Shaun Newman Podcast - #506 - Eric Hecker

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

He is former member of the US Navy and former contractor for Raytheon, a major U.S. defense contractor. Eric's position as a firefighter and plumber while working for Raytheon at their South Pole facility gave him unrestricted access to the compound. During his stay, he observed highly advanced directed energy weapons and other technologies beyond what we previously thought possible. He has also testified to congress under oath and hopes to bring his experience to the public for the good of humanity. Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast

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Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Eric Hecker. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Oh, you got it. Thank you very much for having me. I know this has been a bit of a bear to make this appointment occur, but I appreciate your patience, and I'm glad that we're talking.

Well, as I told you, this is my life. You know, some days it just goes so smoothly. In other days, you know, I was supposed to be on a short. show only like three days ago, two days ago, I think now as we sit here and record this. And my youngest son went to the hospital in the middle of the night. He's okay, nothing to worry about, well, nothing to stress about, I guess. But that really threw my next day into a bit of an array of things, as you can imagine. And so I had to cancel a couple things.

So this is just like, I'm not stressed whatsoever. We finally got you on. It happened at the speed of life. Exactly. Now, I, sir, have listened to you on Sean Ryan. I've listened to your testimony, and that's how I kind of got in touch with you. I'm sure there is a ton of people have no idea who you are. So let's just start there, and let's see where we go.

Oh, let me put that in a nutshell as best I can. My name is Eric J. Hecker, and I guess you would say I'm a whistleblower, most known for divulging secrets about what's going on in Antarctica, most specifically at the South Pole station. I do so with direct first-hand experiences, documentation, and I most recently was in Washington, D.C. for Dr. Greer's Disclosure 2.0. And in that same visit, I went and sat down with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the newly, I guess, created Department Arrow, A-A-A-R-O,

and I went to their skiffs and shared all of the information that I've been sharing with the world for a few years now. I'm glad that it's getting a bit more traction in the public and in the podcasting world with folks like Sean here, because it's, as people are learning, it's very important information, and I think all of humanity needs to start understanding that we're, I guess, in a new chapter of life. I'm curious, how on earth do you arrive working for Raytheon in 2010? In the South Pole, you know, my travels have taken me all over the bloody place, but never in my wildest dreams would I think of going there. And in saying that, I wouldn't be like, no, let's not go there.

It's just like, it seems so, like, how do you get there? Like, how does Eric eventually just end up there? Because it's not like, from what I've heard, at least, it's not like you're this weapons specialist guy with, I don't know, tell me the story. Because I'm like, how on earth are you, you know, how does a guy, go from wherever you start to there? I think that this is a big part of my whole deciphering my experience situation is that, you know, the answer to that question seems to be getting more complex, the more I ask myself that very question. And the answer contemporarily, I would put me

at a point of saying that I think I got to South Paul Station in Antarctica a lot less by what I initially thought was a free will decision versus the guiding hand of multiple factions through the years that took a vested interest in programming a kid into having certain competencies and capabilities for programs that they were slated for in the future. I think parents need to understand that there's a lot more going on with their children when they discharge them to strangers every day. And I would say that my childhood was ripe with peculiar agencies. And I would say that similar to my time in the United States Navy, which was short, but I was being trained to fire up to end, including nuclear missiles. So I would be responsible for the deaths of millions

of people potentially. And I don't think that the United States Navy waits around until somebody comes 18 years old and then decides, hey, I have. might want to do that for them to start the programming. I would suggest that there are many factors on this planet, both government, industrial, corporate, all kinds of folks with deep pockets that know the product that they're looking for. And we believe the process starts much later in life than it actually does. So that's how I think I got to the South Pole station was with a lot of applied intentions from others. That is about as deep a thought. Eric is I've had on here in a long time when you put it that way my brain goes one of two ways

one is either they wanted to have Eric there so that he could perform said duty and be a part of team whatever or there is another team that is really really good guys that were like we need to program Eric because when it gets to this point he can blow the whistle so that people know because if you're investing that much money, your brain is thinking perfectly because these are the resources that both of the factions you mentioned have. These are the weapons of the war that they wage. And I'm simply trying to let the world know that warfare has drastically changed from

what they believed it to be. So this would just be yet another tactic. You are correct. But now the question still remains by who's, hand. Do you mind me asking your age? I'm just kind of curious, you know, where you're sitting. I'm 48 years old. 48 years old. So you're 11 years older than me. So you're born, what, would that put you, 75? Yes, sir. And you mentioned that along your road you worked for the Navy for a short stint, correct?

Correct. And that you were trained in nuclear pushing the button. That's what I was training for, correct. So, once again, I don't know. I don't know. know how much I can prior pull or everything else, but I'm just... You can ask anything that you want, and I'll do my best to answer. Why not stay with... Because what I heard in your testimony is you're a firefighter and a plumber. Am I wrong in that? That's correct.

Okay. More heavy-handed on the plumbing side than the firefighting side, but I do it. I have to do when it has to get done. What steered you away from the Navy? Because you mentioned being a part of it, what took you out of the Navy? Oh, that's a... It was a debacle. The submarine service as it was presented to me and then what the capabilities were that I've started to appreciate me, I didn't have blinders on.

I did start asking questions about things back then. I wasn't liking the answers that I was being given. And for all practical purposes, I did make a decision to start distancing myself, myself from the United States Navy. And I did get out under the pretense of fraudulent enlistment. I blew my NSA investigation blatantly. I saw an opportunity. So, yeah, I divulged that I had fraudulently enlisted by previously utilizing drugs that I had withheld from them, which basically everyone does.

And I was directed to do by the recruiter when I first went in and told them exactly what I was up to in life. He says, oh, I don't know, rip this up. You can't write that on here. You have to write that you never did any of that stuff. I said, okay, I'll write whatever you tell me I got to write. What do you I'm oh man this is

this is a world I don't understand what do you mean drugs what are you talking about smoking weed and stuff like that when you go to the recruiter oh I got you ever have you ever done drugs and I was like yeah absolutely you know 18 years old

stoned right now the guy you know the guy was like I mean he asked they say you have to answer everything honestly so I did and then he told me he ripped up my forms and said go to the recruiter down the block pretend you never came here

I said, okay. So then in the process of not liking how the Navy was working with me, I basically blew my NSA investigation by admitting to stuff I hadn't admitted to before. And, you know, everything. Yeah, exactly. They show you the door. You said another word when you started talking about your childhood that I find fascinating, because it might be the first time I've ever heard it on here.

You said you had a peculiar, you were ripe with peculiar. And I can't remember if you said people or instances. What did you mean by that? I think I might have said agencies, actually. Agencies. That's exactly what you said, yes. I was impacted by what is now commonly referred to as the Stargate program. They utilize the Monroe Institute remote viewing protocols to basically manufacture remote viewers out of average citizens.

