Shaun Newman Podcast - #680 - Attempt on Trump pt. 2

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

We return to the “Attempt on Trump” discussion. We discuss multiple shooters, audio recordings and get into Joe Biden stepping down in the upcoming US election. I’m joined by Chuck Prodonick, Jamie Sinclair and Tom Luongo. James Sinclair spent 34 years in the Canadian Military, retired member of the Royal Regina Rifles, he served with the Princess Patricia’s Light Infantry and two commando airborne regiment and served in 3 tours overseas Tom Luongo is a former research chemist, amateur dairy goat farmer, libertarian, and economist whose work can be found on Zero Hedge and Newsmax Media. He hosts the Gold Goats n’ Guns Podcast.  Chuck Prodonick spent 20 years in the Canadian Military. He served with the Princess Patricia’s Light Infantry, served in four tours overseas and spent 9 years working in the Alberta corrections system.  Let me know what you think. Text me 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone] – and be sure to let them know you’re an SNP listener.

Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. This is a Tempt on Trump part two. About a week ago, Monday night we did our first live stream. I brought in Chuck, Jamie, and Danny Bullford. Dan can't be here tonight. So we got somebody who will spice it up, I think, tonight sitting in his place. But since then, there's been a ton of talk and different theories coming out. I've been getting a lot of texts.

I'm sure these three have been getting texts on it as well. And just seeing different information, different camera angles. and some comments from Kim Cheatel and on and on and on. Of course, Biden's stepping down today. We'll probably get into that a little bit as well. Before we get there for the live stream listener, normally on the podcast, we rattle off the sponsors. So I'm going to do that quick here. I've never done it on a live stream.

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The first spent 34 years in the Canadian military, current member of the Royal Regina Rifles. He served with the Princess Patricia's Light Infantry, uh, and two commando airborne regiment and served in three tours overseas. Of course, I'm talking about James Sinclair. And then the next, former research chemist, amateur dairy goat farmer, libertarian economist, whose work can be found on Zero Hedge Newsmax Media. He hosts the Gold Goats and Guns podcast. I'm talking about Mr. Tom Luongo. And finally, he spent 20 years in the Canadian military serving with the Princess Patricia's Light Infantry.

He served in four tours overseas and spent nine years working in the Alberta Corrections system. I'm talking about Mr. Chuck Prodnick. So, fellas, thanks for doing this. answering the call on a Sunday night and coming here to, I don't know, chat about to Trump. And I'm, I'm assuming at some point, Joe Biden. It's been a slow news day, so we'll try and pick it up a bit here. Is this thing already over? How's Tom doing?

Tom, you, uh, oh my God. You know, this. Yeah. Hi. How are you? A little fried, folks, a little fried. Cool. Well, guys, I wanted to start here, you know, from our first time talking to now,

we've had a lot of different things come out, different angles, different thing, different camera footage, sound, everything. And I just thought, you know, I would really appreciate if you three would sit and chat a little bit about it and see what we could do with some of the theories. The first I wanted to start with, you know, I don't know how many times I got sent Chris Martinson video, peak prosperity. It was showing raw audio evidence proves there at least two shooters firing different weapons in two locations.

What are your guys' thoughts? Take your way, guys. Well, I, look, I've watched a lot of the video. I watched the video you sent. I keep referring back to the first, as I was watching it stream live, that audio from that particular video without any cuts to it, without any extra enhancements to, you know, what they're doing.

It's one shooter, in my opinion. It's one shooter from one position with the same rifle. You're going to hear, you hear in that one video you sent me, Sean, and I can't remember whose it was. Chris Martinson. Chris Martinsons. And he doesn't really understand crack thump. Maybe he doesn't even understand that it overlaps when you are rapid firing.

Because the first three shots are very crisp. They're very deliberately shot. There's some patience to the man shooting at that point. And then he panics, and that's what's going to happen. You're all going to get buck fever when you've got a real human in your sights. And that tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. That becomes overlapping with the crack thumb, crack thumb, crack thumb. And so even his own audio breakdown, or he's breaking down,

well, this is only 0.16 of a second instead of 0.22 of a second, well, you're overlapping. That is the overlap. That's what's happening. Because you're not getting replicated crack thumps at this point. Crack dumping, I fired the rifle, but you're hearing the shot go off first. That's what you're going to hear first rather than the actual weapon discharging. So he...

Chuck. Jack, the thing is about that, Chuck, it's a 140-meter shot. That round's traveling at 940 meters per second. Crack-thump is really the same fucking. sound in this situation. It's not like these fucking 400 yards away where the sound is catching up to the crack. There's still, I think it was 0.22 seconds was the first three shots,

like very distinct shots. Yeah. Which is about right for 130 meters. A human year has a hard time picking up fucking that point two, three, three seconds, right? Like it's easy to slow down on video and calculate out the time. But like those bullets, singing by Trump's head, yeah, they're coming from one direction.

I don't feel there's been two shooters involved in this. And what's happening now is because they're slow releasing information and having something like presented to the American public, people are filling in the blanks like we are. And there's some fucking crackpot people out there. They're coming up with some wing night ideas. And it's just going to lead to more chaos. the best thing that the government can do at this time

is present what they've got and have laid out with all the detail that they can just to keep the people calm or you're just going to get more of this shit happening, right? So I feel as much. Well, then you've got to answer the question on top of that, then why aren't they doing it? Yeah, and you never do it, right?

And the other, the thing that, you know, from the moment this thing happened, And I'm like, I just don't think that if there was a, there was an operation this important at this moment in time, can be left to a 20-year-old, 20-year-old soy boy. Just not, just not buying it. I don't care. Like, if you want to go with, you know, same rifle, same, same distance, fine. Then there's one on the roof and there's one in the building.

Like, I get that. That I can buy, right? And, you know, two shooters, same position, basically, one, the Patsy. one you can see, one you can't see. And you ensure. And so then you start talking about, you know, and again, I'm not, I'm being agnostic here. Like, my inclination is to believe that there is more than,

that they had coverage. If they wanted Trump dead, he would be dead. And somehow he survived. Perfectly willing to, you know, be persuaded of that position, right? Yes, I've been, you know, like, no, you know, but I never, but you can never buy the story that. tell you because it's always some lone guy who's just angry doesn't matter the shit was tired with lee harvey oswald for Christ sake yeah you know and i'm like i'm just not buying it and

you know you they have to prove to us yeah that there was one guy definitively that was it the whole nine yards there's 10,000 friggin phone cameras on that site at that moment in time I want to know why all the, why the lack of coverage, why the lack of security, why this, why this, why that. You have what they described the minority report as an orgy of evidence, or in this case, an orgy of incompetence surrounding this thing. Yeah. I'm sorry, you can't tell me that we have that, you know, we're this big a clown world. And if you're going to tell me that it's this big a clown world, then I'm going to tell you that that's the fucking narrative. That's been the narrative surrounding the United States for three years now since Biden was selected and the junta put in place.

