Shaun Newman Podcast - #618 - Drew MacGillivray

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

He spent 12 years in the Canadian Navy and was a Maritime Tactical Operator. He is one of the founders of Veterans 4 Freedom and the current President. We discuss foreign legions becoming part of the Canadian military, DEI as part of the recruitment process and China’s influence on Canada.  SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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He's one of the co-founders of Veterans for Freedom and the current president. I'm talking about Andrew McGilvery. So buckle up. Here we go. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman Pack. Actually, I better make sure I know this. So Jack, if you're listening, scratch it right here. How do I say your last name?

McGilvery? Yeah, McGilvery. That's good. All right. And do you go by Drew or Andrew? Usually Drew. Okay, Drew. Okay.

Drew McGilvery. All right. you go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Drew McGilvery. So Drew, thanks for making the trip of a lifetime to the metropolis of Lloyd Minster. I'm sure it's exactly what you had on your bingo card. Yeah, no, it was pretty good. I didn't even know where it was in the province. I had to look it up and good thing I filled up on gas. Not very many gas stations out this way. So I got right down to load. It was like,

you got two kilometers left and they coasted right into the co-op there and on the main street so you're you know I got buddies down in the states that are literally thinking I live in uh I don't know the tundra the the the Arctic or something where you you know come on folks this isn't this isn't like driving to the Yukon it's just Lloydminster right well before we get before we get going to do this so I don't forget because I feel like you know and looking at the file ahead of me of today I'm like I'm going to do this so I don't have to interrupt first off thanks for for coming This is a little tip of the hat to anyone entering the studio. Silver Gold Bull supports the podcast and we give out a one ounce silver coin to anyone who enters into the SMP studio.

So there you go. Thank you very much, man. I appreciate that. Yeah. Have you ever had a silver coin in your hand before? I've had a silver bullet. Silver coin? No, I don't think so.

So first timer? Yeah, first time. Thanks, though. I know exactly where to put this, though. Thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, you bet. Well, you've made quite the journey. I want to learn first before we get into any of the topics.

You're like, hey, I can talk on all these things. I'm like, oh, boy. Okay. So before we get to any of that, maybe a ton of people know who exactly who you are, Drew. I think everybody knows the logo on your shirt for people not watching. Sorry, I'm talking about Veterans for Freedom. I think a ton of people know about. the organization and and certainly if you went to Ottawa or around Ottawa,

there was a lot going on there and there's a lot of people that I know are around the organization in the organization, that type of thing. But I don't know you and I would love just to start with like, who is Drew and give us, I don't know, give us the story. We got plenty of time today. Well, there's not, there's not too much about my story. Basically, I joined the military 2009, naval warfare officer, boarding specialist, you know, worked for the maritime tactical operations group,

a ton of overseas time, ton of joint combined experience. And then, you know, I was taking a bit of a break. I went to recruiting. So away from the maritime tactical operations group to recruiting. And I saw what they were doing to our military with their hiring practices, with the communist style struggle sessions and all the other stuff, which I wasn't aware of. And basically I knew, I knew the mandates were coming as well with regards.

to the job. So I sort of exited out of the military in August or September of 2021. And then four or five months later, I got called to the trucker convoy to support them. I was glued watching Viva Fry, you know, every single day. And then I got a call from Tom Marazo and he said, look, they need me need help from guys like you. And so I made my way over there.

And yeah, I was one of, you know, hundreds of. and hundreds of veterans supporting the truckers. And, yeah, from there, we started veterans for, veterans of freedom. So myself, Sammy, Darrell, Eddie Cornell, and Tom. And we thought it was only going to get, you know, the couple hundred veterans who were supporting the truckers. We had no idea I was going to be getting to the thousands and thousands of members across the country and still growing.

So I'm the current, you know, national president of the organization. And, yeah, we've, I'm doing a whole bunch of different things, but we just had no clue that B for F was going to blow up the way it has. And I didn't know I was going to be going from a, you know, to a working sort of part-time to a full-time volunteer. Where are you originally from?

So I was born and raised in Scarborough. So just, it's now Toronto, in Ontario. And yeah, a little bit of a rough area growing up there. So that's where I was born and raised. And this is my first.

time out to Alberta. It's pretty, uh, it's pretty good. I'm like a lot of our guys and gals from Ontario have left Ontario and moved here. And, uh, man, with a beautiful Albertan women, that's going to be hard for me to pass up the opportunity to move out here as well. Wait, yeah, if I'm doing, I, I guess, how many years did you serve in the Canadian Navy? 12. 12. What, what, you, how old were you when you got involved? in the Navy? I was 27, so I got in, yeah, 2009. Curious, 27, what was it that appealed to you about getting involved in the Navy?

The Navy won, maybe just the armed forces in general. Yeah. What was it at that point in time that pulled you in? So I'd gone through school and you joined the private sector. And I was a, I played varsity basketball and competitive. of the basketball most of my life. And you join the private sector and they're like, oh yeah, it's great.

It's a team. It's going to be, you know, so I started working for Caterpillar. They have a machinery company. And it was just like every day around the water cooler. Oh, what's the stock price today and this and, you know, quarterly numbers? And I was like,

I don't see myself putting in like 25, 30 years. I watched them take a lady who was there for 19 years. I think she had two or three bad quarters in a row in terms of sales. just fired her, zero loyalty. And it wasn't all about the money for me. So I started looking at alternatives. And I was looking for things where it wasn't about the money. And you can do sort of the high speed tactical stuff.

You can be on an actual team. And so that's why I looked, you know, the first choice was the military. I was like, okay, let's check this out. At the time, the salaries were competitive. And I had to apply, I think, for the Army first. but with the way recruiting works, the only thing that was open was the Navy. For me, it was,

or there was some other ones that I wasn't interested in, but they sold me on being a naval warfare officer. You could do diving, you could do boarding, you could do, you know, the high-speed tactical stuff. So, so, okay, and I signed up, and so that's why I chose the navies, because that's what was available. And, yeah, just the team thing.

Like when you go from being on a competitive, basketball team, you know, where you're practicing four nights a week, tournaments on the weekends, games, and you're in that environment, it's so appealing to sort of keep that going as a young man. And that's what I found when I joined the military. Forgive me, that's where I'm going to get into dumb questions. That's good. I was just talking about it this morning. Come from the land of grass, you know?

Like, it's just like hard footing underneath you. was getting in the Navy not a difficult choice but were you always accustomed to the water or was that a little bit of a culture shock of getting on board ships or it wasn't that big a deal maybe I'm making too big of a deal out of it

I just think of like sailing and being on the water and having to deal with you know all that comes with that I guess yeah it wasn't too big of a deal to me you know you get your sea legs under you how long did that take you I would say with my first sail

probably took a month or so. You have to, you know, people get seasick and it's an awful feeling. I've actually seen people who are, who are green, like their phases are literally green from being seasick. But once you get your sea legs under you, it's not too bad. Being on the ocean is a whole different beast. I've been in some really bad, like, scary sea states, you know, or no one's coming to save you. And you sort of, you worry, you're nervous, you're, you know, you're getting and tossed around at sea. But unlike the army in the Air Force, you know, when they actually have to pick up

and go somewhere, it takes time. So with the Navy, everything's already on that ship. You can pick up your like the ready duty ship. You can pick up and go and sail halfway across the world in an instant, right? So you're gone within three hours and then you can be gone for months out of time. So I like that because, you know,

I've spent 731 days at sea. I've been to six continents, and I've been on three high readiness deployments, and I've been all over the world. And you don't necessarily get that chance with the Army and the Air Force to be able to do that. So the travel is great. You get port visits. I've been to so many different countries, and if you're in the Army, you pretty much, you know, you go to Latvia, and you're stuck on your forward operating base there,

training base and you don't get to travel too much. So the travel aspect's very good and it's appealing, but it does suck being at sea, that's for sure. You know, seeing all those different countries, did you, and I don't know, I don't know if you have enough time to notice things and trends and different things like that. But, you know, like one of the things about when you actually travel somewhere and see it for yourself compared to just hearing what they tell you on the news, Did you start to see anything noteworthy that started to shape your ideas of how the world works, how the world looks? You know, when you mentioned six different continents and you're, you know, you're seeing different people, different cultures, et cetera, et cetera. Just wonder, you know, like anything that stuck out to you.

Oh, yeah. So my first deployment was something called Op Artemis. So that was 2012, 2013. That was the, in the Middle East. And that was definitely changed my. perspective on life and it was it was a tough go so it was you know there's a lot of poverty in the world there and there was a lot of you know just desperate people you know we saw I was involved with witnessing some human trafficking or child

trafficking which was really really bad what do you mean you witness well so with the boarding team you're the boarding I was the boarding officer so I take a team of, you know, nine or ten of us who are armed to the teeth to go over to other ships, and then we board other ships. And then we look for weapon smuggling, human smuggling, contraband, drugs, and that sort of thing. So that was our primary role in Operation Artemis was boarding operations. And so what happens is there's some of these jihadi groups in Africa, like Boko Haram.

They'll go and raid Nigerian villages. and they'll steal the children, usually Christian children away. And then they'll traffic them through Africa to an area, lawless area in Somalia, called Puntland. It's on the northern coast of Somalia. And then they put these kids and young women on ships, and then they traffic them to the rest of the Middle East for the perverted men, mostly in the world, to come into those areas.

and fulfill their demonish sexual desires. So a lot of that stems from that area. So that's just something that you witness when you're on in that area there. So did it change my perspective on life? Yes. And it's what I tell people when I came back from that deployment, I said, look, be happy you live in Canada and protect your children. Those are the two things that I would tell people after witnessing some of the things that I witnessed over there.

But that's common. The guys who were over, I didn't go to Afghanistan. We were doing support operations out there off what we call the Macron coast, which is a bit of a lawless coast on between Iran and Pakistan. That's where a lot of the drugs from Afghanistan get trafficked out of. But the guys in Afghanistan saw it as well. With the T-boys, if you mentioned T-Boy, I won't get into all that stuff too much. But it's been witnessed.

And that's just something that happens in their part of the world, their neck of the woods and it's unfortunate but that's just the reality of the situation. No, it's just something that, uh, I shouldn't say it doesn't happen here because, you know, I've had enough, uh, people on talking about human trafficking. Yes. Happening here in Alberta. I don't want to act like it doesn't happen. Uh, it's just hard for my brain to go there, you know?

It's like it doesn't compute and, uh, to hear different people coming in and talk about it. Um, I think it's probably beneficial to the audience, right? Uh, because, you know, we, we don't realize it's going on, but obviously it is. And in certain parts of the world, as you're pointing out, it's a lot more commonplace than we probably care to admit. Yeah, and it, it's just a cultural thing, right?

They have, you know, one of the ships I was visiting on, called PNS Kaibar, which is Pakistani naval ship. And it's all men. Then they have young boys on there. So they have tea boys on the ship. So you go over there and, you know, they're serving. you and that's and you know giving you your meals and and tea and that sort of thing but you can only

imagine what it goes on what goes on yeah with those young boys like we would never have in the Canadian Navy or Royal Canadian Navy we'd never have like there's no there's no little kids coming on the boat like that but it's just a cultural thing over there and it's just unfortunate but you know you just look at I'm not a religious guy at all but you can do your sort of look into it and see what nations have those sorts of cultural norms, right? And it's not, it's not Western countries. It's not a Christian nation. No.

When you transition from being active, you're probably active on both sides, but on the boat in the sea being deployed, to I believe more of a, I forget what term you used in the system though. And witnessing the hiring processes, I don't know what position that was. Yeah, so I was, I was heavy into, on the operational side. So, you know, deploying, you know, small, small team, small unit with the Maritime tactical operations group.

And then when I got a bit of a break, so I moved into the recruiting. So they have some recruiting. Thank you. Yeah, CFRG, which is Canadian Forces recruiting group. And I was at the biggest recruiting center in the country in Toronto. And, yeah, once you start to learn the ropes there of their hiring practices and what they do and how they discriminate against white men. and all the other, you know, just nonsense that goes on there, you become disenfranchised and you're like, whoa, I'm not participating in this.

And the struggle sessions are real, right, where they bring in some, you know, liberal swamp donkey from D&D to have you all sit there. And, you know, she's 300 pounds. And she's telling you that because of your skin pigmentation, that's what's wrong with the world and you're a colonizer. all this and it's just it's laughable and I was like I'm not participating in the struggle session sorry like that's just not going to happen you're demoralizing everyone uh you're going after you know white men and Christian men and I said you know who and they're like demonizing them and it doesn't bother me at all people with V for F and all the stuff we do you guys all you're disgruntled veteran I'm not disgruntled at all I just I just going to continue to expose them for

what they're doing and how they're they're destroying the any armed forces and I would say, look, you're demoralizing these young privates and corporals and you're demonizing them because they're skin color. And, you know, in the military, you know, unity is strength, not diversity, unity. When you are a fine, like a team that's cohesive and you're working together towards achieving a mission, that is strength. And it's like one of my, I don't want to say he's a mentor because I've never met him other than writing some, you know, letters back and forth between them, but there's a, there's a Navy seal called Andy Stumpf. And he has a really good podcast called Clear It Hot.

And he asked, he was doing, I think, a leadership conference. And he got asked about, you know, if the, if the seals were missing out on anything by their lack of diversity. And he, his answer, which I remembered verbatim was he said, well, goes, I don't know. He goes, are we aiming for diversity or are we aiming to achieve a standard? And that standard is dictated to us. by what we encounter on the battlefield, and the battlefield doesn't give a shit about diversity.

And that was the best answer you could add. So what they're doing is they're forcing this diversity, inclusion and equity stuff on the Canadian Armed Forces, demoralizing them or demoralizing the troops. Everyone's leaving, but then that sort of the end result is we're not capable of defending our country because they're 16 or 18,000 troops short and the attrition rates that high.

