Shaun Newman Podcast - #614 - Viva Frei

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

Lawyer, YouTuber and political commentator. We discuss Bill C-63, Trump/2024 election, Puff Daddy, the Baltimore bridge and all things Canada. SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below: https://...www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: shaunnewmanpodcast@gmail.com Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.com Text: (587) 441-9100 – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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Starting point is 00:00:17 You're back to school today. By the time people are listening to this, you're on your way to school. What have you to say on a Monday morning, Shea? Um, probably. it's a good day. It's a good day. It's a good sunny day. It's a good sunny day, folks.
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Starting point is 00:04:31 You got to speak into the mic, man. I know. And then don't yell into it. You're blowing everybody's ear drums. So what? I'm outside. I got to say, doing back flips and landing them?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Just doing back flips? No big deal. I've done some other things. Front flips and doing crazy stuff. You're yelling into the mic again. We're going to work on them. folks. You're yelling. He's got to well, I yell into the mic at all
Starting point is 00:04:59 times. And so you got to learn how to keep your voice from going, I don't know, da, down, and up an eyes. You just did it. You just did it. I know, but I'm making fun of you. Stop making fun of me, you'll win away. I don't know what that is. Winser
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Starting point is 00:05:49 shall we one thing here um i believe we have 17 tickets left for smp presents the cornerstone forum forum. We've had a little bit of bad luck shake, okay? One of our speakers is not coming, and I'm here to break it right now. McHell Thorup is not coming in from Panama, okay? I know. There's a whole bunch of people swerving into... That's hard. I know. It's tough. It's tough. People might leave, maybe. Maybe, maybe, but we got somebody to come replace them. Yes. All right. I like your enthusiasm. Dave Bradley talking about Bitcoin, and that should be an interesting... I hope, you know, maybe I should get Shea in here to do sounds every time I break some bad news and then throw some good news. In the show notes, you got SMP Presents, tickets still available while they last.
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Starting point is 00:07:20 Doesn't it? Doesn't it? Hey? I'm telling you, I'm liking the enthusiast. If you weren't smiling wherever you are today, I don't know what you're doing. Shea, what time is it? Is it time for the tail of the tape? I don't know. I'm going to say, I don't know, a few more things? I would, you know, this is as bad as having twos.
Starting point is 00:07:44 You know, you try and throw, oh, it's time for tail of the tape. It's time of tail of the tape. Well, we can maybe talk for a little bit longer, hey? How about what you say, and now let's get on to tail of the tape? Now let's get on to the tail of the tape. He's a lawyer, YouTube star, that goes by Viva Fry. I'm talking about David Frye Height. So buckle up, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Viva Fry. So I'm glad I didn't butcher that again because I went and listened to the last time. And I can't seem to say fry, fry, you know, on and on it goes. So thank you, sir, for hopping on. My pleasure. And I sincerely don't care when people mispronounce my last name. I, Frye hate growing up in Montreal, I grew up with mispronunciations and not sensitive about that.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, but on this side, I'm supposed to get it right, right? Like, I'm supposed to try, make an effort to not butcher it. Because when I butcher it, I hear all about it. And I'm like, okay, let's get it right. Even though for some reason my brain wants to call you fray, it doesn't matter. It looks like, I've been told since the beginning that I should have changed the name of the channel from Viva Fry to something easier to pronounce, less gender confusing because Viva people think. gender confusing. Viva, Vivian, and people are going to think if they see, if they don't know anything and they hear Viva fried, they'll think I'm a woman, couldn't care less either. But my brain
Starting point is 00:09:15 doesn't go there. My brain doesn't go to the gender confusion. I think we got enough of that going on in the world today. Well, this was a decade ago when this was not a, when 2014, the gender issue was not a litmus test of politics. It was virtually unheard of. So it was only for clarity. What did you think when it came out that it was going to be the trans day of visibility on Easter? Well, I knew a few things. I mean, first of all, I knew that Easter switches days every year. It's not, it's on the Gregorian calendar, so it's not March 31st of every year. I knew there was going to be hell to pay for doing it. I knew that the trans day of visibility has existed for, I didn't know it was 15 years. I think it was first declared in 2009. So I knew all of those things.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So the freak out was not about how dare he also label Easter Transvisibility Day because I knew they didn't always line up. I also knew that he, I had, don't recall him ever issuing a social media post about Transvisibility Day, certainly not a presidential proclamation in the last three years of his presidency. So whether or not the first time he chooses to do it, when it's when it falls on Easter, coincidence, deliberate act of provocation, I will go with the latter at this point in time. So I knew what to be enraged at or shocked at and not the not the wrong stuff. How dare he turn Easter into trans day of visibility. It wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Now hold on one second. I see one dog of mine is now heaving in the background. I don't know. I don't know. If you're picking it up on the mic, hold on. He's not yet done. What did he eat? He was eating something as I was walking him today.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Let's just wait for it to come up. I don't think it's perfect time. We're talking about trans day of visibility and the dog starts heaving. Like, well, I got it. Okay, it hasn't yet. Hold on a second. I'm going to make sure it comes up. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I always get nervous. Like, you never know if the dog is going to heave or die. And it passed and now he just licked it up off the ground. That's disgusting. All right, sorry. Carry on. What were we talking about? You know what the best part of my morning is, is Viva doing play-by-play on a dog puking?
Starting point is 00:11:17 I think we should have more of that. Well, I'll tell you, this, the Westie, the pudge who's behind me, the puggle, beagle pug. She's a mutt. She's half paralyzed. Her body, I mean, she's like, she would survive in the wild, maybe if her legs were still working. The Westy is like pudge heaves, one thing, everything comes up. Winston's sitting there.