Because it serves the interests of the very people who want Trump dead. So the incentives align, the Venn diagram of all the incentives, all the people who want Trump dead align and you don't. And then therefore it's incumbent upon them to prove to us, you got the shadow of a doubt. There was one kid and this was just a thing. And I'm sorry, I got vanishingly small. percentages that that was the case. So, I got to put it down.

I got to put it out there with that. So go for it. You brought up a good point. And if there was a sniper team inside of that building where that sniper shot from, number one, that's a totally fucking ridiculous place to put the sniper team. And he would be firing in the same angle as what the shooter in the roof would be. So, like, he probably. he had maybe a 15 or 20 foot elevation

difference and that's easy to figure out with trajectories and such but if they did have a sniper team in that building to take out Trump well they fucking and they're a trained team they missed and you don't miss it 140 yards

no you can you can take a private you can take this soy boy and give him two days of range lessons with somebody who's reasonably competent and at 130 meters that kid's going to put it in a pie plate all day long. And his first couple shots

were on that pie plate. Sure. Then he starts, then it all starts to amp up. People are moving. Trump has gone down. The panic sets in. I'm just going to start rapid firing. If there'd been, like, and I, look, we're at this point in our time in this timeline now,

where we all have seen JFK videos left and right. And we know there's more to this story, that story. I'm not going to get to that right now. But had they had a second train team, there'd be no Trump, that Trump would be gone, in my opinion. Yeah, no, and that's a, and Chuck, I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not I'm not, I'm not my first inclination as well. Like, it, it's, it's hard for me to see either

of these things. Yeah. Now, did this guy have help? This guy had help. He absolutely had help. Okay. Well, let him over that. He, he had no, he had helped getting into, he had help, he had help remaining where he was as long as he was. Somebody tipped the scales to leave him on that roof under surveillance, under observation for as long as he was. He had fingers on the scale. But he was, in my opinion, the guy on the trigger. Well, here's the thing.

The reason why they're telling us a story is like this all goes right back to Marius and Jill Biden. Jill Biden appointed the leader of the Secret Service. And Marius is the one that tells the Secret Service who to use for, and they pulled his 18 guys away from him. And they gave him fucking seed team people. Like it's, it fucking goes great to Marcus and to Jill Biden. And so that's why they're not talking. Yeah.

And again, that makes sense. And that tracks. And again, I'm here to like, you know, do the thing and say, you know, know from the political perspective you want this thing this this thing has to go off like a this thing has to go off um you know the best meme that i saw on the whole thing on on saturday night was the picture of Hillary clinton walking out behind the the the the refrigerator going what he what they missed he missed you know my shit they oh my shit they missed like you know and like and and and and and i get it and you know and and the other thing is and

And this, again, one shooter, two, shooters, three shooters, 12 shooters. It doesn't bring a matter. What was, and I was telling, I was saying this, I said this on another podcast I did, and I told them, and I said the same thing to my patrons a week ago. So, yes, a week ago, Sunday morning. So I'm on, I'm on my, I'm on the microphone at 10.30 in the morning recording my, my weekly, biweekly podcast for my patrons. And I said, you know, it finally hit me about half an hour before I press record.

I've been putting all these pieces together for months. Back in February, I wrote an entire issue of our newsletter surrounded by the idea of, you know, around the theme of, or not me, but Dexter White and I wrote an issue around demoralized nation. And what would be more demoralizing? Well, I saw at that moment in time coming into Super Tuesday was they're setting up a Haley versus Hillary presidential campaign. I could easily see them getting rid of

Trump, put him in jail, whatever, and then you turn around and, you know, you, 25th Amendment Biden or whatever, or whatever, just what happened today. It's not really that difficult. And then what really hit me is because everybody been asking for weeks or for a couple weeks, why the debate now, why before the nomination, the conventions, why this, why this, why it doesn't make any sense to me. And I'll go, I'll go one step further. The Supreme Court issues a bevy of massive, massively changing, massively aggressive moves against the administrative and the deep stay on Wednesday and Thursday of that week.

We have the, and then Friday the next day, we have the debate that Thursday night. We have the end of Q2 in the capital markets on that Friday. All of this is happening. The markets are all frozen in amber for two weeks. and everybody is walking around. I'm talking about the heads of state in Europe after the Europe. You've got the European parliamentary elections. You've got the UK elections the next week.

You've got the French elections on Sunday. Everybody and their brother is walking around like not a care in the world. They're losing left and right. We're sitting over here going, I can't eat this many recess cups. This is too many good things happening all at once. And yet these people are walking around like they ain't got a care in a fucking world. And I'm like, that bothers me. That bothers me because they know something that they,

they know something these fucking people. I've been, this is what I do for a living. I watch these people every fucking day. And I can tell when they, and then Victoria Newland comes out the day before Trump gets shot, smirking and grin at how Trump's not going to be the candidate. Like, are you kidding me?

Yeah. She knew. Like they all knew. It was a work kept secret in fucking Washington and Brussels. And London. And this thing was supposed to go on. without a hitch and so because they had it all set up and it's what finally hit me that you know this a week ago sunday i'm like oh that's what how they were going to take out trump but they couldn't get

them since because after they the sentencing got pushed back because of the supreme court thing yeah that's supposed to happen on the 11th on the 12th meet with victor orban in freaking marilago and on 13th they take a pot shot out yeah well good good i was just thinking about what you're talking about there with like is it confirmed that they were a sniper team in that building? Or was it two police officers that were too hot that went into the building to secure it? That's the excuse.

Now, no. They believe anything these fucking people say? Well, no, I just, I just want to know, like, is there a, is, because if it's, there's no confirmation of anything from these people yet. Right. That's the problem, Jim. That's the problem. If it's a sniper team in that building, you own, like a sniper team in a building as an

arc of fire like maybe like 25 mil either way like he's definitely pointing out the president of the United States if I understand correctly and again I may be wrong but there is a window that puts it right on that puts it right on line with where Trump was speaking so right in line the same basically on the same vector that that that that that crook shot on yeah in your theory in your theory but maybe they did miss and And maybe this is like a Marjoricus and a higher fucking power that set all this shit up. Because, you know, when you laid out that way, it gives some food to thought. I typically don't go down those rabbit holes, but it's definitely something to think about.