Everybody innately has the ability to remote view, just like you have the ability to play the guitar. It just all depends on how much desire you put into the activity, but nothing's stopping you from becoming proficient at the guitar other than you and how much you practice. So anyone can play at the guitar, anybody can remote view. And back when the CIA and some other factions were learning this to be true, they started investing in research and development for the studies of consciousness. The studies from my experience and other people that I've been communicating with

were not limited by a low age. So they started dealing with children and working them in these programs, and I was part of one of them. Oh, boy, this is going to be, I tell you what, folks, buckle up here. Remote viewing. Explain that to me. It's the ability to have knowledge and have no explanation for the method in which you received it. It's a very vague term for like Claire cognizance, I guess you would say, knowing.

There is a way to just know stuff and not know how you knew it. Some people call it intuition. Some call it being a psychic. Some call it remote viewing. I mean, but it's an observable activity that we can all do, but we ignore it. We don't discuss these things. Everybody wants to prove this and prove that and send me a link or it's not real, but yet we all know what I just said is right.

we all have the ability to know stuff without knowing how we do it. It happens. And whether I go, I agree or disagree, that isn't the thing. I guess where my brain goes is the government thinks that then is what you're saying. And so at the very least we have to appreciate that whether or not we believe in something or not, if somebody in the government with enough funding decides to even check to see if something is real, there's going to be fortune spent on it. Well, we're not that far removed.

You know, I'm reading Annie Jacobson's book, Operation Paperclip. Yep. And, I mean, that's one lifetime ago of the things that scientists were doing. And, I mean, I don't need to be, you know, it's not controversial to say that a whole bunch of those folks came over to the United States of America and other places as well. Absolutely. And we're involved in the programs that were negatively impacting me as a child. I mean, a lot of those folks came right over to Long Island. The lunar module was created by Grumman, a German-named company in the military industrial

complex of Long Island that was infiltrated by all the post-World War II Nazis that came under false pretenses and became NASA. Did you see in Canada what Canadian Parliament just did? I did not. I keep seeing headlines for stuff, but I don't normally click on things. I'm far removed from the mainstream. Fair enough. They honored a World War II veteran who fought against Russia, and then it came out that he was a Nazi. And so he was a Nazi in Canadian Parliament with everybody giving a round applause.

They had Ukrainian Prime Minister, a leader. What the heck is his name? Why am I forgetting it right now? Castro. I'm sorry, Trudeau. Zalinski. Trudeau's Canadian one. Sorry, Zelensky was there, the honored a guy who fought in World War II. It turned out it was an actual Nazi. I don't know why I have to say actual folks, but the term Nazi has been thrown around lots.

Anyways, it's just top of mind right now, I guess, is where we sit in this conversation. As far as when you go back to your childhood, you mentioned programs. What program were you part of where you think this was happening to you? they called it tag or gate program, which still exists today and even operates under a multitude of other names, but it's the same activity. I mean, they're processing children. They're looking for something. They're working with them, and they're doing these things, but no one's paying attention. What do you mean tag?

Tempted and gifted program, gifted and talented program, tag or gate is the acronym. Sorry. No, no, my brain immediately goes to the game of tag. I'm like, what do you mean? Tag is an acronym for talented and gifted, or sometimes they call it the gate program, which is gifted and talented, just reverse of each other.

But there's a whole multitude of other names that the same exact program goes by. And it's under the pretense of, you know, your child is special for whatever reason they need to tell the parents to make them comfortable. And then they bring them out of class and they start working with them in ways that,

you know, it all depends on the skill set of the child. But again, every kid's going through a process. They're just trying to find the weaknesses and the strengths of every kid to direct them in what they believe is the right path for the future. And some kids are better at remote viewing than others.

And they'll find them. Hmm. So when you get to the South Pole, I'm going to jump now. Go right ahead. Go right ahead. Well, I mean, you're giving me some insight into how your lead up to where you're at, right? You've got some background in the Navy. but you're kind of a troublemaker like the rest of us at an earlier age

because you see some things you don't like, you find a way to get out of the Navy. How do you find Raytheon? Like I actually Google, I've heard of Raytheon a ton of almost kind of like, it's almost like I hope this makes sense, folks, but it's almost like I've heard of them, but I've never looked into it. You know, so it's like I kind of think I know what they are, but I actually don't know.

What a crazy thing for a giant company to not know exactly how to place them. that's brilliant or dangerous all the same. So I finally looked up, yeah, I finally looked it up and like, oh, how does one even go about getting hired by Raytheon? I guess the better question is how does Raytheon go about having the contract for South Pole? I mean, I'm a tradesman, and I was simply applying to go provide my skill set at a remote facility. So it makes sense for me being there, right? They need, you know, wherever there's people, they need plumbers. But the real question is, why does the South Pole station need companies like Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or any other fill in the blank military industrial contractor?

I mean, Raytheon basically builds weapons of war missile systems and the capacity to kill people on the cheap. You know, why do they even get the contract to maintain facilities like South Pole Station? I just happened to apply to a job that was being run by them. So I didn't really have a choice in the matter. They needed a plumber at the South Pole Station. I applied to the job. Raytheon Polar Services was the third-party contractor through the NSF that was hiring. Once again, where were you before this?

Before you moved to the South Pole, where are you located? I grew up on Long Island at the time. So why not just get a plumbing? Doesn't Long Island need a plumber? I'm sure Eric could have just been like that. At the time, the time the Obama administration had thoroughly destroyed the entire economy where I was at. So there was only two people on the planet hiring at the time. And that was one of them.

So you're sitting there like, well, I guess I'm going to, you know, I'm so cool. I mean, I was not looking for this gig. I was literally trying to avoid it. When I saw that the one job was actually at the South Pole station and not at Centennial, Colorado like it had advertised. I went right to the other job and was looking into the other job. But the South Pole station called me back before anyone else did was the only people on the planet that would cut me a check. So I went there.

Man, that's, you know, and the list of things that gets, you know, life is an interesting adventure. Absolutely. And when you're looking at jobs because there's nothing there, and you're like, all right, Colorado, South Pole. You know, I just, I got to be honest, folks. Like, I've applied to a ton of jobs. I've applied to a ton of jobs, Eric.

Nothing has ever stood out. And saying that, while I was working for Baker Hughes once upon a time, I did look at jobs in Texas and overseas and different places. So it's not like that crazy of an idea. I just don't, you know, it's the South freaking pole. Like, I just go, how do you fall your way into that job? Like I said, I feel like it was by the direction of others. Is it a coincidence that at the time I was strapped and it was, you know, I go to the computer and only two places show up?

Is that not able to be manipulated by folks? Is my IP address unable to be compromised? Can they not control what traffic goes to everybody's terminal every day, 24 hours a day? I mean, there's already algorithms doing that. You think if somebody doesn't want to pay for access to your stream and what you see that it's, It's able to be prevented. I mean, people are already paying to control who sees what and what advertisers gets to everywhere. I mean, that's just the commercial ability to do it.

