Shaun Newman Podcast - #576 - Tom Luongo & Alex Krainer 11.0

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Tom is a former research chemist, amateur dairy goat farmer, libertarian and economist whos work can be found on sites like zero hedge and Newsmax media. He hosts the Gold Goats ‘n Guns podcast. Alex is a Croatian national, former hedge fund manager, author and contributing editor at Zero Hedge.  We discuss the World Economic Forum, the evolving situation at the Texas border and the growing farmer protests across Europe.   Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastE-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Phone [phone] – general sales line, ask for Grahame and be sure to let us know you’re an SNP listener.

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So I guess that just means we have to get on to that tale of the tape. The first is a former research chemist, amateur dairy goat farmer, libertarian, and economist, whose work can be found on sites like Zero Hedge, Newsmax Media, and he also does the Gold, Goats, and Guns podcast. The second, a Croatian national, former hedge fund manager, author, contributing editor at Zero Hedge. I'm talking about Tom Lowongle and Alex Craneer. So buckle up. Here we go.

All right, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Tom Longo, Alex Craneer. I think everybody at this point knows you two boys. this is the 11th time. The 11th time, fellows, we've done this. So it's been once a month. Yeah.

And you know, it's funny. I did the top 25 episodes of something I started in 2022 and I did in 2020. And the only guy to outperform you was Martin Armstrong. So, I mean, and it was his first time on the show that episode kind of went ballistic. So you're always at the top of the charts when it comes to bringing you guys on. Now, since you guys have been on, like, I don't know, you're staring at the world going like, what more can happen? And probably, I was thinking we'd start with the world economic form because that has been an absolute banger of people just coming in and some of the things being said there and everything else, unless there's something more prominent than that, by all means. okay with i'm okay with you know picking on the w ef it's fun like you know the like dude like

you know crapping all over the convocation of globalist vampires like when they're out of their their graves like of course like you know let's stump on them a little bit that's what we should do so i i'm happy to do that right all right go go mr long ago okay give them well i mean Fair enough. You know, I really, it was funny. You know, I had my doubts about Javier Millet from Argentina because he seemed too good to be true, right? And then there's always the other side of that, which is that, you know, they only like a guy like that, you know, into power so that they can destroy him so that they can destroy the ideas that he represents, right? And so as a, you know, as an Australobitarian, you know, in many ways, I'm like, oh, I can see this coming a mile away because I've seen this show before.

I've seen it here in the United States, right? I've seen them do this to various people. I saw them do it to Ron Paul early on. And thankfully, because Ron is Ron, he wasn't capable. They weren't able to really destroy him, right? As a matter of fact, the more they attacked him, the stronger he got, kind of like Trump. So to see me a go to Davos and basically, you know, him and Jamie Diamond both kind of go to Davos with a big bag of poop, you know, with an M80 in the middle of it and light it on fire and then, you know, have it explode all over the room was great, rhetorically speaking. I mean, Jamie Diamond, the CEO of JP Morgan did the exact same thing.

I mean, he, you know, last year he was kind of gentle about it. And he just said, oh, by the way, I peed in the bushes over there. this year diamond went in and went and just like this literally told him look um get ready for trump what is wrong with trump what's wrong with you what are you doing blah blah blah blah so it was great so far and then you had the guy from the heritage foundation sit down in a panel you know quarterroy jacket the the the patches on the elbows the whole nine yards look in the very model of a modern you know conservative intellectual and then then just, you know, give it to them, you know, with both barrels without raising his voice, you know, and it was great.

I mean, all of those things together, I think gave you, you know, I mean, we've been seeing this thing going on for a while with Davos. I've had people tell me for a couple of years now. I've had people, you know, DM me and email me behind the scenes saying, look, I was there. Like, I was at Davos. I work, you know, I'm a secretary for this one or that one and whatever. And all of the people, the underlings for the last three or four years, been like this place doesn't work. You know, and it's no longer what it was, which was the means by which all the, the, the, the, the, the best people in the world, um, got together and planned out the future of, of, of the world.

Now, now it's more like a, really, are we still doing this? Right. I mean, I don't know. You've ever, like, been to conferences that peaked, right? In popularity and then started to fall off in those, those, those first three or four years, what it wasn't as good. Like, yeah, and then you're still holding on to it. Yeah, that's kind of what Davos is beginning to feel like now.

And I think that's what we're going to, I think it's only going to get worse from here. There's certain things that just go through cycles and peaks. And this is kind of, you know, you talked about Martin, you brought up Marty Armstrong earlier and the cycle. And Marty's most best known for cycles work, where everything has a cycle to it. Everything has a peak and then goes through. And one of the things that, you know, Martin is really good at charting is like, He shows it across every idiot. Like, you know,

and the thing that's popping into my head right now, since we're, you know, really close to it is the Super Bowl. Like, we're on the downside of, you know, of professional sports as a thing that is, that has a life of his own. It's on the downside. People's priorities are shifting.

Professional sports itself at every level has reached its crescendo, just like Hollywood treats its crescendo, just like so many things, that you could argue were are the function of crappy cheap money and then at the end of the day once the bills start to become

overwhelm the ability of the cheap money to keep the party going once the bill comes due and everybody's like oh this is not good that's when people's priorities start to shift and that's why we're seeing what we're seeing around the world the protest Texas this, all of this stuff. It all ties into this kind of peak corrupt money. Right. And I don't know that we're,

yeah, and I'll leave it there for now. Alex, what are you like? Yeah, I think that in addition to Millay and Jamie Diamond and the other gentleman, I think that maybe even more impressive was the way that the other participants of the, of the World Economic, form discredit themselves by just tossing these incoherent word salads. They don't mean anything. They're just exercising eloquence for the sake of exercising eloquence, but they're not saying anything. Or if they're saying anything there, it would be better if they didn't because they

sound like morons. And I promise you, I tweeted one day that this gathering should be renamed as Morons International because that's what comes through. And I'm not, you know, I've been very unimpressed with Davos for a very long time, many years, because I get hedge fund managers going there to try to raise money. I get people trying to network, meet other people in order to, you know, everybody has a pet project and maybe, you know, further your agenda and your plans and whatever. I get that, you know, you want to network. That's legit. But the content of those conferences always struck me as people who don't really live on this planet.

People who are living in fantasy land of this. On the one hand, you have people with money with very grandiose megalomaniacal plans. And on the other hand, you have this academic expert class who wants their money. They want the grants and the funding. So the one side tells the other side a fairy tale that the other side is willing to believe and then they give them the money to pursue that fairy tale. And then they make presentations and then these people with money retain what they want of those presentations, the parts they like best. And then they give all these eloquent speeches but they have no idea what they're talking about.

You know, the best example of this, the best example from I think last year or maybe a few years ago was when Klaus Schwab has under the guy from from Google, Sergey Brin, he has Sergei Bryn on stage and okay so Sergei Bryn, whatever you think of them, the man knows technology. He understands technology and Klaus Schwab has no idea what he's talking about. So Klaus Schwab asks him like, oh, do you do you think that maybe 10 years from now we're all going I have brain implants and I will be able to read the audience through my wireless brain implant, blah, blah, blah. And if you know anything about technology, you would be profoundly embarrassed for Klaus Schwab

because he's really stupid to be even formulating such a question. And then you see Seger and brain kind of like take 30 seconds to formulate something to save Klaus Schwab's face, but to give an answer. and he's like, yeah, I can envision that. You know, if I was sitting in a movie theater watching a stupid sci-fi fiction movie, maybe I can envision it. He gives an answer, but you could really see the disconnect.

Klaus Schwab has money and power, but he has no idea. And that's the whole cohort. They have these fantasies about the world that they want to shape, but they don't understand what they're actually. trying to accomplish. So of course it's coming apart and it's starting to the farther it goes, the more embarrassing it becomes. And so, you know, the more they're going to have these experiences that somebody's going to come along and put them in their place and that they're going to pretend that they didn't understand that they didn't hear. And it's going to go, as you said,

Tom, until, you know, like they're past their peak and it's going to continue until people stop showing up because they don't want to be associated with that crowd. Yeah, Alex, I think that's a, those are really strong points about this, is that there's this, there really is a massive disconnect between these ivory tower intellectuals who have, you know, like when you don't have anything to do other than sit around and sit if your own farts to, you know, then that's what you wind up doing. And then you wind up getting high on them. And then you wind up thinking, oh my God, that doesn't smell that bad. Really. I mean, it doesn't. Do you think, don't you? It's not too bad. Like, I had broccoli last night as opposed to, you know, and we can just fine tune that and then we can eventually get that to sweet-smelling parts.

It doesn't work that way, right? So, I mean, you know, methane is methane and bacteria is bacteria. And so you can feed it, you know, sugar. It just gross. So that's what we've got. And, you know, the money is the, and the money is the sugar. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's where we are, right?

So I, you know, that's the, the part that's funny is because I think that, you know, again, three, four, five years ago, it was only people like Alex Jones and others who were watching these people and reporting on it that mattered. And, you know, I got turned on to this stuff about seven. I hit, it hit me about six, seven years ago, right? Right. During the, the backlash during the Trump campaign for president. And it was at that point and I'm like, okay, what's going on here? I know he's known George Soros was kind of creepy and Bill Gates was kind of creepy, but I didn't like see it that way, right?

I was working on other things. I was trying to understand the geopolitical chess board. I was trying to understand other things. And so as you go along, you're like, oh, no, it's, every time these guys get together, like, they're, you know, we then start to see policy ideas coming out of the mouths of policymakers. And we're like, oh, that's where it comes from. And I'm sorry, and I'll admit if I'm late to the party and there are people in the audience who've known this stuff for 35 years and, you know, bully for you, great.

