Shaun Newman Podcast - #635 - Brother's Roundtable

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

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This is Brad 14. This is Doug Casey. This is Tom Romago. This is Alex Kraner. This is Viva Fry. You're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Brothers Groundtable, joined by the Brothers again, obviously. Yeah, lots going on.

We're bantering here. I'm sure we're going to harp on the Oilers a little bit. Before we get there, first, first, okay, first and foremost, everyone's like, oh, did you brew coffee this morning? I'm like, no, no, I didn't. I decided to have a little fun this morning. instead of showing off somebody else's stuff on the table, not that you can see it on the camera on me and me and Harles,

and probably for most people, will release this just audio. We're working on a few things in studio, as the brothers can see. What do I do with my hands? Exactly. No, Sean Alexander, the owner of Kalani, the three cups you're drinking out of,

came into studio. Oh, three. Not mine then. No, no, no, you're three. Okay. And I thought, you know, back in college, we used to do this thing called Pink Helmet. If you were last in the shootout, the next practice you had to wear the pink helmet. And I thought, oh, gee, I was like, what am I going to do with a pink cup?

And then I thought, well, the brothers do a bet every week. Maybe the guy who's in last drink goes in the pink cup. So, Jay, you're dead last this week and is going in the pink cup. Dead last for the silver coin, but may I say out of the four brothers first in the Dawn's Cup right now? Just throwing that out there. And I will throw this out there too. that I for sure will not finish in fourth out of the four brothers in the Don's Cup because we all know someone is pretty much toast.

I will say of all the brothers, the Pink Cup probably matches Jay Best for some reason. It's funny, he walked in this morning. First guy here, saying to Dust, who showed up late. First guy here, he walks in and he almost knew. He grabbed the pink cup, and I'm like, it's interesting. It's just interesting because it's the biggest one out of the four, so I find that interesting. Mucho grande. But actually, okay, sure.

So I thought maybe we'd add it a little spice to it. You get dead last, you get in the pink cup at the next roundtable. That's fine. It all depends what you're talking about. If the silver coin, I understand. The Panthers did exactly what I said the Oilers were going to do, which was they showed up and didn't score. We're literally in the studio.

And what are we talking about? We're talking next about who got the silver coin this week. So who gets the silver coin? Let me just say, I hope I never get that pink cup because I wore that pink helmet enough in college. You did. Yeah. Couldn't score on a breakway to save his life. It was almost quite sad.

Okay. The silver coin this week is a little bit controversial because I'd like to point out first and foremost. We didn't go out of here going. Highest goal total, and remind the listener, our bet last week was who in their first game of round two would have the most goals. So Dost took the New York Rangers.

They won four three. I took the Colorado Avalanche. They won four three. In overtime? But it was in overtime. And so they're like, well, no, no. No, no, no. You're not going right through it.

So it was who had the most goals, followed by, because Harley's team, he took Emmington, right? And they lost five, four. So all three guys, I took Florida. They had one. So all three guys had four goals. So then it goes to the tiebreaker. How many goals against? Vancouver had five.

Harley's out. Your two had three. So then we had to come up with another tie breaker. Then we had to add it in rules. And you know the guy who suggested is the guy who's getting today's silver coin? That's probably what pisses me off the most. He's like, oh, I think, I think Sean. God, it's an overtime.

I'm like, it's a win. In the playoffs, do they not call an overtime win a win? Oh, no. No, we're going to regular season. What would you prefer that, Sean? To be fair, though, he passed it through the group, and both me and Harley agreed. And now, and now. So, guys, I brought my silver coin from last week so I can stack them just to show everybody

what two silver coins looks like. I'm a pauper right now. And I tell you what, there, there, I got mine on the table as well. I'm a little disjointed. about how it all went. My team wins. They score for, and I still get hooped by all three brothers.

And then they call it democracy. They call it democracy on me. And then they completely implode where I'm like, we've got her in the bag. They're already up four one. Hardly was counting as chickens folks before they even hatched. Before we even get there, I will just say this.

The text messaging was awesome because Sean's like, oh, they also won four or three. And I just threw out there, yeah, they got an overtime, though. So I think the guy who got it in regulation should get it. And Harley right away jumps in, yeah, I agree. And then Jay's like, yeah, I agree too. And I'm like, oh, Sean's got to be sitting there.

Just stewing. Just unbelievable. Unreal, you know. Anywho, I'm sure the listeners are, oh, that perfectly makes sense. I'm like, it perfectly makes sense if you set it at the rules at the start. Just said, most goals, not most goals in regulation. It doesn't have to be ordering. Democracy, Sean.

Democracy. Yeah, democracy. Okay. Which now would lead us to, what are we doing next week for a bet? Well, we're doing some sort of a plus-minus, Oilers versus Vancouver in the next two games, correct? Yeah, because... Goal differential between the two teams.