So, sorry, three times as high as what it usually is. And so that's why I got out. I was just like, you know, it's ridiculous. You guys are doing this on purpose and you're going after this like large segment of the forces who, you know, they make up the majority of the forces because. What people don't realize even the highest per capita for, uh, armed, our troops in the armed forces is from rural areas, not the most, but the highest per capita. because rural areas, you know, guys who are outside, shoot guns, drive heavy, heavy machinery, do outdoor stuff, hike, that sort of thing, that's perfect for, they're the perfect guys to get in the Canadian Armed Forces. And what they've done is they've alienated those or other those

type of people. They think the, like, the woke people want to join the military. They don't, But that's who they're catering to. And then that turns off your regular tough, you know, guys from rural areas who are who you want to be your warriors. And yeah. And then what I would just say is like, you're demonizing all these people. It's like who won the majority of the troops in World War I and World War II. Who won those wars?

White Christian males. And now you're demonizing. the people who are your, who you want to fulfill the roles of our combat troops. Was that, was that a shock to you? Like what year was this when you're, when you're sitting in this training going? Like, this is insane. What are we doing here? Yeah, it was.

It was 2018 when it started and me and some of the other, because, you know, if you go to recruiting, it's a, it's a bit of a lateral move where you get a bit of a break and you're working office hours. I'm on my Blackberry 24-7. And then me and some of the, you know, sergeants and other sort of reg force guys, combat arms guys who would get together and do some of the group training. Like, we'd be looking at each other like, what the heck's going on here? Like, what's happening? This is crazy.

And, you know, it really, a lot of guys would get there and be demoralized or they would ask, they'd say, like, post me out of here. I'm not participating in this. This is ridiculous. And, yeah, so it was a shock. But there's, you know, there's ways around it. You know, I'm a pretty, a guy like me with sort of my butt, not trying to pat myself on the back, but my body of work and experience, I generally don't go to a recruiting unit, right? It's usually a lot of reservists.

They do these Class B contracts there. They don't necessarily have much experience. They do a year or two. But a guy like me with a ton of joint experience, combined experience, all those deployments and sort of my qualifications. They don't usually get a guy like me there. But I would see this. Now, I would just call it out.

I was like, no, it's ridiculous. They would tell me that when a good white male candidate applies for a job, that's only open for employment equity or EE, what they call. They said, no, just tell him it's closed. And I said, no, I'm not doing that. I'm telling him that he is not being hired because of his skin pigmentation. They're like, no, no, no, you can't do that. I was like, no, I can do that.

You're telling me to lie to these candidates. I'm not going to do it. So I would tell them and say, look, sorry, even though you scored really, really well, this occupation is only open for non-white males. And the majority of the guys are like, are you serious? I think, yeah, you can thank your liberal government. Actually, I'd say that, you know, but this did happen under the conservative as well. E.E. is the thing, but it was pushed a lot harder under the liberal government

from my understanding what had been told. compared to the conservatives. So, and then the majority guys would get upset, but there's, there was always, you always get a couple guys who'd be like, you'd tell them, and they'd be like, oh, that's okay, I understand. That makes sense to me.

And I'd be sitting there like, no, man, get angry. Like, this is ridiculous. But they'd be like, oh, that's right. No, you know, I'm a colonizer and, you know, I can't do it. And that's like, okay, man, that's what you think. You probably weren't fit for the airport. It's like I was going to say,

it's like, we don't watch you anyways. But the way they break the rules in recruiting. With V-4-F, we've really exposed a lot of things that are happening within Canadian Armed Forces. We have a ton of tips that get sent to us. The whole, you know, what they call the man ponds, so the tampons in the men's washroom. That came from us, came from one of our guys in Alberta.

And that made international news. And the one where the guys in the base had ripped off the machine because they're sick and tired of being embarrassed. So we get a lot of good stuff, a lot of good stories get out there. from our, from our organization, but that stems from James Lindsay. So we're big fans of James Lindsay. And he says, you know, if you're inside these organizations, you need to expose DEI. And so we tell people that and then we get a lot of tips and everything coming in from the Canadian Armed Forces.

And you're just exposing them for their nonsense. Right. So it's. Well, I mean, it's, I remember this. Well, you know, I'm glad you pointed that out because we talked about the, the tampons in the men's room. Yeah. The man ponds. Yeah, the man pond.

You're like, is this really where our Canadian Armed Forces are going? Yeah. You know, I do a military roundtable, roughly once a month, with boys who served, you know, anywhere between, I would say, on the, what was, what's, I think, I think four is the minimum right now. Maybe I'm wrong in it. Maybe it's two. But there's a group of them that it's four to six tours each. Wow. They've served Afghanistan, Croatia, Bosnia, etc., etc., etc., etc. And, like, you know, they're older than, well, than us. and they just can't believe where it's got to, right? And they always point to like, look at the recruitment numbers. Like they're just in the toilet. And you're adding a little bit of another piece to that, right?

Because it's not only that it's in the toilet, it's in the toilet because we're essentially designing it that way. Correct. And that's the first article, at least that's my belief. The first article I did a post-comboy with a lady named Barbara Kaye. And she's an author, her son's. Jonathan Kay, I think he writes for Colette, if I'm not mistaken. But anyway, she writes for National Post in the Epoch Times.

And so when she entered me, I said, look, what we're witnessing, this was in March 2022. I said, what we're witnessing is the managed decline of the Canadian Armed Forces. And, you know, they, what else would they do different, right? And so they got people out over the mandates. They demoralized people with these communist style struggle sessions. and you know they're just they're giving all of our equipment away to the ukraine i know units where you know guys had to give back their sniper rifles i think it's c17 timber wolves i believe

a sniper rifle so they could take them and send them in ukraine and now these guys don't have their sniper rifles so there's also what do they do they use uh c7 with the they just put a scope on a c7 for their overwatch capability yep so they had to give away they've given away so much stuff. You can just you can put it in Google and say what Canada's military contributions to Ukraine and they list everything there. Small arms, vehicles, tanks, sniper rifles. What do you think about that? Um, I think, you know, our organization, we get asked a lot about, you know, what's your guys take on Ukraine Russia or Israel, Palestine or, you know, Roe v. Wade, not even kidding. And I was like, well, we don't have an opinion on that other than we need to put Canada

The first, Canada needs to be able to defend itself. We need a strong, well-trained, well-armed, well-armed military to protect Canadian sovereignty. And above and above and beyond that, then the government of the day can decide who they want to support and get involved with. I personally don't think we should get involved with foreign conflicts that have nothing to do with us. That's just my personal belief. but I do believe in us having a very strong and capable military to be able to protect the country. I've yet to come across one person to say,

hey, look, do you think Canada should have a strong military and them saying, no, we shouldn't? It doesn't matter what political side you're from. I think, you know, because Canada does, our military does a lot. We do when there's a states of emergency, we react, forest fires, floods, we evacuate people, our search and rescue coverage, which is extremely important for across the country.

We participate in that. So we need a strong, capable of military. And, you know, I have this long sort of theory about why they're doing what they're doing. It actually stems from the trucker convoy there. It could be wrong, but it has to do with the permanent residence and that sort of thing. But we, if you guys, if you check us out,

we put out a lot of military information, We probably get, I would say, the most tips are sent our way from within. We work a fair bit with True North in the epoch times to get stories out. We got a fairly significant story coming out within the next day or two from our friend, Cosminjurja, who's with True North. He's great. But we got a couple big ones, a couple of bangers out there. Do we get to talk about it?

And the reason I ask if it's the next couple days this release is on Monday. Yeah, so we can talk. So I can just say this is that it has to do. So last year there was a chaplain who came out and said that they're transgender. So chaplain, which is our priests within the military. So it's a chaplaincy trade units often called them Padres. And so the Kenyan Air Enforces did. this big thing March of 2023. Oh, look at this like such a hero. It's like a five minute video

and you know the makeup and oh I'm transitioning and all this and they just go through five minutes of this transgender nonsense. And then that sort of, you know, they got ridiculed because of that which which is fine. And then we got a little tip maybe about a week ago saying, hey, they're trying to cover up a scandal involved with this chaplain with this chaplain this chaplain was at rmccc which is a royal military college of canada so that chaplain deals with children who were more i shins and the children young adults 17 to 21 years old and there's a scandal with him who yes who are away from home without their parents first time so if you look at our i don't know if you remember that uh That video where it's like a, like a, I don't know the meme, but it says, it goes, ladies and gentlemen, we got them. So when I think it was when they're talking about Osama bin Laden, so we just quoted, uh, that article with that saying,

we got them and sort of standby. So we're just working out sort of the final details, final questions. And then it's going to be released through, uh, true north and we're exposed to military for trying to cover up, uh, this scandal. But, uh, this guy's in trouble. What did it is, you know, I'm a, you mentioned you're a basketball guy. I'm a hockey guy, you know. And any time the hockey world tries covering up a scandal, it puts a bad stain on something

I love, right? Like, if bad things happen, there are bad people, just transparent about it. Yeah. Right? Just like, there is. This is what happened. They're gone. This is what they did.

Shed light on it. Don't cover it up. Because what ends up happening is exactly what's happening here all over again. Because once again, this is Canadian military. I assume that. That's something that's very near and dear to your heart, right? That's why you guys continue to open up, you know, expose some of the idioticy in it, right? And yet, what do they do?

First, you know, they put a chaplain who is going through something that, you know, fine, okay, and then put them around young adults away from home. Like, you cannot be that stupid except there we are all over again. Well, exactly. And so, you know, like I said it earlier, I'm not a religious guy at all. I was brought up a Christian, but, you know, I sort of, my parents stopped, you know, taking me to church. Maybe it was around eight or nine years old. I was in a rough area in Scarborough there and just wasn't something I continued on with. But these unit Padres, so the chaplains of Padres, they're extremely important. They play extremely important role within the community. Because when you're overseas, they can mediate, they act as social workers. They can, you know, help you with, you know, any sort of family issues you might have. You can go and confide in them. And it doesn't have to even be like the same denomination that you are, right?

So, so our unit Padre with V for F is Harold Ristow. He's Lutheran. But he'll talk to anyone, right? When he was in. So they play this vital role, especially in war zone. So Harold has been in Afghanistan. His last unit he was with was Seesore, so a Canadian special operations regiment, so Kansoftcom unit.

And they deal with people who are in very vulnerable positions, such as they just lost one of their buddies or they've been injured or whatever. So they do play a vital role. and so you have someone who's having gender dysphoria or whatever they call it who's been put in one of these very vital roles where people confide in them with young people with young university age students that's probably not a good thing now you don't have to be a rocket scientist to go that is a bad idea yeah so we'll we'll see we're still there there's communications going back and forth there's being extremely vague.

But I will say is that this person who was there has lost their chaplaincy. So they're not a chaplain. And that's a very serious thing to take away from these, from chaplains. So we have our Harold Rostow's weighing in on it. He's dealing with them and giving some commentary. And yeah, so we'll hopefully see the story coming out. We're with your chaplain, Harold, where, we're, we're, uh, Where does he call home?

So he used to be Ontario. He left, he was in Africa acting as him and his family, great family as a missionary, I believe, down there. So they were down there for a year or two, I believe. And then he just got, he just got a job. I want to say it's in Wisconsin, somewhere in the United States. But he's actually going to be a regular contributor for a veteran, U.S. veteran named John Hesgith, I think his name is. So he's a Fox News guy down there. So Harold's extremely intelligent.

He's 100% on our side. He's probably the most base padre you're going to get. And so he's going to become a regular contributor down the United States. Well, and the reason I ask is I'm on a little journey and I'm like, he sounds right up my alley. Amazing. Yeah. I'll bug you about that afterwards. Yep.

You know, man, I do, okay, this is, I was excited about today, you know, like I get excited about any time anyone's sits across me, Drew. But I just cleared the deck. I'm like, I'm just going to wait. He gets here. We're going to have a great time and appreciate you making, you know, the journey this way. That's right. You know, I don't know where, like, there's so many different things with you to hop to, you know.

You bring up Tom Marazo. He's been a friend of the show. The first time I ever met Tom was in Ottawa in, I don't know, command center, control room of the ark. And I remember. I remember the presence he had on the room when he walked in, like, oh, finally, you know, you got somebody to settle it down, if you would, somebody who's been in some different things. And the fact that, you know, you're one of the calls he makes. Let's talk about the convoy.

Let's talk about Ottawa because there's a time where you leave the Canadian military and you come across to help the Freedom Convoy. Yeah. Walk us through that. Yeah. So, like I said earlier, I was glued to Viva with his live streams. Like from when he had left his car walking in. He was just on, uh, when was that on folks? Monday, I think.

He was just on, he was just on the podcast. Yeah, he's a solid guy. So I was watching him. Shout out to him because he's really helping us with, uh, Kayla Pollock, which is great. Uh, he got her on Dr. Drew, but that's, that's another, uh, another story. Uh, so I was watching and I was like, man, this is a big deal. And, um, I could see what was happening with, uh, what we call I.O, the information operations that the mainstream media was using, or sorry, the government was used.

using the mainstream media for, oh, yeah, it's not a big podcast. They're all white supremacists, all the other nonsense of tar and feather. And I was like, oh, yeah. You know, and so I was just sitting from home. And I had only been retired five months, sitting with my dogs, got the call from Razlis. Like, look, they need some help here. Guys like you, can you come down? So I made some arrangements for my dogs and my farm.

And then I got there, I think, on the Tuesday after. So I get in and it was pretty busy. You know, there's a lot of sort of confusion. a lot of egos and a lot of estrogen as well, unfortunately, which was causing a lot of problems. Sorry, ladies. But, well, actually, it wasn't just the ladies at estrogen, but I won't name names.

But so anyways, we just went in there. We don't want to try and calm people down, get people moving in the right direction. There's a lot of friction between the different camps, the headquarters, the Coventry Supply Depot, and that sort of thing. And I was just trying to get everyone calm, maintain, mission focus and you know it's it was complex for a lot of these people but generally it was just a simple logistical operation is what it was but they didn't they were basically trying to you're

already conducting operations but then you're trying to form your command and control and your communication lines while doing operations is a very difficult thing to do so like when the military does something we get all that stuff sorted out before and then you go and do it and so there was a lot of you know, uh, difficulties on that front. Uh, one of the things we introduced.

