Shaun Newman Podcast - #509 - Ted Kuntz

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

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clinician and consultant he's an author and president of vaccine choice Canada I'm talking about ted coons so buckle up here we go welcome to the sean newman podcast today I'm joined by ted coons so first off sir it's great to see you again I'll I'll be it through a screen uh the first time around meeting you was it was uh was certainly an enjoyable experience uh getting uh you know share coffee and a couple meals with you and everything else. But either way, thanks for hopping on here. Well, I think we also shared a bedroom, if I recall correctly shot. For the listener when I went to Colonna, one of the people I met along the way was Ted.

And after one of the shows, us two along with Tamara and her group all shared a rental property. And a shout out to Gary for lining that all up and everything else. But yes, I had a roommate for a night. That was rather a fun experience. And I don't think either of us snored, so we were good. Now, Ted, I want you to, I guess, you know, one of the things that I realized when I was in Colonna, and actually in Salmon Arm as well, is people knowing out West certainly know exactly who you are. It's not like you're not known by your community.

You certainly are. But out here in my community, I'd never heard of you before. for. Or maybe I hadn't glancing, but I'd never really followed up on it. So maybe you could long or short, wherever you want to go, how long you want to go. We got no timetable on your story. I just love for people to hear your story and whether you want to get in the books you've written or where you want to take it. But for sure, let's let them know who Ted is. Well, maybe the first place that I'll go is that I'm the father of Joshua, and Joshua was my son. And Josh was injured at five months of age by his very first vaccine shot and developed an

uncontrolled seizure disorder that he had for his entire life. So that experience with my son changed me dramatically. It altered my life and my path, my focus. I'm currently the president of the Vaccine Choice Canada, which is a not-for-profit organization that is its mandate is to protect our right to inform consent, particularly around vaccinations, protect the right of parents to make medical decisions for their children, and bodily sovereignty. And we've been around since 1982, so we've got more than 40 years in this battle. But yeah, that's where my focus has been. It's been on vaccinations and trying to bring awareness to other parents. My background in terms of my profession is that I was a psychotherapist in private practice. My,

base of operations was in the lower mainland of Vancouver. So I spent most of my adult life in the lower mainland, and then recently I've moved to Colonna. So my journey has been around dealing with a severely disabled child, learning how to make peace with that. That brought some guidance into the kind of work that I did in my counseling practice. I wrote a book called Peace Begins with Me. In 2017, my son passed away.

In honoring of him, I decided to collect all of the information I had gathered over a 30-year period and put that into a book. And so I wrote a book called Dare to Question, one parent to another. Yes, that's the one. And they target audience for that as other parents. And I wanted them to know that we've been misled, egregiously misled about the safety and efficacy and necessity of vaccines. It's a conversation that not many people want to hear. So it's a difficult conversation, but I feel compelled that other parents recognize

that there's information that's been withheld from them, and they need that in order to make good decisions for their children. So how is that for a quick and dirty introduction? Well, one of the things that is hard to refute, you know, when somebody walks on, on to the show and goes, you know, like vaccines are not what they've been billed to us to be. The first question, you know, that a parent or, you know, someone's going to ask, and it's not a wrong question asked, it's like, how do you know? How do you know? And one of the things that I find, you know, I remember Jamie Sinclair coming on, a military man, and he talked about

all the vaccinations he'd had. And then one of his sons got the, one of his kids, I can't remember it was his son or daughter. I think it was his son. Got the H-1N1 in 2010, if memory serves me correct and he lost all his platelets and he started like bleeding from everywhere and the doctors wouldn't admit that it was you know was the vaccine and he's like well but what else would it be you know like we just had this happen and so that was really eye-opening to me uh in the middle of covid to realize like this isn't something new this is this is something and when you come on sir and say you know your son was born in 84 and you know his first vaccine things things go on, I think it's like that's something to ponder as a parent.

And so I guess I want to ask about Joshua. I want to ask about being a young parent. And you know, one of the things, you know, you can never prepare yourself as a parent for is probably the first year. You're like, holy man, this is, this is something. And one of, you know, some other parents do it better than others. Some look at the vaccines like, they're already questioning like, do I need this? And they go into a deep dive and steer clear of it.

But most, I don't. don't know what the percentage is, but most of us just go along and get the vaccine and everything else. Was that you back then? And maybe you could just walk us through. Yeah. No, you're right. 98, 99% of parents simply follow the recommended vaccine schedule. It's not a conversation that most parents have. And I was one of those parents. I simply did what was expected. Do you, you know, schedule your baby for a well baby visit and while they're there they you know your it's not even a discussion you know it's this is just what happens and so you just go along with it you're a young parent you surrender a lot of i learned medical decisions to those that you think uh know better than you

and um you just acquiesce and josh was uh severely injured by his shot i mean his he was born healthy, very beautiful, healthy baby boy, ate well, slept well, breastfed. And right after the shot, he became a very agitated child, discontent, sleeping was interrupted. It just wasn't the same child. And we actually took him to our family doctor twice in the next couple of weeks saying there's something wrong. And what I often say now is that the child that we took to the doctor's office, was a different child came home with us that day. And four weeks after his shot, he had his first ground mal seizure. It was about 25 minutes long.

I actually didn't know what was happening. He just went absolutely rigid on the bed. We called an ambulance, took him to the hospital. They assumed it was what they call a febrile seizure, even though it didn't appear that he had a fever. Sent us back home again. the next day and, you know, just assume it was a one-off and all would be well. Well, a month later, he had another seizure 20 to 25 minutes long. And that's really, it was that seizure that really

took the wind out of me because now I knew there was something seriously wrong with my son. We almost lived at Children's Hospital for the first five years of Josh's life. The seizures increased in frequency such that at one point, when he was four years old, He was seizing 12 to 15 times a day. And each seizure was 15 to 20 minutes long. So it was excruciating, watching your child seize feel absolutely powerless to stop it. We tried every medication that the doctors could consider. We tried experimental drugs.

We did some things in hindsight that, you know, I just feel sick about what I did to my son. We did something called implanting a vagus nerve stimulator, which was basically a shock unit that was implanted into his chest cavity with a battery pack, wires wrapped around the vagus nerve that goes up his neck into his brain, and it would shock him every 30 seconds. And the theory was it would get his brain used to a higher level of electrical impulse. It didn't improve his condition at all, and we finally had the device turned off.

But you couldn't remove it because the wires become embedded on the, a vagus nerve and you can't remove them. So it just the things that we did out of complete desperation. Probably the saving grace, Sean, is that when Josh was five, the chief neurologist at Vancouver Children's Hospital, who had gotten to know very well because we spent so much time there, pulled me aside one day and he said, Ted, don't bring Josh back anymore. And I just said, what do you mean don't bring him back anymore?

And he said, there's nothing we can do. And he said, every time you show up, uh, we realize how, you know, unable we are to help your son. And so I suggest you just keep them at home. And that was a shock, but it was probably a gift because I stopped counting on our allopathic pharmaceutical system to try to rectify this. And at that point in my life, I had no knowledge of, you know, what we call complementary medicine or, you know, other forms of health care.

