Shaun Newman Podcast - #609 - Matt Ehret

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

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I'm talking about Matt Arrett. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Matt Arrett. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Hey, it was a pleasure. I was just telling you, I had a series of things go on over the course of probably the last two weeks.

One was I interviewed Michael Wagner and we got talking about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and, you know, how it's put up as this document. And it's supposed to be this big, like, bastion of freedom, except actually what it does it open the door for a lot of different things you know uh lord's day act being removed uh abortion laws and and on a whole bunch of different things like that the other thing was is i stumbled on margaret trudeau's interview on 60 minutes and if you've never watched that folks it's only like 15 minutes long like it isn't it isn't a crazy long interview i would suggest watching the entire thing um but you get a sense of like i'm like i didn't know that she was kind of a groupie

and, you know, that she was pretty open about it and had no problem with it. And anyways, it got me thinking, Matt. I'm like, why have I never looked into the Trudeau's? And because it seems like it's a pretty pivotal moment in Canadian history. And it's really sent us on this, you know, teetering towards 2030. It's, you know, it's certainly made up Justin Trudeau and certainly his upbringing. And I thought, well, I don't know. I don't know where you're going to take me on this ride.

but I wanted to start the conversation somehow. So what say you to all that? Yeah, absolutely. No, it is an important master key or a gateway if you want to get it, get at it that way into the broader unspoken history of Canada. Like, what is this weird phenomenon of Pierre Liot Trudeau and his whole his wife, his son? Obviously, it's bizarre. It's a bizarre psychological state to try to get your, you know, you want to try to try to. go into the mindset of somebody a little bit.

Like, how do they feel? How do they think? How do they look at the world? And when you try to do that exercise on Justin Trudeau, it's difficult. It's because he seems to really believe that he's awesome somehow, despite all of the empirical evidence to the contrary of, like, people throwing pies at him and booing at him everywhere he goes. And despite that, he's got this, he's conditioned to only believe in what his

handlers. And, you know, like, he's had a whole life. experience as a little princeling of a demigod creature, a guy who's been sold to Canadians as a demigod, you know, he's been marketed to us. Pierre Liot Trudeau as sort of like this, this more than human superstar. I know my whole family for, as I was growing up, thought of Kiela Trudeau is almost like a Lincoln, an Abraham Lincoln of Canada who kept the nation together and have the, there's so many weird, strange emotional reactions that baby boomers, Canadian baby boomers especially have towards the specter of Pierre

and his son was almost like a divine creature marketed to us. And so his whole life, it seems like he's had these handlers, these flatterers, and he's been taught to believe them, despite what the masses tell him he's terrible at. It doesn't matter. He could be even like you see these pictures of him at the G7 or before that G8 summits. when you know you had world leaders talking with each other and and these embarrassing photographs of like him being like ejected out of the the discussion by other world leaders and he's he's always like trying to look cool standing like seven feet behind them and not allowed in on the in into the

any conversations it's it's funny to look at but it's it's pathetic in another way and again it's really hard to get into that kind of mindset so what you're asking is uh is a useful one um I did a series of books between 2012 and 2019 called The Untold History of Candidates for Books. And part of the challenge I set for myself was to try to make sense of this thing. What you got at is important that a lot of the liberal, the decristianization, the liberal social engineering over the past 40 years was entirely made possible by the specifically, the paradigm shifting policies that were put into motion by Pierre Liot Trudeau and a broader network that managed him because don't think that Pierre Liot Trudeau was in control of his own destiny he was a lot smarter than Justin by a long shot like purely Trudeau was was was really smart

he could be he was trained by Jesuits right he had a discipline of mind a discipline of Cartesian thinking and he could be trusted to go into public debates for example in uncontrolled environments in a hostile environment and do well. He did quite well, whether he was justifying the martial law that he brought into Quebec in 1970 during the October crisis, which he, which was, by the way, for those who don't know, was a was an inside job run by the RCMP in British intelligence, but so, but he had to justify some very, very unconstitutional things, but we didn't have a constitution back then. So it was not that hard, I guess, but he did a what he did a fair job. whereas Justin

no they would not ever have permitted Justin and I'm speaking of his handlers to go into an uncontrolled environment that was unscripted no he just doesn't have it in him it's not there what you've said about the the charter is a big one I mean I've made a point that Canada doesn't have a constitution we've never been we've had fights to to make it happen

But those fights were subverted throughout the last 150 years. In the charter of 1982, it's basically one giant loophole. It's built with so many logical fallacies that categorize different types of humans, whether you're indigenous, whether you're this or that. So there's already this idea that there's a multicultural mosaic that doesn't allow for any type of universality of rights. Because if you're this type of human, if you're this type of Native American, you have these types of rights. If you're another type of Canadian, you have these types of rights.

And then there's loopholes. Like these are only going to be applicable when there's not an emergency. You know, like you have these clauses, statutes built into it. That allows for basically ignoring the whole, you know, idea that there are these rights to begin with. And on top of that, at the very end, it makes a point in the charter of rights and freedoms that this is merely an appendix. to the existing 1867 British North America Act, which when you read that, it becomes even more clear how little of a, how, how lacking of a constitution Canada is because it said, when you read the B&A Act, it says right in the preamble, the first few paragraphs that the, unlike the United States, if you read, if you read the US Constitution, it's very clear that this is a nation that exists for the general welfare, for all. all people now and into posterity. It's a nation whose laws are going to emanate by the consent of the government. It's very clear that the laws and the rights are universal and they're generated

by the consent of the government for the well-being of the people itself, whereas the Canadian B&A Act says that we, at the time it was four provinces, have chosen to confederate in order to further the interests of the British Empire. And that's like the first thing. And then it enshrines things like the Privy Council Office as the governing mechanism constitutionally around which the nation is built, the elected components are going to be baked onto this core principle of a Privy Council Office, a governor general that will be the hand of the hereditary class of Europe inside of the governing structures of Canada. Lieutenant governors in each province that are unelected are going to be installed as well to manage each province. So you have this baked in

already and people have been led to believe Canadians especially that this was replaced by the 1982 charter it wasn't it's still active so there's that to keep in mind and i would say last thing on this point the only viable attempt that we have for a legitimate um constitution is the the deefen baker bill of rights of 1960 6 to 62 that that when you read it is a different philosophy the deacon bill of rights has it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's generating its ideas from the U.S. Constitution and rights are universal. It doesn't matter if you're a First Nations or somebody who came off the boat from Ireland. You are a human being as a Canadian citizen.

You have these universal rights no matter what. And they're not disputable. You can't negotiate with that. That's a fact. So that's good. That you can build on. That's a good foundation. But otherwise, there's not a lot there.

Defenbaker, 1960. Tell me what's going on then, and where does that bill go? Does it just go in the garbage can? No, no, passes. It's law. It has been used in courts for those who understand it. I've spoken to lawyers who have cited that in their defense of people's rights during COVID. It still holds the weight of law.

It's just not used and it's not really taught. I took a criminal law class in university. never came up even once. So there's an effort to, I think, obscure it to not teach people how this thing actually is an active legal. It was supposed to go further. I mean, but what it did,

it did become law. So it is a precedent. And forgive me, maybe you've already said, but what was in it then? Well, it's basically, it enshrines Canadians' rights in a universal fashion. It's a very straightforward document.

One big, big page, kind of like the chart of rights in terms of length. But it's a worthwhile thing to review. I mean, I suggest people just Google it and have a review. Why? I'm, I don't know why I'm struggling on this point. Why have it in 1960 and then 20 years later do another one? I think that partly it was to keep control. Well, you got to look to, I guess, begin to approach a solid understanding of that question. It's important to look at what was, what overthrew Diefenbaker? What took over Canada during that period of 1957 and 1963 while Diefenbaker was prime minister? Something was brewing, which ended up becoming

unleashed in full force in 1963, of which Pierre Liot Trudeau was assigned to play a very big role. And I guess what I'll say about this is, so in my in my fourth volume of the untold history of Canada, it's called, it has a picture of William Lyne McKenzie King and Franklin Roosevelt on the cover. And above them, you have Cecil Rhodes as a ghost image behind William Lyne McKenzie King and Lincoln. And Cecil Rhodes, for those who don't know, plays a very, very big role in understanding how the U.S. Deep State became a dominant force, especially over the dead body of John F. Kennedy, who died in 1963, was murdered by the same operation that was working in Canada to overthrow Deef and Baker, who was also ousted a little bit

later that year through an organized program run by, you know, this writer, Andrew Coyne. he's a really just a terrible terrible mainstream Canadian writer his father was was uh um slipping um Andrew Andrew coin uh anyway but forgetting so his father was the governor of the Bank of Canada at a road scholar and uh during the period of 1957 to 1961 There was an effort to try to cut Canada off of any relationship with the more positive Patriot. James Elliott Coin.

James Coin, thank you. Yes. Yeah, James Coin. So James Coin was part of what was known as the Walter Gordon New Nationalists. So you had people like George Grant, Walter Gordon, who were both tied. Well, they were the founders of Canada's new nationalism along with this fellow named Vincent Massey. Vincent Massey at the time was the Canadian Governor General, the first Canadian born Governor General, but Vincent Massey was also the Canadian head of the Roundtable Movement in Canada.

So in the United States, the branch that was set up in 1921 to be the American branch of the Cecil Rhodes Roundtable Movement was called the Council on Foreign Relations. and that was set up right in the wake of World War I, right after the Versailles Peace Treaty, right when the League of Nations was being set up. The League of Nations was set up by a nest of these followers of Cecil Rhodes under the fellow Lord Milner. Lord Milner at the time was the head of the British Empire's colonies.