And I just say, I say we collectively, because I wasn't the only vet there, obviously, there was, there was a lot of us who were contributing in, in different areas. And we said, look,

you know, it's the allied nations concept. You know, you can't tell me what to do. I can't tell the people at the Swiss hotel to do or, or the ark or the coventry. So I said, but we're all working together.

So it's the allied nations concept. So if you need something, from someone, you ask them if they can do it. If they say yes, great. If they say no or we can help partially, great. But you just have to accept the fact that they can't, they might not be able to help out. So once you got that going in there,

that really calmed a lot of stuff down. People started working together and started to build a bit of a relationship between the different camps, which is great. And, you know, I think, you know, the big thing that we did to, or that we did was we sort of strategize and we came up with what we call stand to. So stand two means in the military world means there to get your gear and we're being attacked and, you know, defend the front line or get to your post.

And so my friend Eddie Cornell there, I wasn't really friends with them at the time, just working with him. Now I'm very close with him. He said, look, we need to do a stand two. And so he got on there and there was a one or two minute clip. and he said, you know, stand to you, your country needs you. And that we had literally veterans driving across the country, leaving from Edmonton once they heard that call.

And we got a lot of them there. And it was going to change the dynamic, right? Because, you know, people were concerned that the army was going to, or the military was going to come in for that. I got a whole backstory on that, which sort of, you know, I can talk about a little bit later. But it was going to change the dynamic. when you're going to have a bunch of decorated vets there with their metals and their berets, you know, trying to act as the shield between the jackboots and your everyday Canadian citizens. So, um, we did, yeah, we, we, we helped out, helped organize, um, you know, we handle a lot of

down and in stuff, but we didn't do too much, right? And I think the biggest thing we did there was it was symbolic that you had hundreds of vets there supporting these, these people. and, you know, I tell people the only reason I went down, like, is it not a, not a religious guy. You know, I wouldn't say like a full-blown conspiracy there, so I'd say there's a spectrum of conspiracy there, and I'm definitely on the spectrum. But I just went down there because as an adult in this country, I wasn't going to sit idly by and allow our government to demonize and other a whole, like a large portion of our population. population, right? I was like, nope, not going to happen. I'll go there, help these people

push back because this wrong. Canadians are generally good people, and I'm watching them demonized. So that's why I went, right? That was the sole reason why I went down there to help protect them. So it was good that we were there symbolically. And we did, you know, some guys were in some key positions or some key speeches made and some key decisions made that we might have helped with. and that was it. So, you know, it was great. But a lot of us, you know, people look back and they get upset that the convoy wasn't successful. They beat us, whatever.

It's like my perspective, that was the biggest victory we could have ever had. And post-convoy, I have 10 times as many friends and 10 times better friends than I do pre-convoy. So I think about the networks that formed, the groups that formed, the people that formed, the people, People that woke up, you know, all over the world, they're talking about freezing bank accounts of Canadian citizens. You had RFK Jr. Maybe last year, talk about, you know, freedom of banking because of what they had done to the truckers.

So so much came from that. It was a pivotal, you know, point in Canadian history, in my opinion. And think about the pro, because if we had just picked up and left and everyone had gone, we wouldn't have had the beatings. We wouldn't have had the beatings. We wouldn't have had the bank counts frozen because you need forced tyrants to be tyrants. That's exactly what they did.

So the truckers and the other, you know, it wasn't all truckers there. The Canadian citizens there, protesters, they suffered short-term pain for long-term gain. And when they took a bunch of our vets there and they beat them and threw them off and, you know, minus 25 outside of Ottawa and our guy like Big Scott, Chris Deering, guys had to trudge back into there. The first speech I did post-convoy I said, well, what they don't know is that they poke the bear, right?

The bear being our group, which was formed after the convoy, but I've dedicated my life now. It's like, yeah, well, no, we're not going to let these people just get away with this and we're going to put as much pressure on them as possible and expose them. And we've been pretty effective so far.

The group, we've raised a lot of money. We've done a lot of work and exposed a lot of things that are happening. And that's exactly what they did. They poked the bear. And, you know, I didn't take any beatings myself. But I stood, you know, just because of the position I was in, I was reporting stuff and going back and a little bit of a higher position, I would say. And, you know, I just sat there with my own eyes and I watched the beatings.

Watch them do. Watch them, hit them with tear gas and pepper spray. and everything and it's like I remember all that stuff. I'm a little bit desensitized of that sort of thing. But I saw them what they did to senior citizens. You know, I saw, I just saw what the jackboots did. And I was like just using it as motivation. And there's a really good video.

I think one of our guys put out called Black and Tans. And I think it's only on Rumble because it's filled with sort of all the violent things that we saw there. But it's just motivation. I just watch it and I'm like, yep, there they go. There you had the jackboots beating a bunch of peaceful Canadian citizens. And I was like, yep, and that's all I need. It's all our guys need. Post that video every once in a while.

Like, yeah, this is who we're going against. So they did poke the bear. But, you know, overall, like I was saying, the convoy was a massive victory. And, you know, I know a lot of people talk about convoy 2.0 or we've got to keep doing this. And sort of disagree. The convoy had its place. Yeah, sorry to the, the audience, as, as they know, I've been dealing with, with camera issues.

So I'm trying to like, try not to let it bother me, you know, but at the same time, I'm like, I'm tired of letting it dictate my life. So I'm trying to figure it out here as I go. Like, it's just something little minor things. Either way, we were talking about the, the trucker convoy and how you got in. You said something that really stuck with me because I just witnessed it here in Lloyd Minster. Of course, you know, the, uh, the protests on April 1st started. and, you know, peaceful protests standing on the side of the road basically saying, hey, carbon tax needs to go, right?

And so there's been a protest here in Lloyd, right? Because we're right on the border. And it started April 1st. And April 6th, the Saturday, you know, there's, I forgive me, folks, I don't know how many, was it 100 people there? Was it 200? But, you know, during the week from day one, you know, of a high of roughly 2,000 people went through, it got down to like maybe there's, There's maybe there's 50 people left there, maybe. And then, of course, on the weekend, it grew kind of the way Ottawa did.

But you can imagine it's not like all of a sudden there's 10,000 people there, but you get the point. And I got a call, and they have 30 cops now pushing up against these protesters. And, you know, when you were talking about Ottawa specifically, if the people didn't stay, they didn't, you know, what were they doing? They got the tyrants to show themselves. And I feel like, you know, what I witnessed here in Lloyd, because I'm like, you know, like these people are just sitting there, you know, largely majority, um, grandmas, grandpas, I'm not saying folks, uh, that there isn't younger people there, but on the majority, they're, they're older folks sitting there protesting and peacefully protesting,

sitting on the side. And, um, you know, and then to have that show of force in my town on the outskirts, uh, what I was saying to Miranda, the, uh, organizer of the Lloyd one is I'm like, oh, good on you because if you hadn't a state, I wouldn't have got to seen it with my own eyes. I got to drive by it and be like, this is right outside our town. They got police like nobody's business. And I thought that's a wonderful point about the convoy. What it did was expose what our government is willing to do to us. Yeah, exactly.

And that's, I was doing a couple, once VFRF formed, I was doing a couple of different podcasts or Zoom calls. They had like 25 or 30 or 50 different groups on there. I don't try to scare people, but I just tell them, I was like, look, you need to understand how far these people are willing to go to implement their global enslavement plan. Like it's not just, you're going to protest. These people are just not going to turn around. So, okay, we'll stop doing it. There's like trillions of dollars at stake. There's world domination at stake.

You think you're alive, your lives mean anything to them? It doesn't. And they don't, sorry. Like I said, I'm not trying to scare them, but Canadians, they need to understand that the people who are doing this, perpetrating this, the elites, the world economic forum, whoever it is, is they're an enemy and they're a hostile enemy. And you need to realize that. I'm not saying doing anything bad to these people or whatever, but people need to get through

their heads that if these people, whether it's like the woke, what I call the red guards, right, the brainwashed sort of shock troopers of the preempts. progressive left or the large, you know, multinational corporations or the government and there are all these, you know, jackboots and brown shirts, the agents that they of the state with the police is they're not, they're not on your side. There is still, I think, good front line police out there, but they are, these people are enemies. They're hostile. And, you know, especially with the, with the red guards, like the woke folk is that.

Forgive me. Red Guards is a term from the, from Mao's time, correct? Correct. Yeah. So basically they had convinced all these students and young people through academia and brainwash them. This is a lot of stuff I learned from James Lindsay and he said,

you know, the oppressed people are easy to radicalize. So all the stuff you're seeing through academia, we have been for the past 10 or 15 years. Oh, you're, you're been oppressed by the colonizers and, you know, the white men and blah, blah, blah, and the male hierarchy, all this stuff. So they oppress, they make them feel like they're oppressed, and then it's easy for them

to radicalize them into these red guards. So if these people had the spine or the ability or whatever, they would round us all up and get rid of us if they could. So that's what they did. Forgerna and us for us. Yeah, Forgerna and for us, they're a lot of the, they made the big mistake of, you know, convincing the men to be spineless little, you know, frat, like the women are bigger than the men. Yeah.

Right. So it's not a threat to us there. However, where they are a threat, and that's what their main sort of attack vector is, is cancel culture. They use fear for everything. And, you know, guys are afraid to step up and speak out because they're going to get canceled, right? They're going to lose their job and that sort of thing. So they do have them pretty effective tools that they can use, but on the physical side. A lot of them are just spineless little weasels who weigh like 95 pounds soaking wet.

So, you know, there's a reason, you know, I would say the veterans of our country, not all of them, because there's something, there is a bunch of guys out there, what we call Bolsheveterans or Bolshevettes who are just like woke guys on the left. But the reason they attack our organization all the time and the anti-hate writes articles about us is because we're not afraid of them. What do we tell people all the time? Don't be afraid of these people. So we're not afraid. A lot of us are trained in, you know, whether it's, you know,

the ability to fight people or whatever. And then the identity politics that they use doesn't work on us, right? So our organization, I can tell you, we have Hispanic members, indigenous members, Chinese members, Korean members. It's just the fact that we're all veterans that brings us together. So they are feels so threatened, even though we're always peaceful, peaceful, patriotic guys,

they're threatened by us because of what we're capable of doing, even though we wouldn't not do it, identity, and we're, you know, we have a lot of women in the organization as well, but it's mostly men. And,

you know, you look at guys like we had talked about earlier, a guy like Chuck, do you think he's gonna, you know, Chuck's, bend the knee to, you know,

we had, we had the one million March for children here in, in Lloyd. Yep. And I invited Chuck because I was like, you know, A, I got a lot of time for Chuck. Yeah.

So shout out to Chuck. Two, I'm like, you know, if, you know, walking into that day, I'd never helped with a pro, like I've been in Ottawa, but I don't really think I, you know, I don't know what I did there. I'm sure I helped a little bit,

but not that much. Here it's like, it's my home community. I've experienced some different things. I understand, you know, it's better to show up and be overprepared than just try and react on it. So, you know, I went, we walked through it.

Like if I was an anti-protester or a protester against a counter-protester, and I was going to try and mess with us. What would I try and do? I was like, well, I'd try and get on the stage and I'd try and shut down their electric so they couldn't speak. So I put Chuck behind beside the plug it. And I'm like, Chuck, if anybody comes near it, I know you're not going to knock them out, but at the same time, I look at you and I go, I don't want to mess with Chuck.

So I just had Chuck stand there. Yep. And then I had another show to Tatar, I had him sit on the end of the stage and he looks like he's from the days of Vikings, you know? And, you know, and what did they, what did they, where did the eruption, where did the biggest commotion erupt close to where the, nobody ever got that close to check. But at the same time, I was very thankful he was there. And what they try and do, they try getting on the stage.

And when you have people who can do harm, but restrain themselves from doing harm, but you just know, like, I don't want to mess with that guy. Yeah. It, it shows itself. I mean, it's pretty evident. Yeah. And you're absolutely right. A ton of time for Chuck.

Yeah. And a ton of time for, and honestly, for all the military vets that come on the show because all of you have had, well, I always say you're like this small percentage of Canadians, right? Canada doesn't have this big military to begin with. So you're a tiny percentage of her population. And then a whole bunch of you have gone over and been deployed and seen things, which makes even a smaller percentage. And you did it before it all got too woke

and you don't think you were the worst human beings under the sun, which puts you even in a smaller category. Yeah, it's interesting is like the 2021 census, I think there was 461,240 veterans in Canada. So pretty big. We're the second biggest voting. I thought we were the biggest, but we're the second biggest sort of retiree slash voting block.

But what's interesting is the biggest one is teachers and educators. They're like 1.3 million. So they have three times as many. And a lot of the woke stuff and everything, it's coming there, they're, it's coming through educators in academia, right?

So they have a ton of influence. You go to look at the Canadian Teachers Federation who are responsible for 412,000 educators across the country. The first person they have on their homepage is that transgender person with the, the bull thing in his nose, right? So this is, it's been infected.

Our institutions are rot, into the core and they've done a number on that but yeah going back to the vet so we were did we had V for F guys marching from Newfoundland right to Vancouver Island with that we one of our main guys Jeff was one of the sort of lead organizers in it and we provided as much horsepower as we could and we try to spread our guys out to all the different protests out that protest is wildly successful is right over 100,000 Canadians marched across the country and but you know I me and a couple other guys shout to Terry and Aaron we went to the event in Barry and so I spoke there but we were we were just walk around we'd walk there was probably about a hundred or so

counter protesters there you know we got a good clip of one of these you know giant swamp donkeys telling this old guy to go away and die that went viral. These people are just filled with hate. And we, we just walked, we weren't afraid. We just walked in amongst their little things there. They would not look us in the eyes at all. And, you know, even though I made fun of them a little bit in my, in my speech there, I was talking about Yuri Besanov, you know, the fat bottoms. I said, you know, there's a lot of fat bottoms over there, which there was, because they've been brainwashed so badly to think that everything is, that's good for you is actually bad for you. So they're fat. They eat poorly. They don't exercise. Like they've

been completely subverted and they don't know what the truth is. But I actually feel bad for them because a lot of them are young people and they didn't just, you know, flip a switch and that's the way they have been brainwashed by adults in this country. Right. It's not their fault. they have been completely brainwashed through academia through university and high school and that sort of thing and it's us as the adults of this country who let that happen right so I think it's the responsibility

is on us to try and do our best to try and fix that because these people didn't do it to themselves this is a coordinated effort and attack through academia through the school system to brainwash these young people and it's worked perfectly. And that's why there's so many of them. And that's why if you have, you know,

someone like Josh Alexander, who's a younger, a younger guy, I think he's 17 or 18 years old. It's like for every one of, you know, thousand or 2,000 brainwashed thing, there's like one of him who didn't fall to the brainwashing. And then he becomes this huge political figure because of what he's saying and how he says it

and what he stands for and everything else. Yeah, and you look at their crew of people go around. And this will we emphasize to people all the time is, do not be afraid. I can tell you Josh Alexander is not afraid, right? And so the only thing they can use is fear. And so we got to make sure or try and reemphasize to people. It's like, don't be afraid. Do not be afraid of these people.

