Shaun Newman Podcast - #544 - Barry Wunsch

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

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For the past 80 years, they've been an industry leader in bulk fuels, lubricants, methanol and chemicals delivering to your farm, commercial or oil field locations. For more information, visit them at Hancock Petroleum. petroleum.c.c.a. He is a Canadian prophet and consultant. He goes by the name the Canadian Hammer. I'm talking about Barry Wunch. So buckle up. Here we go. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Barry Wunch. So, sir, thanks for, I don't know, making the trip here and doing this. Sean, I tell you, it is my honor to be here. You actually have met a couple of my friends, Steve Holstrom is one, and Grant Abraham is another. And, you know, I never

heard of you until, you know, I heard kind of, you know, through those boys, you know, a little bit about you. And so I just honor you for what you do. No, I appreciate that. You know, it's funny. I was going to say, normally I have my hair comb. Today I grabbed a hat out of the back. I learned through COVID that if Sean doesn't move his body, so like I play noon hour hockey. And I get to play it, you know, anywhere in between once to, you know, it's highest three times a week. And when I'm doing that, like, you know, the body appreciates you, you know? And through COVID, I lost some of that. And for, I think everybody can understand why.

And I didn't realize how much of moving my body really means to me, you know, and being able to be active and everything else. So when you're like, I can be here at this time? I'm like, can we push it to this time right here? Because as soon as I get done, I'll race over here. No time to comb the hair. So I slapped on the old hat. from in the vehicle that rides around with me everywhere. But it's funny because Grant was in here like, I don't know, a week ago.

Okay. And he sat in that chair and he goes, you know who he said to interview? It's Barry. And I'm, okay, well, who's Barry? You know, and he's telling me a little bit about you. So whatever. He, you know, he lines it up and then he sends me your number so we can touch base. Yep.

And I go to text you, and it comes up the Canadian Hammer. And I started laughing. I'm like, really? Because I'd saved your number in my, in the phone. And for the audience, I forget who. Was it one of your kids? My son, Nolan. So his son reaches out and says,

hey, have you ever heard of the Canadian Hammer? I'm like, before he even said it, I'm like, how do you get that name? Why'd you call and ask him? All right. So I called thinking you knew who I was. No idea. And Barry answered the phone.

And I go, hey, Canadian Hammer. How's it going? He goes, good, who's this? I'm like, Sean Newman. Who's that? And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. I thought I was like kind of walking into like your son sitting beside you, like, whatever.

Yeah. So it's been an interesting journey from my side. You know, some days you're like, How on earth did I get to sitting here? So I'm looking forward to it. Tell me a little bit about Barry. That's my introduction to the audience on how on earth this happened. It happens by some days I have zero control over this thing.

And I'm interested to see where it goes. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. The Canadian Hammer, you know, is kind of a name that I picked up years ago. You know, we're actually in a meeting. Sorry, Barry, pull that mic right in India. If you're going to lean back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I'll do that. my back is a little tender today so I'll just I'll try and just assume the position but you know that that name the Canadian Amher years ago I'm talking 30 years ago we were in a meeting and you know for those that you know may be unaware you know God still speaks today and you know he speaks through you know gifts and that he gives people and sometimes through dreams and sometimes you know he'll give give words of knowledge or people will know things they shouldn't know.

So we're in this meeting and this guy calls me and he says, you're a hammer. And, uh, what, what meeting is this? So, so we're at a meeting. It's actually, uh, we're actually in a church and, uh, it's a bunch of musicians and that they're kind of working with. And, uh, this guy calls me out and he says, you're a hammer. And, uh, you know, only like a hammer picked up in the hand of a master carpenter, are you're really going to be any good. And I was in construction for lots of years. And I thought,

oh, that's interesting. You know, I'm a carpenter and kind of into that building world. So I thought it made sense. But over time, especially in the last few years, that name has become a lot different because, you know, scripturally it actually talks about is not my word like a hammer that breaks a rock to pieces. And so by the grace of God, honestly, Sean, you know, 2018, you know, January 22nd, middle of the night, three o'clock in the morning, I'm going to say the presence of God came into the bedroom. And I don't know if you've experienced that or those that are listening have ever experienced that. But honestly, I couldn't move a muscle. It was like very intense. And his love just came and just grabbed me. And he says, how bad do you want this?

And I said, oh man, if it feels like this, I want it all. and it went from there actually to the fear of the Lord and fear of God. And I mean, I don't know if anyone has ever experienced that or if you've ever experienced that. But I tell you, if I could have crawled under the carpet or under the concrete, I probably would have. And honestly, it was like I had a million volts of electricity come through my body. And he says, have I got your attention yet? And I said, oh, yes, you have. And he said, you've been living in the flesh.

you kind of been living for yourself. He said, what are you going to do about it? And I'm telling you, I ended up doing a 50-day fast where I couldn't eat. My appetite was gone. I did liquids. I, you know, I did drink and I did liquids. But Sean, during that 50 days, he did things in my heart and in me that he removed things that places that I thought I was and who I was, that were not right and brought healing into my life.

And I had a gift that started to emerge where I would walk in a room and I would know things about people I shouldn't know. Sometimes I see a word over them. And that word, you know, it was like a key into their heart. You know, sometimes I knew their history and their past just by the grace of God, opening my eyes to those secrets within them. to bring hope, to bring a key, to bring, you know, avian strategy in moving forward in things. And so that's actually really where a prophetic gift and a call into the office of a prophet

really started to accelerate. Who was Barry before 2018? Barry before 20. Because you said January, no, forgive me the date. Yeah, January 27th. Yeah, it was okay. Yeah, yeah, 2018, right? We'd spent years in construction.

You know, we owned a lumberyard. You know, we were just business. And where is this? Well, we were in red deer. Okay. Yeah, we were in red deer. And we built farm buildings and chicken barns and hotels and housing and just regular project management, some land development things. And that's kind of what we did.

And then my life changed. And, you know, like leading up to this night, are you, I don't know, I don't know, like, are you, devote? Are you just kind of picking the Bible up once in a while? Are you praying for this? Yeah, you know, I mean, we've always been believers. You know, I mean, always, well, not always. I was a real rascal when I was young. I mean, I was, you know, I was a while. When you say real rascal when you're young, what do you mean by young and what do you mean by rascal? Well, what I mean, you know, so, you know, when you're, when you're teenager and, you know, in your 20s, you know, and you're partying and you're drinking and you're carousing and

you know all of that i mean i was i was all of that and more and uh ended up on a process where you know through my brokenness finally led me to to the end of the rope where uh i was so broken i didn't know where else to go but to god and in his loving kindness and mercy uh he came and he he started to turn my wife my life around and uh you know when you grow up in in a in brokenness it takes a period of restoration, sometimes healing, deliverance to walk through your pain and walk through those things that have maybe given us a mindset

that maybe hasn't been the best for us. And so, you know, in that posture and by the grace of God and by my lovely wife who I'd met and, you know, we just did a deep dive together in surrender, you know, into that and you know we've been very blessed since yeah what does your wife think all this do you know my wife uh we cannot be doing what we're doing right now if if it wasn't for my wife uh she's watched the change and and the favor and the things that have developed over the years and so we've we've gone

that gone down this path together but it hasn't been an easy path uh you know in all honesty it's been really rough. And some of the things that we've had to endure and go through, you know, to get into our character, to get into a place where, you know, some of those motives and some of those things that can be unhealthy or stripped away. And some guys will call it, you know, the dark night of the soul or, you know, there's different analogies, right? And, you know, I think when you go through tough times and you go through a train wreck or two, it brings a deeper compassion and a deeper love and a deeper understanding of grace that we all need. Well, it's funny, I find myself curious, have lots of people who have been on the podcast

who, when they start to wake up to what's going on, right? People got, you know, there's people awakening to what's kind of going on with media or government or on and on. And I'm always kind of like, well, what was your moment? Like, what was you, what really kind of like, because I find that. curious like what what made it so that you could see what the media was doing etc when I when I see now when I see Christians I'm like so what was your moment what was your moment that you went because you know the more I talk to people

the more I realize like everybody has this moment where they they kind of went oh and was that before January of 2018 or was it was it you know like was that a cement moment of like holy dinah well you know it actually is After 18, and, you know, I went through that and, you know, God would give me dreams about Canada. He would give me, he was giving me dreams and insight into Canada and America. And on my simple little Facebook page, I would just start to share them out. And pretty soon. Do you remember what your first one was?

