Shaun Newman Podcast - #495 - Drew Weatherhead & David Parker

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

Drew host the Social Disorder Podcast and David is the founder of Take Back Alberta they hopped onto an impromptu podcast to discuss bringing James Lindsay to Alberta where they have had their venues cancel on them and now Eventbrite cancel refunding all tickets. Let me know what you thinkText me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastPatreon: www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast

Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Drew Weatherhead, David Parker. I don't think either of you need any introduction on this side. You've both been on the show multiple times. Drew, I've certainly been on your side. David, I've been on your side. Who am I kidding? I think we've all kind of interacted now over the last couple of years.

So I don't know. Let's hear it because, I mean, today, James Lindsay was literally on the podcast. He was episode 494. We were talking about him coming up beginning of October. he's going to be in Calgary, he's going to be in Emmington. And by the time, you know, I'd heard rumblings when I was recording that at the end of last week, you know, the venues were pulling out. And since then, it just seems like it continues to, I don't know, grow lags and run away here.

So wherever you want to go, boys, I just want to try and shed some light for my audience and hopefully for a little bit of Alberta, Saskatchewan to know that a guy like James Lindsay, who, you know, when I sat and listened to him, I didn't go, this is the most extreme human being on the planet. You know, let's not make sure he comes to our province or our country. But anyways, whoever wants to hop in first. I'll start off here and pass it over to David. It's been pretty crazy over the last few weeks.

So we've been planning this event for a couple months now. We've been back and forth with James. He's a very, very busy person. He's an American who speaks full time. He's writing four different books right now. He has two different podcasts, and he constantly guests on other podcasts like the Joe Rogan experience. Jordan Peterson, the Sean Newman experience, social disorder podcast. He's got a busy, busy time with important people. But we found some time to bring him up to Alberta. I don't think he's

ever been. And he is one of if not the best forefront speakers when it comes to the understanding of woke ideology, what they're trying to do, why they're trying to do it, and how to prevent it. So for those reasons alone, he's worth anybody's listening who is concerned about the way that our culture and society is going. And we decided that we not only wanted to bring him up to bring that into Alberta to help us fight back against us because it's prevalent in Canada, even including Alberta, which is one of the most, you know, freedom-loving provinces. It's a province that the trucker convoy started from, you know, but even as such, we're bringing him up to speak specifically against the gender ideology and the trans push in schools for kids, very, you know, woke-centric,

and we can get into all of that ideological stuff as we go along here. But once we went live with this event, we had our venues picked out the week before we went live with ticket sales. One of them signed a contract. The other one was a tentative, yes, we were just waiting to sign the contract on the Tuesday. So we released the ticket sales on Monday. Over the weekend, one of the venues backed out, which was in Edmonton. And it shocked me because it was a church. It was a church that backed out specifically they sent us an email that said that they don't support him or his message.

And I was like, so implicitly what you're saying is you support the opposite. You would like for there to be more trans ideology in kindergartens and more trans story hour and everything else that we're trying to, you know, figure out how to prevent the ideological infection of for our kids. Cool. Thanks for telling us that, Life Church in Edmonton. We now know where you stand. That was a set back right away at the beginning of the week, right after ticket sales,

you know, go live. And then a couple days later, on the Tuesday, when we were supposed to sign the contract for the place in Calgary, we get a call back from their manager of bookings. And she's mad. She's mad that somebody had said that we could have the place. And she said, you absolutely can't have the place. She didn't give a reason, but she was very rude and said, no, you can't have it. And I mean, fill in the blank why that might or might not be. But we found ourselves with ticket sales live.

People were buying them up. But the venues are nascent and we've got a poster with the wrong venues on them. So we're like, we're spinning our wheels here and trying to run around like chickens with our heads cut off for the entire week of the launch of this thing. And then as we're starting to rally later into the week, we find a venue late into that week for Edmonton. We're still searching for a venue for Calgary. We've searched around like 12 different places. And we get to the end of that week. And I get this text from David in the morning saying,

what's up with the ticket sales? I mean, I was like, what you mean? It's like, people are trying to get to the link and the link is broken. I'm like, what you mean the link is broken? So I go to Eventbrite where we're hosting this thing. It's a pretty typical place to host. You know, it's like the YouTube of ticket sales. It's either that or Ticketmaster.

It's one or the other, right? So we've hosted on Eventbrite. And I go there and it says that there's no sales. I'm like, what the heck? There's no sales in either. We just had like 200 in the last couple days. Like, what's going on? Where are they?

And then David gets some, some tech. message coming in from people who bought tickets saying that they got a refund on their ticket. I'm like, okay, what is going on here? And we go into the email that's set up for Eventbrite through Take Back Alberta, who's hosting this event. And there it is. There's an email saying that against terms and conditions for hate speech, we are not going to host your ticket sales on Eventbrite. So now all of our tickets are no longer sold up to the point that they had been. We are down a venue after being down to venues. And it's just nonstop, man. Like, I don't know who exactly. is out there trying to stop us, but there is a serious, serious push against this.

