Shaun Newman Podcast - #608 - Blue Collar Roundtable 3.0

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

In this edition of the Guardian Blue Collar Roundtable I’m joined by the old boys Harold Stephan (68), Brian Southgate (70) and Keith Wells (64). All have worked with their hands and been in the blue collar world for most of their lives. We get into the importance of mentors, faith in their lives and the current government’s lack of leadership.  SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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The old boys joined the third installment of the Guardian Blue Color Roundtable. I'm talking about Harold Stephan, Keith Wells, and Brian Southgate. So buckle up, here we go. Well, welcome to the Sean Numa podcast. Today I'm joined by Harold Steffen, Brian Southgate, Keith Wells, in a blue-collar roundtable, sponsored by Guardian plumbing and heating. And it's an unusual. So for the watcher, there's no video because if I'm going to have all technical problems,

why not have it happen back-to-back days? And that's just, I got tired of it. So I pulled the cameras out. The old boys decided that that was okay. And so we're going to have a little bit. bit of fun here. The idea for this roundtable was essentially the old boys, and I don't mean that you feel old. I just mean you're a lot older than I am. And anyone that's been on the podcast yet when it comes to a blue-collar roundtable, obviously Harold, your son's been a part of one.

And then last month, it was Quick Dick McDick and Chase Barber and the crackpot farmer. So on here, we can go wherever you guys want to go. That's the whole point of these roundtables to try and give the blue-collar man a little bit more of a voice and just see. you know where where the conversation leads us I was chuckling because you know like here I'm waiting you know I'm like none of these like obviously Keith and Harold know each other but Brian being implant into this and and then Keith being in the last minute call up last night I'm like well I better let them feel comfortable in here before we get rolling that all being said what I want to do to start is I want to go around the around the horn here we'll start with Harold

I just want people to get used to your voice and then a little bit of your background. It doesn't matter how far you want to go. You want to talk for 10 minutes. We got the time. If you want to talk for 2 minutes, 30 seconds, it doesn't matter. Just so people know who you are. And then from there, we'll jump into a whole myriad of things. And please don't feel like it has to come back to me.

You guys were having a lovely conversation. And that can be exactly what this is. I'm just kind of a fly on the wall trying to put different people in this room and see if some magic happens. So we'll start with Harold. Yeah, good morning, Sean. Great to be here. Thank you very much for having us on this morning. It really is an honor.

You know, I've gotten to know you pretty good. My boys love you to bits. And yeah, we've spent some time even the two of us. And it's great to be here. We love your show and you're making an impact as a mentor in your own way. You're encouraging not only the three of us, but you're encouraging those out there in the world to start talking a little bit. And I really appreciate that.

that myself, I love mentoring, I love being, I know that back 40 years ago when I was a drunk and an alcoholic and snort and more car pain than I could afford to buy, but I still found it. And I was a mess. And yeah, I walked away from all that 40 years ago. I got 40 years of being clean and sober. And at that time, I had two kids that I, my wife said, how are they ever going to have a life? And yeah, today we have six kids, all married, normal, beautiful marriages. We have 25 grandkids, and we get to be a part of people like you and the people sitting here today. Well, and my fun story before I move over to Brian is someday I hope my kids go back.

Now you're like episode 6, oh something. I don't know where we're at, but there'll be quite a bit of content. But behind closed doors, I tell a story about Harold, when we were first starting up the men's group, that's how I knew this bulletproof coffee was probably coming today. When we first started up, it was like we met. in your old shop right off of Highway 17 and for the people who aren't in Lloyd, that probably means nothing for the people in Lloyd. You know what I'm talking about.

And it was this really weird experience where it was Dustin, myself, Blaine, and Joey. We met and we were talking about this men's group I do. Hey, this is what we're going to do this. We're going to do. And I'm walking out. And Harold goes, Sean, can I talk to him? Yeah, sure, whatever. And you proceeded to ask if you could pray for me and that there was a war going on for my soul

and a whole bunch of things. And I remember being like, that was maybe the strange. thing I've ever been a part of. And then, and then as time has gone on, I'm like, that may have been the most important thing to happen, uh, to have you do that. So I've, uh, I've told that story lots behind closed doors and to be able to share it across from you today. Um, and have you in here. Um, honestly, it's, it's, it's, it's an honor to have you sit across my Harold. Well, it's great to be here too, Sean. You're a fine son. I kind of like to draw younger guys in as a son because, um, that's how I'm going to treat you.

Brian Yeah, Brian Seltzkeen. Good morning, Sean and Harold. Keith. Boy, me and names, I talk for so many. I need to put name tags on everybody. I taught so many years to try to learn all the names of your students. Within the first couple days, it was tough.

So, yeah, I was not a mode of tech for years. I started working on vehicles when I was 15 and kept on it. Worked for GM dealerships across Saskatchewan for quite. a while, then I taught it. Kelsey, Syas, that's Polytechnique, whatever you want to call it, had the opportunities to teach over in Africa for a while as well, teaching automotive instructors, and when you say mentoring, that's basically what it became. And I still have students today that will call me up. We've got a problem with the vehicle. What do you think we got? If we can't fix it, can you come and help us? And I say, sure, anytime. I work with my boy in Calgary a lot

at Chestermere, that is Restoration Shire. My wife and I still live in Saskatoon, and we try to split our time and keep it civil. Sometimes I maybe stay away a little too long, but like I say, it's wherever the work takes me, I go, and Deb really enjoys it. She comes with me a lot of times. We both drive classic cars. I've got a 1953 Triumph TR2. She's got a 1952 Henry J, which is a rare car made by the Kaiser Fraser Company. Is it sad that I don't know either of those cars?

Well, the Triumph, you would know. I can show you picks. We have pictures. It shows my car history of what you took. We're going to have to take a look at some pictures is what we're going to have to do. And then did you bring it this way? Not today. No, the Triumph, TRU, it's an open car.

Basically, there's no windows in it. You pull a roof up on top. It keeps the range of coming down, but it doesn't keep them coming inside. The Henry J is a compact car made by the Kaiser Fraser Company in the 50s for 51 to 54 only. And a lot of guys use it in drag racing because it's very light. Actually that was where I got my very first car is the Henry J and I built it as a drag car. And it would run a 12 second quarter mile all day long. So but I still have that one but it's sitting in the trailer right now waiting to get time to fix on it between customers.

so but that's that's where I come from I the wife and I also attend a church up in North Battleford our Saskatoon I mean we came from North Battleford originally and we attend a church in Saskatoon and we also when I'm here I go to a church with Aine as well at same time so we kind to keep back and forth I put a lot of miles on a year I'll tell you yeah so but glad to be here Well, and thanks. Zane texts me back and forth, Brian's son, pretty much daily. So I showed up to Zane for suggesting you and giving me your entire, like, career history of like, this is why he needs to come on. So happy to have you in studio.

And thanks for making the trip out. Keith. Hey, I'm glad to be here, too. I guess you got to watch who your friends are. Sometimes they get you into all sorts of things. I'm curious. What was the call like last night? I don't want to was my first response.

I probably, anyways. So. But you gotta tell them the end of it, we could be in jail by morning. Yeah. Well, I listened to the two hour one with Joey and those other two guys there. And I'm like, well, if we get into all this stuff, we, anyways. Anyway. Isn't that the state, isn't that the state of the world where you could be in jail for just talking on a radio show?

Yes. I get it. But what's your background, Keith? Where are you from and all that good stuff? Yeah, I was born and raised just south of town here 40 minutes. And, yeah, I was blessed to be born into a Christian family and attended a terrific church in Nielberg. And I think the biggest thing all through my mentor E, life was just terrific people. We had terrific people in that church and terrific people in the community.

and everywhere we went. And then I moved to Lloyd and grade 1011 and a great church with incredible people. And then I started working at a service station. And then a guy hired me to wash parts and stuff for big trucks. And then I started dating his daughter. And then I married her. And I said yes the second time and took over the business. and I've run a business and been a partner in a business now for 30-some years.

And Lloyd Minster's been good and had three kids. Got seven grandkids and they're spread out from Edmonton to Toronto to Denver and keeps us busy just being so that the kids know who we are. Like that's the big thing. I, um, it, that's, that's our world right now is just being parts of their lives and, and being, you know, who they want to talk to on the phone every night. That's the thing. And today in the, in the, in the old boys round table, you're the young one. I mean, I am definitely the young one, but, uh, sitting around this table, you're the young one. I didn't think you probably were

signing up for the call last night. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Jail. Okay, maybe not. But, okay. Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, by the way, you'll be the young one. I don't know. Okay, before we start, I want to make sure I do this before we go any further. So one of the things for coming in studio is teamed up with Silver Gold Bowl for the year of 2024. And so everybody gets a one ounce silver coin for coming in. It's kind of my, I don't know, tip of the cap for anyone willing to come in and share their thoughts and be in studio. And I love in person more than anything under the sun. It's so much better. than doing it virtually and trying.

