Shaun Newman Podcast - #573 - Scott Marsland 2.0

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

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I'm talking about Scott Marzland. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Scott Marzlin. So thanks for coming back on, sir. My pleasure. You know, I was just saying to you, and I guess I'll say to the, it's been an interesting little go here.

had, oh my goodness, Deney Rancour, he did the paper showing 17 million deaths from the vaccine. And then I had Brett Weinstein's wife on, Heather Hying. And then Ken Drysdale was on. He was one of the four commissioners of the National Citizens Inquiry here in Canada. And then you're back on. So, you know, I went from when I talked to you, I'm like, I haven't really talked too much COVID lately to like, it has been full. throttle here the last couple days. So you're sliding back in, I guess. I don't know, at the perfect time, I don't know, it just seems like it's like, it's like, oh, it's time for Scott to come back.

So how are you, sir? I'm good. We've got snow on the ground. I've had a day full of patient visits. And, you know, what I, what I do is, is very hopeful because by and large, I help people get better to a greater or lesser degree. So it's a good angle to have. Well, I, a little hope. That would be nice coming out. You know, I went back and I listened to our last chat. And I'm going to be honest, there was a lot of heavy stuff in there, you know,

and I get stuck on because I don't know, I don't know what to do about it. And that was the sex thing, you know? And it's funny, after you said Dr. Ruth, and I couldn't pick up who you're talking about, I'm like, oh, yeah, I, anyways, I go back and listen to that, folks. I got teased about that by the text line. There was a bunch of people saying I must be pretty young if I can't remember that, which was funny. So I got a whole bunch of clips brought in. But that was one that, I don't know, even now where I sit, I'm like, I don't know how I feel about it.

I just don't know how I feel about it, Scott. Well, there's how we feel about it and what we do if we're thinking about it. I mean, human beings are so confused about sex to start with. So that's sex and money, right? But I think the best place to start is love. What do we do when we love people? You know, how do we approach intimacy if we love the person that we're having sex with? You know, we don't, we want, we don't want to unintentionally harm the person that we love.

So what would we do or what would we do differently? And I think that there's a way to go forward where we continue to be sexual creatures and have pleasure and connection through sex. But I think we also have to be cognizant of how things are a little different right now around that. Yeah, it's funny. You know, you get in a whole bunch of different conversations, and then you bring you on and you get talking about sex. And folks, if you haven't listened to the first one,

you're like, what the heck are these two going on about? Go back and listen to the first one. And in the first one, what I'm bringing up with Scott is he had talked about how men's semen is probably one of the most... I can't remember that... Toxic. Toxic, yeah, that's the word you used. Toxic substance, especially if you're vaccinated.

And that we should be using protection in sex, no matter what the couple's vaccination status is, no matter where you stand on this line. So this is a very like, everybody's in the same boat as what Scott is talking about. And, well, that's... I don't know. here listening once again to it and I'm like I'm right back to where I was back then I'm like I

just I get it but I'm like am I that against condoms Scott is that what I am is that is that where I sit now everybody's getting into my personal life here um now I've got Scott speechless I like he made me speechless on the first one because I was like I was almost blushing I'm like oh my goodness we're talking about who but now I'm like here we sit. It's into the most intimate part of a couple's life, I feel. That's, I guess, where I'm at. Maybe a place we can come at it from is intercourse from the perspective of procreation, right? A heterosexual couple is interested in having a child. And how do they, If, in fact, semen is toxic, how do you think about that?

I had a really interesting visit with a patient yesterday. And, you know, he's a man in his 30s. He was vaccinated. His wife is about the same age. She's vaccinated. And they have a lovely young child. and they want to have more children, right? And what has happened is there have now been three pregnancies within the last year

where his wife, they were able to successfully conceive, but between the eighth and the tenth week, the child's heartbeat ceased and she miscarried. And so this is, you know, our practice is the leading edge clinic. I would say this is truly the edge of medicine, right? The legal definition of an expert is a person who is very well versed in the standard of care. There is no standard of care.

We're out on the edge here. And, you know, I just tried to walk through that with him in terms of common sense. And, you know, where he's coming from is, he even asked the question, well, should we even be trying to have children? But I said, no, I think you should be trying to have children. We need people to continue to have children. And he's like, okay, well, you know, my wife and I tried an experiment. One of the times when she is pregnant, we continue to have plenty of intercourse.

The next time she was pregnant, we only had it once. and both times she miscarried, right? So what do we do next? And I think that you and I started on this the last time we talked, and I said, well, we use spike antibody as an indirect measure of the amount of spike in a person's body. That's where I would start. You know, I would try and measure or indirectly measure

a spike in a person's body and try and minimize that. Try to get it down as much as possible, right? and in their case his wife isn't getting sick that he can tell when they have sex but he's contributing half of the genetic material so it makes sense to look at well what what influence is there of spike in in that tragedy right and I think it's actually easier to try and manage things from the man's perspective because men are continually recycling our sperm, right? You know, if we don't release it, when we ejaculate, then our body recycles it, right? Whereas a woman is born of all the eggs that she's going to have for her entire life.

So if the eggs have been affected by the spike protein, then that's a little harder to figure out, How do we manage it? Forgive me. This is like biology course probably back in like grade nine. If a man doesn't ejaculate, it recycles, like his entire sperm count? It gets resorbed, right? You know, the body wants the best chance it can have to reproduce. And so you want your sperm to be vigorous, right?

