Shaun Newman Podcast - #554 - Scott Marsland

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Family Nurse Practitioner who is one of the founders of Leading Edge Clinic alongside Pierre Kory. Together they have been treating vaccine injuries and we discuss the patterns they are seeing and remedies they have been using.  Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastE-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] [phone] – general sales line, ask for Grahame and be sure to let us know you’re an SNP listener.

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delivering to your farm, commercial, or oilfield locations. For more information, visit them in Hancockpatroleum.com.com. He's been a registered nurse since 1997, a family nurse practitioner since 2014, and one of the founders of leading edge clinic alongside. Pierre Corey. I'm talking about Scott Marsland. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Scott Marzlin. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. My pleasure. Nice to meet you, Sean. Now, I'm going to start this, well, I mean, start pretty much all these the same way. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about you. You've come very highly

recommended. So my shout out to Seth for helping move this along because I, you know, without the lovely work of my audience, sometimes I, I'd never get put in contact with a whole host of different people, including yourself. So I can't speak highly enough about some of the people that listen to this and help out and act as almost booking agents for me, you know, at times. It's fun, yes, absolutely. In saying that, if I don't know who you are, chances are a huge host of the audience doesn't know who you are. So I don't know where you want to begin, Scott, but please, we got plenty of time,

long or short as you want to go. Okay. So I am an American. I live in New York State in lovely Ithaca in the Finger Lakes region. And I am a family nurse practitioner. I've been in health care for about 30 years. And up until the pandemic started, I worked in the emergency setting. I actually worked in a level one trauma center in Syracuse, New York.

and, you know, it was really crazy when things got underway. I personally had, in retrospect, I had COVID, acute COVID in February of 2020 because Syracuse, New York in the trauma center was a very urban location. We had a lot of international students. And I worked there through August of 2022. I not knowing better, not having fully interrogated it, I actually got the first two Pfizer shots. And the first shot, I don't know if you know that there's bad batches, but there are.

About 5% of the batches are responsible for 90% of the injuries. And that's not a number I'm making up. That's from the federally reported vaccine adverse event. system that we have here in the States. And the first Pfizer shot I got was the single worst MRNA vaccine ever made ever, killed and injured more people. And yours truly got that one. And also the second shot I got was a bad, bad shot.

So although it took a while for me to figure this out, I'm vaccine injured. And I learned about things like Ivermectin back in December of 2020 when I saw the person who would later become my practice partner, Dr. Pierre Corey, testifying in front of the U.S. Senate. And my wife called me into the room and said, hey, you've got to see this guy. And so I watched his Senate testimony in 15 minutes in. I was like, that guy is going to the mat. He's risking his career, his reputation. He is his test. His testimony was so riveting. And I literally, I took a $100 bill and I went down to the local Agway, which is basically a farm supply store.

And I bought a case of horse based. And I took that twice before I got my shots. And I'll tell you that while today, if it's at all possible to take a human medication, I would take a human medication instead. but if I had not taken that, I would be dead. I guarantee I would be dead because of how injured I am. So in August of 2022, I left the emergency department. I went to work for a local health department as a temporary job for a couple of months, which was just bizarre because I was counseling patients, family members in the community

that were being told to keep their kids home from school because they were infected. There were a couple of instances where I counseled people on the side. Like, hey, listen, there's actually things you could do to get better faster. Safe repurpose things. You could take vitamin D. You could take melatonin. You could take quercetin. You could do povidone iodine nasal rinse, right?

And I actually got in trouble for doing that. like the last day that I was at work, my supervisor was like, hey, Scott, you can't do that. Not allowed to do that. So I thought, well, it's probably good that I'm leaving at this moment. I went to work for a state facility, which it's not one of my proudest career choices, but I needed a job. So I went to work at a juvenile detention facility, basically a prison for bad boys for a couple months. And then the governor of New York State, Hockel, decided that she was going to mandate the boosters.

By that point, I'd figured out that I was vaccine injured, and I was like, well, there's no way I'm getting a booster, so I'm out of here. And that just happened to be around the time January of 2020, sorry, I got the times mixed up. I left the emergency department in August of 2021. So January of 2022 is when, Dr. Pierre Corey decided to open up a telemedicine practice focused on prescribing medications for people

who have acute COVID and also treating long haul on vaccine injury. So long story short, I ended up getting hired to work with him, which is a thrill, you know, because it's like if you were a John Bon Jovi fan and John Bon Jovi's manager called you and say, hey, you know, John Bon Jovi heard of you and he thinks you might be a good thing. songwriter and he wants you to like fly to his home in Paris and hang out with him for a while and write songs, right? So I got to I got to work with this person who I just respect so much, admire. I think he's a patriot and a hero. And so now we've been at this. We ended up becoming practice partners. I actually see most of the patients and the practice where I did up until we hired

another MP. And I would assert to you that in North America at this moment, there's fewer than a couple hundred practitioners that have a good idea what they're doing in treating long-haul vaccine injury. And I think that Pierre and I and India Scott, MP that works with us, I think we're among the best. I think we know a lot. And that's in the context of a very, very, very, very complex collection of symptoms, a syndrome, where we have zero, not only do we have zero guidance from the government, we have a lot of obfuscation from the government. So I think that brings us up to the present moment, and I think it's worth saying I have family in Canada. I love skating on the Rideau Canal.

Some of my favorite performers are Canadians. I hope we get a chance to talk about that. And some of my most heartbreaking, complicated patients are in Canada because it is so painfully difficult for Canadian citizens to get competent, compassionate care for long-haul and vaccine injury. Well, that's how you come to my purview is listeners can go back to Seth and McKenzie. Bloom, McKenzie was the goalie who took the shots to go play high-end hockey, got vaccine injured, and along their route found yourself and Pierre Corrie and have had a lot of success through that.

They speak very highly of what you've been able to offer. And, you know, I don't know, the podcast gets pulled in strange ways and we've been able to share some stories that have been too, I don't know, surreal. sitting on this side and it sounds like Scott you got a bit of that on your end you know I just want to ask this from a doctor's point or maybe just in I don't even know you took horse paste before you got the vaccine and you're sure that saved your life why would horse paste why would ivermectin let's take out the horse paste I'm making fun of myself right now why would the Vyvermectin before you got the vaccine help keep you alive?

