Shaun Newman Podcast - #617 - Daniel Roy

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

Daniel Roy released his debut “Country Sonata”: “Skies We Knew Back Home” on April 8, 2024. He is an Ontario boy who left Canada in the middle of Covid to a brighter future in Austin Texas. Here is Daniel’s Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AhuHxIZ7w4 SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail]: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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and we'd love to see you Sunday morning 9 a.m. Okay, that's what I got for you. Yes. How about now we get on to that tale of the tape. He just released his debut, Country Sonata, Skies we knew back home. He's living in Austin, Texas. I'm talking about Daniel Roy. So buckle up, here we go.

Welcome to Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Daniel Roy. So first off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Absolutely. It was a pleasure. I was just recounting to you how in my world these things kind of, you know, like David wouldn't know this because I didn't tell them. But I was searching for a guest last night. I still didn't have a guest and I'm like, ah, normally I got like 10 guests and I'm like, ah, I got to stop talking to people. But every once in a while, I get in, you know, I get in this rhythm of where you go too hard and then you slow up.

And then you're like, you know, if you've ever maybe surfed on the back of like a wakeboard or a wakeboat, sorry, you know, when you hit the top, you're like, oh crap, I got to get going again. that's the moment. I'm like, I'm almost ready to fall off and I started to push down. And I was writing out names of like people that I'm like, I should probably reach out

to this person to have him back on. David Parker being the one. And I looked down on my phone and he goes, hey, you want a guest on your podcast? I'm like, uh,

actually, yes. You want to come on? He's like, no, no, no, you got to interview Daniel.

Okay, fair enough, Daniel. Let's, let's hear a bit about your story. Where are boats you at? And, um,

I don't know, tell us about yourself. Yeah, um, Yeah, first of all, it's a pleasure to be on. But yeah, so I grew up, like, playing music my whole life. Just, you know, I'm always a church piano player and stuff like that. And I always kind of grew up with a love for it.

And I, you know, I went to music college for music. So I, like, studied, like, the theoretical aspect of things, you know. And, you know, studied jazz, studied classical and all that. And I just found that, like, there was a, sometimes that stuff can get too academic, you know? And so I was always into kind of like the, you know, as you put it, like the gospel aspect of music where there's, and when I say gospel, I just mean like the soul that's infused into the music, you know, where it's like it's about the emotional content that you're communicating more than the notes themselves, you know? So that's my kind of like approach to. So you're not Taylor Swift?

No, I mean, I'm not a Taylor-spezzitator. I take her songs, some of them, you know. No, I mean, I would say that, like, I see myself somewhat as like a songwriter, of course, but like a composer, you know? Like, I really take pride in, like, crafting tracks, you know what I mean? I think throughout a lot of the project here, there's a lot of, like, really just cool moments where there's a lot of just, like, in my opinion, kind of, like, cool, like, musical transitions and stuff like that where you kind of enter a new landscape and stuff and being like really intentional in trying to craft that stuff. But yeah, that was kind of like the musical philosophy to this current release.

And then just the conceptual philosophy, I guess, was centered around. Well, the first song, Lord of East Garfraxia, it's about, it's loosely about my grandpa, but it's about anybody who kind of, you know, but overcoming adversity. and the concept of, you know, working yourself to the bone in order to achieve, like, freedom, independence, like to chart your own course in life, you know? And then the second one, sacred things, that's a song, or sorry, yeah, that's a song on this project that's about, like, relationships dying. and it's like there's a line in there that goes,

I've been reckless and vulgar with sacred things. And so it's just about like taking ownership for like the passage of time and how that you're responsible for that. And yeah, and then people where I'm from is just about like kind of people back home and stuff like that. But yeah, I put this together. I was born and raised in Dunville, Ontario

and lived in Ontario my whole life up until a couple of years. ago and I relocated to Austin, Texas. It's been a cool transition. Why did you why did you leave Ontario? Um, you know what? I never thought that I would honestly like I was uh I was proud to be Canadian. I was proud of where I came from and then it honestly just got to a point throughout COVID where I was just like I just can't uh I can't put up with people kind of of uh just you know treading on my toes anymore bro you know it's like uh I I just I'm a I'm a big, like, I'm freedom-oriented, you know.

In Lord of East Garrafaxe, to the first song on this project, there's a line that goes, a voodoo gypsy child with dusty blistered feet. I follow freedom and a free man's what I'll be. And I really believe that, you know, I put my money where my mouth was, and I just decided that, you know, I didn't want to live in society, honestly,

that like forced people like people behaviors you know forced their medical choices and stuff like that and that's a whole other tangent um but uh you know i i just highly value that so i just decided a couple years ago to pick up and move to awesome and it's been a great transition i love texas i've uh definitely regained a lot of appreciation for like home too which is kind of really what like the emotional content of this project um that uh it's uh it's dropped on on YouTube it's coming up in Spotify on a day or two but by the time this drops it might already be out but it's really about reflecting on home and having gone far away from things that you know into unfamiliar territory and reflecting on how much you value the like your roots essentially you know

and I thought I actually didn't even go into it intending for it to be a super like uh not not as kind of quote unquote country as it turned out but uh just through like a matter of course, it just, although all the decisions just seemed to kind of like reflect that properly where it was like, you know, because the songs are so much about home and roots and that kind of thing, right?

