Shaun Newman Podcast - #592 - Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

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All right, you all know I'm sitting somewhere else by now. I am sitting in lovely Jamaica. So I'm recording this before I left. So I would love to sit here and chat about the weather and act like I know exactly what's going on back home. but somewhere I'm sitting, hopefully, enjoying time alone with the wife in Jamaica. Anyways, it's fun to record these before I go. I'm not going to lie.

You know, if you listen to this two weeks after, you're like, oh, I guess I want to have a biggie. I didn't know. I didn't know. You know, here's something, though, that is pertinent to this week. When it comes to your RRSP, the deadline for doing something with that is February 29th. So this Thursday, and did you know you can hold physical gold and silver in your registered accounts? And you go, why would I want to do that, Sean? Why would I?

It's like, well, maybe make a call. Shoot an email. Find out what could be appetizing about that. I'm talking about silver gold bowl, of course. Down the show notes, there's an email address. There is a phone number. You can talk to Graham. We got our own awesome rep, Graham.

And you can find out more. But the deadline is this Thursday, apologies, February 29th. Once the contribution is made, you can vest it into physical precious metals at any time. Just call an email Graham for details because you're probably going, what the heck am I talking about? I'm telling you. Let's take a look at Silver Gold Bull. Take a look down there and reach out.

You got until Thursday to reach out, find out more about that. That's coming up real fast. You know what's coming up real fast? Well, I should say Caleb Taves, Renegade Acres. They do a community spotlight. And what's coming up real fast is April 27th. You go, Sean, what's April 27th? Oh, SMP returns.

Yes, the Cornerstone Forum is going to be here in Lloyd Minster, and you may ask yourself, Cornerstone? What the heck does that mean? Well, Cornerstone is traditionally the first stone laid for a structure with all the stones laid in reference. The conference

is going to try and aim, well, position you to aiming your first stone, right? Like trying to navigate the world. Right? There's just problems coming down the pipe that we're all staring at and we're going like how do we navigate this you know as tom loongo one of the speakers is going to be there once upon a time told me you know the giants are at war all we got to do is try and navigate their feet so don't get stepped on and

uh i agree with them i think there's a lot of things coming down the pipe that you can see and navigate around and try and talk about that's what we're going to try and do here we got uh different speakers martin armstrong's going to be virtually coming in so he's going to do an interview specifically for the conference got Alex craneer tom Longo, Curtis Stone, Chuck Prodnick, Chris Sims. Yeah, it's going to be a fun day. Down in the show notes, you can buy tickets. If you're wondering about the price, well, we got two meals, we got a full day.

Speakers coming in from all over the countryside. And I tell you what, it's going to be a fun, fun day. I hope to see you there. And, yeah, you can grab your tickets there. The Deer in Steer Butchery. Well, they got a new butcheress. That's right. Butcheress.

and her name is Amber. She's born and raised in the small town of Wadena, Saskatchewan. I almost mispronounced that wrong. Wadena is Saskatchewan, okay? And she tells me it's got the best Boston creams in Saskatchewan. I don't know. Has anybody been to Wadena? Can they confirm this?

Can they bring a sample? Well, she's been cutting meat since she was 16. She took her retail meat cutting at Nate, went an apprentice that the Real Deal meets in Eminton, and then went on to work out in Ontario at the St. Lawrence Market, which is one of the biggest fresh produce markets oh man can I spit this out

is one of the biggest fresh produced meat and seafood vendors in Canada and she's ready to get in and step full force into butchering at the deer and steer so if you want to go meet her you want to just call and hey

say hey welcome trying to find a little bit more about you give her a call 780 870 8700 or toss him an animal see what she can do put her to the test and yeah welcome aboard Amber out at the deer

and steer butchery. Erickson Agro Incorporated out of Irma, Alberta. That's Kent and Tasha Erickson, family farm, raising forward kids and growing food for their community and this great country. Well, I tell you what, I hope to see the Erickson's at the old SMP presents

at the end of April. I hope to see a lot of you there, to be honest. Shall we get onto that tail of the tape? I think we shall. He's a retired sergeant of the Canadian military, who is also a member of the Princess Patricia's Light infantry and served in four tours overseas. I'm talking about Chuck Pradnick. So buckle up.

Here we go. Welcome to the Toronto podcast. Today I'm joined by Chuck Proudnick. You know what was supposed to be a military roundtable? And, you know, funny thing about you military, guys, it seems like all the structure in the world. They're flaky. Oh, my goodness.

They're flaky. No, it's not the end of the world. I get Chuck Pradnick in studio, folks. I think I'm pretty happy about that. I'm in Jamie's chair, too, so pretty good. Pretty good deal for me. I'll try and throw some Jamieisms in there along the way. Now, normally, normally I would wait to talk about gold, silver, silver, gold pole.

But, you know, you just walked into me talking to Graham. You know, I talk about this. I'm not trying to do a sales pitch here. Maybe I'm, I don't know. But first, thanks for making the trip. You know, yeah, Chuck's slowly getting rich off the podcast, you know? Like, he's smiling. No wonder he makes the trip every time.

This will go in the old treasure chest at home. Well, I just gave him a one-ounce silver coin, courtesy of silver gold bull. We do it for people who come to the studio and, you know, making the trip all the way out to Lloyd Minster. But, you know, you walked in on me talking to Graham. It's the first time I talked to Graham. And, you know, it's down on the show notes, and I talk about it in the show, I talk about it in the preamble that, you know,

like if you want to, you know, support the podcast, make sure you reach out to Graham, mail, give him a call. But the big thing right now is it's our RRSP season. Yeah. And, you know, like the first time I heard that you could have gold or silver and RRSPs, I'm like, say it again? Mm-hmm.

What do you mean? And, you know, you just listened to him. Yeah. You know, he joked with me. If I learned anything from the conversation, I'm like an onion, just give him a call and he'll peel back the onion for you and put you in direction. The big thing is, is, you know, this airs on Wednesday. Thursday is the deadline.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's not as rocket science is what I'm going to confuse it as. But if you reach out and you want to do something like that, the big thing is to have a Quest trade account. And I was saying like, oh, tons of people have Questrade account. But if you don't, that'd probably be the thing as you're listening to us, make sure you get a Quest trade account because that's what it hinges around. Now, did he also say, and I only walked in part way through your conversation, that if you

already have existing RISPs or tax savings, you can shift it over towards Golden. That's what I heard. That's what I heard too. Now, again, I'm like not just an onion. I'm half, you know, baked onion. So for my own experience, and you and I were talking with this before you turned on all the gizmos last year, I had a fairly substantial amount of RSP socked aside for many, many years. And I'm, they're just sitting there. And I, my own little bit of research into them, I was like, I'm still going to get penalized and taxed death when I am eligible to pull them at a reduced penalty when I'm 65.

And I'm thinking, I'm not doing that. I want this money to play with now. I have things I want right now. I have, you know, opportunities right now that this money could go towards. So I went into the bank and they said, well, you can pull half of it and we're going to penalize tax the hell out of it. And they did. And the rest of it, we're going to sock away into a lira type of lira format, which

I can then only pull a little amount over time with. And that's the government's way of saying, well, this is supposed to be a tax deferment and all this other stuff. And I understand. that, but I'm being taxed how many times on my own money. This is my money I put it away. If I'd known about being able to shift it towards gold or silver, I'd have done that with a good chunk of it because I'm a big fan of, I'm a big fan of physical silver and gold, but the, the investment side of it, it's there too, and it makes a lot of sense if you do your

research. Well, don't take your, I'm, all I do is I'm like, I'm sitting here and I'm going, I find the idea interesting. I don't know enough about it, folks. I'm going to be very honest. And I told Graham, I'm probably going to confuse people. And so what they need to do is they just need to reach out. Because then they can get more information.

They can start to understand it better, whether or not, you know, like tomorrow is the deadline. Thursday of the 29 is the deadline, short notice for this podcast when it comes out. But at the same token, it's like, it should be, it sounds very interesting. It sounds intriguing. It's an onion I didn't even know existed. So at least if people are asking the question and definitely, I'm not a guy you take any life advice from on anything, but it's a question you can definitely ask.

If you're a big fan of RSPs already and you think that this is something you want to look at, I'd definitely reach out to these guys and get some clarification for sure. Now, the other thing, you know, I don't know. How have things been going? Because, you know, like,

I got a lot of things going on right now that have, like, really come all crashing in at the same time in the best possible way. You know, the next thing, on the docket in my brain is SMP presents is coming back. That's exciting. Yeah. You know, I've been, I've been on and off again. I've been, I've been, I've been ruminating on this since last June.

Was that the last one you did was June, wasn't it? Yeah. That was the one I, no, that was the one we did in Emmington. You put on there. No, no, no, that was March. That was March that one. I did three in a row. I did, I did, uh, January.

I had rural urban divide. I had Vance Crow, Quick Dick, McDick, Stephen Barber in Lloyd Minster. Yeah. March, I was in Eminton, uh, Legacy Media, had Chris Sam, That was the one. Yeah. Uh, Kid Carson and Wayne Peters.

And then I did Loongo Criner in June. And then I've sat. And I have, you know, I've been getting texts. I won't blow smoke here, but, you know, like once a week, once every two weeks. Yeah. When's the next SMP presents? I'm like, I don't know. I hear it all the time from people that are in contact with me, like when's he doing another one?

I don't know. And finally, you know, like I, I just finally felt like I had a breakthrough. Yeah. And I don't know, Chuck. how this is going to go. I'm going to be very honest. You're coming to an experiment. Sean's experiment, another one.

