Shaun Newman Podcast - #624 - Brother's Roundtable

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

Harly, Jay, and Dustin hop on my three older brothers. We discuss the NHL playoffs at length: Oilers game 1, Boston running tandem goalies, Vegas healthy and some banter. SNP Presents returns April 27th Tickets Below:https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone/ Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

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We're far from the experts. It's the big man, the bird man, the engineer, and the golden child. Yep, it's another Brothers Roundtable. So buckle up. Here we go. All right, welcome to the Brothers Roundtable first playoff edition. We're back. joined by Dust

Jay Harley boys welcome back to the studio good to be back yeah glad to be here um okay so let's start here shall we we had uh we've been uh we've been talking about giving away a little bit of silver anytime anyone comes in the studio one ounce silver coin we the brothers decided uh you know instead just walking in and hand on silver we'd have a little bit of fun with

a little bit of betting it would allow Sean back in the old bet I thought oh that doesn't sound so bad so what we did was we bet on the uh round one game ones and see who could get the most right. Finishing a dead last, Dustin, three of eight. Finishing second last, Jay, four of eight. No, I finished third. Okay, it's not second last as third. I was in the top three.

Sure, sure. And then tied for first, Sean and Harley five for eight. Five for eight. Sean with the tie break last night. And the win goes to Sean. this. The first piece of one out of silver. What was the tie break? So everybody knows.

Oh, so we both picked the Emmonsonlers to win. Shocker. And we picked the scores it was going to be. We texted Jay separately. I picked 4-2. You picked 4-1. So it came down to how many L.A. scored. And because Sean picked a two and Harley picked a one.

And it was higher than two, Sean was closer. Correct. And because the Oilers booted the puck in the third period. Yeah. Like crazy. Come on. Two kicked in your own net. Plus a broken stick.

And a broken stick. You know what, to be fair, though, Harles, they did already disallow one. They left you in the game for a little bit. I know I was texting Sean there. Either way, let's start with the Emmington owners. I mean, first off, I'll take the win. I might just get a stack going in front of me, just so, you know, every week you boys come in. Probably the one you're going to get, but it might be true.

Maybe true. I didn't do so. Maybe we didn't feel, we felt a little sorry for you and make sure the youngest brother had once. They didn't start crying. The stack might be a little bit like Sean, a little short. shots fired well here I kept the document from last year last year Harley led the way 10 of 14 I know I brought this up last time dust 7 of 14 Sean 6 of 14 and J 5 of 14 now that was so I was dead last

as a picking series is that what that was yeah that's picket series yeah 514 that's not even and yet and yet a monkey to throw a dart and yet I won the Don's Cup yeah did we did we pick winners for around one last time When we were on? I assume we did. I'm sure how many rounds is there? Eight, 12, 14, 15. Yeah.

Yeah. So yes. The answer is yes. Okay. It doesn't matter. We went, we went. This was opening game, not opening round. No, I know.

I know. We do have the, uh, the NHL bracket challenge, uh, going on. So that'll be interesting. I think we get about 40 some people involved in that. So we'll see how that goes. Vance Crow has been beacon me the entire time. Vance Crow wins the hockey bracket challenge. Yeah, we can all just call it today.

Shut her down. Yeah, shut it down. You want to talk about a monkey throwing darts. Hey, Vance Crowe. Hey, the legend himself Crawford did win it once. So, I mean, anything can happen. Okay. Okay.

Amminton Oilers, game one. You know, the thing about us doing this and then releasing it the next day, when it's to deal with the games that happened, just the Emmetton Oilers and a couple others, you know, Carolina. New York Islanders, Boston, Toronto, etc. You get the point. It's very relevant, Dallas Vegas. The other four are both to play tonight,

so, you know, we got to pick and choose how we do this. But the Amitoners, that's where we're going to... We could just pick tonight and then we'd know for next. We could just pick the... See if we... No, no, no. We already have a bet for next week. Okay.

We're starting with the Emmettininals. We'll get to the next week's bet. Okay. Just stop changing it. It was the Connor McDavid show last night. From where I was sitting, it looked like, you know, You know, where I was sitting, it looked like the Zach Hyman show. Zach Hyman sat there and McDavid fed him the puck.

No, McDavid played well, but you still need a guy to put it in the net. And Hyman put the first one in the net and got the team rolling. On a great pass by McDavid. And the second one, McDavid made an unreal play to put a Hyman stick. And the third one, Hyman literally, like, used his whole body and stick in front of the quarter of the net. I'm going to go backwards on your plate. David tipped it in. Dost, I'm going to go backwards on you.

The first two goals were critical in that game. And the first one, Hyman on a second effort. Yes. Because McDavid's pass didn't actually get to him clean. It's true. Put it in the net. Yes.

And then the second goal, it was Hyman's taking a second, hitting Henrique, who put the puck in the net. They made it two nothing. McDavid, nowhere to be found on the play. So I'm just saying the first two goals from where me and Harley were sitting in the building. in the building. We felt like the first two goals were critical in that game. Then once the game got rolling, McDavid settled in,

and he just started to really roll around. That first line looked nice, though. They did. 100% unreal. You know, if someone had them in a hockey draft, all three of them, they'd be in good shape. Did you have good sheep? Did you have all three of them?

All three of them. Oh, wow. Dust it must have missed the interview of Zach Hyman before that game started. Did you see that? No, before? Yeah, hey. They did a little piece on him scoring 50 goals.

And he just asked, well, what do you have to say to the people to say you only got 50? Because you play with Connor McDavid. And then that's Dustin right there, right? No. Wait, Jack, I love that. I can score 50. Well, one, one, one. Not at all.

I love Zach Hyman. But he's playing with the greatest player in the world. You just said by the confidence. You can't follow that with the butt because you actually don't love them. It's like Yuri Kure and Gretzky. It's the same thing. Like Curry was a great player. Holy playing player.

