Shaun Newman Podcast - #586 - Jeremy Mackenzie

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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Welcome to the Sean Neumabwe podcast today. I'm joined by Jeremy McKenzie. So, sir, thanks for hopping back on this side. Of course, man. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Well, you know, it's, I don't know. I don't know. We all get working in our, in our, I don't know, little areas. And if I don't reach out and get you back on, I probably be a couple of years. And then I'd be like, I don't have no idea what happened to the rage, you know.

And I'm like, I really need to bring them back on just to bring it up. You know, and I was just saying to you before we started, Daniel Bulford was just in studio. Um, and I was, it was just a nice, how's he? He's doing well. Yeah, he's living up, living up north. Um, oh, okay. Yeah, uh, grand prairie kind of country. Uh, and, uh, you know, I would say that he's soul searching, but, um, you know, he's been, um, I don't know, Dan's, Dan's, Dan's a wicked, dude. Like, I just, I think very, very highly of that man. And, uh, a lot of people do. He's a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, and a lot of people think, and a lot of people, think he's a plant, that he was a RCMP plant, and he's coming for us all. Well, who, and who are these people? Who says this? Internet schizophrenics that don't have any professional career experience in any field anywhere. Like, so the least credible people in the world say XYZ, but, you know, there's also, you know, alien lizard people inside the macaroni.

They're controlling our thoughts through the refrigerator device, you know, Wi-Fi. So, I mean, you know, it's not of any kind. No serious people think these things. So it's, you know, I don't know. It's just because the Internet is so polluted with so many of these voices now, it's kind of like great equalizer. You can just show up and be on the Internet and make noises and, you know, cause, you know, kind of stir the pot and sling mud at people and people's imaginations.

You can't see who's saying these things. It's just an account, you know, whereas if this was real life, like this is a homeless guy, you know, covered in stains and sweatpants on the street with a homemade sign that spelled incorrectly with letters he cut out of a series catalog. Golly Bullford works for a bha-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b. Like, you would never, you would just walk away. But because, you know, it's the internet, everyone will, maybe. Like, no, not maybe.

Yeah, it's, they typically, they love to do that. That's how they get you. Because I work for them, too. Maybe you probably do now, too. So this is like the second or third time we've talked. So you obviously have something to do with it. Like, to trick people into, you know, obeying the, you know, not breaking the law. And, you know, um, um, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh,

trying to find effective ways to community build and improve yourselves and resist tyranny. You know, Fed stuff that they would do. It's ridiculous. And they're the same types that are up there Fed posting and saying crazy stuff. Like, we like, I start hanging people in seriousness. Like, well, that's, you know, that would be said entrapment to the people that say, you know, encourage these kinds of things, which is what happened to me. That happens all kinds of people.

They show up. Morgan was actually just telling me the story. I don't think she told me this. but they had a fundraiser for me last year in Hamilton, and she was there. This guy kept trying to get a hold of her. Like, polar aside, like, I've got to talk to you about something. And she's like, I don't, he's like, listen,

we got to do something about the prime minister? You think we can take him out? Like, do you think we can get at him and like get, you know, we can assassinate him? And she's like, what in the, like, CIS is probably right? Like, you got to tell Jeremy, I got this great plan. Like, okay. It's insulting the level of like, like, did you think,

did you guys think that would work? Like, you know, this, this guy. He doesn't know who. anyone is. He doesn't know who Derek or any of the guys are. It's like, so you just bought tickets to a random fundraiser for like this niche internet terrorist guy and you don't know anyone involved. But you do know that we need to concoct violent plots to assassinate the prime minister. I see. I see. CIS isn't really, they're hiring. They get who they, who applies. And I don't think too many people are interested. So they got to work with what they got, which isn't much.

Well, you must, you must have saw the recent article on the military looking to get away from white men. Yeah, they want it to be more inclusive, more equitable. And I... That's how you win wars, I think. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. That is the primary function of the military is to fight wars and win them, because if you lose, it's the worst possible scenario ever. And the RCMPs doing similar thing.

They want trans identifying women and stuff. And my friend Alex, Ferry was commenting. on this and said, that is what they're doing. You've just basically signaled to everyone who you don't want. When I actually left the military in 2017, I was looking at transitioning to say, I was interested in a job in law enforcement. I looked at maybe the arts. Jesus, I thought you were about to say I was interested in transitioning.

And I was, well, well, that's, to another. That's what I did not see coming. Another career. It made a lot of sense. I mean, you know, you're both in uniform as a, you know, federal, you know, employee, representative of the Canadian public, and there's discipline, code of conduct, escalation of force, you know, firearms proficiency, all the, there's a number of tons of things I thought were applicable. So I was like, well, if I'm going to do anything, it makes sense.

But there was an ad, I remember specifically, I think it was for the Halifax police, but this has been all over the country where it said, we're recruiting and here's who we're looking for. Minorities, disabled people, people that speak Arabic, Turkish, you know, it was just down the line, trans identifying this that they them's minority and i i wrote them back there was one you know particular demographic that was missing i was like you could have just said no white men and that that would have you know saved you a lot of time and ad space because that's it was a long way to get around to that point you literally want everyone else but that and uh that's what they would tell us they even told us in the uh one of the interviews i went to uh well you do like the intake and you do the aptitude testing

pt you know physical testing and then you do like the interviews and stuff um me and a bunch of guys from two rCR were looking into doing this back and i don't know maybe fuck when this would have been 2012 or something i can't remember but uh a while ago and uh they didn't they didn't want anybody these guys were all like sergeants with like multiple deployments and like spotless records like exactly the kind of guy you would want um you know ideal candidate for that job anyway and they took none of it they did they took one guy that applied who was 19 he was native and he had three two or three uh i think one one was pending and the other one was a conviction and another one pending for just being drunk at work

and like drunk driving and just being a train wreck in the army. So he's a teenager with a drinking problem and he's now on RCMP, I assume, but they didn't want any of these guys. And they said how it works is you've got 30 spots at the depot or the training center in Saskatchewan, Regina, I think, is where the RCMP trainer guys. And they said, so there's 30 spots per class and say you and like You and I, we both go do the testing, and we score better than anyone. The top one and two, you're number one, I'm number two. We have the highest scores and everything, destroyed all the testing, whatever. But there were 30 women, minorities, trans-identifying, disabled, all of these alphabet suit people

who barely passed the minimum score by like a hair. There's 30 of them. You don't get a spot because they prioritize over everyone else. So even though you're the ideal candidate and the best possible, like blue-chip draft pick for the police force. If there's anybody ahead of you that's like in a wheelchair and identifies as some kind of sex pervert that, yeah, you're going in first. You're going in straight away.

Well, I had a, I had a, I ran a Christmas show for a group of companies. This is a couple of years ago now. This was coming out of the Freedom Convoy year. So I assume it was Christmas 2020, if memory serves me correct. He was a comedian from Emmington. and he was talking about how, I can't remember if it was just for laughs, I assume it was,

was talking about how they could only have so many white comedics. And I said, well, isn't that messed up? And he was like kind of caught off guard that I would say. He was, well,

you know, and I'm like, no, think about it. You know a comedy show. I don't care what color you are. I just want to, I just want to laugh.

If you can't make me laugh, I'm sorry, like, you could be whatever you want. A sucky comedy show. It's like going to a hockey game or something. Do you want to see a little bit of everything, or do you want to see talent? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, we've stopped hiring for, you know, meritocracy and appointing people based on their ability or recognizing people for their work. It's all the entire country seems to have taken a culture of a temperature attitude. Well, Boeing's the same way. Boeing was the one where that broke on, right? Boeing came out and they're, you know, you're going to have a midget or a disabled. planes are on fire falling out of the sky and they're like, it's fine. It's fine.

It's all good. It's all good. I actually talked to a guy in a weapons company recently, like a big one. And he's, you know, I didn't ask, but he definitely makes a lot of money considering what his job is. And he's one of the only guys they had in the country that can do these tasks and, you know, the professional sector that he's in. And they just got rid of him a while because he wouldn't get vaccinated. So like, you understand he's the only guy that can do this. and like, yeah, we don't need them.

Like, no, we do, actually. And you're firing people over politics, like critical staff. You know, oh, we don't have enough health care, but we'll fire 10,000 health care workers. They just acknowledged this week in Ontario that maybe the mandates had something to do with the staff shortages. You think? Yeah. You think? Two years later, we could have told you that.

But is there going to be any punishment for this? Like, there won't be. I don't think so. I don't think there's going to be. Who would carry that out? Everyone's excited now, like, well, it's just a matter of time. Whenever this stupid election comes in, the conservatives will come in, the liberals will go out, and we'll just carry on business as usual.

Everyone's done partying that, you know, we got the libs out. Do you think they're going to run an inquiry and look for criminal findings of, you know, what happened over the last, because they participated as well? They supported all the same mandates and lockdowns and said nothing. So are they going to charge themselves? They're going to investigate themselves? No. Well, I would say here in Alberta, we got close.

Right? We had the manning report, but it's, it's government investigating government. Yeah, it's toothless. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, maybe like cops investigating cops or something. I don't know if that's a good analogy, but like it's like, well, what are we going to do? Like throw half of the political force in jail. That's me and you. Oh, no, we, we operated in good faith. We did the best we could with the information we had. Hmm. It's, yeah, the cop, you know, the government investigating the government. At best, you'll get an apology. There'll be some fake apology.

Well, no, but we had Daniel Smith apologize. She literally walked in and apologized and the world threw everything at her and called. And then she apologized for the apology. Ridiculous. That doesn't keep anybody alive, though. Like, there's, it's like they're behaving as if it was a natural disaster. There was an earthquake or something. Like, no, there's people out there who took advantage of their positions and authority to enrich themselves and

advance their position at the expense and literally on the blood of our own people. And they're still walking around with big bank accounts. And you're like, oh, well, we shouldn't have did that. Sorry about that. Well, who's to stop them from the... Like, that's not how this works. If there's a murderer running around, you arrest him and you put him in prison so he doesn't murder more people.

Thieves. Here we just give him... Here we just give him bail. Right? We just kick him out unless, you know, your coots for us. Yeah, unless you're so If you're David Zegarach, you can run over, you can attempt mass murder and a terrorist

attack of a convoy demonstrators in Winnipeg. You just get house arrest. He's on house arrest for two years for a mass murder attempt. For the audience that doesn't know, tell a little bit more about that, Jeremy. Yeah, so David Zegarach is an Antifa left-wing terrorist. I think

he's got a conviction of some kind of child sex crime, sex pest, I don't know if it's photos or molestation something, or he's being investigated for something like that all. He got into a Jeep patriot, I think, a white one. And while the convoy was happening in February, and everybody was worried about terrorism and all this.

