Shaun Newman Podcast - #665 - Faisal Huda

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:53 the Tuesday, the Tuesday mashup, not like Monday is just, oh, folks, maybe I should just stop here while I'm ahead. I don't know what I'm doing. The mashup on Fridays is going to be, we're going to have guest hosts in, guest hosts in to take over that role for me for the month of July while I go on family vacation. So that's going to be one change. I'm not going to be a part of the mashup on Fridays for the month of July. Tuesday will still be there. We got some guest hosts. coming in. As for the podcast, it's going to go from four episodes a week down to three. So,
Starting point is 00:03:29 you know, right now you're going to still get a mashup. I won't be there. And you're going to have, instead of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you're going to have a change. It's going to be, I believe, Monday, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, there won't be anything coming out. That's just for the month of July as we try and, well, as I go, I enjoy spending some time with the family and here is I'm going to talk about it for this week but that's going to be the biggest change July here a few things coming that are going to be a little different than normal and I want to give you heads up to that now substack if you slide over to substack there will probably be a few things on substack just from the trip you know certainly I'm going to try and update
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Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm talking about Faisal Huda. So buckle up, here we go. All right, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Faisal Huda. We've been chatting now for a few minutes. I'm like, we might as just click recording and get this thing rolling. Sir, thanks for hopping on. Thank you, Rich. I just about called you Rich because we were just talking about it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Shout out to Crypto Rich. Yeah, shout out to Crypto Rich. I think I've been called worse. I think I've been called worse. Have you? I'm pretty sure. My name's a little different. And growing up in this part of the world, most people couldn't come anywhere close to pronouncing my name correctly.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Well, in fairness, I just got you to pronounce it for me so I didn't screw it up. Yeah, right. I mean, I can, I can simplify, you know. It's not fair. You know, we were just saying this is probably the first time we've ever got to really have a chat with no stress around it. You know, because to me, once you get on this side of the thing with, you know, this is what I do. Even if we're going to talk about some outlandish stuff or some crazy thoughts to maybe others, to me this is like a place where I'm focused and as you pointed out I'm not running around trying to
Starting point is 00:06:32 toss together events and on a game mode because the two times I've met you well the first time you reached out I was like okay this is this guy exactly I'm like who is this random do you know this guy and for the audience's background you you came to the cornerstone forum this year and then last June you came and watched Tom and Alex in Lloyd Minster so you've been to the bustling metropolis of Lloyd Minster twice now. I bet you that wasn't on your bingo card of life. Ever, ever. Never, ever. But, you know, you got to move across the country. You got to see what the country is all about. And, you know, Lloyd Minster is as much a part of Canada as Toronto where I grew up and, you know, fewer people, but different values, different mindset. And it's what makes Canada, Canada. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:19 I really don't like the direction that we're in right now where it's like the division that that gets sold by politicians and what did what did trudeau call uh call people fringe minority you know that's that's that's that's that's utter BS and nonsense you know the country is made up of every single individual and we need we need to listen to what everybody has to say and quite frankly i think the guys in rural communities i live in a rural community now i don't live in Toronto but i mean i am in ontario but the guys in rural communities are the ones who have their head screwed on straight yeah well in the my opinion. I tend to agree. I am kind of biased. But, you know, you roll through places like
Starting point is 00:08:05 Eminton and, you know, I mean, you kind of, hmm, yeah, there's some things going on there where you're just like, I just don't get it. Now, yeah, Alberta is an interesting dichotomy, right? Like, you've got, you know, the people that come to your cornerstone event or the first event that you had in Lloydminster a couple years ago, you get those guys. And then you get the guys that live in Calgary in Edmonton, you know, with mayors like Nenshi and Gondack and who's the guy in Edmonton? He's another Indian guy. Oh, man, that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I'm going to pull it up because that's... Yeah. I should know this. Amarjit Sohi. I don't know why I didn't know that name. Yeah. Yeah. Indian guy. And, you know, it's like, I'm brown, so I'm going to say it. I don't freaking care.
Starting point is 00:08:59 You get these, you get these people from the subcontinent, the Indian subcontinent, and I grew up in it, so I got to see it. I got to witness it. I got to live it firsthand myself. You know, it's a struggle when, so I'm 50 years old. So, you know, if you're, if you came over and if you were born in around the 70s and you were a young, young kid growing up in Canada, as, as an ethnic minority of the Indian background anyway, so I can speak to that with a sense of authority. You know, it was tough. You either didn't crawl out of the shell that you grew up in,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and you brought little your lunch carrier, your lunchbox was filled with curry, and you, you know, you didn't integrate at all in society, or you integrated properly, or you overintegrated. Those were sort of the three avenues. And I look at people like Nenshi, Gondek, and the guy in Edmonton you just mentioned. Sohi, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right? These strike me as the guys when I was growing up who would overintegrate, you know. And I was explaining this to Alex over breakfast the morning after the Cornerstone event. And he was like, you know what? That rings a bell back. in his home country, Croatia, they had people like that as well, people from outside who would just become more Croatian than even local Croatians. You know, they've got something to prove. They want to demonstrate that, no, we've embraced every single value you've thrown at us
Starting point is 00:10:38 without any sense of judgment between what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. And they're just trying to prove that they're more Canadian than even Canadians can dream up to be themselves. I don't know if that makes sense. It actually does make sense. I was wondering where you're going with overintegrate, but yeah. It's overintegrate, right? Like, whereas, you know, my family, I think, you know, my dad did a good job of getting our family to integrate. So I don't view myself as India.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And in fact, I have a lot of negative things to say about Indian culture. I mean, it's a beautiful country. It's got a depth of history, but there's a lot of negative things from that part of the world that are being imported into this part of the world. now on mass. But my dad did a really good job, a very balanced approach to integrating. So, you know, come Christmas time, it was a little embarrassing as a kid, but you see the value in retrospect. We'd go door to door around our neighborhood, you know, our immediate neighborhood, whatever it was, six, seven houses around us, you know, with a gift. My dad would buy a bottle of wine and knock on the door, Merry Christmas. Here's our, you know, here's our gift. They'd invite us in.
Starting point is 00:11:50 and this would be on Christmas Eve, right? And, you know, we chit-chat and this and that, whatever. We move on to the next house. And, you know, when it came time to our religious festival, so Eid is the big one after the month of fasting, we'd invite people to our house. And it's like, this is how we celebrate. This is what we do.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And it was just, you know, a balanced approach. We weren't ever taught to reject our own culture or celebrate it as, you know, these things tend to be celebrated today. day, you know, in the spirit of diversity. Now, we celebrated it in the spirit of integration. It's like, you know, we're here. We are Canadian. We respect your values and such, but this is where we come from. And, you know, you might be curious as to what people are doing, piling onto our house on this day, you know, cars filling up the road and we're having a big party.
Starting point is 00:12:39 This is what the party is about. So, you know, I view myself as Canadian first and foremost. And, yeah, I do have Indian background. I do have most. Muslim background, some of the stuff that we're going to talk about today, but, you know, I get just as frustrated, just as angry, seeing all the nonsense happening with immigration in this part of the world, Canada and the U.S., in the Western world as a whole. And that anger and frustration comes from the fact that I identify as Canada and what we've done to this country is just absolutely ridiculous. I don't think it's irreversible, but it's always easier to break things apart, tear things down, than it is to build them back up. So we got a hard slog in front of us. But, you know, I think one of the things that people of the West really need to get straight in their heads is that this part of the world was built on Christian values. And what those Christian values offered to the rest of the world is what attracted them to this place and to this part of the world in the first place.
Starting point is 00:13:51 You know, my dad came over in 1964, him and my mom was in arranged marriage. She came over in the 1970s. They came because of what they recognized that they could accomplish, what they could achieve in this part of the world. And those achievements were based on what Christian values had built and created, the opportunities it offered. So this nonsense of, you know, be ashamed of your white privilege or your, whiteness or your mailness or whatever, whatever attribute they want to make you feel,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you know, ashamed of. I mean, it's all utter absolute nonsense. And I, you know, I turn to my Caucasian friends and associates and they say, can you please shake your head clear of these cobwebs and stand up for yourselves? Because every culture does things. imperfectly. You know, we've all made mistakes, whether individually or collectively as nations or collectively as cultures, civilizations. It's nothing to be ashamed of per se. It's like if it's wrong and you believe it's wrong, fix it. Just don't do it again. But, you know, we don't need to unwind history because of it. And where does that game end? How far back in history are you going to go? In the end, it'll probably all turn out. It's like,
Starting point is 00:15:20 oh, guess what? We're at square one. Everybody's paid everybody off with reparations left, right and center and made up, made up for their past transgressions that look, guess, guess what, we're back at square one anyway. So it's just absolute ridiculous upside down nonsense that's taking place in the Western world. What do you think of the new term that they've been throwing around a lot? Generational fairness. Yeah, I mean, it goes to the point that I was just saying. It's like, you know, what is fair?
Starting point is 00:15:51 Life isn't fair. I mean, it's just the way it is. It's, you know, if the boomers, so it tends to be people pointing their fingers at the boomers and saying you milked our economy for everything it was worth and now there's nothing left for us. I get it. That really feels freaking unfair because the boomers are still around as well and they're pushing for, you got 80-year-olds in Congress in the U.S. and whatnot pushing for things that don't make sense for the next generation.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But it's like, you know what? Just stand up, fight and fix it. Fight for what's right and get it fixed. There is no such thing as fair. What are you going to do? Get all the boomers to open up their bank accounts and carve out 100 grand checks for all the Gen Zs and the millennials.
Starting point is 00:16:38 It kind of sounds like what they kind of want to do, right? Just pay your fair share. It's not that big a deal. Yeah, let's increase the capital gains inclusion rate and all this and that type of nonsense, but it doesn't fix anything. If all you do is cut checks, so to speak, to pay off the people who have been treated unfairly, what have you fixed? You haven't fixed anything.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Actually, you've probably created a worse problem. You've probably created a worse problem. And all of the best that you've really done, and I would argue that you haven't even accomplished that, is all you've done is assuage your own, you know, you know, nagging conscience. Great. Good for you. More self-centeredness. That's exactly what we need.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I said, can we just fix the problem instead of just focusing on you, Mofo? Right? Yes. It's like your, your conscience is nagging at you. So you want to, you know, increase attacks or make people pay a windfall tax on, on something. That's just, it's just self-serving crap again if you really dissect it. So no, there's no such thing as generational fairness because life is unfair and we need to fix these problems.
