Shaun Newman Podcast - #615 - Miranda Courts

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Mom, wife and concerned citizen. Miranda is the spokesperson/organizer of the Lloydminster “Protest Against The Carbon Tax” which is happening at different locations across Canada. She updates us on the first week of the protest which at one point had a standoff with the police this past Saturday.  SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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So buckle up. Here we go. Okay, welcome to the Shotnewin podcast today. I'm joined by Miranda Courts. We're sitting on the east side of Lloyd Minster, you know? I was telling you that I'm like, well, hey, thanks for letting me throw you on here. I'm sure you're thankful to have somebody come down and talk to you. but when I drove by on Saturday, I told Viva, I had Viva Fry on this morning.

And I was like, I don't know, I just a little disheartened that there wasn't 10,000 people here or something. You know, I don't know. I don't know what I expected. But on Monday, I was like, you know, pretty disheartened. I know a lot of people were. And then you guys held the line, held the line, held the line, stayed here. And on Saturday, when my wife called and said, what's going on down at the protest? Like they got it blocked off. They're diverting traffic.

I'm like, I don't know. And I drove by and I don't know. you probably had to count. How many cops were down here on Saturday? 30. 30. For 14 cars in front of us, however many up on the blockade, and then 30 cops. Yeah.

I was just telling you before we started, you know, when I was watching the videos of Calgary, you're Cochran, I should say, you know, I'm watching, you know, like the car. I'm like, what is it going on? You know, like, you know, I don't know, maybe there's something I'm missing out in Calgary. I'm not there. But when you can just hop in your vehicle in Lloyd and drive down and see what's going on, I'm like, this is wild. And it got people text to me that, you know, aren't protesters, I would say.

But, you know, we're driving in and I'm watching. It's not like all of a sudden the highway shut down by you guys. It's been a pretty peaceful protest. I would say you could probably explain a little better than me and to the listener. But, I mean, pretty wild to take a two-minute drive and be able to see that many cops sitting on the side of the highway. And we're like, what are they doing? And the thing is, you know, you've been to, well, for kids' sake helped with the last protest

and Lloyd and you've been to some of our meetings, like to know like it's grandparents and kids and like I'm like, this is, this is pretty wild. Yeah, I never in my wildest dreams did I see that coming at all. Definitely did not see that coming on Saturday, especially for having done nothing, nothing. When you, you were telling me about the cops. Like I think of it, I'm like, oh, they must have brought in a whole bunch from Saskatoon. Tell me about the, the, the cops and where they're all from. So my understanding is that I know of at least a few of them that are from the East, Ontario, Quebec for sure that that were there that day. And walk us through Saturday because you're the lady sitting here. I watched your live stream. Like, you know, like tell the listener,

you know, from your eyes what was going on. Like, were you guys moving pylons and trying to get on the highway to block it off or something? Absolutely not. We were nowhere near the highway. We were nowhere near the shoulder. We were in the grass area of the ditch. And we had just, I wouldn't even say everybody was even there. We had just started kind of crossing from there's a hill that we've been on, that it's private property that we're allowed to be on because, of course, they can't stop us there. And we had decided to get closer, the little closer in,

because there is some billboards and stuff that kind of block us a little bit. And being that it's public property and being that, you know, know, under the protesting act and stuff like that, we have the right actually to protest on a road. And they don't seem to understand that, or they're reading it differently. So we didn't approach the road, though. We crossed over, just passed, there's a creek, and we just passed the creek, and I would say probably maybe 30 protesters had just crossed the creek and we're in the grass.

And within 30 seconds, there was approximately 16 cop cars. and 30 police officers on us immediately. And what did they say? They just kept telling us to get back, get back, get back. And of course, being the organizer, I started trying to talk to them and say, like, what's going on? Why are you doing this? And they said, you're not allowed to be here. This isn't the safe zone.