Starting point is 00:11:37 He's heaving like 15 times before he gets a little spittle up out of his mouth. And I don't know what he ate, but anyhow, that's it. That's the play by play of the dogs. The blind Westie vomiting with the paralyzed puggles sitting right behind me. And that, folks, is how the morning is going. April 1st here was a big day in Canada. I'm curious, you know, you sit down south. What did you make of all the videos coming out of RCMP rolling in
Starting point is 00:12:06 and, I don't know, a show of force on a protest on a highway? So I'm like, okay, so the cops are showing up because they want to make sure that, you know, key infrastructure isn't taken over. But man, did they roll in in some spots with, you know, automatic rifles and every, everything else. Well, so for anybody who might not know, that was the day that the carbon tax increase at the pump had occurred. And so there were protests staged across Canada. Not to mention raises for all those lovely MPs. They got now what are they up to their fourth raise since COVID? It's third or fourth. And I'm pretty sure it's the fourth. I think it's
Starting point is 00:12:43 every year. His mother efforts. Um, what do I think of it? Well, uh, first of all, it's funny, which protests they show up heavy handed with military assault style rifles, uh, you know, A populist protest on the streets that they show up for. I saw a hilarious troll of the police. It was a guy following them with a boombox and he was playing like Stormtrooper music, Star Wars music. It's amazing what they show up for and what they don't show up for. So the pro-Palestinian protests that shut down the Champlain Bridge, well, that's shutting down
Starting point is 00:13:18 infrastructure. That goes. Turning Ottawa into an occupation, that goes. But the people protesting are the same. people overlapping with the trucker protests, they're the cops show up to, you know, flex all of their military might without hesitation. Well, I always find it interesting because, you know, for the listener, I think they know, you sit down in Florida now. And, you know, I'm always curious like the outsider view of what Canada's quickly becoming. And, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:47 I forget now, I should check this before I say it, but, you know, it's, it's been about six months since you were last on. Actually, I think a little longer than that. And, I just kind of like, I'm like, wonder what down south is staring at Canada, you know, your former homeland looking at us going, oh, we can't outdo it. Oh, wait, we're going to out do it all over again. I was thinking about it as I was jogging today because it's, Lord, it's always, it seems to be always beautiful, but you got to get your jog on before the sun gets out. So, I mean, I've been down here now. It'll be two years in the summer. It'll be two years in I think it's the fourth of July is when we actually got down here.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I'm seeing it going on in Canada. It's I remember what it smells like to, metaphysically speaking. And it's not possible for anybody who's not from Canada to understand the truly suppressing, suffocating force of the government and the suffocating environment in which you live where people are okay with this and almost some of them want more of it. Coming down, I'm just watching it. It's one law after another. And I was thinking of like, I'm going to put just together a very summary graphic of how it looks when the government. captures the media and what happens when the media gets captured.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And thinking of all of these laws, the online streaming act, the link tax, the gun grab under the cloak of COVID, and it's just one thing after another. What's the latest one? The online harms act that seeks to define hatred and make it punishable by life in prison to promote or advocate genocide. Let the people who are chanting from the river to the sea think about that one for a little bit. So it just it baffles my mind that there seems to be no depth to the madness. It's always darkest before the dawn, but it's also always darkest right before the lights go out forever.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I think we're getting to something of a turning point, but I'm not sure. But it's just it's one law after another, the attempt to redefine hatred. And we'll see if that passes his law. Good luck, everyone in Canada. But then the carbon tax, crippling of the Canadian economy, destruction of the Canadian middle class, It's not unique to Canada. But my goodness, people down here just don't believe it. And then when you raise the awareness about it, they can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Euthanasia, top five killer in Canada now. I mean, people can't believe it. I don't know if I can believe it. You know, some days, some days if you just, if you do what you just did there and just kind of like pencil it out on a piece of paper, you're like, we're pretty messed up. Yes. Since 2015. I mean, it's, and more exponentially since 2020.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But it's, it's one law after. another after another. And the more laws that get passed, the more censorship that gets implemented, the worse things get. The more gun laws that get past, the more gun violence there seems to be. It's a wild thing. The more censorship of freedom of speech, apparently the more hate speech that you see up in Canada. It's a wild inverse relationship by design because the more they make the problems worse, the more they get to legislate more power for themselves, give themselves raises, live in a bubble and crush the lowly citizenry who dare protest and object to it. You know, one of the, you know, it caused quite a stir, but in saying that, like, among
Starting point is 00:17:01 podcasters, I would say, you know, and I guess media influencer or social media influencers as well, but Bill C63, you know, when you read through that and one of the things I enjoy is your background, you know, having the law, you know, it's, you probably have a better way of picking through some of that. So I've said this to late and gray multiple times. I read a bill and I'm like, oh my God, they do this so people like me have a hard time getting through this because it is dry. Even though tight tucked in there are things that are like very poison pills. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:40 When you first saw Bill C63, you know, I guess I bring it up because I think it's really important for people to hear. And certainly no mainstream is talking about it here. like nobody's talking about it up in Canada. It's almost like nobody really knows too much about it. And so I've brought on, I think, one or two people now that have talked briefly about it. From your eyes, what sticks out to you about Bill C-63? I'm going to see if I can pull up the definition of hatred. When you go through it, first of all, you're right.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's drafted in Legally's verbiage. It's a massive run-on sentence after run-on sentence. it's made to be incomprehensible, specifically so that it bores anybody to death who could possibly understand it, confuses to death anybody who's, I say non-judgmentally, who's not able to parse through this crap. It's drafted in such a way that only lawyers can legislate it and only judges can interpret it and they contain poison pills. Let me just see if I'm going to, I'm Googling this. Here we go. Define hatred. And I want to see what the definition of content that foments hatred. I got the defending. Okay, hold on a second. Where's the definition of hatred? Here we go. Oh,
Starting point is 00:18:55 it's, why can't I find hatred means the emotion that involves detestation or detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike. La Hain. There's a great French movie called La Hain. I read that and I say, forget being a lawyer. This is Babylon B level stupidity. It means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than mere disdain or dislike. So don't worry, you don't go to jail for disdain or dislike, but you do go to jail for detestation or vilification. What the hell does that be? So, you know, when I go through it, I go through it on the 30,000 foot overview. What are the biggies here? Well, they're trying to define hatred. That seems ridiculous to me. That seems borderline stupid. I don't know if that's hatred.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Then I go for the penalties because they're enhancing the penalties based on manufacturing, creating new crimes. Then I go for the, you know, the outrageous one was life potential for life in prison for people who advocate online promotion or advocating of genocide. And so I read that and I read everything. This is the one that was just vomiting. So I'm not going to kiss him. But don't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Don't do it. Don't touch me. I say like, all right, that's good. So I go superficial. Promoting or advocating genocide? Fantastic. What does promoting mean? What does advocating mean? And what is genocide mean? This is what I've been saying whenever I do these interviews and my thoughts on this. All three of those words are relatively vague and ambiguous. I don't know what promoting means. I don't know what advocating means. And I don't know what genocide means. And I'm not saying it to be glid. The UN definition of genocide refers to
Starting point is 00:20:38 partial destruction or killing of members of a group. All right. Any murder, which obviously is illegal and I'm so stupid, any murder could be deemed to be genocide if it's killing a member of a group. Okay. Genocide also means linguistic suppression and at least under some, at least under the UN international definition of genocide, rooting out language, which is one of the claims of genocide of the Russians versus the Ukrainians in terms of rooting out religious and linguistic culture ethnicities. Well, in Quebec, you have a French province that has long said, you know, we want to be our own nation and we would it should all be French. Is that genocide? You have the protests going out on the street right now
Starting point is 00:21:23 where there are people who might have genocidal intent. There might others who are genuine, you know, sincere advocates saying from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free. Is that genocide? And is that promoting or advocating genocide? And should these people be risking going to jail for life for words? However much I disagree with some of the sentiment, my position is going to be no and I'll defend them so that they don't get slapped over the head with this idiotic law. So there's that. Then you, then, you know, then as the aggregate knowledge of the interwebs goes in and dissect this, everybody's got their expertise. And you get people really, really exposing some of the poison pills. Ezra Levant posted this. I don't know who the original big brain that
Starting point is 00:22:01 founded was, which is it's almost a retroactive criminal law. You cannot have retroactive criminal law, criminalizing something that wasn't criminal when you committed the act. You can't do it. Well, they found a very discreet way of doing it under this Bill 63, the Online Harm Act, the Online Harms Act, where they say, if you have access to a post that you could delete and don't, and it gets republished or retweeted, well, that becomes a republication for the purposes of application of the law. And so that could be sanctionable. Set aside to the turning human rights tribunals into political jackpots, incentivizing snitching and ranting out of friends and neighbors, financially incentivizing this and basically creating a market to manufacture
Starting point is 00:22:46 alleged human rights hate violations. The retroactive criminalizing of a post that if it gets retweeted or republished and you have the ability to delete it but didn't and now you're exposed, that is Kim Jong-un is now sitting there saying, well done, Justin Trudeau, even I did not retroactively criminalize action. It's phenomenal. the law is a steaming pile of tyranny cloaked in protecting the children. As far as I'm concerned, it has no reason to be.