You think that military industrial contractors and politicians and political groups that invented these systems don't misuse them, as if the phone is invented for our convenience and it's not a weaponized platform against us. Technology was created and then they find a way to corrupt it, right? Because they just see the possible, oh, we can use this to monitor this and wire tap phone calls and listen to all the different things. And I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but the way I was, when I hear you talk about it, it's almost like you're like, the people that are going to corrupt it are like, let's give them the telephone because then it's easier to control.

And then let's give them the internet, let's say, because we'll be able to mine more things. And we look at it as like a revolutionary technology when in fact, fact, people are allowing it. Is that what you're saying? Forget allowing it. It's the actual primary reason is the nefarious reason that the production occurs to begin with. The false pretense is the wonderful things that we have it for is the primary reason. It's way more nefarious than what you just suggested is what I'm suggesting. How so? That the intention was to be able to observe your heart rate and your breath rate and know everything that's presented to you and how you will react so that you can be understood, studied, and worked against

on a very personalized level. And they can then do this in mass to everybody, which is in and of itself a brainwashing and control mechanism to have complete control of all of the information that goes before somebody's eyes and be able to assess their reaction to it. To do that without them knowing it and then control the information that goes in front of them again. So you literally can train this person to do whatever you want them to do in time through exposure. This is really simple stuff. And I'm just saying this was the reason that they created it way back when was to get to this point in baby steps without people paying attention to the news being put around their neck.

and it worked out really well. Your phone is now currently reading your heart rate and your breath rate. That's not for your benefit. Do you have a phone then, Eric? I'm curious. Absolutely. It doesn't have those features. Sure.

Absolutely. I'm a hypocrite in that capacity is that, yes, I do possess and I do use technology. But like every other drug out there, I would suggest that there's a definitive line between use and abuse. and I would suggest that the vests, majority of people are abusers that are wholly addicted to their technology. And the way that I can prove that is just ask everyone to walk away. And whoever can do it the longest wins. Whoever can't do it at all or the shortest is a wholly raging addict. You know, it's funny because everyone, as you're saying that, everyone has forgot their phone.

before and gotten a block away from the house and it's almost like you're missing a part of you right it's why there's people like that yeah i would i would argue with you at of a hundred people 99 are like that there's there's probably only of one percent or less that's like what percentage keeps driving and doesn't go back and doesn't go back very very very small right one block away just says i mean i don't need my phone i'll be fine without it i i actually do Well, so let's play this thought of process, though. Because I have now, on my phone, do not disturb, happens at 5 p.m. until 8 a.m. So nothing gets through except for family phone calls, essentially, right?

So for the listener, they can text me. I have it hooked up to the podcast, so not hooked up specifically, but they can text me. So when they're listening to Eric, I'll be getting texts starting essentially at three in the morning. Boom, boom, boom, and it just goes on all day long. but I don't you know unless I open my phone I don't see anything because I don't want to be I'd watch the social I think social dilemma about social media and how the you know like it different social media is want you to interact with it so if they haven't had you on they'll send you alert oh this is up and then you go and click into it and now you're interacting again right it's it's the big advertisers pay big money to have your set of eyes so I went oh yeah how can I get away from this so now I have do not disturb for the majority of the day because I understand how hard it is to like see the little red thing like you've missed one message. Ooh, I better go check it.

But then all of a sudden half an hour goes by and you've got been on your phone. You're like, where did the time go? Like so when you talk about people driving a block away, I'll do you one better. When I'm walking into the grocery store and I've forgot my phone, I'm like what? 15 seconds back and I'm like, do I need it? and I have to sit there and have an argument with myself about, I don't, like, why would I need my phone? No, Sean, just go.

Like, it's not a big deal. What if somebody calls? Like, what if somebody calls? What did I do 12 years ago when I had no phone? I just went about my life and didn't worry about such things. Mm-hmm. And this is the conditioning of where we are today. And to act like this was incidental and without a massive intention.

applied would just be naive. These people knew what they were creating and rolling out before the people they rolled it out to did. That in and of itself, historically, is a power play, you know, those who have the knowledge seem to profit here, a lot off of those that don't. And then always just step ahead. And now that, you know, we find out that corporations like McDonald's are looking to figure out ways to pump commercials into your head while you're sleeping. I mean, this is the direction that technology is going that they're getting to in baby steps. But if I told you in the 1980s that they were going to start beaming commercials into your head at night, you would be flipping out that this is an intrusion.

But now people are almost, you know, lining up to buy neuralink to make sure it's a goddamn guarantee. Would people go for that? Would they go for it? they're putting them on layaway, they're lining up for it. They're begging for it. For Neurlink. Yeah.

I mean, you're telling me that if they started giving Neurlink out for free, people wouldn't start sucking them up like fucking flu vaccines? I must come from a different planet. I want nothing to do with that. I don't either, but you can't tell me that looking around you that you don't see others that would be all over it. That's a scary thought, man.

Right? If they started giving out Neurilink for free, how many people you think would just be like, yeah, absolutely. Throw that thing right in my head. Probably more than I care to admit, but I like to think that there would be a lot of people that are like not a chance. Like there's no way, like, just think of it. Look at how many years they were giving out free cell phones as long as you side up to pay for the service. What's the difference? Ooh, that's an interesting thought. What's the difference?

Take it right now. If they said I'll give you an eye What's the iPhone on folks? Is it 13? 13 maybe? I don't know. The whole industry has been doing this for decades. This is literally they've already done this With the handheld version of the neuralink That we all know it's bad for them to directly install it in your head

But what's the difference if it's in your fucking hand all day? People assume that it being in my hand I can leave it somewhere or it's not a part of me And yet it's not a part of me. And yet it's stays on our body. We've already discussed that no one will ever distance themselves from it. So they already have the neuralink.

It's just the handheld version. Fair. Okay. Let's get to the South Pole then. Enough dancing. You go to the South Pole. I've heard a lot of different stories. Some I'm like, this sounds like complete poppycock.

Like there's no way. And of course, then, you know, like there's all these testimonies. And you start listening to me like, this has got to be complete and utter bullshit, Eric. Like, I just, there's no way. I think the vast majority of conversations on the topic of Antarctica are manufactured bullshit to cover up what's really going on. Okay. Well, walk us. There's like, there's a whole plethora of folks that discuss the topic of Antarctica that have never been there.

So why does the audience give them any credence to begin with? Who are these people? If they have no evidence, if they have no direct first-hand experience, what's the value of them in the conversation, which is a lot of the reason why I came to speak on the topic because I got sick and tired of watching all these testimonies of the obvious charlatans, con, men, and bullshit artists. Well, let's talk about it. Let's talk about, walk me through it.