And I mean, let's be honest, probably part of it is that James Lindsay is very loud about these things and aggressive and he's pushing back hard. And I think a lot of Canadians are not used to that. And when they see someone who's actually fighting back like James Lindsay, like yourself, like Sean, like me, that can upset them. And then when we, I kind of, I'll be honest, I took kind of took a baseball back. to the hornet's nest of the woke and was basically like we're bringing james lindsay we're going to push back again says we're coming for the school boards i was on ryan jesperson a little while

ago and mentioned that our plan is to get you know common sense regular alberton's elected to the school boards instead of these crazy ideologs that are pushing like why are we talking about transgenderism with kids in elementary school like kids in elementary school don't know whether they're a cat or a dog or a human often. Like they're, you know, I remember I love playing games. I loved, you know, playing all kinds of different things. Like I really liked wolves and I was obsessed with them. And in this modern era, maybe my teacher would have told me I was actually a wolf

and that I needed to, you know, only rob meet who knows, right? It's, we live in an absurd world and James Lindsay as the best articulation. And we've listened to a lot of people. I've listened to a lot of podcasts, probably between the three of us, We've interviewed some of the most influential people in Canada and even in the freedom movement in general. And I would say that James Lindsay has the best articulation of what we're up against, of anyone that I've ever spoken to, listened to, read. And I was very excited when he agreed to come up here because we're just Canada, right? Americans often think of us as an afterthought.

but he was willing to come up here due to events at a very low cost to be honest. Someone of his stature could command a lot more money, but he's willing to come up here and try to help us. And the reason I wanted him to come up here and why I thought it was really important, I was actually introduced to him both as a thinker and as a person by Drew, because Drew is always looking for more guests, just as you are, Sean, just as I am when I'm running my podcast and so he actually got a hold of James Lindsay and got him on his podcast and through that a little adventure he was able to say hey we would love it if you'd come up to Alberta and he agreed

through that conversation with you drew right yeah and I mean to throw it back to Sean here because I'm curious to get your thoughts as we sort of try catch people up on this whole shenanigans right now there was a point when we released this not just the ticket sales at the beginning of that one week, a week ago, but social media-wise, right? We put a big social push out there, and David put it out there, and you sent the poster that I made,

which you can see in the background kind of a little bit right now on my side. It's clearly eye-catching, and you know that it has something to do with trans because of the colors, and that got pushed out on social media through David's side on X and a couple of other different platforms. And James Lindsay has close to, to half a million followers on Twitter or X. And he's friends with a lot of, like I said,

influential people like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson. And Peterson reposted or quote tweeted what James had put out there, which David had put out there. So through this chain of like one degree of separation, we ended up getting like close to, I think, 750,000 impressions the first day that this thing went live. So when we're talking about a hornet's nest, it isn't just in Alberta.

This was worldwide. I was looking at the interactions on these posts compared to his regular posts, and it was high. It was probably like in the top 5% for interactions on either of their platforms on X, whether it was James's or Jordans. Yeah, I think you guys just explained it quite well, right? You just, you didn't realize, and maybe you did. You know, David's talking about hitting the hornet's nest with a baseball bat, but you stirred up the whole hornet nest. I mean, if we've been joking about before we started. about X and our followings and everything else.

But, you know, as far as it goes, Sean Newman, Jordan Peterson, right? Like it's not even in the same screen. And so eventually you just have all these eyes. And they're going, they're going to send them where? No, we're not bringing it. Just think of how many people you pissed off. It's probably not as many as I think because most people don't even, you know, not that they don't know who David Lindsay is, but, you know, I'm going to argue my audience,

there's going to be a huge chunk of them, never heard of them until this morning. And then they're like, holy crap. And this guy's coming to Alberta. We should go see him. And the fact, you know, I put on events. You guys, like, to have all, it's deflating to have all that work undone in the first week, right? Because you're all excited. Okay, ticket sales is starting to roll in.

Now they've pulled everything. And in fairness, they probably went, well, we'll push on them and then we'll get it out of here. They're not coming. The thing is, is they might have had a reciprocal effect. You know, like it might have, now you get things set back up. People start to realize nobody wants me to go listen this guy. I mean, all three of us can agree. When I see CBC slam somebody, I'm like,

I wonder what they said. I wonder if I could get them on the podcast to hear what they said. And so the more hard the harder they push on you guys not to allow you to have them, the more interested I'm like, well, I'm taking both days off. I'm coming to both shows now. I want to come see this guy in person. I want to see what he's really got to say.

And who knows? And maybe there's more that comes out of it. So the harder they try and clamp down saying you can't do it, The more I think you're going to have a whole bunch of people start to show up because now it's like, well, what is he saying that's so bad, right? When it's talking about, you know, just over Drew's shoulder there protecting kids, right? And let's be clear on this. Like the left is going to claim that it isn't about protecting kids, that it's actually about hurting kids, right? There's this notion that teachers care more about their children than parents do.

That is like a complete and utter falsehood. even bad parents generally speaking care more about their children than a teacher does like a teacher it's a job it's the thing they go and do i'm not saying that teachers aren't valuable members of our society of course they are we need them we need our children educated but to give the notion that a school or a state cares them more about a child than their parents is just it's counterfactual and it's the same kind of counterfactual that says hey if you're a man but you want to be a woman You're a woman. And by definition, right? Like where we've got a documentary,

probably one of the biggest documentaries ever made by Matt Walsh, that has over hundreds of millions of views now because he posted it on Twitter called What is a Woman? These questions are coming up there. They're the questions of our time, right? This is the, let's call it the cultural debate that we're up against. What is a woman? How sad that that is the question of our time,

but it is. What are we protecting our children from, from this lunacy, from this complete madness, this idea that reality is moldable by your emotions. And if you feel like you're in the wrong body, you must be in the wrong body. I'm going to call it out bullshit. That is a lie. That is a blatant, full-on lie. And we need to, we need to attack it to what it is.