It opens up the world, but it's not the same as having somebody in person. And when I had Silver Gold Bull come on late last year, we talked about what we could do to make, you know, more, you know, like enticing, if you would. So most people don't know what's coming, but as a show of appreciation, it's a silver coin. So thanks for making the time and the trip, you know, for coming into the studio and doing this. Have any of you got silver buried away under? We're not going to talk about that. Silver is a good one to hang on to, I'll tell you.

I have a little bit, a touch of gold, but, boy, silver is the one to hang on to. So in the podcast with Joey, we're going to investigate collidal silver, so now's your chance. Although we only have like four hours, right? Yeah. I just got one quick story and that's it and then you'll know it all. 21 years ago, my wife was diagnosed with serious cancer. I want to just say a little word. I got the greatest wife on the face of the earth.

She got me kicked out of high school. She was so cute, I couldn't learn nothing in school. The principal called me in the office, said, Stefan, you're going nowhere. If you'll leave the school today, pack your bags and never come back. I'll give you a grade 10. I needed a grade 10 to get into Kelsey. And I had a 67 Mustang sitting in the parking lot and I tell you, I was a vapor trail. But at 21 years ago, my wife got cancer, breast cancer, and it didn't look great.

She had the operation. And she, after that, we had appointment to go to the cancer clinic. And I'll tell you, her and I did a lot of talking. My wife researches everything. There's nothing out there that she doesn't research, and she researched this well. We went to a cancer clinic, this really nice 30-some-year-old Oriental girl, Asian girl. She told us what was going to happen, what each session was going to be like. It was going to take four to six months to get it all done.

And after she was all done, my wife nicely said to her, well, thank you for your time. But I'm leaving here today and I'm never coming back. And she went from being a beautiful little Asian girl to a who I tell you don't want to say, but she was not a nice person after that. She said, you have to come back? My wife said, I don't have to come back and listen. We walked out that door. And today, 21 years later, and my wife's healthier.

and she's ever been strong and a champion for being healthy and well. And I'll tell you if you need any information, that girl can tell you. And she's just championed how the health of our family is. We're all in better shape today because of that. And we learned about clodal silver back then. I was on antibiotics when I was four. I had a kidney disease called Bright's disease. It shut down my kidneys.

And Bright's disease, if you look it up, is you're, you can't, nobody recovers from it, they say. I went into the hospital of four. I spent four months in the hospital, four to six months. And then I've been in on about antibiotics ever since. Three to four times a year, tonsils, sinuses. My immune system wasn't great. Well, 21 years ago, when she went through that, we were introduced to colloidal silver.

I tried colloidal silver. I'm one of those guys. I thought, oh, another snake oil salesman thing. I thought, this is bizarre. I said, what next? I am at 21 years with not a drop of antibiotics. My tonsils have never been infected. since. I've had no infections. I have had pneumonia twice since then because I was in a welding

shop and I was doing a lot of welding and grinding and I ended up with pneumonia. But you know what? I doubled up on the silver and yeah. Today I'm going just just what do you do with colloidal silver? Well I just I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, but first tell them like it's 12 parts. Right. It's 12 parts. You know, that's regulated. That's in your stores, you can go to Sangsters or Nutter's, that's what it is. 12 parts per million is the standard, and that's what I make. And I shouldn't say, I do make it because I bought a machine out of a high-tech company out of California because I wanted good because my family, our kids and my children all use

Coil Silver. And so I thought, well, I'm going to provide them with silver and it's kept them all healthy. We're on, my wife and I, I'm 68, and she's 65, and we're on no medical medicine. medication. Medication. So you're spraying it in your mouth then? I spray it in my mouth. If I want to rinse my mouth out, if I ever had to wear a mask back in those fake days,

I would spray the inside and the outside of the mask too. And it's silver. If you look back, military people in most nations were given a parcel of stuff for going to war. And one of the things was a silver coin and a one ounce silver coin, like you gave us right now. And that was there to put in their water and their milk or anything to preserve it and keep it clean. So they wouldn't get sick. Silver is a phenomenal thing. Royalty in the past always used silver.

They were called blue bloods because it turned their blood blue, but they're always healthy. They ate off a silver, everything. But they probably were taking more than 12 parts per mil. Right, but they're taking more than 12 parts from them. So anyway, I got 21 years in with no antibiotics and I'm on no medical pharmaceutical stuff at all. And so anyway, I'm just saying that's what our family does. What anybody else does is up to them, but we have found this is a real blessing to our family. and it's yeah it's it's great so there's my little pitch on colloidal silver.

I have a bottle of collidal silver that you gave me sitting on my bedside table. It's more of a paperweight at this point, but now I'm going to wake up and spray it in the old mouth and see if anything changes, right? I didn't realize all the all the properties of that. Oh, there's no end to it. It really is no into it. You could do a whole show on that. Yeah, you could do a whole show on that. Easily, yeah.

Well, the three of you have, thanks for that. You know, anytime I give away a piece of silver in your brain, I'm like, I wonder if any of any of any, but he collects, obviously, and then most of them that do are like, yeah, we, yeah, no, we're not going to talk about it. But I've never seen that coming. So thanks for sharing that. Well, if you look on this. Open up some doors.

Yeah, on this, it's 99.99% silver. That's how pure it is. That's the pure as you can get. Now, when I looked at it immediately, I thought we got here three to four thousand gallons of pure clueled silver. That's what I was thinking. So there you go, folks. As you're preparing for the end of the world, you know, and you're wondering what you need,

A little bit of silver will go a long way. A long, long way. You bet you. Wow. Now, the three of you, how do you move on from that? Three of you've been talking about mentorship. You haven't heard nothing yet. Three of you've been talking about mentorship, you know, when I asked, you know, like,

one of the things I try and do when I bring a group of guys in, or women for that matter, is like, what's heavy on your heart, you know? That's a thing that Joshua Allen gave me, you know, and I think about that often is, like, what's, what's pulling on you? And the one that came around the bend, you know, as I look at the three guests today, was mentorship. And the importance of that, I don't know, where do you want to begin? And who wants to hop in? Fire away.

Well, it's interesting, you know, every time Harold and I get together, we were just telling stories. We've only known each other for a few years, but our stories are exactly the same and completely different, you know, with his upbringing in the family that his experience and Mike, experience, but we've, we've all, we have this desire to mentor. And it's not even a desire or a mental thing. It's just, it's a desperation that your children and those kids around your children and just all these people that you're part of that you, you help them to understand what was taught to you. I realized at a family reunion a few years ago, go that the wells part of our family is a huge culture of from a logging camp situation so my dad was the youngest of six brothers and there was a girl just older than him a sister he's she's the only one

left now but a few years ago there was just her and dad and then dad's second oldest brother's son was just about the same age. Anyways, they got talking around the campfire about, again, about this logging camp experience. And meanwhile, my nephew's over cutting wood and waxed the axe into his ankle and takes a big chunk off it. Most of the Wells guys are laughing and give him him a bad time. And it all comes from this culture of all these brothers and brother-in-law, all these people that worked at this logging camp six to five, six days a week. you know, there was no room for mercy. Like, you just, you, you, you had to man up to every situation.

There was nobody's going to just give you, you know, you were going to have to deal with what, what you did. And they, and the stories. So I've watched that culture since that time, like six, seven years ago and how it, how it is what we are as, as a family. And, and, uh, you just as soon poke somebody's pain. as, you know, go over there and try to make them feel good. And all these things of just meant of teaching people to stand up and take responsibility.

But it's, but a situation like that designs the culture of your family for years to come. That's, that's my point. Those relationships of those brothers was put into our family, a relationship experienced it. that couldn't be from anything else but living together, existing together, working together, being together, and driving each other crazy together. And so then you put it into church experience where you listen and you hear and you watch and you see. And so then, you know, we always tried to have a crew of kids around our kids. And everywhere we went, we had truck fulls of kids.

And so you try to teach them, you know, this. is the way it's done and and this is right and that's not right and and this is what's going to happen if this is done and so all the way through you just are mentoring you're either being mentored or you are mentoring and and so we just share stories back and forth and it's always interesting how so much we're the same in that you know we have this desperation for our kids and then our grandkids and their friends and their groups of people around them to to stand up, be responsible, be leaders, because you're going to be leaders. Like that's just, there wasn't an option.

And so that's the start. And when you mention that about the kids, I never did mention mine. I had, we got four, three girls, one boy. And now I've got four grandchildren and three boys, one girl. So it kind of. flipped around and when you said your kids being spread around

when we were growing up and our kids were growing up and getting young there were days we'd have up to 20 kids show up at our house each of them are bringing a bunch of their friends home

and Deb always made fresh cookies, fresh bread and so if they knew mom was making cookies for the day the kids came over and those cookies never lasted kids are just gone and

And my one daughter still lives in North Battleford and one in Saskatoon. One's now in, she's in Montana now. She's been in Montana, Oklahoma, Kansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and now back to Montana. She married a Yankee. She was going for a pilot's license out here at Three Hills and met this young. She's short, like 5 foot nothing and 110 pound dripping wet, right? And she was getting picked on down on one of the streets and three hills there and this big strap and boy come by. And you leave her alone.