You have to talk to the liaison officers. That's the other thing. This has all been really crazy about is I can't talk to anybody actually in charge. I keep getting from these liaison officers that come in and they come and they come and talk to me a couple times a day and I'm told, you know, well, we'll take it back to our superiors. We'll take it back to our superiors. And I keep asking over and over again, I want to have a face-to-face meeting with your superiors. Because every time I ask these guys questions, it's, we don't know. We're just doing what we're told. We don't know. We're just doing what we're told. And so I'm getting

lots of non-communication, really. And there's some very big question over what, they're allowed to actually police when it comes to the ditches of the highways. And there's obviously a huge amount of question over what the acts out there save for protesting on the side of a highway. And they're, in my opinion, they're proving more and more that it's all about them just having the power to tell us what we can and cannot do because they can't stop us from protesting. So we're going to just pull all of our power to stop you in any other way we can. Well, I told you that, you know, it's cool. You said, oh, maybe we should go outside.

I'm like, yeah, I kind of like the honking going on in the background. Hong Kong. You know, when I basically, I'd lost a little bit of hope in the overall protest. I'd interviewed Mr. Fields on it, and I was like, oh, okay, I get it. I think, you know, like when I look at it, this affects everyone. This isn't anyone person gets away from this. Oh, except politicians, because we pay their carbon tax. too. Right. Somehow that doesn't surprise me. And, you know, and, and so I was, I was staring at this

and then they come in heavy-handed. As soon as they come in heavy-handed, they got everybody talking about it again. Yeah. You know, and, and they actually, you know, if they were slowly, I, I, I joked, and you probably wouldn't like this joke, but I, I, I joked, and I don't know if I joked it with anyone, but I was like, you know, if they just, if the cops just left one day, I don't, would anything have changed? Probably not. You know, like, it is, it. It's, It isn't like 10,000 people are there cutting off the highway. I mean, if that happens, okay. But that hadn't been happening.

As soon as I showed up with 30 cops, everybody's talking about it again. It was all the talk today, everywhere I went. And I'm like, I wonder what that does. They just backfired on them by coming in heavy-handed into Lloyd. And in my mind, if they just left it alone, it probably would have dissolved on its own. And you probably don't like hearing that. That's probably not, I know the mantra is, we're staying here until the carbon tax is gone. but I think what you've shown me once again

is just what the cops are and I don't know is it cops I'm gonna maybe go one step higher what the government's willing to do to quash anything that goes against their narrative well you said it right Sean actually it is the government and I can tell you that at one point we had some MLAs that were willing to

help us in filing freedom of information on finding out where these cops are all from both here because we all also had some issues this last week with police presence in Fleming Kerkila location, which is the Saskatchewan, Manitoba border on Highway 1. And they woke up to police, having the Highway 1 completely blocked down. They woke up to being knocking on the windows, and they were being threatened to be arrested. They didn't have anybody even out protesting yet. They were just getting out of bed. And they were being heavy-handed with them already.

And so we had actually reached out to some MLAs to get some help, on filing a freedom of information to find out where these cops are coming from, who's giving the authority for these cops to act, and what is it costing either A, the Saskatchewan taxpayers out here, or Canadian taxpayers as a whole for all of these protests. And the wheels were in motion to do that, and then we received word back from the MLA that they could no longer help us do that because these orders were all coming out of Ottawa.

We can no longer be a public. servant because the auto are the the laws are coming the orders are coming from ottawa so now our civic duty is over great thank you very much for that right tell me about the uh the old man north uh north of town i just heard this story this morning yeah so that's the one thing that uh it's had me very angry very angry the last few days and especially now with what went down here on saturday for for like i said to the liaisons this morning, you guys showed up to a flag party with guns a little bit unreasonable here, right? Especially when, you know, the majority are not young people here, right? That was absolutely called for it because, yes, a few days ago, a gentleman, I believe it's south of Maidstone,

in this area anyways, it was in this area, a wellness check was called for him and not one officer showed up and he was found dead. I believe it was eight hours, nine hours later. Yeah, is it? I went into a ditch in grass and you had 30 cops here. I just, there is no amount of any explanation that you can put on this right now for me

as the organizer of this that's going to have me able to wrap my head around this. On Saturday, I got in word that they'd basically told anyone staying was going to be put in prison? Is that true? No. So the only thing, if that's being said, it certainly has gotten back to me. But I did actually, unfortunately, here this morning that an off-duty officer from, I'm assuming, the Goon Squad, an off-duty officer told some farmers this morning or yesterday that we had,

that they had had to block up the road on Saturday because they caught a bunch of our protesters breaking into the Britannica Fire Department. And I mean, yeah. Where's the Britannica Fire Department? It's just right there. Okay. It's just, it's actually been the police staging area since before we came.