And it's going to be a conference, though. It's going to be one full day. I was looking at doing multiple days, but I thought, let's start with one day. Let's see how this goes. Let's iron things out. Sean's the time cop on how time goes at his advance. This is going to stretch me to my limits.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, you know, you got Luongo, Craneer. you have Curtis Stone, the urban farmer who's off-grid now. You got Chris Sims, who I think everybody knows and loves, and you got Mr. Chuck Prodnick and Martin Armstrong coming in virtually doing a specific interview for the conference. That's going to be it. So that is April 27th down in the show notes. Once again, I feel like this entire thing's been an ad read at this point.

But I'm like, I'm really excited about a few different things that have just all come crashing in maybe at the same time. So why, what, what gave you the, I don't want to say bandwidth or the, but what prompted you for this one? Because I know we've talked about it offline a few times like wins the next one. Because I hear quite a bit from guys that are in contact with me like been to a few of his love them. Even if I haven't been able to go to them, everybody says they're great to go to. But you've been, have you been just overworked and underpaid here or what's going on? Like now, now it feels like you kind of got some breath in you again to do one. Is that what it was?

just getting reloaded or no um i felt when i first did the call like uh when i did my first one back in march 22 we hadn't met in person we haven't had a forum in so long i'm like we need to have a forum now i feel like forums are almost this or not even forum like a speaking event is kind of like a podcast they're everywhere you can go to a new speaking event every weekend and i went i want to move the needle i don't want to just be noise yeah and i and i I felt like I was getting to where it was just becoming entertainment or not what I wanted. And so I sat and argued with myself for almost eight months. I was just like...

Well, you don't want to be stale. Yeah, I get that. And I don't want to have you spend money just to come spend money. And I get it. It's building community and everything else. I just, you know, is there lots of topics I want to talk about? Yeah, I do it all every day on the podcast, lots. But I finally went, you know, and I've said this.

example way too many times. I'll say it one more time. In 2020, my brothers and I argued about mortgage rates. It's the first time I got introduced to Martin Armstrong. I sat and listened to him and, you know, I didn't fully understand who he was. Maybe I still don't. But he said some things that really I'm like, he either knows a lot or this guy is blowing complete smoke. And he was talking in 2022, about 2032. Okay, I'm going 12 years. I remember back then. Back then is when I'm asked Julie Panessi, you know, how long does this go for? A couple months? And she stared at me like I was insane.

This is going to be decades. And I'm like, decades, what? Well, here we sit, you know, and I'm starting to get it. I'm starting to look at the future in a different lens. Yeah. And so I go back to the brothers and I arguing. And one of the things I wish I would have done with the podcast was talked about it. Because I think I could have, if nothing else, got more people thinking about a 10-year mortgage in Canada, specifically.

I say this all the time. The United States is way different than Canada when it comes to mortgages. But here, you know, there's a ton of people who are going to be caught flat-footed that never thought about it. And I've been thinking about it for way too long. Like, I'm sure I drove my wife nuts. But now we have a 10-year mortgage. And it doesn't mean I'm completely safe, but it does mean I've navigated part of the rough waters as I like to. You had stability, yeah.

Yeah. And if you have stability, stress goes down, not up. And as you go stress up, your ability to think and react, as you, you know, you know in the military. Sure, can you react under stress? Yeah, that's what military does. But when you have things pushed down, you just get to think clear. And so finally, it was just like a breakthrough moment.

I don't know when it happened. I just went, oh, I need to start talking about things that are coming and whether we can navigate. Because that's what I'm worried about. I'm worried, yeah, am I worried about like different things with COVID and everything else still and all these, you know, and the WHO. Sure, certainly. But I tell the wife all the time, Chuck, there's many a ways in which you can live in hell on earth. Not getting COVID right. Yeah, there are some things there.

But not getting mortgages right, you're starting to have pain go up that way. You look at inflation and all the different things. Yeah, not understanding what's coming down the pipe with supply chains and food. And I don't have all the answers. I'm exploring that too. And so this conference, this forum is like my first attempt at trying to bring in a group of speakers, identify some of the problems that we've seen here in Alberta specifically.

Like, geez, we've had brownouts, we've had a terrorist attack, we got inflation going through the roof, we got, you know, everything's gone up. What can we do about it? And like Daniel Smith said the other day, Otto was our adversary. I mean, I'm paraphrasing her, obviously, but she, I think she, delusional adversary she called, and she's not wrong. It does feel like they are.

are not on our side, especially Alberta specifically. I mean, Trudeau came here and called us fools, which nobody here should be surprised about we, at this point, but go back in time when he forgot to say Alberta on stage, on stage. He named off every province except for Alberta. That was intentional. That was intentional. We all know it was.

It was a dig. Everything he does is a big. At the time, I thought maybe he forgot. Well, he isn't smart, but he's, you don't forget this one specifically, you know. It does feel. And you talked about stress a second ago and absolutely you can think about the UN, the who, the, the, the, the war in here and the war over there and what the next disease X, I think they're calling it is coming down our, our way. Look, you can only control. You need to be aware of those things. And I, I like being aware of everything that I can be within reason. But don't let that stress you. You have to do like take your mortgage thing. For example, my last mortgage was seven years, which would have landed perfectly to. sell except for Trudeau's economics just sewered us. And when I had to re-up, I got hammered and like everybody out there that got hammered in the last couple years, you know what your

new interest rates are like. Seven years was as long as I could get at the time. Ten years would have been perfect because I'd just be landing on the other side of this, hopefully. But those are things you can control. Those will reduce your stress. I have friends right now on variables, mortgage rates and you want to see the roller coaster ride of a motion there on. Groceries one week and not the next because who it's not good. Well, what do you build like a marriage on stability? Stability. Communication.

Yeah. And little things can just slowly erode it. All the boring stuff that's your day to day. That's what you build a family on. We talked about, um, you know, the cornerstone of a country or a nation or a tribe. It's, it's not the farmer, the trucker, the soldier, the teacher, the this, the, that, it's the family. family is the building block of anything. And as soon as you erode that and you knock the stability

out of it from one way or another, whether it's financial, whether it's, uh, you know, you want to talk about destroying it with trans and all this other stuff, you just make this MO4, uh, this blob of a society that has no structure. And as soon as you knock that pillar out, you see what's happening to us. I was listening to, uh, uh, one of the Rogan ones on a dog walk. other day. I think it was Dr. Phil. Yeah, it was Dr. Phil of all people. And, uh, I try not to use him as a guide post for anything, but the man does have some points. And you, the scary thing about listening to any other podcast, like I listen to yours, obviously, but if you listen to any American one, Canada is being used daily as the canary in the coal mine. Like they brought up, they brought up,

that was it Bozano or whatever his name is, who said parents have no rights in Canada. You don't have rights to your kids. Well, how stupid is that? And maybe how accurate is it? Like, that's the flip side to it is what a ridiculously assinine thing to say. But he's probably not technically all that wrong when the, when it comes to what the government can do. We've seen, especially in BC, them pulling kids away from parents who didn't affirm whatever

fairy tale they were living in at that moment. That's scary. And it's happening. I would throw this to the listener. Maybe I'm wrong on this. And I can be, as I've been wrong on many a thing. When it comes to, uh, uh, governments pulling the kids away, am I wrong in saying it's usually single parents? I don't know.

It, I have seen that it has been that where them and I don't want to blame the moms here. No, no, no. I'm not blaming anyone. All I'm saying is. It does seem like the mom is kind of, um, munch housing by proxying their child along into some delusion. And the dad's like, wait, at least in BC, the couple that I've seen. That's been the case, although I've seen it where there's been an actual solid, you know, marriage and then the kid goes to school and I don't want to blame teachers because I know there's great teachers out there. I know there are. It's like cops. I'm, I have a hard time with cops these days and I have family and friends that are cops. I know that for the most part they're good people in a in a really slanted profession right now. But it seems like these teachers are hands, holding kids towards a delusion and it's and then they got pulled like the kid got pulled

away from his parents or their parents and it's happening far too often and when you were when it's recognizable enough that in other countries you have major media personalities talking about it like who can and and like dr. Phil on Rogan was like well don't think the can we're that far behind Canada like in fact we're probably ahead of them in some ways. We just have a better, better media, bigger media covering it up. What I, what I meant by, by the single families or divorce, isn't that any one parent, you know, like, I don't, all I mean is as soon as you allow government into your

marriage. Yeah. How do they do that? Divorce. Yeah. Now government is in your marital affairs. And I'm not saying they can't get into a married couple's affairs. They certainly can.

It's just tougher because you're a unified. force. There's no way to, you know, like you're unified. As soon as you lose that, now there's lack of communication. There's a gap. Once there's a gap, they insert themselves in. And I'm not saying, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's a married couple. Please point that out to me, folks. I would love nothing more than be proven wrong on this so I can adjust my thoughts on it. I just look at it and I go, when we're talking about, you know, um, you know, like I guess when we're talking about like how to proceed forward some of the things I'm very passionate about how to navigate what's coming I'm very bullish on a healthy marriage yeah if you're married if you're

married then okay that's a different story but a marriage and kids in particular how you navigate some of the things when it comes to parental rights and different things like that stay married because every time you see divorces and I'm not saying that goes across board can you be divorced and have a, what's the word I'm looking for? Amicable. Amicable, thank you. Sure, sure. It happens.

Yeah. But all it takes is COVID coming along. One parent goes, but that's crazy. The other one goes, what the heck are you doing? And now it's a fight. And once you have a fight, who comes in to mitigate it? And they may have been on the same page prior to a divorce. And now it's just one more lever post-divorce to angle the kids away.