She's a friend of mine. Well, that was the start of it. And they're still together. And, yeah, they got one little girl, Kylie, and she's a handful, just like her mother was. But they, when you say about mentoring, yeah, a lot of those kids now, even the ones that run around with my grandsons and that. They call my wife, grandma. Like, so it's still, it comes around. Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. It's pretty neat. You don't have to do much. That's good. No, no, you just have to be a person. You just have to just relate to them. Yep. And they know fake.

They know the real thing. Yeah. And that's the thing, you know. And as a mentor, too, you know, I've really taken that on because I really didn't recognize it until later, like Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson and Glenn Beck will tell you, the greatest mentor of all was Jesus Christ. There's your benchmark for a mentor. That's the mentor.

And if you watch him, you'll always be the great at being a mentor. And, you know, I look at when I first walked away from drugs and alcohol before that, like, Keith, I admire you so much and probably you do that. You guys have known and been in churches all your life. You've been into missions and all this stuff. And I didn't know none of that really before, anything like that. And yet once I did walk away from that world of drugs and alcohol and pornography and everything. And my wife and I, I remember right after we walked away from all, we stood and we said,

we're going to do everything we can to raise this family in a home without any of that and show them you can have the time of your life without any of it. And that's what we stood on. And today, you know, I think of Blaine there, he's, you know, I think of the mentors through Jesus, the mentors in my life, you know. You know, I've got adult mentors that have been phenomenal in my life, you know. Dave Reimer out of Winnipeg, south of Winnipeg, he mentored me for a long time. And he just great, my wife, I call her a mentor through Christ in our marriage.

Blaine, our oldest son, a mentor to me through Jesus for our family. He was, you know, maybe I was the dad in the authority, but he was the leader. He's always been a leader and he's a great leader. Yeah, he's, he doesn't ever, hey dad, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, on that, you know, because he'll keep me kind of in check, you know, keep the boundaries, you know. But, and Joey, he's the go-getter and crazy as a cut, whole bear bobcat. And Michael is our gentle giant. He's a phenomenal tradesman too.

And then there's James, who's now a high-tech HVAC also in Abilene, Texas. And then Victory, our baby. And Jackie. Whoa, I got to go back to Jackie. Number two is Jackie, our second oldest daughter. She has got more jam and more clout than a goal. She grew up in town, never was a city girl. She married a farm boy, and they lived on a farm for many years, raised their family.

Now they live in Florida, and she bought a business there. Can you imagine that? A Saskatchewan girl buying a business in Florida. In the last couple years, yes, I can imagine. And they're doing great. And then Victory, our baby Victory, who wasn't supposed to be born, wasn't supposed to to happen. And today, she's a mom about a year ago to her first child. And, you know, I just look at these kids and through mentoring and loving them, our daughter got involved in a cult, Victory

and Jackie. And one of the things that both tell you is, mom and dad, we knew always that you never would stop loving us. And we knew where we could be safe. And yeah, after 14 years in the cult that they were in, and it was deep, they walked out of there. And, yeah, today they're beautiful, beautiful community people and parents and everything. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty heavy. I don't, I'm, I hate to pry, but I'm like, cult.

As a parent, you know, I got, I got three young ones. So when you guys are all laughing about your kids and everything and seeing how they've grown and mentoring them along the way and then the grandkids and everything, I got a, uh, soon to be eight, soon to be seven, soon to be five, right? So that's the stage we're at right now. one of the things I think, you know, as a young parent that I, I, I, I learned from all of you is I'm like, you know, tough times are coming for us all. We brought you, probably all have stories. Harold just shared one that, you know, just briefly that's like, oh, man, that's, I don't

think any, any parent wants their kid to end up in a cult. I don't think that that's something that's, you know, on the docket of things to check off. You know, they got an A on their report card. They scored a goal in last night's game. Oh, and they joined a cult, don't think that's on it. But one of, one of the things I do realize sitting here is like no matter what it is, there are going to be tough days ahead when you're a parent, whether it's with your spouse or whether it's with your children or some outside factors, the external family and everything. Those pressures are going to come for all of us. And so you have to be communicating with your spouse. You have to continue to build and foster that relationship and really grow it. When your daughters are in a cult, was it just

communication cut, like they're not talking to you? Or was it, was it different than that, Harold? And I apologize if I'm, I'm prime. No, no, no, that's okay. No, it's perfectly fine. People need to know. But no, we are fortunate that it didn't quite get to that. It could have. It was borderline some days. But we have an incredible son-in-law, Terry, Terry Brown, who, who did some research after 14 years, he felt something wasn't quite right. And he'd done a little bit of schooling on Cults years and years ago at Briarrest and he knew a little bit about him. Things were at a point where he was getting a little worried. And because up till then he was totally in.

And he did some research on it. And next thing he knew, this is a full blown by the book cult that we're in. If I may, when you say he did a little bit of research, what were the things that really, because who knows, maybe somebody listening to this is in a similar situation. Or heck, maybe at some point I'll walk into something and not not, not. pick up on what it is. What were the little things that he's like, this doesn't feel right? Well, the control. He finally caught on to the control wasn't healthy. You know, none of them could buy a house, none of them could buy a vehicle, nothing.

You could do nothing without permission and guidance by this leader. And he was evil to the core. Is this in Canada? In Saskatoon. Is it still going on? Yeah. There's still 100 people in there. And yeah, it's hard.

And it's called Lamb of God. is just controlled and it's falling apart right now. That I know. More and more people. Every month are coming out. My daughter, Victory, and Terry and Jackie are all there. They mentor and help these people as they come out because they know nothing. They don't know how to do anything.

They don't know how to live life. And it's been hard. But we had my son-in-law, Terry, he found out. And he phoned one night and says, we're out. We're coming out with mom and dad. Would you come and stay with us? Because his parents were in it. And still are.

And so he wanted us to be there. And so we were there with them when they came out because they were scared of the feat what would come back. Yet two years later, our daughter, who was still in there, our little one victory, we had to do an intervention, which was we got a guy out of Louisiana, came up here, two trips, very expensive. But he said one thing, he said,

what are you willing to give to get your daughter out of there? And we said, we'll give whatever, anything, everything. He said, okay, that's what do you need? And yeah, he came twice, prepped us. and then we did an intervention and it was hard. The first day of the intervention, my daughter comes and she wants to run out on us. And she looks at me and said, Dad, I'm okay. Help me, Dad.

Don't let this happen, Dad. I'm okay, dad. Please help me. And it's the hardest moments of my life was that I had to stand back and let my daughter go through that to realize the truth. And he needed five days. We're in Cochran in a hotel. And we were supposed to be there for a family weekend.

And after the five days, she went back to that. Saskatoon and said, I need time. She spent a week with God and the following Saturday she phones and says, Mom and Dad, come get me. I'm out of here. So it was. It wasn't easy. And it was hard. But you're right, Sean. We're all going to go through stuff in our lives. And it's our faith and our love, what God gives us, what the Lord's sitting us, and are we willing to go the distance for our family? Wow. Yeah, the realization of evil. And the realization that God is powerful above all of that. That's right.

But evil is so real. Yeah. And we just don't give it the, and it's in our hands. It's in our, you know, it's just so accessible and it's so sneaky. And we don't fight against it hard. What's that famous singer right now? She's everybody, all these kids love her. What's her name?

Taylor Swift. Yeah, Taylor Swift. So I heard a pair of her, oh, yeah, she's not so bad. You know, off the stage, she wears sweatpants and she helps some charities. But her ultimate goal is, and she said it, evil is cool. So don't tell me she's out for the best well-being. I got a grandson who likes her a lot, and he's being a little blinded. He's a good young kid.

He's a strong Christian kid. He's a volleyball champ in the States and everything, but he's falling into this deception. and I'm trying to find out what I can do to help as a grandfather, you know, and be a mentor to him. Yeah, my wife does a lot of research, especially on our, late in the here politics, right? So she looks at all those new bills that are getting passed and everything. And when you talked about Taylor Swift, I thought, oh boy,

because there was one, Deb said, she was watching one of the shows or reviews on her and something about the devil's the best or whatever she's saying, in one of her songs that, holy cow, like, this is Taylor Swift. I guess we're not listening to her much. Yeah, you've got to be careful. Yeah, because she does a lot of research that girl. Yeah, that wife's my wife.

And we have to be there. We have to be willing to step in and help our kids, and maybe they're going to be upset sometimes at us, you know, raising six kids. My wife and I, we were just talking about it. Just said, you know, we love the teen years. People say, look out when they get to be teens, but we enjoyed it.

Keith, they'll tell you the stories, too. We always were doing something. We taught our kids to ski right off the bat. Every one of our kids can ride motorcycles, you know, and every one of them are involved in stuff and in ministry. We ride out of semi for five years. We traveled to camps and did outreaches. We did semi.

We had a worship band. We had a stage that came off the side of the sea. We had two big climbing walls built on the front of the semi. And that was what we did for five years. And until our kids started getting married. Well, then the ministry went on to Pocatella, Idaho. It's still running, you know, that truck. but to just keep them involved, keep him involved in priorities and follow Jesus as you go,

and you just can't go wrong. You know, Keith and I, we back our stories and it's fun, isn't it, Keith? Yeah. You know? Well, just out of a desperation to watch them grow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My sons, you know, they're 40 plus and for them to say, Dad, have you got a minute to pray? You know, how cool is that? Yeah. You know, it's great, you know.