And so basically, the way I put it is sperm can age out. So the body will, a man's body will continuously make sperm. And the older sperm will get broken down and resorbed. You know, one of the things we talked about, you mentioned the last time, was that, you know, don't live in fear. Or, you know, when you're in fear, you're kind of paralyzed as to what to do and that type of thing. Yeah. That's when I bring up this conversation, you know, my brain goes to, okay, what can one do to go, okay, this is where I sit currently? this is the steps I'm going to do and then almost like a retest oh here I said and then

continue to be proactive about this so you don't have to worry about it or do you see that as being even the right mindset well I think I think we're all in it together whether we got vaccinated or didn't and I think that the signs are that as a as a as a population that we're moving on. One, you know, there was a Razmussen study in the United States that showed the 53% of Americans think that the vaccines

harmed people. So I think we're closing in on a critical number so the people are going to say, yeah, I'm not sure that I don't think I want to get these again. And the closer we get to no longer using these shots

because they're not safe and they're not effective, the closer we get to being able to set aside some of our worry and being able to live more naturally, so to speak. But in the meantime, you know, the spike antibody test from my perspective has been incredibly useful. I see it as a speedometer on the dashboard. And, you know, if someone is immune or suppressed, they're not making antibodies. That's kind of a small number of people. But generally speaking, if you measure the spike antibody level of a person, whether the vaccinated or unvaccinated, it's going to give you some idea what's going on in the background.

And I think that that's a good starting point, right? in the meantime we still have to we still have to consider what everyone around us is doing and how we're taking the results of their decisions into our bodies whether they're shedding from crying or sweating or holding us through their skin or do you have in sucks? You know, as a stick, maybe, maybe, well, two thoughts. The first is right now we said it, and I feel like I'm rehashing something similar to what we talked about,

but for some reason my brain gets it and doesn't get it all at the same time, and now maybe I'm just slowly beginning to understand why it's important to just like, no more. You know, Florida just had the Surgeon General come out, right? It was on Tucker Carlson and everything else. And they're calling for an end of the COVID-M RNA vaccines in Florida. So, you know, when you talk about signs that maybe we're getting closer to the end of this vaccination campaign, we could go down a whole other list of lanes where it looks pretty dark and nefarious. Or we could stare at that for at least a couple minutes and go, well, Florida's made a step.

When you talk about the percentage of Americans, the thing that I always look at is, well, how many people are taking the boosters right now? Alberta, last time I checked, unless it's gone up a bunch, I highly doubt it. It was at 3%. But what you're talking about and you're reminding me all over again,

even though I listen to it all over again, I'm hearing it twice now, is it doesn't matter that it's 3%. They're ticking time bombs. They're walking around shedding on everybody, causing the same problems over and over again. so then I go okay so now we really really really need to push on our governments to end this madness yeah you know it's like being in an inflatable raft and it's got a leak

we're all in the raft and it's not just it's not just the 3% that got the boosters I mean I got vaccinated. I can tell you that despite all of my diligent efforts, my spike antibody level has not gone below 7,500. And the range is zero to 25,000. So, I mean, I'm doing backwards flips. I'm like doing intermittent fasting.

I'm taking ivermectin. I'm taking resveratrol and spermidine. and NAC augmentedata, and I'm, you know, I'm doing everything that I know and that I share with patients to do to try and break down spike in my body. And yet there I sit, right? And there are 10% of my patients whose levels stay above 25,000. You know, they show signs that their genes, their genetic material has been modified and through no fault of their own. They appear to be ongoing spike producers.

And those people could just as easily be your parents, your grandparents, your brother, sister, your neighbor. It's just, it's like a dark game of poker. You got dealt a bad hand of cards. And those people are trying to decrease for their own survival. They're trying to decrease the amount of spike that they're making. And clearly, you know, if they really step back and think about it, they're wrestling with their own conscience about, oh, my goodness, I did this to myself, but I'm also now impacting my children, my parents, my spouse. As a father. Yeah, so point zero point zero is end it already, end the shots already, right?

you know, I think a growing number, you know, you'd think you'd, you'd hope it'd be 90% of people, it'd be like, end the shots. But I, I struggle with Scott that a lot of people have moved on, you know? I'm actually been rather disgruntled, I think, is the right word over the last little bit, because, you know, people have just moved on. And I, heck, I'd moved on for a long time. Right? Like, let's just not get back. back to normal. There's so many things going on. I don't even know what normal means anymore,

but I didn't think we had to worry about this. You're bringing it all the way back to the forefront. You did it last time. And with, with Denei Rancourt on and the 17 million worldwide number that off of his numbers, you know, and,

and just on and on it goes. It's like, okay, this is, hmm, okay, fine. Then I go as a father.

I got young, kids. And we never vaccinated any of the kids. And I just assumed they were free and clear. But I'm wondering, you know, like, so as a parent, what does a parent do here? Does he start testing his kids, right? Whether they bring them to leading edge and just start, like, making sure we keep control of the, you know, is what's the number, have a baseline. Oh, there is it, is it, you know, you'd mention practical things last, last time. And one of them was vitamin D. And so certainly getting vitamin D, especially here in Canada, here in Alberta specifically, where it was minus 42 with minus 50 wind chill.

And, you know, you didn't see the sun for a week. And you're like, yeah, we could probably use a little bit of that, right? Like, I think, I think that's a pretty common sense approach. But, I mean, kids are going to school. They're, you know, in day homes. They're in daycares. They're around tons of other people unless you're homeschooling. And even then, you're around your close-knick group.

How do you protect children from some of the things you're talking about? Well, one of the things that we figured out in our practice, I think at least a year ago, was that when you treat the family, you can help the patient get better. Right. And, you know, when I was studying to be an NP, you know, we had a class and family systems theory. And there's a lot of lip service in health care to treating the family system, not just the individual. Well, this really makes it real. you have some control over what's going on in your household and you know whether you and your spouse or if you're a single parent you know and you have a partner you've got a someone you date like the people who come into your home in the time that you're in your home with your child you have some control over what your body is contributing to their struggle right? So at the very least, as a parent, I think that you could be taken steps to minimize the amount of spike in your body, right? And we don't have to reinvent the wheel here. You know, you can go online to the FLCCC Alliance.