Was he better with Grexki? Absolutely. Yeah. But Curry did what? a cup without Grexie. So what's your point? Curry, Curry was the stick that stirred the drink? Is that what you're saying? Maybe Curry was. Maybe Curry a mess for this, where, where the stir sticks. Grexky would only had like, what, 2,500 points. Everybody makes everybody better.

McDavid was saying after last night's game that a skill is getting lost and being able to actually put the puck in the net when you get the puck. Like, how many, how many guys is McDavid played with up until this point? And they don't all have 50. That's a true story. I tell you what, Zach Hyman's a very smart player because he's like that play he does at the corner of the post. Yeah, where he makes himself about three feet wide. What does Zach Hyman say when he was asked that question? He never did finish with the answer.

Oh, he basically laughed and said he, then they went into his story and how he's been basically written off his entire way. And he said, honestly, if that's what you think, I'm just going to laugh at you and carry on with my day, right? Because not everybody's scoring 50. That play at the corner of the net. Not everybody has with McDavid. No.

Him stay at the corner of the net is really... Well, who would be the other guy? It would be dry saddle? Yeah. Drysettle. Yeah. Right? So dry saddle has got 50?

So him making himself big at the corner of the net. There was a really smart play. And you go, it's a dumb goal. Well, no, he's scoring and that's all that matters. And he makes himself big at the corner of the goal. No, no, that's what I mean. It's not like a snap shot. No, no, no goal at noon hour.

No, I realized that. I actually did that to Jervais the one practice. One game I banked it off his shin pads at the corner of the net. but it's a smart play and he obviously thought about himself so I'm like I'm not knocking why is it why don't more people do that do you see more NHELers why don't why don't more people stand in front of the net and take a beating and but he doesn't stand in front of the net no no no no but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is though Ryan Smith made a living out of standing in front of the neck taking shots off his face

and everything else right who is the is that homstrom Holmesstrom's in front of the net too you know but they but not to the side of the net where he's kind of like You know, I'm going to eat this off of my entire body. It's going to hurt a little bit, but I'm in score 50. You know what the guy is most impressive with last night? And not because he was the best part of the ice. But Corey Perry was impressive to me. His ability, he pocket-picked a couple guys during the game.

He just, you know, it's old Corey Perry standing over the boards. A guy skating by and boop. Then the puck's off the guy stick. He's a sneaky little rat, isn't he? But he's not that little. But he is so smart and so talented. When he goes down the boards and he's taking, bangs, but he's right against the board, so he just bounces off and he's got the buck and

he's moving it and things are happening when he's on the ice. Like he's, he's a good hockey player. We were talking about goals. Nugent Hopkins almost did a Hyman like goal on that power play where he just kind of stood at the edge of the edge of the crease and and just held himself there. And Drysad will put it right on his tape. Well, what do they always say? When you're playing with the best players, then you start to learn things. Yeah, right? I noticed Dustin always scores on the short side move now that he learned from his older brother. I don't score that often. The one thing that's not your go-to move now.

The one thing with the Euler game last night, your best player has got to be your best players. And last night they were the best players. That first game, Toronto, Boston, Toronto's best players were nowhere to be found. Like, your best players have to be your best players. So I was going to bring this up before and decide to wait for the podcast. But the problem L.A. has. It was close the last two years. But what's happened with the Oilers over the last two years is their team is better.

It's visibly better. Atcombe's in the lineup. Two years ago, he wasn't when they went to seven. Last year he was, they went to six. But you look at their third line where they got Perry and Kane playing on their third line. Like, that is a good third line. Their top two lines are dynamite. Their goalie's better than he was.

Two years ago was Mike Smith. Last year, it was a younger Stuart Skinner. Like their team is just better and more complete. Who's different on the Oilers defense from a year ago? Anybody? No, exact same. It's exactly same. They got to Stetcher as the seventh.

As the seventh. Because you go, although Skinner is a year older, what they exposed last year year was the wrap around and making him move side to side, which if you watch teams still to this day, he's not great at that. But you didn't see a whole lot of that. When you, when you're... Well, last year, last year, Daroni looked like he, you... as a rookie, right?

Right. So he's got a year on him, a little more experience. And he actually is a... He looked good last night. Well, you just go, like, when you have a big goalie who, if you keep it to perimeter shots, and sure, Skinner made some nice saves last night. You know, I was talking to you about the Arbenson save on the breakaway. But overall, last year, it seemed like L.A. was beating everybody outside and doing that

quick wrap around. And that, like, threw Skinner for an absolute loop. That's why Campbell got in. is because he couldn't move side to side. And I don't think that's changed that much. Vegas did it even more than L.A. last year. Well, that's because L.A. exposed it. You're like, what is happening here?

Why does he keep not seeing what they're doing? And last night for game one, they eliminated that. I mean, look, it was a, what, a five, five two game? Six two game. And then they got the one off of nurse's foot and a broken stick where he shouldn't scramble and threw it right to him. He should have just threw it in the corner and been done with it. but I understand what he was trying to do.

And they score two to make it a close game, right? The other thing I noticed about the Oilers last night that I really, really like is if you look at their four lines, they got someone that is incredibly fast on all four of those lines. Because you've got David on the first line. You've got Fogel on the second line. You've got McLeod. McLeod on the third line. And on the fourth line, you got Dillon Holloway.

And all four of those guys are amazingly fast. And you got one on each line, which poses a real problem for the other team, Because how do you, like, you got blazing speed and then you got some goal scoring talent on each of the lines as well. And so it's a tough matchup when you got someone that fast because McLeod can come back so fast. He four checks really hard. It's tough to deal that. Dylan Holloway was great last night. He didn't do anything fancy.