They've got barricades up and they're always sitting there. Were there guys down there? No, absolutely not. None of ours anyways. And they've been sitting there. Police have been sitting there all week. So the road was not closed for that reason. And I don't think a bunch of grandmas and grandpa's went and were breaking into the Britannica Fire Hall.

No. So, and like it's been nonstop because of what they did. It has caused a lot of Canadians to not have the right to protest anymore because now they're afraid to come, right? Protesters were not allowed to come in and join us and help us. They stopped them from that. Even ones that they allowed across the street were left to sit there and walk. as we were faced with all of this and not have any backup for it. And you know at one point even I was threatened. I was threatened that they kept

telling us after the hours went on, they kept telling us that their current position of orders was to provide us a safe protest zone. And considering we've been out here six days already and we'd never had anything like that, of course as organizer again my initial question was, did you receive a credible threat? against us that we need this protection. I need to know so I can tell my people that they can make a decision to stay or go. I need to know whether or not we were being threatened.

And apparently I wasn't allowed to ask that question because all of a sudden an officer came storming right up to my nose and told me that if I spoke to any of the officers there again, I would be arrested for mischief. But what did you say? I guess you didn't get to ask that question. What was so offensive about what you said?

Nothing. I mean, you tell me, was there anything offensive about what I said? Well, I can't put myself in the situation because I assume at that point it's a little bit heated, but no, I mean. I just kept that. I mean, don't get me wrong. Other protesters were obviously very angry and there was obviously probably a lot of obscenities that may have been getting yelled by protesters. But myself personally, all I wanted to know was were we in danger. And I did not think for one second that asking whether we were in danger or not,

would result in a threat of a charge. Moving forward, it is Monday where we sit, this all year on Tuesday, so happy Tuesday, everyone. What is the plan from this side of things? I know the goal was we're starting on May, I'm thinking about May now, starting on April 1st and we're not leaving until they scrap the tax. Has anything changed?

Does there any new updates? Is there things you want people to know in this area about supporting this? You know, there's a lot that. I mean, I think people can hear it. There's tons of people honking as this goes on. This is all day and all night. Like we get at 1, 2, 3, 4 in the morning. You'll still hear honking all night.

The support is there. I think that I think that the reality of it is, is that to get the tax scrapped would need a lot more Canadians that aren't afraid. and Canadians need to know that they don't have to be afraid to come and take a stand and to say no to the carbon tax. It's not something that goes against anything in society other than we're all going broken. I just heard a statistic the other day on the radio blew my mind that they estimate that in the last year in Canada,

blue-collar workers like us, over 300,000 have been. become homeless for the first time in their lives. Over 300,000 Canadians, blue collars. And to me, that's just, that's, I hear stuff like that. And it's like, yeah, I'm going to do this forever. But I mean, the reality is, obviously, I can't be out here six months to a year. And the likelihood is that the tax is not probably going to get dropped until he's gone. And hopefully Pierre holds up to his end of the bargain.