Jay and I won't be here before, so it'll be only the next two games. So, Jay gets to pick first, obviously, because he got last. And let me guess Harley gets picked second because of goal differential and how it all works out. So then Sean gets picked third. Yeah, that's right. And I get to pick last and see if I can win again. I think it all makes sense, Sean. Mm-hmm. Okay. So here we go.

We've got to talk through this for a second here. Let's talk about before I make, I want to think about this. So you guys talk about- Do you want to talk about the game? Do you want to talk about the game? Because he's a little chapped. They're up four to one, and you can't lock it down? Like, they go 22 minutes without a shot on net.

Are you freaking kidding me? Like, that is unbelievable. You know what that reminded me of? Do you remember Bill Belichick coaching the Patriots during the heyday? Yep. he was one of the only teams I ever saw who didn't take the foot off the pedal. Who would just go hard. And what a lot of football teams do, and this goes for hockey as well,

is you get up and you're like, oh, as long as we don't give up the breakaway, the big play will be safe. And you know, what happens in football every time? They give away the short stuff. And all of a sudden they're marching down the ball down the field and they get touchdowns.

And that's what happened in this game is the Oilers are just like, oh, if we just, if we don't forecheck too hard, make sure no one gets behind us. But as soon as you play safe, you're dead because they just keep coming at you in waves I agree with you dust actually I'll take it one step further because we play so much noon hour I actually giggle to myself how many times where if one team gets up two or three at the start you know what they come out one two or three they naturally just take the foot off the gas because you

know you know nobody wants to punch the other guys in the mouth because we play together all the time but it just and then the other team starts to score and it's hard to get that back yeah it's really hard and sometimes I'll be on the bench with the never sweats we're playing a bunch of young guys and they'll score twice right away and I'll go oh it's the best thing that could have happened to us right because now they already think oh it's a bunch of old guys we're going to pound these guys and then they just take the foot off the gas and it's just hard to get going again and the other team just goes to work and there you go that's right and then next thing

shon's in the loser come we get well no the best was wait noon hour we just won did you yes we are three three three three three three were you there I've got a I've got a I've got a I've got a hamstring I'm recovering from right now. So, Jay wasn't there yesterday. I wasn't there. I don't really care. I don't care who's there. 3-33-3.

Oh, so now you're making your own rules. 3-3-3. No, I'm saying the series. We play noon and our hockey folks. I've been against the three brothers for way too long. It's almost like they've do this on purpose. Regardless, it's 3-33.

Friday is the end of it. I'm coming full force. We're winning game 10 and carry on with life. All right. So the second point I got about the Oilers. No comment. Dust doesn't care. Second point I got about the Oilers is goal tenning.

If you look at the Oilers team, they have an elite, maybe the best in the league set of forwards. Pretty easy to argue that. Their defense is sound. They've got to be top ten in the league, I would say. They're a defenseman. They're right there. Like they're a solid group. Although I'll always point out they're missing a true number one.

But, yeah. Sure. They're more by committee than having, you know, the big gun. Which, I mean, we've seen teams win cups with. That's right. But there's no big holes in their defense. No. They're a solid group.

The biggest hole they have on their whole team, and I've said this since the start of the year, the first podcast we did at Brothers Roundtable, start of the year, was goaltending. Now, is Stuart Skinner bad? No. But has he top 15 goal in the league? No. He's not.

And that's the biggest problem they have. And if you look at that game last night, two of those goals and... Yeah, but look at the other side. Like, Vancouver wanted three of those goals. And you're comparing right now Skinner, Vancouver's running with her third string that played American Hockey League. I don't care about the other team. I'm talking about the Oilers. The Oilers scored four goals and Skinner led him five. How about the fact that Nurse and Sisi were on for four goals against? Did you see two of those goals? Did you see two of them? One was from the side of the net off his sticking in and the other one.

It's a nice deflection. Miller on the side of the net? No, no, not that one. I'm talking with the one where he put it in his own net. The guy just threw it and it went off his stick. And you go, well, okay, that was an accident. Things like that are going to happen. The fifth goal, though, and what happened with Skinner last year in Vegas is what was the big hole that Vegas found with Skinner? His lateral movement and his feet. And what happened twice last night, one was him putting it in his own net. And the fifth goal, the guy came down, fake slap shot, and then shot it, not a super hard shot, but it was Skinner's feet that led in that goal. That's a goal that you cannot let in.

Okay, so who do you go with in game two? No, I'm not saying. No, I'm just asking. No, no. Does everybody say Skinner? No problem. You're going back to Skinner. All I'm saying is if the only hole the oil is half.

Let's go down that path. So if Vancouver beats Eminton in game two, who do you go with game three? Depends on how Skinner plays. If Skinner comes out and plays well, then you stay with Skinner. Can you imagine Pickard versus? Wins the Cup? Hey? Pickard versus Silovs?