Starting point is 00:17:55 So if the next generation wants to stand up, you know, all the more power to them. They have all my support. Before we get into eschatology and going down that realm, I am curious, you living out in the east, right, around Toronto, that area. when you look at the liberals and um and peer polia what is the climate out there because you know i watch the polls and i'm not a great like at times i think polls are just a load of crap but at the same time you know uh i'm watching this and i go you know everybody i don't know maybe not everybody i would love to see the nEP just walk away from this like coalition thing and and just have an election and get on with life but you know that doesn't seem to want to happen ever so you know another
Starting point is 00:18:42 year we go before we get on our election. What do you see at East? Like what do you like, you know, like give a westerner your opinion? Well, I think when you at face value on the surface, I think the stereotypical impression of Easterners are more liberal, NDP minded and want to keep in place the government that we've got. That's on face value. But when you just scratch away a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:12 at the surface, I think you find that even that has shifted. It's not what it used to be as much as it used to be. So I was at an event on Friday night and a social gathering that I was invited to. I didn't know anybody there. I took my wife with me. We were chatting to chit-chatting with some total strangers. And one of them pointed out, he grew up as a liberal. He was strongly liberal-minded. And as Toronto tended to be, my parents always voted liberal, you know, when we were growing up. But, you know, he was talking about what he's seen take place over the last number of years and how it totally rubs him the wrong way. He's of a Jewish background as well, a senior gentleman who's, you know, quite wealthy, property developer in southern Ontario. And so he joined the Conservative Party.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And so he was pointing out that there is a... a huge by-election, a very, very significant by-election happening right now in Toronto area. It's called the St. Paul's. Yes. What are you? St. Paul's District or whatever the word is. It's been a liberal, liberal stronghold for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. For this, 26 years. Yeah. Right? And he was saying, because he's wealthy enough and connected enough politically that he gets invited to private events with Pierre Folli Ever. So he was chit-chatting with Pierre on a recent occasion. And what came out in the conversation, I don't know if it came out from Pierre or those surrounding Pierre, but he said that, you know, this by-election is a big deal because it's a liberal stronghold.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And the rumor is that if the liberals do poorly, if they don't, if they don't maintain that fortress, St. Paul's, Trudeau will be stepping down. So that election, early voting started last Friday and it finished on Tuesday. And then the real voting day is June 24th, which I believe is next Tuesday or Monday, if I'm not mistaken. So, you know, what he learned through that was the shift in that district and how strongly the conservatives actually doing in that district. So if you take that as a marker of where the mood is in the west, in the big cities like Toronto, I think the needle has moved a significant direction to the right compared to where it has been. But, you know, I think the liberals also do a really good job, the liberal NDP, of painting the picture, you know, come any election. You know, you see red and orange signs absolutely everywhere on every street. corner every front yard.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But apparently the reality is a little bit different in 2024. So let's see what happens. I don't know if it's true that Trudeau does plan to step down if they do poorly. I'm almost inclined to see him stay in his seat as prime minister until 2025. It's almost a little bit, you know, the devil you know rather than the devil that you don't know, right? You know, we've got our election. I think the movement behind the conservatives is extremely strong.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And I see it getting stronger as we head into 2025. To have, you know, who would step into his place? Christia Freeland. Okay, we already know her well enough. We know how nasty a person she is. But they could pull anything. You know, she, I don't know how the workings go when you have a prime minister step down
Starting point is 00:23:01 somebody else step in. But, you know, we know how bad it is with Justin in the prime minister's seat. We may as well just have him there until 2025, in my opinion. Although I'm sure the country would celebrate if he did step down. I was in Calgary for an injection of Truth Town Hall. That's Calgary Law. He showed out to Eric Bouchard in the group there for opening up that discussion through the UCP. a constituency of the UCP.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Anyways, I was in the hotel room one night or maybe the one afternoon, I can't remember now. But regardless, I haven't watched, I haven't watched mainstream in a long time, Faisal. And I flicked it on and they were talking about this election. And so I'm like, well, this is interesting. I kind of want to hear. And what they were saying was, you know, like the chances of the liberals
Starting point is 00:23:57 losing it because of how. big of a stronghold it's been is not impossible but they said even even if they don't have a strong showing right like even if they drop 20% in the vote yeah they think it's a signal to the rest of what canada is going to do and so they they they were talking weirdly you brought up signs they were talking about how strong the conservative sign game is yeah how many how many people out there have been uh supporting the blue which has been oh the conservative stop sign game. Okay. I was talking about the liberal NDP sign game.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah. And this was this was on. I should probably drive through St. Paul just to just to see. Just go look at some front yards. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious. I always find it interesting to get somebody else's perspective in Canada.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. You know, from the other side, just because you know, if all you do is read, you know, news articles and hear some different commentators talk, it's like, well, I don't know. Like, is it going to be a landslide conservative man? Or no, there's still like liberals everywhere. Because it's hard to know, I guess, for sitting here.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I mean, I'm sure the liberals still have their pockets of stronghold. But I think a lot of red zones have shifted to purple or full on blue. I saw a map the other day put out by a polling company, polling organization. And, you know, the country was way more blue than I have. had ever seen it before. Now, what's the accuracy in these numbers and whatever? We always tend to get surprised on election day somehow or another.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But, yeah, I mean, I have hope for Canada getting itself out of its situation. The problem with Canada, I think the frustrating thing, certainly for an A-type personality like mine, is we're just slow. We're slow to get things done. you know the way I was decided you mentioned I don't know if the camera was recording at this point or not but you asked me about who's the friend I brought up to Lloyd Minster the first time Joe Joe yeah I was actually just on the phone with Joe a few minutes before we started this call and I was lamenting to him you know the thing that aggravates me about Canada is we'll get it done we'll do the right thing but we'll be the last to limp across the finish line the rest
Starting point is 00:26:27 of the world will get there and then Canada will limp across the finish line. And, you know, the most salient example of that I can give is the whole COVID nonsense and just getting out from under the travel restrictions and the mask wearing and the lockdowns and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The whole rest of the world was, you know, turning a new page and Canada was just holding on to it, holding onto it, holding onto it, until finally it went away. It's like, yep, there we go. Canada, last to limp across the finish line. but you know the problem with with canada is there's too much of our population is concentrated in
Starting point is 00:27:03 these big cities and these big cities tend to breed what i call self-satisfied pseudo-intellectuals and they're the they're the ones that hold on to pseudo-intellectually satisfying themselves for doing the right thing for whatever the greater good or whatever nonsense they're spewing out they're the ones that cause us to be the last to lift across the finish line. We're not a nimble society in that regard, and I attribute it to these crowds in the cities. Eschatology. You know, I've, I listened to, well, the reason we, our circles get tighter is because of starting with Tom Luongo, then Alice Craneer, and then they've been coming on.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And, you know, and I find it interesting how these. you know, different circles seem to bump into each other now. Yeah. And because of bringing those men to Canada, then I get to introduce to yourself, as we alluded to right at the hop. Right. And, you know, it's what do you do? You meet someone and then you start following on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And then I started reading your thoughts. And I'm like, this is interesting. I've been thinking, I don't know when I started, when I started following you probably over a year ago. I actually probably about a year ago. And I'm like, oh, this is interesting. And I haven't stopped. reading it. I'm not sitting here saying I understand it all, but that's why I'm like,
Starting point is 00:28:29 I finally reached out. I'm like, maybe you should just come on the podcast. Yeah. I have a chat because I would love to just dig into this a bit more and, and, and well, get your thoughts firsthand. Yeah. So the problem with my tweets, uh, and I think most, most, most of Twitter is like this, sort of a stream of consciousness. And if you've ever paid attention to what, to the way you think, it's, uh, to the way anybody thinks the way our minds work. We're all over the map. You know, thoughts are just very random, right?
Starting point is 00:28:57 And so if you tweet as things come to mind, which is what I do, you know, it's like, holy crap, there's some interesting stuff in here. There's some real nuggets. But what the heck? How do I stitch it together? What is this guy actually trying to say? So I think this is the perfect platform, the podcast to get into it. So eschatology, because it's such a big subject.
Starting point is 00:29:22 you can come at it from different angles, I suppose. I don't know if you want to shape the direction. Well, I look at it this way, Faisal, I go, I want to do the most basic I'm a moron start. So I'm going to start with eschatology. What is it? And just like let's just create a little bit of framework. We have plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's not like we've got to race through anything. Okay, good. And I appreciate that because this is a big subject and to do it justice. You really need to take the time with it. So eschatology, in a nutshell, the definition of the word itself is the study of endings, the study of endings. So, I mean, you could have eschatology relate to anything, I suppose, if it's the study of endings. We could do the eschatology of the fiat currency system. We could study the end of it, right?
Starting point is 00:30:22 But eschatology tends to be a religious topic. And so as it relates to religion, and all religions have, I shouldn't say all, let me take that back. The major religions of the world all have an eschatological narrative, teachings, whether it's Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, pick another major religion. I'm sure it's true for them also that they have a discussion. of what happens in the end. So that's what eschatology is. And when we say Islamic eschatology, and the reason I talk about Islamic eschatology primarily
Starting point is 00:31:02 is because that's my background. That's what I grew up in. That's the easiest for me to jump into and figure out. But I have dove into a little bit of Jewish eschatology and Christian eschatology as well. And, you know, the first thing that I want to say about My view on eschatology is that it is not about the end of time. It's just about humans transition into, shall we call it, the last chapter of the book.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And that last chapter lasts how long nobody knows, or at least from an Islamic perspective, we don't know. because Islam doesn't say, you know, once the Messiah arrives, there's X number of years left. It could be 100 years. It could be a thousand years. It could be a million years. It could be a billion years. There's just no way of knowing. And, you know, because I grew up, sorry, I was educated in the field of maths and sciences, you know, I tend to take a fairly rational view on things.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And it's like, I don't see the world ending in 100 years. I see humanity killing itself off possibly by doing stupid things much sooner than the world ending. So if we can get our heads out of our butts and not kill ourselves off, you know, humans could be around for a very, very, very long time. Geologically speaking, I don't think there are too many things that really threaten out, threaten to wipe us out entirely. You know, you could have some great earthquakes. You could have a pole shift. You could have, you know, a new ice age. But I think our technology and our minds are evolved enough that we'll be able to survive that.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So I don't think humans are going anywhere off the face of the earth for a very, very long time. So this is not about the end of time. This is just the transition into the last chapter. And the last chapter of humanity is divined by some very broad characteristics that eschatology tries to teach. teach us. So that's what eschatology is in an nutshell. So when you look at today, right, where we sit in 2024, what makes you go, this kind of smells like, you know, we're walking into the final chapter, as you would put it. Right. Okay. So let just let me go back to the definition of escatology. I gave you the academic sort of definition. The way I like to explain it is,
Starting point is 00:33:45 Is eschatology, religious eschatology, is the acronym Fafo, Fafo. I think we all know what that means. Am I allowed to swear on the podcast? Sure. Okay. F-A-F-O for people who don't know what that stands for is fuck around and find out. And eschatology is the F-O part of Fafo. Can I just say that, you know, of all the slogans,
Starting point is 00:34:15 That one is like, is fantastic, right? I mean, like, you know, I don't swear a whole lot anymore. I should say it's a conscious decision not to swear as much anymore. I try and I fail. But that one right there, I'm like, that one's a good one. I'm like, I'm sure. The other one I like is Jim Cuncelor. I was listening to him on a podcast yesterday and he uses it very often.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Just fuckery. I'm like, you know what? That's great. I just love the way that rolls off the ton. But, you know, F-A-F-O, fuck around and find out. F-O is the eschatology, right? Tom Luongo actually posted a meme on Twitter, I don't know, a few days ago, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And the picture just said, to fuck around is human, to find out is divine. And that's exactly what it is. And so I retweeted it with the caption, and it's like, and that in a nutshell is exactly what eschatology is. is fuck around and find out.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And so humans have chosen, unfortunately, to fuck around for the very longest of time. It's been centuries and millennia that we've just chosen to fuck around. And so now we're going to end up finding out, unfortunately. And I just need to adjust my laptop here because it's overheating. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:45 let's get into the Islamic stuff. I didn't realize this growing up. I think if I had known this growing up, my life trajectory might have been modified a little bit just out of fear and anxiety. But according to Islam, end times actually kicked off right at the very end of the prophets, the Prophet Muhammad. So Islam is revealed through the Prophet Muhammad. And I'm going to say this, because I'm supposed to be a good Muslim. I'll just say it once. Peace be upon him. So Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his soul.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And for the historical context, he passes away roughly 600 and... 32. 32. Thank you. I'm somewhere with sitting there. 632. Just for reference.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. And so, So end times, you know, or the, yeah, I would, I would just frame it that way. End times kicks off sort of at the end of his life, right? So one thing, before we get into this, I just want to say a few things that I probably should say at the beginning of any conversation. Number one, all of this stuff that I learned, I've learned it for myself. I never learned it with the intent of going out and preaching or teaching to other people. So, you know, when I study for myself, I study to understand concepts and sequence of events and, you know, just to form an image in my mind.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I'm not the type of person. I'm not like, say, a Matthew Erritt. I don't know if you've ever interviewed him. Multiple times, actually. He's like an encyclopedia that guy. He can cite names and dates and I can't do that. It's why history was my worst subject in school. And it turns out that I just absolutely love history.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So when I learn it for myself, I don't learn it trying to memorize dates and names and stuff. So I can cite that, you know, the Prophet Muhammad died in the year 632. That's one of the numbers that does stick in my head. But by and large, you won't find me quoting citations from the Bible or the Quran, you know. like I won't be able to say chapter such and such verse such and such sure not right that's that's not the way I am the other the other thing I should say is that a lot of what I understand about Islamic eschatology comes out of the the really amazing work that's been done over the course of an entire lifetime by a gentleman called Sheikh Imran Hussein and if if this conversation today really sparks the interest of people, you should look him up. His YouTube videos, there's lots of them out there. He's on his website.
Starting point is 00:38:49 He's got a bunch of books that he's written, and they're all available for free in PDF format. But the challenge with Sheikh and Ran Hussein is, while he's figured out a lot of what Islam tries to teach from an eschatological perspective, he's almost always. speaking to a Muslim audience because he wants to wake up other Muslims and say, hey, get your heads out of your butts. This is what's going on. This is what your religion teaches. And so when he speaks to them, it's in a way that Muslims understand. You know, if you grow up in it, there's a way of the way that the preacher speak and it's like, okay, you're tuned into that wavelength. You can understand it. But as a Westerner, I can see that,
Starting point is 00:39:35 you know, it would come across as what the heck is. this what the heck is going on I don't understand he's switching from Arabic to English so fluidly that you might get lost and so I think that's a bridge that you know I can I can help build between what he teaches and you know to the Western society that I grew up in so we can do that in this conversation the other thing that I'd like to mention is that what I'm going to share is things I believe I have a very, very strong conviction in what I'm saying, but belief is not knowledge, you know Nothing that I say should be taken as gospel. This is what Islam teaches. No, this is what Faisal believes
Starting point is 00:40:20 that Islam teaches and Faisal chooses to believe it because it comes from what he considers to be credible sources, but the credibility of those sources need to be verified by any individual who takes an interest in the subject and right it's how does the saying go or how does how does um how does um trust but verify um can i just say i appreciate you you like to me that's how i approach every guest who comes on right no matter how much they believe in something right and the audience is they're sharp right i mean like there's people such as yourself sitting there listening going hmm yeah okay yeah i get it i you know And I always tell, you know, like never in the middle of COVID when I was bringing all the different doctors on. I was never like just take a doctor for every, you know, just because they got doctor in front. Like they're the smartest human being.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I mean, we've learned lots through COVID. And the more people I interview, the more that comes out and the more you realize you need conversation and people's perspectives to start to piece together the world. With Crypto Rich, you talked about layers and putting it together and kind of seeing it overseeing it to put together the puzzle. I think of like, I don't know, my father grew up, I grew up watching my father build giant puzzles. And I think, you know, trying to piece together what's going on in the world is a giant puzzle. So, regardless, I appreciate you saying that and letting the audience know that. Because, you know, I guess that's how I approach all guests.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And I think that's how they approach anyone coming on here, Faisal. So I appreciate you, you know, starting there. Yeah. And the last thing I'll say is none of what I have to share is intended to offend. anybody. You know, it's like, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and if somebody can prove that I'm wrong and show me what's right, I'm going to listen. You know, I'm going to say things that I believe very strongly that Islam teaches, and if I'm wrong, may God forgive me, but if I'm right, hopefully it perks people's interest and they want to explore further. But I think one of the most fascinating things about the study of eschatology, particularly then when you get into the other eschatology is Jewish and Christian. so just talking about the Abrahamic faiths.