But I was not willing to give up in my son. So I found a natural path, and we began to detoxify him from heavy metals. We used homeopathic remedies, herbal remedies, tissue salts, chiropractic acupuncture. And his condition improved dramatically. So over a period of three years, he went from seizing 12 to 15 times a day with seizures, as I said, from 15 to 20 minutes long to once a week, so three to four seizures a month and each seizure was about a minute long, which was significantly more manageable. The bottom line was, though, is that my son could never be left unattended because you never

knew when he was going to seize. So it required constant vigilance. I slept with my son every night because I learned that I couldn't fall asleep at night because I was always waiting for him to seize. And so I discovered that if I slept with him when he seized, I was. would wake up and then I could care for him. So for all of his, all of his life, I slept with him. And that changes a whole lot of the family unit, as you can imagine. Yeah, I, I appreciate you sharing because I'm the first time you told me the story, I'm like,

oh man, right? And I don't have the words. I don't know even what to say. And you've probably heard them said to you, you know, over the course of, you know, what is that, 39 years? now since he was first born. You know, like, you've probably heard it all. And so I just appreciate you sharing it. And I, you know, because I can imagine rehashing it and walking back through all the things that went on is not the easiest thing to do. I've had different people talk about reliving past experiences when you go back to, you

know, some traumatic events. And not that your son was traumatic, but certainly, you know, having to talk about it over and over again. I assume, although easy because it is your son, it's probably difficult. Would that be safe to say in the same aspect? Sean, you're right. I mean, there's parts of that story that are, it evokes a lot of emotion because of how challenging those times were. And yet I feel compelled to share his story.

I want to honor him and his journey and what he taught me in that journey and what I've been able to teach others. So I feel it's a story that it's important that I tell, and it feels like a way of honoring Josh. So in some ways, I do it gladly. You know, it's funny the way my brain works because I feel like I'm having deja vu from the first time I was sitting beside you to listen to this story. And the next question that my brain rests on is like, please tell me over the course of that time, you know, close to 40 years of being involved with seeing a vaccine injured person firsthand and being like talking to people and trying to like, hey, guys, like this is dangerous.

Has there been success? Do you see, you know, like as COVID-19 is coming in and they say, everybody's going to get vaccinated, you're like, this is scary. I mean, like, you know, some people are talking about like they saw things coming from five years ago. Now some people are awake from two years ago. Some people woke up yesterday. And they go, how can't people see this?

And I run into Ted and I'm like, Ted's been staring at this sucker for 40 years. Like, what have, what have you learned over that course of time, I guess? Well, you're right, Sean, is that, you know, for most of the 40 years, it was a pretty small audience that could hear what we had to say or wanted to hear what we had to say. COVID has changed that. And, you know, the lawyer that we hired, we, vaccine choice Canada filed a lawsuit against the federal government and the Ontario government over their COVID mandates.

And we did that in July of 2020. And Rocco Golati is our lawyer. And he says, Ted, you know, with no disrespect, but the best thing that happened to Vaccine Choice Canada was COVID because people are finally recognizing the, the Cal as disregard that our governments and public health media, medical industry has for those that are injured by vaccines. And what I say is, you know, we have a different standard of care

and concern. You know, if you're injured by, you know, what they call a vaccine preventable disease, I mean, that's outrageous and it should never happen. But if your child is injured by a vaccine, it's not only is it disregarded, you're actually shamed and censored for speaking about it. Because by speaking about it, it shows that it is not safe and effective and they want to keep that image up. Would that be the thought process? They are more committed to the ideology of vaccinations than they are to health of our children is what I've learned.

And so we're in a battle. The censorship around this, Sean, is absolutely incredible. Just to give you an idea is that in 2019, Vaccine Choice Canada launched a billboard campaign in Toronto. And we contracted for 30 days to have, I can't remember how many impressions, like, you know, that you buy so many impressions on electronic billboards. So let's say a thousand or 10,000 impressions.

And we simply ask questions like, you know, what are the risks of vaccination? How many vaccines is too many? What is informed consent? You know, we were trying to open a conversation. And the billboards lasted four days, and the Ontario government forced the billboard company to take them down. Not allowed to have those kinds of conversations. And, you know, again, we were simply asking questions. We wanted to open up a space for some conversation because, you know, our vaccine schedule has tripled since my son was a child.

And there's no consideration about how many vaccines is too many. What can our immune system handle? And I don't know how much you know about the history of vaccination, but... Please share, Ted. Well, the vaccine that injured my son, which is the D.P.T. shot, which is diphtheria, protasus, which is whooping cough and tetanus. It was a very dangerous vaccine. It caused significant neurological injury.

And in the United States in particular, vaccine manufacturers were being sued by parents whose children were harmed. They were losing millions and millions of dollars in these lawsuits. And in 1985, they approached the U.S. government Congress and they said, you know, the lawsuits against our industry are going to put this industry out of business. You might need us in the event of biological warfare. And so we're demanding immunity from liability for injury caused by our products. and if you don't give us immunity, we're going to stop making vaccines.

And Congress caved, and in 1986, they gave vaccine manufacturers legal and financial immunity for any injury or death caused by their products. And so think about that for a moment. So it's the only product of all the products in the world that are sold where the manufacturer is not liable for injury or death caused by their products. even when it's acknowledged that their product was defective. The result of that was, I'm sure the champagne got poured that night when that went through Congress because it basically said to the vaccine industry, you could make as many vaccines as you want.

There's no liability here. And then on top of that, they were very instrumental in pressuring governments to mandate vaccines. So they didn't even have to pay for advertising. They didn't have to pay for liability. they just had to coerced governments to mandate vaccines. And so over the next number of years, the schedule tripled of the number of vaccines that were now recommended,

and in half the states are mandated. In Canada, we actually, vaccines are still voluntary. There are two provinces, Ontario, New Brunswick, that mandate that you fill out a piece of paper if you don't receive all of the recommended vaccines. And what I say is what's mandated is filling out a piece of paper. But if you ask parents whether vaccines are mandatory or not for your child to attend public school in Canada, probably 80 to 90 percent of parents think that they are.

So they've been misled about the nature of the requirements for vaccination of their children to attend public school in Canada. Well, it's funny. I think about that and I'm like, it's just become part of society, right? Like you vaccinate your kid at a young age. You vaccinate them at a certain age again, right? They have their sets of vaccinations and somehow over time, it's just become what you do. And nobody looks at any data.

And, you know, I don't know what the stats are. Maybe you do off the top of your head, I'm sure you do. you know, like off of the, the set of childhood vaccines, how many people are injured, how many people die so that it's not like so perceptible so that people are like, hey, something's really wrong. Because, you know, like COVID was, I would argue, the vaccine there was like everybody knew somebody was injured,

but it was so suppressed by the media that nobody could be like, everybody's being injured, what the heck is going on, right? Media kept saying it's safe and effective, it's safe and effective. And by doing that, they suppressed it so much until, you know, the freedom convoy and different things started happening. But the war on anyone who spoke out against it was pretty wild. But maybe I'm like once again, I look back at all the other ones.

Maybe I'm immune to that because they've been doing the same thing on all those, I assume. It's just how many people or families are affected by childhood vaccines. Well, Sean, that's the million dollar question right there. How many? What's the rate of harm? What's the rate of injury from vaccines? And the answer is we don't know. And the reason we don't know is because we don't care to know. Now, if you ask me what I think is the rate of injury, I would say 100%. There's no way that you can't inject mercury and aluminum, which are neurotoxins. that affect the brain, that affect the immune system, into our infants. In some provinces in Canada, we inject the hepatitis B vaccine into babies within hours of being born. And it has aluminum, a neurotoxin, in that product. To me, what is the amount of injury? It has to cause injury. But again, we don't recognize it.