I just bring it up because if there's one hole in the Oilers, that's the hole that's... Well, if you look at the teams are left, I mean, with a lot. Apologies to Vancouver who should have Demko in the net, who is a top 10. Dallas has Ottinger. Yeah. He's top 10. Georgia, to me, is not. No, with Colorado.

He's probably saved in the New York. Shisterkin is. Frederick Anderson in the playoffs plays. Bobroski is. Boebrowski is. Swamon is. That's right. Yeah.

The others got here by a different route. They got here by an amazing power play. So then it goes, and then it goes back to what you say. So because that's your weakest spot is back there, you can't then do the lockdown. where we're going to sit back for a period and a half. And not get a shot in a full period. Because you need to win game 6-5. Yes.

You're going to have to go out of. Or you just, you've got to play hockey. You've got to get some shots on the net. When they were shooting on, how do you say his last name? Salaf. Silov? Shilov, I think. What?

There's no H in there, is there? No, but he's from a different country. He's not from Hillman, Sean. He's from East. Playoffs? Talking about playoffs. He's from Lafia. Like, the thing is, is like,

Oilers didn't score a very, like, look at their goals last night. None of them were pretty. And Vancouver fans, although happy this morning, somewhere bird, it's just, like, I mean, he's over the moon. I could just feel him skirming when it's 4-1. But, like, somewhere they're going, man, our goaltending, looked not very good last night. Well, that's because it's their third string, and we should expose him over and over and over again. As long as you play the game. Which they did.

Yeah. For a period and a half. Yeah. You just got to finish out the game. They're going to go sit in the room. This isn't some rookie group. They're going to sit there and go, boys. Nuge hitting the post didn't help.

Yeah, that was tough. If they come back and score the... Sure. But, I mean, then wouldn't have been 5-1. It's 4-2. You still got the game ahead. But what I'm saying is at 5-1, then, right, it's a different... The game's actually...

That game is probably actually over. I agree. Same with the Vancouver player covered the puck and threw it out of the zone. If they call that penalty, Now they don't score the tying goal rate. There's a few things that happen in the game that, you know. Was dry saddle hurt? I was listening to six.

Obviously. They said cramping is what Noblock said. Obviously they're not going to say exactly what it is. Drysiddle is not leaving the bench if it's cramping. I don't know. How do you know? Well, but they're not going to tell you in the playoffs anyways. Nobody's going to say anything.

No, no, exactly. But it's got to be some sort of injury because dry sidle, if he's cramping, he's not going, he's not leaving the bench. That's not dry siddle. I don't know. Cramping can get pretty bad. Cramming can suck. Yep. It's just...

What's the sense of sitting on the bench if you're like that? You might as well try and go get fixed. I think... He didn't look great the rest of the game. I think this next game is going to be really interesting because sometimes a loss is not terrible to have once in a while because it brings everybody right back to where we're not invincible. By the end of the LA series,

they kind of just did their thing and rolled through and look at us, we're the Oilers. And you think about what, you know, dry sidels tired of the question about Vancouver beating them all season and on and on and on. Well, now they just beat you. So game two, I think, after we're up 401. I think game two is going to be really interesting.

What type of, do the oilers come out, the oilers should come out where it's 5-1. Well, and the thing about, but do they? Like the Florida Boston series. Right. Here's the thing about the Oilers, too, is this is not the team from three to four years ago where it's a bunch of young guys. Right. This is a bunch of guys who've been through the meat grinder numerous times in the playoffs,

made the conference final. Well, the Toronto Maple Leaf guys have been through the meat grinder too. No, no, no, no. But I think this is a mature team that's really good at the same time. The Maple Leafs don't have a good. good defense or a good goal you know the text line the i've been i've been ranging on all the canadian teams right um and so the text line this morning was uh was lovely i was getting texted from leaps fans kinnock fans every fan i got chirped in the in the dressing room about the

leaps we lost the game you did lose the game didn't you dust anyhow and i mentioned to malcolm that you know maybe next game guys we should show up you know not halfway through the game we're kind of like were you crying on the bench dust Anyhow, all I've said is I think the Oilers are good enough where I'm not that concerned about them. The goaltending in my mind is still the weak spot, but do I think they're good enough? Yeah, I think they're going to. I agree with everything. It'll still be interesting on Game 2.

If Game 2 comes out and Vancouver, all you want to do of Vancouver now is Roper do Open Game 2. Can we keep it close enough? Yeah, can we make it a one-n-n-n-offy game? Right. Or even a-or-even for a lucky bounce. Or even if we're only down 3-2 going into the 3rd. And the older sticks start to tighten. And all of a sudden we get a lucky bounce like Carl says in the 3-3. And all of a sudden we pull out one in overtime.