Starting point is 00:42:39 The unavoidable conclusion, I think, for a logical thinking, rational human being is that it's one religion. It is one religion. It all teaches essentially the same thing. The reason it became multiple religions where Jews are fighting Muslims or Muslims are fighting Christians, whatever. I'll bring up the word, a counselor's word again. It's just human fuckery. It's the politicking and the power grabbing and the greed and the avarice and all those seven deadly sins of humans that have created the situation that exists in the world today between these religions. It is one single
Starting point is 00:43:34 religion and once you get into eschatology you go holy freaking crap you'll never unsee it once you see it you will never unsee it and that i think is one of the most powerful uh powerful things uh that comes out of the study of eschatology the other thing so our mutual friend nick at silver gold bull he and i were chit-chatting and we were talking about my first appearance on a podcast ever, which was the Crypto Rich podcast, and say, how could we, how could we frame things for an audience so that, you know, it's easier for them to grasp. And we're already 40 minutes into this conversation. But I may as well bring it up. Now, the whole point for me of getting into eschatology is to make sense of an upside down world. So ever since I was a tiny little
Starting point is 00:44:31 kid, much to my parents chagrin, I was always trying to figure out how did things work? What made my little new remote control toy work? I'm on one side of the room. I pressed this button and the car does this and that. So I'd take it apart and I'd never knew how to put these things back together, but I would try to get into the guts of things and figure out how they work, why they work. And then I'd pull them apart. I'd pull out the motors. I'd pull out the wires and I'd rewire my own things. and make my own things. And that's what used to upset my parents because they'd spend money on nice things for me and I'd go and destroy them all. But that's the whole point of me getting into eschatology. And, you know, I grew up with religion in the home. My dad, he was religious, but he had a liberal interpretation of religion, whether that's right or wrong, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:26 But, you know, I have some sort of familiarity with religion, you know, that we used. to pull down the Quran from the bookshelf every night and go through a little piece of it and then discuss it. And then on Sundays, once I reached the age of eight or nine, I guess it was, my dad would sit us down every Sunday morning and we would talk about religion and tie it to current affairs, geopolitics, basically. So, you know, I have a deep fascination for current affairs and geopolitics ever since I was a young kid because of the way my dad framed it. And so for me, the study of religion, particularly eschatology, is really a way to unwind and make sense this dog's breakfast that we've got in front of us, which is current affairs and geopolitics. And I think once you can wrap your head around what eschatology has to teach, a lot of what we're observing in the world starts to make a tremendous amount of sense. So, you know, that's where I enter, that's why I enter into the subject of eschatology.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's why I tweet about it because I think, you know, people like yourselves who read it and go, holy crap, there's something here. I think it helps, you know, readers who do. digest what I have to tweet, start to make sense of what we're seeing in the world and what we might expect to see in the coming months and years ahead. Well, let's jump into it. You know, you round off a bunch there, Faisal, and now I'm just like, okay, you're staring at the world. I don't know how far you want to go back with eschatology and where the world sits. Yeah. But by all means. So we were talking about, you had asked the question,
Starting point is 00:47:22 which I have not answered yet. Why sitting in 2024 are you looking around going, holy crap, this end time stuff might have some validity to it, right? So in Islam, we're taught by and large that end times, the process of end times started, kicked off at the end of the prophet Muhammad's lifetime, close to the end. I think it was a couple of years before he passed away. He had a vision, called a nightmare, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:47:52 and he woke up in a startle and he turned to his wife and he described she was like, whoa, what happened? What's wrong? I had a vision that Gog and Magog. So we're going to have to talk about Gog and Magog to some extent, but that Gog and Magog have escaped. They've, you know, found a way out from behind the barrier by which they were contained. And, you know, one of the major. signs of the end times in Islam is the fuckery that Gog and Magog commit in the world, right?
Starting point is 00:48:33 And in particular, the one major thing that they do that is one of the ten major signs of end times in Islam is that they bring, despite having been banished twice from the holy land, they bring the Jews back. to the Holy Land. Okay? So the Prophet Muhammad has this nightmare. It's around 632 and we can interpret from that that the process of end times has kicked off. And you know, it occurs to me, maybe this is why Islam teaches that the Prophet Muhammad is the last of the prophets in a very long line of prophets stretching all the way from the Prophet Adam of Adam and Eden. Adam and Eve fame all the way down through the centuries you end up with Prophet Muhammad and God has finally said you know what you just there is no hope for you people you
Starting point is 00:49:36 people of the Holy Land I've had enough you fucked around for long enough now you're gonna find it so he he lets the Prophet Muhammad know through this vision that yep I've kicked it off and now you can expect, you know, all of these prophecies regarding the end times to now unfold. So, you know, for me, the biggest marker of we are actually in an end times process, which has actually been going on for centuries, you know, with increasing intensity and severity, the biggest marker is the fact that the Jews have been brought back to the homeland by human intervention, by the intervention of Gog and Maga. So that's one of the biggest signs of end times.
Starting point is 00:50:32 One of the other big signs of end times in Islam, the way it's described in Islam metaphorically is that the sun rises from the West, which one can interpret to mean, like we know the sun rises from. from the east. But we can interpret that to mean that we live in upside down world. And boy, do we ever live in upside down world. When I was a business person, when I was a student, I did an internship in an investment bank in the city of London. Well, not in, so city of London, we can revisit that subject, but I should say not in the city of London, but in London, UK. I did a banking internship. Things already back then started to feel kind of upside down.
Starting point is 00:51:22 What was it about back then that felt upside down? So the reason, so I lived in France for a couple years doing my graduate studies. I did an MBA. And in the middle of that MBA, I fell into an internship at an investment bank in London. And so we can talk about London a bit here. When you hear people say the city of London, quote unquote, we're not talking about London, UK. What we're talking about is a square mile district within London, UK, which is a corporation unto itself. It's got its own police force.
Starting point is 00:52:04 It doesn't fall under British monarchy. It's its own entity. That is the city of London. My bank, the bank that I worked at, was in Canary Wharf, which isn't in that square mile. That square mile, when Alex Kraner says all roads lead to London, what he's really trying to intimate, and he can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think what he's really trying to intimate is that all roads lead back to that square mile in the city of London. And that square mile is very easy to identify.
Starting point is 00:52:37 as you're walking around the city you'll see these iron posts you know spaced out i don't know what the spacing is every two meters three meters whatever it is painted red black and white very pretty looking posts but that those posts map out the perimeter of the square mile so you'll be walking around in london it's like if you come across one of those posts you're like ah you cross the threshold now i'm in the city of london there's no border check or anything like that. It's made to feel like it's all part of the UK, but it's not part of the UK. Just like Washington, D.C. isn't part of... I was going to say, it sounds eerily similar, and I assume how they got the idea was for Washington, D.C. was off of what you're talking about. Well, I don't even know if they got the idea for it, or if it's the same people who engineer...
Starting point is 00:53:30 Sure. Yeah, sure, sure, yes. And the Vatican is the same thing, right? It's its own incorporated entity that... I don't want to go down that rabbit hole because that's a deep, deep rabbit hole and then we'll get lost off our main subject here. But yeah, so I worked in a bank. And back then, let's say the 10-year rate, I can't remember. It was like, what, 6%, maybe 7%, something like that. And as an intern, I was given these projects. And I had to model the pricing of the certain banking process. products based off of and so these are trading products really exotic crap that have long since
Starting point is 00:54:15 You know flushed from my memory about how to price options and swapsed and swaps vanilla swaps cross-currency swap blah blah blah blah blah blah I could pull up my old my old thesis paper and get into it But I was being asked to price things out at zero percent interest rate and then negative interest rates And this was back in the summer of 2002. I was like, I didn't know, I didn't even think anything of it. I just took it on as the academic intellectual exercise, trying to figure out what a negative interest rate meant and tried to figure out how to price it in logically and sell those products. And the bank wasn't trying to promote negative interest rates at all, but somebody higher up in the
Starting point is 00:55:03 higher up the ladder knew what was coming. and down the pipeline. Some backroom discussions between the power brokers of the world. So this is the direction that we're going to go. So the bank was obviously trying to get ahead of that curve and figure out what it meant, such that when that day did arrive, that central banks would push to the zero bound and into negative rates. What that would mean, they'd have been well prepared.
Starting point is 00:55:30 They would have been well prepared, you know, starting from the summer of 2002. So they knew, so what did, it's like 20 years advance warning. Yeah, call it 20. When did negative interest rate start? I was just trying to think about it was it 2021 or was it 2022? No, it's even earlier than that, I think. Was it earlier than that? I think so.
Starting point is 00:55:52 You can verify next time you're talking to Tom Longo. He's, you know, he's another one of these encyclopedic guys. He can pull it out of his head instantly. Or Alex Craneer probably knows as well. What we need, what we need is off screen, we need a fact checker like Joe Rogan. Denmark was the first country to impose negative rates on deposits held by commercial banks in 2012. There you go. So, yes. Well, okay, 10 years ahead. I, and then you think Sean first heard about it 10 years after that. That's how, that's how much I was paying. Yeah, entered the public consciousness sometime afterwards, right?
Starting point is 00:56:31 But anyway, so for me, that was really sort of backwards and upside down, but I didn't do anything with that. Sure. Until I came back to Canada in the summer of 2000. Sorry, January 2003. And that summer I started to get into, you know, trying to wrap my head around some of the observations I made while I lived in Europe. One of the other observations was these people don't work. And I lived in France on top of it, so they really don't work. and the country is like a jewelry box.
Starting point is 00:57:04 You know, I'm not just talking about Paris, which is where I live. We're talking about the whole country. I traveled in my little car that I owned. I traveled all over that country, every single corner. And the roads are all immaculately paved. The remote little villages are all pristine. And, you know, like that somebody brushed it with a little toothbrush. Every nook and cranny is spotless, weedless.
Starting point is 00:57:27 It's like, where does the money for this come from? when you don't work. Well, you know, you can go down rabbit holes and try and figure out if they're blackmailing the Vatican and this and that and those rabbit holes do exist, but it just boils down to one very simple thing. They're living off of debt. They're just borrowing money and living high on the hog. And then you learn as well about...
Starting point is 00:57:56 Faisal, when you say they don't work, what do you mean by that statement? Like they literally don't work. They had a, what was it, a 35-hour work week. And even then, they're taking lunch breaks that, you know, hour and a half, two-hour lunch breaks. Okay. You're in the office setting. So I had friends who worked while I was friends in the MBA program who used to work in offices. And they'd describe how things were.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And afterwards, I did business in France. You know, I'm a retired businessman that did. business all over the world in 67 different countries and France was one of the bigger ones and go and you have meetings and whatnot and there's not a lot of work really being done a lot of talk the French love to talk and they love to talk in circles but they weren't actually working and producing a lot of wealth so they were they were amassing a lot of debt and then you learn about the colonial system of economics and I don't know if it's called the CFA or the CFR the again Tom Luongo and Alex Crater have talked about this at good length in the past, but basically the CFR is a, is a, was a version or is a version actually of the French Frank that was printed and used exclusively in French colonies in Africa.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And just the way that system works, Alex Craneer can unpack for you and explain that. It's just pure theft is what it boils down to. We'll steal your resources. And at best, if we pay you, we'll pay you, you know, a buck for something that's worth a hundred bucks. So think about uranium extraction from Africa. And that's how they paid for their high lifestyle. And all of these glorious things that you find in France or in Western Europe was based off of either theft or extreme levels of debt. And what is extreme levels of debt but theft anyway?
Starting point is 00:59:54 So those two observations, negative interest rates and not working and living in a jewelry box really got me scratching my head. And that's what got me down this rabbit hole of trying to really unravel. How does the world work? And like I said, fell down a number of rabbit holes that I think are intentionally put out there to put people like inquisitive people like me, set us on the wrong pathway. but over the course of time and it took me more than 20 years, you finally get to piece it together and we had that aha moment. And for me, the aha moment happened earlier this year. I was off on a vacation with my wife.
Starting point is 01:00:38 We went away to escape the Canadian winter a bit. And I was out on a beach and all of a sudden this light bulb went off in my head. So I said, holy crap, all these puzzle pieces that, you know, they were just waiting to click together in my head. They were all just floating there. And then this one aha moment, all of a sudden, all the pieces fell and clicked into place. And it's like, oh, my God. Before I get to the light bulb moment, I am, I just want, I don't mean to pull you down a completely different train of thought.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I am curious. You know, I would say I'm very in very early stages of, I don't know, having like, holy, crap what is going on you know yeah and uh when you say you went down a bunch of different rabbit holes that are that are put out there to suck people like yourself probably myself and probably a whole bunch others in you don't have to explain them all i'm just kind of i guess i'm curious like when you go back and you look over the 20 years you're like wow i searched out x y z and i should have never done that yeah i mean you get into the so one really deep rabbit hole rabbit warren that i fell into was when I opened up the book and read through, and it was a painful, painful read.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It's a thick, thick book. It's called Holy Blood, Holy Grail. It's actually the book, off of which Dan Brown based his story, The Da Vinci Code. Okay. Right. And having lived in Paris, having lived in London, the Da Vinci Code takes place in those two cities. So, you know, I don't know exactly how I sniffed out that storybook. I read the story book and when I learned that it was based off of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, I bought that book and read it. And, you know, it just takes you down these things about like, did Jesus really die and did he marry Mary Magdalene?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Did they have kids? And was there a scroll hidden in some church in Carcasson, France and this and that? And you just keep poking away and digging away and say, yeah, I'm going to figure this out. I'm going to figure this out. Or another one that you can fall down into is the whole Freemasonry thing. And I don't, I'm not saying Freemasonry isn't real or whatever, but you can get so lost. There's probably truth in there. There's probably just enough truth to hook you and drag you down into the rabbit hole.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And then it spins you around and spins you around. And the next thing you know, you're just chasing your tail trying to figure this out and that. And you can't make sense of anything anymore. And, you know, that's why, again, coming back to Eschatology, I find it so compelling because rather than getting down, down, down, down into the weeds, you take a very, very high level view of, you know, where humanity is headed. And you heard me talk about it on Crypto Rich that, you know, I view eschatology as the final piece of onion skin or tracing paper in a huge stack of tracing paper.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And each sheet is, you know, Alex Kraner's contribution to a, discussion on history, Tom Luongo's discussion on economics and the debt system or, you know, the monetary system, all those different things that Tom talks about. And maybe he's contributing multiple sheets to the exercise. And then you get into Richard Poe and the sheets that he might contribute and Matthew Erritt and the sheets that they might contribute. And all of it, you know, if you shine a light through all that tracing paper, you start to develop this 3D holographic image, but none of it's really clicking. There are segments missing in the lines.