Yeah, no, the mentoring is huge in our lives. And I didn't realize what was going to happen to my son's soul. Once I got married, holy macro, things change. You know, the priorities are different. different than, you know, and I wasn't quite ready for that. You know, our boys, we did a lot, we did a lot of bike trips, we did stuff together like crazy. And then once you get married, the Bible's right. They need to cut those ties and cleave to their wives and their husbands. And that's what they did. And they did it well, you know. And, you know, people say, oh, yeah,

every so many of every kid's going to go haywire and you're going to lose them and everything else and all this stuff. Oh, you know what? We have six kids that are very, very powerful champions in their community. communities. Well, I think, so I started talking about this culture of, of this logging camp where these guys are locked their way up at the end of a lake in the mountains and, and they just, you know, they just become something. And then, so God's like, so how do I, how do I change a family culture from being something like this or mix it and make it better? That's probably what his goal is, oh, we'll just invent marriages and mix, mix families together. And it's like, wow, it's so interesting once your kids marry.

Even though, like, they're of the same process and they've been raised in churches, but there's just completely different, whether it's your daughter's husband or your son's wives. It's just another whole culture comes into your family and change. it and and you know it's it's respect and embrace that. Oh yeah it's so interesting. Yeah and watch how the your grand kills kids show up. Yeah and then to watch them and that whole thing and you have to fit in and you have to adjust some of your things but it's not anything everybody, anybody ever talks about when you're in any point is that you have to embrace this other family culture. coming into your family and figure out how to make it amazing.

Yeah. I mean, it's been amazing. And, but we, we've all had to communicate. We've all had to learn and we've all had to have discussion. And so, yeah, it's, it's just another phase of life that, you know, that's just so interesting. When you guys talk about mentors and, and Harold's mentioned a few he had, I was, I was kind of curious, you know, like, um, so. So April 27th, I'm doing an S&P Cornerstone event, bringing in speakers from all over. And then Sunday morning, I'm doing a, I don't know, I'm going to call it a Sunday service

because I don't know what better to call it. But I have the cowboy preacher, Joshua Allen coming. I have Tanner Nadee from around here coming. And Cam Milliken, who most people won't know, but he was the man who said grace before my show in Emmington. and they're going to talk about, you know, as we narrow in on the topic, and I'm going to give them a little bit of room to move, the Bible, Jesus, and how they relate to the cornerstone, right?

And that's going to be the Sunday morning service, which is free to the public if they want to come. And if we pack the house, great. And if 10 people show up, I'll hope the right 10 people. Sorry? What house? That remains to be seen. I believe by the time this releases, it'll be the Kinsman Hall.

And so it's going to be, you know, not a giant house by any stretch, but certainly my first foray into something that I'm very curious about. And the reason I picked those three is in their own ways, they've really been influential in my journey and mentorship of how I've got to where I am, where I'm so freely to sit here and just listen to you three talk about it and not be like, I need to get the heck out of here, right? Like once upon a time, that was definitely there. Mentors come in many different forms. You know, some of us, it was our dad right from the beginning. Others, it was a hockey coach, a business owner, you know, and on and on and on. When you go across the course of your life, does one stick out to you that like you, whether you were on the wrong path or whether you just need a little bit of guidance,

and if there's one that sticks out, what was it that they got your attention? Like what grabbed your attention to make you go, oh, I should maybe. pay attention with this man saying. And yeah, I'd be really curious on that. Yeah. One of those would be the shop foreman when I started as a young 17-year-old in a GM dealership. He says when you're doing things, you've got to make sure it's the best you can do.

And that kept me all the way. Yeah. Do it the best you can do. Just take my shortcuts to make sure it's right. And before I skip past it, like, oh, Was people telling you different before that or nobody had put that level of firmness of like. Yeah, my, my uncles also did that, my, my, my special uncle Norman, you know, which is you learn to do something, you do it a certain way and that make sure it works.

And, uh, but John DeBrilyan was my shop for him and that guy, he got my respect. He was the guy that said, you know, I got to tell you one story about that that really comes through. I got a few speeding tickets. The one time I was going south to the. farm because one of the grain trucks had broken down so I'm going to go out and get the great Sunday morning 7 o'clock so I'm heading out there and of course we're doing almost double the speed limit in a quick hurry and these lights coming up behind me what the heck didn't even think about it being a police car it's 7 30 in the morning they're not out

there right so I just drop a gear and put the hammer down so now I'm going way about the speed limit and so engine doesn't quite work right I got to plug wire up against the header or something. So I'll just throw it in neutral, coast down. I'll fix that, make a way to the farm. I get over to the hill, I stop. I'm just about to get out of the car, and this police car comes over,

and he turns the lights on then. We're in trouble. So he gives me a ticket, says, you've got to go to court because, you know, I do on this speed. So he says to me, you know, I wasn't so mad when I come up behind you. But at 90-mile an hour,

I seen a puff of smoke, and you took off like I'm standing still. That made me mad. So Sunday morning So Monday morning comes around I'm at my stall at the shop This police car comes in the front door And Johnny Drews talking to him

And Johnny says Brian come here This guy says his car had a problem In the high speed chase every day Can you look at it? Well that big tall policeman says This is the kid And Johnny Bruins I figured so he can fix it

So we got his car to do over 125 mile an hour after that maybe do 95 mile an hour flat out before so we got to do about 125 so we're out for road testing that and he's driving at the policeman so get up about 125-126 and he says to me that the cat's like Camaro years now and like an idiot I said no that's when I shift to fourth so anyhow what became of that though I got to tune a lot of police cars after that So doing it right helped. But I still like to drive fast. Yeah.

When I was a teenager, I was done school for the year. And it was June and we were just getting out and maybe a day or two after we got to school and a neighbor came over to our house and wanted to talk to me. And so I came out and here was a neighbor named Jim Hinkston. And Jim Hinkston was our local plumber. he asked me I want a job for the summer and I really needed the job I thought wow my dad was a garbage collector

and up until about then I thought I'm going to be the best garbage collector ever you know my dad kind of watched he did a good job of it my dad could really when he'd collected garbage he'd done a great job he cleaned people's backyards up and he did a good job of it and as a you know 10 12 year old kid helping your dad you just want to be as good as your dad well when jim hinkston come to our yard and asked me if I wanted to come and work from for the summer

I thought, wow, I didn't know I could even rate to be a plumber, you know. And anyway, he offered me a job, a good pay. And I was hesitating to take it because there was a big, big problem. And that was Jim Hinkston was one of the only born-again Christians in our community. And you knew he was a Christian. They were in church every Sunday. They had this weird thing going on once a week called Bible Studies. And it was all weird.

And our whole community thought they are one weird bunch. and we mocked their kids and made fun of them a lot. And yet I ended up taking the job. And I kid you not, Sean, that summer I learned so much about being a tradesman. First thing he did was give me a little notepad, put in my pocket in a pen. And he said, Harold, if you have questions, write them down. And then we'll talk about it at coffee time or on the trip home. And he says, don't ask me crazy questions when customers are around.

That's the time to be working. you talk to me, write your notes, and I'll remind you writing down questions. Keep that note pad handy. And then one day he had me doing some work at the Watcher School. I had a jackhammer up a chunk of cement and exposed some piping that we had to replace and so on. He said, I'm going to go do a couple service calls. I'll be back in about an hour, an hour and a half. He gets back. I'm sitting on my butt outside the school. I had it all done. I couldn't wait to show how I had everything done good. And just like he wanted, well, he was glad with that. But he said, Harold, nobody wants to pay a tradesmen to be sitting on their butt. You grab a shovel, hammer, you do anything you can,

but do not sit around doing nothing. Tradespeople are working people, and that's it. So, you know, he mentored me those years in some pretty good stuff. And when I saw him at meal time stop and put his head down and pray, you know, I thought, wow, you know, you think about that, you know, and he did everything. He never heard a cuss word out of his mouth no matter what. And so I learned a lot from him. And I do credit Jim Hingston for the fact that today I have four sons that are, incredible tradesman. And the mentoring he did just in those two months to help me to, to like that rudder, set my, my destiny, set my life in a path that later on when I got offered a job to be a plumber in Kindersley, yeah, I grabbed it and I had the confidence going to it. And yeah, that's

what I am today. I'm a plumber street metal worker and, and my boys have excelled far beyond what I ever could have hoped them to be. What years were you in Kindersley? Kindersley. I was in Kidderzley from 76 to 96. Right after I left. I was there 75, 76. Oh, yeah.

Who'd you work for? Keller and Cameron. Oh, yeah. Ponyack dealer. You know, to the audience, I hope they get the feel of what McDonald's coffee row or something in the morning would be like. I just sitting here lightly sitting. What hears me there?

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. It's a small world. Yeah. It certainly is. Do you think of a mentor when, um, you look back in life? Or maybe you still have?