And everybody starts gripping our sticks again, right? And really, what are these guys made up? Like, that's how Vancouver's going in. Vancouver's got nothing to lose. They're playing with house money. Yeah. Yeah. As a guy who's...

Skinner usually typically bounces back from a game like that. I expect better things for the next game. Well, he had a bad game in round one against L.A., and he bounced back from it. Well, then he had, would arguably people, you know, said, oh, if, you know, because then I also got taxing. You know, if the others can win one-nothing game Skinner playing like that, like they didn't against L.A., they could be an actual threat this year. Can I throw out there that, you know, just for Vancouver, just for a second, that they're not just dog shit that everybody walks all over? They're not. First place team in the West, in their division.

In the Pacific. In the Pacific, thank you. The thing by them adding Lindholm during the season is they are three lines deep. Lynn home is no like Linholm was a first line center for Calgary and now That's not saying much though Well it is Calgary I'm not going to argue with that

Shout out to grab her But what it's good With them splitting up J.T. Miller and Pedersen They now run three deep Yep That's a strong matchup And their defense does have a lot more veteran When you say a rookie team

There is some Patterson, Quinn Hughes, some of them guys But the defense has got some veterans You know, Tyler Minor and Zaderoff and some of them guys, Cole that have been around a long time, and they're big and miserable. Oh, they're a good team without a doubt.

You know, so it's a good test. Yeah. So going back to the silver coin. Now that we've talked about it, right? Long way around here. Gold differential in the next two games, Jay. Well, I think I'm going to go back to where... Wait, wait, wait, we're going to do prices, right?

Or closest to. Closest two, I think. Well, what happened if we have that plus one, plus 2 plus 4 plus 5 and ends up plus 3. Then why don't we push the point if that happens? Then Jay gets it? Then it becomes a push? Then it becomes a push.

A push and you double up for the next one? That's right. Sure. Instead of adding all these lovely rules, we could have had a push this week. Should we bring in? Yeah. Oh, no, no, we're going to give out an exit. Should we bring in a putter and have a little jar

and see who could put the ball in the jar first? And whoever's tied. Something different. I don't like this because we're literally going to have a put-off if we're If we're tied, we're having a cutoff. This is coming from the guy that is starting to play golf again every week. So I am not for this one bit. Well, Jay always was good.

Well, maybe we could do something more Harley-style. Maybe we could do a spelling bee or something, eh? I don't know if anyone caught that. Anyhow, let's go. I did catch that. What we're talking about is feats of strength. Is that what we want to do? Okay, Jay, pick your goal differential.

Okay, so we got to talk to the next two games. So the big question in game two is, are the oilers going to smack them? Or are they going to be a tight one? Are they going to lose? No, Jay. Tell me. You got first pick. I think it's going to be a tight one, and then they come back to Emmerton, and they push it out.

So I'm going to say plus four for the Oilers. Plus four. Plus five for the Oilers. Now I got to. See, the only problem with me going first like this is I actually get screwed on this deal. I'm like, Jay's going to get screwed. I actually should go. We should go the option.

No, no, no, no. No, no. We're not trying to give us a change. another silver coin. We're not trying to give dust of a silver coin. We're not sure because you guys could just isolate me. No, we're totally,

Jay, Jay, we're totally. This is the wrong way. No, no, no. No, we're already into it. No. No. No.

And you're totally going to. Dust. I thought we're a democracy. We're a democracy. We're a democracy. So you don't get to just be the president all of a sudden. That's correct, actually. And it isn't a democracy.

I get to screw dust over this time. I agree with Jay. Dust you can start. How's that? Yeah, let's let's go dust. How do guys pick their two picks? Well, you know it. It literally could have been a push.

It literally could have been a push. Democracy gave you an extra silver coin. And this time, democracy is saying you picked first. Suck it. So go first, Dust. Let's hear your reason. I can't believe Jay changed the rules. You know what?

I can't believe Dust changed the rules as my team tied your team for most goals in a week. I'll be honest, there's a little piece of me. I still can't believe that I lost that. Come on now. Well, you know what's going to happen here. We're going to go on each side of dust, so he's only got one real true pick. There's just a slight piece of me, very slight, that hopes he wins because it'll be awesome. You know what I mean?

If I pick the number and you guys sandwich me and then I actually win. Yeah, that's right. I'll go Oilers plus two. Plus two. Wow. A goal each game. See, I got to try and make it so no one wants to go on the other side of me. That's what I'm trying to do right now. But go ahead and sandwich me if you want.

I tried to do it over under where I. I'm going to go plus five. Oh, and Sean went the opposite way. Now the question is, are they going to go plus six and plus one? That's the real question. Well, they can't go plus, well, they could do plus one. Yeah, you're right. But that means whether they're losing a game.