Oh, boy. I don't. I mean, there was kind of a slow leak that that began. and and one day I got a phone call from a friend of my, well, now he's a dear friend, but I got a phone call from a guy in the lower mainland. And he said, Barry, he said, never, you don't know me, but he said, we've got a weekly prayer call.

And I kind of think you might fit into it. And if you would dare join us one day, you know, could you jump on? And so I agreed to, I felt I was supposed to do that. So I jumped onto that call with a bunch of men and people, and women I did not know. And there was some Americans and there was some Canadians. And Sean, sometimes for me, when I step into a room or I step in, by the grace of God, sometimes I'll just know things about people I shouldn't know.

It's called a word of knowledge. And on this call, there's a man, you know, sitting there in a chair. And at first time, I'd met him. And I knew right away what he was carrying and what he was called to do. He's American. And what he's called not to do just for America, but in international affairs. And anyway, when I spoke to him and I shared what the Lord showed me,

he just about fell out of his chair. He said, very no one knows what I do. That's what God does. It turns out this dear brother has got a security clearance above top secret. And we bonded on that day because what I saw and what he was walking in reality, there was a confirmation there. and so that began, you know, a relationship with these folks. And so some of these people, they were looking at some of the prophetic words that I'd been giving over Canada and the United States.

And they actually wanted to send a document to the Office of President Donald J. Trump with what's happening in Canada and politically and, and reality and in conjunction with a prophetic word to tie it together. And so I said, I would be okay with that. If you want to, you know, share those words and send them, that's fine. So these guys, they put together a document to get to Trump. Well, now how do we get it there? Well, one of the boys said, you know what, we've got a, we got a friend we think can probably help us in Texas.

So they phoned him. And he said, you know, we've got this document. We're looking to get to Trump. Can you help us? he says we've been expecting your call. We had a dream on Wednesday that the Canadians were going to be calling looking for help.

I'll do what I can. This actually ended up being the fellow that had the designation above top secret. He hangs up his phone within 20 minutes his phone rings and that's a friend of his who actually works close with that administration. And my friend says, hey, can you help the Canadians?

They've got something they need to get here. And he said, done. And with 24 hours, we had a Zoom call with a man named Roger Stone. Do you know who Roger is? Yeah, I do. Yep. Yeah. So Roger, here's a man who is, you know, involved in four presidential administrations.

You know, there's Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and Trump. He actually is the guy that coined Make America Great again. So we end up on this Zoom call and there's Roger. And the Lord gives me a word for him that his wife has got stage four cancer. But God's going to heal her and bring her out. And actually I saw him standing on a stage with Trump and Melania in a stadium declaring her healing and giving God the glory in her healing. well it turned out mrs stone did have stage four cancer that day

and so it began a relationship with roger and i that was very special because i mean i had no natural knowledge of this other than god speaking to me so we go from there uh you know our relationship you know a few calls here and there mind if i interject interject i don't know the right word here that's I want to make, so I'm sitting here and I go, okay, Roger Stone, yes, I know who Roger Stone is. Yeah. I think most people who listen to this podcast understand who Roger Stone is.

And if you don't, just do, just pause for a second, do a quick Google search. And you're like, oh, okay. And I have, I just, the thought that comes to mind is this sounds strange, okay? Yep. And then I go, it sounds strange, but if Roger. Stone believes in it. Obviously, a lot more people believe in it, if that makes sense. I don't know how to flush out the entire thought I'm having right now.

But I'm going like, how is it possible that a couple of dreams align? Boom, boom, boom. Now you got Roger Stone. Roger Stone's going, you know, basically everyone's going, hmm, interesting. This is, you know, this has gone up the chain of command, if you would. Yes. Yes. Time passes.

And I have another dream about Roger Stone. I wake up at 4.20 in the morning. And in this dream with Roger, I know everything about him. There's things that I don't want to know. It is as personal as it gets. So 420 in the morning, I get out of bed, make a cup of tea, and I start making notes on that dream. Now what? Lord, now what?

2 o'clock that afternoon, I get a phone call from a friend of mine. Same one in the lower mainland. He says, Barry, I've got Roger's stone on the line he'd like to talk to you. Roger gets on the line. Hey Roger, how are you doing? He says, well, I woke up at 420 this morning and I rolled out of bed and I says, God, I can't do this by myself. He says, I caught on my knees and I said, Lord, I need help. He said, Barry, I'm going to be honest. He says, my to do list is 10 pages long and you were on page 10. I need to call you. But I knew last night that I had to phone you.

I said, well, isn't that something, Roger? I had a dream about you at 4.20 this morning. Would you like to hear it? And I shared that dream with him. And it touched him very deeply. And it brought a level of credibility and love between us that I can't explain, Sean. And he began to tell me, you know, of the goodness of God and how the Lord had been with him several times. Like, you know, when the 26th Navy SEAL showed up on his door,

with CNN waiting for him to put him in jail under the deep state, you know, directive. You know, the Lord has been with him and on him. And actually, Roger, he's the guy that actually coined Make America Great again for the Trump, you know, deal. And so since then, you know, we actually had a trip down south this summer where the Lord gave me a word for Roger and president. Trump and he he gave me a dream you know basically and and information where I knew people I know things and we had to go down south and deliver that to him and which we did and when you're a Canadian farm boy and you don't know all the names and you don't know all the people but when God releases it there's a purity in that that maybe God's speaking to us like so

So, you know, there's another brother that he's become one of my spiritual dads. And, you know, he's a fellow that operates in governmental things, you know, started out as a missionary. And how God has positioned him into these governmental realms. One of his girls contacted me a couple years ago. They said, we're watching what you're talking about, and we can validate it, much of what you're talking about. Some of it was Justin Trudeau and the things that he's been involved with. And they've been able to validate out of some of the things I've seen prophetically. They've got video of him doing things that Canada and the world will see.

And it's going to come with a great cost for him. So they vetted me basically to check me out. because they've got a group of profits and governmental intercessory people. And they said, you know, you'd kind of fit in with this team because we can validate some of the things you're talking about. And so I said, that's fine, you know, check me out. And, you know, I mean, I'm not a guy that's going to push my in anywhere. I mean, this is by grace that we're doing any of this. Like, I've got no, you know, I mean, I try to go really low.

And so a long story short is they put together a group of people that in 2002 were given a presidential executive order to put together a group of profits. That if they get two or three, we're about three words that come out of these profits that are the same, they treat it as valid intelligence in collaboration with natural evidence and natural. intelligence of which they've got military and governmental paths to act upon and you know you go back to 1971 and your viewers and you know you may not be aware but in 1971 the americans were running two classified programs one was called operation looking glass and the other was called operation Stargate. And what the Americans were doing is they were actually using the occult. And they were astro projecting into other nations to get intelligence, military and

governmentally, to basically, you know, form strategies. They were what now? They were using Satanists and occult people. And they would literally enter a spirit realm, astro projecting their spirit out of their bodies into other places to listen and hear and see what's going on. And classified operation, like you can, they're declassified now, but this is what they were doing. So my friend ends up running into this guy in the Pentagon one day that's managing these programs. And he says, why are you working with the devil and the dark side? If we're in a battle of light versus darkness, why are you guys operating in a realm of darkness?

So he said, why aren't you walking with a holy God with the prophets in this realm where the prophets are meant to walk with the kings and the presidents and the military? and so they were given an executive order then to put this group together. There's a lot there. I don't even know where to go with this. I'm like, okay, 1971, they had Looking Glass, which I've heard of, Stargate, which I've heard of.

Yes. What you're saying is, is they had, and this is where now I'm like, oh man, Sean, you got to, like, obviously I need to go look deeper into these two because I've heard of it. Heck, even on the Simpsons, you know, it's been, you know, like, you can go down, the old Simpson rabbit hole and find a whole bunch of things in there and you're like,

huh, and then you, it actually leads you to project looking glass essentially. Correct. I don't, I don't know. Should we, I'm trying to figure out where the heck to go with this because I'm like, that's a lot. I'm going to give you a couple little other pieces. Sure. Fire away.

So these guys, they've got these, this operation going. They've got these occult people in a room. They're astro projecting out. And I mean, this might be a lot for people. even wrap their head around, but you know, as God is my witness. There was, I'm going to call it a demonic entity that entered that room with these guys one day. And this demonic entity said, we'll give you all the intelligence you want, but it's going to cost you. It's going to cost you in blood.