Walk us through the story. Well, more or less, basically, my direct first-hand experience and documentation that I've provided to the general public for a few years to the Senate Intelligence Committee to Arrow suggests that there's more than just science going on at the South Pole Station and in the United States Antarctic program, that there's also nefarious systems known as directed energy weapons that are in play and being utilized, that this is some really serious stuff that people need to start wrapping their heads around

because it is going on. There's earthquake generating devices, there's voice to skull technology, there's UFO craft that need to be tracked, shot down. There's craft on our planet that is at the same level of stuff that's off planet that also needs to be tracked and shot down. This is just, it's just war on a different level that the general population is not privy to because modern war is different than war of old. It's much less noble because we used to dress up our combatants in uniforms and send them to a third party location and have them duke it out while we've, proceeded to have a battle for depletion of resources of one nation versus another.

Now we've circumnavigated the uniforms. We've relocated the battlefield to the front streets of either nation, and we no longer waste time and efficiency in attacking each other's infrastructure and personnel through a remote location. We just do it directly now with weapons that can't be seen. We don't have bullet holes in our veterans anymore, and they're not walking back from some remote front line. The front line is everywhere.

were surrounded by the walking wounded, but the wounds are now associated to weapons that people don't know exist, so they can't even identify the wounded that they're surrounded by. Let's talk direct-directed energy weapons. This was something with the Maui fires that got brought up, and I was like, at this point, I'm like, unless I'm in Maui, I have no idea, because we just talk about social media,

we talk about everything going on. It's like, what is real? What are they trying to steer us towards? Let's just start with what is real then. Sure. Raytheon makes a system called the active denial system. It's a weapon of war. It's a directed energy weapon.

It's referenceable. A company called Genesis makes LRAD. Company used to be called LRAD. Now they call themselves Genesis. Also, a commercially available directed energy weapons system. everybody's seen, you know, photographs at the Air Force with the freaking laser beam mounted in the nose of the plane. This is not new stuff. This is not unreal stuff.

It's simply unspoken of stuff. Directed energy weapons are wholly real. The systems that I just mentioned are referenceable and hand carried by man or truck mountable on small vehicles. Now take the same platforms, scale them up, increase the scope and length and width of the dimensions of the facility, and we just have bigger, more substantial directed energy weapons platforms. So my- I suggest that all over the world. My brain, and I could be wrong on this, but this is where my brain goes.

It goes, a telescope can see, you know, like a little one can see, you know, how far away, right? The trees. and the more you amplify said telescope, now you can see the moon and further and further. What you're suggesting then is with direct energy weapons is they have small ones for me and you to carry around, but then everybody always wants bigger. And so what they've done is they've created something that could do what?

Generate an earthquake and deliver it anywhere on the planet. From the South Pole? Yes. So they aim it... So with aim it like a telescope? Don't even think of aim it like. Just think of it as deliver. Think of like Tesla that you can deliver it from point A to point B

and the terminology in between is the devil in the details. Just imagine it's by a process that you don't even know yet. So pick a location on the earth, press a button and boom. Take a location, press a button, and you can make an earthquake happen. Holy crap. Yep. Now consider that the massive earthquake that happened in Turkey most recently came after a threat from the current president, Joe Biden, stating that if they didn't acquiesce to their demands,

they'd hit him with an earthquake. Let me ask you then why. We're all watching this Russia-Ukraine thing. Now, I can sit here and go. I have no idea about all the details, but we can certainly see different pieces of information coming through. If they have said technology, which I'm not questioning you on, I'm just sitting there, why aren't they hammering Russia with 80 earthquakes and just be done with this?

Because that that's what you're watching is a dog and pony show. War is a racket. It's just it's politics on a different level. I mean, if you look at what's going on right now with the action in Ukraine, it's just a way for Zelensky and the Biden administration to fleece the United States of America. That's all that's really going on. There's tons of money coming out of our country, going into that country under the pretense of helping them. No, same here in Canada.

I mean, yeah, I mean, this is all shenanigans. I mean, if people are all going to believe that line of baloney, then they're kind of screwed already and are probably waiting to get a neural link. So you don't think we're close to nuclear war then? No, never. There's never going to be a nuclear war ever. It's just, again, it's a little act that they pull out on stage to try to scare everybody to make everybody do what they want to do.

There's absolutely never going to be a nuclear war. There may be a nuclear event that'll, have some BS story applied to it to try to scare the crap out of people, but that's just like any other manufactured event, like 9-11 or, you know, JFK. I mean, this is history. There's people that can make these things happen, and there's people that suffer from the activities of those people. But let's not pretend that all the world isn't the stage. Yeah, I always think the event that the one that always, you know, I go back to is the Lusitania in World War I. you know, with the Americans and the Germans sink in and in it goes.

And, you know, they've since been down to it and seen all the shells and everything else. And that brought the Americans into World War I. So, I mean, like. Happened again in the Gulf of Tonkin. Pretty much, you know, similar circumstances. Fake, fake attacks and people that lie about it. And next thing you know, we're in war. So you think there's, you know, like here we are sitting having this conversation.

Sometimes I got a lot of green, you know, I'm just, I got a lot of hope that maybe the world of podcasts or these conversations, the fact that you're getting your voice heard more, that, you know, something like the trucker convoying can to happen when lockdowns seemed like they were going to happen for the rest of time in this strange, bizarre world. Do you see hope then, Eric, from the meetings you've been happening? Or you're like, no, this problem is giant. know where it goes. The problem is massive. I am in many ways always hopeful in it so far as I keep trying. I don't give up, but I don't want to pretend that I see a light at the end of the tunnel or a good outcome yet.

I just feel obliged to keep pushing forwards because I would say that currently the momentum suggested in the not too distant future, we're all going to be in a bad way. because nobody seems to be getting off of their ass to do anything about the problems that keep growing exponentially. I mean, I can hope for things to change fast. Absolutely. I would just simply say I lead by example. I'm trying to do the most that I can as often as possible. But in the meantime, I find a whole lot of people that like to talk about what they think other people should do about making things better. and I feel like there's just a lot of people

that are way engaged in the talking side than the doing side contemporarily. Sure, yeah. Boy, do they have a lot of opinions about what other people should be doing. When you talk about this, like, direct energy weapon, geez, I don't know why that's so hard to spit out. Anyways, is it the U.S. that has it, and that's it?

Or is this like every country? No. countries are a farce as well, lest we think that somehow these geographical boundaries prevent us from, you know, doing harm internally. I mean, the United States has a history of exercising weapons and tests against their own people. Other nations do this.

This has more to do with higher than that. I mean, nation states are puppets to other factions. I mean, there's a high probability that Raytheon runs the United States of America at this point for all we know. It appears that the Biden family is operating under, you know, some peculiar privileged position because this isn't how our country is supposed to be run in the slightest, but it's happening. So it would seem that nation states have been commandeered by a higher force.