Yeah, it's one of those things. And definitely not all couples are meant to stay married. And if you're in something horrible, then you got to work out what's best for you. But the government now more than ever is interjecting themselves into the family and everywhere on top of that. And if there's one example in Canadian history about the government interjecting themselves into the family, look no further than the residential schools that were set up. I mean, what a horrible, horrible idea. Like, and it just, I mean, I worked in corrections for 10 years and there's a legacy. there from that that's pronounced every day in a courtroom somewhere, the effect that residential

schools had. And people can, you know, poo poo that away or throw it under their carpet or whatever they want to do with it. And I'm sure there's an extreme on both ends of that scale. But somewhere in the middle of it, the government interfered in who they thought should be raising your kids. And that's not ever supposed to happen. And it was allowed to happen here.

And they wanted them to be part of culture, socially accepted. and I'm glazing over probably a lot. But like when you talk to First Nations, you know, there was a period of time there where they weren't allowed to gather. Well, we have, I don't know, have we ever experienced that? Yeah.

Right? I, one of my biggest, one of my, how the heck do I say this, Chuck? One of my biggest issues today with people is we're fighting for things that have happened horrendously to people in the past. And I'm not here to dispute. that. But those same people didn't fight when in the middle of COVID, they were talking about

putting people in tournament camps. Yeah. We weren't allowed to gather. Yeah. We weren't allowed to do all these things. It's like, it just played out in front of you. And you put your head down and we're like, oh, everything's fine. It wasn't that bad here. Worse. Worse, most of those people were actively pro camp, putting them into camps, you know. Somebody, the, the German example is always brought up. And for a good reason. It's quite, the example. Um, but people, if you watch any World War II documentary, a good World War two documentary will start in the 30s because it didn't start on like September 1st of 1939. It started in like well before that, even in the 20s when Hitler was making his ascension, but

it if you watch a good one, it describes the change in language. And I've talked about this with you before, about the Bosnia stuff that we witnessed firsthand, but you, they changed the language and they changed some laws and they changed some laws. And then they changed a few things about how society viewed a segment of society, the Jews in this case, or different, you know, different groups. Wasn't just the Jews, but the Jews were the brunt of it. But we, in 50 years when they do a COVID analysis of how this all broke down, if we're still around in 50 years as a society, they're going to go, oh, well, let's, let's look at how this change. Because the breakdown in how we talked, it's all there. Like, see, one of the, one of the biggest things that scared me was when Jamie says,

Sinclair. The first time he was on, him and Henry came in. Mm-hmm. And he said that. It always starts with this little divide. It does. Yeah. And at that time, we had unvaxed and we had faxed.

And you could feel it perceptibly everywhere you went. And that's what he's talking about with Croatian, Bosnia. They, the, the, the, I mean, I didn't think I would see it here. I didn't. But when you actively saw, now, people will say, well, it was only a few loud mouse on Twitter or social media. I'm like, those few loudmouse, those guys had hundreds of thousands. of likes. When you look at like the CTV poll, that very famous when we're like, well, should we

deny the unvaxed healthcare? Could you ever imagine that being said in Canada? I've told you the story where I got an argument with a friend about that. And I was, I was being for the once, I don't like being very argumentative. I'm willing to listen to pretty much any side. We're having an argument about this health care thing. Yeah. And I push harder than I normally did because I was curious how close we were to that moment. Yeah. And the answer I got was you know I yeah I think you know if it's my kid versus your kid you should be denied and I was like wow and now in fairness I give a lot of props to the friend because he called me at like five minutes later he's I don't know I said that and I was like that's where we're at that's where

we're at that's how quick it turns and that's how close we are you know one of my hopes for the SMP presents and I should say the the cornerstone forum I don't know if I mentioned that is to put You and Alex Craneer on stage because he was Croatian. Or he is, I shouldn't say, was. He is. And I go both served in the military. I don't know. I respect you both so much.

I'm like, I wonder what that. I wonder what that. I don't know. I don't know if anything would come of that. Maybe it's a stupid idea. Maybe something beautiful comes there. Do you know when he served? What his time frame was?

I don't actually. I should ask Alex when he served. I wonder if he deployed to Bosnia, Croatia, as a, because I only know if I. Because his big story is red and black. black ants, right? And when they live in a glass jar, they're not a big deal, but if you shake them up, they kill each other. And he goes, so anytime there's global conflict, you have to look at who's shaking the jar because that's the way he looks at that conflict. Yeah. And when he was on stage in June, that's the way he talked about Ukraine, right? Is who's shaking the jar? What are they

trying to provoke? What are they trying to do? It's a very balanced, you know, when it comes to something so like you want to just get like the emotions want to you know rage Alex has a way of of bringing everybody down and that's a really cool trait and it's a trait that I wish more people had like you can approach most

things reasonably you can but we are approaching another unreasonable period in our time and it's the Ukraine part everybody's got Ukraine exhaustion and I think at this point even if you're very pro-Ukraine

you understand that it's not going their way. And I always feel like I have to caveat this. I'm not pro-Russian. I'm not pro-Putin. I'm not anti-war. I'm very for a war, a righteous war, if you're in it to win it. And we are not in it to win it in Ukraine. We dribble stuff into them.

We've dribbled enough in to keep them going as a lifeline for a while. You've heard like guys like McCain and several other big U.S. politicians say literally, well, we're just, using up the Ukrainians. It's not good American boys and girls dying. It's Ukrainians. How callous do you have to be as a human and we all know who he is. Or not McCain, sorry, Lindsey Graham. McCain's dead a couple years now, but he would have, the two of them were channeling your inner Biden where you forget what decade it is. Yeah, here and there. Um, but, but, um, these guys are openly admitting like, well, well, and

then they, they openly admitted at the Pentagon last week. Well, yeah, but 90% of the American money that's going to Ukraine. is actually spent in the US. It's they've admitted it openly and we all knew this like yeah, we say we're sending you 95 billion, 90 billion of it will be spent here in the US. And we'll send you some weapon systems that we haven't built yet. Like you're now starting to see the collapse on the front in various spots. And people will go, well, no, Chuck.

It's been two years and they've only made it this far. They've made it as far as they really want to. There's a few places that they still need to take in order for their in their head to prevent. barrel artillery being able to hit certain towns. Rocket artillery is a different matter. It has much bigger range, but they need to push far enough. And I'm telling you right now, and people will not want to hear it, some people anyway, although I think the Ukraine exhaustion has reached a point where people are like, enough, like stop spending our money there, regardless of who's right or wrong. Again, I'm not saying the Russians are right. We need to negotiate this out at some

point because Putin will keep going now. If NATO doesn't want to go and we all by, I think most people in your audience will have heard a verifiable claim that Boris Johnson poo poohed the attempt at a negotiation very early in the conflict. He was sent in directly because Zelensky was quite willing to say, okay, we'll sign this off. This is like been, this is, everybody knows this to be true. Standard knowledge by now, it's standard knowledge.

But it's fairness. It's good to point it up. Boris Johnson went in and said, you will not. You will not sign this. We are going to keep this going. They've kept it going. And again, to the Ukrainian guy on the ground who's fighting, good on you. You've fought a hell of a fight.

But you're going to start getting rolled out. But what a Criner say last week when he was on or two weeks ago, whatever the heck that was, he talked about how they've ordered 50,000 uniforms for women now. So that's a scary thing. So this last town that just fell, Adveka, and I'm mispronouncing it, because I barely speak good English on a good day. Adveka just fell.

Edvika, after 2014 was turned into a fortress town. It was literally a fortress town. And it's been fought over in the preceding. It's funny because on Ukrainian channels, they'll talk about, on telegram, they'll talk about how this town has been fought over for about 10 years. Well, I thought the war started two years ago. But if you've been following everything since the maiden coup in 2014, you know that the combat's been ongoing.

It's been Russian-backed separatists who've wanted to separate from Ukraine for that, you know, length of time. That war has been going on. Well, that town, when it fell, there were numerous female frontline soldiers taken prisoner. Numerous female, if you go on Russian telegram, they'll show you. Like, again, telegram's kind of a good metric. If you follow all sides, don't follow one side, follow all sides. So you can kind of cut it in the middle of like what's real, what's not real. Um, there's a lot of female dead on the battlefield in that town.

Like not just a couple, but a lot. They showed on the pro-Ukrainian side all the wounded females being brought back. And it's like, this isn't a couple. It's not a couple of nurses or female medics, which you could kind of expect to see here. but although not close to the front. Yeah. And they've just passed a law not that long ago, a couple months ago in Ukraine, where they're going to start conscripting females at a certain age bracket.

I'm not, I don't remember the whole top and end of it, but that's a scary thing. It's a really scary thing that now you're going to be pulling, not only are they pulling at the bottom and the top of the barrel for men, but you're now going to start conscripting women. Like at that point, everybody like. You know what it makes me wonder, Chuck, you know, like when Boris Johnson walks in and says, you're not going to end it? Like they have his balls in a vice. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of speculation and it's been speculated for a very long time that Zelensky will face an internal coup.

And it'll either be one of the two, three-letter agencies. It'll be CIA saying, okay, next man up. We're going to figure this out. or it'll be the KGB and they'll or whatever FSB they are now. They're going to say, okay, enough's enough. Get rid of this guy. You know, they're going to give him the old, what was the guy that died in prison there last week?

