English. Sorry, I'll ask it again, And the words of Heath MacDonald, he said, if you're going to stand behind a cause, stand behind it absolutely.

Exactly. What's one thing Amalega stands behind? I stand behind the truth. I stand behind the fact that detectorship must not be installed in the world. I stand behind the fact that Justin Trudeau and many people like him in the world have decided to suppress free speech and the possibility to have a debate in the society. Because if the law was really in active in Quebec and in Canada, we should have never been in a situation like that. So, yes, there must be justice for all the crime that have been committed. And we know that

what they are doing for is far beyond the COVID. They have a long program to put us in jail, physically in jail like we will be outside in French we say in a prison a skyl like 50 minutes cities and all that with the Chinese

credit social so I'm standing for that and yes until the end I appreciate you giving me some time today and it's been well I appreciate you coming on and getting to meet you here albeit through a screen

It's been an interesting little bit getting to hear your story. And while let's stay in touch and we'll see what the future brings for us. Thank you, Sean, for receiving me. It was a privilege and another. Thanks again. Okay, folks, that'll end it here today. I want to make sure that everybody knows this was brought to you by Calrock Industries here in Lloydminster, use surplus, frack sales and production tanks with new and used and refurbished oil and gas equipment in stock.

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Anyways, I keep finding out more and more new things here. in the old world of Canada. And either way, we'll catch up to you on the next one. And once again, I'm almost tongue-tied as to what to say to all that. Either way, I appreciate Amalega coming on and doing this. And we will catch up to all you fine folks here in, well, on the next episode.