Shaun Newman Podcast - #693 - Wayne Peters

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

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make sure to subscribe, give us a like, and all that good stuff. Yes, it feels good to be back in the studio. I hope all your summer, all of your summer, holidays, travels, friends, family has been going well. I look forward to hearing from you. I'm back in the country, which means the phone is on,

and we'd love to hear from you guys. It's been an interesting summer. I had tons of fun with the family. I tried convincing Melda come on, and she laughed and said nobody wanted to hear that, and I started laughing. I'm like, I bet you they'd love to hear what 46 days away from home was like, 25 days of those directly on the road.

We did a giant road trip. And, you know, she just kind of laughed, and, you know, I'm sure she stares at me kind of cross-eyed when I ever invite her on there. Either way, it's been a journey. I'm excited to be back in studio and be back here. you know doing the show that I love doing and if there's people you want me to have me on

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into what it is and I want to help or I want the help to help guide it. Can I say that? Help, help. Anyways. Okay. Let's go on to that tale of the tape. He's the host of What's Up Canada and has built Looking Glass Media,

a platform for independent media away from censorship. I'm talking about Wayne Peters. So buckle up. Here we go. All right, welcome to the Shaw Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Wayne Peters. If you're just tuning in this morning, last night we did a live on What's Up Canada.

Wayne had me on for an hour. So if you're wondering where we're hopping off to, you could probably pause this. Go find the conversation on X. It's on my Facebook. It's on my ex. It's also on Wayne's. If you're wanting to hear the first hour of where we go,

we talk about Daniel Smith's, you know, the viral video that just popped out of nowhere. And it was an interview I'd done with her, well, the last interview I did with her back in January, talking about immigration. So if you're interested in hearing some of that, among other things, hop back to the first hour, which once again is on different social media platforms. You can also look into looking glass media.

That's where Wayne hangs his hat. Wayne, thanks for hopping on this side. It's good to have you back on the show. When you reach out to me, Sean, and say you're looking for an update. I always wonder whether you're careful what you ask for because you're going to get it sometimes. and I have a tendency to talk too much, but thanks for having me back again, submitting yourself to more of the insanity of Wayne's world.

I appreciate it. Well, you know, my audience knows, I think for the most part, this is my first time being back in studio in over 46 days. And it doesn't mean I haven't been podcasting. I've been podcasting, but, you know, certainly when I come to this room, it's a little different than doing it out of a hotel or somebody's basement, you know, yesterday, or I guess as we record this early in the day, I was in someone's bedroom, you know, like my college roommate, I said, I got to work.

Can I use that room? And they kind of laughed and off I went, you know, and that's that's the job now. I love it as I'm sure you enjoy interviewing people and everything else. But when I'm coming back to Canada, I'm like, okay, I got to figure out. what the heck is going on here. There's lots of different conversations that need to have. For some reason, you always come to mind it because you don't sugarcoat it. You're paying attention to different things, I feel, than a lot of people.

And, you know, you haven't really steered me wrong when we're looking at things a little further out and how it's going to impact Canada. So, Wayne, lay it down on us. You know, hit me between the eyes if you shall. And let's see where we go with this thing. It's something that I've kind of learned to accept a little bit, to be honest with you. And it's just, I guess, by my nature and how I think that a lot of my work tends to be ahead of the Overton window. And I've really been noticing and seeing that, you know, kind of like, you know, this recent incident with your video going viral, you know, nine or eight months after the fact.

Sometimes people aren't ready for the conversations, but it's important for us. to have them anyways because we never know when the people are going to be ready for it. So something that I've been quite a lot more conscious of lately and very grateful for hearing the messages of, you know, that I get these days from people saying, dang, you were right. I thought you were nuts. I get quite a lot of that these days. But, you know, I'm just glad that people are paying attention to different things. And that's kind of what I try to do.

You know, it's real easy to get caught up in the rage porn, the fear porn, the sensationalism. I become acutely aware of, you know, the new media environment, shall we say, is very emotional and sometimes erratic and unstable. And I try to steer away from that and just always to try and find people that are smarter than myself that have answers to questions that I can't. answer. And I, you know, acutely aware of what's going on, you know, internationally, because I, I've come to realize that so much of what we're experiencing here in Canada is a textbook blueprint that's being enacted all over the planet, or in many places on the planet. And a lot of the things that are actually the source of what we're experiencing in Canada are happening outside of Canada and those influences maybe tend to get overlooked a little bit, excuse me, or maybe,

you know, not looked into deep enough. So that's kind of where I tend to hang my hat and stick my nose into places where it doesn't belong and talk about things that are, you know, sometimes uncomfortable, but sooner or later, they need to be discussed. So at least I've got a reference point for it. So that's just kind of how I roll. I just, do what I do. I don't think of it. It's not a, it's not a business. It's not a career I dreamt of doing. I mean, it's just something that I kind of was called to do and found that I maybe had a little bit of aptitude for triggering people with the truth and decided to run with that. And if not me, then who? So I was frustrated that I thought a rock could do better than what we

were getting delivered as far as for information. So I just kind of made it my thing. Well, I tell you what in your thing that you're doing right now what's sticking out you you know you you kind of alluded to in the first hour and uh you know i kind of brushed it off but you you alluded to the new pandemic um you know um certainly what's going on in the UK uh there's probably some other things that I'm missing but you know like when you when you look at the world today what's sticking out to you what are you keeping tabs on and staring at oh there there's a couple a couple of things I think that we're, you know, some of the most important nations are being distracted in different directions. I look at America and I, you know, I love my American friends, neighbors, and family, but I want to give them a great big shake and say, I'm not trying to tell you that what's going on in Canada because I want you to save Canada.