Who's the biggest claim now is that he got a KGP heart punch. And it's like in, uh, what's that Tarantino movie? Kill Bill where she walks up and. God. You know, you know, of all the, I'm going to deviate here for a second, of all the Tarantino. Netflix. I don't know. Maybe I should go back and watch it, but I don't know what it is about Uma Thurman. I'm just, I'm just not a huge Yoma Thurman fan. The Kill Bill, like, idea of the

movie, I'm like, I can get behind, but like, Uma Thurman just isn't it for me. Yeah, she's an odd character for sure. I mean, she did good in Pulp Fiction, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did well. But she was like a side character in that. Yeah. Yeah. She's not the main, I don't know. No, I'm with you there. But anyway, my greater point to that is, is I would expect they're I'm going to have to, there's, there's a very fine tipping point where you're pulling back and running away. And we're, you're starting to see that. If you're following stuff on telegram, you're starting to see units now that Adveka's

fallen and it was a very hard strong point. Um, the towns around it, the Ukrainian soldiers are like, no, because morale wise, and I've gone through this as a soldier in combat, whenever you've known a unit to pull back on your flank or re position you never you never they never ran away would but I've seen units reposition and you're like well if we're here and they they're no longer over there this is all open to us now and mentally you start to be like oh well now I'm now you're doing a lot of this and you and that's what's happening now is these guys have been beat up for so long and they're not getting the weapons and they're not getting, you know, that flow has been trickled now.

So that's, that's the Ukrainian side of things. Like it or hated. I know most people are exhausted with it. And I do think that this year they'd better negotiate it or Putin is going to keep rolling through the rest of it and take most, a lot of Ukraine. And then that drags us in that will drag the West in, unfortunately. If he takes more of Ukraine. If he keeps going beyond these three, you know,

territories that have wanted to separate anyway, there's a chance, yeah, yeah. And especially since the capital Kiev is, has stripped several of their guard units, like they had several more brigades there that are intended. So early on in the conflict, they did a, Russia did a very bold maneuver and airborne in a bunch of by chopper, uh, and by convoy, very deep into Ukraine towards an airfield. And it was made this big PR win for the, you know, Ukrainians that they, you know, did this and or stopped the Russian thing. It was only ever meant to force a shield around Kiev. That's all it was. It was and it was very well done. And the Russians more or less pulled back in good order. Like they, yeah, they weren't ever

meant to hold there. That wasn't the intent of it. They pulled back. They took losses. It's a war. You're going to take losses. Um, but Kiev has always now had to maintain a very large force, a reserve to hold that as of what if they do it again because Russia has the capability of dropping a lot of dudes wherever they want. They've had to strip that and reinforce Advika and several other areas that are under big pressure right now. So I don't know that there's a whole lot more time to make a negotiation where it's at least amicable or not amicable, but as least amount of shitty for the Ukrainians as it could

be at this point. And we're approaching that point. Why would Putin stop? Nobody's coming to his table. I'll tell you this. Nobody's coming to his table for this year. Nobody, not until Trump's in. If he gets in. If he'll, he'll get in. Trump will get in. I'll tell you, if he doesn't get in, I don't even want to think about how bad it's going to be like not just Ukraine. I mean, overall where the world's in a really hurting spot. You go into that with, next big war on the table is, uh, what's going on in Israel. I mean, where does that end? Well, in the Israeli minds, you, it only ends once all of Hamas has been destroyed.

And you, again, this shocks me in Canada. People want to know what 1930s Germany looks like. Dush, you can just look at the streets and the news in any Canadian city in Canada right now. That's what it looked like. And they're cloaking it behind this. anti-Zionist slogans and all this other stuff. Being anti-Zionist sounds reasonable if you don't know anything. You know, Zionism basically means that you want Israel to have a state.

That's basically what Zionism is. People will extrapolate that and they'll have, you know, world government and all this other rabbit hole type stuff and all these other things. But if you were to ever replace Zion with Jew, well, now you have hate speech. But as long as you keep it as the Zionism, I'm an anti-Zionist. Well, that sounds reasonable. You're anti-Jewish is what you are. You're anti-the-Jews having a state.

Now you can go back to biblical times because I know that everybody right now wants to cherry-pick history and go back. Well, in the Old Testament, I think they mentioned Israel something like 2,500 times. I don't think they mention Palestine. So, I mean, if you're really wanting to cherry-pick history out there, folks go all the way back go way way back go back to the Quran I think Israel is mentioned let's mention a couple dozen times in the Quran I read the Quran before I went over in 06 and I don't you read the Quran I read everything I could yeah what did you think at the Quran honestly it's not a whole it's a it's a it's as well

told as the Old Testament I mean if I mean I like the Old Testament if you're going to read a fire and brimstone type thing and get really old school. Um, I'm not a religious guy. I read these. I read, I read everything I read everything I can just to have a better understanding of where things are going or coming from. The Hadiths that go with the Quran are fairly telling if you read those. I mean, they're more of a war manual. Hadiths. Hadiths, yeah. They're kind of like a, and a, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm probably going to offend the shit out of a lot of people in the way that I

structure the way I think, say things, but they're kind of like a, you know, guide path to war or a, or a more how to are the Hades like additional once again, I don't know they're kind of like an additional thingy to to it. Yeah. So. Were they written by, uh, I don't know way, that I don't know. I mean, it was way back when, but I, I read it before going over to Afghanistan because we actually had a lot of cultural classes before we went. And one of the guys, um, he wasn't Afghani, but he was from the Middle East and,

you know, he's very well spoken and he's like, these are the things you're going to encounter that's going to be far different than what you're used to. Um, not the combat scope of things, but on like the cultural thing. Yeah. Like went up to him after the after the thing we had a chance, we all had a chance to talk with this guy one on one, you know, it was, it was really well done. And, um, I'm like, what do I need to read or know so that I have an understanding?

He's like, well, if you have the time and the inclination, I'd read the Quran. Like, well, shit, why not? So I did. And, um, yeah, it, you know, I'm not sure if I'm really supposed to have read it, but, you know, because I'm not Muslim, but, um, it was interesting. I mean, but no more, it's no more. it's like any religion and I'm not comparing religions I'm just saying if you want to live by the word by the word of any religion well it's pretty hardcore if you want to take it that way I've been to

Muslim countries that are not hardcore and I've been to some that are very hardcore you can go around different parts of Canada and the US and the world and you can have some hardcore Christians who live you know that way it's It's the Sharia version of it that like they try to really implement, they do implement in Afghanistan. That's the extreme end of it. I've been, I have Muslim friends who don't live that way, you know, they're devout, but they're not Sharia devout.

I mean, there's, that's a whole different thing. I mean, it's all in how you want to interpret it and how you want to apply it. So when it comes down to like Israel and this is the same for the same for the the Jews. I mean, you have some, you have some Hasidic Jews who are extremely, you know, devout, and I'm probably misphrasing all of this, but people will understand what I'm saying. You have some who are to the nth degree into Judaism. And you have some who are like, well, it's part of my culture, part of what I believe in, but I'm, you know, I don't go to one extreme or the other about it. And I think that the extreme of anything is bad. It's, it, it does. It, it, it,

doesn't ever work out well. But when we're going to, how do you solve this thing in the Gaza? Well, people just don't want to cherry pick October 7th now. Like I mean from the, this infant intifada side that we see protesting daily in Canada and around the world. Um, they, they want to skip over that. Well, that's, that wasn't that don't, don't count that that. That didn't we, we can brush past that now.

They're already trying to rewrite that history, um, which they really can't because Hamas put out all the GoPro video as it was happening. It's all out there. Again, go on telegram if you don't want to sleep for a week and watch some of that. Like it's, uh, it's disturbing. It's bad and more of it's coming out all the time because the Israelis as they take more ground, find more, you know, are able to uncover more footage and more stuff that was that they didn't even put out that day or didn't make it out that day. But there's another one that was just put out of some systematic stuff that was happening. And it's like, Holy shit.

Like you think they're terrible already. So I mean, do I think every Palestinian's bad? No, I don't. Do I think a vast majority of them supported what happened that day? Well, you can see the video for yourself. You believe it or not. But the day it happened, they were, some of them took part in it. They crossed over and took part in it.

Don't care if you think that makes me whatever. I don't, I don't give a shit. Like I've said it before. Basically if the Taliban picks aside and they've, you know, kind of backed up Hamas on this. I'm on the other side of it. Like, doesn't matter to me who you, that other enemy is. It's bad. And Hamas proved themselves to be worse than ISIS, which I never thought would happen. We all know what ISIS was capable of, but even ISIS is like, whoa, tone her down boys. Like, like, that's some insane shit. It's, so what does Israel, what's

everybody on the left calling it now, their proportional response? What's your proportional response, October 7th. I'll tell you what mine would be. We'd be going a whole hell of a lot harder than Israel is right now. I can tell you that. Like, they're playing with kid gloves right now. You have this, some of these military experts are like, well, now we're really seeing how weak Israel's army is because it's taking them

four months to really do what they're doing. They'll say that one day. And on the next day, they're like, oh, Israel did this. Well, they're fighting the most complex environment, which is a built up environment against an enemy that had decades to prepare tunnels and fighting positions because everything in that area is a fighting position. They've had decades to train people, equip them with our money, with your taxpayer dollar in mine and everybody listening.

That's verifiable. That's not chuck conjecture. That's out there that we all know that now with the support of UNR, with the UN, basically running cover for them in that area. Verifiable again. Like there's video of them taking part. There's video of them since taking part. The brain center of Hamas was located under an UNRah headquarters.

Like this is all verifiable and UNR was saying, well, we didn't know they were there. Well, they're running the cables up through your floor. Somebody might have noticed that or the dozens of dudes leaving and coming and going every day through your building to go downstairs. into their brain center. Like you might have noticed that. I noticed somebody coming into my house and going into the basement every day, but that's me. So this crazy event that's going on there, this war, it's only going to end when Israel says

it ends. They don't give a shit and I think rightly what the rest, the rest of the world thinks. They don't care about our protests. They don't care about your feelings or mine. They've said at time and again, we have the ability to defend, ourselves and we're going to people can stretch that into well they should have it's an open air prisoner to this to that Egypt can open up their border today they can open up their border today and absorb about two million Palestinians and house them they don't they don't take a one

although apparently they're clearing some ground right now where they might put up like a hundred thousand of them in a camp don't know there's Israel is a speck Israel is a speck about this big, if your table was the map of the Middle East, Israel is like this little speck. And no other Arab country is taking on these Palestinians and people could ask themselves why not there. Ask that question. It's, well, Israel is anti-Muslim and anti-this. One fifth of Israel's nine million, just over nine million population is Arab.