And, you know, literally being in the country where I grew up. And so a lot of the flavors kind of reflect that. You know, when you talk about, you know, forgive me, I don't know how you put it, but I'll try and rephrase it. It basically, you know, like you're really enjoying Texas, but you also have a new appreciation for home.

What do you mean by that? Like I'm always curious because, you know, like there was a poll that came out. And I've been talking on a little bit about this, but Eva Chippiac, tons of time for that lady. And what she's done here in Canada. She put out a poll saying, you know, if you could leave today and go somewhere else in the world, would you? And I was shocked by the Twitter poll. It was 80% and said, yes. I said, not a chance.

I clicked no. Then I made a video about it because I'm like, I'm not going. And whenever I talk to somebody, it's not that I, you know, I know lots of people that have gone south and I wish them all the best. And I hope they continue to talk about what's going on in Canada and shed a light on it and continue to do their utmost. You know, I think of Drew Weatherhead in particular. Showed out to Drew because he's been he's been one of those guys who's gone down to the States for six months at a time and then come back. And there's a lot of reasons for that.

And I don't hold that against him one iota. But when you say, you know, like there's a new appreciation for home. What do you mean by that? I think just, you know, you kind of when, to some degree, as you kind of alluded to, you know, there's a lot of, you know, with like 80% is an astounding number to say that you would, you know, prefer to leave, right? And it's like, I never once growing up thought that that would be the case for me. You know, I love Canada so much. It shaped me into who I am, which is like very different from, I do have like a dual citizenship, but I see myself as being like raised in like the Canada that I know, right? And then so for to have that like love for a place and the people that like you grew up with and then for it to kind of become bitter or a place that you don't recognize, you know, is very difficult because like we're all predisposed with something internal within us that has like a craving for home to some degree, I think, you know. And for that

to be and and I mean also in the just in a more general sense in the generation that we live in it's like things have changed so quickly much more than at any time in the past you know it's like you know a hundred years ago it's like oh we got like a slightly better wheels for the plow this or for the you know for the cart this generation and uh you know when you look at our generation it's like you kind of grew up like you know in the in the 90s were kind of like an idyllic time we didn't really know it, but it was like there was, you know, it felt like there was world peace, you know, and then you go through like 9-11 and you realize like, oh, your earth is shattered, your world is shattered a little bit to some degree, you know, and then just like various,

like economic crashes and the internet taking off and then like the transition to AI and stuff like that. Like I would say that our generation of any time in human history has been the one that has had to adapt to the most change and where our childhoods are probably the most unrecognizable now. than they would have been, you know, relative to another time in history. So it's, but as far as, you know, going back to your question, like, realizing that like the place that you grew up did give you all these beautiful things, you know what I mean?

And I've kind of, I guess in a way, a bit of a metaphor for just like relationships in general, too. You know, it's like you don't conduct yourself. perfectly with each person you conduct yourself with every time, you know? And you have to, there's a certain grace and, like, forgiveness there. And there's, like, a healing of that, like, hurt, I guess. That's kind of therapeutic, I think. And realizing that, like, you know, even though you chose to, like, move to a different path in life or whatever, that you don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater in your memory and that there

are a lot of like beautiful things that you can actually value you know because I think like for me there's like there's a lot of like resentment to some degree you know it's like there's like just like things shift so so drastically and it's like you know different philosophies emerge on like how people want to conduct their society and stuff and I think you're you're in Alberta correct correct yeah so I think I think like things were fairly wild in Alberta too of course but in southern in Ontario, I would say that that was like one of the worst places to live like in the world for all that stuff where, um, you know, it's just like I had, uh, like literally like cops called on me because I didn't have my mask like, uh, uh, put up to my nose properly or whatever, you know, and uh, just a wild time. It's like, you know, um, I think, uh, it changed all of us, but I think it, you know, opened up a lot of eyes for, you know, how people conduct themselves kind of in a quote unquote crisis. But, um, I think, um, it changed all of us. But, um, No, I mean, it's just beautiful to come back to a place and realize that, like, you know, there is like a, there's a home here. And there's a beauty here.

And with my first song on the project, Lord of Use Gerafrax, it's about my grandpa who toiled the fields out in a farm just west of Toronto, but now we're west of Toronto for like 50 years or 60 years or so. and just like that song to me it represents a few things but it represents like freedom overcoming hardship but also like a connectedness to the land and I tried in that song to really like paint the sonic picture of uh you know they're being kind of like landscapes and like like dirt hills and stuff like that with with the bass and then that kind of like plays off of like a sun beating down And those are the kind of like the sonic soundscapes that I'm trying to create with that song. But really just like a, you know, with that it's kind of like an homage to home as well, right? Where it's like that is land that like my ancestors like knew like the back of their hand.

It's like another like a line from the song is I've pushed this plow until my fingers start to bleed like a weak king withering out in the heat. And to me that kind of represents. And I did like roofing for many years. and just the, you know, it's a different world and a different experience with the earth when you're like outworking outside for 12 hours a day, you know. And I tried to kind of like capture that sonically in the song. So I know that kind of got off on a tangent from where you were headed before. You know, with your background of music, you said you played piano at, forgive me, the church, correct? Well, I did as well, but yeah, I also went to college for classical piano and played a wide range of repertoire from, you know, classics like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin.

