Shaun Newman Podcast - #68 - Tanner Novlan

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

Born & raised in Paradise Hill SK he's been pursuing the dream of Hollywood stardom. Tanner has been living in L.A. since 2007 and has now guest appeared in Modern Family, LetterKenny & is recognized North America wide for his Liberty biberty commercial.  We discuss: - COVID-19 in L.A. - Watching Tom Cruise on set for Top Gun 2:Maverick - The grind - Bartending & watching Leo in action (DiCaprio if you even had to ask) - On set for LetterKenny - Liberty Biberty commercial Give Tanner a follow on Instagram @tannernovlan_

This is Dana Novelin and welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Hey folks, welcome to Humpty. Welcome to the Wednesday edition of the Sean Newman podcast. We got a great one for you today. And as I rolled out earlier this week, we're going to be doing a Monday, Wednesday episode while this COVID-19 has us all on lockdown and try and bring a little laughter, a little fun to everybody. I certainly enjoy doing it. So we'll keep up on getting an episode out here now twice a week.

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I'm now available on there. I'm slowly updating the previous episodes as we go along. It takes a little bit of time, but we'll slowly get those all up as well. Please subscribe. Please let me know what you think. If you're listening on Apple or Spotify, love it if you guys subscribe. Love it if you leave some feedback. It's always good to hear what you guys are thinking. Now, here's your Factory Sports, tale of the tape for this week. Our guest is born and raised from Paradise Hill, Saskatchewan. Now, what's interesting about Mr. Novelin is he, at a young age, went to Hollywood, L.A., and has been working on becoming an actor.

He's been there now for going on 13 years. He's been on the set for Letterkenny, which I think most of us know, modern family, and his famous Liberty Bibbirty commercial that is, you know, I was just talking to a friend of mine down in Minnesota, and he knew exactly who that guy was, which turns out to be Mr. Tanner Novelin. He's got some stories about what, you know, his early days, bartending.

He talks about being on the set with Tom Cruise, just watching them, shooting commercials, you know, hockey commercials with the likes of Crosby and Shifley, and some other really, really interesting stories. He's a completely different walk of life compared to what I've been having on with lots of hockey stories. This guy is trying to make it big in Hollywood, so I think you guys are really going to enjoy this one. Maybe you could show him some love on Instagram, Tanner Novelin underscore. You're going to hear just how follows in the social media world can really translate to bigger things for him.

So without further ado. The same of the wife, it's probably been, I don't know, easy 13 years, if not longer since I last saw you, probably high school. That's one. That's fucking crazy, huh? Yeah, it's, it's, it's insane how fast it flies by. Yeah, well, now you're in parenthood, so you'll see how fast it really flies by. Unbelievable. How many kids you have?

You have two, don't you? Three under four now. Oh, wow. We have one. She's eight months. And I'm like, I don't know how you do it, man. I, you know, it's a total time warp. Like, it's, that's what I can't go over total time work. Yeah. Um, they just, they're the consumer of everything in the best and worst ways possible,

where it's just like, it's all good, but like, my God, where does it go? It's funny as you have more, you'll find with one, you'll eventually, uh, it'll become easy. I swear to God, it'll become easy. And you're going to have the thought, we should just have two. Yeah. Well, what's a difference at this point? Just throwing them together. Maybe they'll entertain each other. Maybe. But then you're going to have two and you're going to go, why did I do that? Yeah, that's really true.

And then two is going to become easy and you'll do what I did. Well, what the wife did to me. You'll go, oh, we should have three. Yeah, all right. Well, two ain't that bad. Don't have three. I love them, but it's, it's, uh, well, you get the, you get the, the middle child dynamic, which is important in every family because you got to have

something to talk about at Thanksgiving like years later, right? That's right. Someone to pick on. Thanks for joining me, man. I really appreciate it. Yeah. Are you kidding? Are you going to jump in?

When do you want to jump in? I don't know. Sure. Right now? Right now? I mean, this is huge for me. You have me doing something during coronavirus help break, man. This is big.

Okay. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. I'm joined today by Mr. Tanner Novel. So thanks for coming on, man. Yeah, man. I'm happy to be here. I have something to finally do. Are you kidding?

How is COVID-19 in L.A.? It's insane. It's insane. It's scary. No one knows what the fuck is going with, am I love is far in here? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Sorry. No one knows what the fuck is going on.

Okay. And everyone's asking each other what, like, what do you think? Like, so the other day was like, what do you, so, so, how long do you think this is going to go? Like, I know anything. I don't know. And I was allayed to that, but first off, this toilet paper thing is ridiculous. There's no toilet paper. There's no cleaning of support.

wise. And you go to the grocery store, there's a line around the block because everyone's staying away. I've been in lockdown with my eight-year-old. It's, it's crazy times. This is crazy times. Well, I was thinking before I made this call, you know, like LA is what, four mill? That's not including probably the suburbs and everything. Suburbs is like 30 million people, man. Yeah. So Lloyd is like 30,000. So we have, we have toilet paper shortages, but what you're talking about hasn't even come this far. I mean, it's, it's crazy here. It is very, very crazy here. But the scale of what you're dealing with compared to here is two different. But it's like, it's like anything, though, because you're the kind of state, well, especially now you're staying in your little area. So you don't know what's going. But everyone, it's really funny. Because we do, we do it. So we've been really good. All right. We've been, we've been staying home as you should. should be. We're taking it very seriously. It's really interesting, though, because some, I've been talking a few of my friends with some of the, like the older generation who are really at risk with this, don't seem to be taking it near as seriously as us. Like my wife or

her mom was thinking about having a birthday party. And then I think my other friends have talked to they're like, oh, well, we're still going to church. And they're doing it. And I'm like, wait, guys, no, there's no social gatherings. Like, this is really. serious. What is going on? You're at risk. We're doing this for you. That's all over me because she still wants to have Easter. Yeah. So Easter's coming up. That's a big one. Yeah. We can't do it. We got to do the, we got to do the Zoom. What, what, uh, what, uh, what's the gathering limit right now for California or L.A? Zero. Zero. Zero. Nothing. You can't meet up. It's like a misdemeanor. Today I got a text message from the mayor. I don't know him personally. He sends it out to everyone, but there's literally an alert that

comes up and says everyone's got to wear face mask, which before they were like, if you don't have a, if you don't have to wear a face mask, it's not, it's not a requirement unless you're sick. So I'm like, okay, I don't need to get a face mask. Now they're like, wear a face mask. I don't know what's happening. So I'm just staying home. Well, with the, I kicked, I did for you, though, I had to kick the the baby out and so they're going for a walk. So that's good. So we do our daily walk. We get a little fresh air. We pass the neighbors on the street. And then you, you know, meet them and then you see them coming around the block and everyone's like, oh, okay. And you kind of like, am I going to cross? Are you going to cross? And then there's someone on their side. So you kind of walk

in the middle of the street now. It's okay. Cars just stop. You don't know what to do. So when you, but everyone's very polite. You just see like, hey, thank you. All right. Have you noticed that people have been more polite now? Yes. Yes. It's kind of funny. It's weird. It's brought everyone a little bit together as hopefully it stays that way because I mean if there was like a rioter or something crazy I lord forbid the home that doesn't happen but yeah man COVID it's it's it's crazy also I thought okay I'm at home there's there's literally nothing to do looks there's the work work stoppages for everyone and and you know I hope hopefully like it's a really tough mess for everyone so no one's working and so it's like well what do you do we're made to stay home I'm gonna I'm gonna do some

fun things. Like I was thinking, oh, maybe I'll, maybe I'll paint, you know, maybe, maybe I'll I'll, I'll finish that, that screenplay. I was, I was, man, I'm really where I got a new baby. I haven't been able to work on that. I haven't done anything, nothing. It's been three weeks of me literally in basketball shorts. And that's okay, I think. I think so. Maybe at a month mark, it might not be. I don't know. No judgment from this side. No judgment. Because the first week I was like, it's a little stressful. So everyone, I feel like, I feel like we're settling in in the house. The wife and I are good.

There's no, not a lot of fighting. When we do, we just blame Corona. And that COVID-19, it's just like we're just getting on our nerves. And so we'll either, hey, maybe we'll have another baby or we'll get a divorce. I don't know. It's going to be one or the other. Can't be both. Maybe it could be both.