Absolutely. In fact, it's something that we're seeing, I think, the effects of what has been a concerted effort since at least the 1950s. And I've learned this through listening to James because he's very robustly educated in the history of the dogma and the really the theology behind this sort of social push. There is a religion behind this whole thing and he takes it back. Like you can take it as back as as far back as Marx when it comes to neo-fascism or I should say neo-communism. But really in the 1900s, there was a couple thinkers that pushed what we know now is the critical theory. And one was Herbert Marcusa in the 60s. Another one was Paulo Frady from Brazil,

who he's the one if you want to see what is going on in our schools right now. Go read Paul O'Fraidy's work. And it's exactly a recipe, a step-by-step how to, to do exactly what we're seeing in the school right now when it comes to intersectional identity politics and how, to speak to David's point, reality is whatever you want to make it, right? And this is the idea of the philosophical deconstructionists through the, you know, a lot of them came out of France in the first half of the 1900s. David, or sorry, James talks about this a lot and how they come to the idea that reality is only as real as you think it is and truth is therefore as only as true as you want it to be. And if you, if this is your truth, who can say it's not true because it's for you, right?

And you have this deconstruction of any type of objective truth. And that's been going on for decades upon decades upon decades in the academic circles up in the universities and the philosophers of the last 50 to 70 years. But it's trickled down slower and slower and lower and lower down the higher education to the middle education to the lower education now that it's in our kindergartens that it's being pushed that we're going to indoctrinate the children that truth is whatever you want it to be kids and nobody can tell you different. And what do you think that's going to set up for society if we have no actual foundation of what is real, what is true? That's very, very dangerous precedent to set.

And it causes something that Yuri Besmanov, who is a famous KGB defector in the 1980s, said was one of the ways to bring communism into the West called demoralization. And demoralization is something, again, that James talks about. It's not like we want to make you feel bad, man, like you're demoralized. It's literally excising. It's cutting out the morality of a society. It's taking out, in the American sense, the American ethos of, you know, you can, you can survive and thrive in this society and replacing it with everybody is under oppression by the state.

And it's not oppression on the economic level like it was in Russia and China where it was very easy to turn people against, you know, the proletariat against the bourgeoisie to cause a Bolshevik revolution. No, in this case, it's against people were just born oppressed. You were born oppressed. You were either born black or woman or disabled or trans or wolf kind or whatever it is that's going to be a minority. As long as you're a minority, well, then you're oppressed. And if we can get the majority of people that are a minority now, we group them all together in this alphabet language to make them one big group, we can force a revolution. And we saw this starting to happen in the George Floyd riots in the year 2020, right?

We're in the middle of a pandemic. And what looked like ostensibly pushed back against a black man being killed by a cop, I saw within days a BMW dealership broken into and vandalized. and somebody spray painted on the side of a $200,000 car, eat the rich. I'm like, what does that have to do with a black man being killed by cops? This is revolution talk. And this is, it was the,

it was the head starting to poke out from behind the curtains of what's actually happening here. This is a concerted effort to demoralize the West to try to cause a revolution, which leads to any form of, you know, dictatorial communism, which has been tried to be pushed from the east since, I mean, the 19, whatever you want to say, 20s, 30s. I want to rewind one thing. David had mentioned teachers.

I always defend, because I think there's a lot of wonderful people. They get into that profession to teach kids, to be around kids, and I can never do it. I love coaching hockey, but when it comes to being around children every single day of the week, I can't imagine being in a classroom of like 20-some. One of the things that I found from James listening to them was how, like, subtle some of the, the things that are going on are. And so like, it's no different if I just rewind it to like COVID. You could just feel like something is off.

And when you feel that, you have to kind of explore why you're thinking that. And in the school system, you know, one of the arguments I just got in was, you know, we can't out kids. I'm like, yeah, but you're just telling their parents. Yeah, but the parents won't understand. I'm like, yeah, but I'm a parent. And if my son wants to transition, right, let's just throw this out there and say he does. You have to tell the parent, well, maybe you won't understand. I'm like, maybe I won't. But I mean, like, it's better than all of a sudden he's already a year into it and there's no

coming back. Like, and so that's been one of the things that I think is like when I hear that argument over and over and over again, teachers are wonderful. And they always say the parents need to do more. So I'm starting to see the parents do more. And the pushback has been, you know, like, I just don't think they're going to understand. And it's like, well, you got to give their parents there do you want more interaction from them well they're starting to get the interaction right the parents are starting to be like no I don't like this that's a child they have no idea what they want and certainly there is arguments to be made as they get older and everything else but if you listen to James one of the the things

he point clearly points out is how subtle some of these arguments are and how they just slowly creep in and I'm like I've been it's COVID 2.0 all over again I mean obviously this has been going on like Drew said for a long time but I think the we need people to come together and the thing about teachers are there are there bad apples bad apples in every profession out there and but for most teachers they're wonderful human beings they just don't realize like some of the subtleness of these arguments just like I probably don't realize some of the subtleness of a lot of different things going on that