Because every assassination, if you go right back to when the Oshe and Duke and Princess were killed in Sarajevo, like they had would be assassins that that failed prior to and even prior to the assassination that did take their lives there was another would be assassin that threw a bomb on on a on a vehicle and wounded somebody else in a vehicle behind so yeah like these are how these things go and then eventually the would be assassins they take their cyanide pills and they're dead and nobody knows who who sent them there and going back to lee harvey oswald yeah he was a chum. that they fucking killed and set up for the assassination of Kennedy. I'll give you this summer. Jamie, I'll give you this summer.

Okay, you got Robert Fisto in Swalakia. Okay. Guess what? We know when he talks about this, but oh, by the way, his security detail was lightened. He wound up with a C team. He wound up big in a different route, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then boom, he wound up in the wrong place at the wrong time

and got shot and somehow he survived because he's, because he's, you know, a recalcitrant prick. Good for him. Sinsalabe, same scenario. except this time they get some kid with a steampunk gun and he runs up this and somehow he's able to run up to shinsau abe the prime minister of japan one of the safest places in the entire freaking world one of the most security conscious places in the entire world and somehow this kid is able to get access to the prime minister okay go fuck yourself i don't believe a word of that i mean i do but there's only what as chuck would put chuck would put it he had help same thing here yeah so if you're Crooks did do it and he acted alone or alone on the day on, you know, fine. That's okay. He's been prepped for it.

And then they set the scene up to allow it to happen. And then either he or somebody else missed. And you know what happened, guys? Trump turned his head literally in the one direction. They weren't expecting in the turn. They had this thing laid out. Trump never turns to the drumotron. Last 20 things that he's done, he never uses the jumbo trombotron.

Yeah. Okay. is covering this live for the first time all year. Yeah. You don't you this is, I'm sorry dudes. Like they wanted him dead. They missed. And look, shit goes sideways.

I mean, it just came out the other day that Victor Orban just this just dodged a bullet. No one talked about it. Okay. How many times is Putin? Putin's driver three years ago. Putin was supposed to be in the car. I've seen the footage. It's been six years ago, whatever was.

I've seen the footage. It's been scrubbed from the internet. Yeah, the security camp footage of him, of the guy driving down the Moscow highway, and then the passenger side, right front brake, fires, not the other one,

just the one. And the car veers off and goes right into six lanes of traffic on the other side because there's not, because on that stretch of the highway, there was no concrete barricade between the north and southbound traffic. I saw it, clear as day, you could see it,

boom, and then it was scrubbed from the internet like, like within a day. And I didn't download it. I have watched two. many of these. Uria and Yulia Dugan.

Not Yulia, not Yulia. Dugan's daughter. Same thing. Dugan was supposed to be in the corner. Same thing. I can do this all day long. These people are just in kill them all off mode. They killed, I'm firmly convinced they killed off the president of Iran Raizi.

They tried to kill Fisto. They've tried to kill Arbon. They've tried to kill Trump. They killed Sinsoabe. but it's all of it. You think, Jens, do you think,

uh, you, you, you mentioned CNN showing up and they had to be covering anything of, of Donald Trump, you mentioned getting the C team or whatever team you want to call it. Sure. Like Trump's not a dumb guy.

Do you think he was looking around and knew what was going on? Or does he have any inkling that, that, that, I mean, obviously he knows what he's up against. Does he have any, I mean,

this is, I mean, such a speculative question, but would he, even realized that he's getting the C team or he's going to so many events there's no time for him to start to notice like some oddities I think I think he is intelligent and aware as Trump is he's also inundated day in and day out with events with people he he might just have to be taking his security at faith at that point he might have been like at good faith he isn't now you see the difference between the team he walked out with at the R&C

those are all some big boys and again to go back to the staff that he had there at the event where he got shot look I have a problem with how some of those people handled themselves we talked about that last time but that one female on stage she covered him with her body

she covered his vitals when they got up she had she was in control of herself she knew what she was doing and she did she did as well as anybody could do. I have no problem with what she did. Is she big enough to cover a man who's six foot three or six to four, whatever Trump is? No.

But I know a lot of six foot four dudes who wouldn't have done as well as her either. So it goes both ways. The other two females on that video, they shouldn't be garden a Walmart, you know, they're a junk. But that one woman is probably still trying to holster her pistol at this point. Like at this point, if you listen closely, you'll hear it. But Trump, I'm sure at this point, has started to take,

he's had to have taken it seriously. And if he hasn't, people that are in his orbit have. Right. Fair. Well, here's the thing about Trump, though. Like, he's had security around him for ever since he's been a president, but he's had security prior to, right? So you got guys that are 100% percent.

percent Trump lovers. Like they, they pick up on things that Trump might not pick up on. And they're his advisor. Like they are to advise Trump like, hey, man, something's fucking weird here. This team isn't right.

We don't got people up on the roofs. All that, all that shit, right? And going back to like what we learn now, the guy was, came through a security area where there's a metal detector. He had a fucking laser range finder. Red flag.

there fucking reported higher all this shit is getting reported but it's not getting to trump's team right so the other thing is fucking he's seen 26 minutes prior to fucking shots fired the cops have a picture of them they're looking for him he accesses the rooftop either by a ladder or by a fucking air conditioning system like he's got eyewitnesses videotaping him with cell phones that he's up there the police crawl up there the guy threatens the police with a guy gun, still nobody telling the fucking Trump security detail that there's a gun. Like 26 minutes prior to this event, he should have been fucking in his car and gone. It should have been a stop, drop.

And at the very least, there's a holding area where they would hold Trump until they find this fucking guy and get him out of there. And even if I was a security detail commander, I'd be like, no, that's fucking bullshit. We're calling this in the fucking car and gone. So going back to your shit, Tom, what you're just saying, and you too as well, Chuck, yeah, there was somebody helping them stumble his way to that rooftop. And I fucking, it's going to go right back to Marocas, that person in charge of Secret Service.

And it's, it's going to go, like, way up the chain. Well, did you see James? I'm sure Tom is seeing it. And me and Chuck briefly talked about it, but Kim Chedal had her interview with ABC News. And in it, she said that the building in particular had a sloped roof at its highest point. So, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there

that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. That was what she told ABC News. That's bullshit. Did you not see where the sniper team that shot him on? They were on a fucking slope roof, fucking shooting off the peak of it. Yeah, well, it's just. One was the two and two. One was a two and 12.