So it's at this point, I'm obviously willing to openly admit that I used a veterinary medicine. For a long time, I was ashamed and I wouldn't have shared that with you. But now what I understand is that that's not something I should be ashamed of. It's something that all of the doctors that have ever cared for me should be ashamed of. I'll hop in and just say this. I had Peter McCullough on here one point in time in the middle of COVID when they took away all Ivermectin. Yeah. And everybody was buying.

I'm in a farming area. So there's the veterinarian Ivermectin everywhere. And I brought him on to quell that. Like, no, you shouldn't take it. And he said, oh, absolutely you can take that. I went, oh, crap. right and we just it just went through the mood so you don't have to feel any shame on this side Scott um i have some uh horse ivermectin sitting at the house right now and uh i don't think

there's too many people listening to this i could be wrong and the audience will let me know that uh are are at all worried about what type ivermectin you've taken because our government wouldn't let you have any of it so yeah so what what we knew before the pandemic uh was that Ivermectin, which had an original purpose of treating parasitic infections and was used to safely treat almost 4 billion people over a period of 40 years, also had studies before the pandemic demonstrating that it had antiviral properties, right? And what I know at this point, what I say to patients is, okay, we know Ivermectin has an antiviral capacity. We know it's anti-inflammatory. We know it's immune modulatory. We now additionally know from a very large study of more than

100,000 people in Brazil two years ago that people who have stage two, stage three chronic kidney disease actually see resolution of their chronic kidney disease from relatively brief use of Ivermectin. So contrary to the propaganda, Ivermectin actually can resolve chronic kidney disease. And we know that from the same study, we know that people who have fatty liver disease. So contrary to the messaging that it harms the liver, it actually resolves liver disease. And we know it neutralizes spike. We know it promotes autophagy. We know it stabilizes mass cells, all of which is lovely. The primary reason I use Ivermectin these days in a addition to all those great reasons is that ivermectin is incredibly useful at limiting the microclotting

that all of us have, right? So this is one thing I'll assert clinically. When we check the blood of patients vaccinated and unvaccinated, like we all have microclotting. We all have microclotting. And on a scale of zero to four, say that one more time. We all have microclotting. matter where you stand on vaccination. Sadly, it doesn't because of shedding. So we've got really interesting things to talk about. So let me just finish what I was saying about the algorithm. No, no, I just wanted to make sure my brain heard that right.

Yeah. Okay, carry on. So there's receptor sites on platelets and red blood cells. They're called CD-147 receptor sites. And the spike protein will hit those. It's kind of like the doorbell to your house. It hits the doorbell. Something happens inside.

The dog barks. A pizza is delivered. You go and get your wallet. Something's going to happen inside when they ring the doorbell. When Spike triggers the CD-147 receptors of platelets and red blood cells, they aggregate. They may activate. So aggregate means they stick to each other. Activate.

Platelet goes like this, right? And six other platelets. In addition, there are three receptor binding domains in fibrenogen. Now, fibrinogen is kind of this ropy. sticky structure in our blood that helps wrap around platelets and red blood cells and make a clot. So when I'm trying to heal somebody from microclotting, I'm very interested in blocking the spiked impact upon platelets and red blood cells and fibrinogen from promoting clots. And we see that people who are on ivermectin resolve their microclotting faster.

Okay. So yes, so we're all microclotting. You want me to talk about that? Yes, I do. So talking, we're having a fascinating. I never got the shot. You got the shot. We both got what you're talking about.

Well, now I'm interested. All right. Fire away. Yeah. So there's two words that didn't exist before the pandemic, really. One was microclots and one was turbo cancers. And they are intimately related, unfortunately. So, you know, before the pandemic, if you injured a blood vessel, a capillary vein or an artery,

there's a chemistry involved where there's basically chemicals that are released from the damaged blood vessel and they they trigger clotting right because your body you don't want to bleed your body doesn't want you to bleed to death and so it creates a clot that stems the bleeding from internally from that wall whether you've got a cut on the outside or an injury internally and fascinating thing about those those clots is that they have the internal enzymes that will clean up the clot. It's called Adam TS-13. And it's kind of like you're a dad. You have, when you had a young child, you could see that something they were going to do

was going to make a mess. But you wanted them to enjoy themselves and have fun. you may have gone and got the mop and the mop bucket and made some sudsy water and also got in the dustpan and the broom because you knew you'd be cleaning up the mess, right? So when we have a clot, our body installs the mechanism that's going to clean it up. So atom TS13 will, if a clot happens when it shouldn't, it gets rid of it. If it gets too big, it trims it. If it's been around too long, it dispatches it, right? But these clots that are formed because of the spike protein, whether it's from getting sick

with COVID or whether it's from the vaccine or whether it's from shedding, they have something in them called amyloid protein. You can imagine it's almost like latex. It's nearly indestructible. And the body doesn't have an easy, innate capacity to break them down. top of it to make matters worse some of us that had acute COVID developed antibodies to atom TS-13 so we have studies that show this right so there's people who were acutely ill in the ICU and they measured their atom TS-13 level and they're like oh they don't have as

much of this enzyme that breaks down cloths and they're like oh they've got antibodies to it right and so one thing that's different about these microclots is they've got amyloid proteins which make them very hard to break down. And then another aspect of them is that they are tiny. And they don't end up in your veins or your arteries. They primarily end up in your capillaries. Right. So this is why you go to your conventional doctor and they check something like a D-Dimer, which is a test that evaluates for clot breakdown. The clots aren't breaking down. So there's no debris to measure. Right. Now like, okay, well, we'll do a vascular study. We'll look at how blood's flowing in your veins. that doesn't give you any picture of what's going on in the capillaries, right?

And they're like, okay, well, we'll check your oxygen saturation, because if you've got clotting, then there's probably not as much oxygenation. Well, your red blood cells, and this is what we see with microclotting, red blood cells are doing a great job of carrying oxygen. They just can't deliver it because the capillaries are so filled with debris that they can't even make their way into the capillaries. Okay, so why would unvaccinated people have microclotting in addition to vaccinated people, right?