I'm just not looking at and if you listen to James and I think it's probably why he's attacked so much sure he pushes hard but when he talks about it so clearly and eloquently you're like like oh yeah I actually did notice that and I just didn't quite I couldn't put the puzzle pieces together because I'm like what what is going on right now that I can't put it together you know when when they're talking about protecting kids right their big thing is this isn't going to protect kids it's like what are you talking about anyways I just I think there's a lot of great teachers that need to come out and listen to James as well right to hear his message oh absolutely

and and I thank you for doing that shot because I completely agree with you there's so many great teachers they're being indoctrinated too this is happening he goes through this in his book the marksification of education but he talks about how this is what's being taught in teachers college and not only that think about the kind of person from a personality perspective that becomes a teacher these are caring people these are people who genuinely care about kids like these are some of our best human beings when it comes to compassion, empathy, and also just, you know, they're also some of the strongest people. Like you said, being in a room of, I just had a son, my first born. Congratulations, by the way. It's, thank you. And it's been absolutely wild trying to take care

of one. I can't imagine doing 20 in a classroom, right? But what I'm saying here is, that doesn't matter in a sense. They are good people, but they are being used for bad things. That's as simple as it gets. Transgenderism, this idea of cutting off parts of your body, of taking hormones, this is not an old. There's no history to this. We did not have the drugs that we are injecting into children a hundred years ago. So you can claim this is natural. It's been around forever.

No, it hasn't. We are experimenting. We are doing medical experiments on children. And that is completely unacceptable. And so whether the teachers feel like they are caring about the child or not is actually irrelevant to this conversation. Because the truth of the matter is, this is a black and white situation. Maybe when they're 18, maybe then we can give them the choice. I mean, I unfortunately became a smoker for a while.

I was a terrible life decision. I wish I hadn't done it. But, you know, I smoked a lot of cigarettes. And I made bad decisions and did bad things to my body. And I had the right to do that when I was 18. And I believe that children should, at the point of 18, have the right to make some decisions for themselves. But before they're 18, it's the parent.

We have guardians. These kids can't go have a beer at a bar. And we say, oh, yeah, cut off your dick, you know, slash off your breasts. That's fine. That this life-altering castration that you're going to go through. Oh, yeah. well we wouldn't want to out them to their parents come on how ridiculous is this we've gone past the pale i think we need to call a spade of spade here we are talking about something that's demonic it's evil it's

pure evil and it's attacking our children and we need to protect them so yes teachers are wonderful and but their compassion is being weaponized to destroy children and it must be and and i would say parents are wonderful but if you sit on the sidelines and watch us go down right like We've got wonderful people everywhere. And if they don't come together and start talking more about this and getting involved in this to stop this, then it will get worse. Now, fast forward then to our conversation about James Lindsay. What has been going, so do you got a new venue in Eminton?

Do you need help there? We have a venue in Edmonton. Thankfully, we found one that TBA has used before, so they're not going to cancel us on ideological grounds. We're very sound on that one. Calgary's been a harder nut to crack, surprisingly. I thought it would be the other way around. But Calgary, the thing is, too,

we're not just looking for any venue. We're trying to find somewhere that can host a thousand people to come view this. But it's a thousand people, sorry, Drew, it's a thousand people on what night of the week? So Calgary is Tuesday, and Edmonton is Monday. Anyone listening, I really want to point out, it's a Tuesday.

I'm like, this isn't a Saturday night. This isn't even a Friday night. Heck, it isn't even Thursday night. It's a Tuesday night. night. I tell you what, we can, we can, we can, we can host it in Lloyd boys. I, I threw that out there. I'm like, I'm sure I can find us a venue out here for a thousand people out in Lloyd Minster show, uh, show James a real good time. But anyways, it's true. It's true. Calgary, uh, on a Tuesday night, there's got to be somebody out there who knows, uh, of a place that can, that can host a thousand people that would

be honored to do this. I have to assume. That's why I wanted to bring you guys. I really want to emphasize that, right? As much as what he's talking about. Like, It's a person coming to talk. This isn't, you know, like, I don't know. That's the way I look at it. And it's getting shut down in Alberta, of all provinces, Alberta. How about Eventbrite? Have we solved that issue?

Yes. So we have a platform that we use with Takeback, Alberta. We've been using for emails, phone calls, texts. If you get an email from Take Back, Alberta, it's usually coming from this system. It's a great system. by a lot of different groups. The Conservative Party uses it. The United Conservative Party uses it.

It's big in the States. It's called Nation Builder. And it's the back end for the website that we have right now, which is Taking Backalberta.com. And you can now go on there and the events are on there. And we've already sold hundreds of tickets through there. So I'm really appreciative of the people who are selling. We sold more tickets for a Calgary event without a venue

than we have for the Edmonton event right now. We don't even have a venue, but people are buying the tickets. So I'm very appreciative of what people are doing. So if you want to, and this is actually a good news story for Takeback Alberta followers. Our website has not been the best. It's not my forte. I go out to the public and talk to people. I was homeschooled.