He just skated hard and put pressure on them all over the ice. And as a team trying to do something with the puck, if you have someone that comes at you that fast, it's tough to do something with the puck that's productive. One thing that doesn't really get talked about, or I haven't heard got talked about last night's game is actually coaching. And I don't know how many times Jay and I'd be looking down and you'd have like Perry and Kane out there with McLeod. And then all of a sudden Perry and McLeod go off, Holloway and Yanmark or something come on. And Perry's still out there. And then what just happened, right? They change things and then all of a sudden they go off and then next thing you know,

Keynes back out there and then you got McDavid with his line and then all of a sudden next thing you know they're switching out and dry sidles out there and just trying to change the matchups, I think, a little bit with L.A. was very stagnant on their lines, right? And so that was one of the... Meaning what you're saying is L.A. wants to get this line out against McDavid, this line out against dry sidel. Right. And now all of a sudden... And using the home advantage, they're constantly messing with that. That's right. Instead of matching the line.

If you're LA, how do you match your line against a line that is constantly moving, right? It's always in flux. And so, yeah, for the most part, there was guys that were lines out there, but they were constantly rearranging and mixing. Probably goes to the depth again of Eminton, right? Being able to add to trust some people out on the ice. I thought the biggest difference between last two series and this one, I mean, the depth's there, right? going with what the coaching is, the others in their own zone

didn't never panic. So they weren't ringing the puck. They weren't panic shooting it out. There was so many times where they were waiting for the guy to get to him, taking the hit and just doing a little flip play over their defense or up to the centerman or just a little five foot pass to the wire.

So is that Paul coffee? That's Paul coffee. Isn't that wild? I don't know what everybody else's thoughts when they hired Paul coffee. I was like, oh, why? Combination, Chris Knobloch and Paul Coffey. But Knoblock and Paul Coffey coming in, I thought this is going to be a tire fire.

And it has been their whole diesel's settled right down. And how many times they get the puck out, you know, even the Wingers, Corey Perry got it on the sideboards a couple of times, not panicking, not just turning around and firing it off the boards. Turn around. Oh, so, oh, delay. Oh, actually put it back, delay up and away they went. So here's the other thing about that is because they have the depth, they have the personnel where they don't panic either. Because the defense is the exact same. No, no, no, I realize that.

But if you look at the forwards and you have forwards who can't do anything with the puck or miss it or, you know, they miss the puck, the other team regroups comes back in and is always putting pressure on you. Eventually, your defensemen are just like slamming it out because they're tired and overworked, essentially. Whereas now they've got such good depth across their lineup that, you know, you make the nice pass. The Ford actually does something with it.

So you're not, you're not regrouping and coming back in. And you actually are pushing the point. puck up of the ice all the time. I agree about the depth. I disagree with you on that's why it's happening. I think it is an absolute coaching thing. Well, no, I don't, I think I don't disagree. It's coaching as well, but he's went to the personnel to go with it, you know, is all I'm saying. You do, but, but, but the sixth defense were the exact same. Yes. The three centermen in the exact same. There's a lot that's still the same on that team. Yes, they brought in Corey Perry and they brought in Carrick and, you know, some of that might be experienced and add experience with a beauty. I don't think it's

experience Harrells. I think that's coaching. I think that's coaching. I think that is, I think there's so many coaches out there where it's, everything is fast. And we're, we're, we're count. So in their mind, fast is fast. Where sometimes fast is control. All I was getting at, if you're with a young team, it's hard to, uh, have that mindset. Sure. To slow down.

And the others are the old, I don't know if anybody knows this, but they're the oldest team in the NHL playoffs, right? So now you went and we were talking about it at the start of the game yesterday, right? A few years ago, they were one of the youngest teams and now all of a sudden they're the oldest, right? So there's been a change there as well. So a little bit older and a little bit more calmness. I just think, I just think that year over year. Henry and Echome and New Jersey.

You just think of Tampa Bay or something, right? Like their boss. I just think year over year though, if you're asking the biggest difference I've seen, that's the biggest difference. Sure. Yeah. It was impressive. And that's why LA felt like they were never in the game. But I mean, we've seen it since since they hired the new coach.

coaches, right? Yeah. Like, I thought it was going to be a tire fire. I'm pretty sure I argue, I was just like, why, why? Why?

And it has been, oh, it's been evident. Like, you watch them, they're a more calm team. So whatever, whatever coffee's whispering to them

on the back end is working. Nurse played a great game. Desirene played a really solid game. Like there, there's nothing, nobody's getting beat. There's, there's no odd man.

Rushes. Nothing fancy. It's just, they're not panicking. Could you imagine going out there and even on the penalty kill, you've got their nail on one side and Ekholm on the other. Like, good luck trying to have any kind of room inside in front of the net. And the other one, C.C. and Nurse. Right.

C.C. and nurse. Well, their defense, although is not the same, but like you look at Vancouver when they played Nashville game on, man, they got a big heavy defense trying to get around Myers and Zatter. Zatterkole, Zaderoff, right? Like, they are big, like, Oilers have added in that overtime, which makes them hard to play against. You know, you go back a couple years. I love Duncan Keith, but by the end, he just wasn't a tough guy to play against anymore, and that happens to all of us.

And you didn't have, you know, at home or day or nay or, you know, on and on it went. They've just, they've gotten a year older and added in coaching that's really, really benefit. I think all can be right. Yeah. Is anybody afraid of Cam Talbot? No. No. Like they're gonna light him up for five of a game, I feel like. Actually, while Brown last night on the road home. Yeah. He thinks they should start rich tonight or tomorrow. Yeah, start there. That's where you think. Because he said, what's his nickname? Uh, super, Super, uh, Super Dave? Super Dave. Super Dave or Big Save Dave? Big Save Dave. That's right. And he says, I'd give Big Save Dave a shot. Oh, I mean, he was a starting goaltender in Calgary.

point, right? You know, it's funny on the broadcaster. We're talking about how L.A. worked so hard on their penalty kill to make it one of the best in the league. And then they got Torch last night. Yeah, but I mean, look at where Dry Saitil scores that one goal from. That's ridiculous.

You cannot, like, you can't, you can't, like, I can't even spit it out because it was so ridiculous where he scored that from. Like if I, I grew up, I played P.K. All my life until I play him home and played senior. Even then I love it. You got a little P.P. That's right.