That's outstanding. Because if it wasn't for you being there then, then I wouldn't be here. And Alex and Sean and I wouldn't be here not talking about it and trying to popularize this stuff and help and help create the critical mass so that when we get to Davos 2020 last year, 2033 last year and this year, you know, have a critical mass of people going, suck what? what did he just say? These are the people who are supposed to be like one in the world? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And then it's, and, and it's, you know, I, as a chemist, I see things in terms of activation energy, right? So, and it's everything. I see everything this way that in some processes are spontaneous. They just happen. You put, you know, you put salt and water. It dissociates. You get salt water. But there are other reactions that take.

a lot of energy to get the reactions to go. There's a big barrier to that. That's what we call, what we chemists call the activation energy. And that's not necessarily, you know, you don't necessarily see it show up in the Gips free energy equation, but it's that barrier. And then once you get over that barrier, then the reaction can take place. So, you know, this plus this and then a big arrow, you know, we've also seen chemical equations, this plus this, big arrow, this.

Well, over that big arrow, sometimes it's a big arrow. big delta energy that is necessary to get the thing to go. And then once it goes, the process gives off so much energy that it becomes self-sustaining and then runs to completion until all the reactants become products. Well, guess what, folks? You know, people's inertia, their normalcy bias, their ability and time and to understand the stuff or to be able to understand this stuff, that's activation energy. So the cloud swabs of the world, and their understanding is what needs a huge activation energy, while the goshwams of the world take the easy stuff and just keep pushing,

pushing, pushing. And eventually we get to a point where enough people start to see it because the costs of going along with the status quo rise to the point where now everybody is engaged, where it's now affecting them personally. It's affecting their community personally or whatever. And that's when, and everybody has a different threshold for this. And they all contribute to the activation energy of the society saying, you know what?

No, we're not doing this. We're not going to do this. We're not going to stay on, we're not going to allow, we're not going to stay on this side of the equation where we're just a bunch of reactors looking for different things to, to react with. No, we're going this path. This path is the one that's energetically favorable. And it's analogous. to the argument about, the analogous to the Hemingway argument about going broke. How did you go broke?

You know, suddenly and, you know, slowly and then suddenly, right? Right. Slowly and then all at once, effectively. And it's that kind of thing. It's that kind of, we see that everywhere. So, and then you hit these tipping points and then we move on. You know, Malcolm Ladrells talked about it in terms of like tipping points, societal movements, and you can talk about this in terms of voter preference and what it takes for a new idea to push through the zeitgeist until a certain number of people reach critical mass. They've done a lot of work on this. Roughly 16% is the number, right, of adoption and of an idea or a thing or a product

or a political movement or whatever. And then it has to cross the gap between the 16% mark and becoming a big thing. That gap is the activation energy. And then invariably, at some point, the marketing of the product. has to change or the marketing of the political party has to change and then it can become a national movement. Let's take the last thing. This is my last point on this when I'll turn the microphone back over is think of the IF or the alternative for Germany in Germany that party. That party moved up to the 16% level in the run up to the 2017 elections, but they couldn't break through, right?

because they got to 16% on being the anti-merkel party. But that wasn't enough to take them to the, we're going to save Germany party because they didn't rebrand themselves to become the, we need to save Germany party, not we need to stop Angela Merkel. They were right that they needed to stop Angela Merkel, but it was a wrong message to go from 16% to 30%. And so they pushed up as a protest vote and then they pushed back, right? Now in Germany, you see, you see,

You see they have rebranded themselves as truly an alternative path that Germany needs to take. And now they're pulling 23% nationally and upwards of 35% or 40% and some of the states. That's the difference. That's activation. And, you know, I wrote about this years ago. I wrote an article about AFD in the 16% chasm years ago explaining this exact thing. And it's the same process over and over and over again. And Davos has now reached the point where we crossed the 16% chasm.

Everybody gets it. and people are going to start rejecting it. And so what they're going to do now is go for broke and go scorched earth on us and to try and continue to raise the cost to keep us, to get us, the stuff is back in the box, but it's too late. Yeah, I wanted to bring up Emma Tucker out of the world economic forum because, you know, what I do on this side, you know, bringing different people on to talk and encounter media, right, and what's happening there.

Emma Tucker was the Wall Street Journal or is the Wall Street Journal, chief editor, and she's quoted as saying we own the news, we were the gatekeepers, and we very much own the facts as well. And for me sitting on this side, and having Tom, I think I can go way back to when you first came on and we're talking about all the different factions

of the media and everything and how they were being influenced by different government agencies and on and on. All I could think was, she said the quiet part aloud, like right in front of the entire thing, getting filmed and then it blew up on Twitter and everything else. And I go, so are we going to see over the next year, five years,

maybe we're already in the middle of it because of this show and other shows, where media is really going to take a hard transition into transparency and like showing you how they get to their conclusions? Or is they going to double down scorched earth and that's not going to be it at all? I think they already lost that game, but a long time ago, you know, I remember, you know, they don't advertise these things. But I remember polls from 19, no, sorry, from 2013, 2014, or maybe it was 2016. I forget exactly.

But, you know, long before we had the pandemic and the Ukraine war and the Middle Eastern War and all of these things. And something like 70% of Americans either didn't believe the media or they suspected that they were being lied to already back then. And now in the last three years, it's become, not last four years, it's become so obvious that it's very difficult to deny it. You know, it's, I imagine it must be difficult to find people who believe everything they're told on TV. They probably exist, but it's probably a minority by now. And so, you know, I think that what this woman said simply gives away the arrogant mindset that these people, have and the divorce from reality that they don't realize that they've made themselves irrelevant by lying to people, that there's a reason why, you know, CNN cannot crack one million

viewers on their most popular show while people like Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan are getting tens of millions. There's a reason for that. People reject sources where they suspect that they're being lied to and they gravitated. to where they suspect, where they find meaningful information. And so that's why shows like yours, you know, people like Jimmy Dore and Judge Andrew Napolitano and Tucker and Rogan and people like that are having great success. And she thinks she owns the facts.

I think she's really making a statement about herself and her peer group, not about who owns the facts. I agree. Yeah. I think we, I think we, I think that's a very important point, Alex. I really do. I'm not going to argue like at all. Go ahead, Sean. Well, it's just, you know, we just had Tucker Carlson here, you know, he was on stage with, uh,

you know, I got to see him in Eminton at Rogers Place. You know, that's the big stadium where the Oilers play and you had roughly 7,500 people. I'm going to assume jam in there. And, uh, you know, it was a star. studded cast in my opinion. You had Daniel Smith talk excellent, you know, a typical politician. She probably could have talked for about four last minutes in my opinion. But regardless, you know, she's a politician. She gets a opportunity to speak in front of her crowd. She's going to use it. And then you had Tucker Carlson do his keynote speech, which was like just total electric,

came out to kid rock. It felt my wife was with me. She's like, it feels like a rock concert, you know, like the way people are, you know, and out comes Tucker, place those nuts. And then you you have it go nuts all over because sitting in this chair, I was quite positive Jordan Peterson was going to be there, didn't know for sure. But I had information that suggested that. And so then he came out and the place erupted again. So now you got Tucker and Jordan Peterson and then Conrad Black sitting in the middle of them.

And you're like, where else? Where else can you find three people who are going to speak honestly? And, you know, I've been hard on Conrad Black. He was on the show leading up to it. And he talked about going to the weft for 20 years. and Henry Kissinger being a lovely human being and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, close Schwab not being that bad of a guy. And then he said on stage, Christia Freeland's a nice lady and that got a boo from the crowd.

Like, could have just felt like the place was going to revolt, right? But Tucker, Tucker called her, I think a Nazi midget, I think is what he said. And the place just erupted, right? And you just go like, people are ready for, for the truth. They are, they are more ready than they've ever been. Like, let's stop dancing around all these things. And so Tucker comes up. You have this all-star cast.

of these people who just get on stage and just like, listen, this is what it is. And the place was just like vibrating the entire time. It was, it was unreal. And then you flip back to Twitter and you see all these people in the Wef talking about all these things. You're like, this is hilarious. Like, I'm just laughing at it now because it's become so, you know, you mentioned the 16% Tom.

It's become so mainstream now, the Wef, if that it is such a thing. So common knowledge amongst people that the Wef is almost a laughing stock. That's what it feels like. It doesn't mean they don't still have power. It doesn't mean they won't go for scorched earth. It just means people are aware of it and are starting to poke fun at all of these people. Yeah, that's the way you. That's the most dangerous thing for them because if you counter them with arguments, you know, you say like, oh no, the climate change is not real because this and that.

And then they throw 97% of scientists at you and this and that. And you're having a, you're having like an argument back and forth. they're still strong. Once you start laughing at them, they're done. And this is what's happened to them. Absolutely. We've been saying for a long time that the best thing to do with crazy people is to agree and amplify. When they call you a racist, agree with them. Yeah, I'm a racist. We, you know, we do, you know, we do hangings out in the backyard every Thursday. You're more than welcome to come along. You know, it's like, we have barbecue and everything. It's great. You know, you do the, like, because at that point, you just like, look at them and go, come on. Let's, let's be realistic here. And that's the, the, agreeing amplifies a very, very powerful technique. Why did they ban the Babylon B, right? Because they understood that satire is the one thing that they can't stand up to.