That's not my point at all. I'm trying to talk to you guys to let you know that your enemy has got a prime position. for you know to trap and and and sabotage America and that's being manifested here in Canada they have a big problem brewing here in Canada based on the end the the loosely termed immigration but I would more likely call it a migrant an invasionary migrant force so you know there's there's all kinds of things like that that I'm really concerned with I don't think that people put enough into contact to what's in America what's brewing in their backyard.

I think Americans have been largely deceived as well as Canada as to what's going on in the rest of the world. The conflict in Ukraine, 100% deception on that from day one to where we're at. And right now my biggest fear is that the response to what's going on in the Middle East is going to end up ultimately with a couple of American carrier fleets being turned into submarine fleets because the hubris of the impostors and infiltrators in government at every level are leading people by the nose through false bravado and ego saying that these are the things that America and in our country by default need to get involved in. And it's a zero-sum win game for anybody. And it's disturbing to me knowing that everything the Western world comes,

could muster and give to Ukraine to throw at Russia short of nuclear weapons, the Russians have giggled at and basically obliterated. If the entire Western world can't defeat Russia there, what makes them think that Russian-supplied nations like Iran and these other hostile nations in the Middle East are not going to have every bit of capability that Russian has used there. So we're seeing it right now in Israel with Palestine or pardon me, Lebanon and some of these other nations literally maxing out to the Iron Dome and beating it. And that's the best that Israel has.

The Yemenis are having their way with all shipping, American included. this is brewing into something that America is not going to be able to deal with, and I'm really, really disturbed by the potential of human lives that are going to be lost in this zero-win game, that these people that have captured our government and are wash, rinse, repeating this cycle of history. Every time the globalists start to lose control, what do we get another world war?

And this is basically where we're at here now, and they are desperately, desperately trying to cling to power. This military-industrial complex is, you know, in an existential battle against forces that we don't necessarily see and interpret and understand in the correct language. That's still some really big deceptions that are going on that really concern me. People, you know, why, you know, they ask, in all of the Western nations, why so much migration, and immigration. Why, why, why, why, why, why? Well, we all signed into us with the UNSDA and the migration compacts and our leading candidates in both parties here in Canada, have signed on to that. I covered last night where CESIS has said, every one of our prime ministers has been compromised

and engaged in illegal activities in our country going back as far as Brian Mulrooney, conveniently excluding Trudeau Sr., who actually bears a lot of responsibility in opening up to the door to the devastation and destruction of Canada. This is one thing that kind of bugs me. Everybody is worried about communism, communism, communism, but they never called the equalization communism once they called it equalization. You know, take from the haves and gives to the have-nots. So that was the biggest act of communism that we accepted in Canada as a population going back way long ways. So this is going to going on for a very, very long time. We're being led down the garden path.

Everything that we know, our entire perception of reality has been a lie. And it's being unpacked and uncovered incredibly quickly. And these people that have signed onto these non-binding agreements are literally fulfilling. the obligations of the largest voting block at the United Nations, which does not have any of our best interests at heart. We don't question or wonder how a confirmed genocidal maniac like Alejandro Tedros becomes the head of the world's largest health organization that suddenly now has the power to decide what we do in our countries based on their decrees and edicts or how a country's like, what is it, Nigeria heads the human rights commissions and tells us now that Canada is failing. It's a slave economy.

Why? Because we're not doing enough to support migration and immigration. This is literally organizations that have networked at the behest of the OIC to literally destroy our nations and invade us without firing a shot. Okay. You just said an awful lot. So I'm going to go back to immigration. It seems to be a hot topic.

You know, and certainly back a while back on the show when I'd had Premier on, that was talked about just kind of off the cuff. And you just said a whole bunch of stuff that I'm like, all right, now I got to know more about it, right? You just said Nigeria is the head, and there's Colin Kandau, because we're not taking enough people. Now, I may have just but you've got to explain this to me a little more in depth, so I can grasp what you're saying.

Basically, UN human rights is now laid out a decree saying that we are guilty of creating a slave economy. That's what our government is doing here in Canada. We're importing slavery through legalized slavery. That's the accusation. It's such an inversion of everything. Everything is inverted at this point. The justice system is inverted. The political systems are inverted.

They use these language tactics. I had a guest on last week. You should interview this guy named David Charlambo, who's a communications expert. And the language gymnastics and hula hoops that they make us go through to believe and accept that unmitigated migration is a free human right. this is the ideology driving behind the United Nations. Why do they want this to be an unmitigated human right so that they could do exactly what they did in Sweden and in England and in Ireland and now in Canada?

These people that our leadership, quote unquote, answers to, do not believe in our rights as, Canadians per se to have sovereign freedoms and Canada first, no. This is what we're being led into through these migration compacts that, you know, the conservatives and liberals alike signed on to these agreements. So by doing this, and this is one of the thing that really triggers me, Sean, everybody in Canada is screaming about the 11, the 11, the 11 that are compromised by China. well, what about the 338 that are compromised by unelected entities like the United Nations and the WHO and WEF out of Geneva?