Yeah, I'm fair. Harley's pick plus six. Wow. Plus six. Jay's pick plus one. You know what? That means I get plus two, plus three, and you get plus four plus five. That's correct.

Actually, that works out well. I don't mind that. You would, after all that. You did plus one. You might as just stay with the original fish. Well, if I go to plus three, I only get plus three. Well, no, it would be a push on plus four. That's right.

So he gets one number. If I go plus four, I get one number. That was one. We all assume here, because we're oiler fans that, I mean, listen to Harley, he's got the choice of plus six or plus one. He chooses plus six, which means the oil is a good to win. Oilers blown him out twice. Right. I mean, there's got to be like, birds.

Do you regret your decision of having last back? Because I have, if Vancouver wins a game or the, Oilers win one and like I'm right there. You know what's funny is if we would have went with what we said we were going to do, I would end up with plus two or less and now I get plus two plus three. Instead, Jason gets plus one or less. And I get like, well, it's way better for me because I would end up with plus four. That's it.

Yes. Actually, I was going to laugh about I. Until you said something, I was like, this is perfect. He's going to get someone and get screwed over again. But you know what's going to happen though. They're going to win by plus three or plus four. They're going to win by plus two. You're going to win by plus two and Dust will win again, right?

Sure. My amount of money will just grow. See, I'm surprised Sean didn't take plus three. But he was scared to getting isolated. No, he would have gotten isolated. And he would have because hardly would take plus four. That's right. So actually the third spot was the worst.

It's okay. I'm okay with plus five. I'm okay with that. Plus four or plus five? Correct. I got two spots. That was actually smart of you to do it like that. There you go.

Not all looks, boys. Not all just looks. That's why I had to go plus two. Otherwise, it just doesn't happen very often. So we're a little shocked here sitting at the table. Our playoff bracket track Playoff bracket challenge Talking about silver

Right now You know dust was all hot and heavy about his picks Right now Stan sends is number one And I'm just going to pull up his bracket I didn't know how to count points for that He got every team right in the first round And he's got moving on

The Oilers Stars Florida and Carolina That's exact same as me That's same as me I've got Florida Rangers, Edmonton, Dallas. And who is? Wiennes 19. What did you go in for? Brent or Brian is number two.

I was wrong. I picked the Leafs to beat the Bruins. And I picked the... Oh, and... Winnipeg. Weans also is in number two. He had all the same picked as well. Obviously, something to do with games, I'm assuming.

And he has Emmington, Dallas, New York, Florida. Florida making the second round. There's the top two guys in the bracket challenge. There's bonus points, I think, if you get the exact number of games rate. And heck, you know what? Screw it. Because we're rewarding the top three. I'll pull up the top third, or the third one.

He got all right as well. He's got Dallas Canucks Rangers, Florida, going to the semis. And that would be... My four teams moving on. I was... Glenn Van Devere. Do we know how to bring up the Kits Gutty draft? Do we know how to look out the dead last?

Who's dead last in this thing? Because they're getting awarded too. Dead last right now. His first place again in the kids' gutty. Amanda Cooper, okay? Amanda Cooper, because I said top three, getting a silver coin, bottom person in this draft, getting a coin.

Amanda Cooper right now sitting in 45th spot. And this is who she picked in the first round to come through. She did pick the Oilers Vancouver. She missed on the jets. She missed on Tampa. She missed on the Leafs. She missed on the Caps.

She missed on the Islanders. Oh, my. So she's got the Eminton Oilers, Vancouver, right? She's got the Oilers winning the cup. That's the only thing that she had Emmington playing Winnipeg. She's two and six. She's got Emmeton playing. Here's her next four, though. Eminton, Winnipeg, Toronto Capitals. So her only chance is if the Oilers come all the way through that, she might be getting a silver coin for that one right there, banking on the Canadian, all Canadian final. And if she wouldn't have chosen the Oilers and chosen L.A., I would say she was putting one in to lose. But with her picking Emmeton, I'm going, no, she was probably trying. there you go Amanda so shout out to Amanda for right there okay um Blue Jays you wanted Blue Jays in on this well I'm just dead last in the east

seven and a half back in early May so so the thing about this is and I'm not a huge fan of this team but they're only three games under which means they're not that bad they're in a very very strong division and I don't think their team's quite good enough but they're not awful

the problem is that as you and I have talked about before, they haven't made enough smart enough moves to be really, really good. There's kind of a middling team. As time goes along, I'm starting to feel like the management's a problem there. I don't like some of the moves they've made. I actually like their starting pitching staff. They've done a good job in the pitching staff. Like the marino move looks terrible right now.

The other thing that I... And we will give credit where credit is due, dusted, bring that up a long time ago. Well, I think we all agree. Agreed, yes. And they are, they are, to be fair to them, they have some players really struggling.