We're under this false assumption that vaccines are safe and effective. That's what we've been told over and over and over again. So even when your child is injured like my son, when, as I said, the child we brought home was a different child than the child we took to the doctor's office that day, they absolutely denied that it had anything to do with vaccination. And I would have these ongoing arguments with the doctors at children's hospital, who we assume are the best in the profession.

profession caring for our children. And they would not acknowledge that it had anything to do with the vaccine. Now, at the time, I was a graduate student at the University of British Columbia, and I had access to the medical library. So I went into the medical library and researched that vaccine product myself. And that's where I discovered the amount of lawsuits that were happening in the United States that actually forced the hand of Congress in 1986. there was abundant evidence that the vaccine that injured my son was dangerous. And as a matter of fact, that product has been withdrawn from the North American market because of how dangerous it is. Now, the kicker is, Sean, this is how this devious industry works, is that they still sell that product in third world countries

because it's cheaper to produce than the product that they make available in Canada. And in 2017, Dr. Peter Abbey, who was involved in vaccinating children in Africa, realized that he had the perfect opportunity to see the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated children because of how they were administering the vaccine in Africa. And as a result of his research, he discovered that children that were vaccinated with the product that injured my son had a 10 times higher mortality rate than children that were unvaccinated, 10 times. And they continue to this day to use that product. So even when there's clear scientific evidence of injury, it's not talked about.

It doesn't trigger a response from our CDC or FDA or health candidates say these products ought to be withdrawn. And you're right about the COVID shots. The COVID shots actually have more reported adverse effects from that shot than all of the vaccines combined over a 30-year period. And yet they haven't withdrawn that product from the market. I don't know if you saw the press conference that was done by the commissioners of the National Citizens' Inquiry two weeks ago. They are preparing their report as a result of the more than 300 testes,

They received in eight cities across Canada as part of the inquiry, but they felt compelled to issue a preliminary report because of the urgency to bring to the attention of the public and government that the COVID vaccines were never objectively proven to be safe or effective. And they're recommending that those products be withdrawn until the evidence is provided. And what they stated, Sean, in their press release was that it's not their appearance. that these products weren't proven safe or effective, they weren't even required to it. When you read the contract with the pharmaceutical companies for licensing the product in Canada, the word safety and efficacy aren't even included in the contract.

There was no requirement that they provide objective evidence of safety or efficacy for the COVID shot. Now, I don't know how much more egregious it has to get before we finally say there's something wrong here and do something about it. But here we are. We're back in, you know, we've got our health authorities. We've got Dr. Teresa Tam saying, be up to date with your booster shot. Well, I was just, it's on page three of your book. I chuckled this morning because this book, George Orwell's 1984,

I'm sure most people by now have picked up a copy because it got talked about so many times throughout COVID. But, I mean, it is, reading it is, you need a cold shower, or as I would do, you need a funny show afterwards to kind of brighten you back up because it's so depressing and it's such a dark, but like smart, well-written, clever book. Anyways, on page three of your book you have, during times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. And that's George Orwell from 1984. And I was thinking about that this morning. I'm like, you know, what you're talking about is like, is essentially that. Like at this point, I listen to Teresa Tam is like, ah, I don't even know how we're even here. I don't know how we're here.

I don't know how you can be a doctor. Like, through COVID, okay. But sitting here today and hearing Teresa Tam, I don't see how every siren isn't going off in your world. except if you haven't been paying attention and you're just moving along. And saying all that, I don't know, because I sat and talked to Charles Hoff about it. And, you know, like, if you're worth even half your weight, you've noticed something is a little bit off. Like something is, something strange here. You know, when you can talk to more and more health care professionals, and they start talking about one of the questions they started asking, well, have you been vaccinated?

Right. That's one. It's like, oh, if they're asking that, it is very evident. Like, it is very, very evident. And how there isn't more outrage is a interesting question. Because where we sit, you know, like people are we doing mass again? I'm like, are we doing mass again? What are you talking about?

No, we're not going back. We can't go back. Come on, folks. We already know all the information. Here in BC, our health minister just announced. that you need to be masked to use health services in British Columbia. Announced that yesterday.

We still have vaccine mandates for healthcare workers in this province. I was just talking to Dr. Stephen Malthos and talking about Bill 36. And I don't even know what to say. Like I just, this is what disturbs me

me about the entire thing. It's either like there are some extremely evil people out there, which I think we can all agree. There certainly is. But how deep does the rot go? Or is it just the system is set up in a way that the evil doesn't have to be that much, and they can make the machine go the direction they want? Well, Sean, you're asking good questions. I mean, I think that's what's been revealed over the last two or three years is how deep is the rot. And we're discovering, at least I'm discovering, that every aspect,

of accountability that we thought was in place. Everything from our parliamentarians to our court system, to our college of physicians and surgeons, to our media, to me, every guardrail has been disabled. You're not allowed to have the conversation about the vaccine, about is it safe, is it effective, is it necessary? You can't even ask the question. That's misinformation. We can't have misinformation. We have laws now against misinformation. Good doctors like doctors. Like doctors, Dr. Charles Hoff is at risk of losing his license for writing a letter to our chief medical officer to saying, this is what I've noticed in my patients. What kind of advice do you have and how do I treat my vaccine injured patients? To acknowledge vaccine injury, puts your career

at risk. Dr. Stephen Maltouse has lost his license for asking the same questions. Dr. Mark Trosey, Dr. Patrick Phillips, those that have the integrity and the courage to say this is what I'm seeing, there's something wrong, have lost their license. And so what's the message? The message to the rest of them is keep your head down, keep your mouth shut, or we're going to take away your livelihood. I think we're in a very dangerous time. Well, we're certainly in a dangerous time. All right. It's every generation has their different, I don't know, battles or times that come through that really test a society's

I don't know metal gumption and our version of it right now is is like death by a thousand cuts in all these like slow you can just see like I just

I think back to the Guleg archipelago when it's it's this slow game or this big game of solitaire where some moves are immediate and fast others take this

you can almost see the hand motion you know in in politics of like this is exactly what they're doing and people like that isn't what they're doing but I mean over six months of time, that's what they did.

And then they continue to do that. And, you know, and on and on this game goes. It's painful to watch. Honestly, it's painful. It's like, I sit here and now, like, there's, you know, I was just saying in the middle of COVID, one thing about it I enjoyed about the middle of COVID, if there was anything to enjoy, was I felt like when there was a key piece of information come out, everybody shared it.

And there was like this underlying current of people sharing the same information. you knew, that makes, oh, okay, and everyone didn't watch it. Now it's like there is so much information. It is information overload. It is a fire hose on steroids. And I'm like, I can't even keep up with it. You know, like all the stuff, it's like, oh, this is how they're getting information out. Let's blast them with everything we got so they can't make up or down and what's going on.

And we can still, you know, have an actual Nazi get in the parliament. And you're like, what is it going to take here, folks, to get the entire Canadian population, or majority of it to be like, this is not on the up and up. We need to really change gears awfully fast, except, I don't know, certainly the Nazi woke a bunch of people up, I think. But the rest of us are like, I can't believe this is actually happening. Well, I'm sure it was just, you know, this rogue speaker of the house, Sean. You know, I can see why it's so difficult to see what's going on. because when you begin to see what's going on,

there is such a sense of loss, grief, despair about the state of our country that you don't want to see it. You know, I see it just in my conversation around vaccine injury. For a parent to recognize that they may have participated in the harming or their killing of their child is unbearable. And so you hold on to the ideology. You hold on to, no, wasn't the vaccine. seen, you know, act of God, anything other than, geez, you know, those 20 needles that I had put

into my baby before six months of age might have had something to do with the fact that my child is no longer healthy. You know, I've learned that this, it's like we're holding on to these ideologies. We have a belief system, a paradigm that we think is the way the world is. and when somebody comes along and cracks that, we don't want to hear it, so we attack them. You had a line, it might even be in the preface of the book. I actually, I can't remember. And you might have said it like 16 times through there too, so forgive me.