Hopefully for the kids' sake. I tell you what, they were talking. What are some of the side effects of Corona? And that's two of the things. Divorces and there's going to be a huge baby boom in nine months. Yeah. And alcoholism. When are you allowed to drink?

This isn't just coffee, by the way, Sean. That's totally fine. You're allowed to drink. Five o'clock has become the new like 9 a.m. Right? Okay.

You're like nine? Okay. That's good. I try and do, we're trying because of the endorphins. I'm trying to get that like one workout in, which is really hard to do because like basically it's me outside doing like air squats and like a couple pushups.

And I'm like, All right, I can drink now. I got the workout in. I'm good. Mel and I, my wife and I have been doing beach body. I did it too. That's exactly, is it the P90X one? No, God, no, we did.

We're doing some like 21 day fix. Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we schedule it. I try, I hate it at night. But if I do it at night, I can't drink and then work out. So it actually keeps me honest. Oh, that's, well, yeah, I guess so.

But, it's no, I'm not. right now. Dude, I had that, I found those P90X DVD because we're like, well, shit, what are going to do a workout? And a lot of fitness class and all these is a big thing. And so, but a lot of them are doing them online, which is cool. But I was like, hey, you know what? You look in the old DVDs that you told me to throw away a thousand times. And I was like, you blow it off and pop it in. And, hey, 2007, what's the difference? It's still the same good workout and we're we're moving. Have you enjoyed being around your family a little bit more? Because I mean, I mean, it's been awesome. And like I said, my daughter's the eight months you're old. And so like

insane like bonding time. It's really sweet. And also kind of a gift in the sense that she's a total time warp. And so it actually helps the days kind of go by because she'll just suck the suck the time right out of you. You'll try and put her bed for two and a half hours. And hey, look at that. Day's done. She's sleeping through the night. Yeah. Yeah, she is. So she's good. We're lucky. We got a pretty good one. That's sweet. Well, Casey, our youngest, he'd be just past in six months. So we're a little behind you on that one. Yeah. Oh, God, you're in it, man. You're in the next level. I don't know. My wife's a superhero. She's from Minnesota. She, I don't know. She makes, she's pretty much got to deal with four kids. I mean, my three little ones in me, right? Like, I mean, she's in one.

Well, you got to get a good one. It's important. But, yeah. there's no there's no it's crazy like no so no work everything's been everything has been stopped um which is a bummer uh because i i signed a new uh a new deal for a show which was supposed to start in march so it's got pushed indefinitely so i can't we haven't even announced it yet we can't even talk about it so that's actually i meet back and maybe i can talk about that oh absolutely no uh when this shit gets sorted out we'll have you back on and we'll make sure we uh pump up whatever you're doing if i'm not gray by then my God. You know, I, uh, jumping to the end of my list, but the Liberty Mutual Commercial. Yeah. You know, crazy. Like, um, that crazy. Sometimes that happens, I guess. I don't know.

Um, was a very cool experience and has been like, uh, really well received, uh, which was awesome. And I kind of had a little bit of an idea, uh, that we were onto something because the writers were, uh, really active in it. And, like, really having a good time. But, I mean, it was just another, like, audition, another cattle call. I don't know, about 3,000 people, however many people they see. And, yeah, I just kept coming back. And then they were like, we're going to shoot. And so we shot at the back lot of Universal.

They were shooting a bunch of other commercials that day. And we had a blast shooting out. Like, the writers are so smart. Like, I wish everyone's like, oh, do you improv all that? I wish I could take right idea. I mean, we had some, like, collaborative. But those guys are so smart. And that campaign has taken off.

And I got a lot of opportunities from it. Absolutely. After that Modern Family called, they got to do a little spot of Modern Family rate and the nick of time because the show was wrapping up. I think it was like the third to last episode. So that was cool. So yeah,

it's funny how like a random commercial, especially I hadn't got to do a whole lot of work in like comedically, which ironically I really enjoy. Other than I guess I just worked on Letterkenny, which was kind of cool. Letterkenny was made you hitting in this part of the world, probably all in Canada, right? It's funny.

Well, not, I mean, it was just a quick little guest star, which was awesome. But I didn't really know what the show was. They hadn't made the Hulu deal yet until I think that that season that they were shooting was four. And I was working on another project and they were like,

hey, you know, this came in. I don't know, Letterkenny is. It's tone. It's this Crave TV in Canada, which I think was still just getting its foot.

And my agent actually told me not to do it. They're like, I don't know what exact of this is. This might be a bad deal. And I said, let me just look. And so I watched a few of the episodes. I was like, oh, oh, no, no, no. I, I get, it is Jared, Jared is puff. He's, he's Justin Hoffman.

He's the same person. I'm like, oh, my God, this is a mixed thing I've ever seen my life. This is, this is my world. Let's, let's do this. I don't know what the, what's the role. Let's like, oh, it's like, oh, it's like, really. I'm like, cool. Let's do it.

And I got to work on it for a day. And it was the seat. So I got to hang out with him all day, which he's a fascinating guy. And like Jared, those guys are so talented and all scripted. I was when I first went there because when you book a role, you don't really know what you're getting into in the sense of if it's going to be a quick spot. You just try and fold into the mix. You know, it's like getting called up on a hockey team. You're just kind of like, all right, I'm going to just like, let's not fuck out too much.

And like, let's not, they got something going. Let's just try and, you know. Put a little in there, but like whatever, stay all the way. And so I was thinking, oh, wow, these guys are, because they're so natural. They must improv a lot. So I got to, like, really know what's going on. Dude, all that fast pun dialogue, straight off the script. Like, those guys are gross.

I was so impressed. It was fun. It was cool one. Yeah, well, that one, I was talking about it with a buddy here earlier this week. And I was saying the only more Canadian show than Letterkenny is probably trailer park boys like that's the only that's the only other one you can do from canada also what's corner gas has got a corner gas yeah absolutely i guess i guess i should point out my favorites because letter kennie's it's it's it's awesome yeah that's really good so when you strolled in that one that one's

even the small part it was still cool yeah it was really cool just to be uh to be in there for well yeah it's it's it's crazy i mean i mean i mean now hopefully we'll see uh if we go back i'm working on a show called, um, Roswell, New Mexico. Yeah. It's on the CW. I think it's on CTV, uh, Monday nights. Nice little to us. Yeah. I think my, uh, I do like a little three episode arc, uh, on there that's coming up. And then, uh, hopefully we'll see. I'm going to be able to come back for the next season. So, um, that one's, that one's going to be really cool. I'm really proud of that one, too. Well, the reason I wanted to have you on is a lot of the stuff you're talking about is like kick ass. But for me, I always go back to, you know, whatever guy it is.

I always curious how you got your start. And for you, we went to high school together, but I don't ever remember. And believe me, there's some foggy patches back then. But I don't ever remember you going like, I'm going L.A., and that's what I'm going to do. And like, I was curious, like, man, you go from a town of Paradise Hill, which is what, 500 people, 700 people, somewhere in that range, to, packing up, going to L.A., and I mean, fuck, Saskatchewan is damn you're double the size of California, let alone L.A., but there's what,

one million people in Saskatchewan. You go to L.A., which has got millions. California's got like 40 million. Like, that's culture shock, I guess, is where I go. And it's not like you're going down there to, and maybe you can explain that a little better. From my eyes, standing on the sidelines, it wasn't like you went down there and had 50 actors you knew and you just topped in and now you're

you know complete no idea what I'm doing still know what I'm doing it's like it was um I mean I never intended really it kind of found me in a sense of um when I moved here it really was just because there was like a small opportunity I never took it seriously I wasn't you're right I never had any ambition to like be an actor I also think that's it's like it's like it's like Like it's kind of a certain type of person. And if you are the person, that's fine. But there's a bit of, um, there's actors of egos. And they're like, I'm, I'm not person.

I'm the star. I'm the, and I never, I don't know if like too much humility was built into me. And I was, so even when I was here, uh, that was really never that feeling. But, um, the storytelling aspect was always, um, interesting. And I guess I would always make like, we would do like a lot of like, weekboarding or like snowboarding and we'd always like video that or like do stupid um makes little silly videos and i remember i'd like always edit those videos and put music behind it and like i really like love that aspect but you're right where where i grew up and where we grew up and and you know

the world that we were in like that kind of profession really didn't exist or it was just kind of a hobby or a pastime and so i started doing like print work was the number like uh opportunity and I was like, oh, I could maybe like make some money for this, but the main thing was just to get a U.S. citizenship. And so they were like, hey, you could come to Los Times. I had actually an opportunity to go to Vancouver. In hindsight, I kind of wish I would have because it would have been able to get a little more established, I think, in a smaller market. Then you're right moving to L.A. And not knowing one person, I hadn't known one person.