And he worked with Lord Balfour, Lord Maccunders and others to set up the League of Nations as the solution to all wars. basically, you know, they're like, well, look, nation states, here's the logic, right? Nation states, if you leave them to their own devices, sovereign nation states will be themselves naturally. They will be thus selfish looking out for only themselves. They will thus want to encroach on the territory of their neighbors. They will thus always create wars. And thus the only solution to wars is get rid of nation states and we'll create this one world government. It'll be this technocratic elite that are scientifically able to manage the war.

and the diminishing resources under a League of Nations. And part of the League of Nations covenant was there'd be one military force. Nations wouldn't control their own military. They wouldn't control their own banking. You'd have, again, experts unelected by the tainted, dirty mobs, you know, of democracy of the world. They don't know what's good for them. So that was the like the elitist garbage logic.

And so the American branch was the CFR, what Hillary Clinton went on to call them the mothership. This is what was always steered by Fabians and Rhodes Scholars. In the Canadian branch, you had what was known as the Canadian Institute for International Affairs. That was what was Vincent Massey, who was trained in Oxford as a young, basically he was a, I think, fourth generation heir to the old, you know, you've heard of the old family compact that William Lyne McKenzie fought against back in 1837. Tell me.

that's the the local oligarchy that was set up in the 1780s who were the the ruling establishment of the the u.s colonies that didn't want to break away from the mother the mothership and they were basically given sanctuary in british territories in what's today canada so these these are the the dominant families that want to stay loyal to the british east india company and the old way of doing things and they were granted a local oligalianianianianianianian company and they were granted a local I was an oligarchical control, kind of like what we did to the Russians in the 1990s. You know, we created a local oligarchy of those who would be loyal to the IMF and the Western banks. They were given billions of dollars worth of assets in Russia. And they became sort of the fifth colonists in Russia.

That's sort of what we had. But ours goes back to the 70s, you know. And so it was a mulk, it was very a shallow gene pool. And it was given this name, the family compact. by William Lyne McKenzie, who led the Upper Canada Rebellion, and Louis Joseph Papineau, who led the lower Canada rebellion in 1837, 38. Unfortunately, those rebellions were short-lived because they were infiltrated by agents of the empire and turn into anarchist Jacobin mobs.

Basically, you know, a lot of the better leaders all got it all got executed afterwards. It didn't work out well. But he was, I think, an honest guy. He was the mayor of Toronto for a period. he admired Ben Franklin and he saw that Canada's failure to accept Ben Franklin's challenge back in the 1770s was a mistake and he was trying to correct that with Papino. So like I said, it didn't work out, but the name stuck. And those families after what was known as the 1840 Union Act that sort of created the first type of constitution for Canada was that 1840 Act of Union, it wasn't a real constitution because it's still. gave ultimate controls to an unelected executive branch and a governor general that still had the

full say and could override anything that the democratic component of the government chose. So it was fake. But that was done as the solution to the rebellions of 183738. And so the idea was, well, we got to give people more of a feeling that they have a democracy, even though they won't have it. We have to accommodate that demand a little bit more, or else we're going to get more of these rebellions. and so that's where Lord Durham came into Canada said, okay, let's do something called responsible government.

We'll tell Canadians they have to fight for responsible government, meaning that they're always going to stay loyal to a hereditary system of controls overseas, but they will have local control to the degree that they're doing things in a way that's in the benefit of the masters of the British Empire. So to the degree that they're playing ball, playing by the rules, will allow them local controls, but we can take it away from them. So that's part of, and I'm saying all of this the way I'm saying it,

both to answer the question of who is Trudeau, what came in over Defenbaker, what ousted Defenbaker and JFK around that same time, because that's needed, and also to get at the Charter of Rights and Freedoms Fraud. Like, why did they need to do that? I want you to know in your audience to know that this is why I'm not going on tangents.

I'm doing this to create a framework to better zero in on that question, which this has to happen. to understand that of the thing, right? So keep that in mind. So the way the British Empire realized it was going to be necessary to more effectively manage the world, because keep in mind, before the 20th century, there was only one world government, and that was the British Empire. It controlled 25% of the world's surface area. It, you know, the sun never sets on the British Empire. it was understood to be that was the world government that was the center control of the of an

oligarchical elite and they at first they were trying to manage it through brute force you know crush the savages um impose our will onto the masses however that type of of um suffocation of freedoms resulted in periodic uprisings of the people. As we saw in Canada, as we saw many times in India, it's people we hunger for for freedom. It's built into our soul. We, you know, so they began to realize that especially with the 1840 period that they had to give a limited array of freedoms to satisfy the mobs, to satisfy the people so they wouldn't want to fight. And the idea of freedom of of law became, well, we will grant you these freedoms as you can compare the British North America Act, which was a correction because the 1840 Constitution was still active union was still not

satisfying the needs of people to be free. And especially with Lincoln's victory after 1865, there was more of a sense in Canada that, wow, we can do this too. Like, we can actually have for the first time. And there's a lot of Lincoln allies who worked in Canada like Isaac Buchanan, who was at that time the head of what was the liberal party at the time, a major industrialist who was working with many other pro-Lincoln figures in the provinces and in the federal government, that we can now have an independent Canada. We can be our own republic. And that was a big discussion that's been almost wiped out of our history books in the 1860s.

And Papineau, Louis Joseph Papineau and his nephew, Louis Antoine Desol, who is a major leader of Quebec. promoting an engineering, a real citizen culture. They were fighting to do that. And unfortunately, they were wiped out. And by 1867, we were given, you know, something a little bit better, which was our B&A Act to defend the rights of the British Empire. And it looks on the surface similar to the U.S. declaration.

However, and it says, you know, we have, we, we as the British Empire, grant the rights to freedom, to happiness, to the, you know, these things to the Canadians. But the presumpt the fallacy you see is that it's that these rights are presumed to be something that can be given by a hereditary elite and thus implicitly taken away when it is expedient to take them away. So that that's not there in any solid type of law system. There is no such presumption.

The presumption is that we are all created by a creator. We all have inalienable rights because we're in the eyes of God. God is the creator of the laws of the universe, and we are participating and discovering those laws. So we all have those rights, not independent of our class or creed or bloodline or whatever. So that's not there in the British system. The Defenbaker constitution, his approach philosophically, even though he was a monarchist, which is an irony of Defenbaker. He's kind of a mixed bag. He's a confused guy. he was in his in his in his in his mind he was a monarchist but in his heart he was a republican

and you could see that in the fact that and i say republican not from george bush republican but from the standpoint of the idea of a nation a democratic republic as as an idea um which is in his in his world the in his constitution the language is clear that the rights are inalatable they're they're baked into our common humanity that's where the rights come from right not not based on them being given to us or being taken away. So as far as the thing working against him, you got to look at, I brought up the family compact. They didn't go away. After the Lord Durham came up with his report and created the 1840 Act of Union, they didn't

disappear. John Strahan, who is the head of the Anglican and intelligentsia who worked very closely with the leading Jesuits of Quebec who had been here since the 17th century. There was always this Anglican Jesuit control mechanism centered in Quebec that even went on before Britain got control of Quebec. That was part of what was controlling the Quebec establishment and the people. And then it began to work very closely after Britain got control of Quebec with the Anglican High Command, John Strachan, Reverend Strachan, Strachan, I can't pronounce his name. Anyway, he set up what became the University of Ontario of Toronto.

At the time, it was King's College. And that was sort of like a recruitment ground to groom the new generation of the establishment in the 1840s, 50s, 1860s. And they would usually select from among their own children. It remained to be an inbred type of system of family dynamics, not different from Britain or the USA, But, but, um, and so in Canada, you had Vincent Massey, who like I was mentioning, became a leading, first, he was born from the Hart Macy, uh, Saskatchewan, um, farm equipment firm. It was basically a company that produced farm equipment. So that was a heart, heart Macy company. Um, and they had a big monopoly over the construction, the manufacturing of a lot of the, the farm equipment, um, made their fortunes off that, also off of real estate speculation. And so Vincent Massey was discovered in King's College and was sent off to Oxford to be taught directly under Lord Milner. He became a Milner boy. So Milner had a grouping of young men that he groomed starting in South Africa. They were called Milner's kindergarten. People like Lord Lothian

who became the British ambassador to the United States, major figure controlling the growth of Nazism as well within the British establishment. Philip Kerr was his other name, Leo Amory, another globalist who was part of this network was a South African Milner boy from the kindergarten, and they all went on to become leading controllers of the British establishment.

And so Lord Milner, sorry, Vincent Massey became one of these young men and was returned to Canada to set up a branch of the of the roundtable movement. And so that was like I said, the Canadian Institute for International Affairs. The Australia, South Africa, New Zealand had their own branches around that same time in the 1920s. And they would interface with the Privy Council Office. And the Privy Council Office would be sort of the unelected nerve center of control of most of Canadian policy over the last the next hundred years. The deputy ministers who, you know,

each, each member of the, or member of the executive branch who's a cabinet minister has a deputy cabinet minister who is unelected, who is appointed to, to try to manage or control local cabinet ministers. And that's always been the case tied to the privy council office. So by the time that that Defenbaker is gearing up to take control, of Canada, it's probably the only time we've had a populist leader who took control, who was not vetted as an insider within like Ontario, Toronto, Ottawa, Toronto, or Montreal and Quebec. So he came out of the Saskatchewan, Alberta base. That was what brought Defenbaker in it. He didn't like the cosmopolitans and the technocrats of Toronto or Montreal. And so

he came in and he tried to do a bunch of things. He had these big bold visions for like opening up the Arctic for his northern vision, building science cities, you know, opening up mining, opening up roads to resources in the north of Canada. He had a program for in none of it for Frobisher Bay, which is like a nuclear power dome city. He put 70 million dollars into beginning feasibility studies to to build this. He wanted to accelerate. He wanted to accelerate. the can do systems built up by cd how who is in charge of the liberal party for about 15 years before deefen baker and cd so defenbaker and cd baker's conservatives and cd how's liberals in the 30s and the 40s and the 50s they had a lot in common they they all were lovers of progress they they despised the

idea of depopulation they had a they didn't like each other because one you know it's unfortunate it, but one played into, one was a, was a hardcore monarchist and the other one, less so, but whatever. They didn't like each other as people, but they, they, they, they had a lot in common. And, and the oligarchy wanted to make sure that the liberal party and conservative parties were purged of all of those impulses represented by the CDO, CDHOW liberals and the deef and Baker conservatives. So that period from 50, 50, 57 until 63 was a big, a big period of purging of the Liberal Party. C.D. Howard had died in 57.

