Shaun Newman Podcast - #513 - Sheldon Yakiwchuk
Episode Date: October 12, 2023He is known for his updates on the Alberta covid statistics, he has a popular substack "Yakk Stack" and is in the process of publishing his first book. Let me know what you think. Tex...t me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/ShaunNewmanPodcast
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He's been analyzing the COVID statistics since the beginning.
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And he's now a new author.
I'm talking about Sheldon Yackettruck.
So buckle up. Here we go.
Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.
Sam, joined by Sheldon Yakutruck.
Yack stack.
Yack stack.
Pull that mic right in you.
Is that better?
You'll hear it. Yeah, it's better.
There we go.
Well, thanks for making the trip up.
You know, I got introduced to you.
I mean, that had to have been, what, a year ago now?
Because, I mean, this March is when everybody met in Eminton.
That's what you and Danny Hosak and Andy Lee got talking about when we're in Eminton.
we had the SMP Presents Legacy Medium,
and of course Chris Sims was on stage,
and Wayne Peters, and Byron Christopher,
and the list goes on.
I mean, kick cars, and, you know,
like there was an interesting, eclectic group of people there,
and so, you know, all these people kind of mangled together,
and to get you down here in studio,
I was just saying to you before we started,
I want to try and get everybody into the studio
because it's just way better.
Now, being in Lloyd Minster makes it a little more difficult,
but as you've seen, not the end of the world.
No.
I mean, had it to have snowed today, but another consideration.
But for the most part, yeah, now it was a great drive and five hours and I was here.
The most Canadian thing to say is it's just five hours.
No, not a big deal, you know?
I was joking.
The other thing is he shows up in a minivan, and I'm like, a minivan.
Interesting.
I did not see Sheldon pulling up in a minivan in a minivan in the, you know, how the day would play out.
You've been a minivan guy for a while, have you?
Yeah.
I've probably had more minivans than I've had any other vehicle.
So like I was explaining, I've got my car in the shop right now.
The minivan I bought for work, but it's great on gas and roomy and warm and comfy.
And I bought it for a couple of different reasons.
I mean, one, again, for work, but two is just so I can have a vehicle to tow the grandkids around.
So I'm still in that stage.
And it's funny.
You know, I always said I never wanted a minivan.
I think it was like a pride thing.
They have minivans.
They're not that cool.
Funny thing is, is when the wife and I got married,
we drove a minivan back.
My wife's from the States.
We got married in Minnesota.
And we had to get back to,
we flew at Eminton for her honeymoon,
like three days after something.
So we rented a minivan and loaded it with all of our gifts and everything.
And I couldn't get over how much stories in the bloody thing.
Like,
just you can just,
there's a reason why you can stick a full family in there and still have space, right?
And so we hammered.
And then the thing had balls.
Like I was like, man,
this thing can haul.
And it's saying that, we still don't have a minivan, but certainly I've found a new appreciation for it.
You know, that's nine years ago now, that we got married, and I drove my first and only minivan.
I don't think I've ever been in one since.
But certainly, yeah, the minivan, there's a lot of application for that.
Yeah.
And again, you know, the car I was driving was premium fuel, which means, you know, at the time when I started my new position.
It was two bucks a liter for gas.
And it was like, well, this is kind of tough to take.
You know, I do get mileage for driving and whatnot.
But, yeah, it definitely wasn't making up two bucks a liter on the mileage side of things.
So, yeah, just getting back into a regular fuel was a benefit and, you know, the storage space and everything else.
They're low maintenance, cost effective.
And, you know, like I said.
And, yeah, you can load up.
You know, one of our first minivans, we loaded up with, you know,
camping supplies to go out with, you know, friends and stuff. And this, I mean, this goes back like,
you know, 25 years. And, uh, yeah, we had everything. And I mean, we're, you know, back in the day
camping, glamping, uh, was us with, you know, like the portable power pack and, you know,
a small TV and a DVD player so that the kids could watch something in the tent. Everybody had
inflatable mattresses. I mean, we were, we were all out, but we had that thing loaded to the,
to the, to the, how many kids do you have? I've just got the two, two boys. Two boys. And how old are
they now? 30 and 28. 30 and 28. 38. 31 and 28, sorry. What was your, what's been your
favorite stage? You know, I was just talking to a mom who has a 13 and a 16 year old. I was
oh, how's that? Nobody prepared you for this stage. Mike, well, did anyone prepare you for any stage?
No. I just, I got young kids. You got adults now. Yeah, adults and grandkids. So the grandkids are
definitely, you know, one of the favorite stages. But, you know, we, we grew up in the
same neighborhood as my wife did. So, you know, my kids are still both in the same area.
And now my grandchildren are going to play school and school where my kids went to. So we got to
know a lot of the kids. That's got to be a cool feeling, eh? It is. It is. Because there's still,
you know, they were still one of the music teachers at the play school that my son went to that
my grandchildren got to know. And that was his play school teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean,
that was pretty cool. Um, what a wild thing for a teacher, you know, like, I think back to like,
grew up going to home on school, which is just where, you know, from where we sit
about 20 minutes of Northeast of Lloyd.
And there was a teacher there that had all five of the Newman siblings come rolling through.
And just to see the different general, or the different kids go through a single family,
but then to think if you stick in that career long enough, you could get their kids,
and you could probably see, oh, that's a little Sean or that's a little Sheldon.
Like, I just, you know, because you look at what kids do, and I wish you had a time, you know,
like a way back machine or something.
So you could see yourself versus your kid at that age and how you acted the same.
But I have so many people come up to me and be like,
you did the exact same thing when you were at that age.
And you think as a teacher you get to know that pretty intimately, right?
Like they're in your classroom and to have that longevity of a career
and to see that, you know, the circle of life almost to come back through.
But just the next iteration, you know, walk through your doors would be a wild experience,
I would think.
And yeah, I'd say a certain portion of that, but the three generations of us are very distinctly different.
I mean, I'm an ex-gen.
My kids are millennium, are millennials, and the grandchildren are Zed.
Sure, sure.
And the changes, the transitions that we've gone through and, you know, just what's available.
I mean, you know, we grew up playing with a proverbial stick and attire, right?
My kids were the first children in their school with cell phones.
You know, I had a thing going with Rogers where I was buying out of the D.C. and reselling.
cell phones and you know so I'd get all this stuff in from Rogers and and my kids were the
first ones loaded up with cell phones and you know now in you know almost play school well I'm
gonna say even before that I had my my granddaughters into iPads for their second birthdays
so I mean do you do I'm the other I guess I'm the other way because I think if all kids
had to play with it was a proverbial stick they would then
And they do.
They find games to play with, like,
and I've,
we've tried keeping our kids not away from technology.
I think that's impossible in today's world
or certainly close to it.
It doesn't mean you can't try.
But as far as having a phone or a tablet they could use all the time,
you're not worried about that?
Well, I mean, because they're girls
and because they're a little rough,
they don't really have the iPads anymore.
So it's not as big of a concern.
But, you know, the TV watching
and, you know, for my kids specifically, when they were growing up, I thought them having a computer was going to be an integral portion of their life.
I just kind of seen the way things were trending.
You know, and, you know, when I grew up, you know, we had like a TRS 80 and we had the bulletin boards where you could like dial into and, you know, it was all still like, you know, green text on a black screen.
But when I seen the transition of where we were kind of heading with computers, I wanted my kids to be into that era.
I wanted them to be familiar enough that it wasn't going to limit them.
And it's the same thing with my granddaughters.
Now, I'd taken a year off of work when my oldest boy's wife finished her maternity leave.
So I actually had my granddaughter from the age of one to the age of two.
And, you know, when we were growing up with our children, we were young.
You know, I was a parent at 19.
So I, you know, my wife wanted to be a stay-at-home mom.
I had to work hard and long, and I missed my children growing up.
So when the opportunity arose where I could actually be with my granddaughter for a year,
I thought, I'm taking it.
And I never gained as much of appreciation for a stay-at-home parents,
whether it's a mother or father, as I did in that time.
But at the same time, I also appreciated the benefits that the Internet could actually offer.
So, I mean, there were so many things that, you know, I just never really thought of.
And how do you occupy an infant?
for, you know, that eight hours a day.
And I struggled through a lot of it.
But then, you know, I found like there was a lot of educational videos and stuff.
So I'd started teaching her Spanish, started teaching her sign language.
You know, she was an incredibly shy little girl, an only child at the time.
And, you know, we formed this amazing bond.
But whenever we would go into some place, you know, she would get really shy and wouldn't be able to talk around other people.
So what was neat is that, you know, if she was thirsty, she could still communicate with.
me through sign language without having to really kind of put herself out there in front of other
people. And, you know, we kind of practice this back and forth. Now, it's a lost gift to her right
now, but at the time it was really beneficial. You know, just teaching her some of the numbers and
some of the colors in Spanish, just teaching her, you know, what blue is in English and then what
blue is in Spanish. And I just thought, you know, if she's got that extra handle on, you know,
at a year and a half, you know, this is going to help her out if she's going on. She's going
up. So when she turned two and we got her an iPad, it was something that she could continue on
with the same sort of education. I mean, the YouTube stuff that she watches now is certainly nothing
like what, uh, what we kind of focused on when she was growing up. But it has, um, it has still has
a place, uh, for her in that it teaches her some creativity. And some of the stuff that she watches is
around, you know, like coloring and art. And it shows her how to draw different things, you know,
along with the other goofy crap that she watches, you know, the whatever, I don't, I don't
even though. I see some of it. It drives me crazy. We've always got it on the background. It's
kind of like the little babysitter. And it's not that we, you know, want to have them pushed off to
the side. But, you know, we're getting together with the kids and stuff. You know, it's, it's adult
time. And, you know, we, we pay attention to them. But, you know, sometimes when you're cooking or
cleaning or getting things ready to have something that occupies them, if it's cold outside,
or if it's raining, is still a benefit. So there's, there's a lot more to it. And it really
depends. It's like every, every tool that you have. It's, it's all in what you,
what you're able to do with the tool, how you develop it,
how you make it work for you specifically.
It's just kind of how I see it.
It's, hey, my hat's off to you.
Because I think recognizing the opportunity to stay at home with a kid at that young age,
there'd be a lot of people that don't jump on the opportunity.
There's a lot to do.
When we had her first, I took two months of paternity leave
and got to spend that with my oldest.
And I wish, you know, I don't know if I could have done it with all of them, but certainly
opens your eyes to a lot of things.
Oh, it absolutely does.
And that's super cool to like look back on because obviously I got to, I got to do it.
And I know more and more men who get to do it.
And it's cool to hear that you jumped on the opportunity.
And when you explain technology that way, you forget, you know, and sometimes like I can
forget like how useful it can be you know if if guided in the right way i uh you know we got we
got the c r tc right now looking at the the big boys of of tech and and trying to bring them in line
and and you know all i can think of is 1984 and how long until we're there whether it's six
months or whether it's 60 years the the the direction has been set set where we know where we get to
We just look at mainstream media and broadcasting standards and everything else.
And you go, that's where we're heading with podcasts and everything else.
And so I guess at times I can look a little bit dark on the world.
And yet, I think how many people have graced not only the studio or the podcast
that have come through my life because of, you know, kind of the direction they've set
and the voices that have come because of that.
The technology alone.
And even the opportunity that was afforded by COVID, you know, when I was, like before COVID hit,
a lot of the meetings that we did were like these, you know, you'd call into a call bridge.
And, you know, even still the occupation I'm in right now, we still do a Friday meeting every
Friday through a call bridge.
So you don't actually see the people.
But when you're not seeing the people, and I do appreciate the Zoom and I appreciate like
the podcast type of things, is actually seeing the facial expressions because so much gets lost
when you're not looking at somebody or looking them in the eyes or seeing what their actual
face is saying or their body language is saying versus what you're just hearing.
And I think there's a big breakdown in communication that can happen just over the phone in the same way that you can't read somebody's emotions or, you know, emote through just specifically the text that they're writing.
Sheldon's going, what is he doing?
I mean, I forgot to close the door.
Keep it out the riff, raff.
It's funny.
I bring them all the way here and then I leave the door a crap person.
Anyways, life of a podcaster, folks.
Yeah.
So, I mean, like, yeah, I mean, that's the one great thing about, you know, having the ability in it, and only five hours to come and actually sit and have a conversation versus it being a conversation over Zoom.
To me, I mean, I couldn't turn up the opportunity.
I'm literally taking my holidays in July this week because I'd forgotten to take them in July.
So I had the first week of July scheduled off, booked off, and I forgot to take it.
So I was doing my expenses mid-July, and I was like, oh, man.
man, I think I'm supposed to have a holiday.
So I look back through, you know, the days that I'd submitted to her off.
And I was like, well, miss those.
So I was too busy in July and August.
Think about that, folks.
He missed holidays.
How do you do that?
Most people have their holidays like, you know, there's where it is.
And I'm going to go as hard as I can do.
And then I get on holiday.
Like, think of how many people, like, think of how many people cannot wait to get out of work to go on their holidays.
There's no way they admit.
That's a foreign thing to even think about.
The only way I put it is, and I don't know, maybe you do, maybe you're just so busy.
I'm just, I'm curious if you love your job that much.
I have no idea.
But where I sit, I kind of forget that it's a long weekends all the time.
My wife gets really mad at me because I got a podcast scheduled for, you know, I almost
had one schedule for Monday of the long weekend.
And then also I'm like, oh, that's a long weekend.
Like long weekend doesn't even factor in my brain anymore.
Because if I personally where I sit, if I want to take a week off, don't get me wrong.
I got to work extremely hard to take the week off because I'm not going to, for the listener,
and you know, I don't want to not have something come out because we've built a relationship
and I've, and I don't, and until I go, I'm taking this time and I let them know, I want something
to come out. So I just got to work extra hard and then I take my time. But like, right now,
I never look at a long, like I need a long weekend. I don't, I enjoy my family being at home and
I overlook that they have time off and they're like, well, we're at home. I'm like, ah, crap, right.
and I got to actually put this big thing in my calendar where it's like day off.
Otherwise, I go and I just schedule and I just keep going because I enjoy this way too much.
You got to tell me your side of that, though.
Well, yeah, so again, you know, being young, you know, and poor.
I mean, I was without, you know, secondary education.
I went to the University of Calgary for, you know, a short period of time.
But it wasn't for me.
I didn't know what I wanted to focus on.
I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
So, you know, I'd kind of hopped into the business world and I was running two businesses.
And for me, running two businesses was seven days a week.
So, you know, I ran steady.
And again, that's why, you know, when I had the opportunity to take some time off and to be with my granddaughter,
because I had missed that much of my children's life, I missed a lot of the firsts.
I mean, I was around for them, but I wasn't really around.
You weren't a part of them.
I wasn't a part of them.
And, yeah.
So I mean, when you're doing that, there's no holidays.
You see some of the big ones like, you know, Thanksgiving was always one, Christmas was always one, Easter's always one.
So you see some of that stuff.
But like there's, there's so many holidays right now.
It's like, I don't even know what we're taking this day off for.
Is this really a thing?
And, you know, you kind of get into that pattern and that flow and then it's, it's hard to shut down.
So I found that even, you know, when I was running two businesses and when I got them up to the point where I could be, you know, actually leave the city for a week, it would still.
take me three to four days just to slow down because you're just in that pattern. And, you know,
I wake up at four o'clock and it doesn't matter if I go to bed at 10 o'clock or if I go to bed at 2 o'clock,
I'm up at 4. And that's just the pattern that I've kind of come to live with. When it comes to
business, I mean, you know, we're, we have to book our, you know, I'll be booking my holidays for
next year, maybe by January. And in January, I don't know what the, what the year's going to look
like, what my schedule's going to look like, what my, you know, what my wife or my kids or the
grandkids or whatever, anybody's going to be doing. But I still have to log or register the time.
