Shaun Newman Podcast - #607 - Peter McCullough

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

He is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist holding degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University. He manages common infectious diseases as well as the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas TX, USA. SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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I don't care what the world throws at us. it's not going to stop me today. I'm having a great day. So let's get on in that tail of the tape, shall we? He's an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, holding degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University.

Of course, I'm talking about Dr. Peter McCullough. So buckle up, here we go. Welcome to the podcast. I'm joined today by Dr. Peter McCullough. So, sir, thanks for hopping on. Man, it's so great to be on the SNP. I'm hoping the snow is melted up there in Canada. That's always the first thing we talk about.

I know it looks like you're in your bunker down there. It's probably last six feet of snow outside. How are you holding up up there? I tell you what, we've had a pretty nice little winter overall. It's pretty, you know, I don't know, is it, it was minus eight here today. So, you know, the snow's almost gone. We're going to, it's snowing outside as me and you were speaking. right now, but by next week, we're back in the pluses.

So I don't know, I got nothing to complain about. Like up here, this is beautiful. You're back on the pluses. I could have running down here in Texas with no shirt yesterday. It was beautiful. And I've been kind of picking up the mileage. Now, what do the Canadians think about Las Vegas winning of Stanley Cup? Oh, we don't want to talk about that.

I was just going to say the Dallas stars are looking pretty good. The Emmington Oilers are looking pretty good. So we'll see what the two teams can do this year. You know, it's been, it's been a while. I was like, when was the last time I had Peter on? And it's well over a year. Is it? Yes, we're going to be six, episode 607.

And the last time I had you on was episode 344. Think about that for a second, folks. That's, that's some times. And, you know, it's a tweet. It's funny. Sometimes I see things come through the Twitter feed. and other times I never see your name ever. And I always find that so random, you know, like with the different levels of censorship and everything else.

But here's what got my attention. I'm like, huh, I should have Peter on to talk about this. And it was, it was something you retweeted. It said the CDC releases paper on myrochiditis after COVID vaccination. And every word is redacted. 148 pages. The entire thing is redacted. What good does a study do if there's nothing there?

And then it had you quoted in there as well as saying, seeing a colossal consumer product safety debacle. Pfizer records recorded 1,223 deaths with their product within 90 days of release. People were calling Pfizer in desperation watching their family members die after taking the vaccine. Peter, I'm just like, if there's going to be a guy to give me some information on what this was about, I'm like, they're still redacting everything? You can't make this up.

I mean, you know, when the CDC is in, is in the business of medical, communications. They have their own journal, the MMWR is lightly peer reviewed, but the CDC teams that they put together, they broadly publish across a whole range of journals. But when they have an internal publication, they have to come out and there's a request for our government agency. It works for us. Largely the CDC works for me, it works for doctors like me, to produce the manuscript. And they redact every single work. I mean, at this point, there is a wholesale loss of trust in the CDC. What do they have to hide in every word of this manuscript being redacted?

It was on vaccine myocarditis. It's obvious the CDC had a lot to hide. The FDA told us in June of 2021, the COVID vaccines cause myocarditis or heart inflammation. We knew before COVID, if there's heart inflammation, if athletes work out and exert themselves, They can have a cardiac arrest. That's the reason why patients with myocarditis before the pandemic, we never let them exercise until we treat the myocarditis. The, you know, the FDA put out this warning. And then in August of 2021, Sean, you know what happened?

All the sports leagues mandated vaccination, including the NFL. Yeah, it's, well, we sit here in 2024. And at times, I feel like, you know, since we last chatted, I'm like, oh, Okay, we're well past all this stuff. But then, of course, you know, being sitting here in Alberta, I thought, you know what, let's just bring up Alberta Health Services because, you know, I know it's sitting there, and I just need to see it from my eyes.

So, Peter, one quick Google. Go to AHS. It says influenza immunization is the best way to protect yourself and the people around you against influenza. COVID-19 immunization is also available. It's safe to receive both the COVID-19 influenza and influenza vaccine at the same time. What say you, Peter, would you be, like, with all the information out right now, the amount of, like, people that have been harmed by this, when, like, I assume Alberta isn't just the random province that still has it as like, it's safe and effective. Please keep doing this.