There was terrorism that took place from left-wing Antifa, David Zagirak, Z-E-G-E-R-A-C. He got in a, and it just plowed into a crowd of people, ran over four people. He hit as many as he could and then fled the scene and took off. It was later arrested for dangerous driving. And he's got a two-year, house arrest sentence.

But if I go, if I sneeze near a library, I'll be shot by snipers. Like I'll be attacked immediately. But they can, they can get away with this. Because if you're, it's not that he, the crime that he did, it's who he did it to. Because he did it to, you know, kind of us and we're horrible and unacceptable and disbicable and fringe, you know, it's kind of all bets are off. They'll just let you, they'll kind of look the other way as much as they can. Whereas this was in reverse, if this was one of these pride marches for the rights of some grown man to wash his junk in the women's washroom in front of 12-year-old girls.

And somebody ran into that crowd of people with a Jeep. Everything else, exactly the same. They would be getting 15 years in prison, 20 years in prison. Absolutely. No one's going to be able to convince me that wouldn't be the case. But not for a darling David Zegraak. He's got a record because he's a criminal. Did the anti-hate network write about that?

I don't even know if they're still alive anymore. I think Bernie Farber was forced to resign to spend time with his family. Days after Hategate came out and they're being thoroughly humiliated in court across the country. I've had like, it's up half a dozen senior police officers now. Staff sergeants, inspector detectives at the RCMP and stuff say, yeah, it's nonsense. The whole AT hate narrative is complete misinformation, nonsense, propaganda, smear. Like in court under oath, it's a discredited organization. But this is who law enforcement was taking information from.

And they don't report on, you know, we're here to report on hate and violent. But no, you're not. You just play for your team. And you put on this veneer, this costume of some kind of agent of benevolence. We're just kind of trying to keep people safe from the hate. Like there's nobody more hateful than them. That whole spectrum of people over there. and like the, if you want to call it the extreme left,

I'm not sure, you know, what kind of audience you have. That's more, uh, most people understand what I mean, you know, when you say that. But they're, yeah, they're protected and they've got, they've got, they've got, you know, senior policemen, they've got connections and CIS, they've got all this kind of stuff. Um, our country's been under ideological capture, you know, pretty much from top to bottom. You know, every time I bring you on, you ask what my audience. A ton of people love you. I never know who I'm talking to.

I'm just like, okay, because it's, I don't mean it to be condescending or insulting to anybody. No, no, no, no. When you're, say, like, so I'm a war veteran, right? The way I would speak to a classroom of high school students is not the same way I'm going to speak to a barracks full of guys that were, you know, I was deployed with or, you know, old guys from Korea. You know, it's going to be different. You just, but anyway, I don't know. But, yeah, I didn't want to say.

Well, I'm just looking back. I'm looking back real quick here. If anyone's wondering why the heck I'm taking my sweet time. because I have it. I believe you're number five. I just want to make sure that before I say that, I'm correct. 10, 9.

Mambo, bigot number five. Mamba number five. Yeah. Last year you're number five downloaded episode for me. We talked once. We talked once. Right on. And the level of hate I got from both sides.

Wow. Like, it was just like. So there's people. So there's people, right? Like, I mean, Daniel, Smith was just on the show not that long ago. Okay. Okay. And I have certain people who are like, you can't interact with certain people if you're

going to have her on the show. And I'm like, well, that makes about as much sense to me. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. That's not how I got here. And, you know, like I, when I was looking at February, I was like, man, it'd be fun to have some, uh, some people on that, you know, I was talking to right around the convoy type, right? It's two years since a convoy. And, uh, the guy I talked to before I walked out the door. and jumped in a vehicle and drove like 20 straight hours to catch the buddy thing was you. And I'm like, I remember that. I'm like, like, so, you know, and then they just slam everything on, you know, you're a terrorist,

you're all this, you're going along and on and on and on and you're just like, well, at some point, I don't know. Does it mean Jeremy is a perfect guy? No mean you've chatted about that. You know, you getting drunk and the comments about Piliye's wife, I think everyone can agree. that was pretty, that was pretty rough. But overall, I, I, we were just, we literally were just chatting about you like two days ago. Because, you know, the Coots 4 thing is an interesting, is an interesting thing, right?

Because they did plead guilty to having a gun at a protest. And, uh, what was it? What was the second one? What did, what did, uh, Morin, uh, plead? Yeah, there's some, uh, weapons trafficking, I guess. now the other guys are like we don't know what the hell he's talking like he's just signing something to go home

like he's just because they so what I think happened here I just spoke to a couple of the people last few days a couple of investigative journalists I'm with this and you know what happened what I think happened is because

we got this lawyer involved Daniel Song who's very very good like he's elite he's like that's if he can't do it nobody's going to do it whatever trouble you're in that's that's the liest level of kind of guy you're going to be able to get. And there were some plans it sounded like to go after the, there were hearings scheduled to challenge the search warrants

because they were bullshit and they never should have been issued. And if those get shredded and thrown out, that's it. The whole case is gone. All those guys were going away. So I think what happened was the Crown recognized what kind of danger they were in. And because Song only represents Lysak. Like, well, plead to this. What we know you're guilty of is there's a gun where it shouldn't be, and that's it.

That's all they really have. So just, and you can go home with basically a parking ticket. And then that way there's no reason for song to stay involved. And then, you know, you keep the other three cases alive. One of them ended up kind of piggybacking on this, you know, kind of arrangement to, I think that Jerry Moran was the other guy. And he pled guilty to weapons threat, you know. But, you know, now you still got two in there, two out of four. It was that or lose the whole.

The whole thing would have been thrown out with no convictions. Like, is that what you want if you're in the crown? I mean, you're in a bad spot. So. Then dumb question, Jeremy, because this is what I've been, what I've been trying to figure out, right? Is if, if it's like, listen, you got the, you got the ace in the hole. This lawyer is like, you know, the Muhammad Ali of lawyers. Okay?

He's walking in. It's as close to a sure thing as you're going to get. And he's saying, listen, this is getting thrown out in. like a month and they know it. Why plead to anything? Well, yeah, and I've kind of been in this position a little bit so I can kind of understand. Like he's so you're in there for two years already. Your kids are out there, you know, and there's no, that's the thing. There is no such thing as a sure thing. They'll all tell you that. Any good lawyer will tell you that. They're like, I can be pretty confident, but I, you can never guarantee anything. And then if we toss in our criminal

or judicial system, it really there is no sure thing. So fair enough. And right, the way things have been going and there's ways out of it. Like, I, I, you know, I've been like, you know, mine have always warned me all along, like, look, it looks good. Like, this makes sense. It should work. Like, there's no reason, but I've seen crazier things happen. So that's kind of always the situation. So in the one hand, you have signed this basically traffic ticket of an offense.

If this was any other time period, they just get pulled over. Like, sir, you have a gun in your car or truck by accident. Like, ah, I forgot it was there. Well, that's not authorized. You're not allowed to do that. Here's a fine and a license suspension. That's what they would have had. but instead he gets two years in prison.

What? That's crazy. But if like that's all he's going to walk away with, and that's a for sure thing, versus the unknown of maybe it all gets thrown out. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe this carries on straight through to trial, and it's another six months.

You know what I mean? Like I can see how that makes sense, you know, if you're Chris Lysak and if you're his attorney. That's, uh, as at the end of the day, that's their job. That's the lawyer's job. do what's in the best interest of his client and is it what's better for him and what does he want to do

and if it's take this slap on the wrist fine for nothing basically and go home or risk you know like uh who wants to be a millionaire like you know let's push on to the next question and see how far we can ride the snake and roll the dice you know i i i don't uh i don't think it was a bad i think it was a huge win to go from something as serious as conspiracy to murder and then having to you know uh well i there's a weapons charge like that's that's that's that's that's a bad i don't That is a, that's a chasm of a difference. It wasn't even like, well, for, so they arrested him for uttering threats. Where did that charge go?

And then they charged him later with conspiracy to commit murder. And then what he ends up pleading guilty on is a misplaced firearm. Like, the credibility of the RCMP is in jeopardy here. And the Crown Prosecute, like, this is a huge deal. This is a big problem. And a lot of people are, like, in the legal world are paying close attention to this. And it's not, I don't think this is going to end well. I think there's heads, heads have to roll over this.

This is crazy. And what did it all get predicated on? The anti-hate network did this, knowingly. Seated the ground with this insane narrative, this crazy story for years, fed all of this into the police and into public safety. Oh, yeah, oh, trust us. We're hate experts. right it goes to the public safety office they tell the prime minister look we've got terrorists

everywhere they're going to attack they're going to attack police like this is what he's being told so you're the prime minister you're being told this by public safety you're being told this by your public safety minister ceas is telling you this you only have minutes to make decisions or hours maybe like if you don't like what if something happens right so whose fault is it there's a lot of people somewhere between and we know from the hategate documents detective inspector Simon Pelley there's only I don't know how many of these there are in the RCMP 20 like those it's a high rank and he said I something I can't do it verbatim but the facts of this case do not reflect was being reported in the media and we're in danger of

basically going down a rabbit hole here so that so somewhere between him and this was January February of 2022 this was a known like the RCMP is like yeah this is a nonsense story back then. So somewhere between him and public safety minister, Marco, somebody decided, I'm just going to make something up. I'm just going to lie, I guess. I'll just say whatever. Can you, uh, you know, it's one of the things, I can't remember if it was it, Zach Schmidt,

I can't remember who I was talking to about hate gate. Um, but, you know, I've never had anyone on to, to bring everybody up to speed if you would. I assume lots of people read up, read on it. But at the same time, I don't think it's something I should just slide by idly. It's a crazy story. It's one of the crazier story. Even after it happened, right after the convoy was fresh, when they enacted the EMA, I could see it all play out instantly.