But it's, you know, when I hear you say that, the thing that comes to mind is the courage to ask questions. Like, we think, I'm just putting myself, I'm trying to remember, like, when Shay was first born, my oldest boy. and them coming and taking blood and things and being very to my core uncomfortable with how they were doing things around a child. And it doesn't mean that they were being mal, like ill intention.

It's just part of the procedure. This is what we got to do. It's protocol. And yet as a parent, I couldn't voice what I was thinking. And I was wrestling internally with this is this way it is. It'll be over soon. Just, you know, and you can kind of get my thought. process. And yet, there's some wonderful people out there that can just dare to ask a few

questions. And if you do that, you can then start to be like, well, that actually doesn't make any sense. And when it comes to childhood vaccines, you know, like one of the things, one of the things I've, you know, like chickenpox, right? They've got a vaccine for chicken pox. My generation can understand it. And anyone older than me certainly can, because we used to have chicken pox parties. Everybody wanted to get chicken pox and so their kid would go through it and you go, was it, uh, was it this great thing? Well, chicken pox wasn't fun, but it wasn't like you were close to death. It was just like, you know, it was an uncomfortable week or four or five days, whatever it lasted, you know, and yet now we have a vaccine for it. And we act like that's a normal thing. Why,

why, why is that normal? Why? Why do we, and then, okay, if that's normal, well, how many vaccines do we need to have until we are just good. Is there anything in such a thing as like this is the level? You know, it's like this comes back to the actual vaccination of a population question. 50% needed. No, no, no, 60%. No, no, 75. 80.

Actually, we want 90. Actually, we'd like everybody. It's like, well, at some point, we have to realize it never stops. Because when it's about money and shareholders and trying to continually go up and up and up, what are they going to do? They're going to find new products. They're going to try and get you in. they've already been told they aren't held liable right so they can they they don't really get

you know like maybe people inside the organization care but as an organization as machine they do not care they care about the dotted line we need more money so how can we do that well we outdate products we bring in new ones we run it through the the gambit of here's a couple things and away we go Sean you're absolutely right in the the chickenpox is a good example of that it wasn't broad in because of health concerns it was broadened because of the inconvenience of caring for a sick child. And so it was purely inconvenience and economic reasons that a parent would have to stay home and care for their child.

That's how they marketed the product. And so, you know, your next question is a good one. Like how many is too many? Because every vaccine that becomes recommended, that's a billion dollar boon for that manufacturing company. You know, they want to have as many vaccines. as they possibly can. And so do you know how many vaccines a child would get now before age 18 if they follow the recommended schedule?

No. Give me an idea of how many you think. I'm going to say and then two a year. So let's go with seven and then 30? So at the current time, there's 18 vaccines that are recommended for our children. I was shooting high. I was thinking the states that are as high as 70-some. Well, but that's doses.

So 18 different vaccines. But now we talk about doses. So, you know, some vaccines you get once, some you get twice, some you get four times. And so, you know, COVID, for example, they recommend two a year now every six months. If you follow the recommended schedule, including COVID, it's over 100 shots. Holy maca. See, I guess my brain, when you said 18 and under, my mind directly went to how many times I'm getting poked. It wasn't what schedule, what it is about chicken poxed and about COVID.

I'm thinking, like, how many times am I getting poked? 100 times is recommended. It's not poked because a lot of the vaccines are now. combination vaccines that have three, four, five, six different vaccines in one shot. So again, you think about that. So our infants are being exposed to measles, mumps, and rebella, for example, is three different disease conditions, three different viruses. Those are live virus vaccines.

All of them are live viruses. So we're injecting our infants with three live viruses at the same time. That doesn't happen in nature. So what does that do to the immune system? How does an infant's immune system respond to that? You know, we know that an infant's immune system is immature to at least 12 months of age. And yet, starting on day one, we're injecting our kids with this stuff. Nobody asked the question, how many is too many.

Well, and you bring up something that I think is, you know, is a problem of our society, the more we, I don't even know anymore. Is it progress? Like, are we progressing? I don't know what we're doing anymore. Inconvenience of parenting an unhealthy child. Like the inconvenience of life. That's what chickenpox was.

It's an inconvenience. Like, can we protect? And actually I've heard, you know, like if you get one of the vaccines and you could probably clear me up on this. But, you know, it helps prevent getting shingles at an older age. And I'm like, well, is shingles life threatening? Well, no, it's just uncomfortable. I'm like, well, what are we going to do? protect we're going to inject ourselves with so many things that we can never ever be sick again

do we actually think that's possible and then on top of that do we actually want that because i feel like you know like kids you know like one of the things is a young parent you realize man they they touch everything they lick everything they are like eating you know and you go oh my god but that's how immune system grows and defends and and all these wonderful things that our bodies do now the idea is to helicopter parent and inject them with everything so we believe they become Superman that they can be impervious to everything I mean how do you know that's even possible and when does it end when does it start and what what are we going to we're going to try and we're going to try and get rid of the the common flu do we think the the common flu is such an inconvenience

of parenting this or is it just part of life that you're going to get the flu from time to time and we are going to have a flu season and we are going to get colds and we are going to do these different things that have been around for a long time. So, Sean, you just identified two paradigms that exist out there. One is the vaccine paradigm is that if we vaccinated enough with enough vaccines, your child will never get sick, and that's the goal. The other paradigm says, you know what? Like, we're in this relationship with nature, and there's actually benefit to the child

to get chicken pox. There's benefit to the child to get measles, to get mumps. And what it does is it primes and develops. the immune system and makes it stronger, it makes it work. It helps it to develop, to develop a vigorous response to an acute infection. So to me, it's like, you know, you go to the gym. And when you go to the gym to develop muscles, you have to lift weight. You have to test the system.

You have to resist it, right? Well, we're pretending as if somehow we can avoid any kind of opportunity for the body to develop an immune response to a natural infection. And so there's this battle that's going on about, I say it's ideology. And there's increasing evidence that the more vaccines you get, the sicker your child actually gets, that it so undermines the immune system that, you know,

conditions that were rare in childhood, cancer, asthma, allergies, seizure disorders, you know, you name it, those are now commonplace. You know, I don't know if you can remember as a kid, like I can remember going to camp and those kinds of things and you, you know, kids weren't sick. Nowadays, you go to camp and everybody lines up in front of the nurse and hands over the medication because every kid is on medication. Well, I just think of peanut butter or peanuts. The peanut, right, like as a kid going to school, you never, I would say folks, you know, maybe I'm a little wrong. on this, but I'm trying to remember.

I don't remember ever having kids that were like, oh, we can't have peanut butter in a school. But now that's almost like, well, I mean, they literally make lines of food now that have no peanuts in them, right? Like, and I, case in point, yesterday I went and picked up muffins that have zero peanuts in them, right? Not, you know, like, just so that it, when it goes out, that they can have a cupcake and not have to worry about a peanut dropping a kid, right? And added to that, not only did we not have.

peanut allergies as kids, but the allergies nowadays are so severe that it's life-threatening, that we have to have these kinds of bands on airplanes and in schools or whatever it is. So how did that happen? Well, there's a book that explains that very carefully. A Canadian by the name Heather Fraser wrote a book about the peanut allergy, and it was because they started using peanut oil and vaccines. And the problem is whatever is in a vaccine has the potential, to become an allergen. And this is not my opinion. Health Canada actually says this on their website. Because what you do is you ramp up the immune system. And that's why the mercury and the aluminum is in these vaccines. It causes the immune system to go into hyper mode. The problem is anything

that's in that shot, even fragments of peanut oil or whatever, you know, a lot of these vaccines are growing in chicken eggs. So now people are allergic to, to eggs. I mean, what you start to realize is there's this Pandora's box that gets injected into our kids. The immune system goes into hyper-alert, and it's looking for a reason about why it's in an alert state, and anything that it sees, it starts to see as a problem. And so now we have a chronic condition of allergies in most kids. You know, in the United States, 54% of kids have at least one chronic health condition now. And I assume the same is true in You look at the rates of autism.