From my perspective in an internet that is chock full of just a very wide range of ideas about how you get rid of spike, you know, Dr. Paul Merrick is basically the guardian of scientific basis of anything that the FLCCC Alliance puts out. You know, so you go to that website and you look at their protocols and you look at what do I do, you can look at what do I do to prevent COVID or what do I do to treat COVID or what do I do for long haul and vaccine injury. And when you start looking at the things. therapeutics, you don't even necessarily have to look at the studies behind them, you can be curious.

You start to get a sense of what are the over-the-counter things that I can do and what would be safe and what can I do for children. One thing that's hopeful around children is that the bifidobacterium in a child's intestinal tract is much more abundant than it. is in an adult. So the older that we get, the less bifid a bacterium that we have. And that's one of the reasons why children have done so well across the board with the virus, right? And it really helps to protect them in many ways. It's not foolproof and it's not indefinite. But that's, that is a dynamic. And it's kind of, it's kind of funny, Sean, because last time when we were

ending and I mentioned vitamin D. You're like, well, how does that stuff taste and could I actually get a kid to take it? I think if you'll permit me to go into the weeds here. Go into the weeds, sir. Whereas what is on the FLCCC protocol is very vetted. It's got everything's got studies behind it. Dr. Merrick, he's like, thou shalt not pass, right?

Like, if it doesn't have studies behind it, if he can't put his stamp on it, like, this is base in science. It doesn't make it onto the protocols. Now, what I'm going to say is much more granular, right? If you look at the pyramid of evidence, expert opinion is at the very bottom, right? And the way that science and research evolves is you start with a single case, and then you go to multiple cases, and that's a case series. And then you go to an observational trial or study, right? So within our practice, where we've seen more than 4,000 patients, we try things. And one of the things that we've tried, and then we did a pilot study, and now we've been using it for hundreds of patients over more

than six months, is something that is cheap and simple and it's a food. And I'm going to demonstrate how hard it is. Okay, I'm shaking up my container. There we go. I just did it. It doesn't even taste bad. Have you ever heard of something called Bayobobob? Oh, I think you mentioned it last time, didn't you? I may have, but I don't know that I went into detail about it. In fairness, actually, no, I want to, I think Bayobo. Off screen. Yes. That's right. That's exactly what you did.

So here we go. I'm going to dip my toe into the water here, okay? So Beabab dates back to biblical times. Like if you read the Bible and they refer to the tree of life, some people think they're referring to Beabab. It's this really weird-looking tree that actually has a hollow center. How do you spell it? B-A-O-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B. And it's a tree that covers half the continent of Africa. And even though they may not have had the words for it back 2,000 years ago, it is an antiviral, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, fever lowering, wound healing, glucose metabolizing, bifidobacterium sponsoring, poison-neutralizing agent, which by the way, block spike-end.

entry into cells and helps break down microclops. And it's cheap. You can literally get a bag of it for like 13 bucks. You can buy it in Canada for now. For now. That's sad that American is making that joke. Oh, boy, that shows where we're at, folks. And you mix, if you've never done it before, I would suggest that you go low and slow.

You try like a quarter teaspoon in 16 ounce of water, but you work up to about a tablespoon in 60 ounce of water and you sip it. You don't drink it. You don't eat it. You sip it over the course of the day. And here's some of the pieces behind it. So the active ingredient in Beobob is EGCG, Epigalocatec and Gallate. And there's numerous studies that show that EGCCG in green tea. it actually prevents platelets from sticking to each other.

So, you know, aspirin keeps platelets from sticking to each other. It acts on something called the Cox 1 pathway. It's about 20% effective. EGCG is 90% effective at inhibiting platelets from sticking to each other. The other thing is that there was a study that showed that EGCG blocks spike entry into cell. right? So what we've seen in our practice where we measure microclotting and we measure spike antibody levels is that unvaccinated people, so I'm separating apples from oranges, unvaccinated individuals who take aspirin, they use natokinase, which is a soy base fermented

product to break down clots, they take ivermectin and they sip Beobob. they drop their microclotting score further and faster than anybody else, even people who are taking prescription anti-coagulation medication like Plavix and Elyquists. They'll drop their microclotting score on a scale of zero to four, four being the worst. They'll drop at two points in two or three months, whereas people who are on prescription anticoagulants will drop at one point in six months. So I'll tell you one other thing about it, which is really interesting.

As far as I know, there's still people in Africa that hunt with poison-tip spears and arrows. And when they take down that antelope or whatever the animal is that they hunt, they pull that spear or the arrow out of the flesh of the animal, and they mix Beobab powder with water and they put it on the wound because it neutralizes the poison so they can then eat the flesh. and there are many tribes that boil the seed of the Beobabob and have women drink it when they're pregnant because it helps promote a healthy pregnancy. So that range of therapeutics gives you some idea of what we're talking about, and it's a food.

So A by Beobab vitamin D3 or D3, or D3, vitamin D, not vitamin D3, um, those would be two. Like, I mean, when you get talking about Baobob, I'm like,

well, that just seems, does it taste awful? Like, I'm like, is that why nobody does it anymore? Or is it like, or you're just like,

no, it's fine. Um, to me, it tastes like something that you added light citrus to. It's got a pleasant flavor. It's just one of those forgotten hidden remedies is what you're saying. It's not forgotten in Africa.

I mean, it's, it's, it's been part of the culture and medicinal healing in Africa for 2,000 years. It's just that, and you know what there is, so I'll put a shout out for a company called Trim Healthy Mama. I don't have any financial interests in the company, but it's a, I'm going to say it's a Christian-oriented company, and it's out of Arkansas. and there's many sources of Beahub in the world,

but part of why I like that company is because the original patient zero who clued us in that this was a dynamic, was using their brand, and then I got to know the people that company, and they actually do third-party independent testing of Beahab, so it doesn't have lead, it doesn't have pesticides, and herbicides, it's not contaminated, right? it's an agricultural product

but you still might want to make sure that you get in the purest form of the agricultural product, right? Yeah, well, for sure. I guess I don't mean forgotten like in the entire world, but where we sit in the Western culture. It's not like anybody's throwing around the word Bayobob. Like I challenge the audience,

and I know I'm going to have a few texts here, so I know I've been using Bayobobab for a long time. But the first time I ever heard it was, it's funny, is after you, we were done last time. You brought it up to me. And then in the book club, that Beobob came up like literally two days later.