So why do guys, you know, why does a Boba Shet, who's running into his prime, why is he struggling like that? Vladdy. There's the same way. And Vladdy is struggling,

but not, you know, not at the clip. Is Vladdy not an elite player? Is he a really good player, but not elite? Is he a lead or did he have an elite year? That's what I mean.

That's what I mean. ask is he really elite or did he have an elite year one year because he did I mean he's won a gold glove second in voting for MVP and in the funny thing with that's that's why he is he had a year that isn't elite he's still a good player because he's still banging out 30 and 90 but but is he he an elite player or is he a really good player and there's a difference there I agree because he had he did have an elite year you know because he just won MVP but is he really elite or is he a really good player maybe we're not far enough along in the curve yet to know with him yeah I find shed interesting though.

This guy's a pure hitter and has been like it's like his brain's gone. You know what's funny is the move I kind of question was Turner because of his age and he's their best hitter right now. Well, because he just comes in to the same thing he does every year. Well, I realize that. But he just comes in and hits. No, no, no. I realize that.

But he's also 38 years old. So I'm kind of like, you know, is there going to be a drop off there? He'll be an okay hitter. But he's been their best hitter. Yeah. Like the whole offense is relying on him to do something. Juan, Varshal. has stood out to me thus far, right?

If this guy wanted to trade right now, it's Varshal. You know what's funny about Varshal is? He's standing out because of how crappy everybody else is, because he's still only hitting at a 227 clip. And everybody's going, oh, what a great year Varsal's going. You're going, if this is our great year, you know what they feel like right now? They feel like the flames.

They honestly do. They feel like with the moves they're making, we're just going to be this middling team that's never going to quite hit the playoffs. We're never going to get really high draft picks. We're going to talk about how great we are that we're just around the corner and seven years later we're still there. Just a corpse walking around looking for someone with a brain? Like it just feels like that for me.

Like it feels like the Js could be that. Especially because how the MLB is set up. I mean, if they don't get their crap together here, you could be a middling team in the MLB for a very, very long time. Well, and we'll go back to this. This is why you can't trade guys like Marino. You can't. You just can't. No.

There is no excuse for that. No. You should get fired for that. Yep. Every time. Me and Dost are firing you. San Jose. Draft lottery.

Good for them. Celebrini, if they pick up Celebrini, I mean, which... They'll still be awful, but they'll have one good player. The reason that it's great... Local kid, too, actually, drew up San Jose. Did he? Celebrini... He's from San Jose?

Yeah, he was born in B.C., but actually they... Did play hockey in California? Apparently. Born in B.C., move to San Jose to play hockey. It's interesting. They've been down in San Jose. That's where...

I could handle playing hockey in San Jose. That seems like a good life decision right there as parents. He's like, it's playing hockey. Let's move to San Jose. They were actually... His dad had come out and said that he was going to be living at home while he was playing in the NHL. And I can't see that happening, but, you know...

Can you imagine being 18 in the NHL making millions of dollars and living at your parents' house? Sure. No, I see problems with that. So do I. I think. I don't know how I would manage that very well, actually. You seem to be bringing a lot of women.

I can just see his mom being like. For me, I'd be living at home, but actually not living at home. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can just see his mom giving them crack because he missed curfew to go out. Yeah. No, see, that's what I mean.

Like, I'd be living at home, but actually wouldn't be. It'd be a worse situation. Florida. Game two. They came out and were the Florida. Well, I mean. So what's funny about game. one is they actually like Florida didn't play that bad. Swayman had an unreal game.

No, they knew that I had a chance of a silver coin. That's right. Anything to screw Jay. Jay's got a chance of silver coin? No, we'll give him the pink cup instead. Florida is an elite team and they showed it in game two. It's simple as that. Game one, Swainman had an unbelievable game. They played an okay game. Game two, they came out and just stomped them. I did like how the Bruins decided to come out and mess her up a little bit and an old Cache went after Pachianak. It can't beat that. No. Both coaches are. gave both players the green light, both liked it, right? It was entertaining. Did you see at the end of that fight, Kachuk never gave up?

Like, he was throwing as past, like he was trying to send a message. And then Pachan, too, his credit, get up and start throwing right back at Kachuk. You know, they're leaders on both those teams. The reason, part of the reason why they're so good is because they actually have leaders on both those teams. And you can see it with both those. Never mind that you still got Marshon there as well, who wouldn't be afraid to mix it up. Well, no, he was mixing it up there at the end when they kind of have that little Malae going on too. Well, because did you see when they scored that last goal?

Montura, I think, scored that goal, and he was beacon Marchan at the side of the net. And that's what started that whole mess. I would love to know exactly what he was saying to him. They were like, whatever, two feet apart. And Montour is licking, right? Like he was trying to lick Marchand for what he did. Man, you know, Marshan you would love to have on your team. But just playing against him, he would drive you.