Starting point is 00:23:17 There's no existing law that does not cover the risk that this purports to address. None. As far as I'm concerned, and if I stand corrected, I'll stand corrected. You have laws against pornography, publishing, distributing. You have laws against defamation. And the idea that this online harms act is intending, to protect the children, whereas the means are already there, it's nothing more than suppressing free speech, suppressing political dissent, and will undoubtedly be weaponized for that purpose
Starting point is 00:23:50 if it ever passes. And my goodness, it shouldn't. Protect the children. Rant over. Protect the children while we allow things into school that we won't protect the children. No, that is, that is, they've already bastardized that as protecting the children. You've got to protect trans children by allowing them to take chemicals to cast themselves, sterilize themselves, mess their bodies up. You're protecting children by letting children harm themselves. It's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It's very, very Orwellian, or I would dare say, you know, I won't say the Nazi-esque, but I'm thinking it's. Harmful content that, you know, like, you know, as I read it, you know, one of the things I'm always, you know, like, okay, what does that mean? You know, I like how you break down some of it because it's like, well, what does that actually mean? And so, you know, harmful content. And then it says means.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And then it has, you know, A through G. and G is content that incites violent extremism, extremism or terrorism. I'm like, well, what's extremism? Definition. Extreme political or religious views, fanaticism. I'm like, oh, crap, I'm already there, right? Like, I'm already labeled in our country as holding extreme political views.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So I'm already screwed. I mean, all of us are already screwed. A lot of religious people, they can qualify a lot of religious people that way. It's terrorism. The freaking true. Trudeau regime labeled and designated the proud boys as a terrorist entity. They've never done anything. I'm not like I say, I'm not defending them.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I'm just stating the obvious. They designate entities that have never done anything as terrorist groups. And now they're just willy-nilly saying anything that approaches extremism where we know what they've done. They called the Ottawa protest extremism. They called it far right extremism. Zenophobia, homophobia, Islamophobia, transphobia, anti-Semitism. It's language means nothing anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And it is intended to be vague and ambiguous so it can be weaponized against adversaries and ideological opponents. Do you see, you know, from where you sit, you know, who was it? Was it Jeff Rath? I want to say that's who it was the last time I added on, folks. Regardless, do you see anything? Like, it's just this just the first bill in a series of many bills to try and figure out how to get it pushed through so that they have something that protects. you know, the online harms act, you know, and, and try and, you know, crack down on all that hate coming from the internet or, or do you look at this and go, there's no way this ever
Starting point is 00:26:17 not, I don't even want to say that. I know that I will never say there's no way this never passes because Canada has crossed the, it's crossed a Rubicon in another realm of the universe. Um, I don't know how bad it has to get. And the, the problem is like, the ideological capture, the media. capture, people are being, I have to say brainwashed. It sounds like a conspiratorial word, but they're being led to believe that this is all normal for the better and they don't see anything else but it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And the worse it gets, the less of any dissenting voice they're going to see. So you get, you get, I was thinking about this. Okay. CBC funded by the government, Rado Canada funded by the government, a printing press, bailed out by the government, digital media bailed out by the government through. government advertising COVID. You have all of the media that reaches 85% of Canadians captured by the media. And all that they're saying is, this is good, this is good, we need more of it. When the CBC, and I only appreciate it in retrospect,
Starting point is 00:27:22 Kierkegaard, life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forwards. An article from 2017 from the CBC saying, reports show that medical assistance in dying won't cost us any money. It might actually save the system money. And you realize what they're doing, but only in retrospect. Now you can apply it going forward. Priming society to think that it's okay and almost beneficial to kill. That's what they're doing. Captured by the media, sorry, captured by the government, or at least controlled by the government,
Starting point is 00:27:51 who has the financial incentive to kill because it's cheaper using their captured media to convince people that this is what you believe. This is manufacturing consent in the Chomskyen sense. It's social engineering in the Tom McDonald's sense. And it's once you see it, you can't unsee it. But when you're in it, you can't see it. And the amount of Canadians who are in it and can't see it, who still believe Ottawa was a violent extremist protest,
Starting point is 00:28:20 who think, yeah, why not euthanize the drug addicts and the mentally ill and the homeless people? It'll save the system money. But it's what happens when you capture it. And each one of these laws is intended to solidify the death grip of the government in controlling the citizens' access to free and independent media, truly free and independent. There's nothing independent about CBC, Radio Canada, CTV, global news,
Starting point is 00:28:43 city news. There's nothing independent. It is captured and it's manufacturing consent and brainwashing people into thinking it's good. You know, we were talking just this morning. We went down to where the protest is happening still in Lloyd Minster on, you know, because the April 1st protest didn't end on April 1st. The plan for all these folks was to stay there and tell the carbon tax. is taken away, right?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Loft of Yol. Noble goal. But what we've been noticing, and, you know, I think this has been a common sentiment among people who during mandates, during the lockdowns, during everything, a ton of them pushed back, a ton of them went to Ottawa, a ton of them, there's been burnout, and then there's been, there's been, I don't know the word to it. associate with it. Demolization.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Sure. And also just like everyone's in the middle of COVID, you couldn't do anything, right? If you didn't take the shot in Canada, you couldn't do anything. You literally, you're losing your work. You weren't allowed to go into the aren't allowed to do this. You weren't allowed to go eat. You weren't allowed to do anything. There was a lot of time to stoop.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So when there was a protest going on, people went. And now, and I'm, you know, obviously people still are going. They just went. But you know, you think this carbon tax hits everyone across the board, all uniquely, except for Quebec. I mean, I don't know how they just, they just love to just like salt in the wound. It's by design. I mean, it's to destroy social cohesion. So that's my sincere belief now.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So you watch it and you go, I don't even think people, like, obviously to the listener, listening to this, I love you all. You are all paying attention. You are all listening. You're all excited to have Viva back on and to talk about these things. But the larger society, you know, is just going along to get along. They don't see the carbon tax. Like, I don't even know if they understand the carbon tax. They're like, oh, yeah, that's, you know, it's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yes, it's just part of being in Canada. You've got to pay your taxes. Good citizens pay taxes. Yeah, but you go listen. You know, I have the folks from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation on here quite a bit. They'll break it down for you in three minutes, nice and quick on what's about to happen over the next seven years. I mean, it doesn't get any easier. And why is Pierre Poliyev's big thing acts the tax, right?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like, and yet I feel like the general population here in Canada, I'm curious, I guess, you know, because you got like the United States has this giant election about to happen in the process of happening. Here in Canada, it feels like people have moved on, and maybe I'm wrong on this, folks, and I would be open to every. everyone texting and everything else. But it feels like people are busy again. And when they're busy, they aren't paying attention. So Bill C63, you know, you're trying to raise the alarm bell. Like, this is bad. This is bad for everyone.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And yet people are, you know, they're allowed back in restaurants, movie theaters on and on. And I'm not judging anyone because I'm the same way. I get to go back into these places. But that's what I see up here, Viva. I'm curious about the states, you know. I'm curious how different different places are. The states, I mean, as far as the carbon tax goes, I can tell you the interest. You don't have it.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Well, the interest for that in the states is virtually nil. The interest for what's going on in Canada is very minimal unless it's, you know, wildly hilarious. So when when Parliament invites a Nazi soldier and they all give them a standing ovation, the interest of that is wild even in the states because it's just it's so, it's so hilariously insane. everyone's interested in it. Like minute details of national politics, definitely less interesting here, unless it's grotesquely shocking,