I love Chopin. I love Chopin. What is it about Chopin? Oh, I'm so glad you asked about Chopin. Oh, I'm that, yes. So, okay, so Chopin, he was born in 1810, and he is unique among classical classical. composers and that he very rarely wrote beyond just the piano but he's so widely regarded because the piano is such a proliferated instrument and because his work was so profound that he's kind of regarded as like it as far as like classical piano i mean there's beautiful composers as well besides him obviously but um the point being is that he he hardly ever wrote for anything besides the piano but what i love about him is he was one of the ones that truly and actually there's a song on this record that was heavily heavily inspired by a Chopin concerto number two uh or uh is it too no sorry number one in e minor

but uh what he made me realize is that music is emotion and i thought that it was so um profound to realize that like the notes that you're playing when you play chopin are only uh like a sonic representation of emotion you know and that's what music is all about you know i think oftentimes especially in the classical field like people have such a tendency to like you know because it's technical and it's great music and you know people have a tendency to um in that who are in that world to be very technically motivated, you know. But really it's just, it's about like, and you hear it in Chopin, it's like there's like tragedy and like just like despair, you know.

And he to me is one of the goats as far as like being able to communicate that level of like profound human emotion where like, you know. Man, you're going to make me go listen to some Chopin after that. You should, you should. I'll send you a whole list. uh not here here's here's here's my question to you you know it's funny that this this seems perfect timing if you would okay i have an event happening here in lloyd minster in on april 27 and i'm like this close to pulling the trigger on a musical guest if you would okay and i i went to jordan peterson

and i found it fascinating he had uh and forgive me folks and maybe you know the answer this i believe It was bass guitar, but once again, now I'm almost, I'm almost forgetting. But before he started, he had this classical guy playing riffing on a guitar. And I was like, wow, this is super cool. Like I really just enjoy the atmosphere sets. And I'm all about the little details, the little details when you put on a show, make it good or great. It's that much.

So I've been trying to figure out what I want to do. So, you know, I have a full day forum with different speakers. Then I have supper. and as supper ends, I'm like, I want to have a musical guest, but I don't want to have like, you know, your typical singer or something. I just want it to be background noise, but I want to be cool background noise. And I've been talking to a woman who plays the harp because I saw the harp when I was like a college, in college, sorry, and it was the first time I'd ever seen it.

I've never seen one since. And I walked in and I was so mesmerized at how they were just doing it. I'm like, what the heck is that? It's beautiful. It's beautiful. She didn't sing a word. She just sat there and played. And I'm like,

this is something, transcended. So my question to you is, because I've been, I've been wrestling with, do I bring in like a jazz band? Do I bring in, do I find someone to play the piano?

Because there's maybe no other instrument quite like the piano. I don't know why that is. You probably know. I agree. And it's just beautiful. Yeah. Your thoughts on,

if you're going to have, if you're going to have something to, I don't know, set the mood sounds wrong, but maybe that is the right thing. After a full day conference, that isn't like, it isn't like, I don't know. Like, do you get where I'm going?

Absolutely. So is this, are you intending it to be for like kind of like a concession hall, like kind of thing where like hundreds of people will be flocking through? Because the one thing about a harp is like, it's not going to project quite as loud. But if it's kind of like like, like kind of muted conversations or something like that, dude, get the harpist, bro. What do you mean? What do you mean muted conversations? Just like if people are like, it's kind of like a hushed like environment, you know what I mean? where like people are talking quietly, like, you know, over dinner or what have you or something like that.

It would be phenomenal, but it would be phenomenal music for an environment where you could hear it. You know what I mean? If you were to, if there was, there would be like more noise as far as conversations, I'd probably go with like the jazz band just because like they're going to give like a vibe to things. They're going to have a drummer there. You know what I mean? They can kind of like pick up the rhythm of the conversation and there's a bit more drive to a jazz band. But a hardness, though, they're going to paint the room with thunders. fucking, excuse me, with beautiful sound.

But yeah, oh, dude, if you have the chance to hire a harpest and it makes sense, do that for sure. Well, to me, I'm like, well, one would be at suppertime. We're all everybody's eating. You could have that in the background playing. It's only, I've only done it once in my life. And I hate to give away ideas, but, you know, I only got one ticket left to the bloody conference or the forum anyways.

So I'm like, well, at this point, the people that are coming here. Sorry, surprise. I think that's where I'm going. I'm just trying to finalize the details. And I'm like, maybe my idea is wrong. You know, like, when I go back to the first time you ever see, like, I can't think of another instrument. Maybe you, you know, you're a man who studied music.

So maybe you got one. Yeah. But when I walked in the room and the harp was playing, I'm like, it stopped me in my tracks. I was like, that is, that is something. Yeah. You know, that, like you don't see that every day. Is there another instrument out there like that? So I'm also very glad that you've been.

brought this up. This is perfect. So yes, in my opinion there is. And I absolutely am in awe of the beauty of a harp. But I would say that, so me and my friends, actually, while we were recording this project, we were having this conversation because we have a wide range of instruments on there. We've got, like, you know, piano, which I play, like guitars, bass guitar. But then we also, I wanted to have, like, a more expansive sonic palette. So we got violins on there, too. The violinist was including. credible. And then we also brought in a pedal steel player. So if you don't know about pedal steel, it's pedal steel. A pedal steel, like a pedal on a bike and steel. It's like a guitar type thing. You may have seen them in kind of like old country bands and stuff like that. They have kind of like a really bendy kind of sound.