I assume that isn't a one-off. No, in fact, there's a paper that's just out today, I believe, in JAMA or New England Journal Medicine, and I provided commentary on it for the children's health defense. But listen to this. They looked at Medicare beneficiaries in the United States who took the COVID shot and the influenza shot at the same time, and they looked at a specific outcome, which was stroke, both ischemic and hemorrhagic stroke within 90 days. It turned up there was 11,000 strokes.

And what the authors are trying to say is, well, the strokes are really due to the influenza shot and not the COVID shot. And what I says, listen, when you're healthy enough to go get a vaccine, you better not be having a stroke in the next three months. 11,000 strokes is a huge number that's a huge burden on Medicare recipients. There should be an immediate pause on both the flu vaccine and the COVID vaccine. And in no circumstances should we administer the both together. So the thinking on this is so distorted now.

You've been all over the world. Like I mean, you know, when I've watched your travels, you've testified in a lot of different places. You've even been up to Alberta. That was a sold-out show. You've been all over. What are you seeing? What are you hearing?

Is there any good news? Like, are you seeing good news? Are you like, there's some tough things still coming down the point? No, I'll tell you some good news. You know, I, you know, it was honored to be on the same stage with Tio Florey, you know, Stanley Cup winner, gold medalist. We played for the Calgary Flames for many years. We don't talk about the Calgary Flames on this show. No, I'm kidding.

Well, and then Jamie Sally, who was, again, Olympic gold medals for Canada, both of them, well-known Canadian athletes. I got a chance to get to know them. It's a real honor. We were on the stage. And you know what they both did? They stood up and said, listen, we're athletes, we're Olympians, gold medal winners. These vaccines weren't safe for us. We didn't take them.

And this is really important. You see public figures who, you know, they care about their bodies. You know, they said, listen, we did not take these. That's a really important statement. And, you know, they asked me questions. It was a stage presentation. We had my book, Courage to Face COVID-19. A lot of people wanted to pick up a copy of the book.

It was well-received. I love it. I didn't realize Red Deer is kind of halfway between Calgary and Edmonton. And there you are. And Alberta is, I realized, a province is kind of like Texas, you know, or Colorado. It's got the mountains. and an independent spirit. So it was a great visit, but you're right,

I've been all around the world. People clearly are waking up to something is wrong. So many people now in the world realize the vaccines are not a good idea. And are we starting, like, are you, because you testified in front of politicians, right? Like, are you starting to see it breach the political realm? I, you know, I guess I'm curious

because you know, you go on AHS here, And it's still sitting there. And, you know, I get messages quite frequently of like they're still giving this and saying kids should get it, that pregnant women should get it, that all these people should get it. And so, you know, when you're running around and getting to testify in some of these high profile rooms, like, are politicians starting to get it? Are you seeing like still factions sitting there straight in front of you're like, these people do not get it? No, it's the people who show up get it. The problem is people don't show up anymore. So a lot of times politicians just won't show up to hearings. They're like, you know, I don't want to hear about it.

The same thing with doctors. They won't show up. You know, we're not having grand rounds on vaccine injuries, disabilities, and deaths. The journalists are trying to block all the papers. They're retracting papers that do get accepted. There's a real disconnect between public sentiment and what the public health agencies are doing. I testified in U.S. Congress January 12, 2012, 2024. And I cited a Rasmussen survey out that day, representative population-based survey. 53% of Americans think the vaccines are causing serious side effects leading to large numbers of deaths. 53%. I mean, that should tell you something. We have, you know, our CDC, which grossly overestimates the take rate on these boosters, it has it at about 15%. The reality is it's probably much lower. So, you know, I don't know anybody right now who's taking a shot right now. Now, you know,

I'm obviously in different circles, but I did a Twitter poll in the fall. And at that time, we are on and think about the seventh shot. And I asked a question, does anybody know anybody on the seventh shot? And I was shocked to find out that 9% of people said, yes, I know somebody or I am that person. And then I asked the question, who are you? Who's taking seven shots? And you know, the answer was, Sean? Canadian healthcare workers. No. Yes. What? Yes. A lot of them feel forced into it. You know, they don't like it. I saw a man today in the clinic. He had taken five shots. And, you know, I'm seeing all these complications. So I have to report him to the CDC. So I was entering his vaccine data to the CDC. And I realized his first shot was on December 20th,

2020. So just 10 days after they came out. I mean, this guy was really chomping at the bit. He was in his 70s, but let me tell you, he was thin, he was fit, his exam was great, his heart was good and strong. This guy didn't need a COVID vaccine. And he ends up taking five of them. And his wife basically hauls him in and, you know, things aren't right now. And And now we're starting to do cardiac and neurologic investigations. And another woman brought in five shots. Both legs were filling up with blood clots. In fact, we got ultrasound.