My dad's a pastor. I'm all about community and people being actually physically present. And so we didn't do a lot of the website. But now all of our events are up on the website as well. Another reason we hadn't been putting our events up on the website is, you know, if everyone knows where we're going to be and what we're going to be doing, there's always a chance for protests. And there are a lot of people who are paying attention to Take Back Alberta

and are upset about Take Back Alberta. So we hadn't been putting things there just to make it a little bit more difficult for people to find out what we're doing. We've decided, you know, we're beyond that now. So both James Lindsay events can be found at Taking Backalberta.ca.cah Slash events. And they're both there, the Edmonton, the Calgary one. You can purchase your tickets there. I can promise if you purchase a ticket through our website, we will hound you with the location.

We will text it to you. We will call you. We will email it to you. So as soon as you've got that ticket, you can be assured. I mean, I'm a campaigner. This is what I do, getting people to reminding people of things they need to do. like voting. So we will get you there. But as it sits right now, so if I want to buy tickets to James Lindsay, October 2nd and 3rd, correct, in Emmington and Calgary right now, you can go buy

tickets, but as it sits, Calgary doesn't have a venue. As we record this, you're still looking for somewhere to host, which I'll put it through you this way. We have five venues that would be willing to do it at 500 to 600 to 600 people. It is actually quite difficult to find a location. A thousand person a thousand person venue. We don't have one yet. The Muslims are maybe going to be offering up one of their mosques potentially or one of their community centers. Wouldn't that be something?

They have a massive mosque that we've contacted in Calgary. It's one of the biggest in North America, they said. Yeah. So there's some, the Sikh community has been very welcoming to us and we're talking to them. Funnily enough, it's the white liberal establishment that seems to be upset about James Lindsay. I'll tell you right now, the Muslims, the Sikhs,

the Chinese, the Korean community, all of these communities, not upset about what we're doing. It is white, liberal, predominantly women. And here's the thing. It's not because they're bad people. I don't want to say they're the enemy. They're not the enemy. They are having their compassion weaponized against them. And they're being told that people like James Lindsay, well, all three of us on here and James,

peeking over Drew's shoulder there in the graphic. all of us are being accused of hating children and wanting to hurt them. And that's what people believe. Well, imagine this. Imagine this, right? We're talking about, and this is a typical affectation of left-wing politics, is that it is the more empathetic thing, right? It's the more humanitarian thing, the altruistic thing.

You know, young people, if you don't vote left, you don't have a heart, right? That whole idea is the problem with the extreme. side of that aisle when you get too far down on the extreme end of that because both sides have extremes, right? Everybody likes to talk about extreme right-wing ideology. What about extreme left-wing ideology? That's where your empathy gets weaponized against you. And you can have people that the biggest heart in the world that you could sit them down and they would tell you how they're protecting kids. And I could sit them down and say, so you are pro-child genital mutilation. And they would have to say, yes, how crazy is that? That based upon their empathy,

they have to say, yes, I am pro-child gender mutilation. And they don't get a say in it because their guardians have to make the say because they're not old enough to have informed consent, which interestingly, and Jordan Peterson makes this point, goes against the Geneva Convention. Or was it, what's the other one from the World War II? Nuremberg. Nuremberg, yes, it's against the Nuremberg Code.

Medical experiments or interventions that go without informed consent. And essentially, kids cannot have informed consent on their body. Their guardians have to give that, which is a by proxy consent. So they're going to have to grow up to the age that they have consent in 18 and maybe that point, or 20 or 25. And this is starting to play out with the stats because this is a new experiment that's been for like less than 10 years, essentially, where we're going to have new generations coming

up and having the regrets too late. Sorry, we made your choice for you when you were too young. We stopped your puberty and we sent you down the conveyor belt towards getting, you know, gender reassignment surgery, this gender affirming care, they call it, right? They use all these terms. It's like term warfare. This is Orwellian. It's Orwellian. This is double speak. This is 100% double speak. Gender affirming care. Are you kidding me? It is another thing that Peterson talks about is like, what psychologist that's worth his salt? What psychiatrist would affirm somebody's condition? That's not what they're there to do. Imagine a bulimic coming in and affirming their

condition or a diet, uh, um, uh, suicidal person and is affirming their ideation. You know what I mean? Like you're supposed to help them away from the problem. And they're calling this, um, transgender, but it's based upon, uh, gender dysphoria, which is a known psychological condition that's in the big book of psychosis, right? It's been around for over a hundred years. And we've got stats on this stuff and it doesn't follow the trend. Okay. This is not gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is something like one in eight thousand people. And there's, There was a school down in Ohio that Layton Gray talked about, that one speaking arrangement that TVA did. And he said that there was a, I think it was a ninth grade class where every single female in that ninth grade class came out as transgender in the same year.

I'm sorry, but I'd be checking the tap water around there because not all of them are one in 8,000. No. And that's the other thing that I think we have to really dig deep on. And I think Lindsay does the best job on. And that's why we've invited him out here. But we have to understand this is not about some kind of progressive idea of protecting people's rights and things like that. This is a social contagion. This is a religion that is being taught to our children in their schools. A religion that is anti-human, that is anti-reproduction, that is anti-spiritual, that is anti-Christian.

and it's anti-Muslim, it's anti-Sikh, it's anti-God, it's anti-human. And I don't care what God you worship, but if you're anti-human, you are my enemy. If you are teaching children that they need to mutilate themselves because their God-given bodies are not their real bodies, you are the enemy, and I will fight you. Like, I will work tirelessly in this democratic process to eliminate you from any to say. decision-making roles. And that's why we're bringing James Lindsay here is to educate people on this disease, this social contagion that is taking over our society. Like, it's gone too far and it has to stop. You know, this reminds me, once upon a time, my interview, and this is like folks back

episode like 194, right? And to put it in comparison, it's now 494 or 5, one of the two. Anyways, it was Dr. Roger Hodkinson, and he sat in this very studio, and people can love or hate him. It doesn't matter, because what he did to me that day is what you guys are doing to me all over again. I sat in a chair, and I was trying, well, it isn't that bad. And we're talking, you know, it isn't that bad. And he looked at me and, like, verbally pinned me to a wall if I can paint the picture, where he just yelled at me, and he was yelling at the mic, too. But he finally just said, you can't two-step this.