Starting point is 01:04:22 There are pieces of shading that are missing. And it's a lesson until you layer on that last piece of tracing paper. And maybe it's three pieces of tracing paper. Jewish eschatology, Christian eschatology, plus Islamic eschatology, only then that you can see that, holy crap, this holographic image is this. This is what I'm seeing. But if you fall down these rabbit holes and start chasing, your own tail, you can waste decades, which I did. I did. I wasted years trying to figure some of
Starting point is 01:04:53 this stuff out that they, you know, the teasers that go out there to, and I believe it's by design intentionally to, you know, confuse people. So, yeah, I don't know how we, how we started going, meandering down this path. Well, I pushed you there because I was, I was just kind of curious, you know, like one of the things sitting on this side, it's like, you know, where, what rabbit holes do you want to pull on, right? Or strings do you want to pull on in rabbit holes you want to pull on? What rabbit hole do you want to dig on? What string do you want to pull on? I don't finish my, my thought. And when somebody says, you know, over the course of 20 years, I pulled on a lot of strings or I dug a lot of holes and I found lots of them to be like,
Starting point is 01:05:38 oh, that was not where I should have went. I was just curious because I'm like, well, you know, it could be lizard people for all I care, right? Like, I, There's another one. Anunaki and all that stuff. There's another rabbit hole you can fall down, which I did, and spend some time in that hole as well. So I bring it, I'm going to bring it all the way back. Now you're on vacation. Lightbulb moment. You're sitting there and you go, holy crap.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Walk us through it. So like I said, light bulb moment, all the pieces fall out of hovering and they fall onto the tabletop and they all clicked into place. one of those major puzzle pieces was religion. And so why did I get into this religious stuff? Yes, I grew up with it, but once I left home at the age of 18 to go off to undergrad or whatever, I turned my back on all that stuff. That was, you know, stuff that I did to be a good boy at home and whatnot. And religion was the last thing I was getting into.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And then my dad, who I spent many, many years with very close. to after I came, well, even before I went off to France. So we had a family business and I was helping my dad with that for, call it a couple years and then got so frustrated of being, you know, good little boy, you know, I like listening to your interesting ideas, son, but let me show you how the big people do things, right? I got so frustrated I took off to France, didn't have the heart to, you know, drive a dagger through my dad's heart and say, listen, I'm never coming back to Canada.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I'm going to pursue my opportunities in Europe. So I made the difficult decision, came back, and from 2003 to 2008, worked very, very closely with him. So, you know, I had this relationship with my dad that when he passed away in 2008, it was very natural for me to go, well, what was my dad's life all about? And, you know, one of the key characteristics of him was his devotion to understanding his religion. So that's how and when I got into it. So after he passed away, I started scratching away at it. And along the way, somehow or another, I discovered this Sheikh-M-Ram-Ran Hussein guy,
Starting point is 01:07:48 who I've mentioned already. And, yeah, one thing leads to another, and these puzzle pieces start to float in your head. And the aha moment was centered around October 7th to 2023 when Hamas did what it did in Israel. right everybody's familiar with with all of that yeah so it centers around october 7th it centers around the very heavy-handed response of israel to that event and the one that really really confused the living crap out of me was when um Elon Musk sorry i've got another computer screen here
Starting point is 01:08:30 and it's i just want to have it up um was when Elon Musk was led by the nose along with Ben Shapiro, his little caretaker. Sometime in December, I can't remember it was pre-Christmas or post-Christmas 2023. He was led by the nose to Israel. And one assumed that because he was the owner of Twitter, Israel was bringing him and saying, listen, you own this big social media platform. You make sure that the pro-Israeli story is the only story that's being heard.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Don't let there be any anti-Semitism. Because that's the world we grew up in. You know, I'm 50 years old, like I said. And for 50 years, anti-Semitism has been the big no-go zone. Don't be critical. Don't question. You know, Israel is Israel. And we owe it to Israel to just nodder head.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yes. And then all of a sudden, you know, the script got flipped on that. Yes, some anti-Semitic talk had started percolating after October 7th and the response of Israel. But it wasn't until Elon Musk got home after that trip, that anti-Semitism, at least according to my social media feeds, absolutely exploded. And it got really, really venomous. And the number of tweets and social media posts that I see now about, we all misunderstood Hitler. I'm not saying we understood him or misunderstood him. I'm just saying you would never have seen anything like that ever growing up.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Certainly not in this part of the world anyway. So it's like, how the heck does that happen? And not only does that happen, but he doesn't get called to task on it. It's almost as if Elon was taken to Israel and said, you know, Shit's going to hit the fan in terms of anti-Semitism. We want you to let it fly. That's kind of what it feels like happened. I don't know exactly what happened, but I'm just saying this is my impression.
Starting point is 01:10:46 This was one cog turning in my head while I was sitting on that beach. You know, when it comes to Twitter X specifically, because that's where we both interact probably the most. And I think a lot of the listeners are there as well. Yeah. You're not wrong on the amount of stuff that comes out about Hitler and the Nazi symbol. And I mean, geez, like last night, I literally flicked it on for probably five minutes. And the first thing up was the symbol and what it meant and how it was, you know, on and on and on. And I was like, and then you get Annalina Berbach this week who's like, oh, yeah, the Ukrainians have just repurposed,
Starting point is 01:11:25 revivified the peaceful symbolism behind the swastika. I was like, what the actual fuck? It's like so maddening and so confusing. But anyway, as for, as for Elon Musk, it was November 27th, 2023 when he was,
Starting point is 01:11:45 when he went there for people who are like, have no idea that that happened. Yeah. That's, that's when the video came out of him in the, in the, you know, the gear here.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I'll even, I'll even, I'll even, I'll even do this for, for people who are watching. Cause I'll, I'll, So where are you doing?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Do a sweet chair? Yes, I can. If I can just figure out my life, you know, you'd think I'd do this for a living, Faisal. And then I go to flip it on and doesn't want to show it there. This is the tweet that I think was, you know, everybody saw it, right? Jacket on or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Is Shapiro, Ben Shapiro's got to be in the background there somewhere now.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I don't see it. I don't remember. You know, when you brought up Ben Shapiro, you know, when you brought up Ben Shapiro, I don't remember that. I remember this because you remember they were looking at where the bombs had gone off. And I believe in the bottom of the picture is the crib, right? I think it was right. I think they're trying to show them.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah, it could be. That's Netanyahu there. Yeah. And they took him to Auschwitz as well, if I'm not mistaken. I think they went to Auschwitz before they went to Israel. And I'm 100% sure. I mean, it might take a little more Googling later. but I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro was there as his escort.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I really feel like I saw some photos with Elon and Ben together with, you know. Well, I mean, this is where we got, this is this is why we got Google here. Elon Musk with Ben Shapiro in Auschwitz. Yeah. January 22nd, 2024. Well, let's just let's just let's just look after that was another trip. Well, well, actually, I don't want to say that now because I'll screw this up because it
Starting point is 01:13:28 come on. Maybe it was multiple trips. Maybe it was the same trip. I don't remember. But anyway, so it says on November,
Starting point is 01:13:39 this is the first headline. On November 27th, it wasn't Shapiro, but Musk's, by Musk's side, but Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But I think
Starting point is 01:13:49 Elon Musk and Ben Shapiro tour Auschwitz is later on. I think they go do it afterwards is what I'm seeing here. Okay. I think is what they're spitting out.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Okay. So at any rate, anti-Semitism explodes. Jew hate explodes. The way Tom Luongo described it once on... And I hate to hop in one last time, just so I don't skip by this.
Starting point is 01:14:16 The tech billionaire and owner of Tesla and Twitter, Elon Musk, has visited Auschwitz alongside controversial Jewish media personality, Ben Shapiro. And that was January 22nd, 2024. So November, so November is when he is in Israel with Netanyahu. And a couple, like a month and change later, he's in Auschwitz with Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah. Yeah. So less than two months after October 7th, he gets led by the nose to Israel and anti-Semitism explodes. And the aha moment for me was, holy crap, what if this is all intentional? and by design? What if the anti-Semitism being allowed to fly is a desired element of the current playbook? What if, you know, as Tom Luongo said, has anyone noticed how it's now fashionable to be an anti-Semite? And he's right. It's looking fashionable to be an anti-Semite now and to be hating Jews. And you've got the young kids on the campuses. Is it, though? I guess it.
Starting point is 01:15:27 some ways it is. Alex will argue that, I've heard Alex argue that, oh, you've noticed that anti-Semitism hasn't taken off. I think it really depends on which echo chamber you're standing. Because where I'm standing, it is absolutely, absolutely rampant. Okay. Well, because, and where I sit, if I go on to Twitter, there's lots of things rampant on Twitter where I'm like, oh, that's really weird. And if I take a step out to where I'm living, Now, obviously, you've been to the bustling metropolis, the Lloydminster lot. I just don't see it.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I'm just like, now, I'm in a different world because you've brought up the campuses, and if you watch the videos of everything going on on university campuses, there's a lot of strange going on there. Yeah. And it's highly organized and really well-funded. Yes, yes. And I have that. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I have that by, well, I guess it's secondhand information to me, but my younger sister, she's a prof at Columbia University. And she lives across the gates of another college in New York City. I can't remember the name of it. She's also a prophet Fordham University. It's not so prevalent at Fordham, but this college that she lives across from and at Columbia, her remark was, these kids are ridiculously well organized and clearly very, very well funded. Now, she succumbs to her humanity.
Starting point is 01:16:54 as I think we all do when we see dead babies, we can't help but, you know, feel some sort of anger at the perpetrators of such violence and she's one of them. But, you know, my takeaway from her is, yep, this is as well organized and as well funded as our conspiracy theorist minds might want us to, might suggest to us. So again, I think it depends maybe on which echo chamber you're standing in at the moment and maybe Alex has done a good job of surrounding himself with different types of voices and so the algorithms don't feed him the garbage that they feed to me. But I see a lot of people out there, especially in America, just pointing at the fact that look at all the Jews in our government, look at all the Jews in our media, look at all the,
Starting point is 01:17:47 you know, the old fashionable thing of pointing your finger at the Jews as the root of all problems. I tend to disagree with. It's Stu Peters and Alex Jones. Did you watch that interview? I don't think so. So it was a fascinating interview because normally Alex Jones, when he was on Rogan or when he was on Tucker Carlson, right? He's the bombastic, very intriguing, never on his back.
Starting point is 01:18:24 back foot. He's always pushing, pushing, pushing. Stu Peters went on. And Stu Peters is the one talking about the Jews. And Alex gets really defensive. And he says, listen, and Stu Peters keeps trying to say to him, I'm not saying all Jews. He's saying, I'm saying there's a specific sect. And this is where the Khazarians come in, right?
Starting point is 01:18:42 And that's the thing. There's another radical, Khazarian mafia. Is the Khazarian mafia. Could be true. Could not be true. I don't know. You know. And Jewish eschatology has something to say about that as well. well, which is super interesting. We'll go there. I hope we'll be able to go there today.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Well, I got time for you. All I'm pointing out with the Jew, now that you say it, I'm like thinking about it, and I'm like, the amount that, that anything Jewish was talked about in my circles and not that I watched a ton of Alex Jones or on and on and on, but you think about it. Um, when it comes to Tucker, when it comes to, uh, Alex Jones, stupid. Peters. Now, you don't have to love all these human beings, but that conversation is coming up more and more, not less and less. So that would trend in the way of now when you bring up the university campuses, you're like, nope, that is definitely there. That is in Canadian campuses as well. That isn't just something off in a far lost land. And so I keep interjecting here. I'm just trying to get my brain
Starting point is 01:19:48 to where, where we're at. That's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no problem. So, Puzzle pieces fall into place with that aha moment. The question is, what if this is all by design? What if the anti-Semitism and the Jew hate is a desired feature of our current chapter of the playbook? And so that's where then eschatology comes in because Islamic eschatology teaches that I'm just trying to figure where to, because I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the listening audience, and I really don't want to confuse the crap out of people. How do we unravel this one for the listening audience?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Okay, let's go back. One of the things that is discussed in the Quran is the era of King Solomon. And King Solomon led a very powerful kingdom, right? And, you know, skipping some of the finer details, he had power not only over the humans in his kingdom. And he was a benevolent leader, but he not had not only power over the humans, he had powers over these other dimensional beings, which in Islam are called Jin. Okay. And he was so powerful and he could make the Jin behave and not be nefarious and evil. and do the bidding of good. He had so much power that Satan, through his agent the Antichrist,
Starting point is 01:21:34 or what I like to call the false Messiah, looked upon King Solomon, his kingdom with envy. And King Solomon, even though he pleaded with God, made a request of God, please, after I pass, don't let such a kingdom, don't let anybody be able to take over my kingdom from me, or don't let such a powerful kingdom ever exist again in the future. Despite that request, Islamic eschatology teaches that an imposter steps into, steps onto the throne of King Solomon after he passes away,
Starting point is 01:22:14 steps onto the throne in such a way, you know, speaking in metaphors here, dressed in the same way that and appearing the same way that King Solomon appeared, that these Jin, these, you know, other dimensional beings, didn't recognize that King Solomon had passed away, that they weren't following the beck and call of King Solomon anymore. They were actually following the beck and call of this imposter, the false Messiah. So what it teaches us about the Antichrist and Satan's intentions is that they have a they have a heart on, so to speak, for dominating humanity, ruling over all of humanity. And obviously because it's Satan and the Antichrist, not with benevolent intentions in mind, right?