And I was just, it was not laughing. Like, this is the craziest thing. This is ever, I cannot believe that they did this. Like, you can't go back from this. You suspended, you enacted martial law over a meme. you did. And here we are two years later, and that is becoming unavoidably true. Like, there's nowhere, everywhere, they're looking under every rock pile and carpet for,

where's the terrorists, where's the weapons caches, where's the boogeyman, where, where, where's any of it? And all this time, they would, well, the coots, though. Yeah, that also nonsense. Like, you, there's literally no justification for any of this. There's anti-hate articles written by Evan Belgord having a hysterical feminine mental breakdown, which was copy and pasted by police, copy, and pasted to ceases, copy and past it to the public safety minister, copy and pasted sent to the prime minister.

Pretty terrifying. These are the people that are supposed to be guarding the walls at night while we sleep from the Chinese influencing our elections to influencing the police investigations, maybe organized crime, shipping fentanyl into the country. Where is all that coming from? Are we going to go to war with the Russians and the Iranians? Who's keeping track of their agents and their spies and assets inside the country? What's going on with all these Palestinian protests?

kind of terrorist angle we need to worry about there because our country's, you know, facilitating a destruction and genocide of all these people. I mean, it stands to the reason somebody's going to be pretty upset. There's a lot of things to focus on. And the people that are supposed to be keeping that under control and keeping an eye on that to keep us all safe are chasing a goat figurine statue around the country. And no one's fired, really. I saw an ad the other day that the guys were sharing around on Twitter or Cease is talking about how they're, we're going to focus on domestic terrorism, ideologically motivated violent extremism and all the, all the other things I just mentioned, no, people that disagree with the government

domestically, that's CESIS's mandate now. They've made that very clear. That's what they've been doing. So, yeah, we're in really, we're in really scary, bad shape in this country, I would say. When you say we're in very scary, bad shape, you think we're worse off than we were two years ago? Oh, yeah. Two and a half years ago? Well, it's hard to say. I mean, the same people are still in every place they've been. I mean, that's still the same.

But I mean, I guess on the other side of it, the flip side of it, the networking and kind of evolution of the popular resistance has grown significantly. A lot of people are now in touch and working with each other and combining efforts and so on. There's been a lot of pushback. There's been a lot of defeats in court, especially for the state. A lot of these charges, I mean, I'm going to beat every single one. Canada has a 64% conviction rate. I've had 20, I don't know how many charges, 23, 24 or something like that.

I'm going to beat every single one of them. I should have gotten, I should have at least six convictions already. I have none. What's going on in this country? Why did these guys spend two years in jail for something that didn't happen? You know? When you say you should have six convictions, you're saying the percentage of what they're doing, percentage-wise, you should have six.

Statistically, right? If you get 10 charges, you're going to go down on six of them. Statistically. That's, you know, overall. So it's odd, right? Chris Sky's another guy like that. He's had, I don't know how many tickets and fines and charges and stuff. He's beaten all of them.

So it just, it adds more weight to the idea that the government is using the legal system to attack its critics and attack its detractors, which, I mean, in my opinion, that's absolutely what's happening. been happening for a long time, not just recently. But what's different now is that they've made such a high profile mess out of all this, me, Coots, everybody, Pat King and Tamara Leach and all of these got all this stuff they're doing, that it's caused a lot of people to stop and pay attention, and they don't like what they see. Because if I'm a, if I'm just somebody who's not paying attention, I'm just a normal, I'm a liberal voter or I'm not really politically active, I'm just somebody going about my business, mind, and my life like most of the country tries to do. And you see the stuff in the news and you see all the arrests and the,

and this and that. You're like, okay, yeah, well, you know. And then they all start, you know, nobody's guilty of it. Like, you know, it starts to become confusing and scary and troubling because even, you know, those people who want to, you want to believe that everything's under control and everything's being looked after, but it's getting really hard to pretend that's true when you can open a newspaper or look at anything and just nothing makes sense anymore. And they're, it's obvious to nearly everyone that they're lying all the time.

And now they have to lay off all these media layoffs are happening everywhere because there's no value. Nobody cares what a Rachel Gilmore has to say. Like no one's interested in these Valley Girl opinion pieces and this they want, people used to listen to the news because it had value to them because it had information about what was happening that they could reliably use to navigate like a map of the world that they're in. And instead they're just being force-fed virtue signaling garbage and social justice. crap and cultural Marxism. Like nobody, they didn't ask for that. They came for what was going on and you've, you know, berated them for an hour and a half about white supremacy and white privilege and why you're a piece of crap and you need to worship Indians and all this kind of stuff. So they tune out. And you know, now you're all being fired because no one cares what you have to say.

And if you've done your jobs, none of this would happen. Everyone would still be in their positions. You know, the media would still be where it is. But in order in order to have done their job, they would have to admit and follow along with the freedom combo. and realize it wasn't what it had been said it was. Yeah. I think journalism, I'll compare it to the military, because it's the only thing I've ever, I don't have to do. Like anything, like a lot of jobs that can,

and Canada's case specifically. So you could join the military in like 97, you know, 95. We fought a war in Korea. There was a couple little dust-ups in like Bosnia here. But generally, you can join the infantry, right? or something and be in the army for 20 years and never have to fight a war. You can hold that position and never have to go to work for real because it's kind of easy. It's just safe, you know, good times, you know, let a roll.

There's not really much, nothing to report, you know, everything's all quiet on the Western Front and so on. Same with the media. But when things get hairy and now it's, now there's consequences and risk and it's scary and like, yeah, you're going to have to ask these questions. You have to go up there and ask the chief medical officer, what the fuck he's doing or ask the price and they don't want to because they're well i could lose my job but we get funding from these people this this and that so in the military uh when uh afghanistan happened and

all of a sudden canadian soldiers were involved in hardcore street fighting and house-to-house you know bayonet to the death fights and stuff for the first time since korea all these guys that all of a sudden uh weren't going to go they were fine pretending to be you know warriors in the military but then when it came time to do the job thoughts of people found excuses and their cats are sick and you know they're so i'm pretty fortunate to have three guys guys in here once a month right now for a military roundtable that all served, all served in Afghanistan and saw the biggest fights. We do a military roundtable.

Henceforth me asking about your travel arrangements. I'm like, it'd be interesting to have Jeremy McKenzie on a, on a military roundtable. Sure. Yeah, I'd do that. You do it in person out there. We do it in person. We do it in person. Yeah, Lloyd Minster.

Lloyd Minster. Lloydman, okay. The demilitarized zone, the border state of, yeah. It's like the North and South Korean DMZ in Saskatchewan and Alberta I figure love it here You know Alberta thinks were the edge of the world Saskatchewan thinks were the edge of the world

We got what did I say We got hardly any union I mean sure you got a little union but not much You got small government You know when we did the one million March for children Yeah for children We had I don't know 650 700ish people out

Against 12 protesters It was you know like To me that makes sense Yeah I would, I would, who, who are we talking about? Who are we talking about? Who's coming? Are they cool? Let's like go to a party. Who's going to be there? It's, uh, they're Princess Patricia's. Uh, they're, they're, they're, they're old school. I'll send you a link. You, you, you listen to Chuck Prodnick and Jamie Sinclair and Willie McDonald's. You'll, you'll, you'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah. How old are they? Um, generation or older? No, older. I got to think, sorry, boys. Are you, are you, are you, are you? Sounds like they would have been early 50s, late 40s?

would have been, they would have been my NCOs in the Afghanistan years. They would have been sergeants and war officers. I'll send you the, I'll send you the last one. Okay. The, the, the, the, the, the, nobody complains about those three coming on the podcast. If it was up to some listeners, they'd come on every week because they just, they, yeah, they've been through the shit, right? They've, they've seen, they've, they've seen it.

And they talk about how other people. I think the, the, I think the Patricia's had the most savage, like, we tried to spread it around, you know, so not the same units have to keep doing this. But I think they, when we added up, I think they had the most, yeah. I think they had some pretty savage rotation. Who did you serve with? I was with the RCR, a Royal Canadian Regiment. I'll bring it up on the next.

They're coming in in like two weeks' time, so I'll bring it out. They're going to make fun. I mean, yeah, call me all kinds of names. I'll say, well, you're a bunch of cowboys at only standards. You're all with your big hair and you're, look at me, I'm such cool. Yeah, it's fun. The inter-unit rivalries fun. Yeah.

But, yeah, when I went to, I spent a little time at C-Sore, and it was just guys from everywhere. It wasn't just RCR guys. There's Patricia's PPCLA guys there. There was French Van Du guys. Your armor regiment guys, engineer guys, people from everywhere. So, yeah, it's just, you get to meet a lot of guys from over the military. So that was, that was fun. But yeah, I love the, a lot of great guys that Patricia's for sure. Now, I'm going to assume if I was placing a bet, I'd place heavily that you did not watch the Super Bowl. I'm just going to say, I'm going to say that's, like I'm putting a lot of money on that right now. What gave it away? Yeah.

No, I didn't really spend the time. Did you see the ice spice thing, though? I don't know what that is. Is that the weird pumpkin girl with the head? Yeah, and the upside down Christ and the ice spice is this. I'm old now. I've just realized in the last couple of years I've now reached like dad world where, you know, there's a new celebrity song. I'm like, what is this young people?

What's on her head? Why don't understand? I don't understand anything they're doing. I don't care at all. I don't know who's famous. I couldn't care less. Ice spice is it is a, is a, American rapper. There you go. Born in Bronx. I couldn't tell you. I just, I was, you know, like, I watched. And the fact how many times they showed Taylor Swift on there, I was, I was just like, this is like, this is the story they've been, they've been just salivating for, right? Kelsey wins the Super Bowl, has a bunch of big plays. And they just keep showing Taylor Swift over and over and over again. And then Ice Spice pops up with an upside down.

down cross on doing what looks to be, I don't know. And you're just like, you go down the conspiracy rabbit holes and you're like, I don't know. I don't know where, where to go in this. I think the simplest way, that's the cool kids club. If you're in the entertainment industry in Hollywood and the music, yeah, they're all, that's what they're all doing. That's what's, uh, the Satanist stuff.

It's cool, cool to hate on the Christians and, yeah. Yeah. I think there's some, there's a little bit to this, uh, there's, there's a cult, I think, for sure. I don't know to what degree or how big it really is, but I think there's a lot of that kind of, uh, it's not new either. Like Madonna started doing this stuff in the 80s. Like this has been kind of around for a long time, but it's really over the top now. I mean, they just have straight up some of the other, uh, some of the concerts in Super Bowl stuff. Like, what was the one guy? I can't remember that. There was some, there was an outdoor.