Is Arab? They have every right. They're judges, their lawyers, their teachers, their soldiers, they're happy to be Israeli because they associate themselves as being Israeli. That doesn't get talked about or mentioned or if you say it, well, yeah, but they're probably really subjected or no, they're willing to talk about it firsthand. And anybody that goes there and doesn't know that and finds out about it is like, holy shit, I didn't know that one fifth of these people.

One fifth. That'd be like in Canada. What's that about just shy of 10. million people in this country would be from, you know, X. Think about that. Like two million of their, almost two million of their population is Arab. But people seem to forget that. Like they're the freest Arabs as well.

You won't find another segment in any other country that's as free. It's funny. I just had Jeremy McKenzie on, right? And he brings up Israel being the opposite of what you're talking about. Yeah, he's very much on the other side of it. Yeah. And, well, all I find. interesting is like I sit here and I listen and I go okay no clue I I I you know

it's like I could the the hardest thing with the entire thing is it is it a blind spot of mine no I maybe just in the sense that I don't know how to even like how do you even comment on where do you start point it like you can go back wherever you want but if you're going to start point it go all the way back then and take the time to research the last couple thousand years one of the hardest things for me to like wrap my brain around is like, you know, you remember the show, this is probably very poor

example, the McCoys and Oh, the old feud? The old generational feud. Now take that. Hatfields and McCoys. Hatfields and McCoys. Costner and yeah. And I'm just like, just

have a hard time understanding where you can have that rich of history built around conflict. You know, and you look at Europe, You look at Russia, right? What would have Putin do in the Tucker interview? Like, he was giving a history lesson from his viewpoint, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he's literally going back to the 800s. And you're going, do we go back to 19, like, do we even talk about 1905? Like, let alone, you know, the 1700s and on and on and on. Yeah. Not really. Like, we're going to talk about the last like 50 years and that's it. That's all we do here. And even then that's a stretch.

Well, our countries are so new here. Canada's only, what, 150 something, 100, what are we? 1867 is the country. But I mean, you had upper and northern. Yeah. You can go back to probably what, folks, 1,700s? Sure. That's still only.

Maybe 1,600s. I mean, and now, then you're going to go while the First Nations are here before. Sure. But as a country of Canada, how far do we go back? You know, it depends where you want to go with that. So we don't even know our own start point, really, as far as how far we're going to cherry pickerone history, these people have been engaged in conflict for a couple thousand years on one scale or another in a region that's been fought over for a couple thousand years

on one level or another. And so for in Canada, we kind of look at it as like, well, what's the easiest thing. What's the easiest thing for me to wrap my head around? Well, they're called Palestinian refugees. So that must be, they're the bad, they're the underdog and the Israelis must be the bad guy because they're the ones making them refugees. Then you'd start to dissect that. I was like, well, how are they all refugees when they've been there for, you know, 48 since

1948? Like how is, so how does that work? How do you, how do you make that work? And why is no other country absorbing them then if they're considered refugees? So once you start asking questions, you don't have to agree with my standpoint or Jeremy's. I know he has a very different take on it. That's fine. my take is that

Israel is going to defend Israel love them or hate them they're going to defend themselves Golda my ear back and I think it was when she was their prime minister she said and I'm going to miss horribly misphrase this but something to the effect of Israel Israelis now have a Jews now have an ability to defend themselves and people will resent us for it and for the first time in the history of Judaism They can defend themselves and people seem to really fucking hate it like you and you wouldn't expect the amount of anti-Semitic rhetoric coming out of our media our politicians in Canada on the liberal side

The average person who wants to wear you know put the little scarf on and go out there and protest against Israel I wouldn't have expected this but do you see that in I assume amminton? Oh yeah. You see it. It's in the news. There's always some little protests going on I mean There's much bigger ones out east, obviously, in Toronto where that's the fad rate now. But I would never have expected it. But you wouldn't have expected anything to happen after 1930 Germany either. But here we are. I mean, you hear about Jews being ran off of comedy stages. Daily, there's something.

Daily. And it's acceptable because it's the Jews. And that's just the way it is. Well, why is it acceptable? if it's just for you to be like this about the Jews. Well, did you know about the world government that they run? Okay, well, you've gone a little too far Alex Jones, but sure. And that will be their justification for it.

Oh, so I guess they had October 7th coming. Well, yeah, they did because they did since 1948. You know what's funny is, I find when I listen to Alex Jones, when you say you've gone too far Alex Jones, Alex Jones is one saying, ah, he's almost putting the kibosh on. Yes, he is now. I'm using him as like everybody's most... I know, the goal post.

The goal post, yeah. I, he's rarely been proven wrong, actually, in the last... He said some loony stuff, yeah. Stu Peters, when Stu Peters was on there, which I found fascinating, he was arguing about a certain type of Jew, right? And I'm like, do I add this to the zeitgeist of the world? I don't know. I don't know at this point, right?

But they were talking... And that's what they were arguable. for like 40 minutes. I was like, I get what Stu Peters is saying. And I don't understand why Alex Jones won't let that go and move on to something else. That's what I was so confused about.

That's what people will wrap themselves around as this type of Jew. Like there's this type of... So you don't think that's possible. Oh, anything is possible. But if you're going to use it as a justification to do what they did on October 7th, I have a problem with that.

And do I think the Israelis should defend themselves? You're damn right. And wait. I think we can be clear here. What Hamas did on October 7th wasn't aimed at like this type. They didn't go in strategically and take out 15 of them. No. They rounded up a whole bunch of like civilians.

Civilians. And I don't know the term you want to use, like, massacred? Well, the term genocide is being thrown around that that's what the Israelis are doing. I would say it would start on, I'd say both sides have got some stuff to own up to for sure. I'm not saying the Israelis are, you know, look, it's a war. And I'll tell you a firsthand experience, it gets really fucking messy. And from my own experiences, when people start to, you know, start to laud stuff on you or, you know, you guys are heroes for what you did.

Like, I hate that word. I hate those terminologies. I hate that side of it. because I know the stuff I had to do, you know, it's messy. It's real messy and lines get crossed and blurred real quick. So when stuff happens, like obviously what they're doing over there to fight, a lot of eggs are going to get broken. And that's the way it is.

But they're reacting to something that happened to them too. Well, Chuck, did you know that in 1940? Yeah, I know that too. You want to cherry pick it back? Go back a couple thousand years to the beginning. Let's do that then. But nobody wants to go back that far. So it's, look, I don't have a, I don't have any dog in that fight, nor do most Canadians, really.

And if you think you do, like I always recommend, get a gun, get a plane ticket, or get a plane ticket first and get the gun over there. But go sign up. Go, go join the side that you. really think you're bringing you're bringing up you know i don't know we can keep talking about this i just have i don't know if i even have anything to add you know and and um in fairness i don't know chuck i respect you way too much to think that the audience is is squirming or yelling at that because if you've listened to this show for long enough you listen to chuck talk about a lot of different things i could be wrong um but i go you're giving the argument on covid

the vaccine wasn't that bad and i always go are you still getting the booster Are you still getting in? Well, good for you. And if you're not, then you're on our side. You've changed our team now. And you just don't want to admit it. Yep. Because like, if you're not getting the booster anymore, you're pretty much admitting that it,

and you can try and wrap your brain around why you're not. Yeah. But the answer is because you know it doesn't work. Mm-hmm. And you might even admit that maybe there's a little bit of risk to it and I shouldn't do that anymore. And if you're there, you're just like one of us now. You just realized. It took longer to get there.

Yeah. Sure. But I mean, but there's no point in having the argument of the COVID vaccine, it was worth it. Because if you're not still, because they're still recommending it. Yeah. Right? You should be on like your seventh shot now. I think it's six or seventh right now.

Yeah. And some people are still there. And I go, well, good for you. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be there. No. But if that's where you're at, hey, everybody's got their life to live. Everybody.

But if you. not you're on our side now yeah and the argument is is futile you you're actually lying now if you if you're arguing that it wasn't because at the end of the day if you're not getting it you've admitted that there's something wrong with it or that it's not necessary yeah which is pretty much admitting there's something wrong with it in my mind yeah and so when you go to to all this it's just i don't know i sit over here and i go what is a country kid from rural Alberta, Saskatchewan, going to tell other people that I have, you know, like, I don't even know what to say.

Well, and again. The reason I led, you know, Jeremy McKenzie wants to talk about it. You know, well, military guy. Okay. You've been over. You want to talk about war? Fair. Why is Chuck Brodna get to walk in here and do?

And do I ever shut anything down for the most part? No. Why? Because I, once again, military. And we, he and I have very different takes on it. I get that. very polar opposite takes on it, really. And I respect the guy.

I do. I think he's very well spoken on, um, a lot of issues. He's passionate. He's funny. He's, um, he speaks in a way that when you listen to him, he kind of grabs you. And for good reason, he, he speaks like a lot of Canadians think and speak themselves. We just, I don't see eye to item on this subject. I just don't.

Um, I just can't. I for a number of reasons, but I mean if I were to just break it down to one, if just one for Chuck, why he doesn't, he's not on that side because the Taliban backed Moss. They said that was a good day for you guys. Well, you know, cheers to you. Well, no, I'm always on the opposite side of the Taliban, I think. You know, that's as easy as easy as it can be for me. Do I think the Israelis are, you know, again, I'm not even in a position to say these, what is the. What is the, is the, is easy as easy as it can be for me. Do I think the Israelis are, you know, again, I'm not even in a position to say these, what is the appropriate proportional response? Because I hear this all the time. Well, the proportional response. I'll tell you about proportional response.

