Shaun Newman Podcast - #556 - Military Roundtable 1

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

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Combined, they have 54 years of Canadian military experience. They were both members of the Princess Patricia's Light Infantry. And combined, they did tours in Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. I'm talking about Chuck Pradnick and Jamie Sinclair. So buckle up. Here we go. This is a long extended welcome to the Sean Newman podcast with these two Yahoo. Kicking out my night back?

You know, you didn't even give it to me. I did. I slither across the cable. This is how it's going to be. I slid it across the table to you. Did everybody hear that? That said sliding. So Earl Wally, okay, he wanted to be the unofficial silent beverage sponsor of the Veterans Roundtable.

Nice. Earl? Earl? Earl. Yeah. So that's who purchased the bottle of Jameson today. So I thought that was pretty cool. So he...

Now, Earl, if I imagine you're listening to this, from one veteran that, that... cares about people in this country it's nice to see the appreciation coming back and thank you very much real merry christmas errol appreciate it Merry Christmas happy new year yeah well it's um when this releases it'll be between Christmas as i've been kind of preempting I don't know if they care or not but certainly uh I was just saying I've been rattling off uh podcast like nobody's business uh this week and so next week you guys come out after after christmas chucks porn very generous glasses of so are you making me drink the first one with water or do I get do I get to have my my my my patented ice okay Earl could you text Sean and just give him a little heads up like

there was more water than ice in Scotland oh oh I'm a nice guy so this is Irish this is Irish whiskey isn't so you so you come in you come in here and so both of us would you would you like to read the bottle would you like to take us he's he's giving me this this I'll drink it with a straw I don't care well I'm nice and mine You could pour this on the dirt and I'll eat it. But still, in Scotland or Ireland, it doesn't matter. There was way more water than there was ice. So they would mix it with water, not fucking ice.

I tell you what, when I go to Scotland, I'll drink it like the Scots do. How's that? Here in Canada land, we have more ice than we got water. Hey, there's lots of fucking Scottish and Irish in Canada. And I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure ice is made out of water. true but there's a thing called temperature yeah that well yeah that affects that whole process yeah well cheers cheers hey cheers here's to uh your goal sounds like it's gonna be achieved million yeah fucking proud of you buddy i was i was here fucking how many years ago with uh henry um what a beauty he is well

that's got to be 2021 doesn't or or beginning of 2022 is right before you're still you're slugging around down the province selling oil shit well that's true actually that is true you guys all put your fucking glass down and you didn't drink minority yeah but did you tap on the on wood drink can didn't fucking see oh it's my first scotch all right cheers and just so you know that that is to commemorate all the the people that are not with us and it's important to do that so please bring that into your tradition you you want to know something funny not not that I appreciate that You know when that episode released? Yeah, we wouldn't have recorded it at this time.

It would have been recorded just before. December 27th, 2021. Wow. So this episode will release. Christmas is Monday. It'll release on December 27th, 2020. Wow. That's crazy.

That is crazy. So that was the first time you were on the podcast with Henry. So showed it to Henry, too. Henry's a beauty. He is. I think we met about a year ago, roughly, rough, I think. Now he's going to make me luck. And you probably know this already, but you forget a lot of stuff.

But Sean, Sean was at where I used to work in the secret office. And he's like, do you know a guy named Jamie Sinclair? And I'm like, fuck, there can only be one Jamie Sinclair. And he pulls up your phone number, it called you. And I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, that was hilarious. It was a year after. So you were 21 and you were December 19th, 2022.

Yeah. Almost a year ago. Almost a year ago on the button. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Small world, eh? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's been, it has been a ride, you know, like, well, I just had the premier back on, you know, and that's, that's it. Well, I just listened, I was telling you, I was listening to that on the way up. And I can't get over every time I hear her speak, how grateful I am, we have her. Not only, but I mean, notly, I mean, let's be realistic here, would have been a disaster again. but her but having Daniel Smith over anyone like you listen to her talk about plastics and oil and I can't even remember the word she was using but she actually understands the process by which stuff is made true and then manufactured and distributed and the following effects and she's talking like how entrepreneurs are taking the waste

product of different things and making those profitable and that's the difference between her mindset and pretty close to every other political figure out there right now, other than maybe a Trump. And I don't want to, there'll be people out there, well, not our people, but people. I'm a Trump guy. I'm a Trump guy, too. But she understands that you move an economy forward by entrepreneurship and people actually being innovative.

And you take the person she was talking about, I think you guys were talking about Gibo and how Gibol. Gibol. It'll just be government mandated. It's not, let's not give him any credits anymore. No, no, no. He needs to go. He needs to go.

He's possibly other than Freeland, the most dangerous politician. Oh, Freeman's terrible. Let's not talk about her either. Well, I mean, you got a name. Well, we can talk about him, but that's not a username. But, I mean, they have to go.

He's... I might argue with you on that, just a smidge. I think he got to use their name. I think people need to know who the heck these people are. I don't mean... Well, I get it. But it's like talking about Manson or talking about, like, terrible murderers.

Like, they do shit so that they're lived on forever, right? Like there's a certain point where you just got to like don't even mention their name. We know what they've done. We could talk about them. The only problem is is they're in positions that are like literally trying to rail like just tear down everything. Who how do you how do you get like how does Trudeau go, yeah, this is our guy. Because he's like he's being handled. Because he's getting shoulder tapped.

Well, totally. He hasn't made a decision. I don't think he's probably made a full decision himself since he's been in power. he is completely handled and puppeted. He probably picks out his socks every morning. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.

Actually, that's a maybe. His wife left. I'm pretty sure she repartnered because of the socks. You know, like, what a great term. I'd never heard this term before, like, repartnered. Can't wait. She just recycled them. Like, I had something cool going back to your, to your thing about being entrepreneurs, right?

So how about maybe I'm saying the company wrong. Have you heard of this Aspen? deal where they can take garbage and basically break it down into molecules. And so they can basically recycle garbage dumps now. And this is like... Who is this? Jeez, it might be a company out of either like Alberta or Saskatchew. Here in the West.

Here in the West. Yeah. And I don't know nothing like really about them other than whatever like they're advertising and they're on the news in Saskatchew about how they can like go to a garbage dump and basically like melt everything back down into and it separates the whole whatever's going in there so your plastics go with the plastics and your papers go with the papers and then they can recycle everything like nothing it's no different than anything if there's money there entrepreneurs will figure it out but that that's the thing the government's got to get the fuck out of the way I agree and and stop like getting it

in the way every time somebody's wanting to like do something like let them do it either they're going to fail or they're going to like prosper and it's going to be good for everybody it's it's not just getting out of the way it's stop putting up extra roadblocks at this point i mean you don't in the way a roadblock this is a bit off off kilter here but one of my i love watching uh jeremy clarkson's farm show he's got two seasons of it and um he's he went from never having farmed in his life to full on farming and having grown up in a farm background derry cattle and we're in the West, it farms everywhere. I know farmers all over. You guys know farmers all over. Um, watching him farm in the UK, I did, I had no idea the restrictions

they're under. And I mean horribly restrictive restrictions just to farm. It's, it's, it's, you can't do it. It's in, it's literally impossible to make a profit farming there. And then we are slowly, you know, we talked to Daniel Smith and she mentioned cow burps. It used to be cow farts. Now they can tax the other. end of the cow and cow burps and she brought that up when you were talking to her and i i just kind of chuckled and i immediately thought of clerks and like like this is where we're at in canada's we're going to tax cow farts and cow burbs well that's the methane well i mean uh that's you were talking about that the other day but and relating it to oil but i feel that they're going to like

go after well they're going after they're going after they're going after they're going after agriculture cattle farmers everything that's where the methane park is comes in there fertilizers I mean and guess we're all the fertile most of the fertilizer comes from mother Russia no it's coming from Saskatchewan there's a lot in Saskatchewan no we're the largest producer we import a shit ton we don't report any fucking Russian no way you're telling me that that we've got the largest potash fucking I'm telling you right now we have the largest oil reserves I think in the world after maybe maybe the Saudi stuff yeah

And we still import oil. Oh, yeah, because fucking Trudeau's family is buying it from Saudi. The phone's listening to us. Canada imports from Russia of fertilizers with $191 million during 2022. $191 million. It's not because we don't have it. It's because somebody's getting their pocket line by doing it. We don't need to import nothing.

Look at the soft lumber trade. We actually import and export stuff. We don't need to import at all. So a funny story about that, Chuck, a good army buddy of mine that was going through university, Paul Gillard, which is like a big wig up north now. He works for Nortel. He was going, and he's doing business through the University of Regina

and like this for joining a regular army, I was still in the reserves in. Anyways, he's writing this paper about import, export, all the shit and how the country needs to do this. And I'm like, Paul, fuck, we don't need to export or import anything like if anything people should buy everything from us he's like no no that is now it works so anyways he fucking thought about it and then he did his paper where he was fucking like looking into writing his paper i don't know exactly what happened because back then i used to

drink a lot but anyway so uh um yeah he we we had i remember like these great discussions we'd have about if canada just did not import anything even if we didn't import anything or everybody in the world would still have to buy from us because they need what we got or we're resource rich yes but i mean like look at we always we always go why is the east coast still on um Basically, being subsidized? Yeah, but heating fuel, right? Diesel, and you go, well, why? Well, because we don't have a pipeline going out there.

Why don't we have a pipeline going out there? Because Ottawa won't let it happen. Quebec won't let it happen, right? There's a whole bunch of things going on over there that they don't want from us because it hurts what they got going on. And whether that's government or probably more realistically, whether that's old families, big business. That's a bunch of bullshit, though, because we could drop a gas line in the bottom of the St. which Quebec has absolutely no control over and pop it up in fucking the

Maritimes and produce and transport gas going around Quebec. If us three got control of this country for a year, we'd have a pipeline across it in a year. Oh, fuck yeah. And the way we'd go. And like on and on, but I was chuckling while you guys were talking because I had to pull it up just so I could read it to you, okay? You say we need to get out of her own way. In Alberta, in good old Alberta, we have a minister of service. Alberta and a red tape reduction of Alberta.

That's Dale Nally, Naley, whatever his name is. We have a minister of red tape reduction. That's how much blippin' red tape is sitting in this country in general. That we have a minister. We're paying him somebody to go around and try and cut red tape. Well, he's, like, that is red tape. They did a study about that in Saskatchew.

Red tape on red tape. So they wanted to reduce the amount of, like, roadblocks that the province puts up for businesses, businesses to get into business. Well, that actually, it just shone a huge light upon what's going on. Like, I think in Saskatchewan, there's like over 120,000 different rules you've got to follow

to be a business. In Canada, it's in the millions. Like, like the amount of shit that these people, like, that figure they got to do something to earn their paycheck, they come up with a bunch of crap. And it just puts a big toe cold on our ability to be a country that can move forward and people can survive and be wealthy. It's almost like wealthy is a fourth letter word.

Like, I don't get it. But yeah, like the amount of restrictions that not only the federal but our provincial governments put upon us is ridiculous. Well, I think that at this point, if we didn't have Danielle Smith, I couldn't imagine the state we'd be. in we'd be playing COVID theater again. Um, well, not we, not us guys, but I mean, there'd be people full on playing it. It's, you look at they were, they'd read hired Henshaw. Like they, they were so confident winning. They'd rehired that Muppet.

Thankfully, I just, I, I, I, I'm, I sometimes forget how fortunate we are to have her and then you hear her speak and it's, we just, we dodged such a, funny on, on, on my side. I'm, I think, you know, if I go back to the first time

I had her on, what a year does, you know, trying to be, uh, um, almost sure yourself because I really like Daniel Smith,

but she's now in a position that she can fuck over anyone's life in a heartbeat or make things better. Mm-hmm. So like, we have to hold her to the fire all the time

because she needs to move and continue to do things. I, like, her going to COP 28, I'm like, she comes back speaking on the language. I got a lot of,

I have a hard time with some of that. Because I'm like, they're literally doing things that are going to make industry in my country, like where I live and this province and Western Canada slowly dissolve. And we think over the next, she goes 2050, they say 2035, some say 2030, whether you're talking seven years or 27 years. That's less than a lifetime. And what they're trying to do is get to carbon neutral and all these crazy. It's like, well, what does that mean?

well it means a whole lot of EVs and if there's no gas power vehicles what happens to the oil industry and everything else and you start to think about that and you're like and then you look at all the EV technology that's out there and sure there's some good stuff there's also some complete and utter BS right all we got to do is point to

Eminton with its transit system with the buses right like I mean it's just it's a horrific so it's like it doesn't look like technology's there but we keep talking like oh yeah by this time it'll be there it's like hmm how about we incentivize it, but let people be people and businesses be businesses. And if it's there, it's there. And if it's not, it's not. And I hope she's going to find that balance. I think she

will. I think she's working on it. I like how she stated that she was about to do a thing. Her caucus said, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's maybe go this direction. And she acknowledges like, okay, I mean, you know what, they were right. I don't expect her to be perfect. I just expect her to. No, nor do I. No, no, do I. And she's probably going to screw something up where we go, what, what the hell are you doing, Danielle? I have no doubt, but that's not going to make me stop being, you know, unless she... Well, we live in the best problem. Right now, and I, I am a Saskatchewan boy at heart, but right now, Daniel Smith is the best premier in, in Canada, not even close.

She brought up stuff like, you know, we're, okay, we're going to get, we're going to try and reduce oil type things, but she goes, we drive on oil, like the roads are made out of oil. Yes. All of our products, basically, are some sort of oil. But go back to Shane, Shane Getson. conversation where he talks about Germany, right? And you go, they're going down this road of like renewables and everything else.

And they're driving their economy into the ground. So if we continue to speak the language and go down that way, that's what comes. Yep. And so it's like as a leader, I don't know, you go like, you go to COP 28. Does that mean you're all sending one of the green insane asylum people? No, I will not be that the one to say, but you come back speaking the lingo. we got to cut that out. But let's look at, like,

because Saskatchewan went there as well, and everybody was all up. Almost a million dollars to go there. But guess what? Like, that's, like, for the booth was like $500,000. I agree. Okay, so do you want Gibbo or whatever to fuck that guy's name is representing Saskatchewan in Alberta there?

No, we got to spend the money and get over there and say, listen, we develop Saskatchewan developed carbon capture. We developed this. We developed that. We got the cleanest way of developing and supplying oil to the world. Like Canada's got to showcase what we can do for the world. Haven't we been trying to do that and it hasn't been more? You got this club.