The first thing is the spike protein is able to directly and indirectly provoke clotting. That's the first thing, right? The second thing is something that we've known about since long before the pandemic is this dynamic of shedding, right? So there are these tiny little vesicles called exosomes. You could think of it like this. You could think of you've got a loaf of, you've got a bunch of dough,

and you're pinching off little pieces of it and making little dough balls, right? So on the outside of the surface of your cells, there are these things can attach, right? So like spike can attach. And the cells try to get rid of that or dislodge it. And they can package it up into these little exosomes and say, you know, get off of me. And then they travel in your bloodstream. They get to your lungs. And you know on a nice cold Canadian morning when you're breathing out outside and the mist comes out,

you can imagine there's like billions of tiny little particles in the breath that you see in the air. right. Imagine that those particles are exosomes. So somebody goes and gets a vaccine, especially in the couple weeks after they get the vaccine, but it continues ongoing. The the spike is a toxin that's a poison. The body's trying to get rid of it. We're trying to sweat it out, poop it out, pee it out, breathe it out. We're trying to get rid of it. And so people like me that are vaccinated, we continue to breathe out exosomes. And those exosomes contain lipid-covered nanoparticles, spike, and spike antibodies. So now the character of respiratory aerosolized particles is such that they will often remain suspended in air for like two and a half hours, right?

So worst case scenario would be you and I get in a car. I come up to visit you and you say, I want you to come, I want you to come visit me in Ithaca and we drive down to Ithaca, right? And it's like a three hour, four hour trip. We're in the same car. It's really cold out. I put the ventilation on, so it's recirculating the air. So that entire trip, I'm breathing out and you're breathing in. I'm breathing out exosomes.

Lippoccurred nanoparticles spike and spike antibody. You're breathing it in. And as soon as lipid covered nanoparticles get into your system and spike gets into your system, they can provoke clotting. Okay. What can one do to test for some? that's your thing. So in the United States, there's pretty much one place that we can go to, which is the office of Dr. Jordan Vaughn in Birmingham, Alabama. Jordan is, honestly,

he's a bright and curious internal medicine doctor who's on the right side of history. And he became really curious about microclouding. I think he is the national expert on microclothing. And he built his relationship, he has an ongoing relationship with the two world expert researchers on microclotting. It's Dr. Pretorius in South Africa and Dr. Kell, Doug Kell in the United Kingdom. And so he's learned a lot from them, including how to evaluate blood, how to stain it, and how to do something called flow cytometry, which is basically looks at how the blood is flowing in relation to clotting. So he invested a big chunk of change, at least $100,000 in an electron microscope. He learned the staining technique. And in our patients, we get them to draw what's called a blue top.

Any medical professional listening knows what I'm talking about. It's a particular type of blood tube that's used to do coagulation studies. And we overnight it to him in Birmingham, Alabama. And he loads it onto his electron microscope. and he puts a stain on it. And then afterwards, he comes up with a result. We have actually had a patient in Canada that achieved this. It was something of a heroic effort.

I'm just going to show you a picture of what I'm talking about. But they took the blood to Calgary Airport and you got overnight. So this is what the studies look like. So on a scale of zero to four, that's a three out of four. that's a three out of four. Amyloid, fibro and microcloths are. I don't even know what... You've got me speechless because I'm like, okay,

what this does is it puts us all back... On one breath, Scott, I'm like, I mean this in the best possible way, folks, but this is positive. And the reason that is, is because it puts us all back in the same boat. Because here in Canada, probably in the United States,

probably anywhere in the world, they put us into two classes, and they made us fight it out. And, you know, and certainly we've moved on from COVID and a lot of different things. With this, it's like, oh, yeah, I don't, you know, like, we've seen a ton of people injured by the vaccine. And the first question always is, you know, now you see somebody with cancer, you see somebody with, you know, some disability, you see, you know, just on and on it goes, you see a death, it's sudden, you go, oh, they must have been vaccinated. it. But this pulls us all back in the same boat all over again because microclotting, you know, if it can be anyone, not to put fear in anyone, but at the same time it's like, well, one should

probably be paying attention to that so that they can better understand where they're at with their body. The fact that Canada, there's no way to do it, does not surprise me. You know, like I go, Canadians already know this. You know, like we have a horrific time finding doctors willing to talk about this. So that's why when you're suggesting, I guess I will talk to a doctor to come on and hear what they have to say. In saying that, you might have gained a whole bunch, like Jordan Vaughn might be getting a whole bunch of calls from Canadians trying to get their blood sent there. Because I'm sure there's going to be a lot of people wanting to explore that because there's a ton of people who are unvaccinated and listen to us. you know and i would be remit well i'd yeah i i i don't know if i put a ton of thought into

like certainly i'd heard about the shedding i just you know as time goes on and we get further away from you know i think it's what is it folks in alberta 3% of people are getting boosted right now maybe less i go like we're we're moving away from this is there a period of time where i no longer have to worry where people who are vaccinated no longer have to worry let's assume they got one of the you know, 90 plus batch, 90% of the batches that weren't fatal. Is there a point in time where they get to just be like, okay, we've made it past here or no? Short answer is not yet. One of the things that we check in our practice is something called a spike antibody dilution.

Again, something that you can't get in Canada that I'm aware of. We're not in the way that we're doing it. So, you know, a spike antibody dilution from an immunology perspective is an antibody test. It's an IgG. So ITG is a long-acting antibody versus IGM, which is a short-acting antibody. So to take Epstein Barr as an example, right, if you are exposed to Epstein Bar, which leads to mono or can lead to mono, right, and you check a person's blood, if you have. elevated IGM antibodies, that's a sign of an acute infection. If you see IGG antibodies, it's a sign of kind of long-term immune response to the infection. So more than a year ago,

we started checking IGG antibodies, spike antibody dilutions on patients. And we use LabCore. I don't have any financial interest in Lab Corps, okay? But unlike Quest, Quest gives you a measure between zero and 2,500. In Canada, the best I've ever seen is a measure between zero and 800, but generally you get a thumbs up, thumbs down in Canada. It's like, yeah, it's positive or it's negative, right? Not helpful at all. The test that we do with LabCore gives you a measure between zero and 25,000. And we use it as an indirect measure or a proxy of the amount of spike in someone's body. Now, here's where it gets... Higher is worse, lower is better? Yep. In fact, I have a nickname for the group of people that have it above 25,000. That's the