Starting point is 01:23:12 So this is what we know about the intention of the Antichrist. And then when End Times kicks off with close to the end of the prophet's lifetime, with the release of Gog and Magog, Gog and Magog are human beings. That's what you can understand when you read Islamic eschatology, study Islamic eschatology. These are human beings. These human beings act as, the earthly agents of the false Messiah, of the Antichrist. The false Messiah, the Antichrist himself being an agent of Satan. Satan's the one, the grand puppet master on the evil side of things,
Starting point is 01:23:58 pulling the strings, getting the false Messiah to do what he wants the false Messiah to do, in turn getting these Gog and Magog human beings to do his bidding, to ultimately fulfill his, call it lifelong ambition, Satan's lifelong ambition, which is to prove to God that humans are not God's superior creation. That's how Satan came about, right? Satan is a fallen angel. When God created humans, he commanded all his angels to come and pay respect to his greatest creation, the human beings. And the fallen angels led by Satan refused to do it. Satan said, There's no way. There's no way I'm going to bow to these creatures of yours. I'm superior. So off he goes, God allows evil to be created in his universe, so to speak,
Starting point is 01:24:50 because in Islam nothing happens against God's will. And evil is created. And the goal of evil is to subvert all positive things of humans. And what better way to do that than through this agent, the Antichrist, who basically then in traps and enslaves human in the, Antichrist system what Christian eschatology calls the beast system right so So we know the intention of the Antichrist is to or the false messiah is to to gain this kingdom over all of humanity and Islamic eschatology teaches that this unfolds in three stages okay and the way it's described
Starting point is 01:25:42 in Islamic eschatology is that we will feel humans will feel the effects. Actually, I should say it's in four stages. Human beings will feel the effects of the false Messiah through four stages. The first stage is where one day for the false Messiah will feel like one human year. So metaphorically, one day equals a very long time. The second day for the false Messiah will feel like a human month. From a human perspective, it will feel for us like a human month, an earth month. So still, one day is a long period of time, but not as long as the first period. The third day for the false Messiah will feel.
Starting point is 01:26:42 like a human week. For humans, it'll feel like a week. So longer than today, but not as long as a month or a year. Relatively shorter and then the rest of his days are like a human day, right? Which means that he is and so if you if you get into the metaphysics of it, right? You start to appreciate that maybe what the Islam is what Islam is teaching is that there are other dimensions that exist. There's not just our only dimension, and science has gone down this pathway and explored the idea of alternate dimensions, other dimensions.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And these beings from other dimensions, they live in a different context of space time, where a day for them, from our perspective, is a much longer period. And when they move into, I'm going to just call it a lower dimension that's closer to Earth space time,
Starting point is 01:27:40 you know, one day for them is now only like one of our months. And then they come yet closer to Earth. And one day for them is like one of our weeks. And then they enter into our space time. So we can actually see them, hear them, you know, reach out and physically touch them. One day for them is like one day for us. So this is what Islam teaches about the Antichrist. And so in those other dimensions, those first three days, those first three stages,
Starting point is 01:28:10 out of the total four, Islam teaches that he's not visible to you, but you can feel his effects. And the thing about the Quran is, you know, you really don't, you can read the Quran in isolation and you can get a lot out of it and you can be a good human being. But if you really want to get the absolute most out of the Quran, you have to be a thinking person. you have to be, you know, hardcore logical person, rational person, and someone who enjoys logical deduction. Because nothing is illogical in the Quran. And then you also have to be a student of history, of economics, of monetarism, of politics, of military strategy, of military strategy, all these types of things. the more other subjects you get into and learn about, the more sense the Quran makes.
Starting point is 01:29:10 So, you know, taking what the Quran says about these three stages, these first three stages that the false messiah is going through in order to come to Earth, arrive at Earth. And his MO, going back to that King Solomon story, his MO is about, I want a global kingdom and I want to dominate people. you know if you've studied history you get those two brain cells come together where eschatology and history meet and you go wait a second what was a globally dominant empire that ruled over humanity ruthlessly packs britannica Pax Britannica, you know, people say, I think if you go to like Encyclopedia Britannica or Wikipedia or something, they'll say Pax Britannica started in the year 588 when the British fleet conquered, destroyed the Spanish armada.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Okay, that might be one way to look at it, but the way I look at it is the British Empire really only started 100 years. what we call, what we think of, eschatologically, the British Empire, Pax Britannica, started 100 years later after 58. So we're talking now year six, sorry, not 58, 1588, dropping 1,000 years is a big error there. So 1588, Spanish Armada destroyed by the British fleet. 1688, you have the glorious revolution where I think it was King James, the second, let's say, was overthrown. And then these people in England invited over the Dutch to just, you know, come take over.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Take over England. And that's what's known as the glorious revolution in 1688. Within a few short years after 1688, I think it was 1694, the Bank of England was formed. And that's when you see the British Empire, Pax Britannica, and the colonial imperialist system economics take off. And you have this British Empire that effectively goes from 1688 to, what is it, when did World War II end? 1945. 45. Yeah. So, you know, more or less, 300 and some odd years, or 200 and some odd years. You know, let's just call it three centuries for argument's sake, right? And then, uh,
Starting point is 01:31:52 Pax Britannica folds up and it gets replaced by the American Empire, Pax Americana, which today we're looking at it and going, this feels like an empire in decline. And how long did that last? You know, call it from 45 till today, 80 years, roughly, something like that. So, you know, if 300 years of Pax Britannica is a day like a year, then, you know, one could argue that Pax Americana, metaphorically speaking, is a day like a month. And what can we expect for the next phase a day like a week? Well, Islamic eschatology teaches that and Christian eschatology does as well, and Jewish eschatology teaches the same,
Starting point is 01:32:42 that ultimately the false messiah, who is a false messiah, because he tries to mimic the real Messiah, creates a kingdom, a one-world kingdom underneath him, seated in Jerusalem, which we can call Pax Judaica. So we can expect then if the false Messiah and traversing
Starting point is 01:33:08 through these three stages hidden from view, day like a year, day like a month, then day like a week, we can expect Pax Americana to be replaced. by Pax Judaica. So, eschatologically, how does Pax Judaica come about? What are we told about what the Messiah and therefore what the false Messiah who's mimicking the Messiah will get up to? Well, what we're taught from Islamic eschatology is that the Messiah, you know, just putting in the layperson's terms, rescues Israel, whether it's Erits Israel, or Klaal Israel, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing those correctly, but Eretz Israel means Israel the nation.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And Klaal Israel, I believe, means Israel the people, the Israelites. Okay. So the Messiah rescues the nation and its people from the brink of extinction. From the brink of extinction, cleans it up, cleans out the evil and the nasty and the wrong within that society, within that nation. and from Jerusalem rules a kingdom over all humanity, a kingdom of peace and prosperity and, you know, all that good stuff that you would expect other than the Messiah. The difference between the false Messiah and the real Messiah then being that at some point, and you know it's Christian eschatology suggests it should be after three and a half years. because the false messiah's kingdom false kingdom lasts only seven years
Starting point is 01:34:55 and anybody who's good at Christian eschatology please you know reach out at some point say I'm right or I'm wrong but the false kingdom the beast kingdom in other words lasts only seven years and so he flips the script halfway through after call it three and a half years or just three years for argument's sake right
Starting point is 01:35:15 for discussion's sake so after three years he flips the script script and you know he's gotten all of humanity to embrace him and whatever because he's mimic the messiah and people believe oh the messiah is here let's embrace him let's celebrate let's follow him and then he flips the script and you know does satan's bidding and you know eschatology and imagination can take you where it takes you after that but how do you get to the point you know if you're trying to manufacture this because i believe this is all being manufactured you know I think this is all just human fuckery that's going on in order
Starting point is 01:35:55 to effect you know play out the end times narrative the eschatological narratives of Christianity Judaism and low and the whole turns out of Islam as well so you know if it's manufactured and you want to create the conditions where you can say hey look the Messiah is here, what do you need to do? You need to have, you need to create a situation where Israel and the Jewish people are under existential threat, where the world has ganged up against them and said, enough is enough. We've had enough of you, people. We're going to fix the problem for once and for all. You know what a, you've heard the term pogrom, right? You know what a
Starting point is 01:36:47 Pugram is. So Pugram is where people go out and they're in lynch mob Jews. So what I, you know, feel in my bones what's being cooked up is the Pagrum to end all Pugrams, the last of the pogromes. That's what they're, that's the climate that they're trying to engineer here. In other words, Armageddon. So, you know, let me let me get into a little bit of Jewish eschatology here. Jewish eschatology teaches that Gog and Magog exist, much like, and it exists in Christian ascotology, just like it does in Islamic eschatology. Gog and Magog are a nefarious evil bunch of people, so consistent with the other religions, and they are the ones who drum up a situation where they turn all of humanity against
Starting point is 01:37:45 the Jews and against Israel, leading to Armageddon, such that through Armageddon, Gag and Magog steal Jerusalem away from the Jewish people, and they steal it away for, you know, to serve their own selfish desires, whatever they desire out of it. Right. Now, if Gog and Magog are the human agents of the false Messiah, you could imagine that what Judaism is actually sort of pointing out is that Jerusalem will get stolen away for the creation of some sort of false kingdom. Right. Does that make sense? Roughly yes. Roughly yes. Okay. So that's why, you know, the aha moment for me earlier this year was, what if this is all by design? What if they're cooking up the scenario by which, the conditions by which the world jumps into Armageddon, right? What if Netanyahu stood up in front of the UN as he did not too long ago I think it was this year Tom Longo pointed this out in one of his video casts
Starting point is 01:39:24 not you know who's standing up there with a picture a map of greater Israel which includes huge chunks of other Arab nations falling under you know Israel being redefined as Israel in other words they're annexing the lands of other countries what if that is, you know, part of what they're cooking up here just to get the rest of the world angry against them to engineer this Armageddon scenario. Engineer the Armageddon scenario such that they can justify floating down. Again, like I said, I believe this is all manufactured. I think this is all part of still the FAA part of FAAFO.
Starting point is 01:40:12 It's still humans fucking around, you know, conjuring up. and deceiving the rest of humanity into believing that the Messiah, the Jewish Messiah, has arrived. Now, why would they want to do that? Let's go all the way back to the false Messiah, wanting to rule over humanity, you know, have an iron grip, hegemonic power over all of humanity, an oppressive power. Just read about the history of the British colonial system, and you'll get to appreciate what that means. By the mid-1800s, the writing was on the wall for the British.
Starting point is 01:40:59 They knew that their British Empire was in decline. They just couldn't sustain it any longer. It was too far-flung, too far-reaching, too expensive, therefore, to maintain. They knew that they were in the twilight years of their empire. along comes this guy from Germany, his name was Theodore Herzl. He proposes, and Alex Kraner did a great job of unpacking exactly what I'm about to describe next. So I would, I would, you know, if you're interested, bring it up with Alex at some point. So Theodore Herzl comes up with this idea.
Starting point is 01:41:38 It's like, well, you know, after centuries of persecution through all these pogroms in Europe, the Jews finally we should just get out of everybody's way once you figure out give us a homeland there were different places proposed he proposed the Sinai Peninsula he proposed Palestine which is where they are now which is what Israel became Argentina I believe was even proposed as the homeland for the Jews so he pipes up let's create a homeland for the Jews Let's get the Jews out of everybody's way. You can stop persecuting us.
Starting point is 01:42:17 We can live life the way we live. This diaspora, we were banished from the Holy Land. Too bad, so sad. But just give us a homeland for once and for all. He's just some guy out of Germany. He can't make this really go. He needs some political support behind this. Somehow or another, again, Alex will connect the dots for you, for us.
Starting point is 01:42:40 He finds somehow an audience with British MP. with British parliamentarians. And he describes the idea and the light bulb goes off in their head. Like, holy crap, we can get behind this. You know, this idea of creating a Jewish homeland, you know, let's call that a big sail on a boat. We can be the wind in your sail. Yeah, let's get behind this.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Let's get behind this project. Why would the British do that? You know, the way I see it, the British would be interested in a Pax Judaica because it gives them a for once and for all kingdom empire over all of humanity. Because if you read the eschatological narrative in Christianity or Judaism or Islam, right? Under the Messiah, you have this kingdom of peace and prosperity and everybody obeys and listens and everybody's embraced it as well because it's the Messiah.
Starting point is 01:43:45 You know, we've all been waiting for the Messiah to return for 2,000 years now. we've been waiting for the Messiah to return. So if we can float down a Messiah figure and get the world excited and embracing it, we can have our kingdom and this kingdom won't be challenged because it's the frigging Messiah. You don't rebel against the Messiah. Or if you do rebel against the Messiah,
Starting point is 01:44:08 nothing good is going to happen to you. Right? So I think that's what went off in the minds of these Brits. It's like, our empire is coming to an end. Here is a way to carve out and craft a permanent empire for ourselves, but we just don't have the time to go from where we are to, you know, Pax Judeica. We can't just go from Pax Britannica to Pax Judaica. We need a stepping stone. We need a placeholder.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Our empire is about to, you know, it needs to wrap up. And it did over the course of the next, call it 100 years, did from the mid-1800s till not. 1945, they wound it down. And over the course of what was a totally engineered and manufactured World War I and then World War II, which I really view as one big war with a breathing period in between, because it's like, holy crap, what are we doing? Let's take a break. Let's regroup and then continue the project. So I view it as one big war, but call it World War I and World War II. the transition was made handing the baton of global leadership
Starting point is 01:45:19 over from Britain to America. Now, there's a lot of ugliness that happened over the courses of World War I and World War II, right? A lot of death and destruction and terrible things that happened, including sacrificing all kinds of Jews as a part of advancing this project
Starting point is 01:45:43 towards Pax Britannica sorry to advancing towards Pax Judaica a whole lot of Jews were sacrificed in the process so don't think that Jews are the root of all evil They're just as much a victim of this nefarious Gog and Magog group We can try and define it a little bit later They're just as much a victim as any of the rest of us So we look at the course of World War I and World War II and through historical study we can see what happened and maybe we don't like everything that happened but we can find a coherent
Starting point is 01:46:19 cohesive narrative that shows how power passed from Pax Britannica to what would then become Pax Americana but Pax Americana was only ever intended to be a stepping stone a temporary useful entity to while while they worked on and cooked up Israel and now maybe soon to see greater Israel towards a Paxe judeica you know this is could I I want to make sure that if I were to summarize this and you can be like that's not what I said and I so when I when I when I hear you I go okay so it's not that in one breath it's not that these folks the the Pax Britannica to start with, or if that's the same group all the way through.