We have the opposite of that. We have the opposite? At the federal level, what we have is these school teachers. And I'm just saying their mentality about your Giebos and your Freelins and they're up there lecturing the world about how they need to do a thing, whereas we should be showing them, this is how we're doing a thing. And by the way,

we tax to live and shit out of these people at the same time, because that's fixing it. Hang on now. Hang on no. You guys are telling me that by us going to Dubai wasn't a good fucking thing. No, I think it was. He's saying it. You're both saying it is,

and I'm saying that we've been trying to say, that we're doing it the best, we're doing it at the cleanest. This has been the message for five years, and it seems like it's failing. Guess what's changed? Guess what's changed in the last fucking month, that Yemen is now fucking blocking oil from coming into Europe.

Okay, they're not getting it from Russia anymore. They can't get it through the Suez Canal. So where the fuck are they going to get it from? Venezuela? They came. They came over. Germany literally came here.

Yeah, that was two years ago. That was a year that's in the last year. year. Yeah, but but guess what? Lots has changed in a year and now they're going to come here with hat and hand and go, okay, you don't have natural gas for us, but how about some fucking oil? And it's, that could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Like at, at some point, Trudeau can't go, oh, there's no business fucking case for us selling you oil. I actually think he will continue to do that. He will. And I think that the only thing that's the only thing is changed. But our guys down there telling the Europeans this is what we can do.

Guess what? When fucking we do have a change of government, that shit's going to be fucking full on. We want your oil, we want your natural gas, and there'll be pipelines. My guess is Danielle had about a billion behind the doors. Yeah, well, that's what I'm hoping. That's the question I wanted to ask is, like, what's the most important, whether or not you could have answered it? No. What's the most important meeting you had?

Because I look at it and I go, I'm not mad about them going. I do wonder if they needed to take 100 people there. Oh, yeah, I agree. I do wonder if Saskatch would need to spend a million dollars there. Okay, so here's the thing about... But once again, that's government. And government spends, you know, to us, a million dollars is a lot. To the government, it just seems like it's $20.

So you've got 100 people there. Like, so you got a booth, right? Like, you got a Sean Newman booth at a trade show? Are you not going to hire some good-looking girls or some young kids around? I'm going to hire you two with a case with a great Western. And Jamie will come with like, you got any beer? I got some bud life with pamphlets like hey come to the Sean Newman fricking you know like so those hundred people they're not sitting there on the beach they're ripping around to other

pavilions they're they're going in and out of different areas and they're they're like drumming up business I hope that's the case I guarantee it is I hope so I mean and and uh Saskatchewan did the same goddamn thing and I'm glad I'm all for it because to me it's it's less about the the handshakes they got on the news. It's more about what they got done behind the scenes. And I'm, I'm very hopeful. I mean, and if, if Trudeau steps in and he will, in my opinion, he'll block the next thing that Danielle tries to do. She is more ammunition. And I mean, you. Well, I know Shane gets in talking about the energy corridors and different things like that. They're working on things. I know they're working on things. It's 2024. A year is a millisecond in, in, in, in world history for, for what's

That's less than a millisecond. Like people are planning for this. Like it's going to fucking happen. So us pumping our tires and showing the world what we can do and it's fucking reliable, like, energy that we can supply Europe. Like this is the nail we've got to drive into. Well, I think there's people trying to drive that, Jamie. The problem is, you know, I think it's 100,000 people showed up to COP28.

And I forget where I read this. So if there's a listener, maybe I'm wrong on this. But it was like 600 people pro-o-o, roughly. That's the numbers I'd read, and I can't remember where I read that, 100,000 delegates. So the percentage of people there that are pro-what-we-do are small. They're there to ram home. We are killing the planet. We need to move away from fossil fuels.

That's literally their message they came out of there. We need to slowly, what was the agreement they made? like slowly transition away from false fools. So while I agree going there and the backdoor deals, because that's the way my brain thinks too. It's like,

how many world leaders did you get to talk to and be like, we can supply you. But if it doesn't amount to a hell of beans, which I assume it will at some point. But right now Trudeau is like, we could have had Germany. We could have had Germany a year ago.

Japan, we could have had Japan too. We can have all these places. And he just kiboshes it. And we go, the provinces are going to go around the federal government. Okay. Well, I see, what I see coming out of that is this big, giant, long legal battle where nothing changes.

I, I, I agree, except I think Daniel's playing the medium game here where Trudeau's gone in a year and a half, you know, two years. The next election. Unless Singh gets out of the way that he's worse than fucking Trudeau. Two years, right? We're, we're end of 2025, right? Yeah. Two years.

Oh, man. Okay, milloseconds. It's, yeah, it is a quick blip in time. What she also brought up the concern me, though, was, what is it, 25, I think she said, or 26, where they want to increase by up to 20% EVs being purchased. Yeah, the way, the way they do it is, is what she was saying was that you take instead of, is, once again, it's no, it reminds me so much of COVID, right? Instead of the federal government saying you cannot buy a gas-powered vehicle, what they're going to do is they're going to force companies in order to meet the regulations, you've got to sell less of these.

So what they're just going to do is they're going to have less on the lot, which means the ones they do have are going to go through the roof. Oh, yeah. And then they're going to have EVs, you know. And if you don't want to buy an EV, that's great, but there's not going to be a whole lot of options. That's what she's talking about. And then slowly the number becomes less and less and less and less until they just have EVs sitting there.

and you go like that's where we live that's that's just a that's a scary thought that's scary it's this is have you have you guys ever heard of Edison motors no okay so how many what how many Canadian EV companies are out there no idea neither do I I know of Edison Motors so Edison Motors uses like they they started off with logging trucks so they put like a three cylinder diesel engine in a logging truck and everything else is electric and they can go for fucking like just think of the fuel consumption on a three three cylinder diesel electric engine or a diesel engine that produces electricity right so now they're doing that for like one ton trucks and they they're they're

solely Canadian company I believe the guys actually army actually that might be a great podcast that might be a great podcast yeah because uh email the fuck guy like maybe Google them right now but Edison Motors like this guy is a go-getter and he's like now like taking um taking orders for his for his half ton or his one-ton truck conversions where you got like a a battery pack you can go battery or you can go um engine supplying uh electricity to the batteries chase barber or eric little um could be could be chase barber He's a younger guy. I don't know his name me.

I've kind of been watching them on YouTube. And they got a good product there. And that's something that fits into our climate, right? Like you're using way less fuel. You're electric. So you got like a regular truck that now is 500 horsepower. It's got 8,000 foot pounds of torque. And this is great.

I don't want to be mandated that when I replace my vehicle, I'm either You won't have to replace your vehicle That truck you're driving But I'm going to have to replace it with either that Or a variant of it At whatever cost No but here's the thing

Chuck If you could have a vehicle That had 500 horsepower The same truck you're driving right now Like instead of buying a new one You spend like A third of the cost on retrofitting your new truck Yeah

With this For sure I'm in Oh fuck But you're But what you're talking about is what Chuck, I think, is saying is like, if I walk on the lot and the EV makes sense, I buy the EV, and I walk away and it's my choice. What they're doing is, is they're mandating the choice.

They're going to just slowly, quickly, fastly, all of a sudden, it's just going to be like, this is what your options are. And the waiting list to get. That's going to change, though, once he's out. Like, that shit won't follow him. I know, but here's, okay, I agree. I don't see how Trudeau stays in. If he stays in, there's going to be a riot across this country.

No, we'll separate. We've got to fucking separate if he's in. Oh, no. There's no way. You won't stay in, but I agree. We'd have to survive. Here's what was agreed to at COP 28. Transition away from burning fossil fuels like oil and coal that are driving climate change.

So you have all the world leaders agreeing, whether they had agreed to it or not, that's what the conference is agreeing to. And that's what they're next year they're going to talk about it again. and the year after you're going to talk about it again and the year after they're going to talk about it again and they're going to continually try and find ways to eliminate fossil fuels. We live in a world that is created on fossil fuels. The way you pull people out of poverty

is fossil fuels. So it's like, while I agree with what you're saying, is there creative solutions where a consumer could walk in and I can look at the law and go, man, that thing makes a ton of sense? Yes. And do I think there's technology there that makes probably a ton of sense. Yeah.

I've had lots of guys on here. Talk about how solar panels down where there's sunlight all the time make a ton of sense for certain applications. Yeah. But not every application. And certainly not mandating. I walk on to a dealership and it's like, here's your options. That's what you get.

The reason, I don't know, maybe a guy should look into the history of like gas powered vehicles. But like, they make a ton of sense where we live right now. And I haven't seen anything that. just blows it out of the water. And they've combined the two. They've created hybrids, which I think make a lot of sense. I think there's a lot of sense made there.

That's where Tyot is going. That's, that's this Edison. And he's a hybrid. Yeah, it's a hybrid. And like it's, like this guy is like ground,

like grassroots. Screw it. I'm getting the guy from Edison on. Edison, I'm coming for it. Why not? Right. He'd be awesome.

Why not? 2024 is. And I think he's an army guy, which is fucking even super cool. Which brings me to my next point. because we just totally just went on a tear here. And one thing that we forgot to do prior to this, Chuck, and I should have done this when we're at the bar earlier.

But fuck you, motherfucker. No! I'm hoping he doesn't have his coin. Well, that's your airborne coin. Okay, so what they've done is they've thrown down. What the fuck is that? That's not a coin? So he flew down the Canadian Airborne Regiment.

That's not you. were never part of the fucking don't have to be i was doing that by ben freakley i don't care you weren't part of the fucking and what did you throw it out so me and my section from the in o six got commanders coins

from you were never part of tent mouth no but i got that commander's coin from yeah i got commanders coins from fucking general i don't no fuck you that trumps your fucking that's your little you put that on the shelf somewhere, motherfucker. So do I get an honorary coin?

No, you got to earn it, motherfucker. I earn it every day sitting across from you. That's what I do. I killed a fucking lot of dudes to get this coin. For a 10th Mountain? No, you did it for our way of life. And you know what's funny is his aid to camp that carries these things in a backpack didn't want to give them to us.

He's like, no, we're not giving them to Canadians. And Freakley was like, I've seen the videos. You know what? Can we call it Willie Mac right now for not being here? He's a C-U. So this is the first ever, okay? He's a cousin. Two military guys.

Is it a military roundtable is a veteran roundtable? Do you have a different name for it? Military's foreign or veteran. Either one. No, no, no. But what do you like that? I'm asking you. A veteran to me is like World War II, World War I.

Like I have a hard time thinking of myself as a veteran. Yeah. Yeah, I would say military roundtable I I don't know We're in a weird limbo though, right? Like we're we're now that I guess era or time frame of it Although I don't see myself that way But I'm not military either I'm retired you're retired

I don't know I don't know what's saying so so the reason I ask is One of Max, Max, uh You guys were here can I tell you what happened So he's like, yeah, I am. Because he's my bro. I got to fucking back him up. I'm trying to tell a story. I can still badmouth him because he's an asshole.

But he like settled this huge contract in Calgary where they never sold any like non-commercial elevators for going up and down into apartment buildings and shit. And he fucking nailed it. So to get it all done before the end of the year, he had to fucking do paperwork. Like he couldn't fucking get somebody else to do it. But anyways, he had to follow it through to the very end.

And, uh, hey, that's how he rolls. And I respect him for that, but still he owes us. He's not getting away from this, Scott Fried. There'll be, there'll be booze that he has the buy. You know, he'll have to fucking, you know, maybe shine my boots or your boots or do something. We're going to, we're going to make a pay. I was hoping he'd be here. because it's been years since I've seen him for one but he's a lot fatter now but

but just his head his head gets fatter every every success it's like how do you get that thing in a door but he needs a shoehorn for his hat but he um but he and I love you Willie yeah love him fagger we were his platoon and my platoon just by coincidence or fate or whatever we want to call it timing we're in a lot of the same battles over there and what's weird about those situations is you never really like as soon as the tour is done people scatter at least in this army because our army is stupid when it comes to that kind of stuff for like retaining people together it's a huge problem but we never got to discuss a lot of those moments I mean immediately after you might have a minute

like after some of the fights we were in we might have moments to be like wait fuck you were here too, dude. Like, oh, yeah, you were here, dude. And, like, those kinds of, you've been there, you know, like, you sometimes you only have, you might fight for a complete day or two or a week in a spot and just, just know that, you know, he was recie platoon and they were beside us, or you'd catch them on the radio, or you'd see them for a moment in a fight somewhere, but to talk about it after, like. Can I, can I give a story that you and Willie are involved in and I was like a bystander, too? Is it Wayne Wright or is it a good story? No, we're fucking fighting in Afghanistan, motherfucker.

So, Willie's batons pinned down in Helman. And it's like, for whatever reason, there's Zulu call signs, which is their vehicles, which were G-wagons. Somebody would not send up the support. Oh, I'll tell you that story after this. For him and his guys in this village. And they're like, they're fucking going to die. one guy's been fucking shot in the plate already

Mars Ghanic Yep Mars fucking saved the medic Like there's this horrific Fucking gun battle going on And they're calling for support Call them for support Well they're Whatever boss would not send up

The vehicles to support them So we get We're an A company We're in Red Devils And our platoon gets called To go support these guys Well conveniently

somebody that that was in my higher platoon thing could not find a way across this river I know Willie McDonald's in that village like him and I are brothers and and to be on the other side that fucking river and seeing artillery explosions and hearing the gunfight like it's like it's some of the most agonized

and you can hear the fucking call for help and everything over the radios and it fucking torments you, right? Like you're actually wanting to hurt your own command because they can't find a way across this river. Thank fuck Chuck and his platoon found a way across. They get into this fucking place and basically saved recidatoon for being annihilated.

And I wasn't there for that part, so Chuck, so just lead up to it for you. We, yeah, like the rest of that, story is we'd been we'd been so we pulled into this monster leaguer at like midnight leagher is like this huge vehicle defensive thing and we'd set them up you know with monstrous standoff standoff is like the distance to engagement right and because we had great night vision and thermals and weapons that could reach out two kilometers we'd set up these huge vehicle defenses and then a few people would

sleep people'd stay up on the thermals and so you were were safe that's the safest place to be honestly because the Taliban would be ridiculous to attack you with that capability so we pick us field in the middle of nowhere this is what we're doing we pulled in late like everybody else was already you know there's hundreds of vehicles yeah yeah well because we were out doing stuff probably um i can sleep and or lost i don't know but so we roll in at midnight and i'm like all right boys let's get we're going to go to ground here we're going to get a few hours rack no big deal we got woken up I got woken up like two hours later like orders we meet at the car we're going I'm like holy now what the fuck so we we get this briefing that we're going to go in

there's six guys who are making IEDs in the next village over like three kilometers away we're going to do a hard knock hard knock like it's just go kill it's there's it's what we preferred doing so we were like okay ramp the boys up and they're like wrecky platoon reconnaissance and Spatoon is going to go secure the area. Like they're going to walk down that compound area where this is happening. Racky had what, maybe eight, nine dismounts or something. Yeah, I'm not sure. Like eight or nine guys on the ground like fighters, riflemen,

dudes that could get into it and a couple of sniper dudes. So we're talking like 10, 12 guys, not a big force, but it is what it is. I mean, us, when we got dismounted, there's maybe 12 or 14 of us. Um, not a big force. Which is another story we'll talk about here in a bit. Yeah. But so we're like, okay, good to go. Recky moved off ahead of us.