We had family friends in Ontario. So we had family friends in Ontario, which is a suburb of L.A. that's about an hour away. Okay. And I was like, oh, there was gracious. They were like a bill of family. I moved in with them. I worked under the table.

He sells Scott family. sells New Holland construction equipment. And my dad. Oh, okay. Yeah. And all of those sales agriculture equipment. So they're old family friends. And so they're like, yeah, you get your papers process, which, by the way, took a year. So for an entire year, I just like fixed, like, tracos and stuff like that.

And he let me live at his house. and fed me and hung up with the family. And then like two or three times a week, I would drive and go to acting class in L.A. And so that for me was really important in the sense of, you're right. It was insane culture shock. I was so overwhelmed. Like I was scared to drive on the freeway.

I still had my red lightning. I still had my red lightning. You had the red light? I still have it. I think it's like a time capsule, man. But I would drive every day. And that's when I was like, this is nothing like I've ever done before.

This is transfer. And that's when I got like the bug. And then my papers came and I had representation who like, you know, whatever you find your people kind of, you go through that at that time. It wasn't necessarily the other than you. But he sent me on an audition and it was a T.J. Max back to school commercial,

like national commercial. So what is, so what is? an audition like for me the the pigeon sitting back at so you get your phone goes off and you're just like hey there's an opportunity at 1230 this is the address uh they give you a slight little synopsis so like what the commercial is and they tell you what to wear and a lot of time they don't even really give you a full description of the synops because they don't want you to share with anyone so they just tell you in the room and you're there like and you walk in the room and they're like all right you two

are a married couple uh you're you're shopping and whatever, you know, this is the relationship and they maybe a little bit of sides and they put on the other than you do your little spot with the random girl that you just mad as your wife and then you leave. And there is a thousand people they see for that. So it's, it is a numbers game, but you're also, it's kind of, as I've like been doing it a long time, it's always kind of just like meant to be your project or not. It's like just kind of happens and you just got to be good with that. You know, like there's no, there's little tricks like you can be a professional and you can you don't want to be green, which I was extremely green for a long time. And like I,

you just have to learn. There's no you could take schooling, but I kind of had to learn. I learned it on the on the fly. And that's honestly why it's probably taking me so long to work. It just, so what were you trying to do like when you were going to acting class? What were you trying to, I mean, besides trying to pick up everything, what was when you looked back on that time? What Were you trying to pull out of it? Like I still take it. I still take it. I think you can always learn. And also you go through different techniques.

So like the acting technique that I first started wasn't necessarily right for me. And it took me a long time to bounce around and try different techniques that kind of click with you. And all you're trying to do is create a real life, live character. Like you're just trying to get into that world. But honestly, Sean, the actors talking about the process is the most boring thing ever. I mean, let's, my God. It's like, whatever. But the projects are crazy.

And then so I would work here, there, like, it did. Also, like, literally not knowing what I was doing, just winging shit. And just, I don't know, like, kind of fearless in a way, but also very self-conscious. Because it didn't feel like I belonged. Because I, like, it's a whole world where I've always felt, like, out of place still. You feel that way, you know? And you get a little bit of confidence as you keep going. like I'm doing this a lot like 12,

2000, yeah, 12, 13 years. Like, that's insane. But it just, it takes a while to get that. And it took me a lot of baby steps. But like some crazy, like music videos. I shot a bunch of music videos. There was this one. I remember, I think,

it's like a British artist or something like that. She was really hot. And they were like, you're gonna, um, it was another audition or whatever. You're like, you're a surfer. And I'm like, can you surf? And I was like, well, I can, like, wake surf like you know like you behind the boat i did that but i could probably surf they could

tell you make it right so i'm like okay let's do yeah i can surf so cool so i go in and there i book it and they're like me and two other surf guys like all right it's you're the love interest there's a triangle um and so the first shot you you're going to be just running out um into the water there's a cameraman out there in a scuba gear so we're going to get some under the water shots here's your surfboard and i'm going okay uh yeah i can do this all right and there's two cameras on We're going to do long lens. And they're like, all right. And just go out there, catch a few waves.

We'll keep it really natural. And they're like, and action. Like, I stood there. And the first time, they gave me a long board, which was like eight feet long. And it's just, these waves are hammering in. And so I'm like, okay, so I just run. Hit the first wave I hit, literally. The board shoots straight into the air like 25 feet, like just shot straight between

like I tried to do the dive thing no right up and the entire time it got caught up in the surf and then went wait and I just like I went and ran and got it and came back I never got in the water and it's just like I never I'm literally in that video for like three seconds I'm like okay we can't do that anymore you've got to be honest that you can't serve I don't know I was like I can't I don't know that's yeah there's a lot of that kind of stuff Well, when you get the, when you go in for the T.J. Max and you get it, right? And you see the thousands of people or hundreds of people, whatever it is. And you actually get it. I didn't know that at the time, though. Like I literally, I was like, oh, this is easy.

You're like, I was still on the stage. And they literally, that was like a print one where you just like, like, like the guy coming out of the, like the door swings open. You're like, dude, you back to school. Beanie's, that's 1299. And I'm like, cool, let's, let's, let's do it. And it never aired. That was the thing. And so I was like, oh, national commercial. and then it never aired. So you get paid just for the day rate. With commercials, you get residuals. And generally more it plays, and the more often it plays,

it's the better, better things. So that one never went to air, and then it didn't work for three years. So it was like, okay, this is the crime. So in the meantime, in three years, what the hell are you thinking? Honestly, getting, like, acclimated. It took me a long time.

I got a job. I worked at a bar, which was crazy and interesting. And again, like trying to make friends and like actor class people. I've never like been totally. And I played hockey, man. Like I tell you, hockey played a big part in my career with that. It's a really tight-knit, cool community here. So I just like started joining a men's league.

We played at the Toyota Sports Center where the Kings practice. And I met some guys like through there. And then one thing. And then I, oh, they did like a, um, world juniors ad, which was like really cool with, uh, Mark Schifley and Gallagher and those guys were juniors.

Yeah, there was like this cool commercial for, I think was Gatorade. I was just like one of the players, you know? Yeah. And we shot it on a soundstage where we were like walking and then we, it was like pressure and the walls kept moving in. The light would explode and,

and then boom, we like pound through the gate and like fly onto the ice. It was cool. It was a really cool spot. Um, but what the director that I meant through there, um, I started hanging out with him and then he's like, oh, you would be great.

You should come skate with Jerry Bruckheimer and the guys at the Bad Boy skate. I'm like, okay, what is the bad boy skate? So then I get there and the awesome skate, number one. First off, a lot of like old vets, which is really cool. Like, Chely Whistle will come out and skate. Bill Ramford comes and skates everyone who plays out. And so, like, it's always fun to call my dad on my home. I guess who I skate.

Because I get still, yeah, it's cool, man. It's like I get little, it's cool. And then like a lot of actors like Kubrick Jr., like one of the main guys. He's crazy. Michael Rosenbaum plays all the time. He's, um, his smallville. I don't know if you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's really cool guy. So like you kind of build your community. So it takes a long time. It's a big city. It's a tough city. A lot of people don't like it here and they move because it's intimidating. But I don't know if I'm just too stubborn or just, I don't know. Time flies by and before I know

it's like pinned that long. But yeah, you build your community and then you, you know, you kind of one thing there's a networking is huge in the industry really too like it's it's like you got to be able to kind of know to get to the front of the line well that that doesn't surprise me that networking goes no matter what industry you're in exactly yeah right very true yeah it's it's a lot you got to have the talent to back it up but you also got to kind of know the guys putting everything together yeah and you got to yeah the guys you got to know how to get through a couple obstacles because they set up obstacles to keep a lot of riff-rap out, right? That's what they do.