Those who he was working with, who were the major opponents to Vincent Massey, were known as Laurier liberals. I got actually a quote here. So one of the major points of resistance for the roundtable. movement's control of Canada was located in Wilfred Laurier, who was an admirer of Lincoln. He became prime minister for a sustained period in the 1890s all the way up until 1911. And he had a network of people he worked closely with. William Lyon McKenzie King was one of them, the grandson of the leader of the Upper Canada Rebellion, who was a problematic figure,

but he was a well-intended guy. But he had people like O.D. Skelton, Ernst LePoin, Chubby Powers. These were all high-level Canadian liberals. who understood very well the Wall Street, London Roundtable support for Nazism, for fascism, for eugenics, and they were resisting that in the Canadian system. And C.D. Howe was sort of the last surviving member of that group. So when he was taken down, the Liberal Party went through a purge for five years. There were these different meetings overseen by people like Walter Gordon, George Grant. You know, like I was mentioning these names earlier, is the founders of the new nationalism.

That burst onto the scene in 1863. George Grant was a Rhodes Scholar himself, the grandson of George Parkins, the guy who inspired Lord Milner to become an imperialist in Oxford in the 1880s, who wrote Imperial Union in 1892. That was a Canadian, former head of Upper Canada College, who was sent into Oxford to inspire Cecil Rhodes, he lectured to. So it was a Canadian who inspired a big chunk of the roundtable movement, ironically. And he was the grandfather of George Grant. George Grant worked with Vincent Massey on a Royal Commission on the Arts and Humanities, which was the first of a series of royal commissions that Vincent Massey oversaw to rid Canada of American influence.

And here I'm not talking about the American Empire influence that did so much damage under Vietnam and 9-11. And I don't mean that. I mean the thing that JFK represented. That better America had a lot of influence for obvious reasons across the population who was inspired by the U.S. example and wanted more of that for ourselves, more nation building, like nation building from the standpoint of building infrastructure, more freedoms. This is what inspired Defenbaker on his campaigns when he was studying the writings of Lincoln, of FDR.

So that's what Defenbaker was inspired by. And Vincent Massey set up the Royal Committee. with this Satanist in Quebec, who was an early controller of Pierre Liet Trudeau by the name of George Henri Leveque. And it was called the Leveque Massey Commission of 1947. And this commission essentially created the National Council of Arts. It basically created Canadian Broadcasting Corporation to try to centralize control of the arts humanities letters who would fund how the Canadian government would begin to fund his uh historians historical

narratives and uh at a big chunk of what they were doing was was taking federal control over something that had formerly been under the the main financing of the Rockefeller foundation the Carnegie Foundation who were the primary sponsors of the arts of the humanities of the letters of the schools a lot of that money the majority I would say even of that money in Canada was ironically coming from American philanthropic organizations. So the burden of funding these things was basically moved from them. And they were basically front groups for the CIA. That's why the CIA was funding so much of the arts and letters in the Cold War.

Things like modern art, abstract art, people think, oh, that stuff just, it arose naturally because people just started liking abstract art. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Look at where the CIA was funding abstract art in a lot of these things. It was during the Cold War that they poured hundreds of millions of dollars into creating an artificial market because there was a social engineering objective behind a lot of that. And that's what Vincent Massey was doing with Georges-en-Révalétt. Vincent Massey then also calls for creating a local honors system.

Sort of the order of Canada was created out of that. He starts promoting the idea to give Canadians an image that they have more independence than they actually do. by allowing for the for example um canadians to become their own governor generals which is why he became the first governor general he it's part of what he called for but it was all like a magic trick it was to give people the perception of freedom without the reality of the thing because he was he was always a milner boy he was always controlled by the roundtable operation that he was devoted to he was a he wasn't canadian in that sense he was also for a period the head of the liberal party the president of the liberal party And so he worked with one of his assistants was this road scholar named George Grant, who wrote a series of books that gave rise to the new nationalism of the 60s.

That's what Pierre Liot Trudeau was assigned to be the leader of. George Walter Lockhart Gordon, who is the head of one of the biggest accounting firms, Clarkson Gordon, was the chairman of the Canadian, the Royal Institute for Canadian. The Canadian Institute for International Affairs, that's the roundtable. He was the executive chairman of that. He became the president of the privy council office as well under Lester B. Pearson. He was also a co-founder of the new nationalism. And that part of the new nationalism was like this idea of marketing. We need to take the new innovations of Freudian analysis that they had been doing to promote a consumer society.

you know, using things like, you know, Mark, yeah, there's basically Freudian techniques of mass manipulation that had been used pretty well over the years. Edward Bernays was a nephew of Freud. And they wanted to take a lot of these techniques that were done to convince people that, you know, World War I was about freedom instead of about geopolitics. And they basically applied that now to creating a new Canada. So they gave us a new Canadian flag. As soon as they ousted Defenbaker and the Liberal Party was per.

of the pro-development liberals on the federal level. This was overseen by Walter Gordon. Then they said, well, let's create a new flag. We'll give them a flag that doesn't have any reference to the British control, which is what the Canadian flag before 1963 had the British, you know, the British UK emblem on it, kind of like Australia does today. So they're like, well, let's do a maple leaf. What does it mean?

It doesn't mean anything. But we'll give them a maple leaf. It'll make them feel warm and fuzzy inside. and we'll also sanction a national anthem. It'll make them feel good. And they won't want to follow the JFK American type of inspiration. Just give them that sense. So Defenbaker was cleaned out.

A whole dispute was created with one of Walter Gordon's followers, James Coyne, who was the governor of the Bank of Canada, who was sabotaging Defenbaker's plan for the Arctic. Remember I was mentioning Defenbaker had an Arctic. vision strategy. So that needed the collaboration of the Bank of Canada to provide the credit for the development of the investments that would be these massive mega projects. So James Coyne was a believer in Gordon's tight money policy saying that, no, no, there's an economic recession going on in 1957. So what we're going to do is we're going to do tight money. We're going to constrict

the money supply. We're going to raise interest rates, make it harder to loan. And there was a big fight. Because what Defenbaker needed, ironically, what anybody needs to heal from a recession is creating real wealth. You've got to build the real economy, create real jobs if you're going to heal from a recession. That's the way it's always worked. So Defenbaker went to war with this guy, ended up firing him. It's the only time a governor of the Bank of Canada was ever fired. And the guy, James Coyne, ended up working with the Prid Council collaborators to artificially create a scandal. saying I've been threatened. He gave a press conference after being fired saying I was threatened by

Diefenbaker and he created this whole scandal and it was covered by all the mainstream press across Canada making Diefenbaker seem like this evil bully out trying to destroy the noble, you know, technocrats of the Bank of Canada who just care about Canadian freedoms and not being consumed by the United States economy. And it dried Diefenbaker up. It was sort of like a Russia gate for Trump. It put Defenbaker's hands in a bind. He couldn't do much with this scandal, like always every morning waking up, you know, as this thing. And he couldn't get control of the Bank of Canada. And he tried.

He had a whole policy to create these, he wrote about it in his biography to create these conversion bonds to take maturing victory bonds of World War II that were maturing and turn them into victory bonds for. for the Arctic for developing so that every Canadian could have a personal investment in the success of their nation by opening up the Arctic as the new frontier that was again sabotaged and so by 63 when JFK is murdered and Diefenbaker's out the new liberals are brought in just purely at Trudeau has now moved from becoming an NDP formerly his job was was as a leading figure within the technocratic takeover of Quebec, which happened in 6061. When the conservative government of the National Union Party was overthrown, that was sort of the Christian government of the time.

They were overthrown. It was called the silent revolution. The guy who oversaw that overthrow was the name I just mentioned earlier. Georges-Henrique. He was a nominally, I think he was a Dominican or maybe he was a French. Yeah, I think he was a Dominican priest, but he was the father of Quebec sociology who brought in the theories of Aldous Huxley, Bertrand Russell, into Quebec. And he taught in the University of Laval, which was sort of the central command for the technocratic takeover of Quebec. And he had a little think tank that he ran, which was staffed by Rhodes Scholars.

Guerin-Lajouis, who was a Rhodes Scholar of Quebec, became the head of the Quebec Educational Ministry of Education, worked with Pierre Liet Trudeau in 1959, 6061, in that Institute for the Study of Science of Public Policy, overseen by Father Leveque. And basically, they organized all of these nihilistic existentialist, baby boomer intellectuals into becoming weapons against. the church. And that was what Pierre Liet Trudeau was the founder and editor-in-chief of this magazine called Cite Libre. His nominal enemy, René Lebeck, was a writer for this thing. And all of the technocrats that took over the Canadian government with Pieroet-Trudeau, when Pierre-Late Trudeau was brought into the Liberal Party, were all writers for the Cite-Libre magazine. So they took over first on the Quebec level. And when that was, you know, a successful enough of a purge to create a new oligarchy in Quebec, the effort was then

applied to the federal level to do it there, which was what, so at the time, Pierre Leit Trudeau was still an NDP member, which itself, most Canadians don't know this, the NDP was the NDP was the FABION Society of Canada was the NDP. It was actually, it was first called the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation in the 1930s. And it was created by five, road scholars in 1931. One of those road scholars, F.R. Scott and another one, Escott Reed, were managers of Pierre Elliott Trudeau. When Pierre Liet Trudeau, after receiving his Jesuit brainwashing in St.