The guy plays with like an invisible ring on his finger just to slide and there's like pedals that kind of like scoop the sound and stuff like that. But the point is we brought in a pedal steel player for this project. And it was, like you said, transcendent. It's just like stuff that like you could. It just sends you into like a dream state almost, right? And what we were talking about with my friends, the harp, to some degree, it's, it's, I mean, the strings are tuned and all that. But there's a real liveliness to the sound of a harp as opposed like, so if you're, you know, listening to something from like a digital source, you would, you'd be hearing like a

replication of the sound, right? And why a harp is so beautiful, you're getting like multi-millions of extra vibrations from the harp in the room, which translates to your ear. And then like, with pedal steel, we're, to get back to the conversation, we were, uh, uh, put, putting, we're just talking about what makes the pedal steel so great. And it's common with pedal steel, violins, voice. They all are like non-tuned instruments. So you have to like, you have to find the note like on a violin. You can scoop between notes and you can do the same on a pedal steel.

And I think any instrument where you can do that really, and I think that's why like electric guitar took off like it did. But any new instrument where you can kind of like waver between notes when you want. to is going to be up there for like it if played correct or not correctly if played i don't know the word because that that actually goes against what what you're saying but played with like such skill to master that that is something that that can trend like that's beautiful in music i get exactly what you're saying to like hit certain things and you're like wow that is that is something i go back to anyone who saw jordan peterson and emminton uh when the guy was up riffing

No, no. Jordan Peterson probably, man, was that last year already? Well, it was for sure last year. I actually don't know how, I think it was last summer. Took the wife to it at Rogers Place. And the guy was playing like he was kind of, the word that comes to mind is nerdy. It's not the right word. But he was like. He was like. As a craftsman maybe. Yeah, like he was into it, you know, almost dorky, but in the best possible way. And he was, he was, he was jamming. It was super cool. And like, it really set the mood for the night. I was like, I like that. Yeah.

You know, the next show I have, although I can't have that guy, I want to start messing with that so that that I can create some of that at the end. Not that I'll probably get it right on the first time, but at the same time, if you never try anything, how do you know what you do and don't like, right? So, yeah, yeah, a musical guy chiming in is really fascinating. Now, is this your first album? Get back to you and the album, I'll pull aside my ideas. Is this your first album? Is it your first try? Or have you been doing this for some time?

Yeah, that's a great question. So I've had like a lifelong journey with music and I've never stopped doing it. And I've done all kinds of like, been in all kinds of bands and stuff like that. Some stuff that we did record and stuff like that. But I found that like it was actually, to be honest, like kind of, I don't even know. I take responsibility as well for maybe not like being able to to manage certain things or whatever. But I just found that I was, there was a lot of people that I had kind of trouble getting to like commit to a project. You know what I mean?

I really wanted to do it. You know, for a lot of people, it's kind of like, yeah, we'll get together. We'll have a couple beers and, you know, we'll have some fun, you know. And then as soon as it becomes like do anything like serious with it or like it becomes. comes like Showtime or whatever, kind of like, oh, I don't really want to, you know. So I, and no, great people, nothing against them personally or whatever. But yeah, I just found that there was like, just creatively, the people that were kind of around were in, tended to be in that vein, which was, you know, led to a bunch of kind of like stops and starts on projects.

So to answer your question, this is my first, like, releases Daniel Roy. and I've been involved in like all kinds of other projects and stuff like that in the past, but this is the first release as... So how much fun has it been to be in Austin, Texas, to release your first album instead of, you know, Southern Ontario? Yeah, it's been great. I mean, the cool thing is that I've kind of got two local audiences of like people that I know here. You know, I've been in Austin for a couple years now.

And so I have a bunch of friends here that we're able to go. you know, stream it on YouTube and stuff like that. And then friends back home and stuff. So it's been, it's been cool as well because, you know, like a lot of these songs are,

like the people that I know in Austin, right? They know me, but like they might not necessarily know like my home. You know what I mean. And that's what I kind of wanted to like lay out, you know, on this project was like, was that feeling of home.

So in that sense, it's been cool too because like I've gotten, I've gotten to share it with a lot of people back home. and just like the things that I wrote about and the experiences that we had and stuff like that, like really resonated on a personal level with a bunch of them. And so that was kind of cool, too, you know what I mean? You kind of like bridge that, bridge that gap. And then, you know, give some of my friends here kind of an insight into, you know, where I grew up.

Not in like a not in a way that like I really wanted to tell the story of like the feeling of home, you know. and particularly the feeling of home, like, growing up in the country. And yeah, I think anybody who, like, you know, had that experience or enjoys, like, rural vibes, would, we'll appreciate kind of some of the stuff that's on there. Yeah, well, I don't know if I'm right on this, because I don't know music as well as you or probably most folks. I do like to listen to it. but to me it feels what did i say folky with only like i don't know is it gospel is it i don't know what the right word there is like like the start of your your your your first song and i'm glad

you've said it six times and not me because i couldn't pronounce the one word i'm like how the heck do i say that um you know is is i think is a verse from the bible correct correct me if i'm wrong it's got a real interesting feel to it right at the start uh you know like uh It's interesting, it's got an interesting feel to it is what I'm trying to spit out. And, you know, like I go, I don't know, I'd be curious what the market in Ontario is for, but I feel like if I saw you playing at a local establishment, it would have a really interesting feel seeing you up on stage. I'm assuming you've gotten to do that several times or lots or like, isn't Austin got this giant scene? Totally, yeah, absolutely.