That was me. I remember, like, it was crazy because Hollywood's really good at that. It seems very attainable and very close because it is close, but then also you're like light years away in the sense of, like, when I bartended, I was like at Leonardo DiCaprio's table with a pussy posse, like watching them run through Victoria's Secret models. Like it's, it's, and like, hang it like, yes, I'm working, but also they're like right there hang up, but yet they're on a completely other, the planet.

So that like, bartending was crazy, man. Like, I had like, that was maybe my college years, I guess. Because I worked at this ball called One Oak. It's still still here. But there was all sorts of crazy celebrities that would come in and, um, I'm sorry, I'll knock it around. I'm like, oh God, my wife's swimming. You got to end this.

She's like, baby duty. Get off. Anyway, it's really fun working in there because we get like, I don't know, I was still like up for Paradise Social Schencher. I had to see in the celebrities. It was still cool. It's still cool this day sometimes. Who is the coolest? Who is the person who kind of got your tongue tied?

Was there somebody walked in? You're like, holy crap. I mean, honestly, like watching Lake Leo Run, he's fascinating to me just in the sense that he, he hates a lot of girls and it's no trouble for it. Like he he gets like a lot like even Clooney was like at a time they're like okay George all right Stacy kebler ran to they're like all right you got to settle down and that granted he's a little bit older but everyone like Leo just keeps operating man and no one's like hey Leo like maybe this is getting he's like can it's like power to him man it's the life side it's the whole thing and no no me too for him

man he's he's good I don't know how that works so that was cool but like Rihanna was like come in and like fun and like they're just all like everyone's like really nice. like you could hang out. So I was just what my job was I would like bartend their table. So basically I would just stand at the table and make drinks for everybody. But one thing leads to another and before you know, you're partying with everybody. So like Snoop will be DJing and then like Rihanna will be sitting there and Travis Scott and like all these rappers and yeah, just like getting it done. It's it's like a fun town. I see how like a lot of actors, a lot of people get like caught up in that life and lose focus that way because it's definitely fun. It's definitely easy to do.

But I can't watch over that. You're on a different level than me. I'm going to the grocery store working at the old sales job. I don't burden. This is, this is a little. I'm on your level now. I'm brother. Those are the years. Oh, this is a city where you could be forever young. I don't feel. I feel it the same. I feel like the next morning. We don't do that very off anymore. what was the first uh first time you went in and uh shot a scene like like because totally fucking nerve-wracking terrified still terrified it's the scariest thing you could especially when you become a little more established and you start doing some more uh work and you get some confidence you can then start but like i said earlier like you just don't want to fuck anything out

man and like all these people all these guys work their asses off to put a light up and make it make you look good and the camera's been pulled they practiced the move they got it and then at the last minute they call you in and they're like all right do your shit and it's a lot of pressure like even if it's not a like live uh audience or anything there like they can see you do that still there's you know 50 80 crew guys that are sitting there being like oh my Jesus Christ we want everyone just wants to get through the day and get the day you know if you don't get all the scenes that's a lot of money and so you got to be able to deliver and that's that's what they're betting on. And that's really the thing with work and why you might not work

is because people, you're taking a risk. If you're unestablished, and you're saying, no, this is my guy. Someone's sticking their neck out for you. So you want to do right by them. But also, that doesn't happen very often because it's their ass. And nobody wants to get fired, you know. And so it's, it's easier to take an actor or someone who's like, oh, well, we know that he's done this and he's not going to fuck up on the day and we'll get that. Let's just get him rather than taking a risk on this. So I think that's why it's also a little tricky, unless you create your own content, which is becoming more and more. Easily doable. And easily doable. And that's when you're like, all right, fuckers, you don't believe that I can then look at all this shit. And then boom, you know,

then all of a sudden, like, oh, wow. So you're less of a less of a risk. That's why. suit. I just see myself as a risk. Did you, when you first went there in the first, I don't know, however many years, did you ever find a mentor of sorts? Like anyone that could kind of show you the ins and outs? No, not really. Like, it took me a long time. I do now. Also, I think like, honestly, like this is some of the changes, but I think my wife really helped me out a ton. She was, uh, she'd worked a lot. And she was like, whoa, what are you doing? No, don't do. Like, you know what I mean?

And so I think we worked together on the music video. Is that how you met her? No, we have this great. The sick puppies music video? Yeah, which forever had that song now. This is great ballad, which was played at our wedding. We didn't know, but we played our wedding, which is kind of cool. Yeah.

Yeah, so we literally have this time stamp of this music video of like when we first met, which I guess is kind of cool and sweet. But she, like, helped me out a lot. So, yeah, so I think my wife's a member. And then now, um, Yeah, I have some, a few friends, but it took me, it takes a long time to kind of find someone. But man, when you do, it changes, it changes a lot. So I encourage anyone, no matter what you're doing, to try and find someone or ask someone or, you know, you got to ask

questions. And I think it took me a long time to ask questions. Have you been watching Tiger King on a side note? That's so good. Kale baskets. She fed her. husband with the Tigers. It's so. And like, perfect timing.

How, like, perfect timing with Netflix. Everyone is like, I would love to know how many people watch that. It's, he's more famous now than everyone. And he just wanted to be famous whole time, but now he's in prison. That's right.

It's a crazy, crazy story. And I heard about him first. I think I watched John Oliver and HBO did like a little spot on him when he was running for prison. I was like, I can recognize this guy.

And then, I mean, it's, I don't know what to say. I mean, there's really no opinion. I mean, there's really no opinion. I have it like, holy fuck. By the way, she's totally killed her husband, right? I think so. But, they re-opened that investigation.

Are they? I think so. I don't know. Like, that might be, I don't know. I don't know. Those shows always, they always make it seem like no stone was, they were all left unturned and that you could go back and, oh, yeah, she's guilty and away he goes. But chances are, there's not enough.

Not enough, right? I just want the story to continue, I think, so everyone's just like, oh, look into this, kale baskets. It's bad. Just sitting down, being locked in your house with your children, and they finally go to bed, and then flicking that on for an hour, and you're just like, that's why I haven't done anything. I was seeing quarantine here, and I'm like, oh, God,

I really should get to that painting. No, I'm watching Tiger King. I'm watching a Tiger Kick, man. Get out of here. man. Then I blazed through that. McMillians is really good. Watch McMillians. That's insane on HBO. That's another crazy story. McMillians? Yeah, all these years I've been

trying to win the goddamn Monopoly game and McDonald's was never going to happen. No shit. I don't want to ruin it for you. You need to just watch it. It's about it's a both filmmaking. By the way, right now is awesome. Yeah, it's fantastic. Like the storytelling in it is great.

Like it's, it's, because everyone's like, how is this not a movie? And it's like, it doesn't need to be a movie. This is, this, this, this, this, this is, is it. TV has never been better than it is like in the last, I don't know, 10 years. Mm-hmm. Like television shows. Yeah, right. All the writers, you got always kind of follow the writers and the writers. There's a lot of good movies out there, but the fact of the matter is, is the ones that really get the people out or the, the big blockbusters and it's so global now.

But the TV, yeah, the TV, all those really good writers are going to television and you can tell, man, it's awesome. What, uh, what show are you watching, Benjian? we'll just I mean obviously Tiger King but yeah I just crushed Tiger King what do I like I mean my some of my favorite shows are I like I watch a lot of FX Atlanta is really good I kind of like those dark economies

baskets is on FX I think that's really good Zach I'm a big Zach Alpinackus guy okay I watch a lot of Barry is really good HBO's usually yeah yeah yeah yeah really in the zone um yeah I like I like kind of all those ones I'm I'm uh binging right now west world oh yeah i watch yeah west world is supposed to get i haven't gotten in that one i'm not a big sci-fi guy which is kind of interesting because Roswell uh new mexico is a sci-fi is a sci-fi show

but yeah for the most part i mean if you really break it down i mean it's not necessarily whether or not you believe that this this guy has this power that it's really about the relationships and so i kind of focused out on that show and roswell has some amazing storytelling through relationships and struggles kind of built in this metaphor of of aliens and and integration of two different kind of cultures and two different like beings and so that that for me is what's really really cool and koreenna mckenzie does like he's the um he's actually with julie plek and uh they crush it on that show i'm i'm really proud of that one um we have a really cool arc at the where i get a really cool arc at the end of the season so and has that aired yet hasn't it's coming up

It'll, uh, she's, I don't know. I should know what, I don't know, like episode eight or nine or something like that. Yeah, yeah. So a couple, like in a month. In a month. Yeah, yeah. But my wife Kayla, and so, and this, first off, this never had. My wife Kayla is on the show as well.