Oh my. Well, it's, you know, you never use the words, but it's been a continuous life of mentorship. And I was just thinking as these guys are talking that, uh, you know, my dad wasn't one that, would sit down and write out a list of things that he wanted to teach you and bring out this book or that book or but he you know we you just you worked alongside him he always made the things that were important um available i mean he money we didn't have a lot of money back then the farm survived and we always had food but uh you know we he he He just made it possible to be part of church functions and youth functions.

And like I said, we had so many great people back then. And then, you know, an uncle, I had two uncles lived a mile each direction. And one, they were completely opposite and exactly the same. Two of his brothers that, and so they taught you, you know, you just remember little things that you learned from them and of so many things. But, you know, then you, oh, there's just so many people. If I had to pick one name, Merv Lawn was a big part of Lloyd Minster. He was a schoolteacher and Lloyd Komp and big part of the church.

And he was kind of our youth leader at the time. And he was just one of those guys that he just did. And so you just learned to do. and his desperation to have a place for his kids to be successfully. That was his goal all through we watched. There had to be a great church for his kids to be successful. And there had to be a great high school for his kids to be successful. And then he got involved in a university before his kids got there

because he was desperate that his kids had a place to be successful. And I think that was, you know, he was just always there. And so that's one name. If we want to pick a name out of everybody that ever made a church successful, makes successful people. Anybody that's part of an organization that has successful people in it are all mentors in one way, even though you might not have related to them. But you became something.

because of somebody's desperation to make a great organization, a great life, a great system. So I am, um, I don't normally chime in, but I think of, uh, I've had him on the podcast a long time ago. And I assume he, he understands, but I, who knows, maybe he'll listen this, maybe he won't. But I had a coach back in junior hockey. So I, I played, I played, uh, you know, Now it's U-18, but I played midget back then. And, well, you can see my stature. I was a small little kid defense. And so I got cut and I remember getting told, you know,

if you were four inches taller and different things like that. And it was tough to hear. And when I was done hockey, I was done hockey. I was just like, I'm putting this part of my life away. And I, you know, I went to the bottom of partying and working a job to put a little bit of coin in your pocket. But, you know, when I think back to it, I wasn't really, I didn't have a direction. And on a Friday, my father called and said,

hey, there's this guy, Larry Montoniak. You remember him? And I'm like, yeah, the coach from LaRange. Yeah, he won't see him come play in Dryden, Ontario. I'm like, oh? And he goes, do you want to go? I'm like, yeah, I'll leave Monday morning. And I remember I couldn't believe how quickly,

just a little bit of belief in your ability, how quickly you could change from like, and I'm not sitting here saying I was the, you know, the worst human being on the earth. But I wasn't really, you know, I was, I was working a job showing up most of the time, sober, I would say, you know, like, but we were partying pretty hard. We were going out every night. We were drinking and probably smoking at that time.

I have no idea. I can't remember back then now. But like, it just, I was, I was getting a feel for what independence felt like away from my parents and pushing against things and seeing what it was and of age, right? And then you go to Ontario. and Larry, for those of you who don't know him, he's this big six foot man. And even to this day, built, he runs a gym in Kinderzley, I think, sorry, Larry, I think you're still in Kinnerzley.

And he is like, you know, well, I'll put it to this way. We worked out, we had two different workouts in the morning. Half the group would go, you know, early than the next group would go next and then you'd have hockey practice. You'd show up, he'd already be in there working out. And he'd work out beside you. and then the next group he'd do the same thing, then he'd be on ice. And he won Alan Cups with Thunder Bay back in the day, not because of his skill, because of his work ethic.

And when we got to Ontario, lots of guys hated him. I needed it. He was just like, listen, we don't drink. You get a green light maybe once a month, and when you do that, you leave this town because you're not making a bad image of our hockey team. And for lots of guys, they struggled with that. For me, I needed it. As soon as I embraced it right away. It's like, all right, that's the rules.

I was, you know, let's go. And I wrote a paper about them once in, once in college, just about, you know, there's been lots of, when you talk about mentors, there's lots of people, you know, dad to this day when you're really in trouble or you got something on your mind. I've been blessed with three older brothers, a father, an extensive family, my sister, you know, like I've got this huge resource of people that I can reach out to. And dad's certainly there. but at an 18 year old, 19 year old, when he thinks he knows the world and he's got up by the

tail to have a grown man say, nope, you're not doing that. And then call you on your BS anytime it happened. And so you had to try and live up to that. Like that was, it took me from heading one way. And who knows where that way would have got me to and how long it would have taken the turn the course to taking me and doing a 180 and off you went the other way. And that was just a little belief in a person. And for me, that mentor really changed the trajectory of my life at A pivotal moment, I would say. And those pivotal moments come along quite often, more than we probably think. Yeah, you know, that's just so cool the way you said that because when I was a kid too,

I was, I started farming with my dad. When I was eight years old, he had me on an old tractor and a disc or doing discing and so on, but later on in high school, there was a guy named Grant Smith and he'd always get me to do farming for him. And one day, one of the first times he says to me, Harold, meet me east of town. And he says, I need you to do some summer follow for me. So I met him out there after school or Saturday morning, I think it was. And I get out there and I cannot believe my eyes.

He has got this massive four-wheel drive tractor. He's got a cul-aided behind it. And then he's got a rod wheel behind that and a set of heroes behind that. How old were you? I don't know. I think I must remember about 16 years old. And he says to me, I need you to do this quarter section, get it done near done today. I said, Grant.

I said, I never drove nothing like that before. That's too big. I can't do this. He said, Harold, get the hell up in that tractor. I know you can do it. And I got up in that tractor and I did that whole quarter section. I didn't hit one power pole or ditch or nothing, you know. I did that whole field.

But that guy believed in me so much. He just said, Harold, get up, get the hell up in that tractor and get this done. And that was it. Sometimes when someone tells you that when you believe in you, you make damn sure you do it. Well, you got that right. Yeah. I didn't know to disappoint him, yeah.

I got to tell your story about Zane. When he was between 13 and 14, he went from like the shortest guy in the school

to this guy that weighed 180 pounds and could lift freaking small block Chevys. I mean it. And I got him a 57 Chevlet

I put away for him when he was a year old. And I said, what do you want? Do you want like this Camaro or you want this 50s? I'll take 57.

Shev, okay, let's go get it. Looked at me. So we went up to a friend's place where I'd put it away and we dragged it on the trailer. Oh, wow. He spent from the time he was 13 years old until he was graduating high school. He put the last piece of chrome on that the day he graduated high school. That's what got to be cars. That's something.

You know, to just stick on that for a second, that's forethought. Yep. You think of what we're lacking in our world today. It, to me, I could be wrong on this. Curious your thoughts is like we don't think of two years down the road, let alone, like, you're talking like 15 years down the road. Like that's a pretty cool, that's a cool story. Yeah, we put it away if you ever wanted it. And I had a Camaro, a 73 Camaro sitting in the garage.

I said, you could do that one or you can do the 57. Oh, the Camaro is yours, dad. Where's that 57? Oh, that's. So we hook the trailer on. We drove all the way up to. That's beautiful. Near loose land there and picked it up and put it on the trailer and dragged your home and he started on it.

And what really got him hardened the body work was he had a problem with the roof where it had a dome in it that somebody had whatever done to it. We called my uncle Bruce up, who was a retired body man. And he spent a whole day with Zane. He was from PA. He spent a whole day with Zane working that, heating it, shrinking it, molding it until that roof was perfect. That roof to this day is still perfect. And Zane says, that got me into metalwork. Attention to detail.

Yep. And when I was building the roof, I'd probably just be like, I'll live with a bubble, you know? He's still that way. He's putting the car together for a customer and I think it's fine. No, I still got this much time to finish that perfect. And we're building my wife's 52 Henry J. And I'd spent about three months on it doing what I thought was the finished body work.

You know, he'd come home. I sent him to WioTech down in Wyoming to take body of suspension. He'd come back from that and I told him, well, we got Mumscar ready for paint. He walked into the shop, walked around at once. I think I need about another two months, Dad, before this is ready for paint. Go at her. How long have each of you been married? Oh, I'm putting everybody on the spot.

This may. This may. I wish 50 years, it's me. I wish everybody could have seen that. I should have prepped all the boys before I answered that question. 44 in case you just.

44. 50 in May. 50 in May. 48. And 48. Okay. A, I think that's super cool. What is it about or what can you tell

or what can you distill to younger couples that have helped with your marriage. Because to stay together that long, for three of you to be sitting in here to stay together that long, I think of it is a bit of an anomaly. I'm not saying that it's extremely rare, but the statistics are starting to show the divorce rate,

not slowing down but going up. You know, we just went through a dark time in COVID and mandates and lockdowns and on and on and on. There was tons of people get divorced and walk away from people they love and, you know, and on and on and on it goes. And one of the things, I really admire is the fact that, you know, combined, that's what, 130-some years, maybe a little 140-some

years of marriage knowledge, right? So what is it, what is it that you can say to a younger man about marriage that you're like, this is what's worked for us? Every morning, get up and tell her, good morning, good-looking. Do it every day. Well, I think too that Diane and I spend a lot of time in prayer together. We don't leave the house. I don't leave the house the morning without us holding each other and praying together for each other. Also, I learned something here not long ago from an old cowboy who's been married for 45, 46 years.