It was horrific what we found. And in cases like this, let's say in the case of the woman with blood clots after five shots, the daughter was really concerned and brought her in to see me. But the son was pushing the shots. And the son was angry that the daughter brought her into see me. So the vaccine is dividing families. Yeah, well, we've seen that since the very beginning, haven't we? The divide in families specifically.

It just, I guess it just blows me away. You know, I guess, you know, I get talking about different things and I go down different trails and different discussions. And, you know, it's been a year since we chat it, you know, and you have kept the pedal down, sir. I assume at your, you know, when you're dealing with people, this has become quite a common theme. Am I wrong in that thought process? It's true. You know, in your circle, as you probably know about the case of Sean Hartman. Do you know about that case? Yeah, he's been, he's been, his,

yes, he's been on the podcast, his father. Yeah. So, um, his father, there's a, another Martin family that's, you know, now they're documentaries being made. Now these are clear cut cases where the vaccine caused death in young people. In this case, one Canadian, one American. I had a chance to meet the Martins when I was in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Yesterday, I was on in Bolden America. Greg Bolden, good guy. He's got a show on the America out-out news platform, as I do. But we had Caleb Pollock on. Have you heard about the story? Yes. Canadian Kayla Polk. Yes. Yeah, so she takes two Pfizer shots. She's okay. But then when she gets the booster, she takes Moderna. And she develops brutal, large segment of the special.

spinal cord transverse myelitis is paralyzed. And she's in a special wheelchair now. And bless her heart, she's trying to manage. The Canadians have done little to help her. The most she ever got a treatment was five days of steroids, nor other attempts on any other product. I went through a whole bunch of series of things to potentially try for this with her. And it was so sad to see. And I was shocked. You know, the most shocking part of the show was do you know if the canadian um health organization offered her aims do you know what aims is i was going to say made made made made made yes yes yes yes medically assistant medical assistance in dying yes we are all about it up here up north peter it's uh we live in la la land uh yes you get injured by the vaccine and it's like well we can

give you a way to die quicker you know this is a young woman, she's got a nine-year-old son and she's in a wheelchair, she's trying to recover. And they offered her assistance in dying essentially euthanasia. And Greg Bolden and I, we just dropped our jaws. We just couldn't believe it, that that's the answer to this is to help her die. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of Canadians share your jaw drop when we heard that story. It's just like, we can't seriously be there. But at times, that's, that's exactly where you are. You look around and there's a lot to be hopeful for, I think.

But at the same time, there is a lot of stories going on in our country right now that are absolutely bizarre. And that is just stacking it on. You know, you bring up different people injured by the vaccine. This was something I'd seen as well. I think it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who, talked about it, but it was, he was saying they knew that they would injure kids. And the first Pfizer trial on children was only 1,300 kids. And I'm going to pronounce this name wrong.

I apologize. Maddie deGerry was one of the 1300. Her and her mom testified in court. Did you see that? Yeah, Maddie deGerry was in the original clinical trial. She suffered a vaccine injury. I think it's on a feeding tube and paralyzed. I mean, it's just an awful situation.

But like that speaks to, you know, and I think back to when you were, well, maybe that's, when did you and John Link come on? That was, that was probably two ago. When you guys were breaking it down and saying, listen, this is really criminal. Like this is really nefarious. To me, that story, like she's one of the 1300 they tested the vaccine on and they listed it as stomach pain. Like they didn't even, they didn't even, like they just kind of, oh, nothing to see here. And yet now we know that how.

serious that was, Peter. Like, doesn't that just, you talk about what the art government's doing, like the, what, what Pfizer did in the trials is, is absolutely. But don't forget, you know, the Pfizer doctors weren't taking care of her directly. There was called site principal investigators. As I recall, she was really blown off. They were saying, listen, oh, nothing's wrong here. She just has some stomach pain. It's just like Caleb Pollock's story. She goes into a suburban Toronto hospital. And she's paralyzed. I mean, she's acutely paralyzed. And their first thought is, well, you're faking it. This is a psychiatric problem. They call the psychiatric consult. Can you believe that? I mean, again, our jaws dropped. Greg Bolden and I looked at each other like, what is going on in Canada? Well, poor leadership is definitely one part of it. You'd mentioned, uh, you'd mentioned, uh, that nobody, how'd you say it?