And a month later, Roe versus Wade was passed in America. So, so when you get into a dark world, you know, the dark world, they will gain power out of these dark places to do evil things. And so in the absence of light, you know, we know we know where that's led us as a nation. Now, by the grace of God, these guys were able to meet, go into that room, a friend of mine, and the guy that managed this deal, they actually were able to go into that room and in repentance before God, say, forgive us where we walk with evil. Forgive us. Forgive us. where we have made these agreements with the enemy. And you know what?

A month later, Roe versus Wade was overturned. So that's a victory. Yeah. I don't know. I'm a blank freight now. I'm just like, I feel like I'm probably like every audience member going, okay. Yeah.

Like, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't mean to, I sit here and I go, holy man. You know, I feel like I've been dipping my toe in, You know, like you've listened to, I believe you've listened to me in Grant Talk. I did listen to the last, yeah. And I believe you've listened to me and Steve Holmstrom possibly. Yes, yes. And so you kind of like, you get, I don't know, if this is the water, I'm like dipping my toe in.

And at times I feel like I'm swimming. Yes. What you've just done is just, you know, throw me in the deep end and said, all right, let's go here. Yeah. I'm going, okay, you're kind of answering a bunch of questions that I've always wondered about, even Justin Trudeau. It doesn't matter, though. it could be any world leader, is that if you truly believe there is light

or whatever side of the spiritual force you want, right? Just take Star Wars for people who want to keep it in a nice friendly, okay, Star Wars, well, we got the Jedi. Yep. But there's always the opposite side. And the opposite side believes devoutly in what they're doing, even if it is evil.

Correct. And I go, what's the chances like Trudeau is surrounded by that? And it, but the energy, the power, whatever you want to attach to it is there. And it's real. It's like, well, I think it would be. Yeah. And what you're saying is, well, it's confirming a bunch of that. And, but then I go like a task force.

So in 2002, they put together a task force of Christian prophets. 35 Christian prophets. To go and just do what they're doing. Just are they paying these people? Or they just, they just keep it in contact. This gift, it comes at such a high cost. What do you mean? What do I mean?

Because I can tell, you know, like a couple of times, you're almost on the verge of tears. And I'm like, okay, I don't know, I don't know, I can tell you bits and pieces about my story and certainly fill in some of what I think I sit in here on this side of the table. But, I don't know, on the verge of tier, it comes with a cost. What's the cost? It comes with a cost, John. When you start to walk in these realms and you start to speak into these areas of darkness, you know, one of our brothers has had 24 attempts on his life. And you mean, for speaking truth?

So people have tried killing him. People have tried killing him. Because God has come and he shines light into these dark places. And the enemy in the deep state and the W.F and the globalists. Sure. It's under a great threat for them as these things are exposed and brought to the light. And so, you know, they'll do whatever they can to try and stop, you know, truth from moving on. And so we're a great threat, I guess you'd say, in the overall picture of what's unfolding here for the nations.

And it is quite a trip. These 35 prophets, is there like, I don't know, forgive me. You know, the WF, you think if you don't pay attention, you think it's all shadow games. But it's just a website. Go click on it. And there they all are. And this is what they're doing. And they just rattle it off right in front of you.

With the 35 profits, is that public knowledge or is that something like you have to dig a little? Do you know what? It's not out there. I'm sharing very vulnerable today. Sure. You know, I'm going out on a limb because people don't understand that God is not an indifferent bystandard. within our nation, that he is engaged. He knows what's going on.

He's know what's happening. I mean, I've had words of knowledge, John. One day, I mean, this is going to sound very strange, but I was taken to a street corner in New York City where I saw an assassination attempt on President Trump. Lord, what do I do with this? Boom, fired it over to a friend of mine. He sent it to Trump.

Ten minutes later, we get a call back. I was the second warning in five minutes identical. They were aware of the threat. They were dealing with it and they were moving forward. When you say you saw it, what do you mean by that? Even like we're on the street, like visual. So visually I was taken into a place that's almost like an awake dream. It's like having an awake dream where all of a sudden I've got a screen that opens up to me and I literally see this.

I'm standing looking at this screen in New York City. I feel really dumb for asking this, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Yeah, give her. Not on drugs, I assume. No. This is just like day walking. This is day walking. Yeah.

Does it? Yeah. Yeah. Forgive my skepticism. Because parts of it, I'm like, oh, that's interesting, right? I'm just sitting here and I'm like, hmm, I'm in a feisty mood today, I guess. I don't know. I'm like, I'm sitting here and I'm going, okay.

So does this? I sit here and I go Do any of the world leaders believe in anything they do? You know? And you're going, I have direct line to Roger Stone and Donald J. Trump. And there's 35 others that are doing something similar and when it's corroborated, they take that as like

this is better than firsthand account information, essentially, yes? They take and they couple it with other intelligence. so that they can have actionable things that happen with it. I'll give you one. I had an encounter where the Lord took me into Area 51. Have you heard Area 51? Yeah, I think everybody on the planet's heard Area 51. Okay, so Area 51, it's a, you know, it's a base in Nevada desert, highly secured.

And I was taken by the Spirit of God into one of the warehouses of area 51. And I saw technology in there, agriculture, energy, communication, crazy stuff. And I ended up sharing it on a program that I'm off and on. And three hours after the broadcast, I get an email. And the email says, today was the first day. I heard your name. Today was the first day I heard of Elijah Streams. And he says, for 17 years, I've been in anti-terrorist prevention globally.

My home base is area 51. He says, had I been working today, I would have made a call and had you arrested. I can't tell you whether what you've seen is real or not, but I would have made the call. He said, thank you for what you do. And, you know, I laughed. It was like, wow, that was a bit of, when I first read that, I was like, oh boy, we've touched something, right? Yeah. But the supernatural realm, you know, that God has given into gifts within his people, you know, most of the church is really unaware.

You know, they really don't know, you know, what comes with these gifts and how to walk in them and how to function. And you don't just jump into it in 10 minutes and like it takes some decades of walking with him. him to hear his voice and a surrender because when he tells you something are you going to be obedient to make that phone call. I got one fellow that Lord gives me words of knowledge for and I'll message him and he'll get back to me. He says, how do you do this? I just left the meeting with Premier or I just left a meeting with.

So when I'm on the phone with you and I'm going, hey, maybe we should do a podcast. Yeah, because I trekkled about this, you know, you're kind of like, yeah, you know, when it happened. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, whatever, because it doesn't really be able to. bother me. I'm like, all right, yeah, fair. Put the phone down and don't think about it again. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, Grant's calling you going, yeah, you've got to come do this. And you're like, oh, I guess, I guess it is meant to be. Yeah. That's the way you kind of look at life.

That's how I look at it, John. I mean, you know what, we cannot make up by our natural hands all of the things that have led us to this day in this moment in time for our nation. It would be impossible. And the collaboration, you know, even with Grant and I and how we've connected and how we're running. You know, he wrote this book, you know, firing the forge, you know, battle for the soul of Canada. So crazy thing is, I get a call from Grant, Labor Day Long weekend. And he was hanging out. Actually, it's Steve Holstrom's place in Drayton Valley. Okay. And they were having a fire and hanging out. He didn't know that my plans for the weekend just went up and smoked 10 minutes later. And he said, Barry, we're kind of hanging around the fire. We think you should come up for the day.

And I'm thinking, okay, let's do that. And I knew we were supposed to go. And did you know Grant at this point? Yeah, I'd known Grant for probably a year and a half. Okay. You know, we kind of met. And so we end up, you know, sitting around this fire. And he starts talking about this book he wrote, you know, firing the forge.

And as he's sharing it, John, I realize, like I had a dream four years before about Canada being reforged in the fire. And so this dream, what it was is I was taken into a blacksmith shop. And it was a timber frame deal kind of open air, neat as a pin, real nice. A forge in the middle of that blacksmith shop burning hot. And a big blacksmith, his back was to me. He had a leather apron on. And he spun around. And it was actually the Lord Jesus Christ.