The more of us who stand up and push back together, the better it is for all of us. Did you see, I feel like you must have seen, the, um, uh, the recent clip of Trudeau with, now is it Bill Blair? I forget talking about military involvement. Can, can you explain this to me? Yeah. Because I was, I was trying to dig up like the full, because it cuts it off really abruptly. And I'm like, okay, is there more to it? Like, uh, maybe you can explain it to the listener and to me what you see and what you heard. Yeah. So I can actually. Talk about that in depth. Shout out to our friend, I'll just call him DL as there is initials. He's from the Twitter Count Contrarian tribe. He's wanted to put that clip together. He's also someone who we work on.

We have a 12-part video, short video series called Betrayal, where it talks about how our government has betrayed the Canadian forces, betrayed the people. But it's mainly focused on the military perspective. So one of our videos, I think it was, number two. I think we've only done three out of the 12 so far. One of the videos there talks about them lowering the standards within the CAF. So drop in the requirement of Canadian force aptitude test and then making the, making it so that permanent residence can apply to the Canadian Armed Forces. So not a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident. And then you think of yourself, well, they dropped at the apt to test, they test for spatial awareness, they test for mathematics, and they test for English. So you can have all

these permanent residents, apply, not even pass some sort of basic threshold test for English, and then all of a sudden they're participating in basic training. So very concerning. So we've exposed this for a while. But anyways, on that betrayal series, I think it's video two, we say, why are they doing this? Are they eventually going to open up or use Canadian, or Canadian forces troops against their own people. So we say that in the clip. And this is something that we've sort of been theorizing for, I'd say about three or four months now.

And so I'll just tell you quickly the backstory. Nothing about this has to be quick. Okay. Just saying. All right. Take your time. So I go to the trucker convoy. I'm on a couple videos.

It's one of Vivas, one or two of his live streams. And also, I think I did a press conference or, yeah, I think I did one press conference there. I got reached out to by a senior officer in the Canadian Air Forces. So even though I let tenant Navy, so it's like a junior officer, it's equivalent to a captain in the Army Air Force. You know, I was fairly distinguished. I was top. I'd worked with strategic joint staff, dean of all these different sort of senior organizations within the,

with what we call the center, Ottawa or NDHQ. Just because of the nature of my job, where I was the operations officer for the specialist unit. You work with C. Joc a lot. There's a whole bunch of stuff that you do. So like I said, even though only junior officer, I have a ton of contacts who I've worked with who are senior officers within the Canadian Armed Forces. So I get reached out to by a senior officer within the Canadian Armed Forces, someone fairly influential. And they said, hey, saw you there. Just an FYI.

the government has asked us to intervene in the trucker convoy and he said, we responded and said, quote unquote, we want nothing to do with this. Okay. So there was a couple guys there like my buddy, my brother Jake Spinney, because everyone was sort of worried that they're going to bring in the military. He's the guy who yelled at the CBC there at the war memorial. And I showed him.

I said, look, because I've been telling people this, but people don't believe me, but I actually showed him the message that was sent to me. me from this person and saying, look, and it's exactly how I said it. So quote unquote, we want nothing to do with this. So, um, then, you know, we, I was talking about this a little bit on podcasts and shows have done, you know, post-comvoy. And people make the guys are like, oh, no, they're never going to bring in the military.

It's just a joke, whatever. And it's like, no, they were. And then sure enough, at the public order the emergency commission, we need to ask and need a, for a tank, like a main battle tank. Oh, one will do. And then also at the Public Area Emergency Commission, they talk about what happened out here in Alberta, where they declared their state emergency,

and then they actually requested support from the base at Edmonton there. And they were testifying that they did. And they said, well, they were, like, dragging their heels and stuff. So the military didn't get involved. And on top of that, the only way they could have gotten involved was to bring these sort of heavy tank removal machines that have like these huge tracks on them. I think there's only seven of them in Canada.

And when I was talking to the senior officer there who was an army officer, because I don't know this being a Navy guy, he said, first of all, a bunch of them are what we call US unserviceable. And on top of that, if they actually brought these things through the streets of Ottawa,

just destroy the streets with the tracks, just churn them up because they're some sort of a tank recovery vehicle that they use in foreign countries. So we knew that the military wasn't going to come in, right? So military is not refused to come in or were dragging their heels to the point where they weren't involved whatsoever. What a lot of people don't know is they actually, there was a lot of military people from Pet or Petta Wawa who were at the convoy supporting the convoy.

There was a lot of guys there. Only a couple guys I think got caught like your brother Dallas Alexander. He got, you know, someone spotted him and then he got, I think he got in some trouble at the unit there. A couple other guys at the hill got caught. But so they're upset, right? Senior brass is pushing back against it. Now, the senior officer is like, I can even, you know, if we have some time to talk about China and the influence in Chinese troops,

Canada was training Chinese troops. I was a whistle, well, I don't know if I was the only whistleblower or one of a few whistleblowers who sort of blew the lid off that in 2018. but at that time Trudeau was upset and Vance who was a CDS or chief defense staff at the time said no we're not doing this anymore like he actually put his foot down so we're not training Chinese troops in Canada anymore so they put their foot down when dealing with the federal government in terms of the military getting involved so that obviously didn't I assume that the you know Justine and his and his cronies there weren't

too happy about that, that the military was refusing to get involved. So, you know, they start to do a shakeup, you know, guys, you know, leave, they persecute, you know, all these guys like Fortan, McDonald, all these seniors officers. And they, from my understanding, I don't know if this is true, but a lot of those guys are like conservative, you know, Rulot, conservative guys who aren't going to drink the woke Kool-lid. And then they, you know, discover a sexual assault from 1988, just all of a sudden mysteriously appears and they destroy these guys' career. Much like they did Mark Norman, who was a conservative guy as well, he was the vice chief of defense staff.

So anyways, they clear out all these guys. They get Wayne Eyre in there whose wife is, she's a chief of staff or a liberal deputy minister or whatever, right? So that guy's a full-blown liberal. And so they start to move people around the chess board, start to eliminate. guys, you know, like I said, because the sexual assault stuff. And then they open up the door. So they have the vice chief of defense staff as a female as well.

And what they've done, in my opinion, is they've opened up the door for a lady named Jenny Kerrigan, who is the head of like diversity and culture change in the Canadian Armed Forces, which is what's been destroying the Canadian Armed Forces. And, you know, maybe about four or six months ago, she comes out and literally the words out of her mouth, shout out to our friend Noah Charche at Eapok times, she said, diversity is a superpower. Those are the words that came out of her mouth. And we look at that and we just like, what a clown. So we put out a meme there that had her with like a clown nose on and a thing and just quoted her. And, you know, we do people like, oh, you're sexist, whatever.

like no or not. We're just saying anyone who says that, whether it's a woman or a man who says something like that is a clown because it's not a superpower. It's just a bunch of Marx's nonsense that you've forced on the forces to decimate them. So we know now through some of our contacts at NDHQ is that she is going to be the next CDS. The liberal government is dying just to say we have, you know, the first. CDS. Sorry, Chief of Defense staff. So she'd be the first female chief of defense stuff and they're just yeah they're just so excited to say that so she comes in they've purposely decimated got all the patriotic white male not even just white i know black guys who've quit over the the um the woke nonsense well it doesn't matter the color of your skin yeah

you can just be a a common sense individual wherever you're at whatever sex you're at and go this is wild yeah so they've purged all them so they have a shortage i think I think there was a report yesterday or any of it within the past couple days saying now they're like 20 or 25,000 troops short. So she gets in. Any senior officer still in right now drinks the Liberal Party Kool-Aid, right? They open up to permanent residence. Okay. The big bottleneck right now, which we've been reporting, I don't want to say reporting because we're not, but we, uh, not a, you know.

Exposing or talking about. Exposing. Yeah. that the biggest block to getting these 26,000 permanent residents who've applied has been what we call pre-sec. So it's a pre-security clearance. So because you've been out of the country or you're not a citizen, you have to go through an extra couple steps of security clearance, right? To even get into the application process to get your regular security clearance. So what happened is they announced this.

every, you know, Indian dude and his brother applied, but they still have to go through that pre-security clearance. They have no infrastructure in place outside of what they already had. So in like one year, they approved 178 of these permanent residents to get into the Canadian Armed Forces. Now we know there's another story that's going to be coming out within the next couple days. And that's something we've been saying for a couple months is as soon as they get around that pre-security clearance,

the floodgates are going to open and it's going to be all of these 20, 25,000 permanent residents who are basically going to be a foreign legion within the Canadian Armed Forces. We know that they're now using the IRCC, which is immigration, refugee, and citizenship, Canada. They're using that information to grant them

their security clearance, which is ridiculous. So they're using, just for them to apply as an immigrant or a permanent resident, just give some basic information, they're now taking that and using that information to void the pre-security stuff, right? So that's how they're going to get them in. And that's, I think the trial started already, or it might be starting in a week or two. Flood gates are open. They're going to get all these permanent residents in. These permanent residents have no loyalty to Canada. They have no loyalty to the old stock or Christian Canadians, which is who they're going to be,

who the military has been targeting. You can just see all levels of government. They say, happy Ramadan. They don't say happy, you know, Easter or whatever, right? That's all being done on purpose. It's all coordinated. And remember those communist style struggle sessions I was talking about? Those are increasing in frequency. Um, and they're happening at basic training. So you got all these permanent residents and now we have the numbers. 40% of the permanent residents who apply are, uh, Indian from Punjab province. Uh, I think 10 to 15% are, Chinese. I don't have the numbers right in front of me. There is like, I think they said 10% from South America and they actually have it all broken down with the percentages. They said there might

have been a handful of Ukrainian refugees who applied, but generally it's a visible minority who are applying for these positions. So the communist style struggle sessions, which I participate in one and said I refuse to participate in these anymore because it goes against the Canadian Armed Forces Ethos, but actually being the smart guy I was at the time, I actually printed off the slides for that briefing. I think there's like 86 or 90 slides. But on there it has all the speaker notes, right? All the references. So you can see what the presenter has in her notes and who, who our references are.

Who does you have in the references? Abraham X. Kendi, the anti-racist. Kimberly Crenshaw. All these people have been perpetrating, like all the race baiters, that's all they're using those as all their references. And when they get into these again, you're colonizer, white man bad, you're responsible for all.

So you got to think about it. You have all these non-white permanent residents coming in with no loyalty to Canada. They get these communist style struggles. sessions throughout their career. So basic training throughout their career, white man bad, white man bad, Christians bad. And tie that into you had senior officers with a trucker convoy who refused to get involved. Now they purged all those people. They put in their, you know, yes man Jenny Kerrigan, whose diversity is a superpower. She has this foreign

Legion coming in who have been going to be brainwashed. Now you there is a level of brainwashed you have to do anyways to get the Canadian Armed Forces because you have to you know the enemy and you got to be willing to kill people but you have now all these people because if Canadians rose up the police get overwhelmed the police pretty damn quickly right but now they have this manning pool this large force of anti-white people coming in and that's the you have think about how did that work for Rome when they started letting the Gauls in that all Gaul legions within the Roman legions they sacked Rome right so you have all these guys that's going to make up like right now they get all they're short 20 something

thousand troops they're bringing in they had 26,000 permanent resident supply our full fighting strength right now for gang force for Reg Force 71,500 so if they get these 20,000 in that's a huge portion Right. So they're building these foreign legions. And so my theory is that they're doing this. So the next time Canadians are upset, like you saw that National Post article probably from a couple weeks ago where they said Canadians are eventually going to revolt due

to poverty and what's happening. They have, they have a force that will go in and have no tie to the human being. So I've been talking about this. Or to the Canadian. Canadian. So I've been talking about this for, you know, a couple months. And then sure enough, like I said, our, our guy, D.L. there at Contrarian tribe.

He, and it like went viral on hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of views. And so they're talking about making changes. Now I haven't had, because I've been out here in Alberta, I haven't had the time to go through the true nor strong and free that, or whatever their doctrine is that they're using. It's replacing something called strong, secure and engaged SSC, which came out, I think, in 2016.

So once I get in there, we have a bunch of guys. We got Mike from Freedom Honey. Yeah, there's a bunch of our guys. guys are friends of ours who are looking into that and sort of getting the details of it. So I'll take a look when I get a chance. But they have always, the military has been what they call aid to civil power. They've always been able, they've been able to request, you know, the military to help out with certain things.

Military was heavily involved in the Olympics in Vancouver. When was that 2000? Was that 2012? No. Or maybe it was. The, yeah, the Winter Olympics. Vancouver 2010. 2010.

So they're heavily involved with that. They're aid to civil power for that. So they have been able to use that in the past, where they have been able to bring in the military to help with certain things or help with police forces. So I'd have to look at what happened previously and what changes they've made right now. But I'm not going to put it by this government to do that on purpose

and make changes there because they, like I said, said if Canadians stand up, they can overwhelm police forces and they will need to bring in the army. You, uh, you paint a very dark picture. Yeah. Uh, you know, like when I first watched clip, I'm like, I, I don't know. What am I missing? But you, I appreciate you walking through it because, you know, when you, when you start to

put out, oh, yeah, and these people who said no, because I, I feel like, um, a big fear of the convoys, they're going to bring the military. And then you heard, oh, the military said they're not coming. They want no part. And I remember hearing, oh, they're trying to get all these tow truck drivers. And then tow truck drivers want no part. And on and on. Nobody wanted to comply with what the government was asking.