No, sorry. It was like an outdoor music festival and the, in the back the, uh, the stage artwork was like a portal to hell. It's like, yeah, a bunch of, The people had seizures and some of them died and there was like a trampling and you're just like. That was a rapper. What is this? That was a rapper. I'm trying to think of who that was. Somebody will text me and be like, oh, is that guy?

Travis. Is that it? Or maybe, I don't know. Regardless, the entertainment industry is crazy. I think there's a lot of sick people in there. Yeah, Travis Scott, Astro World Concert. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah.

Only 10. Yeah, yeah, man. Double digits. People died at your concert. I don't know. Do you don't go into any of those rabbit holes? I used to. I was literally just talking about it.

A guy called me, and when we were sitting here going back and forth, he's like, what did you think, Ice Vice Place? I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know. So, I mean, who, like, this is just some, like, people like that don't even matter. You're just a here today, gone tomorrow, some face to throw up and make money and, you know, whatever.

Sure. The people that really matter, though, yeah, they're scary, and they do scary things. Like the, you want to, in this vein anyway, the opening, I think I've called the Goddard Tunnel, G-O-T-T-H-A-R-D, I think it's Gautardard. And it was an extension or a improvement on, or, yeah, I think extension of the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland, the CERN project. And they had this big ceremony to open the tunnel. So obviously very exciting, you know, who we're all going to go. Some of them, some interesting political figures were there and a lot of rich and powerful, influential people. And it's like, I remember seeing that, yeah.

When you're opening a, oh, we've got a new science machine that's going to help us, you know, advance into the future, everyone. Let's celebrate by, I mean, what does that look like? Well, apparently it looks like a strange, you know, giant eyeball tunnel with people dressed in goat costumes and just a creepiest stuff you've ever seen. And like, oh, look, there's the chancel of Germany. Like, what is this? What the hell is this? If I saw this anywhere, I would leave immediately because this is like, someone's going to be sacrificed and murdered here. Like, we're in a cult, guys.

This is crazy. Yeah, there was, anyway, you can go look it up. It's, I think the Cern Tunnel opening ceremony or Goddard Tunnel, something like that. Like, what's the explanation for that? And like, oh, it's just art. No, what kind of art? For who? why? Like who

anyway, they're weird people. There's weird psychos everywhere, yeah. And then there's things like Massad Island, where you've got all the, you've got the presidents and tech moguls and CEOs of the energy industry going down to this island hosted by Jeffrey Epstein to do God knows what. And then you've got

Bohemian Grove. Do you ever see that video with Alex Jones busted in a Bohemian Grove? Bohemian Grove? We're all to stand around naked in robes, worshipping an owl statue or burning human effigies of children. And, oh, yeah. Like, and these are senators and congressmen and yeah, okay. So that's not what I do with my friends, but that's a lot of weird stuff out there, man, for sure.

These people are crazy. They're crazy. A lot of them are legit insane. Like, just watch the top for 10 minutes. Do you think it's insane, though? Not that, not that I'm going to preface that. Not that what they're doing is insane, that they are insane. Or do you think they believe?

deeply in the power behind the ritual. Some of them definitely do, yeah. Otherwise, why would they do it? People that that level of success and influence aren't just wasting time with nonsense. And it makes sense. Like they're not, you know, they wouldn't, they're completely consumed and obsessed with, you know, influence and power and in money and what's going to bring them more of that and do more. So why do this if there's no, if there's nothing to this, if this isn't going to advance them in some way

or bring them somewhere closer to something they want? Why would, why? Why have time? It's like, I could use these three hours to do any number of other things. Why am I sitting around watching people dance around and have simulated orgies and goat costumes, giant eyeballs floating around? Like, why am I doing this?

I could be in Wall Street right now. I could be, there's a million other things I could be doing. I could be getting donations from billionaires. I could be running political campaigns. I could be getting, you know, DA's appointed in, you know, key states to enforce crazy DEI laws on the population. There's a million things I can be doing, but right now, you know, it just doesn't make sense to me. Like, I don't think that they're the type of people to just, you know.

Oh, no. To me, that's why I say I don't think they're insane. Sure, are there a few that are insane? Yes. Every single side of this. There's some people out there that are wacky to vacy. I think they believe deeply in what they're practicing. And I would probably argue that they feel, well, I mean, they're, they're dabbling on the dark side of things.

And the dark side of things is probably pretty terrifying, to be honest, from where I said. Well, one of the, something recently that, I mean, we just don't know. You never get to see what goes on behind the curtains, really. But they had this guy elected, does the name, Havier or my lie? Yeah, from Argentina. Yeah, it looks like nerd Wolverine. Yes. Something like that.

Immediately, he's like, I'm converting to Judaism immediately. I can't wait. I'm so excited. and now he's brought to Israel and he's like in tears he can barely stand up because he's in tears he's so emotional

and bring him up to the wall I watch this what the hell is why is it what is significant about that what I was just talking to my brother about this like he goes and he kisses the wall

what is the significance of this well in the old days the emperor used to have like a ring you could kiss you know to signify your allegiance to him. You know, come kiss the ring. Before we carry on, is that a diagonal ring?

Yes. Yes, it is. Derek had a bunch of these made up, like these obnoxiously huge Super Bowl-type rings that he was selling. You've got to show up back on the screen here for me for just for just one second here. It's pretty outrageous.

I don't know how many of these we have. I'm sure that's going to send some people wild. We've sold hundreds of them already. I don't know. They've been around for a while. Have you got your diagonal, Super Bowl ring yet? No. You're not part of the club then. That's a season, season two, limited edition.

We don't have any much of many more of these. I don't know if he's still making them or not. So you look at the wall then and you go, the wall is the ring of the current empire. It's a gesture of submission, I think. I mean, you're seeing every U.S. president go there. Why? What's the significance?

That's what I, but did you see, did Trudeau do it? I'm not sure. I don't remember. I'm not sure. I'm not sure of Canadians. Because everybody was the Malay thing, right? He goes over to the Wef, and he calls out the Weft for everything they're doing. And you're like, oh, wow.

You know? And then it's like a week later, he's kissing the wall and nobody talks about it. I'm like, that's like, well, is that every leader? Is that something to do with Argentina? Is that a U.S. thing? I'm sure my phone is going ballistic when people hear this. People, people should watch, like, I don't, they shouldn't watch much TV at all because it's really terrible. But there was one, you remember Game of Thrones?

Game of Thrones. House of Cards. House of Cards. House of Cards is a much more realistic representation of what politicians are actually like. And Hillary Clinton said this at a supposed to be a private function, but it got leaked out.

You know, she, at these donors and stuff, right? And they're asking her about, you know, this, like, why should we give you money to be president? And she's like, listen, you have a public position and you have a private position. What I tell everybody out here isn't necessarily what I actually think. It's just what I'm telling them, so they'll do what I want.

You know? like that's that's how it is so there could totally be an understanding where he's like i'm gonna go say oh w f bad boo yeah whatever it's just i'm just placating my base it's just it's just it's just theatrics yeah they know it's like like pro wrestling you know if you're like if we had some kind of uh like people people do this sometimes i've noticed this the craftier schemier types internet personalities and stuff sometimes they'll have like fake fights and create fake kind of beefs and stuff just to generate attention and money and, you know, get people talking about.

But behind the scenes, like, yeah, we're just, this is all just putting it on, you know, to manipulate people. And that's, I mean, who knows? He's, but the weird thing, like, why is a grown man brought to, I mean, he looked like his entire family had been killed. Like, this is the way his body, like, the guy's barely functional. He's, like, in tears.

He's emotional. He's shaking. He's up to be... Well, and I would, I would say, from my angle, to me, it looked like he was experiencing God, like, for the first time. And I'm like, okay so this is a pretty powerful ceremony that that's what I took out of it I'm like this could this looks to be a very powerful moment for him because he's he's sobbing you're you're absolutely right he's being hung by another grown man which is whatever and he's sitting there

bawling his eyes on what is going on over there what is significant about this and why have you know and here I am and I'm talking about a guy really needs to do a little research on it just figure out what the whole ceremony's about because you know like I just don't understand it. Well, they're powerful. Israel's got, I think they're probably the most powerful country in the entire Western, like, the whole thing. Like, everybody has to come there to kiss the ring. DeSantis was passing laws in Florida on anti-BDS. Like, you're not allowed to criticize Israel, you're not allowed to boycott Israel, you're not allowed to do any of stuff, an American governor of Florida. And he signed those bills in Israel. He went over there to sign them ceremoniously in front.

Like what does that suggest the relationship is? They didn't come to him. He went to them. The president goes to them. We all have to go there, kiss the wall, put the hat on, do the dance. Come on now, let's go, be a good boy. It's disturbing. And then when you combine this with, oh, there's an island.

And like, it's the only one. You know, they kept calling it Epstein Island. It's not Epstein Island. Epstein was an employee. It's Mossad Island. Mossad is the intelligence network of the Israeli government. And they're blackmailing politicians and CEOs and influence. influential people, billionaires, to, you know, follow their agenda and do what they want.

And now you've got people going there and kissing the wall. Like, you know, forgive me. I got to come out and say it, but like, it's not looking good here. I should have picked up on this earlier, but Massad Island. I, I, so Epstein Island is Mossad Island. Yeah. So his girlfriend, Galane Maxwell, my father, Robert, was a Mossad agent. And Jeffrey was given a nice little gig here.

Like why, his whole background story is insane and ludicrous. He was like some kind of teacher. He's not even very intelligent, but he ends up with this massive black male ring operation. And he's convicted for child sex crimes once already, let out and back to continuing what he's doing. He's still cavorting with a lot of these figures and talking with them and being friendly with them. Like they know he's a convicted pedophile. They don't care. Kills himself in jail, you know.

Things like, and you've got, like Trump is pardoning Jonathan Pollard, who's an Israeli spot. helped steal nuclear secrets. And he gets pardoned. The January 6th guys didn't get pardoned. Jonathan Pollard did, though. There's a million of these little strange. The USS Liberty was an attack on American sailors, a U.S. Navy ship in 1967.

Dozens of them were killed, hundreds of them were wounded. And the United States, in its entirety, history, has never called off a rescue mission except for that one. They could turn the planes out. Never mind, bring them back, let them sink and let them die, They found it was Israel attacking the boat.