Oh, okay. Is a dream. I mean, like, we didn't mean on the show. We just are both on the show. And so it's amazing. We have to bring our baby. And so in our storylines will never, uh, never because she's in, uh, the past her, her episode debuted last week.

So, you know what I'm seeing check it out. And so it's been really cool for our family to like, I can go to work and go to work. And we shoot in Santa Fe, New Mexico, which is a beautiful town. And so little baby Bobby's been everywhere. She's been back. She's been back. Living in a line. It's ironic because she's been on 10 flights.

And then now we're in, you know, by the time she was six months, which is a lot for a baby that young. And now she's locked down in quarantine and loving the attention. Yeah. Where is some of the cool places you've shot? Like, has it just been L.A.? Sudbury, Ontario. Sadbury, Ontario. That was pretty cool.

No, that's cool. Actually, I really like Subberry. It reminds me a lot of Lloyd, because it's old Nickeltown. Yep. So that was a good. We called Shot Letter Kinney there, and I shot a lot up there.

I shot this web series called Cold, which was a digital release, which was a really cool story. Really great of it. And so, yeah, I mean, I did, like, a lot of print shoots are really cool. I don't do as much print work anymore. But when I did that, you always get to go to the hot places. So you get to go to Toulin and you get to go to the Bahamas and, like, all that shit.

And you get to do your little swimsuit little thing. I don't know. You do it? When you finish something, a project, whatever it is, do you watch it? Or do you like, nah, I can't go back and watch myself? No, I watch it. I'm interested to see how it turned up. is it, although I don't like, it's hard. It's weird. It's just weird because it's, it's,

it's your face and yourself and you know everything that went into it. And so it's, it's can become a trap a little bit. So you have to kind of, I just kind of watch it once. I don't get like, what do you mean a trap with it? Well, I think if you watch it, you might be like, oh, if I turn my face like this, maybe because it is a technical medium in the sense of you have to know how to position yourself around a camera. It's not like theater in the sense where it's you're open and you're big. and you're loud and everything. So you have to be a little bit technically aware,

but if you get too technical, me, my speaking for myself anyway, if I was to see something that I was doing, I might think about it in the next scene. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I might be like, oh my fucking nose looks big there or something.

I'm never going to, but like really that's got nothing to do with the story or the character or the whatever the hell's going on. And it's like, leave it alone, dude. You're in it. You know what I mean? That's the goal. The goal is always just to be in it.

You know, and you're not thinking about it, and you're just feeling mistakes to see. How many times has been the most takes you've had to do going, you know, the Liberty Moot. Liberty, Bibby, Bibdy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, bet it. Yeah. Is that the, no. Actually, to tell you the truth, we crushed that. Like, we shot that in an hour and a half.

Really? It was bang, bang, boom. Like, the soundstage is just a big blue curtain behind you, and they build the little pier. And they set the camera because the camera, there's one setup. And so they would just spitball stuff. And so we did, I mean, I guess that's probably it, like the most takes. I haven't really been in a, thank God, like I can't get it out. Like, keep effing up the lines.

It's pretty crazy how much effort goes into even an hour and a half of work. Just on like the set design and everything. Totally. I was watching a documentary on Game of Thrones how it was made and like all the stuff they had to build. I was like, holy. It's, I mean, I think that's the, I mean, that's where you measure the whole. They, those guys didn't. And they would have three of those going on throughout the world.

That's right. So they'd be shooting an, like that, that show was massive. I did not watch that show. You didn't watch Game of Thrones? He did not watch Game of Thrones. Because it's sci-fiish. Because it's sci-fi-ish. And I judged it.

I'll tell you this. Even with Colisi, I couldn't. I did, well, watch the Cleesey. I did, I tell you this. I did catch that. My wife is not in a sci-fi either. And I got her into that show because the acting, writing for seven seasons at least is fantastic. I guarantee you'd like it.

To tell you the truth, what happened was, is it, like, people here would have Game of Thrones nights. Absolutely. Our friends would get together and they would be like, Game of Thrones nights. We're making this meal. You bring this. And then we were like, oh, we haven't caught up. What season is it? And they're like, it's on season seven.

I'm like, oh, how many episodes? They're like, you have about, oh, I wish I could go back and I wish I could be you and watch all those 700 hours of television. I'm like, I look at it as like, babe, I think we missed it. I think we missed the Game of Thrones because I don't know, that seems like a lot. Actually, that would be the perfect time. You're right. I got a paint though, Sean.

I'm supposed to paint. Well, fucking paint Cleese. I'm just kidding. Everyone's going insane, man. Like, the best part too is, is, I don't know. The Instagram people, like these Instagram followers are going fucking insane because there's no like content. And like they're having to do shit in their house that is like dance monkey dance. And I'm like this.

I'm like everyone is freaking out because going basically lifestyle in Los Angeles is having. Because what the typical day for the LA influencer is you go, you wake up and it's like eight o'clock and then you, you know, go have your coffee. take a picture of that and then you do hit your workout at 11 take a picture of that and then you have a little you know you have your drink and i'm not judge this they the big a lot of these people make a lot of money doing this so whatever all the power to them and then you go home you change cute outfit take a picture of that and then you go out and you go dance with your friends whatever you can't do any of that anymore there's no going out to yoga's cancel you got your drink stand is delivery only you got your dinner with your friends nope uh so it's it's been kind of crazy to watch everyone

implode like like hey look i can learn out a juggle i don't know did you ever think about being an instagram at any point uh an inflate i don't think i don't think i'm interesting enough i don't even know how much like what they get paid off of how many people like a photo is that how it works yeah it's crazy but it also makes a lot sense and honestly it affects film industry too um in the sense if you think about it if you hire an actor where they have or not an actor or even someone who can just an actor trying to start out you know so it's a smaller part but then you have someone else who's like maybe not necessarily an actor but has two million followers in this movie and then you get them to post about this movie well hey two million

people are learning about this movie when the other may be more talented actor isn't there, but on the, like, nickels and dimes kind of thing, you're like, hey, we might get some actually tickets sold to this thing. So I see how it works that way. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, that's crazy, though. It's a lot of exposure, but does I ever consider being one now? You don't like take... Maybe now. Maybe in COVID-19. You could learn how to juggle. You could post about Game of Thrones and you're painting.

I know. It is, it is something, though. I mean, it's a new medium and it's like, it's hard not to, you know, you can't really ignore these things because everything is evolving and you want to be with it. But also something like TikTok, man, I don't know, man. Maybe I'm getting old, but I don't get it. I don't get it. But I do enjoy some of the videos on it. I do. I do. I get it. But I also think it's extremely un, it's not very creative. Like you're using your voice to do. No, it's not even your voice. It's like you're just doing voice. What are you saying? Lipsyncing. And I'm like, well, try and imitate the voice or something. Like I want a little more to it.

Or I like, because I can understand the vine seemed a little more creative. But maybe I'm just watching the wrong TikTok. I don't know. I just watch whatever people post. So sometimes I watch it. Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I throw my phone away and just let it. I sometimes social media is too much for me.

I just, yeah. I get it. I'm the same way. I take breaks and try and do. it. But it's also, you want to stay in touch with everybody. You want to know what's going on. It's kind of you get a lot of information from it. So it's... I tell you what, technology has allowed me to do this because I was thinking the next time you're back in P. Hill and then you were back in P. Hill and then you were back in P. Hill and I was down

in Minnesota. It didn't work anyway. At least this way it works, right? Yeah. Yeah. It would have been, yeah, it would have been nice to be back. Hopefully. Who knows? We're my sisters, my sister, my wife's sister is getting married in August and her bachelor's supposed to be in, I can't remember now, June or July. But our borders are,

like, the wife's going like, what's going on? Our poor friends had a canceler wedding. Yeah, a wedding in Mexico when they had to cancel it. And it's just like,

yeah, man, it's pretty crazy. And then no, no, no, no, no,

Stanley Cup, right? There's no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't say, like, not rewarded. I don't know.

I think they're going to find a way to try and get a Stanley Cup. I personally believe that. I, but I don't, I don't know how they do it. We've sat here and, you know, the land of hockey, we've heard a thousand theories on it. But then, you know, they go, you know, well, Trump.