I've, I've done proportional response in real life and you don't want to know like what you're willing to do. It's funny. I never thought I'd have a subject. It's always, it's always interesting to me, which, which always feels a little uncomfortable to talk. But once upon a time, it was Russia, Ukraine. Think back to that. Yeah. I'd have people come on and talk like.

Well, there's a huge Ukrainian population in Canada. Yeah. Specifically here in Alberta. Yeah. Right. And I get that I probably pissed the shit out of them, a lot of them off. Yeah, but the longer goes on. And, you know, I always go back to Longo Criner coming on and talk about Nord Stream after, like, literally happened.

And then, like, calling out the British. And then, you know, it turns out it's, it's, well, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you're like, but we were talking. And I was like, oh, man, this is. You know, like nobody can ever see. Maybe they can. I don't know.

Sometimes I'm like, oh, boy, this is, I've just stepped on so many landmines. This is going to be interesting. But then it was like three months later. It all came out. And whether or not people paid attention to that or not, that's a different story. Yeah. But it literally came out. And you go, oh my God.

Like that should be tried, you know, like those. Yeah. Like that almost, you know, what is that trying to do pull us into World War III? That's what it was an attempt at. And we. didn't because of Putin. So then you watch Putin and Tucker and I go, you know, like I get all the Russian stuff.

I get on, you know, like society and how they operate and how everything in Russia probably isn't as it seems. And it's probably bad and good, you know, and everything. Yeah. I'm like, just take the Nord Stream example and put that as the Americans. And what would we do? We would ride off to war and we'd bomb the hell out of everyone. Yeah.

Russia showed insane restraint. to not like when it happened and I remember coming on your show not long after it happened and we talked about it for a minute and I said well in what logical world would Putin bomb his own pipeline like unless he wanted to expand the war which he doesn't right now at this point because he's already fighting a pretty wicked war already like there's only one other team that would do it it's the Americans I mean or they put somebody up to it but I mean at the heart of it always the Americans or the Germans they've got their hands in a lot of stuff too people should realize. Um, but in this case, it was the Americans. They've all but admitted it. I think they did admit it basically by accident, um, a couple times like, yeah, that was us. Like, oops. You, of course it was them. We know it was them. And of course that gets just glazed over after a while. Like everything does. When it, when it doesn't suit a narrative, it gets glazed over. I mean, you know, we were talking, um, After October 7th, one of your show was here after that Hamas day.

And about, I said, we're going to see it happen in Canada. There will be attacks in Canada. I don't know what they look like. I don't know how severe they'll be. Don't know when they're going to, but we had the Edmonton one. Try Googling that and finding out anything out about that. The thing about the Edmonton one is it just like I'm, okay, I'm going to say this out loud so everything here. I'm very, very thankful.

Nobody was hurt. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. is the strangest thing that he just walks in, shoots his gun off, gets down and that's it. Or am I misreading something?

Well, that's what they're letting us know right now. Initially, they didn't release either that there was a Molotov cocktail thrown. But there was. Yeah. He threw it at some marble steps, which makes no sense to me.

That's, anyway. It's kind of like, I'm going to come in and I'm going to create a whole bunch of noise because I want to make a point. And maybe that's all he wanted to do. That might have been. Maybe that's it.

And then I'm extremely thankful. I'm extremely thankful that nobody was hurt. I don't know how many times I can say that. Exactly, yeah. But like, look at any time, like, the United States have somebody take a gun into places, there's people that don't come out of that. Usually, yeah. Like, and I don't want that in Canada whatsoever.

I don't know how many times I'm going to say that. It's just that one, you go, he walked into the city hall, had a maltub cocktail. An SKS rifle. An SKS. and he wasn't systematic, like, and I don't want anyone to be systematic about it. I don't know how many times I'm going to say that because it's like a really morbid thought.

But I was just, you know, for a guy who did a video, made sure there was a video, had his like, you know, this is that. And then they'll say, well, it's, you know, it doesn't matter. It just puts out the video, walks in there, throws them all, it took, it's like. It was really the best outcome possible. Yes. For a terrorist attack where nobody was hurt.

And but we're not going to call it a terrorist attack. Yeah. You know, like, it's like, well, it's funny. Like, even myself, I'm like, do I call it a terrorist attack? I'm like, and then I go, literally a guy walked in the city hall through a Maltao cocktail shot it up on behalf of. Of them. Of Hamas.

Of the movement. And yeah, they still haven't declared at that. And they probably won't because. And they probably won't. Because it just, it feels like it's just kind of getting. Well, again, try Googling it. And I think the first thing it comes up when you try and Google an attack in Emmington with a rifle is like some guy from 2014 going in and doing something ridiculous.

And, but these moments are going to continue. And we're very fortunate. The first one was a was the outcome it was. We may not always be that fortunate. What if the war ended tomorrow, you don't, don't you think that would stop it or you don't? No, no. Why do you say no?

Because people, their emotions are up. I mean, even me without a dog in the hunt or McKenzie without a dog in the hunt, you become very polarized over this for a variety of reasons. And everybody does. Everybody wants to pick a good and a bad guy in a fight. We watch UFC. You have a favorite. You watch hockey. You have a favorite. It's, that's natural. It's a human thing. You want to be on a side. It's funny. Who is the UFC fighter, Riquet McKen? I can't think of its name. The Loudmouth? Strickland? Yeah, yeah. I bought that UFC just for that. Yeah. I was very, I'm going to support you because you are, right?

Like he just, and it's funny. When you say it that way, it's like, yeah. And I go back to 9-11, it was, I think it was best damn roofer. I think it was, I think it was, I think it was your red pill moment, 9-11. I thought he was going to go into all these experiences. And he said it's because it's how it made me feel. Yeah. I was ready to go just kill people.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I don't remember that. You know, like I was pretty young. I'm like, oh, I mean, and, you know, now I, when you say that, I'm like, oh, yeah, I can see how quickly we can get thrown onto a team. Oh, it's, it's, that's the intent of it, yeah. It's like the Rush Ukraine one. Well, huge Ukrainian population here. They're obviously going to kind of lean one way or the other.

And obviously Russia's been the bad guy in politics in Hollywood for, well, forever. So it's very easy to paint them as whatever you want to paint them as. Um, Trump last night on in a town hall he was in, he put out something that said, well, you know, the Russians essentially won World War II. And people were like, oh, Trump, you, you son of a bitch, you bastard like every other thing they can call Trump. And, um, like, how dare you? And the Russians barely were a part of it. And I'm like, well, you break down the casualty. If you break down the inflicted casualties on the Germans in World War II,

what would you think it would be the Russians did if you had to guess it in a number like a percentage of how much they inflicted I would have off the top of my head 30% 76% so of all the allies put together we made up 24% of the Germans totality and casualties in World War II the Russians made up 76% of German casualties in World War two the Russians made up 76% of German casualties So when you say, well, did the Russians win it on their own? No, but we sure shit didn't win it on our own. But we have Hollywood. So you watch Easy Company and Band of Brothers drop in and not knocking them. I'm just saying that's the effect that Hollywood has, right?

Well, no, Hollywood's propaganda. Hollywood is propaganda. I think we all see it here, you know, as we, you know, as you go along, I used to, like, can I just, I just want to turn my brain off and go watch some entertainment. Mm-hmm. Yes. That's what I thought Hollywood is. At times I still think it resembles that.

But then some stuff you watch, you're like, oh my God, like can't, I just tired of being. Messaged. Yeah. It's the messaging. It's the constant messaging. It's the, my kids are in their 20s. My daughter, you would, thankfully she's Albertan.

But even for her when she was younger, she'd watch something like, oh, and I'd be like, This show has got, it's got Noah's arc of everything in it. Like, it can't just have a simple storyline with a regular, you know, everything. It's got to have one of everybody in it. It represented. And I'm not saying don't represent people. Well, it's going to get worse now because what are the Academy Awards? I think of a whole bunch from them, right?

You have to tell a story you're underrepresented and you have to have a certain part. of your cast now that it's XYZ and your production, X, Y, Z. And to be nominated for the best movie or, you know, of the year, you got to be X, Y, Z. And so it's, it's going to be worse. Well, you look at this Google Gemini thing, this debacle of it the last couple days. Google Gemini. So it's this feature on Google they just put out where you can basically ask it, like,

what's one of the funny ones? Like, oh, show me, basically you ask it to show me a, show me a Roman culture or a Roman general or Roman Emperor. And it's, it's, you know, the meme, basically it's the meme of everything, every movie on Netflix now, or it's like Edress Elba is playing Oppenheimer. You know, it is, there were no, every Gemini search that people did, there were no white people. None, none, none.

It didn't matter what the, show me Scottish Highlanders. Hmm, still not there. Show me, so now they're doing memes about it, like show me a Canadian prime. And it's Trudeau in all of his glorious masquerades that he's done. But yeah, they've had to shut, I don't know if they've shut down Gemini or not or if they're just revamping it again. But even Google had to come out and say, oops, there was a glitch? Well, was it a glitch? Was it?