Laughter, satire, meaming, all of this stuff. You can't stand up to satire because comedy is truth plus pain, right? And if there's nothing, nothing is more painful than listening to the, you know, than the mother wepers like trying to, you know, and they're fluppery blowing smoke. our asses and, you know, then we have to live with the consequences of their policy that they put in place because they've, you know, they've created tyranny by midwit versus Levin. It's funny. It's funny here in Canada top, Alex. So Tucker Carlson comes to town, right? And the next day the liberals are all losing their mind because they want Pierre Poliav, right,

the official opposition to denounce, denounce. Everybody's losing their mind because Daniel Smith was there. And it's like, this is so funny to see. see them all losing their minds over one man coming to do a show and talk about the war on free speech, the war on Christianity, the war on a whole bunch of different things, and the fact that some of our leaders are insane, and to talk about made, medically assisted, medical assistance in dying, and giving fentanyl to, well, soon to be kids, or maybe it already is, folks, I don't know. And if you hear that anywhere else in the world, you go, What? Here in Canada, we're like, oh, you know, it's not that bad.

It's not that bad. And to have Tucker Carlson come in and then see the liberals calling on Pierre to call them out and denounce it. It's just a bunch of and you're like, this is great. They're squirming. A bunch of Nazis. Like, what are you kidding me? Like, are you out of your mind? And again, the hysteria that they respond with is itself a meme.

Is itself a thing with which to laugh at them about because it's clearly. This I they're trying to create um they're trying to create a false sense of of of of of of supremacy of their ideas right oh only you know only only only only good people think like this and if you don't think like this and you're a bad person obviously it's this is the this is all this night it's all new speak it's all you know double plus ungood and all the and all the rest of it and but the problem is that we don't love big brother we're now laughing at big brother and yet big brother is going to continue to try and put us in room 101. And the problem is, is that, well, half of us are going, you know, compared to what you've got for us right now, room 101 doesn't look too fucking bad. Like, you know, do your worst. Like, like, you know, you don't have time to figure out what my room 101 is because you're trying to enslave eight billion people.

Well, in their case, they're trying to kill seven billion of them off because they know they don't, they don't, that the AIs can only really, you know, figure out the room 101 for about a billion people and a billion people that are like them and they get rid of a rode of all these useless eaters and that's what that's the way they think and we're just kind of look at them and go yeah no i i didn't you know i i didn't grow up to to be an adult and have children to live to give the hand them off this yeah no we're not going to do that yeah no we're just not going to do that can you can um you know like fight me bro we're not doing it's And then they play law fair and they do all these other stupid shit and things.

And we're just, we're getting to the point where like, you know what? How about we get, do law fair on you? We're just put you in jail. But what? We didn't do anything wrong.

We haven't broken air on us. I don't care. Guess what? The fact you referenced room 101, Tom, I'm like, oh, man, that's going to make me chuckle for, anyway,

that's going to make me chuckle for, can you, can we talk about Texas? We were talking about it this morning. That's where I was leading to. We're staring at Texas. up here in the north and I'm going, what is happening? Like, you know, Civil War was the topic, what came into the topic this morning.

Are we that close? What is happening in the United States of America on this southern border? It's a constitutional crisis, certainly. It's a, I read an article yesterday about this. I was like trying to tie everything together. I was going to try and tie Daniel Smith and Canada and AFD and all this stuff together. and I finally just truncated it. I've got half a post on the cutting room four, which I'll put out later in a week.

And but what we have is, you know, is are we talking about soft secession? Are we talking about insurrection? Are we just talking about the return to federalism? That's the question. And, you know, we start by asking those questions because what we should be doing first is legally exercising our rights within the legal framework that exists. In the United States, you know, the states are sovereign. And, you know, the National Guard doesn't work for the U.S. military until the executive calls them up. So the National Guard is under the control of the governor.

But then again, here's the fun part. Every state has their own state guard. This is something I just like had to be reminded of the other day. So the Texas State Guard will never, ever, ever, under any circumstance can be called up by the executive in Washington and made a member of the military. So if they decide to go the route of trying to pull the Texas National Guard off and make them make a choice as to who they work for, right? Because here's the process. You know, they're in a national guard, but they can be called up to become, to, by the executive to be, you know, effectively pushed into the military and put under executive control, the president's control. And this is what the Democrats are screaming for.

I got news for you. You might not want to do that because they may all just renounce their membership in the Texas National Guard and join the Texas State Guard, at which point they work for Greg Abbott and nobody the fuck else. There's a lot going on here. And it's, you know, we have a constitution. It's very clear what it says. And then the question now is whether or not the Supreme Court is going to enforce the Constitution or whether or not it's going to do what it always does, which is we're all. over for the centralization of power in Washington. But this has been an interesting court that's been up and down as to whether or not it believes in federalism or not.

And, you know, I can make an argument for a variety of reasons, for a variety of people, again, kind of like what happened on October 7, where everybody thought, hey, this was a good idea to push the border crisis to this constitutional crisis point because we're going to win this way and we're going to win that way. And every faction thinks that they can use this to their advantage. And the reality is, is that the states are deciding. The people are deciding. 25 governors have, you know, pledged, you know, support to Texas. And 17 of them are sending troops as of this morning. Okay. 17 states.

That's a big deal. And is this going to wind up being in a quote unquote civil war? No. It's not. Because, you know, at the end of the day, you have to, in order to continue to be an executive and have any legitimacy whatsoever, you know, you have to, if you give it, as commander chief, Biden gives an order, people don't show up. That's the end of his rule.

Now, we can argue, we can start arguing about who thinks they're going to win. the board the game board and that you know what happens after this is a this is a crisis point and then at that point we start to see the board unravel really quickly right and i don't know who's going to win that i can game out you know us winning i can game out them winning i can game out you know the enemies of the united states winning i can game out all sorts of scenarios so and i don't have a dominant one at this point but in the short run this is the right thing and the only move that Greg Abbott can make. You have to stop the invasion. This is an invasion. It's that simple. Now, whether or not that's going to, you know, accelerate things to a point where the United States

faces a constitutional crisis that it cannot overcome. Oh, that's a good question. We overcame the Civil War. You know, the events that led up to, well, I'm sorry, the war between the states or the war to prevent Southern secession or, you know, whatever you want to call it, the Second American Revolution. Um, depends on, you know, I live in the South. They call it a lot of things. And not all of them should I even repeat with my, my potty mouth, um, on camera. So it's a good question.

Alex, you, you sit, you know, on a, on a different continent staring at this. You know, like when, when you're looking and hearing, I, I'm curious what you hear and see. Because here in Canada, we hear, you know, if you, you're paying attention, you hear and see a lot of different things. What, what are your thoughts when you, when you listen to Tom laid out like that? Well, a few things. Tom is right in the sense of the way the structure of things is laid out. But the fact that this is meaningless is a different problem. First of all, because the American Constitution has been suspended with all these pandemics.

Okay? So, yeah, you have the Supreme Court there, but you may as well not have it. Also, the Supreme Court, we all imagine that this is like an institution. as they taught us in school. And I went to school in the United States. You have like this division of powers, executive, legislative, and judiciary, and they're all independent and they're all like they're sworn to uphold the law. Well, you know, first of all, most of them do not have a valid oaths of office.

Virtually nobody does. Second of all, the public health emergency suspends the constitution. That's the law. And then the judiciary comes under Department of Defense, which is now in effect. And then you also have these extensive discussions out in the open that Supreme Court judges should be offered money. Okay, like $10 million. You retire in 10 years, you get $10 million. I'm not making this up. This is Jonathan Turley has written about this on his blog.

You know, he's one of the leading constitutional scholars in the United States. And then also, you know, we have, you have a couple of years ago, you had a whistleblower from the NSA, Russell Tice, T-I-C-E, who had on his desks wiretaps of Supreme Court judges of Colin Powell of a military general, attorney generals, judges, and so forth. These wiretaps were not done out of because people in the NSA didn't know what to do with themselves out of boredom. They collected this data deliberately to have control files on these people. And then these people, you know, like you come down to the choice of lead or silver. You know, you want silver or you want lead. And if a judge, you know, decides that they have their principles,

that they are sworn to uphold the constitution and uphold the law. Then maybe they come to a no good end like the judge Esther Salas did a few years ago when she was assigned the money laundering case against Deutsche Bank. And this case was linked to Jeffrey Epstein. And then somebody, somebody, who knows who, who, probably Vladimir Putin or maybe Xi Jinping dispatched an assassin to her. her home and killed her son and injured her husband. She survived because she was, you know, just happened to be running an errand at the time when the assassin turned up. And so, you know,

you have a very serious problem that the institutions that should preserve the democratic quarter are not functioning anymore. And that, you know, dramatically exacerbates the risk that the country ends up in a civil war. So, I mean, those tensions are now already brewing up, and I would also wager that the party that has most to gain by the United States going into a civil war is the city of London. This is who orchestrated the first U.S. Civil War in 1861. That's where it's coming from.

It didn't happen because, you know, Abraham Lincoln wanted to free the slaves and the Southerners wanted to keep their slaves. That's not how it happened. That's the, you know, airbrushed and sanitized version that is being taught in U.S. schools. But if you study history a bit more rigorously, you realize that the U.S. Civil War was a massive geopolitical event where the British Empire wanted to rid itself of a great rival for the control of maritime trade routes, which was the United States, which was growing more and more powerful. And the British Empire said, like, oh, shit, you know, these people are going to unseat us. Let's break them off into several smaller client states that are going to be weak that we can pit them, one against the other.

And we're going to be financing both. They're going to be a commodity exporter to us, and we're going to financialize the collateral that they represent in our banks. And we're going to control the currency and the trade. trade flows. So that's, you know, London is at risk of losing the United States. If Donald Trump comes into power, London is cooked and the Davos, you know, we can put them all in the same bag. So if they can't keep the American people from voting wrong, they're going to try to break up the United States. That's what they're going to try to do. And I think that all this talk about

Texas seceding, somebody is lobbying this through. Somebody's, you know, pushing that. And I think that that would be the greatest gift to this degenerate oligarchy in the city of London and in Europe. Yeah, Tom, you always talk about the... No, I know, I don't know. You're absolutely correct.