So that's basically what I did for this year is I'd, you know, set out weeks and I thought I would
be taking time. And from there, I, you know, I never put them on my calendar because I thought,
well, I'll adjust these as they go. But I just got so busy that I just forgot to take them.
And, you know, even when I wanted the downtime in the summer, never took it. I mean, it's, it's
October now. We were outside. It's cold. It's rainy.
Yeah, it's not the greatest time.
A week around, you know, the 4th of July or, you know, Canada Day into the, you know, the Independence Day for the United States, that was way nicer.
That was, you know, that was golf weather.
That was hang out in the backyard and drink beer, do nothing weather.
Now it's like cold and raked to leave weather.
Drive to Lloyd Minster to do a podcast weather.
Yeah, so, yeah.
What did you get to on your holiday?
Lloyd.
What?
Where are you going?
Lloyd Minster.
You're going to do what now?
Lloyd Minster, what are you going to do there?
Podcast.
Yeah, a bunch of my business associates.
Yeah, where are you headed for your holiday?
Lloyd.
What?
Lloyd.
Where's that?
You know, on the Saskatchewan, Alberta.
Wait, Lloyd Minster?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
What are you doing there?
I don't even want to talk about it, man.
Well, one of the things I don't, uh, we're working on some ideas for, uh, 2024.
I guess I shouldn't, I should preface this by saying that this is not come to fruition,
but I'm hopefully building some things in 2024,
that the next time you say that,
you'll be like, this is why I'm coming to Lloyd,
and you'll be pretty pumped about it.
To sit in a 12 by 12 room, don't get me wrong,
I like to think I've made something of, you know, the SMP
and certainly the audience that we have grown
and molded over the course of, you know,
the last, it's closing in five years,
is certainly an experience in itself.
But hopefully by the next time you're here,
hoping there is a next time,
you'll be like, wow, this is something else.
But I can't, I can only tease because until it becomes something, it's just another
pipe dream and the series of pipe dreams and my brain never stops.
Well, that's it.
And I mean, you know, when I got into doing what I do around the COVID stuff and even
into the political side of things, you know, I was posting some stuff and I thought, you know,
this is going to be over a year and I'll just be able to get back to a regular life and family
and doing what I want to do.
And now this has taken.
over you know I started off on LinkedIn and then hopped on Twitter because
LinkedIn kept pulling my content off and I thought well I better get on Twitter so I have
an alternate source and then I thought you know and the only way that I'm actually going to be
able to preserve any of my content is if I open up a substack so here I am you know a couple
years later I'm over 500 substacks deep like like you over 500 shows and I keep thinking
like when is this going to end I mean there's a lot of people that are looking forward
to, yeah, you know, what am I going to do?
How am I going to progress?
And I'm looking at it as to, hey, man, I didn't want to, I didn't want in for this log.
But now, you know, I've got a book that I'm going to be publishing, hopefully by this next weekend.
And I've got a couple more that are in the works.
And, you know, it's just, it keeps going and going and going and going.
And the lunacy, the direction that things have gone from, you know, censoring content on the Internet
to everything else we're seeing coming out of the liberal coalition government.
I don't know that I'll ever be done.
There's, there's just so much that I can take and walk into from, you know,
what we'd seen throughout the, the COVID years and how they're extending that lunacy
into the Canadian way of life.
And it's hard to not talk about it.
You know, I know I have to kind of distance myself inside of, you know, certain business
circles or inside of certain meetings.
It's like, okay, this is where we leave, you know, you always leave your politics, opinion.
and religion at the door.
So you walk in.
But, and that was fine throughout the COVID time.
Nobody wanted to talk about COVID, you know.
Everybody had been so inundated with, with information.
Everybody was tired of the conversation.
So, you know, it's pretty easy to do that.
But now it doesn't matter where you go, man.
Somebody's always talking about, oh, what did Trudeau do now?
And it's, you know, it's like, well, you got an interesting take on it,
but you're not actually seeing the whole picture.
And I mean, I think a big portion of what we've seen was in the million person March a couple of weeks ago.
In that, you know, people seen what they'd seen, you know, on TV or maybe they heard about it.
But nobody really knew what was going on unless they were actually looped into, you know, what are we actually seeing?
And why are these parents fighting?
And it was all conflated by the liberals to it being anti-trans or anti-LGBQ.
And, you know, you sit down and try and explain.
somebody no it's it's not a far right movement it's not an anything movement it's a
parents wanting to be able to maintain their parental rights and to be informed
about their their children inside of schools so you know the the whole protest
counter protest thing um was kind of a wash in a lot of people's eyes it was a victory for
for both sides and and that's what i was afraid of it coming down to is you know they feel like they
won, we feel like we won, but at the end of the day, who really won? I mean, it's the,
it's only the first of the battles that's going to have to take place in order to
make sure that, you know, we're, we're still out in our children. And for me,
it's for in our grandchildren's lives. It's important for me to see what my grandchildren are
learning about. I want to see what's, you know, the, the figures that are going to be,
the ideas, the information that's going to be guiding them throughout their lives.
To me, that's important. It's important for parents.
But the biggest problem that we have right now is everybody's so busy.
Nobody's got any money, which means they're working the extra hours.
They're putting in the extra time.
They're doing everything that they can.
And in addition to that, and I'm, you know, I'm sure as a parent, you're doing the same thing.
There's soccer.
There's hockey.
There's dance.
There's gymnastics.
Unine hockey just started up for the oldest.
Yeah.
So, I mean, when do you have time, unless you're specifically in something like this or doing what I do?
when do you have time and sit and focus on, you know, what they're doing in school or what's happening in the world?
When your life gets affected?
When your life gets affected.
And so I think what we're seeing is so much apathy inside of people.
I'm too busy to even pay attention to know what's going on.
And nobody does know what's going on.
And, I mean, if you take, like, even what the NDPs doing through JagMeet Singh, you know, he's distance himself or he's trying to distance himself from the coalition that he's joined up with Trudeau and the Liberals.
And I believe it's actually working because nobody's actually paying attention to what's going on inside of the House of Commons.
So when you look at the votes, the voting pattern, you can see that, you know, conservatives and maybe the block on one side of the equation, maybe the block.
But then it's always liberals and the NDP on the other side.
So they run the government through a, you know, minority placement with the liberals.
But Jagmeet still, you know, he'll call down the conservatives every bit he'll call down Trudeau because he's trying to distance himself, trying to save his own.
but inside of the political arena.
But at the same time, you know, nobody really sees what's going on.
And, you know, so that's the little corners that we catch, little corners of the internet that
I'm in, I try to, you know, try to bring out as much of this as possible so that people have an
understanding is what's going on.
And then you try and take, you know, full scripted content and try and throw it into, you know,
180 character tweet because that's what people have time to absorb.
You know, nobody's got time to sit down to a three-hour Rogan podcast.
I mean, it's great.
I don't.
You know, and I get content thrown at me rapidly.
I mean, I've got over, what, 40,000 emails in my inbox right now unchecked.
Because I just don't have time to even do that.
I work my full-time job.
I've got my, you know, my little thing that I do here.
And then it's family time.
To go into any deeper than where I'm actually at is tough.
I see a lot of it.
I can kind of get a pulse on it.
But, you know, when I look at Joe Q neighbor and I see what they're doing with their family and, you know, they don't have the same concerns and the same passion that I do because they're not in the same arenas that I'm in.
And I think that's where we, you know, you say it, yeah, sure, it affects people when, or they pay attention when it affects them.
Well, it's affected them in their gas.
It's affected them on the energy inside of their home, on their groceries, on their mortgage payments.
They're affected.
Well, what's that doing for them?
Who are they blaming?
And I mean, you know, inside of the country right now,
especially inside of Alberta,
we have a conservative party that's running the province, Daniel Smith.
And I support Daniel Smith.
But then a larger portion of what we're seeing for the issues inside of the country
are based on liberal decisions.
So, but who's really taking the flack on this?
Inside of the province, we've seen on the last provincial election
how, what, 11 seats got changed from conservative to NDP.
There was a nine month long smear campaign, you know, fear and smear put out by the NDP.
And it turned a lot of seats because a lot of people are struggling and a lot of people have concerns about their health care.
Health care is crap across the country.
But we don't see outside of our communities.
So, you know, if my health care is crap, I'm going to blame it on the people that are running my constituency, the people that are running my city, the people that are running my province.
I'm not going to look at the big federal picture.
I'm not going to look at the, you know,
how many people are migrating into the province per day to realize that,
yeah, this is the reason that I can't get a doctor.
I'm only going to see it as I can't get a doctor.
I'm pissed off.
Somebody's to blame.
Who's that somebody?
Well, right now it's Smith, right?
Nobody's looking at, you know, the fact that we've got,
what, an extra three million people?
Is that where we're at over the last three years,
an extra million people per year?
and that's why, you know, what's driven up.
In Canada, or are you talking in Alberta?
In Canada. In Canada. I think in Alberta, it's like, what, an extra $150,000, something like that.
Well, I thought that, but somebody was talking to me about this.
The goal is to have 500,000 immigrants move here by 2025 per year, but that wasn't including
students and different things like that.
So I think over the last three years, it's close to 1.5 million total, isn't it?
No, over the last year, it was 1.5 million.
There was a million, no, half a million before that.
And then there's another million this year.
So I think we're actually closer to 3 million.
If I'm not sadly mistaken.
But I mean, when you look at, you know, kind of what's going on.
And I'd seen this, you know, my son was in the Canadian forces.
and he was living out in Manitoba.
Sorry, just to hop in, I don't know.
This is where Google is either right or we take it with a grain of sand, as we both know.
It says 437,000 immigrants.
Temporary immigration is the leading contributor to Canada's growth for the year 2022.
Canada welcomed 437,180 immigrants and saw a net increase of the number of non-permanent residents estimated at $607,000.
And there was a report out two weeks ago saying that the liberals basically lost track of a million people who'd overstayed their visas.
Once again, so I, this is like, we go, well, how would we know?
It's like, I actually don't know.
Actually, in saying all that, somebody's going to listen to this and be like, well, you morons, here it is and whatever.
And that's great.
They can send me a text.
Don't send Shelton an email because.
Yeah, I'm not going to look at it.
Look at the show notes and get a hold of my number.
You can shoot me a text with the actual figures.
Regardless, it's a lot of people.
I don't mean to understate it.
I was just like, but you know, is it at 1.5?
I don't know.
I thought it was, the goal is by 2025 to have 500,000 new people entering our country
every single year through the traditional means of immigration, just like bringing them in like crazy.
And you're like, but then you look at the housing where we're out with, it just, it doesn't make any sense.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Sorry.
So when you're talking about like people going, I can't get a dog.
doctor and banging on the thing.
It's like, yeah, because it's complicated.
And when you go and start to break down the complication, people's eyes glaze over because
I just want a doctor.
Yeah.
Right?
I don't want to understand the geopolitic politics of the world or how the federal government
screwing me.
I just want you to fix it.
Yeah, just want you to look at this boo-boo on my elbow.
Right.
You know, my problems are my problems.
Don't care about everything else until I'm good, right?
No, and I completely get that.
And, you know, I am kind of looped into the housing market.
So I do see what's happening inside of there.
And, you know, I know even inside of the province, it's different in Edmonton, you know, Lloyd, medicine hat than it would be in Calgary and Lethbridge.
So, I mean, there's not as big of a boom in Lethbridge as there would be in Calgary, but, you know, percentage-wise, I mean, they're growing.
We want to grow, you know, fastest-growing cities inside of the province.
But Calgary is booming mad.
And I mean, like, if you go and start looking at the homes and stuff that are available by the, you know, the, the, you know, the, the.
starter home builders.
Whether you're looking at a, you know, a condo or townhouse or a home, if you went and bought
today, you're not taking possession for 12 to 14 months.
Some of these guys, it's up to two years.
And I know you, you just had Shane Wenzelon.
No, that's a few months ago, but yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, Shane Holmes out of Calgary.
Shane Holmes out of Calgary.
So, you know, he sees what's happening inside of the marketplace and especially on the
affordable side of living. And I've been connected with Shane from, you know, way back when I was on
LinkedIn. And I kind of followed him because he's a strong conservative voice. Um, but also in just
kind of watching what he's saying about the housing trends. And I mean, it's something that we're all
seeing. And I'm not sure where exactly he fits in on that, you know, is it 12 months or is it two years.
Um, and there are some builders that have, you know, ready, ready to go houses, you know, we've
got 30 houses ready to move into. Um, but one of the posts that I'd come across on, on Shane
Wenzel is that, you know, he'd seen 10, 10 houses of his that were, that were vacant.
And, you know, so he went to his, I don't know, whoever in his company and said, why are they
vacant?
And it's basically because people couldn't take the possession of their houses by the time of
time to take possession of their houses.
So they'd, you know, socked away their cash.
They'd built up their dreams.
They walked through the colors and the carpet and the fixtures and, you know, all that stuff.
They took all that time to prepare.
They waited that long to get their home.
And by the time it came time for them to get the keys, they couldn't accept them because they couldn't afford it.
And it's only going to get worse.
And it's only going to get worse.
It's only going to get worse.
And it's, you know, that's scary.
And you know what I was saying?
Like my son, it was around Easter.
He'd actually gotten a text from his landlord.
So he'd moved back from Brandon, Manitoba, where he was,
well, what's Brandon ish, where he was living to be in the Canadian forces.
And when he was moving back, he wanted to still be in the same community.
Because, again, all the friends grew up inside of that community.
We've been there since, you know, their day one.
So we found a house that he could move into with a few friends and they could all afford it.
And it was, I don't know, it was like 12 or 1,300 bucks.
And, you know, so throughout the course of the years, you know, he started his family.
He's no longer living with his friends.
but it came a point in time where, you know, the progression of rent had gone up and, you know, they accepted that.
And then the Easter weekend, his landlord sent him a text and just said, I need you out by the end of this month.
I've got family that wants to move in.
And because he was on a year-to-year contract, it's actually legal.
They could do that.
So we went through and figured that all out.
But then I was like, okay, so we've got Easter weekend to basically find you a place to live.
But, you know, my grandson goes to school in the community.
He plays soccer inside of the community.
He's got friends inside of the community.
So we've got less than a month to find them a place to live, find him before care after care, you know, to try and keep him into the community.
And inside of the community, when we looked when my son moved back, there was 10, 12 houses that he could get.
When we looked this time, there was one.
And it was $2,400 a month.
So nearly doubleed what he'd moved into, like $5,600, over.
what he was paying now and they wanted you to have pay stubs that showed that you made three times
the rent payment per month so you had to make 7600 bucks to qualify to view the home and to me
that was like holy smokes so you know go through that that you know process and you know then try
and find other places that you know they've got to be close to a school and they got to be close to
to, you know, the before care after care programs and everything else.
Like it had turned our lives upside down.
You know, we were fortunate, got him a place.
You know, he's he's not in the exact same neighborhood, but he's, he's seven minutes away
instead of staggering distance, which is, it's tolerable.
I mean, there's Uber's now.
So, I mean, it's cool.
But, you know, it's a shame to have them out of the community.
And again, we were fortunate.
I've seen a lot of people that aren't so fortunate.
I've seen, you know, parents inside of the community on our community postings that are like,
listen, I, you know, I, I can't afford to live anywhere.
I'm a single mother.
I'm a single father.
And this is what I can afford.
Does anybody know of a basement, a garage that I can stay in?
Because I need to stay inside of the community and, and this is all I have.
So, I mean, again, where we were fortunate, others not so much.
And it, you know, it tears your heartstrings.
And I know that kind of thing has always gone on.
You know, I didn't grow up with fantastically rich parents.
And, you know, we moved around with my mom a little bit and seen some,
some of the shadier sides of Edmonton.