Like I have stuff lined up right now like every day of the week in Austin, literally. So I was kind of in album mode, kind of getting that kind of put together and stuff like that. And now I'm getting out and like getting great feedback, honestly. It's, I think the recording process is great. But I mean, really there's nothing more gratifying than like playing songs like for people, like in front of people. You know what I mean? To a room. And like you can kind of like pick up on the on the energy that they give off.

And then you're able to kind of go somewhere special where it's like when you're in the studio, you kind of have to like tap into that energy. You know what I mean? whereas in a live performance aspect, it just comes completely naturally because, you know, you're communicating the people that are dealing with human beings right there. Yeah. It's no different. It's no different than this conversation.

It would be a thousand times better. I'm not knocking it. If you were sitting across the table from me and we could, you could go back and forth, body language, everything. Music is a performing art, right? Like you want to have people in the audience to vibe with. otherwise you know it's it's pretty hard to hit all the right notes and play the right tune when you're in this you know i don't know yeah padded walled cell yeah absolutely and actually

um on that note as well it was actually kind of an interesting process for me with this recording experience because it's like as i mentioned before with kind of like my reverence for chopin and stuff like that. I've always felt and known that like music needs to translate to like a visceral emotion, you know, like if it's just notes, don't even bother, you know, like you're not, you're wasting everybody's time. But to your point about, you know, being easier to like tap into an emotion when you're standing in front of like a live audience or when you're performing in front of the live audience, the recording process actually was like, it was almost a little bit, there's almost more emotion than, uh, that I could handle. Because, uh, when I was coming up to

Canada, my, uh, uh, I found, I had this Australian Shepherd that was just like a beautiful dog. Like, I got compliments on him everywhere I went. People would just be like, I'll do like, I got to let you know, like I love that dog. And, um, he, uh, he caught parvo, which is like a stomach. Oh, what? It's called parvo, parvo virus. Okay. And, uh, I had only, uh, I had only, um, he caught parvo, only barely heard of it like a month before and uh but it's like apparently going around and uh it's like super uh super deadly for dogs and like he passed he passed away he's like seven months old when um when he uh you know came when he when he died and so i was like going through that through the whole like recording process and um so as far as like tapping into emotional content it was like

Like I was able to go to some of those places, you know. But yeah, it was a wild, wild experience. You know, I was going back to your media release. David had sent it to me. And one of the lines that caught me, here, I've got to pull it up now. Decades of toiling, sorry, the ground and patching roofs has taught them to give careful attention to that. which is easily taken for granted. I don't know.

Although the small things, as we pointed out here multiple times, really matter. Working on roofs makes sense. Small things actually really matter, like really matter. Patching Roads, you know, I assume the same thing. But how have you taken that into music? I found that interesting to be in a media release on your album. Maybe I'm wrong on that. Awesome, yeah.

Absolutely. I think it's, it also ties into my whole philosophy with music too, where it's like, yeah, I think sometimes, especially these days, right, it's a lot of times, you know, it's just like, it just chords and a melody, right? But I have a philosophy that I live by when it comes to music creation, you know, there's the classic phrase, the devil's in the details. But I kind of like twisted that on its head a little bit. And my approach, like music creation or really like any, um,

any skill acquisition in life is that God is in the details. And it's when you focus on that, like, minute, like the smallest detail in the painting that the rest of it comes to life, you know. Because if you're like the parable in the Bible about the hundred sheep and one wanders off and the shepherd goes to find the lost sheep because he cares so much about that one, as opposed to, you know, the 99 who stayed or whatever. And it's like if you care that much about the smallest things, it's going to add up to like a much larger hole in the aggregate. And same thing with roofing. I mean, I used to slave away on roofs for 12, 16 hours a day. And it's like, you know, even just in terms of like how you get better in terms of like your, you know, efficiency in terms of how you're moving and stuff like that. And, you know, you get stronger over time.

And you figure out like just a quicker way to do things. And it's like nailing patterns. It's like, oh, it works best if I'm kind of going like one, skip, one, three, five, you know? And it's like when you, yeah, I think like any time that you're wanting to, like, achieve something great in life, I think it's easy. And I'm a dreamer too. Like, I love, there's like, you know, there's metaphors of dreams all over this project, you know. but I think I'm a, I'm a, I'm good at dreaming, you know, I can, I can dream all day long.

But what I need to keep focused on is like the details. And that comes over time and, you know, persistence and stuff like that. I mean, for me, it took me a long time to learn that, you know. And I think that's why I wanted to phrase it that way in terms of drawing that comparison between, you know, the roofing. to like how I approach things with music, right? Because it's like you're like, you're building a house in a sense. You're building a project, you know. And there's a lot of little decisions and,

and things that go into like the creation of it, right? You know what I mean? And in the installation of any roof, there's going to be, you know, 10, 20,000 nails, you know? And each one of those nails is super important in terms of like the overall structure of the house. So I kind of just like approached that, took that approach with music.

And I tried to really, honor the details in what I was doing. You know, as you're talking, I'm like, A, I really like that. But I'm like, what did they mean by devil in the details? I think I already know, but I'm like, I should really check it. And here's the devil is in the details. Is an idiom alluding to a catch or a mysterious element hidden in the details.

So that's what devil in the details mean. And what you're alluding to is another way when you put it as God is in the details is the beauty is in the details if you look close enough. And when it comes to music, certainly the little things add up. You know, as a hockey guy, I remember this is such a formative experience. We were playing college hockey.