Like old employees from Google are now saying, yeah, they've basically done this algorithm where this is all you're going to see. They're changing history. I haven't, I haven't, um, my brother tagged me in this. And it's in Microsoft's official 2023 diversity and inclusion report, they openly admit that they're paying white people less and other ethnic groups in the name of pay equity. And if I read it off, it says, as of September, uh,

2023 inside the US, all racial and ethnic minority groups who are rewards eligible combined, earned a dollar while 1.007 total pay for every 1.0000 earned by US rewards. eligible white employees with the same job title and level and considering and considering tenure specifically for those who are rewards eligible US black and African American employees are earn 1.004 Hispanic and it carries on and then it brings up white again as being the lowest so that's that's Microsoft mm-hmm that's a whole other can of worms the where that is and again that's a leftist push like if you're on

the right if you're on like the even slightly right of center, which most, you know, most of us are just centrist at this point. I don't want an extreme of anything. I don't want, I don't want to swing all the way to the writer. I don't. And I'm sure you don't. Most of your listeners don't. I was happy when our, I've heard this a few times lately in reference to Harper.

I was happy when politics were boring because there was stability. And the biggest thing I had to worry about was, do I spend a little extra on a trip to Mexico? You know, back then, we're talking, what, 10, 15 years ago? But did you think? Do you think you just weren't aware of it, Chuck? No, I've always been fairly aware. And sure, there were always things going on. I expect that there always will be.

That's the way the world runs. But in Canada, it was kind of boring and that was kind of nice. Like our inflation rates were stable. We had a good economy. People could find work. We weren't tearing down statues of guys who were being, uh, Dr. Phil had the word for it, uh, when you retroactively go back 20 years and dig something up on someone that isn't acceptable

now. You know, it's not cancel culture. It's something like being present, whatever it's called. But anyway, you got, you all get what I'm saying. But we go back a couple hundred years and we're tearing down statues of our founding, you know, figures of this nation. But we're willing to go back 150, 200 years because dude, you know, put out a bad tweet 150 years ago. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. Um, may not have been the most perfect human 150 years ago, given the times, but he helped found the country, but you know, we know that 20 years ago, Trudeau was running around

in blackface in his 20s and we're just, and he's got an NDA against him and he's got all these ethics violations with no other prime minister's ever had. We have current stuff on Trudeau, but we're just supposed to be like, oh, that's okay. Like, and now I hope Trudeau stays into the next election. I really do. because he's not going to make it. My biggest fear is they, his own party realizes that he's the sinking anchor on a ship and they got to toss it overboard and bring in a freeland or something else.

Although she's just about as hated, she's a better politician. So. Is she? She is. She's a much more savvy politician than he is. And, you know, she'll pull a female vote some. She's also as hated as he is. though too because out west for sure out west for sure I mean I don't know that they have a good

candidate I don't know if they have a reasonable candidate that the they liberals could put in I don't know that they have one I can't think of one in their party that when I hear them speak in parliament or are doing a presser on Twitter where I'm like you know what you're kind of reasonable you're near the middle you you kind every one of them is an activist politician that you see They're just some ridiculous character of progressivism. It's just none of it is rational. Stephen Gibboe and all his bullshit. I mean,

you just really want to sink the country at this point. You're really just going to tear it apart. You mean we don't need any more roads? Who needs a road? Who needs? And you know what? For my lifestyle, I'd prefer the government couldn't get it on a road to me. Like, you know, at this point, if we're going to keep going down there, like, if you try and find me then, I'll go off road.

Yeah, we were just talking about it. The episode before you is the blue color, second edition of the blue color roundtable. Yeah. And it is, I think it's great. So if you haven't turned into it, and it's got Chase Barber. Yeah, yeah. Madison Motors and Quick Dick McDick and Tyler Schallack from the crackpot farmer. I think they do, you know, an excellent job on a virtual roundtable. And, you know, we get talking about like Canada, you know, like it's just so you got, you got, you got Gabo saying, you know, we're done with roads, you know, and being a little tongue

and cheek, but not really. Not really. Not really. And then you got the NDP saying, you know, let's put a bill forward for, you know, we're going to jail people for promoting oil and gas. For literally saying, I heart oil and gas. You can go to jail for that. I mean, obviously we, we, uh, obviously, uh, that hasn't passed. But I mean, like the fact they're putting it out there is insane.

It's like Peterson when he says, they'll push you so far until you say no, they'll wait a minute and be like, we're pushing again. And you're like, That's what it feels like. It's like a constant push. And because these people know they're going to be at the end of their tenure here in the next election, they're just trying to push every crap legislation that they can down our throats at this point. I mean, I've said it before. Thank God for Daniel Smith.

Are you at all, you know, uh, like, is there anything you look at the future and you go, man, I'm excited about this? Nope. Be honest. I wish I, I wish I had some epiphany type moment or some Peterson or Tucker type moment where I could say, you know what, Sean's audience? You know, but everybody's probably seen that meme of the guy, uh, sitting on a Russian vehicle and he's looking back and it's, um, it's fairly famous being.

He's like, I know it's horrible at there right now, friends, it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse. It just, an election needs to happen like today, not a year from now. And I think, a year and a bit, a year and a half. Imagine the, because they know. they're on cruise control to the toilet, they are going to take the country into that toilet. They're going to make it as hard as they can. Their game book now, and it's the liberal game book.

You've seen it before is to make things as uncomfortable and as bad as they can be. So that Oliver, or however you say his last name, Pierre, has a such a difficult time fixing it. That he's, it's unfixable almost. I mean, for me, he's got to change the, Scrap the gun bullshit that the liberals did. I'm I'm I'm it has to happen like the you will not get my guns. I will not sell them. I'm not going to give them back to the government. I'm not their mind. I'm keeping them. That's got to change and Paul he's going to do that apparently defund the CBC. There's a billion plus

bucks a year for a channel nobody watches nobody listens to it's just a dead legacy media and the couple other big things that he's got on the go as far as fixing our economy. I hope so. Um, a reasonable immigration. Yep. That has to happen. I mean, I'm in the middle of trying to sell my house again. Um, and it's a nightmare. Like, everything's a nightmare right now. And anybody going through it knows what a nightmare things are right now. Like even looking for another house like preemptively kind of looking at something like, oh my God. Like the house is on the market, you know, in some spot. doesn't even hit the market and it's gone because there's too many people and not enough housing.

Liberals, oh, we're going to fast track housing. That, uh, anybody that's in that world, we've had Shane Wensel on here a couple times and he'd speak about it much better than I can. I should bring Wenzel back on. Especially with this new housing stuff going on. He's a very smart man. But you just need to be a trade in that industry to know the logistics and the reality of how building works. I mean, it's not an overnight process. And even if, even if we stopped immigration today, it would take us years of building

to get ahead. And we're not stopping immigration under the Trudeau's. I think he's got another 400,000 that he wants to bring in from around the world. We don't have a medical system that supports it. So any veteran out there listening and you probably, if you're going through anything with Veterans Affairs, you know what a nightmare that can be. They're only part of the nightmare. My family doctor, which took me months to get at the start of this process, because I hadn't had one, I used to just do medic centers, because I couldn't find a family doctor, but I got one for the Veterans Affairs process because they kind of prefer that you do. You need one. So it took me months. I finally got one. I just took the first one that said, yeah, I'll, I'll take on a new client. And he's junk. He's absolute junk. Not going to get too far into that, but he's, because I could do an episode on that.

But if you have a good family doctor folks, hold on to them for dear life because I'll tell you what, they're not as common as you'd think. It took me months to get one and he's not an advocate. He messed up my paperwork more than a few times. I got claims for ankles, knees, hips back, that kind of stuff. 21 years of infantry stuff is not working the way it should. He messed up the paperwork so bad for eight months that I was yelling at Veterans Affairs and I'm like, dude, my guy. your doctor didn't submit some of this stuff. I'm like, so I've got to get a hold of him and he's like, well, I kind of made a mistake or oh, I just didn't do it at all.

Well, it's that's so if you're a veteran out there, make sure if you're going through the process that your doctor is an advocate and is competent. Mine, I've got to switch midstream, which is going to set me back again because that's what happens. And then Veterans Affairs is like, oh, you got a new doctor. We've got to start all this over again. And you're like, oh, good. because this was a really speedy process the first time around. So it's like, oh my God. But our medical system, I go into his, his waiting room.

It's over, it's 30 people in there every day. Like it's our medical system is you hear the horror stories, they'll see them on Twitter about a family and there was one, she's Canadian, like always she's Canadian we're talking about it, but I forget where she was from, but she went in because her daughter was having, I think an appendicitis type thing. It took them like 36 hours to do. it and she didn't get a room and like for the first 30 hours she was in the waiting room and they're like yeah we know that's bad we know what it is but this is like I

couldn't imagine taking my kids to an emergency room now minor in the 20s thankfully years are much younger and everybody out though with younger kids I couldn't imagine it was bad enough when you'd wait a couple hours on a you know the kids would always get sick on a fucking Friday night or something and you know and be like okay we're in the waiting room a couple hours on a Friday night nobody's getting sleep tonight, but now you're in their days. You can be in their days depending where you are. How scary is that?

Like we don't have a functioning healthcare system. People will say, well, it's free. Well, no, it's not free. Have you checked your taxes? Like tax times coming up folks. Like, I'm taxed to death. I'm sure you're taxed. Although I'm not tax so bad now that I'm retired and I've structured things differently.