Trump said we want the world back up and running by Easter. Well, he's backed off that. And now we keep hearing like end of April, end of May, you know, start of June. And nobody knows. No, no, no. See here again, you're going to ask me what I think. I don't fucking know what's going to happen. It's all I know is I think we're in it for a while.

I don't know. How much fun. pushing it. How much fun would it be to have like a March Madness-style NHL finals just to get the games in and have a Stanley Cup champion? I'd watch it. Everybody would watch it. I think it'd be awesome.

But I don't think here's the thing is, here I am. I'll give you my opinion on the COVID thing. All right, you got me. This is what I have heard. There's, I don't think you can get those large gatherings, like a stadium of people together for until like, They've canceled school. So they've generally going to push the entire school year until September.

So I think that would be where you were thinking where you could get, you know, hundreds of thousands of people in the same area. And so then that runs into the next season, which is the only problem with that. So unless they did it without an audience at the game, maybe. So no audience. Push the season, which shortens the next season.

Yeah. And then you televise it, make it pay-per-view. So now you're getting your money. and nobody's watched a live sport now and how long I'd buy it, right? You can't go view it in big parties so everybody would have to buy it themselves. You couldn't have one house, buy it for many people.

You might have figured it out, Sean. I don't know. No, probably not. That'll probably backfire and they just cancel it. But it sucks because we're coming in. Like, this is the perfect time of year coming up, right? Yeah, it was closer. So we can't even go hiking here.

Like there's no, all the trails are closed or no, but there was a little window of a week right before they shut the restaurants down, but the golf course was still open. So you're a golfing? I was like, holy shit. We're going to be in this for like two months. I'm finally going to be down to like a five. Like let's go every morning.

I was like, this isn't going to happen. Sure enough, they shut the golf course down. So I was like, yeah. Oh, there goes that. Speaking of Stanley Cups, did you get to see the LA Kings win a Stanley Cup? Yes, I did. Like in the building. in the building not through my buddy john sloan flew down here for for the game and he he he literally

texted me the night before and was like hey you go into the game and i think and it was game five game five right yeah was against the uh rangers yeah and um i was like no dude no i'm like i'm working at this bar man i can it's like it's like thousand dollars to get in the room he's like i'm doing it let's go i'm like okay so we come down here this is a true crazy story He lies on with some buddies. I'm like, cool, let's hang out. Like, so we go have, they have the big festival going on and like, oh, this is cool. Down like, what is it?

LA, LA life. And the beer tent. So I'm like going to go down in the beer garden. And he's like, yeah, we got this killer deal this morning. These guys literally couldn't make the game and sold us glass seat tickets, 500 bucks each. We got four of them. And he's, I was like, oh, that's awesome, man.

There's four of them. And I'm like, that's going to be great. Awesome. So we have our drinks. Cool, man. All right, good. Have a great time of the game. Great catching up with you.

I'm watching here in the beer gardens. Have a good one. 20 minutes go by and I see him coming up. Fake tickets. Fake tickets? He got hustled. So somebody got him with a good old ripoff. I said, welcome to the big city, brother.

And he's like, I mean, a poor guy. He's like, oh, God. So what do I mean? So they have a stub hub counter. And he walked up and he's like, well, I've flown here. How much is getting to the rink? And he's like, you know what? throw another one on there because what are we doing? And so he bought my ticket to the game, man.

And it turned out we had amazing seats. We were center ice and, uh, Alex Martinez scored that goal. I've never felt more because it was game five. And we would have had to go back to New York. And then everyone's like, oh, Jesus, going back to New York game six, you could come back. So everyone was like, it was a hot ticket in town for hockey, which doesn't normally happen. It's a big Lakers town, big Dodgers town. And, um, the, fresh like that you could feel it in the in the rink like overtime was happening like everyone and I've never felt an explosion of relief and excitement in one day it was the most amazing thing to be part of and then a little nice side note he had kept the old ticket so when they're doing laps with

the Stanley Cup we're like shit let's get down the ice and so we fly down and try and get as close as we can and we go to that same section they got like whoa whoa stop stop stop and he flashed him the fake tickets he's like oh right this way and so then we got to to go right down to the glass and said i think he touched it as it went through the tunnel i think dowdy took it like it was so cool man that that was that was awesome yeah bucket list man well they'd be in the building to see the stanley cup one overtime and overtime like the only thing to make it better game seven or in emminton well totally you guys i yeah conflict it's tough for me i always sure for Evanton.

Empton is the team, but when they play the Kings, I cheer for Evanton, but I just hope like no one gets hurt, and maybe get three-point game out of it. Luckily, I haven't had to have a playoff series. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, with them playing each other, because that would really kind of be weird. But, yeah, it's Edmonton while there's first, second.

Yeah, we want to see Evan to win. So he needs it. They need to pull together. Well, we were on pace to make playoffs this year, and we were going to play the flames. well, we're going to play the flames, but it looked like we're going to play the flames,

right? Like two, three, God, that would have been fun. Yeah. People would have been in fist fights over that. Garin,

Gary, Bloody Teed. Well, maybe it'll happen. We'll see. I don't know. But it's cool. The hockey community really came together.

By the way, that cup made the rounds in town. I didn't get the party with it, which would have been really fun, but definitely put hockey on the map here, or them winning those two cups. And, like, still it's still it's uh had a good effect with um i think bringing people to rink and very

aware of like of hockey in in all which is which is cool you've been going to any uh the dodgers games on there in the place i love i go to a lot of dodgers games up um i didn't catch the world series one uh last that would have been heartbreaking but uh the dodger games are special too man that's that's uh that's a whole other sense of because every pitch is important Every have that is important and they're knowledgeable. Fans are aggressive. It's, it's cool. Yeah, I really like one dodgers game.

I'm a big daughter guy. How has, uh, has being married and acting at all affected anything? Or changed? I shouldn't say affected. Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I kind of touched on earlier, but it's like, it's been much, it benefited me a lot. I mean, you have a teammate, you know, you have someone to bounce ideas off of, someone to, to work with. And being in the same industry is sometimes hard because we sometimes spend a lot of time apart.

But we kind of try and do a rule like, you know, two or three weeks is kind of gets, gets long. So we try and fly out to see each other. And luckily, we've been on the same show with the baby. So that's a whole other thing to adjust. But very, like, supportive. of, I think it's been very beneficial. It's totally true. Going forward, or maybe even since, because you guys have been married now for,

well, it's got to be almost five years, I bet. Yeah. Yeah. By through 2015. 2015, yeah. So five years or soon to be five years. Is it ever difficult having a relationship on screen and then coming home? Does that make sense?

Are you talking about having to make out with a chick with a shirt off in bed? Does that get weird? Luckily she, luckily, we both like understand it. I know it's a job thing. It's like, no, it really funny. No, it really is. Because a lot of people are like, well, it must be weird. But like, no.

I like have no. I don't know if we're also like a lot of trust is great with us. And we understand how technical it is. And good on her, man. Go go like a, whoever even someone holder. Go have her, go dance around the underwear that. I don't care. Whatever.

Go have your fun. No, no. It's not like, it's so, like, you got to remember, there's 50 people like watching behind or like a camera guy. And then they're like, cut, it's not, it's not like sexy and it's not robotic. Now, in saying that, a lot on-screen romances. But I think what happens there is you get, it's not necessarily the days. It's like the long, it's like, oh, it's the weekend. And we're all in the same hotel. And we're like, what's hanging out?

And like, I got no, there's no one else here but the cast and crew. And so, yeah, let's go hang out. and then I think that's going to get into trouble. So as long as you, you know, and we're both respectful of that. Yeah, no, it's, well, it's very unique to your industry. Simple as that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

There's not, you don't get to go and make out with anyone I worked on. You don't get allowed? No, and definitely not with 50 people watching. There's always like a thing. I remember I had one romantic scene and I was, I was younger and I was like, like, what if something tense, you know, like, like, like, so apparently there's a good line and like, what are you like, but he's like, oh, you have to like, what do I say? Like, it starts happening. And like, oh, my dad. It's like, oh, I got you. What you

say is I'm sorry if I do and I'm sorry if I don't. I was like, oh, that's, that's perfect. That's perfect. But luckily, it's like so, it's so like unsex. so there's just nothing. Nothing happened for me, so it was that. Sorry, I'm sorry if I don't. Well, I mean, once you've been in it for a while, I'm sure it's just part of the gig, right? Yeah, honestly, I always just feel bad for the poor actress.