And we should probably have more conversations about that instead of trying to bicker about whether the next Democrat or Republican is going to save us. Because if anything that history has shown us in the past many decades is that all of our responsibilities seem to fall on the shoulders of either a Democrat or a Republican. So what higher? Everything's still pretty screwed up. So how about we just blame them all together collectively and we the people figure out a better option than, you know, that tennis match? What do you think the higher power is then? Loaded and with ill intent.

Wealth beyond what people can comprehend. evil more than people want to consider exists. But those people are very organized. Bad people are very organized. Good people suffer because of that, because we don't get together fast enough to make corrections to find out that the evil people have been organized for quite some time and effective.

That's a scary thought, you know, when you put it... It's a fact. When you put it in those terms? Absolutely. Yep, it's, you know, nobody can prove that wrong. year, all you're ever going to find is that when you do investigations and you find out that people have been up to no good, you're going to find out they've been up to no good for way longer than you initially thought in a very organized networked way. I mean, that's what history

shows us in the nutshell, pretty much every time they investigate anything. Good people were sitting around willy-nilly, unbeknownst to the fact that bad people were taking advantage of them for quite some time until such times that investigation started and we backed up and rooted it out. Sean Ryan asked you this, and I'm going to ask it to. I'm like, so you worked at the South Pole and you're whistleblowing about said South Pole. How the heck are you still alive? Because I feel like... Why wouldn't I be?

I think that statement is part of the programming to keep people quiet. Oh. It's to put a fear. That's part of the program. I'm alive because that statement you just said is false. I'm proof that what you just said is erroneous and I stand here leading by example suggesting that everybody else speak their truth

because what Sean just said is bullshit. No disrespect to you Sean. No, no disrespect taken. Actually, you know, in the middle of COVID, you know, as you say that, in the middle of COVID, when I was having, you know, different doctors, lawyers, everything, I used to get a message probably once a week

to twice a week. just check in to see that I was still alive. And then I hadn't been putting a bag and carried off somewhere. And, you know, it's not that I stopped interacting with them. I just kind of chuckled and maybe somewhere deep in the back recesses of my mind. I thought, hopefully that isn't a thing. But, you know, once again, just as you said, I'm still sitting here. And nobody's ever come and knocked on my door.

And certainly there's been things happen on a larger scale where people have tried pushing that message that if you speak out, the bad guys will come and knock on your door. And certainly in COVID... Yeah, it's almost like a knee-jerk reaction, which to me, when I hear that, it sounds like the program coming at me. You know, it's like just as much as you say conspiracy and the next word out of people's mind is theorist. You know, it's almost like, oh, whistleblower speaking truth,

knee-jerk response, it can't be the truth if he's still alive. That's interesting, isn't it? Absolutely. I see it regularly. Because to me, it's very simple. that, but, you know, I'm, if someone says that to me, I mean, they have no leg to stand on. I just go, you're wrong, because I'm alive. Almost at a loss, folks, you know?

This has been interesting. I'm like, where to go, you know? Like, yeah, everybody should speak their truth. Everybody has a piece to this puzzle, but also everybody's been programmed to shut their mouths for fear of retribution. Reprisal. Yeah. Reprisal and retribution. Most people nowadays are job scared.

You threaten their income. can't make their mortgage payment they're looking at being homeless that's pretty much where everybody's brain goes right now you want to keep people in line you threaten their employment which is the easiest thing to do in this type of an economy i mean they can they can just shut the whole world up by causing a recession making everybody strapped and then everybody just does whatever they're told i mean unless we think it's not possible for someone to instigate a recession. I mean, no one would ever do that.

I mean, we're literally watching it play out. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and this, you know, it takes people's interest and redirects it, and it looks like an accident, but it's the intentions of other people that make it so. Voice to skull. Explain this to me. Other than with, other than with an actual chip in your head. Yep. It's actually right around the corner from being even more publicly available to the civilian population.

They're going to start coming out with what they call bone conducting technology so that your headphones is not going to really put the air through the atmosphere to then get to your ear drum to function like you're familiar with. Instead, it'll go from the technology directly to the bones in your ear canal. But because they have it in close proximity, people won't question it. They'll just think of it as the next new tech. But what they won't realize is that that technology has already been around for decades and can already operate from a much greater distance, which would effectively be putting voices in your head. Because they can bone conduct already at great distance,

which means there's no difference than the headphone technology. They want to put sound in your head from right in. next to your head or for miles away from your head, regardless, they still have the technology to do that, and it's called voice to skull. They can put a voice in your skull. How do you protect against such a thing? It's not so much as a protection as it is battling. There's no shield for it, but there is an ancient weapons system taught in the mystery schools of old. and it was called know thyself

because this technique existed for a very long time for folks that understand reality electromagnetic signals frequencies all of that stuff way back when somebody could have been trained and adept in walking into a room and throwing their voice well is everybody hearing something that's real or unreal can you throw it could I throw my voice from my mouth into your head

there's a technique for it but now contemporarily we have techniques that have been bastardized into technologies that are not being discussed that still have the same impact of being able to put a voice in your head. Today, they would call it bone conducting technology. But again, this technique and technology can happen in close proximity or at great distance. The question is, who has access to said things? And when this technique or technology is being applied to you and in an intrusive thought is now mixed up in the thoughts in your head, it is imperative on you to know thyself, to have the discernment, enough experience in who you are,

that the intruder who's not as experienced in you should only be able to intrude with something that doesn't really fit that well, as long as you're paying attention, as long as you know thyself. You will observe and deal with an intrusive thought because it's actually very easy because it's surrounded by a whole bunch of you. And on the home field turf, you have the advantage. But people just aren't paying attention. And they're suffering from the intrusive thought that takes hold that they don't route out. And when you see people suffering from this all day long, they'll tell you about negative thoughts, they'll discuss this with you. Everybody's going through it right now in a way that we've never seen historically.

I feel this way. I feel terrible. They have all this stuff going on in their head. Okay, well, get rid of the stuff that's not yours. And once again, they, I guess I go, you talk about this and people are going to think you're looney tunes. Other people are going to be like, this guy's brilliant, right? I mean, there's different levels of where people are at. There's patented technology already referenceable that supports everything that I just said.

There's nothing great. That's what people need to wrap their heads around. I'm speaking the truth. The only thing that's crazy is they've never heard this before. All I was getting at, Eric, was they can't come out and be like, they want to remain in the shadows. Because as they're in the shadows, they just get to kind of like manipulate the situation. I mean, watch the new, like the most visual thing I can talk to that makes, what you're talking about make sense in my head is watching the news in Canada.

It is the most crazy thing. You're like, you watch something, you look out their door and you're like, this is crazy. Like what they're doing is crazy. And I'm like watching it firsthand. You can literally see it. It's just, it's so visible. And that is one way of manipulating a population, right?