We're a team that didn't have a ton of money. We weren't this wealthy team. And we had this bit of money raised and we could spend it on anything the team needed. And I was a vocal voice. and I thought we needed a new practice jersey because I remember practice jerseys being junk or something I you know I'm just like

it just seemed the most pragmatic and somebody said we need a goal horn and I started laughing I was like goalhorn we never scored why the heck do we need a goalhorn and it's funny we got the goalhorn I got over you know and the first time that went off you could feel the entire atmosphere the entire building change

and wouldn't you know it we started scoring a bit more and I sat there and I was like Huh. That was a tiny little change, in my opinion. And it amounted to such a huge change in the overall feel of the game of hockey in a building. And, you know, once again, I always, you know, I do my shows right now at the casino in Lloydminster. They got this beautiful 240-person hall with a great stage. and it's got great lighting and it just you can just feel it right just a couple tweaks and you can just feel it and people always laugh at me or they don't anymore i don't think but the staff used to laugh me because i i have this like i'm pretty weird when it comes to shows i don't know where this oCD i think it's ocd comes from but like i get in there way too early i spend way too much time in that place i walk around on the stage i feel how it sounds i feel how the mic sounds

i turn things up i turn things down i turn lights off on like i just want to i want to i want to get it perfect if there is such a thing but to me those little details add up to an experience that the audience doesn't has no idea about now they do i guess but like as an artist you probably are like yeah i get that right like when you're messing with the song and vibing with all these different instruments you know you can try out 17 different things and then all of a sudden bang and you hit it and you're like that's it right there that was the thing and you got to love the process you don't love that you're it's going to be a long old journey yeah exactly yeah i think that's uh You hit the nail on the head, absolutely.

I mean, what it comes down to, like you said, is just absolutely loving what you do, you know? And, like, because you're never going to, uh, put in that kind of, like, diligence or work or whatever. If you don't, like, absolutely love it or you, you know, if you don't like, if you haven't, like, like, ached and yearned over a specific, like, emotional outlay that you want to, like, accomplish by a certain thing. And you're like, it's not quite there. Like, and it just eats you alive, you know what I mean? And, uh, I think, um, with, uh, um, with, uh, uh, um, with, uh, uh, uh, um, with, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, with the with with with in terms of how people like refer to like the devil's in the details and I think like that's true because I feel like if you're not all always kind of like scouring and

uncovering the details like you're not going to be aware of the problems that need to be solved and then like the devil will be waiting for you there there's no doubt about that you know I feel like the devil in the details is specifically towards government documents that they put in and they always hide things and I think what you're talking about with gods in the details I think of like what immediately comes to mind is art and music and a few other, you know, like, there's some good movies out there and a couple different things like that where I'm like, oh yeah, that's the beauty of the world, you know, whereas when you've got some law, some bill getting passed, like Bill C-11, Bill C-63, they got this long thing that you got to try and

cipher through and you know, and then somewhere in there is a line that says we're going to screw over podcasters. I mean, tongue and cheek, but you get the point. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, yeah, totally. Absolutely. And I think also, too, like you can apply the phrase. I think just to just to life in general, you know, I think it's in the details and like, you know, how you, like, conduct yourself in business, you know, in terms of being upstanding and standing by your word and, you know, in terms of how you, like, conduct yourself with your family and your friends, you know, and just like, And just generally the people around you and how you proceed even with like, you know, in your job, whatever it may be, you know what I mean?

Like, you know, and maybe what you do for money isn't what you want to do for life, you know, but at the same time, like you can still make the most of any situation and try to, you know, look for ways to improve, you know, be open to the opportunities that present themselves to improve, I would say, you know, because they're always there, but it's just like you know it's easy to to mope i mean when my when my puppy dies like i had to get through um the recording process and it's like it was uh it was pretty easy to mope at times you know and it's like i've been i've been there for sure but uh you know at the end of the day like you have to uh you know pick yourself up duts yourself up and move on you know and uh and life goes on but

you know uh yeah it's it's funny what comes to mind is i was really reading a newsletter and it was he was talking about that casey was talking about you know troubling times ahead of us in different things like that and so he brought up his fate one of his favorite things the way he wrote it was one of his favorite cartoons from back in the day was if if anyone remembers it wasn't duck tales but it's the same comics right you remember duck tales with the with the vault full of like gold and he's always diving and swimming in it well the original cartoon he's he's a comic book sorry is Scrooge McDuck has this vault and his nephew is Donald. And Donald plays a practical joke on him and leaves a paper for him. And it says that gold is now worth nothing and the world is going to trade money in fish. And so he's upset for like, you know, he says he's upset for like one page and then you flip over and he goes to work. He paints a boat and gets a load of fish and takes a load of fish and trades it off on this and comes back and trades that for more fish. And eventually he has so much fish he could go swimming in it,

except he realizes fish kind of stink and he doesn't really care for fish. And so he gives the fish all fills up Donald Duck's house. And the practical joke kind of falls on Donald Duck, right? Because he fills his house full of stinky fish. And yet what Doug Casey's pointing out is it's all about mindset, right? You think, you know, he goes from being the richest man in the world one day and not realizing it. I mean, obviously it's a practical joke to being broke. And all about mindset, get to work.