You said people aren't showing up anymore. I wanted to follow up. I wrote it down because I was like, I better make sure I follow up with that. You know, you've been once again, all over the world in the dark, dark, dark days of COVID, when mandates were in full effect, lockdowns were in full effect, everything was going on.

You probably wouldn't have been welcome in this country. You would have been welcomed by a few, but overall the government probably wouldn't let you cross the border, those type of things. You're saying, if I got this correct, from there to now, the difference is politicians aren't shown up, doctors aren't showing up. When did that start happening? You know, it looked like early on that people just started to withdraw. They pulled back, even when I testified in the U.S. Senate in November 19, 2020, we haven't had broad audiences where people want to hear the truth.

Andrew Brigden in the lower House of Parliament in the UK. first time he gave the mortality statistics he had hundreds of members of parliament walk out they were basically said they didn't want to hear this and so they don't want to hear because sorry i interject they don't want to hear it because they don't believe it they think it's conspiracy you're this is all conspiracy stuff or they the truth really freaking stings and they all were complicit in it and they don't want to go down that road or have you i mean do you even have an answer to that i think it's worse than that I think they all took the shots.

They had their family members take the shots. They encouraged others. They were a part of these laws and mandates in this initiative. And now they're getting the bad news that, A, the shots are resulting in record numbers of injury, disability, and death. And they never worked. They never stopped COVID. And at that point, people are so deep into this psychologically, professionally, socially,

that they can't hear it. They literally, you know, I bring this. up to colleagues. They're like, I can't talk about this. I can't talk about this. And they literally put their hands out. Usually in the United States, we call that the Heisman. You get the Heisman, Sean. People cannot talk about it because they're that deep into it. There is a psychological state that people get it. They can't even recognize death of a loved one. I mean, a good example is Sean Kasten, Democratic Congressman from Illinois. He's pushing the vaccine on social media, say he's going to vax as soon as it's available he's going to vax his kids well sure enough

his kids get vaxed his daughter emily 17 perfectly healthy girl he finds her dead in bed she has an autopsy the doctor said yeah she dies in an arrhythmia and then you know instead of saying wow could this be the vaccine or is it you know this needs investigation you know he gives this very distant type of um you know type of uh statement and just so says, well, we need to enjoy our family members when we have them around, you know, while they're alive. And just, just no remorse, no, you know, no, no shock, no outrage. This is what's happening now. People are dying the vaccine and family members are not outraged. They're not. We had, we had a death of a very prominent minister here in Dallas. And we wrote it up on our

substack and I used to go to that church, I knew this person. And I can tell you, no investigation, no discussion, no one was, no, he died of natural causes. You know, he's 44. He's a runner. He's healthy. Recently I had a woman come to me. She said, Dr. McCullough, my husband died about a year ago and I've just finally come to grips or I need to talk to you about it. So my wife and I met what matter. And she said, listen, I have three daughters. And the story is my husband, who's, I believe in his 40s, perfectly healthy. In the summer of 2021, he's essentially forced to take a vaccine, I think took two Pfizer's, but essentially forced to do it to go on campus to go to work. And he's kind of high up in this company. They're running this company. And this guy never sees a doctor.

He has some vaccine reaction afterwards and he's fine, but never sees a doctor. Even about, I think, you know, a few days before the event, you know, he actually was a fire drill at work. He went up all the stairs, 10 flights of stairs, and, you know, he could do all he's fine. And the bottom line is he gets a viral infection, upper respiratory infection, him and his wife, they get over it in a day or so. He has some residual hoarseness on a Saturday morning, and he's coaching in one of his daughter's basketball games, and he gets really hoarse. So he's with the daughters. The wife goes out to get her nails done, and they're just watching a movie. He's going to be coaching another game in the afternoon, and he's in the living room with the kids laying down. He says, I'm just going to, you know, take a nap. And his daughters look over, and he takes.

turns blue and he stops breathing. And then they try to arouse him. He's just, he's basically dead. And they call the mother. The mother panics. She drives home. They call 911. They start a resuscitation. And he has massive pulmonary hemorrhage. The blood just starts flowing out of them. She says blood's everywhere on the carpet in the living room. The girls are screaming. They're trying to give a reversal agent to clot the blood, trouble getting the airway. And he died. and the long and short is the autopsy shows massive pulmonary hemorrhage. The lungs are filled up with blood. He has some coronary disease that they don't know about, but no acutely blocked vessels.