Why are we adopting Canadian policy without inputs to it that is dreamt up in Geneva and sponsored by the Organization of Islamic Coalition? They create the policy. The UN makes it international law, tells the rest of the world, the Western world, that now you must open your board. for all of these people. And this is how we end up with this conception that unmitigated immigration is what they call it, but it's actually invasion through mass migration that they've made now policy.

No Canadian got asked about that. Yes, every nation needs a certain amount of immigration, but the idea has always been for immigration for assimilation. You come to Canada to be Canadian. not to come to Canada to demand that we fight in Palestine and Israel like we're seeing on the streets right now. You don't come to Canada and demand that we change our commerce system to accommodate foreign religions that are absolutely incompatible with our society. The fastest way to recreate the Crusades is to stick a bunch of Christians and a bunch of radical political Islam in the same. space and say fight it out because we don't have any moderation we'd have a two-tier legal system which

we're seeing the results of in the ukk which is 100% coming to canada in bill c63 and if you object from as we're seeing in the ukk five days from the time of posting a facebook post to being sentenced and incarcerated for 30 months that's what bill 60 c63 is going to get us your in Canada. If you have a problem with this level of migration, this is the end result once Trudeau has this bill in place. Walk me through this story in the UK, the Facebook post to 30 months in jail. Who was it? What was the post? Do you know any of the details in regards to that? There's more polls at this point. I have been talking to some folks in the UK doing be on a show there as well tomorrow, as well as with Ireland.

I got a chance to co-host a show with Ireland. In one particular case, Ezra is there right now, in fact, where a community of 200 people has just been told they're getting 280, 280 Middle Eastern refugees are now in their town. So they have instantly had their population more than doubled with a hostile culture. And the people that are getting arrested for the people that took offense to the, they say he was born in England. But what people don't understand is this guy, they say he was of Rwandan descent, born in England. And he stabbed a bunch of people.

Three young girls died at a Taylor Swift dance lesson. and he's supposed to be off the hook because he was born in the UK. But yet when you go to these places in the UK, they're no go zones. Those people don't speak English, even if they're born there. They are so secular that the police don't go there. They have their own police. This is what England has already become. So when this event like this happens, the native born, the ethnically English come out and protest in 50,000 plus numbers, and it gets ugly.

And people are angry. They've had this knife crime and rape crime overwhelming their country for more than a decade. Tommy Robinson has been the, you know, to Juliannege. I watched, I watched, I assume you paid close attention when Tommy Robinson was in Canada. Yes, that's another thing that happened while I was gone. Can you, can you break that? Before we get to it, I just want to quickly on a sidebar. Can you break that down for me?

Yes? Just yes or no? Not really. Not really. I'm going to have to, it's somebody out there who's listening to this today. I would love to, A, I'd love to have Tommy Robinson on, but two, I would love to have somebody who knows what the heck happened here because I was gone for that and I just, you know, social media exploded over Canada taking away his passport and I don't know the ins and outs of it.

I do know. I'm rigged now. I'm going to say I don't know the ins and outs of it. There was once again too much going on. But he released a documentary on the bullying of the one kid. And, you know, I was sitting there one day. I'm like, I should just figure out like, just go watch it. Let's see what happens.

And it unnerved me that the documentary did because of. the way media portrayed the two kids, which is, you know, once again, it's media, so that didn't shock me. What shocked me was him going around to all the townspeople. Now, I'm taking this for a legit. This actually happened, his undercover, you know, like, I, you know, I don't know, you know, once again,

we live in this world where I'm like, is this actually factual? Like, this is how it went down? All these interviews behind closed doors with a secret camera and they were this open. Like, is this actually what happened? And I don't know. But the thing that bugged me the most was people saying, well, I can't speak up.

I'm going to lose my job. And I'm like, but they're two kids. And everybody knows that the story is not true. And it just really, really bothered me what was exposed in that documentary if it is bang on the truth. So I can't speak to some of the event, to what happened here in Canada. But I have been following Tommy's story and what he's been doing for a decade since I was there. I know some people that are mutual friends. with Tom, right? So this has been something, you know, I have friends that are living this

same experience over there. So I can tell you that Tommy comes from a hard upbringing. He is not your Ivy League educated individual. He was a guy that was a victim of the system and then has been repeatedly victimized and victimized and just persecuted to no end. Tommy's story is very genuine. But, and the, the documentary, I have no, not a shred of anybody that can denounce the facts behind that. And I've, you know, been paid very close attention to it. But what people have to understand is somebody like Tommy will take opportunities as they come. He is, he never knows from one minute to the next, whether he's going to be in a prison, he's going to be back in Belmarsh or is he not? He will take opportunity and risks like nobody else will. What happened

with his coming here and the documentation behind that, I can't speak to that. But would he take a risk to his own security and safety to have an opportunity to go out and beat the drum and scream on the horn some more? Absolutely he would do that. He reminds me so much of what they call travelers over there. We call them gypsies, the hard people, the grassroots. He didn't ask for this fight, but

he was tired of watching people getting stabbed and cut up and raped around him. He's been fighting the rape gangs for a very long time, and he's not wrong on any of it. But people are, it's been so terrified by the government's response if they should say anything.

So here we are now, where, you know, three little girls get murdered and people are outraged by this and the fellow that just got 30 months was for a satirical style of pose i don't know specifically the post but yes from arrest to conviction five days for a social media post to post on facebook this is rampant around there and it's literally isolated towards that event that riot at this point but at this point the the precedence is set They have made promises that they're going to arrest anybody that shares or talks about this. And so far, if you're in the UK, they're living up to that.