And so, you know, leave it to, you think they're dumb people. But instead, what are they doing? They're getting the pieces in the right positions. So the next time they have the military. military or what have you to go in and dismantle it real fast. Correct. Yeah. So they're setting the conditions on the battlefield, which will, it will happen again.

Canadians will, will rise up again. They will revolt. And they want to make sure they have max, uh, you know, the resources available to them who are willing, who are willing to do it. But again, all this stuff that I say, I hope I'm wrong. I got hope I'm wrong about this, but I look at everything. I said, would they do anything differently? So they have this foreign legion

where they're brought in like why open up why open up the Canadian Armed Forces to Because their numbers are dwindling And they're trying to find a way And under their mantra Of DEI of You know white man bad

Christians bad They can't go after what you've already pointed out Is like who are the people Who are the people who want to join the military? I'm not saying all But majority or a healthy majority would say the rural Canadian who likes guns,

drives around in machinery and off-roading and all these different things that just translate well. Yes. And outdoorsmen. Yeah. Oh, wait, what do you do in the rural walk of life? That. Right?

And so you go, but they don't want that. So now they have to try and find ways to fill their numbers because they're supposed to have all these, you know, they're supposed to have a military of X. We're supposed to have these NATO agreements on how much they're spending and the blah, blah, blah. What's crazy about the permanent resident thing? I'm married to a permanent resident. My wife's from the States.

She can't vote, but they're going to let them serve in our military. Do you know, like, if we look at the United States, does the United States allow that? And the reason I asked that, I was for a friend's wedding, we went to Jamaica recently. And I was talking to one of the locals. And he was talking about his son who was 1819. And he was saying that, you know, I was saying, oh, like, you know, in Jamaica, like, what is, what is your son going to do, et cetera? And he says, well, he's training in the military right now. It's not, any of you said, it's not very good.

And it's like, okay. I'm like, well, why is he doing it then? He's like, because if he gets so many years in the Jamaican military. JDF, yeah, Jamaican Defense Force. They can move into the United States military. Does that make sense to you? Hmm. I haven't heard that.

but that could be. Yeah, I'm not too sure. I can't really comment on that. But I know they, I believe in the United States, they do have military service can fast track to citizenship, I believe, I'm not too sure.

But all the Western militaries are facing the same problem. Same problem. Recruiting retention issues once Trump left in the U.S. military. the same thing in the UK, the German. So we're with with V for F, we're partnered with a bunch of different veteran groups

across the country or across the world through the global veterans coalition. And so we talk about this sort of thing and we're partnered with the big group veterans for America first, who are the America first, you know, America first, you know, large group of veterans who back that movement

down the United States and the same thing's happening to there. So all this stuff that's happening, all the DEI, all the woke nonsense. It's happening to all the Western militaries, all the NATO militaries, they're all facing the same problems. You think, hmm, why? That is in coincidence.

Yeah, it isn't. And because if you, there's a book out there, I think it came out in 1998, or 1999. Shout out to Jeff, who got me onto this book. It's called Unrestricted Warfare. And it's written by two Chinese colonels. And it's something that, it's a book that, they wrote that largely became adopted within the People's Liberation Army or that's the

that's China's military and one of the first rules the one of the first rules of a unrestricted warfare is that there is no rules and so these guys you know what they're doing in China is they are dismantling the West powerful Western militaries from within they're not even firing a shot all this woke ESG DEI nine is being pushed down through whether it's a world economic forum or whoever it is, which is mainly backed by China. And so we're doing it to ourselves. And China is just sitting there laughing because the basis of that book is how they can win

using a going against a superior force in terms of technology and training and that sort of thing. So it's all these guerrilla tactics that they use to destroy their enemies, not using conventional warfare as their main attack vector. And there is no rules. So you think about it. Who is benefiting from Canada having a weak, military, undertrained, under equipped, understaffed? Who is benefiting from the United States, having trouble retaining people,

them, you know, using up all of their ammunition reserves going over to Ukraine, you know, having all the DEI stuff in there. So you think about that. So apply that to all the Western militaries. Who's benefiting from that? China. They're the ones benefiting from all of the stuff because we're, there are our enemy. And, you know, this is where I talk about being the whistleblower for us training Chinese

troops and training, sharing these pilots. You read my brain because, you know, like. So, so that stemmed from basically, I did a nine month deployment to the Middle East, 2012, 2013. Boarding specialist, that was my, you know, bread and butter. But I was a junior officer at the time. And there's something called the Naval Officer Professional Qualification Board, where you have to, you know, sit in front of a bunch of admirals and

commodores and you get peppered by questions for like two hours. And it's like my buddy Rick Capell is the Cappell is the Cesar. CEO of Fleet Diving Unit Pacific. He said he has been dismantling IEDs in Afghanistan under incoming enemy fire. And he was more nervous doing his naval officer board than that. So anyways, it's a big deal. It's how you get what we call the basic training list or BTL. So it's how you get off the basic training list to actually become at your operational or occupational function point.

Like you were a fully trained soldier or whatever trade you are. But anyways, that time I was coming home from that deployment, we were sailing through the South China Sea in that Asian area of operations. And back then we didn't have, you know, you didn't have super high speed internet there. And to get to prepare for my NOP unit or the board, yeah, I'd sit there in the operations room and data mine. So you're looking at secret networks and, you know, documents and briefings and that sort of thing. you're really trying to get a large amount of knowledge so that when you challenge your NOPQ board, you are speaking from position of strength and you like knock it out of the park and you pass your board.

So I was reading about the Asian area of operations, South China Sea. And this again, this was 2013 February, March time frame. And what I was reading, all the reports, the briefings, the close encounters, what the China was doing, you know, with building these man-made up. islands and the Air Force base. And, you know, it was clear to me as a junior officer at the time that China was our enemy. Clear. Like, it was like night and day.

They're not our ally. United States are ally. Um, and the NATO countries are allies. China is not an ally in 2011, I believe it was. They did a huge, uh, attack on, uh, D.RDC, which is like a research civilian. research wing of the Canadian Armed Forces where we have all, spend a lot of money with engineers and stuff coming up with new technology. And so they did this big terrorist,

they're terrorists, this, this economic attack or cyber attack on us to get all this information. The United States doesn't do that to us. Like that, that country doesn't do it to Canada. China did it to Canada in 2011. So I'm basically getting out,

they're clearly an enemy, okay, to the Canadian Armed Forces. You know, as I go through my career, I witnessed them inviting that to rim of, they invited China to the rim of the Pacific in 2014, which is the big, huge, like biggest, uh, military training exercise in the world. And they're inviting China. I was like, what the heck? Like, what, they're, they're not our friends. Why are we trying to teach them how we, how we do, you know, the business of war?

And, um, I think they invited again in 2016. The Canada invited the Chinese over to Victoria, so my base. And I was like, we have Chinese ships in Victoria in BC. And we're like welcoming them and everything. I'm like, what the heck? This is our enemy. Why are we doing this? And then eventually when I got back, before I was in recruiting,

I did a quick stint at Joint Task Force Central as a senior watch officer. So anything that happens in Ontario comes through my desk, whether it's, you know, Russian spy planes or, you know, any sort of significant incident report or sexual assault or someone loses their ID, like anything happens on there, it comes to my desk before we decide that it goes up to the general. And so again, I'm sitting on the third floor. You can't have your phone up there because of the top secret clearance to be up there, or secret clearance, sorry, to be up there.

And so you're just sitting there like data mining, going on CSR secret network and reading stuff and trying to kill time because if nothing, nothing's happening. then you don't really have anything to do. And then sure enough, and I just left that specialist unit, which is very sort of, you're focused on that, nothing else.

And I start going in there, and I start seeing that we're having Chinese troops in Canada that we're doing training with. And I'm at the warfare center and pilots. And I'm like, are you kidding me? I was like, are you kidding me? This is ridiculous. And I just got fed up.

And I said, at the time, I sent an email to Rebel News because they're the only ones I really knew at the time who might look into something this. So I sent to create an anonymous account, sent them a thing. I said, yeah, just look into this. And sure enough, that kicked it off. And you can actually see the timeline. I think I don't know the guy.

I think his name's Kane Bexty or something like that. I don't really know him. Keen Bexty? Yeah. So he had done the initial thing where they were reported later late. They found some pilots or were training Chinese pilots on an abandoned Air Force base. and then open up the floodgates. And I think what they did is started to look more and more into it.

And they started to get these details. And again, there's something you can look up on the webpage. You can say, you know, CAF or Canadian Armed Forces is training with Chinese military. They actually have it, or with the People's Liberation Army. And they actually have it all broken down there of when they did it. And then sure enough, it stopped. I think it was 2018 or 2019. It's like, no longer training, no longer training.

And you can go read the backstory about. about why that happened and Trudeau was upset oh we got to let the Chinese down easily or this is like no you just need to stop training them immediately because you're training them and again this was in the betrayal video series that we've done we're highlighting that stuff is like why are we training the enemy

it's ridiculous so yeah that was a that was a big thing and people have caught onto it and that was I know there's a that guy Sam Cooper has done a lot of great work exposing Chinese influence in Canada. But I think that was the first sort of step that we took to expose the Canadian Armed Forces training the Chinese troops. And when I tell this story, I've told it on a couple different podcasts, as I say, there might have been other guys who rang the, you know, blew the whistle as well. I just know I did. So I could be the sole guy or there could have been five of us. But the question I have is, why is a junior officer, even though

You know, I'm fairly decorated and have a lot of experience and receive accommodations and had a pretty good career. Why is it a junior officer, naval officer, who's blowing the whistle on this? Why isn't senior army officers or Air Force officers or senior NCOs like chief petty officers or chief warrant officers raising the alarm on this? It's crazy. And so it sort of leads me question some of these guys, whether they have the moral courage or fortitude,

stand up and push back against this. And now it's clearly seen. Look, look what China's done. Like, they have completely infiltrated our country. There are so much Chinese money in Canada there. Shout out. I know a lot of people are doing some great work there with Sam and Andy and some other,

and Epoch Times doing a ton of work on this stuff. But, you know, They have so much money in the country. If we sort of listen to CIS or whoever the people were who were talking about this a decade ago, we might have been able to mitigate some of this, but now they're completely influenced. The Chinese police stations, I don't know if they've done this story yet, but we facilitated transfer some documents about patents through universities that China's involved with. You've got the Winnipeg Bio Lab.

Like they've completely infiltrated and taken over our country, unfortunately. I don't want to be, it's all like the negative stuff, but it's the reality of it, right? No. Of what's happened. Yeah, I think, you know, when when CIS is, like it's literally coming out over and over again, how much they influence 2019, 2021 elections. Yep. And on and on it goes.

It just keeps coming out, right? I don't, I don't think you're, the. permanent resident thing was really new to me. I'm trying to like grapple with that when it comes to the military. When it comes to China's involvement in our elections and how much they've infiltrated, the amount of money in this country, the amount of companies they own, the police stations, on and on it goes. You know, I guess, you know, I sometimes you forget to add it all up and see what it looks

like. And like, look at this. This ain't good. And what are they, again, warfare term? What are they setting the conditions for? Like, why are they doing this? And it's all intertwined and related. The question is why?

Why are you doing this? Why are you destroying our military? Why are you taking so much Chinese money here? Why? Like, do you just have to ask those questions about why? And, yeah, it's, you know, the military is going to be a big, big thing to fix. You know, we, so our organization, you know, we're probably mostly guys who are, you know, center or right of center. we got a lot of members

people always call me they're some conservative show it's like no I'm not I'm just some regular dude from Scarborough like you know I'm not you know they accuse me of being all this it's funny because I have like my group of friends

they always want to put you in a box yeah yeah yeah and I've had some people interviewed and they say you know I was a conservative and I say well who said I'm a conservative I don't let people paint me into that box there is no box I'll just if the green party came to me and said, look, we're going to leave you alone. Instead of climate change, we're going to focus on pollution and you're going to have, you know, less tax. I vote for green,

right? That's who I'd vote for. And, um, but the military is going to be a problem. And this is what I was on with, uh, our friends there, Canadians for Truth, uh, during a series of interviews there, but much like what happened with Trump, when Trump got into power, the deep state, all the generals were all against him. When he told them to do stuff, they didn't do it. They said they did it, but they didn't do it. They said, okay, he wanted all the troops out of Syria. They said, okay, they're out of Syria, but they weren't out of Syria.

And basically what they're doing is like, they're like, just biding their time, waiting for the next election to get in, to get for them to get the Democrats in or whoever, for them to, you know, continue on with their business. Now, what's happened with the gnarren forces, as we had something called the PERS, so personnel evaluation reporters, your yearly report,

which factors into how well you're doing, where you need to improve, and you're going to get promoted and that sort of thing. They came out with a new system. I think it was maybe two years ago. On that new system, what do they have in there? What's a bullet point in there?

Inclusivity. Right? So you get graded on how inclusive you are. And that's going to determine when you get promoted. It's like how much are you going to drink the woke Kool-Aid and DEI and that sort of thing. So they purge all these guys. I know guys who sent me their, it's called PAR now, Pierre, who've sent me their PAR reports where they're like,

we're not participating in this. And then for their inclusiveness, it's red, like developing, and you're not being inclusive enough. Those guys aren't getting promoted. So what you've got to think about is this. All the working ranks of the Canadian Armed Forces, sergeants, warrants, captains, lieutenant navies, guys like me, I was going to be a career guy.

I was going to stay until compulsory retirement age. I was going to stand to 60. Then I quit early. So what they have now is that this vacuum, right? So all the guys are getting out, all the hardened combat guys, right? They're not putting up with this crap. They're all getting out. Now there's a vacuum that's being pulled up.