25,000 club. About 10% of people who got vaccinated and boosted have a level above 25,000. And typically a robust symptom burden to go along with that. Now, part of what gets really interesting here is there's some having studied this right having treated more than I mean we've treated 4,000 patients but I have that lab value on more than 500 and I have about 2,000 data points right so if you took someone such as yourself who isn't vaccinated maybe maybe you don't have a lot of experience being shed upon by other people you know you're you're basically, you're podcasting, right? You're not, it's not like you're a nurse working at the bedside. And so what I would expect to see for you would be a spike antibody level that's, say,

100 or 200 or 500. But what I saw was that there were some people who were unvaccinated who had spike antibody levels of 5,000 or 10,000. The highest I've ever seen was 15,000. And that is shutting. Right. And the best example I can give to you is a patient of mine who is a high school band teacher. And imagine all these vaccinated boosts at high school students who are blowing their exosome-laden breath through trumpets and trombones and tubas and clarinets and flutes. And he's standing right in front of them conducting all day long, right? And even though he wasn't vaccinated, he was hoovering up their exosomes. And he looked more like a vaccine-injured patient than any vaccine interpatient, right? That makes like, you know, it's funny.

I remember when shedding first got brought up and I was like, can that set a thing. And, you know, like to hear you talk about it, I think I'd already had acknowledged it was a thing. But even just the musical class example makes, I think to most people makes a lot of sense. I think for myself in the audience, you know, it's just you think we're getting far enough away from COVID to be like there's nothing to worry about. You know, like there's nothing to stress about when it comes to, especially if you didn't get the shots, especially if you didn't get the booster, you know. But in your mind, you should be taking steps to just make sure that you just make sure that you just. don't have any issues because I assume Scott if you can find out oh you have a little bit of microclotting or all your your levels up then you can approach your you know you and Pierre in that

group and be like hey here's some things we can do to pull it back down and make it so it's not a big deal correct yes so first let me tell you one more piece of dark news and then let we'll sprinkle some light here okay um when this latest round of boosters started rolling out, we saw something that we've never seen before, which is that people who previously tested with a spike antibody level of 100 or 250 or 450 or 650 before mid-September, they started retesting first week of October, second week of October, first week of November, their spike antibody level shot up above 25,000. Now, these are vaccinated and unvaccinated people, but they did not get a booster and they did not get sick with COVID. What happened was they

spent some period of time around one of those 3% of the population that got a booster, and it was so potent, the impact upon them was so profound that their spike antibody level shot them up above 25,000. Now, I have lab results on a dozen patients now and counting where we've seen that. So that's, that's the big deal, right? That, in terms of standard deviations, that's at least 20 standard deviations away from the mean. Like, that's just, it's really hard to kind of get your mind around it, right? Okay, so what can people do? One of the things that I think is really useful to help kind of move beyond fear and negotiate this and think because it's hard to think when you're scared, right? There's a lens or a construct, I'm going to call it, the four Ds, density, duration, draft,

and dimension. Have you ever heard this? So this was something that I heard about from Pierre long before I met him because he wrote an article in 2020 about masks. And I actually, I started a sub-tech recently because I'm trying to share this information to a broader audience beyond just our patients. So density, how many people are in this space, right? It's just you in the studio and me and my office. So low density. Duration, how long are we going to be here? An hour and a half, maybe.

Draft. How's the air circulation there? So I have a vent in my room. I've got a window next to me. Like if I needed fresh air, I could open it up. Density, duration, draft, and dimensions. How big is the space? Like the room I'm in is like 20 by 10 feet. Now, we're headed into the holidays here, right? So there's a lot of different situations that people can think about. So you go to an old cathedral in downtown Montreal. Isn't there Notre Dame in downtown Montreal? I think I in there. High ceilings, big space. So not a lot of people go to church these days. So you go into a service and huge space, there's 50 people. So density is pretty low. Duration, the service is going to be

like an hour. Dimensions, 100 foot ceilings, draft, relatively benign situation, right? opposite of that is being in a car. Like I joke, like, if you're in a car of someone, you might as well have sex with them. Not that I'm... There we go. He's making a joke, folks, and I'm looking up the cathedral in Montreal you're talking about.

There you go. There's what you're talking about. Yeah. Big space. Sorry. Sex in the back of a car. Gotcha. So it gets...

I mean, last time I was in Canada, it was like minus 40. So I'm not going to have the heater running without circulating the air, right? Otherwise, it's never going to warm up in the car. You're close, you're really close to someone, right? You go on an hour car trip, you're rebreating the same air. And I can give you examples from my patients. For example, I have a patient in British Columbia was doing really well.

He was able to return to part-time employment overcoming the severe brain fog and cognitive issues. And then what we figured out was his mom visited with his, her sister-in-law, who had just gotten boosted the day before. They got in a car, they went in an hour car trip. And this is where we get into secondary shutting. She came home. She shed her son within 24 hours, rain fog, cognitive issues, right? To the point where now he's like, I'm not even sure I can do my mom. my work again, right? So when we're thinking about holiday gatherings with family, which brings

so much meaning to our life, right? Density. Like, am I going to have like the 30-person supper that I normally have or am I got 10 people? Duration, right? Are we going to be here all day? Are we going to watch a hockey game? Or am I going to invite people over and, you know, it's going to be two hours in and out, right? Density. Density duration draft. You know, can I set up a HEPA air filter? I love, one of the things I love about Canada is your building codes, right? You guys have ERVs, energy recovery ventilators. We don't have those in the States. I mean, you build these really energy efficient homes and there's a way of bringing in fresh ventilation. So the indoor air quality in Canada tends to be better than in the States. But still, you know, can you