People are still being arrested for posting in the UK about that specific event. And now that's brought out to Islamophobia, where the police have been recorded in the mosques, promising they will be protected over the outrage. So this is a Guardian article out of the UK. it says that two men have been sent to prison for stirring up hatred and violence online after the Southport attack in the first cases of their kind linked to the recent riots seen across the country. Jordan Parlor, 28, was jailed for 20 months after pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred with Facebook posts in which he advocated an attack on a hotel in Leeds as part of the violent public disorder that swept England last week.

And then Northampton, Tyler K. 26 was given three years and two months in prison for posts on exit called for mass deportation and for people to set fire to hotels, hotels housing asylum seekers. That's the two that I, do you see there? You know, I can, I can. A little bit more context. This is the Guardian after all. What they were talking about was a specific shelter that had been, had basically kicked out all of the locals and promised it all to immigration to new migrants in a very small place. The townspeople said, no, enough is enough, we're having none of it.

It escalated. The townspeople said, if you put them in there, we'll burn it to the ground. Now we have the Guardian Arctic. Well, one of the things that we both know very well is, as I read it, I'm like, okay, so who the heck do I call to find out the real story, you know, because it's almost 100% for sure at this point. when you read a story that frames it one way, it's like, okay, well, I just want to talk to somebody else to see, you know, if there's some nuance

in what was actually being said, and you're already giving it to me, Wayne. It's one of the things that, you know, sitting in this chair, we know very well from the time of the Freedom Convoy, and, you know, I don't know, these two guys who just got, you know, told they weren't, didn't, they were found not guilty of committing conspiracy to commit murder, you know, like the coupons four, you know,

it's like, it's like, 200 kilometers away. Right? Like, I mean, we have our own things going on here in Canada where I'm like, okay, this is, you know, at some point, you know, like, okay. You know, another guy that comes to mind is Jeremy McKenzie because I think, and forgive me if Jeremy is listening. I forget how many charges was it? Was it 26 folks? I want to say it was 24, 26 charges.

He's been acquitted of all of them, you know, and that doesn't get anywhere. All of the runtime is on him being. drunken disorder later and saying some uncouth things about a woman who is married to a different man who could be our prime minister and certainly you know like i i've i've had my time with jeremy on this show talking briefly about it and um you know at the end of the day that's a guy who got arrested as well you know and and you go so what were his crimes i'm like you know for having a uh cocaine time traveling goat that's right and you're like uh uh like uh like So we live in our own, you know, we stare at the UK and we go, what the heck is going on there?

And then I go, we live in Canada where, you know, like we got our own problems. And when you talk about immigration and different things, I think people see the UK and, you know, and you can't take the fear of what's going on in different places and impose it on what's happening in Canada. At the same time, you can't not pay attention to what's happening in Europe and not realize that those similar problems lag a little bit over here. I don't know, maybe you disagree with me on that. No, I don't. I 100% agree. And to response to Jeremy McKenzie, I'm pretty sure if Howard Stern saw anything that Jeremy McKenzie says,

he's probably thinking, boy, I dodged a bullet by 10 years, didn't I? But he got the shots. So he's fine to say whatever he wants to say. Right. Right? Like, I mean. 10 years ago, there is nothing. you know, that Jeremy has said now that people would have battered an eyelash at 10 years ago,

Andrew Dice Clay. You know, like it's just, you know, the things that were accepted then that are now a criminal offense for speaking even. Do you think, sorry to cut you off, do you think in the next, I don't want to go too long and I don't want to go too short, next 10 years, in the next decade, no, by the 2030, that's six years away. we will have people arrested in Canada for online, I don't know, hate. I don't even know what to call it at this point, but do you think we're in the realm of seeing people, or are we already there?

My audience, you know, I love them all, and I'm going to get a whole bunch of texting and say, Sean, how about this and this and this and I'm like, all right, so maybe we're already there. But for some reason, I'm, you know, like I'm coming off of driving, you know, and I'm sitting here going like, are we already there, Wayne, or are we going to see this here before 2030? We've had two people that I can remember clearly and distinctly that have been arrested for posting on social media of, you know, what they used to do to traitors back in the day should be done again kind of thing,

have been arrested for uttering death threats against elected officials. And they're trying to expand on that. they were talking about this a couple of weeks ago where there's been an 800% increase in in rage at elected officials so now they need extra security right right right that's the hardest thing with that right is like they take no responsibility for the atmosphere they have created the scenario they've created it's like well we've done no wrong we got everything right we're so great I don't know why people are yelling at us this is all drummed up by these independent folk who, you know, we got, really got to hone that in because they're,

they're drumming up all these conspiracy theories and it's all lies. It's like me and all the rest of us going, we literally lived through it, you dummies. Like, I mean, like, you can't lie your way out of this. I mean, there's just insanity happening around us. It's like, you know, that, that meme of the dog in the burning building, this is fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. You know, like, the politics is, oh, we need more protection because these people are being racist, misogynist, whatever the word is. And you're like, while I agree with some things that have been said about you that shouldn't be, because I'm a firm believer, you shouldn't attack one's character, right?

Like, I, well, I could maybe be swayed on a few occasions. But for the most part, beat me with arguments, beat me with ideas, on and on it goes, right? But at the same time, there's no responsibility taken for where they've created, you know, like somebody who's maybe got a loved one who's vaccine. We're going to, you know, go there. I can see why they're a little pissed off, can't you? I would think a politician could too. And yet they just abdiscate all responsibility.