Like, do you know what the frequency of autism is now? I don't. You know, in 1980, it was extremely rare. One in 10,000. I mean, you talked to a physician who was practicing pediatric medicine back then. They never saw autism. Now the accepted rate is 1 in 36. And in boys, it's around 1 in 25.

So that means in a typical classroom, there'll be at least one child. In every classroom. Well, just, we got to stop there just for a second. I want everybody to hear that one more time. So in the 80s, 1 in 10,000, which, you know, I just, I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I just want to pull up the exact number here. So bear with me, Ted, for one second. One equals 0.001, right? So, and I guess if I multiply that by 100, that's 0.01 of a percent, I think, is what that equates to.

Am I right on my math thinking that? The bottom line, it was extremely rare. It just, you know, you think back to my childhood. I didn't know anybody with autism. Yeah, and like 1 in 36 becomes 2.7 percent. And 1 divided by 25 becomes 4%. Well, I didn't even need to do that, and I could have told it. And I just, I do like, think about that.

And actually, why aren't we talking more about just that? Everybody loves to, everybody loves the statistics of things. They want to push the statistic of one way or another, right? Like we see people do it. It doesn't matter the issue. They, they want to quote different things. But you, you think about those numbers, just hard numbers. Like, that's, that's, I didn't even, like, to me, like, just looking, if I was an outsider, looking on.

So what have we done there? Like, what's changed from the 80s to now? Like, certainly you can look at, you. You can look at how we create food and different things like that. That's certainly part of it there. But, I mean, what else has changed that we do with children over the course of 40 years? And I've just pointed out clearly, you know, there was no chicken pox vaccine when I was a kid. It was like you get chicken pox.

You almost celebrated it. It sucked. You had these little scabs and, you know, honest, on and went. Now they're literally putting a chicken pox vaccine out there. so you never have to do that again. So that's just one small example. And I've already, you're telling me about your son. And I bring up Jamie Sinclair, who's talking about the H1N1,

and you go, isn't it kind of becoming very clear? Like, you know, they can call things anti-vax all they want. But, I mean, just take a step back and look at what's changed in the last 100 years. It can be made pretty simple. There's been one underlying thing that's being slowly ramping, up over and over again. And the further you dig back into it and some of the studies early on, what was the problem they kept shutting down on? They kept killing people. I mean, they kept killing people dead. See, but you're asking questions that aren't allowed to be asked. You're now a dangerous

anti-vaxxer. And it doesn't matter that you may have vaccinated your child with every vaccine. If you ask the questions that you just asked, now you're irresponsible. Now you're spreading misinformation. Now you're an anti-vaxxer. And so we're not allowed to have these conversations. And so it takes courage to dig into this. That's why I titled my book, Dared a Question, because it takes courage. And what I discovered is that the more you dig in, the more you realize how massively we have been lied to. You discover that vaccines are they're not tested the same way normal pharmaceutical products are tested. I don't know if you know that.

Like a normal pharmaceutical product, take Viagra, for example. So that was tested for 10 years. They had a population that was given Viagra, and they had another population that was given a pill that looked exactly the same, but it was a placebo. It was inert. And the study was blinded so that the researchers, didn't know who got the Viagra and who got the placebo.

And after 10 years, they break the code to see what the efficacy is and what the safety difference is. That's how a pharmaceutical product is tested. And even then, we still have situations like thalidomide and Oxycontin and others where it slips through and cause of massive harm. Sean, none of the vaccines on the childhood schedule were tested that way. none of them were tested against a neutral placebo. So when you don't test it against a placebo, you have no way of knowing whether it works or whether it's safe. You can't tell. The other thing is that, as I said, most pharmaceutical products, the safety testing period is between five and ten years.

Do you know what the active period of monitoring the safety of vaccines are? Take your guess. I don't know. How many years did you say for the other five to ten years? Oh, my God. I would think five years, but you're going to tell me it's way less than that. Well, the longest is four weeks and the shortest. Four weeks?

Four weeks. And the shortest is 48 hours. So they don't want to know. They don't want to know. Right. I mean, why would you do that? Like, well, you nailed it. They don't want to know.

They want these products to go out there. They tell everybody safe and effective. And you're not allowed that. They have the money. They have money to move absolute mountains. And so they, they, man, that's, there. It's, I want to stick on this just for one second, Ted, because I want to make sure my brain is getting this,

because it's trying to register this, and I don't know why it's struggling. You're saying childhood vaccines. The longest study is four weeks. Of active monitoring. So the way it works with vaccines is the way they actually determine safety is by giving it to our children and then counting the number of adverse events that happen. That's how they determine safety of vaccines. And then we can say to that that they make reporting adverse reactions extremely tough. Then, as you just pointed out through your entire story, they shame you for it and actually don't believe you.

So how the heck can we possibly know, which means it's kind of rigged from the beginning? Absolutely. It's intended not to actually produce the results of safety or efficacy. And that was why the commissioners of the National Citizens Inquiry came out so strongly two weeks ago, because exactly the same thing happened with the COVID vaccine. The manufacturers didn't even have to provide evidence of safety or efficacy. And then the government goes in May. mandates this product that had no evidence of safety or efficacy.

Like, if that's not criminal, I don't know what is. The word that keeps coming up in my head is it's a racket, right? If I was part of the mafia, this is a racket, man. I'm making billions of dollars. And, you know, like, I just had Eric Heckeron. That one was an interesting conversation. He's talking about directional energy, warfare, not warfare. weapons I think

D-E-Ws yeah maybe it is DEDE DERCEDAWP I said to them why why wouldn't the US if they got this power just do it on Russia and just absolutely destroy them with all these earthquakes everywhere and it goes because it's it's all show like this is this is a big old they're funneling

money through there it's a racket it's mafia we have a way of getting money from you and putting it when they talk about wealth transfer you understand it's a racket oh okay so you sit here and I listen to you and I go, oh, like this is a,

they found a different way with the buy-in of citizens, which is honestly extremely clever that we're all just lining up and not worrying about, you know, ah, it's just one in 10,000. What's the big deal? What are you guys all worried about? Look at the percentage of that.

And my brain, yeah, like that's extremely rare. Like, you know, it's extremely rare. But when you start to add in and start to see now that, they won't listen to anyone who actually has a legitimate case and they won't listen and they won't write it in and they make the what is the actual number and then it's like well that actually isn't that rare you know and i everybody's seen this if you had your eyes open with covid you could vaccinate or non vaccinated if you talk to friends and family everybody knows somebody who was was injured now how bad that's you know once again that's that is on a scale, right, from dead to, you know, as we saw with a, I'm forgetting her name right now, Ted, who was on stage with us in Salmon Arm? Jamie.

Oh, yeah, Kristen, and, uh. Yes, yes. And I apologize to them. I'm spacing on a name here, but she's been like severely injured. It's like you can't refute that sitting right there. Well, when did it happen? How did it happen? All these questions.

It's like, here's a healthy young woman who. is vaccine injured folks it's like it's so evident it's not even funny anymore why are we even discussing this and yet if you skew all that and make up a story and the story's good enough and you have a billion dollars to keep pushing said story well then i mean that's why having the conversation is so tough and why you have the rise i think i hope the rise of independent media is starting to tell that story more and more because we're starting to see the need or maybe we've been seeing the need for a long time and we just didn't have enough voices to start listening to it and starting to push it.