This is black and white. You know, like, let's use the terms here. And when you go gender-affirming care and use all the terms that have been created, it doesn't sound that bad. It's like, man, that's nothing that bad, right? But when you actually call it what it is, it sounds pretty awful. And I would say 90-some percent of parents are all going to go, don't want any of that. Not interested in any of that, right?

But when it's used in all these lovely terms and protecting kids and everything else, it sounds lovely. I mean, when you talk about term warfare. Like, I mean, that's exactly what this is. Like it sounds lovely. It just sounds lovely. You know, yeah, we're we're doing all the right things. But the deeper you go into it and you realize what's happening in some of these kids like holy crap, man. Well, imagine if the child, which has happened, we have many, many examples.

There's an entire subreddit called to be transitioning of people talking about how horrified they are and what they've done to themselves. But imagine you're a kid, you're 16 or and you know what? It's almost always narcissistic mothers that are promoting this in their children. children. And you can look into the studies. I'm not going to go into this. These are not kids that are making these decisions. It's narcissistic teachers and mothers who are pushing these kids down down these roads. And our society is allowing it. Our society is allow. And you know, it's all about virtue signaling. It's like, well, I'm so loving. I can accept my trans kid. Your kid can't make decisions on things as basic as booze. All three, David's a little earlier in the

process but Drew I know you have children I am children I can safely say my children have said some really wild things in the first well I don't know my oldest is seven so in the first seven years and everything in between and you're like what anyways you just move on but I mean you talk about society like it's praising it think of all the Hollywood stars that have transgender kids now yeah and like it's a virtue thing now yeah it's and you go like what the heck are we what are we doing here Sean I saw I saw a video I saw a video that had a

gender reveal party for a child that was already alive. I saw a gender reveal party with two moms that's where, you know, with all of the bright colored hair, and they have a two-year-old daughter besides. So clearly they've adopted a daughter. And they're

doing a gender reveal because their daughter has come out as a boy. And congratulations. Blue confetti goes up and blue smoke. It's a boy. It's literally standing beside you. you and she's a girl. And this two-year-old can barely toddle beside them. Like, what's going on? What's all the confetti about? It was so obviously, again, narcissistically delusional and abusive on these

children. So what is that child? Was that maybe two or three-year-old now, a daughter, have to look forward to for the next 10 to 13 years before they get to like a pubescent state where their body is making the decision that it was going to genetically make? And they're trying to and probably stopping it at that point, whether it be through these castration drugs that they use, that they use for sexual predators, I'll have you know, or if they're, you know, one step further than that, instead of just blocking puberty, as they say,

they're changing the physical makeup. They're basically doing surgical cosplay on this person that's going to have to live as something that they're just simply biologically not and hope that their capacities cognitively can cope with that for the rest of their life. It's a one-way street. You can't undo that.

It's madness. It's absolute madness. So a lot of people are watching these things happen, right? And they don't know what to do. They don't know how to get involved. They're horrified. I mean, I know a lot of people who don't want there to be drag shows at our libraries. And whether you like drag shows at libraries or not is irrelevant.

That would even be something we'd be talking about 10 years ago. It wouldn't have even been part of the discussion. And then these people say, well, how is this happening? How is there a drag show is happening at our libraries? And I said, well, I always ask. I always ask, I'm like, okay, so who's upset about this? And I've had rooms recently 300 some people. And every single person raises their hand.

They say, I'm against this. And then I say, how many of you are sitting on the library boards to make this decision? Not one. Well, I got a chuckle because I'm sitting in a conversation the other day. I was, you know, I was just sitting there flying a wall, and they were talking about this. And, well, they're just trying to normalize it. And that was what was said. And then the other person said, yeah, but it's not normal.

It's just, it's just not normal for a man to dress up as a woman and talk to a child about a book. It isn't normal. About sex. We're not, that isn't normal. And I was just like, like, I don't know. I chuckle about a lot of this, because I think a lot of parents, are against it. And I agree with, you know, pretty much everything you boys have said makes a lot of sense to me. And so you go, but I don't know what to do. Well, there's this guy named James Lindsay that's coming to

Emmington and he's going to be hopefully somewhere in the Calgary area. They find a venue. And I'm hoping that some people listening will be like spurred on to be like, hey, shoot me a text. Because, you know, as everybody knows, I got my phone number in there and shoot me a text and we can get that hooked up so that they have a spot and we can get this movement. Because one of the things James does is help people understand so that they can help out. So they can fight it. Exactly. How can you fight something you don't understand? Why do you think it's getting such a, why do you think it's getting attacked so much?