Like, it's not a big deal. I didn't, you know, like, we've been doing such a great job. Chirassan, why is everybody so mad at us? It's like, we just lived through it, you morons. And the only thing that stopped it was going to Ottawa and then having the entire media complex of Canada come after anyone who went there. It's like, maybe just take a step back and maybe go,

hmm, something seems off. they want to be elected, but they don't want to accept the representation part of that. They want the pension and the space, but they don't want to listen to the population. They want to blame the population because we are too dumb to know any different. That talking Tater Talk, Christian Freeland, is the most exasperating thing that I've ever been forced to listen. You know, this has been the best about being at a conversation. country. He's like, I didn't hear anything from Christopher England. Um, you know, it's funny. I did run it, I did run into several Americans who didn't have very kind things to say about

Trudeau. And I'm like, well, that's fascinating, right? Like, and then I'm getting gutted down there from both sides. Yes, he is. And the, the only crazy thing was about being down there and then Biden stepping down and Kamala, uh, stepping out and then seeing some of her like talking. I'm like, oh my God, they got their own version of Trudeau. Like, it's almost uncans. many at times when she gets asked like a really, I don't even know, is it a tough question? It just seems like out of the equation of what they're normally asked. And she has those same pauses like Trudeau does. I'm like, oh my God, it's right in front of us.

They are cookie cutters. They are pretty cookie cutter clone troopers. They are all meat Muppets. They all answer to the same programming to the exact same hive. Meat Muppets. They are. They don't have an original thought in their body, and they regurgitate the same programming exactly as the next. And it's the same programming that we get from Pierce Starmor now.

It's the same programming that you get from Macron. And anybody that objects to that, look at what some of the other things that are happening in Europe. And don't let me forget to go back to here, but we got drug away from something else. that's critically important when it comes back to Jeremy McKenzie. The majority of those charges were laid based on information that was submitted and claims that were made by an organization called the anti-hate network.ca. Okay. This is critical for people to know. Blacklocks has just put out a report this week exposing more than $800,000 that our federal government has paid to the anti-hate network.com.

to buy a handbook of how to basically label and destroy all Canadians, Catholics as the next greatest dangerous threats to Canada. Catholics are the existential threat now based on this. But it's critical. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Tom Korski is coming on next week. And we're going to ask him about said report.

Carry on. Absolutely. Fantastic. Can I be a fly on the wall? Because I've got some stuff that I guarantee he doesn't know about those organizations. So I ripped in and let him know that I credited him and played some of his stuff on my show last night as I was adding more color and context to these guys. But these guys are ultra-silent assassins. And it's interesting how they're directly connected to George Soros, Southern Poverty Law Center. And he's on to that part and that side of it.

What he's not seeing yet is their connection to an organization called T-S-A-S, which is an acronym for Terrorism, Security, and Society. And what that is is it's a non-profit NGO coordinated by Ahmed Hussein. Yes, Trudeau's Pet Ahmed Hussein, that one. where they have 350 or 400 contributing writers that infiltrate the conservative movement across this country and report back to this organization. They compile white papers that then go out to Christian Freeland CISCMP, the military, every alphabet agency in five eyes.

And then we get to Christian Freeland reading directly those reports from that agency to the United Nations, saying that far-right nationalism is the existential threats to the world. That is literally the circle jerk of circle jerks are government financing Antifa to write white paper reports to declare us as the most dangerous criminals in Canada. And that was the organization that is responsible for Jeremy McKenzie's grief. How's that for a story, my friend? Can you say what T-S-A-S stands for again? Terrorism, Security, and Society.

It's a social re-engineering think tank. Man, okay. With access to the highest levels of security and reports. Have you ever given thought to, like, okay, you want, let's just play out. We get somebody else elected. And then the goal would be to defund that group so that they don't get any funding or whatever. They're Jewish.

You'd be anti-Semitic. So is there a way to get our own terrorism unit that sends off reports showing different things? Or that's just not how this is going to work? We're doing that in full disclosure. It's literally what you're going to be talking about when you have him on. When is it Thursday? it's literally what they're writing reports out at Black Rocks and you know I I bow before

them for finally somebody else is onto these guys but please dig deeper it's way way danker yet than what but what what you love about black locks okay what I love about black locks they just follow the money and then they show where the money's going and it's on you know I I thought about this for a long time way you know one of the the things about leaving for as long as I did. I'm going to get philosophical, as my wife would say, on the car drive. Oh, you're going on in philosophy. Anyways. Hey, I read a poem on my show last night, dude.

What poem? The gods of the copyright. Interesting. What, what, you're getting me sidetracked. What was it about that poem? You were like, I got to read this. It was written in 1919, directly post-World War I. And it was as poignant a warning as Orwell as to what was coming for the rest of the world, basically, if we don't heed some of the things that are going in. Yeah, the gods of the copybook headings by Rudyard Kipling. Very profound. Very profound.

Gods. Say that again. Gods? the gods of the copybook headings you find it on my substack well you got me curious and i'm i'm getting you to say it uh one more time so that uh people will be able find it because i'm like i know i'm going to get text tomorrow and go what was that called uh and it's it's of the copybook headings basically headlines right back in the days when they used to write copy and articles so the headlines. Oh, screw it. Here we go in prompt.

I'll read it too. What the heck. This way, you know, you got me curious now. As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper prostrations to the gods of the marketplace.