You're absolutely correct. Nothing I said in my previous comments. repudiate any of that analysis or what I've said previously on this issue. I agree with that completely. As I said, is this the right situation, the right thing in the short run? Yes, because the states have to stand up. They have to reassert their authority. Federalism has to be, we have to put that idea back in the heads of Americans who have

been comfortable with their institutions operating the way they think they're supposed to be operating. And they're getting a very, and over the course of the last six or seven years, we part of the discussion about Davos and being a morgue and all the rest of it is part of the process of people waking up to the reality that the institutions, and this is where we're going to move next, are not to be trusted. That what we thought were the institutions of culture and power and everything else that were our greatest strength, that our natural political immune system from this shit still functions. that's itself a sciop, right? That is the British sci up. Correct. That the shit still functions.

It doesn't. We know that. You know, Biden this morning came out and put out an executive order. Again, another ridiculously inflammatory comment, executive order banning all new LNG terminals in the export of liquidified natural gas from the United States. Why? Because they're actually trying to destroy the natural gas markets here in the United States by crashing the frigging price of domestically of natural gas creating a massive oversupply.

Okay. I've been sitting here for the last three or four weeks and one of the coldest snaps we've ever had and there's, you know, natural, you know, U.S. natural gas futures getting crushed from three, fifth, from a breakout above 350, a million BTUs to 210. Like it's a massive collapse in seven trading days of U.S. natural gas prices in anticipation of the Biden administration doing exactly this. Okay. Well, you know, our production is off the charts.

So they're doing this on purpose. Like they're trying to sabotage everything that would allow the United States to weather this political storm. Because if we have, if the economy functions relatively well, if the Fed holds interest rates at five and a half percent, if the banking system is, you know, allowed to have the liquidity it needs to get through. And yeah, we're going to have some banks fail and blah, blah, blah. There's a whole bunch of bad shit happens, right? But the ultimate goal here is to destroy the American bond market and the American debt markets. Secession is ultimately about killing the American treasury market as a, as the world's most trusted sovereign debt markets. That's the important part here.

That's what the Brits are are attacking. And on this, the Brits and Davos, right, I tend to split off into two separate groups. On this point, they agree. Like, their bend diagram, destroying the United States. is number one at their list, top of their list. And then after the United States is destroyed, they're fighting amongst them. So they're jockeying for position as who's going to control the world after they're done

destroying us. That's the game. It's a three player game. And, you know, you know, A and B are trying to destroy C. After C's gone, then A and B are going to fight. Okay.

So no argument here that this is a, that, that this is what's going on. This is why I'm like, I don't want to discuss secession. I don't want to discuss the, People's Republic of, you know, or discussed the restitution of Texas or anything else. You know what I want to do? I want to watch them like

literally fulminate and lose their mind and start spitting in great frustration that we didn't take the bait. That we closed the fucking border that the state's banned together and then we turn around and go, you know what? No, Joe Biden is just a traitor.

That's it. We just need to get rid of him. We have a process for this. He's a traitor and he needs to be removed. And so now we have to have to watch the The next set of moves to watch here Isn't what the governor's already acted So now we got to watch what happens on Capitol Hill And does the damn break? Is there a faction

Slap and middle of the folders on various desks To get this to walk through this process this way To get Trump all the way to the election and then to the inauguration without being assassinated. That's why Jamie Diamond coming out and saying, no, get used to the idea of Donald Trump is so goddamn important. Because Diamond's literally telling you what's going on. The other day, he just reorganized J.P. Morgan.

By the way, all the various divisions, I didn't have a chance to talk with a friend of mine about this, who knows more about the internal workings at JP Morgan than I do. But notice, if you go through that announcement, Mary Erdos, who's absolutely fucking weft to the guild and was the one, and it was through her division that Epstein was given bank accounts to wander money through J.P. Morgan in order to be able to then point that bazook at Jamie Diamond last year, Mary Erdos didn't get up, didn't get an, um, uh, she's not in the, the newly restructured, um, uh, uh, uh, uh,

administration of the post-Diamond J.P. Morgan. That's a big deal. Okay? And Diamond had Erdos right next to him while he was at Davos, meaning she wasn't allowed to do anything. She wasn't, I don't think she, I think Diamond literally kept her on his arm in order to keep her from, like, trying to betraying him, basically keep your enemies close, you know, your friend's close and your enemies closer.

that's the way I read all that, by the way. I've been watching this, again, I'm watching this shit very, very carefully because as far as I'm concerned, this is the center of where the, you know, again, fix the money. You fix the, you fix the politics. You can't. And, you know, what is the future of what is the cloud, the Schwabian future? What is the Bank of England future? It's CBDCs.

It's UBI. It's. defaulting on the debt that exists today. But they got to get us, but they have to repudiate our debt first. They got to make the world hate U.S. treasuries in order to then say, well, we have a plan for getting out the other side of this, which is that, you know, we're going to, we're going to cancel all the debt. We're going to forgive all your debts, but you have to, you know, let the app be sideloded

onto your phone. This is part of FYI, just so you know, this is why the EU is forcing Apple. to side load to allow apps to be sideloded onto the iPhone. That's why they've been going after Apple so freaking hard because they want to be able to side load their apps onto the iPhone against Apple's wishes because they need to do this. They need to be able to track and trace everything. They need to be able to issue their apps.

They're getting ready for this. And the iPhone, you know, Apple for all of its faults as a company, has been very clear that they don't want to do that. Part of the reason why Apple's walled garden has been a strength for people is because they refuse to allow anybody into their app store. Now there's going to be a separate app store. This is a big fucking deal, people. This is them refusing to back down and force, you know, and keep pushing around this.

They're pushing on this front. So now they're trying to get Texas, just like they've been, you know, blowing. up the North Stream pipeline to get Putin to New Kiev. They're trying to get this, the states to say, we have irreconcilable differences with Washington and then ask yourself the question, well, who guarantees the $33 trillion with the U.S. debt? And Janet Ellen's out there issuing last year, she issued, what, 83% of the debt she issued last year was of one year maturity or less at the highest interest rate she possibly could so that would all roll over this year in order to force the Fed to fucking pivot. She did.

did it on purpose. She's a fucking traitor. She's a fucking vandal. Okay. It's who she is. And so is Biden and so are the rest of them. This is right here in front of you. So if Greg Abbott, if you're listening, no secession talk, no Texas, Texas talk. None of this shit. Exercise your rights under the Constitution exactly the way he did in the letter to the Biden administration. Ken Paxon the AG of Texas went along with it. and all the other AGs that have supported Texas, supported this, 25 states and 25 AGs. Regardless the party affiliation. Now, most of those states are, of course, the GOP run states. So in the initial thing to see Virginia, of all things, right, be one of the first to back Texas. That's because of Glenn Youngkin as governor, even though, you know, Virginia politics is now dominated by government employees around the city of Richmond. you know, basically. So, I mean, if you start to really think about this stuff,

I mean, I was having a conversation with my partner, Dexter White over the weekend about this very thing. And he said, imagine if the South didn't take the bait at Fort Sumter. You want to talk about a different history of the United States? What if the South allows Lincoln to resupply Fort Sumter? Right. Confederacy never did anything with Fort Zachary Taylor in, in Key West, Union folks were, I mean, they did, they just sat out the war.

What at Fort Sumter was, if they didn't do anything about Fort Sumter for six or eight months, and the Confederacy was given another six, eight, nine, ten months to solidify itself. History of the United States would be completely different. Okay. History of the world would be different. It may not be better, may not be worse, right? So, like, this is what, in the reverse now, this is what Texas is, what Texas is. needs to do. Don't take debate. Secure the border. Act within your federal legal rights as a

sovereign state. Because people forget this. The United States is made up of 50 little countries, by the way. And the supremacy clause of the Constitution is problematic in the way it's been interpreted. At the end of the day, the states, unlike the federal government, have plenary policing power. Okay. They have the right to police their territory. Okay. Federal government can't put you in charge, put you in jail for murder.

By the way, you ever notices? No, that's a state thing. Okay, here in the U.S. Murder is a state charge. Federal government can assist the states in the investigation, but ultimately this is murder is prosecuted

in state court, not in federal court. Okay. Foreigners don't, you know, I mean, no offense, Alex, but and Sean, but people outside of the United States do not understand the depth to which we have federalism here in the U.S., which is why we need to be destroyed. Because the mechanisms are there legally in place to do what needs to be done. And then you wait for the people to stand up and do the right thing at the federal level. Here's what I'm worried about. And I wrote about this yesterday.

And I think this was me. And I literally, I put this idea in my head and I'm like, oh, this is schizo posting. right is the following what if this is all a big ploy to deny texas the ability to seat electors at the electoral college in order to deny trump a victory next january because texas has now raised arms against the federal government right that's what they're that's what they're doing they're trying to deny, they're going to try and deny the states. The more I think about this, the more I think that that's what the strategy is. They know they can't stop Trump because they learned here in the last week that, okay,

Trump's going to be the candidate. And they've been trying as hard as they can to stop him. So when you put it that way, you're like, what legal way can we do it without raising too many red flags that we're going to do everything in our power? Because I mean, every red flag's been raised at this point. But if all of a sudden, Texas couldn't do what they do in an election, which would help President Trump, there might be a way the Democrats squeak through. That doesn't raise too many red flags to the common population. Look, Sean, go through reconstruction. Okay.

go through what we we like before the states the southern states had had to had seceded um officially rejoined the united states they were subject to u.s. law and the 14th and they were we were imposing the 14th amendment and the post civil war amendments on the southern states that hadn't even come back into the union yet all right like if you don't think that this hasn't been done, remember Lincoln was barred from, you know, he was thrown off the ballot in the number of states.