But at the same time, you know, it was, you know, something we were able to still get into
affordable housing or, you know, some sort of accommodations.
And right now there's no accommodations that are available.
And if they're available, they're priced out of market.
And it's, again, you.
know what we're seeing as we're progressing out of this COVID world and into the lunacy it's
led up to is is bananas is that because of a million people half a million people again it's like
the complications around finding a doctor I don't care where I can't find a doctor I don't care
what that actual number is all I know is there's a problem and I'd like to see it fixed so I mean
for guys like you and me the only way that we can fix this is by promoting the conversations we
have to have these conversations. People have to share your podcast. People have to share my
content with their friends. And it has to be brazen and has to look them and slap them in
the face and say, listen, this is important. Pay attention because things are about to get a lot
worse for you. And it's time we start doing something about it. It's time that we start at least
having these conversations. Because if we're not, I mean. Well, that's what's so important
about these conversations. You know, when you say, I don't have three hours of time to give to Joe,
I don't know. I'll be the first to say when I first started listening, you know, it's funny how things progress.
Back in 2018 was the first time I ever listened to Joe. I'd never heard of before that.
You know, I thought the fear factor guy had watched a bit of fear factor back in college.
You know, I'm like, that guy. And I listened to him like, wow, this is something.
The longer I listened to him, and certainly through COVID, I just had the realization, you know, like Joe's not saving us.
or Jordan Peterson, God love him,
isn't coming to Alberta to save us or whoever.
We got to save ourselves, right?
Canadians got to save them.
We've got to pick up her bootstraps there
or pull ourselves up with the bootstraps and get to work.
But having conversations with Canadians
is really, really, really important.
So you sharing the story of your son and the housing,
there's going to be a ton of people that need to hear.
Oh, yeah, I've been seeing that too.
You know, like there's this,
it's fun to get together with a couple of different companies
who are part of the same industry, if you would,
and here it's oil or farming.
And they start sharing stories, and you're like, oh, man,
and then you can see part of what's going on.
And one of the things where I said is like trying to get somebody
to legibly come on and talk to it so that more of us can make sense of it,
right?
Because it's kind of hidden in the trout when you've got a media that, you know,
certainly isn't playing ball.
I mean, they're playing some sport that I want nothing to do with, right?
and they're not playing by the rules anyways.
Yeah.
And so they're just, you know, like they're, oh, yeah, there's not, you man, on and on.
It's like, folks, it's bad.
And we haven't even got to, like, I don't even know if we've started the game yet from where COVID started.
Like, where we're heading towards 2030.
I mean, like, I just look at where they're trying to get us to.
And it's bad already.
And you're already seeing these heartbreak stories.
It only gets worse.
This only gets worse.
And then I don't mean to say that loud, like, oh, we got to be paralyzed in fear about how bad it is.
It's not.
It's like, that should motivate.
you to get moving.
No, that's right.
And that's where it's kind of tough to have these conversations.
You don't want to see them all standing on a corner downtown Lloyd,
holding a big, thick book, screaming the end is near.
But it is, you know, we are at that pinnacle where we have to stand on some corner.
We have to wave some information around and start screaming.
Pay attention.
The one million march for children in Lloyd was, and maybe somebody from Lloyd can tell me different,
was the largest protest that we could,
the group of us at least could think of,
so probably close to the largest time in history.
Because, I mean, one in Lloyd has anybody been out on the street corner protesting?
COVID, I mean, obviously.
Yeah.
But there was 650 to 700 people show up.
We counted, which is funny because one, the paper said 200,
and the TV said, no, the paper said 400, the TV said 200,
and we had somebody on the street corner counting,
and somewhere between 650 and 700.
You go, like, did a couple people hop in, you know,
but that's where the number says.
You're like, that's pretty good for this little community.
Like, do I want to see it reach 10,000?
Sure, but I mean, like, you know,
Eminton can only get how many people out,
and they're a million plus, right?
So you go, for a town of 30,000 people to have 700 out,
like, it's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
It feels like it's pretty good.
And you go, we're continuing to see more people
starting to pay attention and realize something is going wrong.
Conversations like this help immediately,
because I've had lots of people reach out.
Like lots of people love Joe Rogan.
Lots of people love all podcasts all over the place.
When I keep trying to tell and steer people to,
and you brought it up first,
is like, yeah, but you've got people in our own backyard
doing things about our own communities,
and we have to talk to them.
And we have to start talking to Albertans,
and I always branch it out to Canadians
because I want to get kind of a bigger,
obviously federally,
we're hampered just as big as provincially or regionally, right?
So talking to somebody from the other side
and seeing what they're doing,
and you start to piece together parts of Canada.
Is it perfect?
Not even close, but it's a start.
And in Canada right now, I don't know how much,
we have a ton of independent voices,
but I don't know if we have a unified.
Thank you.
Yeah, there's, and that's the big thing.
And I'd said that even, you know,
in the start of the COVID days when they, you know,
there was freedom protests or, you know,
all these splintered groups.
And, you know, you look at like the prosperity party and,
you know, there were so many of them.
And there's so many overlaps.
know, I got invited out to, I don't know how many of these different things.
And it was like, no, no, no, no.
And, you know, I don't have time.
And in honesty, it was like, that's really cold out, man.
I don't want to go.
It was a big portion of it.
You know, I'm, you know, I'm a big part of being active as long as it's decided my comfort levels.
But, but I mean, you know, my importance at showing up in an event, I'm sure, you know, counts as one number.
What I can actually do when I'm not in an event, I believe is a much bigger thing.
So as much as I like getting out to this and as much as I'd like getting out to a lot more of the protests and a lot more of the talks and stuff, those are great.
My, you know, my focus, my content is right here.
And I don't need to leave for that.
And I start a lot of conversations, or at least I have a lot of information that's kind of started and goes along.
So even like when Premier Smith had made it to, you know, a private function inside of Calgary and, you know, Theron Flurry was there.
and Joseph.
Borgo.
Borgo, yeah, from the group that they lead.
You know, getting out to that event was pretty cool.
And I was, you know, invited it out to that.
Corey Morgan was there.
He's pretty cool.
I got to meet him for the first time.
Love Corey Morgan.
But when I got out there, what I was amazed at is that I'd met a couple of people
that I'd met at one of Marty's outdoor events, you know.
Yeah, I've missed.
them. I've been, you know, show it to Marty because he's, they've done those outdoor kind of camp
bonfire nights and never seen, you know, guy with three young kids. It just never seems to work
into my schedule. Some, some point I feel like the stars are going to line. I'm just going to be
showing up shaking hands and getting to see, because I think that's a great idea. No, it is. And
I mean, that's the first time I got to meet Andy Lee was at it. First time I got to meet twos.
Tews had showed up to that. I got to meet a couple of the other people that knew me on, on Twitter.
it was at the time.
And I wasn't even on Twitter.
But what I actually got to me
was a lot of people
at both Marty's thing
and then at this thing
with the Premier Smith
that knew me
and that came up
and shook my hand
and thanked me for the content
and they said, you know,
it's really, really helped out
and that we actually have
some information
that we can pass on
that's not, you know,
nobody's taken away from VERS
or nobody's taking it from the UK.
Like this is actual
Canadian
provided statistics by, you know, either the province of Alberta, through Alberta Health Services
or through public health Canada, you know.
So when you take their information and show people a little bit about what's going on
and then compare it to what's actually being said, that's where it starts to make sense.
And, you know, one of the other guys that we both know, Shane Getson, MLA from...
Yeah, Lax-San-Nan.
Got to meet him in person.
I had them on to one of my town halls and then got to meet them in person when we did the March thing.
Well, you would have met him in person.
Yeah, in March, you're talking back at the event in Emmington, correct?
That's right.
You would have got to meeting them back there because all the names you're talking about.
I mean, obviously Premier Smith was not there.
And if she's listening, that was a, you know, a disappointment.
What were you doing anyway?
But he would have been there.
Shane had shown up to that as well.
He did. And yeah, so like I said, I, I'd had him on to one of my town halls. And it's amazing because, you know, when you see somebody on a Zoom call or, you know, I have my little iconic picture that I've used for advertising and stuff, most people don't recognize me when I'm out in public until I introduce myself, which is fine. You know, my wife appreciates that.
But yeah, no, it was, it was cool when we went to the March thing and, and Shane was there.
And, you know, I walked up and, you know, I just wanted to shake his hand and just say, hey, you know, thanks for everything that you're kind of doing inside of the community and whatever.
And he's like, oh, you know what? It's really good to see you. You know what we have to do is we have to get together and we have to do this.
I was like, man, not only does he know who I am, he wants to do more of this. Like, this is incredible. These are the type of people that we need leading inside of our communities. Those are the type of people that are stimulating the conversations on a level that can have and impact some change for us. We need that those sort of leaders.
inside of our community, not the leaders that are, you know, screeching about how unfair things are
for, you know, maybe somebody that they heard about once upon a time in some small community.
No, we need to unite. I mean, it's all about equality. And, you know, I've had issues with a lot of
these conversations, you know, since I was old enough to think, thinking, you know, why is one
group better than everybody else? But this is what we're calling equality. And it doesn't matter
what that group is, if it's, you know, by the color of their skin, their religion, by their
background, why is one group better, or why are we considering them so much better than everybody
else? If we want equality, shouldn't we fight for equal rights? And if, if those equal rights
aren't there, then those are the conversations that we have to have. We don't need to have
conversations over rights for people that have the same rights as everybody else already. You're
not looking for equality. You're looking to be treated special.
And that's fine.
Find somebody that loves you in the way that you love yourself.
And you have that little special corner of your lives.
As for the rest of society, we're going to move on and we're going to better things for the generations to come.
Because that's what I believe our grandparents did.
And that's what my parents did.
And that's really what I try to do inside of our communities, right?
No, man.
In the meantime, we just need more people to start to pick up the rope and start to pull.
Yeah. One of the things I'm working on for that, and it's, you know, it's in something like this is to continue the conversation. So I'm trying to work together in throwing together a forum. And I know, you know, forums have been done to death. And there's places like Twitter. But there are certain corners, again, where people can get together and have these conversations. And it's at the time that, you know, that they're available. So I look at the, you know, the comments on my substacks or the replies to my tweets and stuff. And it's, you know,
You know, they're okay, but I mean, if you blank on Twitter, I mean, you've missed, you know, 7,000 different tweets.
And if you got to my content late and you leave a comment, you may not get a reply.
So if we have, you know, in this.
So what do you want to do in a forum?
Like, because essentially you want to pull together and you, tell me if I'm right, you want to pull together a bunch of Albertans, let's say, to talk about something in Alberta, in a forum type setting?
Well, it's not just specific to Alberta.
See, I've got a large following inside of Canada.
So 50% of my base for my substack is Canada.
30% is out of the United States.
And then 20% is kind of scattered throughout the globe.
UK, Australia, New Zealand, that kind of thing.
But what we see happening, and we've seen a lot of this this year, you know, whether it was the trinity time at libraries, whether it was the fires, whether it was the lockdown measures.
We're seeing a lot of the same patterns, but they all start in one place and then it spreads.
So I want to see if we can get kind of ahead of these things so we know what to expect and when to expect it.
You know, we can see something.
You want a war board.
It's sorry, that's the Chuck Prodnick, who you know from Twitter, I assume.
Me and him, he was sitting in your chair, you know, not that long ago.
And he said, I'm like, I want to stop being so bloody reactive to everything.
Why can't we get a like.
Get ahead.
Why can't we just stare at, hey, guys, this is the big dates coming up.
We need to talk about, we need to have some experts come in,
we need to have some people come in and talk about this before we get there.
Like flu season is coming.
You know, I'm picking on flu season.
But a month ago, I could have been like, listen, guys, flu season's coming,
and they're going to start talking about bab, blah, blah, whatever.
And, you know, you can let it bother you.
You can give it zero air time.
What's the point?
Like, this is there to elicit emotion.
We know it was flu season.
They know it's flu season.
Next year's going to be the same thing, the same year after, and on and on it goes.
It's a season.
It's a season.
And we can stare at about 50 other things that are probably going on.
And when it comes to the government, we can stare at, you know, like different bills that are on the, like you could build out a warboard.
And a warboard is what Chuck and them do overseas for their tours, right?
Yeah.
These are the big thing.
Anyways, I got talking about it.
And then a guy out of calories, oh, I'll pay for the warboard.
And so we've been working on an idea for the studio to put up a war board so that we can, well, be a little more proactive than reactive to some of the things coming down and try and get to where you're informing people instead of like, there's an actual Nazi, I don't know how you get around this one, but there's an actual Nazi in parliament.
And then you talk about it for two weeks after, it's like maybe there's a way to get ahead of some of the bills that are coming out so you can get on your politicians to make them aware.
so they don't walk in and give a standing applause
and make a mockery of our entire government
when you have something like this going down.
Yeah, and see, like I'd had the conversation started about Bill C-11.
You know, the, is it C-11 or C-18?
Well, C-18 is when Wayne Peters was on stage
at the March event.
Okay, yeah.
He started telling, like, to me, I texted him to the,
whenever the news came out about the CRTC,
whenever day that was, I'm forgetting enough.
and everybody's texting me about this
and I'm going
yeah I know
yeah no
me and like Wayne had told me about this
like eight months ago
and I'm like I can't be getting
and he's like yeah like
he's already doing things
he's already
what I love about Wayne
he's deep
he's deep
and he's deep
and he's connected
and he's seeing things
happen like six months
before they do
yeah maybe maybe even further out
and he can just see like
listen they do this
and then it's going to lead to that
it's going to lead to this
And so like he already, whereas I'm kind of like, no, that can't.
I'm almost in disbelief.
Because some of this stuff is so ridiculous.
It's hard to believe it can even happen.
But again, I remember the same conversations happening like a year, year and a half ago.
And I talked to lawyer Lisa.
She's out in Toronto.
And she's like, you got to see this.
You got to see this.
You got to see this.
And it's like, you know what?
I'm, this is crazy.
You know, this is too far out there to even.
And then I see some of the blowback from Senate.
And they're saying, no, this isn't.
what we're talking about. It's nothing to be concerned about. And then I blink and it's a year
later. And here it is. And it's like, what the hell happened? Like, how did I, how did we miss this?
So there's, there's people that are looped in on, on certain topics and conversations that I just,
I don't have the time to get to, um, or I don't understand enough about the content, um,
to make it apart. Because I, you know, people, and I'm sure they, they said the same thing.
What do you think about this? I don't even know what you're talking about. Well, it's one of the,
Read this book.
Watch eight hours of video.
I've thought a lot about this, you know, because I was talking with Greg Wycliffe.
And he was talking about Billboard Chris.
And what Billboard Chris has done extremely well is he's focused on one single issue.
Yep.
And he is just relentless.
Yeah, relentless.
He just, he does not stop.
And he's got his, no, no.
And he just keeps going.
You can see where that's leading.
Yeah.
Like he's become a force to be reckoned with.
And when I look back over the journey with the podcast, when we,
hit August 2021 roughly. I said I'm not going to talk about anything but COVID until this is done.
I'm not. I'm not. And so people were very frustrated. Go back to hot. And I was just like,
I don't know where to go from here. Yeah. In saying that, where I sit now, I like a little bit of
variety for even my sanity. I just to focus in on one thing so particular. I want to talk. I want to have
Sheldon come down.
But then, you know, I also want to keep the focus.
Yeah.
But the thing is, is if you want to get to where you, you know an issue inside and out,
then you got to, but that's where for me, the war board comes back in because I'm like,
okay, this fall, they're talking about censorship of the internet.
We should have people on a month out from that to start waking everybody up to this issue
and to pay attention.
So that, you know, politicians even know, like on a first.