I'm saying, I'm sorry. First thought, I mean, like, all right, what are we doing? Like, let's map out what's okay and whatever. And some of them are like, hey, go right ahead. Get a little rough. Like, okay. right let's make sure we're all in the same i don't want to be me too here very aware but also you know we got to make it believable that's right what's uh what's the weirdest thing

you've auditioned for like you got called in you're reading it on the way and you're going i am about to try and be what um i don't know i don't know i like probably i don't know this game to There was like a series, I forget the name of it, probably shouldn't mention it, but it was like a, all the space age is like sci-fi stuff where he's like, he does this. And it was like to be a host of a like almost Hunger Games-esque, but everyone was an alien. And I was like, I don't understand what's going on. But then again, I just go back to like, okay, this guy's a host and he finds this person attractive and he's going to use his power of being the host of the show to like whatever it is. So I usually, usually kind of cut it out. But like there's some crazy projects. And this industry also attracts some interesting characters, which are sometimes extremely brilliant and sometimes completely off the fucking rocker. So you got to really kind of be wary of like what you're getting yourself into. And it takes a few years. Usually you kind of figure out who's totally full of shit and who actually is making something and a true artist and interesting.

So you kind of got to develop that. Yeah. Are we done? Do we do it? I stop myself. No, I was, I was just looking down. One of the questions I had before I got going on here was I'd seen you skating at the Staples Center. Oh, yeah.

I remember this like, I don't know how long ago that was. I would do that a couple times. But if memory serves me correct, you were in a Canadian uniform, aren't you? Mm. No, I think it was like some, it was some charity event. Oh, charity? Yeah, my buddy, Gary Lucy, who's another like Brockhammer guy,

like such a small, awesome community that he put together this thing called, uh, way, oh, geez, he's gonna kill me. Pups and wags. It's basically a charity for, uh, adopting, um,

pets for dogs. Okay, yeah. We did a fundraiser where, uh, we got to skate at Cable Center and, like, had a ref and turned on. Like, I mean, I was a pro for the day, by the way. I don't know. You're really the opportunity. It's awesome.

First off, it's so bright. And it sounds. completely different. And by the way, the boards have never, it's like a billiard table out there. It is not that hard. When those guys pick up the puck out the boards like they're nothing, it's because it's way easier than picking them up in the old lash or the old, uh, Hillman Barn. You know what I mean? Like they're straight. They've been bent in. There's no chicken wire. There's none of that bullshit. I'm like, it's so like the bank passes. I mean, he's just like, oh, right here, we don't let's stick. No problem. But yeah, that's, that's always, I always say,

to those ones. Oh, Frick, any NHL barn to be on the ice and get that view is. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't know what I'm doing there, man. I'm always just like, this is, yeah, this is cool. I'm definitely going to take advantage of. I saw some commercials too with some cool guys. Like, I shot a Gatorade commercial with Sid, which was really cool. With Crosby? Yeah.

Fuck off, really? Yeah, yeah. We do, which is, he's awesome. We got to, they basically shot at the Honda Center in Anaheim, which is about an hour and a half south of LA. They totally resurfaced the ice to look like the, at that time, I think it was the, the PPG paints, whatever, the old Mellon Arena was like.

They put the logo on the ice and made it look exactly like you were in Pittsburgh. And we were the canes and I was just one of the players. And basically it's like Sid just dangling everybody and then he does his patented leg kick back to the backhand top shelf. So the first one, I was supposed to give him pressure right at the dot at center ice, and they put a camera right above center ice hovering over, looking down. And he does like his little 360 spin around me. And so he started at the blue line.

And so everyone lines up in their spots. And I'm like, okay, so I come at him. And I'm like, I'm just going to kind of angle him, you know, like you're going to. And action, so I angle him. And I skate up there. He stops on the dime and completely covers me. a snow and then peels out and it's gone. And I was just like, oh my God. Like he is listening. And then also in between takes, his agent was like, hey, Sid, let's go. And he's like, no, that's cool.

Well, hang out with the guys because we just shoot puck around while they're doing another camera set up on the other end. And at this time, he was like the goalie, the, what do you call the eback goal? The goleys that are always on call for the games. Emergency call up. Yeah, emergency call up goalie. He was the, he was the goalie in the commercial for the ducks at the time. and he, Sid knew more about playing the position, and he'd played NCAA, like, good goalie, about where the stick was supposed to be on his blocker side, up against the post.

They were arguing about putting on the outside or the inside. And I think Sid was like, you got to have it on the inside because then you can drop your hand easier and it won't get up against the post. He's like, no, on the outside, because you want the puck. He's like, well, I can see, he got into position. He's like, I can see there's a hole there. He's like, where is there a hole?

And Sid was sitting on the goal line. And he banked it off the inside of his knee and went in the back on one shot with his straight, bladed 150 flex stick that I tried to shoot and I couldn't shoot. I mean, I was like, that's when I was like, holy sure, he's in that level. So yeah, man, it's like I said, like hockey is this niche community on here has been really cool. And like, I'm so glad to have played minor hockey and being able to like hang up with all the hockey dudes. And the actors who play hockey, there's, you know, a big community of them. Kitch Taylor Kitch plays with us.

It was a healing mood in Nashville. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good player. Yeah, it's good. That's pretty crazy that you go to L.A. and then find a group of hockey guys to... Yeah, man, honestly, it's just... I don't know.

I'm just on some ride here. I don't know. Trying to stay on the path because it's funny how things just kind of navigate. If you let them. That's cool, man. It's a really interesting story. It's just something, you know, on this podcast specifically, I do a lot of, a lot of hockey players, right? A lot of sports guys.

And I've had some adventurous people, I like to call them, that just don't, you know, are outliers. But like, it's just so cool to hear how you got there. And what you're doing, you know, like, you're very unique individual to come out of this area, I guess is where I'm going to. Yeah, there's a, well, hopefully. that changes, you know, um, hopefully with like it becoming easier to make, uh, content and videos and, and in smaller communities that gives us access to, um, to, to think that way, you know, like at that time, it just wasn't. True.

No, there was no social media. There was no YouTube. There was, there was none of that. We're old, Sean. And, uh, you would just kind of make these videos for you and that was it. And if you're interested, but there was no like real industry, like thought of going to an art school. I never really crossed, you know, cross my mind.

And so, uh, Yeah, it was interesting, and I'm so happy that I was able to experience it, and it's taken a long time to get acclimated and feel comfortable. But, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's really good. Well, take us to our last segment, the Crude Master Final Five. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald. They've been sponsoring me, our big, huge supporters of the podcast since the very beginning. It's just five questions, longer, short as you want.

You got any stories, fire them off. But the first one is, what part would you love? love to play. If you could pick any part, any character, what guy would... Derek Sanderson. Derek Sanderson? Yeah. Right? No? Next question. I think that's saying it says to herself. That guy has a wild in Boston. All right. Well, we're on the hockey stuff. I mean, come on. I know your audience. I was thinking in my head, I was going like James Bond. Actually, yeah, to tell you, but I can't see this. Well, maybe, maybe in a

another era. But James Bond has to be British, man. I don't know. Batman, Batman would be cool. Hey, Batman would be cool. Now you're... Batman would be insane. I mean, everything they're doing with every character, I get it. He's supposed to be British, going back to Bond. But, I mean, learn a British accent, man. Come on. I don't know. Everyone's been British actor, though. So it'd be a Canadian. I mean, I could maybe play that card a little bit. That's right. We're like cousins. I got to say, first off, I meant to say this at the top. Every guest that comes on here,

I always like, you know, Google, YouTube, et cetera. But you are the first guy and only guy thus far that I got to do one of my favorite sites, IMDB. And I was like, Deep dive. Can't wait. Yeah, everything's on there. Watch out.