And mindset is a huge thing when you're talking about, you know, whatever, whatever you're trying to chase in life, right? Or just, you know, I got three young kids. Some days, if you go home with the right mindset, man, it's a great day. You go in the wrong mindset. It doesn't matter how lovely they are. Some days you're so frustrated. You just, you can't find your way out of it. You're just so angry and you're like, usually your spouse has to pick you up that day.

You know, usually they're like, you're having a rough day. How would you go sit over there and just have some quiet time? Thank you. I'm going to go sit on the couch and contemplate life, you know? Absolutely, yeah. I love that story, though, because it really kind of highlights, really, I think, just sort of like a theme throughout all of great literature is like either on the, on the hero's journey side, kind of like the striving for greatness and overcoming adversity

and, like, you know, like grasping for great heights, you know. know, which is like, you know, which is the hero's journey. And then on the other side, it's like there's like the compelling narrative of like the king who falls from grace, you know. And I think like you even look at like Sam Bank been freed or whatever, you know, it's like how do you go from being like a multi-billionaire like third pick richest person in the world to like jail in the span of a year, you know? It's like even just like aside from the finances of it all, like.

That's just such a fall from grace in terms of like, you know, just your condition in life, you know. And I mean, I think that's, I think it's fascinating that, you know, the person that we are deep down, we, we so often, like, identify ourselves by like the markers in life. You know what I mean? He was once referred to as a billionaire, you know, and now he's referred to as a felon. He's the same person, you know, underneath it all, you know. But, you know, I think on a on a less negative level that can also, that applies to everybody, you know, like, it's like, I think a lot of, a lot of this project was centered around being like an internal struggle. And sort of like conquering the self, I guess, if you will, especially Lord of East Garifraxa. and what is garafraxa yeah i'm so glad you asked uh so i'm glad you said it like seven times now

where i'm finally like i can say this word garafraxa okay yeah um so east garafraxas where my uh grandpa farm the land for so that's the land is garafraxa that's the area yeah it's a township called east garafraxa it's a township when they were growing up probably about 500 people or so now it's ballooned up to a whopping 2000 or so. But yeah, it's a, and I picked it intentionally because I wanted to, like, you know, I think, you know, in hip hop and stuff like that and music like these days, like, oh, I'm the king of New York, you know, whatever it is. But I really thought it was like an interesting concept to be like, I'm the king of my domain,

you know, whatever that is, you know. And it's like, and the things that are that are in my life, I have dominion over. And, and, you know, in terms of, like, you know, Lord, Lord in the sense of, like, you know, authority ownership or whatever, you know, I'm the Lord of Use Garrafrax because it's like, I own everything in my life, you know, and that doesn't mean, you know, small that it may be, you know what I mean? And it may be off the wall, you know, people like yourself may never have heard of it before, you know, but it's like, when it comes to this particular domain, I'm the king, you know? And, um, Yeah, but it is, it's beautiful land at there, but, you know, but, but not, not, um, the point of it isn't in an egotistical sense, though. It's really just in, uh, uh, the constant, like battle and the struggle to transcend and like, um, gain freedom because like, you know, the old cliche freedom isn't free, right? It's like, you have to pay with your blood, sweat and tears for that. And I thought the analogy was super cool, like my grandpa, like out in the field, like, every day, you know, working in, you know, 40 degrees Celsius heat, you know, and just like sweating, you know, having to like,

keep up with things or else, you know, the farm kind of slips and like, you know, like that's your livelihood, you know. But at the end of the day, it's like he was a free man and nobody told him to do what from, you know, sun up to sundown, you know? And that's kind of the feeling that I tried to convey there. Yeah, it's super cool. It's a super cool song name. I do, Garifraxa. I, you know, like when I first read it? I'm like, what is that, you know? And is there, you know, a music guy, right?

You know, man, sometimes I, I'm like, I can be a dork when it comes to music. I'm sure a lot of us can. We did a bike for breakfast was a thing that I was a part of in the middle of COVID. And we biked roughly 1,100 kilometers, a group. of us in turns from Lloyd to if listeners out here to quick dick mc dick and tough and know Saskatchewan he's a Saskatchewan comedian if you don't know who he is and so i knew i was going to get bike roughly at about two in the morning so pitch dark and i was hoping under the stars with lack of wind and i uh for my hour i listened to the interstellar um soundtrack you know it just it was

just like i just in my head i sat there and i thought about it for about a month before i'm like i'm going to get to bike, I'm around here, and I'm like, I'm going to listen to this. And I don't know, maybe I'm, maybe I'm building up to be more than it is my own head. And then I went and did it and I was like, no, it's perfect. I enjoyed, it didn't feel like torture of biking at two in the morning. It didn't feel like torture of like I'm having a bike, you know, however many K, it felt like this is, this is something that I'm never going to forget. And I didn't, don't you know it? I had like this, the sky of like, all the stars were out. There wasn't a stitch of clouds. I think I even had a little bit of a tailwind. It was.

perfect and I just biked along and listened to it and there's you know one of the things about hans zimmer if you're a fan is he knows how to really just build and build and build and build and hit and then come down and then build again it's just it's wonderful is there something in your world where you're like oh this is because you know i'm i'm always curious there's lots of music out there is there something where you're like oh no when i need to get to work this is what i listen to or when i'm you know i don't know what's your what's your what's your your choice when you're trying to not just have an upbeat jam session. Right, yeah.