But the PK, we specialize in it. Like, we push. You don't cover that guy. That's the shot you want to take. That's the most ridiculous shot ever. And he hit it. When you see where Talbot is, Talbot's like, how the hell did that go in?

Like that is, I don't even know how big of a spot that is. He's like a foot off the goal line and he's sitting under the bar. In the corner. Yeah. Right. Nobody can stop him there. Like when McDavid pass in the puck, you're expecting him to stop it and look for the other And not only that, he's not getting, the other thing, too, that's really unbelievable about that shot is he's not getting a pass from cross ice.

So if it comes cross ice to you, you're like, that's an easier one timer. He's getting it from the top straight down and angling. Like, you know what, next noon hour during warm up, we'll go try that out. And we'll see how many guys can get a pass from Sean from the blue line and put it under the bar when you're foot off the goal. I probably won't even hit the net. Like, I probably wouldn't hit the mesh on the back of the net. We're going to try that. Yeah, yeah. Next time, and the next time we come back on, do what, and remember, and remember, an earlier power play, he took that puck and fitted across the cruise to Nuge for the tap-in.

Right. Like, that's what, so that's one play there where he shoots at top shelf and he can do it or passed across back door to Nuge. But then that is, doesn't take in account Bouchard, Hyman or McDavid, who all have their own plays. Like, it's, it's an amazing group of people called Hyman. That was. That was one of the things, though, that, uh, that's, what had happened in noon hour hockey, right? Somebody's eating that in the teeth, you know?

McDavid was talking about that after the game, though, that they literally worked on a number of different plays to go against LA's penalty kill. So Eminton has a bunch of different looks, and they said they still have some wild cards up their sleeve that they haven't. Well, I'll say this, the greatest PP of all time, right, last season, that they had the highest percentage number.

When you watch them play the thing, although they irritate me because I wish they'd shoot the puck just a smidge more. And then I laugh at myself because you got the greatest power play of all time. They do things I've never seen any power play do before. They throw pucks to places where I'm like, why are you? And then bang, it's in the net. And if you're a PK, L.A's PK can be phenomenal, but you can't defend that play. You can defend certain plays, but not one where he passes it into the corner and he

one times it a foot off the goal line top shelf. So this is what is amazing about the Oilers power plays. They've got such good skill that work together. that the power play changes over time. So you've got, oh, we know this set play will cover it. And then they change it and they do some, you know, they use your own movement against you to score. And that's what makes it so great.

It's not some static power play where you're hitting a vetchkin on the dock. And that's your, and that's your move. They've got, they've got brilliant players between McDavid. Like you look at all five of them who, who can play with each other and move with each other to open up stuff and all score. And it's like, when you don't have the one weapon,

you have five weapons, although it'll be it, it runs through McDavid or Drysadel. Still, you've got five weapons that can score. It runs a lot through Bush, though, at the top, too. He disturbs the puck a lot. The other thing that I felt like sitting there live versus on the TV, you're really got an appreciation for McDavid carrying that puck in on the power play because, and I know me and you, me and Dust have talked about this, is he doesn't do the same thing twice.

So he'll get the, you know, he gets the speed, they drop it to him, he comes in and the first time he comes in, he's going as hard as he can. Right. And so then he hits that blue line. He tries to beat the guy and he actually didn't. And down it goes. And then they run back. Next time he gets it, he comes a little slower. But they think he's coming fast. And then all of a sudden he can pick up. Now he is going fast. And then he thinks he's going to beat him. No. And then he curls around and they set up and they do their thing, right? And then the next thing he comes, he comes slower. And everybody's like, no, don't go at him because he's just going to curl and don't go at him and reminds me the Bobby or Don Cherry thing. and next thing he goes through the guy and Talbot made a nice save on him with the pad because he got right in there for a shot

and when you have a guy that's taken that puck in on the power play for you every time to the neutral zone and that has that ability, that is... Well, I feel like this should go without saying but when he was, when they left him out for those couple games, the power play looked like a shell of itself. Now in fairness, that makes complete sense because you're taking the best player on the planet off of it.

Let's move on to, shall we move on to Vegas? I'm like, I'm sure there's Calgary Flans. Oilers can't get enough of it because we win game one. I'm sure Tews isn't listening to us talking about the Oilers anyway. Tews did say, let me in there. I did get to Nick from Silvergold Bull. He's a giant Calgary Flames fan. He said, when the Oilers lose, which they aren't, but let's say they do,

he's going to be banging on the door to get into the next one. You know what I love, though, just for you Flames guys, grabber, twos, all them guys, is the flames are such a tire fire. and when you have a team that is such a tire fire like that, they find little positives. Oh, but look at our young guys. You know what? Buffalo's been looking at their young guys for 10 years.

Like, Calgary is going to be terrible forever right now. You know, but they're so positive, and they might have a shot next. And look at Popsizzle and look at Zerry and we're coming. And you're nowhere. You're a tire fire. Shut the fuck up. Did anybody know us Noah Hannafin?

He looked pretty good out there last night, eh? All sitting with different team. Yeah. That's funny how that is. Yeah. Vegas. We all picked Dallas to be. them game one. Vegas shows up. You go, where did this team come from? Oh, wait, half of them

weren't playing. What did you think Vegas is game one? Dallas is game one. That's going to be a fun series. In general. Those are two really good teams. And you love Dallas, but the old saying comes back to Vegas is the champs until you beat them. And you got to beat now Dallas got to beat them four to the next six games. Like that is not, like they're the champs, boys. They're it. And they went to reloaded up and they're the champs. And you can love the oil. and we love Dallas and Colorado and all the fun names and Vegas is the champs. And they got everybody back. That's a tough team.

I think with the 1131 hats going on the ice, I was sitting there trying to also pay attention a little bit to the end of that Dallas game at the same time. And it looked like fast-paced and it looked like a fun game, right? Actually, there's a bunch of great first round series because they're really fun. That Winnipeg, Colorado game, That was wild. I was watching some of that.