And they tried to wash it under the rug. The Israelis tried to sink the boat to blame it on the Egyptians, so the Americans would fight the Egyptians for them in the war. Like, I can go on. Like, this is everywhere. A-PAC, there's American-Israeli political action conference or core. I don't know, whatever it is, but in America, in any serious country, if you're basically an agent of another state.

So if I'm in Canada and I'm a billionaire, or where the Coke brings, others or somebody and I'm like hey I really for because it's in my interest to get this particular governor of Montana elected I'm going to spend tons of money getting him elected on behalf of the Canadian people like that's me interfering in an American political process right I'm not American but I'm so John F Kennedy tried to stop that and you said APAC is going to be registered as a foreign lobby so there's going to be you know highly scrutinized you know in caps on things are going to be allowed to do and this whole money pipeline into just buying politicians is going to be over well that never got anywhere because he got shot in the face.

At the same time, they're investigating the Demona nuclear plant in Israel, which had been stealing nuclear weapons secrets and material from Newmec in the United States. All of this is proven to be true. So, and now, to top

it all off, you've got the Super Bowl that just happened. You've got everybody, you know, sidebar, hilarious, BLM gaslighting, you know, the trans stuff, the COVID stuff. I remember they were burning jerseys and season tickets, like, I'm never going to support the NFL again after all this. Yeah, you will.

Two years later, there you are. Look at you. And everybody's doing that. At the same time, this is happening, Israel takes full advantage and bombs deliberately in broad daylight a refugee camp full of women and children because they know nobody's going to care. I always paid attention. Everybody's watching the Super Bowl. And nobody's going to hold them accountable for it.

And we're sending them billions of dollars in weapons and funding and money and aid and Elon Musk. Well, I keep wanting to say this. He's the on paper of the people we're allowed to know about and talk about. He's the richest man in the world. He's probably in the ballpark of top 100 or something maybe, but I'm sure there's people substantially wealthier than him that you just don't hear about, like the Rothschild family, for example. But he buys Twitter.

He's got so much money. He's for fun. He's like, I'm just going to send rockets into space because I'm bored. That's how much money this guy has. And he's made to, he buys Twitter. And then he's, the October 7 thing happens. There's a huge PR disaster for the Israelis. All of this war crime stuff is filtering.

It's all getting out on Twitter. A lot of things I'm talking about people are hearing for the first time. Elon Musk all of a sudden has a Twitter space on his own platform where he's condescendingly lectured by seven rabbis. Then he's flown over to Israel and has to, oh, look at all the stuff that, well, there's a genocide happening behind him. Look at this empty crib. Oh, look at these. Then he's whisked away to Auschwitz for a browbeating, gaslighting, you know, how dare you tour of Auschwitz? And now Twitter is censoring and suppressing anybody that's talking about any of these things.

So again, he's the richest man in the world, and not even he is allowed to have these opinions. Not even he's allowed to talk like this on his own platform that he bought. So what does this suggest? How powerful are these people? I would suggest probably near the top to be able to do, like who else could do things like this? Could the Russians do this? Could the Chinese get away with this? Could any other country in the world get away with any of this?

I don't think so. And that's why I'm not allowed to have a bank account. and keep getting arrested and chased around, and the media hates me and so on. It's probably part of the reason why Ezra L'Anne doesn't like me so much, but that's okay. You just said a whole lot there. I did, yeah.

I'm like, I'm not sure what kind of audience where you guys are at, you know. Is this all new to you? Is this, you know, some I've heard before, some I haven't? Is this all right? You have a nervous breakdown? Parts of it certainly, certainly new, you know? Parts of it certainly new.

parts of it, I've heard rumblings. I've, you know, I've been yelled at an awful lot, if I'm being honest on the text line, that I don't talk about Israel, Palestine enough. People don't know. Because the information is heavily gate-capped and suppressed and hidden, and anybody that talks about it is punished if you're not on the wrong team. And maybe this is the wrong way. And see what your thoughts are on this.

When I look at it, I'm like, I can't, and part of it is probably exactly what you just said, how much everything's suppressed and everything. I'm like, I can't make heads or tails of any of it. Because like, look what they did in Canada. If you didn't know the channels, and I mean,

by the end, it was pretty easy because it was our country and we saw how many cameras were just sitting there filming the entire bloody thing anyways. But look at how many things they tried doing with, you know, burning down this or, or defecating on this or the Nazi flag or,

or the protestant as it goes through Manitoba, they're taking picture of PPC hats and Trump make America great and trying to just like frame it. And so I could see how in Canada back then, you know, there was a lot going on. And by the end,

you understood, I think. But I mean, still there's people two years later that still, you know, yeah. There, I mean,

there wasn't justified. It's like, what? It's like, yeah. I'm glad that came. I was more surprised they said that. And so when I look at Israel,

Palestine, I, sorry, Jeremy, I just, I look at it and I go, how do I do this justice with not being there and knowing what the heck is going on? Yeah. Well, and they do a good job of keeping the information under wraps, too, because unless you're intimately involved in that world, like, you don't see it.

Like, there was people that, you know, use a convoys example. They legitimately thought it was a bunch of terrorists, like overthrowing the country, and it was chaos, and it was just an insurrection. Like, they believe this, because when you go watch CBC, that's what they were telling people. Yes. The Fifth Estate hit piece they tried to drag me into. They didn't succeed very well, but they, you know, mangled poor Pat King and James Bouter and his wife. And they just, that's what they were going to do, right?

I knew what they were up to. I wasn't going to participate. But they used a clip, the famous one of the horses trampling all the people and knocking the woman off the mobility scooter and stepping on that guy's head and all of that stuff. That clip is in the Fifth Estate piece. And they used the frame before the horse makes contact with the first protester. that's when they cut the shot. Like they're deliberately lying. They know what they're doing.

They know what's really going on. And they're framing it and bending it and twisting it to make it look at something else. And I was sitting in Lloyd. This is probably four or five months after. And a man came through to talk about Ottawa at a church. And so I went because I was, well, I don't know if me and you've ever talked about this, but, you know, I left abruptly both five, six days in. Anyways, a guy comes through, was talking about it.

and I was really curious what he was going to say. And he lived in Ottawa, blocks away from it, and was terrified to go to it. Terrified. And he talks about, like, you know, he's just like, I got to finally at some point, I got to go see this, right?

Man of faith, he's like, I'm got to go see this. So he's literally gearing himself up. And he's, you know, he's, you could tell on stage,

he's like, he's visibly nervous telling the story, which is kind of funny. And, and he's, And, you know, he's like pumping himself up. And he says, he goes down, he parks his vehicle. He starts walking.

He's terrified. He's heard all these stories of how, like, the place is just going to be on fire and everything else. And then he's looking at everybody, he's smiling. And there's kids everywhere. And pretty soon he's high fiving everybody. And he's like, what? What? They got to.

So he jumps in his car and he turns around. He drives all the way home. And he says, you guys got to get in the car and go see this. So if the people sitting in Ottawa didn't know, yeah, the people sitting on this side of the country, or BC, let's pick on somewhere like Vancouver, had no clue

and probably still don't have any clue. And that's how powerful the media is. You're controlling the input sensory inputs that everybody receives. Instead of experiencing the world firsthand or through stories or information being passed on by people you trusted back in the day from your family and friends

or people from around town or whatever that said this or that happened or you've got to see this and so. We're living in basically a pod world where a lot of people work from home now or they work at, you know, an office building, they're in their car. Your actual interaction with people is very minimal. It's mostly this now, and this is all controlled by the same people. They can control what's on the screen, what's not on the screen. And if you don't know what to look for or where it is, you just don't see it.

So if you're somebody who's just scrolling CBC and YouTube and Facebook and all the normie regular, I mean, you're not a hardcore internet, you know, person like, you know, I've been in here for decades, right? grew up with the internet, but you're not, you're not going to see any of the stuff. So you're not going to have any of these clues or signals that anything's wrong. And you're just going to be, you know, totally, you know, knocked over sideways. Eventually when you come into contact with what's actually happening, it can be, it can be trauma. It's really traumatizing to a lot of people, I think. And I think it's given a lot of people a serious, I think the mental illness in this country is really, really high.

And I don't think this helped, you know, it's, for me too, especially like, from the military stuff. I never really felt that I had any kind of traumatic problems from, you know, violence or PTSD or anything like this. But there's a sense of, it's like the betrayal trauma of kind of feeling and discovering that like we've been used and lied to and abused. Like that, that's something that can really screw with your head. And I, you know, that's a tiny community, like Canadian military and your friends and family

and stuff. That's not very many, but when it came to COVID, this was everybody's family everywhere all the time, and people are coming to grips with, did they, did I get they screw me? Did I get screwed over? Did they lie to me? You know, like that's

when the people you trust to look after you are doing that to you, that's a hard one to swallow. It doesn't always go over well. Yeah, it shatters. It can it can make people go crazy. And it does. And it does. Yeah, look outside.

All of these protest people, like, this is their professional. This is what they do now. They're just outside in, you know, costumes every day. They've gone nuts screaming about this, that, and the other, they're on Twitter. They think they're in some kind of engaged in some kind of war. There are docks and people back and forth, and they're trying to get people killed.

Like, you've lost your mind. The stress, like, the stress of the last couple years is just literally broken a pile of people. And now they're, you know, you're feeling about, you, you've faced the wrath of the machine. I mean, you literally went to jail. The last time I had you on was January of 20, so,

you know, it's been a year, essentially, you know, in the last year, you've won some court cases. You know, when it's speaking of you specifically,

you know, you got told to get your bank account out of here. We don't agree with your views. Like, I'm sure I'm missing about 17 things, Jeremy, but what else have, has gone on that you can bring?

bring us all up to speed on on your set of things. Well, you mentioned the hate gate stuff earlier. That was pretty significant when that came out. That was in the summertime, I think, or fall, September, right? I'm going to ask you. I think it was September. What happened was directly after the convoy stuff, because we knew. You see the public safety minister on TV, like, it's an organized militia with a steel resolve.

And I'm like, what is he read? He's reading something. Like, what is that? Who wrote that? And there's people in Parliament in the House of Commons and in the Senate, you know, what's their name? And she said, oh, they're going to build an ethno state. They're going to do all that. Like, what is she reading?