Baddy. Who is the rat back in the day? Kenny Lindsman? Isn't that who he is? Or I was going to say Claude Lemieux? Or Esotikinen? Or Esot Teakinen? Someone like that.

Well, the thing about Claude Lemieux, I think Lemieux was worse. Oh, no, he was. The Mershan. For sure. But Marshans are the same. Teakinen maybe would have been a better comparable. I'm just thinking Linsman was. How many points did Tickinen put up in his heyday?

Well, I want to say he was a pretty decent player. Harley can look that up for us, I imagine. But so was Kenny Linsman. Kenny, Linsman put up points back in the day too. Yeah, well, we're going to see. So who do you think had more points in his career? Lindsman are taking it. I'm going to say Ticken.

Points in a season or total? Both. Oh. And in a playoff round. Or in a playoff season. Oh, my goodness. You just asked three questions. I got Harley on it here.

I'd say it's pretty close in all of them. But I would say at all those cases. I'm going to answer. I'm going to go teakening. I'm going to go teakening on all three. I'm going to go teak it in all two of the three, except for career. I'm going to say in Linsman on career. I'm going to say Linsman regular season.

But while I'll say- I'm going to say Tegan and all three. I will say both as a Tickenin and Linsman, and you can throw Claude Lemieux, although I think Claude Lemieux is more of an agitator than that. But all three of them weren't elite scores, especially regular season. As a Tickenin, 630 points, 877 games played.

There you go. It's a pretty solid career. So good hockey players. But not a thousand point guy. No, no, not an elite scorer. But they always, the playoffs suits them because they like to mix it up. They like to get dirty.

They like to piss off the other. their players and that's when they shone the most and i see marchion kind of as that same kind of guy on teakinen had the 80s the other thing is is teakinen had a tough job because he shadowed so back then they really used the shadow so so if they if they played a team that had a really so if they played a team that maybe you didn't have to shadow as much teakinar and get thrown up on that top line with curry and grexky in a way they go but if they had a team that let's say they're playing in detroit and he had a shadow eisenment he sometimes would play on the third line and that his whole job was out there every time I was out there and skate around with them.

Driving nuts. If you had a player like that on Vancouver, would you match them up against McDavid? I'd match a line up against them and say every time McDavid touch, one of you three guys, when they break out, just skates with McDavid. And every time he touches the puck, one of you three guys is hitting him. Every time for the first four games of the series.

I would just hit him and hit him and hit him. You just can't take penalties. No. Linsman, 860 games, 807 points. Wow. Oh, better. 1725 penalty minutes Teakinen,

177 penalty minutes. Okay. What about playoffs? Can you just look up playoff career? Oh, man. Come on, it should be on the same thing,

shouldn't it? Carl's like, you're the professional here, but. Anyhow, I remember the Oilers getting Lindsman at the tail end of his career,

but I remember him being that pest. Well, his nickname was the rat. Yeah, absolutely. That was his nickname. And he embraced it. Claudeonlin, you, I think, was different than the other two

because I think he was meaner. He was dirtier. Dirtier. Yeah, like I wouldn't consider Marshaun like him. But Lemieux wasn't really, correct me if I'm wrong, but you didn't notice Lemieux throughout the regular season. He was only more, like a playoff guy. It was weird because the regular season, he could go a season where he didn't even get 20 goals. And in the playoffs, he'd be one of the top.

In 1,215 games, Claude Lemieux had 786 points. Half a point game. Yeah, so it wasn't like less than Linzman. In a long career, though. In the playoffs, though, he was dynamite. Yeah, he was. And he would hurt guys. Oh, and he was mean.

That Detroit, Colorado with Lemieux and who is it? Wasn't that drapery hit? Yeah. But have you seen that? Claude Lemieux in 234 games had 80 goals and 78 assists in the playoffs. So his tick went up to 0.65 from 0.5. So he pushed. And how many playoff games did he play at the end of his career where you're not the same

players you're and you're at 234 playoff games that's a lot yeah yeah well they said last night Corey Perry I think that last night was this 200 second 200 I think it was 200 second last night most active inactive players right in the playoffs and Corey Perry Perry is kind of in the same vein a little bit he's just he was better regular season points he was a fit he's like Marchand Marchand

Marchand putting up big points in the regular season as well I mean Cory Perry won a no that's what I mean did he not But he's a goal scoring. He's a little bit of an... What's a goal scoring called? Rocket Richard. The rocket. Rocket.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And he's probably a little less of an agitator than someone like any Lindeman was or... I agree with Sean. I think Cory Perry's more in the Bradmore Shannon Bay. Yeah, for sure. All right, boys. Anything else before I let you out of here this morning?

We're going to talk about the other two series at all? Oh, yeah, I suppose we could bring up the Rangers Carolina. So, well, I mean, you look at the Rangers Carolina. This is the... This is the... Game three. You're never in trouble until you lose on home ice. But this is the risk that Emmetton has right now.