Friday afternoon, they're going to release a statement saying, you know, we're coming for all these big platforms.
What a shady thing to do? Back in the day, that would have worked really well, except people are starting to clue in.
Like, it gives me a hope, you know, that people are paying attention. There's certain people right now that are, like, wonderful in this country that are just dialed right in.
And those people, we need to help promote on all these independent shows so that they can, because obviously mainstream ain't doing it.
No.
It's all of us that are like, okay.
And it's taken, you know, I think next year is the first time in the podcast history, folks,
where I've written out the lineup that I'm going to have returning.
Like, somebody asked me this in the middle of COVID.
You should, like, you've gotten to where you've had like 50 different guests on.
You should start to return some of them, you know?
You have Peter McClellan.
Don't wait 100 episodes to bring Peter McClellan on.
Bring them on once a month or once every two weeks or whatever the number is.
Yeah.
And I was like, I need to talk to more people.
Like, I can't just solidify one.
But here in Canada, you know, we know, there's probably people you can say,
And there's certain people on this side that are like, I should be having them on more often because they have insight into one particular thing that people need to hear more about.
Well, and it's not just that.
And again, you know, I take this away from like the Rogan podcast or his show.
Joe Rogan experience.
Yeah, Joe Rogan experience.
He is very tuned in with his guests.
And like, I don't know what he does for prep.
But, and I don't know how long he's been at it and whatever.
I was the same thing.
I'd seen him on Fear Factor and whatever and, you know,
seeing that he moved over into the fighting circles.
Yeah, MMA.
MMA.
And now he's doing his own little thing.
But when you sit and watch him, he's like right dialed in.
And like the amount of focus and energy that he kind of throws into that, I think is pretty
incredible.
Then I'd said the same thing.
As soon as I met Drew Weatherhead.
And I know Drew's been on your show.
And I know you guys are.
Social Disorder podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Drew is like that guy.
In fact, I called him like the Joe.
Rogan of Canada. I mean, he's in the whole mixed martial arts things. He's into
jujitsu, into his health and the rest of that stuff. But when you see him get on and when
somebody's talking, and I've only seen this through Zoom, you can see the wheels are turning.
Like he's getting everything. He's picking up everything. And then he's just firing back with
like the relevant questions. And I don't mean like firing back like attacking somebody.
But he's there asking the questions that can help lead the conversation. So, you know,
somebody like that, somebody like yourself that's, you know, well rounded.
that's able to have all these conversations that's going to bring these people into a warboard
and then have these separate little breakouts. What are we doing about this? The million person
March, great. But how many people knew where to find it? How many of your specific podcast
listeners knew what was happening and why it was happening? How many were dialed into that?
And wouldn't it be great if your users could actually just go to a small corner, your little corner of
the internet and they'd be like, oh, this is what's happening and this is the day it's happening.
Because I did what I could promote it on Twitter.
I didn't write about it specifically because I am still trying to keep as much dialed into
the COVID stuff as possible.
Because every time I kind of break off of that, I either lose a segment of my readership or
I gain a different section.
And then conversations just go out of control.
Like, and everything kind of spirals for me.
So I try to keep dialed in.
Twitter, I can be a little bit more free floating because, I mean, it's, you know, it's a
wash pit.
Going to Drew Weatherhead for one quick sec.
What I would say is, um, him specifically, at of not all my guess, because certainly I have a
lot of wonderful guests, but him specifically, one of the things that, one of the things
that was noticeably perceptive, actually him and Nick von Dubbs, so the Von Dubb
podcast, one of the things I notice about those two specifically that they do is they do solo
episodes. So they have to research something, then they got to talk about it. And then they go back
and research and then they talk about it. And Drew and me have, I don't know if he realizes
or not, and I don't know if I realize they're not. We have this like healthy competition of like,
I think we do, of like, how many episodes you do in a week? Oh, you're doing five. Great. I'm
doing five too, right? And, and like, it's cool because like he's doing five episodes a week and the
difference between the two of us. So I would say, and I don't know, um, off the top of my head if he does
nine out of ten solo, but it's high.
It's not like he has a guest on all the time.
He does more solo, and I have in 500 and change now, I've done one.
So I'm the complete opposite of them.
I want to have different people on,
and I want to hear from their brain and get them on.
But what that does for him,
since the first time I had him on,
where he is podcasting out of his vehicle in the States,
running from the law because we're not going to allow you to leave the country,
and he's like, I'm done with this.
Yeah.
To now today, when you have a conversation,
You can visibly hear audibly, visibly, both hear the change in him
and how deep he is into a whole bunch of subjects.
He's written a book.
And you can just see that in talking with him.
You're like, wow, you have really improved.
And I mean, we all are improving when you're in this sphere,
but you can just like, you can see it.
It's like, and saying that, I go back to my first episode and today, it's night and day.
Part of that's comfortability with the mic.
Yeah, you're looking at this.
This is crap.
Yeah, right?
I mean, I'm a little ashamed.
to this. But Drew, you had that start point, yeah. But Drew is, he's got a wonderful mind of just
like, he's really dialed in and has to be because that's what he's doing. He's literally getting
on a mic and talking for an hour straight. And Nick von Dubbs is another one who really
impressed me. I remember, because in this chair, I have this really weird job of like, I see
Sheldon for a couple hours and then we'll go six months and maybe we see each other again.
But we have this like in-depth conversation.
Yeah.
And that's Nick and Drew on steroids.
Now we're, every six months, we're pretty much running into each other.
But in the meantime, those six months, they're interviewing or talking to an audience for an hour a day, roughly.
And you can visibly, it's like going to the gym.
I imagine it's like if you saw Sheldon today and Sheldon laughed and did whatever at the gym every single day and came back in six months,
there'd be a noticeable change.
We're like, you weren't working out?
And then by the next six months, you're like, man, you're jacked.
And by the next six months, you're like, holy crap, man, what have you been doing?
Yeah.
And honestly, I think Drew's up to, what did he just pass?
Is it 250 or is it 300 episodes now?
Like, he's tearing it up.
And I go, one of the things that gave me excitement, and I think the audience, a lot of excitement,
not the last time he was on, because the last time he was on,
he was talking with David Parker and him were on, talking about Dr. James Lindsay being in Calgary and Eminton.
it was the time before that
and he was contemplating moving back to Alberta
and one of the things we if I go all the way back
one of the things I'm like you gotta stay
you gotta fight
and the fact that he might be coming back
to do that is a good thing
because Jordan Peterson being down in Florida
and talking all the craziness in Canada is good
but I would rather have him
feet on the ground like let's get to work
and I see that with Drew because like you said
to have a guy
that you put in the same sentence as Joe Rogan of Canada.
We need that in Canada.
Absolutely.
No, absolutely.
And I agree with everything you said.
And I mean, it's like a, yeah, you know, exactly what you said.
When you look back to where you started and where this all kind of came from.
And, and yeah, touching base with, like I touch base with Drew, usually what I'm in over my head.
You know, if I'm having a town hall, it's like, you know what?
I made a huge mistake here.
I need some help.
Can you come on and just host a town hall and, you know,
I'll give you kind of lead chair and, you know,
I'll do the little introduction and we'll get you on.
And it's just because I think he does, you know,
it's just such an amazing job.
And I've seen.
So what we need to do here, apologies to interrupt,
is we need to have Drew come the next time and we could sit in here
and have a little roundtable.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
Well, why can't we?
No, no, absolutely.
I mean, all it is, from my standpoint,
don't get me wrong, act like people are going to drive
all the time, but I go like, it could be next summer. And I just go like, at the end of the day,
it's like, it's just time out of date. And then we could like, one of the things I hope to do in
2024 is I hope to have more roundtables in person, not on Zoom. I'm done with, I want to be done
with it. I want to build something where people come in and have conversations and move the needle.
And if Drew is that guy for you, it's like, well, let's put you guys in a room. Let's get across
and let's talk about some things and try and like push and pull and see what comes out of it.
And give the listener, you know, as long as the CRTC is going to allow it,
something to really move their brain or pushing the needle here in Alberta,
Western Canada, Canada, because we have been slow to the uptake.
I mean, we're pushing as hard as we can, but you look at what the cards are stacking against us.
Like this could be an ugly, ugly future here in the next six months,
let alone six years.
I don't see how we can handle another two more years of Trudeau.
and the NDP.
I can't believe they're still,
I can't believe they're still sitting there governing.
And that's what I can't believe.
But, you know, they do own the media, like you said.
Like the media is doing nothing for the common people.
It's only doing, you know, propping these guys up.
So I don't know how we can go through this for two years.
And it's not that I want to be an activist.
It's not that we want to be out at rallies.
I mean, I'll go if I have to.
But when it comes down to it,
I'm not an organizer.
I'm more of a participant in some of those things.
I didn't start this to do that.
I didn't start this to talk COVID or to talk politics or talk.
So I started it because I wanted to hear some, some cool stories.
Yeah.
And like I knew there was an underlying value set to like how you made the NHL,
hard work, maybe a little bit of luck, you know, like perseverance, all these great terms, right?
I just wanted to hear it.
Yeah.
I just wanted to soak it in.
I want another, honestly, for people and maybe if I'm being.
altruistic, maybe some kids to listen and go like, oh, that's what I need to make it to the next
thing. And maybe I could pull up from them and teach my kids and they could go and instead,
here I sit and I'm like, I don't know how fuck I got here, Sheld. I look back on the path.
I'm like, I don't know what and where this goes. I have zero clue other than I know it's needed
now more than ever. And that sounds like I'm being on a stage. I don't mean it that way.
It's just that like we're in Canada when you got Elon Musk attacking the Canadian
government and everyone going like what are you doing you got rob schneider going i'm canceling my trip to
canada yeah and on and on this goes it's like at what point do canadians start to like pull their head up and go
like something's very off here like don't get me wrong i walk out the door and it's not like i'm getting
arrested by guards no is that what it's going to take is is you know like at one point where i was
joking when i had quick dick mcdick on one point he said you know if if i ever just disappear you know
and he was talking about his comments made about the trudeau government back then well now i mean
it's like they give you so much ammunition.
Yeah.
You know, it's almost like, there's rights itself.
Yeah.
And I mean, is that what's going to take is just all of a sudden the Sean Newman's, the Sheldons, the Drew Weatherheads, the David Parker's all just end up being blackbagged and and hauled off to somewhere and that's going to wake people.
Like at that point, I don't even know if that wake it up.
Well, and even on the same token is, you know, when I'd gone through this and, you know, you're relentless on that one subject.
And it gets, it gets very deep and it gets very depressing.
And I've been attacked, you know, on a personal level, in more than one way.
And, you know, had people suggesting that they're going to be coming after my family.
And, you know, it is what it is.
But I've actually gotten to the point where it's just like, I just, I can't even look at this anymore.
Like, this is so terrible.
I don't even want to look at it anymore.
So what happens is if we don't unite, if we're not there, if you're not there, you know, driving with Drew and Drew driving you and, you know, us having these conversations,
If we fall too far out of the loop, you know, there's a possibility that we're going to lose some of the strength that we have inside of the fractions that we do have.
How many of these other little groups have just basically fallen and disappeared?
Somebody's jumped into a bottle or just turn themselves off.
They've unplugged.
I've got to get away from here.
Because I've been close.
I've been really close.
And, you know, it's just, like I said, it gets so relentless.
And people say, well, you've got to dive into this.
You've got to dive into this.
you got to dive into this.
And it's like, man, do you know how hard it is to dive into, you know,
the mortality statistics on a day-to-day basis?
I'm not wired for that, man.
I'm not wired for it.
Well, you've got to look at, you know, all the different.
And seeing the people that have been vaccine injured and, you know, having those
conversations.
And Drew's sister is one of them.
Yeah.
And I have a couple followers that, you know, they have members of their family that have
been impacted by the jabs and stuff too.
and you hear these stories and they're tragic and you know then you see more of these people posting
online and how nobody's paying attention to them and and you want to reach out and then um yeah probably what
the hardest thing on me was when when sheila died Sheila Annette lewis um i was out of town at
the time and i was working and you know um my my feeds lit up and emails and my phones lit up and emails and my phones
going crazy and it was like what's going on and you know she was kind of special um but at the same
time like i i feel like i'd personally failed her in that uh i'm gonna get all teary eyed here this
isn't going to be a great part for your show um my mom passed away in 2020 and i battled with
Alberta health services at that time um there was a lot of things that were going on that you know
I really wasn't a big fan of.
I didn't feel like she was getting the attention that she deserved.
And when we did throw pushback at Alberta Health Services,
they canceled her cancer treatment and just allowed her to die in a long-term care facility
that they'd sectioned her off on that we couldn't see her in because COVID had already started.
So when it came time and, you know, I'd met and learned a little bit about Sheila and a situation that she was in,
it was like, I want to do everything I can to kind of keep her front page and keep her centered.
And I know that she had a lot of support that was out there.
But I mean, we tried hard.
And I mean, with everything going on, you know, it's like you look away and your baby falls in the pool, you look away.
Somebody falls down the stairs.
You look away.
And when you look back, she was gone.
And for me, I was, I was fucking devastated, man.
It was like, I'd committed to doing something here.
It didn't work out.
It was tough.
So, you know, when you got to come back and, you know, you got to keep the conversation going,
it's like, what the fuck am I doing here, man?
What am I doing?
I worked this hard.
I've gotten this many people together.
We've all fought together and we lost.
And it's devastating.
It's really, for me, it's devastating.
I don't, I don't like losing.
I don't take to failure very well.
when I set my mind to commit to doing something,
whether I do it good, bad, or indifferent,
at least it's done.
On this, it was just like it was just one of those things that I fell apart on.
And then I know it wasn't me, you know, we could point the fingers in a thousand different
directions as to what happened with that situation.
But, you know, for me, it was just something that I'd, I'd taken kind of personally.
And, you know, maybe I'd just gotten too close to,
my work and, you know, her inside of the community.
But it had a big impact.
I talked to Sheila on the phone.
We're supposed to sit down probably,
I don't want to overstate it, maybe two weeks before she passed.
Because she never came on the podcast.
Certainly knew we've talked about her on the mashup,
too many times to count.
Yeah.
Talked her on the phone.
And the morning we were supposed to record,
she just called and said, like,
I just not feeling that great.
Can we just reschedule?
Oh, yeah, not a problem.
Like, in my brain, I always go, like, I have, I'm going nowhere.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm going nowhere.
I'm at your.
Right.
Like, you know, if it works today, you know, the only problem I got is, you know,
I got to reschedule you a couple weeks out is probably what I'd said at the time, you know.
And then when I got the call, you know, like, you know, it's like one of those real moments
where you're just, you kind of like out of body experience.
if you would. And the one that always sticks out to me is Carol Crossing. Carol
Crosson was on the podcast lawyer. And then she passed away to what was that last year folks,
I believe, lawyer from close to Calgary. And, you know, she was a constitutional lawyer. And she
told me in the, you know, like, I think of stupid things I used to think. And one of them
was like, you know, like, she's talking about her job and everything and the government. And
she goes, well, what do you think? I would have a, I would have a job if the government
just played by the rules all the time?
No, my job is the, because the government keeps breaking them.
And it was kind of like this, oh, right, yeah, that makes sense.
Like, I just never thought of it before.
You come back to Sheila Annette Lewis.
The thing that is really troubling to me is I've been getting texts now on and off,
and I'm sure it'll happen again, of different people who have died.
They didn't have the media coverage Sheila had.
So they're on a trend, they got taken off the list because,
they don't have it and whatever else.
And so I got in this discussion with a lady and she said, well, you know, if it ever gets
that point, why not just get the shot and just go?
Like you're going to die or, you know, and I'm like, think about that.
The conviction to be like, this is not right.
I'm not getting your shot because we already know all the stories.
We've heard them all.