One was a four and 12. The counter sniper team was on the four and 12 or five and 12 roof. And again, I know this because I built five and 12 roofs. And I've stood on them and you can set up on them just fine. And I've seen pictures of the cow. The cow can make it up on the roof. I'm sorry. Like, it's, it's, she's going to, she's supposedly going to resign tomorrow.

That's good because now she's a, now she's a, you know, private. citizen, now we can like, you know, do you guys think this is the only or last attempt they make on Trump in this kind of daring fashion? No. No. No. No. No fucking. I don't either. I don't think it's last. There was a shooting in Milwaukee the day of the convention, uh, and they're down playing it as a homeless guy that, that, that was a mile away from the convention and was shot. Um, but nobody fucking knows the details behind. that either. They tried to blame that one on the Iranians, which was hilarious.

Okay. Okay. The one thing that really bothers me more than anything else, guys, and I'm going to tell you this, like, flat out, I've been watching these people for a long time. The thing it bothers me more than anything else that I've never seen the information space so polluted so quickly. One of the things, I haven't had a chance to sit in the chat with Lieutenant Colonel Steve Murray yet.

He and I just, it's like, it's like getting the schedules together. It's just terrible. But that's the one thing that he and I are going to chat about. And is that this information space is already polluted in ways from Sunday within 10 minutes of this thing happening. They were polluting the space. And they're going to continue to pollute the space, left the right and center, because they've got to cover their tracks in some way of manner to shape or form because they're not going to let this go. They can't be caught. Look, the Biden, I almost want to get away from the incident itself because it's very clear, I think,

it doesn't matter whether there's one shooter, two, three shooters or 12. It doesn't matter. What matters is they took a shot at a presidential candidate with odds on favor to win the frigging thing, former president who should have better secret service protection than this. Given the, given everything that's going on, there shouldn't have been a guy like that kid shouldn't have been within 500 yards

of that place. And under any other, you know, if there was any other person in the American politics, it wouldn't have been. He wouldn't have been. Okay. So now, now the big question is, you know, where do we go from here? Biden steps down today and is, you know, effectively executed by his own party. Yeah. Kamala Harris is inserted. And a lot of things happened that I did not expect in that respect, in that, in that timeline.

Again, I'm going to go back. And I hate to do this because it doesn't seem like the right call at this point. That seems something feels off about this. but Hillary Clinton and Bill both come out immediately for Kamala Harris. So does Alexander Soros. Now Soros, I've always tagged as a kind of a Davos minion, but he's also very much a British intelligence asset. So, and I believe that there are two factions. I don't believe that continental Europe and old British neoconservative, whatever you want to call them, McKinders,

whatever you want to call them. Old British globalists and European globalists are not the same people. They're not the same club. At times, their bend diagram overlaps, but they're not the same club. Yeah. So Obama maps to those guys in Europe.

Always has, always will. Hillary maps to whoever will pay her enough money, make her president. And she's a neo-conservative. So this is pointing to me, like Kamala Harris made a deal with Hillary because then Obama comes out, refuses to endorse Kamala Harris, and is calling for an open convention. Obama and Clinton have been at war with each other since Obama was made the candidate

back in 2008. Just dropping the stink bomb out there, folks. So I have a question for you, Tom, that you might know you're going to know a lot more about this than I am. Sure. I found it, for one, I thought it was historical that it came out on X before it hit the legacy media that Biden had dropped out. but that raises questions on its own. This should be a speech from the White House. If he's going to release letterhead, there was no presidential seal on it,

and I think that's a big deal. Not really. No? And I'll tell you why. But something... We did... Yeah, I know, something stinks about this, right? Something stinks about it.

I won't argue with that, but I was chatting with my partner about Dexter White about this, and he brought this up almost immediately. I said, yeah, it wasn't on presidential letterhead. But a decision not to run is not a presidential decision. It's a private person's, it's a private citizen's decision to run for re-election. He's not, even if he is the holder of the office. So, you know, not to say that they don't abuse presidential stationary, the use of it on a regular basis.

Yeah. But in this instance, it actually would be proper for it to be not on presidential. because he's saying I'm not stepping down as president. I'm stepping down as the potential nominee for president for the 2020. That makes sense. That makes sense.

Next term. So I think that's as far as it needs to go. And look, do I believe that Joe Biden wrote the letter? Oh, that's a better question. Yeah. Was Joe Biden executed by his own staff? Was it in crayon?

There were no, there were no, there were no, there were no bullshit stains on it from the mushrooms. Like, you know what I mean? So, I don't know. I guess I'm curious to see what he looks like in the four or five days. They say it's going to take him to make an actual statement. I'm curious to see if he looks like a hostage reading a note in that call. That's what I want to see. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm interested in that as well.

I'll be honest with you, like guys, it wouldn't surprise me at all at this, at this point that they're actively poisoning. Yeah. So guys, here's my question to you three. So we've talked about the obamas and the Clintons and such. For some reason, I fucking smell a rat either in the FBI or the CIA. I think just those two entities alone have enough reason to kill Trump. Would it be something that could be like something that one of those two organizations has like, authorized to to carry this out is this something is that something crazy or what well i think the guy

that would have actually organized this more than anyone is john brennan or james clapper or both let's not kid ourselves but i and i again said this last sunday i said if i was john brennan i'd get my ass on a plane into a country without an extradition treaty like holy shit they missed yeah my six o'clock i'd have been on a fucking plane out of our country yeah i don't know where john How about Ray? Because I haven't heard of I heard of Pete from from Brennan. Now that guy never

misses an opportunity to run his mouth about how much he hates Trump. Same thing with Hillary. The statement from Hillary coming out today endorsing Kamala Harris is the first time Hillary has spoken since she last tweeted publicly

on July 12th. Yeah. How did it? I'm sorry? How about director? Ray. Oh, Christopher Ray? Oh, that guy is, that guy's as dirty as the day as long.

Yeah. I fucking. Did Obama endorse Kamala, Harris? No. I didn't. He absolutely did not and called for an open convention. And called for an open convention. Yes, that's what I thought. This is a Clintonian coup.

And I'll tell you what the kid is. She backs, Hillary backs Kamala. That whole wing of, the Democrat of the Democratic machine backs Kamala Harris. And if Kamala Harris wins, the first thing she does is pardon Hillary Clinton. Yes. For what? I don't know, but just retro, you know, a blanket, you know, a blanket pardon for Hillary Clinton.