But everybody out there that has a job. I always remember like I, I, I'm like this It's been a slow You know It's not like I jumped on things early And just got it right away And taxes is another one

I've set this lots You know Like in the beginning I'm like oh it's just part of life You just got to pay taxes And now I'm like Especially running this I'm like

I cannot believe how much money Goes out the door It just It sucks It like It sucks Yep And every

politicians in the city of Lloyd what are we going to do to fund everything raise taxes it's like it's got to be a creative way you know but I then I think about the blue collar roundtable and I hear some of the things that business owners farmers entrepreneurs are going through and I'm like it's like we don't want to get ahead we don't I'm going to use an example so you've been out to the the cannabis facility I used to work out with the boys with John and Dave and they're two of the smartest guys I know like I've ever met in my life both of them between them they're smart in different ways on different things but between the two of them I learned a lot working for them and the county out there was real receptive and they were really you know rubbing shoulders kind of thing

because we provided employment and a big big footprint kind of thing and one of the reasons they went out there the guys because their business would be listed as agricultural. It's a growing thing. And so anybody that knows anything about how your yearly taxes are structured around a business, whether it's agricultural or not, well, we went from a figure that would be far less than a thousand bucks a year to in excess of hundreds of thousands a year because the county decided to restructure how it wanted to pull taxes. Chase,

Chase Barber was talking about mine and he wouldn't say what mine it was. You just, he's, I can't say, so I'm, I, I, you'll listen to this and then you'll understand what I mean, but he was saying that there, there was a, like a, a stream that was, uh, basically uninhabitable for fish. Mm-hmm. And this mine came in and cleaned it up so the water was cleaner and the fish started swimming further and further up it because now they can. And, you know, I'm butchering the story a little bit, but you'll get the idea.

And the government was charging them like $50,000 because of that. And they said, well, we could turn it back to what it was. Yeah. No, no, no, we'll find you more for that. It's like, you do good? Fine. You do bad? Fine.

Everybody's just getting, we're just going to charge you. Taxes on everything. All I could think of is a kid. I watched Robin Hood cartoon. Taxes, taxes, taxes. We're going to raise the taxes. We're just going to come in and tax, tax, tax. that's it feels like we're there we're there they're they're they're they've renamed the carbon

tax and the uh the the rebate or something yeah carbon tax rebate yeah like our carbon the carbon rebate they throw tax in there they've skipped the tax portion i think they skip the tax yeah it's just it's just it's great it's great it's great it's great there's no benchmark they don't even know what effect it's had on the climate because we all know that it hasn't had anything i mean if one kid pees in a pool like does it affect everybody you know that kind of thing. And here's Canada paying their climate taxes with for what benchmark? What are we we we're accomplishing nothing like travel the world a little and see what

the rest of the world's doing and then talk to guys who actually are, you know, climate scientists like real dudes who are telling you like we are in the middle of what always happens. Like this is just an earth's natural. I don't mean to crap on all the educated portion of the world because the like my brother is an engineer. Although I tease Dust from time to time He's a smart guy But I remember when he

Speaking to him When he came back He had his engineering degree And then Forgive me Dust I want to say you You started working somewhere And then he went

And worked on the rigs As an engineer Because he wanted to understand There's very few of that Very little of it And so what you get is you get this I don't know Is it a complex where you know

But the guys out in the field There's a disconnect Because you're like What the hell is he talking about And I'm speaking oil field but you think of like this carbon tax we're saving the planet you listen to chase barber talk yeah which i mean i'm talking about a conversation that will have happened by the time uh you listen to chuck but for chuck he hasn't heard it yet like it's exactly that it's like

the government either cannot get out of its way no one or two it is about as corrupt as it's ever going to get and we're there we're like we sure can it go another 10 years another 50 years sure but we're there i mean we're there in this ineptitude of stupidity where you know we have effective ways to to do things that would actually benefit people benefit our area benefit our industry benefit the entire country and we don't want to do it well use cannabis as an example the people will always people that don't know any better will always say well they'll see a cannabis company fail of which there's been many of them now for good

reason or for a variety of reasons the biggest one is taxed the way we are taxed they'll say, well, it's not their same quality. I'm like, I would challenge anybody who gets their, their product from a guy or the guy to put that up against in a lab against what's grown in most facilities. I'm not saying Aurora because there's stuff as shit, but most facilities. And the reason I say this is because the guy who gets his wherever or grows it wherever is using all kinds of bad product on it to keep. certain bugs and molds off of it. It's never been tested, like actually tested.

Well, did it get you high? It got me high. It was the best stuff ever. It was good stuff from BC. Good. It got you high. But does it test at 14% or at 28% or 32% or the guy doesn't know and you don't know. And you don't know what's been put on it.

All the stuff that comes out of an LP, it's tested independently. It's tested. And if you say, well, the lab comes back and says, well, stuff's at 24% no that's what you put on there was at 24% and it ended all the bad stuff in it you can't have the bad stuff you can't even clean with certain stuff to clean your environment because it'll register in the product so all these LPs are going through all this heartache to get to put a safe and effective product out there more than you would for the food that you buy it's a strangest thing and then the government taxes it to death and not just the federal government

But the provincial government puts different guidelines on it. And every province is different. And they tax it to death before you even get it to the store. So like here in Alberta, like most provinces, we, you would put it through AGLC. And they'll tax you to death before they even put it out there. And then it's taxed again out there to the consumer. So by the time you buy a bag for 28 bucks of, you know, seven grand bag and you're like, what the hell?

This is like the friggin guy growing the stuff must be getting. rich. The guy that's growing it is getting about a buck. I'm not kidding you. That's, I mean, that's probably the extreme side, but alcohol is the same way. Alcohol is the same way. Well, they looked at, they looked it up in the beer tax. Well, it's, it's on an escalator tax. Yeah. Alcohol is on an escalator tax. Yeah. April 1st, I believe everything goes out again and again and again. And you go, like, do I think alcohol shouldn't have a tax on it? No, I think having an tax on it. And, and, you know, Like, you know, understanding with alcohol, there, you know, it's a substance that gets abused and then we see that. And there's problems with it.

100%. Now, do I think it needs to be taxed into oblivion so no one can afford it? No. Like, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. You just want to drive companies under, under, under, under, under, under, out of business. Like they all these, there's a lot of breweries in Canada. And, um, for hard liquor and for, and for, and for beer. Like, there's a lot of really good Canadian companies out there.

And they're not going to be able to, they're not going to be able to compete with the big conglomerates if these taxes keep going. Because the big company can absorb it and they're just going to buy you out. Now for some guys, that's, they're ideal anyway. But mostly guys will just struggle and go out. They'll go under, under water. And that's what's happening in cannabis. Like, you're seeing all these major brands go out. Uh, hello, Jamie.

Uh, you're, uh, an hour and 20 minutes into me talking to Chuck Pradnik. How's it go today? Well, you're getting your on speaker phone right now, so we're doing quite well. I'm chuckling because I'm like, well, Jamie was here, supposed to be here, and we've been teasing all day long about how you couldn't make it. No, I'm in your chair, Jamie. I got it covered. Sounds good, Jamie.

I'll call you back after. I chuckle. I'm like, who's calling me? My phone just won't stop buzzing. That's Jamie. He calls, yeah. He's a caller. Yeah.

But, uh, well, I, I don't know. I appreciate you coming in and doing this and, uh, and sitting here. Is there, uh, you know, I don't want to shut a down truck, but at the same time, we've covered a gambit today. We've gone through it all. And, you know, for everybody that I've offended out there today who's pro one side of the other that wasn't the intent, I, I recommend everybody at least do the research into what's really going on and pull your own opinion.

Um, and even if it's the. opposite of mind, that's fine, but at least do the research. Well, the people who are offended by Jeremy McKenzie are going to be loving you. Yeah. The people that were pro Jeremy and McKenzie are going to hate you. And that's fair too. He, you know what? He and I have very similar backgrounds and a lot of stuff and doesn't mean every

veteran has the same view, right? We don't. We just don't. I respect him for his view, what he's done, what he's had to go through. Um, and the way, the way he speaks. The two things that I find very interesting is, I think Jeremy's thorough and I think Chuck's very thorough and two thorough guys come out on the opposite end very often side isn't that fascinating like fascinating and hard to

kind of like fully understand and then you go and how do you get global conflict well that's how it happens I mean yeah we you can look at the same slide under microscope and have two very different opinions that's just the way it is I mean you asked a little while ago what do I have some bright point in the future I don't I mean the election is a bright point But that's still a hope and a dream. Like does he get in? I think he'll get in and I think he'll get in with a super majority.

Can he change everything and fix everything? I really hope so, but do I think that's going to really, um, there are some irreversible things that even in the federal government side of stuff, we need to work out at the community level. And I think that's why what you do with like Cornerstone SMP presents, that's valuable stuff and needed more now than ever because it's at a community level. we really have to fix a lot of stuff. We saw with the Soji stuff in schools and that.

And that fight back has to be at the street level. Like it has to be at the grassroots level. And it has to send a shock wave up that people are not going to put up with this. Like what Daniel Smith did with, I would, for lack of a better word, parental rights in Alberta. Yeah, we should have some parental rights. Are there some shitty parents? Absolutely. 100%.

There's a law in place to deal with them. but I don't think that having your kids go off to school and being put into an area where they're told, this is a secret you keep from your parents. Because any secret you keep from your parents, I mean, we're on a slippery slope there. And especially with people who are in a, I forget the term, like a guardianship role, which teachers are, guardianship might not be the right word, but the term that's applied to a teacher who's in charge of your kids, that's a dangerous thing to have them having that kind of power. Like just teach math, just teach a little bit of spelling, some geography.

Get my kid. Teach my kid about taxes. Just try that. Give that a whirl. Teach them about, you know, Canada's history. Let's let them be kids. Well, April 27th, S&P presents the Cornerstone Forum, although we're not going to solve all that. I think, you know, if you like what Chuck has to say or any of the speakers, I don't think you'll be disappointed in the day's events.

And it should be, you know, a very interesting day. You know, between here and there, it won't be the last time you're on the podcast because I hope, you know, the military roundtable returns in March. and we'll see if we can't put together that. And then, I mean, again, in April. So there'll be multiple times, I would think, that Chuck will be back on the podcast. We've been aiming about once a month, just like Longo and Craneer.

Yeah, they're good guys. I like their stuff, yeah. Look forward to the event, but look forward to our chats as we continue forward. And thanks for coming in again today. Anytime, Sean. Great being here.