open up a window, is it a warmer day? And then dimensions, can you pick a bigger room? Like, let's not have Christmas dinner in the kitchen. Let's move it into the dining room and do it buffet style, right? You catch my drift. How do you operate in the world knowing all this stuff? I have learned a lot of tricks. Hopefully, I will be able to share some of them with you here, right? For instance, you know, we, we breathe. in and out through our mouth and our nose, right? And a lot of shedding land, a lot of what we experience through shedding lands on our mucous membranes. And so if you know you're going to go out and be, and I'm going to show you something. I don't, I don't have any financial interest in these things,

okay? But this is one example. This is a product called Enovid. It's a nasal spray made in Israel. it's pricey. It's like 40 bucks for a package. But when you squirt in of it into your nose, it stimulates nitric oxide production, which is viricidal. It kills 99.9% of viruses. And there's some evidence that it's helpful against the spike protein. So before I go out and go shopping, squirt, squirt. When I come home, I use an over-the-counter mouthwash act. scope or crest. It's got something in it called Settle Parodydenium chloride that helps its antiviral. You know, if you go to the FLCCC Alliance, there's a Canadian version of it, but I'm thinking of the American version. There's protocols there, which are quite, I think they're incredibly informative and useful and practical, right, which which teach you about things. that you can do, things that you can get over the counter in Canada that are safe and they're antiviral, like, and things that you can do, like vitamin D, keeping up a high vitamin D level,

melatonin, it's antiviral, it's mass cell stabilizing, quercetin, which is antiviral. Those are all over the counter, right? If you get into contraband ivermectin, and you take ivermectin on a regular basis, and you're really cooking with gas, right? So, yeah, there's more to say, but that's a quick snapshot. Well, it's just, you know, sitting in, you mentioned 4,000 patients, you're looking at the darkest part of this, essentially, right, and trying to breathe a little bit of light into it of like, you know,

Certainly, Mackenzie Bloom is one of the stories where, you know, they saw success, right? Like, she started to really recover. You know, there was a point in time there where she was, it was pretty dark days for them. And then started doing some of the protocols with you folks and, you know, and then all the way back to being on the ice and everything else. And so, like, as dark as it gets, you do see some light in there. I guess I'm kind of curious. I'm kind of curious on the patterns you've spotted, though.

You know, like 4,000 people in. That's not a small number by any stretch. And they're all coming to you, I assume, large part on the fact that they took the vaccine and have been injured, would be my guess, or are injured by shedding. I mean, they're not coming to you just to say hello. Yeah, I would say the ratio is like 30, 70 unvaccinated to vaccinated. That's still higher than I would have given it. And I would also say that's about the gender ratio, although as time goes on, we see more and more men. Yeah.

So patterns. Let's go back to shedding. Do you remember Dr. Ruth? Dr. Ruth. She was this, you see, I'm showing my age. So in the late 80s, early 90s, Dr. Ruth was this physician who was a little Jewish grandbrose. mother and so she was very disarming, right? But she would talk about sex.

She would talk about safe sex, right? And people could hear her because she looked like your grandmother and she was so relaxed about it, right? She looked so, she looked pleased with you, right? So I don't think we can protect each other, care for each other, talk about chatting without having some frank discussion about sex. And that has to do of one of the patterns, right? One of the patterns is that spike protein concentrates inner body where we've got ACE2 receptors, right?

So there's a lot of ACE2 receptors in the reproductive organs of men and women. This is part of why one of the most documented examples of shedding is women having dysregulation of their mencies. So women who were postmenopausal start having mencies again. children who weren't yet menopausal start bleeding. Women who are in still having their men'sies on the regular braces gets much, much heavier, right? Where women have miscarriages and stillbirths. And a lot of that has to do if there being all these ACE2 receptors in the reproductive organs. Well, in a man, there are a lot of ACE2 receptors in the testes, right? And I would say that a man's ejaculate is probably the most toxic substance coming out of the body.

Like if you were to look at body fluids and the way that your body is trying to get rid of spike, we sweat it out, we pee it out, we poop it out, comes out in our tears, we breathe it out. And in a man, when a man ejaculates, if you did a microscopic analysis and stain of his ejaculate, I think you would find spike. And Pierre and I both have numerous examples of women who became sickened after they had intercourse for oral sex with a partner and his ejaculate was received into her body. So women who performed oral sex and they swallowed and they developed bloody diarrhea for several months. So part of the message I'm giving you, now I'm an old. fart. Like, I've been married for 30 years. I'm faithful, monogamous, old married man, regardless of what I look like and still madly in love with my wife. We are long past having kids. Like, I'm the last guy in the world that wants to talk about wearing condoms. I don't want to

wear a condom, right? But I think it's a very basic demonstration of love for your partner in this bizarre age that we're living in, that if you're having intercourse, that you shouldn't be sharing your ejaculate with your partner. You just shouldn't. And, you know, we could, it's probably a whole other discussion about, like, what the heck's going on with people who are trying to get pregnant, right?

Like, how do you manage that? Like, I don't have all the answers, you know, like, but I know that when I'm counseling patients, who are vaccine injured or have long haul, especially women of child-bearing age, and they're like, well, I want to have another child, and when am I going to be able to do that? The best that I can say is, you know, right now your spike antibody levels above 10,000, how about we talk about this when we get it down below 1,000, right? Because we want you to have the best chance to have a viable pregnancy

and have a safe, healthy delivery and a healthy child. So when we are together with our partners, holding each other skin to skin, kissing, laughing, we're shedding, right? Which leads to the next thing that I would say is that when we have a person in our family who's vaccine injured or has long haul, one of the best ways that we can help that person is to treat the family, right? This is one of the things we've learned in our practice.