We pulled into this little dip in the ground to hide the vehicles and wait for for Recky to say, hey, we're secure. Come on over. Well, Recky gets in it. And within moments, we're like four in the morning right now. And sunrise over there was always like five o'clock in the morning roughly, 435. Same as here. Same as here.

And so it's, they start to bang off right away. Like it's on bad. It looks like, you know, friggin Baghdad at night. There's just green tracer everywhere. RPG streaking it. And on the radio, we can, I'm in the back family hatch in my car. And I can hear on the speaker in the back. I can hear, um, um, um, Hamilton and who is his,

Hammy and, uh, Smith. Oh, Smitty with his, was his, uh, signaller. Yeah. So side stories, Hamilton, Captain Hamilton and his signaler smitty, I think we're the only two guys I knew that stuttered in, in our battalion and bad stutters. Like, I mean, so these guys would get in an argument, be, fuck, fuck you, Smitty, fuck you, Hammy. And then they'd have these back and forth.

They loved each other. Yeah. Just, just so you know, Hammy's a great fucking leader. Yeah, yeah. Just stutter's like, like fucking he's got Tourette's. Oh, yeah. And Smitty was the same. Yeah.

And he was the signalman, which is the weirdest thing. But they did it as like a joke, right? He's a stuttering guy. Put him on the radio. So these two guys, anyway, you hear Hammy on the radio come over and he's like, we're about to be overrun. And he's not stuttering at this point. He's like, fawn calmly. Like, we're going to get overrun if you're not here in a minute.

We're dead. It's, we're being overrun. The force is like 50 strong. And we're like, well, I think six dudes making IEDs. This is like a full on. This is a big force. So we're waiting for the goal. And we're waiting on a certain person to give us the go.

And me and a couple of the other leaders in the back of our cars are like, like, we need to go. Like the boys are, we can see the fight 400 meters away. We need to be in this fucking fight now. And like you were saying, the worst thing you can hear and see is a fight and not being in it. Like, I'll get in every fight. I hate not being in the fight. So, Hammy comes on like a minute later. And he's like, boys, they're honest.

They're going to push us. We're getting overrun. And Derek Thompson, another section commander, me and him look at each other. And we both got our platoon commander's attention. We're like, we're going. We're going. And so he's like, yeah, fuck it. We're not waiting for orders now.

We're going. So we run in. We run in. We drive in through the, um, so the backup. Yep. Jamie had mentioned that these vehicles from Reky Platoon Put your fucking ice in there. Had not had not come forward to help.

I don't want to get too deep into this, but they had somebody who was in charge of those vehicles who didn't want to get in the fight. He didn't want to get in the fight at all. And when we drove by those vehicles, one's good. Thank you. when we drove by those vehicles, there was two guys fighting.

Like two guys, well, you remember Neil Thompson? Yep. Going at the other one who won't, I'm not going to give him air time. But Neil was basically like, we need to get in there. Those are our guys getting overrun.

We need to bring these vehicles up and support them. And the other fella wouldn't. He's a whole different off-air kind of conversation. So funny story about that, that person after the battle was over they realized that there had to be something done

so this person had to go back to the back to Canterhar so they wouldn't all fucking get killed next time so all of a sudden there was a bullet through a radiator that needed emergency fucking fixing back in Canterhar

so that person had to go back with the vehicle so they actually fucking shot his vehicle so fucking that person had to go back he was removed anyway and sent back and all that but yeah he was anyway so we chose what terrible leadership

at critical times but but here's here's the thing and and and Chuck fuck like we like you got all these like great guys that like fucking big muscles and fucking you know the talk the talk

right until shit starts fucking flying around yeah Like the guy that you least that you least expect to do something awesome, he's all of a sudden like the guy. Like it's like, look what that fucker's doing. Right. Because it's once one, once somebody does something, then it just fucking everybody goes. But the opposite is true too. Because we were talking about this when we were having a when we met up earlier today about that one particular guy who I

won't give a maritime either but if you go cowardly it will also infect and we saw him take half his section yeah and it it'll infect that way too but he was that guy that fucking he was so courage is infectious just as coward absolutely yeah it's not even encouraged to me it's i didn't need spectacular superstars although i think my guys were i just needed them to be able to do it every day and show up every day. And, and I knew that I never had to look over my shoulder to make sure they were coming or not going or running. I didn't have to. And nine out of ten times, more, more than that.

I knew that most of the guys there were the same way. I just needed them not to act like that certain guy who said he was a French foreign legionaire. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah. Well, I think John Wayne is what comes to mind. Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Right? It's, it was, it's, yeah, that's courage, absolutely. I, I didn't look at us as being all that courageous. I looked at it as maybe a bit of a mental disorder where if we heard a gunfight going on, it, it tore me apart, not to be in it. But in fairness to you, you hear a gunfight going on over there. You know it's your guys. So you're like, if we don't go, it's our guys getting killed.

Yes. Whereas like, you know, let's say we just hear shots going off right now. Let's just assume. Um, well, that'd be weird, but that just happened to me like fucking three days ago. A good buddy of mine owns a spray foam company in Saskatchewan called, uh, spray guard. And I went to see him have fuck coffee. And as I was walking into his, into his building, there's a gun range like literally right across the fucking river from him.

And somebody started shooting. And I'm fucking instant. Like I'm trying to spin around the face. Like, I'm, I'm wanting to fucking go and shoot, right? Like, you're like, where's my fucking gun? Like, you're, like, you want to go towards that gunfire. Like, and, like, if I was out hunting and, you know, I know there's going to be people shooting, like, it's different, right? Because you're expecting it.

But when you're just like going in to have a coffee and then all of a sudden there's fucking gunfire. And the same thing happened as I was leaving the building. Like, your body's calmed down now. You're fucking not thinking about it. and all of a sudden there's fucking gun fire. You're like, where the fuck's my gun? Like, you're, like, in your brain's going through all the checklist. Like, okay, what the fuck am I doing?

But you've been, I don't know if conditioned is the right word. It is. But as military men, you've been conditioned to be that way. I was reading that. But it doesn't happen. Like, you can condition guys. But like a fight, a fist fight. That's why fighting is important in the Army.

We're at the Smarties in Emmettin. Big fucking scrap. Good buddy, mine John Savage is there. We have like Army guys bouncing the bar. And they're like, okay, guys, you guys are going out the back door. I'm like, fuck that. I ain't going out the back door. I'm the fucking smallest guy there.

I'm like, that fucker, I'm going out the front door. And we went out the front door and yeah, they're waiting for us. And we fucking, there was like 20 or 30 of them and four of us. We fought them. And I learned that from Sergeant Major. Smith when I was in B company won PPCLI. That was our first fucking company. Cater's in the swamp.

Yep. I show up with the fucking black guy. Hey, Sinclair, did you win? Were you fighting? Yes, I was. Did you win? No. He goes, guess what?

Doesn't matter how many fucking fights you win or lose. It's how many show up for it. And that's been beaten into, like, when we went through basic training, that's beat into you. But until you're actually there, like, I'm 145 pounds at that time. Like you're, you just don't, like, you can't walk away from your buddy. I agree. But this is the military versus the hockey mindset.

Both of them are being eroded, I might add it. Can I tell you one thing about your hockey analogy? Yeah. You always compare Army guys to hockey. Yeah, I don't know if it's. I do that too. What was first, Army or hockey? You said Army.

And then hockey was created. Didn't you say Army was first, or military, obviously was first? because, I mean, it goes way back. And then sports are like army guys. Sure. Like, we're cut from the same fucking cloth. That's why I always use, I frequently use that analogy because I've played a lot of hockey. But I also get the mindset of picking up for your buddy, your team, and then.

Your buddy, the Don Cherry mindset. You remember, I remember Don Cherry and Ron McLean. This is why Don Cherry was. He should be our next prime minister. This is why he was such a. fan favorite out west because the mentality the mentality he talked about on the world stage all the way down to your local stage really resonates and that's you're at a bar with your buddies and your buddy does something stupid do you abandon your buddy no all right here we go right that's that's like

in my brain i can already i i'm like and here we go and and the friends you have for life are the ones that always show up when you least expect them or think they should which is meaning when you've done something stupid. I've done something stupid, and now Jamie comes in, and he's right beside you, and you're like, I still have a guy in my brain.

Quentin, this is a long time ago. This is in high school. This is in the gully. And I'm the guy who says something stupid, and he's the guy who comes in right before and ends it all. And I'm like, I don't remember you for the rest of time, and here I am years and years later,

because you remember that things. And that's very much, that's hockey, right? Protect the team. Somebody gets dummied. Somebody gets beat up. Somebody gets run over. Dirty check. You stand up for him.

Somebody touches your goal. You stand up for them. We're tough. You don't have to be dirty. You have to be strong. You have to be tough. A guy gets in a predicament. The whole line brawls.

And I've always really excelled under coaches that bring in them mentality. It makes sense. And that's why we love Don Cherry. Because Don Cherry is a guy is somebody gets in a, and he was using the United States as the example, gets in a bar brawl. You're in it with them. And Ron McClain's, well, you know, and I remember. at times thinking, well, as a younger kid, and then the more you play hockey, the more you're

probably in the military, the more you're like, that's exactly how it is. Like, you know, people are dying, you got to pick a side real fast. You just put shivers up my spine. Can I, can I use an analogy that combines hockey with, like, world events? I'm curious to see what it is. Okay, so you got a badass fucking tough nut crew of guys where somebody looks at you sideways and you deal with them, right? Like, like, there's teams. out there that you don't want to fuck with. Like when you're on the ice, you just want to play a game and get out of there without

being fucking mauled to death, right? So you just, you don't fuck with the bear. Okay? We all know those teams. Yes, let them sleep. Yep, just fucking play the game. Don't hit anybody because if you hit with the wrong guy, they're going to fucking pummel us.

Let's get through this game, fucking unscathed. We'll go on to the next game and live the fight another day, right? Well, that's how governments are supposed to be. so if you're if you're a controlled maniac monster where that if someone fucks with you as a government they're going to like sanction you or they got the military to back it up don't fuck with those guys you just deal with them you try and fucking have an agreement for trade or whatever where we can all fucking benefit from it but once you try to fuck with them then they're going to throw the hammer at you right so that's that's like what the United States

States used to be and they're not like that now and that's why we're in the situation where are in the world is because they're a bunch of fucking paper fucking giants nobody's scared of them anymore because of the fucking bullshit that they're coming up with and there's no teeth so that that's a hockey team how it's how it's how it's how it's practiced it's how it plays the game is how government should be in certain ways. Like you gotta have some fucking teeth and you gotta, you gotta play fair, but once somebody fucks with you, you hammer them.

That's, I kind of, that's what one of the is. That's, that's how I feel. No, it was, I like that. I wished Willie had been here because, like, this fight in Hydeirabad that Jamie brought up, I'd wanted to, it would be, for me, it'd be interesting to see, like from- How do you even know that name?

Like, fuck, I can't, I can't remember shit. He's fucking knows names. Well, they're in my head a lot. But they, yeah, well, I was there too. I don't fucking remember. They, um, they, it'd be interesting, like, from the perspective of where I was in the fight, you know, I know where my boys were and a couple other guys were and, you know, the general where most people, some people were.

But I want to know, like, from Willie's perspective what it was like being just about overrun, you know, like. We'll make them pay for me. be. Well, in saying that, so, so with the Willie, so this is what we're going to do is my goal is to have a military roundtable in 2024. I'm going to say the low side seven times, the high side 12. I go 12.

I think that's almost unrealistic because of summer and everything else. But I look at it and I go, I've been saying this to you guys a lot. The first time you came on, you realize you guys, you two were number eight this year and top 10 downloads of the podcast. Wow. Why is so low? I want to be fucking number one. What do you mean number eight?

Number eight. Who beat us? Wow. Right now we've released. Just so you know, I didn't know it was a competition. I would have brought my A game. Sorry, guys. So you guys were number eight.

Tamara Leach was number seven. And then... Okay, she's a warrior. This past week, we had Dr. Eric Payne and Dr. William Macchitz were number six. And then number five was Jeremy McKenzie from the raging dissident. And we're waiting to release the top four. And the top army guy, isn't he?

Yeah, he was royal. Yeah. Too bad. You should have been in Patricia in case you're listening. I know you know that. You're probably deep down your heart. I bet you, I tell you what, Jeremy McKenzie on a round table now that he's free of some of the things would be a wild, would be a wild. I'd love this in front.

Don't bring no vandues around here. No vandos. Fuck them, fuckers. Useless, yeah. But I mean, again. But just to finish a thought, what I want to do in 2024, I have a, folks, I don't have a plan lots of the time. Like, I mean, I do and I don't. That's what your wife says.

Yeah. But Sarah in 2024, I don't mean to be doom and gloom, but I look at it and I look at it very realistically. We're not getting Trudeau, which means things are not getting. A full motherfucker. They're not getting better fast. Which means we're going to have a bunch of things, Captain. So we have to have our eyes open, our ears open, and we have to pay attention and do things the proper way.

And so we can help prepare people. If there's things to learn, let them learn it. And let's have on some expertise. But we got to talk about some things. And so one of the things I want to do is have a military roundtable once a month. So I say seven to 12, because I'm like 12, oh, man, you know, since I've had you guys on, I've actually been very fortunate to have you guys close to once a month. between the two of you, I mean, honestly.

But in the 2024, military roundtable, we're going to try every month. So Willie doesn't make it. Well, Willie, you're being called out for January. Let's go. Let's have it in January. Hey, you better have your play set up with some free booze and some beds, and then you'll get all kinds of army, guys. He can, well, we try to build a studio in 2024. He sets on the agenda, too.