But, you know, well, I guess when I sit and look and I go in Lloyd Minster, I, you know, the amount of honking going on just shows how much support is in this town to get rid of the tax. I would say, you know, a healthy majority of Lloydminster and area would agree with what you're doing. But it's funny, you know, you go like, where does this protest need to be put on to make Justin Trudeau and the liberals feel the pain? Lloydminster, probably not the place. But what you've done here by having the cops all come down heavy-handed on you, I could be really. wrong on this. I'd be curious what the listener thinks, especially if you're in the area. But seeing it firsthand, I was like, this is wild. This is, this is Lloyd Minster. And they rolled in

the cops like you guys were, you know, I don't, I don't even know about to do what. I actually don't know. Because I know a whole bunch of the people that are here. Nothing more than be seen. That's all. We were just trying to move closer because here's the thing. The one thing that we kept getting told by the police was being actually out on the road was was impeding traffic. Now, it wasn't, they did not tell us that was impeding traffic because traffic would slow or come to a stop. The impeding on traffic would come from the distraction of us being on the side of the road. So when they moved us up to, yeah, I know. When they moved us up to the hill, I said to them, are we not still a distraction up there?

And in fact, in my opinion, I think a bigger distraction because we're further away to see so people look harder and longer to see us. So to me, I found it to be a bigger distraction to be further away. they said it didn't matter if we were a distraction up on the hill because we weren't on government land. Has, you know, sitting here and watching the traffic, has there, and it all been a traffic jam because of this? Other than the one they created on Saturday. Not a one.

In fact, I've had multiple truckers who, we had one trucker who stopped here at about 1.30 in the morning and he does a regular run through this area every single day, multiple times a day. and when we told him what had happened because he was sad to see us back off the road he was looking forward to seeing us and he knew that something had happened so he stopped to ask us and I and I told him what happened

and he says are you kidding me? He says I do this run every day multiple times a day even with the one lane half closed he said never once that whole three days was I ever impeded my times were still the same my deliveries were still the same it impeded on me nothing and he's he's hauling

so what does that say right? You know, it sounds like a blue-collar answer to me. That's what it sounds like. Any other final thoughts before I let you out of here? Just, you know, you've had, what are you on? You're on day eight now. Day eight. You know, when you first start on day one,

I assume you have some thoughts and how it's going to go on different things. You probably did not predict Saturday. There was a lady arrested, correct? There was a lady arrested, unfortunately. There was a 61-year-old great-grandmother who was arrested because she had enough. She had enough, and she stood up for her rights, and they arrested her.

She was taken in to the police station. She was held for roughly about six to seven hours and charged with mischief. This blanket mischief, man. Mischiff covers everything that isn't a straight-up capital crime, as far as I'm concerned. Anyways, she was charged with mischief. She cannot come back to the protest site,

and she can have zero contact with me. That was the agreement she had to sign. Yeah. To get out. Yeah. So, and as for what I would want to say, number one is, is, you know,

I realize people, absolutely in today's society, I realize people have to work their butts off in order to pay these carbon taxes and be able to afford a loaf of bread. I get that. I truly do. All we're asking is people,

come out and talk to us. Come and see us in the evening for half an hour. I know last week was miserably cold. This week's supposed to be much better. The sun is the shining right now. It is beautiful out here. You know, so come out and talk to us. We're here on the weekend too.

You know, come and hang out for a little bit. You know, if for no other reason, then to hold your head up high and know that at least you tried something, you know, I don't truly expect in the end that little old Floyd minister is going to be, you know, Justin Trudeau's knife in the side to say, okay, I'm dropping the carbon tax.

but at least I know that I can look at my children and I can look down the road and I can say I did everything I could to try and change things, right? And then the other thing is, is look me up on Facebook, right? Look me up on Facebook. Find out what's going on. I'm an open book. I hide nothing and I generally answer everything.

So, you know, look me up on Facebook. Send me a message. Find out what's really going on. Don't believe anything you hear and see out there. Come and talk to the horse herself because the horse will always talk. And I should, we'll finish off with, you know, you can have your thought on this. But little old Lloyd Minster has been an interesting little ground for a lot of different things. And it's the small things.

You never know what the small things, where they go, you know? In the Bible, they talk about the mustard seed. And I think we know where that parable goes, right? So to me, I don't look at it. Like, you know, I was beating myself up this morning because I'm like, ah, I should have been down there. Should I, should have had more, you know. and on that. And then I left, but I'm like, at the same token,

the cops did us all favor because they walked in there. They were heavy-handed. We all got to witness it. You can't turn your eye from that. I mean, for crying out loud, they had what's called C-8s. They're an assault type of rifle. And, you know, it blows my mind to even say that they had those kind of guns on us. Are you, like, are you kidding me?