So I have numerous instances where part of how we got a person to recover from long-haul and vaccine injury was we said, okay, mom, dad, teenage brother, each of you needs to, even though you feel fine and say, I don't have a problem. We say, yeah, you feel fine, but you got the shots. or you got boosted and you're shedding and your family member six. So if we actually treat you and neutralize spike in you, he or she is going to get better. Man, what difficult conversations are coming out of this,

you know, like people hearing this? This is going to be some difficult conversations that people are going to be having in and amongst their families all over again, you know, if they hadn't already. Let's go back to sex for a second. Yeah. most people roughly two years ago

plus got both shots certainly there was people that got boosted certainly there are still people getting boosted I get all that are you saying that for people who whether it's both didn't get the shot one got a shot

whichever one got the shot but it's two and a half years ago now are you still saying safe sex is the best way to go about this Yeah. So let me give you some data and another pattern. One of the patterns that I see looking at those 500 patients and the 2,000 data points is that Spike seems to flow more from men to women than vice versa, right? So I gave you that example of the patient in British Columbia whose mom shed on him. So obviously that went from a woman to a man. But, Mostly, we see spike flow from male to female. And so I have numerous instances where in a heterosexual marriage or partnership, the man got vaccinated and the woman didn't. And the man's spike antibody level is above 25,000. And the woman is the person who's acting injured. And you check her spike antibody level. And it's like 2,000, 5,000 or higher. Right. So he's, has a very high level. He doesn't have symptoms for the moment, but she's symptomatic. So that's where it's flowing, right? Presumably because they're still intimate and there's a lot of shutting

going on. If you reverse the genders and you look at my patient couples where the female got vaccinated and the male didn't, the men are like, what's your problem? I'm going to go on cruise without you, literally, right? The female levels 25,000, the males level is like 100. And he's got no issues, right? I don't have an explanation for that. Like, that's where we need studies. That's where we need the governments and our research institutions to actually do their job, to actually do what we pay them to do as taxpayers, but they're not doing it. So you've got guys like me that are, you know, we're collecting data, we're looking at data, we're trying to interpret and extrapolate, right?

There are at least five different labs internationally at this point that have validated that there are DNA fragments in every single vial of the vaccine, regardless of what the type of vaccine was, right? So what we're looking at is evidence that was validated by people that wanted to disprove it. And they're like, oh, darn, you're right. there is DNA fragments in this, right? So what we have is evidence that the DNA from this virus has been introduced into our genome. Like it's influencing our genetics at this point going forward.

And of course, what people like me are trying to figure out is like, well, how do we repair that? How would we reverse that, right? And we're thinking about that. But in the meantime, there is certainly a portion of the population that I would consider spike producers, right? The 25,000 club. Like people who are doing all the things that we know to do, they're doing intermittent fasting, they're taking ivermectin, they're, they're, when they go out, they do their nasal spraying, their mouthwash, and they're limiting their social contacts. And you recheck them over and over and over, and their spike antibody dilution level is still

above 25,000, two years out, two and a half years out. And that's about 10% of the patient, that we see. So unless you're, unless you are able to get a blood test and say, well, this is what my spike antibody level is. I don't think you know. And, you know, part of what's, part of what's really tricky here, Sean, is dealing with the dynamic of many, many people asymptomatic that are asymptomatic, right? And kind of the, you know, I'm a, I'm a nurse practitioner. Nurses and nurse practitioners are generally really good educators, right? We love to teach people how to, how to stay healthy, get healthy, stay healthy, act preventatively. Lots of people, if not, pretty much everyone, if you're not living under a rock, understands hypertension as the

silent killer, right? You can have high blood pressure. pressure and feel fine and then, right, you drop over it because you had a stroke or heart attack. And that's why you need to check it once in a while. And if it's high, control it. I would say that what's going on in the background with the spike protein, with the microclotting, this is my concern, right? Because to connect the dots, you know, in a healthy person with a healthy immune system, metastatic cancer cells don't last very long in the blood. It's like a very hostile environment. It's like taking a newborn baby and putting it outside without any clothes on in minus 40 degree weather. Like that's not going to, that baby's not going to live, right? So metastatic

cancer cells generally that get into our bloodstream are identified by the immune system and destroyed. Now along come microclots, and we've known this since at least May of this year when Dr. Goodyear, who's a holistic oncologist out of Phoenix, Arizona, he gave a presentation at the FLCCC conference in Fort Worth, Texas, going into great detail about this. Basically, the microclots provides safe haven for metacetic cancer cells. So they the metastatic cancer cells can get inside the microclots and be camouflaged from your immune surveillance, and then the microclots can travel to distant parts of the galaxy, right? So this is why we have the new term in our medical lexicon turbo cancers, right?

This is a driving dynamic behind young people in their 20s and 30s who they eat right, they don't smoke, they don't drink, they exercise. but they got shots. And today they're diagnosed of cancer, and a month later, they've passed away, right? This is the clinical reality that I'm encountering. You're putting a lot of things in my, I haven't had an,

and I think this is a good and a bad thing, Scott. You put a lot of things in my brain where I'm trying to get my, normally I can get my brain to focus, you know? And you're, you know, I haven't talked COVID. It's not that I haven't talked it in a while. I certainly have, but I haven't really talked to maybe the leading edge of where things are at in a while.

And I'm sitting here and I'm going, hmm, didn't think of that, didn't think of that, didn't think of that, didn't think of that. And you're pushing on that a lot. And I find my brain going 12 different directions trying to hold on to where you're leading me like a bullet train. You mentioned DNA in all the samples. Yeah. I'm wondering, you know, I'd ask you, when we were texted back, forth. Why is it that injuries in particular manifest differently across the board, right? Some people get the turbo cancer. Others paralyzed. Others on and on and on it goes. Is it because of, well, no,

actually, I'm not going to, why is that? Well, there's a lot of different reasons. The first thing I would say is that each of us came into this with a different level of immune function, right? And, you know, at its base, at the very foundation, long haul and vaccine injury are autoimmune syndromes. Right. And so the best example I can give you is mass cell activation. So mass cell activation or MCAS is something that, If you had surveyed practitioners, including me before the pandemic, I would I would bet that 99% of us would have had, maybe more, would have had no idea what you're talking about, right?

We didn't learn about this in school. But mass cells are this fascinating story. Their story is a fascinating example of evolution, right? So when life on this planet emerged from single cellular organisms, to two cellular organisms. So that was a really long time ago. That's when mass cells showed up. Mass like mass of a ship, right?