And he had that, you know, he was prepared. to work on something. And he took three pieces of steel, about a foot wide and six feet long. And he took these three pieces and he kind of lined them up. And I knew that that was Eastern Canada, Western Canada, and the First Nations in the middle. And he stuck that into that forge, got it red hot, brought it out on the anvil, boom, sparks would fly, boom, back into the fire, back out. and he took and he bonded the east, the west and the first nations together into what he was building as a sword. And there was a big vat oil and at one point he took and he dipped that thing in the oil and to temper it for strength,

baptized in that oil, and it foamed over. And then he began to polish it. And before long it looked like a mirror. He put a handle on it in a guild. and he stamped above the guild, Canada, with a maple leaf. There was someone there that in Chainmell, you know what Chainmell is? You know, the Warriors used to, you know, with a hood up and all that. And so this person, Sean, it was like if you took every Canadian from the West Coast to the East Coast,

and you put them into one body, every Filipino, every Italian, every Irish, every German, every Swedish. every Indian, every Aboriginal, it was like you took every Canadian and you put into one body. And this Canada that I saw had such a love in them and such a compassion and such a strength and such a resolve that as the Lord handed that Canadian sword to Canada, to his sword, and I saw the reflection of them in this sword. this Canada united as one that they were not going to swing that sword

unless he said swing it and the humility in which Canada accepted the call that is basically a divine purpose for Canada to bring healing to other nations to help other nations is upon us

and we're being brought through this fire right now, you know, between all the division in the east of the west, of course, the Aboriginal, all the division, all of these kind of things, all of that we've gone through over the last few years and all that we're going through with all the pressure, all of the heat, you know, it's shaken, absolutely everything can be shaken. And in the end of the day, it is all going to be used to bring us together closer. And so that's part of the picture and that's part of what's unfolding. And so, When we're sitting around the fire this day and, you know, we're talking about Grant and I share this dream.

It's like, wow, this is starting to make some sense. How often do you have the dreams? I know it's probably not like every night you're just buckling in. You go, I'll wake up in the morning and write it down. But like honestly, how often are you having the dreams? Do you know, it's, sometimes it'll be a season where it'll be, you know, a week or two or you've got boom, boom, boom. sometimes it can be a few months. But usually there's a few significant ones a month

that are significant. So you have a book of dreams, I assume? I get up in the middle of the night when it's three in the morning and I'll make notes. And first thing I do, I pray. You know, first thing, you know, what do we do with this?

And many of them don't get shared publicly. But, you know, there are many that are sometimes private that sometimes there'll be a warning for people. sometimes I'm taken into someone's life where I know things I shouldn't know and God wanting to help prevent something from happening or you know bring some encouragement

and so you don't like going into somebody else's life do you know do you know what I approach it with I mean it's so it's so tender you know that you know I don't want to hurt anybody

you know whatever i see whatever i do it it has to be you know i've been postured where use it for good you know for for encouragement and and uh to bring things to a higher level and so that's how i've i've you know stewarded my life with it is to to operate it in that way and uh so and and as as that happens i mean the crazy things that happened Sean you know the the the calls I get from some from leaders and military people we had a four-star general that used to run NORAD that we've become very close to was in Cheyenne Mountain 9-11 the day that that went down and you know what because what we've seen what I talk about what I see a lot of validation can come out of that office and in fact we had one one and this is a bit crazy but

but again through the relationship. You never know it's going to come on the phone when it rings. But the last Canadian election, I'll tell you this, one of our American friends up there got a call from a Canadian military leader, very high. Canadians were still at the polls. And this Canadian phone this American, high official. And he said, we've been told that the candidate is in office,

which was Trudeau. and to prepare to mobilize. So Canada was still thinking, you know, at the polls, casting their vote for a prime minister when the decision had already been made behind the scenes. And this is hard maybe to comprehend for, you know, many Canadians that, you know, we're in a, you know, we're supposed to live in a democracy.

But what's, happening even above that is is much greater. You know, I've had words about Pierre Polivir where I've seen some things that he was involved with. And I shared them, you know, publicly. You know, he is overseas and he got involved in some things that, you know, put him in a very compromising position. And they tried to bury it. And there's going to be some things that are going to come to the surface out of that are going to not do him well. I share this and then I end up getting a call from an official that was part of that

organization from a very high desk and basically he confirmed what I had said. And so we're in a moment here within Canada where God is, not an indifferent bystandard and our nation is not going to be forfeited to the plans of these these dark ones and so to put me in this kind of place where some of this stuff comes in we try to steward that in the best way we can to for the Canadian people to bring protection that they can we can come into the destiny of the nation that we're called to

you know, in light. So you see you're hopeful then for where Canada is heading, you know? Personally, I look at the future and I go, you know, it looks like Pierre's going to get in if I was to, you know, the polls

say everything says, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not a big believer in much of that, but regardless, that's what it's saying. Right. And, you know, in the short term you go, are things going to get better? Slightly.

And then, you know, if we keep careening towards all the things, when you look at what you're seeing, all your dreams and everything else, you see bright days ahead. I do. I do. But I will say this is, I think the structures that we've known them, you know, in this bandwidth of typical political structure, we're going to see a drastic change with all of those.

systems, both here and in America and other places, where we're going to come out of the corporation of Canada. America, they're going to come out of the corporation of the United States of America and that are run and controlled by these elitist global folks. And so I don't believe it's going to be just a party. You know, it's not just going to be a removal of Trudeau, you know, and, you know, and jag meat and all that kind of stuff. I don't think it'll be that.

All of these folks are bought and paid for by other people. And so from what I know and what I see, we're going to see a takedown of a system and a new system stood up for a rebirthing of a nation and for the nation of the United States of America, well, I'd say the Republic of the United States of America. What's the average person say, when you tell them what you do?

The average person, you know what? Because I, and while you think about that, where I sit, I'm like, I've been on, you know, when it comes to Christianity, Bible, reading, praying, etc., I've had my own journey into it.

And I'm sitting here and I'm going, man, this is, this is a lot. Yeah. Like, this is a lot. And I'm going, so what is the average person? He's like, I don't know what the, does the average person think your looney tunes? Do you know what? I'll give you a story.

I had an MRI on my back at the university hospital. Sure. And I'm sitting in the waiting room when this nurse comes and she's putting intravenous in me. And as soon as she walks up to me, I know everything about her. I know, you know, about her family. I know about her husband. I know about their future. And, oh, what am I supposed to do with this?

And she takes me in front of my emmer. our eye and, you know, go through all that, 45 minutes in the machine, come out, she brings me out, she's taking out the intervenous. I'm in the little waiting room with, you know, three or four other patients, a Muslim brother and some other ones. Anyway, I said, this is going to sound really strange, but, you know, I'm a Christian and, you know, God still speaks today, and this is going to sound really weird, but I believe he's given me a word for you. And so what I saw was her and her husband, they'd actually finally come to a point where they wanted to have a child. And if they were going to have that, have a baby girl, you know, they were going to name that baby,

you know, Debbie, Deborah. And she gets this look on her face like I hit a nerve. And I said, furthermore, you know, your husband's been to hell and back. He's been unjustly accused of some things. They're all lies. He's handled in them the right way. and God is going to honor him and actually is going to get a promotion out of that thing

and it's all going to be good. And I said, I see your mother loves you more than you think. And what has been broken with your relationship with your mother, God is going to bring and restore because she has laid her life down for you and she loves you more than ever. Well, by now this dear nurse, she's kind of choking back the tears and kind of frozen actually, very awkward.

She finishes my ivy. She kind of politely thanks me. She heads down the hallway. She's halfway there. She turns around. She comes back. And she says, okay. We are trying to have a baby.

If the baby, it is going to be a Deborah. My mom and I have been estranged for five years. And it haunts me every day that we're not together. We're not walking together. She said, yeah, my husband, he's been through Helen back with this and that. And she said, by the way, she said, I used to have a gift like you, then I ran from it because she didn't know how to handle it. So on that day, God took me into the university hospital in Edmonton, opened up a window

into her heart, spoke life and truth, and she wept and there was healing. Like, how do you know it's God? How do I know it's God? Yeah. Over time, Sean, as you walk with him, you get to know his voice. over time you get to hear him. I mean, even for you, I'm not going to even be as crazy to say, even this morning thinking about you,

I saw some things about you and what you're called to do for this nation and for this region. And you ended up doing what you're doing here, and I'd be as bold as I may. I'm just going to share if I may. Sure. I seen you were going down a path, and there was an interruption where you weren't able to do

what you were doing any longer in the in the place that he'd in the arena in the arena in which he'd called you to do and through that interruption you know you had to kind of recalibrate and and you know figure out what path it was going to be you're going to be land on but I saw you Sean going through a sifting you know like a flower sifter you know you kind of you know you sift and I saw you going through a bit of a sifting and because of what you're call to today for the nation and in media and bring a voice of truth and the purity that is in your heart and the integrity for truth in which you walk. You're a cutting voice for the nation. And actually I saw you in a gleaming silver armor like a like a warrior. And the light that

came out of you and the reflection of light in what you're carrying in truth and what you're bringing to those that need it right now is amends and and as a goose as a goose you know in the old days they used to the military would set up a watchtuck what Barry's talking about is I've only ever been I've been in one church where they prophesized and I was extremely uncomfortable with it I was very uncomfortable. This is probably why I'm uncomfortable with this entire chat because I'm this like, I don't understand this. I'm not sure I want to understand it. I'm just, you know, it's like, it's a lot. It's a lot. And, you know, like I sit and for people listening, you know, I, uh, sometimes I'm like, are I really going to go talk about this? You know,

like, is this what I'm going to do today? All right. Here we go. And so I'm, uh, I'm like, yeah, I'm uncomfortable. Anyways, so he's telling me about the Canadian, back when we talked on the phone and I went, hey, Canadian Hammer and he's like, yeah, who's this? And I tell him, oh, anyways, I go, oh, that's really funny because I had no idea who Barry Wanch was. I had no idea who you were. Had no idea who the Canadian Hammer was. And you said, oh, I got prophesized once upon a time.