Jean de Beret-Beouf College, you know, and he became a supporter of fascism in Quebec during World War II and a little bit afterwards, too. He was supporting, like, the Quebec Nazis of Adrian Arcan. That was what a young Pierre-Liatt Trudeau was, like, actually openly supporting he was sent down first to be trained under a road scholar in Harvard named William Yandel Elliot who was the primary road scholar at the time managing the takeover of the USA after two years of being trained as a William Yandel Elliott boy he was then sent to London for another year to be trained under the head of the Fabian Society, Harold Lasky,

on the thesis of synthesizing Christianity and communism. That was Pia L. Trudeau's thesis in university. And he showed such a skill, you know, he's very sociopathic and smart that Harold Lasky sent him on a 500-day tour of the empire.

So for 500 days, he's sent, you know, around the world to Lebanon and every country that he would go to would always end up going through a regime change under the CIA and then he would go somewhere else. And basically it was part of learning the ropes. It was being groomed, you know?

You're like, okay, you're going to get a tour of the invisible empire. You know, you're going to get a sense of how the nerve center work, how decision-making works. And then when he returns to Canada, he set up in the Privy Council Office, which is sort of the nerve center of Canada, and he works there for a couple of years. That's where he sets up the Citee Libre from the Canadian Privy Council Office. He has certain managers like Norman Robertson,

who's the head of the external affairs at the Privy Council. He's a Rhodes Scholar as well, overseen by Vincent Massey. And so, but he's always part of the Canadian Fabian Society. He's an NDP, first CCF, then NDP, when it changes its name, still Fabian. And a conference is held in a place in Quebec on the border of Ottawa, of Ontario, called Montobello in 1963. and presiding over this conference are Walter Gordon, who's, by the way, also overseeing the narcotics trafficking, too. As the chief accountant of Canada, Walter Gordon, is in charge of working with the Scotiabank, Bank of Nova Scotia at the time, to launder international

drug profits through the Canadian bank, specifically through the offshore banking activities of the Royal Bank of Canada, Scotia Bank. Part of the international global network of empire is money laundering. So Walter Gordon oversees that while he's the executive chair of the Canadian Roundtable, he's in charge of the conference that vets a young Pierre Liot Trudeau and a few other guys to become the candidates for leading the Liberal Party. And Pierre Litt Trudeau's got the charisma, you know, he's got the bilingualism, which Lester Pearson doesn't have. Lester Pearson can't speak French. So it doesn't. He's not ideal, you know, for actually doing what they want to do.

And another guy who's working very closely with Walter Gordon is Mori Strong. Mori Strong is at that event. At the time, Mori Strong is the vice president of Power Corporation, which is in charge of all of the hydroelectric power policies in Quebec. And Mori Strong is a high-level player in the Liberal Party. You know, I think everybody listening probably has encountered the name of Maury Strong once or twice. And so Mori Strong actually writes, or he gives an interview in 1995 to Elaine Dewar,

a Canadian writer called in a book that she wrote called Cloak of Green. And in that book, Elaine recounts how Maurice describes his role in the planning committee of 1963 with Walter Gordon in selecting Pierre Liot Trudeau and being like, okay, let's, let's take him. Let's take, let's take, uh, Gerald Peltier is another one of, the Trudeau's doves who take control of Canada in 68. So he's immediately made a cabinet member, a cabinet minister in the liberal party. He's brought into the to become the minister of justice. He starts a liberalization of, you know, of laws, you know, basically with saying, you know,

it's not the business of the government regarding what goes on in people's bedrooms. And, you know, it works because it's partially true like the canadian laws were a little overly constrictive i would say regarding like you know being a making it illegal to be gay you know things like that should there be a law against the gate no there shouldn't be a law to stop people from being gay if they're gay and they shouldn't you know they whatever but he then goes and makes it like kind of a national religion or he creates a movement around what opens the gateway to a massive um liberalization policy that is ushered it in in 68 and it really, really accelerates from the October crisis using the War Measures

Act to crush all opposing forces in Quebec. There's the club of Rome. So Mori Strong is working with Pierre-Leod Trudeau from 1968 onward. And Pierlete Trudeau has a network of people from Oxford, including Michael Pitfield, who goes on and found CIS. He's known as Pierlyette Trudeau's shadow. He's also the vice president of Power Corporation as well in the 80s. Pitfield. son Thomas Pitfield is the is the head of what's called Canada 2020 he's the executive chair of the think tank

Canada 2020 that was set up in 2006 that that that basically vetted Justin Trudeau to become a political figure so that was that was a 2006 meeting in in where is it Montrembla with the son of Michael Pitfield, Thomas, who's a lifelong friend of Justin, a boyhood friend,

who's the chair of the Canada 2020. Another person who's a founder of Canada 2020 is Diane Carney, the wife of Mark Carney. Mark Carney today is the president of Canada 2020. John Manley, Bob Ray, Bob Ray's road scholar, who gave his seat up to Christia Freeland, another road scholar in Ontario. He was another founder of Canada 2020 in 2006, and McClellan. also high-level technocrat was a founder of this thing and and these were people who were also co-chairs like John Manley and Thomas Axworthy who was another head of this thing were co-chairs of

the independent task force on the North American Union to basically create a European Union for North America as the next phase of NAFTA that's what they were doing actively while overseeing Canada 2020 and that was a period when there was another person of any nationalist resistance within the liberal party of Kretzien. I kind of like Kretzian, even though he was a corrupt fraud in so many levels. He's a, he had a sort of,

he was part of the old school statesman type of, of, of, politician that you don't see anymore. And he did certain disruptive things to the empire and sort of him and his grouping had to be purged. And that purge, that was kind of like the way I see it. That was the period of like John Diefenbaker, you know, during John Defenbaker's time, he was taken out from also road scholars from within,

like Davy Fulton, who was a Rhodes Scholar, who was the Minister of Justice under Defenbaker, had a grouping of these sociopathic young men like Maurice Lamontang, a whole slew of them, who worked to dismantle DeFenbaker acting like they were conservatives, but never really. And then all of his young boys, the Fulton boys, all became like presidents of the Privy Council Office, with Walter Gordon and with Pierly Trudeau by the 60s, right? So they're always working together. You know, I got to be, I can't be the only one. I'm sure there's got to be listeners sticking their hands up as soon as I say this.

You've rattled off names I've never heard of before. Now, you've rattled off some names that I'm like, oh yeah, I know who that is. But when it comes to like Canadian history, you've rattled off so many names or I'm like, I don't even know who the heck that is, right? And I am like, all I'm getting the sense of is, you know, I stare at Trudeau in that time. as really important because it certainly pushed us a certain way that, you know, before that we weren't going. And what you're pointing out is how much history there is and how much effort went into selecting Pierre Elliott, Trudeau, and then how much went on while he was in and around the time of his governing. Yes?

Yes. Like this wasn't by accident. No. This isn't one man's dream for a country. No. this is this is a large group of people well i should not a large a small group of people um influencing uh one man and then him playing it out and as you pointed out right off the hop um he was given a lot more leash than say justin because justin can't find his way out of

anything um and every time he even gets throwing soft balls he seems to stutter through those and not have a great ability to talk to the public. And so you're going back to then, like this, there was a lot of things at work while this is going down. Yes. I endorse your summary. Yes. I got to ask about the Arctic.

I want to talk about, I didn't realize this is where I was going to stick in my brain, but you're talking about Defenbaker. And the Arctic being the frontier, the last frontier. I don't know if you said the last. frontier but you bring that up why was he focused on the arctic i just maybe i'm missing something here i mean why does that make why would he care about the arctic why wouldn't he be i don't know in the 60s like pumping western canada and being and maybe probably was but like building up that why the arctic what was so important about up there well if you look at the canadian and russian

arctic as uh as comparisons there's a lot of similarities similar borealial sort of rainforest similar kind of mantle structure as well geologically speaking you know they got innuits we got innuits um the mineral rich deposits up there as russia has proved because they've been a lot better over the centuries at mapping out and and expanding their their civilization into the arctic they've been way better than we have because we've always been under the control of the british that want to just basically use canada as a wedge um within the americas to destabilize the united states and to keep the u.s from working with russia through what, you know, for example, Alaska.

So that's part of the geopolitical purpose of Canada within the British Empire's great game. They're big chess game, you know. So unfortunately, there's never been a real serious effort to do what Russia has successfully done since they're much more sovereign than we are at opening up that, you know, the Arctic. So Deacon Baker had good advisors. he was working with people like W.A. Bennett, you know, the premier of BC, who also had a pretty bold vision for going north.

And it's just, it's so, it's so much potential. It's painful. You know, like all of Canada is basically, it's, it's embarrassing. Like 95% of our population lives within a 70 kilometer border of the United States. We have so, like, you know, you look at a satellite image at night of Canada, and it's just like it's nothing. We got like seven, seven pretty much bigish cities strung out over highly, highly underdeveloped land. One of the lowest population per capita levels in the world.