And I'm like, this is strange. Beobob, you know, because, you know, how long have I been on this planet? Almost 38 years, folks,

I'd never heard the word Bayobob. And I'm not saying it ain't at the local health food store and everything else. I'm just saying, in the common culture, Bayobob is not it. And when you hear everything that Scott just said, you're like, hmm,

that actually sounds rather intriguing. like maybe a guy should try that but I once again I'm like I'm sitting here I'm going I I feel maybe I'm wrong on this guy I feel like the first thing a guy should do is just get testing done or woman because you have no idea what the heck you're like how do I know if anything's working other than just by like how I feel I guess um you know like all of a sudden Bayobob you start taking it and all of a sudden you know Sean's beard gets a little shinier and he his hair grows a little faster, you know, like, what other can I see to know that it's doing anything? So if someone has a very high level of spike in their body and they've never done

anything to neutralize it, they will probably not have a great experience when they start sipping Beabobb, which is why I suggest exercising caution, low. And so, yes, so think of it this way. You go on a picnic, you unpack the basket, and the flies start circling, and the ants start coming, right? So you can either wave them away as you're munching your sandwich or assign someone to do that. But if you don't do anything, you'll be eating your sandwich and the flies on the other end of it. In our body, if we are making spike or if we were just in a situation where someone shed spike upon us, for a period of time, we can assume it's in circulation. in the blood, right? And then what it wants to do is get inside your cells. If you are sipping

Bayabob, and that's a really key piece because drinking it, I'll tell you that clinically, people who, in our pilot study, people who drank it, people who ate it, they didn't see a drop in their spike antibody, they didn't see clinical benefit. But sipping it, having this kind of drip, drip, drip amount of it in your system, it is literally blocking spike from entering cells. Like, I'm not pulling this out of my ear. I mean, the science is there around EGCG and Beobabab has EGC in it, Epigalica taking galley. And so if someone, think about it this way, if someone is a spike producer, they're like one of the 10% of people that we think is an ongoing spike producer. And now, now all of a sudden, you're blocking the spike from going into the cells,

it might not feel that great. Your body can't sequester the spike. Now it's got to deal with it, right? And ideally, what's going to happen is it's going to, it's going to send it to the liver. The liver is going to break it down. It's going to be broken into many different pieces, all of which are inflammatory.

And eventually things will settle out. But it's got to be treated with respect. And I think that that is testimony to the fact that it actually does something clinically that if someone doesn't treat it with respect and they've not done anything to neutralize spike in their body, they can feel really crappy for a week. You know, you're reminding me I took heavy doses of garlic. I was taking lots of garlic and a guy on it. super interesting.

And so I was like, oh, this, and I did not feel my 100% for quite some time. And my wife laughed at me. She's like, what are you doing? You're like slowly killing yourself with garlic. And I'm like, I don't know, I just wanted to experiment with it. But you know, you're raising a good point about it. I probably didn't respect it enough as what one should. And if I'd never done it before, somebody had said, oh, you're just, you're just, you know, cleaning your system out.

I'm like, well, I probably got a whole lot to clean out then. you know, if, and when you go back to this bail bob, wouldn't, and I'm, I'm just like, I'm thinking for myself. I'm just like, okay, I have, I have no idea. Honestly, Scott, I have zero clue right now if I have spike in my factory or if I'm crystal clean and I'm just, you know, dancing on stage. Like, it's no big deal. Chances are with what we've come through.

I have some is what I'm kind of leaning towards with everything you're talking about. So what is, what test do I go do? And I feel like I asked this last time. I'm going to re-ask it, but like, okay, Scott, what test do I take? Let's find this out. So having a clinician like myself that does what I do that can look at your labs with a knowing eye, you could do something as simple as a CBC, complete basic blood count and a complete metabolic panel, and we could look at it and I could say, yeah, you've got low normal platelets, your MCHC is elevated,

your carbon dioxide level is either very low or very high, you've got an elevated fast and glucose, which in medicine they say it's 100 or above, I would say above 85. There's some clues right there in what your GP would look at and say, well, that's normal. And I would say, you're clotting, right? You kind of look back at your labs from the past, a CMP and a CBC, which everybody has, basically. And why do I say that? I think one of the things my partner, Pierre-Core says about what makes someone a good clinician is pattern recognition, right? and when you've seen 4,000 patients and you've seen a lot of quote-unquote normal labs,

but you also have the very lengthy visit and history and the contact. You're like, oh, okay, this is what I see again and again and again, right? There is a test that we do in the States, like if you're near the border, and a lot of Canadians are not that far across the border, right? you literally come over into New York or wherever and you go to a lab core and you get a test called a spike antibody dilution. From my perspective, that is an incredibly useful test. I literally treat that like a speedometer on the dashboard. And the level is between zero and 25,000.

if you get a level that's above 25,000, danger, danger, Buck Rogers, okay? And what's the test called one more time, Scott? It's a SARS-CoV-2 spike antibody dilution. It's also an IGG. So it's an IGG is a type of immunoglobulin that reflects long-term antibody response. And, you know, the immunologist in the crowd that, of course, know better than me, or that's what they think, they'll say, well, that's just to measure somebody's immunity, and if you're anybody levels really high, that's great. And I would challenge

them and say all the people that were experts before the pandemic, even if they went to McGill and they've got a PhD in an MD, and they've got like 40 years of clinical experience, If they haven't been curious enough to learn the very basic information about spikopathy, then basically they are evaluating patients, making diagnosis, formulating treatment plans that are missing a huge part of the picture. Because the spike has affected every single cell in your body and every single body system. And the other test that is really definitive for us, and you'd probably have to come across the border to do this too. There's only one place in the United States that does it.