Yeah. Again, are you, the crowd is not. We've never shown one ounce of anything in eight days. I mean, I don't think that we're building up and just waiting to do it, right? I could not believe the amount of artillery, the heaviness of the artillery that they had on us and the absolute atrocity of peaceful protesting, right? Your birthday yesterday? Is that true? Yes.

It was my son's birthday yesterday. Oh, yay. So happy, happy belated birthday. Thank you. Yes, yes. He was, people were texting me this morning. because part of his birthday, I had to run down in the studio to do the intro for this morning's interview and for people listening on Tuesday yesterday's interview. And anyways, and so he was a part of that for his birthday.

So everybody was getting a kick out of that. And I didn't realize it was your birthday. If there's a business or a person that wants to come, you know, that maybe they want to, like, I'm looking over here at what you guys got with water and everything else. Is there anything you're short on? Is there anything you're like, you know, you need a couple of extra Canadian flags, you know, I don't know. anything in particular? Honestly, the only thing that we ask, like, and it's another thing,

like we're very well fed out here. People have been donating. It has been absolutely amazing. Generally, there's three meals a day. There will always be pancake breakfast. So if you're out and about in the mornings, come for pancakes. What time is pancakes at?

Usually around 9, 30, 10 o'clock. They have breakfast out. But come down, because we do. We have the food. We're happy to help anybody who's struggling. come and see us. We're happy to help you out there too and give you a meal or two or three. And, you know, we've got tons of space for camping. Bring your campers, bring your tents.

Just be a presence. Just be a presence. That is the biggest thing we need out here. Had we had the presence on Saturday, we would have finally been able to maybe push back and stop being run by such a police state. And that's exactly what it was on Saturday. It is, we are the boss, comply and conform, or this is what's going to happen to you. you. And, you know, that 61-year-old great-grandmother, I got to tell you, first time she's

ever been to a protest in her life. First time she's been to a protest and gets arrested, folks. That's something she'll be able to tell her great kind of kids, you know? And what a proud moment, right? What a proud moment for her, because, you know, that's exactly it. It's the stories that are, that'll get passed down. Because these are not stories, these protests are not stories they're going to write in the history books. We have to keep those stories going, right? And we have to keep the knowledge going that this is out here. And the last thing I guess I'll tell everyone is over the next couple days, you'll see us in town. We're going to be boots on the ground.

We're going to have pamphlets with information and different things that we'll be bringing out to all the superstore. We'll be at the superstore. We'll be at the mall. We'll be at Walmart. We'll be at all the major centers with the information too. So look for us over the next couple days too and just reach out and have a conversation. Because right now with everyone becoming homeless, starving and having these financial struggles, the only thing we have left is each other.

And if we can't come together to support each other, even a conversation, then we're all doomed anyways. Well, I appreciate you, giving me some time today, and we'll probably check back in here at some point. And either way, keep doing what you're doing, because when I heard they had all the cops, I'm like, do they realize they're going up against Miranda? I'm like, this ain't our first rodeo.

No, it's not actually, right? The convoy gave me. a lot of Cajonas. Well, and I think of, I think even before that, I, I remember hearing of people arrested in, in Calgary and in the middle for like not wearing masks and not by, and I remember thinking, ah, it's just Calgary. And then, of course, the, uh, the, the pool incident. And you were the lady who got arrested for not wearing a mask, if I'm correct, at the,

at the Lloyd Minister Leisure Center. For three, and I'm not kidding you when I tell you this, I was, that went down. I was beaten by seven cops, uh, broke my wrist, smashed my forehead. did a whole bunch of damage to me out in the public in a bathing suit because I didn't wear a mask for 3.6 seconds. Oh, that was a world. That was a world. And God for pass out of. Thanks again, Miranda. Thanks, you're welcome.