Because something is going to come out. And I don't, you know, at some point, guys, this thing is bigger than all of these individuals. Okay. This is, gets into Martin Armstrong stuff, Sean. This gets into, they need a war. Europe to cover their they need World War 3 to cover the default and they want to default on all the debt. They want to roll everything

up. They want to change the monetary system over and they want to default on the debt. This is what's driving 90% of this and them wanting to cover their own asses because they know goddamn well that the reason they went and they rated Marilago was most likely because Trump

took all the all the documents that proved that they framed him and they did the things and the Pfizer courts and all the rest of the stuff. And he they know full well that Trump is going to return to power and you should take these people at their word. And let's not forget.

Trump comes back to power is an existential threat for all of us. They're talking about themselves. Not talking about America. They're talking about themselves. And let's not forget, Tom, that raid on Marilago, the rule of engagement they authorized

was that they could shoot to kill Trump. I don't know. They specifically said, if he gets in the way you do, you got to do basically. Like, yeah. Are you kidding? Really?

They couldn't. They couldn't, They couldn't have coordinated like a couple guys to come over to check some boxes. No, no. This was a full-on weaponized raid. And then they staged and then they set up all of the files, nice, pretty pictures, the whole nine. Come on. Like, you know, this is called dressing the set.

Yeah. Okay. That's what this is called. And everybody needs to get. Similar to the pictures of the RC&P took of all the weapons at the. Puts crossing. Again, that wasn't fucking staged. Same fucking shit.

Same as Trudeau's picture of all the flags being Nazis and shit. That was all fucking same shit. We're going to have another Charlottesville, folks. Yep. Yeah. There's going to be an escalation in Ukraine that's going to force Putin to go first.

And it's going to happen before the election. Well, they keep trying to drone strike that I can't remember the name of the nuclear facility, but they are continually Dros up breathing. Yeah, exactly. They keep continually hitting it, trying to spark the event there.

And thankfully it hasn't happened yet, but they're doing it every day. And believe me, nothing would make the, nothing would make the Brits happier than to poison all of Eastern Ukraine and kill even more Slavs. Yeah.

Fuck these people. They're evil. I forget I forget where I heard it I'm tracking my brain and I just can't remember what show I was listening to or who I was listening to but regardless they were talking about you think you know Trump dodges a bullet and you think oh great where rah raw Trump's going to walk into presidency and it's going to be you know we're just going to he's going to win and everything's going to clean up and you know and I'm going what what movie have you guys been watching like this isn't this is how this is going to go plus there's a hundred plus days I believe until the election right?

There's still a lot of time. And whatever a guy it was, and I'm spacing right now, he said this is probably the most dangerous time in history, like for, you know, I'm speaking my lifetime, these next 100 days. Would you agree with that, boys? Or do you think that's an overstatement? We were one big screen slideshow away from a civil war,

like a hot civil war. Like Trump turning his head, kept things in a cold civil war. Had he been, you know, had they fucked up his hair due permanently, this would be, I'm not talking like we're talking north versus south of everybody thinks civil war. They're thinking region versus region. That's not what the next one will look like.

Actually, a very good representation of what that looks like is that movie Civil War that just came out a few months ago, very good representation of what the next potential one looks like. It's street against street, region against. region, family against family. It's a dirty little infighting thing. And we were, the U.S. was that close to it, literally the turn of the head. Look, if, like Tom just said, and I agree 100%, they will continue to escalate.

This next 100 days, you think we're in like, things have got to slow down now. The new cycle's got to slow down. That's the trend. Boys and girls, it's going to get worse. Like, it's going to get worse. I don't literally don't drink too much your liver will not be able to handle it get sleep

go out and take a walk every once in a while I've already smoked enough cigars in the last week for all of us and I'm not kidding like it's not good my voice is nearly shot I'm like oh my God everybody's like emailing me behind the scenes going to take

care of yourself working in each of him like too fucking late like it's not good right Um, uh, so, and, and I, and I mean that sincerely, this is going to escalate from here. Yeah. We are, you know, that was. And yes, Chuck, I agree with you completely. Had Trump, a Trump not turned his head like literally as the guy was pulling the trigger. I mean, that's got to be the timing.

You guys are shooters. You would, you would know, right? That at the moment the guy was pulling the trigger, he was like, he moved his head, 10 degrees or 50 degrees to the, to, in a direction they were not expecting him. If anything, they were expecting to turn back to the crowd. and have even more of a broadside shot on it. Well, yeah, I'll tell you this, by the, from the time that shooter signal sent that signal to his finger

to pull the trigger and he was squeezing the trigger is the time that Trump turned his head. That's how close it was. It was, that is how close it was. Yes. And it's, you know, you ask yourself, you know, And I, you know, this is one of those moments, right? Where you ask yourself, you know, Sean, we're up to cornerstone.

And I said, you know, God took his finger off the Empire State Building. Like, yeah, and he placed it on Donald Trump's head and moved to 10 degrees. Yeah. Yeah. And, and you know, I'm not, I'm like, I'm a guy standing on two islands going, I got a foot on both islands going. I'm not sure what I believe about how the universe operates anywhere. But I can tell you that we're an uncharted territory here.

Yes, we are. Absolutely. Something about the universe said, this guy can't die yet. And like Trump, don't like Trump, have problems with him, don't have, doesn't matter. Like, this is not what this is about anymore. And I was like, you know, and in this, it's going to be a very difficult, I think it's going to be a very difficult pill for a lot of people to swallow. But I think in the center of the electorate here in the United States, you know, they're the ones that are going to be looking at this going. okay, I knew things were bad,

but in no way are they this bad, that we would stoop to this. This is not how we solve our political disagreements. And, yeah, that is how we do it, folks. And you, and no one is really, everyone is a little shell shock, but no one is surprised. Yes. So now it's going to be that moment.

And I think it's going to, you know, like for me, it was that moment, like, I finally got off my, I got off my libertarian high horse in 2016 and finally voted for the first time since 2004. And I voted for Trump because I like, you know, I never, you know, up to that point, I'm like, I'm, why vote only? You're only encouraging them. And like, and I still believe that, by the way. You know, for the most part, I'm like, whatever. It's just if voting, you know, if voting changed anything, they would have outlawed years ago. Oh, I'm sorry. We did not see Europe? Like, and did we not see what we just witnessed on? last Saturday is another instance of that.

Okay, fine. We're not going to vote our way out of it. Or maybe we are going to attempt you one last time. And, you know, Ben, we're going to have to get serious. I don't know. Like, you know, Tom, I was, I'm sitting in Colorado currently, you know, as we make our way to Mel's parents in Minnesota. And I was telling a friend today, you know, I've been talking to Tom and Alex. and actually probably all four of you for well over a year now.