He won the election without having the ballot access for all the states. This is, this is a, it's been done before. Martin Armstrong brought up the other day that the first three or four elections in the United States, Washington, Jefferson, they were not elected by popular vote.

There's nothing in the Constitution which says we have to have a popular vote for president. It's only the electoral college. How the states decide to choose who the slate of electors is is up to the states. And the states can choose, hey, we're not having an election. We're just going to convene the state legislature and let them work it out and send a candidate for president and separately for vice president. And in the early days of the United States, the vice president was the guy who got the second most electoral college votes. oh, by the way.

You know, we all, we live in this idea of what, of how the U.S. election system works. It's all very modern. It's all very post-World War II or, you know, post-FDR. It's not the way, you know, that's not the historical precedent here. So there's plenty of historical precedent and legal precedent on the books for a whole bunch of weird shit to happen. And so this is part of the reason.

why I'm having a hard time arguing with Marty about the idea that no matter who wins in 2024, half the country is not going to accept it, which again, falls right back into what Davos and the city of London want. That's what scares me more than anything else. I've been banging my shoe on the table like cruise chef about this for two years now. And every interview that Alex and I do together in every venue, we always wind back up on this. this scenario and people thought i was crazy for making this argument then but here we are in twenty twenty four and we're we're in the middle of it now although i i doubt whether it's half the country you know because i think that more than half the country would vote for donald trump

at this point and i think that joe biden his i'm convinced that his approval ratings are completely cooked i mean there's no way that he that 38 percent of people actually support joe biden He's been like a walking train wreck. And I think that, you know, normally experience from other countries suggest that at this stage you would have approval ratings at the single digits. You know, the reason why they show them to be, like, relatively high is because then they could lie with exit polls. You know, in the last moment, Joe Biden can, you know, like, sign some.

some popular executive orders, forgive student loan debts, whatever, do something that can be interpreted in positive way through the news. And then they say, like, oh, look, his poll ratings just jumped. He's one point ahead of Donald Trump. You can't recover from 6% approval rating. So they just lie. They just probably poll the Democratic National Congress. And that's how they get 38%.

You know, they're not getting 38% on the street. at this point, I know, maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong. Because I just like, what I see in the United States is kind of what I see in Canada, right? Like I look at Biden and I look at Trump and I'm like, to me, sitting up here, Tom, I go, Trump should win in the landslide. The first time around, you can, you can, the Democrats can kind of be like, well, you know, we needed to change Trump, the way he's doing things, talking, whether that match what actually was going on, the way media, the way pop,

Everything has changed in four years. So much has changed in four years is not even funny. And I look at Trudeau here in Canada. And I go, you know, the next election, if Pierre doesn't win in a landslide, I think there's more and more people who go, it's corrupt. It's cooked. It's just simple as that. We got a bigger problem on our hands than everyone voted for Trudeau.

I don't think that's the case anymore at all. You just watch all that, you know, you watch, go back to what Alex said about CNN and they can't crack a million. I mean, the CBC here, I don't even know if they can crack like three, percent of the population on their favorite show, right? Like, I mean, they just, they can't get anybody watching anything. And, um, other than hockey night in Canada. And even then there's, you know, there's a lot of people, a lot of people that are very upset. And that isn't CBC now.

That's sports net. That's true. That's true. And then, you know, greatest player on the planet. He's using the pride tape. And I mean, people just went off the deep end again, right? All that. Because long story, I'm going down the hockey.

you tie right here we look at it and i look at the americans i look at canada and i go like the next election we go on here in 24 then we got probably one in 25 i mean that's how it should probably play out in my head and i go right now i have tons of people who don't do not listen to us three talk that go if trudeau gets elected we have big problems and if they're saying that how much of the country is saying that so you go the only thing they can do that doesn't raise like the entire populations like what just happened? Why did Biden get elected? Why did Trudeau get elected? Nobody's happy right now. It's if they pivot and put in somebody in place. And the one that we were talking about this morning was Michelle Obama. And Tucker, we were joking on stage. His one slip, if he had a

slip, was he said, yeah, you know, talking about Trump, this, that. And then he goes, you know, it really comes down to a two-person race, Biden and Obama. And he said it. And I don't know if he meant to say it or if he just, it slipped out. But you look at that and you go, Isn't that the way the Democrats maybe pull back some of the, I don't even know what at this point, but isn't that way where they can maybe try and be like, oh, Obama is this great, you know, first lady. She's so, and first this and first that. Isn't that maybe a way they try and slide past the goalposts without raising too many alarm bells? Maybe.

She's all class and grace. Yeah, that could fly. It'll be okay the here's the the the the some things that consider um Michelle Obama will pull every black woman in the country okay same way the Kamala Harris would okay black women love Kamala Harris you might want to talk to Larry Elder about this about the about the about the the stuff because he did a great podcast I watched about a month month a month and a half ago about the, you know, Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris situation.

But where they have a bigger problem is black men. Black men are gone. They've lost them. And, you know, you can get them to say on a poll while their wives are standing next to them. Yeah, I'm going to vote for Biden. And then they're going to go in, they're going to blacken in the bubble for Trump. and then they're going to leave the booth, and then they're going to tell their wives that they vote to provide.

Okay. So they're going to cancel each other out in a way that, you know, we've never, it probably already happened in 2020, and that's what they had to overcome. And that's just, you know, I mean, and they're not even going to try here in Florida anymore to push this idea, okay, because they know it's not going to work because it's just a true far gone. I mean, you know, we have Jewish folk in the,

in Florida who are ready to vote for Donald Trump. I mean, it's kind of crazy. That's how bad things are. Okay. So they have bigger problems than that. They have, so it's not going to be a real election. It's going to be an election with its thumb on the pulse of the whole thing. And they're going to put their thumb on the scale.

And they're going to push. And they're going to manipulate the, um, the milieu to their advantage. the state of the game board and do not put it past them that they try and say it's a civil war we can't have an election now we had two elections during the first civil war so like i don't know what they're talking about we've got plenty of historical precedent you know we had an election in 1860. We had an inauguration, you know, while half the country had, you know, when we had states that were leaving the union and then we had another election in 1864. Like, we did it then. We can do it again. We can do it here. There's,

there's no reason why we can't, but this clearly this is an operation being run by external forces because they understand that if we, if the United States as a reasonably functional, 50 state, compact makes it through to January 2025 and Donald Trump is president and there's a vice president in place who's just as bad as he is from their perspective which is why they're trying to create the whole Nikki they're trying to recreate 1980 with thinking haly right George bush George hw bush stayed in the race against Reagan way longer than he had any right to be in that race and then they took Reagan aside and they said he's going to be your vice president in it. And if not, we're going to shoot you or your family.

And, you know, George H.W. Bush was the globalist fallback plan, insurance policy. So that's who Nikki Haley is. And that's why she's like, oh, yeah, no, this race is not over. Like, yeah, it is. You're going to get smoked by 40 points in your home state. Like, she's not even going to show up in Nevada. This is about either them getting Trump into disqualified from the ballot or in jail. so that the GOP then nominates Nikki Haley. That's what this is about. That's why she's still in the race.

Her only chance at winning is for Trump to be removed. And she's been told that that's what they're going to do. And so she's just dumb enough to believe that that's what's going to happen. And, you know, she's making her bed and she's going to lie in it. Well, you know, there's her other choices to go back and, you know, slinging coffee at the Waffle House.

So outside of Charleston, like, that's what's going on. Like, I'm sorry, if I can't meme Nikki Haley Waffle House, waitress into being I have failed as a political commentary commentator. So I'm just going to keep doing it until it works. It's all it happens. So. But that's, you know, there's, like I said, like I said, when we first started talking about this, there's a number of different ways this is going to lay out.

So many different ways that this could go, this could branch. And there is no prediction here. And anybody who's selling a prediction of what's going to happen other than chaos, it's just talking their book. You know, it's just stroking their own ego. I, I just, at this point, just want to lay out as many various scenarios as possible and as many, you know, confounding factors as possible. And to see how they all cancel each other out, if they cancel each other out. At the end of the day, the bigger question is you will know as we go through this.

There's like, I was on with, on somebody else's show. I said, look, there's like five things that have to happen here between now and the, and the inauguration for Trump to win and take office. And you got, it's like flipping a coin, like flipping a penny five times and coming up heads every time and you get one shot at it. You don't get to, you know, try again. You have heads, that's got to come up heads and then heads and then heads and then heads. And at each stage of the process, you know, first we got to get rid of the Sanchez and

Vivek, we did that. Now we got to get rid of Nikki Haley. right you got her to back down then something else has to occur and then we got to get through this Texas thing now now we're going to get keep Trump out of jail then you got to get to the convention with the right VP then you've got to you know navigate whatever um whatever shifts the democrats are going to do with whoever they decide to put up be Gavin news from Michelle Obama or I don't know whoopey Goldberg. Like, you know, I don't know who they're going to put, to try and put in, in place, right?