And mass cells were tasked with defending life. They were the original bouncers. And they would release histamine. So now you come many millions of years forward to the present moment. And human beings have mass cells that are basically these dinosaurs, these prehistoric creatures in our bodies, and they last two to four years. And they release more than a thousand kinds of histamine, right? And so pre-pandemic, experts like

Dr. Lawrence Afrin, he's pretty much the world expert on mass cell disease out of New York. And then Dr. Tina Pierce out of the UK, who's become another world expert on mass cell activation. Dr. Afrin wrote a paper back in 2020's basically saying, hey, I think that we're all divided into like four different categories of MCAS, right? And the first category, which is like 15 to 20 percent of the population, those are the people that are getting really sick with COVID, ending up in the ICU, getting intubated and dying, right? So God rest their souls. I think a lot of those people were among the early casualties of the pandemic. So then there's the next group, which is people who had undiagnosed muscle activation and they would have grown up having, they would get, they were the kids in class that couldn't

eat peanuts, right? They were the kids that were the kids that were going to the nurse's office for migraines all the time. They were the kids that had irritable bowel. They were the kids that had asthma. They were the kids that had all those things, but never all of them at once. And so there was never a practitioner who said, hmm, you've got all these signs that your immune system is lagging, right? And so then along comes a spider, right?

Along comes a spike protein, and it hyperactivates the mass cells. And because the mass cells last two to four years, boy, howdy. that's quite a thing to deal with, right? And what happens when the mass cells are hyperactivated? Basically, you're like a 10-court pot that's like 9.5 quarts full of histamine. So you used to enjoy your morning coffee. And now you can't because caffeine blocks your body's ability to break down histamine. Or you used to enjoy going out with the guys and having a couple beers and watching the hockey game.

And now you get sick as a dog when you drink. a single beer, right? Because alcohol blocks your body from breaking down histamine. Or you used to love to eat avocados and bananas and tomatoes and tomatoes, and now you can't. Or you used to love to take hot showers, long hot showers, and now you can't because mass cells are focused in one or three places. They're under your skin. They're in your respiratory tract. They're in your GI tract. And you get under that long hot shower and it stimulates your mass cells and it totally blows up the amount of histamine in your body. So that's just like one example. of this entire portion of the population that had this underlying immune

dysregulation that was not recognized or diagnosed before the pandemic. And then the pandemic hit. And a lot of them died. And then a lot of the people who have long hauled vaccine injury, they have some degree of mass cell activation. Right. So that's just one example. I mean, other, yeah. Then at the other end of the spectrum, you can look at the batches, right? I would say I don't even have to go out on the limb here to point to a conspiracy. I can just say that there are researchers who have evaluated batches of vaccine lots, and there is a high degree of variability in terms of their concentration and what's in them, right?

So clearly, some batches had a much, much higher burden of MRNA than others. We know that Moderna had more than Pfizer, right? But across batch numbers, right, across manufacturers, right? we see a high degree of variability, which in its, the most benign thing I can say about that is that somebody had no handle whatsoever on quality control in their manufacturing process. That's the, that's the most benign thing I can say about that, right? When you look at the coming years, you know, there's been a lot of talk. I don't want to put you into speculation or anything like that, but there's been a lot of

talk on, and I'm trying to think of if it was, oh man, I'm spacing on names right now. Gert von and Bosch or, I want to say Mike Yeedon may have said a couple different things, but there's been a whole, you know, you go through the list of characters, just saying how bad it's going to get over the coming years. And I keep thinking, you know, like when young guys are dying or getting really sick, you know, I think of our noon hour hockey group. We've had two guys with myocarditis. We had another guy with a brain tumor.

And you go, well, maybe there's no correlation. And then you say that and you go, but, you know, we all played together for 10, 12 years and we've never had anything remotely similar to this. And, you know, one of the commonalities you can point to is vaccination, right? Like, I mean, it's just, it's pretty, pretty simple. And I know there's a ton of people as things go along and other people get sick. And the first question that's coming to everybody's mind is, well, did they get the shot? Now, you're saying, if I recall, 30 to 70% of people coming in, or 30-70 split of coming into the clinic with, you know, problems.

So 30% unvaccinated, 70% vaccinated. As this goes along, are you in the mindset of what the different doctors said like two years ago, like this only gets worse as we move forward, or do you have you, I don't know, do you see light at the end of the tunnel, Scott? I don't know how better to put it than that. I do. You know, I'm a, I'm a Quaker. I don't know if you've ever known a Quaker, but I mean, you can say it's a Protestant sect of Christianity. Since I was a teenager, I would go to Quaker meeting and sit silently with others and look within myself and be open to hearing basically the Word of God and looking for direction. And I think that at base, I mean, I've been on this earth for 54 years. I've worked in the emergency setting for 16. I've had a front row seat to a plague, right?

My wife jokingly refers to me as a plague doctor. And I still hold on to a fundamental belief in the goodness of human beings in the in the innate intelligence of human beings. I think that the, unlike Darwin, survival of the fittest, I think that the reason human beings survived is because of cooperation. You know, we used to be creatures of prey. If you look at the fossil records, right? And the way that we got out of that spot was working to each other.

And this is not PAP, right? I'm midway through my career, I became a union organizer, and I understand painfully, deeply, how hard it is to organize a group of people to identify the action that we're willing to take together to overcome our fear. And I understand that while we can be grateful that there's people out there in the world like Dr. Malone and Dr. McCullough and my partner, Pierre, that are leaders, individuals, right? Individuals are not going to get us out of this, right? Because individuals can be eliminated, right? What can't be eliminated is the group, right? And I, in our practice, am able to trudge up that hill and come to work every day because the vast majority of patients that we see we're able to help get better, get better.

right and the longer that we go on the more that we understand the more that we're looking for safe cheap repurposed ways if not free ways for people to repair the damage that's been done right and i think the obstacle like the biggest thing in our way is is getting the message out, right? 0.0.0 is to stop the shots and we haven't been able to stop them yet, right? It breaks my heart that in my in my county here in Ithaca, the health department is still sending out messages saying pregnant mothers, babies, come in here, we'll give your shots. Like I, to me, it's criminal. It's immoral, but it's still happening, right? before we go, I would love to make a couple more very practical, actionable suggestions for people

about what they can do to protect themselves. Certainly. And just so this is on the record, folks, Scott Marzland is coming back on in 2024. Because I need to digest everything you just said. And then when I do that, I'm going to have a thousand questions that I'm going to want to follow up with. And I assume the audience is going to have that too. So just in your brain, in the new year at some point, you're coming back on because this has been a quick hour. And my brain is trying, I just call it a bullet train.