Everybody knows, you know, and that's where we're at in society right now.
We're at this point where it's like everybody.
knows all the stories and yet the government won't change its tune no and bc's starting to go back
into it and health can't still still recommending the new shots see so i mean a big part of you know
what i'm writing about in my book that's you know set to come out is is chicken soup it's literally
a book about chicken soup i'm going to have an entire book about chicken soup and i'm not even
going to have a recipe.
Now, why?
Why?
And it's an excellent question.
So, you know, in the introduction, you know, it was the question that was thrown around.
And I'd seen it and I thought it was amusing.
And it's something that I haven't been able to stop asking myself is, do you remember back in
the day when we used to treat a cold with chicken soup instead of fascism?
And the answer is, yes, I grew up in those times.
I grew up in those times.
And you want to think of how far back this, this goes.
So you're familiar with the Hippocratic Oath.
Yes.
Yes, what doctors have to, you know, they have certain binding principles.
The first guest I ever had on here, Andrew Liebenberg, people could go, it was two parts.
Yep.
Because we had to make sure that we didn't release anything that was any sat.
This table was in a different spot, but he sat and shaking and he talked about the Hippocratic Oath.
Yep.
A doctor sat and shook about talking about that for fear of reprisal for talking about the Hippocratic Oath.
That was a wild, wild thing.
Anyways, yes, I know all about it.
So you're familiar with that.
So then you're also familiar with one of the statements that Hippocrity said that let food be thy medicine.
Right?
I mean, everybody heard that.
Were you also aware that his prescription for respiratory viruses was chicken soup?
No kidding.
I did not know that.
So there you go.
So when you break down the Hippocratic oath, when you break down,
when you break down.
Does it go into why?
That's what I'm doing.
See, now we have a lot more information that's available to us now than, you know,
obviously what he would have had.
But I mean, he would have had observations and going, I don't know why, the chicken soup,
something in it is really good.
There's something about the properties.
And I'm going to break it out why, but I don't want to give away too many of the secrets
inside of my book.
When you're talking about this book, do you have a date when it's getting released?
I'm shooting for next weekend, but it's, of course,
Thanksgiving. So I've got like the family obligations and you know the honey do
list and then I'm still researching on you know how to actually get this thing on to
onto or into Amazon for self-publishing. So again I'm pretty aggressive in my goals and if I
don't set a limit and because I've got this week off I'm focused on getting well I'm happy
you scheduled me into your week off then you know it was like yeah I don't totally doing this
it was like oh man there's a guy who was going to golf with and then my sister
wants me to stop on my way back to Calgary. She lives in Edmonton. She wants me to overnight.
It's like, man, I don't have time for everything, but, you know, I'll see what I can get through.
Anyways, yeah, so that's, I've got my focus kind of set on that. Now, and on the powers of observation.
So there's a large kind of movement that's even going around. And Jordan Peterson's in, in with the group, and they're the carnivores, right?
So one of the first doctors that I'd started reading up on, and my first introduction to carnivory diet, actually came from Dr. James H. Salisbury. And I'm sure have you heard of the Salisbury steak. Yes, I know who you're talking about. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, he had the same thing. I mean, he had it broken down into, you know, the, basically the amount of patties that you could have and the amount of side that you could have. And he focused specifically on horseradish and mustard as your condiments for,
for his Salisbury steak or his mince patties that he'd kind of served up.
But observationally speaking, I mean, he realized that, you know,
if we're consuming too many carbohydrates or too much sugars,
that we're turning our bodies into a big yeast pot,
which is what we now know is candida.
And what he'd also focused on was, you know, the condiments that he had,
which was mustard and horseradish, which were fermented vegetables,
which are the same things that we know now feeds the gut biome.
So through observations, 150 years ago,
James H. Salisbury knew more than what
what doctors and physicians know today on food.
I'll throw a little scripture in on the thought
because as soon as you're talking about 150 years ago,
there's a line in the Bible that says there's no new thing under the sun.
And you can go back as far as you want
and somebody will have figured out the properties of whatever
help with X or help with chicken soup for Pete's sake, right?
Yeah.
So you look at it and I'm cutting in and I'll let you get back to it.
But to me, like there's nothing new under the sun.
We have our version of it.
But people back then were dealing with people getting sick or or what have you,
whatever the ailment be.
Health or getting better or keeping healthy or child sickness.
It's all the same thing.
And, you know, even when I'd first, my first exposure to fasting was a book called the fasting
cure by Upton Sinclair.
And it goes back to around the same time as, you know, it's 150 year old, 150 years old.
And inside the book, you know, Upton talks about going kind of like a vegetarian route and,
you know, staying away from creams and that sort of thing.
And then he explains kind of the benefits about it.
And I mean, like back then, they didn't know anything about autophagy or the body healing
itself.
They kind of did.
I mean, he used a story inside of there where, you know, when a farm dog got
sick they would take and lock this dog up with just water and then appreciate you know if you read
through the book and i don't want to take any i mean it's this it's a small book it's you know probably
a little bit bigger than what i'll have on chicken soup but a little bit smaller than you know what
you can't sit down and read in a couple of evenings now when you talk about these healing properties
you know and and you look at how far we've come everything every place that we're at right now
is somebody's feeling sick what do you do you take something else you know whether it's a pill or a
supplement or whatever. And that's where I've kind of had, I've had, you know, I've kind of split my
group because everybody's like, you know, you've got to be for Ivermectin. You've got to be for Iverbectin.
You've got to be for Ivermectin. Other people are like, no, you've got to be for the jabs.
You've got to be for the jabs. You've got to be for the jabs. And I'm like, no,
you know what? Let's look at this realistically. The majority of people that survived COVID
did absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing was actually the best cure. There is zero side
effects from doing absolutely nothing. People have gotten sick throughout the, you know, their lives.
And they've survived that. Doing absolutely nothing is what's actually kept us healthy.
So you actually have to go in and break down as to, you know, what, what's our immune system?
And, you know, how is it fed? And how is chicken soup going to be beneficial?
And those are where I'm going to build in, you know, kind of really what's going on.
Well, I look forward to it. Because, you know, it's funny. We'll make sure that, uh, we'll make sure that, uh,
When you release it, you send it to me.
That way we can talk about it.
Because one of the things I hope I'm doing on here,
some days I think I'm failing miserably.
But I want to try and promote the voices specifically in Canada.
I'm not saying elsewhere, sure, but specifically, especially when it's in Alberta,
that are doing things that really align with where I've, you know, the journey's taken me.
And, you know, you come across my path.
You know, I always glaze over when I've had a repeat guest in the summer of your story.
But, you know, the first time and only time I think you've been on the podcast was with Marty Up North.
Yeah.
And we were talking data and statistics in Alberta specifically about COVID and this and that.
And you're like, holy dinah.
But I've been following your stuff.
And it just kept getting sent to me, sent to me, sent to.
I don't know, let's talk to this guy.
You know, it was the whole purpose of bringing you down here.
We haven't even talked about it.
But I get in the studio and I go, I just want to, like, let's see where this goes.
If it goes to sitting and talking statistics for two hours, I'm good with it.
At this point, if nobody, you know, like we can certainly talk about it.
I don't mean to glaze over it.
We've got plenty of time.
We've got as much time as we need.
Yeah.
But at the same time, like when it comes to your book and trying to help promote it,
or at least shed a light on like, hey, did you hear Sheldon's got a book out and this is where you go?
Like, I want nothing more than to help that succeed.
Well, and a big part of it too is, and I'm sharing this with my community right now,
is that I'm using the proceeds of the book to go towards two charities,
two types of charities that I like to support inside of the province or, you know, for what I do.
One's veterans.
So, I mean, the release in October is kind of integral if I want to have something together
put, you know, by way of a donation towards the Veterans Food Bank for Remembrance Day.
And the other one is towards children's charities.
And I've worked with a, not worked with, I've worked on a few different charity runs for the Ronald McDonald's House.
for the kids help phone, for the Make them Wish Foundation,
and just generating more income.
And I mean, throughout COVID, the kids help phone got my eye
because there was just so many more children that were isolated.
So those are the two things that I'm doing.
But as part of the book, what I've done is I've actually extended it out to my community
in that because they know what's going to be going towards veterans
is I'm allowing people to donate to the veterans and allow them to put their dedication
into my book.
So I'm dedicating my book to my community,
but I'm also allowing businesses,
you know, if they want to have their logo on the backside of the book,
it'll make you a $50, $100 donation towards the Veterans Food Bank for people.
Make a $20 donation and I'll put your dedication inside of my book so that you have a copy,
you know, should they choose to decide.
Well, and I'll challenge the listener if that sounds interesting to you.
Shoot me a text and I'll get you in touch with Sheldon, I assume,
or how do you want them to go about getting in touch with you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
know they can send me an email um you know and and then all I ask is you know just send me a copy of
a screenshot of the receipt or a you know a picture of the receipt that you get that says you made
the donation people don't typically lie about these things so I don't need there's some shape the
you know what and if they're out there they're out there but I mean it's going to be content that's
going into my book and I said you know keep it to like 180 characters so the size of a tweet
and then be like you know hey I donated 20 bucks I'm you know just a as a remember
to my grandfather, my uncle, my dad, my, whoever it is.
How's a response been on that?
It's been good because I get, I get, you know, there's, there are people from inside of my
crew that are veterans and they'd say, you know what, I give every year.
And my first run with my group was last year and that I'd sold swag and the proceeds
actually went towards.
Well, you brought some of that in March, Rachel Notley Tears, Rachel, what were your
cups you had?
Oh, yeah.
Notley Tears and probably vodka.
And probably vodka.
Yeah.
So that was the after stuff, but the stuff that I'd had, you know, I had like shirts and flasks and stuff.
And I've still got the site up.
I don't do a lot with it and I don't promote a lot of it.
But I thought instead of, you know, kind of recycling the same vibe for this year, I want to do something different.
But anyways, I'd take it.
What's the site?
What did you use?
It's square.
You used a square site.
Yeah.
Actually, my daughter-in-law had set it up for me.
And they have swag on there?
You had to buy swag and put it up on it?
No, she actually makes the swag.
So she's got like the cutters and all the rest of the stuff.
She does the cups.
I actually would use proceeds from the sales to get her the mug press.
And, you know, I want to get to the point where we get an embroidery machine and all the rest of that.
And it's just kind of like their side gig.
They've got going on.
And I said, hey, you know what?
I need some help.
If you want to do this, then, you know, let's do this.
So, you know, she kind of took the, took over on that.
So we had people both giving donations.
and buying the swag and the money went towards the,
to the Veterans Food Bank.
And that's all great.
And the reason that I don't want to do that again is because we've got a Calgary
Veterans Food Bank, Sean.
If I asked you to give $20 towards the veterans in Calgary,
what is that doing inside of your community?
Nothing.
Nothing, right?
What about for my American or Australian subscribers,
the people inside of my community?
Are they really going to send 20 bucks to veterans in Calgary if they've got veterans inside of their own cities?
Well, the lovely thing we both know is there are wonderful human beings out there?
And yes, they will.
But if they're worried about their community, you're right.
It doesn't do them any good to, well, it does them some good, but not in the impact side of their community.
No, that's it.
So, you know, instead of them sending me the money or buying something off of it, so it only goes to Calgary.
I want you to work on your community.
So, you know, if you're in BC or if you're in Manitoba or if you're in, you know, Ontario or, you know, somewhere in the States, 20 bucks to your local Veterans Food Bank.
Show me that receipt.
Send me your...
That's pretty cool, though.
Send me your dedication.
And I've done that before and it works out to be a lot better.
And, you know, I started doing this, you know, way back when the Philippines had like this big tornado thing is when I was doing a charity run.
different,
different size program.
And in the Philippines,
what they were actually doing
is people were giving clothes
or they were giving time
and they would get,
um,
they would get a,
uh,
a voucher or a,
a receipt,
uh,
you know,
a tax rebate receipt for the time or for the donations of
clothes or whatever they put in.
And to me,
I thought,
you know what,
this is fantastic.
Instead of them taking money that they don't have,
sending it to Canada,
where they don't even know anybody or maybe never,
banner have no desire to come. These people are taking it and putting it back in their community.
And that's for me. It was like, you know what, this is the right way to go. As much of, you know,
again, as much as I want to support the, the vets inside of here, you know, my, my grandfather was
from Prince Edward Island. He passed away in Edmonton. If I'm giving something in Calgary,
does it really mean the same? It does, because I live in Calgary and those are my people.
But, you know, again, I don't want to take money from the Veterans Food Bank out of Edmonton.
if I've got Edmonton subscribers, because it belongs inside of their community, and that's where I want it to go.
So if there's businesses inside of wherever, and you want to give, you know, I think I'd set a minimum $50 donation from your business to the Veterans Food Bank.
Show me that.
Send me a copy of your logo with permission to use it, and I'll put it on you on the backside of the book.
If you want your name and dedications on the inside, if you want to leave it as anonymous, if you want to leave the amount out, show me your receipt, $20.
bucks, I'll get you into the book, part of the dedications. I'm dedicating the book to my entire
community. And I'll be, this is a forever thing. So as long as the book is being sold, you know,
I've got some of the proceeds that are going to be coming to me, building for my granddaughter's futures.
But then, you know, the rest of it, 25% and 25% towards veterans, 25% towards a children's charity.
And I do a lot of research on the charities. I want to make sure that I'm giving in to a charity that
gives a lot back to to the intended user.
And inside of that, you know, when I'd seen some of the charities that are out there, I mean, they get like three to five percent.
You know, not on the children's charities.
But yeah, when you when you see three to only three to five percent of your donation, you know, you give 20 bucks.
A dollar actually goes to the intended people.
That's pretty sick.
To me, it's kind of disgusting.
But I understand that there is a lot to supporting these things and that they have to build off of them.
Some, you know, go the wrong way.
Some go the right way.
Ronald McDonald's house is one of the ones that I'd seen that actually puts a lot of money towards their communities.
So it was one of my favorite ones until they wanted to kick a family out because they weren't jabbed.
So, you know, when you look at, like, even like Tim Hortons or, you know, Canadian tire,
when you've seen, you know, people inside of a Canadian tire store wrestling unmasked people to the ground.
And it's like why I have.
a tough time supporting the communities that get to get into these types of things. If you're going to
hop into the politics or whatever, then leave me out. I don't want to be interested in it. So again,
I'm very specific to those two types of charities. And, you know, that's kind of where I got to draw
my line. And for, you know, for me this year, I had, you know, a friend that was, you know,
beat up at the stampede. And, you know, a lot of my community helped out in support of that.
When things were going wrong with Sheila, you know, I'd thrown in some cash and, you know,
and others supported me on that.
And usually, you know, I have to set a budget like everybody else.
I got to set a budget for what I can actually afford to give, you know, charities.
And I thought, you know, this is probably the best way is if I can just, you know,
use some of the writings that I have and just generate something so that I'm not always thinking,
well, what if I, or could I, you know, if I only had a couple of extra bucks to kind of
throw out into the community, would it make a difference?
It always does.
I think it always does.
When I showed up to the food bank last year, you know, I'd gotten, I think it was like
$1,400 bucks.
So I was $500 in cash is what I'd handed over to him.
And then I went to Costco and bought $900 worth of groceries.
So I had, I literally had the minivan, loaded down.
Loaded.
Loaded the minivan with food.
And I pulled up and I said, listen, I got some donations.
They're like, yeah, I just pull around, whatever.
So I pulled around and they weren't expecting it.
And, you know, so we're pulling all this.
stuff out and we're putting it on the food scale. And they're like, you, you just went out and bought all this
stuff. And I said, no, I didn't. My friends did. My community did. We all got together. And this is what we did.