And then they got to get through the election. And then we got to get through the transition. Then we got to get through the inauguration. And we got to stay out of war with Iran, right? We got a, um, the Democrats are clearly going to pivot anti-war. The Biden administration is not talking about leaving both Syria and Iraq at the same time. Did I not call this six months ago? saying that the Biden administration would not put would not all of a sudden go anti imperialist

we're going to pull out of the Middle East going to leave the Israelis to hang this is this is what Davos wants the Brits don't so that's why the Davos and the Brits are not the same okay they want Trump destroyed they want the United States destroyed but they have different agendas in the Middle East collateral and all goes back to oil and collateral and everything so guys I can sit here and do this all day long and sound only mostly coherent. And it all still is just a fucking nightmare. Well, when I, when I hear you talk, I don't know, give space for Alex to say a few things,

but when I hear you talk, you just are pointing out how dire of a situation we're in. And, you know, as we get closer and closer to the election, it'll only get worse and worse and worse. But you have passed one coin flip in your words, Tom, with Vivek stepping aside and doing doing it first, he strikes me as one very intelligent man because he understood he wasn't the guy. And so he, he steps aside. He's the first one to do it, which makes him look even better than DeSantis. Desanthus, by the time he stepped aside looks like a weak, you know, resemblance of the man that we saw in COVID and everything else. But they both step aside. That's a big one. And I will say I want you to understand that DeSantis stepping aside when he did before New Hampshire was a big deal.

and tells me that the, um, I know the hardcore Trumpers, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, , the, the, the, end's over conservative tree house, who really do believe that DeSantis is the traitor. No, he's not. Um, what I see is, DeSanta stepping aside when he did, leaving all that money in his war chest for 2028.

And look, if Haley had won New Hampshire, she was only going to win New Hampshire that DeSantis stayed in and pulled 10 or 12% of the vote right and then that would have been when you look at the way who DeSantis was taking he was taking people who were

tired of Trump like the ideas of Trump but wanted somebody different so DeSanta stepping aside was more important than the VEC. Far more important because he was a more credible candidate one okay came in second in Iowa 21% of the vote

and same demographics as Donald Trump. Okay. So you back that off and you say, okay, DeSantis pulling out before New Hampshire was a way to say, yes, we need to stop Nikki Haley. Yes, I'm on your side.

Yeah, this is all over. He endorsed Trump and fully repudiated Haley as a globalist. That was important. Watch the speech he gave. because Trump did. And so, you know, Donald Trump, when he's running for office, is not the same person as Donald Trump. One, you know, he's not your opponent. It's all performance art with him.

So, you know, this whole, you know, animosity between Trump and Desanthas is just amplified to IEDA because that's what Trump does to win. That's the way he operates. I'm not saying it's good, bad, or indifferent. It's just who he is. So DeSantis is going to go back to four. Florida where he belongs. He's now supporting first one to basically support Greg Abbott and send troops. He's doing the right thing. So now the question is, is the whole

Greg Abbott thing, nothing about a big British Scop in order to force civil war? That's a, then you have to like bracket for that. I think that's a low or low probability scenario. You know, unless you want to chime in, Alex, the other thing, you know, I think a lot of people have been, have been staring at is, and, and of course, on this side of the pond, we get very little information about it, was what was going on in

Germany, like this giant protest that reminded us all over here of the truckers. That's what it looked like. And yet, you know, it's so far away, you're like, well, is it, is that exactly what's going on? Is it, you know, like on your side of the pond, what, what is happening over there? Yeah, I think it's a, the German farmer protest is real. And it's, uh, it has very, very, very broad public support. I think that more than 80% of the public support the farmers. Where it goes is very difficult to say. I think that the government is kind of finding itself powerless to do anything about it. The thing that is even more ominous about it is that the protest seems to be metastasizing to other nations. And I think,

think that the scariest protesters in the world are the French. Because once they, you know, like once they go and protest, they, they do it properly. They go hard. And they're, they've practically laid a siege to Paris. They've locked all the highways between Paris and the rest of France. And, you know, the stores and warehouses in Paris, have about three days worth of food. So I don't know where this goes, but it's, you know, I predicted this two years ago, and it's not a particularly original prediction.

It was, you could tell that we were going to a future of social uprisings. It didn't happen during the COVID pandemic. It didn't happen the next year. year or the year after that, but here we are. This year, apparently it's happening. The problems of European governments are dismayingly deep and complex. And when you look at what's going on, you wonder, how come this place hasn't collapsed already a long time ago? Because the laws have been changing in most insane ways.

I, you know, like when I see, when I hear stories from people in Germany, I cannot even believe that this is like a civilized, advanced Western country. People are quiet quitting in their millions. People are quitting outright in hundreds of thousands. People are realizing that they're better off on the government dole than working full time. And then, you know, they quit. They get social benefits. And then they work in the black. And they end up way better off than just, you know, being a law-abiding citizen. And surprisingly, there's a lot of ways to skirt the system. So we're going in the direction

of Brazil, you know, Argentina. We're going in the direction of societal collapse. I, I, I don't know how they reverse this. I mean, I don't think it's too far out to think that this could be the next, you know, another event like the French Revolution in the 18th century. And so it's here. Italian farmers are out. Polish farmers are out. Bulgarian farmers are out. Romanian farmers are out. Croatian farmers are out. Dutch, German, German. you know, it's a continent-wide problem. And in the middle of losing a war to Russia, okay? So, all right, I don't know where this goes,

but I'm going to describe the real danger that I feel is upon us. And that is the, you know, Tom and I discussed this the other day. It's the process of Nazification because Nazis don't just spontaneously emerge out of an economic crisis. Nazis are created. You get Nazis when you fund Nazis. And the process, you know, I read up on the way this happened in Germany. Not in your school curriculum history books. It doesn't show it.

but in, you know, in Carol Quigley and conjuring Hitler and, you know, these types of sources. And then when you look at this process and compare it to what's been happening in Ukraine, there's practically a template, okay? There's practically a template. First, you destroy the economy. Okay. You make sure that people are destitute, that unemployment is very high, that young people have no future, that they have no way.

to fulfill their aspirations in life that they cannot afford to get married and raise families. And then once you've achieved that, then you start arming extremist radical right-wing groups. They're the ones who start getting money. They are the ones whose ideology becomes promoted in the media, pamphlets, television, radio, Tiki Torch, marches, and so forth. And this is exactly the way it happened in Germany with the Brown shirts. Because, you know, Germany during the, in the period after World War I for about 20 years, Germany was one rolling social and economic and political crisis with assassinations,

with suicides, with practically a quiet civil war going on between various groups in Germany, between the communists and the socialists and the conservatives. And then you had the Brown Shirt movement, which in 1930 had a couple of hundred members. But by 1933, when Hitler came to power, they were between two and three million. Okay, because somebody funded this. Somebody armed them.

Somebody provided the weaponry. And then from there, you have the process of, Yeah, and then you introduce the external enemy because the country is in chaos. Whose fault is it? Jews and the Russians. 1930s Germany. After 2014 in Ukraine,

the fault was the Russian Jewish mafia. Same thing. You start preparing the nation for war. In 2014 or 15, I forget, when they had the presidential elections in Ukraine, the two right-wing extremist parties, the Swoboda and the right sector, the Pravi sector, between them they got about 1.6% of the popular vote. Okay? Nevertheless, they got most of the key cabinet posts, you know, the police, the military education, judiciary, I think.

And they got five key governorships, in spite of the fact that they got less than 2% of the popular vote. And we know what happened between 2014 and 2020. And now these brown shirts, you know, because the country is in such chaos, they incentivize them with 300 bucks per head for anybody they can sweep off the street and throw into the trenches, into the meat grinder. And the country is completely destroyed. So this was Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. This is Ukraine today. Why am I saying this? Because I see the danger that we are going in the same direction because the same structures of power

that are in charge of the Western societies, these banking oligarchs, they lost practically everything they had going. They're losing their position in Africa in the Middle East. They're losing in Ukraine. They got kicked out of Afghanistan. their power in the world is declining very rapidly. So what do they do?

They emiserate the people in the West, the United States, Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. They start, you noticed, you noticed that now we have feds marching around with various, you know, nationalist, socialist kind of themes. You know, we saw the guys in the red shirt in Florida a few months ago, right? Saluting Nazi salute. Now we're seeing these, I don't know what they're called, National Patriot Front, whatever they're called. It doesn't matter what they're called. But they start marching around, making themselves visible.

They go with slogans that are acceptable to the wider public, right? They will say they're in. anti-Satanic or their pro-Christianity or their anti-communist or their anti-immigration, something that will attract people who have a grievance in this. And then you start throwing a little bit of money and you start creating this brown shirt movement as the rest of the society is being immiscerated. And so you create dry tinder of people who are going to be running repression, who are going to be intimidating politicians,

judges, sheriffs, and so forth, legal representative of the people. And you're also beginning to militarize the society because you still want to prevail over your geopolitical rivals, like Russia, like Iran, like China. So this is, I think, where the danger is because we're going to get an inflationary future. We're going to get stagflation. The immiseration of the people is going to continue.

And they're obviously fomenting these brown shrew. movements. Okay. And if we don't wise up to this, then we're on that same slippery slide into Nazism, which, you know, give it five, ten years might land us in the real World War scenario, like the real, real one. Because, you know, Germans, the Poles, the British establishment, they are already announcing there's going to be conscription.

We have to increase military spending. We're going to be in war against Russia. They're giving all these signals, right? So we are going, we are being pushed in those directions. And I think that we have to really find effective ways to push back against this because, you know, next thing is going to be my kids who these, you know, brown shirts are going to be sweeping off the street to chuck them on the eastern front as cannon fodder. And I don't think anybody wants this.

Because now people are saying, like, piss off. Nobody's going to war. Nobody's interesting in fighting against Russia. But the Ukrainians in 2014 were saying the same thing. They gave less than 2% of the vote to the Nazis. Now they lost half a million men. Now the Ministry of Defense in Ukraine ordered 50,000 uniforms for female soldiers. They're scooping up women to chuck them into the muddy trenches to die face down in the mud.

Okay? So this is real, and it's coming our way. So we have to not be complacent about this, because, you know, once it reaches a certain critical mass, all you can do is hide, emigrate, or be completely screwed. So now is the time to nip it in the bud, but we have to know what we're nipping in the bud, you know, and not fall for their slogan, oh, we're against the immigration.