Him and his wife did some messages here at our church in town. And something he said to me was so cool that when you're a Christian, if you seek the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is what God left us. and when Jesus went. And that Holy Spirit, if both of you have embraced the Holy Spirit, that Holy Spirit's not different in one than the other. If you both have embraced the Holy Spirit into your lives, that Holy Spirit will keep you together.

That Spirit will help you to be respectful. That Holy Spirit will help you with pride and arrogance and selfishness, all of it. It just so resolves because, you know, I look out for my wife. I look out for her best, well, whatever I do, my decisions are based on what's best for her. you know. Well, last night, I know I had a little bit of a blurp last night. I was heading home last night. And after fasting for a few days, she was putting on a steak supper for me. My wife's an incredible mentor also. And so anyway, I get home last night and the steak is still in the sink. And the barbecue's not burning. And I'm thinking, what? Usually she's got a nice steak and it's ready to put on the plate. You know, it's done just right. I got a sweet potato there and some better. And we sit and have a nice supper. And it's nowhere close. And then I look at my phone,

Oh, Harold, so-and-so called, she needed to talk. So I'm just out talking with her for a bit. I'll be home as quick as I can. You know, I definitely know I'm a priority in her life. But when mentoring comes and somebody needs her, she was willing to drop it. And I had to sit. And so what I did, I just sort of took those stakes out,

started the bar to view and got things going, because I knew when she got home, she's going to be a little bit tired out, eh? So it's just about knowing where you kick in and where you don't and put selfishness aside and be the person that God's calling. you to be, you know. My kids need to see that. My family, everybody, you know, they need to see that God is the glue. God is the strength. And when you do that, your marriage, honestly, we've

married 48 years and we go on road trips and anything. And we have the time of our life. When she's on the back of my Harley, which she's been since she was 16 years old. And she is the best rider ever. When I'm stressed, she can tell it. When I'm in a storm or something, she can tell and she'll massage my back, she'll put her hands on my shoulders and pray for me. And, you know, she just knows me better than I know myself almost, you know. And I could never ask for a better wife and partner. And just, it's great.

Yeah, I would have to say commitment is the word I would use. And it's a big part, bigger part of our lives than, you know, even our face and Christ. is a commitment. You know, you see these young people want proof of this and proof of that. And, you know what? We don't get 100% proof of things in everything in our life. At some point, you just got to make a commitment.

And I believe that's what it is that makes it in life. There's a billion things that come every day and go around it, but a commitment to a life. and so that means like you have to be part of the same things you have to be involved in the same things you have to do the same things you can't be away you can't be a part and I mean people have been married a long time and they are apart but I think that that brings lots of struggles and certainly if you get listening to do different things you know your mindset gets separated and different and there's so many things that can come between.

So you've got to work at it for sure. But, you know, we've enjoyed the same things through most of it. We've had a commitment and a desperation for our kids and now for our grandkids and for those around us. And so, but it's a commitment to something that you've said and you've done. and there's just not an option. So you look for ways to make it better, not ways to bring things in between

and make issues. Yeah, exactly. And certainly Christ is so forgiving to us in every moment and everything. And so, you know, that becomes a part of what you do and how you function. Yeah, trust is the other one too. Like, when I was working, we were living in North Battleford until our kids were done high school,

and I was teaching in Saskatoon yet. So I'd be gone for four days out of a row of five days. I'd leave Monday morning, come back home Friday night. And trust, you know, there's nothing going on. And I got to tell you one story about that, because after we moved to Saskatoon, I was working with my boy in Calgary for a couple weeks over the summer. Is that when you're teaching, you got the whole summer off, right? I said work for him for four or five weeks and then come back home.

Somebody phoned me said, you know, I saw your wife down with this fella down at the restaurant and having lunch and supper and, you know, what's this all about? I said, it's probably one of her friends. Why? You're not worried about it? No, I ain't worried about it. It's real trust, not that phony trust. It's real trust.

Yeah, that's exactly right. She went to Mexico here this last two weeks with two girlfriends of hers. And she says, you know, I'm going to go without you. This is the first time we've been away on a trip without each other. I said, no big deal. Enjoy yourself. I've got a bag of work I get to get done. So when you get back, then we'll spend some time together.

So this is one of the days we actually spent some time together. Drove in here yesterday and stayed with her sister and had a nice meal last night, nice breakfast this morning. And we'll spend some more time this afternoon before we head back. Yeah. I believe that God didn't make a bunch of things. crazy rules. He just stated a whole bunch of facts. Yeah. I think you're right. And if you do this, this happens. Yep. And if you do this, this happens. And if you do this, life will be even more

amazing. Yeah. And so it's just more amazing every day. Exactly. Then he brings along grad and kids. Yeah. Wow. And if you were doing that apart, I can't even imagine that. I can't even imagine. I mean, yeah, so. You know, we were growing up and we got married back in 1976, July 76. Everybody knew my background. They knew Diane and everything. And they said, yeah, that's a marriage that is never going to last.

And they were right. It wasn't going to last. It was right out of the gate. It was heading for destruction. And we often say we're like a massive train wreck. and yet once we surrendered our lives and became Christians, it's like now two of those jet lines behind a jet airplane. Now they've become into cam trails.

Or what are they called? Sorry, sorry, I said that wrong, didn't I? No. But anyway, and we do. We work side by side. And I think the kids my age and my wife's age, the young people, they're not young anymore, they're my age. But a lot of them, I'd say 90% of them,

they've got solid marriages. They're good. together. They're with our high school friends, everything. And I sometimes think they must have thought, if those two can make it, we can make it. Because really, it's amazing. And, you know, growing up, a lot of the people in my, they were broke up and marriages are following or anything, but the kids that young, I keep saying kids, my friends that I grew up with went to school with, majority of them have got really good marriages, I think, or at least they're together, right? And sometimes I wonder, you know, God, you work through us too. And you

help to be an example to train wreck people who can build something and mentor and make a difference in life. Yeah. Am I doing the math, right, that all of you got married when you were 20 years old? Yep. Yep. Yeah. I was a couple months short of.

So you were 19 and change. Sean, my wife was 17. Her dad had to sign a paper to let her get married. But you knew. She turned 18 shortly there after. after, but yeah, we were engaged, my wife was 17, I was 19. Yeah, same thing, yeah. I always, I always, I think about, I laugh at the pastor that did our premarital, he wasn't that old,

but he kept saying, now you realize that love isn't about feelings and I'm 19 years old. And I laugh about that every time I think about it, because at 19, There's just a lot of feelings going on. And if God didn't make us that way, you know? Yeah, we had our first girls just almost a year to the date to get married within a couple of weeks. And then Zane came along two years later and then Anita and then we adopted one. To me that, you know, something that's very different from your lives to today's culture is, you know, and just take, like mom and dad were married at 20 as well, right?

It's very much a cultural thing, I think. Whereas now, like, I was 29, I think. Lots of people are in their early 30s. It's almost like, nope, you need the extra decade to find the person, to get on with it, whatever. And back, I couldn't have wrote the script any better for my life. So I'm not going to argue with it. Just that the three of you have something completely there.

A decade earlier, you've already got a whole brood of kids running. around and that that's a definite change. We need an extra decade with our grandkids. That's the amazing. Yeah, exactly. An extra decade with our kids. Yeah, like my oldest grandchild is 22, 20 to be 23. I think it just turned 23.

The next one is 17, no, 19, 19 now. And then the next one is just turned 10 and then little Scotty just turned 8. How important do you think it is to be around your grandkids? You know, when we're talking mentors. Lots. to have that figure because you all went up against your fathers. You know, I'm sure at times you listened to everything they said, and at other times you were just rebelling against the world.

How important was it to have an older figure that you could be like, Dad's just driving me nuts. And you know, well, he'll do that. You know, I don't know. You three know the playbook on that. But how important has that been? Well, I think of my oldest grandson, Jacob, who's named after my dad and my grandfather.

And him and I rebuilt a car, took an old car that was pretty much a wreck. And we got a goal for his first car. It had a six-speed standard in it. And I don't know if his friends had anything like that, you know. It was a cool little Mazda. Kids these days don't even know what a standard is. And he is so good. And we had a dint in the back of the hatchback.

And he said, how are we ever going to get that out, Grandpa? And so I said, well, let's try this. And so I pulled my suburban up to the back of it. And I hooked a ratchet strap onto it and hooked it into where the dint was. And he said, are you going to get to, you're going to pull back on that now? I said, nope. I made it nice and tight. And I stood on that ratchet strap and I just jumped on a little lightly and that popped right out. Grandpa, that's great. And so we did the alternator. We did a bunch of work on and I remember him

saying to me one day, Grandpa, can we do this every weekend? You know, and today that boy who's 18 years old already has his pilot's license. Oh, sweet. You know, and that's how ambitious and just by building a culture of there's lots in you. You can do this. And seeing dad was amazing at being a McGiver, right? You got you got a problem. You know, I remember we buried the truck. We were out checking, I want to say cows. We might have been building fence. Anyways, we drove down in the ravine, buried the truck. And we're like, you know, miles from home. And then when you get there, what's going to pull you out, the truck? So you're like, okay, what are we going to do? We had a tractor on the other side of the quarter.