Guns. We need some guns. We're going to have some fun with you. specifically you but I mean regardless with the Willie thing Willie you're getting asked on for January 20 24 let's go the you bring up 20 20 24 and like you just said not to be all doom and gloom I'm not being I'm being realistic I'm just looking at it realistically I think this is going to be a very telling year I think we're not just at a world scope but we can talk with the world in a minute and fix all its problems but you can feel it this year going to do even Christmas shopping the

atmospherics are completely off. There's no, everywhere I went to do my Christmas shopping and grocery shopping, just being out and about in general, things feel down. You talk about Christmas, I'm going for a pass. Yeah. Things feel just down. They're not where people are, are a little down in the dumps right now. There's, there's, the economy is horrific.

People like mortgages and rent. through the roof. People are losing homes now. And here's the thing. It only gets worse. It's getting worse. So 2020, 2024 doesn't get better.

No. 2025 doesn't get better. Because if you just look at mortgages, like that doesn't get better. Things don't happen quickly. No. Now, you can change certain things. So one of the things,

and I should wait for for Jamie to come back in, but we're going to do, okay, it's loosely titled. I should, well, now, whatever. You find folks listening need to know. In April, we're targeting, I've been away since June. I have not done an SMP presents where I try and put on it because I've been like,

what do I do, Chuck? I have no idea. You know, I keep trying to find like, okay, I should talk about it. I don't talk about this. But I'm like, I don't want to just talk about something. I want to make it so that you come and you can leave with things you can do in your life because that's what I look for. So SMP presents April is going to be ungovernable.

And it's going to be a two-day conference. and we're bringing in people from all over the place to talk about health slash food, security, energy, money. Because I look at it and I go, everything I'm seeing, I'm like, we need to, you know, can we avert all crises coming? And I don't mean like all of a sudden, I don't mean like doom and gloom like we're at war.

I just mean like, look at what's going on financially. Yeah. Like, and there's things you can do. There just is. Look at what's going on food-wise. going to hear of heard scott marsland that interview and they're going to be like holy crap he's coming so it hasn't been released yet so it's hard for me to talk about it right now even though this comes out after but he says some things that vaccinated unvaccinated you need to pay attention to so he's

coming and so in april this year in lloyd minster we're going to be doing smp presents ungovernable and i don't mean it as in revolt against the government i mean it as in the sense of like i think it's time we wean ourselves off of the government fixing all of our problems. They haven't been doing it anyways. We got to take control of some of this. And in 2024, leading on onwards, I look at it and I go like, the future isn't dark. I think it's full of possibilities, but it is full of some rocky waters. And if you prepare for that, you're going to scoot through them and be fine. If you don't, you're also going to be in a little dingy in the middle of 100 foot waves going, how the hell did I get here? And some of that's manageable. Yeah, a lot of it is

manageable and I think it comes down to preparedness whether I like that one of your sponsors right now is the golden silver silver silver gold bull yeah and that's out to silver gold bowl that's always been something that's um near and dear to me for the like the last 10 years I've I've been gathering my little hoard of Canadian maple leafs and one of the reasons I stick to silver maple leaves is that is one of the most recognized coins in that needs. around the world and it's also one of the best finest quality ones as well so wherever you get them however you find them I usually just order straight from the mint or like the sources that get them from the mint I should say but like I

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You've been, all these places. We think it can't be us, but I mean. We're there. We're about to be there. Look at our inflation. Croatia, Bosnia had the world, had the Olympics and four years later they were slaughtering each other. Yeah.

Yeah. So the one of the reasons I like the silver, you know, Maple Leaf is it's relatively an I over spot price is like four bucks so I don't know what it's going for right now, but usually between 25 30 bucks 35 bucks whatever it is depending on where spot price is 38 38 now Jesus so I'd still get it like I'd get it out of its lows and buy and hold on to it I have a lot of it and one of the reasons I do this is because people who were in these places who had a hard metal currency and

gold or silver, silver especially, would then be able to trade that for things. Whether that meant taking a cold chisel to it and chopping it in half and trading half of it or the whole coin or whatever, whatever their thing was, as long as it was recognizable and worth a thing, that didn't lose value. In fact, it went up exponentially in a crisis. So for me, that's something I've always held near and dear. And if nothing else, I'll pass that hoard onto the kids. Well, what I'm going to slide in here with then is, is if you're going to buy silver and gold,

I'd appreciate if you went through Silver Gold Bull because they are signed on for 2024. If you look in the show notes, you can find an email address, you can find their website, you can find a phone number to call, and Graham is dedicated specifically to our audience, which I think is super cool, and lots of people have been doing it. But, you know, if we're going to talk about silver and gold, I think we should mention Silver Gold Bull, which started out of Rocky Mountain House here in Alberta. even better. Like it's low it's Canadian local. We see you're a recie training out there. Great spot. But I think it's I think that's even better that they're Canadian local. You know,

they're obviously they're somebody who understands it. And to me, it's always been part of my preps. Like, and I don't generally talk about my preps too openly because that automatically puts you in like, well, he's fucking crazy. Well, maybe, but I've seen it. I well, literally I look at 2024 and I look at basically I've loosely titled it ungovernable. We need to become all more ungovernable. We need to find ways to distance ourselves from, you know, they just keep trying to add more bureaucracy in a life everywhere. Yeah.

Can I add something to this? Sure. That's more at my level. Sure. Because you guys are up here, I'm down here. Okay, so back in Caveman Day, what was valuable? Like, was cold valuable? Fire.

Yeah, fire, guaranteed fire. Honey, food. Honey, food, yeah. And guess what? Fucking spearheads and arrowheads, right? So Africa to Bosnia to Croatia, if you didn't have gold or you didn't have power, political power or whatever, guess what?

Once the war started, the people had power, had fucking guns and bullets. because bullets can be traded like nobody gives a fuck about gold or until you get into a stable like a stable part where you're actually starting to do trade again when shit goes south you need guns

and you need guns well I'm glad I got this I'm glad I got this sponsor called Provert River how is you think I scheduled this I'd go down there and I'd start buying you don't need lots of guns you just need lots of fucking bullets Right?

And know what? You need some fucking gun slingers and know how to use the guns with the bones. It's funny because Clay Smiley comes on in a couple episodes. And Clay Smiley is like a school teacher who started a gun store out of his garage basement. God bless his soul. And then now he's got this giant, giant store. I'd like to meet him. Yeah, he's a great guy.

Anyways, that's funny. I buy all my guns. Silver gold ball getting a plug and now Guardian or Guardian. Well, Guardian is another one. In Saskatchewan, we get a. proper guns in Saskatchew. We're going to get our guns from Avonlea. Avonlea?

That's where fucking Hugh Brown's from. Avonlea? Yeah. Yeah, that's our, that's like, that's like this guy. You're telling me that the big gun guy in Saskatchewanee is Avonlea? Yep. Really? Yep.

Fucking small little town, beautiful little spot. Our good buddy, Hugh Brown. I droll half. Hey, let's do it. Cheers of Hugh Brown. Hey, Hugh. Fucking God bless your soul. yeah Hugh Brown

anyways that's that's where I go get all my shit but back to preparedness now it doesn't and I should point out well it's preparedness Chuck no no and I should point out I don't mean you have to buy everything through whose sports of the podcast

because there's good people all across this country and if you know the good people go go support them because good people you need like we all want those I'm just being honest like Henry and I we go down there I just have a hard time believing it's Avonlea that that blows me away

you know like three years ago I didn't even realize there was an Avonlea in Saskatchewan. I think rode to Avonlea. Who am I kidding? But they. Preparedness. We've been around the world a few times where we've seen. Shitty parts of the world.

Shitty parts of the world where if they weren't the one, like Bosnia, for example, when I was there in 94, I had a chance to, because we were out in the boonies the whole time, we would talk to the locals that were left in a village that had just been exterminated and say, well, how did you make it when 200 people are in that ditch? And they'd be like, I had a gun. And I got ready to go. And I left in a hurry. And I was able to defend myself till I could get out. And that was, that was the normal story. Can I ask, this is going to be a really dumb question. But you know what?

As we sit here, this is what pops to mind. You're talking about Croatia and Bosnia, right? They host the Olympics and everything. And I, and my brain, I go, you know, when was the last time, like a first world country had something like this happened? And when you say village, I think of like dirt streets and like poor countryside and I just think of, I don't know, I just don't think of any money there.

I don't think of like all of a sudden Lloyd Minster going to war on itself and exterminating people, right? I think of like, no. I've been in cities. You know why? Because they haven't been able to take our guns away from us yet. No, but I've been in cities like that way. No, let's just back up.

That was the question, right? Like, so who's next? Well, there's a reason They keep trying to pull guns. Yes. Like if you are an armed population, so that's what happened to Germany. They couldn't stand up to Hitler.

That's what happened to Italy because they couldn't stand up to Mussolidi. You know, every country that has disarmed their population, the government eventually has slaughtered. Australia. China? Yeah, but you, hey.

Russia. Okay, Austria. Okay, wait. Australia is an island. Okay. Australia is Australia is not bordered by the biggest gun culture in the world

where illegal guns come over the border and they're killing our fucking people in the city's left-right and center when they're trying to take a legal gun away from a law by a citizen when they should be worried about fucking taking the guns away from the criminals and Harper had laws to

mitigate that for criminals having guns first things the liberals did is got rid of those laws. Like, so if they're really wanting to keep gun violence down, well, then go back to the laws that the previous government put into place to prevent gun violence. Like, don't fucking come after me. Because the best thing to have, like, a stable environment with a gun culture that's, that's responsible, which we are, and there's more people killed by kitchen knives and guns in this country and in most countries even with guns there's more americans that die from falling down there's 40,000 americans a year that die from falling compared to 30,000 are killed in gun violence i think i

forget the number in can it's it's insane but i think doctor doctor ineptness has killed or doctor whatever the word is kill something like 28 000 Canadians a year like doctors making mistakes well made made this this last year was 12 000 no i No, 13,000. He's talking about malpractice. I know he's talking about malpractice, but I'm saying made alone. It's 13,000. Now, people will have their own take on guns, whatever they want to think about it.

I've been to Bosnia is a great example where the people who survived had hidden away their guns and didn't let the government take their guns. And the people who basically started the slaughters were the militias, the militias. And the whatever. Why do you say the malicious? Because they were essentially government sanctioned, not quite military, but paramilitary units. And that was all sides, all three sides that did it. So different factions of the government all did.

In that part of the world, because they're conscripts, right? They're communist people. So at 18 years old, you went through fucking eight months. Yeah, yeah. Like, so you went through. military training, right? So, so they knew how to use a weapon. They, you know, they knew how to work as a team, right? So once the, once shit went south, they were like, okay, fucking, you're the best leader when I was a conscript. We got a band together and become a militia to protect our

region of Bosnia or wherever the fuck it was. And their alliance would be with Serbia or it was with fuck in Yugoslavia. And what Tito did, can I go back to Tito? Okay, so Tito was the guy that fought against the Germans for the Russians during World War II.

So after the war was over, what Tito did, because the Croatians were pro Germany and the Serbs were pro-Russians to to stop a divide. He mixed everybody together.

he would like take Croatians and move them into Serb areas, Serbs into Croatian areas. And they eventually married each other and they created this, this, this, this beautiful thing. This harmonized culture kind of thing. Right. Yeah. Guess what happened when fucking Tito died. It fell apart. He was the glue.

Yeah. That held that together. Now, there's a lot of, you know, political science geeks out there that'll have some deeper explanation. But this is what we saw firsthand. And we're told firsthand by the locals, basically. Once Tito died, it all started to fracture. And when it fractured, these militias, well, they don't knew. These power struggling people were like, okay, fuck this.

This is bullshit because we want to be pro-German because Germany's got lots of money. Russia is bankrupt, right? Because money comes into play there. And Germany wants control over that region of the world still. So they're sending their people in there to start fucking turn around. I saw German Merks in there, like big time in some spots. So guess what, guess what fucking is the match to the powder keg was the Muslims. So when the Muslims came in there like 400 years ago, whatever, if you didn't, 600 years ago,

if you didn't convert to be a Muslim, you were castrated, so you couldn't impregnate anybody. In Croatia? Yeah. So the Turks rolled through there 600 years ago. Yeah, right up in the fucking almost in. into France almost. They, they,

they, they almost fucking took over southern. So that's why there's Muslim enclaves in the area because the Turks had rolled through

and it was convert or die basically. So, I mean, there's still a strong population there, yeah. They would impregnate your women, you know,

so people turned to, to be in Muslims so they wouldn't get castrated and have their fucking women impregnated, all that bullshit,

right? So, but for 600 years, they held this grudge. on because you were grief or orthodox and you turned on us fucking 600 years later they didn't forget about that and they fucking slaughtered the Muslims. There's a lot of the Muslims did not fare well in a lot of those areas but it was if you go to but you were talking with the city size when we say village I'm talking it could be

anything from 20 houses to 500 houses I've saw towns towns I saw cities the size of Eminton burnt like basically emptied and burnt to the ground I saw what how many people are in Lloyd Minster what's the pot 30,000 uh they're visico kiss the act any of these towns wiped like those are comparable size towns like these are these are real places with real population. It's funny what Hollywood does to a person because you think of like this like dirty stone mud and I'm I'm here. Using all the visuals, right, from like, probably Afghanistan is probably what I'm thinking of. But like I just, I go, you know, you walk outside, you go, I will never get there. Yeah, I'll never get there. And then I listened to you to over the course of probably, well, it's been a year, tell me over and over again about Bosnia and Croatia specifically.

We're, because they were, they were normal. They were normal. Government would seize your bank account five years ago? Well, I didn't think a lot of things five years ago. ever think you'd be censored? This is why, you know, um, like, like, hey, we're, we're on the edge. Like, we're, we're, we'll pass the edge, honestly. Like, like, like, if, if we keep sticking our heads in the fucking sand, um, we, we,

we won't be able to defend ourselves or have militias to protect our communities. Like you know what they did in areas the areas specifically where I was the ones that didn't have guns knew where the armories were like as every little area has their own armory or reserve unit or whatever they just busted in. Yeah they lost some people getting mowed down by whoever was guarding it but they got in and got those guns then they went on their rampage and like you were saying about how they tried to bring in you know some of these to here and some of those to there and settle them. So if Lloyd, minster is 80% X and 20% or 10% is Y and the other Y, you know, different mix. Those two little populations, they're getting massacred unless they get the hell out and have a gun to fight their way out. With the 80% is going to, and that's what happened. It happened right across the board. Like everywhere I went.