And I'm like, oh, that's weird. I got prophesized once upon a time, too. The only time I've ever, that I can remember that it's ever happened and I was extremely uncomfortable was not this joyous occasion, more so probably because I was in this, like, state of like, can I, you know, like, I don't know. anything to do it. Anyways, the guy said I'm a goose, and I'm like, I walked out of there. I'm like a goose. The heck does that mean? You know, I'm like, if I was ever going to get, dig into it, I'm like, okay, I'm a goose and I'm going to honk. All right, I'm honking. All right. I walk out and I'm like,

well, that was strange, you know, because I have no idea. Sorry, now I'm just the backstory of it, because I told Barry this on the phone, and then you carry on. Yeah. So, so he tells what, Sean tells me the story that, you know, I had this word that I was called a goose. I don't know what it means and I says, I do. And so the story is this, is that they used to put a goose up in a watchtower with the soldiers that were on night watch. So they could hear if there was an enemy

that was coming in and the soldiers were asleep, the goose would honk to wake them up so they could resist and fight the enemy. And this, Sean Newman, is who you are and who you're created to be. what you're doing in raising truth and awareness to Canadians with all that's on the horizon and all that's happening and all that's unfolding.

You are honking. You are blown a trumpet to wake people up to posture them to fight the enemy. And you have got a pure heart in you, my brother. I mean, I just met you today. And I mean, the integrity and how you walk, I mean, it just oozes out of you. And so for whatever that's worth, I submit that to you today.

And does any of that make sense? Well, I mean, the Goose story, after you told me that, and even again hearing it, I'm like, did they really do that? Like, I'm like, man, that's interesting. Because if they did, I'm like, you know, I've watched a lot of old school war movies. I've never seen that before. I'm like, does Goose actually do that? I'm like, okay, well, that's interesting because I'm like, some listener for just

dig that up for me so I can read it you know because I can be oh that's you know like I don't know I um on the general thing like overall it's like does it make sense yeah I guess I'm just I'm muddling through my

version of life you know it's things that don't make sense so if you go back and you listen to day one until now you kind of get where things start to go awry and where I start digging you know it's like okay, we're going to talk to some doctors. We're going to talk to this.

We're going to talk to that. We're going to talk to some politicians because, you know, there was a time and place where, like, the only way this gets fixed is by having Daniel Smith elected as Premier. You know, I can sit here and I can, I can, you know, or whoever, you know, it's like, if somebody can beat Daniel Smith, I remember having this thought, then I don't care if they're NDP or Green Party or whatever. It's like, let's have the best candidate in theirs to do the job.

Right. Well, Daniel Smith's elected. Are things better? Sure. But like overall, I mean, we still got some weird stuff going down. And where the weird stuff goes on, it's like, are we going to talk about or we're not going to talk about it? And I guess for me, the days of not talking about weird things is over. Like, you know, even if that brings me deeper into the God spiritual talk, I'm like, all right, well, I mean, at this point, if you haven't acknowledged that there, you know, I don't know if I get this right. I call it like, you know, two different lenses, you know, there's just there's the physical.

then there's the other thing. I've experienced my own little portions of it that I tried to not rationalize out, but just try and be like, what the heck was that, you know? So like the day walking thing you talk about actually makes a lot of sense to me. The only problem I, the only problem,

the reason I ask is, how do you know what's God? Is my day walking, oh man, like I just, I look at it and I go like, none of that came to fruition. I lied like a sailor. another I don't know these sailors life I don't know he gets the point

I'm just I was thinking swearing but I just I just you know like to me I wasn't accurate in anything I said and when I go back to thinking about it and that was in Ottawa

when you talk when you talk about you know how serious let's let's just say Donald Trump takes us I go well if he takes it that serious

or whatever political leader you want and there's political leaders that take the other side serious that's a terrifying thought and then you have, I don't know, say a protest,

maybe one of the largest in Canadian history, land out front of his front door, and what happens? It's like, well, bouncy houses and lots of great things. But from a, if we're going to admit that there's two worlds, well, the other world wasn't very happy. And, you know, when you get emotional, I'm like, oh, I know that emotion.

Like, I've felt that emotion, you know? I walked in that for several days. That was not a fun time. It's just I don't even know where to begin with all that Because I'm like, I don't know Like I don't know Like how do you make sense of something that You know, up until a year ago

I didn't even realize this existed And nobody talked about it Not a single soul would talk about it I mean, I shouldn't say that People were talking about it I just not in my circles Right And certainly if you signed on

The Sean Newman podcast a year Two years ago You weren't thinking this is where we're going Folks, I didn't think this is where we're going either And yet here we are Yeah You know, you just, the, the path that this has led us on, you know, Sean, when, you know, again, supernaturally by the grace of God, for God to open up these relationships with, you know, some of our American friends and Canadian, you know, brothers and sisters, the likes of Grant, when we were, you know, at the, you know, around that fight. that weekend, you know, talking about the fire of the forage.

Sure. That day I knew that I had to introduce Grant and the Four Star General and the American friends that we've got down south. And so we ended up doing that. And I had a Zoom call that I was going to have the Americans on one and then the Canadians on another because of some of the things I'm aware of on the intelligence. side on the back end. I thought we as Canadians need to be postured as things unfold that we're walking, first of all, I want to walk in step with what God is doing in the nation and will prosper,

but too, that we're walking as closely as we can with our American, you know, friends and authorities that are in the right places. So I ended up doing a Zoom call that day, but I made a mistake and all of them showed up on the same call. And so we were there and we were able to hear Grant and others were able to hear with their own ears from some of these offices, some of the things that are happening behind the scenes. And it led us to actually to a trip down to Texas where we met with some of these officials. That was actually a miracle that these men could all be, you know, free and available for the same week and the same period of time, right? And so we ended up down on a private ranch, you know, 185 acres guarded. And we were able to gather together.

And we ended up first we opened in prayer, you know. So we had the fellow, you know, the above top secret guy. And then the other one that's running with the group of prophets. And then another brother down there that kind of hosted us. landing strip for Israeli generals and officials to come in and out of that property. And we were able to sit around a table, Sean, and share, you know, what's going on in Canada. We talked about the fires. You know, I had during, during this last season, Sean, I'd have guys contact me because I'd see things.

And then my phone rings. You know, I talk about and then I get phone calls. You know, from northern Alberta, you know, wherever. getting people locals that were up there lived their whole life new every creek every stream every lake every trail and uh they're sending me trying to send me pictures of some of the forces that were up there and some of the military that was up there and some of things that were really going on i mean these these men uh you know they've taken pictures on their phones and 30 seconds like they're white blank with because of what they were seeing and sharing and and

And, you know, when it comes to the fire zones, I mean, there are places shown where, I mean, there are fire boxes detonated, timed boxes to ignite these fires on. So when you've got these ones that we trust in places of authority that are coming at their own people, terribly frightening. In fact, you know, one of the generals that we're involved with, he talks about even. psychological warfare. And, you know, all these governments, they've got teams that they operate in psychological warfare. I mean, through COVID, Britain was the one that broke and then came out to Canada, done it for a time. You know, at the core of it, and I could be making this way too simple, but sometimes, you know,

like, let's just take the complications of, you know, how complicated it gets and just boil it down to pretty much a simple truth. you either think we're killing the planet and we're not. Right. And if you think we're killing the planet, then you're going to do things to save humanity. Right. And in order to save humanity, you have to kill humanity. Right.