I hope we've got to hire people. We've got to get new sergeants and new warrants and new petty officers. is this sort of thing. But we're promoting you based on how partly of how inclusive you are. So if you don't, you're not drinking the woke Kool-Aid, you're not getting promoted. So they pull these people up. Now those people are in charge of these other people, right, who aren't participating in this stuff. We have, you know, like I said, we're apolitical in terms of we don't show bias

towards whatever political party, the conservatives get in power. We're going to hold the conservatives to account, even though the majority of our memberships most likely conservative. In fact, we have several conservative candidates who are part of our organization. But we're basically telling, because we have, like I said, we have some lines to different people in the conservative party, is that that institution now, again, is rotten to the core. And you're going to have to do a full-fledged purge of the Canadian Armed Forces to get people out. Because what I think is when you have your chief of defense stuff is Jenny Kerrigan, diversity is a superpower, that clown. And you have all these other people who are like senior officers, another guy.

We're going to get this guy soon too with a story. He is the commandant of the Canadian Forces College. You can look them up. And he has Twitter. And the stuff he's saying on Twitter. Like I haven't even talked about Operation Sassy Sailor. That's a whole other. Sassy sailor.

Yeah. Put that one on. Let's put a pin on that one. We'll come back to that one. So you have all these people who are in positions. All woke stuff. Oh, you're all pressed. Oh, you're all colonized.

White man, bad. They are who are the senior in the senior ranks of the Canadian Armed Forces. So even if the conservatives come into power, what we're telling them through our back door communication line is you need to have hearings and you basically need to interrogate all these senior officers and the people have been peddling this communist nonsense. And if they're guilty, you need to fire those people. You need to bring in guys who've stood up against this thing, like Michelle Masonov, right? He's one of the only generals who stood up and pushed back against the woke crap.

He did a speech. He did several articles in the National Post. He's a guy you'd bring in as an advisor. Bring in Mark Norman. Mark Norman was going to be the next chief of defense staff. Trudeau and his cronies because of shipbuilding contract. Brison, one of the MPs, destroyed this man's career. And he had served our country, I think for either 33 or 37 years.

That guy wasn't going to roll over and he pushed back. And the type of man that he was is when he won or they stayed the charges, they said, okay, what's next? He said, I want my job back, even though you have just, you know, destroyed my life. And they said, well, that's not going to happen. So then whatever they did, they settled and that sort of thing. But he's a guy who needs to speak out against this, what's happening. But all these people participate in the communist destruction of Canadian Armed Forces, they need to be purged.

You need to be fired. And you need to bring in senior people who are going to put mission first, who haven't drank the liberal Kool-Aid, and who are going to rebuild a strong and effective Canadian armed forces that are going to protect Canadian citizens, both and Canadian interests, both at home and abroad. Under Trudeau, that isn't going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. And so when the conservatives get, now, hopefully they do the right thing. If they don't, then we're going to hit them up for that as well. But there has to be a purge of all these people who've destroyed.

The Kenyan Air Force is destroyed. I talked to a chief petty officer first class who's fairly, that's the highest non-commission officer or non-commission member that rank you can achieve. So I talked to this guy and he says it's going to take 30 years. If it started today, it will take 30 years to rebuild. the Canadian Armed Forces. Oh, the camera died again. Welcome to being in the studio where things, and of course, the one that died before and

I swear, it doesn't matter. Folks, if you're not, who cares? The audio is fantastic. I'm sure we got plenty of video. It's just irritating. You said 30 years to rebuild the Canadian military. That's what he said. So he knows because he's actually works for director of military careers or military personnel

command. Hopefully I didn't give him away about who he is. But he that's he said if we started today 30 years it's going to take to rebuild the canary armed forces. So all these people oversaw the destruction of our Canadian Armed Forces, which is actually a threat to our national security. Right? Because our first line of defense is going to be the military. And so when they've done this, they're actually, that's why we are our series of videos we call it's called betrayal. You have betrayed the country from taking an effective fighting force, imposing communist nonsense on it, and completely destroyed the operational effectiveness and capability. I would hold hearings and I would grill these people about who told you to do what.

I have a great email saved from a vice admiral at the time who came out and said, you know, the Royal Canadian Navy, you guys are all, you know, racist. And if any, any sailor has a problem with what I'm saying, they can email me directly. I said, okay, that's good. So I email them directly. I had two 90-minute phone calls with him. We found emails back and forth. He ordered me to read the anti-racist by Ibrahim X. Kendi.

I did, which is awful. And I responded to him and received it. And then the phone calls, he's like, he says, goes, Andrew, I agree with what you're saying. However, this current government needs to have. confidence in the leadership in the Canadian Armed Forces and this is what we're being told to do. And so all my major points I brought up to him, that was his answer. So basically he's saying, I agree with you. However, I'm spineless and I'm not willing to risk my career and step up and say anything.

So we're just going to carry on with what we're doing. And one other interesting point with the similarities between what's happening now and historically is, do you remember the movie Das Boot? Das Boot. Yeah. So it's the submarine, German submarine movie. And it was a good one. It's long four hours.

I think it is. But it's, so it's World War II. It follows a German submarine crew. And, you know, through a deployment. But what happened to Germany is that like national socialist representatives. So every single German unit or, you know, submarine or ship or whatever had a national socialist representative in there. in there, right? And they oversaw to make sure that the troops or the soldiers or sailors or division

or whatever that they were towing the Nazi party line. And there was no deviation from that. So there was like oversight by the Nazi party in every single major German unit. The same thing happens right now in the People's Liberation Army, so the PLA, they have communist representatives at every single unit. And so the commander or whoever it is of the Chinese unit, he doesn't have any say over that Communist Party CCP representative. That CCP representative actually has a lot of control over that commander and they're there as an oversight to make sure that there's no deviation from these military units that is going to go against and threaten the CCP. So those units, just like the German units in World War II, they're beholden to the Nazi party. The PLA or PLAN and the PLA

Air Force, whatever, they're not beholden to the Chinese people or the state. They're beholden to the CCP. And so think about that in the community. Canadian context is General Rick Hillier said it best and I think it was 1996, 1997. He said, you know, we're not just a public service department. The Canadian Armed Forces, we're in the business of killing people. That is our mandate, right? It hasn't changed unless it's changed in the past two years. But the primary role of Canadian Forces is to support infantry units to take and hold ground.

Everything we do from recruiting to promotion to training to R&D to procurement. all funnels down to supporting infantry to take a whole ground. Okay. Infantry, what do they do? Their primary role is to close with and destroy the enemy. And I would tell that. You get young kids coming to recruiting like 19 years old, you know, just out of high school. I'm like, oh, you don't want to be infantry.

And they're like, well, what skills do you have? Oh, I'm a competitive call of duty player. Is that, that's what they say to me. And I'd say, look, man, realistically. is like, tell me what the infantry does and they always, they say the same thing. Oh, you know, humanitarian missions

and we help people. And I was like, no, your role will be to close with and destroy the enemy. You are going to kill other people. Can you imagine? I'm sorry, I just, you know, I can't imagine telling my son, okay,

you go into an interview, you're going to sign up for the military, okay. What do you, you know, What are you going to tell them that are your skills? And if they told me, I'm a solid call a duty player. I'm like, I have done something wrong. No, that's a, yeah, so that's a good one. But the funniest one I ever saw or heard was one guy, because when you go through like leadership, like,

I would talk about your officers, talk about your, your leadership experience. One guy's leadership experience was, uh, he said he was a leader. of an ultra-competitive World of Warcraft Guild or Klan. That was his leadership experience. I was like, oh, okay. So video games.

Like nothing, we're in the captain of a sports team, none of this, none of that. I was like, nope, I play competitive world of Warcraft and I manage a large group. It's like, maybe that was.

I don't know. I just wrote it down there. I was like, I'm not going to give me any points for that, but. Um, yeah, so that's, uh, that's a state of it. So, you know, but, but going back to what I was saying about, you know, the way that, you know, if you talk about the CCPLA and the CCP and what they're doing there is that, you know, before I went to recruiting, this, you know, I was a, the senior watch officer. And so I'd be sitting around with all the commanders and light kernels and that sort of thing for all for joint task force central.

And they're talking about one of these larger exercises called Maple Resolve. There's something called the G9 or J9. I won't get into the details of that, but it was a certain position there. One of the things they mentioned was, you know, for this large exercise, you know,

what is the G9 going to do? Like, what are you guys going to do? And they literally said, and this is a senior guy who's approving this, literally said, is like, well, we're going to put what we call GBA plus teams, so gender-based analysis teams, which that's a whole other story.

I won't get into that. So we're going to have teams of these GBA plus teams going around the exercise and randomly quizzing troops on the use of pronouns. And I remember sitting there. It was like, it was like from old school with like Frank the Tank when he's dancing with his wife and the wedding singer starts swearing. He's like, what? No, no, it can't be.

I didn't hear that. Like, that's literally what I did. I was like, what? I did not just hear that. No, I did. And I remember looking at the colonel there, Colonel Guinea, good guy. And he just had this look on his face. And he was like, I can't believe I'm listening to what this is happening.

Like, this is literally what you're doing is you're putting pronoun police to go around and police the troops on pronoun use. I think of soldier Nitz and tell no lies, right? I was just talking about the essay he wrote in 1974, if I'm remembering correctly. And, you know, he's talking about, you know, like basically, you know, if you participate in lies, it perpetuates the lie. And all we can do, right, if all of us just didn't participate in a lie, it would cease to exist. Yep. But that's a very scary thing because, you know, now you're talking about people on their jobs and having to put everything on the line. Now, if we all put everything on the line all at once, well, I mean, it would go away real fast.

because society can't exist if we all shut down, right? So, and yet, Soldier Netson, I mean, everybody by now, especially on this thing, I talk about it an awful lot, right? Some of his thoughts have really been instrumental in looking at the world of today. Yep. And, you know, they perpetuate, or they continue on because, you know, people are afraid of, you know, losing their job, of societal judgment of getting,

I don't know, docks by some guy online and then, you know, the world's showing up and dragging them out by their feet. And what you're pointing out is like, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong on this. It feels like what you're saying is, you know, if we keep going the way we're going, eventually we get to the point where the Canadian military and the government are kind of lockstep. Correct. And once they have that, we're in real danger of some real bad things, worse than we got going on right now.

And that's saying something. Yeah, so that that's sort of what I was getting at is, you know, they're not, you know, when you join the military, you swear, you know, to the, the, it was queen for me, but the king, you're not beholden to the people or the government, anything like that. But what I'm seeing now is this complete shift or what I saw over my career is that now you're getting people to tow the liberal party ideology. And like I said, when I was telling that story, I remember looking at Colonel Guinea's face and he was like looking at him. Like it was disbel-I could tell he was disbelief, but he wouldn't say anything because he's like, if I go against the liberal woke nonsense and he's a highly decorated guy, he's like, my career is over. That's what I could see, like on his face. And this is something else we were looking into, like all these public affairs officers they hire. A lot of them are contract workers, civilians.

I remember saying there's one guy in there. As gay as can be, but flamboyantly gay. You know, I don't care about people's sexuality, sexuality is. But, you know, this guy was like, again, 250, 300 pounds. So flamboyant. The guy had so much power over Joint Task Force Central's G1 to G9. That's our Continental Soffing System. The chief of staff is a colonel, four ringer.

So Captain Navier colonel, chief of staff who reports to a general. All of the people in the different units from, you know, one to nine are three ringers, right? So commanders or, you know, like colonels that they have in the army. And there you have the civilian public affairs hireee who's there on contract, throwing around his power all about alphabets. stuff in in like in joint task force center all of Ontario and I was sitting there watching this and I'm like thinking to myself you guys are all a bunch of feckless spineless people like why aren't you pushing back against this stuff because this guy this public affairs guy right

it was literally the equivalent to the communist the CCP representative in the people's Liberations Army and the Nazi representatives, a national socialist representative in the German things. I was like, how is this person wielding so much power? Everything we did, well, we have to look at the LGBTQ plus two SIA perspective. We have to factor that in. It's like, hey, we're just organizing an ammunition transfer from one unit to another. But that's how much power these people have. These are all been put in place. Like, think about that pronoun police? And I talked to another guy. I won't say his last name, Brian, friend of mine, good dude. You know, he was talking to me about one of his boss was a major.

And at this unit, the major would sell him is like, look, if you come into my office and I answer in a deep voice, I want you to call me sir. If you come to my office and you ask me something and I have a female voice, I want you to call me ma'am. It was gender fluid major. And I remember talking to my buddy as Air Force captain. And I'm like, dude, that's harassment.

Like you're going in there and you just pause and like, okay, is this person going to answer me in a male voice or female voice and that's going to dictate to how I'm going to react to that? That's ridiculous. That is nonsense. And this is what they're doing. This is the people that are putting in positions in power in the Canadian Armed Forces, like this type of crap.

And then they say, oh, well, we don't know why. you know, the retention's low and our recruiting numbers low. It's because there's nonsense. No one wants to participate in this. I wasn't, I refused to participate in the medical stuff, but another portion was the communist style struggle. So I'm not participating in that. And, you know, like I mentioned earlier, I'm fairly unique, uniquely,

you know, I have a fairly unique body of work with qualifications and that sort of thing. My, my CEO at the time when I was getting out, he's like, because you can, I got a medical release, because I got a really bad knee. bad lower back from from deployments being at sea and he's like well look we can retain you for three years right and it goes like we really your experienced guy we want to keep you on his military career counselor what can we do i was like well you have to a get a new government but and then make changes to all your doctrine and policy but the second thing is i said i'm not participating in this i am not going to because like with them with military career counselors where the gatekeepers

like get people onto the competition list to get selected. I'm not recruiting young Canadian men and women into this woke Canadian Armed Forces. Like I'm not doing it. I'm not participating in this. So you can offer me, you could offer me double the salary. I don't care. I'm not, I'm not doing this.

I am not lying to these people and telling them that the Canadian Armed Forces is a good career because it's not. And so I got out and I was like, I could have stayed in, made three years more salary. But it's like, look, I'm a principal person. And I'm just, I'm not going to do it. You know, one of the things you got on the bottom of that, you know, you gave me this list of things. We can talk about all these different things. You know, we've talked about a lot of the, like the heavy parts of this, which obviously, um, uh, there's some heavy parts. Yeah.