The heart looks fine. It's not myocarditis. And the medical examiner signs this out of death as natural causes. He died of natural causes, Sean. Since when does a guy your age who's perfectly healthy suddenly die of a pulmonary hemorrhage in front of his daughters. I mean, this is just a horror story. So Nick Holshar, who's going to be a fellow with me, McCullough Foundation next year, Nick from New York City, Michigan, Nick and I wrote it up. We actually have it published now on the preprint server. And we did everything.

We checked the vaccine card. And sure enough, he's got one of the most dangerous batches. We checked everything else. We got the autopsy. His face is caked in blood. It's obvious a guy just was grossly hemorrhaging. The lungs are full. We show all the images. And we said, listen, I testify in Congress, Sean, we've got five to 15 years to worry about people after the last shot. This guy was clearly in the window where the vaccine is the proximate cause of death. When you say five to 10 years, even after the first shot or after the ninth shot or wherever we're at today? Five to 15 years after the last shot. And that's what I've testified to.

So five to 15 years after the last shot we give. Anything that happens in that time period is fair game to consider the vaccine cost it. You know, I was, I was, I just scrolled back through. And I was thinking, you know, the first time I ever had you on, Peter, was episode 195. That was August 18th, 2021. So it hasn't been quite full three years. But I was thinking, you know, you, sir, how? How is this changed you?

Like, you know, I think of where I sit and the conversations I've had over the course since then. And I don't know how you, like, you always amaze me when you come on here and can just rattle off study after study after study. It has been the same way since day one. And so you're reading all this material, it's searing all this stuff,

you're seeing all this heartache as people just, oh yeah it's it's totally normal totally normal totally normal at some point this had to of of really i don't know change your view on the world people i don't know you gotta i'm just curious because it's been almost three years since i initially talked to you back then when we were like you know people are getting sick we got you know it's the super bowl we got to we got to get out there we got there we got this guys like me they got to get out there we got to do this and now i hear you and i'm like This is insane. And you've been living it now for three years.

We're grappling with a mind-blowing reality. This is a mind-blowing reality. We're actually in our fourth year now. I mean, this is absolutely astounding. Everything from, I remember we commented on the Super Bowl. That was the Super Bowl. I think Tom Brady led the Bucs and they let it. They let like a few vaccinated people into the stadium.

I was like, listen, I tell listen, Why don't you let everybody who's recovered from COVID into the stadium? That's what was safe to do. The vaccine wasn't going to play a role. And this was awful. I mean, I remember the season of COVID, if you remember, the Dallas Stars did pretty good. And they were playing the games up in Canada, I think somewhere near you in an arena where all the seats were black. They had covers over them or something.

Do you remember that when they played the Stanley Cup? Yeah, there was nobody in the... I interviewed guys. Peter, I interviewed guys in the bubble. That was in Emmington. Yeah, the bubble. The bubble. Yeah.

I interviewed guys in their hotel room while they were in there. Like, I go back and listen. I'm like, oh, man. And if you remember, it came down to the stars did pretty good. And they kind of ran out of gas and they ran into Tampa Bay. Do you remember that? Yes, I do. And Tampa Bay took out Dallas.

And it turned out they won the next year. two, I think. Didn't they win two and a row? They won back to back years. Yeah. So, you know, sports was disrupted. None of that was necessary at all. Now, if you remember, too, that COVID year, right now our big deal is March Madness. I hope you're playing your bracket right now. You have a bracket? You know, I do, but you know what I know about basketball? Zilch. So it's just like, I'm throwing a dart at the board. I'm like, yeah, sure.