We have just wasted potential. So he was, he was a guy who was, you know, looking at the world from the standpoint of potential. And he believed in big projects. So that if we were. And what was the big project he wanted to get? done that never got done. Oh, that was, let me see if I could do a, can I present my screen here? Let me share a screen.

Here, I'm going to do a present screen here. I'm going to see if I can. Can you see my screen? Yes, I can. Okay. Ah, damn it, it's really small. Okay, well, that's unfortunately a smaller image of what I wanted to show. This is the Frobisher Bay Dome City design commissioned by the Department of Public Works in 1958.

This was supposed to be the template of a series of several dozen similar kinds of cities that would house about 5,000 people with all of the comforts of Toronto, with, you know, shopping malls, recreational zones. A lot of focus on engineering, so to house the families as a permanent habitation center for that would be driven by new mining projects in the Arctic. you had the idea of building. And so he wanted to put this up in the middle of nowhere. I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm understanding. I don't know why this seems so absurd, but it just seems like, so he wanted to build a giant facility up in the middle of nowhere. So they become a hug.

I mean, the idea was, the idea was the mapping, because you have tons of these rare earth mineral deposits, other things that, I mean, would make the, the oil sands of Alberta pale in comparison. And there's so much of the world's resources up there. It's crazy. So there would be permanent development centers across the territories, the northern parts of provinces, as well as the Arctic zones of the, of none of it.

Well, today's none of it in Yukon and Northwest territories. And they would be tied together by rail and roads. So part of the designs, the blueprints were unifying these various new cities around railroad connections. with links up into Alaska as well. This is what also W.A.C. Bennett was doing with his northern rail program that also involved the hydroelectric dams on the Peace River in the BC North zone. That was a battle. That didn't happen because the empire gave it to us.

It was a fight that involved a battle with power corporation against WAC Bennett, who was a premier for 20 years from 1940, no, 1952 to 72. And he and Defenbaker were both trying to build, build up the Arctic. You know, Bennett had to nationalize power corporations so that the, so that this entity would be, would behave according to the interests of the, of the British Columbia people and industrial needs of the, of the people. So they did that. The rail line all the way up went to the north of B.C. to Dawson's Creek. But it was, it was sabotaged when, when the eco fascist took over under Trudeau. You know, in 1968, this is where you had Morrie Strong with Carrily Trudeau and Pitfield,

creating what's known as the Club of Rome of Canada. So this is done under Alexander King as well. And they created what's known as Environment Canada. And Environment Canada was designed to prevent any type of Arctic or northerner, any type of big project, any type of development under this new logic of ecosystems management. And so they started putting off limits, whole chunks of Canada. They often manipulated a lot of the Native American or the First Nations peoples into being treated like a component of the ecosystems that would then be placed off the charts or off limits from any type of dam or road you'd want to build. And it was designed to just sort of keep us intellectually in a small little cage around the idea that anything we do might change nature, which is bad now because the computer models say it's bad.

and and and we were just we were cut off from doing all of these things that would allow us normally to leap outside of the limits to growth which was the previous you know ethos of the Canadians was leap over the limits to growth go to the go to the beyond the frontiers build civilization and the eco-fascists didn't like that they wanted to keep us thinking small and ease and and thus be more easy to manage it's a fascinating idea I guess to expand and to go, you know, I guess when I, with the Arctic, I didn't mean the middle of nowhere, not like there wasn't a plan, but hearing the plan is like, oh, no, his idea then, if I, if I'm understanding correctly, was, look, there is big resources up there. What if we built a modern civilization like cities from the standpoint of we could put people up there, give them the luxuries of life down in one of the cities here? And then from there, we could expand. and grab the resources and continue to expand on our country and then take the resources and prosper with them and and carry on and i assume then they'd grabbed certain points up in the arctic we're like we should put one there we should put one there we should put one there and if we built these things out they'd be huge but they would also offer the opportunity of expanding on getting resources that we don't currently have because it's up in the middle of nowhere and I guess that's just very bold is kind of the word that comes to mind.

Like I just don't know of a leader that's currently doing anything like that or have, you know, maybe I'm skipping parts of history, Matt. Maybe you're like, well, actually, in the last 30 years, there's been this guy. I just can't remember it. No, man, you're right. It's a forgotten art of statecraft. The boldness, that quality of boldness is, we saw it with J. Like a lot of the hydroelectric dams, continental planning of water management, electricity grid development, based on a philosophy of breaking free of the limits to growth and leaping into the unknown with encouraging people to make new discoveries and innovations and technologies.

That was really expressed beautifully by JFK. Unfortunately, yeah, there wasn't. Unfortunately, his time kind of came and went, didn't it? Yeah, it was cut short, right? Um, so that's part of the sad part of our, our legacy in the West is we've been cut off from the better heritage, which the oligarchy has, has worked so, so desperately to make us forget about that the thing that that made us viable, that made capitalism viable in the first place was this idea of pro industrial growth capitalism, which, which was based on

the idea of small and medium businesses and farms that would, that would be the driving lifeblood of our society. That's where all of the innovation would occur with small family farms and medium-sized farms. And that's how we were good, you know, like we did so much good things. And we had an idea of participating within our government, holding our government. We had a cultural ethos back in those days before you and I were even born. That was a little bit more.

It was, it promoted this concept that we are the government, that if the government's shit, it's because we allowed that to happen. and we're responsible to make corrective measures accordingly. And so there was that deeper participation that it wasn't government or the or private interest. It wasn't like this either or type of dichotomy that we've been forced into since the Cold War especially got crazy, which is like, you know, are you for personal, individual liberty or are you for government?

Like that's sort of the choices. Are you going to be a commie or a free market, Adam Smith follower? Pick, pick an extreme. And it's like that's a false dichotomy. Most of human history didn't have that false choice. And a lot of the industrialists were working, like C.D. Howe was himself super promoted. Like even though he was the minister of everything of Canada, like he worked closely with private business to make Canada grow, to make it good.

And, you know, we also developed the Avro Arrow and the like the supersonic jets under him and the can do like nuclear reactors. We're the second nation behind the U.S. to have civilian nuclear reactors. We were working to share it with the world with. Pakistan with India so that we were we had a philosophy of helping other nations that had been subjected to colonialism to break free and leapfrog with the best technology that that they would be allowed to not not only access but to do themselves. So we had that that that much more freedom loving spirit of technological progress under Citi Howe and under Diefenbaker. And and and that was what was targeted for destruction by Henry Kissinger and these other groups that said no. the only type of foreign policy and in canada we had lester b pearson who oversaw the the

overhaul of canada's foreign policy to basically uh under under pierre let trudeau to say no if you're going to get a loan from canada and this is what what morey strong actually mori strong was the head of the canadian international development corporation in nineteen sixty five to 68 he was the head of the the ministry of external affairs in that sense as well and uh and the new the new policy was okay if you're going to get a loan from Canada as an African country like Kenya or Nigeria or India, you're, you only get the loan on the condition that you reorganize your government. You bring in, let's say the University of, of Rwanda overseen by George J'Hanrique,

who becomes like in charge of training all of the young elites of Rwanda. It, in, and sort of becomes a brainwashing mechanism. And then we'll give you a few million dollars of Canadian taxpayer money to reorganize your government. bring in a Western corporation like Peter Monk's Barrett Gold. You know, that's a Canadian mining company. And how did Peter Monk's Barrett Gold get control of the gold resources of Africa? That's how.

And that's why Peter Monk was working with Maurice Strong and Pierre Liet Trudeau to create the World Wildlife Fund controls inside of Canada with ecosystem systems management. They were all working together with Prince Charles, Prince Baronhardt. And it's like, these are guys who are making their fortunes off of of mining the earth for gold, destroying the environment, but they're the ones bringing in environmentalism as a new governing policy into Canada. They were doing the same thing in the US under Kissinger.

So yeah, we lost this heritage, this way of thinking of open up the Arctic, open up the new frontiers, think about permanent civilized. Don't think about just like, you know, like rape it, like rape the resource and disappear. You know, it's not like the oil sands logic in that sense of Fort McMurray. which is like, what, 90% men, you know, not a lot of permanent, like, it's not conducive to sustainable families.

You know, there's a lot of drugs, a lot of hookers. It's, that's part of the lifestyle. But the philosophy of Fort McMurray was never to build Canada. It was to tap the resource until it's tapped, you know. So that philosophy is garbage. You want to have like this other idea of, okay, the resource might be the driving force to make a lot of money quickly, but it's not the end all. That's just the means to an end. The end is, you know, real, real civilizational nation building in a permanent way. And that's, that's,

that's done in Russia. It's done in Eurasia. If you look at China, they built up something like 190 cities in the past 20 years. 190 cities made, created out of scratch. Some of them are, a few of them are empty, but a lot of them are full of people now. And they're, they're permanent. Like, in in the in in all over eurasia they're working with the russians they're working with the indians they're working with the iranians to build up these permanent systems with high speed rail connections magnetic levitation connections you know like it's a different philosophy in in eurasia that we we in the in canada find it difficult to well we had givow say we're not going to build any more roads yes right like i've just you know i'm um yeah forgive me uh yeah

probably half of you cannot see my, my facial expressions right now, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, stuck on, on a few different things, you know, like, one is like the fact that we had a leader once upon a time that was like, yeah, we're going to, we're going to do things. You know, I forgot, not that I forgot about the Avro Arrow Arrow. I just always thought the Avro Arrow is such a, man, you know, now going through the last four years, it's just kind of like, you understand there was a whole lot going on with the Avro Arrow, right? Like, that, that's, to have, that technology and then just to mothball it and everything else. You know, it's just, it's almost refreshing to known that at one point in time,

we had some bold leaders in this country that were like trying to like look at it and being like, oh yeah, what can we do? Let's do this. Let's go and build things. Because for so long, it just feels like it's a complete opposite way. And right now it's on an extreme level. You know, we're not going to do anything with roads anymore. We got enough, we got enough infrastructure.