But you have in their tactics to win. I want to win. I got young kids. I don't, you know, I want to win. I don't want to have to, you know, there's lots of people talking about lots of different things. mainly getting out of the country, going somewhere else, et cetera, right? And I go, I want to win. If I'm going to leave, it's going to be of my own accord,

not because of, you know, bullies or, you know, the machine coming down. So tactics to win, pert in my eye. Okay. Yeah. What does Drew got on that side of things? So, yeah. So with right now what we, in the military, we have three different levels. You have a strategic level.

So that's like senior officer, doctrine, policy, that sort of thing. You have the operational level, which is middle management. And then you have the tactical level. So tactical level is boots on the ground, things you can do in your everyday life to affect positive change or that's going to affect mission success or increase your chances of winning. So I tell people all the time is like there's a lot of big, you know, academics out there, you know, to get together and they just talk about, oh, yeah, we're how great we are and this. We're so smart or whatever.

And it's like, okay, there's a, there's a place for that. But if you go from the strategic level and nothing you do translates to the tactical level, you're not going to win. You actually have to have strategic level that translates into stuff that the operational level can do that can then translate to tactical level, things they can do boots on the ground to win, right? So just so I'm hearing it correctly, if all you ever do is talk about the problem, even if you identify it and have great things but never do anything about it, is a failure because honestly, you're, you're just sitting there doing nothing.

You've identified the problem, which is great. Yeah, but now you have to do things to get that resolved. Correct. So it's like, well, the so what? Okay, so what? This is what happened? Okay, so what is that going to affect me? What can I do to counter that?

So that's why I always talk about James Lindsay, uh, because he is an academic. He gives a strategic level guidance. He can tell he's extremely intelligent. He ties in historically what happened in China. And I met him down when I was down at CPAC, talked him for, about 20 minutes, really good guy. I know he came up to Alberta and I think he's actually coming up to Alberta again. I believe he is. And he's been on the podcast. Yeah. Oh, he's yeah. So love that guy, but he actually gives you stuff to do through like

he has a great podcast, new discourses. He gives like little 15 minute clips or you can listen to the whole thing. But he actually gives you things you can do. And so when I talked to him at CPAC, I said, hey, so you know the men's tampon story that came on in Canada? He was like, oh yeah. It's like, that was a direct result of you, us taking your guidance that you gave, like boots on the ground things you can do, put it out to our people and said, look, let's expose DEI and woke crap from within our institutions and organizations. And I said, we got that sent to us because one of our guys talked to his buddies, saw that happened, sent it to us, we put it out there.

I said, that was a direct result of you telling us or are you giving guidance, like tactical level guidance. So shout out to James Lindsay, check him out. awesome and really good on Twitter. But so with V for F and, you know, I'm just saying this is me, but it's actually, there's a collective of us. I'm just one of the main spokespeople. So it's not, this is not all my, these aren't all my ideas, right?

This is just stuff that I, that we sort of come together and in tabletopped or war games of how to, how to win is our strategic level guide. So there's two things that we say. One, we say localism defeats globalism and local change will have national impact. So those are our strategic level guidance. That's sort of the overarching thing. So from that strategic level, that can translate down into the operational level, translate down on the tactical level using those two things.

Our strategic lines of effort, so LOEs, so our lines of effort that we need to focus on, health and wellness, sustainability, and community. So we have our guidance, and we have our lines of effort, where we're going to focus our effort. So localism defeats globalism. You have,

I think it was Napoleon who said it. He said, amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics in a warfare sense. Okay. So you can talk all the strategy you want in the world. Oh, we can do this. If you don't have your logistics in order,

you're not going to be able to execute your, your strategy. So you look at the hierarchy of needs. What do we need to survive? Need water, need shelter, and you need food. If you don't have any of those things and you're trying to win this war, you have your chances of success or zero. So since November of 2022, we've been promoting something called the Victory Garden concept.

Have you ever heard of Victory Garden before? So Victory Garden was done by the United States and Commonwealth countries for World War I, World War II. It was a propaganda campaign put on by those countries or its own citizens and said, look, we have to feed troops. We have, there's strain on the supply chains because ships are being sunk by, you know, German submarines or whatever it was. And so they actually laid it all out for you. It's like, okay, in your backyard, you can put carrots, be. meats, yams, potatoes, whatever. And they actually had this huge government initiative

and undertaking to get the citizens of their countries to grow food yourself. And it was wildly successful because it eased the supply chain, the pressure on the supply chain, but also it fed the allied troops. It was a huge effort from with their country. And if they hadn't done it, they probably wouldn't have won't have won the wars, right? Because they were focusing on legit.

logistics, not just a strategy. So they got their logistics in order. So what we tell people's this is, and it's funny because Elon Musk, I think he said it last year, he said, GFY, and everyone thought he was saying, go fuck yourself. But he was actually, then he clarified, he said, no, grow food yourself. So we know they're using food as a weapon against us. Sun Tzu said it, you need to put yourself an unassailable position. So if we grow food ourselves, we take the weapon out of their hands, put it into our hands, the citizens of the country, and they can't use it against us. So we got a lot of guys talking about big game, oh yeah, you know, this and you know, I'll never bend the knee, whatever, you know. It's like, I don't know if your kid's starving, you watch how fast you're going to bend the knee. I've personally seen with my own eyes people starving to death. And it's, you know, when a Navy ship goes into a port, you ain't going to the cruise ship terminal. You get put in the industrial area.

So I was in Mumbai, India in 2013. And I remember just walking out of the industrial area right into the slums of Mumbai. Holy it was bad. Right. There was people malnutrition. Like it was it was awful. I always remember that and people begging for anything food like their kids are just just awful awful stuff. I saw actually saw like they had like an undertaker's cart there with people's leg feet hanging out the back.

It's it's a big problem. I think I want to think or I want to say that India has the biggest starvation program or star the highest rate of starvation in the world. I might be wrong, but it's it's definitely up there. Bad, bad joke, but I think of Monty Python. Do you know the movie I'm talking about? Bring out your dad? No. Bring out your dad.

Anyone? Monty Python search for the Holy Grail? No. That's like the opening scene is the, is the cart. That's a terrible, I don't mean to make light of it. It's just, you know, dark things. You go to a little bit of comedy. You know, the dark humor is a big thing in the military.

So I tell people is this, like, you know, and they go, going to a protest, one of the first things I asked, it's like, well, hey, do you have six months of, food prepared for you and your family? Oh no, it's a grocery store. I look, well, hey, maybe that food won't be available in the grocery store. I don't know. Or maybe you won't be able to afford that food. So if you can grow food yourself, you're taking care of your logistics and allowing yourself to get in the, stay in the fight. So one of our guys, so we've been pushing this whole do not comply thing, which I think, I think came from Chris Sky, I believe, I can't remember. But it's like, don't comply with legal mandates. If enough of us do not, don't comply, then it's

going to it's not really going to hold no weight in over our everyday lives. But one of our guys, shout out to our guy Mark there in V for F Central in Ontario there. And so he sent me a message. You guys, look, do not comply things good, but we need to shift it from do not comply to do not rely. So we have to stop relying on the government. We have to stop relying on multinational corporations. Choke points.

Yeah, exactly. and control points and control points. Those are where they can control us. That's, you know, I have a conference coming up or a forum, a course, some forum coming up, April 27th here in town. And what you're talking about is what I've been trying to get across, is, you know, the Tom Longo guy coming in from Florida, always talks about become ungovernable, right?

And Melissa McKee, how did she say it? you have to be ungovernable, but I can still, ah, freak, I can't remember how she said it. And the listener will tell me, but ungovernable doesn't mean go burn everything down. It means look at your life and go, where am I relying heavily on the system? Because that's a control point on it.

Right. So when you look at people's jobs, how they pay for their livelihood, how they support their family and their kids, it's a big control. And for some of us, we've been able to remove ourselves from some of that. For some people, you know,

they're heavily embedded in that. and they can't see around it. But then as soon as you start to peel back the layers, there's lots of different spots, you know? Our entire system is built on the grid, right? So there's lots of people talking about how do you remove yourself or how do you prepare yourself for if the grid ever goes down? And here in Alberta, in the middle of the worst time ever,

we had the first ever emergency alert go out saying, hey, by the way, we might be out of power. You need to reduce, you know? And the thing that terrifies me about the politicians here in this province, Drew, is when I've listened to them talk, because I've listened to Nathan Newdorf multiple times now, the minister of, what is it? Ah, it doesn't matter. He said, you know, like he's so proud of how Alberta responded.

Sure, okay, like I can get that. But then he went on to talk about, you know, and I'll butcher this a bit, and I don't mean to paint him in a bad light. It just tells me where we're at in society of like, you know, like we need to really incentivize people to reduce their power consumption. And the example he gave is the elderly, you know, turning their heat down to 16 in the coldest months and walk around in sweaters and blankets and saying, good on them. I'm like, that's not what I want to. That's not the message I want to send to the population. And you think with EVs and all the different things that are getting pushed hard onto our system, are we more likely to have that again or less likely?

And that's a choke point in all of our lives Because no different like you said Shelter, food, water, right? You go, well, a big chunk of shelter right now is if you're hooked up to the grid, how you're heating your house is something they've demonized called fossil fuels. And looking at one's choke points

is a good thing. You should be doing that right now and going identifying them. And if you can remove yourself, that's your do not rely. Yeah, do not rely. I think that's really honest. I think that's brilliant.

And, yeah, so again, shout out to Mark, because he's the one who told it. He got it from someone else, so he's not claiming his own, but it was a great thing. And we started to think about that. Like, yeah, this is how we need to evolve there. And, you know, I don't even call it the freedom movement anymore. I called the resistance movement. That was from our friend Barbara Kay. She's like, yeah, I call it that.

I was like, yeah, we're going to take a run with that. And we used to call it the mainstream media. Then I called it the legacy media. Now we call it the regime media, right? Like, there's, there's, there's. I agree. We called it we call GFM

government funded media and then our friend Jake was like it's not even media it's propaganda so GFP government funded propaganda but anyway so you think about that all right so we have

our three lines of effort so health and wellness okay so grow food yourself from there you're going to get better food or you can find local farmer

so I started a homesteading group It was like, what's a couple other guys there? We thought it might be 10, 20 people from my county in Ontario. It's up to, I think we have 150 people on the email list, 80 people active in our telegram. We just found a local farmer and bought a cow. I bought a quarter of a cow. Another guy bought a half or a quarter the way we were ever split it up. That boiled down, it was $7 a pound or $7.50 a pound.

You get flank stakes, you get everything, right? That farmer's super happy because we are eliminating the middleman and going right to him. right, all sorts of other stuff that you can get from him. You can still do that. You can do that with vegetables. Everything. Like, I mean, the lovely thing about this area, as you've seen driving here, surrounded by people with cattle and farms and growing vegetables and all these different

things, you can literally do that. You just got to make a few phone calls. And pretty soon you find this wonderful community that you can switch over relatively quick. Yeah. And that's what we're telling our, like our members, right? It's like start community groups, get involved, focus on food security, focus on community building and that sort of thing. And start to build these strong, resilient communities. Because if you do, when, you know, shit goes down or, you know, we're on the precipice of the kinetic portion of World War III or whatever, that's going to affect, you know, supply chains and that sort of thing, won't matter because everything is done internally in your little community.

So you're building that sort of buffer and that resistance from potential, you know, global crisis that might affect you if you weren't, didn't build that. So health and wellness. So we have, we did like a soft launch, something called V-FTV. We're doing a little bit of a hard launch later on. We're getting some help for people. But, you know, we have 10 or 12 different veteran podcasters. Some guys focus on warfare. Some guys focus on, you know, health and wellness, right?

So shout out to Dave Morrill, Hard to Kill podcast. because our thing is like, okay, well, your best course of action right now with the health care system is to stay out of the health care system. So get groups together, get together once a week on Saturday morning, do hikes, do whatever it is, work out together, do something, your fitness and active. Stop smoking, stop drinking. You know, me, I was like a slaw. I turned myself to a slaw because I was so busy. I was like 272 pounds. One of our guys there, Sammy, said, look, you got to do car.

carnivore diet. I did kind of start a carnivore diet on 26th of December. I lost 40 pounds in in a couple months working out active again and sort of leading by example. And so we have a lot of our guys starting to do that. And we tell them it's like become a pillar in your community. A lot of people are out there, good Canadians who are just a little bit scared. All they need is a bit of, you know, guidance and some leadership. You know, if you can provide that or support someone who can provide that, then do it. Because, again, local change will have national impact. So if we build these strong, resilient, it's mostly, most of those are going to be rural,

rural communities, that's going to have a national impact, right? Imagine, like, the Hutter rights out here, I think you guys have, yeah, I think you have the only or most of the Hutter rights out in Canada with their farm stores. I got sent a video of one of these farm stores. and that's a whole other concept, Fob farms or Cooperter Farms, but I won't get into that. But basically,

they went in, you went onto their farm, and you opened the door, they had everything. They had a bakery in there. They had, you know, local honey,

they had milk, they had eggs, they had apples from their orchard, and it was all bought or all made either on that farm or like local, like other farmers who bring their products there.

So you say, hmm, imagine if you could do that in every single rural community, right? There's all sorts of initiatives you can do. Community supported agriculture, permaculture. So our fob farm that I live on, we adopted the market gardener principles, Curtis Stone. Curtis Stone is coming April 27th. Yeah. So I'll give you a quote from him. But anyway, so when we built this fob farm concept or cooperative farm concept, it ties in Curtisstone cooperative farming.

John is either 410 or 4J, the market gardener, and then Michelle and Rob Davis, who are friends with Curtis, permaculture. They do verge permaculture. So one of their underlings or their understudies came in and did a full assessment on our 37-5-acre property for food for us and everything. Because when our farm is what we call FMC or fully emission capable, it should be able to provide food to five or 600 families in our community. So you're like, take that concept and replicate it. Every single rural community had that sort of thing. Then we're laughing. You know, there would be no need for like no frills or whatever grocery stores because

you're eating good food. You're not eating processed garbage. Everyone in your community is healthy. And you're supporting local farmers. Then local employment, right? And that's how you do it. So. And you don't skip over this.