What is that? Who wrote that? Where is this coming from? So let's FOIPP some things. And let's find out. So some of the guys put some packages together to request freedom of information protection and privacy act to we want all the things that say anything with Diagelon on it, anything with my name on it that involves the RCMP or CIS or anything. Like, let's just give me the whole thing.

and they're like, oh, it's going to take a long time. It's a lot of paper. That's fine. What's going to cost you more money? That's fine. We're going to have to extend it. That's fine. They kept coming.

It's supposed to be 60 days or something. It ended up being more like six months. But we did get it. And it was a lot of a lot of RCMP emails and memos and briefing packages. And it all said exactly pretty much what we expected it to. Anti-Hate said a bunch of craziness. They spent an insane amount of money investigating this and sending agents all over the place and looking into this.

They turned over everything. leaf and rock and rug and looked behind every picture and looked for every false wall they could find and then went yeah there's just nothing to this um what are you gonna do and that was up that was until we're waiting on the next dump which should be coming soon but we have everything up until like the spring of 2022 um so that was uh now it was i've been saying this all along and we've been maintaining this was this is what's really happening all along and they say sure oh sure we're to believe you or the RCMP, CBC, CIS, you know, they're saying all this. And it's just, yeah, I was right and they're all lying.

And like, people like, that's crazy. No, that's what happened. Here's proof. Here's their own emails. Here's their own words. Here's their own detective inspectors. Here's their own departments. Here's your own CIS agents.

Here's your own people being, ah, we can't, we can't even define it as a group. We can't even say diagonal is any, is even any, we don't even know what to say this is. This is nothing. It's a podcast fan club. That's as far as it goes. It's a time traveling cocaine snortens. go yeah yeah he's just i mean it's a it's a fun gimmick mascot but you know they they they turned it into something that it wasn't and um anyway there was proof of that and then within

days within a day or two bernie farber the chairman of the canadian anti-hate network resigned to spend time with family um right after that the nightmare didn't stop there then of course the october seven thing happened with the Israelis and they'd spend all this time being like islamophobic you guys are islamophobic and blah da da da this happens they have nothing how can you now you can't criticize anything. You can't target the Palestinians. Half the people you've been playing to all this time are the minority supporting flag waving refugees welcome types. Don't be an Islamophob, dude. So they're just shredded.

That's been fun. I'm currently engaged in a civil litigation against Ezra Levant for smearing me. He called me a government agent. He's seen proof, you see. He's seen secret court documents, hundreds of pages of secret court documents that prove that I was directly and indirectly involved in the whole Cootts situation and arranging all of this and it's very damning and all you're going to see and all that. I'm like, you're making that up. None of that's true. So I'm suing him. And now the Coots thing has happened. We got the Lysak is out now.

He got a lawyer that we were able to fundraise and pay for. And again, no criminal finding of any conspiracy, nothing like that. that. There's just, it's in the wind. It never, it was never real. So it's been a year basically of just steady kind of every few months. There's been another bomb drop where, oh, look, we were right again. We were telling the truth again. So I've got two cases left. My girlfriend and I are still, you know, in pretrial motions for an arrest and charges from 2022 in March at a protest. That's been fun and while. That's an open court. People are coming in. Lots of people come to witness that, seeing police officers say, well, yeah, we're arresting people to make examples of them.

So they'd stop protesting. Like, just proud of it, you know, openly, right? And you can hear people audibly gasp in the courtroom. Like, I can't believe you're saying these things. And why did you do this? Oh, well, the Premier told us to, essentially. Oh, so the Premier is just having people arrested now. Yeah, that's interesting.

So maybe a lawsuit there. You know, we'll see how this rest of this case plays out, but it's pretty shocking to see some of this testimony and things that are coming out of this. And the rest of the cases are dead in the water. They're either been withdrawn or stayed or about to be. And I'm looking forward to having this wrapped up. It's been two plus years of these legal battles everywhere. I'm getting hauled across the country and ankle and belly chains.

And people are trying to stab you. And they're calling you a white supremacists in jail and send all these native gang members after you. For, again, lies. And just because you're on the wrong side of the political football field and all the weight is on the other side. And they are able to, you know, treat. you special like we've seen like if i if i had been david zegarack maybe i would have gotten a medal instead but because i'm on this side uh you know you get treated this way just recently had a cryptocurrency exchange just banned me for no reason i wanted it's in ottawa canadian bitcoins i think

was named the company and they're like yeah security reasons i was like what security reasons are those like oh policy what policy would that be and just no answer so you know that comes with the territory it was like i'll say obviously know who i am and they just don't want to do serve me or you know so they're just going to come up with some reason so maybe maybe i'll go after them too i don't know it's it's i've got an abusive process motion that's fine working its way through the courts in quebec accusing yeah malicious prosecution essentially i'm going for there against the crown prosecutors probably going to be a civil uh case against them there same thing happening in nova scotia as well it's going to be years you know probably more of this of this crap but

you know um you can't let them get away with it and uh i had people donate a fair amount of money to help me, you know, fight these. So that's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing with it. That's what it's for. So, you know, why not? It is annoying to have to constantly, you know, I'm sitting here. A lot of mornings just sitting here for hours listening to the lawyers argue with each other.

You got to be present and, you know, sit there. But, you know, it's, they started it. So it's shoes on the other foot now. When you mentioned gang members roughing you up in prison, is that just like a passing remark? or like were there tough days while you were locked up? I had two attacks, like straight off, like five or more guys just attacked me. One of them, they were trying to fix it to stab me up in one of the ranges,

and I managed to kind of escape that one. Another one, I had gotten kind of a fight with a few of these guys, and then the COs quickly, so my benefit, got in there and intervened and broke it, got me out of there because it's, they don't, nobody in those places will fight one-on-one. It's like seven-on-one. They're going to get hurt. There's just no way around it.

But yeah, every day since I got there, for at least the first two weeks, in the local news, in the newspaper, because you get the local CTV news, global news, local to Saskatoon. I was in the Saskatoon Correctional Center. So that local news is on in the jail. There's very little watch, and that's on every day. And there's my face, you know, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, terrorist, rapist, woman beating, you know, all the shit, all the things they were saying. And then if that doesn't get it, then there's the newspaper going around with my face and, you know, explaining, oh, and he's in this jail and the Saskatoon jail. There's not much to do in jail.

And when your jail's 98, 99% indigenous gang members and people with, you know, hundreds of convictions and stuff, like it's something to do, isn't it? It's a fun time. So that's, you know, I feel like that was done intentionally or at least tried to, you know, to their credit. there was people in the jail, actually, that pulled me aside at one point that work for like some kind of secret security. Like they're not supposed to know that they're there, I guess. Like they're like civilian employees, but they're retired from other sectors. And they're like, they're like intelligence and security. And like, because they keep like, if there's gangs going to assassinate each other, there's going to be riots or whatever, like they're there to try to keep tabs and think, I think, I assume they're listening to phone calls and they're, you know, doing this kind of stuff.

And they're like, we're going to keep an eye on it for you. So you don't get murdered. but they're like if anything happens you know uh let us let us know or something like that so it was it like thankfully you know at least had that like there's a kind of a lifeline to if it got real crazy but well it's it's easy to i don't think there was a yeah i don't think it was a formal like assassination attempt it was more just you know you've got a bunch of 20 year old something guys with no they pour gasoline on the fire yeah and they're bored and they're like fucking fuck this guy let's get them you know so i don't again can i swear here i don't mean to yeah absolutely

i mean let's get them and and that's happened a couple times. So I was just lucky that I was able to, you know, manage these situations, I'll say. Yeah. Without getting stabbed, but close call. You know, all jokes aside, when you're, when you're talking about that, it's like you'd have to go somewhere else in your mind to, to prepare for that, I assume, right? I mean, because you're not just laying in your bunk going, well, I'm just going to read a book and sit here and be bored for 24 hours. That is, that isn't what like yeah you got to pay attention and be careful because um it was kind of like being it was kind of like being in the army again it's very it's similar to it'll in some ways like you're in a

very militant regimented schedule you go to bed you get up when they tell you to you have everybody showers in the open there's no doors on the toilet stalls or anything there's like time to eat time to sleep now you're going here now you're going there it's all very it's like being a POW um so a lot of that was kind of familiar in a lot of ways it's a bunch it's all men It's all, it's this kind of like macho alpha hierarchy of, you know, shit testing and guys are leaning on other, to see, see if they can take liberties on who and who they can push around and who. So there's some of that. It's, there's some, it wasn't that foreign to me. So it was, yeah, it's, and it's not a good time, but it wasn't as shocking as it would be if I was say, like, I work at a, I'm a bank teller and I get a DUI and thrown in a place like that.

I would not want to be, I wouldn't want to be that guy. They put me in the, they put me in the gang range right away. Because you get in and they clear you in and they take pictures of you and they're like, you got any tattoos? Like, who are you with? I'm like, who am I with? Yeah, who are you with? With IP2? Are you with like Indian posse and all these guys? Terror Street? Like, I don't know what any of this is. They're all gangs in Saskatoon. I'm like, oh, well, we'll put you on like a civilian range for just people that are, you know, not involved in the criminal underworld, really. You're just here for me. And I was like, okay, cool. And they put me in here and all these guys, they're tattooing each other's faces right away. the place is a jungle and they're all like there's guys in there for murders and just crazy stuff

and you know the first guy talked to one of the only ones I kind of made friends with there he had a one percenter tattoo on his neck like the diamond like a lot of the motorcycle club guys get that so I assume he's probably

a Hell's Angels guy or something he's one of the only there's like four or five white guys in the whole jail including me and I was talking to him and he's like yeah this is the he's like what are you doing here this is like the gang range

this is the bad guy range Like we're all hard gang members of murderers and shit. I'm like, of course, this is where they put me. Very cute, very nice. I don't know why it went that way. But they're actually, a lot of those guys, I was in and on that range a couple times. They were good to get along with. They were pretty funny.