I think, you know, Chuck and James, I think we go back maybe to 2021, roughly somewhere in there. Regardless, we've been talking about this openly, you know, this faction behind the scenes and what they're going to do, you know, as this election gets closer. And I don't know, this is more just statement. You guys feel free to chime in with your thoughts.

But I was saying today, like, you know, you talk about, yeah, they're going to try and kill Trump. It's easy to say it. It's another thing to witness it on live television for them to do it that openly. And I think of honestly, I showed up to Alex Crane or wherever he said. I thought about seeing if he wanted to hop on it, you know, like three in the morning, his time. But he'd put out a tweet and I was just pulling it up here because he said they are shaking the jar. they are these are deliberate provocations cause chaos crack down and introduced martial law total control

these are deliberate provocations uh the thugs are paid the man recorded in the footing he was talking about a video but then he goes on to talk about the red and black ants right put in the jar and shook and when when you're watching this all play out you know like it's one thing to be like yeah they're going to try and kill trump it's another thing for them to do it so blatantly in front of everyone like it is it comes back to they really want um like civil war or or what have you because that's what they're like to me i thought of Alex uh almost immediately and then of course you put it out of the red jar being shaken i don't know that's just my thought and i was talking about it today because when you know if i hadn't been paying attention to anything if i hadn't had tom and Alex sitting

there you know slowly introducing my brain to geopolitics and going you know like what the heck is going on and just slowly bit by bit, you know, taking it in, taking it in. I don't know how I'd react to, you know, Donald Trump. Maybe I just walk on with my day. Oh, yeah, they tried to kill him, but he's alive and, you know, you just carry on. Sitting here watching it and talking about it for the past year, we've been talking about Donald Trump and if he would get reelected. Now you're 100 days away from him looking like it's going to be a slam dunk.

I know there is no such thing in politics as a slam dunk, but you look at it. That's what it looks like. And you go, they're going to do things. And they just did it. and then to hear you all say that, oh, they're going to try again. It's like, huh, okay, well, it's almost a surreal experience sitting on this side and two years ago knowing none of this, Tom, or Chuck, or James. I tell you what, if Trump has an automobile accident or an aircraft accident,

that's going to be something from a higher group of people that have the expertise to make that happen. if it's another shooter or something it's might be lower level assassinations from would be you know copycat people but they're going to amp up if it's from the big state they're going to amp up how they do it similar to

how they fucking got rid of Diana and fucking planes crash all the time look what happened to the president or the Iranian president right so that's what I mean like if it was a plane crash right up down it goes because he flies all the time Oh, like John.

None of us. How would you know, there would be no cameras. There'd be nothing. Look at JFK Jr. in the plane crash and he was going up against Hillary. I mean, are you kidding me?

Like the timing there, you dig into that rabbit hole, Sean. But the fact that they're so open about it right now that they're so blatant about it, it shows you that that curtain has fallen from them or they're desperately trying to hold that curtain up in front of them right now and they're not able to do it.

There's too many people that know that, Or they're trying to shake the jar And they're trying to make it as evident as humanly possible Or Or They really just have so little respect for us They don't care That too

That is the thing you really have to get into your head They fucking don't fear us At all Or they are so close to losing everything They've got nothing to lose I think it's a bit of war. Yeah. It's a bit of a point.

None of the guy. These are all, these are all part of the Venn diagram. How many of these different things are sent, like you get, you come up with kill Trump? Well, look at what happened the last time that the government didn't care about the people. The French fucking invented the guillotine. And then after that was, uh, when they had a lottery to see who was going to kill their, uh, their, the leader and his wife in, uh, was that Belgrade or what fucking. Romania. Romania. So they're that desperate fucking, you just watch the people stand up because

it'll be fucking chaos. So James, I've ever met you before. Chuck, I've only met you once. And Sean, you've heard me say it multiple times. I've been long geotines, rope makers, and lead futures for four years. I've now got more high concept than say hemp farmers as opposed to rope makers just to make it a little bit more high concept like so be a team farmers and lead yeah we are nobody expected this timeline and now we're in it they're very desperate that's that's that's blatant but you know what Trump said it he has said it I think even as far back as 2016 they they want to get to you I'm just in the way and like and that goes back to Tom's point about they don't

respect us or fear us or think anything of us other than whatever they do which is not much except as a tax base or a cannon fodder and Trump is first in 2016 did anybody know about fake news till then? I mean we are all probably a little squishy

about the news but he opened up her eyes to it. The British tabloids news I've been a little bit I've been I've been marinating in this ship for 20 years like yeah sorry but that's oh me me too But at the same time, that's part of the reason why, you know, it's like after a while, events come to you.

Like 15 years ago, 20 years ago when I was listening to John Perkins, you know, doing the book tour for Conventions of Economic Hitman. I heard him on Jim Pavar show before we ever had the word podcast. Okay. Because it was just the early days of internet radio and you could find, you know, shows here and there. We didn't call them podcasts back then. We like it was Jim Bobba show that he publishes on his website. We used to listen to it every week. Financial Sense News Hour with Jim and John.

I can't remember his Costco O's name. And I remember interview after interview after interview hours upon hours. It's all I used to do when I was at work. And listening to this stuff. And it was just like I saw it then. I saw through it then. But still it takes even longer than that to like get it. And you know, it's it's a lot of work to get this.

I've said this to people all the time. You don't want to be me. You don't want to live like this. Like it sucks. Like I want to go out and get a real job. We need to get rid of all these people. So you can force me to go out and get a real job and actually produce something for a living other than vitriol. But, you know, it is what it is.

But unfortunately, because of the world we live in today, this is what we need. Right. We need the ability of people, even, you know, myself and all the, everybody, Sean, to sit down. and bring their expertise to the table, chat it out, trying to make sense of things for people so that they can then go out armed with better tools to then, you know, and they told two friends and they told two friends and changed the zeitgeist. We are changing the zeitgeist,

which is part of the reason why they weren't able to get rid of, get this thing, why we started off the show with were there three shooters? Because we know goddamn well that they wanted them dead. Yeah. And that's everybody's base case scenario. And now it's, you know, incumbent upon them to prove their, and we have to remain in what I like to call distrust but verify mode.

Like you don't trust but verify. You distrust them, assume they're lying, and then force them to tell you the truth. And that's that. But they'll never tell you the truth because they'll never admit to anything because they're narcissists. And narcissists don't back down. They double down. So the next thing for them to do will be, of course, to have to try again. But how are they going to do so at this point?