And so we walked there. When we go back, I'm going, Dad, we have nothing to pull it up. We have, what are you going to do? Push on it. Like, what do you can do? And he took wire and braided it so that he could hook it on to the back and pull this. Oh, it's just his ingenuity. So now when you walk into a problem, it's like, well, actually we, you know, what do we got to use?

Like you already like, and that come from being, you know, when I hear your stories, I'm like, that came for me. that came from watching Dad do it time and time again where, you know, why do you use what you got? What do we got out here? Let's see what we can figure out and figure it out. And that's a lost skill if you don't see somebody do that. Back in the day, you could boost a vehicle by running the bumpers together and using one cable. Because nothing melted and everything connected. They weren't plastic.

They weren't plastic, right? He could run the bumpers together. You push the bumpers together and then you just need the positive cable. So you could use your tour. Or crowbar. Like if you didn't, if you needed two cables to reach the battery, you just drove the trucks together. Yeah. Who does that?

Yeah. You can't do it. You can't do it. No. Maybe the trailer hitches if you ran them to get. But anyways, that's the wrong. When you get to looking like, you know, fixing a problem. My son-in-law wanted a different engine in this.

He had a 75 scout, which had that international engine, which was like a 10 miles to gallon. We had a 68. You know, and, uh, torque engine. but no speed. So I put a 5.3 out of a 2010 Chevy into what fuel injected with a six speed. But they all said, there's nothing to make that six speed work the Dana transfer case. And that was on Thursday afternoon. And a guy that was a four by four expert to come over.

And there's nothing to do with that. Monday morning he came in, I had the transfer case bolted to the transmission. I took cut off the old output shaft out of the old transmission and built put the two together. on the press and then I put on the lathe and built an adapter with the right bolt pattern on it, put the two together. When I ended up, I had 2000s run out. The old gear had about 22,000s run out when I took it out. I had less than 2,000s's run out when I put it back together.

I finished a vehicle on a Friday and I was going to take it to West Virginia. Went to fill it full of gas and all of a sudden, the oil pressure went away. And this was a 60,000 K motor, it was supposed to, come out of a 60K, probably never had two oil changes in his life. So I had another one sitting in the shed that I had polished, ported, ready to go, like an Ohio put engine. Saturday we pulled that one, the old one out, put that one in, Sunday morning and 3 o'clock, I took off of West Virginia.

And the truck's been on the road ever since. That was seven years, eight years ago. Wow. So you make it work, like you said, there's some way to do it. give me a lathe and some metal, make it happen. Yeah, exactly. No, that's exactly right. You know, just to make things happen and to let your kids see that and watch that, you know.

We're driving our semi and we're, uh, that same we were doing for five years and, and we get to watch our Saskatchezan and we're doing a one week vacation Bible school for the Baptist Church and watch us. And, uh, you know, I'm thinking we're going to get this. This is 600 bucks for a tank of fuel, eh? And the day we're about to leave, the guy comes up to us and says, hey, you guys need some fuel? And I said, yeah, we sure can. He said, well, you pull up to here and we'll fill you up. And they took care.

Fill those tanks right full, eh, fuel. And just for our kids to see that, you know, to watch how God works and prepares, you know. It's absolutely amazing. Blaine, we're at Slave Lake. And we stopped in at the McDonald's on the highway for lunch with the semi and the suburban and a few other vehicles with our team. And we pull in there for supper. And a guy comes up to us, and what are you guys all about?

What's this? You know, our semi had massive murals all over it and everything. And we told them all about it. He said, well, if I pay all your expenses in a hotel room, would you stay the night and do an outdoor concert for us tonight? Sure, we'd love to. Any opportunity you'd do it, eh? And so he did that.

And my son, Blaine, is up there playing my old bass guitar. And a guy comes up to me while we're sitting up, said, hey, is that kid up there? He says, is that his guitar, his bass? I said, no, it's not. Oh, he said, okay. He went and got him a brand new bass. and gave it to them.

Like, you know what? Life, things like that, when God kicks in and does that, you know, like that does nothing but grow their faith. And they know that ultimately, no matter what we go through, God's in charge, and we're going to get through this somehow. That's what my wife keeps telling me. He says, God gave you the ability to do that. You use it.

You use it. That's right. And share it, eh? And that's what you do. That's so good. When you look at the world of today, you boys have been around for some time. And I don't know if you had this one on your bingo card, all the different things that are going on right now. I don't, you know, we can just talk about carbon tax for Pete's sake, but whatever.

When you look at the world today, what do you think we're missing? Like, what do you think society as a whole, or is it Justin Trudeau? Is it the Liberal Party? Is it politics? you've been around and got to see different iterations of politics shift and move and everything else over the course of your lifetimes. I think, Sean, what we're looking at is you're looking at somebody that wants to control us because in the 70s we're told it's going to be an ice age. And then the 80s we're going to run out of gas. And then the 90s, all of a sudden it's global warming.

And then now it's CO2. Well, 0.014% of CO2 change is what humans and all our production is changing. We need more CO2 in the atmosphere to give us better plant growth, not less. But they've all bought into this. Somebody decided that was it. And I don't know why we believe them. Why? What did it come from?

Who decided that that was the problem? Because it's not. All the farmers in the world know that. you want a plant to grow, you pump CO2 into it. Pretty simple. And do they want to get rid of plants? Is that what their object is? Like, who's making these decisions?

Who decides? That's it. Well, we've got a leader that really, he's brought up in a very dysfunctional home. He has no idea about family. He has no idea. He doesn't have an inkling of what love means and caring for others. His life has been a disaster as it continues to be a disaster. And so one guy named Klaus Schwab tells him, you can be a hero, but you've got to do this to your country.

And this is what you'll get out of it. And he's destroying us all because of his relationship with this guy. I'd be the first, if somebody held him down, you know what he needs? He needs a good spanking. He needs a spanking so hard that he won't sit for a week. And I kid you not, he's probably never had that. But that is the most arrogant, insubordinate, out-of-control kid. That's all he is, the kid.

I have a lot of sons and a lot of young men in my life that could go, every one of them could go in a room with him individually. And within five minutes, he'd be out of there with his tail between his legs. Because he just has nothing going for him except the people around him that are doing whatever they're doing to that poor kid. But he's only managed it because he controlled the information. Yeah. And so now, I think for the first time in history, the king doesn't control all the information. and we're seeing some waves in what they've driven us for the last 20 years in this plan. And so for the first time, there's a Sean Newman podcast that at this point has the ability to get out.

And, you know, he's trying to control that too. But it's all about the information that all of our kids have been fed in everything. And so, you know, if we allow the Jordan Peterson's and the. And we allow Christ's words to be spoken and all these things. People are going to, it's going to be a hard move to turn them around again. But with the power of some different information, they're not going to be able to do this. And that's what we're seeing happening. But they're desperate.

And it's evil. They're so evil that they're so evil that they. are desperate and they're not just going to say okay you're right we were wrong no that's not what it's about they're so deep they're so far um into the the cruelest of animals would never mutilate their own children yeah you know they would never do what he's allowed to be done to our children instead of educating and helping them now the people who want to educate and help them are condemned and put in jail but instead they and why do they want to mutilate them it's all for money. There's no good in it. Those children are going to be a medication all their lives.

They're going to be in counseling all their lives. There is nothing positive about it whatsoever. Well, from money. From food to the climate light, everything, yeah, everything. It's just they've, they've controlled it all for just about long enough, but by the grace of God and some strong people, I believe that, uh, well, you give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves. We took a quick little break and we were talking about Justin Trudeau and the state of politics and everything else. When you're looking at the near future, you know, are you hopeful then? Or are you the state of where we're at and the things going on in society? Are you, where are you boys at?

Well, I'm not as hopeful as maybe a person should be because I see what's happening and what's being planned and everything. Everything is so obvious what's going on. Back in 1963 or 62, my brother put me on a pedal bike from our farm and rolled me the five miles into our community. And I got into a lineup in town and a prime minister of Canada came up. And he says, Harold, how are you today and how's your family? And I'll tell you, that impressed me that that man cared so much that he would come to a little town of Young, Saskatchewan. And he would meet with the people in Young.

And he was caring. and he would never shake hands with anybody unless he knew their name first, eh? And you probably guess who that is, eh? John Defenbaker. Yep. And just really was. He died at his desk for his country.

And you know what? We don't got a leadership like that right now or foresight in the visions that the leaders have. You know, maybe if we get a regime change, things could get better, but the plan isn't looking good right now. So we have to take care, mentor our families, be there, be strong.

That's the biggest thing I think we do is is keep our family strong and our community strong and keep the focus right. Because, and we got a chance to get out and make a difference. We had family in Ottawa. We have family that are protested in Ottawa and all over the world, you know. But we have to make a stand for righteousness. We really do.