Starting point is 00:32:40 like what's going on with youth in Asia and Canada. That at least among, I'd say maybe a more Christian religious base in America is of a much greater interest because it's sort of on par with the abortion debate in terms of respecting the sanctity of life. But it's shocking in that, you know, the abortion debate
Starting point is 00:32:57 is sort of symmetrical between Canada the US, it's even more important here. So they don't care about what goes on with abortion in Canada. I would even dare say that most Americans don't know that we don't have any formal criminal prohibitions on abortion at any stage of pregnancy in Canada. At any stage. Well, I think we're one of two countries in the world that has no criminal prohibition on abortion at any stage. So in theory, it's not criminal to abort of, I forget now how many weeks of pregnancy is. I'm going to be a maybe it doesn't mean. You know what I mean? Third trimester, there's no criminal prohibition on it in Canada. And yet, you know, Trudeau and Jugmeet think the accessibility is still a
Starting point is 00:33:33 problem. When it comes to the carbon tax, nobody's going to give a sweetbugger all down here. You know, maybe if something similar starts to raise its head in America, they'll start caring about it. But people care about Canada in America in as much as it's sort of a bellwether as to what's coming down. And so when it comes to the things like euthanasia, shocking, offensive to the spirit, much easier to understand than the carbon tax. So minimal interest in that. The carbon tax, however, is, it's an amazing thing. I think it's an indication of what happens when a government is infiltrated, penetrated,
Starting point is 00:34:08 and beholden to foreign interests because nothing in that carbon tax, as far as I understand it, does anything to actually meaningfully improve the world in which we live, the environment. All that it does is cripple Canada economically, cripple Canadians, and especially the middle-class economically to the financial, economic, and geopolitical benefit of China and India. India to a lesser degree, because I don't think this, you know, we don't really have the discussion as whether or not India has infiltrated Canadian politics, but there's definitely the question and definitely evidence to suggest some beholdenness or subservience to Chinese interests, Chinese Communist Party interests in Canada. So I mean, not that, no, nobody cares
Starting point is 00:34:50 about the carbon tax down in the States. It's going to be a tough one to sell. The euthanasia one is a lot easier to raise outrage about because it's, you know, it's life and death literally and carbon taxes, 17 cents more, whatever, seven cents more, the leader. Nobody cares. Dumb policy. Dumb policy that's intended to break the backs of Canadians and demoralize them further. Yeah, I'm glad you point that out because, you know, I'm sure down in the States, you think the world not revolves around you, Viva, just the United States thinks that. And when you live here, you just assume people understand what's going on in Canada.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And you make valid points of like, Well, the euthanasia is like, that's a pretty big one. You know, like that's, that's, it's almost insane to realize that, you know, like they're, they're pushing for mature minors and depression and on and on drug addicts. Mental illness, global, not it wasn't global news. It was, I want to say, it had the yellow header, but it wasn't the national post. One of them ran an article saying 66% of Canadians support euthanasia for the homeless. See, that's, that's easier for people to understand because it's also what,
Starting point is 00:35:55 is the what many people believe to be the end result or the necessary result of socialized health care. When it becomes dollars and cents and not human lives, all of a sudden Americans who are pushing for universal health care, it becomes a relevant political point because he's like, yeah, you want universal health care here? Prepare for the death panels, which didn't exist. There was a conspiracy theory a decade ago because what's going on in Canada is going to come down to the states invariably. So that's an easier one to understand.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It's more shocking. It's of more, what's the word I'm looking for? it's easier to sell in terms of eyeballs and clicks. Carbon tax not so much. And that's why I think also Canadians don't really care. They don't want to know what it's about. And they think right now, okay, fine, it's another seven cents at the leader. I'll pay more for gas.
Starting point is 00:36:39 It just comes out of my back pocket. But some of us are going to get a carbon rebate and a beautiful check for 250 bucks in the mail, however many times of the year that comes in. So, no, it's just a little harder to understand. Talk to me about Trump. Actually, just talk to me about the election in general. You know, I sit here and, you know, like, as much as I don't get to vote for this upcoming election, you know this as well as anyone. The American election is something to behold for a full year because it just dominates everything.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And, you know, if it wasn't the United States, if it was, you know, I don't know, Sri Lanka or something, nobody pay attention except it's the United States. And so everybody pays attention. You're a guy who's, you know, does a whole lot on following specifically Trump, but I'm sure other things as well. I just Googled it just to make sure you, unless I'm mistaken, the election, it's not just a season. It's an industry. It says here the 2020 election costs 14 billion dollars. So it's an industry. It's an entertainment industry. It's the distraction industry. I mean, I say it didn't start. This election cycle started in 2020. It's been going on since Joe Biden got elected because there was chicanery afoot, if only following that Time article, Time magazine article. But what's going to,
Starting point is 00:38:01 it's all, what's the word, all engrossing or all encompassing? It's all invasive. You cannot avoid it. It's, we're witnessing. in America, for those who don't know, but basically the destruction of the of the rules of civil Western society. It's not just an election season right now. If it were, that would be one thing. What we are witnessing now is the wholesale weaponization of all aspects of the government against a political rival in no uncertain terms. For those who don't know, I mean, everybody knows Trump's facing 90 whatever indictments. He's got his 38 charge indictment out of New York for the hush money payment to storm.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Jeremy Daniels because he didn't label the payments properly as perjuring Michael Cohen lawyer. Interesting side note, Hillary Clinton and the DNC financed that Steele dossier and they covered up the payments, arguably more serious, but even if we just take it on par, Hillary Clinton was fined $8,000 and the DNC $112,000. No multiple felony charge indictment. We're seeing that. The RICO charges out of Georgia, the Florida case, the D.C. case indictments, civil suits. Trump has been around for 40 years and you would have thought, you know, they've only now discovered all of these acts of criminality. So we're not just witnessing an election. We're witnessing whether or not the United States
Starting point is 00:39:27 of America is going to continue to exist as a constitutional republic or if it's going to get turned into a kangaroo republic by these, these Democrats who will stop at nothing to win elections. But it's great to watch. It's fun to watch. It's a little discouraging at times. It's endless content in that sense. It's endless analysis from a legal perspective. And what I've noticed from the Canadian perspective, it's also endless distraction for Canadians who are angry, upset, suffering under their government. But it's the ultimate distraction because the attention that Canadian politicians place on American politics is deliberate
Starting point is 00:40:06 because it's creating the proverbial boogeyman for Canadians who are angry, may not know why, who are poor, may not know why. They can look and say Trump bad and I don't look at the liberal party or the, the, um, uh, NDP and say these are the reasons why my life are getting worse in Canada. Do you see any, um, I don't know. I, the crazier it gets, I feel like I see a little bit of like optimism in the fact that a few people are starting to be, you know, COVID was, was it on steroids, right? Like I think there was a huge coming out party to a lot of people going, what is going on, right?