But you're vaccine, unvaccinating. You saw it through COVID. It's undeniable. You're denying it to yourself at this point. If you can't sit around and look and go, actually, I got a buddy that played hockey and he had myocarditis or there's a second one or there's a guy who had a, you know, Bell's palsy or and on and on and on. It goes.

Yeah. Yeah. it's if if you again if you have the courage to look it's abundantly clear that we're dealing with a criminal organization in my view but it takes courage right now again you asked about what's the the frequency of vaccine injury so in 2017 the u.s. health and human service is contracted with Harvard Pilgrim Hospital in the United States to develop an automated system to try to capture vaccine injury. And so it was artificial intelligence that would go through all of the hospital records because everything is digital now and pull out adverse events that occurred in a temporal period

in relation to vaccination. And compare that to the actual number of reported injuries through the vaccine adverse events reporting system in the United States. So what percentage of adverse events do you think actually get reported? It's got to be like 1% or less. Yeah, it's less than 1%. Now, you would think that when they came up with a system that is much more efficient in identifying adverse events, you would think that if we really cared about health, we would

we would want that system implemented across the country do you know what they did when those results came out they shut down the research yeah this is what we were talking about this morning at the group of us

is it's not so much that every individual in let's call the health field are evil they're not There's so many wonderful human beings there. It's not even funny. But you get some bad characters in there, which there certainly are,

and you create a system where they can manipulate findings and what is being taught and all these different things. And you get to where you start to see that, you know, our health system isn't there to make us, yeah, sure, to fix a bone to, you know, try and keep you alive. I 100% don't think there's any issue with that. I think they're not trying to actively kill you, I think, for the most part. But they're not getting to the root of the problem. Because the root of the problem, as soon as you start looking for the root of the problem,

I don't think it's that hard to find, Ted. I actually think everyone that I've ran into, they're like, you pick up a couple books and you're like, something's off here. And the problem is once you know that, then you know that, you know, we both know what happens to all those people. they get railroaded out of the industry and they're no longer there to voice their concerns. And so, like, over time, something like the doctors and we'll see with Bill 36, how they're trying to take the 15 boards, put them down to six and consolidate, you're like,

that ain't good. They want the government, the ministry of health to have full control of the boards so that they can decide what goes on. That ain't good, folks, right? Like, there's so many things that aren't good. And yet, you know, I don't know, Ted, you've been looking at, this is why I love having your brain. I go, like, you've been staring at this for, you know, not a close to a full lifetime. It's like, do you have any ideas on how to create the conditions where bad people will do the right things? Well, most people, you know, let's go back to what you made some assumptions there that most people in health,

profession are well intended. And I absolutely agree with you. I think good people, compassionate people are attracted to the health profession because they think that that's the way they can help their fellow human beings. The problem is, is that the education of our health practitioners is massively distorted. It's biased. It's propaganda. It's developed by the pharmaceutical industry. So we're given a paradigm to work with that you're not allowed to question. And so, you know, vaccines is one of the pillars of our modern medical system right now. You know, when I first started doing my research and I was looking for information, and I'm finding all this information that identifies vaccine injury.

And so I write to our chief medical officer here in British Columbia, and this is like 20 years ago. And I just said, you know, I'm beginning to look at vaccine injury. My son was vaccine injured. And I think it's a lot more prevalent than we've been led to. believe you have a lot of confidence in vaccines, given your position and, you know, the encouragement you have for parents to vaccinate their kids with every available vaccine. Could you please provide me with the evidence that you rely on to come to that conclusion

that vaccines are safe and effective? Do you know what I got back? I got back a photocopy of an introductory page to a medical textbook, and he highlighted with a yellow highlighted the sentence that said, vaccines are a miracle of modern medicine. And that's what he sent me back. So I wrote him back and I said, well, if this was a grade six science test,

and I asked for evidence of safety and efficacy, and that was the answer you gave, you would have failed. And I expected a whole lot more from our chief medical officer. And did you respond to that? No, no, of course not. So the problem is we're dealing with It's not even incompetence.

That's like arrogance. Well, it's arrogance and it's ignorance. I mean, what I knew, even at that point in time, is that he couldn't defend his position because the evidence isn't there. And again, I've looked back, as I've explained to you, is that none of the vaccines on the childhood schedule are tested using what we call the gold standard of safety testing, which is comparing your product to a neutral placebo. Why won't they do that?

Because I'm sure they have done it, John. And the results are not good. So you don't do it. Again, to me, it's just common sense. You can't inject into our babies who are very fragile. Their immune system, their neurological system is developing at a rapid pace, and you're injecting neurotoxins into their bodies, aluminum and mercury, amongst dozens of other ingredients.

And we're pretending that somehow that's okay? It's insanity. I guess as a younger guy, I had so much faith in people in office, right? Like in government, I'm just going to put it as a general, like that they have, it sounds really stupid to say now, folks, but like that they have our best interest us out of heart, that they want us to, you know, have a healthy, free living and they're there to protect our interests, and they're there to, you know, make sure that, you know, society functions and on and on and on and on. And, you know, certainly I don't think that every one of the

politicians out there is out there to get us, but I think it has been corrupted. I mean, I don't think, you know, you get, if a guy walked in tomorrow and said, Ted, I'll give you a billion dollars I just need a year's of your time or four years of your time and I want you to push this thought process I mean a billion dollars a lot of money and I'm not saying all politicians get that and I'm being a little facetious here in my number but you know we're talking large numbers we're talking opportunities that they see who can move and shake different populations and where the pinch points are like look at the head of unions right and how much pull they have And I've never thought of a, like up until the last year, I'd never really paid attention to any unions.

Well, you have the one million march for children and who comes out? All the unions, we're going to counter protest. You're like, how isn't this headline news? I'm not saying it's illegal, but this is kind of wild, isn't it? Like the unions are going to mass formation against parents wanting a little more voice in their kids' education. Like, think about that. How can you get it? But, okay.

And yet society, half the people don't. even know what happened. Like, that's interesting. That's, that's media right there, not, not, uh, reporting on it, right? Like, that should have been headline news. You know, a Nazi in parliament, I don't think there's any way headline news couldn't report on it, you know, corporate news, because it's like, it's so evident sitting right there. Like, it literally got marched out into our Canadian parliament. The United States is going, like, what the heck is going on up there? Like, everybody's, I shouldn't just say the United States were called out by the entire world at this point well it was so shameful behavior and then

then we throw the speaker of the house under the bus you know it it must be one bad guy that did it but there was what 338 or whatever politicians who got up like train seals and are clapping it's like if that didn't disgrace our parliamentary system and every member that's is in our parliament i don't know what that's like But I'm like you. I mean, you start off talking about you, you assume people in government were well intended. We assume people in the health profession are well intended. We assume that our media is telling us the truth.

I mean, there's a lot of assumptions that we made that I look back now and realize how naive I was. But that's what asking questions does, right? When you, when you, you know, in the title of your book, Dare to Question. You're going to find out where, oh, that makes kind of sense. well, that doesn't make any sense, right? And then it spurs on more questions. This bloody podcast, you know, it didn't, it's not like I got down to episode four in the middle of COVID, went, I know, okay, I walk out the door. It's like, if anything, it just started, more questions came, and then more.