And I would say you're both insane except. Not that what you saw was like to come back here, except we went. through COVID. Yeah. And we saw it. Well, you couldn't even explain this to people. Like, I literally, I, I kissed the act. I don't know if you were in kiss the Akron.

And most people listening, I might, I might just put this in because there will be some vaccinated post people listening going off. I never got to that, but it couldn't happen. Couldn't happen. But we, we watched where the government was talking, you know, like just take Saskatchew, they were talking about, um, we call them internment camps, but they were talking about setting up little field hospitals, little buildings they were going to build to intern people.

They did that. They did that with hospital. They did that with hotels and fucking... We just did it with room service. And the thing is

is if you're... What I might add to the vaccinated person is you were less sensitive to it because you weren't hearing what we were hearing and seeing. I was part of the Army then when they were talking

about those things. And they were going to set up the like our field house for a field hospital and such. And this is before you had be vaccinated to be in your army which I'm not vaccinated so I got pushed out the door but I was in a room with a young battalion commander some young sergeants and I was a put into a leadership position because just by default they needed they needed another guy there and so I

said hey guys I got to have a fucking let you know where I stand behind like I got here's the line in of sand. I said, so I've been to Croatia, I've been to Bosnia, I've seen how like this could fucking go south in a hurry and I know you guys haven't been there. I want you to understand where I stand

right now. So I stand with the people at any time where if the government wants me to be on this side of the line, I'm not going to be there. And you guys should be

thinking about where you're going to be on that side of the line because I'm not saying it's going to go to that but I can see where where shit's going and I'm on I'm on the people side the way. I probably quoted you way too much over the last two years Jamie because when you said the first time you were on two years ago it always starts with a small divide not a big one not like this big rift that's been there on the entire it starts with this small divide And back when you came on two years ago, I mean, geez, we're only a couple months away from the Freedom Convoy.

That terrified me because I was like, well, the divide's already there. I mean, they're already calling people out in papers and they're already saying, I mean, you watch the collage, it's probably not the right word, the video montage of what they do with, and they always do it with the CNNs and the big media players. But you watch what they say, and you're like, man, We were close. Like, we were freaking close until the convoy went.

That's why everybody looks at the convoy and goes, man, then would they get godsend? Oh, fucking right. Because we were getting ready to, like, pull people on the street. We're getting ready to stop people from going into the hospital. I'd had conversations in my life where they were like, no, I think this is exactly how it should go. And you're like, this is insane. So I go, like, where are we sitting out? I feel like we're so far away from, from.

Bosnia, Croatia, if I can throw that on the table. But when I sit and talk to you too, I go, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't sit there and have a few ducks in a row. I don't think we're as far away. What's a year in the history of time? Well, it's not even in the blink of an eye. So that what just passed us was a blink and eye. What's in the future if we're not prepared for it?

And I'll say, so where people will always ask me, well, they'll ask a lot of questions that, What do I do for preps, which I don't really talk about too too much, but I'll say this. I think you should have the means and the ability and then know how to defend yourself and your loved ones. I think you should definitely have a reserve currency, which is to me gold and silver, although I'm a cheap skate, so I always get silver. Silver is just easier for me to buy. I get bullets. I have a ton of lead.

I'm invested in lead heavily. heavily, but all of it legal. The other thing I do is food preps. I'm big into food preps if you can't feed your family. There's an important, it's not a book, it's like a short document called, was it, nine meals from anarchy. And I talked about it before. But you're talking about a book that was written in the United States?

No, no, I don't even know where it was written. It probably was. So look, look how they dealt with food in Somalia. Yeah, and they had all the fucking, they had all the bullets and guess where they took their food from the fucking starving fucking people. Yes, that's what I'm saying. This is what the document basically preaches to you is anywhere in the world, no matter how civilized you are, if you can't go nine meals, three days without feeding your family, you will turn into a complete, rabid Neanderthal to feed your family. Can I? And that's, and that's what I'm getting that is.

Yeah. I got to tell you a great story about a great man that's passed away this July. Paul fucking Springer. God bless his soul. He's fucking looking down upon us. Just a warrior of a man. He's a native soldier. He's in BC going through his German language training.

The guy was smart as fuck. Like this guy dated brain surgeons for fucking female brain surgeons. Anyways. So he's just super smart dude, right? So he's in fucking Vancouver. And he's going to get a toothbrush. He's driving to the fucking mall to buy a toothbrush, right? So the power's out, right?

So everybody in Vancouver, like they're all loving and hippies. And, oh, hey, you go through the stop sign first. And they're waiting, no, no, no, you go through. So it's all civil, right, as he's going to the mall. Gets to the mall, can't buy a fucking toothbrush because the power's out. He's like, ah, fuck. So anyways, is that a boy? Hey, what are you doing?

We're going to drink that. We are. Don't fucking, you're giving me anxiety now. It's the camera angle. Sorry. It's, uh, it's, uh, your sponsor got that for us, motherfucker. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, but it doesn't say Earl Wally.

It says Jameson. They ain't sponsored shit. Earl knows he bought that for us. Motherfucker, don't make me freak out. Toothbrush. Anyway, toothbrush. Back toothbrush. So anyways, that was,

Merry Christmas, everyone. Yeah, very Christmas. So anyways, he's on his way back to home. And at the same intersection where the power is out, now everybody's giving each other the finger. They're fucking, like, cutting each other off trying to get through the same intersection. That was five minutes without power.

People are freaking out. But this is, this is, this is, this is, this is leadership all over again. Like, in, any given day, you as whoever is listening to this, have the opportunity to change the way your day is going to go. So take power, take food, take it. Like, I get it. You go to the extreme.

We always go to the extremes. What are you going to do when people are shooting at each other in the middle of the streets? It's like, well, you better have a plan. How about you going through the McDonald's drive-thru and you get cut off by the guy who's way too, like, because they got the two lanes and you get cut off and like, fuck this guy, right? Little things can just set you off. That's how quickly things can change.

And you need to, like, that's just a mindset change. I don't know. Through Christmas week, I challenge everybody, you're in the McDonald's drive-thru by the person behind you. See what happens. So here's the thing. You just pay the extra $6 or maybe it's $2 and see what changes. And see what happens. Like, you won't see the ripple effect that because that person will go off and have a great day.

There's no person who gets their shit bought for them in the McDonald's drive-thru. that goes and has a bad day. After that, it's like it sets the mood for the day. If we all did that, it's the same thing as quickly as it can go bad. The flip side can go. It can. Here's what Chuck's talking about. And it's about being prepared, right?

So, so Chuck, how many rivers did you have to drive over to come here? Oh, it doesn't. Like, you talk about rivers and creeks and with bridges? Yeah, yeah. So when I'm driving here, I know I got. two major rivers. Like if I got- Yeah, if I got to go back,

like, because hey, fucking, there's eight- you're gonna mess up my plan. There's eight million fucking immigrants coming across the, like,

I don't like talking about shit because, um, I once talked about things prior to 9-11. We had a conversation prior to the Israeli fucking war. I'm not going to go. I don't want to fucking.

carry on but so coming up here i know how i'm getting home not going through fucking battleford or sasketeer like i just know that i'm prepared well it's funny the way my brain works is it in the middle of covid but but before you get into this so when you're in that mcdonald's parking lot and or the drive-thru and you're going through are you right on the ass of that fucking vehicle in front of a goddamn right you're mad right so so as if you're mad if you're mad maybe you are i don't i don't like think i'm right on for sure so to be a prepared person yeah you got you're mad but you got to have discipline you got to control yourself right so you leave a vehicle space that you know that if shit goes south and that you can get out you can get out and that's at

a stoplight that's at a fucking drive-through like you know if you got your family in the car that's right shit goes south you got an accent well you see in the middle and that's that's where preparation starts when I was in the middle of COVID there was people you know like I mean geez we weren't supposed to leave the country now could you leave the country

that's a different story but what I'd planned out I'll tell my plan and I don't like I don't like talking about a whole bunch because it's kind of I don't know this makes me feel extreme is like my wife's from the states and in the middle of COVID I went

if it ever gets hairy enough where I need to get them out of the country all I got to do is get them to the American board she's American I'm the parent I'm the dad across they go whether I got to stay or not so I plan my route out

without hitting any major highways but what I did not factor into that although in fairness I'm like are they going to blow at every bridge on this like secondary route you want the secondary bridges you don't want a bridge anywhere near a city well the thing is is I planned out a route

so I didn't have to hit any of the big cities. And I had it in my brain. I'm like, I don't need a map. I don't need Google. I don't need anything. And after I had that, I'm good. And actually, that's the way I look at 2024. And I don't mean that in the sense of, like, bombs are going off and this is that.

And I, you know, I'm like, I don't mean it in that way. I just mean it in the sense that, listen, things, politicians can say whatever they want. And maybe we catch a break and prices go down. And maybe some things go down. Chances are not. chances are things aren't going to go that way and as we get closer to closer to 2030 specifically I look at the temperature and I go it's going to go up and as the temperature goes up you can prepare and one of the things I've prepared for in the middle of COVID was if the wally this is delicious

Jamie's enjoying the scotch folly is uh if if the Chinese uh I always said if they drop tanks right all of a sudden you said there's a tank on the middle I was always always the door. I didn't, I didn't need to think about going to see it. It was just gone. And I knew the route. Now, one of the things I didn't think about was Bridges, but now you're pointing out that Bridges secondary roads is that, that's a good thing. And if, if that sounds like a crazy thought, because at times saying that allowed, I'm like, oh, that's a crazy thought. It's no longer crazy. But it should be no longer crazy. Because I'll guarantee you 90% of the audience listening right now and the greater audience out there has war game bit in their own head at some point.

And COVID did that to a lot of people and just the world. at general right now the people are watching has done that you can you don't you don't have to say anything with the Arab Israeli War right now or the Hamas Israeli War right now but I'll tell you what you listened I read a ton of after-action reports not just military but the the civilians the Israeli civilians and they're how they prepared and how they were able to escape and survive the ones that were able to from those immediate contacts and they they also in their head imagined they live it every day. We don't and that's a problem for us. And that might

be a bit of a blind spot. That's a huge blind spot for us because we've been to parts of the world where we've seen people live it every day and had to live it with them every day. But those Israelis that survived in those danger areas had war gained if the tank drops here using the metaphorical. Yeah. Yeah. If the event happens here when what I do when then thinking, when this happens, then I do this. When this happens, then I'm doing that. And if you're not using when then thinking all the time, like leaving the car space between yourself and the next vehicle for that reason of getting out of there. Not just that, but never let your gas tank get below half.

And there's many reasons why, but never let your gas tank get below half. If you ever have to bug out in the middle of the night, you think you're going to stop at a gas station on the way out of town when there's no power or the bank machines don't work, your cards don't work. You'd better have a minimum half tank of gas. No, no, because that's where the guy like that is prepping like me, that is a bad guy that has a gun. lots of ammo, that's where he gets all your shit. He shows up to the gas station.

Yeah, you go to where you're, where the fucking, like when you get duck cutting, you go to where the ducks are. And there will be those people immediately. So, but Chuck, just to go back, though, like, like, yeah, the, the Israelis did that, but guess what? We do that. Like, so we can be in Canada and still be prepared like. Oh, we should be, yes.

Yeah, but guys like us do that because we were. At the point of the day. But normal, I can say normal. Regular everyday people. But guess what? Regular everyday people can, if they're serious about protecting themselves and their family, they can prepare for that. They can go to training centers, like a good buddy of ours, fucking J.R. Cox down the

training edge in Calgary. Like, he does training for that shit. What did he do? He basically runs training. like for everything for firearms like back in a day you would do like protection training for your for like protecting yourself as well

I don't know if he does that anymore but JR is an extra army guy he owns the shooting edge in in Calgary he'll train people how to protect themselves of the firearm and and so there's training you can do like you can go like fucking camping

or you can go camping or you can go camping and learn how to survive. You know, it's the same amount of time camping, but you're actually learning how to survive. Even got people need to learn how to garden. We talked with us before having paper copies of medical books, maps is a big one, know how to use a compass, even just basically know how to use a compass. My eight year old son shot a bearing like Willie and I, we, we take our kids camping every year. We teach them army shit.

My son wanted to know how to go to his buddies, So I got an aerial photograph of our campground and my farm and it's got a bit of the town in there He shot a bearing from our house to his house and calculated the fucking distance he's eight years old And his fucking school teacher says he he can't concentrate in school Like he had a fucking he had a root map like 1.4 kilometers to fucking to he's better than most of our officers then if he yeah yeah and at this bearing like he fucking had to figure it out but people people the thing that stops people from the jazz starting prepping Mason's house basically it was going to

Mason's house the thing that stops people from even starting it is that it sounds crazy to do it that's why don't advertise it too much keep your prep secret the other part is it's expensive it can be expensive because people want to get into it for the toys, whether it's the guns or the toys that you can get online or at Cabela's or wherever you're going, you can get all kinds of, there's a whole market towards, you know, prepping.

Well, and that goes back to when we're overseas when everybody else had all that Gucci kit, right? We dumped it down to ammo and guns. Yeah. And water. Yeah. Like, and obviously you're fucking first aid shit. Like I used to be a guy that had all this fucking shit.

The Gucci. Yeah, we all work. And then once you go into battle, like, I literally looked at a magazine in a fucking bottle of water and I took the mag because, like,

you, like, I can go seven days without fucking water, but I might not be able to live seven minutes without this fucking magazine. Like, you make decisions like that. I think in the first world, like where we live,

we, that's probably something we don't understand. And I hope to, to never have to worry about it. Hey, we should do survival shit at your new fucking thing. SMP presents. Fucking right. Hey, you're looking at, and we get Willie McDonald in here and some other boys,

we'll teach you some good fucking gunfighting. You're, honestly, you're not wrong. So, you know, like April, S&P presents ungovernable. It isn't about revolting against the government. It's about how to prepare for the things to come and how to better navigate the rough waters. How many people pay for insurance and never use it? most hopefully yeah

and I expect most you know why not why not have fun paying for insurance that you hope you never use and you would talk

this is the analogy I used with my daughter like 10 years ago or more when she saw the shelves of food and the preps I have put aside and she's like you're talking about you crazy are you like what do we have all this stuff

I gotta come take your food when I'm hungry yeah so she's like you could try um I got more bullet It's a new. I have a bigger dog.