Starting point is 00:40:49 It led to Ottawa. Then, you know, the mandates come off and everything goes on and, you know, most people get back to work and everything. But, you know, then some funny things start happening. People start to raise their eyebrows and the more funny things that start to go on, I feel like maybe there's some optimism in that people are starting to be like, well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Do you get any of that in the United States? Or is it so thick with how the media is working? that you're like, oh, no. Like if you're Democrat, you're Democrat.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And if you're a Republican, you're Republican. And if you hate the, you know, the RFK Jr. You're like, you hate them. And there ain't no listening to any of it. There is, I'm surprised at the degree to which certain people are just entrenched, but I say brainwashed. It's not, COVID did wake a lot of people up, but it also broke a lot of people. And it also revealed the vast majority of the people who will go along as they go along.
Starting point is 00:41:44 deliberately sweep it under the rug because they don't want to admit how crazy they got or they don't even want to question what they did. It's a similar thing in politics. There's some Democrats who are just the worse it gets, the more they blame it on their adversary. It's an amazing phenomenon. But then there are some that are waking up to this lawfare politics that's been going on now. And it actually kind of started, I mean, some of these names might not be very familiar to Canadians watching, but the first impeachment was 20, I want to say 18, 2018 or 2019, I think. I forget when, give or take. And even back then, there were some law professors who were typical lefty law professors who were saying,
Starting point is 00:42:23 this impeachment is a wild overreach. And they started getting woken up. Then you get your second impeachment and people are saying, other than the diehard who blame everything bad that ever happens on Trump, others are like, okay, this is getting a little excessive. Then you get the prosecution, persecution of the January 6th where even if you think it was a violent protest, If you think that and don't understand it was a fetterurrection in that it was induced, allowed to happen, set up from the beginning. Well, we can have another. That's an entire episode on that. But then people see how these, the very same party that was preaching criminal justice reform, no cash bond, no cash bail, no pretrial detention,
Starting point is 00:43:02 or all of a sudden licking their lips and frothing at the pre-trial detention, excessive sentences being handed out to these nonviolent protesters, that woke a lot of people up as well. And now, you know, we're entering the era of Trump's border wall was racist in 2016 to, holy shit, we've got a problem at the border in 2024. The convenient mistake in the meantime is now we've got 40 million illegal immigrants who we can use for census purposes to increase congressional seats for Democrats. And we can ask them, you know, we can register them to vote in no voter ID registration states using the last four digits of their social security number.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So a lot of convenient benefits to the disaster. But now you've got the likes of Chris Quartz. Cuomo. I did a podcast with him yesterday as at the time of shooting this. And on the unusual suspects. And he's like, yeah, we got a border crisis. Now, he's not, he's either not fully awake or he never will be in that, you know, he says, it's a crisis. But I blame both parties. Like, yeah, okay, you can blame both parties. But there was only really one political party actually suing Trump when he tried to put up the wall back in 2016. There was only one political party calling him the most evil of all racists for proposing the policy back in 2016. And there's
Starting point is 00:44:11 really only one party that's going to politically benefit in terms of numbers of votes. There's a bit of a uny party aspect to this that the more problems and crises that exist, the more government has work. But you get the likes of Chris Cuomo waking up. Do you know who Michael Rappaport is? Yeah. So Michael Rappant, for those who don't know, foul-mouth, Trump derangement syndrome on steroids. You used to call Trump pig dick and like, calls Marjorie Taylor Green goat face and the most rabid anti-Trumper you've ever seen. It was it was his brand. He was in a movie True Romance back in the day, Copland, good actor and funny guy, lost his marbles.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Now did a podcast or an interview where he said, yeah, voting for Trump is not off the table. Voting for Biden is off the table. So has it gotten bad enough yet? We'll see. But there's going to be always a large swath of the population that are going to be blue no matter who, low information voters, or people who are just too busy with their lives to actually know what's going on, and they'll vote liberal because they think it makes them liberal. They'll vote Democrat because they think it makes them good people.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, it's almost, I don't know how you cannot notice the things that are going on. You know, like it's getting to epic proportions. And I thought it was epic in the middle of COVID, but you're, you've, you've, uh, I thought I thought it was epic after the first impeachment. Then I thought it was epic after the second impeachment. Then I thought it was epic after unleashing the FBI on people who by in large were nonviolent protesters going to the Capitol Hill. I mean, I've had a bunch of them on the channel. I've become good friends with the lectern guy, Adam Johnson.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Everyone thinks the dude stole a lectern. Oh, well, actually, check it out. Hold on. I got to auction one of these off, but this is the lectern guy. Everyone thinks the guy smiling when it was like stole elected. The dude never intended to steal a lectern, committed no acts of violence, committed no. they charge him with theft because he moved the lectern 20 feet. And once you move it over a certain distance, it's presumed theft.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I thought it was bad enough then. I thought it was bad enough when Trump, when what was the first? I'm trying to think of the first civil case. I can't even put them in order anymore. E. Jean Carroll, a bat shit crazy lady making up accusations of sexual assault from 25 years ago. No evidence, no nothing. They changed the law so that she could sue. She sues the window for extending the statute of limitations of the,
Starting point is 00:46:35 the timeframe within which to sue for old alleged assault, it was the window open, the window closed. She filed her suit. She gets a corrupt jury out of New York and she gets awarded $80 million, punitive damages, defamation. You got the fraud case out of New York where they manufacture fraudulent accusations against Trump. He overvalued his properties on which he paid interest on those loans based on the overvalued properties, paid insurance on those. properties, repaid the loans in full. And then I thought, oh, that's, that's as bad. This is going to wake people up. No, when people start threatening to leave New York, a shark tank guy, what's his name? Not Mark Cuban O'Leary. Says, we're going to leave New York. You think it would get bad