And then you found out more and more people. I mean, Ted, I ran into you. I hear your story. And I go, like, here I thought maybe I was starting to maybe scratch the surface of understanding. some things. And I just keep going, I don't have a bloody clue. Like, I just, I don't have a bloody clue. And it's, I continually run in to people such as yourself that hopefully are not only teaching me, but the audience, more and more and starting to give out a more well-rounded view of what is actually going on. Well, and, Sean, I'm, I'm like you as I, I, so I've learned about

vaccines, but I asked the question about, so what else do I believe that I'm going to learn tomorrow wasn't true. And I'm starting to hold on to my beliefs a little more easily because I realize that we've all been manipulated. We've all been lied to it. We've been programmed. We've been deceived massively. And it takes some humility to admit that and then to have the courage to be able to look

and find the answers because the answers are not pleasant. and society doesn't like when you uncover these kinds of truths. That's, you know, I was talking to a guy about his relationship with his wife and possible divorce on the horizon. And then I take that, and the wife and I were watching Love is Blind, which is a, you know, a reality show, but I love it because it spurs on conversations with my wife. And one of the things you mentioned with vaccine injury is the parent has to confront that they played a part in it.

And that is a hard thing to do. And the reason I bring up the man and the wife and the reason I bring up the show is the show brought it to the forefront of you have to take control of your life. Like you have to understand the part you've played. was a conversation going on in the show and then I had the conversation with the guy and his wife and now we're here and I go man it's funny how this keeps coming up but one of the toughest things is to like wrestle with yourself and understand the part you have played whether it's in you know just the simple thing of allowing your child to be vaccinated and possible consequences

ted that you've lived and experienced or if your marriage is struggling the part you're actively playing in that or or or and everybody could probably look inwards and realize yeah, I've been running from this or I've been deflecting on it because that's really hard to

by all means folks I don't have the at the aunt. I'm not one that's living a perfect life by any stretch of the imagination but I do understand that like lots of times some of the problems in life you have to look internally first and try and get to the bottom of it

and the part that you're playing in order to remedy the solution to fix it. And that can go as close as you want, to your own body, to your personal relationships, to your house, to your community, et cetera. And more people need to probably look at, but that's a difficult thing. You were the one bringing it up

when it came to parents and their children being vaccinated. Sean, you're absolutely right. To me, the way out of this is that we have to begin to look at how we're responsible for what's happened. And I saw this in my own counseling practice. Like I did a lot of marriage counseling over 27 years of private practice. And what I can tell you is that almost everybody comes. And when I ask them, you know, what are they hoping for?

What will be the outcome that you're looking for? The answer is almost always that I'm going to change the other person. You know, so the wife comes in, wants me to change the husband. when the husband comes in and wants me to change the way. And I just say, that's pretty hard to do. But if you're here because you want to change, I think I can help you with that. We have to look at how we've contributed to the world being the way it is.

I'm writing a book right now, it's called A New Parent Guide, to help parents begin to make an informed decision. And so I actually start the book with informed consent, and I say that's the foundation of our ethical medical system, as informed consent, but you have a responsibility in informed consent that you have to collect the information, and then you have a decision to make.

And what I did and what almost every parent in this country does is that we give the responsibility for that decision away to somebody else. And we have to take it back. And again, it takes courage to do that. You know, we live in a society that we talk about what our rights are, but rarely do we talk about, what our responsibilities are. I think that we're responsible for our parliaments being the mess they are. I think we're responsible for our school boards being the mess they are, that we've allowed

this gender ideology to move into our school systems, and we haven't been vigilant enough to pay attention. We assumed, naively, that good people were in charge and they would do what's best for our kids. I no longer believe that to be true. I think that there's nefarious agendas that have into all of our systems from our school boards all the way up to our Supreme Court of Canada. And it's happened on my watch. I have to look at what I've done or not done that's allowed society to get so far off base. It's a heavy and also a liberating thought. And I say heavy because, like, man, to think that the reason we're where we're at is because of my actions.

It's like, well, I haven't done anything wrong. I've been paying my taxes. I've been going to work, you know. I check that box every four or five years. That's right. On the same token, I go, man, it's a liberating thought. Because it's like if we just take some responsibility, you know, and as Peterson would say, you know, pick up your cross and bear it, you know,

and take up the responsibility that you're abdicating, all of a sudden, you know, life becomes, a whole lot more bearable, I would argue. And I come all the way back to the inconvenience of parenting an unhealthy child. You know, like, one of the things about parenting is your child is going to get sick. Your child is going to break the rules. Your child is going to do a lot of different things. And that's part of parenting.

That's part of the beauty of parenting and the struggle and everything else. And if you abdicate all that, then you really have no control over who your child is. is becoming and one might argue if you extrapolate that out into society where society's heading because you've abdicated all the responsibility of helping it go where it needs to and and that's a large thought but also you can drill it all the way down to a very simple thought all in the same you know all in the same breadth really well one of the stories that I tell in my book piece begins with me I talk about an article that I read in a parent magazine

I don't know, 20 or more years ago. And the title of the article was, who tells the stories that are children here? And the author went on to explain that in previous generations, and particularly in our First Nations communities, is that they use storytelling as a way of passing on the values to the children of what they held as being important. And then the author asked the question,

who tells the stories that are children here today? And if you ask the question, who's the primary storyteller of children? The answer is TV, computers, video games, iPads. And what he argues is that we have given away the responsibility of storytelling to others, particularly people we don't know, and in many cases they don't share our values. And we have to take back the responsibility of storytelling to our kids. We have to take back the responsibility of teaching values to our children.

Yeah, we have to show up. because one thing the one thing about like the TV I was just it's funny I haven't talked

about Bully in a long time but there's a children's cartoon called Bly it's from Australia it's about dogs it is so wonderfully done it is not even funny

I can't speak highly enough about it and if you're a parent and you've never heard of it you know like it's like it's clever it's healthy it really it's just like so well done it's just so well done and they're short little cartoons that are like

i don't know 12 minutes long and it's a lot about imaginary play and different things like that and one of the episodes is on a sock puppet and it comes home from preschool to play a day with the kids and they have like a tablet and they end up getting sucked into the tablet and everything is like technology and then they look back at the pictures of it and they're like oh he doesn't look happy at all All he's doing is this tablet. And yet in the middle of it, the dad, bingo the dog, he's like, ah, kids, you got to stop. Ah, whatever.

And he's kind of like, because he's sucked into his own phone. And I'm like, man, if that isn't the truth of it, the hard thing about TV is like, it parents your kids for you. It keeps them distracted or engaged, whichever word you want to use. Well, you can get some things now. I've got to cook supper. and I can't have the kids destroying things and whatever else

you put the TV on because it'll at least distract so you can get this and I get it because I got three young ones and I completely sympathize because I understand the and yet my wife was gone. This is like a week and a half ago Ted and I can't remember what had gone on

and I said you know what? No we're just I unplugged everything I was like we're done with this it was funny how well they behaved when they didn't have that They went out, they played outside, they interact with them. Did they siblings get at each other, folks? Man, can kids just really irk one another?

And I think they love doing it. But it's funny, you get complacent with, we need this to help do this. And yet, if you just rip the cord off sometimes or rip the Band-Aid off, sorry, all of a sudden you realize it's almost an illusionary crutch that you have, that they need to have this. And once again, I always go, I'm not perfect. And I'm certain, as I'm telling this, you can tell that I'm, you know, like, yeah, one of the things parenting our children, I agree 100% is the TV and technology in general.

Yeah. Well, you know, over the last three years, one of the things that I've done is I've tried to understand why some people can see what's going on and most people can't. And so a question that I keep asking, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've had the luxury like you of interviewing some of the best people in the world, the Peter McCullas, the Pierre Corrie's, the, you know, Robert Malones. And I asked them, why do you see what others don't? Why do you have the courage to stand up and others don't?