That's Dr. Jordan Vaughn's office in Birmingham, Alabama. They're just overloaded, right? Like, even us, I consider Jordan a close colleague. We send samples to Jordan, and we often don't get a result for a month or a month and a half. And I can't complain about his customer service because that's the only place in the United States that does it. But that is a – there should be some enterprising person in Canada that buys an electron microscope and learns how to do testing of amylid fiber and microclotting. Just do it. Some entrepreneurial Canadian should do that because all of us are microclotting.

All of us. The control is gone. Whereas pre-pandemic researchers knew what microclotting was. No clinician knew what it was. But there were researchers that saw that if a person is diabetic, their diabetes is poorly controlled, and when there's that high level of sugar in the blood, the red blood cells want to stick to each other. It's called hemaglutination. On a scale of zero to four, they might have been at 0.5, right?

but the baseline in our population right now is a one right the lowest we will see in anybody's a one and most of my patients are like a three three and a half and a four the the thing that i would say about whether you feel normal or not which and i think i said this to you last time like even even the person who has the tiniest amount of knowledge about medical care has heard the phrase that high blood pressure is a silent killer. Is that fair? That's fair. To say that, I would say the new version is microclotting is a silent killer because we all have microclotting and the two words that were not in the medical vernacular before the pandemic are microclotting and kerbo cancers and the two are intimately related, right? So you may feel fine.

that doesn't mean that what's going on under the hood is good. I think when you talk about under the hood, I think more of us need to take a look. But here in Canada, it feels like, and maybe I'm wrong. And maybe, you know, like I can just hear Seth Bloom just firing away on his texting me right now. but you know like it's funny you know um i don't and i you know once again to the audience i'm

like maybe they know of 50 different places in canada that i should be talking to i just it doesn't seem to come through the text line near as much or i maybe maybe i'm dense folks like i don't want to say there's nowhere in canada i just go it doesn't seem like this conversation is happening that much or anyone knows where to go to even get started. Now, in saying that, Seth Bloom, as you know, we talked about him the first time around with his daughter McKenzie, I feel like every time I have a question when it comes to some of this stuff, and I don't talk to a doctor, I talk to somebody who's been living and walking through it, he's usually got lots of good options. And there's other people like that.

It's just, you know, you talk about microclotting. It's like, okay, well, then we should all be taking a look under the hood. It should be almost like a physical. It's like, what's the big deal? just let's just go to take a look and at the end of the day you go oh okay right i got a little bit i got none i got a ton i don't know right do i do i need to do i need to start sipping some some some i can't even remember the word now bobebbao bab you know boba i wrote it down wrong you know i can't even write down the word you know but anyways it's just to me knowing what you're dealing with is that starts to take away the the gray zone of this. It's like, oh, we're all walking around with microclots.

I don't know. How, you know, like, have you guys seen a difference when it comes to New York City to Lloydminster, Alberta? You know, when we talk about what were the four Ds you told me in the first go around? Density duration draft and dimensions. I mean, I'm sitting in an outpost. I'm in the middle of nowhere with minus 42 that has to change the scope of what we're talking about somewhat. what. Agreed. On the other hand, I think that, you know, I don't have a number, but I have a sense because I have Canadian patients in every province. And the amount of inertia that a Canadian citizen has to overcome to get not just an honest conversation, because forget that. There's just like a handful of Canadian practitioners that I'd met who are just courageous

and will speak honestly with their patients, but actually get health care that addresses the pathology. So what that means to me is that you've got... millions of people who have pathologies of long COVID and vaccine injury and they're not getting treatment. And so, you know, whereas here in the United States, at least there's tens of thousands of people that are actively reducing the spike in their bodies, so they're decreasing the contribution they're making to shedding. In Canada, like, that's, I don't think that that's happening to the same degree. So yeah, I mean, if you live in an outpost in Saskatchewan,

I think your odds are much better in terms of shedding and microclotting. But if you really wanted to go somewhere in the world where I don't think this would be an issue, I think it'd be like East Africa or Nigeria, right? You go to a place where like where 1% of the population and got vaccinated. And then we might check their blood and say, okay, they're not. Mike McLaughlin.

Well, it's interesting. It's very, very, very, very interesting. You know, I'm curious your thoughts on this. So I've had a string of people on, and this goes on for more over than the last month. But, you know, the idea is, one, COVID was a real thing. COVID was the flu.

And you either have, you know, COVID or a vaccine-induced COVID that was way worse than what the predecessor was. Does that make at all sense? And do you have any thoughts on it? I'm sorry, but my battery's going low. So I'm probably going to have to switch to speaker phone for a second. So can you run that by me again? Because that didn't quite make sense to me. Well, when COVID first comes through, people say it was just the flu.

There was nothing more than the flu. There was nothing there. It didn't kill a whole bunch of people. You know, it was blown out of proportion. I have people reach out who are in the hospital, say we had no patients. On and on it goes. And then the vaccine comes out, and all of a sudden there's a spike in all-caused mortality and people dying and all these different things. And then I have the opposite where they said, oh, no, it was.

was definitely a real thing and then the vaccine contributed it to it. And I go, you deal with all of it, all the vaccine injured, all the long COVID, all the different things, although maybe the long COVID is in part with the vaccine. I'm just wondering from your spot, do you look at COVID if you take out before the vaccines were rolled out as that was its own separate thing? It was serious. and not that all the mandates and everything was justifiable, but that real was a beast.

It was different than the flu. So I was working in a level one trauma center at SUNYEP State Medical University at the beginning of the pandemic. And I got, in retrospect, I got COVID in February of 2020. And from my front row seat, I can tell you that that was not like any flu I've ever seen in 30 years in health care, you know, because, you know, I was a trauma nurse, right? I'm not, I'm not a adrenaline junkie. Like, I'm one of the kind of people that you want in the trauma room because I am kind of.