Starting point is 00:47:19 enough then, but then I'm talking with people. Like, yeah, well, you know, the people with the money are hedging their bets in New York and the people who don't have the money have no choice. And they still, their misery is disguised or cloaked or subdued by the hatred for Trump. Then you got the RICO case out of Georgia. Then you got states removing the president or sorry, removing the leading presidential candidate from the ballot. Colorado, Maine, Michigan, I think tried it. Is that as bad? How much worse does it have to get before people say, all right, we've gone a little bad shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Let's just back things up a notch and let people vote. Apparently it hasn't gotten bad enough yet for some, for many, but we'll see. But if anybody doesn't know what's going on in the states, it's wild. but I presume the people who don't know what's going on in the states also don't really fully appreciate what's going on in Canada. So they might be nice to hear about a different country and the insanity that's going. I'm going to be on it, you know, because like we sit here and talk about Canada pretty much every day. And, you know, we just, we seem to hit all new levels of stupidity. And to hear, you know, what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You know, you bring up New York and, you know, I just read a story about squatters laws in, in New York. that is, you know, and then there was the video go viral on a foreign man saying, hey, listen, this is how you do it. You find this residence and now, and they break it down. I'm like, this is wild. Yeah, I think they got that guy on gun charges, gun possession charges, the illegal immigrant who was telling people how to make money doing it. Um, no, but it's wild by design. Like, though, it's, it's, it, there's a concept of fractal wrongness. Everything you do it, every step of the way is wrong. You flip a coin, you cannot be wrong 20 times in a row. When you're wrong at a statistically improbable rate, it can't be by accident anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Everything that they're doing in Canada and in certain states, demoralize the public, but also just like encroach on private rights. Now you're like, oh, the squatter laws make no one wants to invest in property. I mean, who the hell's going to want to own a rental when you have to deal with that. Who's going to want to do business? So what happens? Well, you're going to have the government say, well, now we need to, you know, nationalize certain buildings. We need to take more power to provide housing because there's not enough private interests to do it. What do you do? In New York, in the Donald Trump case where he's ordered to pay $455 million, $355 disgorgement and $100 million in interest on a victimless, non-fraud, non-crime.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And then Leticia James, the Attorney General, says, we're going to start seizing your buildings. I mean, he got a stay reprieve from the court of appeal. The joke is almost, we're going to take your building. Now we're going to use it to house illegal immigrants that we've encouraged to come up here because we can't deal with them any other way. It's like create one problem, create another problem, more power for the government that created the problem to impose or enact more stupid solutions that are going to exacerbate the problem.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And then what happens at the end of the day, it didn't take long for Venezuela to turn it to Venezuela. up. It's almost too much to digest. This, and just imagine, like, if you want to feel bad for me, this is spinning around in my head every day. And people don't even know what's going on. I talked to somebody, hold on. I don't remember who it wasn't. I don't think it matters. They did not know that this was going on. Oh, it does that. I remember now. But they didn't know. I was like, you don't, this, this is like, it affects us all, but it's a sign of what's to come. The poo-poo is hitting the fan in America as badly as it is in Canada in different ways.
Starting point is 00:50:54 At the end of the day, though, you hedge your best and you say, where is going to be the last, the last bastion on earth, a place where you can fight for freedom and speak out against the tyranny. I put my money on Texas and Florida, maybe Tennessee, maybe New Hampshire, before I put it on Canada. But I can certainly shine that bright spotlight on Canada more effectively from here than possibly even from Canada, especially if these laws continue to come into Florida. course. You know, it's going to take a team effort, right? Like it's, it's, it's, uh, uh, it's going to take all of us, man. Like, I mean, at various stages to, to amplify the message. It's like, first of all, I can't keep up with everything. And so you got, you got your experts at various
Starting point is 00:51:37 levels and not filtering it up, but people pick it up, share it. And then you network it and then you, uh, lo and behold, it catches fire somewhere. And once it ends up on Tucker Carlson, uh, that's when you know the Ottawa protest now is known to Canada when they had on the I forget his name now but the the trucker yeah I'm don't forgive me I'm feeling philosophical this morning I guess but I was I was reading a Soljanitzen's Live Not by Lies essay I think that's what it's called folks I hope I'm right on that and he he right at the end he says we not be we need we need not be the first to set out on this path ours is but to join the more of us set out together the thicker our ranks, the easier and the shorter this path will be for all of us. If we become
Starting point is 00:52:20 thousands, they will not cope. They will be unable to touch us. If we will grow to tens of thousands, we will not recognize our country. But if we shrink away, then let us cease complaining that someone does not let us draw breath. We do it to ourselves. Let us then cower and hunker down while our comrades and the biologists bring closer the day when our thoughts can be read and our genes altered. That was, you know, written in the 70s. Is he the one who wrote the Gulag Archipelago? Correct. And he has an essay that's, you know, honestly, I'm a decent reader.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I would say above average. But when I think of like legal reading, you know, Bill C63, I'm an awful reader. So like that read is probably 10 minutes. Like his essay, it's. Yeah, that's one. The Gulag Archipelag. I mean, I'm a good reader in terms of comprehension, but a very bad reader in terms of actually using my eyes because I fall asleep. And I get them on, I get them on audiobook.
Starting point is 00:53:13 The Gulaig archipelagio, I think to double check it. It was, it was intimidatingly long. Oh, it's huge. Biblical law. Guleg archipelago, though, is, you know, I've talked, like in the middle of COVID, I talked about this a tonne Viva, because we'd read the first book of it. I believe there's, is it three or is it two? Oh, I can't remember now.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And it solidified a bunch of things. One, you know, I'm like, you know, I remember this was a really, dumb thought back in the day, but at the same time, it was still my thought. It was like, no government is playing this long game of like year and slow move and this. And in the first, is it 25 pages, is a 50 page, it is real fast. He talks about the big game of solitaire and how a government, some moves happen real fast. Others take years, even decades, and then they'll slide it in. And I read that and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And the next thing, you know, a hockey player, right? I'm reading the guy's book.
Starting point is 00:54:13 from Soviet Russia where they literally did just horrendous things to their population and literally just started pulling them out of the public and he says you know the best thing we could have done is went kicking and screaming except everybody went you know oh yeah quitely quietly you're right thank you so yeah we'll get this we'll get this cleared up and then it didn't
Starting point is 00:54:31 and in there he writes something along the lines of and I had to read it probably no less than 20 times over because it bothered me so much being a hockey guy that the story they were going to tell the Gestapo, you know, the bad men was at, oh, I was over at my buddy's house watching the hockey game. And now I'm butchering it a little bit because it's been a while since I read it. But I was like, hockey game. What is he?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Because, you know, for us Canadians, I think that's, you know, kind of the nature of Canada, right? Oh, we're just over watching the hockey. It was a big deal. And here in Solzhenitsyn's book that, you know, he was thrown in the ghou legs and then writes this thing and it becomes this like world. beacon of, of, you know, standing up to the authority. He's talking about, you know, when you're arrested, the story that we were going to say was that we were watching the hockey game at a buddy's house. And they're just going to slowly beat you down until you break and you say something on your buddy so you can get out. Like, I mean, that book is dry.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'll be the first to say it is not this like the hot. I just look at the volume one is 25 hours and 56 minutes. Volume two is 27 and a half hours and volume three is 22 hours. There you go. Three volumes. But it's important. No, it's important. Well, I need the Cole's notes or, you know, the essays are better because the essays get the gist of the volumes. But you know, the people who have seen it know what it look like.