But one of the more, I would say the most common response that I get from people that can see what's going on is that they'll tell me as they don't watch TV. And they unplug from social media. And I believe the TV is a very powerful propaganda tool. I think it's very dangerous and we have to treat it with caution. And we don't. Most people don't they, you know, it moves us into an altered state of consciousness where we're very easily programmed or manipulated.

So I think we need to recognize the danger of that. The other thing that I did with my daughter when, you know, when she was growing up and was, you know, wanting the TV and all that, is that I would allocate her, and I can't remember now, but let's just say she had 60 minutes a day to watch TV. And that's all she had. So she had to be very discerning about how she used that 60 minutes. So she would look at the TV guide and she'd figure out what programs she'd want to watch. And she would turn the TV off during commercials so that it didn't count as part of her 60 minutes.

but what I what I appreciated about is that she learned to use that time she was more discerning with how she used that 60 minutes because it was limited that's a that's a you know a parent teaching lessons within you know like within something that you know you can't see how could you ever teach a lesson in there but you're seeing you know one of the things I've really enjoyed with my kids is I've gotten away from watching sports. And yet sports plays such a healthy role in society, I think. You know, like it's one of the ways that different people come together to watch, you know, something that is, you know, should have no place in society.

You know, when you think about it, it's like two teams competing for the Stanley Cup. I mean, we get so invested in it. And yet it's such beautiful to see people come together and kind of put down their, their, it doesn't matter, their pitchforts, their shovels, their whatever. type of work they're doing to come together and kind of share in watching something together. And it just shocked me, you know, like Djokovic, right, in his stand for not getting vaccinated and being excluded from tennis, I got to watch him win his 24th, his 24th championship, right? And my son was watching.

I didn't think I would like tennis. You know, I've never been a giant tennis fan, but watching him, I'm like, I got to watch this. This is history in the making. And my son watched it. And afterwards, he's just like, this was so cool. Can we watch tennis again? I'm like, oh, wow, you know? And that's it is, once again, it doesn't mean that all TV is horrendous.

But moderation is good. Ted just mentioned on how he structured it so that your daughter would look at it and go, well, how can I maximize this? So I'm getting the best of what I want, right? That's a cool lesson. The other is like, you know, I look at it and I go like, there's still amazing human beings in all of sports that have stood up and done some, and what's wrong with supporting that?

I don't see anything wrong with it at all. Absolutely. Yeah. Now, Ted, I got to do the crude master final question with you. And today it is, it's he's words. What's one thing, well, he said, if you're going to stand behind something, stand behind it absolutely. What's one thing Ted stands behind? Well, there's a lot of things.

Let me think about that for a moment. I mean, because of my journey with my son, I stand behind. bodily sovereignty, the right that I have to make decisions about what goes into this body. I stand behind the right of parents to make decisions for their children. I stand behind informed consent. You know, my commitment is to humbly engage in this world and try to learn what I don't know. And not to assume that I know something when I don't. And so I find that this journey that I'm on is, this is actually the most exciting time of my life the last three years. Because I feel like I'm having conversations.

I'm wrestling with myself and with humanity and I'm developing discernment and I'm looking for wisdom. And those are qualities that I, and I didn't invest a whole lot of time and energy in for the first, you know, 60 years of my life, so to speak. I will mirror that because to me, as bad as it's been, part of me goes, this has been the most alive I've ever felt because it feels like every day I'm going to get to talk about something that could possibly move a needle, whether it does or doesn't, that's for the audience and for other people to decide. But I mean, gone are the days where, you know, you have a conversation.

Yeah, it was okay, you know, but it's like, no, we're trying to actively get to the bottom of some things and trying, you know, like we just had the $1 million march for children here in Lloyd Minster. I can safely say I'd never been a part of a protest in Lloyd Minster in my own community. That was something I was not at all not interested in, but I was very cautious of. and one of the interesting things that you folks in BC taught me was, man, they have an electric little community here that meets more than I care to admit. And I would really like to take that idea back to our area. And the thing is, is our area already has that community is just that we hadn't really formulated it in a way that encouraged it to show up. I mean, we kind of had and we kind of hadn't. And then you had the march and we had in our little community 650 to 700 people show up.

And you're like, wow, okay. People are here. And I got to give hats off to Gary and honestly, Ted and yourself and Charles and the group of Klona was interesting. But so was Vernon. So was Sam and Arm because you can tell that people are ready for like, okay, where are we going and how are we getting there? let's point a direction and let's paint a little vision for people to like get behind and let's get behind it because we're tired of where we're at and we realize if we don't start moving in a direction this only gets worse and so selfishly you know you go like this has been this dangerous weird

time that I do not like and I hope it doesn't get any worse and it feels like it's only going to get worse and on the flip side of that it's like the worse it gets the more better people I meet that are convicted to be like, we ain't changing. And this is going to change, you know, whichever way it comes, but we're not stopping. And those folks are fascinating to meet and rub shoulders with. I'm with you, Sean. I mean, how else would we have met the likes of Charles Hoff or Stephen Maltouse or, you know, I interviewed Pierre Corey two weeks ago and lovely conversation?

I mean, it's been a remarkable time. and the quality of people that have risen. And what's interesting is almost everybody, like I said, I asked them, you know, I thank them for their courage. And almost everybody kind of resists that label. And they say, I'm not being courageous. I'm just doing what I have to do. And it's like they're honoring the integrity of speaking the truth.

and they're willing to sacrifice all kinds of human creature comforts for a higher truth, for a higher morality. And I think that's what we're in now is, you know, Vincent Gerses, who's the ex-OPP officer in Ontario, who's been quite active in this freedom movement. He says, we're in the middle of an integrity test here. And it's either past or fail. You can't avoid the test. And so I think there's something incredibly.

rich about that is that every day our words our actions our thoughts um speak loudly about who we are and um it makes this time very precious and very meaningful in my view well i appreciate you uh you coming on and doing this ted and uh like i said to you before i left you know clona it's been very interesting getting you know running into you and and getting to know you a little bit and and certainly finally getting you on the show to have you tell a little bit about your story and impart your your thoughts and wisdom to the audience. And I just appreciate it. And I'm not sure where the future goes.

But knowing there's people such as yourself out in the BC area talking and getting the other and putting on things and trying to move the needle forward, it gives me a lot of hope that better days are ahead of us. So I appreciate you coming on and doing this and look forward to, you know, wherever the next time lands us. Well, and Sean, I want to honor you for your work is that you're creating a space where these conversations happen. And I think this is how humanity moves through this in a responsible way is that we have to have these kinds of conversations. We have to recognize what we don't know and we have to learn from people that have wisdom. And you hold that space beautifully.

So I think your role is absolutely critical to the advancement of this human experience. So bless you. Well, thank you. Yeah. Thank you, sir. I appreciate the compliments and the thoughts. And like I say, it's always enjoyable to get a conversation with somebody that, you know, like the next time we got to make sure we do it in person. We just didn't have enough time.

It just ran into, you know, like, it's like, it was a busy couple days out in Kelowna. So I'm happy we got to do it. And like I said to the group there. I think there is something to be said about trying to bring the group of you out here because I don't think, you know, when I came home, I mentioned your name and some people are, oh yeah, I know who that is, but there's a lot of people like, who? And, and Charles Hoff has been through here before, but there was others. And certainly hearing them speak is something that I think the different provinces could offer the other provinces because then you could see what they're seeing and hearing and kind of share. resources, if you would. Yeah, yeah.

Now there's beautiful souls and we want to spend as much time with them as we can and share the wisdom. Well, thanks again, Ted, and I appreciate you hopping on. Thanks, Sean. Thanks for inviting me. Okay, folks, that was Ted Coons.

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