Because it actually starts to make sense and you're kind of like, oh. And it'll help give parents specifically, you know, I push on teachers to come. I push on a lot of people to go listen to them. I mean, there's nothing extreme in listening. That's all we do. It's all I do is just listen to people. You can literally walk out of the James Linner thing and go, that guy is smoking something I don't want.

That's fine. But he's just coming to talk and try and help explain what's going on so that people then can find what David's talking about of getting involved and understanding why they want to be involved in everything else. That's exactly it, Sean. That's exactly it. You know, when we talk about all these stories, like some of the things, in my back of my brain I always go,

that isn't that bad boys. I'm in Saskatchewan. It isn't that bad. I'm in Alberta, and I'm in rural Alberta. It isn't that bad. But, you know, then I had one of the moms from Lumsden on, and we saw what happened with Lumsden with the A to Z sex cards and everything, and it wasn't that big a deal, right?

And then you find out, it starts to come out. Nadine Ness did a great job of this of, like, really digging into it. But then you find out it's been in B.C. for, I think, upwards of six years, and they've had the same cards out there. And then you find out that it's been in Alberta two at different schools, and you're like, so this isn't just a one-off. Like, this isn't just a one-off. one-off. Like there's more to it. And then I find out closer to home, they found some of the

gender ideology books in the libraries. If I talk to Wayne Peters, it's out in Manitoba, it's sitting in Saskatchewan, and I'm not, I can't sit here and say every library. I can't sit here and say that, but I, but it's been found in smaller schools. I'm like, oh, okay, well that's, that's pretty tough. I was sent, I'll butcher this a little bit, but libraries in Saskatchewan, I assume this is the case for Alberta to have like a conference where they go and share ideas because there's somebody who manages libraries, right? And they had how we're going to basically get transgender books and et cetera into your libraries. That was their goal. And I've listened to it. I'm like, this is like very uncomfortable to listen to for me. So it's happening. It's like,

you don't think it's happening. Maybe it hasn't hit where you're at. Fine. But it's happening. And the more it happens and the more it creeps in, the more it's going to get closer and closer to home. So help support these guys in bringing James Lindsay to Alberta, because it's not going to hurt. Like, I don't see how this hurts anything. People are upset because in their minds, this is going to hurt kids. That's what, whether they're the greatest human being or not,

that's what they think. And so they're attacking it that way. And so if you don't think that way, you have to help support this. So that means we need to find somewhere in Calgary that they can have people come and show up to. Buy some tickets, go support it. So then James can come and talk and Alberta can keep bringing people like this.

Because if they shut it down in Alberta, you think it's happening anywhere else in Canada? I'm like not a chance, right? Like, I mean, this is wild. So I hope people hear that and want to support. And I want to be clear, they've done this to Jordan Peterson all over Canada. True. The number of times that, and we're not going, if we have to do this in a field with lawn chairs and like big speakers on. It would be more Albertan than that.

If we have to do it that way, we're doing this. This event is going to happen if we have to go to a farmer's field and set up lawn chairs, right? And it's going to happen. But they are going to try to stop it. And the only way that we can begin to mobilize against what's happening in our schools, as you pointed out, it's happening. There's no question. You can't question whether this is happening anymore. The only way we're going to stop it is we need numbers and we need people to be a little bit braver than they've been.

People are not brave in this country. They are cowards. We are surrounded by cowards. Well, then I was a coward once upon a time. I'll gladly jump on that grenade because I just think right now with the economic situation, the other thing, David, is people are freaking working their bags off to make ends meet. And so they just are working and they're trying to make ends meet and they're going as hard as they can. A few more people, though, need to understand that coming out of their shell,

you're going to run into people like David. there you know oh and Drew's here too and you'll probably see like 15 other people you're like oh oh okay this isn't so extreme anymore we're just we're just listening to a guy talk geez that wasn't so hard and and by listening to him talk i think you'll you'll get the the finally someone i found when uh drew introduced me to james lindsay's podcast we were driving up to bonnieville for a meeting i hadn't uh i hadn't heard him really yet i've listened to five or six bought his book i love what he's doing But when I listened to him and then dropped, drew off and kept driving home, because it's a long drive from Bodybuild to Calgary.

And I just kept listening to him. I listened to three or four was podcasts. At the end of that, I felt like finally it has been explained. I now know what we're up against because he's done the reading. You don't want to go and read all of this material that these people are writing. Like, they write a lot. Like these intersectionalists, they're all in academia and they just sit there writing. and he has read a ton of it.

And in reading it, has processed it and explained it. And I don't consider myself to be an unintelligent person, but I'm also not some super genius. I'm just, I'm a rural Alberta kid, grew up, you know, homeschooled, got my university degree, went into politics. But Dr. James Lindsay is a genius. And he is capable of processing information at a much higher level than I am. But he's also capable of explaining it to someone like me,

where I'm like, I knew this to be true. I've been fighting against the stuff going on in our schools for years. I'm completely opposed to this. But on the flip side, I didn't have the articulation that I do now. I didn't have the words to use the mental images to have. And by mental images, I just simply mean like models, the models to understand what we're up against. And maybe Drew, you could speak to that a little bit because you are good at analyzing these things