Peering through reverent fingers, I watched them flourish and fall in the gods of the copy book, headings, I noticed, outlast them all. We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us in turn that water would certainly wet us, as fire would certainly burn. We found them lacking in uplift,

vision and breadth of mind, so we left them to teach the guerrillas while we followed the march of mankind. We moved as the spirit listed. They never altered their pace, being neither cloud nor wind-born like the gods of the marketplace. But they always caught up with our progress and presently word would come that a tribe had wiped off its ice field or the lights had gone out in Rome. With the hopes that our world is built on they were utterly out of touch. They denied the moon was Stilton, they denied she was even Dutch. They denied the wishes were horses. They denied that a pig had wings. So we worshipped the gods of market who promised these beautiful things. When the Cambrian measures were forming, they promised perpetual peace. They swore if we gave them our weapons

that the wars of tribes would cease. But when we disarmed, they sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, and the gods of the copy book heading said, stick to the devil you know. On the first femininity, sandstones we were promised the fuller life which started by loving our neighbor and ended by loving his wife till our woman had no more children and the men lost reason and faith and the gods of the copy book heading said the wages of sin is death in Carboniferous epoch we were promised abundance for all by robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul but though we had plenty of money there was nothing our money could buy and the gods of the copybook heading said if you don't work you

die then the gods of the mark market tumbled and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew and the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true that all is not gold that glitters and two and two make four and the gods of the copybook headings limped up limped up to explain it once more as it will be in the future it was at the birth of man there are only four things certain since social progress began that the dog returns to his vomit and the sow returns to her mire and the burnt fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling wobbling back to the fire. And that after this is accomplished and the brave new world begins, when all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,

as surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the gods of the copy book headings will tear and slaughter will return. And slaughter return. I should say that. And that is right off the gods of copy book headings, the Kipling Society.

That's easy to find. Tell me that's not about exactly as accurate as Orwell. So I question who wrote the first playbook? Well, I, okay. I wrote down the blacklock things.

I'm going to put that on. I'm just going to pin that over there for a second. So on my road trip, I finished Atlas Shrugged, and then I finished Fountainhead, both by Anne Rand. Okay? Have you read either?

No, I have not, but they're on my list. Okay. A blonde lady. There's, there's something that has been, you know, and I've read part of the fourth turning. I was saying to the wife today, I was he drove. I'm like, it really makes me want to finish that book.

I don't know why it bothered me so much, but it did on some level because I, you know, it's talking about cycles and different, you know, generations and how they impact the world and on and on and on and I'm looking at, you know, we talk, everybody talks about 1984. Like, I don't know of a single person that doesn't. And then when you start to look into where we're at with genetic, and cloning and on and on and on, you know, Aldous Huxley is going to come up, right?

Brave New World, because you go read that book and you're like, hmm, and then I went and read these two by Anne Red. And, you know, I sit back and I look at,

you know, the years they were published, and, you know, I'm going rough here, 1920 to 1950. Let's just, you know, I think Atlas Shrug was 57.

You kind of get the, you get the gist, right? It was in a window of time. And it echoes so much with what's going on right now. And I'm sitting there going, huh, those are profound books. You know, you talk about your poem or you read your poem. Well, I've read your poem. Not your poem, but, you know, the poem that speaks to you. And you go, isn't that profound? And I go, what's profound to me is 100 years ago, give or take, people could see where we were heading.

It took longer than they thought. Not that the problems weren't there. they certainly were, but to metastasize to where they're currently at took longer than they thought, but they could see it. And a lot of people couldn't or wouldn't come to terms with it. It's very, I don't know, I don't know what thought I'm trying to build upon their, Wayne, you're just into my brain of where I've come off a road trip. And I'm like, for some reason, that's profound to me because I'm trying to, I'm like, now I got to go read the biographies of all these authors so I can understand how they

found a way to see what other people couldn't see to write these profound stories. Because, like, when you think about it, they saw something that others would have saw. And I wonder how many of them just went on with their daily life and just carried on and went, there's nothing wrong. You know, the world's carrying on. And yet, here we are talking about all these authors that wrote something so profound that echoes across time and you can go back further than that and see things that you're like man that is profound like how did he know how did they know and yet these three authors in particular wrote things

in a really tight little segment of time and you're like what was it what was it happening there obviously world wars obviously big giant things that's why i think of the fourth turning and as i talk i'm like i'm going to have to go revisit that book uh what say you well It's part and parcel for where we're at. Why it's, why did it take longer? Because those books were still in the, in, you know, being referenced as warnings. Those books were being interpreted for 50, 60 years as don't do this, beware this, you know, and so people saw it coming. Over the last two, three decades, where we've moved away from an education system that provides value.

and productivity to our nation, you know, legitimate education, history being a big part of that, you know, to not repeat history. Those things have been replaced. You know, kids can't tell you who Rudyard Kipling was or probably even who George Orwell was. Orrwell was who was Herman Gehring. They're not going to have a clue about any of those kinds of things, but they'll tell you 852 gender traits among 73 genders and what is the the proper way to address somebody or communicate somebody in this pseudo language so it's no surprise to me that people that aren't exposed to the the the

wisdom of history you know and not i've learned to to to adapt the phrase you know that the old phrase used to be those who do not you know know history are doomed to repeat it um i i don't think that history repeats specifically, but a darn skippy sings in harmony. And when you make the adjustment and understanding the physical machinations behind it, where these evil, dark ideologies that have cycled and repeated trying to conquer the world, conquest, conquest, conquest, have throughout the eons sought to leverage new technology to conquest their enemy. They, you know, they're There's inherent, I don't like to use the word hatred, but there's inherent opposition. There is always competition.