Is media has this ability to just like send a message. This is, this is television. This is what we're telling you, and we're all going to do it in unison, and this is what you should know, and on and on it goes. And what you're talking about, although I'm like, oh, man, I've never really thought about it before, it's like, well, is it that far out of the question? Well, no. I mean, like, look at what we just went through.

Look at what they were trying to do here in Canada, folks. Like, it got to absurd levels. What do you think the end goal is then? I think currently they're looking at a calling. I think when all the animals on the farm that, you know, one party feels is their product is getting out of control and hard to manage, I think historically we've seen farmers do things called culling the herd. So I think we need to be concerned with something like that.

I think we just witnessed an attempted culling by a faction with the whole COVID debacle. So they're looking at... I don't think we're not going to see the impacts of that for quite some time because we've been wholly lied to exactly what occurred. We're still being lied to about what happened, let alone what the outcome is. It's going to take decades before we even actually truly are aware of the negative implications of the debacle we just went through. For all we know, we might be 10 years out from the whole planet being sterile.

We don't know yet. Bill Gates may have already accomplished his goal. We don't know. Just like the cell phones are only just now starting. to look like the weapons that they were truly initially intended to be, we're not going to know the ramifications of what just occurred for at least two decades. And by that time, most people have forgotten, essentially, unless... It'll be way, yeah, and it'll be certainly way too late.

You think that the evil people that plotted this didn't already think of that? you know, they already have slow release medications. You think they weren't into slow release illness? You think they give a damn? They're already working on much longer timetables than we are. The average mortgage payers live in month to month. Yep. The average nefarious robber baron profiteer of humanity is not thinking month to month.

Their plans go a lot for, they're worried about, you know, what, you know, facility their grandkids are going to be. running and how they get from point A to point B in that capacity. So they want to make sure that, you know, the general population is always interested in their family's product line, and they'll invest in that. Well, that's probably one of the hardest things sitting even in this seat. And I've talked a lot about this when I first read Solgenitin, you know, before I sat down and read that, I thought there's no way anybody thinks in the thought process of decades.

There's just no way. And then, you know, solgianism in the first like, I don't know, 20 pages. It's like right at the start, talks about the big game of Solitaire, like immediately. I'm like, crap. Okay. Well, I guess I have to rewire the way my brain thinks because the truth of the matter is, you know, people think in the line of decades or maybe longer. You just mentioned basically a lifetime. They're thinking in generations, not even decades. And that's hard sitting here talking to you to get my. brain around. That's a hard thing to wrap it. Totally understood. It's just these are completely different perspectives from people that reside on the same planet. I appreciate that you don't see their perspective, but we have to appreciate that their perspective exists. I'm beginning to understand their perspective exists. It's just this, it's this, it's this internal dialogue, if you would, of it can't be that bad. And then having different people such as yourself go, it's that bad. You need to wake up. You need to wake up real fast. People need to wake up. It can't be that bad. I'm telling you, it's that bad. Stop it. We're that

bad. And you're like, what if no one listened to Paul Revere here in the United States, you know? What if when Paul Revere went riding through the streets saying the British are coming, the British are coming, what if everyone was like, eh, it's not that big of a deal. How many Brits are really coming? But yeah, what I bring is not great news, but I'm responsible to let people know. If you and I are in the bar and we're grabbing a beer and all of a sudden I see you're about to get sucker punched, I feel obliged to say something to you. It's not good news, but I would let you know. So what are you doing to try and be a step ahead? Other than being a whistleblower, going around and saying like, this is out there.

You need to know. Government, you need to know. We need to get this in line because if we don't, this is where it goes. What are you doing personally to try and stay a step ahead other than whistleblowing and trying to alert as many people as possible? Other than, well, I guess I would say that I'm very involved with the state of Alaska militia. I do my best to help the community around me and be prepared in case of an emergency by any definition. And to me, that's just being a good neighbor. I recommend everybody join your local militia.

Start to become very powerful in your community and a tight-knit neighborhood. I mean, that's what really this is all about is, you know, neighbors helping neighbors. And when an emergency happens, it's going to be your local community that you're going to need to network with, not the federal government from the other side of the country in some FEMA situation. I mean, even in a FEMA situation, And famous step one is to defer to whoever's on the ground locally. It's wild. I'm thinking of Tom Luongo.

He literally said, you know, I almost asked the identical question on him. He said, community. And community keeps coming up over and over again. Like you think it's this rocket, you know, like you've got to do these crazy things. And I'm sure there are a couple out there that would be good to start doing. But essentially, it's like be a good neighbor. It's kind of like treat other people well as you would like to be treated. It's kind of found in this thing called the Bible folks.

And if you start doing that in your community, when bad things come, whichever they are, you'll be better prepared than most. Yeah, and I would say that the lack of community was required before this COVID debacle could have ever been laid at the feet of the general population. I would suggest that if we were just as far back as recently as the early 1980s, that a certain sense of community and immediate dialogue with people's local neighbors that the COVID debacle would not have flown then because people were too connected and the truth would have spread too fast and they wouldn't have had such a stranglehold

on the minds of the masses because they weren't so enthralled with the media at the time. So things like that show, you know, the challenge of the elite in trying to, to manipulate the population is that there were certain obstacles that they had to negate from their end first. The fact that nobody goes home and knows the name of everybody that lives on their block like it used to be was also manufactured into society to remove that closeness, to destroy the neighborhood community by constantly pumping the media with divisive conversations. Once again, it's something that you can't quite put your finger on, right?

So it's like... But you put you as omnipresent. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think of Christmas lights. I just think of the simple act of putting up Christmas lights. This will be the first year that I do it as a married man with kids. And I know that may shock people. And I don't know why I haven't done it.

But Christmas lights, I would argue, elicits like this happy feeling. And so if you go into a neighborhood that all has Christmas lights, You're like, oh, this is beautiful. Kids are all in awe. It's like, and I can pretty much safely say as a kid, all the hoses had Christmas lights. Now, once again, I'm being a little bit general. Was it all? Of course not.

But I would say majority had Christmas lights. You didn't go into a community and not see Christmas lights. Now I can drive through full blocks, but there's no Christmas lights. And I'm like, that's an interesting thing. Now it gives winter an even more dark and gloomy presents, which it is. Let's not kid ourselves up here. in Canada. Like, I mean, we go through a good chunk of the year where it's dark and gloomy. And Christmas lights elicit emotion and good emotion out of most people.

Yep. Yep. And so. And look how much it's been removed from society. Yeah. I mean, did people all of a sudden decide they don't enjoy those feelings anymore associated with it? Or was there some other seed planted? Well, I'm trying to think, what would be the seed that's planted there, Eric, or I mean, I'm putting you on the spot, but I'm, I'm, I, I actually don't know why. I can't figure it off if it's too much work that costs too much money. I would suggest that when things like this happen, it's from the application of a full court press.