Because if we don't, that's telling them, oh, this is easy pickings. Well, with the seven premiers kind of standing up against them this last couple of weeks. Yeah. I wish there was 10. Like, how could you not go against them? this guy like there's he's done nothing right for last eight years hopefully those seven premiers can bring the others along and really help change something we don't know we'll see money talks see yeah um a guy married one of the girls in our church a Sean worked for

Samaritan's purse for lots of years and always had great stories of all the places that Samaritan purse would be the first ones on the ground after disasters and uproars and rebellion and he always said he could see the degradation of or the lessening of Christ's influence in North America but he always showed up where there was desperation and and trouble God would be there before them and so yeah I mean I think information is going to change what these guys are able to do to us in the near future. I think it's definitely a time to reset our own minds and, you know, COVID, I'm sure one of the biggest plans of it was to attack the church and put people against each other.

And so I think that if we're men enough and family enough and people enough to bring that back up and to lift that up and that it's going to make the world stronger for sure. There's no doubt about that. I think that we've, I think we're going to live in the best times ever or Christ's going to come soon. And so either way is a win-win. I truly believe that information is going to be the thing that gets us through this. And that's why you're being successful at doing this because you're bringing the local

guy to talk and the availability of information around the world is there's just been so many lies for a hundred years that they told a vision on television and it's all been wrong so I'm I'm hugely concerned but you know we've got a lot of dehydrated food in our cupboard so And if I could ever get my electrician to finish the plumber's job, I'd have my house looked after. Well, you know, just as you're talking there, Keith, I think about Jesus and the last supper. And something, I did a couple messages on it in the last while and foot washing and all that is a powerful, powerful message there. And Jesus sat down at the meal and the supper with his men. And this is just days before they were going to hang him on a cross.

take him out, you know, these evil people, the leaders of all the churches at that time didn't like the fact that he's attacking their good lifestyles. And he did it all with truth. And truth wasn't working out for them. So there at this last table, he's God, all his disciples around him. And there, he's struggling with them too. They got a lot of attitude problems. You know, he's got one that's going to sell them out. I got a couple there that want to be on the right side and left side of him. And they're arguing back and forth. And some want to know this. And they're all just having a real problem. And they're sitting down. And you had in those days you sat down but there was a pail and a thing at the door to wash your feet off

and nobody usually the lowest of the person there would always take it to say hey come here and I'll wash your feet and they wash each other's feet but nobody did that and they're sitting at the table and Jesus I can see them look around yeah look at these guys they're sewing to themselves you know and he had to get them he had to set them you had to make the standard at that point because you didn't have much time left so what does he do he gets up and he walks the door and grabs that deep bowl of water and he takes off his outer clothes and a towel puts from him and he goes and wash their feet. It blew their minds. They couldn't believe it. Like you got, that's like saying Trudeau, come on, you got a dozen homes here that need full washing, roof to bottom.

Would he ever do that? These houses are dirty. You know, the disciples, their feet were dirty, but today it's our minds and our hearts. Our hearts have gotten hard and our minds are so full and polluted with garbage. And that's what Jesus come to do. Let's clean those hearts and let's clean those minds. And by washing feet, he washed their feet and he set, he brought them all, he reset them all to where they needed to be, to be the disciples and the leaders. Nobody, nobody, nobody ever did what he did with 13 guys ever, 12 guys, and changed the world forever. There's never been anything so phenomenal. Speaking of mentoring. Speaking of mentoring. And that night, washing those feet. And yeah, and it was an incredible move. That's for sure.

Any final thoughts before I let you boys out of here? Well, I got to, in the biker world, you guys, and so I'm called the cross man, and I've been building crosses since I was 18 in Vancouver, living in a little shack. I built a cross out of a coat hanger for some reason. I don't know why. And I've been building them ever since, and I've given them out everywhere, and it's kind of like your silver coin. I'd like you each to have one of these, as a reminder,

how much God loves you because 1 Corinthians 1 18 says the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but to those of us are being saved and I can hear that and every man here it is the power of God and that's power you can rely on you can trust in and you can take it to the bank like my dad used say you can take that to the bank right yep they used to say that my son's what does that mean well I tell you it means you can take it to the bank because it's sure it's a sure thing what did you what did you make the crosses out of like what are these ones They're all made out of horseshoe nails. A biker friend of mine, Larry, he takes and he cuts them and welds them, brazes them together with oxyacetyacetylating every one of them.

Then he polishes them, drills them, and clear-coats them. And they're done very, very well. They take two and a half hours each one of them to make. Then I wrap them. Horseshoe? You know what a horsesho? Horses. Yeah.

Sean was struggling here with something. I know what a horse shoe. I'm trying to look at it. I'm trying to think of a horseshoe nail. Yeah. About that long and it's got a kind of an L on it. It's not a straight, like a nail. Right.

It's got a little L type. So that's what this is? Yeah, yeah. It takes four nails have to be cut and then welded together with copper brazing. And yeah, they started out. Our kids have all made them, everybody and our workers. They used to be kind of flimsy. Now they're very solid.

They have a lifetime warranty, of course, just like the message of the cross. She's a lifetime warranty. But, and then I just want to share with you a little something here. Can I do that, Sean? I've got three pieces of tin here, and I'm a sheet metal worker. I have fabricated tin for many, many years. We had a sheet metal shop in our garage, and the kids had a choice to do dishes with mom or help me with the sheet metal building,

and my wife did dishes a lot alone, because they love being out of the shop working with me, and you know what that's like. Yep. You know, and same with keep there, but I got a piece of tin in front of me here right now, and this piece of tin is about 12 inches by 16 inches, and it's wobbly, flimsy, brand new. And you know what? You think that's kind of a nice looking piece of tin,

but really tell you truth, it's useless. It is absolutely useless, but you can scrape up dirt with it. You can scoop up dirt, makes a good dust pan. And anyway, then what I do is I take it and I put something to it. I put a cross marks through it in a big break, and I put this X through it, and every sheet metal worker in the world calls it the same thing. Do you guys know what that's called?

that's cross-breaking. You take a flimsy, floppy piece of tin with no integrity, and you cross-break it. Now it's got integrity. It's solid. No more wobble, no more wiggle, nothing. And it can be made into something worthwhile. And then what I do is here, this other piece here, it's called an N-cap. I put two folds, one on each side of it, the four sides.

And I can attach this to a duck system so that right there, these registers in here, that's part of the system, the channels, the heat and cool, to where Sean needs it in the Sean podcast room. And anyway, I think of this. I'm working on my work on a bench one day and I look at this and I say, holy crap, that's my life. I used to be this floppy piece of tin, Sean.

This piece of tin that's useless, but I scraped up a lot of dirt and I stood on a lot of bar tables and said a lot of stupid things and I did a lot of things in my life that was not worth a plug nickel. But one day at the foot of the cross, I was broken

cross broken God said now I got a man with some integrity and I can do something with that guy then he surrounded me with good people

a good church the word of God and organizations so that I can now be attached to a system and I can channel the love of God and the saving grace

into the lives that need it and I shared that at drug and alcohol detox centers for many years and that's just kind of how life is if you're willing

to be broken A good horse is good for nothing until it's been broken. Then it becomes a champion. In our lives, if we're not willing to be broken at the foot of the cross, to know what Jesus did, what he shed his blood for and what he did for every one of us, will never be the man that he's called us to be. We'll be a fake imitation and do the best we can. But to be really everything God's made you to be, that's where it's got to start.

Do you ever have days where you're like, you didn't know what you were asking, right? Correct. I'm like, you know, people, you know, like, if you've been listening since day one, which there are those of you, and then those people who came in during COVID, and there's people who left and then came back. And there's just people who showed up today. And you'll be like, oh, this is what the Shawd Newman podcast is. This is not always what the Shaw Newman podcast was. And some days, I'm like, I don't know how I got sitting here. I had no idea. Like, Blue Color Roundtail with some old boys, I'm thinking, you know, probably going to talk some cars, you know.

And, you know, one of the things I prayed right at the start, I just said this on a podcast a couple times ago, so forgive me for repeating it. But I said, you know, just don't make it dull. I would like an adventure. And, oh, I would say, be careful to say those words because you don't know what you're signing up for. And I sit in this room and I'm like, what is going on right now? Like people are going to think, oh, and you've got to do this at the end, Harold. Nope, that was not seen coming by this guy, but that's been the joy of sitting in this chair, the entire gambit of the entire podcast, is, you know, where it's been taken and directed and everything else.

I appreciate you three coming in and doing this. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have. I hope the listener has enjoyed it as much as I have. And it's another installment of the Blue Color Roundtable brought to you by Guardian plumbing and heating. It is the third Stephan to come through the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the, the, the doorway and then of course to have Southgate and Wells, um, uh, join in on this. Uh, it's never a dull moment in here. Um, any other final thoughts from you two before we, we, we close her down for the day.

But we really need to meet two new men and reinforce, you know, what you're thinking about in your life and how things are gone. Super. Um, I didn't realize you were a Harley writer. I also have a Harley. Nice. So does Keith. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's common. My son Tyler says it best.

I just try not to suck. Thanks, gentlemen. Thanks a lot, Sean. Really appreciate you too. And appreciate all of you guys. Great meeting you.