Somebody always wants what somebody else has. And this has been going on since the beginning of time, whether it was Napoleon before or Hitler in 43 or some could argue even some people in America today. When you look at colonization and conquest around the world, they're using technology to get what they want from. other parts of the world. So when we can't understand how this, we could be so dangerously close to this without understanding that, A, the internet has allowed them to do what they do at scale, which is before they had to do it classroom by classroom by classroom. So this is why it's exponentially quicker now.

And they have control over that space. This is why our censorship is so critically important because censorship alone does nothing. Censorship is symbiotic to propaganda. Propaganda without censorship does nothing if there is. Propaganda does nothing if there is open dialogue. So they need censorship. Censorship doesn't work unless you've got a message to repeat something to fill the space. So we have this perfection of things like NLP,

MK Ultra programs, going back to World War I in medical experimentation, make no mistake, who doesn't matter because they won the war, didn't mean they took every bit of knowledge that they could get from the enemies. And our own governments spent decades and generations perfecting some of these things, initially with the intent for protecting us. But now we've gotten to a point where they cannot succeed outside. of their own nations and their space, the world is on to them. So now we become the host that they eat and turn inward on and now lay their plague down on us.

They're not going to get away with this shit in Russia anymore. They're not going to get away with this shit in Africa anymore. They're not getting away with it in South America anymore, but the beast must be fed. So it's turned inward upon us. And we are the unsuspecting people that have never had to fight for ourselves. and we are incredibly susceptible to all of these things. You know, you can't talk about Orwell in these books without addressing Uri Besmanoff telling us the antidote

and how long it was going to be. He gave us all of that in 1985. It's only become relevant now. You know, some people might argue that that poem or Orwell or Anne Rand's books might be more relevant now than they were when they were written, right? So it's, there's a lot. A lot that goes to it, but as long as we continue to head down this trajectory where our entire social value is invested and connected to this pseudo-fake ready player one universe,

so this digital avatar universe, if we're 100% invested in that, we're never going to escape that because they control all of that. So the machine meets the ideology at world scale. And this is, you know, they don't have the same level of programming ability all over Africa or all over Russia or all over China. It's not going to happen. Right. So their ability to harvest and extract is their net is getting smaller. And we have to be the cancer from within. And that's exactly how they see us now.

So, you know, they can't, they're not going to get away with pulling a, you know, a mustache man's scenario here. They're not yet going to get away. Well, they're working on, you know, the Mao concept here, you know, starve them into submission. I think we're, they're, I think they're wounded and they're dangerous right now. And where they're leading us with all of this in the next year or two is going to be what's going to critically. decide whether humanity escapes this, in my opinion or not. And the danger, the biggest danger that I see right now, Sean, is 42% of our employed in Canada work for the government. And out of the other segment of the currently employed, almost all in the retail and migrant sector

are 75% subsidized by the government. Now, you tell me any store that you go, into that is not overwhelmingly of a new Canadian employee base. Every one of those people is subsidized basically by the government. So now if all of a sudden the economy collapses and they say, we'll give you guys a UBI and digital currency and you guys can feed yourself, how many people are not going to be dependent on that? How many people are not going to say yes in a heartbeat? So all of a set of a proposal of that are going to get absolutely overrun.

by the 42% that work in government and the rest that are funded by the government. So that's what I see is the existential threat right now. Yeah, my brain goes to, you know, I go back to the black locks thing, rewind it back to black locks. Blacklocks does one thing extremely well. They follow the money because the money doesn't lie. The money trail shows you exactly what's getting funded, how it's getting funded on and on. And as you pointed out, I wish they would dig a little deeper.

And I go, we all have a part to play. Blacklocks, a married couple, right, with a couple other employees, Tom Korski, Holly Donne, they've both been guests of the podcast, are two people that do more lifting in this country than any couple that I know. And that's not slighting anyone. It's just insane what they're able to accomplish. They are elite-level researchers, 100%. And it's on, when they give you something like that,

it's on different parts of the independent media to grab it and dig a little deeper. You know, and I look at, you know, I look at the coots for, you know, and I'm like, man, would I love to be there every day? Like, honestly, my answer is probably no. And that probably isn't the answer, Maybe that's what people thought.

I don't know. I don't want to be a beat reporter. I want to interview the beat reporter, and I want them to tell my audience what the hell is going on. And yet, in Ottawa, we were all beat reporters. And you go, we all have our part to play here.

And, you know, when you go back to Blacklock, it's like, they're doing something exceptionally well. If all of us started doing our part exceptionally well, what would Canada look like? 100%. You're starting to see some different people starting to... I don't know, grow, build some things, and it's interesting to watch, you know,

and we're going to see here over the next, what is it, year? There's a decade, right? Like within, you know, unless Trudeau gets back in, I just, I have a hard time, Wayne, seeing how that's humanly possible. Everybody seems to hate them. Obviously, election fraud, okay, okay, fair. But other than that, I just have a hard time seeing it. Could be wrong.

Could be wrong. but I have a hard time seeing it, which then means the next guy who comes in is he going to access CBC. Let's assume that plays out. Now you have a vacuum of like, where are you getting your news sources from?