Starting point is 01:47:20 It's not that they're these, these devout, faithful people of anyone religion. Correct. But they could look at everybody and go, but all these people are. So then they take what the world presents and what they've created, and they're slowly manufacturing it down to when you get to Pax,
Starting point is 01:47:42 Judaica, as you're pointing out, so that they can then, continue to have control of the world. Exactly. But in a more like, how are you going to argue with Messiah, even though, I can't sit here and talk about the Quran, but I can certainly talk about the Bible. It basically just says there will be a false Messiah. Like it's not even, you know, beware, beware of them. So you're going, they're using, if I'm getting this correctly,
Starting point is 01:48:15 you're painting the picture of they're using this it's going to end with them bringing in the false messiah which they will portray as the Messiah even though the people who believe in Christianity, Judaism etc. The Quran
Starting point is 01:48:30 Islam they all preach that there will be a false Messiah yeah so there's some nuance doesn't that just doesn't that just doesn't that just smell like this is going to backfire really bad? Yeah but I think these people
Starting point is 01:48:45 are very crafty as well so i've got some ideas around around that so we can revisit that in a second but what i want to really highlight in what you just said is you know if i understood you correctly you're pointing out what i believe is accurate that gog and magog these evil people they're not a single nationality they're not a single ethnicity they're just a nefarious group of people right that take advantage of whatever they need to take advantage of in order to further their agenda, which is global domination. You know, if that's what you're saying, I agree with you. That's 100% correct.
Starting point is 01:49:29 And that's why I say, don't think that the Jews are the root of all evil. They've been victimized just as much as Britons have been victimized, just as much as Americans are being victim. Yeah, I guess I go back to whoever is pulling the string. at the at the center of this they you know the proverbial day they're using every everyone not exactly one and the thing that i i try and wrap my head around you know is like man why would you be driven to do that you know i just i don't have the same i can't get my brain into their brain where it's like you got i don't know possibly you got 20 billion and you can do whatever the heck you want
Starting point is 01:50:15 but you want more. It's like, man, I just, I don't know how to get my, my, my mindset into that. Count yourself lucky, I would say, because it means you're wired the right way. You don't want to, I don't think you ever really want to be able to say, oh, I really understand what motive it. Well, and you, and you're probably right with that sentence right there. It's like, I don't know if I really ever want to understand because in order to get my brain to where they're at, you've got to be really up. Yeah, you're going to have to go to some dark places. But you really have to be, you know, you have to subscribe to Satanism.
Starting point is 01:50:48 And Satanism's objective is to prove that humanity is inferior to him. Right. And so you're what motivates you is strictly the domination and oppression of humanity. Now, if you can wrap your head around that, as some humans have, I think you're going down. a really, really dark path and maybe just don't go there. Just be willing enough to be, let it be enough to just be willing to accept that that exists in the world. Yeah, and I might not, I don't know, I'll try and spit this out in a cohesive manner.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You know, like, speak from the side of Christianity and, and, and reading the Bible and taking what it says in there, implementing it in my life. and you know like what are the you know what are things that it tells you basically not to do while drunkenness okay let's just do something really easy don't drink too much
Starting point is 01:51:50 don't be a fool and um I could see where you could rebel against that I'm my best self when I drink I'm not gonna stop like and you could go out to try and prove the opposite and where does that lead you towards and
Starting point is 01:52:05 you know like to act like there's no I don't know what the word is and maybe you have a word for it. But like, you know, the story of Moses, okay? Yeah. He goes to Pharaoh, says, you know, basically let my people go. And then God gives him the power to show him like, I'm serious and I have God on my side. And what does Pharaoh do?
Starting point is 01:52:30 He has the magicians do what God's doing. I think it, you know, I say this over and over again. I think it's like, it surprised me when I was reading. It takes it till the gnats, I want to say, where the magician's, finally go, oh, that's, listen, Pharaoh, that's God. Right. So when it comes to Satanism, the thing that I, I don't need to go down very far is like, there will be power in that, or there will be whatever word you want to put in that. I don't mean strength, but you know what I mean? Does that make sense? Like, there is going to be something of sustenance there,
Starting point is 01:53:02 even if it is to the destruction of your soul. You will feel that. And it allows you to embrace the dark side of the world, which is, which is what the body wants. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm, it's, I'm, you're talking alcohol, you're talking, you know, food, gluttony, you're talking, you know, uh, uh, it's, it all comes out of materialism, right? Thank you, thank you. You're, you're, I'm, you're summarizing when I'm trying to spit out. And so, like, that side of it, I'm like, I actually understand how you tiptoe towards it. And then just like lots of things, I'm sure all of a sudden one day you wake up and you go, how the hell did I get over here? Because we're almost, you know, if I could use the word binary, I don't know if that makes sense. No, binary is probably not.
Starting point is 01:53:52 We're dualistic is the word, I think. We're dualistic creatures. We're both material. We exist in the flesh, right? Yes. We're material, but we are also spiritual. You know, we have this question of where did we come from? What the heck are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:54:12 Where are we going? Right? So those are spiritual types of questions, which we either try to answer through religion or we try to answer through science. I mean, in my view, science and religion are two sides of the same coin. There are different dialects trying to answer and ask and answer the same questions. Those three questions like I just listed. So, you know, it's if you get.
Starting point is 01:54:37 caught up in your own material nature, in your own material self, and you forget the spiritual side of it, the bigger picture of what it means to be, this sentient, creative being, God's greatest of all creations. If you lose side of that and you delve into the material, yeah, you can fall down, like you said, down these dark holes, these pitfalls set out for you. And, you know, that is the M.O. of Satan, right? It's just like, put all of these... Material, what's the word? Material distractions, material pleasantries out in front of us, lay it down and let's see what we stop to pick up. And let's see if we can't corrupt the human soul and slowly gain power over them over a period of time. And, you know, again, like I said, the false Messiah is an agent of Satan and Gog and Magog are agents of the false.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Messiah which means that they're sub-agents to Satan basically and that's what they do through and you know what Islamic eschatology teaches is that Gog and Magog are just this small group of people they're a group of people that over the course of time multiplies rapidly and they're essentially undefeatable we cannot defeat them they're too powerful the only entity the only being that can defeat Gog and Magog is the Messiah, the true Messiah, Jesus Christ. And Islam teaches that, which, you know, anybody who follows the mainstream narrative on what is Islam and whatnot, we'd be like, what? Wait a second. You just said, you saw my eyes jump. Yeah. I did not see that sentence.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Oh, wait, wait until I get to some other stuff. But, okay, so where are we? Let's bring it back Can I ask a question? I know you're going to deal with my brain now, okay? And so I apologize to everyone. But, okay, Segal, they structured in this way, Faisal, right? This is where they're leading it. You bring back your story of working at the bank and them knowing 10 years out, okay, well, this is what's going to happen if, you know,
Starting point is 01:56:57 and we can see what's coming, so we better prepare for that. You look like at a country like Canada or I think Western culture. Maybe I'm wrong on that a little bit. But I just see the detachment from the spiritual sense, right? Like in our society over the last two years, specifically COVID, you know, one of the repercussions of COVID was, you know, it led to the Freedom Comboi. And out of the Freedom Convoy, more people started talking very openly about God. You turn into Tucker Carlson now. It comes up so much.
Starting point is 01:57:31 It's not even funny. you Sean Ryan who just had him on comes up like nobody's business you listen to Joe Rogan he's breaching the subject or broaching the subject more and more and so there's two ways I can think about that one is your painting a picture of like they know what's going to happen when they do certain things and I would agree with that lots the question I have on it is so that they know the repercussion and I don't know if you could know but the repercussions of what they've done, like the bounce back, the Streisand effect, is that God's asserted himself in a way that I don't know if they could have understood what would happen, right?
Starting point is 01:58:14 The Freedom Convoy happens, sends a shock around the world, and now people are talking so openly about God that it's, that it's, can they control that? And when you talk about why, why are they allowed? Why did they bring must there? Why, like, why are they doing that? Why are they allowing this? That's a really interesting thought. I just go, now the world is talking more and more about God, more so than I've ever experienced in my life. And they were leading us further away.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Now it's like it's a collision course. And I would say that is by design. It's not an unintended consequence. There's people turning back to God. So, you know, one of the things when I've chatted with Tom, Yeah, and Alex as well, I think, yeah, I think in Edmonton, remember Alex's flight schedule and everything that screwed up or whatever? So he and I, along with Nick, got the chance to sit down for quite a few hours and just, you know, shoot the shit and chew on things and talk about, you know, all these big, big, big topics that we like to talk about. So anyways, one of the things that I raised is everything that's happening in the world is beyond absurd.
Starting point is 01:59:33 It is just new levels of absurdity, right? The whole COVID thing. I mean, it was so obvious. To anyone who's spending just a little bit of time thinking, it's obvious how absurd it was, right? This gender fluidity crap. The absolute incompetent idiot leaders that we have in the West, you're in Western Europe, America, here in Canada as well.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Just, you know, rainbow flags everywhere type of stuff. Ridiculous levels of immigration, you know, just drop all border controls and just let people in. The ridiculous amount of deficit you're about to say made free drugs. Exactly. Free drugs. Like on and on and on. You know, free drugs. Talk about that.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Unquenchable deficit spending. It's just, you know, it's just beyond absurd. It's like it doesn't take even two brain cells to be able to pick up on the fact that this is just gone off the rails totally. Tom Longo would appreciate this next metaphor analogy, but there is a principle in chemistry called Lusatelier's principle. Okay. So you got a chemical reaction in equilibrium. You got those things on the, well, this is, I don't know if it's backwards or not. showing up backwards on screen here,
Starting point is 02:01:08 but you've got things on the left hand side of the equation. You got the arrows that go back and forth, showing that it's in equilibrium with the stuff on the right side. The reactants are in equilibrium with the products. How do you create more product? Or how do you get the reaction dynamics to shift in the favor of the right? You add a bunch of stuff to the left. You add a bunch of what's already on this side in order to shift the reaction dynamics in favor of this side.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Perhaps a better, more easily understood metaphor is how do you make a pendulum go right? You make it go left. You pull it to the left. Because if you push it to the right, as soon as you take your finger off, it's going to go left. You know, opposite equal and opposite reaction forces. There's another metaphor for what I'm trying to describe. So the absurdity has been so, I mean, the volume has been turned up so high on the absurdity. Number one, desired outcome is get people to feel demoralized, depressed, fearful, oh my God, what's happening, right?
Starting point is 02:02:26 Number two, desired outcome from this absurdity is pull the pendulum to the right so hard, or sorry, Pull the pendulum to the left so hard that it swings to the right, that people go back to conservatism. And, you know, religion, the thirst for religion comes back up. Why are we sitting here today? Why are we talking about eschatology? Why was I thinking on vacation about this stuff? I'm just another human being, right? I'm looking at the world around me and going, this is effed up.
Starting point is 02:03:03 What the heck is going on? Can we make any sense of it? and you invariably turn to God. And you're feeling oppressed. You want to be saved from it. What does religion offer us? It offers us the story of the Messiah, who will come and rid the world of all the evil.
Starting point is 02:03:21 So it has ripened us not only to seek the relief from our oppression, number one, by going so absurdly left and woke and whatever. It has ripened us to seek out the relief from the oppression. that oppression, but it is also opened us up to saying, holy crap, will the Messiah just come? It's time for Jesus, right? Higalian dialectic. Problem, reaction, solution. You want the solution of people embracing whatever Messiah figure you're going to manufacture
Starting point is 02:04:00 and float down in front of them. You want that to be the reaction that they willingly embrace by themselves. That's the solution. you've got to create the problem to then get the reaction that has them run towards that solution once you put it out in front of them. That's how the false Messiah
Starting point is 02:04:25 gets embraced by humanity. And I believe that is what's going on right now. It's time for Pax Americana, Project America to get wound down, wrapped up. This is from Gog and Magog's perspective. In Gog and Magog, their seats of power are essentially the city of London, essentially Washington, D.C., and let's just call it, say, Brussels in Europe. So for people who've been following me for a while on Twitter, I want to make a clarification here.