Oh, good, you're one of us. We're against the Satanists. Oh, you know, we're friends. You're all masks and you have these uniforms. You look like Nazis, but you're saying the same things that we're thinking. No, that's a trap. That's the lure. You bite and then next thing, your head.

That's all I had to say about that. That's all. It was outstanding, Alex. Are you kidding? No, it's really, you're absolutely right, dude. It is a very important point. And the way I put it for a while where I think we're right around the corner like the second half of Dune is coming out. And we all, I've said for years, we don't want to be the Fremant.

We don't want to be so radicalized that we've become so angry at what they've done to us that we're willing to do, we're willing to, you know, commit atrocities in revenge, effectively for, you know, in the Ferman's case, it's tens of thousands of years of, of, uh, of, uh, of, oh, oppression, but, right, but in, and colonialism and stealing their wealth and yada, yada, and driving them literally to the point where they recycle their own P in order to live in the frigging desert, right? This is who these people are. You know, it's, we don't want to be that and we don't want to fall into the easy antipode of who these, of the people that are, you know, it's easy to create it, if not A, then B scenario, a false diet of, well, I'm not a Democrat, therefore, I must be this. I'm not a wokester.

I'm not a communist. Therefore, I get to be this. Okay? Why do you think communists hate fascists? Because, you know, they're two sides of the same coin. They're just for different ends.

Right? They both want power. They just achieve it different ways. Okay. So, yes. Sorry, Tom, forgive me for interrupting you.

I'm interrupting you because I entirely agree. Because if you, you know, the definition of communism is abolition of private property. And this is what Davos is all about. You know, the fascist of Davos, they want you to have nothing and be happy, which is, you know, a nice way to put it, abolition of private property. This is exactly communist.

Well, they want the abolition of private property, Alex. And so the antipode to that is to say, no, we're going to have, we're going to have a dictatorship. based on, you know, private property or the illusion of private property. What is fascism? It's really the same damn thing. It's the state control of the private assets, but there's still the idea that there are private assets. We still have this, we had this premature of private assets.

Remember, Mussolini's definition of fascism, everything within the state, nothing outside the state, right? But, you know, it all winds up being, you know, just these. And this is part of the problem of how do you deal with with a group of people? How do you defend against a group of people who are pushing you this way? Well, the natural antipode is to move towards a quote unquote state capitalist model. And this is the trap that, you know, the Russians have been pushed into and the Iranians have been pushed into. And in many ways the Chinese have been pushed into.

And they understand these processes very, very well. Because remember, this is all, these are all political theories that were created by the very people that are you know that were thought up by these people and they implemented over the last 150 years anyway like this is not 180 years anyway if Marx is now 180 years old right so like these this is we don't have to go down this route all we have to do is say no all we have to do is all we have to do is be solid and stay still we don't have to react to them this is it's what I mean as solid is it's it's one of those things where I was thinking about this one in in in in in in interpersonal you know at the interpersonal level you have you have a a wife who is

anxious about the future what's what and and and and what she wants from her from her husband is solidity and firmness that no everything is be fine I don't need you to react and fix my problems I need you to know. I need you to project the idea that I've got this. I'm on top of it. You don't have to worry about it. It's a fundamentally in this, it's the, the, the, the, and that's what I'm arguing for in this. Like, just say no and just be a node of solidity.

Victor Orban is your model. In many ways, in some ways, Putin is your model. I was going to say, isn't that what Russian, isn't that what Russia and Putin did? through the last year. No matter what happened, at the start, we're all freaking out that, like, they're going to react to Nord Stream. They're going to react to all these different things. And after they haven't reacted, like three or four, you're like, no, they're not reacting. They're actually just going to sit there and look at the other countries embarrass themselves.

And what you're asking out of Texas is exactly the same thing. What you're asking on something very close to where I am, Alberta, Premier Smith, right, is, although she's standing up to the federal government, you're asking for that same vote of confidence. And when it first happens, you're kind of like, holy crap, what is going on? Are we going, you know, you go back, folks, I don't know how many, seven conversations ago,

I was pretty, you know, like pretty wound up. Like World War III is coming. And you two argued about that. And now you watch, and I'll go back to Putin, love or hate him, he hasn't reacted to all the stuff they've thrown at him and all the false flags and everything else. It just hasn't worked. So they move on.

Right. And they're going to see if somebody else will react. That's what you're talking about. That's exactly what I'm talking about. And Victor Raban in Hungary is runs the same playbook inside the EU. Nope. We're not giving money to Ukraine. Nope.

No. I'm not going to, you know, not going to get histrionic about it. And not going to, not going to, you know, denounce you and scream at you. And, you know, it makes some big move here or there. I'm just going to say, no, we're not doing that. Change the rules of the European Union. And if you want me to move. These are the rules.

I'm acting within my rights. Within the rules, you need unanimous consent. If you want it, you've got to go get it from somebody else in the immortal words of Trey Parker and baseball. So, like, it's exactly right. Dude, it's like, it's like right there, right? And it's like, if you want unanimous consent from the owners, you'll have to go get it somewhere else.

Like, it's hilarious, right? It's a great joke. But it's, he's right. Like, in this case, and what do they do? He, he says no. And so what are they doing? They're now saying, okay, well, we have to end the unanimous vote. We have to be able to make policy without it being unanimous.

They've changed. Now they're changing the rules of the European Union. And now by doing that, everybody's sitting there going, really? But that's not what we signed up for. And that's, and it's, so it's all you have to do is be solid. All you have to do is act within your rights. Don't ab react. Don't sit there.

when the bully comes up to you and says, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you. You go, that's nice. You're an asshole. Don't even say that. That's nice. Are you done yet? Really? Are you done yet? Couldn't we move on? And then eventually, you know, he gets tired of it and then he tries something else and they try something else. And they attack your reputation. Right? Look at the way they operate. They don't operate like men. I hate to say this. They don't. And I, you know, we're not allowed to have these conversations about the differences between men and women and because we're now erasing. And notice how they're erasing the definitions of what is a man and what is a woman in order to, in order to rob men of their power of being solid and hand the power to histrionic women who fight via reputation. right so I've got news for you we're not supposed to be talking not supposed to be having this

conversation but yet we're having it anyway um make it in hot water with spotify on this one i don't know Sean we'll see but it's important this is the I'm in hot water everywhere Tom then you're doing it right Sean's used to it but no but I mean I you know and again like I'm not it is is exactly what we're dealing with so Just say no, right? It's interesting while we were sitting here chatting, I got a wall of text from I was responding to by, for my partner.

And he's talking about literally what I was talking about a half an hour ago with this Texas state guard. Like that's interesting, that Texas has its own state guard, which is only, you know, answerable to the governor. And now everybody's talking about exactly this. Will the Texas National Guard switch? And that's the way you do this.

You know, you just, you know, you don't, you make it. Biden's going to force a fork. Great. Well, you picked on the wrong state. You know, Texas has a state guard. Not under the control of not answerable in any way matters yet performed to the executive.

Isn't that fun? Going to the men comment, Tom. Then you ask the question of, what's that? Well, going to the men comment, men need to know how to stand firm. That's hard. That's a hard skill and it's a lost art, right? because in today's day and age,

there's more of it coming back, actually and more of it getting popularized, which is good for kids and other men to see. Right. In some ways, that's part of what, you know, that's part of what Jordan Peterson,

what made Jordan Peterson, who he was in the beginning, right? And what he was trying to teach everybody. And, you know, so he's done it. Putin is, is doing it on the world stage, I think of Robon,

there are other men doing it. And that's what we just, and that's what we, we have to look to those, those people as our, as a role models and just, you know, like just no, sorry, not doing it. Like when you, it's the old argument, it's the old statement by Mises, never give in the evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.

Right. But you do so simply by asserting your right, your right to private property, your right to life, you're right to your existence, you're right to say, no, everybody has the right to say no. There are no two more important letters in the English language in that particular, you know, it's the whole David Chappelle thing. There are two words in the English language and not supposed to put together, the and Jews. There's two letters you're not supposed to put together in the English language as far as Dabas is concerned.

N and O, same thing. We're not allowed to put those. We're not supposed to put those together. We have to say yes to everything. No, we don't. We can just say, you know what, that's enough. No more. I was funny.

Yesterday I was working on the article that I published yesterday. back to, I was thinking about the beginning of the L of S movements back in late 2018, early 2019. And there was a moment in early January of 2019, and it's linked in the article of one of Tucker Carlson's screams about what's happened. And it was, that was Tucker Carlson. On January 8th, 2019, his opening monologue was a 15-minute statement of, no, that's enough. That was honestly in many ways, I think, Carlson's coming out party. I think it was a turning point for him,

both rhetorically and professionally. It was very interesting. I watched it, rewatched it yesterday. I was like, huh, yeah, that's really good. And what it meant. And at the moment in time, when the, when the yellow vest were, it had been a thing for about five weeks, and then they were no longer in the news, right?

But they still kept going on for another year and a half, two years. And they've metastasized into, you know, now the French farmer are, much until the pandemic. It went on pretty much until the pandemic. Right. You know, I never, I never, I should probably start here. But if people want to follow you too, where can they find you?

Ah, at last, I thought you'd never ask. It's funny, it's only the 11th time and I'm finally like, maybe I should like let people find these folks. Yeah, on Twitter. Twitter, my handle is at NakedHedgey, and I have a substack, Alexcranner.substack.com, Alex Craneer's trend compass. So from there, all the other platforms are easy to find. As always, you can follow me at TFL 1728 on Twitter, where I do my best to make sure the worst version of me shows up every day.