I mean, right? Because we've got too many people. So what are we going to do? We're going to do a whole bunch of different things. We're going to need them to get how we get them in line. Well, we've got to give them this narrative. We've got to tell them this. And so now you own all the media stations and this, we're going to walk this path, folks.

And this is how we're going to get out of it. And you go, that sounds like horrific. Well, because it is, one, it is. But two, it's like, but they truly believe they're saving the planet because we're destroying it. I mean, that's to me when I, like, when, you know, rubber meets the road, it's like, we can go around all these different examples and you go, why are they doing that? It's like, well, they come all the way back. At eight point, whatever billion, they go, we can't handle anymore. The thing I always love when an older generation guy comes on.

He goes, yeah, but they've been saying that for, you know, 40 years, right? Every year, every decade is in the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing, and here we are. And if they just get out of our way, we'll continue to find ways to better the planet and work better with people and everything else. But they want to get in the middle of it and divide everybody and keep pushing and, you know, and on and on we go. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, this is, you know, the narrative of these, this is, you know, what some of their tactics are to bring. this control and to fulfill this agenda in which they have.

And so God is showing it, bringing his light into these places to bring all the exposures, to bring these things to light so they can be dealt with. And, you know, even you look at our economics, I mean, we've got a, one of the guys we're involved with, you know, they're involved. They've got a brokerage and an auditor in America, and they've got 384 banks in which they actively are in audit positions with. and over 50% of the American banks are insolvent. And so they'll get in $500 million in deposits.

They'll lend it out, you know, as much as they can. Yeah, anywhere between 10 to 100 times roughly, right? Yeah, hoping to give a little back in 90. So what's happening is like it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when this thing is going to come down. But in their audits, they also found a bank account that has 96 decimal points to the left. and we've heard of the wealth transfer, we've heard of Nasar Jasara,

we've heard all these kind of things, I can tell you this is happening where much of what has been stolen from us, where we've been used as an asset for the corporations of our conations is being returned. And it's a game changer. And so as that, as this,

these funds have been taken, and are being taken out of the treasures of the enemy and given back to God's people. I mean, this is actually really happening. And then, you know, you get into other things where you've got the revaluation of currencies, the gold currencies, these things are really happening. And so we're in a moment where it's going to be really difficult for a lot of people as this change kind of happens. But at the end of the day, it's for our freedom.

and at the end of the day it's for the rebirthing of what is God is happening in and in Canada, US and other nations and so we've got great days ahead within that yeah yeah I mean

it's a lot I mean you're just you're talking something about you're talking about something that is so beyond my grasp even though you know like in my own life I've ran into things that are definitely, I don't know, I don't want to say similar because I, you know, I've never been

the guy who, who, that's, that's not true. I've had dreams in different things, but definitely nothing as large as what you're talking about. Um, you know, in the coming years, I guess, I, I don't know, is there anything that, you know, you're like, we better make sure we share this, you know, like, I had a weird dream one night. This is probably like a month ago, about 2026. That's the only thing I remember out of it. I'm like, what a weird dream to have, you know, like where all you remember is a year. It's like, okay, well, and now I think about it all the time. Like, 2026. I wonder what, what is 2026, you know, like obviously it's a couple years away and, and everything else, but it's like, okay, well, what's that? Like, I don't know. You're a guy who has

prophetic dreams year after, or month after month. Is there anything in the future that you're like, oh, we better talk about this? Well, Sean, I think that there's two things. And I mean, as we see, you know, this financial shaking that's coming and happening. We're also going to see that governmental shaking and turnover happening. And so where we've had a silence, you know, from Ottawa and from, you know, these different offices that are basically bought and paid for by darkness, those things are all going to be exposed and there is going to be justice happening. And I believe we're coming into a biblical event. I believe we're going to see an EBS,

like an emergency broadcast that's coming. And, you know, in our discussions with our friends down south, there's an understanding that this is, in fact, going to be becoming and happening. And we may end up with a period of time as things are turned over that, you know, we may end up with a bit of darkness. Like there may actually be a blackout.

There may be a communication blackout for a period of a week. or 10 days while they're going from one system into a new one into the new one. And so, you know, not to bring fear on anybody. Like this is not to bring fear. This is to say that what you're going to see isn't all that meets the eye. And we need great discernment as this happens. And so as these unrighteous crooked paths are taken out, I believe God is, looking to stand up righteous leaders, righteous governance for the nation in truth for all Canadians and Americans and other ones that may hear this, that is going to be on a foundation of truth

and righteousness that the enemy has no part of. And, you know, again, the information, you know, as I share in some of the calls that I get back and some of the intelligence, I can't, you know, obviously share it all. But it is kind of mind-blowing when, you know, we get these confirmations and the natural of the things that we see prophetically and speak of prophetically. And the convergence of, you know, the supernatural and of, you know, God and his governance walking within the nations. do you come from a line of this like it was your dad

or your mom or relatives or is this like completely out of the blow do you know what my mom my mom was you know Lutheran

Lutheran background you know I was Christian you know as a baby you know they christened me as a you know in the Lutheran church my dad his background was more on the

Pentecostal side Baptist you know kind of Pentecostal and honestly it's scared him. You know, he, you know, in those days, it was very religious and very, you know, kind of different, but they always had a faith. My mom particularly, uh, always, you know, I mean, she was up in the morning. She'd be reading her Bible and at night she'd be reading her Bible and it was bedtime prayers and, and my mom actually had a gifting, uh, where she did dream and she did.

But in those days, no, like she didn't really operate in it, like to the level that she probably could have. And for... So do you, do you, do you, like you mentioned at the start, the very start, that you were, like, in construction by trade. Do you do any of that anymore? Do you know, my, that whole life for me, and this sounds strange, but God woke me up three in the morning. And literally with a, you know, I want to talk to you. And I went out to my, I went out to my, You know, I made a cup of tea and sat in my chair. And he said, Barry, your life is never going to be the same. He said, I'll look after you.

I'll care for you. And you're not going to be like anyone else. I mean, you look through, you know, all the prophets of old and, you know, the ones that, you know, we read about in the Bible. He said, you're not going to, yeah, he's, I've called you to be you. And I've given you a gift to be you. And he said, your life is never going to be. going to be the same. And he flashed before me all of these guys. And you're not going to be like him and him and him and him and him. And a week later, I was invited on to a show called Elijah's

Dreams. And Elijah Streams is out of America hosted by a guy named Steve Schultz, who he has profits on every day. And from across, you know, America. And I think I'm primarily the Canadian one that they walk with. And they invited me on. They've been watching me. And they vetted me. You know, they dug around the corners to see people in my life. Who's this guy?

Is he real? Is he what's he about? You know, like, is he nut bar? Like, is he okay? I'm just being honest. They check me out. Well, it's not like you're building a, I mean, in fairness to you. It's not like you're like, hey, I'd like to build a house and here's the deed and blah, blah, blah.

and I got the wood and, you know, I mean, you're talking about something, and all I can think of is woo. It's just like it's out there in the woo. It is. And you go, so you can, you can have probably a very devout Christian. I can just imagine, when this releases, you can probably have your most devout Christian who goes, man, that's hard. That's, really?

Because I'm going to get, well, I'm not going to get this exact task, because I'll put it in some listeners mind now and they won't do it. But somebody's sitting there going, like, Was that for real? What was Barry Lake? And I'm like, I don't know. I'm sitting here meeting you for the first time, and I'm going, my brain is trying to wrestle with everything you're saying.

Yeah. You know? You know what, Sean? Things of the spirit cannot be discerned necessarily by a natural mind. Sure. You know, that revelation, that understanding is very difficult for an intellectual mind. for an intellectual brain to process some of these spiritual things. It's just a fact.

But I can say that as I've walked this road and by the grace of God, as he gives these things, and you see the doors that open up before you, there's no way in a million years coming out of, I've got no education. I didn't do Bible school. I didn't do like none of that I just was you know ran a business of construction so do you have you asked the question

why me? Thanks do you know he came to me he said Barry you're not my first choice how does that make you feel he said beer I'm not honest thanks for being honest you're not my first choice like well at least you're honest he said you're not my first choice because when you step out and you start

talking about these things I mean that you you know people think you're crazy sometimes Well, not sometimes. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. I mean, come on. There will be people listening and going, that was wild. That was the wild hour of driving around the oil patch

or sitting at the kitchen sink doing dishes or on and on and on what people do. I'm sitting here and I'm going, this is a wild hour of podcasting folks, right? Like I'm trying to, you know, when you say you rash, it's like, no, that's all fair. Yeah. I mean, I would have never. You know, if you became the GM. and the M in Tannoylers right now you'd have an easier time and that's saying something because they've been really stinking it up.