Starting point is 00:56:03 The people who have seen it know what it looks like and the people who have never seen it don't. And so they don't know when it's coming. And so like when you know, when I go to Ottawa, And I was down there on the street and, you know, I'm talking to people who actually escaped from Soviet communist totalitarian regimes. And they're all like, I know what it looks like. I know what it smells like. This is what it looks like. This is what it smells like. And then you got your government worker wearing a mask who says, I'm not judging the mask.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I'm just saying these are broken people saying you have no business talking about communism. This is not a communist country. This is a free country. And, oh, and you're Jewish. You should know better than to make comparisons to the Holocaust. It's like, I'm, my grandfather escaped from Poland, 1936. I'm not saying that that gives me any more or less credibility, but maybe think about what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So, yeah, you need to hear it from the people who've gone through it because they have these singularly unique insights. But too many of us don't, and they forget, and it repeats. Here, here, maybe I'll just put it in the show notes. That's what I'll do, folks. But regardless, live not by lies. Solzion, instant, penned it, or released the text, live not by lies on the day he was arrested February 12th, 1974,
Starting point is 00:57:12 and the next day he was exiled to the west. So live not by lies is a way that he, you know, it's a, it's a very succinct way of like, just don't live by lies. Now, I'm not saying it's easy. I'm saying the argument makes complete sense. And in today's world, it makes utter sense because all we do is, you know, I sit and talk to Paul, like,
Starting point is 00:57:37 politicians drive me nuts, Viva. I'm sure they drive a lot of people nuts. But they talk in this like double language, right? You know, here in Canada, everything is carbon. Carbon neutral, carbon 30, 2035, 2050, we're going to be carbon neutral. We're going to make the safe planet. We're going to do all these things. And then you get them out of way from the mic and you're like, yeah, but that doesn't
Starting point is 00:57:55 me. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, like I totally agree. And they'll say off the mic, the things that pander to one crowd, then they'll go down on in the mic and then they'll talk about others. And I always come back to in a closed door meeting with a prospective Saskatchewan politician he'd been a part of politics for a very long time. I don't use his name because that was the confidential of it.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Got asked what a woman was. He was a rancher. So he literally deals with livestock. And he did this like little dance in front of us. Like just kind of shifted in his chair. And he goes, well, I believe. And then he went on to talk about X, X, X, X, Y, and body parts, whatever. And then second question.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And he said, well, I believe. And I'm going at finally went, why do you keep saying, I believe? He said, well, as a party, you know, like the cities think different than the rule. Like, yeah, but it's, it doesn't make, it's, it's complete another lie. I don't give a crap what people believe if it's a lie. Correct. So, so this is, this is where we're at in the world where we have our politicians that believe the only way to win in their game is to pander to both sides, even though one side is telling complete,
Starting point is 00:59:07 falsehood. There's no factual benefit to it. Tim Poole put out a tweet yesterday. It's a headline from the paper, which I had to double check. Transgender Utah prisoner castrates herself in protest of being denied hormone treatment for two years. At one point, you're reluctant to do it. Nobody wants to make enemies, even if it's with bad people. And then at some point in time, you realize, judge me by the enemies I have made. If it is, if it will make an enemy out of someone for me to say, I will never in a million years say castrates herself or her penis unless it's in that infantessimally rare intersex a person who is born with both but is still nonetheless gamete wise one or the other. Yeah, at some point you become fearful of defying the living
Starting point is 00:59:57 the lie and then at some point it becomes liberating and that's it. Cancel me. But I'm not going to call Dylan Mulvaney a she. I'm not going to call Leah Thomas A Shee, and I'm not going to say that it's fair and acceptable for men to compete in women's sports, period. And I'm not going to live the lie, and I'm not going to promote to the degradation of the evolution of human intelligence by denying the most basic element of human biology. Well, that's right there is Solzionettes and Edson's live not by lies, right? That's what you're talking about on that specific example is exactly it. And you know, if there is a cause for some optimism like Riley Gaines and the NCAA and the things that have been going on in that
Starting point is 01:00:43 realm looks like there might be some common sense starting to poke its head up. There's an awful put in there. Okay, everyone. Yes, it will get bad enough that people are going to say enough is enough. It's going to get bad enough that the courts are going to have to come in and decide. I think it's Title IX. Does Title IX include biological males? And I say biological males. I said I'm not going to use that term anymore. Does title nine include men who think for whatever gender dysphoric reasons or preferential reasons that they're women? Does it include them? The answer is a hard no. And there's also a pun in there. The bottom line is it was never about denying anyone
Starting point is 01:01:27 any rights. It is in fact about ensuring that women's rights do not get prejudiced because of the either capricious or sincerely held beliefs of men. Dude, do whatever the hell you want. You can do that. And unless someone says, you can't do that to yourself and live the way you want to live, that's one thing. Nobody's saying that. They're saying that your life choice cannot impede on someone else's biological reality. And that is not violating your rights. It's protecting her rights. And we're going to get there. The courts have to get in. And then there has to be just a shift in the political zeit guys. In as much as I think there is a bit of a shift because I think we're going back to an era now where people can use the word retarded without getting canceled.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And I put out a tweet last week. It's kind of funny and it's kind of, you know, saucy. But I said like, it's wild. They right. Like we can use the word moron, imbecile, idiot. All three of these terms have the exact same clinical definition as retarded. Mutatus, mutatus. I forget which one is which. Idiot is an IQ below 75. Moron is below 50. Imbeciles, somewhere along those lines. But they were all clinical terms to diagnose or designate people of low IQ. They're used to insult stupid ideas. It's like those three terms, imbecile, moron, and idiot all had the same sort of clinical definition, but we can use those with impunity.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Retarded became the one that was a cancelable offense. And I said, F that, that's retarded. I mean, it was hilarious. But at some point, at some point, we're going to take a step. I can say, like, no, there has to be some common sense. There has to be a world in which we're not walking around looking to take offense. And where the very speech that we're trying to pass off as hate speech is the very speech that needs to be protected because you don't actually make anybody stronger by coddling their spirits from perceived slight. So I think we're getting there.
Starting point is 01:03:17 We're getting there. I don't know if it's yet at the darkest, but we can go a little faster, couldn't we? You go faster and it can go a little quicker, but a bit quicker. But we're getting there. And when you see a six foot three man with a penis holding a trophy that in a race that was for women, while he was having sex with women, by the way, he was still having relations apparently by all accounts. It doesn't matter. But when you see something like that, you know, that's all well.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But it doesn't matter, folks. It doesn't matter. He identifies as a woman. He's been competing as a male in men's category for the last however many years, wakes up one morning. He says, well, now I'm taking chemicals to count. interact my biological advantage, but there's no difference between men and women? What the yeah, we're getting there. And the more people that start to push back relentlessly,
Starting point is 01:04:06 remorselessly and humorously, I think the faster that shift in the zeitgeist is going to happen. And we're going to push back the Overton window. I don't think there's anything wrong with the word retarded. It's humorous. It's crass. Yes, that's why they used it in Billy Madison. That's why they used it in that other one there, Tropic Thunder. It's crass and it's humor. but it also has a very definite purpose. The retarding of the spread of information is information retarded. So you have flame retardants and you also have intellectual retardants. So we'll bring that word back.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But no, there's a bit of a shift. We, for anyone around my area, Lloyd Minster, April 12th, we have April Hutchinson, Canadian powerlifter who's been suspended from powerlifting because of speaking out against a man competing against her. And Linda Blade, you know, former track star back in I think it was the 80s, if memory serves me correct. Apologies Linda. And then like a lead athlete coach, she has written a book that is fantastic. Anyways, they're both coming to Lloyd Minster and they're talking about it. And I look forward to meeting April in person. And then of course, Linda's been here before for listeners. But they're both going to be in.