And the one guy I did make friends with there, you know, he was like, yeah, we'll go out and lift weights one day. After two or three days, I was there. And it was bad weather. Then the weather was good. Did I tell you this last time? I don't know. But we went out and he was like, we're going to use the bench press. And it was like, this is like October, late September in Saskatchewanuan.

pulls his sweater and his shirt off, and he's covered in swastika tattoos and white-powered tattoos and everything. I was like, of course you are. Of course, of course you are, you know. When I was leaving, I was getting ready to leave, he was like, I would get a, I'd want to get a picture with you, but it'd be bad for my reputation. This guy said to me, but, you know, it was, yeah, it was a wild, it was a crazy experience, but I wouldn't want to, if that's not something you're, you know, ready for it, it could be pretty traumatized. I think. There was a few guys in there that got, uh, didn't, didn't go well. Uh, they didn't have a good time. They got, you know, beat up pretty good. And, um, yeah, it's, it's an unpleasant place for sure. Ezra Levant. You, you, you mentioned you're suing him. And I've been watching this, you know, one of the,

I don't know, where I sit and, uh, I don't know if I'm doing it right, Jeremy, I have no idea. I have a zero clue. But I see all this infighting. I see all these. I'm like, what the fuck is going on with all these people? I'm just like, you know, young family married.

I got, I stare at all this and I know different people from different things and I want to bring you all. I want nothing more than bring you on and have you guys talk it out, which is probably impossible, right? So like if Azra listens this, like wouldn't that be fun?

Oh, I think that'd be fun. Um, but, but it just seems so strange. You got rebel news going around the world. They're like literally reporting on the front lines. everything and I go all the way back to when they were going to run a story about you close to the Freedom Convoy and then they dropped it and then they wouldn't talk about it at all

and I'm like well that's kind of odd then they kind of half reported on Coots 4 then they stopped reporting on Coots 4 then they wouldn't touch it but then when they got out they they came out saying that they had helped fundraise for it and I'm like well this is this is kind of strange I don't know like I just to me I'm like I don't fully understand this and You're not the first person to talk ill of Rebel News and probably not the last, but I've also dealt with a bunch of the Rebel News staff. And I think they're, they seem like they're wonderful people.

I don't know. I have never dealt with Ezra Levant. I want to be clear. I've seen him, I've met him maybe twice. But other than that, to me, I'm just like,

I don't get this from Rebel News standpoint. Why would they do this? Because he, I've read his tweets about, yeah, I've read the Hunter documents. Jeremy McKenzie is not who he says. essentially.

Yeah. Did you freeze? No, I didn't freeze. Oh, I just very, very good. I thought we had a connection problem again. No, I think so what's going on here is, as I said earlier, I've been very outspoken against Israel for a long time. So you think it's his heritage? Yes.

So that's where his allegiance really is. I think that's what, at the end of the day, that's who he's, that's who he goes home to. You can only have, I mean, if you have to choose between Israel, in Canada, which one is it? Right? It should be an easy answer. It should always be, I'll always, you know, this is my home. This is my friends and family and community.

I would never, you know, choose the interests of some, you know, a foreign state over this one, but he will. His allegiance to that is why we are at odds. I've been, because he used footage for my protest over Omar Carter years ago at Delhousie University. He was there giving a speech. They used footage. He wouldn't mention my name, wouldn't say, because even back then, he was aware. or somehow or something. And since, I've been around in the news a couple of times that they've danced around.

And Sheila Gunn-Reed did a nice hit piece on me where she weaponized the stigma against Canadian veterans having PTSD and being alcoholics and all these kinds of disgusting things that she said. So, yeah, they're just a very hostile group there. Probably, you know, that's really what it comes down to is based on a lot of that. It's fine. It's all, you know, high fives and chocolate cakes when everybody's getting along. but there's certain things that if you don't tow the line with, Ezra's, no, there's no room for you. And he's been sued numerous times successfully by people for slander. He lies all the time.

This is his business model. He farms outrage from the right wing, much in the same way that the anti-hate does, farms outrage from the left wing. They're kind of two signs to the same thing. He'll find things that gets conservative Canadians, particularly really upset and angry and fired up. And then he's got his handout for donations for whatever. cause it is.ca.com, trucker lawyer.ca, Hawaiifires.com, whatever, whatever it is that day. And all this money goes into a slush fund. And very nicely on the bottom in fine print, if you know, you look into it, it'll say, well, I can, you know, use this for whatever.

This doesn't necessarily mean every one of these dollars is going to go to this cause. It could go to any, but that's at the bottom in fine print. Very, very nice lawyer move there. But that's, a lot of people have a problem with that. Millions of dollars was probably sent into this trucker lawyer fund and all through just the convoy and the coots thing and people with the understanding that don't have a lot of money like people the cost of living in this country's insane we've never I don't think it's ever been worse so to be taking soliciting donations from the public for something and then not use it for that thing is incredibly underhanded and and predatory and it's routine and he's been successfully again sued numerous times for for slander for just

making stuff up a book he said to pay 80,000 dollar judgments 60,000 dollar judgments. This is who he is. He's a liar. In court, he says, I'm not a journalist. And out of court, he says, I'm a journalist, give me money so I can do journalism. So I'm, uh, you know, he wanted to hand, he, he used the state's narrative on Coots and said, you know, backed up, oh yeah, no, conspiracy, daiglon that could be, oh yeah, it's all there. I've seen the documents. It's all real. It's not real. But his personal vendetta, or his personal feelings about me, because I don't, I don't believe in the chosen people narrative and that the Israelis should just reign supreme over the earth and just massacre children at will and do whatever they want and they can own him.

I don't believe any of that. I think that's all crazy nonsense. I don't know those people are are garbage. So, you know, he's, he's always going to be against me no matter what, no matter what happens. Because that's, again, at the end of the day, who he plays for. That's why I think people have a hard time going, why is he acting like that? We understand that that's, that's really who he's, who is allegiances to, not Canada, then it, you know, makes more sense. Hmm.

That's, uh, well, you know, from, from a listener's standpoint of Try getting it. One of the things that I've, if I, I don't know, Jeremy may want to jump to it. The one thing I admire about Ezra Levan is I got to watch him interview, ask questions at an Alberta Prosperity Project debate back when Daniel Smith was

running for the UCP. And I was, he taught, I told him this, which I guess I should, probably shouldn't have. This is probably why he's never come on the podcast. But he asked me if I,

if he talked too much. say, yeah, you talk too much. And he was like, and I was like, there were great questions. And the thing I admired about him was he asked like, you know, if there's one thing I could take from him, was never be nervous to ask the question. If it's about COVID, if it's about the coupes for,

if it's about whatever, ask question because everybody wants to hear said question be asked. Unless it's about Israel, right? But in fairness, at that time, now we're talking two years ago, the things that were the hot button issues about that time, was anything COVID was transgender, right, kids in school learning about it, those two in particular really popped to mind.

And I remember thinking, wow, he's going to ask it. He's going into the paint. But everybody, I don't know, maybe, maybe I'm wrong in this. Is there, is there something Jeremy's not willing to talk about, right? Is there something Sean's not willing to talk about? I like to think that I'm, I'm like, I'm uncomfortable in lots of conversations. That happens to me often. I'm still working on this.

but I've been trying to open it up so that people can talk and we can hear, you know, because it helps format my thoughts and arguments and, oh, that's, hmm, right? But Israel Palestine, I've already admitted to it. Like, to me, I don't know anything. Like, I just, I see the bombs going off everywhere. Oh, it's mental. I mean, yeah, they're despicable.

Like, everything that the Germans have ever been accused of doing, Israel's actually doing right now. Like today, not 80 years ago. It's happening right now today. And people are like, oh, well, there's a Super Bowl. But I mean, we shouldn't have anything to do with this. This is none of our business.

This is the other side of the planet. Why is this happening? Why are there protests about this? What do you want Canada to do about this? You know what I mean? Like, why are we getting dragging it? We have enough of our own problems, and some of them I mentioned already. How many people are killed?

We have a government-funded suicide program? Correct. Fentanol. We're giving fentanyl to kids? You know, like, okay, these are real problems. I don't care about what's going on over there. And these people are in the streets, oh we want this and that you can leave you get out then go over there and deal with it what

you problems over there they're not here they're not in edmonton what do you want us to do about it anyway um so yeah it's it's it's yeah the people are loyal to the Israelis and they won't uh they won't budge on that ever it's like they're they're scared of them is what it really comes down to they don't want to be called racist they want to be called names they don't want to have anybody attack them and come after them so they just tow the line even when they know they know they you know there's things that you know they're hypocritical but when you mentioned earlier like if there's anything you wouldn't talk about i don't think so like i've already had to swallow a grenade like a really sour one and that was when you know when i when i was a kid i i only wanted to be in the military

since i was probably 10 years old 10 or 12 that's all i ever wanted to do that's all i based my entire you know young adulthood around and then when i finally got in there i was you know it it wasn't like a work to me it wasn't a job it was like an adventure that i'd wanted to go on my entire line. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was all I cared about. And, uh, I had to get to a point where, you know, we're doing presence patrols and security, you know, I'm holding security positions with the machine gun, you know, in enemy territory to protect a, you know, natural gas pipeline survey team from the United States. What, what does that have to do with anything? What is going on? Why are we protecting poppy fields at night? Like, like, oh, well, this guy makes money from it and this,

you know, keeps these farmers happy. That way they won't turn to the Taliban. What? Like, a lot of it didn't make any sense. And without, you know, going into hours and hours of how I eventually came these conclusions. But, yeah, our militaries, all these wars are, you know, just being fought at the behest of other people, for other people's interests, not ours. There's nothing to do with what's good for Canada or America or England or any of us. This is all being done for other people.

And I had to essentially stand there in the, in the, I remember this. I was like shaving to go to work. And I'm just looking in the mirror. And my PMQ and Petalawa was a section commander at three RCR. and I'm like, I'm an imperial stormtrooper is what I am. That's what I'm doing. I'm just going around, fighting whoever for the empire so these people can keep. That's not okay.

I'm not okay with this. I had to leave. I don't think I lasted another year in the military after that. I had to like just, I couldn't keep doing this job that I'd grown up believing. And like, your friends are coming home in boxes. There's people killing themselves. Like, I don't know how many funerals I've been to and done, you know, honor guard for and all of these things.

And, you know, you're trying to make the square peg fit in the round hole where it's like, oh, because they hate us for our freedoms, like 9-11, you know, but not. And I don't, none of that carries any water because everyone knows it's, it's an empty story. It goes nowhere. It doesn't mean anything. There's no real. This wasn't like the gates of Thermopy and the Persians are going to, if they get through us, they're going to kill everyone, the women and children, like, we have to stop these people

and whatever. It wasn't that. It was this strange. They sent us off to an alien planet to fight brown people that, you know, and there was, eventually guys are going to need, the two plus two has to equal four in your head at some stage. And it just can't. And then when you rearrange the pieces to where it actually makes sense. So something I've been thinking about lately is how people are kind of building a worldview based on feelings, especially in Canada.