And it was, well, goals galore and back and forth. Like, that was a fun series for sure. You got Vancouver coming back from 2-1 and the third. They kind of screwed me on my weekly challenge, but Islanders up being up three-nothing and then losing five-three with them scoring two goals.

Patty, Patty, and the law must have been livid. Two goals in nine seconds. The funny thing about that game, though, is in the first 10 minutes of that game, New York was getting out shot like 9-0 or something.

They didn't have a sniff and then I turned it to the, a different game. And I've turned it back and I'm like, it's three nothing for the Islanders. They didn't even have a shot for the first 10 minutes. So how about this? After they were up three nothing, the Islanders got outshot 28 to 3 at the rest of the game. Yes. 283.

Carolina, I don't know if you guys know this. And I'm sure Jason, you know, he's already pumped his own tires over there waiting to get in. But Carolina is a really good team. Somebody took Carolina in the draft this year. That's all I'm going to say. Who did you, you know, Vance Crow took New York Rangers to defeat the Emmington O. in the Stanley Cup final in his playoff bracket. Harles took the Oilers to beat the Rangers.

Yeah. I can't remember. I believe I have Emmington, Dallas, and Carolina and Florida as my final four. I can't remember how I ended it. I think Emmetton beat Carolina, but I could be 100%. I got Emmonson over Florida. I got Emmington over Carolina. Now, everyone's going to be a bunch of homers, and it's like, well, what do you expect?

We have arguably the best Oilers team since Grexie, Messier, I guess. We are a bunch of homers. Like all four were to come up with us. Like nobody else exists. If you tuned into this to hear a balance take and everything we hate about. This is the best Oilers team since Graski left, I think. No, but since Messia. I know, I know, they won the cup.

They won the cup. You can't argue that. Sure. Well, it was pretty, it's a good team, you know. Well, the last cup in there. The Oilers haven't made the finals since 2006. So are we saying they're better than that 2016? Yes.

Because they haven't made the finals yet. They didn't win the cup that year. But they made the cup final, went to seven. And if someone wanted to ran over Oli the goalie, what if at all you want? No, no, no. Sure. Until they win, until they win, it's the best Oilers team since 2006.

Can we all agree with that? Sure. Right? We actually have a shot this year. My wife laughs at me every time. Oh, boy. Boston Bruins, tandem goalies. Now, in fairness, minus Allmark, 40 games played this year, 22, 10, and 7.

with the goals against, 2.58, save percent of 915, not too shabby. Swamen, 44 games played, 25, 10, and 8, 2.53, and 916. So almost identical numbers, and they did split. Does it surprise you you win game one with Swamen and they go, or is that just, and then they go Allmark? Or is it just a culture? And did it matter last night? It wasn't like Allmerc played this horrific game, right? Tell me one team that has won the playoffs, splitting goal tenors.

I don't know. There's not one. I want to think that Detroit had one year where they won the cup. And I don't know if they were splitting goaltenders on purpose, but it feels like they had one guy and an Osgood came in. Okay. So we're talking one team? And I want to say that Vegas used quite a few goalies last year. They did, but that wasn't because they were going back and forth as injuries.

And then Aiden Hill came in and that was it. He came in against Demetton. Okay. So this actually reminds me last year in Toronto Blue Jays playoffs when Berrios was, yeah, he was pitching a gem of a game into what the fourth or the third or something. Right. He was absolutely on fire. And then the coach is like, the manager was like, yeah, but the analytics say,

and I'm an analytics guy, but analytics say at this point, we switch out and go to a different guy. You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, if your goalie's playing well, if your pitcher is pitching extremely well, just let him go see where it goes. It's one game. It's not a whole season. If your guy's doing well, you just stick with them. The only thing that I've heard is if you're going to split your goal,

Okay, so you play your first two games at home and it's the same, same goaltender. And then game three, you're going to go to the other one. Well, now that goaltender hasn't really had any playing time for like eight days, right? And so by going back and forth, at least you're getting each of your goaltenders into it and then maybe you're running with one. But like, I see, I like that. I don't like that. I'm more of the mindset until you lose, you don't change. So forwards I disagree with you on.

Not with the Oilers, I think I'd leave it mostly the same. But with goaltenders, the whole year, what I go... Did the Oilers lose last night? No, what I'm saying is... But Dost is changing the lineup. What I'm saying is with goaltenders in the regular season, I totally agree with you. You split the time between the goalies

because you might need the backup in the playoffs. And I agreed with what they did with Pickard all season long. He didn't play as much as Stuart Skinner, but he played enough so that if Stewart Skinner gets hurt in the playoffs, you go to him. He also, no, no, no. And he also played a lot. more because that gave Skinner some rest, so Skinner's ready to go in the playoffs.

Yes, absolutely. But once you get to the playoffs, I don't agree with going back and forth on a position like a goalie. Now, when it comes to the forwards, so we agree. No, no, wait. We're not worried about the forwards. We're worried about the Boston Bruins flip-flopping goalies. And I go, if they win, if you win, you can do whatever the heck you want. They were a very good team this year, were they not? Yes. Right. So you can do whatever you want. It's culture. It's like, oh, yeah, we're all, it's great, feeling great. And the big hugs when they win. Right.

Both goalies have almost identical numbers. It doesn't matter. Except one goal he wins game one. One goal he loses game two. And I go, you're going back to Swamen now. If Swamen wins game three and you're up two games to one, why do you go back? Do they, though? Or do they then run with Swamen?

I don't know. I don't know. I was surprised that they chose to go to Allmark after Spamon. What happens if they lose game three, two to one in a game where Swamen plays well? Do you go back to Allmark at that point? They probably will. But I don't agree with that. I know you have trust.

Like, they probably have trust in both goalies, and that's how they're going to say it. That's how they've ran their ears, right? So maybe the Boston fans, if there's a Boston fan out there, I'd love to hear on the text, we'll bring it up next time around, whether they like it or not. Because, you know, here in Evanton, and I guess if we had two great goalies,

maybe we'd be fine with it. Eventually, it creeps into the back of your brain, though. Like, you know, if it's a 2-2 series, and Olmerk's lost two of them, no matter how good he's played, you go with the hot hand. It isn't a lot nicer to coach a team where you have a one.