We don't need any more. Are you insane? Like, are you insane? I spoke to the vice president of Via Rail back in 2017. He was giving a presentation at a university in Montreal. And I went and I asked him a question. And it was on these standard gauge rail lines that he was saying, oh, maybe we can build this between like Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa,

Ottawa, Toronto to New York. He's like in the next 10 years. And I'm like, okay, cool. We probably should have done that already 30 years ago. when they started talking about this. But it's nice that you're doing it now. But why in this whole two-hour presentation did nobody even bring up even once high-speed rail?

And I gave him the example. At the time, there was 20,000 kilometers that China had built up in only 13 years. They built up 20,000 kilometers. Today, they're at 43,000 kilometers of high-speed rail in 2024, as I say these words. I'm like, China's already done this in no time whatsoever. We don't even have, we have zero high-speed rail.

They can go like, you know, 500 kilometers an hour, you know? Like, why are we, if we're so advanced, why are we not even talking about this? And his answer to me was, well, you see, that works for China because they're lesser developed than we are. But because we are already developed, we don't need these technologies because we're already developed. And it's like, wait a minute, that's the stupidest thing ever.

That's like saying, because I'm healthy now, I don't need to eat healthy foods anymore because I'm healthy now. I could like, what, just eat chocolate bars or something? Like, no, you know, you always want to always get better. That's the whole point. That's how we got developed to begin with is we had a philosophy of doing better than where we're at, not selling for technologies that we had 70 years ago and acting like it's new.

It's, it's an insane philosophy. Yeah, it's mind-boggling. It's sad. Yeah, it is. It's hopeful, though, too, you know, on the flip side, because I'm like, if we had it once, we can have it again, right? It's not that far of a stretch, I don't think. But it is, it is odd.

You know, I remember you're talking about the Canadian flag. And I, you know, I guess as a young guy, I just always assumed it was our flag, right? Like, I mean, you don't wake up one day in 1995 and go, did we have a different flag? You just, you know, that's the Canadian flag. And, you know, the hockey teams wear it. And it's part of our culture and on and on it goes. and you just go, and it's a nice looking flag. Just this.

And so you never think about it. And then I got talking to, I was somebody in their 80s or 90s, and they talked about the red enzyme. And I was like, what, no? Oh, yeah, yeah, there was a huge uproar. And then got talking to some of my family. Oh, yeah, your great uncles just absolutely lost it on the government

when they got rid of the flag that we fought with in the World Wars. And I'm like, what are you talking about? and then I was like how didn't all of Canada revolt when they did that if it was like if you because you you think about it how many people died in Canada

from the World Wars how were they able to just be like oh and by the way we're going to have a new flag that actually have a hard time imagining that like how did they sweet talk a population into being like here here's our new flag and it's not that big a deal and a new national anthem for that

yeah no I agree. Like, I, you know, I'm, I'm no fan of the British Empire. Don't get me wrong. But the, the way that we were duped in this commercial rebranding into just unquestioningly, just taking this thing on is silly. And, you know, it's like Pierre Litt Trudeau himself, you know, like they used Beatlemania, the techniques that were done.

And I'm sorry for all Beatle fans out there who might be hearing me say this and are getting offended. But I mean, it's true if you look into it. The Beatles were one of a variety of bands that were picked up by EMI Records, which was the official electronics firm for the British military industrial complex in order to test out a new marketing strategy. And originally when they were brought into the Ed Sullivan show, this was a brilliant piece of marketing because a bunch of girls were given 20 bucks to get on school buses sent to an airport. And all of the mainstream media, the big media outlets, all sent photographers down that were all. all on site right next to the plane when it landed. And the girls were basically told whoever gets out of that plane, you start screaming like, like you're on fire.

You know, like you like you're having an orgasm. Just scream like crazy. And they were like, who's getting out of the plane? Is it like the rattlesnakes or something? Whatever. And they're like, oh, and they screamed. And the next day, all of the headlines across North America where just the Beatles invasion, the British invasion is here.

And pictures of girls crying their eyes out in happiness. They just had 20 bucks. And it was a marketing campaign to get, you know, to basically introduce a new band into America. And I'm not commenting on their, on their musical talents or anything. I'm just saying that's what happened. And that same marketing technique was so effective that they did it. They're like, can we do this politically? And that was what Trudeau mania was.

You know, read all the propaganda for Pierlete Trudeau is the sexy, you know, you know, demigod, hero who women love and men want to be. and all of the stuff in 1967, 68. You can read it's disgusting. But it worked. It worked because it created these felt thoughts in the zeitgeist. And all of a sudden he became the man's man who is just like, you know, and dating Barbara Streisand and all their things. And, you know, he had a hot tamale little little wannabe model, a crazy girl, you know, Margaret Sinclair, who ends up becoming the mother of some of his kids. and uh and uh whatever it tort this girl is crazy as is all hell who's touring with the rolling

stones and dating jack nicholson and stuff and but all that to say um it was it was marketing we were we were played we were played and the thing that people might hear me when i speak well of deefenbaker and then i also speak well of the avro arrow a lot of people i'm sure are hearing my words and are thinking that's absurd because deefenbaker killed the avroarro ero i saw dan acroid on the made for Canada movie on the Avro Arrow killing and Defenbaker was clearly the bad guy and it's true. Defenbaker was prime minister when the Avro Arrow was canceled. However, the reasons for it are not what people think. And there in my books, I go through this in a bit of detail. I don't have the names readily accessible in my memory right now. But there were a nest of anti-development road

scholars who had been installed in the Canadian bureaucracy, who later on were co-founders of that Canadian Club of Rome I was talking about about a decade later. And the decision was made to not only cancel the Avro Arrow based on the ICBM, because new ICBM technologies had been developed that allowed for intercontinental ballistic missile delivery capabilities, which the Avro Arrow was originally a military jet. So it was originally as commission was was designed, not for passengers originally, but it was to send a bomb to the Soviet Union in a really fast way.

So the ICBMs made that tech. It dried up the contracts for the tech, so there was a lack of money. But they still built like nine of them that were prototypes and they flew, but the decision was made to then grind them up into scrap metal, except for like one that was found at the bottom of some lake

and destroy the tech such that the people who had the living memory, the engineers who made it, were out of jobs. They were forced to go and work for NASA, which is probably why NASA had any success at all was because of these Canadian aerospace engineers who were sent down to find jobs there.

But most of this was done behind Defenbaker's back. But he was, again, part of his naivete that resulted in him walking into so many traps and not understanding the terrain is that he was a radical, pro-monarchist to the point that he loved Lincoln, he loved FDR, like he was inspired by them in his heart, but in his mind. He was so shaped by the romantic revisionism of British Empire propaganda when he was a kid, you know, like there's this idea that the British Empire is the

cause of everything good in global civilization. We gave civilization to the Indians, the savages. It's all because of the British that anything good. And so if you're a naive, simple-minded Canadian or Australian or British person reading that propaganda, you're like, wow, we are great. We civilizations, technology is great, you know. And so you might start enthusiastically embracing that, which is what Diefenbaker represented, but he was getting advice from people like he was, he believed his, his advisors were Rhodes Scholars represented the British Empire. He got weekly calls from Queen Elizabeth,

which he brags about in his autobiography saying she's the smartest person I ever met. And she gave me weekly briefings based on her Privy Council briefings. And that was the most, the greatest honor I ever had. And then he, but he can't, he can't understand how everything he tried to do got sabotaged. It's like, it's sad. It's sad that he just, he was, he had this big blind spot that, uh, despite his big heart and, uh, and good intentions. You know, you mentioned road scholars an awful lot. Yeah. Oxford, right?

Yeah. So what is it about road scholars? What is it about Oxford? That's the main university in Britain? Oxford. Or am I wrong on it? No, you're good. There's three main big universities.

Cambridge is, I think, the king of the universities. as far as like if you want to understand the British Empire's grand strategic planning, the higher creative class that shapes the policy on the higher level is coming out of Cambridge. Then what you have two dual universities that sort of work together with a with a left-right sort of paradigm, which is the London School of Economics set up in 19, sorry, 18, I want to say 1892 or something. And then Oxford. So that does that does the interplay.

Now the Fabians created the Fabian Society, which is a think tank, you could say, in the 1880s, was set up to promote a grooming of next generation managers that would be more disciplined, but that would have a bit more of a socialist underpinning to their worldview. It was a socialist college. The Fabians are nominally socialists. They're called the Fabian socialists.

They also created the Labor Party of Britain in 1901. That's sort of like the UK counterpart to the Liberal Party of Canada. They're all eugenicists as well, right? George Bernard Shaw, H.G. Wells, Bertrand Russell, Beatrice and Sydney Webb, there's many others. They're all unrepentant eugenicists. So, I mean, how much do you like the poor if you want to kill off most of the poor because they're genetically unfit?

They're kind of manipulating poor people. So that's the London School of Economics. Now, the Rhodes Scholarship was set up using the fortunes gained by Cecil Rhodes, who was running a very rapacious policy of much of Africa, especially in the South. He created his own nation called Rhodesia, which is much of today's South Africa. Things like De Beers, Launerho, a lot of the big mining companies were set up by him that are still to this very day, raping Africa and keeping them underdeveloped artificially to exploit their resources.