It is going to be very dangerous that they do. But they want the strike back. They want us, they want to punch us in the mouth so hard with such disdain and such derision that we finally just say, you know what, that's it. Picking up a rifle, honey, go put the kids, go somewhere and be safe because I'm not coming back. Well, and that's what they thought would happen. When Trump got shot at like 605 p.m. last Saturday, and they realized by 607 that they not got them, they were expecting everybody even crazier than Jamie and I to run out there, grab all their outfits and guns

in the U.S. and go start. And no Republicans rioted, no Republicans retaliated. No, it didn't happen. So they don't know how to shake this jar right now because everybody's put their faith in Trump. Everybody's like, we're just going to back Trump. We're just going to keep pushing him forward. One last second.

Okay. Going back to years ago there, Sean, when I first met you with Henry, and we, you know, we opened up that fucking rabbit hole with talking about a small divide. Where we are from then with that small divide being a centimeter apart, like our divide now is like the fucking Grand Canyon. Lots of division has happened since then. and I had my head stuck in the fucking sand back then and I pulled it out

and I'm looking around me now and it's from being in a few different war zones with civil wars and such it's scary where we are right now and for the sugar code that would be fucking that wouldn't be the right thing to do for anybody that's listening so I guess

I guess at the end of the day like we got to fucking be watching what's going on with their families and people around us and just keep calm no matter what's fucking happening because they want us to react badly. And that's the worst case scenario. Yeah. And on that point, guys,

and on that point, let's go there. Let's talk about what happened after Trump got shot. The best example imaginable was that fucking amazing crowd. Yes. Who stood out there and was like, and was worried about everything. And then Trump talks about it.

He's like, I stood up and no one had rioted and no one had lost their minds and they weren't trampling each other. And it wasn't a mass hysteria. It was everybody like, oh my God. And then he stood up and he's like, I knew in that moment I had to give them, I had to give them a message that I was okay. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't with the secret service, I almost think that Trump would have gotten back up and continued doing the speech. I agree.

And he had to do something. And then when he stood up and raised his fist, said, fight, fight, fight. and then they start chanting USA. USA. If Trump was unconscious and he didn't respond, there would have been riots in the street because people would have thought he was fucking dead. Like it would have been fucking back.

Agreed. Tucker Carlson said it very well about that moment that Tom's talking about. When that crowd reacted the way they did, Tucker broke it down as those. people and everybody that's supporting Trump have complete faith in his leadership and you have to have not just leadership I can run the country but there's a leadership in a situation like in combat if you have no faith in your leadership I can tell you the difference between how people react and how they don't and that was to me of near combat situation there were rounds flying people being hit and probably the most important figure in the world right now took one in the head and that crowd had such faith in him they reacted the way they did.

And there's a level of devotion and just pure faith that that's what the Democrats are finally afraid of now. And truck's a brilliant point and I'm glad you made it because I didn't have to which is because I was going to bring that up which is that this is what happens when you have leadership.

People don't panic. They don't. They don't. And then I don't urge people to watch like I didn't watch the 9-11 footage over and over and over again. I didn't wallow in it. I never did. I never marinate in this stuff when it happened. I watched it a couple of times and then I move on

because I don't want to be stuck in the trauma of the moment. So I watched the Trump shooting a few times to try and get a sense of what was happening. And then I watched the whole thing extended with the sound on as he's going to the car. And I can tell you

that was the first time I stopped analyzing it and I just felt it. Yes. Yeah. And when I felt that when I felt that crowd saying chanting that you're like oh

they're so fucked I am so proud of these people because they they weren't okay Trump is their leader and then they told us what we needed to do that's exactly

what Chuck just said don't panic don't riot you come together and you make a statement and you say, this is enough. You cannot take our country or our community or whatever you want to call it. Because it's not really even about the United States.

It's about the idea we are people. We are vital. We are not tax cows. And we are not your victims. You can go fuck yourself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Massive moment.

That is what they, have been just doing everything they can to take away from Americans. And in that moment, that's when America showed its leadership. Not when it sends a couple hundred thousand guys into Iraq or this or that. That's not leadership. This is leadership. The world is melting down and we're not going to let it happen. And you see how it's affected him now, A, Tom?

You see how it's, I mean, I'm not going to say he's a hum. humble man because Trump is Trump. And I think that's what people need from Trump is. For him, he's got to be bigger than life. And he is, thankfully. But you can see it on his face now and he walks up at the RMC convention, A, Tom. Like his expression now, there's a layer there that wasn't there before.

In my opinion. Absolutely. No, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, your, your instincts are absolutely correct, Chuck. I see the same thing. Yeah. Who do you think goes up against Kamala and why does she lose from the D&C convention? Who do they prop in there now?

Um, no, Kamala's going to be the candidate. She really, okay. Yeah, unless there's, unless there's some shenanigans at the convention that we don't know about. Okay. And, you want to get his way from there. She has all the cards. I've been saying, like Dexter White and I game playing the shit out three and a half years ago. Like, she has all the cards.

All she has to do is play them. If she's on Team Harris, she plays her cards. And she's played her cards. And so now that's that. So now the bigger question is, you know, know, how does everybody react to this and who's drawing the battle lines? If Harris says, everybody, she puts her, you know, metaphorically, she puts her dick on the table and says, look, you can't, you can't stop me. I know, I know she's not big Mike, so it's like, whatever.

But, you know, making weird gender, like, jokes at this point in time, it's just, it's odd, right? You know, no matter what you do, it's funny. And I guess it's just easy comedy at this point, but whatever. Like, when you stop and you think about it, right? She always had the opportunity to just put her cards on the table and look. I'm the vice president. He steps aside, I'm the president. You don't have any way of getting rid of me because I haven't done anything.

You have no good argument to get rid of me. I mean, when I see the Hill, we're on a piece on why Hillary Clinton has the experience and the resume and bubble, all the same shit we heard in 2016. I'm like, okay, Hillary, how much did you pay for that one? Yeah. Okay. Or how much Soros? How much did you pay for that one? You got to ask yourself that question.

I don't know. I'm not saying that the night. I mean, we still have like multiple nights of the long knives to come. Yes. Democratic Party. And that's going to be hilarious because this is a circular firing squad and I can't wait to watch it all go off. Okay. It's not going to be a tragedy like the end of reservoir dogs.

It's going to be just hilarious. And I don't care because all of these people deserve each other. Yes. And I just want it on pay-per-view. But then beyond. that, you know, whatever happens after that. The layer above those people, that's a, you know, again, we go back to what's going on in Ukraine, what's going on in Gaza.