And then you work off the one. So he just, you know who your starter is every game. If you're not getting a good game out of him, that's where you start to do things like, oh, after the first we're going to pull him. Or we're going to pull him. I remember Joe pulling our starting goal way back in the year

that we won the league. He pulled him for like, three minutes. And the three minutes that he pulled him, the backup went in, made two unbelievable saves, and then Joe pulled him and put back in the starter. And the team came back and won that game. But when you have a legit number one starter, now you're playing off of him. It's not about who's starting game two or who's starting game three. That guy starts. But I think, now it's about using that backup for what you need. I think, I think if you have two guys though, you've got to pick one of the guys and ride them until it doesn't make sense. It's a little

Topfer though, because when you have two guys, so let's, we'll use the Hillmont team. So I've got McEwen and Sloanway. I don't really, you know, McEwen's a vet, but I don't really have where one guy is way better than the other guy. I think when it comes to playoffs, though, you got to pick one guy and ride him. So you do. So you pick a guy and ride him. Yep.

And you win, so you go game two and he doesn't play that well. Mm-hmm. Right? So then you start to go, do you go game three with the same guy? Because now you're, and if you do, which we did, so then you go to game four. Now you're down to 1 and you go, well, I want to give the other guy a chance. What happened if he catches fire. And so when you have two guys, what I'm saying is when you have two guys that are close like that,

it's always in your mind as a coach because maybe this guy will catch fire for me. Whereas when you have a one and the other guy is not the one, it's just go. And then it changes how your coaching philosophy a little bit is on it. Right. Because if you start that same guy in game 4 now and you lose that, everybody's saying, well, why didn't you give the other guy a chance? Does it change mindset at all if you're Boston and you're trying to trade Allmark and Allmark? Who cares about trading right now?

You're in the playoffs? No, no, no. But Boston tried to trade Allmark this year and Allmark chose not to get traded, right? So it doesn't change anything in the culture in the room. That's all I'm wondering. Sure it does, but you're in the playoffs. You play your best. I think right now in the playoffs, nobody's thinking culture trades.

Everybody is like weird, even if we want to pick on culture right now and guys, and Evander Kane. Taylor Hall is... Well, Taylor Hall, they'd got rid of at the trade deadline because of the culture problem. But if Vander Kaine is sitting there and we know that there's been some struggles there, but I'll guarantee you guys like Corey Perry and Mattis Ekholm, game one of the playoffs, even in Van der Kaine, it's playoff time. And we're going to go win a cup and then we'll deal with your bullshit. And he's going, I'll deal with your bullshit later.

But we're here to win a cup right now. Yep. Right? There's one focus. Tonight, there's four series. series going on. I don't want to speak to the direct games because at the end of the day, tomorrow morning, this will be irrelevant. So Washington down, uh, 1-0, or maybe I'll go the other way, Winnipeg up 1-0, New York up 1-0, Vancouver up 1-0, Florida up 1-0. In a week's time,

which team that is down a game do you think will have won the series or in theory is, is roughly game seven? I think Winnipeg, Colorado. So you think Colorado is going to come back and push that to the brink? Yeah. I'd agree with that. I don't like Tampa Bay's chances against Florida. I do not like Washington's chances against New York Rangers. Vancouver, Nashville.

Is that Vancouver, Nashville? Is that the fourth? Yep. I think Nashville could push him a little bit. But Colorado, Winnipeg is the obvious one that should go deep. I think the other one that could be, though, was Tampa Bay Florida. Oh, no. Tampa Bay is going to push Florida.

I think there's, and understand, listeners that Sean's got a little extra caveat in that because him and his nephew Owen decided to go with Tampa Bay big. So they're a little scorn right now because they're the bottom in the draft. But I do think, I do think that whenever you're Tampa Bay and you have one of the top three defensemen in the league and you have one of the top goaltenders in a league, everybody gets squirrel finds, blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. See, the reason why I think Nashville has a chance against Vancouver is if you actually look at Nashville's team, they brought in a bunch of vets who were really good and have some really good experience between Ryan McDonough and Ryan O'Reilly.

So they're not. Can they win a game or two? Yeah. Well, and Vancouver is inexperienced. Yes. Right? So like you can expose that. And Nashville's got a really good goal to enter in Serra.

So I think they can. You know what? That sounds like Nashville has zero depth. Yeah, they got one line. I brought in O'Reilly. Great. And they've got they got an old McDonough on one leg paired with Yosey. Like, who do they have?

Who do they have? Vancouver's got no vets. J.T. Miller is a 100 point per game guy. Anybody else, McKinna McDavid, all they're flying to the series. We got J.T. Miller, 100 point per game guy. 100 points this year. I'd like to also point out, Jay has a little added incentive because him and Burt took it.

But I just, I can live with a lot of arguments. If we're going to call the Tampa Bay, maybe we should call out the Vancouver drafting too. I find it interesting, Bert, wherever you're listening from, The year I don't show up to that draft, diehard Vancouver fan, that's who we buy up. They were cheaper. I don't doubt that. They probably went for dirt cheap.

I could make a better argument for Washington because I think if Washington, I know that Rangers have Rampé and that's her answer. But if I'm Washington, it has to get into the muck, doesn't it? You get a bullet. Absolutely. Right? Like that's the only way, like the Rangers are soft. Yeah, they brought in Rampi, but look at the guys they got. Zabinajad and Paneran, Lefrenia.

Like, Lefrenne. The name is soft. Right? Like, I don't even like the Rangers, but I think, they're a good team. They're talking to their president's trophy team. They're going to win, in my mind, they win this round. I think they have huge problems next round because I don't really like their team. Like they're a fancy.