I just need to go back and re-listen to it all to try and digest some of what you're saying. But certainly practical. I'm all four things people can do. So the simplest, safest thing that anybody can and should do, is make sure that you have a higher than normal vitamin D level, right? So the normal, quote unquote, normal vitamin D level is like between 20 and 50 nanograms per decilator. We have an abundance of evidence from the pandemic. And your Canadian doctors have been handcuffed.

Some of them have been de-licensed for saying what I'm about to say. So the Mounties can't come and get me as far as I know. They can come and get me, Scott, but they, you know, we've been, we've been spouting a lot of stuff that, like, what did I, just had the premier of Alberta on and what did twos tell me the other day, that they, they called me a, oh, it's one of those small fringe podcast. And I said, oh, no, wait, a small fringe anti-vaxxer podcast. I think it was something like that. I'm like, well, it's not that far off. I'll take that, I'll take that, I'll take that loyble and carry on. That's, that's a moral side you want to be on. So, so vitamin D, um, um, especially in the northern climes, right? The older we get, the less we make, a person who has a vitamin D level that is below normal has a very, very high chance of being seconded by the spike protein, whether it's from the virus or the vaccine. On the other hand, a person who has a level above 50, I often counsel my patients have levels

above 70 and 90, and I know your GP is going to say, oh, that's going to cause kidney stones or make you toxic baloney, right? And there is a free app available online. It's called the D, as in Douglas, the D-Minder app by Dr. McCola. And even if you can't get your GP to order your vitamin D level, use that D app, D-Minder app, you put in your height, your weight, your age, your geography, latitude, longitude, and you start increasing your daily dose of vitamin D. And over time, you will get.

get into range and that is that it will help protect you right another thing before you hop away yes okay vitamin D is there a specific form that's better than others I've always heard you know don't take the pills or take the pills don't take the pills take it in solution is there is there one you're like this is the best way to get your vitamin D so so basic principles Vitamin A, D, E, and K are fat-soluble vitamins. So when you take them, you want to take them with food and fat, so they're better absorbed. Second thing is, you know, you need a prescription for D2.

You're not going to be able to get that, I don't think. Inexensive and high quality wins me over. and I don't have any financial interest in it. There's a company in Bellingham, Washington, called Seeking Health. They make an olive oil-based vitamin D that for, I think it's like $25 for a bottle that's practically a year's worth of vitamin D, and it's yummy. It's got a nice peppery, exor virgin olive oil version. So I think that vitamin D drops are eminently practical.

especially if it's an olive oil. Will kids take it? Well, it depends on whether or not you've got kids who are foodies or not. If they won't, then you could work on a capsule. I'm just looking for all practicalities here. Seven, six, and four. They may just gulp it down. They may look at it and go, I'm not put my nose up to it.

I'm not taking that. But vitamin D, especially up here in the north, you know, where like, I just think of myself, I've been in this studio all day long today. And when I step outside, it's going to be dark, you know? I'm like, I'm getting zero vitamin D, right? Like, I mean, so, no, that's appreciate the different ideas because, once again, practical ways to, you know, it's one thing to say, hey, go take vitamin D. It's another thing to say, oh, actually, here's some options.

and you can enact this on your life tomorrow if you want. Yeah, and the deminder is free. And so I consider de-minder safety tool that I tell all my patients about, right? I don't want patients who get so gung-hellow about vitamin D. They have a level that's 125. So definitely anything that's above what is considered normal by your GP, it's okay. It's not going to hurt you, right? The other thing I want to say because I went hard and heavy on the microclouding and I don't want people, I want people to be able to think.

And if you're scared, it's hard to think, right? There is an over-the-counter therapy called natokinase, N-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-S-E. Now, if you're allergic to soy, it's not going to work for you. If you've got mass cell activation, it might be problematic because it's, you're, you're allergic. made by fermenting soy and fermented things are harder for people of mass activation. And the last caution I would say is, if you are on blood pressure medications or you have a lower blood pressure, you should be measuring your blood pressure every day when you take it because what it's going to do is it's going to rejuvenate your blood vessels. And by the way, it's going to give you the most

perfect blood lipid profile that your cardiologist has ever seen, right? Forget about it. Forget about statins, your HDL is going to be high, your LDL is going to be low, your triglyceryzeries are going to be low. And all that's before we even get to why I'm suggesting it, right? And the reason I'm suggesting it is natokanez of a dose of 4,000 FU or 200 milligrams twice a day is something that will neutralize microcloths. And it also crosses the blood brain barrier and breaks down spike. right? And, you know, one of the concerns that people have around taking high doses of vitamin D is, oh, well, it's going to promote calcifications along my blood vessels. I need to take vitamin K2 with it. Also, I want to tell you that if you're taking natokinase along with your vitamin D,

that's not going to be an issue, right? Because basically natokinase will remove atherosclerotic plaques from the lining of your blood vessels. It'll rejuvenate your blood vessels. It will improve your blood pressure. And probably over time, you might find yourself taking a supplement and no longer having to take your blood pressure medication. While you're addressing your microclots

and while you're addressing spike in your brain, it's kind of a win, win, win, right? And anybody who's got questions about the safety of natokanez, what I say is, the Japanese have been field testing natokinase for 2,000 years. Right. They've been eating slimy, stinky, fermented soybeans for 2,000 years. It was until 1987 that we figured out that this was the active ingredient in it. And if you look at Japan, what you see is people who are 80 years old, they don't have dementia, and they're physically active, and they're

still loving each other. If you catch my drift, right? Because the blood vessels are healthy. Well, Scott, I've really appreciated you giving me some time today. And like I said, we're going to have you back on. There's no question. As soon as we get done here, I'm going to harass you to give me another date in January so that people can listen to this, have the holidays to be with family and friends and everything else. And then I'm sure there's going to be a thousand questions come, which is totally fine. And we'll line up another time to have Scott back on and give us some ideas on a few different things that I'm sure the audience is going to be all over. Either way, I appreciate giving me time today and being so open about your story.

some of the things you guys are working on and seeing.