So, you know, I, you know, of course, took a picture and whatever. And then I put up a little substack about it and saying,
hey, this is what we did. This is what we contributed. Yeah, this is what you're building. This is,
yeah, this is what we're doing. So I know those contributions help. And again, last year was great.
It helped a lot of people in Calgary, but it didn't help people inside of their communities.
So this year, I'm extending it out.
If you want to make the donation, make it inside of your community, the book.
Proceeds from that are going to go into the communities that I think.
For the most part, the children's foundations that I sponsor are either Canada-wide or they're international.
So those go a lot further.
That's pretty cool.
I hope the community, the group of people who listen to this, if that, you know, I'll never tell anybody what to do.
that's certainly how we got here, right?
By being like, don't tell me what to do.
That's the reason I continue to.
But, you know, there's going to be somebody that hits and they're going to be interested in.
So if they can't find you your substack or they just want to text me, just text me,
I'll hook up where you need to go and that way they can get to, get to Sheldon.
Do you want to talk about COVID stats?
Well, we should, and I really think that we should, and it's for a couple different reasons.
I mean, like, Health Canada hadn't updated their, a lot of their information up until, I think it was like last week or over to last couple of weeks.
And then it's, it's always a little bit dated for information.
But I still think, and, you know, when you have these conversations with people, there's still so much confusion about what's actually going on.
So everybody says, no, well, the vaccines worked.
Well, no, they didn't.
Well, you know, and they say, well, I have these studies.
So that's why I put together the data to actually show, you know,
know exactly kind of what happened inside of
side of Calgary. So I'm not sure if you can
pull up the information that
I did for your the... That you sent me?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and what I'll do
for the... What we should do for the person
watching is we'll add it in over the video. So I can pull it up.
The listener will have to edit it in
afterwards, but I don't see that being a giant
issue. Okay.
And even the PDF that I'd shared, like, I'm going to be doing a separate substack on this,
but I wanted to preserve the information.
So do you do, can I just, as far as the PDF, can I share that with people?
That's what I'm saying.
You can, you can share that out.
Okay.
So then people, what I'll do is there will either be a link in the show notes or text me.
Either way, if you text me with your email address, I can just send the PDF.
That's worst case scenario, but check the show notes.
And then what I'll do is I'll take all the information.
Because on the PDF, I don't have the links to sources, and I think that that's important to.
So I want to make sure people can go back and verify the information that I'm providing.
Or if they're showing somebody else, they can say, well, where did you get that?
Well, it's actually from Health Canada.
Oh, okay.
Here's the link.
So on the PDF version that I have, I don't have any of that stuff, but I'm going to be doing a substack on it.
To recap it, I'll put in all the same information, have a little bit of story, flow and go to it.
And, you know, if people just look up YAC stack, Y-A-K-K-Sack, you'll find me.
I don't think right now you can Google YAC and you come right up.
And that's it.
So one of the first things that I like to touch on is when we're looking at the deaths per year,
is not a lot of people are aware that in 2022 there was more deaths from COVID-associated
mortalities, more deaths in 2022 than there was.
in 2020 or 2021.
And everybody's like, really?
So that's why it's important because I still think that there's so many people out there that really don't realize that.
Now, 2020 looked like a very large year.
For the for the entire country, there was about 16,000 deaths, 15,898.
And then it seemingly went down to, in 2021, down to 13,759.
So it actually looked like there was a bit of,
an improvement.
But what you have to do is you have to go back and think what was happening inside of the country,
you know, in 2020.
And when you look at it, we had to look at it was Quebec specifically.
Because I don't think a lot of people remembered how bad things were inside of Quebec.
I mean, there was people leaving elderly and sick inside of long-term care communities.
They were abandoning them.
What they were also doing is they were providing end-of-life,
drugs instead of treatments to the elderly. And that's if they showed symptoms of COVID. If they were
showing symptoms of COVID, they were assumed to have had COVID. They didn't think there was anything
they could do them for them. So they gave them end of life drugs. So when I broke down what it looked like,
and this is in a pie chart, when you look at 2020 in Quebec, there was 7,964 deaths. And that worked out
to be about 46.5% of their overall mortality from 2020.
2021 and 2022. And I only did that up to 2022 because this year's not over yet.
So, you know, almost half of their mortality came from that first year.
But again, when you actually looked at what was happening inside of the province,
they weren't even testing people. They were just calling them COVID deaths.
So what I had to do is I had to go back and compare, you know, what happened in Quebec to the entire of Canada
to see if I could kind of, how am I going to break this down for people to understand it?
you know, the most.
So when, when you looked at Quebec in 2020 and you looked at the entire of Canada
for the mortality what there was, Quebec made 50.1%.
So on your next slide, if you go, you can see, yeah, 50.1%.
Now, Quebec in 2020.
Of all the COVID deaths.
Of all the COVID deaths.
All the deaths that were called COVID in 2020.
50% of those.
50% of them came out of Quebec.
Yeah.
So Quebec's got the.
about that. Right. I mean, it's, it's impossible. You can't. You know, it's, it's what they were doing and it's how they were, you know, kind of boosting up and inflating the numbers, calling everything a COVID death. And they did it, they did such a terrible job of hiding it that they actually, or they assumed that every other province was going to be as terrible at it, but they actually came up to be more deaths inside of the province than there was in the rest of Canada for 2020. That's insane.
What I did is I took the population of Quebec at the time, which was 8.4 million.
Population of Canada at the time was about 38 million.
And I broke it down into kind of a value weighted so that I could correct things to actually show where we're most likely at instead of what the numbers actually mean.
And I don't like doing that.
But as long as people have an idea of what I've done, when you show people that 50% of the, you know, the mortalities came from 8%.
or less than 20 or 22% of the population,
everybody knows what happened.
The numbers were inflated.
There was something hanky going on.
So when I did that, I evaluated based on population,
and I brought their numbers down to 1,745.
So that's the smaller blue piece of pie there.
So if you're following along and you've, you know,
for the listener, if it isn't up on the screen,
which this might be, I'll see, I'll see what Jack can do.
regardless, it's page four.
Yeah, it's page four.
So when we're looking at this, and even the news reports at the time, you know, there was a, I know, we investigated ourselves and found out we did nothing wrong investigation in Quebec inside of the healthcare system.
And they said that it was about 4,000 people that were basically executed.
They were and they were, they were the first mated people in mass quantities inside of the province.
So when I volume weighted it, that number actually worked out to be about 4,474.
Am I right?
Is the 4,000 right?
Is the 4,774 right?
Somewhere in between is where we're going to find the right answer.
But it's around there.
So moving on to that next page is I took those numbers and I recorrected, recalibrated the entire
of Canada for mortality.
So I just deducted that number off.
And then what it looks like is it looks like.
is it looks like 2020, there was 25.6% of the deaths.
2021, that number went up to 30.8% of the deaths.
And then finally for 2022, 43.6%.
So there's this slow progression.
And people are, I know people are going to say, well, you can't go and just fit the numbers in that way.
And I'm going to tell you how this makes sense is because when you go through and you break down the statistics from every one of the provinces, and you can find this all on the epidemiology from from health Canada.
When you go through and break it down, and this will be on, I believe, the next page here.
Oh, actually, once I'd done this, I wanted to put it into a couple of different perspectives.
So throughout the years, we'd looked at, you know, the different variants, alpha, of course, being the first, right?
I mean, there was a couple of other variants that kind of overlap inside of L.
But Alpha was the big one, and then Delta was the next big one.
And then Omicron.
So what do we know?
Yeah, not Omnacron.
Omicron.
Yeah.
So when we look at alpha versus-
I'm thinking omnipresent.
I'm like, fuck.
I hate these stupid.
Yeah, you know.
This topic at this point, I'm just like,
freaking burn it.
Burn the entire thing down.
Anyways.
Yeah.
But anyways, the variants were very specific to the year.
So 2020, it was the alpha variant, which we were told was the most lethal.
Delta was less lethal, but it was more transmissible.
Omicron was way more transmissible, but a lot less.
less lethal. So when you look at it, and again, you're just, you're just looking at the deaths compared to the progression of things. Alpha was the, was the least, um, least lethal. Delta was midway, but Omicron shows up to be the most lethal. The most lethal. And then when you look at it as to, uh, you know, the next page, as to what we had in place, what we understood. Now, you know, um, in 2020, you know, there was no vaccine.
we had the least amount of deaths at 25.6.
That was during the most virulent strain with no vaccines.
We had the least amount of deaths.
Once we introduced them during the Delta period, we had vaccines.
The mortality went up to 30.8%.
And then when we had both vaccines and Paxlovid,
plus two years of information on how to keep people alive with COVID,
more people died.
More people died.
So the, the, the, the, the, the perspectives are kind of.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
If what they're saying to be true is true.
Yep.
First year should have been horrendous.
And as you vaccinated the population, less people should have died.
And as the, but instead, the inverse happens.
Yeah.
The first year with no vaccines and everything being a COVID death still isn't even remotely close to where we get to.
And not in year two, which you might go, well, maybe even with the vaccines in the middle of a,
it's year three where they say it's the least virulent.
Thank you.
I was looking for the word.
And now you have, what is it?
You know, some places state 90%, now there's 80.
It doesn't matter.
A heavy majority of the population was vaccinated by that point.
Well, and that's it.
And that's why I think it's on the next page here.
And I apologize because I kind of threw this down.
So, yeah, on the next page, this is the COVID deaths specific to British Columbia.
So in 2020, they had about 18.4% of their deaths, 2021, it was 31.1%.
In 2022, and this is one of the highest vaccinated provinces inside of Canada, still today,
more than half of the deaths inside of BC happened in 2022.
I want to make sure that I'm getting this right.
Is that saying that in the province of British Columbia, in the year of 2022,
only, what is that, just shy of 5,000 people died?
Yeah, for the sum total, it's just shy of 5,000.
So what do we have there?
2473, so it's like, you know, like I can't do the math quick enough in my head,
but it's like 29, it would be just under 2950, right?
Doesn't matter.
At the end of the day, I just want to make sure that that's what the numbers are saying.
Yeah.
is that the in total in 2022, 2473 is what they're saying died from COVID.
That's right.
And probably another like close to 700 to 1,000 people died from drug overdose.
Yeah.
Roughly.
I'm just spitballing, but I'm just making sure I'm making sense of this.
Or in this 2473, there's drug overdose and they equated COVID to it.
You know what?
We don't know.
What they equated their COVID mortality to is unbeknownst to me.
But BC, which is still the most stringent, they're bringing back the masks inside of hospitals.
They're still the only province in the country that has the vaccine mandates in place for health care workers.
What they're saying is, is the vaccines worked so much that last year was that we had our worst possible.
Yeah.
And that's not even that's that's a year old data, right?
we're almost at the end of 2023.
Yeah.
And you go, what's the data going to show for this year?
That's right.
So.
That's actually the hardest thing, you know, because like right now, if you could show
2023, you might be, for all we know, it could be 5,000 up to this point.
I'm actually getting to that.
So I have kind of taken some time and broken that down.
Now, now this was, you know, I mean, to me, this looks tragic.
When you have over half of the deaths that come after Pax-Slovid, after multiple vaccinations,
after two years of learning about this, half of the deaths.
That's tragic.
If you go to the next one, this is the maritime provinces.
83.6% of their mortalities.
So 84% of the COVID-associated mortalities inside of the maritime provinces happened in 2022.
So you're saying over the course of three years, you added up all the COVID deaths and 84% of those, essentially.
happened in 2022. Correct? That's right. Prince Edward Island, one of the maritime provinces,
never had a single recorded COVID death, according to Health Canada, in 2020 or 2021,
which means 100% of their deaths came in 2022. Well, that's fucky. Yeah. And it's, again,
this isn't something that I'm extracting or this isn't, you know, anecdotal information.
No, you're taking their own stats and using it to point out like...
What you're saying is wrong.
That's right.
Vaccine saved lives.
Then why did 84% of the deaths inside of the maritime provinces come after?
People were, what, four or five?
And you're answering my question on a percentage of the vaccine.
His next slide, folks, is a map of Canada.
And the cumulative percent of population who have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
And, you know, what's the highest?
BC at 86.8?
No, that's a lie.
Yeah, so it's in the maritime provinces, they have as high as 96.1%.
But basically, between British Columbia and the maritime provinces,
they are the highest vaccinated percentage of Canadians that also show the highest
increase of mortality due to COVID.
Due to COVID.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, this has been present all along.
And what they say, you know, what we hear Health Canada saying, you know, they're safe and effective, they're whatever.
Where's the effective part?
If, excuse me, if the provinces or, you know, territories that have the highest vaccinations also have the highest mortality rates, how are you saying that these are effective?
Like, where does the effective part come in?
And I just don't get it.
What I'd done is, and also, because BC still has this information up, is, and they break it up differently.
But yeah, it's the next slide.
It's the one with the little graph there.
So Ontario has still provided the statistics on the vaccine versus unvaccinated deaths.
Now, they have corrupted the data because they consider people that only have one jab as being unvaccinated.
So when you look at this during the spike in Omicrom, what you can see is that there was absolutely no difference in the mortality.
And this is per 100,000 people for the people that have been vaccinated, boosted, and the people that have been unvaccinated.
There's statistically inside of the blue box that you see there.
They rose at the same rate.
They peaked at the same time.
And they came down at the same time.
Right.
There's statistically no difference that you can read off of there.
So when they say, well, sure, there was more vaccinated people dying because there was more vaccinated people per 100,000, it was dead on.
It was identical.
In the red box that you see there that I've sectioned off, what you can see is that the unvaccinated mortality that's followed is less, right?
It is less.
So, and this is, again, per 100,000 people.
So if you weren't vaccinated or if you'd only had the one jab, according to Public Health Ontario,
You were better off than if you were fully vaccinated or fully vaccinated with boosters.
Unvaccinated people did better.
And this goes back to, you know, basically February of 2022.
So since February of 2022, people have been just doing progressively worse if they were vaccinated.
And that's what the statistics show.
Of course, they don't put these graphs in.
They just show these charts.
And people that have graphed these out, they didn't put everything together.
So there's different age categories.
They haven't broken down.
And then there's the last segment of it that's called all.
So, you know, when you alpha sort or when you filter out everything down to the all
and you include all deaths in there, then that's exactly what it looks like.
But they want you to squint your eyes or turn your head and
we're not going to show you what the actual graph looks like.
We're going to split up the, you know, the fully vaccinated and the boosted so that you don't know to put these together and realize that, you know, more than 50% of the volume of the people that were dying was, you know, were vaccinated and boosted.
Most recently, if we flip past that, this was kind of shocking.
So this is the vaccinations.
And in the bottom left hand corner of this, you can see total population 5.7%.
And that 5.7% is the people that had gotten jabbed in the last six months.
So six months prior to the date on here was June 18th.
2023, yeah.
June 18th, 2020.
So 5.7% of the population of Canada, 2.2 million people were still getting jabbed.
That's right.
And 2.2 million people.
Now what you have to realize is that when we go back six,
months, we're in respiratory virus season. June being the sixth month. So, you know, January,
February, March are still respiratory virus seasons. So even at that point, people had stopped
biting on the same government ample. I mean, only 5.7% of the population of Canada had been
vaccinated up to that point. If you go back to the same page today, a couple of different
slides in between here.
Those must have slipped in.
If you go down to, what would this be?
Yeah, the next updated report, which is the same page.
So yeah, skip one more down.
Nope, down to down.
Yeah, right there.
So the latest update just kind of played out September 10th is they've completely
removed that box showing how many people have been vaccinated in the last six months.
Reason being is because it's actually dropped down to lower than 5.7%.
5.7%.