That's why I can make the argument of Washington going, I still don't think Washington wins that series, but if I'm Washington, it's in the mock. Here's the thing, as I think Nashville has a shot against Vancouver. That's all I'm saying. I know you guys think that Vancouver's going to walk it, but I think. The question was one out of the four teams, Haralds, did you pick one? I picked Tampa. I pick Colorado.

Sorry, I mean, Colorado, Florida. If I'm going to pick a series, Colorado is the series. It's going to be the series. And to me,

to me, I like National's a Dark Course. Dustin's argument was Sarah, Soros and Ned. I like three of the series, you know? I like three of the series. You like Nashville.

Okay. I like, no, no, I said Colorado's the, the team out of all of them. I said that first, but I said National as a shot.

Don't let's stream more. I mean, I like Calgary too. Well, let's pick the team that was a stand-up chance for two years ago. of course they're going to push him be right there.

Like if they would have done a couple things. Hey, Dust, you're yelling, Dust. Hey, hey? It's been a few since, uh, since Dust started yelling at the mic. My only argument with the Nashville and the Soros for the goaltender is I would rather have Demko on the other side, right? So I, you know, as good as that is, I still prefer Demko. And going back to the veteran.

So on Vancouver's defense, you got Ian Cole, you got Zadarov, Tyler Myers, Ronic. I mean, and then Quinn Hughes is up for the north. That's five of their 60. I'm missing one defensemen. Don't forget the local boy, Carson Sussi, from Irma. So he was probably the most youngest out of the group, though. But there's a lot of veteran presence on that back end. Like, that's not guys that have only been around for a year or two.

There's some guys that have played playoffs. You want to talk about a guy who set a record last night was Adam Henrique, who went the most... Almost 12 years. Most seasons or most regular season games between playoff goals. Between playoff goals? He was 12 years. The old holder of that record was.

was Craig Ludwig. One almost 12 years between playoff goals. Yeah. Okay. Quickly, before we get into the next upcoming bet, Picksburg, we, you know, we almost ate our words. Like, Pittsburgh. I was hoping we ate our words.

I'm hoping that you have it on the preliminary of this show where Jay talks about where I said the Flyers are the team that's not making it. It's true. You did say it, but we're talking about Pittsburgh here. I know. Just thought I throw that little. Pittsburgh, what Sidney Crosby did was something to watch. Almost heroic.

Yeah. He pulled them to within, wow, I mean, you wish they were in. Honestly, out of all the teams, them or Detroit, geez, Detroit was fun to watch. It makes Colby's argument about how the basketball does it, where you have the 7-8 play and the, right, and the loser has to play the winner of the 9-10 game. You almost like that for that scenario. Yeah, even though it's a basketball thing. It's a little soft.

And it's a little soft, yeah. Yeah, we're not stealing anything from basketball. But, okay, the thing was, is what does Pittsburgh do now? What does Pittsburgh do now? I still love what they did with their team this year. Like, you've got some pieces there. Crosby obviously still good. Melton's actually pretty decent still, but I just didn't understand what they did with the rest of the team at all.

I don't get what they're doing there. And I said before they should blow it up. and you almost like, you need to bring in some guys. If you're Eric Carlson, you're starting to get a complex? Well, you should. I don't know.

What do you do with that team? Like you were either at the verge of blowing it up or we're going to try one more year. Like that's... But Eric Carlson was not a good fit in my mind for what they needed for that team. No, I understand. What are you talking about here now?

Now what do they do? I don't know. If you're Crosby, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a firm. believer in like the traditional hockey where you just stay and you play it out but he's kind of like tom brady that guy he's probably got another four or five years of like solid hockey if he keeps doing what he's doing like it's been impressive to watch he could slide on to colorado

i don't want to see him go to colorado but i kind of want to see him go to colorado could we just get a cup first before they do that like he's he he needs to be in the playoffs like he is unbelievable at age and everything. He's still got it. Mm-hmm. I know. Maybe Washington. Imagine him and OV. together? You're not putting on a fucking OV in Washington. Yeah, I... Yeah.

On some NHL game, you could do that. That's right. Lindy Ruff, okay, nobody can figure out what to do with Pittsburgh. I don't know what to do. At the end of the day. Lindy Ruff, going back to the Sabres, for those keeping track, he played for the Sabres, 79 to 89, so roughly 10 years, and then he coached the Sabers from 97 to

2013. So what was his record lately. Who he coached Jersey last? Is that correct? Let me look it up for you. While Sean's looking up, those final two Detroit games where they had to win in order to even have a chance to make the playoffs were unreal.

Those, the last. And then the flyers screwed them over. Oh, man. Late in a one-one game, they pull the goal because they think they have the shot. Meanwhile, Detroit had already sent it over time to put Philadelphia out.

Down in both games. Philadelphia screwed. Montreal in both games, and then they pull the goalie, they score with nine seconds to put it into overtime. They end up winning the next game, almost verbatim, the exact same thing, score with 3.3 seconds left in order to put it like... That was exciting hockey, though. That's all I'm trying to get at, is going into the playoffs, that was exciting. I hope they think about that as they're on the golf course. Yeah, with the flickers. If they played like that for a full month, they're in the playoffs.

Instead, you waited. And I mean, I'm being a little tough on them, but they were fun to watch, Dan. There's no, there's no getting around. They're right there. Yeah, they're right there. Next year, I could see them getting in. So Lindy Ruff in 2021, he started with the New Jersey Devils. In 56 games, he was 19 and 30.

His next year, he was 27 and 46. Both years they missed the playoffs. Last year, they went 52 and 22 and lost in the second round. and this year he got replaced mid-season from New Jersey. Because they had a tough start. Like, does that sound like the guy you're bringing in to Buffalo? Going back to Buffalo. Going back to Buffalo.

I don't know. Is that the best guy out there? How old's Lindy Rough now? 70s? No, well, he played 79 to 80. Born in 1960. There you go. So early 60s.