And I, you know, I kind of try to go by the book, the closed loop communication. A doctor says, okay, we need to administer EPI now. And I say, okay, epi in, right? I was seeing things I had never seen in my career. I was seeing 20-year-olds, 30-year-olds who had been physically healthy eating. well, non-smoking, non-drinking, rolling in on ambulance stretchers, getting intubated emergently in the hallway, right? I have, in my entire career, I've been present when people have died, when there have been failed resuscitations. I've never seen anything like that

in my entire life. And, you know, you can. And so there's that, right? There's the lived experience. You know, if you talk to people like my partner, Pierre Corrie, who was working as a pulmonologist in ICU's at the time, the level of clotting that we saw in people's bodies with the initial variance was horrendous, right? And then you can look at the writing of someone like Dr. Luke Montagnet,

who, God rest his soul, who passed away, but the Frenchman, Nobel Prize winning Frenchman, and one of his last contributions to science and medicine was a paper that looked at the amino acids in the original variant, the Wuhan variant, that coded for prion disease, Crushfaldiakov disease, right? And understand that not just in terms of the immediate effect of, the virus, but also because every single vaccine that's been made from that point forward has included genetics of the Wuhan variant. So they all have those 30 amino acids that code for prion disease. You talk about a ticking time bomb.

You know what Dr. Montagnet is very, very dark, right? What Dr. Montaigne was saying was saying was saying was. because everyone that got the variant up until Omicron, and everyone that's gotten the vaccine from the beginning to the present moment, has been exposed to 30 amino acids that code for prion disease. Forgive me, what is prion disease? People often refer to it as mad cow disease. That's not exactly correct, but basically it's a terminal neurodosephysic.

degenerative disease that basically turned your brain to mush, right? And before the pandemic, it was something that demographically it would happen in like one in a million. So annually in the United States, you might see 330 people, right? In our practice alone, between me and Pierre, we've had four patients with Khrsfeld-Diakab disease, right, like validated on autopsy. Right. The way that you establish whether or not someone's got CDD is you do a brain biopsy or you do an autopsy. So, and part of what Dr. Montaigne was, am I answering the question or am I going too far into the way? Let me just stop myself for a second. No, you're not going too far in the weeds. I'm trying to keep up. That's probably why I'm like squinting and going, okay, this is not what I thought you were going to say.

no carry on i you're definitely um i don't even know how to carry on because i'm trying to formulate uh what you're what you're what you're what you're saying in a different because because this seems to be one of the biggest arguments out there right COVID wasn't real there was nothing there they just locked us down jabbed is full of an experimental drug that's now killing everybody so when you come on and say you know what everybody needs to worry about spike and everything else and blah-da-da-da, and on and on, I'm like, I understand where you're trying to,

and all I'm trying to get to is in the beginning, was it something, because what I'm trying to spit out is I wrote it down right at the start. I don't know what you said, but you said something along, so I'm like, does he think COVID is different than the COVID vaccine after math? And that's what I'm just trying to figure out.

and and then if COVID was real, how bad was it? And did it need? And you're just taking me somewhere that I did not realize where we're going to go. That's all my face, you know, to the person not watching, I'm sitting here and I probably look like I'm a deer in a headlights. So, okay, so let me go back to the question. COVID was absolutely real. it did not have to be that deadly.

We knew before the pandemic from previous research around coronaviruses that hydroxychloroquine and iverbectin were effective medications, right? So the horrific experiences that I had working in the emergency department helping to intubate 20-year-olds, watching young people die, suffocate to death, right? That did not need to happen, right? We didn't need to mass manufacture ventilators. We didn't need to lockdown, isolate, right?

We really could have done what, you know, what Uttar Pradesh did, right, in India. That is just like a miracle of concerted, rational public health, where they basically ended the pandemic by using Ivermactin. Right. So absolutely. So then Scott, so you talk about like in your career, you've never seen anybody like dropping down like they were at the start of COVID. But you would also agree that if you were given the tools of Ivermectin and things like

that a lot of that could have been taken away with 100% absolutely we just would not have been it it just it would have been a non-event right i mean you know what they did in utah pradesh they published coupons in the paper you could take the coupon to a pharmacy and get a covid prevention kit right well and and the other one i pointed out was was um mexico Mexico had the kiosk where you could go down to a kiosk and get given ivermectin among other things i'm like this is brilliant why aren't we doing things like that so when i come all the way full circle around what you're talking about was it bad yes but we weren't treating it the way that it should have been so then i go so actually how bad was it then if you know if you just had typical pneumonia or i don't

know and you just I don't know if pneumonia is the right one scott you can you can toss that wherever you want but we did nothing to treat it because we said well we can't do that we can't use those things how bad would it look and would that skew your uh experience of it and i'm being i have no i'm to me i'm just like here's a guy who was on the front lines who saw it firsthand and one breath is saying it was it was it was horrific um what i saw and i i get that on the next breath though it's like but if i given ivermectin it would have been a non-issue i'm just trying to make sense of those two statements so um i'll give you an example um so where i worked at tunie upstate god bless him there was a colleague of mine another um nurse and the the trauma center um

somehow we somehow we fell into conversation with each other and realized we were both interested in Ivermectin. And almost on the same day, we both started taking Ivermectin horse paste, right? And so his brother is a police officer. And, and his brother got COVID really early on. I'm going to say this is like, well, it's not that early on because it would have been like January of 2020. Yeah, it would have been like January, February of 2021. And in the early variants of COVID, you could literally give Ivermactin to someone who was in distress and pull up a chair. And it was like watching a slow TV show. I mean, and so with this colleague whose brother was a police officer, that's what happened.

like the guy was in distress. Like he was short of breath. He had chest pain. He was he was febrile. He was having muscle and joint aches. And we gave him horse paste and sat there with him. And I swear, you know, in two hours, the guy was like, I feel great. I'm going to call back in and let this sergeant know I can work tonight.