Carolina loses game one. All of a sudden, then they're in New York. Then they put up 50 plus shots and Schisturkin does. And then all of a sudden, they're down two. That was a heck of a game. Game two was a heck of a game. The problem I see with Carolina right now is like that was such an intense game. If that was the best that you've got and you still lose game two, man, that's got to be depleting.

Because that was a hell of a game. It does, but you don't lose a series until you lose one at home. So they come back and win one home and the series is back on. Well, and Carolina's not a team that's like this is new for them. No, they've been to the divisional and conference finals numerous, like five times in a row now. And they got arguably the best coach in the NHL or one of the best in Brindamor. They're deep. So, and you don't know a measure of a team until you get them close to that wall and start pushing on them because that's when they start fighting hard.

Colorado Dalles. But Colorado is up three rip. Yeah. Speaking of Litch. Speaking of Lich. Three rip. Yeah. That's a tough.

one. Colorado is got to be like, I love the Oilers and all, but watching Colorado, they got to be the most dangerous team in the entire NHL the way they play hockey. When McKinning gets going, and then McCar gets going, and all those guys get going, it is fun to watch. Like, they're,

they hemmed Dallas in. That first five minutes of the game was like they were all over them, and then Dallas came down, had a couple chances scored, and then all of a sudden they're up three nothing, but it never felt like Colorado was ever even remotely close out of the game. Because when they push, they push, and nobody can slow them down.

They're that skilled, that talented. Are you not hoping for a Colorado, Emerton? Yeah, wouldn't that be something? Isn't Colorado and Emmington kind of the same team? Well, I think they're the exact same team almost, except for, I think Emmeton has a touch more depth up front. Yep. And I think Colorado has that true number one defenseman.

Well, and they got the best defensemen in the NHL. And their goalies are about the same? Yep. So I think they're very similar, but Colorado's got that number one D. Emmettons got a little more depth. Which one's going to win? It would be a great series to war. Oh, yeah.

They both got to get there. They both got to get there. But it would be fun. Well, guys, now I need Vancouver to win one of the two games. This is great. Next Tuesday to give me the coin? Monday. Monday.

Monday. We're going to, after game one and two, we'll go Monday. And we'll know if Sean finally wins his first series. I will not be playing because I'm still on the injured reserve. But I'm very interested to see if Sean can get that monkey off his back. You know, I've been playing forward. and everybody's been laughing about it, but we've been winning. So I, you know, what can you do?

Shell, and heck, hasn't kicked me back to D yet. Sean, Sean, playing forward is like Jay playing forward. He hangs out at the far blue line a lot. What do you talk about. I don't hang out at the far blue line. What I do is I read the play and I'm your quick transition guy. Hang out by the red line dust. Hey, by the red line.

He comes past the red line once in a while when he has to. No, I don't know. Well, what's the sense of me rushing all the way back down for the play to turn over to rush all the way back? That's right. And there's very little rushing. There's guys that do that that are not very... Listen, if we were losing 10-2, you had to have something. But we won last game.

And, you know, our line did pretty good. And I go, don't hate... Hey, Dust. Don't hate on something you can't... Pink cup going everywhere. You know, so here... Talk with my hands. I will say this is that Team White pulled Bagnell out of retirement suddenly.

Yes. And that's changed everything. And he's kind of BS. Made it nice and easy to go. He's a nice puck game. Made it nice to just slide on the... front end if there's a guy hate coming down one-on-one against bang no bang no my guy's pass more well he's so long and everything even if I beat him I don't beat

no but those two guys are two guys I never beat really Sean back there no problem but those other two guys that's tough no wonder Sean's playing forward I don't like Harley back there because he's actually a little mean hi he's silent he's that silent he's such a nice he used to be such a nice guy but he's got mean in his own age a little bit like dad out there right really nice guy out skates rom-on skates the thing is is I won't let any of you buy me. I'll let a few other guys buy me. I will not let you guys buy them.

You know what? Hey, Sean. I let Sammy buy me one time and now I'm hearing about it for the rest of time. Can't wait to blow the doors off of them Friday. Well, that's coming up Monday. That's my first question because I'm not playing in the game. So that's my first question. All right.

Folks, we will catch up to you next week. Here is another edition of the Brothers Roundtable with a new edition of the Pink Cup. That I've already spilled. Yeah. You know what's funny? No silver coin. I'm going to spill my coffee. You know what?

I can't drink it on a pink cup next week because there's no way for me too to get last place. I'll be in the meaty middle for sure. No, there is. Same thing with Sean. Yeah, you're right. It's either me or Harley. Maybe I'll have to get three pink cups. If you don't win, you just drink it out of a pink cup, eh?

Who knows? Okay, boys. Thanks again.