In fact, what I'd seen.
is there's only about 2 million jabs that have gone on in in that last
segment of time so in the last six months there's only been about 2 million
people which works out to be what half a percent well no no it'd be more than that
it'd be here let's do the math on this uh I'd still be 5% wouldn't it 2 million
if before 5.7 if it was 5.7 um 5.7% was 2.7% was 2.2% was 2.2% was 2.2%
million. Yeah, okay. So it's dropped probably another half percent. Yeah, and I think it's actually
and it might be less. It might even be lower. But what you have to realize is that inside of that,
you know, that the bivalent vaccines for the newest versions of COVID, which was B.A.4 and B.A.5,
and this is actually on the next slide, is that there's only 14.5% of the entire population that's
even taken. I'm not saying that 14.5% of the entire population.
of the population has taken the byvalence is they've only given enough of those byvalence
for at most 14 and a half percent.
Does this give you a little bit of hope with the world when you can see that no matter
how much we think majority of the population is on autopilot, when you see 5.7 percent
like that.
Yeah.
Doesn't that, you know, like think about it.
We just showed 90 percent of the population of one point.
anywhere between 80, the lowest was Alberta at 79.
Something something percent was vaccinated.
Yep.
Up to 96 percent.
Now it is at 5 percent.
That's right.
Doesn't that give you a little bit of hope of people
are starting to pay attention?
It does.
It does.
But who are the people that are still getting the vaccines?
Probably the same freaking people that protested parents being like,
I want to be in on my kids schooling.
I just want to know if they're, you know, X, Y, Z, right?
It's probably saying.
same people are like, there's nothing wrong.
Jab me 14 times.
I've been jab.
You know, like, when this.
The people that line up, but what I'm afraid of is where they're actually taking these
things.
So inside of hospitals and inside of long-term care communities.
Oh.
The people that are lining up, yes, you're right.
The virtue signalers.
They're the ones with tattoos.
They're the ones with circles still around their Twitter and LinkedIn profiles.
I got my fifth update on my whatever.
Anyway, so the new vaccine is going to be coming over.
Can you imagine?
I don't know.
Yeah, you know, I can't imagine.
I just can't imagine being like, I got my two.
Oh, now I need a booster.
Okay.
Now I need another booster.
No, you'll never, you'll never need more.
Protects.
Then you got like six boosters in you.
Yeah.
And people are still going on this.
Now, here's the thing is that the new booster that's coming out,
And I'm not sure if you're like how deep you are into the variants, but it's, it was, it was created for a variant B a, no, XBB.1.5.
That's the new variant.
Now, XB.1.5 has been around for a number of different months.
If you flip to the next slide, what you're going to see is that XBB.1.5 is now 3.5% of the actual total cases inside of Canada.
It's on a downtrend.
Now, the new jab isn't supposed to be rolling out until about the middle of this month,
which means quite conceivably there will be 0% of people that have XBB.1.5 while they're getting vaccinated for XB.1.5.
Does that make sense?
It does.
This is, and I just go, you know, you're rattling off.
It's why, it's like, I almost don't even care.
You know, like, I'm like, I, of all the things going on and around,
world right now. Don't get me wrong. It breaks my heart to know that somebody's still going down this
rabbit hole, but it gives me a lot of hope where I go back to what, you know, 96% down to 5% of the
total population. It gives me a lot of hope. And I go, like, we have big fish to fry right now.
Yeah. Giant, like, holy crap, we better get this right. Otherwise, we go down on the road.
And when I see that, I go, like, I just never going to look at Health Canada ever the same, ever again.
I don't know what it'll take to get me there,
but I don't think I can.
Teresa Tam's sitting up there,
double mask, telling me to get the next booster,
is like, this is comedy, right?
Like, she's in, like, she really put,
I mean, they're selling the same party line
they've been selling since the beginning of COVID,
and less and less people are buying it.
No, that's, that's absolutely right.
But what we have to think about is, again,
who are those people that are still getting these jabs?
Because there are still some people
that are getting their first or second series.
There are some kids that are aging from their four month to five month to six month.
Now they're six months old.
We're going to give them the new monobivalent.
That's fair.
And when you flip to the next picture, you can see how small.
So you can see like the vaccines have really fallen off since May, right?
And you know, this is kind of that six months period.
And what there is is in the smallest portion is there's three.
326 serious adverse events that have followed.
326, which is massive in relation to the number of jabs.
In total, there are the 320, where do you get the 326 from?
Is that their own reporting?
Yeah.
So they have adverse event reporting, and I think I'd shown this.
It's actually on one of the following slides, because I can kind of break this down.
Sure, sure.
So what the newest update showed was that in this box period, from the last time they updated the report, which was May, May 16th,
May 16th or 26th, up to September, you know, to current, inside of here, there was 2,291 adverse events reported.
There was 938 COVID deaths, which means we're now injuring people at twice the rate.
325 of those are serious.
So serious looks like blood clots, looks like strokes,
looks like heart damage,
looks like, you know, Drew's sister
who was paralyzed from the waist down as a mother.
You know, these are the serious adverse events
that we're actually seeing.
And for us to see twice the amount of adverse events
as we'd seen for COVID mortality
or COVID-associated mortality,
means that the lethality or the impact that this is having is greater now than it was when we'd first seen the jobs.
Kind of.
When I was, I throw something, some things around with different guys.
And, you know, on the next slide here, I'd actually showed the cumulative total, and this is directly from Health Canada.
The cumulative total, which shows 938 deaths.
Now, the following page, like Health Canada was actually studying this.
They had people inside of all the different provinces, and they were studying the adverse events.
They were studying them kind of.
They weren't like testing people or anything like that.
They were actually giving them a phone call and saying, hey, how did you feel after you got your vaccination and blah, blah, blah.
When they did that, when they were actually actively following up with people.
And on this next page, you can see that.
It says 91% of people did not develop any other health events within seven days of receiving their first dose.
91% didn't receive an adverse event.
What does that mean?
What is 91% didn't?
It means that there's about 10% that did have an adverse reaction.
Actually, 9%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So when you look at it, you think, you know, if I'm sitting in a room with 10 people,
One of them is leaving with a serious or well with an adverse reaction.
And those are, you know, those can be down to, you know, soardiness in the muscle.
Those aren't, you know, dropping dead in front of you.
But this is one of the things we said in the middle of COVID is like when you actually started talking to people, how many of them knew somebody who had died from COVID?
How many of them knew somebody who had somebody who had something go wrong with the vaccine?
Yeah.
And everyone I talked to, if you talk to them long enough, the one with the vaccine, everybody knew somebody.
Yeah.
Now, they go, well, it was my brother's best friend or whatever.
But everybody knew.
Everybody knew somebody.
And by the time COVID was, I don't know, actually done, but I mean, I just mean like that time, that world we were in, it was double digits for me.
The people that I knew that had issues go on with the vaccine.
Like, think about that.
Yeah.
Like that's and I understand folks where I sit I talk to a lot of people.
That's what I do.
That's the, that's the job.
So, you know,
So of course you're going to hear a lot of stories when you talk to a lot of people.
And I'm in the world of where I'm open to talking about it.
So where they feel like they couldn't tell anyone, they'd come tell me and I'd be like, oh, man, right?
And on and on it went.
So I understand I'm in the unique position.
But I'm saying to sit around having a, having a beverage with some person who, you know, pro or against it.
And you talk to him long enough.
And I still remember this one.
I'm like,
not pro-vaccine,
just like, why haven't you got it yet?
And then you get talking.
I'm not going to talk to him.
They're eventually just like,
you know,
it's funny you bring it up.
Like, yeah,
I had a family member who,
you know,
it wasn't to the extent of like paralyzed,
but,
you know,
whether it was Bell's palsy,
which is a pretty serious adverse event.
Yeah.
And on and on those went.
So,
yeah,
one in ten or just under that,
you look around the room, and that's the people who felt comfortable in reporting it.
No, these were actually people that had enrolled for a survey or a study on the first jab.
So they were actually getting calls from somebody inside of their province.
So health officials knew that one in ten people were having an adverse reaction.
When you heard about adverse reactions to the jabs, what did you hear?
Safe and effect of nobody's getting...
It's rare!
Yeah.
Right.
The next stat is a number of people who did not develop a new health event within seven days that prevented daily activities.
So the prevented daily activities, what that actually means is if the jab impacted your daily activities, it's a severe impact.
And they got that at 95%, which actually means 5% of people who got it.
Which means one in 20.
Got an adverse reaction that didn't allow them to go to work the next day.
That's right.
The study was only up to the first seven days.
And this is where I have Edward Dowd, you know, when I had him on and he got talking about studying the American population and, like, drawing out like not serious, serious death and the numbers he associated with it and how it was going to impact the American workforce.
Yeah.
And you went, holy crap.
This is catastrophic.
This is catastrophic.
See, now, even at looking at this and.
And I'm kind of going off of, again, like, I was throwing things around with Noah Chardier from
from Epoch News.
You know, he kind of threw this around.
He goes, you got to look at this with me, man, because like, I'm going through this and
I want to make sure that I'm seeing what I'm seeing here.
And then he goes, you can't scoop me on it.
And I was like, no, man, you know, you do everything that you're going to do on that.
And then I'll, you know, I'll go through and break it out my way.
Sure.
Because we, you know, Noah's, again, working for Epoch times.
He's very, very stringent, very strict to his rules.
And he does a, you know, an up, up, not.
And I mean, he has to be responsible to maintain his job.
For me, I don't.
I've turned off my paid subscriptions on my substack, you know, beginning of summer.
Because I thought, eh, if I'm not going to be around, why should people be paying me?
And so I just basically turned off my, my subscriptions.
I take no money.
And I can't be fired for my own substack.
So he's got to be a lot more cautious.
is. Um, so yeah, so he threw this over to me and we had a look at it. And the, the picture below,
you like, this is all from the first jab. But if you go scroll down, what you're going to
notice is that those, those values are the same for the second jab. And what we're not actually
sure of, or what I'm not actually sure of is if it's one in 10 that had a reaction and then,
uh, one in 20 of those people that had a reaction was a severe reaction. So I worked it out to be
the lowest possible case. Sure. So I said, you know,
know, if you knew 100 people, 10 of those people would have an adverse reaction. If you knew 200
people, 20 those people would have an adverse reaction, one of those people was going to be
severe. So it's more like a 1 and 200. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Okay. And, you know,
I get it. And this, again, this is where Shane gets and really warn me, he said, man, when you pull out
spreadsheets and you start talking about like charts and stuff, people, they're gone. You've lost
in the conversation. So I want to make sure that everybody's kind of with me. Now, if you go to
the next page, this is what Health Canada reports. Health Canada reports that it's a fraction of a
percent of people that had an adverse reaction. Total adverse events following immunization
reports 0.0.058 percent of all doses administered. And what did we read? 10 percent? Nine percent.
9%. Yeah. So when I actually took and calculated the number of jabs, which is 99,034,764, and I times it by 9%, so it times it by 0.9, right? What you basically get is there should be, instead of the 57,000 adverse reactions, is there's probably closer to 8.9 million adverse reactions. And that makes sense. Because you've got to think that these are as,
light as somebody just feeling tender in the muscle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nine million people that have gotten jabbed in the arm are going to feel some sort
of impact, and you can believe that.
But it goes, you know, from that severity all the way up to death.
Now, if we took that, and then we took one in 200, and we rounded that down, so we, you
know, we took the same percentage, that 5% of those people.
That means that there are 445,656 adverse events.
And how many is Health Canada reporting?
11,000.
Like we have an underreporting factor of 155 times for the vaccine,
according to a study that was done in Canada in each of the provinces.
I mean, not each of the provinces, but if you scroll down a little bit on that page,
you can see that, you know, BC Children's Health, UBC.
Alberta, University of Calgary, you know, and on and on and on and on and on and on it goes.
Yeah.
So when you're calling up these people, I mean, and this is.
is following the first jobs following the second they did another study on boosters they haven't
published the results yet but they have published a study that says that yeah you don't you don't get
immune to the vaccines though the vaccines can't even provide you immunity to future vaccines
if that makes sense say that again they said you know they originally said you the vaccine will
provide you immunity to COVID. Well, if you didn't get an adverse event on your first jab,
you may have gotten it on your second. If you didn't get on your second, you may have gotten it
on your third. In fact, each time you get another jab, your chances of getting an adverse reaction
are going up. There's 99 million jabs, only 38 million people. People say, well, if there's only
one in 99 million, it's rare. But each time you get a jab, your chances of going,
of having an adverse reaction go up,
which means the last jab that you got
didn't provide you immunity to even the next jab.
Not only did it not keep you safe from COVID,
it didn't even provide you immunity to the next jab.
So if I might, I'll throw us up, Matt, yeah,
and just make sure that I got this.
So the first one, man, yeah, the first one didn't hurt at all.
Actually, I had no redness.
It's great.
I can get the second one.
I know it won't be a big deal.
That what you're saying is,
it doesn't matter if you had an reaction.
and a zero reaction, your likelihood of having a reaction on the next one only went up.
That's right. Because there was probably something that happened in between of your first
jab and your second jab. And I didn't show this in the slides, but your likelihood of catching
COVID or being symptomatic from catching COVID was actually a lot greater. So I've used the
Alberta statistics to show how waves of vaccinations drove waves of cases, hospitalization
and mortalities. Again, it's not in these slides, but I do have the work that's kind of gone.
into that.
But so you have a, you know, something that's basically attacked your immune system.
When you get a vaccination, that's one of the things that it does is it, it triggers an immune
response. When you trigger an immune response, your immune energy isn't infinite. It's actually
a finite substance. If you've gotten your jab and then you've gotten COVID in between before
getting your next jab, you wait, you get your next jab. If you had a bad reaction to COVID,
you are absolutely going to have a bad reaction to your next jab.
So Canvas, this group from, you know, Alberta, Saskatchewan, you know, all these places,
they published a report that said exactly that.
If you had a bad reaction to COVID, you will have a bad reaction to the Japs,
which means if you had a bad reaction to Japs, you're going to have a bad reaction to COVID.
Why? Because each one of these things is depleting your immune system.
Now, if you're already sick, and on this next slide, this is kind of,
kind of where I can show this.
The people that got the most amount of jabs are the people that are, you know, 70 and older.
Why? Because they were the highest risk.
But if you look at it, they also have the lowest amount of adverse reactions.
So that's what this is showing.
So the part that I have the, you know, 70 to 80 plus, these are the people that showed basically
the lowest amount of the adverse reaction.
And I actually calculated it out.
in adverse events alone, those people only had 13% of the reported adverse events.
The people who were jabbed the most.
The people that were jabbed the most.
So the 70 plus, the people that were jabbed the most showed some total of 13% of the adverse reactions
where they make up 80% of the mortality.
So that's on the second graph right there.
You can see, well, nope, back up right there.
Yeah.
So that one shows that they're, and you can read the numbers, 22.2 from 70 to 70,
59, 57.8, you know, that's 80, right?
So the people that made up 80%, so 80% of the population that had a violent reaction to COVID,
out of them only 13% had a violent reaction to the Jabs.
Meanwhile, the studies that we have inside of Canada say if you're going to have a bad time with COVID,
you're going to have a bad time with the Jabs.
It's impossible.
So how did they fold these numbers in and where did this extra 9 million adverse events go?
it went into places like that where seniors
they're a little more reluctant to report
because they don't want to feel like they're troubling it.
But it's not just that,
is that they're also on a number of different medications
that are already masking symptoms that they're having inside of their bodies.
So blood clots in people that are taking blood thinners already,
what's the likelihood?
If you've already got heart damage, do you know if the jab has added or heart damage?
Is anybody even looking?
To me, to think that the most vaccinated percentage of the population that has the highest reaction to COVID, has the smallest reaction to the vaccine, it doesn't make sense.
So where did those extra nine million come from?
That's where it came from.
inside of those communities.
And it also came in from, if you look at the purple graph again, from zero to four,
there's actually the smallest percentage of people that have reported adverse events.