And it was just like breathtaking. And it was from that point forward, it became more and more excruciating for me to work in that setting, which is why I finally had to leave. Because when you know that something is that effective that quickly, what is it due to your,

it's moral injury. What is it due to your soul? Yeah. To participate in in negligent care that basically, I think, amounts to murder of people. Okay. I'm pulling you all along on my train of thought here. So just bear with me because I want to make sure that. So Ivermectin, clear as day, your eyes works. You see it literally, you're like, holy man, this is like unbelievable. This is exactly what Pierre Corrie's talking about. Yeah. Among other things. Yeah, we're not allowed to use it. You're sitting there in the trauma center going like, these people are dying horrific deaths, like horrific.

But we're not using the right thing to cure them. Thank you. Yeah. Prevent you. So if we had a ton of people working in there, which we did, that had no idea. idea about the abermactin, thought it was horse-paced and thought you were insane for even suggesting something. They would have come out of there. Like, that was the worst thing I've ever seen. That was a pandemic of epic proportions. And they would be almost impossible to convince

otherwise that it wasn't that. Am I wrong on my train of thought there? I think you're right. And these are, you know, when I go to Quaker meeting on Sunday, and I'm kind of like, I'm trying to get with God and think about, am I doing your will? Like, or is it my ego, right? And one of the things that I think about, the people that I think about are those colleagues of mine, And people who I loved past tense, respected past tense, who somehow or other, they need to reconcile what they knew and did then and what is emerging now.

And an interesting thing that speaks to what you're saying, I have a patient, I haven't talked to her for a long time, but I have a patient who's an amazing internal medicine, ED doc from New York City, who worked at Cornell Wilde in New York City. And she had to go into the hospital as a patient about a year ago. And she said, you know, Scott, what I saw was this mental and emotional dissonance in the doctors who are caring for me, right? That they, it's basically the provocation of mental illness, right? Because if you're an intelligent, observant human being, you're medically trained and you're working in the system and you're starting to get a clue, like, hey, what we're doing is not helping.

And you start to get a clue that, hey, there might be other things that we can do, but you keep on going along with it. you're going to have to compartmentalize, right? And there is moral injury, right? One of the things that I wonder is like, what's going to happen someday, you know, when really, if there is a reckoning, like, are we going to have a bunch of physicians committing suicide because they're just like, you know what? I can't, I can't bring these two things together, right? I can't reconcile myself to the fact that I participated in basically perpetrating the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands of patients under my care, right? Because I told them to do things that actually injured them, and I prevented them from doing things that actually could have kept them from getting sick and dying.

And I don't know the answer to that. I just think it's really important, I guess, you know, to, I've been trying to, you know, I've talked to so many different people now. Some are like, it was the word, you know, is this, it was that, it was this other thing. Some knew it was coming from 10 years ago. I'm probably going to get my phone line lit up because everyone's going to be like, this is this is, this is this is this is. I'm talking to somebody who's on the front lines, folks.

And in one breath, you're saying it was the worst thing you've ever seen. And the next breath you're saying, but I watched Ivermectin in front of me change a person's trajectory. Like, wow. We talk about Ivor Pradesh. We talk about Mexico. We talk about all these different places that started implementing Ivermectin. I can safely say on the audience, there's a ton of people who leaned into Ivermectin, like a ton. And they have their own stories.

And so you go, okay, COVID was just a flu. and when you don't, and I'm actually looking for your thoughts on this, Scott, because I'll say it all over again. COVID was just another flu, maybe a man-made flu, but a flu, that if treated with the right things, was just another flu. But if left to its own devices and no medical care, like no health care, no nothing, you died a horrific death. And in some cases, with some of the medical interventions, died even a worse death. Yeah. Would you agree with that? I would agree with 90% of it.

The thing that I would tuss or suss out of that is that the flu does not cause Krishfeld-Yakab disease. The flu doesn't contain 30 amino acids that are basically going to cause you to your brain to turn to mush. So this is the avenue you were taking me down when you're like, am I answering the question? And I was like, you're taking me down. somewhere I didn't want to go. And I want to, okay, this, right here.

This is, is this the manmade part where you're like, this makes zero sense for it being in there? Yes, we could cure it. But preons disease, like, what the heck is that doing there? Yeah. Lead me down this path. And let me, I'm not going to interrupt this time, because now we are at a point where you can, yeah, everything makes sense except for this little part. What is that part?

Yeah. So, uh, I'm going to ballpark this. I want to say, like, if you go along the amino acids of the, I think it's the spike. And I think it's like between number 470 and 500, right? There are 30 amino acids that code for prion disease. What does that mean they code for it? It means it's like a recipe and that may or may not be reproduced in your body. You don't know, right?

And, you know, you can look at Dr. Montanier's pay. Well, maybe you can't because I don't know if you know there was a press conference in Japan, I think it was yesterday or the day before, where. this panel of researchers basically said, hey, we've really looked into the vaccine and this is super bad and it needs to stop now, right? And one of the things that they showed in their press conference was a copy of this article. I think it came out in February of 20, I think it was February of 2022 from Dr. Montanier. And in that scholarly article where he looked at the MRANA vaccines, he looked at the J&J vaccines, and he looked at the Wuhan virus, and he's like, look, this is 30 amino acids on all of these variants, right?

And then all these vaccines consistent. And then he went through these case studies from France of people that had Khrzfeld-Diakov disease, and it was dozens of people. and they even had 16 case studies from the United States, right? There were two people in the French national government structure that were basically bench scientists that were expert in Christelte-Yacob disease. and whereas between say 1997 and 2017 there were like I don't know let's say I don't remember the exact numbers let's say that there were like 50 people of Christophil Diacob disease over a period of like 15 years in France in the first six months after after they rolled out the vaccine they had 50 cases of Christoph's in Kreschfeld-Yacob disease in six months. And this is super dark. This is like worthy of a Robert Ludlam novel.