But the other thing I think. that is a byproduct of it is. Magic how much cooperation and having to deal with people one on one and like in person would have to happen with that. Yeah. And in our society, you know, we've gotten to a point. I mean, COVID like literally injected it into the entirety of society where we dealt with people through that machine or our phones and it's unhealthy.

It just is. And I was, you know, like they talk about supper time with your family, how important it is and how it reduces stress and it reduces all these different things. And one of the things, you know, that to me is really important about suppertime is it puts you across from all your family. So it's like a miniature health check every night.

And you can see when people are starting to struggle. And when you care about people and you see them struggling, you help. And I mean, if you take that to your community and now you start interacting and you see people struggling and you start to help them, then you pull them out, now you can see how you build a resilient, And that's a byproduct of what you're talking about.

Yes, exactly. And so, you know, because when I grew up, there was, when it was dinner time or supper time, there was no phone calls were allowed. Like your friends knew you didn't, you couldn't call between five and six. It was no, it was no go. There was no phones. And if someone did call, it would be like, at supper time. And then like hang up the phone.

One of your friends made a mistake. But yeah, so exactly. So our homesteading group there, we have socials like once a month or once a quarter, right? We have get together is once a quarter. or at a local church who allows us to go there. We bring in speakers. We run workshops, right? How to pressure can, seed exchange.

You had a soap workshop. We had all this thing. Then you can have animal husbandry workshops. And so what I tell people is like, look, I know people are people sitting on money or whatever, but start to focus on skills, start to focus on equipment. Like our farm has a ton of equipment. We have right down to the every single damn hand tool in case the gas power to whatever breaks. I have Doug Casey coming on next week, and Doug Casey writes a newsletter.

And he literally just, he literally, one of the reasons I wanted to bring him on was because in his newsletter, he talks about, you know, like people want to, you know, sit on a thousand shells or, you know, a thousand gold bars or, you know, take a thousand. He's like, if you don't know what you're doing, it doesn't mean squat. You need to invest in knowledge. Yes. So that you can, you can understand what to do when the problem will. rises. Then of course, do you need the physical asset and different things? Yes, but you need the right mindset. You need the knowledge. You need to go acquire these things and you need to do it now, not, not 10 years from now. Yeah. Like yesterday type mentality. And yeah, I just couldn't agree more

with what you're talking about. Yeah. And that, yeah, there's one good thing. So, you know, we have, we have communication with Curtis. We've talked to him a couple times. You know, he was on this early on. He had like the urban farmer, release land. And now he's off grid with Curtis Stone. But one of the things he sent in his podcast there, which is great, is, uh, he said, Canada is a high speed train going off a cliff. He's like, you need to get off that train. And so when we do our full, we have like a full four hour community intelligence

briefing that we do. We've, I think we briefed over a thousand people in Ontario alone. And so when I came here, I did. There was a nice little cafe called Angels Cafe where I said, okay, well, they'll give me an hour to speak. So I went out there and spoke. And they were great, good, good crowd. And I said, they were like, oh, that was great what you said and everything. I was like, well, you just got, like, I didn't even have the PowerPoint presence.

I didn't even have the PowerPoint presentation, but the videos and everything else. You just got one hour. And then there's now, like a couple other people heard about it. So I'm being one in Red Deer, one in Turner Valley or something, a little bit south of Calgary there. But now with some of the people there and they saw it, they're like, you. you need to come. And again, this is, I'm just one presenter. We have other guys who can do it as well.

But they're like, you need to come to do an Alberta tour or do like a big event. So how long are you here for? I'm here till the 18th. I'm going to see our brother, Dallas. He's performing on the 17th there. So he's down. I forget where it is on my phone. So we're going to go see him and spend some time and chat with him.

He's, have you had him on your? Alexander, yeah. He was, I was somewhere and he was somewhere because we were both, I think he was on Holland. He was gracious enough to give me an interview while he was sitting in like Mexico or something with his family. Yeah, yeah. Very interesting story once again.

Yeah. Well, yeah, over the mandates. He's, um, not sure, I can't really say that. But yeah, so he, him and I obviously, we talk and, but he's friends with some close friends of mine. But yeah, good dude. Guy stood up willing to speak out. Again, not afraid, uh, but solid, uh, solid guy.

Heck of a musician. Oh, yeah. No, he's okay. He's, uh, I, I love the adios. I don't like country music. And I like adios amigo. That was great. I have it on my playlist there.

But it's like when I was coming out here. So he is, he is good. Yeah, he's good. But I was coming out here there. I got picked up by, uh, lady Heather, uh, who introduced us from, um, Canians for truth. Prozac. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So she came out when I was talking to her. She's like, well, we can get. this and like country you can get you like a cowboy hat because i i get one of the main reasons i came out here was do the series of interviews uh with canyans for truth and and do a bunch of these podcasts maybe she was gracious enough to pick me up at the airport and you're telling me and i was like look i'm from like the hood in scarborough all right we don't listen to country music

i was like you know we torture jihadis with country music like that's that's what i think of it and then she was just dying laughing i was like no i can't i can't do it like So I go in there to support Dallas, obviously, but I'm like a hip hop, old school hip hop slash electronic music type guy or like reggae or whatever. That's the area I grew up in. So it's funny because when I come down here, I make these jokes to people about country music. They're like so offended. I was like, oh, that's awful. No, but teach their own.

I'm just kidding. Teach their own. Well, I appreciate this. You know, this has been, you know, like, I. I always look forward to getting in the studio, getting to sit across from somebody that I don't know that well to get to know what they think. And I've really enjoyed this. I appreciate you making the journey to the West.

It'll be interested to see what, you know, the, how many parts did you do with Canadians for Truth? I think I did three or four. I think based on those, I think they want to do a couple more with me. But there's discussions here about potentially. doing a much bigger event where we can get 1,500 or 2,000 people. Because I have a farm. I got a response before I got dogs and that sort of thing.

So I can't spend my time traveling around. But I've talked to, it was good to get out here because I talked to a bunch of our members. I've talked to like prominent podcasters in the community. And so there might be discussion here in the next couple months to get a couple of our guys out from Ontario and New Brunswick area to do like a larger event with a couple thousand people. and then have a series of us do a bunch of presentations there to cover this stuff. Because whatever the, not saying we're perfect or whatever, but the feedback we get from people when we do the briefings is they're like, that's exactly what we needed to hear. Because you're, we try to approach things like solution-based approach to our problems.

We give some guidance, right? And that's how we do. So a lot of people are really happy with, with some of the stuff that we're putting out. Well, I tell you what, on this side of things, we try to do a mill. military roundtable once a month. And maybe what we should try and line up is a military roundtable with veterans for freedom. Get three of you on, you and Tom, or maybe you have some different guys, you know, that you think of that would be good to talk about Canada today and try and focus on some things.

Yep. I tried it with, we've been doing blue collar roundtables, which have been a ton of fun. Yep. And I did a virtual one and I thought, oh, man, I don't know how this is going to go. and had Quick Dick McDick, McDick, comedian from Saskatchewan, the crackpot farmer here from Saskatchewan, Alberta border, and then Chase Barber from Edison Movers in BC. And it was fantastic.

And actually what came out of that was the corruption of the NDP and what is it, MNP, the group that Chase Barbers, Edison Motors, was trying to get green funding. I don't know if you've heard any of this. And basically them saying, you know, they hold the money, so who's going to get the money and told them that, you know, if you use us, you'll get the money. But if you don't use this, there's an awful chance that you won't get the money, right? It's just like, and then the NDP got told all this and walked out of, walked out and said,

we're not touching this. And so you can just see the level of corruption in the entire thing. And that came out of the blue collar round table. And at the time, I was like, this is freaking wild. And now it's starting to explode. I'm like, holy crap. Like, you give the blue collar a voice and things just start to fly. on the same thing with military men.

Yeah, so that's something we definitely be open to. There's our friend Mike who does Freedom Honey. He's in Alberta. I'll be meeting him for the first time on Saturday break we get together in Edmonton. But that's what he used to do. He used to get Chuck on there. He did Twitter space, quarterly veterans coffee

and got a bunch of the prominent vets. It's funny because we go against the Bolshevets there and they attack us all the time. And these are like the left wing woke veterans. But you look at, we have a list of like 200, 250, like of the, like, we're just normal people. How about that? Normal people, normal vets or followers, you know, like Chuck and Rex Glacier and Lee Humphor, all these guys. It's like seven or 800,000 followers combined between all these different normal, normal vets.

And then you go to like the woke guys there. It's like one guy, like Rex Glacer has more followers than all of them combined. Right. And they think that the majority of vets are lefty liberals. Like, no, you're completely wrong. Like the majority of them are conservative guys. Or like center or center right guys. So, but yeah, we, we're, we have lots of guys. We have lots of guys who are willing to talk about things. We're going to, we're going to start to have, you know, more influence out here in Alberta. We hope with our get-togethers and get people signed up and people check out our website. and we're actually making a couple changes because people like, oh, they keep trying to join

V for F. We just didn't know we're going to get into the thousands of members. But not everyone's like cut out for, you know, being in the trenches of the ideological battle space and the culture war. So we're making some changes to our membership and, you know, people don't want to be involved with that. It's completely fine, right?

Because you get, but you get guys like me, the guys like Jeff, even Tom Quiggin, like so many of our members there. And we understand what's at stake here and we're willing to put in the time and volunteer and put in the effort to push back. But yeah, it's not, it's not for everyone. We're not politically correct.

We're not going to be celebrating, you know, black history month or, you know, World Indigenous Day and pink. It's like we don't play the identity stuff, right? We're all just vets. We're all concerned about the direction our country's going. We just don't play into the identity politics at all. So organizations growing. We're happy, but we are making some changes.

there in terms of, you know, just making sure we have the right people, because we've got to focus on the quality over the quantity. Well, I appreciate you making the drive and doing this. It's been great to finally meet you in person. And I don't, I could be wrong. We'll see what the audience says, but I'm going to assume they're going to side with me on saying that at some point we'll have you back on. And hopefully in a military roundtable platform, that would be a ton of fun.

Because, you know, if I know in the background that you knew, I'm like, we've got to find a way to get Chuck down here. Just check if Chuck had known, sure Chuck would be sitting right there. Chuck's probably yelling at the radio. You're darn right. So that'd be a ton of fun. So one way or another,

we'll find a way to maybe pull off a military roundtable where you boys can, well, I don't know, whether it gets to know each other or sit in a forum like setting. Yeah, we'll chuck at each other because I think I'm meeting Chuck tomorrow. I think he's coming to our get together, but it's too much army stuff, okay?

and everyone makes fun of the Navy, but then you never give us an opportunity. I would never give us a seat at the table. So I'm actually a pretty seasoned, salty naval. I tell you what, we'll give the salty boys a seat at the table and let them have some fun. Well, I'm going to give you one thing.

A couple things before we go. So, you know, with the way the Legion treated James Top, right, when he was marching across the country, we were obviously a big support unit for James Top. But the guys over at Blackbird Industries, they came up in an alternative to the podcast. Poppy, not specifically because of what happened to James Top, but a lot of our era of veterans doesn't have, we don't have a relationship with the Legion.

And, you know, one of our guys, Alex, shout to Alex from V4F, Quebec there. He said, you know, the new Legion is bonfires and bike leather. And so the guys came up with something called the Afghan Memorial Flower. You can check it out on V4F.ca. We sell everything and then the guys at Blackbird Industries as well. So that is a sticker of it, I guess. Oh, the camera's off again, whichever one it is, but there's... I'll take a picture of it.

So it's a sticker. So I can tell us up on the wall. Yeah, so I was a sticker, and there's a V4F1, and then we have our challenge coin. So I don't know if how you know challenge coin the way it is. So thank you very much for having us. That's our challenge going. If it's all right with you, I'll put it up beside. That was the one that Jamie Sinclair brought me, the last roundtable.

It was me, him, Chuck, and... Oh, wow. And Willie, I think. Willie, I think, was on the last one. And if it's all right with you, I'll put it right beside it. Yeah, for sure. No, that's awesome. Yeah, a lot of guys collect these things.

So, yeah, that's beautiful. Well, and I just, I think anytime I have a military guys in, you know, the other is the, what is it, Princess Patricia's flag? Oh, it's army stuff. Yeah. I don't know. You show me. I was like, I don't know. I know Navy stuff, not Army.

But it's cool because I'm not military, right? I really appreciate the military men giving me the opportunity to sit across from them and do this, right? Because I have a lot of respect for people who go overseas or who just protect us in general. Yeah, I think it's like, it's to give a different perspective on something, right? Like everyone's got their place. You got any of the doctors and the lawyers and the businessmen and the political strategies. Everyone's got a different place. So there's a lot of us specialize in warfare.

And we are, unfortunately, at war. And that's sort of where we try to come in is like educated from the warfare perspective of what's happening and just try to educate and empower Canadian citizens, right? Like they attack us and call us, you know, oh, your white supremacists is like,

just regular dude, right? Just concerned about direction the country's going. That's it. It's pretty simple. And a lot of us are, and that's why our organization's so large and getting bigger, but we're just group peaceful,

patriotic guys who are concerned and just not going to allow our government demonize a large portion of our population. That's what it is. That's what it boils down to. So we'll continue to fight back and fight the good fight. We know we're on the right side of history,

and that's all we can really do. Well, I appreciate this. Thank you very much for bringing that, and I'll show that with pride. Put it up on the backdrop here. You know what? We should actually give you a... I'm going to talk,

I'm going to take a mental note here. We'll get Aaron. Aaron, if you're watching this, which I know you will, we need to get Sean a... a holder, the challenge coin holder. So he'll make you one and then we'll get us sent out to you. Yeah, that'd be cool.

Yeah. And then we'll put it up here in the studio because it can go right up there with all the other things that mean a lot in life. So right beside the Bud Light Memorial employee of the month from the Tuesday mashup. Nice. Awesome. Thanks again, Drew, for coming in. Yeah, no worries.

Thanks for having me.