That's part of the game. And so he died in 1902, but he bequeathed his fortunes to setting up a new think tank, which became known as the Roundtable Movement, and a new, what's known as the Rhodes Trust, which was overseen by this Canadian named George Parkin I was telling you about, who's the grandfather of George Grant. George Parkin was the president of the Rhodes Trust. He wrote a book about it as well. and that would then put money towards selecting talent from around the world

with the focus on giving scholarships to leading young people in the USA and Canada and Australia at first. I think to this very day there's been like 9,000 Americans over the last century who have been given road scholarships and the idea was to then give them a special set of experiences in Oxford. You know, they would be under heavy training, heavy testing for those who exhibited talent, as Ciesel Rhodes describes in his last will and testament. It's, they would, they would be given higher responsibilities, higher initiation ceremonies would be granted to them in Oxford. That would create a church of the British Empire.

That's what Rhodes calls for is creating a new managerial class that would be devoted like modern Jesuits. So he actually wanted to follow the Jesuit constitution to create sort of a new Templar order, which is why he calls the roundtable movement based on the grail myths of the King Arthur and the roundtable. You know, that's part of the mythology. And those myths that were done in the 11th century, 12th century were recruitment tools driven by the Templars who were overseeing known as the thing known as the Crusades.

the Crusades was like several hundred years of religious war, forever wars between a militarized Christian community in Europe, who would then be organized by secret orders known as Templars, the Knights of Malta, to then basically go on Christian jihad against the infidels living in the holy land to basically take control of what's known as the Kingdom of Jerusalem, purged of the the people living there and rebuild Solomon's temple in order to usher in the end times where the Messiah will come back. That was the original idea of the Templars. Unfortunately, and the Templars had control of banking. I mean, most of the early corporations of Europe were set up by the Templars. Most of the banking were put under their control. And they were a bit, I think, Nazi like. They got their, the power went to their heads a little bit. And they started wanting to buy the world, you know, and some of the kings who weren't good people, but were like, now, this is getting too much. They, they colluded with certain agents within the Vatican to,

to invite the head of the Templars into a banquet and basically burnt them all alive. They apparently, I think they probably did have evidence that these Templars were Baphomet worshipping Satanists, where they got, you know, admissions as such. And the thing about the Templar fortunes and their banking assets were all given to their arrival knighthood called the Knights Hospitaller, aka the Knights of Malta. And they got control of all these things. And they became the ones that ran banking for the next several centuries. Now, here's the thing.

The Knights Hospitaller and the Knights of Malta, they're basically two names for one thing. So the Templar leaders go kind of underground. They can't openly say that they're, they're Templars. But they get rebranded in Scotland, in Spain, in France. This is what ends up generating the thing called the Jesuit order in the 1530s. This is also what is taking over Britain and creating the Anglican church in the 1530s. It's already been been brewing now for several centuries. These are a bunch of pseudo, like underground temple.

our groups that create the basis of Freemasonry, of modern Freemasonry. They're Kabbalists as well. They're always trying to pursue their idea of rebuilding Solomon's Temple. They're the ones that drive this idea of this is actually what's behind. Unfortunately, I know going off track here, but it's, you know, it's beautiful. They're the ones who drive the creation of these new pseudo-Christian and pseudo-Jewish cults that are driven by this idea that we need to build Solomon third temple in the Holy Land and bring all of the Jews of the world into a certain zone. And then we can bring in the Messiah with the Christians say for the second time, the Jews say for the first time. Either way, the effect is geopolitical hell on earth.

It's not good. And here's the thing. The the Anglican branch of the, once the Anglican church is created, the Knights of Malta split off into two groups that work together. One is known is the Knights of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem for the Anglican branch. And the other one that's more Catholic is the Knights of Malta. They still exist. The founders of the CIA are members of the Knights of Malta. Now, here's the thing. What I said about the lieutenant generals of Canada that were enshrined in our

British North America Act of 1867, if you look at every single member, every single non-elected appointed lieutenant. governor in each province has its own that has to give royal assents to whatever laws are passed in in the commons they're all members of the knights of the order of st john of jerusalem every single one for 150 years that can be verified it's messed up i'm sorry that's part of the thing though i don't know how this how useful it is for me to say that for people listening but it's a thing it's uh it's it's it's something to bring so let's let's say you're saying it's a right of passage.

To get that job, you have to be a part of this. Or you're saying people who are a part of it get that job. Probably a bit of both. I don't know yet. I don't know which the chicken or the egg. I'm not too sure. But it's definitely check off the checklist if you're going to have the job. Have you seen Malay, right?

Malay from Argentina? Yeah, Javier. Did you see him crying at the Whaling wall? Whaling wall? Yeah. What did you think of that? He's a controlled opposition.

So is that part of the, the, what's the word I'm looking for? Is that part of the ritual? Not the ritual. Like the initiation, initiation, that's more the word I was looking for. is like you're you're controlled by us so now you have to come and go to this place because it's it just makes little to no sense of on my end when I watched it I was like oh I don't know is he super religious right like when I look into that wall um from what I understand it's as close to God as you can get that's that's kind of the story surrounding the wall I'm doing it disservice I want to make sure that everybody understands that that's in general sense the way I understood it You put your hand on the wall and you're getting close to God.

That's kind of the simplistic, very simplistic version. Well, that's a good question. I think for my thinking on it, yes, you ask nice, good open questions, Sean. I was very impressed. Look, the way I have no doubt that there are good, authentic Jews who are going to that wailing wall and doing it for the right spiritual reasons. Malay is not one of them, to say it in a nice way. The way I see this currently is that it's all, there's a Hegelian dialectic that that is a constant throughout history.

We are as humans often played emotionally and intellectually by these false opposites. There are real opposites. Like, I believe in good and evil as real authentic opposites. You know, evil is not the same thing as good. Good is different. It's not even different. It is opposite to evil. So I do believe in like legitimate opposites.

However, there are controlled opposites too. False opposites. The French Revolution is a good example of, you know, false left, false right dichotomies, which is where the current political idea of left versus right and politics comes from the French Revolution, which is just different sides of the French Asaménais. where you have the gendres on the one side who are much more intellect heavy, you know, like, we need to make a decimal system of our calendars because the decimal is perfect and, and, and, and emotions are evil.

Their pollution that disrupt the purity of intellect. And then the Jacobins were like, no, the intellect has created tyranny. We need to be more emotionally pure. That's where truth lies is in our feelings. And then, you know, you get the people to fight and cut each other's heads off for five years of civil war. And then there's a vacuum of leadership. and then you get a proto-fascist Napoleon to be introduced as a Masonic, you know, anti-Semitic, hardcore fascist who wants to take over the world as a new emperor,

as your solution to the problem. So that's sort of how the game has always been played. And I think that today, Klaus Schwab, sloppy, I mean sloppy. He's obviously, he's a cutout. Klaus Schvob, a lot of people treat him like he's more than he is. He's himself, you know, a trainee, a disciple of Henry Kiss. Kissinger. Kissinger was his mentor at this CIA sponsored Harvard program in the 60s. And he was simply selected as one of a variety, kind of like Trudeau, Pierre, Trudeau, you know,

he's selected as one of several candidates to be the cardboard cutout in charge of putting online in 1971, a new agency called the World Economic Forum that would sort of like be a junior partner to the Bilderberger group. But he said something right before, Javier Malay, went out, went down to the wailing wall he basically said the the greatest threat to the the great research is libertarianism and it's like whoa wait a minute you just why would you who talks like that right like you're obviously talking to a profiled segment of the population of the world and by saying that you're obviously it's like you want more people to become libertarian and then and then you know Javier Malaig goes and says his thing in the world economic form, we're against global communism.

We are for freedom and, you know, and he represents like maximum radical libertarianism in Argentina. Now, what is he doing? Now, I like what he said at the world economic form. I like what he said. Don't get me wrong. However, look at what he's done since he got in there is he removed Argentina's, Argentina was about to join the bricks. He basically canceled that.

He locked Argentina's destiny into the U.S. dollar, basically saying, no, we're committed to the U.S. dollar. He launched the biggest privatization program in the in the history of Argentina, massive cuts to the social security net to government spending on everything good and battle like. And it's not to say that government spending is always good. It's not. It's often abused as we see it in Canada or any nation. However, he like is going slash and burn and mass privatization, which is exactly what Pinochet did as well in Chile when Kissinger installed Chile in 1971 overthrowing Salvador Orlando Lende. Pinochet, the first thing he did, he's like, yes, he's running a military dictatorship because people don't democratically just take on cuts

and living standards or privatization of their economy. But that's what he did. He privatized. He opened up mass liberalization of the Chilean economy for the IMF World Bank and private, you know, vulture capitalists to take control of what should have been run by the people. And that was Chile throughout the entire 70s under the control of a Kissinger puppet. it was it was liberalization so the whole austrian school idea if you look at it what they're trying to do and this is unfortunate because i've you know it's i i've come through this process myself but but um they want to create in opposition to the radical ultra bolshevik um LGBTQ there is no gender there is no truth everything is feelings type of reforms that

they've put in and we see how destructive they are. Antifa this and that the getting children to get lap dances by drag queens, you know, and drag time story hour. Like all of this is like obviously extremely insane. And it will create a predictable backlash to the opposite extreme of radical reactionary, hardcore right, um, fascism. That's going to be the, the reaction. Now, part of what they want to do with the, with the conservatives, the Christian

leaning conservatives of the, world is bring them all into this ultra catholic fascist or with there's protestant variations that are all being corralled together into a pro new crusading net so they want to create a new crusades with the idea that we need to align ourselves with the most radical expressions of zionism we have to radical prepare ourselves to go to war with china we have to ideally try to get people on board with supporting the ukraine nationalist against russian that's a little bit harder of a sell right now, but the other two are a bit easier to sell to a lot of, you know, Christian-minded conservatives. And it has to have a sort of libertarian empire ideology, which is like a free, ultra-free market, no government, like, ethic at the heart of the organizational structure of this thing that they're trying to build up.

and the Christians who tend to think about, you know, taking back control of their government or using the government as an agency of defense against the oligarchy or building up big infrastructure projects the way we used to do under Sainter Times long past. They're kind of washed out of that process. And so Millet, I think he's a spokesman for what they want everyone to become. and the effect is going to be just, you know, private, you know, monopolies and private sector industrialists, not industrialists, sorry, anti-industrialists, financiers are going to take control of things that should have been under the control of the public good in the nation state if we allow that orientation. And we might go to full-blown war with Russia and China as well, which is also what they want. And a lot of this has to do with the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple, too, and some global weird,

you know, nuclear purgative violence to eliminate most of the world population, which they kind of also want to do. That's a bit more disturbing. And it gets kind of a culty, both culty and occulty at the same time.