All of the variables will get tweaked in some capacity. Because if they don't want people doing these things in community that are a sense of community, they certainly know how to target them and remove them. And then the question would be, well, why would they leave any dial that they have to their discretion, unmanipulated and the answers they wouldn't. They would do a full court press and everything they could to make that seem less desirable to you would be taken advantage of. I have a question that comes out of left field. Do you believe in God? Go for it. I believe in that there's something going on. I also do not like any of the definitions or boundaries that I've ever seen anybody

apply to the topic. I believe there's obviously something going on that's greater than that. than us, but I think that most of those conversations to try to discuss this topic have already also been commandeered and used as control mechanisms to get masses of amounts of people to do what they want them to do. So you even think something is simple, not as simple, I shouldn't say that, but something like the Bible has been commandeered by the... Oh, absolutely. Totally.

It is simply, just like we witnessed today that the mass media has... has been compromised by those that have the money and the ability to compromise the mass media, right? Every other book that was mass media of old, especially the Bible, it's the longest running mass media out there. There were times when it was illegal to possess a Bible unless it was a registered legally issued Bible.

I mean, it's the definition of controlled media. There's probably no book that's ever been, there's probably no information stream that's ever been more wholly controlled by the hands of controlling men, then the Bible. But people don't know that because they're being taught stuff about the Bible from people that are lying about the Bible. And then they're all told the Bible's true.

It's rather hilarious. I mean, if the Bible is so true and so divinely inspired, then how come everybody's arguing about it still? How come they're all not on the same page of divine inspiration? Well, then I would argue that no different than how does Eric get to the South Pole. There's two sides. And the two sides are at war and have been at war since the very beginning. Fair now.

One of the things that I enjoy about the Bible is it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. And things that make sense, well, we can't have that. We got to make sure that it's controlled and we're going to create different factions and on and on it goes so that by the time it gets to where we're sitting, Eric, we go, why can't everybody get along and just like, you know, and then I just go, but listen to the first hour of the entire conversation we just had. Yeah, there's a lot of outside forces applying influence and it seems to be going on since time of memorial. But contemporarily, the average mortgage payer doesn't realize the amount of bread and circuses that have been invested in to circumnavigate their life. You mentioned faster than light vehicles, faster than light communications.

Could you just maybe talk a little bit about it? Did you... Two technologies that just like electricity always existed in nature, and it wasn't until Nikola Tesla, you know, taught us how to copycat effects of nature to utilize the phenomena known as electricity, it turns out that the speed of light traveling, you know, faster than the speed of light is something. That's also a doable phenomenon. It's just a matter of having the technology to take advantage of things that are available in the reality of nature. The standard model of physics is only a standard for the time and place that we discuss it.

The standard model changes, the more that we learn that reality is different than last we look. So faster than like communications, faster than like travel, it's just currently technologies that are unbeknownst to most of the general population because they don't get to play with the toys of wealthy power players that are working against us, I guess I would say. the technology's been around for quite some time they've been using it it's just not privy to the average mortgage payer and what it um when you talk about faster than the speed of light uh light vehicles where are they using such things everywhere they're the uh gary mckinan was a whistleblower about what he discovered in the nassah files um about an off world fleet and their respective captains.

So we have vessels that are traveling off of our planet and going into the cosmos, unbeknownst to the general population. Because there's profiteers involved with these technologies, and they get to go, make all the money off of the technology that they possess, but it's not in their best interest to remove the monopoly from their hands and then destroy. these powers to everyone else until such time they deem that it is profitable, which will be quite a few decades. This is how technology and science works.

You really think that when somebody invents something, that their first thought is, let me redistribute this to everyone else on the planet? I mean, that's not what history has shown us. First, the military industrial complex gets to use it under the false pretense of national security and waging war. And then apparently it's okay to make humanity wait for these sciences many decades until it's no longer a matter of national security and they have some other weapons

platform that now replaces that. So then it's okay for the people to have it. Does this seem right to anybody that we, the people, have nation states that take our money from us to create these technologies, which apparently can only be. first a weapon of war, and then eventually decades later disseminated? Is that a fair return on our investment?

That we then get charged for the same technologies that we invested to create. And only after they've wholly fleeced us, it made the technology a few decades old, which is effectively defunct. I mean, this is the way that the world currently works. We're getting hosed. So what do you make a guy like Elon Musk then? Neurolink. He's a puppet.

It's a puppet. He's being handed technology that's been around for at least two decades being used by the military. Just like Steve Jobs was also. Do you think these people invented all of this stuff? I don't know. I guess to that question, I think of the oil, fill. I think of where I'm from. I think the blue-collar people that have invented really cool things to pull oil out of the ground.

And I go, I've witnessed it. I've witnessed how they've, like, you know, some really smart men. I don't think we're handed Jack Squad. I think they devised some systems, worked on it, and pulled it, you know, and put it together. Like, that's where I'm from. Blue Collar town, you know, farmers are the same thing. Like, the farmer fix has led to some ingenious things that have gone on to the world. Now, what we're talking about with Elon is we're talking about Neurling, which I think is an insane idea.

But regardless, you know, we've been talking about the phones and everything else. We're talking about these unmanned spacecraft that are going up and landing again, you know, and on and on it goes. And I'm like, well, actually, I don't know if I'd put much thought into it, Eric. Yeah, I mean, I understand that. This is what people just need to consider. They need to brood more. They need to be less distracted by the, you know, the bells and whistles of life and pay more attention to, you know, what's going on around them. it's true

I sit here I feel like I'm doing a decent job maybe I'm not I don't know I feel like I'm doing a decent job of paying attention then you come on you rattle the cage bit and I'm like okay that's fair you know

I'm just like are we saying that Elon Musk there was he didn't at all have the genius to develop any of the things because when I not at all it's a dog and pony shop the technology existed

and what they do is the military industrial contractors and the politicians, they're in bed together. All this stuff already existed for eons, and it's just a matter of now how do they, how do they roll it out to the civilian population with first not admitting that it's been secret and used for decades. And then in a way that it's lucrative to the people that were in the know from the one side, and then they want to roll it out into the other side with total control.