This is not the worst version of me. I think that's my Twitter feed. You can follow me at my blog at tomolongo.m.m. and you can follow me. And you can also support all the work at Patreon slash gold goods and guns where we do, you know, twice-weekly market reports in the monthly newsletter and, you know, private blogs and all the rest of it. Well, boys, I appreciate you coming on and doing this.

You know, I think every time I have you on, I think it's very timely. But right now it just feels like, you know, it's no different when Nordstream blew up. I just feel like I'm like, should just probably release this immediately, you know, so that it's so, because I feel like in a week's time, everything's going to be changing so rapidly, or at least that's what it feels like right now. And, I mean,

if you go through the 11 folks or the 10 prior to this, there's some where we're talking about more generic topics. I mean that lightly, you know, because like, but like, you know, it seems almost timeless.

And there's other times where you're talking immediately to world events and what is happening like now. And there's a lot of things going on right now that, yeah I just I can't you know like I thought you thought we'd had all the excitement we were going to have for a little bit and I seem to get that wrong I seem to get that wrong every time and every time I say those words Alex laughs at me and Tom starts almost falling out of his chair and and here we sit you know the 11th time and there's no dull moment you know the dull moments are gone it seems at least for the foreseeable future yeah I think look I think that we're we're in a lot of trouble you know the The risks and the dangers are very, very real. But I want to also mention that there's something else going on, which I don't know how to formulate it, how to articulate what I see, hear, and feel. But something's going on in a very positive sense.

People are awakening to the truth and to the fact. That's one thing. But there's also a certain, it seems to me like an impulse of human. of people finally realizing that what matters is how we are to one another, how we treat one another. You know, it's almost as if some kind of a genuine love for one another is starting to blossom. And I see what people are reporting from different parts of the world. I see the scenes that they record in city streets, in its squares. of, you know, people, you know, spontaneously erupting in the songs and they hug each other and they,

you know, congregate. And that all is something. I think it's real and it's happening. I have no idea how it's impacting the events that we're experiencing. But I think that it's all very good because, you know, perhaps the most important part of these degenerates agenda is to atomize society, to get this social distancing, to make sure we're shut in our apartments, to shut us into 15-minute cities, to limit our movements, to limit our ability to commune with each other. So I see that people are spontaneously reversing this, but not just reversing. reversing it to the normal, but taking it to the next level. And so I think that's very good and encouraging.

And, you know, who knows? We watch the pageant, but I think we're going to a good place. I agree, Alex. And one of the things I think the way to look at it, you know, everybody's talking about, like, the great, like, the new memes are like the great reset, to turn it into the great awakening. And then the great, we thought it was the great acceleration for this year. That's what they've done. It's also the great demoralization.

And I think that's the term we really need to think about. What they're doing now is they're trying the they're very hardest to demoralize us in every way we can. And the great demoralization is also going to fail. And all we have to do again is just say no and say that's enough. We're not going to let you take us out. This is why I refuse to really, for example, I refuse to engage with this thing about the great taking by David Rogers Webb. not because I don't think I think he's anything he's done is wrong or what he's trying to eliminate is is is is is is in accurate or anything else I just don't think that it's going to happen I think the everything's there I think they want to do this but I don't think they're actually have the balls to go through with it and they want to do moralize yeah and the fact that the thing has made such a viral has become so viral is both a mirror to how in how anxious we all are even though this information is 15 years old in my in my mind but

it's that it's that and it's being purposefully amplified in order to create to be allowed to propagate and you know again nothing against David Webb or what there was research or what he's done or anything else I think you know from what I can tell man's an honest actor but how it's being used

I'm just not going to engage with because it's another demoralization tactic okay because they're not going to steal all our stuff dudes because if they do that's that they will be killing the goose that lays golden eggs and they will all be strung up by lamppost and fed the dogs. It's just that simple. Agreed. I can see that by how Davos has now become a parody of itself and the way people are talking about it and the way they're thinking about it.

Everything that started off this show that we talked about, you know, is an antipode to the anxiety about what you think they're going to do to what's next. If they try that, well, I got news for you. you know don't don't wish for that because you have no idea how this is actually going to turn out history tells us that it's going to be a bad it's going to be a bad scene we're probably going to have an actual honest of god you know a couple of years of very horrific war worldwide not this year well well you know but i hope i hope i'm wrong about that but that is my big case i don't i don't think you are tom i don't think you're wrong but here's here's the way i see it uh i i see that the humanity is kind of splitting in two, you know, because we're on a crossroads, you know,

it's going to go in the good direction or it's going to be going to be, go in the bad direction. But what I see happening is that part of humanity is going in the wrong direction and part of it is going in the right direction. You know, it's almost like there's a splitting. And I see that the part of the humanity that's going in the right direction, I see absolutely amazing things happening. You know, it's almost like there's this. organic growth and insane, absolutely insane things are happening. You know, like the completely improbable encounters, developments, initiatives, advancements are happening almost as if they're driven by spirits from outside,

like almost as if there were a helping hand from a spirit world guiding this development. But I also see a lot of people kind of, it's almost as if they were wilting in on themselves. You know, they're not trying to find their way out. They're getting lost in the madness. They're getting lost in the anxieties, in the addictions, in the all of these things. And so I think both things are right. What you're saying is part of it is getting really ugly, but part of it is getting really amazing. And I see these things happening both at the same time.

Well, it makes sense when you know, when when people have to face their their existential crisis, they can either rise to the occasion or they can will. And the, the problem for Davos, they need everybody to wilt. Yes, exactly. And you're seeing and you're not seeing that. Yeah. And you're not seeing that. Exactly.

Exactly. Not at all. Not at all. Comfortable wolves, folks. People are just getting uncomfortable now. They're reaching their comfort. reaching their uncomfortable limit. And they're saying, you know what?

Nope, there's another pack over there. We'll just join that pack over there. Actually, one of the coolest things of sitting on this side has been the people that have come through the existential crisis and are standing very firm. That has been one of the coolest things to see on this side of the podcast. There's a lot of stuff out there that can wind us all up. But there's a lot of interesting people. and I always speak for Canada because I can't, you know, I'm not touring around the U.S. or Europe

or on and on and on. In Canada alone, just some of the people that I've ran into, I'm like, holy crap, that's a person right there. Like, oh, that's somebody to get behind. And that keeps happening. That's more and more, not less and less, right? It's not like I bump into those once every in a while. That's happening more and that's exactly what I was talking about.

That's exactly it. And to be honest with you guys, this is, and this is not to bust our hands, pat and ourselves in the back or anything. But this is the goal, this is the job that we have set for ourselves. This is the task we, the three men sitting here right now talking about this, have set for ourselves to help facilitate and it's working. Yes. And it's both tremendously gratifying and a tremendous freaking burden and a tremendous opportunity. And you know, it's not it's not just the three men sitting here. It's literally tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people doing exactly the same.

So it's having a real moving power with it. You inspire people to be better. I get this day in and day out. I get DMs from patrons. I get DMs from people, readers or listeners or want and every day. And they say the same thing. And they say the most unbelievable things that all I can do is go, yeah, I'm going to, I have I have to get up tomorrow and live up to that.

Right? Yes. Every fucking day. And you know what? Good. I've been telling, I've been telling this story, Tom. I've been telling the story a couple times now since I came from. Went to Tucker Carlson, took my wife.

And, uh, you know, I love you, hon. But, uh, she, she's not a big Tucker Carlson follower. She doesn't, you know, she leaves a lot of this to me, which is, which is totally fine in my books. Um, and saying that, we're leaving. Rogers Place and a lady stops me and says, Sean Newman, how are you doing, whatever? And she's talking to me, she could I take you and your

wife's picture? And my wife's kind of, well, no, I'll just take your, you get in a, and she's like, well, actually, no, I'd like a picture of you two. And, uh, you could tell my wife's kind of like, well, why? And she goes, well, because Sean talks about marriages all the time, talks about how a man's supposed to treat a woman and like all these different

things that at times I think I talk about. And other times I'm like, I don't remember saying all those things, right? I just talk about how I live my life. But it was super cool to be stopped of all the places at a Tucker Carlson show with thousands of people and to get picked out of a crowd. And my wife's like, uh, yeah, I guess. And so she's, you know, I'm like, that's cool. Like of all the things that a listener has stopped me for it's to take a pick,

not to get a picture with me to have a picture of me and my wife. For that thought to be out there, I'm like, well, I'm doing my job somewhat, you know. Because I'm like, they keep attacking. COVID was the breakup of the marriage. Was the breakup of the family. Was the breakup of all these friend groups? Was the breakup of talking to your fellow countrymen. And for that to be sticking out there, I'm like, okay, I may not be getting everything right,

but I think that's a cool thing to have experienced here in the last week. But that's exactly, Tom, that's, Sean, that's exactly, we don't have to get everything right. There's so many of us that if you get something wrong, somebody will say, set you straight really fast. You're going to say like, hey, Sean, you know, that thing you said, that's not how it is, this is how it is. And you're going to go, oh, okay, cool. So, you know, like, we're, this whole process is refining the truth and the meaning and the,

and the culture and the spirit and everything that makes us who we are and what we are as opposed to who and what they want us to be. You know, Davos overtly, explicitly say that the Great Reset changes what it means to be human. And we're telling them, no, we already know.

We're discovering it ourselves. And it's awesome, isn't it? It is. It is. Amen. All right, guys. Thanks for coming on, boys, and doing this. That's one way to end it off. You know, I used to bite you guys

both not being positive enough. I think either, I'm infecting you or the world's infecting all of us or something because as much bad stuff, I hear a lot of positivity and I like it. So you boys have a great one and no worries, folks. We'll have them back on in February here. So thanks, thanks fellows for hopping on. Pleasures. Take care. Thank you.