But that's a factor at play. Oh, yeah, the thing I didn't mention, too, about the Austrian school. So it's called the Austrian school for a reason because it's based upon the teachings of this guy named, Carl von Menger. And Menger was the retainer for the heir of the Habsburg Empire of the 1880s, 1890s,

before the Habsburg Empire nominally disappeared after World War I, but not really. And the leading courtiers and grand strategists of the Habsburg Empire were basically rebranding the British Empire's free trade doctrines into their own matrix, giving it the name Austrian School, which was an Austrianized version of the Adam Smith, you know, British Empire worldview. And they created this dispute in the 1930s between, on the one hand, John Maynard Keynes versus Friedrich von Hayek,

who were lifelong friends, both of whom actually supported one world government. Frederick von Hayek, at the end of his road to serfdom, even says we need a one world government to enforce the rules of global free trade and something that could punish people, punish nations for disobeying the rules. So he actually calls for that even though he's for absolute liberty. So go figure. And John Maynard Keynes is a high-level Fabian society, Cambridge, Apostle, working with Bertrand Russell, promoting world government.

And they basically create this false dichotomy, saying if you want to be a good liberal, if you want to be a good Democrat, then you've got to be a Keynesian. And if you want to be a good Republican, you want to be a good conservative, then you have to be a good von Hayek follower. Pick an extreme. and they basically take over control of the party systems in Canada and the United States during the Cold War of Britain. And so it becomes a false dichotomy because within those two choices, the reality of what C.D. Howe was, what Defenbaker was doing, what FDR was doing, what Lincoln was doing, it's not allowed. You're not allowed to understand it within the thought matrix of either one of those two extremes who are lifelong friends. Okay. Before I let you out of here today.

Okay. you know i'm like we might have to we might have to have to have a second part just so i could talk about margaret trudeau and all that we get rid of but but because i'm like you know i walked in here with a plan and i never should do that on a podcast because what happens is the plan gets blown to smithereens when you look at where we're at right now and you're you're talking about you know i go back to your beetles comment because i found that fascinating you know um when you look look at Canada right now and you see what they're doing with you know how Pierre's uh marketing himself you know and and and you just look across Canada at ways where they're trying to

I don't know manipulate us I don't even know anymore what the the word to use anymore what do you see like what sticks out to you you know we don't have the Beatles anymore we do have Taylor Swift um but do you see anything that sticks out you're like oh yeah you got to pay attention to this or you don't have to pay attention this, but this is certainly one thing they're trying. Well, yes, and I'm sorry for, I tend to go off. I like context. You know, I'm a context. So I know sometimes when I, when I try to answer a question directly, I'm like, no, I can't answer the question directly because it won't make sense unless I say this other thing that will shape the environment in which that answer is going to occur. So it tends to derail things a little bit. So if you do want to have a follow-up,

yeah, let's do it. I'm always down. And I'm hoping, too, I've tickled some curiosity out of your audience that maybe people might want to read my my books where where where can they find your books Matt oh okay yeah they can go to canadian patriot dot org and you can find by my books and you've got the untold history of Canada series and the clash of the two america's series easy to find um okay so for for now I obviously it's it's it's it's painful a little bit because not a little bit, very painful to see Canada with all of its potential make so many terribly bad decisions. And I was obviously, and I am very uplifted by what Canadians were able to accomplish just in the small expression of freedom love, freedom in the in the trucker convoy, which was an incredible thing that I didn't think was possible from Canadians. on the federal level right now i think everybody watching your show understands very clearly we're going full hog fascist like full full blown nazi you know not on every level and every parameter

regarding the nazi uh kill useless eaters policy of the tier garden four nineteen thirties health reforms that started monetizing the the lives of of and by that you mean made yes that's what you're pointing to then yeah yes made and uh and a lot of extensions You know, that a maid so far is going to be accelerating even more. It's tied to also the massive drug legalization policy, which is giving people a false solution to their problems, supported by government, you know, which is also- We're going to hand out free drugs.

We're going to hand out free drugs. It's a creative way on what has happened in the past. That's what you're- When your life is too shit, well, don't worry, you've got a maid pill waiting for you to end up. Yeah, yeah. And then if you look at that, well, then you've got to look at the Bronfman dynasty and the fact that Stephen Bronfman, who oversaw the growth of this entire narcotics program with his, I mean, his family did, you know, going back to the days of Samuel Bronfman, who's a member of the Knight of the Order of Both for the British Empire back in like 1910. The whole Bronfman dynasty, Edgar, Mitchell, the whole thing is what oversaw, Merilansky, it oversaw the entire, you know, growth of organized crime inside of the United States, which always interfaced with the CIA.

It always interfaced with MI6, the Sicilian, the Corskin, The Jewish mafia, all of his stuff. It's the thing. Stephen Rothman has been a handler of Justin Trudeau. You know, the fact that he's also a leading player within the current liberal party is not a coincidence, which is also behind this whole expansion, not only of free drugs that is like weed for pain, but basically everything, including psychedelics now that they're trying to do. So it's all part of the made program of make people, especially focusing on baby boomers,

because baby boomers are a big demographic. They're expensive to maintain as they get older. So you want to find excuses to make them soil green as fast as possible. So that's hardcore Nazi stuff. The Nazis were doing that. That's what they revived under a new spin. They've got obviously C-63 is a serious thing to try to shut down any type of conversation like this.

That's a thing. The Nazis were also massive environmentalists. Like Herman Guring was the Minister of Conservation and Natural and Forestry, who put big chunks of Germany under national protection to save the so-called ecosystems of Germany. And the idea was, yeah, militarization was a necessary evil in the mind of Guring and Hitler, but that was only a means towards achieving global control. But once that happened, under the control of the London and Wall Street bankers, the idea was to then massively decentralize it all into local communes.

I was part because people don't ask, well, what would have Hitler wanted to do if he won? What was the political economy he intended to imply had he won? And had he won, it wouldn't have been a pro-growth policy. He was a Malthusian. He wrote in his mind confh about the importance of studying Malthus, the British imperial mathematician who was promoting depopulation under scientific engineering. He was a greenie, man. I mean, to a radical degree.

He didn't care. And so this is all. been infused into a liberal sort of branding, but it's the same Nazi sort of essence. And there is resistance amongst some of the provinces. I mean, right now, the only, the most serious resistance I see is coming out of Alberta. Maybe there's some hope for Saskatchewan. I don't see a lot right now as proper fight on the federal level, you know, um, that's unfortunate. But I do see that there is a planned demolition of the world economy, but that isn't following the timeline that they had expected originally back when the Soviet Union was being dismantled

in the early 90s, there was a certain timeline for this New World Order to occur, which is not happening because there's a variety of resistance, both within our Western nations, but also, I think, within Eurasia, outside of our NATO Five Eyes control system, there are nations that are unwilling to sacrifice their people under some altar of some, you know, occult ritual. And these are nations that have align themselves increasingly with the multipolar groupings of the bricks, the Bricks Plus. They're doing something different. They're thinking differently about a variety of things that are very, very important that we don't fully understand in the West because we're just, we've been living in an insane world trying to look at the, look at the universe from the standpoint of this

imperial insane system. But like I mentioned, China has built up 40,000 kilometers of high speed rail. They've created hundreds of new cities. They're working with Russia. They've got an integration policy around developing next generation tech fusion power. They're applying it. 80% of the world nuclear power is being developed by China, Russia, India. That's it. We're not doing much right now to lift our weight because we have ideal ideologs that want to create scarcity in the West.

So if we want to survive, we should be thinking about ways like Deithenbaker or JFK, which was to look to the future, look to nations that don't want to die and figure out ways to avoid war. You know, like, there's ways of doing this. We just need more of a discussion like that. That's what I try to promote. I have no idea if you answer my question, but I do like the end of that.

You know, we could just, you know, not going to war and killing everybody. That'd be something smart. No kidding. Matt, I, as always, there's a whole lot in there. There's about 70 names where I'm like, I don't know who that is.

I don't know who that is. Don't know who that is. Have no idea who that is. Oh, no that name. And I think if you're Canadian, particularly, and you're thinking the same thing. It's like, well, probably time we got into a little more Canadian history and dug into some of that. Because if I'm going to start to figure out how Trudeau becomes Trudeau and how the things that are shaping our world of today started back, you know, after World War II before then, it probably is on myself. and the listener to educate themselves on, you know, some of our history.

Some of it's just sitting there ready to be read. And other you got to do a little bit digging. Either way, appreciate you coming on and starting the conversation. We'll see where it takes us here in the future. All right. It was a pleasure. And like I said, yeah, I went through a lot. And I'm hoping that it stimulates some people to want to see if what I'm saying is, is bullshit.

or or is it provable, you know, prove me wrong out there. People prove me wrong. Sounds good, man. Appreciate you hopping on. A pleasure. Bye.