Kind of hide things on there. What actor or actress would you like to work with? like brolin's pretty cool yeah ryan Reynolds is cool those guys those guys know what's up walking phoenix is very fascinating to me but i don't think we're on the same page what do you think of his role and freaking the latest um unbelievable um

it's another level whether you like the movie or not and i mean Todd Phillips i mean talk about directors i mean Todd Phillips is like the man like i would love that or do like an apatel movie those guys are just seasoned and they're yeah that would be amazing yeah yeah walking phoenix was unbelievable that is one of the darkest movies i've ever watched yeah no it's heavy i need to flick on some family guy or i like sad movies though not not necessarily that that was just intense and uncomfortable i think it was meant to make you feel uncomfortable 100% and it was totally uh

you accomplished that. I watched Peanut Butter Falcon the other day. Shilabuff is making some really cool movies. I went to Sundance and watched him a premiere Honeyboy. That's another good one to check out. Do you get to go to premieres all the time then? Sometimes. I've been to Sundance a few times through kind of like a partnership that Kayla has.

And that is really fun because it's just a small little skiing, you know, skiing town Sundance and everyone's there, you know, premiere in their movies. movies and a lot of them are indie movies that are really interesting and character-driven and whatnot. And those are the kind of movies I always attract to. So it's always really fun to like jump around in the snow and have a good dinner and then go watch a really cool movie that are screening all the time. Yeah, I like that. Oh, cool. If you, or not if you, what COVID-19 hobby have you been inside doing now?

Obviously, it ain't painting, but have you picked up one thing? Was it? We just moved into a house. And so we've been using this time to really kind of, so I've been a handyman. We've been shipping away. So I've picked up all sorts that I'm now an electrician. I'm now a pool guy. I can do the garden.

I'm planning a landscaper now. So I've picked up all the hobbies. I'm just here by myself with my life. The gardener came by the day and I like cornered him. I was like, hey, man, how? So the grass. I was thinking I would do this. And then he's like, dude, I'm like, oh, I'm sorry.

I just haven't seen anyone. Just go ahead. Keep doing your thing. Sorry. When you look at the weather up north right now, how happy are you where you're at? See, this is what's changed. Those because I've been spoiled because now I get to visit the weather. And it's always fun to visit weather.

It's never fun to live in weather. So, yeah, we're really cool. And honestly, like Southern California, such a great spot to be where you can go Big Bear is a mountain that's closer. Only like a three-hour drive and it's there's tons of snow. You can't go on the mountain out because of COVID. And in the same day, you could drive back and go surfing at the beach or go, you know, and have 70-degree weather.

So it's really cool, great place to live there for that. But yeah, I don't miss Canadian winters, you guys. It's a tough one. It's a long one. I just wish it killed COVID. That's the only thing that would make it better. we had minus we had a it makes it makes it stronger yeah that's right how does that make any sense i googled the other day i was like wait is touch something and i don't know can i put it in the freezer

does that work you're like no it'll you put it like in the sun i'm like oh god damn that's gonna be wow yeah we had minus 21 the other day Celsius for your american list that's crazy for uh equal man yeah and like six to eight inches of snow the other day too punch me in the face yeah but what i mean it, man. I was there. I get it, man. It's just long. I remember, I don't mind the cold. And, and that sort of thing, it's just, it's just long. And the darkness, which, which I don't miss, being dark for so long, it's looking like a ghost in the mirror. Like, oh, my God. True. If you could have beer with one person, who would it be? Hmm. Dead or alive. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter where they're at?

I don't know. I'm overthinking it now. Like, geez, I'm taking a long time. I don't know. Like I went to politics, right? I was going to think like Obama would be really fascinating just because I would like to hear all the dynamics and what it was to run for that initial campaign. Just because there's like, I don't know, there's a lot of politics going on right now.

Maybe that's why I came to mind. Obama would be pretty cool. He's pretty interesting, cat, especially what he's doing now. He's making movies and stuff like that. Is he? Uh-huh. He was a film company, which is kind of cool. like documentaries you mean or no it's like scripted stuff really like yeah what are what are

i haven't i think it's it's pretty new i haven't watched anything yet but i just kind of see what's going on all right your final one if you were going to recommend since you're in the movie industry a movie that probably most people haven't heard of or just a really good movie that maybe people have heard of and haven't watched what would it be uh well everyone is everything is so accessible now it's difficult to be like hey i got a little nugget for you But just because, well, I just mentioned it, though, because I just watched it a night, I was ball in my eyes, I was peanut butter,

talking, I like that movie a lot. Peanut butter falcon. Yeah, also, um, oh, fuck, isn't it? I don't know, man, COVID's got me. I can't think of anything anymore. Eighth grade was really, was really, uh, good, too. Eighth grade. Eighth grade, who's in that?

Um, it's just, uh, shoot, who directed it? What I'm trying to think. Here. you can cut this part out as I get on your favorite website now IMDB. Eighth grade. It's basically, it's, yeah, eighth grade is an important movie. I like that one. Oh.

I don't know. It's taking too long. How come when you have your phone and you want to show someone something, it never fucking loads? And you can never check this, check this video. Oh, Bill Burrum. Bill Burram. He's a comedy guy.

Eighth grades is a good, an important movie. Josh Hamilton's in it. It's a bunch of young kids. It's about eighth grade. So they're not necessarily well established, but I'm sure they're all working a ton now. I'm looking at freaking IMGB and I can't see eighth grade. So I'm going to take your word for them.

I'm going to have to do a deeper dive into eighth grade. Well, Bill Borm's pretty good. Right on. Well, I appreciate you joining me. It's been a lot of fun. I'm sure everybody who listens to this will have a chuck. or two. Stay safe down in LA and once again, thanks again. You too, man. It'd be great to do it in person. Let's stay safe. Everyone up there, take it seriously and we flatten a curve. Hey, you want to hear this is a

fun nugget it at the end. I got to go down and my buddy's working on the new Top Gun movie. No shit. Yeah. Yeah. So one day he texts me and he's like, hey, you want to come down and we're doing a bunch of reshoots at the studio. I want to come watch Tom work. I'm like, fuck yes. So I got to go down for two days and they were shooting this scene in this big bar and i got to hang up with uh with tom all day and what was that like miles teller uh who plays goose in the movie yeah um glan in the whole cast and um he's fascinating uh dynamic uh extremely technical um like positions first off his stand-in is phenomenal phenomenal actor and looks just like him, same height, same perfect. Everything is set up.

Everyone does all the rehearsals. Camera moves, actors, okay, we're going to do this. They work out all this stuff. And then Tom comes in and his stunt double steps out and Tom's like, all right, what are we doing? And it's like, oh, geez, great. So then they explain everything to Tom, he changes a few things. And to like sit there and watch him turn into Maverick, I mean, come on. You want to talk about like cool shit, but like, what?

also he uh it's kind of interesting i think he wears lifts in his uh in his nikes because uh kind of like his little like basically his ass just looked really good so i'm like something's going on with his i was like watching him stand there and he's talking i'm like tom's ass is a little perth and i was like oh he's got lifts in he's short he's like almost the same height as him think he's got lifts in there i don't know that could be a rumor i'm sure but uh his ass make sure that stays in context but it's also really cool to see to see tom also work on stuff and and like have you know because when you watch a movie and or a TV show you're seeing the finished best version yeah that might have taken a thousand this was a reshoot of a scene

that they'd already shot in San Diego they'd done it and he was still trying things and wasn't we were like watching behind the monitors and I'm like some of the stuff he was doing wasn't working you know and so you're like wait these guys you know are working on it too they're not just creating this like one take magic one shot you know perfection um they're trying stuff and failing and then eventually like you're like oh no there he's like found it um but it was really cool to see tom do like this tom cruise so intense like oh the most intense person I've ever seen in my life, but like welcoming and direct. Yeah, it was cool.

Did you get to shake Tom Cruise's hand? Yeah, and he tell us stories. You just tell him that's how he picks movies. And what he looks for in a script and action? What's interesting is I'm like a little worried about him. He's doing a lot of action movies and he's not getting older and he's not slowing down. He's getting older and he's not slowing down. And he broke his leg on the last one.

I'm like, geez, man. He has no. No slow. He's not slowing down, man. but this new topcom movies gonna be awesome man I can't I really hope they don't have to push it and I think it's supposed to be released in July

I hope if they I hope if COVID is is still raging then or whatever all locked down they don't push it they just release it so you can buy it at home because I we need something yeah it's gonna be really cool the the camera the cinematography and those guys crushed it so

that was a that was really cool experience yeah cool well all right man Take care. Good to see you. You bet you. I hope we can do this again. Absolutely. Thanks, Dan. All right, thanks, man. Hey, folks, thanks again for joining us today.

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