64 years old. I guess. I don't know. I just, I struggle with it with where the guys. games at and who it is, but maybe he'll come and have great success. Maybe Buffalo feels like on the flip side, to be fair, if you look at the last two coaches of Buffalo, Granato, and the guy before that was Ralph Kruger, I believe, both guys weren't experienced per se as what you'd call experienced coaches. So maybe Buffalo looks at, hey, let's just bring back a guy that we have some years

in the league, some pedigree. We feel like we have the players. We feel like we have the pieces for them. We put a guy like that in the place. It's going to get. It should be a playoff quality team, shouldn't they? Well, yeah. Look at their defense now. You put another year into that belt? Well, they've got some forwards there. They can play.

Yeah, I agree with you. So I think that's maybe what they're thinking. So when I talk it out amongst myself, I go, yeah, maybe it's all right. No, maybe it's not terrible hire. I kind of get it. I kind of get it. Maybe they don't want to have some brand new guy again. They know Lindy Ruff.

Yeah. He's got a cool name. You bleed sabers. Hey, like, Lindy Ruff? Like, are you fighting that guy? Not me. Okay. We got a week until the next roundtable.

This week's silver coin, I don't know, silver gold bowl challenge? I don't know. We'll figure that out. Is we're going to each pick one goalie who's going to have, the winner of the coin is going to be the guy who picks the one goalie with the most saves in the playoffs, obviously. All the games combined most saves. Correct. So Dust, we're going to start with you because you were lowest, then Jay, then Harley,

then the current champ. Sean will get to go first. Dust, who are you taking? I'm going to go with a guy that's playing a team that is all offense and gets a lot of shots. Connor Hellebuck. And the year would support that theory. Connor Hellebuck was number two in saves, total saves for the year behind one. I'm definitely not going with the New York Carolina series because that could be over in hurry.

So I feel like we're going to be going to. going through definitely not go with Boston goalies because you don't know which one you're getting. And thanks Jay. So you know what? I'm going to take a piece off of dust. I'm going to go with UC Saros off of Nashville because he's going to get a ton of rubber off of Vancouver. And you know who the number we know who's playing there. Who's the backup for Nashville?

Exactly. You know, you know who is the number one goalie and shots against this year? Yeah. UC Saros. So you went Saros by Helibuck. There you go. That's good. Because Vancouver gets a lot of shots, too.

I think the game that's going seven, not that that's going to influence in another week's time, but I think it's going back and forth. And so I am going Georgiev from Colorado. As long as he keeps starting, but. Well, I guess we'll see. I guess we'll see. Who's the backup there? Because they were talking about how poorly he playing game one.

No, no, I like that pick for Harals. Now, who's the back up there? I'm not even a hundred percent sure there either. Right. But I heard that they were a little bit. not happy with how he played. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe the team needs to play better in front of them too. Okay.

Hey? You know what? I'm going to have a small giggle if Colorado starts a guy. Okay. I don't think about Halebuck is they're going with him the whole way. Yes. Well, same with serves. Yeah.

Same with Dempco. Right. Yeah. Sean? Same. Same with probably Stuart Skinner. Bazelowski. Yeah.

Basilisky would be a decent one. Yeah. Oh, we're just giving Sean picks. I'd probably go a Swamen, Sean. They're going to run with him. Samsonoff. Samsonoff. Samsonate.

I'm thinking about this. I was going to pick, I was going to pick Ottinger, right? And then I looked at how many shots he got in game one. It says he got 15 shots. Mike, that ain't going to win me jack squat. How many goals do you let him? Three. Four.

Four. Four. Four. Four. Four. I think that's what I just said. I'm going to double-track. It was very much.

He had 16. He had 16 saves, 15, 15 saves, so 19 shots, yeah, four goals. Save percentage at 733. He's going to come back to be better. Oh, 100%. George Ev is going to be better. I mean, you got Hellow Buck's going to be better. You sound like you're trying to commit yourself.

I'm just saying in Colorado Winnipeg. James, do we have a side bet here on how many games Georgia have plays? What's the overrown, two and a half? 13 goals. 13 goals between those two goal tenders, though? That ain't happening. I think Georgia have plays the whole series except for one game. I'm going to put the over under on Georgia have in that series at three and a half.

Okay, so then tell me. If it goes seven games, how many does he play? Who's their backup goaltender then, Dust? I don't know. You're talking about putting in. Frank Coos just retired, so it's not him. You're talking about putting in somebody you don't even know their backup goaltender. It feels like it's an old vet guy now, isn't it?

I think they'd strap the pads on my car. I'm going to go with Vaselis. Vaselisky, a T-Bay. Nice pick. I like that. That's a safe pick. Okay. Well, Florida puts up shots.

You know he's going to start. You know he's going to play well. Yeah. And I think that that series is going to go deep. That's funny that three of the four brothers realize that. It's going to get a lot of rubber. All right. That'll do it for this week's Brothers Roundtable.

We're going to be back next week. And we'll see. What did we say before this that there was no looking at any stats? And then what did you proceed to do the entire time while all three of us were sitting here talking? No, I had to look at. You had to look at what, does? Or Sean?

You had to look at watch. Sean, you don't know what the starting goalies are for the teams of the playoffs? That's right. I was making sure there was nothing, no injuries. You know, I also am the guy last year at the kid Scottie draft. Me and Bert drafted like seven guys who were all injured off Carolina. And we finished like dead last in the entire draft. So I guess, yeah, I was making sure he was.

Bert mentioned that and I was like, oh, yeah, we got golf passes for getting last place last year. They gave them to me to give to you guys and I forgot to give them to you. So I still got golf passes at my house. What do you call it in golf to make someone more even when you're... Handicap. Handicap. So you give me a handicap.

So because Sean's the youngest brother, we're used to give him a handicap. We actually don't really notice it, to be honest. Yeah. All right. We'll catch up to everybody next week. Roundtable returns. And we're back now until essentially, man, end of June. Yeah, we're going to be going on holidays together.

Yeah, that's right. Okay. That's it, folks. We'll catch up to you next week.