Starting point is 01:05:25 in town. And, you know, a lot of that's just information, right? Like, and just credible people, not that you have to be that credible to understand a man can't be a woman. But, you know, sometimes, sometimes you just need the person to come in and sit everybody down and have a grown-up conversation and just be like, listen, listen, folks, this doesn't work. There was a twist in that story as well where I think another man came in and broke all the records of the, you know, the trans competitor. And then that person was saying how unfair it was that this guy came in and beat all of his records, but he wasn't a real trans. Did you see this? I don't know if it's the same story.
Starting point is 01:06:04 It has to be because there can't be that many male bodybuilders competing with women. So it's a wild thing. Yeah, they don't ban the man competing against women. They ban the woman who complains about a man competing against her and stripping them of their records, their titles and their accomplishments. It's an up. It's idiocracy. Like we're living through idiocry. even that movie had a happy ending i think kind of yeah they got off to go watch it again i have two
Starting point is 01:06:31 things two things uh united states um you you could tell me you you know nothing about it that's totally fine or or we could talk about it one one is puff daddy pditty whatever you want to go with and and and what's been going on there the fbi raid in his house everything you know dhs department of homeland security sorry yes he's done something he's either done something very It's so funny. I don't know. I mean, look, there's definitely people who know more about this than me. I've never been interested in Puff Daddy in general.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I loved him and get him to the Greek. But now I look back at those jokes and I'm like, yeah, those jokes, there might have been some truth in those jokes. So what do I know? Puff Daddy, he's under some sort of sex trafficking investigation involving the Department of Homeland Security. They've raided his house. They've seized a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:16 They've arrested his drug mule, some 24-year-old kid. Stories of Puff Daddy's past are coming up now. interviews that other people gave are resurfacing usher when he was young and on the Howard Stern Show was talking about what happened when he was even younger living with Puff Daddy, 13-year-old kids seeing things that he shouldn't have been seeing at the age of 13 in Puff Daddy's house. Why a 13-year-old kid is there with a third. It's all messed up. It's all degeneracy. I'm withholding any sort of judgment because there's any number of ways this entire conspiracy can go. Some people are conspiring or conspiracy theorizing
Starting point is 01:07:51 that DHS is going in there to seize and destroy prejudicial evidence. Like Puff Daddy had some shit on some people and they didn't want him having it. So he'd stopped playing ball at some point. Now they're arresting him, investigating him, seizing, evidence that they're going to destroy because it involves their boys. When I think of Joe Biden, and I think that pretty much everything he and his administration does is corrupt,
Starting point is 01:08:16 even if it's right in theory. Let's just say there's a legal basis to go after Puff Daddy. there's going to be a corrupt element in there. Maybe Puff Daddy had some shit on Hunter Biden. Who knows? But it's serious and it's wild and it's a world of perversion and degeneracy. Demonic perversion and degeneracy that I want to have nothing to do with. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:36 We'll see where it goes, but he's in big trouble. From what I understand, he's on an island that has no extradition policy. As of now, they're raiding East Coast, West Coast. And apparently there's some nasty dirt in there that he was running something of a Epstein, type cameras in rooms, blackmail extortion ring. But we'll see. That's a, that's all I know about that. Well, it's, uh, nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Nothing seems to shock me anymore. I mean, it does and it doesn't. Uh, but you know, like the Epstein thing obviously, you know, came out. And then, you know, the, you're sitting there staring at that and, and, and, you know, how that story goes and then he kills himself and on and on and on. He didn't kill him. He didn't kill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Thank you. Uh, and then you see, and then you see all these different things coming out, right? I don't know the timelines on everything and I'll jumble it up, but you had Weinstein, Harvey in Hollywood, right, and all that come out and you're like, oh, that's. And play it all back. There have been jokes and comments and innuendo for years about podcast. For years. Jokes innuendo about Epstein for years.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Jokes and innuendo about Weinstein for years. They all know it. It's a, it's, like I'm not a religious person, but it's, it really is a world of disgusting debauchery and everyone should avoid it at all costs. nothing can surprise us. But the bottom line is the degree to which nothing can surprise us, there could be many twists and many turns. I don't think Pop Dad is innocent of, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:59 I don't know what he's innocent of. I don't know what he's guilty of, but I sure as hell know that he's not innocent of everything. Of everything. Yeah, 100%, right? Like, there's way too much smoke there. And when you go back through the interviews and the comments and you start, you start to look at, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, like, you know, it's funny, whether it's naivity, whether it's because you know back then uh definitely a younger guy had not lived through COVID COVID opened my eyes to an awful lot uh as it did to a lot of folks who listen to the show um you know like you just I was just naive to it I just didn't really pick up on a whole bunch of things that were right in front of your eyes now it's hard not to it's like oh that now now if you don't it's almost like you haven't learned the lessons of COVID yeah fair when I was talking with Chris Cuomo and and you know I talk about the design of by design flaws of the immigration issue.
Starting point is 01:10:51 He's like, well, I don't see that yet. It's like, dude, we've lived through COVID where they lied about everything at each step of the way. And if one does not appreciate that, one has not learned the right lesson or one is just very slow to actually appreciate it, which can be true as well. So you have to be nice and welcoming. And patch you on the back. Say, look, it's worse than you think. But you'll get there. Yeah, I mean, we've all gone through it.
Starting point is 01:11:16 But it should be the first reflex now. And it should not only not be shun or criticized, it has to be encouraged because we know what they've done now for the last four years, eight years, if you include the election, Russia gate, all this crap. We know. They lie. They conspire. They cover up. And then they demonize anybody who tries to expose it.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Anyone who tries to go against the narrative, they create it. As soon as you go against the machine, well, I mean, we've seen it happen time and time again in both countries. Right? Like Canada is no different than the United States in that way. I'm going to say this is this is what I'm looking at right now. She's sitting there just stare. This is the paralyzed one, not the one who vomited. Just sit there staring at me like like like I don't even know what she wants. I fed her.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I click now she's she's approaching me. John. Oh God. No, it's it's it's to the listener. He's talking about his dog. For anyone listening to all podcasts, I showed a picture of my dog staring at me as though she wants something because you're going to hear her wine in a second. Puff Daddy was the one thing.
Starting point is 01:12:18 What was the second one? Well, I tell you what, this is what we're going to do. We're going to take a brief pause. We're going to head over to substack. And that way, if anyone wants to hear what the second one is, they can come on over and hear a substack exclusive with Sir Viva Fry.

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