and writing your own books and your, further along this journey than I am. Yeah, well, you explained it very well there is that a lot of the distilled version of the very academic literature on the woke side right now has been distilled through the vector of James Lindsay. He's been being that mechanism between the layman and the academics be like, this is what they're doing, this is what they call it, and this is what it is. And so he identifies things really well. And what's better is he strategizes, this is what will make it fail. And he'll tell it to you directly like that. And to speak to all of the pushback that we've been getting on this event and, you know, kind of the silver lining in that they're going to

start actually actualizing and forming people to push back against this push is you don't take arrows unless you're over the target. And we're clearly over the target on this one because we're taking arrows every day at this point. It will. It will happen if we have to punk rock this thing, like David Parker was saying, if we have to do this in a parking lot or wherever, we will make this happen. They don't get a say on whether or not this happens. And they wish that they could, but they just don't. So this is, I don't often do this on my podcast or anywhere else, but I'm making this a direct call to action to people listening. There are $40 tickets. We've made them very accessible. So that's not a money issue. We're hosting them close to very large

city centers. So it should be an easy place for a lot of people really to get to. And it's general admission. So if you show up early, you can get right up stage front. We just need to get this information out. And we are putting our heart and souls into this thing. All of the effort that we're putting into this is not going to be in vain. I have full confidence we're going to sell these things out. So on that note, if you're hearing this and you are going to go buy a ticket,

there will be links in the show notes, I presume. Then you need to do it soon because I expect this is going to sell out before the actual events happen. And not that I'm any big deal, boys, but I'm going to go to both, and I was already talking with one of the folks, well, Tews is coming with in Calgary. So he's already coming. He's buying tickets.

So the Tuesday mashup is going to be there for the Calgary event. And we're like, well, let's, I don't know, let's go for like supper or something beforehand and meet some people. Because, I mean, if we're going to be up there anyways, and I'd throw the same idea out for Eminton, because I'm going to be there both nights. I want to come see what's going on. I'm going to support, I think, any time.

I see people in my province now, you know, born in Saskatchew and now live in Alberta, doing things that I think need to be supported. You got to find a way to support. So if that's, do your part. If that's finding a venue or if you know of something or if you can, you know, you want to come out and hang out, that's great too. And if you're like, oh, I'd love to sit and have a BS with Sean. Hey, I'm going to be in the area. So I'll throw that out there as well because I'm excited to any time I put on an event, I know how much stress goes on.

So I can't imagine people shutting it down and me having to rework everything. I'm like, there's already enough stress that goes into this sucker. And I want to just come and enjoy the night and listen to a guy speak and then be able to just kind of dust off my hands and drive home kind of thing. So I'll throw that on top. Is there anything else here, boys, before I let you out of here, just so people, you know, if they're listening, anything else they need to know, anything you want to direct them to, other than maybe where to get tickets, David, one more time.

and then obviously I think we've hammered home enough. If there's any ideas out there, just shoot me a message and we'll pass it along. Yeah, so if you want to buy a ticket to either the Edmonton event or the Calgary event, they're going to be happening in Edmonton on October 2nd. And in Calgary on October 3rd, you can go to Takingbackalberta.ca.ca. Or just go to Takingbackalbara.ca.ca. And click on the events button. it'll be able to find it there.

I'd also like to point out that we have five take-back Alberta meetings coming up. So you can come there and we'll have people there that are going to be signing people up too. Those are happening in Edmonton, Calgary, Lecombe, Medicine Haddon, and Lethbridge over the next month. So I will be promoting this event, the James Lindsay event, that all of those. And just for a note for people interested, we're going to be having the people that are running for president of the United Conservative Party at those events, giving speeches and making the case for why they want to be president of the United Conservative Party. So that'll be good.

So if you don't really like, if you're not technically savvy, although if you're listening to Sean's podcast, you're probably at least able to click on websites and stuff. But if you're not, show up at the event. We'll get someone to sign you up there. So really looking forward to this. And Sean, thank you for being a champion of freedom of speech and for having us on your show to talk about that. Well, boys, when it comes to my province, I've stepped on just about every landmine out there.

So what's one more? You know, it's like, let's step on one more. I got a quick question for you, David. Are you coming to Lloyd Minster? Like, you just rattled off like every town and city except for where I'm at. I'm like, I realize I'm on the edge of the earth, you know, being here in between Alberta, Saskatchewan. But, you know, Lloyd Minster is in the neighborhood as well.

Just throwing that out there. I don't have a captain in Lloydminster area yet. So if someone wants to step up and hold a meeting, I would love to come. Once a month, we're doing meetings in the five different regions. So maybe we do the Bonneville one in Lloyd Minster one of these times. Well, I got to fight late and gray. That's what I got to do. Is that what it is?

I guess that's what it. Well, Mitch semester. Come out to a take back Alberta meeting in Lloyd Minster. Well, Sean will leg wrestle late and gray on stage to stop. Oh, that'll get us a thousand people right off. Well, thanks, boys. Make sure you check out Drew's, if you haven't. Check out Drew's Show, The Social Disorder.

Of course, David with Take Back Alberta. And please do support. And if you can help in any way, I think it would be, you know, there's a short window here because, I mean, geez, what are we at right now? September 11th day. 11th, you know, like this is just short time frame of getting things canceled and trying to wind it back up. So if there's a way for people to help, please do. Either way, thanks fellas for jumping on short notice to do this and hopefully somebody out there can reach out and help you, boys.

Thank you, Sean. We really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me on, Sean.