They've won a couple now. And by the time we release this, who knows, maybe they'll be on the, maybe they'll beat Vegas and on and on and on we go. But I mean, sorry. I just, you're not dealing in something that, um, the, but, but then I stopped myself right here. You're not dealing in and I was about to say what the world normally does or what have you. And yet I'm like, but that's, that's Western world.

The Western world, we've cut this portion out. of our lives. This is what me and Graham were talking about, whether it was in the first time or the second, second time. I'm just like, you know, for my entire life, I didn't really think much of this at all. Right. And now over the last year, maybe a little longer, because it was since Ottawa, I've spent a lot of time thinking about it, you know? I mean, I bring this story up a lot, but Frank Peretti, you know who Frank Peretti is? Any chance you know how to get a hold of Frank Prattie? No, I don't. I don't. I don't. Listeners, I'm still working on that one. So I'll tell this story again because obviously, sorry folks, Barry doesn't,

Barry doesn't, probably hasn't heard this story, but Frank Peretti, author, right? Know the story, know the books. Okay. Is he the, into the darkness and piercing the darkness, right? Okay. I think, are there's two big ones back in the 80s? Okay. This is how I tell the story, okay?

this is um you know i grew up reading like just world giant world novels that were like fantasy novels so like lord of the rings harry potter um dune like all these big like wow these are you know like really get your imagination going and i i lost it i just i just lost it somewhere i didn't have any of it i couldn't read a you know a five-second comic let alone you know like i don't know novel yeah right i just I just, you know, at times I could pick something up, but I never like, used to be, I'd get into something and I'd read it till like two in the morning. Heck, I'd have to convince myself to go to bed, just go to bed, you know, everybody talks

about video games. Yeah, sure. I can get wrapped in that too, but I used to be books. Anyways, um, uh, my son needed a practice jersey, and so I actually got next door had been like, well, we'll just go to the olive tree in town. You know, they're second-hand store, they'll have practice. I'm like, that's a good idea. It cost me a couple bucks.

So I go in there and I'm, you know, I'm sitting there. and I see the, I don't get the blacksters, but then I see they got like a little back room full of books. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like a kid in the candy store. Even when I walk through the mall, I'm like, I don't need one. I'm not reading anything right now. But I'm ding dang, if I can't just stick them up there. And I don't know. It's like, you know, something will grab your attention and then you start reading and the way you go.

Except that hasn't happened a long time. So anyways, I'm like, I'm trying to convince myself, don't go in this room. Don't go in this room. Finally, I'm just like, you know what? I'm going to go in the room, all right? Going in the room. And I'm looking at all these books. and I can't find a single bloody thing that I want to read.

So I just do a simple prayer. It seems to, you know, where I'm at, it just makes sense. And if it doesn't make sense for you, that's totally cool. But for me, I'm just, you know, if there's something here I need to see, this, and let me see it. And it was like, the fourth book in was Frank Pretti. I'm like, geez, I recognize that name. Why do I recognize that name?

And so I googled it, and I, oh, this is what Seth had been sent to me. So I'm like, oh, all right. Wow, wait a second. How do I know this is God now? and so I flipped open the first two pages and it was Ephesion 6 and I'm like okay you got me alright so I walk out and pay like a dollar for this book you know and I thought it was an autobiography like I you know I thought it was literally getting I didn't piece two and two together you know how can you be so smart

and so stupid I don't know I walk it every day you know like I'm just like I should realize it didn't say autobiography didn't say the true story of Frank Prattie it was literally into the darkness and piercing the darkness I think are the two titles and So I read like the first two pages and I'm like, what the heck am I reading? Like this feels something different than, you know, just an autobiography. So then I Google Frank Peretti for the first time ever.

And here they call him like this, the Christian Stephen King. And I mean, you can love or hate Stephen King. He is a national, like a New York Times bestselling author over and over and over and over again. So to be called that, I'm like, oh, oh.

And then I proceeded to, to read the first one and I couldn't even put it down. And it was like certain pages, I'm like, oh my God, yeah, I've experienced. Oh, my, I didn't realize that existed. And so I don't know where I'm going with all this. Other than like, I've experienced some of that. And then you come in and you sit and you talk and I'm like,

I don't know, man. This is so not, I don't think crazy. I just, I go like, this is wild is the word I come up with. It's like, this is pretty freaking wild. And yet I can sit and tell you that story. And I think that story is pretty wild. I'm like, I think probably people, write me off is that's pretty crazy and you just went into a book thing and grabbed a book

Sean and you knew the name and that's all that was and I'm like if that's what you think that's fine that's not what I think yeah I mean when when I see you know when God opens up these windows and sometimes it comes just as the slightest whisper you know and if you'll you know sometimes I'll hear just the slightest whisper and I and you lean into that and he starts to open it up It's just like an invitation to come in a little deeper, to come in. And so as I go, you know, I'll just pray. I mean, or I'll put on, you know, worship music. You know, I mean, just, you know, I call it soaking music or whatever.

And I'll just pray and meditate, you know, not meditate, but pray and spend time with God. And sometimes he'll open up that little whisper into more, not always. But he's taken me into rooms, Sean, in that place. with him where I've been in rooms where I've been in conversations where I've heard things I shouldn't hear. Where I'm in rooms of global leaders and authorities, hearing and seeing things that I shouldn't see in here. And Barry. I don't mean to make light of it, but it is kind of funny, isn't it? It is.

And so when you share these things out and then, you know, your phone starts ringing, it's really kind of neat. You know, we had one, and I mean, just recently, I mean, John F. Kennedy, I mean, it was a 60th anniversary of his passing and assassination. And God took me actually into that event that day that happened, you know, in Dallas. And I saw what happened and I saw some of things involved.

And I ended up getting, so I shared it publicly, I get a package in the mail. from a fellow that work with JFK when he was president. And this family, actually, they sent me his White House pass from when he worked there with him. Some other memorabilia, pictures of Jackie Kennedy and Johnson. You're out there in the mail? That showed up in my mailbox with a story.

And they said, what you talked about with what you saw. My dad was supposed to be on duty the day of JFK's assassination. But he and his team, they were diverted from that assignment that day, called elsewhere. Had he been working with his team, Kennedy would not have been assassinated. And they went in and they broke this thing down. Yeah. So for you, you're going, like, I've seen things and there's no change in my mind. There's no change in your mind.

And, you know, Sean, sometimes I go to these places. Taiwan, the Lord took me into Taiwan. And I mean, they're under it over there. And Lord took me into a high-rise building of generals in Taiwan because they're fighting, you know, the communist, you know, overreach big time hanging on for all their worth. And I saw some things and I prophesied about it. I shared what I saw.

I get a message from Taiwan from these generals from this room. saying, you've been with us, you've seen what we're up to. And they're on their knees before God, praying for a path out against this evil. And they put together a prayer initiative in Taiwan that went out to 72,000 churches for people to pray and fast. And they released the word that I saw what I saw

into those prayer groups so they could stand as a nation to stand up against this. And God is not an indifferent bystandard. He wants to walk with us, you know, against these evils. And by his grace, you know, he's opened up, you know, some of these channels to do so. And so I honor those that hear the call. And they say, okay, I surrender.

I've heard that voice, but I've resisted it. I've heard that pull on my heart, but I've resisted it. I've been burned by religion. I've resisted it. God is an intimate God. And ultimately, he's looking for that relational intimacy with each of us. Well, he's going to say, you know, he's got a sense of humor. Because I remember praying, all right, I'm in.

but I don't want a dull life I remember saying I want the adventure yeah that laughter you know I'm sure there's a bunch of people laughing right now because I'm like I did not see this curveball coming I've not seen a lot of the curve balls coming and I'll get a lot of people asking you know what I thought about this and everything else I'm not gonna go

ruminate on it and you know a whole bunch of other things right but you know one thing I don't kick myself for but like I'm like I really was like can we please have an adventure like I really want to, I don't want to just be dull. I don't know. I tell you what. Every time I sit across from somebody, I'm like, how did I get here?