I'm coming out and saying, I, we don't, we don't owe Taiwan anything. That's a big statement. There's a bunch going on here. You know, the Russians cut, cut some massive gas deal with the, with the Iranians. They're going to be distributing gas all over the Middle East. all into Central Asia. It's just, if everything is,

I'll be honest way, everything is, I hate to invoke Emperor Palpatine, but everything is proceeding as I have foreseen, other than Trump guy not getting shot, I mean, or not getting killed. So,

yeah, let's see how these things work out. I don't, these people all have their plans, but their plans are going gang or delay, right? And so, you know,

now we got to figure out how they're going to react in the breakdown period. And I don't, I don't have a good answer for all. all that stuff. So if anybody does, I'm more than willing to us. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's where I'm at too. Jens, any final, any final thoughts here before I, I'd like to let us all out of here. Yeah, Jamie, fire away. We have plenty of time, but it's a Sunday evening, and I appreciate

you guys giving me some time tonight. I guess I've never been one to think about somebody taking over. You cut out, Jamie. Say it again. Are you talking, Sean, or am I? Go ahead, Jamie. Yeah, anyway, yeah, I'm just going to be thinking about everything you guys brought up here. I just took a couple notes here while we're talking. I just never been down the rabbit hole of this deeper state that much. I've been looking more at, you know, the CIA and the FBI and the reasons why they'd want to kill Trump. But I also put a lot of blame towards China.

but but yeah there's something big going on and and hey just stay alert stay alive and and uh i guess sean my my question to you is is when are we going to do the kids life skill camping trip out at the beach here soon september is is my hope i i i i'd tom will get a kick out of this uh um um james and uh willie they do um uh like kids but i don't know what do you what do you call it You go back, shoot guns, navigate, et cetera, et cetera. Teach them actual life skills that they're going to need and have two decorated military guys doing it. Nice.

Yes, it's a lot of fun. We focus on leadership and teaching kids, you know, what they're really built of. So we push the kids and make them experience some successes and some failures. And they build on them. So we've been doing it for about three or four. years with our eight-year-olds and they just love it. So we're going to expand it to you. John's got his boys and nephews to come up.

My brood. Tom, any final thoughts? Chuck, any final thoughts before I let you boys out of here? Appreciate once again, you're giving me some time on a Sunday night. Final thoughts? I'm still amazed at how close, how fortunate we are. And by we, I mean the West as a royal we came, we're able to avoid something. horrible happening last Saturday, not just to Trump, but it would have affected everybody.

That would have cascaded to everybody. And there's that meme out there with a soldier sitting on the front of an old Russian vehicle and he looks back and he's like, I know it's bad right now, but friends, it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse. It's Tom mentioned shenanigans a minute ago with the DNC. They are famously adept at being the most shadyest people going. I'm not saying the Republicans don't have that ability as well. Obviously, they're all basically the same at that point.

What you have is Trumpians or Trumpomaniacs, as the big guy said, not long ago. We're in a whole different timeline now. So just like Jamie said, be safe, be aware of your surroundings. And I'd also like to say this. I watch that R&C convention. And I know some of the speakers took heat for their past and all of this other stuff and who they were up until even a few months ago. Look, we're always talking about growing the tent, even here in Canada.

If somebody has changed their view, and I think everybody has changed their views over time on certain things, and if some people have seen the light or been red-pilled or whatever you want to call it, then welcome into the tent. Let them come into the tent. You know, they've seen the light that we've been trying to shine on them for a very long time. Let them in, because we need all those voices. And I think people need to understand that. We're not, you want to close the door on certain people, then we're no better than the Democrats.

You just want to identify you by your race, gender, and whatever social economic construct, they want to, I just want everybody, I'm not left or right. I just want everybody to get along at some point. I've been to places in the world where they don't, and let me tell you, as much fun as I had there. A lot of people didn't. So I don't want that here. So anyway, thanks for having me on again. Sean and Tom, great to see you again, buddy. Jamie, you too.

Absolutely, Chuck. The only thing I'll add for that. The only thing I'll add to that, Chuck, and you're correct, is, you know, the time isn't really now to be looking outward, right? You know, Trump is, I'm sure, done a lot of inward work in the last week. A lot of people need to be doing that. And the people who are not doing that are they going to show themselves as we go forward here, because they're only. going to be thinking about how they can save themselves. And no matter what happens, you know, it does not matter, you know, where you are on what I've been saying this for a long time now.

It's going to be, you're not going to get out of this with thinking about big things. Big is not what's going to get us out of this. Small right around the corner, your neighbors, your friends, your family. I live early. I don't have a lot of people around me. But, you know, every time, every, every opportunity you can get to restore or renew your bond with people that you know and that you, you even nominally care about or even just like drive you fucking crazy whenever you hang out together. Guess what? The matter.

You share something. Find something that you agree on and move forward. And more importantly, the more you know about how this stuff works, the more you present it calmly. And you say, this is what we're going to do next. This is what I'm doing. You can do what you want. They're going to look to you in this moment in time as a resource. I go right back to something that Gary North used to say all the time. He said, now, make yourself an expert in something. Whatever it is. It doesn't matter. Because when the time comes and that thing is needed, everybody's going to turn to you because they're going to know that you're an expert in it because

you are the guy. You've made everybody aware that this is what you're an expert in. Right. And they don't have to agree with you about that thing. But when the time comes and it's a crisis period and they need that thing, they're going to ask you. And it's not going to matter what your politics were. And it's not going to, none of that's going to matter. It's going to matter is you know something that they don't. And they're going to. And so you need to be, you know, sharpen the stick, folks.

You know, add the skills, sharpen the sticks to whatever you have to do. Whatever you're good at, make sure you're up on it. And then present yourself as. as a resource and get outside your comfort zone a little bit because that'll also speak volumes. All right. That's what I got. Thanks, gents. Hold on for one sec after we shut down the stream.

But thanks everybody for tuning in tonight and to the podcast listener, you know, you got it firsthand as well because this comes out pretty much immediately after this is done. So thanks for everybody tuning in. Thanks, boys, for giving me a time on Sunday night. And I'll see how many more of these I do on the holiday. I was supposed to be, you know, July was supposed to be, let's get out of here. And, you know, and Mel, you know, this happens and Mel looks at me. And it's kind of like that knowing luck, like, you're in a podcast, aren't you? I'm like, yes, yes, I am.

So I appreciate you, boys, giving me some time tonight. No problem, Sean. Yeah, buddy. Stay alert, stay alone.