No, you do your research. Listen, March Madness, like half the country plays right now, my bracket is holding up pretty good. I'm in the 92 second percentile. Well, that's because you do your read. You probably read 18 papers on it before we all woke up. But also I'm a graduate of Baylor University and we have been the national champion in the last few years. Our girls have won a couple times. But the year that COVID hit, they actually decided not to have March Madness. There was no. national champion. And when the college season finished before they shut it down, Baylor was the number one men's team. So then the following year was the year that we were back, and I think that was 2021. And then the Baylor men won it all. In fact, we won every game by a good margin. Even Charles Barclay had to say, wow, you know, let's not, you know, it's not going to be Duke or North Carolina or Gonzaga, it's going to be the Baylor Bears, and that was a great year for us. Now, with March Madness, it's obvious, I mean, none of that needed to happen.

We didn't need to shut down the arenas. It was certainly unnecessary to make the athletes take the vaccine. In fact, it was really terrible because athletes are at risk for this myocarditis and cardiac arrest, and there were scores of cardiac arrests and the European soccer players, and this was awful. DeMar Hamlin, Buffalo Bills, had a cardiac arrest right on the field. You know, players all over, it was completely unnecessary to watch that.

Wasn't it assistant coach of Golden State Warriors in the basketball world, right? He died. He died, yeah. Yeah. You know, but I've always, you're a hockey, right? We talk every time you come on, we always joke about the Oilers and the Dallas Stars. Have you watched the NHL with,

any like, like, huh, like I just don't see you don't like, you've seen it happen live in football. You're like, listen, we can argue about everything you want. That to me looked like, you've watched a lot of NFL and you, you tie it all together with everything we got, all the information, DeMar Hamlin looks pretty much like an injury. When you look at, when you watch the NHL, I don't recall. And maybe folks, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm missing one. And by all means, text me. But when you, when you watch the NHL, have you been surprised that there hasn't been anything stick out in that way? Well, I was going to ask you about this. I was well aware. In fact, I looked after years ago, Jerry Fisher, who played for the Detroit Red Wings when I lived

in Detroit. And Jerry actually had a cardiac arrest on the ice. And I remember Dr. Glazier, one of my colleagues, was out there in two seconds and defibrillated Jerry and, you know, all the things that took place afterwards. He never returned to Hong him. The Red Wings took care of them and they did a good job. He's on the scouting team out from Russia. He's from Russia originally. But Jerry had an inherited heart condition called a cardiomyopathy and apical hypertrophic cardiomy with with, but the general principle is when someone has a cardiac arrest, they need

a defibrillator put in. They have to. Even this guy, Uwi Chuchu for USC, he had a cardiac arrest and he actually got a defibrillator. He's back playing basketball. Jamar Hamlin didn't. And so if you notice the Bill's had them in pads, he had some light duty in August. I think he played less than half the games. They let him do this lousy fake punt. I don't know if you watch the Bill's game in the playoffs, but they had a really lousy fake. And they hiked it to Hamlin. It's like, no, that's not going to get. I'm a Bill's fan.

I lived in Buffalo. Like, no. So anyhow, I think the bills, I bet the bills are going to cut him. myself and Michael Goodkin and cardiologist, we wrote the Bill's cardiologist and we wrote the Buffalo evening news. We said, listen, we're watching this. This young kid should not return to the field. He should have a defibrillator. Now, what's of interest is we haven't seen NHL players go down in cardiac arrest. And they have these big bursts of adrenaline. They do, you know, what did they do? Like, you know, two to three minute shifts. And they have the big burst. And we haven't seen this. So what I don't know, Sean, is, is were they mandated to take the vaccine? was the NHL mandated like the other sports teams?

Well, there's only a handful of guys that popped to mind that didn't get it. And Tyler Bertuzzi's one. He played for the Detroit Red Wings at the time. And now he's playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Forgive me, Euler fans. This is terrible. Was it Archibald? There was one here.

And then he was kind of just shuffled away and cut. And so the understanding I had from the NHL was in order to travel. in order to, you know, be across everywhere here in Canada is you had to be vaccinated. Like, I would say that there has to be a – when I stare at the NHL, I'm like, okay, how many people paid to get a fake card so they could just play hockey? How many people actually got the jab? I can't tell you. I have no idea.