Feelings is the foundation for how everything works. Instead of building your worldview, like the box, let's say, out of facts and logic like this is what is really. and my feelings are going to have to go in that. They're going to have to fit inside this box because this is reality. This is what it is. And however you feel about it, that doesn't change anything, it is what it is. But instead, what the other people are doing is building it out of feelings, this tube of ever shape-shifting, malleable here today, gone tomorrow feelings,

and then bending facts and reality around that to make it fit and make it work, at which it can't. It's just a mess. And this is the world. That's the result. We've got tampons in the men's washrooms because of this. Like, everything's based on feelings. It doesn't make any sense.

We got the NDP proposing no advertising bill for fossil fuels. And if you say something factually correct, you could still face jail time. You're going, how is that even possible, except for it's Canada 2024? So the hard part was, okay, I'd just wipe everything that I thought I knew what was going on. Just clear the desk. It's all gone. And then just take what is definitely, like that's true. Like, that's a fact, whether I like it or not, it is what it is.

and let's just start putting it together and let's build the box and when it's done i couldn't i couldn't stay in the military i felt horrible about it i'm like this is i can't you know and they want they wanted at that time you're like go to poland i was supposed to go to ukraine to train you know ukrainians and do this i'm like i'm not doing that i just had a i have a young son at home i just had a my daughter was just born but what if i get killed or what like for what i've seen i watched one guy who killed himself the last conversation i had with him was they had him mowing lawns on the base Gagetown, keep them busy. Give him something easy to do, something low speed, so he wouldn't, you know, hurt himself. It was very condescending. Like, this guy was like not doing okay. And they were like, oh, well, we'll give you something easy to do, whatever.

And I'm sitting there talking to him, like, how are you doing, man? He's like, he said, last year I was a section commander in charge of $20 million in equipment, $25 million bushmaster cannons, machine, machine guns, grenade launchers, smoke grenades, night vision, laser guided, you know, satellite radios, 10 guys under my command. I'm, you know, second in command of the platoon. But now I'm a long. mower man you know and then he went and shot himself not long after that and at his funeral there was his two young daughters were like scream inconsolable at the casket daddy no just screaming and i'm like i could do that to my children and it would be because at the end of the day because it's just what i did for money because i don't believe in this anymore i don't believe in that this is lie these are lies why i should go get melted by russian artillery why So my children can have that experience. Why?

Well, it's what I was doing for money. Get a different job, dude. You're not making that much. I made, what was I making, $75,000 a year as essentially like an infantry sergeant, 80,000? Like, is that, you know, if you're going to ask people to give their lives away, it needs to be for something that is so powerful and profound that even though it's going to destroy my family and my children are good, but it has to be done because it's this or it's worse, you know, or the Persians are going to get through and they're going to kill everybody.

And they're going to kill my children and all this time and stuff, right? Those are the choices that we make. But, you know, I couldn't think of something like that. And what would do to my family and my friend? You know? Forget me. Like, if you get killed, you don't know. You're dead.

You're not going to know. It's just going to be over. But I saw the wreckage of what it leaves behind. Another friend of mine killed by friendly fire, just a dumb accident. Just an idiot knucklehead shot him fucking around. And it destroyed his family. You know, his father was never the same. and they're on like all kinds of prescription pills now you know for why and we never got an

apology when we pulled out of Afghanistan and ended that what did anybody say sorry about that we all had to sit and watch this the helicopters and people fall in their deaths off of the planes and oh yeah it's all just over now the Taliban comes back in takes over like just so so what was that for boys why are all the guys dead why are all these families have to live with this ruinous hole in their life And it doesn't matter. Slava Ukraine now. Now we're doing this. So, no, I had to swallow all of that and re-array, like, nuke my entire worldview, blown to smithereens, and rebuild it like toothpicks. Wanted tiny little pieces to try and figure out what the hell is going on.

And then when I got an anchor picture of it, that makes sense. And since then, I haven't had to alter it much. It's been a pretty good roadmap since. And it's been painting a pretty clear picture because, you know, now two plus two does equal. for. So, you know, when people say like, well, it's easy for you to say, if you ever had to, oh, yes. Oh, I've had to look in the mirror to, you know, and look deep. So I don't have any sympathy for people that are like, you know, not willing to talk about what the Israelis are really doing because it's sensitive and they don't want it. That's nice, you know, but I've, I've done that, you know, man up or shut up, you know, is essentially my response to those people because

we're paying for this. The world is paying for this. Innocent people. People are paying for this and they're paying for it because people don't have the guts to talk about what's real. And again, we're going to bend everything. The feelings are what's important. We must preserve the core feelings worldview, the tube of feelings or whatever it was. And we'll just bend and twist and contort the facts around that like wallpaper. We'll just find a way to make it cover up everything and where it doesn't fit. We'll just paste something over the gaps.

And, you know, so everything's upside down. So we need to go back to a facts-based, you know, logic-based. you know, worldview. And like you said, we need to have to, we need to be able to talk to each other about these things in a serious and earnest way in a thoughtful way so that we can figure out what to do about them. And instead, everyone would just rather fight it, fight with each other and point fingers and make things up and lie and slander people. So I've been trying to just tell the truth. I've been, I've not been, I don't have an agenda. I'm not trying to make anything happen or get somebody elected or steal money from somebody or get a program

pushed through. I'm just like, this is what I've known to be true for my life experience. It is profoundly impacted me in a negative way because I didn't know certain things about how the world worked and it nearly killed me and it did kill a lot of my friends. So I feel a duty as a man and as a human being and as a Canadian to warn people about what's happening. And because I do that, other people who are impacted negatively because of that posture decide to attack me. You know, I didn't, I didn't search out rebel news and attack him. I was minding my own business trying to help these guys in jail, trying to tell people what's going on in the country, trying to alert people.

And he decided because he's personally inconvenienced by whatever it is I'm saying and doing to lie about me and say he's seen hundreds of pages of proof of something that doesn't exist. Right? So I'm not the one that's in the wrong here. Ezra is. Again, he likes to slander people. That's what he does. So anyway, sorry, that's kind of a long-winded, rambling answer.

But, yeah, as far as people, it's a good point. Like, is there anything you're not willing to look at and examine, you know? I've already had to accept that I was basically an idiot zombie drone for the empire, which is not a good feeling. But you know, you can't go forward if you don't, you know, pick your eyes up from the ground. You're just going to stand there at one spot and look at your feet your whole life. No, I just, I think you, there's some things you said there that, you know, I try and listen to what everybody's said. I wish I could explain the way my brain works, but I'm like trying to, and then you say something,

and my brain goes, that's a great thought. So I'm going to have to go back and think on it, you know. But there's very few of us that, you know, to get to the point of conviction of like where we're willing to go, you know, you talk about the Persians coming through. Like, am I going to give up everything for what?

Yeah. To let my kids die for what? Now, if the Persians are literally coming through the gates, we have no choice because if we don't go stand and to me, that's freedom convoy. The way you just explain that, all I can think of it, that's why everybody went to Ottawa.

Because they're like, we don't stand up to this. Like, Yeah, they're talking about putting us in camps. Camps on and on and on it went. The passports, yeah, it was madness. And so you go, when you, when you play out what you just said there, we, we experienced it here in Canada. It was, it was the freedom combo. That's exactly what it was.

That's why when people met and saw each other all coming to stand at the gates, you're like, well, wow, this is interesting. You know, the, the, um, yeah. that's, that's something for everybody to think on. Because, um, I don't, that's a very tough question to answer what you're willing to go stand at the gates for. Yeah. And then to, you know, um, yeah, no, I just, no, I'm going to go back to that that right there. That's, that's a question. And, and probably if there's something you're unwilling to talk about, right, that you, that's a blind spot.

Even, even if you're, you're confident, you're right, but you're unwilling to talk. about it. That's a blind spot. Yeah. I think you have to earn it through humility. Like you can only get wisdom through suffering and humility. You have to be willing to get hurt and take a beating and be humble about it to learn anything. That's kind of the opposite of what we have here, these people. They're always right, no matter what happens. You never accept responsibility for anything. And they're all in charge. What a wonderful mess that is. You know? But I struggled with that for years. In the military, the last few years I was in there,

I really had a hard time. It was more fun. When you're 20 years old, it's a big adventure. You don't really believe anything's ever going to happen to you, until you start seeing people blow up and explode in front of you. It was pretty terrifying, pretty traumatizing. But it was like, we'll do it, but I'm not willing to give my life a for it. If there was a way to know, like, there's a guy right there at the plane with a, you know, a clipboard.

for somehow, they're using Elon Musk's new AI. It'll tell you what's going to happen to you. You're going to get shot in the face. You're going to die. You're going to be blown in half. You're going to be fine. You're going to be fine. You're going to get on fire.

You're going to be fine. Like, you're going to be told what's going to happen. Are you still going to get on the plane? If the answer is no, it's not worth it. If you're like, I'm still going because I have, then that's what has to happen. Because that's something you do believe in. If you're willing to get hurt and suffer and maybe even die for it, because the alternative is worse,

then it's just what you have to do. But we have, you know, I think you'll find a lot, when people come up again, that's the difference between our side and there is like, do you think any of these freaks that are boot-looking for the government and they get up against it? Like, are you going to throw it all away?

For, no, we need to get boosters. No, you're not. You oppressed these people and did all this to them for money, for influence, for cloud, because it's what, you know, you thought the machine wanted you to do. But if it was the other way around, you couldn't be us for 10 minutes.

You couldn't do this. You couldn't do it. Not only is there no rewards over here, there's pretty much just punishment. Pretty much just punishment. And they have the audacity to be like, oh, look at these freaks, you lose it. Like you guys, our detractors couldn't stand in our shoes for 10 minutes.

They enjoy the full support of the state, academia, the media, television, radio, entertainment, everything is on their side, big corporations, big banks. Everything is on their side. And they think they're the resistance. It's, you know, it's funny. Cute. Yeah, it is. It is cute.

Well, I told Jeremy when we started, I'm like, how long are we going for? We going for an hour or not? Well, you could go for as long as you want. Yeah, yeah. What we're going to do is we're going to slide over to Substack. I do a second little part, 10 minutes. Okay.

We'll get some final thoughts from Jeremy there. And so we're going to take a brief pause if you want to hop on over folks to Substack. Come on and join us there.