Yeah. How did I get here? This is, this is something, you know? And it's funny because it, honestly, folks, it feels like some days it searches me out now. Because I wasn't trying to, like, you know, like, I wasn't trying to get you on. Oh, yeah, you know, not that I don't care. It's like, I do care. But granted's the one, you know, and I'm.

I'm going to ground. I'm like, well, I don't know. What are your conversations like? Is this something I need to have? Oh, you need that? Well, okay. Now the audience is going to tell me what are they thought of it, right? And on and on it goes.

Right. But I'm like, you know, the days of acting like I can fully have control of the ship. I do, but I don't, you know? And it's like, well, one day, you know, it's like, what is going on today? Oh, here it is. Yeah. The Canadian hammer rolls in. There is, there is no life like it.

You know, we often look at this path as a road of, you know, it's a narrow road. For me, it's a very narrow road. You know, I mean, I've got a very narrow lane. And it is the most reward. Some people I think it's restrictive, you know, it is actually the most exciting. Well, this isn't everything you just said. It's like a restrictive. You've been in, you know, you're either, you know, like one will say you're the biggest fabricator of the truth ever, right?

Somebody will say that, for sure. That guy's full of crap. Or there will be the other side. This guy's amazing. This will happen. And you go, I don't know. I'm sitting staring at the Trump, you know, whatever that is, the badge coin. I'm going, oh, okay.

It's put you in rooms that, you know, not that this room is like the, you know, the oval office by any stretch, but it's still put you in this room and it's putting you in you know with grant you guys are going across Canada right now talking to different people and um the fact that your name came up to me you know and I go like you're getting you're getting putting rooms with people that don't make a whole lot of sense like by rationale yeah I mean we we go we've been traveling across now you know you're doing lots of meetings grant and I and we share about the convergence that's happening in our nation and And you cannot, again, you could not fabricate this, you know, in a natural process of developing what's happening here.

You just can't. And room after room, sometimes 24 hours notice, we have people driving four hours to come in and hear what's going on. To know they want truth. They want to know these things. Is there, like false. prophets, you know, like the opposite of what I assume you're doing. That, I don't know. I don't know how to.

You're right. You're right. You're right. There are false prophets. I mean, there are those that will, we'll try to now when you look at a false prophet. I mean, it usually comes where they're actually wanting to try to have you worship someone other than Lord Jesus Christ and the God of, you know, that we serve. But there are also many that will operate in.

a gift to build their own platform, to build their own kingdom, to put money in their pocket, to, you know, whatever the purpose is that, you know, I mean, in an unhealthy way. And when I talk about keeping a purity on the gift, I mean, it's with fear and trembling that I share some of these things that I do. But I would rather be obedient to him and share it. truth, whether people accept it or not. I'm just a delivery boy. And it's up to each one to take and weigh it. And they say, take and you know, you candle like a chicken egg. You know, they take and they candle that egg in front of a candle to see, is there the seed of God? Is this truth? Is the

seed of God? Is there light in this egg? Is what this word is brought? Can we measure that? Can we say, yeah, that's the real thing. And If you can't, pitch it. Give it a kick. So everything we bring, we submit. And, you know, it talks about, you know, that the prophets come, two or three of them share. You know, you weigh it. And then the other thing, Sean, is prophets are actually made to walk with the kings and the military leader.

Not to just come and give a nice word to a church or something. And I'm not saying that there's some that don't do that. But there's a governmental authority that comes. comes in this realm that it's not for everybody. I mean, it would be much easier to just say I'm a carpenter. I'm a project manager. You know, we build things. That would be much easier.

But I cannot withhold that which he's called us to release. Is there a room that's easy to walk into that people get it? Like I actually think of like the higher you go up the government structure. Is there like a room when you walk in? And people just, you know, there's like the profits chair, so to speak. I don't know if that's... No, you know what, Sean, I mean, I go low. What do you mean?

I go in low. I'm not looking like... I'm just a guy. At the end of the day, I put my pants on just like you do, one leg at a time. I guess I don't mean it that way. I don't mean it like of high office. What I mean is that they just understand what you're doing. Correct.

Correct. Yeah, there are those that. are much farther down the path than I am. And it is such an honor to walk with some of these fathers that know the lay of the land that you can share with that they see into your life,

that they bring accountability, that they make sure that I'm, you know, are the different ones around the table. There's a, it's a beautiful thing actually to have those that have gone before us and that are walking with us. us that have been called and gifted for days like this. And they are out there.

Yeah, they are maybe a little more hidden, but they're out there. Is there anything else you want to make sure that gets said before I let you out of here? You know, it has been my honor to be able to join you. And, you know, I know this is a real, you know, going out on a limb and a real stretch for you to have a guy like me on, on your, you know, on your platform. And I actually see that how you're being positioned, you're only getting started. Your voice is going to only get much bigger because of the boldness and the courage that you've had to lay things open. like you have. Well, you know, I'm certainly some people will be put off because it's it's talking about

Christian prophecy, right? Like certainly from that standpoint, right? But like I look at some of the guests I've brought on over the course of 500 and whatever we're at 40 some episodes and I'm like, I don't know. This is a it's different certainly. but like I've had people come on and where I'm like man I was I'm something I don't know what that was right and you fit more of that than let's say even Steve Holmstrom coming on and just talking or you know but once upon a time I had Joshua Allen on the cowboy preacher and he sat in here and you know he was like if you want to release it and I'm like if I want to release it what are we talking about here it's getting released like I mean uh We have to talk about things that make us uncomfortable. This makes me uncomfortable.

I don't know where I'm at with all of it. And that's okay. You know, like, it's like, well, what was that? I don't know. But I don't have to all of a sudden go screaming at the top of my lungs, nor does anyone else, right? Like, people, if people love it, hopefully they share it. And if they don't love it, that's okay. Hopefully they, you know, they share it too.

I don't know. Like it's like at this point in time, we've been forced fed so many different things. It's like there's a whole. whole bunch of us that have been walking around not realizing that there's these conversations going out. Yeah. It's like, you know, when you think back in the olden days and prophets, it's like, it was there. You read the Bible. It's, it's there. It's like, oh, hmm. Yeah. Well, how do I feel about that? I don't know. But it's an interesting conversation. I don't know, you know, like the fact you're talking about, you know, for the conspiracy nerd or not, you know, like Project Looking

Glass, the fact you bring that up is like, hmm, that's interesting because like we've all dabbled a little bit on that one. If you haven't, go dabble a little bit and you'll be like, huh. I guess I never looked deep enough into it, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so as we continue to walk, you know, I mean, in humility and in grace and honor for one another, you know, I think we're going to see, I mean, we're already seeing it room after room as we traveled. I mean, they're driving three, four hours to show up to hear what's going on. And their resonance. when they see this wall kicked down before, you know, between the, you know, I'd say the secular and the sacred, when they see that wall, you know, kicked down, that when you look in Canada's history, you know,

I mean, we're founded on, you know, Judeo-Christian values, which have been largely, largely diminished. And God is not going to let that go. And our nation will not be forfeited. And so we may we all find ourselves obedient to those things that he's calling us to in our own lives. And each of us making that little difference or big difference. Oh. Yeah. I look at it.

You know, you look, you know, this beautiful land coming up today. I said, we're driving up. I love Canada. You see the big fields and the grain and the cattle. And I said, you know, you look at these combines. You know, every part in that combine is important. you know, to get that cropian. You know, which bearing aren't you going to grease?

You know, because one bearing goes down, you shut down the whole show. And so, I mean, as people, may we all find, you know, our place to function to the best of our ability, laying down our lives for one another. And John, I'll tell you, you know, we will. And I am laying down my life for, you know, the likes of Grant and the ones we run with and for the nation.

Well, I appreciate you coming on and meeting you, you know. Anytime I get to do this, because I don't know how we would have done this over, you know, online. And saying that, you can do it, but, like, to sit in person and get to meet you, shake your hand and everything else, just appreciate you coming in. And I'm very curious what the audience is going to say on this one, you know? Me too. Like, you know, like, you know, because I mentioned your name a couple of times. times. And some people have definitely heard of you. Some people have never heard yet, right? And I

would say there's going to be a healthy dose of Sean's out there that had no idea this was coming, right? Right. And then they're going to sit and chew on it and go, hmm, that's a lot there. Either way, I appreciate you doing it in person because it's always better and I don't know how we would have done it any other way. Yeah. Thank you so much. It's been my honor.