But certainly up here in Canada, if you're playing hockey for a Canadian team, and heck, look at all the national sports leagues. Peter. I'd love to sit here and say none of them mandated it, but anyone who stood out and said they weren't getting it was harassed like nobody's business. So I would say they either got it or they got a fake. And I don't know how many, that's just my speculation. I have no idea if that's true or not. But in order to travel in Canada, in order to go across the border, in order to leave the country, you had to be vaccinated. Yeah, well, that's the real unknown variable here is how many people got fake vaccine cards. Sean, did you hear about that doctor in Salt Lake City who gave out a bunch of fake,

he gave a bunch of fake injections of saling, and he dumped the real stuff down the sink and gave him a vaccine card? Do you hear about that guy? I heard a story about this, but I don't know if I've ever actually listened to him talk or like where I stumbled across, says, yes. Has he come out and talked about it, Peter, though? Yeah, he came on our show, John Leak, my partner interview. him and he's an anesthesiologist.

He thought it was kind of morally unethical to inject kids with this genetic shots so he dumped it in the sink. You know what he was charged with? No. His charge was disposal of government property.

Really? Because the vaccines are considered government property. It's like you took a stop sign and you threw it in a dumpster somewhere. So it's not a heavy duty charge. So what did he get, did he get convicted of that? He's in the process and what have you. Tied up in courts.

Right. Are you aware of anybody getting busted with a fake vaccine card in Canada with any consequences? No, not to my knowledge. Yeah, I'm not aware in the United States if anybody getting busted. And so my hope is maybe that, you know, that's what the college kids did. Because we ultimately, after a while, we didn't hear about any tragedies on college campuses. We did early on. We didn't hear about it in the NHO.

But I can tell you, you know who got busted for a fake vaccine card? This was just out in the news. It's pretty serious, too. Is? I think some of the cabinet members or the staff of Bolsonaro, who was the leader down in Brazil. Yeah, it was out. Check it out.

Bolsonaro fake vaccine cards. I was reading the story. I thought he was getting busted, but I think it was actually his. It's funny. How the heck do you get busted? Well, I don't know what their vaccine cards were. I know what the vaccine cards here look like. It was this little tiny piece of paper.

Like you could have drawn it up with a crayon and it would have been done. I know. I know. It's just you think about this is, this is, this is, you know, such an important, such an important program. And, you know, you have credit cards that link to other systems. You got library cards that link to other systems. But now you've got the world's most important vaccine program of all times.

And it's this lousy handwritten card. You can't hardly read it. So here's this story. Being written in crayon. And if you were Canadian and when gotten a vaccine shot in the States, you could come back and say you had it from there too. So you could actually show an American car. Well, I got the shot.

And they're like, oh, well, I guess. And somebody will argue with me towards the end with the electronic one that was coming in and the Vax mandates and everything. certainly that was starting to change. But you could still get somewhere with this little, you know, cartoon card with a little bit of chicken scratch on it. Yeah. So here it is.

Here's the story. It's up on PBS News Hour from March 19th. Former Brazilian President Jare Bolsonaro formally accused Tuesday of falsifying his COVID-19 vaccine data, marking the first indictment for the embattled far-right leader. It says federal police. indictment released by the Supreme Court alleged Bolsonaro and 16 others inserted false information to a new public health database to make it appear as if the then

president and his 12-year-old daughter and several others in his circle received the COVID-19 vaccine so someone did get busted now he's out of out of office right now but you know you you can't make this up people were trying to protect themselves I know the vaccines have led to massive injuries, disabilities, and deaths. And, you know, I've called for the vaccines to be removed off the market. Follow Mary Talley Bowden on Twitter. Every day she updates more and more leaders elected in those running for offices in the United States. We should probably do the same in Canada, who are now calling for the vaccines to be removed off the market. And that's what we need. We need this big public call. We're coming towards the end. Just any final

questions? No, I appreciate you doing this and I ran you over time. He said, can we go for 35 minutes? And I'm like, yeah, I'll have you out of here in 34 and a half. And then he, you know, then he, then he squeezes in one last story. And I'm like, well, that's going to, that's going to tack it on. Either way, no, Peter, I appreciate you giving me time. All right. Today, we won't, we won't let it go another year without having you back on. We'll ask, we'll try and put a pencily in for a little ways down the road. Either way, thanks for hopping on and doing this. And look, forward to the next time.