That's all we're witnessing. And then these people are factions fighting against factions, and then there's corporate interest involved and then we have corporate espionage that goes above and beyond you know what's happening on in nation states because nation states are profiting so much so to say versus companies like rathion on lockheed martin that you know when they invest money in espionage they got a much greater return so to say directly so are there aliens then of course there are you think we're alone in the cosmos i don't but i'm curious your thoughts it would it would appear to me that whoever this great creator has created everything for a reason for us to engage with it. I don't think there would

be planets six billion light years away from us with nothing between here and there. And if there were, then I would suggest that there would be some method for us to get there regardless or it wouldn't be there. If there's anything that we've observed in Mother Nature is that she's very efficient. I've yet to see anything in Mother Nature that wasn't necessary. Mother nature seems to construct things to provide for a need. So if there's something way out there in the cosmos, there's a need for it. And if we're not touching it, someone else is. Because otherwise it wouldn't be there. Mother nature does not needlessly create things for no reason. I was having this idea with another person, okay? And I don't, you know, now I'm really

curious what you're going to say. Do we have the, do you think we have the ability to time then because of course yeah absolutely why do you say of course because it's it's observable in quantum entanglement things can happen I mean in in Einstein's book relativity in in the addendum section he talks about special relativity he talks about spooky action at a distance which is that same activity that he just couldn't explain but it's observable we can manipulate things at ridiculous distance instantaneously, which means in no time. So you're making something happen. You call a time travel at that point.

It's just another way of calling it time travel. We can do it. Time travel is legit because the limit of time was an erroneous observation from way back when. Now that we know that time is not an actual limit to things. We can do more than we thought. Right now you're having a thought. There's an electromagnetic impulse firing in your head,

and that is now moving out at infinite velocity in every direction. So that that means it's moving both forwards and backwards as well. And in the C of electromagnetic frequencies that is now emanating, radiating, whatever term you want to use that it's passing through, going to keep doing that. That actually means that somebody in the future can pick up the frequency of the thought that you just had now or somebody in the past as well.

It's just an electromagnetic frequency and if people can understand the seas of the ocean or any surface and they can figure out algorithms that simply state that this wave came from here and engaged this one and reacted this way, it's just math at that point. So people can start looking at all the frequencies in the world around this, find the right math algorithm, and start actually accessing the

thoughts that somebody had 400 years ago or 400 years in the future. It's just science. Everybody's been having the battle cry for the last couple of years of trust the science. Well, this is the science you also have to trust that exists as well. It's just frequencies. It's just transmitters and receivers. This is all doable. I mean this in the best possible way, so please don't take offense to this.

You sure you're just a plumber? Nope. Like I said, I've been, I've seen a lot of stuff. My expertise seems to be beyond that of a standard plumber. Like I said, I've been through programs and I've had people set me up to be something. I don't know whom yet, but I seem to be quite the sponge of everything I've ever observed. and I seem to integrate it pretty well. You keep getting me like where I'm like,

I don't even know what to say anymore, Eric. I'm like, this is what happened yesterday on my interview. I'm like, you know what I'm sitting here and I'm like, you know, I got thousands of thoughts, you know, but it's trying to nail one down to be like, this is where I should lead Eric because. Welcome to my head. I'm amazed right now that a plumber

from Long Island, makes it to the South Pole, witnesses something that he goes against his conscience, I would say. I hope I'm saying that right? That's correct. I was less aware at the time that it happened and more aware after it happened. But yes, I would say I was frustrated. There was a point in time where I learned that I was doing things that I wish I wasn't a part of. And then for that plumber from Long Island, who has a bit of Navy background,

but spoke out because he was uncomfortable there. Lanz in Raytheon's backyard where, if you listen to everybody, nobody can make it there. It's like, why would that ever happen? For my understanding, you had full access to the facility, which, I mean, I don't know, is that rare? Or is that? It was rare. Okay, so that's rare. So now you have the golden pass to go anywhere and look at things.

And for you to be the guy to then whistleblow and then be able to talk the way you do, which holds pretty much Sean Ryan. I was actually saying to a friend of mine before I stepped in here, I listened to it. And he's got, I think, folks, and you can correct me on this, but at one point he was number two behind Joe Rogan for popularity, for where he's at

with people listening to the show. And for you to handcuff him over and over and over again, like, that's an interesting thing. So when you talk about being like, I don't know, I was kind of programmed and I don't know what was working on me and I don't know what side and I don't know who it is.

It's like I'm sitting here and I go, yeah, I kind of get this. Like this is normally... These factions, the factions exist. That much I know. I mean, I'm still deciphering my experience, but I can tell you, there's factions moving around this planet

that people are not paying attention to. So factions, my brain goes to a couple different things. Good, evil. That's nice and easy. Yeah. Groups on both sides. Yeah, yeah, there's many good and there's many evil. There's many factions.

On the evil side, we all think of Bill Gates, close Schwab, heck, on and on that. That list goes. I'm sure we can fill that one. Who's team good in your mind? I think smart enough to be quieter about who they are. I mean, what we already see is that the bad people put in a certain amount of effort to hide their activities, right? Sure. But let's just look at characters and character flaws.

We're discussing good and evil right now, right? We're discussing the fact that technically both sides are operating in a sense of subterfuge. But one is more justified because one's doing it for good. The other one's less justified in their subterfuge because they are doing it for nefarious purposes. And the way that we can see the difference is because we still can see who the bad folks are. because they suffer the character flaws of ego as well. So they still want to be seen. Right.

Even when they're doing their evil things, whereas the characters that are doing the good don't suffer the character flaws of ego. So they don't really have to do it and get credit. They don't need to be seen. They just do the right thing. That's one of the definitions of doing the right thing, is doing the right thing when no one's looking.

Man, alive. I tell you what, this is going to replay in my brain. I'm going to have to go back and listen through this all over again, folks. And, you know, and the listener will know, this, you know, certainly I have great interviews, but thought-provoking ones that are challenging my brain to the absolute length that it can handle. This is right up there, you know. What haven't we hit on, Eric, that you think people need to know about? Usually this is the point where I say the whole know-thyself conversation, but we did already do that.

So I guess I would like to double down then on something else that I said earlier in the conversation. Parents, please address who is in charge of your children. Do not take anything that you've believed up until this point to be true. Wipe the slate clean, start all over again. There are programs for nefarious factions that are starting to manipulate the children at a very young age. We're learning now recently with the COVID debacle, some of the things that they were saying,

don't tell your parents this, all that kind of stuff. There's literally even facilities that were vaccinating the children without telling the parents. This is insanity to consider how much effort is being applied to take the role of the parent away from the parent

and provided by any other outside. side source. This needs to be fought with great zeal. I appreciate you coming on and doing this. And I meant it when, you know, when you apologize at the start of, you know, how, you know, it took, I don't know, it took months to finally to get you on. But I truly believe things happen at a time and place when they need to. And I don't know where your path leads, Eric, and I certainly have no idea where mine's going. but I look forward to the next time it does happen and I hope you know in the back of my brain I hope Eric comes to a little old Lloyd

Minster at some point here in Canada and we can sit and do this in person and and you know as much as I love doing it through the virtual you know application I would prefer to to sit across from somebody have a coffee or or what have you and hand shake and you know and see where it goes but either way thanks again for hopping on and doing this and hopefully we we will chat again sometime in the future. Absolutely, Sean. It was a pleasure, and thank you very much for the interest in the topic and sharing your

audience's time with me. I do appreciate it.