Starting point is 02:05:01 There is a risk in oversimplifying a complex subject to make people understand. The risk is oversimplifying. And what I was doing, I was saying that because Islam teaches that Gog and Magog are the ones, the humans that bring the Jews back to the Holy Land, despite having twice been banished from the Holy Land, who was involved in bringing those people back to Palestine, it was the British and the Americans. I said, Gog and Magog. Making you think that Gog and Magog were two distinct groups of people, Gog being Britain and Magog being American. And I realized that no, I'm by introducing that level of simplification, it is actually going to be misleading because Islam teaches that Gog and Magog proliferate through the allure of wealth and power all kinds of recruits to its system of oppression and domination over humanity. Right. So it's not just Britain and America. I mean, they're everywhere. You could probably find them in China. You'd probably we find them in Japan maybe in Latin American countries what are Gog and Magog to then summer sum it up and put it into a little box Gog and Magog are all people
Starting point is 02:06:22 any people who are involved wittingly or unwittingly willingly or unwillingly in the advancement of this big juggernaut of a machine towards Pax Judaica you may have been a part of Gog and Magog. At one time, I certainly was part of Goggin Maygov for a period of time until I woke up and decided to do what I'm doing in life. You know, when I was working at that bank, that's the example I'll throw out. When I was furthering the cause of helping the banking system figure out what they needed to figure out, you know, I was part of that machinery, a very, very, very tiny small part
Starting point is 02:07:06 of that overall machinery. but I was part of that overall machinery that helps this system advance from Pax Britannica to Pax America, Americana, then on to Pax Jedeica, right? And I don't think once you're in as a member of this nefarious group of Gog and Magog that you're doomed for life, that you're destined for hell. I think you can find your way out. I think you can shake your head clear of the idiocy and realize that, you know, the world isn't just. about the material goodies that we can derive from it. There is that spiritual side. There is an afterlife, and we're going to be held accountable
Starting point is 02:07:49 before we get to enter into the afterlife. Right? So if you can wrap your head around that type of stuff, you can realize that, you know what, I don't need to be chasing all this materialism that exists in the world. But, you know, we're enslaved by it in some. respects as well we're entrapped by it it's it's so powerful we can't defeat it you know
Starting point is 02:08:16 we we go to jobs many of us unfortunately go to jobs just so that we can get the paycheck because we need to make ends meet we live in a debt-based monetary system which is what i call the single greatest tool of gog and magov single greatest tool devised was the debt-based monetary system right it's uh it enslaves you and entraps you and it makes you do things again like I say wittingly or unwittingly willingly or unwillingly that maybe you would choose not to if lo and behold the monetary system was actually asset-based and I don't want to get into the economics of why an asset-based monetary system is liberating and in
Starting point is 02:08:58 fact promotes free will whereas a debt-based monetary system works against and gradually extinguishes free will because you get to the point where it's like, you know what? If I don't play along, I'm not going to be able to feed my kids. I'm not going to be able to pay my mortgage. I'm not going to be able to this, that, or the other. Right. So where were we again?
Starting point is 02:09:26 Let's get the train back on the tracks here. You know, people probably laugh at a boy, because I keep derailing it. I'm just like, well, let's just go down this track for a bit. And then Faisal's gone, what is saying? I was trying to steer this train down this track and I keep jumping. Yeah, no, that's okay. It's all good. Yeah, so Pax Judaica, right, create a situation where we, Higalian dialectic problem reaction solution,
Starting point is 02:10:01 pull the pendulum so far to the left that it just wants to swing right. and the harder right it swings, the better off because the more we're be, you know, crying out for relief from all the oppression, the more we're willing to embrace a false Messiah. How do you get or the more we'll be willing to embrace a Messiah? How do we engineer it so that we can float down our manufactured Messiah? Well, let's just get the world. Let's let's let's tip the world over to ganging up against Israel and the Jews. And so let's allow October 7th to happen. You know, the most heavily monitored and well-guarded border in the world,
Starting point is 02:10:52 and that happened? Give me a break. Alex Kramer has talked about this to some extent in the past. Extensively. Yeah. Yep. So let's let that happen. Let's take a ridiculously heavy-handed approach for two reasons.
Starting point is 02:11:06 number one, we can grab more land slowly, slowly and work towards our greater Israel, if that indeed is what lies ahead of us. And number two, we can get the world to hate us and lash out against us. And we don't care because when I say us in that context, I mean lash out against Israel and lash out against the Jews, right? Let's get the world to kick off the pogrom that ends all pogroms. and who's the puppet master behind all of this stuff it's goug and magog who is gog and magog again i said let's put it in that little box it's anything and everything that works towards
Starting point is 02:11:49 advancing the movement forward that one last big click forward of that giant machinery that juggernaut called operation zionism zionism was never about finding a safe homeland for the jews after Hitler did what he did. Project Zionism, Theodore Herzl, he piped up with his idea in 1896. 1896, which is well before Hitler did what he did. 1897, the first world conference on Zionism in Basel, I think Basel, Switzerland, 1897, long before Hitler. The Balfour Declaration, 1917.
Starting point is 02:12:34 long before Hitler. Hitler was just another tool in this whole project of Zionism. And you can get into geopolitical stuff and the history of it all and Alex and Matthew Errett and Richard Poe. They'll explain it. I won't even try and go there
Starting point is 02:12:53 because I'll make a dog's breakfast out of it. But those guys exist and they talk about it all the time. We'll go listen to them. But that's my view on Hitler. He was a tool of Pax Britannica trying to transition, trying to number one, plant the seeds for Pax Judaica, and number two, transition from Pax Britannica to the temporary Pax Ameriata.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Okay. So this comes back to this Magog and Gag. Is that although anyone could be a part of it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. in a very real sense, there would have to be several key individuals, don't know the number on the key individuals,
Starting point is 02:13:43 I don't know how many of that be, that are sitting there watching the game board be played. Understanding the further it goes left, we're going to have a repercussion. It's going to come back right. How is it going to come back right? Well, here's a couple of ways it probably could. If we put in these couple things,
Starting point is 02:13:58 this is going to see this for there. How long is it take to get there? Don't know, but this is where it's going to lead. long does it take for the population but you have some people sitting there that are not beholden to any border essentially is what i'm what i'm getting at because they want to steer the human civilization to there and they're they're just looking at it from i don't know their playbook they're their their their game board i just i i envision a game board and they're just like well we want to steer it to there how do we get to there and then the
Starting point is 02:14:33 you know, steer it to there. How do we move the pieces? You know, this is where the anti-conspiracy theorists accuse you of wearing a tinfoil hat. They're like, oh, that's too impossible. It's too complicated. How could you make that happen? Well, it's actually really, really, really, really simple. Which Rothschild said it? And I'm going to butcher it, so let me just paraphrase it. I won't try and remember it verbatim. He says something like, I don't care about the laws. So long as I have control of the money,
Starting point is 02:15:10 I can make anything happen. And that's exactly how it happens. You just got to push the money in the right direction. Just make sure the money flows to the direction that you wanted to. No one's sitting in some ivory tower going, okay, we're going to this month everybody's going to start painting rainbow sidewalks crosswalks in their cities the next month we're going to start making all uh bathrooms and schools you know gender neutral they're not coming no one's coming up and micromanaging to that level there's all kinds of
Starting point is 02:15:51 whack job ideas out in the world courtesy of you know human beings you just got to make sure that the money flows in the direction that you wanted to. Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes its laws. That's the Amshel Rothschild. I'm probably butchering that name, but yeah. So I think this is where it'll start to resonate with a lot of people because you know, you said it at some point earlier in our conversation, the proverbial they, they this, they that, they whatever, right?
Starting point is 02:16:24 You know, some people refer to the they as the cabal, you know, talking. Longo's most recent terminology is the locusts. Other people want to say, well, it's all the Jews. The Jews are the root of all evil. Nonsense. Other people will say the banksters or the Davos crowd are the they. No, all of those people may form part of the they, but the they overall, again, I go back to is Gog and Magog, right?
Starting point is 02:16:57 the ones who are doing the bidding of this nefarious project to dominate and oppress humanity. So there's another quote, and Alex, I've heard Alex say it. Again, I'll butcher it, so let me try not to remember it verbatim, but in the end, So the quote is something like, in the end, humanity's fight is, the last fight of humanity is the fight against the banksters. So those banksters are definitely part of Gog and Magog because they're the gatekeepers to where the money flows. Right. And I'm not saying the banksters are all of Gog and Magog. You know, there's religious elements to Gog and there's religious leaders that are part of. of Gog and Magog. There are political leaders that are part of Gog and Magog. There are business leaders, corporate leaders. It's not just bankers and it's not just Jews. And it's not just the media. There's
Starting point is 02:18:03 all sorts of different elements that come into play. And how do you get these different cogs to turn the way you want them to turn? You just make sure that you lubricate the right wheel at the right time. And what is the lubrication? Money. So make sure the money goes in that direction. What does George Soros go around the world doing with his color revolutions. He just makes sure that the money goes to the right place. Okay, maybe he has to find the right people to give the money to. He's not sitting there micromanaging, you know, the protests on the campus. He finds the right jackass to give some money to and off it goes.
Starting point is 02:18:41 It takes on a life of its own. Yeah, I agree with, you know, what you're talking about with George Soros. I mean, you're absolutely right. He's not sitting there at every profile. test. He's just making sure where the money gets to, who it needs to gets to. And like you said, and then it's going to take on a life of its own. I, the life of its own is interesting to me, right? Because, well, there's just been, I take a step back and I, I take a step back and you go, okay, so they were going to push, go, go COVID. Everybody, you know, this is, this is,
Starting point is 02:19:23 this is the story of where I'm at, you know, the journey of where I'm at. They're going to push as hard as they're going to push and they just keep pushing and the more early push the stranger it gets the stranger it gets the more people start looking around like what the heck is going on if you're sitting there and you're going there's a group at the top it's using everything you just said gog me gog you put that to all the why did it allow why did it get to the point it got to well because you know they're in everything and and you can put it as the wokeism you can put words to it but regardless the funding went to where it is to push it down so that, you know, the media wouldn't report on certain things. And we saw that. The college campuses, the university campuses push certain
Starting point is 02:20:09 things. Sports pushed certain things. Everybody pushed certain things. And then there was this portion of the human population that went, this doesn't make any sense. And so if you're staring at that, you're going down the the chain of possibilities if you would right you're you're at this nefarious group level where you're like this is where we're going to push it to but eventually we're going to push so hard there's going to be this this portion of the human population that's not going to go along with this because listen stick the vaccines you know because i just came from an injection of truth these are pretty bad and they're going to kill a lot of people and there's going to be people get injuries and everything else. And eventually it's just going to become so
Starting point is 02:20:54 evident they're going to push as hard as you can, which means they're going to push back. It's going to lead us down the next path and the next path. But it does take on a life of its own. And that's a thing that I look at and I go, there's no way for them, I think, to completely know exactly where this is going. Just they're trying to steer it in a direction so that they can get closer to their end goal, which in your summary is Pax Judaica, which allows them to have the false Messiah, in their mind, the Messiah, so that people will be pledge allegiance to it, and now they, they usher in this world that allows them full control of it. It's an insane thought, not coming out of your brain, more so insane for a group of people to be sitting there going,
Starting point is 02:21:45 this is a great idea. It sounds insane to me. But I get what you're saying, I think. Does that make sense? Did I summarize it again? Yeah, I think so. It's a lot to take in. It is a lot to take in. And that crypto-rich podcast that I did, which was only an hour. I listened to it afterwards. I was like cringing before I listened to it. I was like, oh, God, I feel like I did such a poor job, muddied up the water for myself here. but I listened to it was actually relatively coherent surprisingly listening to it after the fact and I've had people reach out that have listened to it four times five times six times they've dedicated six hours to me listening to me talk and they're like holy crap so you know I think I think I think you're getting it I think I'm getting my message across properly you know what you're saying I don't I don't hear anything that I would say no I totally disagree
Starting point is 02:22:43 you got it wrong let me repeat myself here but let me let me go back to um let me just go back to jewish eschatology jewish eschatology teaches that uh gog and magog um will gang up against the will get the world to gang up against israel in order to steal to have armageddon and to steal uh jerusalem away from it but jewish eschatology also shockingly shockingly to me, teaches about the traitors from within. There is a traitorous group within Judaism that over the course of time and certainly through end times, colludes, collaborates, conspires with Gog and Magog and works against the better interests of Judaism. And they're the ones that work against.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Why does that shock you? Well, why it shocks me is because it actually opens up in Judaism the possibility of a false Messiah. So from a Christian and an Islamic perspective, right, we're all expecting a false Messiah. The first Messiah will be the false one. From a Jewish perspective, you know, the Messiah never came. We didn't talk about this yet, but I'm going to drop it here and point it out. You'll hear out there on the interweb people saying Jesus was a Jew. How the hell could Jesus have been a Jew?
Starting point is 02:24:33 So, you know, you get to this thing that over the course of time, these nefarious buggers, they try and redefine terms. If you go out onto the interweb and do some reaches, you'll find, Throw it into chat GPT for goodness sakes. Throw in the question. And you'll get the response back that, Israelite, Jews, it's all the same thing. Jesus was a Jew.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Jesus wasn't a Jew. Jesus wasn't Israeli. They were all Israelites. Okay? Then along comes Jesus Christ. He was foretold to the Jews when they were in captivity in Babylon. It was foretold through, is it Ezekiel? let's not try and cite those historical pointers facts because again I'm bad at memorizing
Starting point is 02:25:22 but anyways while they were in captivity in Babylon was told to them you will get back to the promised land and you will have the Messiah will come to you so they were all Israelites so just so I'm clear you said it was foretold to the Jews you meant it was foretold to the Israelites see even even I'm okay using it interchangeably when I ought to be a little bit more careful about it. It was foretold to the Israelites who were under captivity that you will regain your promised land and the Messiah will be sent to you. They, you know, history passes by Persia de Viz, Babylon, Cyrus, King Cyrus or whatever he was
Starting point is 02:26:07 called allows the Israelites to return back to their holy land, their promised land. and the temple gets rebuilt, etc. It's the second temple. And the Messiah, as promised, is delivered to the Israelites. Right? Half, I don't know if it was exactly 50%. I'm going to just say half for discussion purposes. Half the Israelites embrace and accept Christ.