You sleep. My dog doesn't. Your dog loves me because I feed him your food. But my, uh, but I'm like, she's like, are you nuts? Like, why do you have all this stuff? Why do we need all this stuff? You know, the basement's full of your junk. And I'm like, well, if something goes wrong, you're going to eat for like six months

here and we don't have to worry about going to a store for six months. And she's like, well, that's never going to happen. And I'm like, well, the ice storms in Montreal. Yeah. Quebec. I was there and people weren't eating too good. And there's stuff that happened there that would blow normal Canadians' minds if they knew. It's like- Like what? We had to go around like we were like we are, we were a recitative.

We had to go beat up fucking looters. Like we had to restrain looters. No, no. We were like off the like honestly like they gave us like free reign because because they, we would just roll around. No, we were in a fucking. Like we'd have these vans. It'd be like four of us in a van or a debt in a van. We'd just drive them out.

We saw somebody fucking looting or we thought they were, we'd fucking beat that. Like, there would, there'd be violence. Appropriately. Yeah, there'd be violence if they tried to run.

If they fucking came and we talked it out, oh, this is my neighbor's fucking, why are you cutting a fucking chain off his fucking, his, uh, generator. This was normal.

Like, yeah. So, like, if they ran, we'd, fucking give it to him. We went around. Call the cops, the cops and come and fucking arrest them or detain them and then we just

keep rolling. They got to the point where the cops just gave up. Like honestly, there was so much looting, so much destruction. Like, in, in Montreal, I was in Montreal for it. Like, they deployed our unit there. We're in, uh, where, where's that, Oka? Near Oka. Yeah, we're in Eroca.

We, uh, we had an RCMP guy attached to our, our section for, for a patrol and he, He gave up. He's like, Yeah, so this happened in Canada. So, so this is already Canada. This is already happening. So I sit here and I go, this will never happen here.

Guess what? During the flights, during the flights, in, in fucking Manitoba, that shit didn't fucking happen. Didn't happen. Nobody fucked this here before.

Nobody fucked with their shit there. Nobody. They actually depot, is it Emerson is on the border with Manitoba in the US? I think it's Amerson, this town that straddles at Lake Lloyd straddles here. They deployed us there

because they had, rumors that that there were people looting there. So we were like, fuck, they actually, I think they magged us up. Like gave us a whole mag, you know, in case shit went sideways. Not that we had any legal authority to do anything. But we went there with some RCMP to assist them on their patrol, like a presence thing. And there was nobody looting. Like we walked that whole bloody town and patrolled the whole town.

Nobody, the night and day difference between, like where I was in Montreal and all of Manitoba where I filled sandbags and saw the population was completely different. Do you remember when Trudeau showed up there when you were fucking filling sandbags? For the other one, yeah. Yeah. So when Trudeau showed up to the sandbag filling area, there was all, like they shut the whole place down because he had his shovel and he's filling sandbags. This old fucking dude walks up.

He goes, would you get the fuck out of here? We got a whole fucking town of people trying to get sandbags. bags we can't fucking sandbag because you're here for a fucking photo shoot get the fuck out of here and he's trying to reason with the guy in the old man's just like go get your fucking guys and get the fuck out of here but people think things won't happen here they can't happen here that might have been in that might have been in Ottawa actually was that was a different flood or Ontario some I don't know like I can't remember but in Montreal like people were we were one of our jobs for a period of time I was there almost

month and a half or whatever it was, was to hand out chopped wood to cars that came through day and night, 24 hour cycle, they'd come, you'd fill up their car with wood, and they would go home and they were supposed to burn it in their fireplace. Well, people didn't have fireplaces, half of them. And who's got a real fireplace anymore? Very few people. So they'd burn it in like they take their barbecue, which was now out of propane because they'd burned off the propane in their house. And if they didn't blow up and lots of them did, they'd take their wood and burn it in their barbecue and half the

there were homes burning down on the daily because people were in Manitoba or this is Montreal Montreal this was this is where we were like you know but I think so when I come back to the

SMP presents in April one of the things that me in the book club have argued a lot about and I say argue because we this is what we do we discuss things and we like it's like what's the biggest threat we we face here

and the simple answer is well maybe but i mean i mean i i look at it like like a storm comes through that's a natural event that it has nothing to do because it's just it's just a big storm we've had big storms here yeah and all of a sudden you have no heat and you need to have a generator yeah but you can't just roll in a generator and hook it up to your house tomorrow that's not the way it works unless you know have the ability to to do that.

So you go like, what you said to me... Double-sided blood and trip your breaker at the pole. What you've said to me is the people that had the degenerated,

the forethought, they were trying to steal those. And the other people that didn't have it were literally getting given wood to burn on their barbecue to try and heat their house.

But can you imagine? Right? That's what you're saying. So you go, like, one of the things I'm hoping to do here is like, listen,

we face whether any of this comes to be yeah that's that's an art who knows I can't see the future but you look at where we're at and you go well it's starting to lean the probability is starting to lean one

well here's the thing about that so you can prepare for that so you don't have the problem yeah but here nobody wants to prepare for that you know why because the government no no yeah the government because it costs you more in insurance than insure your house so you're not going to put it in a woodburning stove, you're not going to have a fucking fireplace because your insurance goes up.

But in fairness, that's not entirely true. If you put in a flat, so not a wood stove, a wood stove, obviously for the folks, I think I don't need to explain this, but it's like freestanding sitting there. If you put in a wall unit that is a fireplace, your insurance doesn't go up that much. But it goes up. Yeah. But minimum. But minimum. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. No, it does matter. It does. Listen, it matters because when they did this in Quebec, they didn't have that shit anymore

because not everybody can afford $25 a month or whatever it is. They just don't fucking do it because they know it's an added cost. I know, but this is why. This is what I'm getting at. So if the government wants to get the fuck out of the way and let us be able to survive, let's not like if they're giving out government, grants and incentives let's give an incentive for a wood burning stove

for a fireplace. They're given out incentives. Part of the reason there's not as many wood. No, for they don't want us burning wood at all in Canada. They're giving out incentives for wind and solar. This is what I'm getting at. Fucking let us have a wood burning stove or whatever it is, one per household. And so you can... That'll come too late. So what will happen

is when it gets really bad, then they'll give the incentive. And what we're talking about is being ahead of the curve. Yes. And so what I'm talking about as you go, you don't, people don't have the $25. Well, people really need to think about that. Because if that is the case, like, I took a short-term loss and I tell the story lots on a long-term mortgage. Why?

Because we argued about it, incessantly to the point where you're like, you're going to take a full point higher on a 10-year mortgage. Because to the Americans out there, we don't have 25, 30-year mortgages. We have five-year fixed or variable. that's basically what we got. And most people go unvariable because it's been very beneficial. Up until now. Up until now.

And so what we did in the middle of COVID is a whole group of us took 10-year mortgages, which sounded insane at the time. Now we look like geniuses. And what I'm saying with the wood-burning stove, what I'm saying with all these different things is you really need to, you really need to think about it. Because what is the risk right now of having a wood-burning stove and paying extra $25 a month? Well, yes, you're going to pay an extra $25 a month.

Okay. But the way prices are going, if none of the worst case scenario happens, is you probably can heat your house for cheaper than what is going on right now. But here's the thing. So it's not that the cost of the natural gas or the electricity, right? And fucking here I go down this roll, this fucking road again. I said it wasn't going to go. So if I'm, if I'm planning something, I think like a bad guy.

So am I going to go to a fucking, am I going to go to a grocery store and shoot a bunch of people? No. Because that's not the effect that my, like if I'm going to shut down a nation, I'm going to start fucking hitting infrastructure. Natural gas, electricity, pumping stations for oil. that are totally unguarded in this country. And not only does that shut down our ability to survive in a cold winter, thank fuck it's warm, but the eastern side of the United States gets shut right down.

So that's what I'm going after. And if you don't fucking think that there's a group of people out there right now, that Christmas is a fucking huge time to do something stupid. And I pray to fucking God that our people are out there and are on this shit. Because we have really smart, good people, R.C.N.P. fucking sees us that all the guys that should be looking at this. I'm sure they're on it. That's what they're going after. Yeah, our infrastructure is not. They're not taking a gun into the mall to shoot fucking 10 people.

they're going to fucking shut the country down. There's a lot of people that would say Israel had all the smart people and then allowed them to walk right through the doors. And I keep coming back. If the worst case scenario happens, we're all in for a ride. There's nothing we can get around that. I tell the wife all the time,

to me, it's the thousand cuts at this point. So this is a way I look at it and I go, and the thousand cuts are defendable. There are things you can do right now. This is where I come to. Every time I think about 2024, this is what comes up. I'm like, there are things we can do that help navigate the rough waters. Yes.

It's not like nuclear bombs going off. It's not terrorist attacks. If that happens, we're all in for a ride. There's no way to predict that. There is a way to predict that. Well, there is a way to predict in the future that prices aren't coming right back down. That's going to take time. It's taking time from to go up.

It's going to take time from them to go down. Nothing goes down. Well, you look at it and you go. It never goes back to where it was. We got to adjust. Like, if it goes back to 1% or 2%, fuck, that's not like what it was. You know what I mean? Like, you, I don't know, gas, gas, what, eight, nine months ago.

I was paying like a buck 45 or something to come go to work. I paid a buck 17 in Mornville right now. Like, you know, so things can readjust. And I hope if Oliver gets in there, he does readjust things. Like this groceries. Groceries are insane right now. But what, what you just say? said insane.

Voting for a conservative government is like voting for insanity. Well, who would you vote for right now? Yeah, but that's what you would you vote for them? I, I'm definitely voting conservative. But here's, here's my problem, Chuck. We've been voting conservative. They've never changed our ability to be representative properly in the western part of the world.

You're not wrong, but who else would you vote for them? But, but here's the thing. Why to fuck, like all the shit that we're worried. about and we're talking about why don't we just start anew oh i'm not i'm not against it i think why like like like every politician in this country conservative or or liberal or nDP are corrupt um there's people out there in this world that that that in this in this part of the world that can run this fucking region which is 14 million people from manitoba all the northern territories, northern BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, we can run this part of the world that is now

going to attract the best of all the world to come here. We've got everything the world wants. We can rewrite. We can rewrite our laws to protect fucking our children from pedophiles, criminals from killing fucking people. We can do a lot of good for this. country. I get it. And if we keep going down this road, we're going to be set up for a heartbreak for the rest of our fucking lives. I agree with you. Where do we fucking stop? Well, the stop is when it really hurts. We're only in the world. Oh, it really hurts. Fuck on. This is, this is, this is just the tip of the how bad it is. 24, in my opinion, will be a very big deciding factor. Like, so it really hurt. Like that, that woman in a wheelchair that was run over by a fucking bunch of

a fox on horses in like yeah she's pretty fucking hurt I'm not saying she's not I'm saying how many people that have their lives ruined by the government taking her bank accounts we like where do we draw the line so you're right

and you're both right because the common person in Canada hasn't been hurt as much as what you're pointing out we're seeing we're seeing the red flags everywhere and the red flags are telling us exactly where we're heading. Tell you what,

Polyab don't fucking give the West a say. I'm out like fucking I love this country. I fought for this country. So did you. But we didn't fight for this bullshit. No. I agree.

And anybody that went overseas to fight for our way of life, if they would have seen crystal ball and seen what was in the future, other than fighting for the massacres of the Germans, we're doing to all kinds of walks of life during World War II, they would have went for that. I guarantee you that.

But they wouldn't have went for where our government is fucking lia is and what they're doing to us. I agree. Without repercussion, because going down this road, as a leader, if you give me a... Pulling the mic in. Oh, as a leader, if you give me a dishonest command, and I follow that, I'm legally liable and so are you. Fucking Trudeau totally had a bunch of disarmed, um, civil activists that were,

were standing up for what they believed in. And he rolled in there with fucking heavy horse. And totally, I get it. It makes me sick to my stomach to the shit that he did to our people. I'm with you. I'm 100% with you. I'm just saying the tipping. point where people say, especially in the West, where we actually have a chance to regroup

and reform and have a better way of life here, we're not there yet. I don't know what it looks like. Nobody does, but there will be a catalystic moment where things change overnight. And it will be an overnight moment. We're dripping there now. We're thousands of cutting here now. I mean, in fairness to the audience, 9-11 was one of those moments. That was a moment. And sitting here, it changed our lives for everyone. but didn't immediately impact us that day, you know? October 7th, whether people understand it or not, what happened in Israel, that is a moment. Now, it's catching up to people right now.

We talked about how Trudeau rolled in his, the horse brigade and the RC and everything that went on in there, what happened in there. We're watching literal Hamas terrorists in Canada threatened to kill cops in Toronto, not even an arrest, not even a, you know, and this is just regular. Well, look at all the shootings. That wasn't that just recently?

October 7th was when the Israel thing happened. But we're watching. No, no, no, no. But now we're watching, like, that way you're in Toronto, the guy saying he's going to gut him. Yeah. It was like three days ago.

Yeah. Yeah, but look what's going on, like what happened in Montreal. They're fucking shooting up Israeli schools. Mm-hmm. And nobody's paid, like nobody's paid answer. It's just a nothing here. Yeah.

Kirstie Frilyland's got to go talk to the Muslim council wherever she was about Islamophobia. Well, it's not, that's the opposite of where they need to be talking. So here's the thing. Why to fuck aren't like activist groups looking at what has happened and what they're doing to, or what they have done to Israelis that were peaceful people living in their own part of the world? There's, in Israel, I don't know if our people understand this, but there's two million Arabs that live inside Israeli

territory that they vote they live like regular Israelis. They are Israeli. They have Israeli passports. They can travel wherever the fuck they want, but they're Arabs. Two million.

Two million of the 9.4 million people in Israel are Arab. And they get the vote, they get, they're treated like a regular citizen. They're in the military, they're judges, their cops, their doctors, their lawyers, they're everything. that are pushed to the outskirts are the ones that are fucking preaching death to Israel death

the United States which we have here in Canada now with from the river to the sea and bring on the intifada like these are these are known like bring on the blood like this is not some well there better be some context no this is this is a call to war and what makes me sick is like like people maybe they don't understand from the river to the sea they might think it's just a slogan yeah it's catchy yeah it sounds peaceful it sounds nice but no it's the it's the extermination of a culture of people and and i fought against moslems in in 2006 i went back in 2007 fought with moslems against Mosul. And I had 40 Afghans, Uzbeks, that I consider brothers to this day.