Those two experts on Khrushfeld-Yacob disease and the French government, somehow they turned up dead. And so the French government basically stopped looking into Khrmelt-Yacob disease. That was awfully convenient, right? The two experts said, Chris like out. Somehow they both just happened to die. Why the heck would they?

I don't know. This is the parts of the story that don't make any sense to me, folks. I'm just like, so they killed two doctors who were experts in it. Why? The damage is already done. And I'm not saying that they killed them. I'm just saying it's really. No, no, no.

I understand that. But I get what you're saying. It's like, hmm. Really? Suspicious. Suspicious. Both are gone. on experts. And they didn't say, hey, well, we need to get two more experts in here.

They're just like, oh, well, we don't, both of our experts in Christchal-Diakab disease died. So we're just, we're not going to look at that anymore, right? And so, so the first patient that I had, you know, her family is a, is a faithful Catholic family. It's a big family. And this patient was in her 70s. she was in she was in the prime of her life she she was gardening she was traveling she had grandkids that she loved she's going to church she had a loving husband uh and she got a booster and literally within a week she became incoherent she she went from zero to a hundred in like a week and a half. Like, she acted like someone who was demented, had Parkinson's and MS all wrapped up into one, right?

She went into a coma. They took her to the hospital. And there was a daughter in the family that was, she knew about the FLCCC. She contacted us, and she was really lobbying to try and get me to have a conversation with the neurologists. And I said, she's got Christfelt. Yeah. of disease. And the neurologists were like, yeah, no way, no hell like you're crazy, right? Like, they had, they had, they couldn't tell you what she had. They worked her up six ways to Sunday, right? MRIs and blood testing up the wazoo. And, you know, what they did was, was beyond immoral. It was sinful and it was criminal. And they had her on, they had no evidence of seizures. They put her on anti-seizure medication. They had her totally gorked, right? And what I proposed to the family,

which was really being browbeaten by the medical staff of this New York City Hospital, what I was saying was, well, listen, you don't think you can do anything for her. You've basically told the family she's terminal and she should be discharged home to hospice. Can we release her now? they can bring her home and we can actually treat her with the things that we know might help, right? And what they did instead was they dragged their feet.

Even after they told the family, she's going to die, she should go to hospice. They kept her in the ICU for another week. And then they finally discharge her home and she died a couple days later, right? And this daughter pursued

testing of her brain. And the neurologists were like, No way, no how that she's got Christchelt-Yacob disease because that's a one-in-a-million diagnosis. And I was like, yeah, no kidding. But that's clinically speaking, I'll say from a distance, not a neurologist, but I read Montaigne's paper. That's what's happening, right? And so her brain after death got sent to a lab in New York City. They did the pathological studies.

Guess what? she had Cresfeld-Yacob disease. Is that the only way you could tell if that's what it is, you'd mention this very close to the start, I think, is by testing the brain? Like, is there a way when she was alive to test for that? They could have done a biopsy on her when she was alive, which would involve, you know, basically brain surgery.

They have to. But serious. The only way is through the brain to really get down to the finer. Definitely. Is that something that happened? forgive me, this disease, is it like,

you mentioned with a 70-year-old woman, I think it was 70, that she went from zero to 100 in, you know, like a week. Is that something that can happen over the course of like five years? Or is that,

that specific one happens real fast? Well, well, that's where this gets really, really scary because, um, first of all, if you look at the case studies from Dr.

Montaigne, um, on, in general, the people who died were women between the ages of 60 and 70. The rapid onset of symptoms was more or less within 11 days, and they typically died within four months, right? But my colleague, Dr. Suzanne Gazza, who from my money,

she's like one of two awake neurologists in North America, right? The other is a colleague in New York City. who's a pediatric neurologist, but Dr. Gaza, I think, has no shortage of patients of Khrsvald-Diakop disease, right? And that is basically a possibility for any of us that had COVID before Omicron and absolutely any of us that got even one vaccine. so that leans that leans back to to the the first variant um when it came through as being manmade because it had something in there that you're like yeah 90% of what i've formulated as a hypothesis if i would um makes sense there's only this small part and you're talking about the the 30 and i'm forgetting the term you used in the genetic sequence of it yeah that just don't

they make zero sense and that zero set and you're saying that wouldn't be in the regular flu like those would not happen no and i'll tell you something else that's really super interesting is that um when the first variant of omacron appeared guess what disappeared the 30 and this is just not how things work in nature like you don't you don't go you don't go from 30 to none in a period of months, right? So when you sit back and you sit there and you're in your study and you're drinking your, and once again, I forgot the word, but boat. What of these times I'm going to get that word right? You're sipping on it.

What hypothesis do you have on that? Well, I start from, it's not an accident. And it's, you know, there's a paper trail. I don't, I don't subscribe to everything that, that they say, the Braggins, Dr. Peter and Ginger Bragan. And I really, really don't appreciate that they spoke disparagingly of our esteemed colleague, Dr. Robert Malone. I hesitate to call him a colleague. I mean, he's a giant, right? I'm just a guy in the trenches.

But the Braganz wrote a very thick, well-documented book called COVID-19, the global predator. We Are the Prey. It offers a perspective, right? In that book that they wrote, you know, they kind of lay out the paper trail. The documents going back to the 20 teens. of the lab scientists that were evolving, what ended up becoming the Wuhan strain, right? You know, and you can go to,

you can go to documents that are in the public domain, like from DARPA, where they show. Like they were experimenting with vaccine technology through jail application, through aerosol and through injection, right? There's really, there's really smart people that were working on this. It sure looks intentional. I can't hear you.

Well, that's because I muted myself, Scott. I muted myself. For the listener, we're going to switch over to Substact for the last couple minutes. I appreciate Scott hopping on with me yet again. It has not been dull whatsoever. I hope people have enjoyed it, but we're going to switch over to Substack and do the last portion there. So if you hold on, Scott, we're going to take a quick little break. And for the listener, come on over to Substack.

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