I, well, is it Chopin? Chopin's a big one for sure. Yeah, I would say Chopin. And I think the beautiful thing about Chopin, as you alluded to before, I mean, the piano is just such a beautiful instrument, right? And he was really one of the first ones to compose

for what we know is the modern piano. Like, he came just on the heels of Beethoven. So Chopin was born in 1810, Beethoven died in 1828. So they had like, Chopin was about 18 years old when he died, but he didn't really like know him as a person at all. But Beethoven wrote on kind of what was called the hammer clavier,

which is sort of a transition instrument. It was kind of more dull, a little more thuddy, a little bit more of like a plucked sound, you know, whereas like the piano, it's a lot more like lush and rich. And, uh, uh, Yeah, so I feel like a history lesson there. But yeah, so Chopin would be a big one.

But the textures in Chopin are just so beautiful. And then Hans Zimmer would definitely be a big one. Just like love his like, yeah, like just the textures like with Intercellar. It's like you can literally see like the stars kind of like passing you by in this sort of like outer space time warp type thing. It's beautiful. Beethoven would be a big one when I want to get creative. He's just, like, unbelievable. Just, like, the rage and the fire that he's able to put in sometimes,

just, like, using, like, violins and trumpets and flutes and oboes, you know, is incredible. In terms of, like, modern stuff, like, I'm actually big, like, I like a lot of, like, country stuff. I'm a big fan of, like, Morgan Wallen. I like the new Noah Khan record a lot. That stuff's a little more rootsy, but at the same time, I like anything that, like, transports you from, like, one place and time to, like, you know, you know, it, you know, it transports you through time.

And I find that a lot of countries are able to do that because it's like, you know, I haven't lived my entire life as like some like backwoods, like country dude. But I've like, you know, I'm intimately acquainted with like rural environments. And just that, just just those vibes sometimes are like really special, you know, just like a bonfire with some beers, just kicking it, you know. So yeah, that stuff is like really cool to me. and I I no no finish finish your thought finish your thought I could go on and on I love like R and B Marvin gay you know um Sam cook um the Beach Boys are another big one I just love their like

harmonies their vocal harmonies are just like unbelievable um but uh I would just be the name of you I can I can go on and on I'm getting all philosophical and I keep chuckling my hand I'm like Chopin showpan showpan showpan where why do why don't well no actually I actually I I'm going to go funny here. Because one of my, you know, one of my all-time favorite Western movies is Tombstone. And Doc Holiday has a line about Chopin. And I don't know if you know what I'm talking about. I just figure I'm going to pull it up here.

I think I'm right in this. Here, we'll see if I'm, we'll see if I'm right, folks. See if I know this. Is that all dark? That sounds like gold. trade of me. Bottom? You know,

Stephen Foster. Oh, Susanna. Camp town races. Steven's thinking Foster. Oh, yeah, fool. This happens to be a noctun. Which? You know,

Frederick fucking Chopin. I love it. I'm like, forgive me. Everyone's coming into my mind. today. I'm like, Chopin, why do I keep coming up with some movie quote?

You know, if I could make, you know, if I was going to make millions of dollars, it would come off of ridiculous knowledge of movies where it has no functionality in society. It's, it's Val Kilmer playing Doc Holiday drunk in a movie scene

where he's playing Chopin. That's where I know Chopin from. Such a good scene, though. And that, that Nocturn is beautiful. To anybody listening, I would highly recommend you can start with the nocturns.

You can pretty much trust any nocturn to be beautiful. And the whole collection is just absolutely sensational. And, yeah, you'll be listening to some of the best music ever created in Western culture. So, I mean... Where can people find your music? And if there's people down in the States or anything like that, where can they find you, Daniel? Yeah, absolutely. So right now, we premiered the project on YouTube.

I just gave final approval. It'll be going up on Spotify within a day or two. So it should be up there as well. So if you search Daniel Roy, Skies We New Back Home is the name of the project. So Skies We New Back Home, Daniel Roy, that'll come up with my content. And you can kind of listen through the project. And I designed it as I call it a sonata. It's not technically a sonata.

But Sonata is like a technical format and like classical music or whatever. And I just really tried to take that as a fun. framework to, you know, craft like a sonic experience where it's like it's, it's not just like a song where you're playing the verse, you're playing guitar, you know what I mean? I try to make it, you know, kind of move and transitions. And the whole concept is to take you on a 15 minute musical journey. So if you have 15 minutes to carve out and you want to kind of go for a musical ride, I'm pretty proud of it. So yeah, I'd be grateful if people check it out. Well, what we'll do is I'll put your YouTube channel.

me and YouTube don't get along that well i just got bucked off of it again for peter mccullough who was just on i'll put i'll put i'll put the youtube channel uh in the show notes that way if people want to check out your music they can just click on it and where they go um thanks for thanks for hopping on today um and what we're going to do folks is we're going to flip over to substack if you haven't come with us to substack i don't know what you're doing actually i do you're probably enjoying just the podcast. But if you want to come over to Substack, we're going to ask a couple more questions of Daniel

before we let them out of here. We're having a little too much fun when we're talking classical music and some of the little things. But yeah, if you want to hop over to Substack, hop over with us. We've got a couple more things going to do there. And either way, we'll catch up to you guys next week. This is Thursday.

Thursday. Only current. And the mashup coming on Friday morning, 10 a.m. For all you find folks, if you're paying attention, 10 a.m., we switched this week. So moving forward, the Tuesday mashup becomes the mashup. Fridays at 10 a.m. So that's what you can expect on Friday or hop over to Substack with us. We're going to take a brief little break.

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