We were in one of the most heavily fought over parts of Zubu province. We were attacked once a day, twice a day. I had guys that were wounded that I would call in that there were coalition forces. so that they would get extracted out for proper medical attention because an Afghani was not put at the top of the priority list. I laid it out for them, and they laid it out for me. And so that there just proved to me that I can live with Muslims and they can live with a Christian,

but they can't say they want to fucking destroy. Christianity because then that's where the line is drawn because I'm not like like I'm allowed to exist I'm allowed to marry a white woman I'm allowed to have white children I'm allowed to have Christ as my savior I'm allowed to celebrate his birthday I can't do that right now my school but you go to fucking if I moved to a Muslim part of the world Here in fucking teed, I'm going to be taught about Ramadan, and I got to celebrate it, fine.

I'll fucking accept that. That's where I live. And like we were taught, hey, when in Rome, be like a Roman. And that's why Canadians are accepted throughout the world. When people come here, I understand your religion. I accept your religion, but this is a Christian-based, country and you don't get the right to take my religion away from me. It's been a slow death.

It's been a slow death. Because we have our fucking heads in the sand. You're going to see October 7th is going to be not just the catalyst for where it happened, but you're seeing a trickle across the world. And here in Canada, there's going to be violence. And I don't mean a couple of shootings at schools and a few stores get broken into, you're going to see violence. And people are, there's, I have friends who are on the exact opposite side, you know,

Israel doesn't have a right to exist. Well, really? Well, so where do you put those 9.4 million Israelis? Where do, well, they just don't have a right to exist. They're, and then they use words like genocide, like they understand what genocide means. You're like, do you, you understand nothing. They make me sick. It, it's, I don't even spend time on Twitter anymore because it's just this,

you know, echo chamber of like Israel shouldn't be around from the river to the sea is a really great slogan. Bring on the Intifada. It's just, this is where we're going to see things really have a dividing line. Not going to get into too much of it, but I'll tell you what, Israel will come out on top of this. It doesn't matter how many countries come after them. People are like, well, they go too hard in Palestine. They're just going to have even the Turks will leave NATO and go after them bring it on Israel Israel's got a pretty good record at whooping multiple armies at a time and if that that gets too dangerous for them

You know who the US has to go in after and then we have the biggest third world war possible It won't be Russia Ukraine that's all that's wrapping up that that'll be done this year is my prediction That that's not even on the scope anymore. You don't even hear about that anymore. You know why? Because the largest counteroffensive of publicized in history all over social media, lost more ground than it gained and Russia's inching forward everywhere. It's a meat grinder for both sides, but Russia is taking ground. Russia is taking cities. Russia is so far ahead of us now as a military.

It would Blair yesterday our defense minister announced that he just spent like three billion dollars on 11 drones. Are you kidding? We don't get to 2028 by the way. 11 drones. what the fuck how much like 2.9 billion dollars on these stupid drones

these old school you know super drones can't tell you funny story about drones in Afghanistan all right I'll wait on so so they are using drones by the literal hundred every day over there we we pay 2.9 billion for 11

that's where we're at militarily it must be the globe master it's not even military that's bureaucracy bureaucracy. Well, we don't. Let's face it, we don't have a military. We don't.

We're down to like 31,000 right now or so, give or take. You guys got menstrual products in the men's bathroom. Thank God. But my whole career, I wondered, where is my tampoon? You got to be. What? Yeah, those are for free in men's bathrooms now. You got to be fucking shit.

I'm not. I'm not. I wish I could tell you I was lying. No, you can find. So what are they got in a girls' bathroom? Like condoms and fucking shit? I have no idea. Whatever what the fuck?

I don't know, buddy. You gotta be sure. I'm not kidding. Like two weeks ago, three weeks ago. Two weeks ago. I sent it to you, Willie, and Chuck. You sent that to me? 100%.

Oh, fuck. Good thing I admire you. Hey, get that fucking Patricia flag over your motherfucker. But so. I was wondering where you hid that. I didn't hit it. It's right in front. You put that front center.

You got two Patricia's here. We, um, we are not in a good space for our military right now. When I say, motherfucker, that's a loving term. We don't. Then the camera is seeing there. There we go. We don't have anything left. Thank you.

The people joining right now, there's almost, there's a trickle of none. There was a, there was a survey put out or a poll put out about a week ago by, I forget which news agency. And the overwhelming majority said we should be sending troops to Ukraine to help our ally. First, Ukraine's not an ally. They're not our ally. No, you're right. Secondly, what military is going to go? Who are we going to send the Latvia battle group?

They'd be 50% casualties within a side of an hour. Well, but in an hour. Chuck, you're talking about a communist conscript army again. Who are the Russians? No, Lafia. Oh, Latvia. They're a junk army anyway. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm getting at.

Yeah. Like, there's a, there's a difference. Like, there's a difference between a volunteer and a conscript. Like, it's, uh. Yeah, it's night and day. It's no comparison. You can't. The problem, though, now.

is you can hate Russia people can hate Russia all they want that's fine I don't give a shit I'm not pro-russia I'm pro-winning fights and I'm watching stuff on on the Russian front right now so there's a video out and you should all try and send it to you it's of these Chechen special forces a few days ago Chechen's they're scary dudes probably the scary things in the world Chechians are some of the best fighters I've fought against these guys are using therm so it's all filmed from a drone above them at night using thermals they're wearing thermal capes so a thermal cape basically will hide you from thermals as they crawl up to this Ukrainian position dude

leaps up does a sentry take down which we were have been trained to do I've never done one like that's next level shit jumps on the guy's back falls back fills him with his knife his partner flips the cape off runs by gets the next guy this is stuff that now just The ferocity of doing that is one thing. And I've killed a lot of dudes from like, me to you apart, killed a lot of dudes. I've never snuck up on a guy in the middle of the night with a thermal cape on and then just jointed a dude. Like just that's next level shit.

And the fact that they have thermal capes, this is, these are Russian forces. Can I tell you about thermal shit? Yeah. Yeah. So they have this. Not only do they have this. They're filming it from a little drone. And they.

do all of this so that in four months, they will improve this and send it back to the battlefield. Their turnaround for tech and improvements in their SOPs is between four and seven months. Ours, well, we, we just bought, it's 2023. We just bought 11 drones for $3 billion for five years from now. 10 years for a neck, uh, like a scarf that I trialed in, in petawawa jumping over an airplane with two commando took 10 years from that trial to a, showed up in in issue but they're 10 fucking years in the best possible terms are in the shit which means okay this is real we're we need to improve which means they don't have 10 years to

give no they have yeah but in the army in maybe they have a month so they need to improve fast but here's here's the thing in your army you that's the whole fucking thing and thank God for fucking Hillier. Because he got shit to us the fight. And he made when there was an issue, it didn't take fucking 10 years for it to go through trial and

valuation. But this is going back to the first time I think I had Chuck on Solo where you go to war and you got all the Gucci. You guys talk about the Gucci. Oh, I got this. And then you go through one battle. I assume it's one battle because all it is, I take a hockey player.

You know, you want all this nice equipment. This is why I always bring it back, because this is the only thing I know. I want the big shoulder pads. I want the big elbow pads. I want everything big. And then you go through one game, you get crunched six times. And you go, listen, I need to be able to function. I use elbow pads that are my fathers.

They're from the 1970s. I use shoulder pads that are tiny. If I get cross-check, I go, you know what? I'm willing to take a cross-check. What I'm not willing to take is I can't move and getting drilled because there is a difference. And the further we get away from people being in the military, that understand that we are the Gucci Army

So here's a 31,000 And this we're getting at So Um 1999 RV or Waynecon Were you the

No, No 94 Yeah it would have been 94 I was in Boston Or no maybe 93 I was there in 93 Yeah we had that big fucking exercise

The American tanks came up So I was in wrecked Batoon sniper debt And our task was The test the thermal on fucking Abrams tanks, the most advanced tank at the time.

So fucking Sean Hearn, myself, fucking Bob Primmer, there's a few of us all in sniper, Blake guys, God bless his soul. So fucking Hearn and I are dead and we're laying beside a fucking road where fucking 12 Abrams tanks come rolling down.

It's just training Eric Stein's in. in Wainwright. Oh, you weren't actually tried to kill the tank. No, well, I could have pulled out my C-5 knife and fucking. Anyways, go ahead. So they're fucking rolling down the road, and it's followed by all their fucking logistics. Like the ground was vibrating.

Like literally we were three feet out the road in some wolf willow. And we're all fucking camoed up with all our fucking gilly suits and shit. So we're like, well, how to fuck did they not? see this heat signature because we were totally caught off guard they came over the fucking hill and they're quiet they're surprisingly quiet well they rolled over two dirt bikes first then two humvees and a tank like their ford were constants and we we couldn't fucking move so they the whole leaguer came in and they set up and uh when you're when you're laying beside this massive amount of equipment rolling in it's it's awe because in canada we don't got that shit

So it's like, fuck, if at any time, if they would have said contact, what they do is they burst out into a fucking defensive fighting position, we would have been run over. So we just fucking laying there, laying there, laying there, they got set up. Well, we're fucking right in the middle of these fuckers. And we ended up finding their command center. And we threw a fucking RDI SIM inside of a Humvee,

which is like a quarter stick at TNT fucking blew the place up but we got the radio frequency for their battalion or their fucking whatever but the only way we got out of there is we took our gilly suits off and we put a fucking stick through the arms

and we held the gilly suit up and we crouched down we walked backwards until we got into some dead ground and we could fuck off so by deflecting our heat like using our

our gilly suits to so the thermal couldn't find us we got the fuck out of there so then we had their their frequency for their radio so that they're bugging out and Bob Brimmer gets

maybe I shouldn't say his name on the radio but anyways he gets on the radio and he starts fucking with these guys so as they're rolling out he's like fucking car contact right and like 12 tanks fucking go into fighting formations all the logistics vehicles are doing their shit Italian commander gets on earth or the squadron bracket or I don't know what it

would be for tankers anyways yeah whoever said dad fucking there's no contact keep going and they get going contact left and they fucking burst out again and this went on and on and on until they figured out that we actually were, we're that close to their vehicles. Like, see, like, you actually had to look at the radio frequencies on the radio's that's where Sean and I got the fucking, the, the, the, their frequency from. Like, you, there's ways of defeating shit. Mm-hmm.

And you just got to think outside of the box. There is, but what worries me is we're not anymore. And like, these guys, these are Russians. have thermal capes. Well, we got them too. We've got them. Yeah, we're not, we're not even at the level

where we could deploy like that with them. We've got, we've, we've actually, did you see any thermal capes in Afghanistan? Because I didn't. I was, I had one in my fucking,

I sure shit did. Yeah, you didn't have a gilly suit with you. No, I didn't. But we were on layup ambushes day in and day out up at Gomba. You know,

this, this reminds me, Doug Casey, um, had an article about 10 days ago. And it was talking about 10 days ago. And he was talking about, about how to prepare for, you know, a bunch of different things.

And he was saying, you know, you're going to create a fort, you know, a castle of your home. And you're going to arm yourself. And it's like, well, what happens if 10 people attack your house? How are you going to deal with that? They better bring out of more. Fair enough. But what he was saying was like you're unprepared. Like you think, yeah, I got a gun, but you have he shot enough?

Have you dealt with it? Have you dealt with killing something? Have you on and on and on and on and on. So I take it to the military, the military, what you're talking about with the cape, right? So you can get away from, it's like, well, it's one thing to, I look at shows. I look at me and Tuesdays just on this stupidest sense. We just did a Tuesday mashup where it actually aired on Instagram. It's really stupid.

It's really stupid analogy to make on this. He said, I've never done it before. So if you've never done it before, how do you know what reacts? How do you know what happens? How do you know how the cape goes over you? How do you know to pull it off and not get caught? And on and on and it goes. And so the thing is, is like, are we using them every day?

No. Do we have them? Well, maybe we got one or two. Maybe we got 10. I don't know. But on the overall military manner saying, well, it wasn't really a thing. Okay, so we don't use them. So what you're saying with Russia is they have them.

And they're not only using them, they're getting better at it. I think we do got them actually. I think our fucking camouflage shit that, like those individual camouflage blankets we say. get? Remember those fucking they don't defeat thermal? Yeah, I think they do now, Chuck. Well, maybe they do today. They didn't. The stuff we don't have right now

is not thermal defeating. It might help with like, uh, I are defeating a little bit, but it is not thermal defeating. Okay, well, we had, we, we figured out a defeat thermal in the 90s. But, but all, oh, it's there. The tech is there. All we're saying is, is that

if you don't have, if you're not consistently working with whatever, it doesn't matter if you have it all nuclear missile if you don't know how to press the buttons you can't use the bloody thing but that goes back to the right leaderships

at the right time like if it wasn't for Hillier in in 06 we would have fuck we lost 150 guys in like what 14 years how many guys did we lose in in 06 the most yeah like

fucking it would have been it would have been a fucking game changer from using quick clock Turnikets. Fucking carrying extra ammunition. Getting rid of flichette rounds and using 18 or fucking 25 mils. The ability to have M72s, like the fucking 40 millimeter grenade lot.

You just go on and on and on. I give hope that credit, not Hillier. Well, Hillier was the guy that, like the M7, the M-T triple-7s, we never would have had them without Hillier. The which? The triple sevens? Yeah, the triple sevens. He got those in there. didn't find they made any different.

I got shot at by M-Triple-7s more than we probably used them on the enemy. Oh, no. We fucking, we hammered the enemy of those fucking things. Well, that was my company commander called in a fire mission on us in Garmcer. That fight we were in there. Thought we, again,

second time. Is that where Willie was? Well, you guys were getting them out or Garmser? That was my dear about Garmcer was another fight where we crossed the river, fought all night, crossed the river the next day. Yeah.

And fought for that town for five days with the Brits. Oh, fuck. That was awesome. That was a good fight. That was good. Did I tell you that story? Did we tell you that story? Go ahead.

That was fucking awesome. Speaking in the mic, man. Oh, Fuck. Oh, Jesus. You can hear it. I know you can hear it in your mic. Maybe just give me the fucking...

I need to give you, yeah, the one right on your... Hey, uh, just so you guys see this, I was issued this shirt in 1988. This is my PT strip for the Royal Reginal Rifles. Which, by the way, we have... the Winnipeg Rifles, great regiment. They're moving their monument off of our beach, over to their own beach. Colonel Ed Stendioski and General Walker

and Colonel Brooks and all the guys, which I'm actually part of the steering group. I don't know why, but I'm glad to be part of it. They fundraise for an eight-foot-tall bronze statue of a Regina rifle coming out of the water with a Bren gun. And it's going to be mounted on our beach. June 6th of this year, which I'm going to be going to.

They're unveiling it? They're unveiling it there. It's going to be fucking epic. Maybe John Newman should be there. Should fucking be there. I'll make a trip. Fucking right, brother. I'm telling you.