Starting point is 02:26:37 The other half, the remainder, reject him. therein lies the definition of Christians and Jews. Those Israelites that accepted Christ are Christians. Those Israelites that rejected Christ are the Jews. This is the clarification that Islam teaches. Why is Islam such a, you know, reviled? I shouldn't say reviled. why is there so much
Starting point is 02:27:12 What's the word I'm looking for? Antagonism towards Islam Because Islam clarifies a lot of the horseshit A lot of the fuck around That humans have been engaged in Saying nah Jesus wasn't a Jew You all were Israelites
Starting point is 02:27:32 Half of you rejected him Half of you accepted him Therefore With that fundamental definition of what that fundamental fact that divines a Jew and defines a Christian, how can a Jew and a Christian ally? How do you have the Judeo-Christian alliance? What is that nonsense? That doesn't make any sense to any thinking, rational, logical person. Because the fundamental definition is opposed. Either you accept him. It's a binary outcome. Either you accept him or you reject him.
Starting point is 02:28:11 You don't make an alliance between the rejectors and the acceptors. There's some fuckery going on in there. And so that's why Islam warns against, and I'm going to try and get this quote right, take not as friends and allies those Jews and those Christians who are friends and allies of each other. In other words, the Judeo-Christian Alliance is a bunch of fuckery. Beware. Don't, you know, get too friendly with the Judeo-Christian alliance because it'll lead you astray. There's fuckery going on in there.
Starting point is 02:29:04 What is the Judeo-Christian Alliance ultimately? The Judeo-Christian Alliance ultimately is Zionism. Zionism, Operation Zionism, is a project of Gog and Magog to advance the world from Pax Britannica to Pax Americana to Pax Judaica, by which they will engineer such Pax Judaica by floating down, contouring up, manufacturing some messianic figure to save us from the oppression that we're all enduring. And that false Messiah, because he is a false Messiah, will try and mimic the Messiah, but will flip the script. And that's the trap that lies before us.
Starting point is 02:29:55 And that's why I tweet out, all this anti-Semitism and this Jew hate, wake the fuck up. Wake the fuck up. Okay, your humanity tells you that these people, the Israeli defense forces, the Mossad, the political leadership in Israel, or doing bad things to these Palestinians, especially these little Palestinian children and babies. Your humanity makes you want to rise up and say enough is enough. But understand that because Satan's MO,
Starting point is 02:30:36 Satan's objective, is to oppress and dominate and emerge superior to humanity, he is going to use humanity against humans. He is going to weaponize our humanity against us. And that is exactly the trap that's being laid before us right now. If we allow ourselves to be induced into kicking off the pogrom to end all pogroms, to allow Armageddon to unfold, then we are, leaving the door wide open
Starting point is 02:31:20 for the false Messiah to be floated down and for the world to say, holy crap, we need to put an end to this. Because Armageddon is not going to be any small joke, right? Call it Armageddon, call it the Great War, call it World War III, whatever you want to call it. It ain't going to be anything.
Starting point is 02:31:39 It'll put World War I, World Wars 1 and 2 to shame in terms of the horror that unfolds. And so it will ripen us. It'll make us perfectly ripe to say, oh, my gosh, here's a savior who's brought peace and put an end to all this horror, gotten rid of all the oppression in the world that's embracing. Right. That's the trap that I see being laid out before us. And that's why I tweet what I tweet about all this stuff. I don't know how much more I can handle on this end.
Starting point is 02:32:22 don't mean that in any bad way. You know, people used to tell me, stop saying your, your brain hurts. Well, folks, today I'm taking a lot in. So I'm going to say my brain hurts. Before I let you out of here, you said something that raised my eyebrows, and I just want to make sure I heard it clearly, when the Messiah comes again, true Messiah. You said it'll be Jesus Christ. Did I hear that correct? So Islam teaches this. So, I, I I just talked about how the Israelites, they bifurcated into the Jews and into the Christians. Israelites in the Quran in Arabic is referred to as Banu Israel, the children of Israel, Banu Israel. Once they bifurcated, the Quran stopped referring to these people as Banu Israel.
Starting point is 02:33:23 it became the one branch, Yehudi, the Jews, and Nisara, the Christians. I tweeted this out a few days ago, because I think it's vital for the Western world for Christians to digest. Annasara,
Starting point is 02:33:47 Nassara, Annesara, un being like the, translates into those that help quote-unquote those that help you win the war something like that if you read my tweet you'll see it properly we haven't we have a word in English for that it's allies so the Israelites bifurcated from an Islamic perspective the Israelates bifurcated into the Jews and into the allies the allies of Islam so yes we
Starting point is 02:34:30 believe that I'm going to further blow your mind here. Jesus Christ is a central component to the religion of Islam. He has mentioned more times in the Quran than the Prophet Muhammad. Prophet Muhammad is mentioned four times in the Quran. Jesus Christ is mentioned, if I'm not mistaken, 32 times. The most mentioned is Moses, by the way, but by, you know, in order to magnitude more. But Jesus Christ has mentioned 32 times. His mother, the Virgin Mary, has a whole chapter dedicated to her. The title of the chapter is Mary, or an Arabic, Mariam. Islam teaches not only is the true Messiah Jesus Christ, but when Jesus Christ, returns, what emerges is Pax Christi. Islam does not teach that Muslims are right.
Starting point is 02:35:49 Everybody else is wrong and Muslims will rule the world or have the most favored station with God. Islam teaches that when the Messiah returns, those who are true followers of Jesus Christ will be the custodians and the stewards of the kingdom of peace and prosperity that the true Messiah creates on earth, brings to earth. In other words, what I have put into shorthand as Pax Christi, Islam teaches Pax Christi. And Muslims are not followers of Jesus Christ. We follow the leadership.
Starting point is 02:36:41 of the prophet Muhammad. We believe in all the prophets, which includes Jesus Christ, but what Islam clarifies and tries to teach to the people of Arabia and to the Israelites that became the Jews and the Christians, is that Christianity got it right. This guy was the Messiah. He's coming back. There's going to be a lot of fucking around
Starting point is 02:37:12 by humans with their whole false Messiah thing, and then you're going to find out. And you're going to find out because God, at his time of choosing, will send down the Messiah, the true Messiah, to clean it all up and to fix it all up. And Islam teaches that the kingdom of peace and prosperity that reigns over the world under Jesus Christ, seated in Jerusalem,
Starting point is 02:37:42 That kingdom, the custodians and the stewards and the leaders are the true Christians. Not the Muslims. Not that we're going to hell or anything like that if we do what we're supposed to do as Muslims. That's not what I'm saying. But we place second fiddle to Christianity in this whole eschatological narrative. We are the wingman, the wing men and wing women, to what Christianity or to what Christ tried to bring to humanity or what God tried to give to humanity through Christ is the better way to say it. We are wingmen to that.
Starting point is 02:38:29 I appreciate you coming on and doing this. I know I've probably stirred up some form of, I just can't wait to see what the old text line does because every time I broach from, let's say, the direction people think I'm heading. It, well, it's interesting. And I always, you know, the last time I really, I guess maybe I'm speaking at a turn. Maybe it won't do anything.
Starting point is 02:38:59 But I remember stepping accidentally on Catholicism versus all the other branches. And it was two pastors, you know, well, it was a pastor who called out all Catholics and then, well, I mean, you can just imagine. The phone line went insane. And I'm sure there's been some things. said here today that have made some people very, very, very uncomfortable. And, um, and yet I'm like, I appreciate how you've approached this conversation, Faisal. I, uh, you know, it's like, once again, if we aren't pushing our minds to think about some things and talk about some things, uh, what are we doing? You know, I want to, I want to push. And what's going to happen? I hope is there's
Starting point is 02:39:48 going to be some people go you need to read this or you need to talk to this person and it stems more conversations it's only going to make this um hopefully better better for for myself and uh the listenership and and i don't know maybe if i take one step further humanity well that's uh that's the goal i guess is just get people to reframe how they're looking at what's going on around them make sense of an upside down world and chart a better path to for yourself and for your families. I think we're sort of past the point of no return on on eschatological stuff. I don't think we're, I don't think it's in our power to stop this locomotive. But we're not anywhere near the path, the point of no return for helping ourselves,
Starting point is 02:40:45 saving ourselves, our communities, etc. And I think that's what I what I'm trying to bring forth and bring out and, you know, to let the Western world know that, you know, the civilization that you've built is built on some tremendous, tremendously powerful foundational stones. You need to come back to it and you need to rediscover. your Christianity because that's where that's where the answers lie that's where the salvation lies so to speak sound like a preacher now but you know that it's that's where it freaking lies bloody well Islam tries to tell you that as well has to tell everybody that that's where it lies it's probably probably one of the
Starting point is 02:41:49 the hurdles my brain is trying to hop and it can't right now is for a Muslim to say Christianity, go to Christianity. I mean, if you're a Christian, go to Christianity. If you're a Muslim, discover your bloody religion. Stop, you know, the way I say it is, stop eating your biryani and kebabs and fucking praying in the goddamn streets, antagonizing everybody around. What the fuck is that? Okay, if it happens in Islamabad, Pakistan or something, fine.
Starting point is 02:42:26 But here in Toronto, I don't know if it's happening. happening in Alberta, but it probably is. I mean, that's nonsense. So if you're a Christian, go find your Christianity. The salvation lies there. And for Muslims, the salvation lies in your Islam and understand what Islam is actually teaching. It's not teaching the superiority of Muslims over Jews and Christians. You know, there's nothing wrong with Jews in our religion. It's those that have been corrupted there where something wrong is. And that corruption lies as much in Islam as it does in Christianity, as it does in Judaism, as it does in Americans, as it does in British, as it doesn't, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 02:43:07 So yeah, what I would plead to the Christians of the West is rediscover your religion and the power of it. Don't let them fucking burn down your churches and tell you that your whiteness is a source of shame and that you need to. This is where we started our conversation, right? something that you need to make reparations for or whatever. It's absolute nonsense. There is no such thing as fairness in life.
Starting point is 02:43:37 Life is a struggle. It's a struggle, again, of our dualistic nature. It's that struggle within ourselves between our materialism and our spirituality. And yes, we've done stupid things and wrong things. Let's not do them again. Let's recognize them. Make a mistake, but learn quickly from them and don't make the same mistake twice. Let's fix what needs to get fixed.
Starting point is 02:44:02 and we're not going to do it without understanding. We're not going to fix it properly and permanently if we choose to forget about our spiritual nature, our Christianity in your case, in your case perhaps, in my Muslimness in my case. And we're freaking allies of each other. Well, I just go to, you know, when you talk about people having to listen, back to things. I'm like, I'm going to have to go back and like listen as a third party, you know, listen to the conversation from outside. Because, you know, I don't know if this is true. And I don't know why this is in my head. But certainly the narrative is around you can't have
Starting point is 02:44:55 this conversation. And I don't mean that anyone's walked up to me and said, you can't have a conversation with Faisal. It's just from a religious standpoint, I feel like the temperature would be these two thought processes should not talk. And that was probably my hesitation right at the start. Right. Was whether or not, you know, are we oil and water, right? Is I going to sit here and squirm? Dave Collin said, I think he was on your show when I heard him say it.
Starting point is 02:45:30 Christianity and Islam are immiscible. And it's like, you're speaking, I mean, all due respect to the man, He's very smart, very well read, but he hasn't read the right stuff when it comes to religion. If he thinks, if he believes with conviction that Islam and Christianity are admissible, then he's got a whole world of shocking news coming to him. I tweeted it the other day, Islam is on course to have its ivermectin moment. What does that mean? Well, Ivermectin. It was treated as the poison, the evil. You're an idiot. You were on the wrong side of history if you were taking Ivermectin to fight off COVID. And lo and behold, everybody is like, holy shit, Ivermectin was the answer. Islam is the same thing. It's being maligned, marginalized, misinterpreted, misunderstood. And one day it's going to emerge as like, holy crap. All the animals. answers are right there. And it's not telling us that the Christians were wrong, not even telling the Jews that they're totally wrong. Like I said, what's shocking about Jewish eschatology is it leaves the window open, leaves the door open for them to even realize that their Messiah, who they float down as their Messiah could be the false Messiah. Because Gog and Magog are creating the conditions for our
Starting point is 02:47:11 to steal Jerusalem away from the Jews, what does that actually mean? It means the window is open that whoever gets floated down is the false Messiah, but the Jews won't see it, the rabbis won't see it, because their identity is we rejected Christianity. It was wrong, we won't listen to what you have to say, and we rejected Islam as well. They rejected the Prophet Muhammad. We didn't get into all this. I mean, we could talk for another five hours about all of this. didn't talk about Vladimir Putin and how he plays into Islamic eschatology. I think I talked about it on Crypto-Ritch, so you might have heard some of it already. But there's a whole lot more
Starting point is 02:47:52 to all of this. It's a very, very, very, very lengthy subject. But as you go through it bit by bit and unravel all of it and lay it out on the table for people to see, it is absolutely mind-blowing. You cannot look at the world through any lens again without how to have. having the lens of eschatology that right there to look through as well. Just everything makes sense. And the greatest relief was all of the anxiety, fear, or whatever that was rolling around in my head, all of it floated away. As soon as I had that epiphany in January this year, sitting on that beach in Vietnam, it's like, oh my God, I get it. It's all a big game.
Starting point is 02:48:37 It's a game that's got some various, very negative effects on people. People are dying. People are losing their homes. You know, they're not able to feed their kids. I get it. And when I say it's a sigh up, when I say it's a game, I don't mean it's not real. I just mean that once you see what's happening, it's like, ugh, I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:48:57 And now you can go out and say, now I need to see how many other people I can wake up and help. Well, I appreciate you hop on and, and, and, and, uh, being open with your. pleasure and yeah it's uh keep following me on Twitter and ask me questions if uh if they come up all right we'll thanks a lot Sean

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