And reason being is because there's not a lot of people that gave their infants or their zero to four year olds,
the Jabs or six months to four years old.
But at the same time, what you're looking at, and again, this goes back to, you know,
when I was taking care of my granddaughter, you know, from once you turn first,
one to when she was two.
And I'm not saying that I'm an idiot or that I didn't try,
but I didn't always know what her cries meant.
I didn't know if it was a rash on her bum.
I didn't know if she had a full diaper.
I didn't know if she was hungry.
I didn't know if she was teething.
From six months to two years, let's call it all the way up to four years.
These children aren't able to communicate.
I have pain in my chest.
They just cry.
They're not able to communicate.
I have pain in my head.
They just cry.
They're not moving.
Right?
Now, there's a certain percentage of healing that their body is going to do
before they're able to even communicate
what was actually going on to begin with.
And when parents would take their kids to doctors,
would doctors know what's going on?
I mean, if you can't communicate with your parent,
what's a doctor going to see?
maybe a symptom.
And is a doctor going to extrapolate that to the vaccine?
Are they?
We don't know.
No, no.
We actually do know.
Well, I mean...
I'm not...
Take the kid out of it.
You can be a grown-ass out.
Say, I think the vaccine did this.
What is going on in Canada?
Yeah.
They're going, oh, you're absolutely right.
Yeah.
No, I'm not saying there isn't doctors out there doing that.
But we know that is not the mainstay of it.
Well, and I mean, we've all heard the anecdotal stories where, you know, I try to report my
vaccine injury.
and my doctors refused.
And, you know, we have some of that inside of our immediate circle
inside of my family as well.
So my daughter-in-law is something that I'd suspected,
and they had to get vaccinated to keep their jobs.
So, you know, my son was working with one of the railways,
so he had to get his jobs.
My daughter-in-law had to get hers
for the community environment that she was in.
So she got hers, and then she got rabdo that followed.
Rabdo is basically when your body starts consuming itself
and poisoning your kidneys with creatis.
nine. So it's terrible. It's like your body feels like it's been completely crushed and and starts
attacking itself. So she'd went into this state of rhabdo and she'd actually gone into it twice.
So now rabdo was no longer a condition. It's now become a symptom. A symptom is a symptom of
something that's greater. If you have like a bad reaction of something and then you get that reaction
twice, it's no longer that condition. It's now a symptom of a larger underlying thing. What that larger
things, not a conversation that I'm going to hold on right now. Well, no, it's just, I haven't had time to go
through and do all the research into it, but it's just like one of those things. But I've seen people,
you know, they have, you know, they have one reaction and they have another reaction. And then it
just kind of compounds from there. When you look at the last slide, I believe that I have here,
what we're going to actually see is this is the total patients hospitalized. So this is in hospital
beds and in ICU. And if you look at this last wave, if you look at, you know, 2021, 2022,
you know, they were almost nil. Now, we're in, you know, uh, 2023. Now, 22 July was a lot higher.
You know, it didn't dip down as much as this one. But look at the impact that we still have on the
hospitals following all these vaccinations from the least virulent variants of COVID.
I mean, that is the most shocking thing to me. That not only says,
is not only did the vaccine.
And for the listener, it just, it starts out as these little waves and then they get
it kind of big, but it just gets to like gigantic proportions and then never goes back to
as low as it was before.
That's what you're pointing out.
That's exactly.
Yeah.
So we're never going to return down to a baseline.
And if we look at these things, um, it's created a new baseline is what it's done.
It's, yeah, exactly.
So there's 75 to 100 times more hospitalizations this year.
than was in 2020 and 2021.
And this is after all the vaccines,
after all the boosters, after Paxlovod,
after having the benefit of three and a half years
of learning about COVID from all these global studies
and from everybody else that's gone through the pandemic,
is we now have a higher set baseline on hospitalizations.
We've done something to the population
and nobody really knows the extent of this.
I mean, we can listen to, you know, McCulloch, and we can listen to, you know, all the doctors and scientists say this, all these things and they can show us like these blood clots, but we don't really get it.
But when you look at this and you say, why don't I have a doctor?
That's why?
Why don't I?
Why can't I get into the ICU?
Why can't I get into the ER?
That's why.
Population definitely has a large portion to do with it.
the fact that we are haven't added a single bed, but we're 75% 100% or 100 times more
hospitalizations from the sniffles, the least virulent strains of, of COVID.
We can't even get back to the highest.
We can't even get back to the stages of alpha or delta.
And that's where we're at right now.
Now, in studying this, you know, people say, well, you know, that's not necessarily from the vaccinations.
Well, actually it is.
Inside of Canada, and this is kind of what I go into a little bit, inside of Canada, since February 11th, 2013, there were good pharmacoviligent or covigilant practices,
CVP practices that were put in place.
And this is where, you know, the really smart doctors got together and they said, well, we're going to have something in order for us to track if there's bad reactions to drugs.
So they came up with these in February of 2013.
They implemented them in August of 2013.
So we're exactly one decade apart.
I mean, you know, September's just passed, right?
And inside of these GVPs, when you go down and you look up something called the unusual failure and efficacy.
So an unusual fail and efficacy is when, you know, you've taken something and it's, I thought I'd turn that off.
Sorry. I was just like, well, we might as just snuff it that way. It doesn't have to.
Yeah. No, it's, it was my headset that was ringing. That's, that's my mechanic calling is probably letting me know the size of the bill has gone up again.
Anyway, so an unusual fail of your efficacy is if you take something and it doesn't work. Okay.
When they, when they looked at it in vaccines and this, I'm reading this directly from Health Canada website from these GVP practices that have been in place for years before.
but they finally put them into actual words and says one example of unusual failure and efficacy
is a previously well-stabilized condition that deteriorates when the patient changes, you know,
to a different type of prescription. Okay, and that makes sense, right? Another example of a case
that should be reported on an expedited basis is life-threatening infection where the failure
and efficacy seems to be due to the development of a newly resistant strain of bacterium
previously regarded as susceptible, which means if we take a jab and it results in a life-threatening
infection, that's considered an unusual failure in efficacy, which is also considered a
drug adverse or an adverse drug reaction, which means every one of those people that we'd
seen in that new trend by GVP standards written by a health Canada is a vaccine injury.
So over and above the 9 million that I kind of guesstimated, everybody that's actually landed
in the hospital, whether they've survived or not.
Is an adverse reaction.
It is an adverse reaction.
By their own definition.
By their own definitions, yeah.
I don't even know what to say.
You know, like at this point, I'm just like, this is why this conversation is so.
I don't know, it's not difficult, folks.
It's just like we've been beating a dead horse here for how long.
And I act like I have, but I haven't talked COVID a long time, you know, like it's just like,
I don't mean it's over and done with.
But then, you know, you go back to where we started with Sheeneland, Aunt Lewis and others,
and adverse reactions, people have been harmed that are, you know, their life has to move on
and, or not move on, but like they can't move on because they've been.
adverse reacted. It's like
we can't get anyone to even
acknowledge what the hell is going on from
a government standpoint, right? They want to just
pat each other on the back and move on and
carry on and you got BC doubling or
tripling or maybe quadrupling down at this
point and you got Teresa Tam
coming out and saying safe and effective and you're like
where is the government that's
going to dig into this and
really shed some light?
Like, holy crap. Like we got
Sheldon here
who's been doing a great job
in after hours digging into the numbers
and trying to make sense of them
and pointing out the flaws
every time the government says,
I know it's safe and effective
or these people are,
well, actually, no,
because of this and this and this,
and trying to make sense of it
when your government's just trying to bury it
as fast as they can,
they're trying to bury it
and move on and not talk about it.
And then you've got other parts of the government
saying, no, it's still safe and effective,
get your shots,
and you get it trying to being added
to the childhood vaccines,
and you've got all these crazy ideas,
and you're like, this is insane.
We are insane right now.
I don't want to talk about it, not because I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to talk about it because I feel like I beat a dead horse and nothing, things, things have changed, but certainly for the majority of the population, most of them just, this is where, you know, you come back to people just not caring.
People have just moved on.
And then when I hear all those, I'm like, oh, man.
Well, when you looked at the trajectory, excuse me, the trajectory of the mortality, 2020 being the lowest, 2021, increasing, 2022.
being the highest.
2023, we called COVID off.
When you look at the trajectory, you can see things are getting progressively
worse.
So if there was a pandemic in 2020, is there still a pandemic now?
There absolutely should be.
But everybody's kind of ignoring that and just saying, well, you know, wear a mask if you feel like it,
get a jab if you feel like it.
Why?
Because they know that none of these things are of any impact.
And the actuality, and I didn't show this, is now that only
5% of the population has been vaccinated, mortality has actually decreased.
So when we've seen as vaccines were being introduced and implemented and mortality was going up,
now that people are falling off the vaccine wagons, not taking them anymore,
mortalities are actually coming back down.
Now, there could be a couple things in play here.
One, we could have killed off all the people that could have died from this.
I mean, you know, there are a finite number of people with three mortalities that are holding on inside of long-term care facilities.
So are those people already mated out of existence?
And that's a good part of it.
It could be a part of it.
The other thing, too, is, I mean, it definitely wasn't the vaccinations that helped out because people are still being hospitalized in greater numbers now than they were, you know, for Alpha and Delta.
326 people from May to now have been injured.
2,000, over 2,200 of those people were injured by the jabs,
while 984 people died.
And we're still calling this safe and effective.
I don't like to drill into this.
And for me, it's been the same thing.
I haven't had a lot of these COVID conversations,
and I will re-hit some of the high notes on these things.
And I wanted to put this together for you so you said,
you know, we can go through the stats.
But these are the things that I wanted people to see.
these are the things that I want to stick in people's heads.
Alpha was the least virulent strain, according to the statistics.
Omicron, which we know to be the least virulent,
killed the most amount of people.
When we had no jabs, the most amount of people survived.
Now that we have the most amount of jabs in Paxlod
and two years of education on how not to kill people that have COVID,
we've seen the highest mortality rate.
Yes, you should be questioning when somebody says, go get your next shot.
I remember you're bringing back to why I reached out because I saw the Teresa Tam thing and I went,
if this even remotely tries coming back, which I think Daniel Smith would have a riot on her hands.
Well, they tried to corral her into, when are you getting your booster shot?
And she said, you know what?
I have a healthy immune system.
And that's something that I'm going to discuss with my doctor, which is a perfectly fine answer.
because nobody wants her coming out and saying shit that I say.
Because then she comes off looking like I look, like a lunatic, right?
Waving the big book in the middle of downtown Lloyd saying the end is near.
No, we want her to be on the high level.
The end is near.
And, you know, in addition to that is there is an investigation that's going on inside of the province that she called that the NDP tried to shut down when they were going through the provision.
election. So Preston Manning is supposed to be conducting this thing. It has passed, you know,
one of those, you know, one of those pivotal points in the study. And by November something,
they're supposed to have this final report put out. And I started breaking down into what some of that
looks like. And yeah, I mean, you know, I don't want to attack Smith or, you know, the new CMOH or, you know,
kind of, I want to give her her footing in this thing, but when, when that thing comes out,
I want answers.
Well, I think maybe what we should do is we should plan, you know, when you talk about
the war board, I certainly have, I forget the date, but it's November when this report's
going to come out.
And I expect it's going to be like this 800-page thing that I'm going to be like, fuck me, I've got
to try and find a way to weed through it.
But I think it's really important that whatever comes out, we take a look into and
actually discuss it because and I think it'd be interesting to have a group of people discuss it.
So maybe we'll put that on the docket Sheldon for for November or maybe the beginning, whenever,
whenever they finally drop it because to me it'll be interesting because that that should be
a look into the way the Alberta government view because by the time it gets released to the
public. Not only we'll have had his chance to review this and dig into some things which we
should not have access to, I would assume. But then the actual sitting government will have
I don't mean doctored it,
but we'll have had their eyes on it as well.
And it'll be interesting to see what information comes out of that.
And this is where I get cynical.
This isn't no hate on Smith or anyone.
But look at what government's done to this point.
I don't trust anything to this point.
No.
And I look forward to seeing what they do.
But if it isn't on the up and up,
that's going to be telling.
And on the flip side,
it is on the up and up.
And there's like giant, giant gold mine in there
of like, people need to understand this.
This came from the government.
We need to, we need to, we need to, we need to show that from high heaven as well.
Well, and that's it.
Like, even just the canvas study.
And I tripped onto this thing a couple of years ago.
And, you know, I'd seen all these independent boards and stuff that were working, you know,
either through the province or through the federal government, you know, on studying the vaccinations.
And it's only when Noah actually brought it back to me that I'd had a look.
And we realized what was going on throughout the entire course of action.
They knew that this was going.
on? How do you look at, and they do have a separate study that I didn't break down for
children on, you know, on the adverse events. This same board was doing children at the same
time. And the ages I'm not, they didn't see specific, or I didn't see specifically. But how do you
take something that you know is harming one in 10 adults and one in 200 adults as causing
them a severe adverse reaction?
look at kids that have zero risk.
And I mean, that's not zero to four, zero risk.
It's not even calculable.
And then decide that we're going to put them into the same adverse event treatment for no benefit, a hundred percent risk.
We don't know which of these 10 kids is going to be the first one that's going to have an adverse reaction.
And we don't know the severity of that adverse reaction.
How do you as a doctor, how do you, as the College of Physicians, how do you as the College of Physicians,
It's how do you as a governing board look at this and go,
fuck yeah, let's do it.
Look at Eric Payne.
And that's what Eric Payne came on here to talk about as a pediatrician, right?
Yeah.
Came on and literally was like, do not do this.
And for that, he has incurred the wrath of a lot of different things, including AHS.
Yeah.
Appreciate you coming and doing this.
And hopefully, you know, the lovely thing about no time.
timetable sitting in a studio is you lose track of of the time and I do appreciate the different minds
that walk in here. I appreciate you coming all the way, bringing some of the data, even though
you know it was almost not secondary to what we were talked about because I, like, I've really enjoyed
the conversation. That's great. But appreciate you coming and doing this and I don't know.
I look at November and I think that could be an interesting month. And whether we do it in studio or
virtual or whatever, it's probably a smart idea to circle that month to be paying attention
for what the Alberta government is going to release in the report, Preston Manning, and see
what the thoughts that come out of there.
Because regardless of what comes out of it, I think media needs to pay close attention
to make sure that it gets the limelight that it is going to deserve, I hope.
Well, the NDP wanted to crush it.
The NDP got all the media attention throughout the last election.
cycle. So whatever this thing comes out, I agree with you. It has to have some, some attention. It has to be
brought to light. I just don't know if it will. Well, that's where we got to, we got to circle it on
the board. We got to make sure that we get into it. And even if it does, are they going to call
Preston the fringe? Well, I mean, at this point, at this point, you just wear that with a badge
arner, right? I mean, like, they call us anything at this point. I'm just like, yeah, sure, whatever.
Yeah, like just, I feel like a general right now.
Instead of having the medals, I just got all these different terms stabbed on me.
Anti, anti, anti, anti.
Yeah, it's just like, whatever.
Like, if you aren't walking around with a few of those by this point, you know,
it's time to take the red pill, wake on up and come join us because, like, I mean,
you're on team whatever we are called at this point, but we got a lot of terms and
it's just like you wear it with a badge or honor, you know.
Appreciate you coming in and doing this.
And I look forward, honestly, I look forward to, I don't know when the next time is,
but the next time we get to do this
certainly hopefully in the
2024 some things have happened
and I can be a little more elaborative
on what that's about
and you'll be like
oh we're going to Lloyd
and we're going to have some fun either way.
Hey, thanks for coming all the way down here.
This was well worth the five-hour drive.
Well, I appreciate that.