I tell you what, military round table. In fucking France. Why not? Motherfucker right on the beach. Why not? Why not? That's an interesting idea. Guess what?

the Regina rifles are the key to success for the D-Day landing and there's not a regiment out there that can say that because they got nominated to the Royal Regina rifles for it. They fought off a 12,000 man fucking German pancer division. They took the abbey. They fought in a canal. They took the fucking shelf. Like the Regina rifles and it's a great story about Canadians because we were half fucking settler, half native, or maybe three-quarter

settler and a quarter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They fought like brothers and I've been to the reunions and listened to them and talk and they fucking loved each other to the end of that. The government should be scared if all of us could just unite because that's what they are afraid of. Yeah. Because at the end of the day when you talk about anything politics, if the people come together Yeah, well, 100%

If they find a way to divide us You know what? Then they have control. You know what unites us? Is fighting against our environment. To be a Canadian to survive, we have to work together. From farming to fucking heating our homes.

And that's a pioneering thing. And that was a thing of the people of the land before we, us pioneers or settlers were ever here. The fucking environment unites us because we've got to work together. Mo Boyd's. Hey, hey, it's not over yet. We've got to say a couple of shoutouts.

You got to say shoutouts. I know. I'm just prompting you. Don't cut us off like last time. I'm going to cut you off last. I guess you tried cutting me off. Every time I try cutting Jamie off, he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, we got a story. So we got 15 minutes.

For sure we do. Maybe 30. But all I'm saying to the audience is. I got to go out of a piss first. Oh, my God. First ever military roundtable. This is what this is. January.

going to have it again and willie's going to be a part of it but moving forward we want to have military guys gets his uh sand out of his you know what his vagina i can say the word i'm not afraid of oh and ben apparently it's pretty big i might get tackled by him the next time he's in here ben's coming in the new year too so it'd be good to get him on yeah well no ben's coming on yeah well and jody saw a very good friend of both of us that fought with us together in Afghanistan who was in my or we were in the same

platoon. Uh, great fucking, uh, what, what Jody does is he helps people transition into civilian life. He helps with like soldiers going through difficult times.

You guys know my thoughts on this. My thoughts is simple. You are a very small portion of the Canadian population. And, uh, have experiences that are even more remote on the world population.

We need to, to talk about it. And we don't have, I know there's podcasts that are strictly military. I get it. But I'm like, in my audience, myself personally, I'm like, we need to talk more about it. So. I'm having to quit this. We're wrapping up. No, we can't. What do you need

to say? Well, aren't we telling stories? I'm having to fucking. We're coming to the end here. We've already been on for five minutes. I couldn't get a word in it. Jesus. You guys hog up all the time. Couldn't get an inch.

Are you sure? You can't wait. You should have your own podcast. I tell you what? We need a clock in here. We're going to have you back on, Jamie. No worries. You know in every apocalypse movie,

doomsday movie or whatever, and at some point they have to go to the old guy, the crazy town crazy guy, and he's got the ham radio. Like, they're the ham radio guy right here. Well, so? I'm not saying it's a bad thing. But, yeah.

Okay, listen, all right. Listen, one final story from James. No, no, not from, no, let's fucking let Chuck go first. Well, also, I got to talk about Chuck's hat. Okay, so with Paul Springer. You just said let Chuck go over. Yeah, yeah, but I just got, no, this isn't a story. I just got to comment him on his hat, but I got to tell you the history behind.

You know, some days when I'm rattling off these podcasts, So, folks, I'm in the middle of the Christmas push is what I call it. So I'm rattling off. I think it's like, I don't know, is it 10 in 10 and four days? I can't remember what it is. It's a lot. But this is not working. This is the greatest.

This is, I can't ask for a better time than this. Okay, so going back to good old Paul Springer, fucking God bless his soul, like he would call all the time. And it would be a check-in. and hey how are you doing sinclair fucking just checking on the boys making sure you're good you know going through the you know because that's how he was he fucking would he had a ton of guys he would call and he was always the guy you know organizing like a retirement party and making sure there's a shadow box and he'd have somebody in the states and the sap making a fucking shadow box for a canadian that's retiring and he was just all over it like

he that was his mission and he always had to check in with the boys and at the end of it when you're done talking it was like airborne out love your motherfucker and fucking need to hang up the phone right so fucking chuck's got like we're in the red devils right a company um one bpcly is the red devils so whenever i fucking talk to chuck i'm like red devil's up you know if i love you motherfucker and uh love you brother and and and and that's important, right? So when I saw Chuck earlier today, he convinced me to go have a beer with him at Montanans.

I'm like, are you sure? I don't know. What beer? Okay, but you called me a pussy. I'll come. So anyways, I relented, I gave in and went out a beer with him. Anyways, I'm looking at it. I'm like, where the fuck is your red devil's hat? He goes, and then he turns his head because

red devil's hat's on the other side. I'm like, oh, for fuck sakes. Thank God you're wearing that because the one you gave me, It's too big because you get a pin hat. Yeah, but on the back of it, it says violence solves everything, which it does. Because when you deal with people that don't understand fucking communication and only thing they know is violence, then you've got to be violent. And it's in, I can see it in your eyes right now. like it's in all of us to be violent if we have to be.

So violence at the end of day. And that's why, you know, police officers fight, they learn to the fight because that's what criminals deal with is violence. In the world order, when you deal with fucking terrorists and fucking terrible people, the only thing they know is violence. So in our culture, violence solves everything. Like when we would go through basic training or battle school, every Sunday was fucking fight day. We would fight each other.

What do you want is, what is it? So I gave, I gave this hat to fucking Henry, which is a fucking beaut. Like Henry missed his calling. You should have been a fucking brigade commander in the community of forces. Henry showed out again. Smart as fuck. Fit as fuck. Great fighter.

And I gave, I gave him the. fucking red devil's hat. I'll get more. Because you got a pin head. Yes. You got a tiny little head. Tiny little, little,

little skull. Baby head. I have an ice cream bill head compared to your 45-gillum drum head. That's right. This was the perfect size hat for me.

I was going to say, Jordan Peterson talks about it. You want to be a monster. You just want to be able to control it. Yeah. And that's what we want out of a leader. You want somebody who,

if somebody challenges them, they beat the crap out of them and then go back to being a nice person. It doesn't even have to be used. It just needs to be known. Known that he can use it. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm going through that with my youngest son right now. Like, so there was a girl that was being bullied in school. So he fucking dealt with it. And my son's not big, but he did not like what was going on. And so then he fucking tried extorting money out of her. Because my daughter is like a fucking she. extortes money out of my son all the time.

Like, if he's got a phone home, that's five bucks. Like, she, she's going to retire before she gets on high school, right? So I had to have this conversation with my son. I'm like, son, when you're doing the right thing in life, you don't do it for money. You're doing it because it's right. And I'm like, why did you think you had to say, hey, you've got to pay me for sticking up with you? And you really couldn't answer the question. And like I don't know what was going through his brain set at that time.

But as parents, you know, like you got to rein that shit in. Like so when kids are overly aggressive, you got to calm them down. But when they're honorably aggressive, you got to inspire it in them. But you got to make sure they're doing it for the right reasons. And I was so glad that I ran into that at the age of eight, not the age of fuck. and 28, right? Because, you know, things, you know, who knows where you go down in life

when you think you're doing that for money. And I guarantee you, chucked in, signed the Army, signed up for the Army to do, do it for money. And neither did I. No. Although when I did private security stuff, we got paid well, but there was no,

there was no backup. Like, when you were by your, like, going back to bridges, um, the reason why I know how important bridges, are, is because when I had to leave Central Africa and leave by foot

with no support, the government controls all the bridges. You can't get through Africa without going over a bridge. Well, governments are always going to try and control the choke points. So, and on a physical sense,

it's the bridge. But when shit goes south, the bridges are in control, either by a gangster. or by the government. I've talked to enough communist people who've grown up in communism. What do they take over first? Communications.

Because if you can control communications, how do you spread the message? How you on and on? You look at what the Canadian government is doing with podcasting. And you go, they aren't coming after Sean Newman. I don't make that much money. They're coming after who promotes Sean Newman, all the nice little things that you can listen to me on.

And if they choke them off, they choke you out. Right. And all of a sudden you can't find me. All of a sudden, you know, in a very small, small sense, I'm Alex Jones. You have a website, and now you have to go there. It's like, well, we can't completely shut them out. And we're not communism because we never did any of that. But you're slowly strangling.

It's death by a thousand cuts. Yeah. While they fund the rest of the media, that agrees with them. Correct. That's where we're out. Yeah, we've got to get rid of that fucking media bullshit. Like Jordan, like you were saying about Jordan Peterson, like, first, like, people, Like people listening don't ever take the Jamie and I are saints or I've lived the saintly life or I've lived a

I've lived rough pretty a pretty violent life due to the nature of the jobs I've had and I've had no problem with those roles I would Chuck that's what we were trained for trained for but you can be trained for a thing and not be good look at weird guys we were talking about before like they just they were cowards at the end of the day they they were but but but But the amount of cowards are very minimal. They are. I'm, but I think it's, there's training and then there's, but there's mentality too. And it doesn't, people out there listening, you don't have to have been through what Jamie and I've been through to get to a point where you can defend yourself and defend your loved ones. Yeah. And, and not go out aggressively like a bully looking for something.

Never do that. That's when bad things happen. But people should be able to defend their castle. Walk, walk quietly and carry. a big stick is my motto. It's what I'm trying to say is like I've not always been a great person but and I'm but I've never been a bully and I don't go around looking for it ever. I never go looking for any kind of troubling for the most part it never finds me but I'm

more than happy to engage to oblige to oblige just like last time I was three we were together I think that kind of happened. I was saying he, Chuck had taken off. I was like, we were at the bar. The last time folks I've ever been remotely close to a fight, remotely. And this has been at least 10 years since then. I got in a fight last year. We're sitting in a bar and it comes.

And I'm like, oh my God, we're about to get in a fight. I'm like, well, at least I got Jamie Sint me savvy. That guy's crazy. And they don't realize what they're biting off here. I'm like, this is going to be not fun for them. You know, it didn't happen. but that was a strange night. Fear and common sense.

Fear and common sense held that man back. It doesn't always work though, fear and common sense. But at the end of the day, people need to be ready for what's coming in 24. I think this is going to be a pivotal year. Financially, economically for people on a personal level, I'm feeling it. Like my mortgage has gone up a thousand bucks in the last year and a half. Like it's, I know other people are in the same boat. Groceries, good luck.

I mean, everybody who goes to a grocery store feels it. Can you go to a movie? People just are living different lives now because they can't afford the life they had two years ago or five years ago. So people need to be aware that this is going to bring out a different atmosphere. And you talked about it with Daniel Smith on your cast with her about every city seems to have a homeless camp now or homelessness. And crime is through the roof. Crime is going skyrocketing right now. We are in for a trend that isn't going to be fixed in the next two years.

even if we have the election to dig ourselves out of it, Pierre's not going to be able to fix this in five minutes. Like this is, you don't fix these kind of. Actually, it's, that's bullshit. We, we had the fix. We got rid of the, the laws to, I agree. Give us the ability to fix the problems. But now when you,

No, we, we, we've had these problems back in the thirties with all the drugs and shit. They had insane asylums. They would send these people to them. It was a fucking done deal. But that's something. else too that's on you don't want to get better you're not here you're going to a fucking penitentiary insane asylum until you're better and this is something else that we but we're a bunch of fucking homoes now we don't want to fucking uh call spade a spade this is something else on a different

tangent though like we don't have mental institutions anymore i think yeah Alberta hospital might be like the last one here yeah um let's bring them back well we need to honestly because half of the prison population should be housed at a mental institution. But our politicians like, oh, we don't know what the solution is. You're fucking right, you know. You're the one that voted against having these facilities. You don't want to go backwards on it because you're the one saying we shouldn't have it. I know.

It's a political issue at this point. But no, so that going back to it, get rid of fucking our, the shit we're doing. Now let's start our own fucking things. But even, even if tomorrow, we instituted these things. That's years of digging that mess out again. It's years of digging back out of that. Even if we change policy tomorrow. You gotta start somewhere, Chuck.

Oh, I agree, but we're not gonna even change policy for at least two years. Gotta start somewhere. Yeah. And hopefully we do, but these next couple years are only gonna get worse. And guess what? We stop government bullshit with all the red tape. We can speed all this shit up.

Man, I can't wait for January when we have military roundtable. Okay, just, we'll just keep going. No, I... It'll save us a bunch of gas, buddy. No, you know, no. You got the thinking juice going? I got the thinking juice going, that's right. But we're going to cut it off here because I...

Under protest. Under, I am fucking... I'm not voting for the end of this meeting. Underproc, where's that bottle of whiskey? You go to the bathroom, don't you have to go? Fuck you. I already went. You wouldn't not believe.

Man, I'm looking, honestly, I'm looking forward to military roundtable two. I'm like, how do I schedule this right way? So I have enough time. And we can allow Jamie to drink the entire bottle and be completely fine. Fuck you. You drag out of the bottle. Either way. Boys, thanks for making the trip here.

Chuck's getting through his first glass. He'll be okay. Every time you guys come. I really enjoyed it. And I mean that. There's a reason why I put a bit of a start on the date of when you guys come. And I look forward to trying to make that more of a mainstay, like in 2024. I think it's really important that you guys and others from the military background come on and talk about their experiences and just their views on what's going on.

Because I think it's, well, I just think it's really important. So I appreciate you both making the trip here and sitting in. Well, let's do one last cheers for our. man that donated the whiskey. Earl Wally. Earl Wally. Thanks, Earl. To the Patricia's,

to the fucking Devils, rocket brigade that started our special forces here in Canada. And to the Regina Rifles that

fucking kicked ass on D-Day. And to all the men and women out there that are carrying on with our way of life and are not fucking complying to. to the people that want us to comply. Ungovernable.

You're going to be it's uncomfortable. In 2024, you sound like, you sell like my four-year-old saying of prayer night? And everyone's like, can you just, come on, come on, come on.

Hey, at least he's saying her prayer. Hey, I fucking appreciate that. 100%. I'm all over. It's just, my son does the same thing. Fucking says Lord prayer every night and my daughter and my oldest boy, too.

dear dear who do we dear to i'm making fun of you case someday case he's going to listen to this and he's going to be like say you're talking to me i'm talking directly about you and how slow you play it out you're like jamie in the final credits thanks boys for coming in uh look forward to the next time you bet buddy thank you for giving us a voice motherfucker