I mean, and there are a few starting to come to the forefront, you know, like, I'm not, you know, it's funny. I was irritated by,

you know, as we listened to, um, uh, Corey Morgan, talk to Daniel Smith. I'm like, why doesn't he just say it was a Sean Newman

podcast interview. But in fairness, I'll take some of the heat on my side. I probably on the mashup, don't give credit to every article. And as I sat in there watching, I'm like, well, I need to do better because I can do better. I can give credit where credits do. So there are some news agency independent styles that are slowly rising to the top. And if all of a sudden the CBC disappeared tomorrow, you know, I wonder how many of us would even notice it going and probably be like, like, would anything really change? I know everybody's like, oh, the Olympic coverage. I'm like, I don't know. You know, like maybe.

Other than that, it's like, what do they actually have anymore? You know, they don't really have much. So I go back to all of us, if we play our part, whatever part that is. For some, it's the beat reporter sitting in Coots, making sure everybody knows, and then it's on another to bring that person onto a show to funnel more people there. If we all started doing our role exceptionally well, what would Candle look like? Well, it'd look a hell of a lot better than where it's at. currently and I give Blacklocks a ton of props for what they do.

And I don't know, that's, that's where my brain goes. You're 100% correct, you know, and I, I'm encouraged by what I see out there in that, you know, when I, when I started, I was basically that beat guy. I was running my ass across this country, left to the east to west, trying to keep up with everything. I am grateful now that I don't have to be the guy in Coots to cover that. And I actually had somebody try to shame me the other day because I wasn't covering that. And I'm like, dude, are you crazy?

I mean, there isn't enough crazy to go around. Why am I out to steal those guys as lunch? There's enough people that are covering it well enough that I would way rather send people to their platform than me try to regurgitate something from 2,000 miles away to try and get a little bit of their lunch. right so they you know it's it's we still haven't figured out yet about the power of collaboration versus what we're up against and a lot of a lot of that is part of the evolution of the independent media it's a it's a vow of poverty initially in the beginning 100% and so it kind of creates this culture because it's intertwined with the conservative mindset the best way to succeed is more time more money more hours more people all of those things

when if we're doing this for a different reason for the purpose of the people, I don't give two hoots about that. I want to make sure that Sean Newman has access to the most important information that I get. I want him to get that information to his community. You know, that's what it's about for me. It's about disseminating the truth. And if we could, you know, be perhaps a little bit more coordinated about that. We would be astronomically further ahead than what we are.

but this day is coming. Because the insanity is unsustainable. And at this point, people are clearly seeing that these are not news and media outlets. They are straight up mercenaries. People are dying because of their obfuscation, their propaganda, their narratives. It's costing lives. And so I think that's the best thing that could ever happen to Canadians is for those dinosaurs to die as corporate entities. There is going to be more than enough people that are going to be able to do better in an open environment than what we can right now, you know, with staring down the barrels of Bill C-63.

Corporate media goes to die. Can you imagine the press circles around the next prime minister if, if, you know, like, you know, the CBC gets actually defunded and they realize, wow, we just got a. It's hilarious. is. Every person that gets a paycheck from CBC is out there screaming to the world right now that if without the CBC, 27 million Canadians wouldn't have been able to see the Olympics and I'm saying, what 27 million Canadians were crazy enough to watch that insanity? You're full of it. Even if you take away some of the stupidity that happened at the Olympics. let's just for one breath say yes cbc did a great job on the olympic coverage right not the

the the what's in the olympics but let's certain parts of it let's just say their coverage of it was great who wants to spend what was the number 1.5 billion i believe in the last year and i forget what the total sum is it's a big number for you know i don't know 10 10 days two weeks like there's 365 days where you're not doing a whole great job and it's becoming more and more apparent you know they you know we were talking about you know the NHL and a couple different things briefly on the first hour when I was on your side and through the playoffs what really irritates me is when they run their commercial for CBC gem right I've never watched this thing and it's free if you didn't know Wayne and every time I hear free I want to I just want to jump through the screen and punch

something because I'm like it isn't free it's being funded we're funding the freeness harvested that's what makes it free not to mention we're building we're the taxpayer like they're taking the money we give the government and they're creating something they think people want except nobody's watching it like I don't know the last person ever that I heard said oh yeah I was watching CBC gem last night and it was just great like I'm sure somebody's driving down the road right now, swerving, laughing, because you're like, yeah, I've never heard that. I've never literally heard someone say, do you see the CBC jammy out?

No, it was amazing. Nobody. I don't even know what's on it, but it's free in case you didn't know Canadians. It's free for you to go get, except nobody cares, and it isn't free. It's literally funded by all of us. I'm like, you know what would be cool, it'd be free? Everything independent media, take that one point some billion dollars, if you're Pierre Poliev, and disperse it amongst independent media.

and see what happens to the media landscape in Canada. Politicians probably wouldn't love it. But geez, you would see a different class of media come through that was well-funded, could actually do things, could travel to cover some of the things, you know, like going and sitting in Coots, although, you know, like sounds like an amazing thing to do, which it is.

Listen to Mokalbazurgan talk about sitting there and some of the things. I think Jason Levina, I shouldn't misquote, Jason. But I'm sure, you know, he's said at times, like, it's taken some time away from his family and different things like that to be there and have to, it's like, what if you had, what if you had a million dollars a year? What if you had $100,000 a year from, from the government to go in and cover things? Especially the wife would be like, get out there and cover that thing, you know, it would be different. It would just be different. Instead, we got free CBC gem that nobody ever watches. And, you know, like, I just, I don't even know where my rant is going anymore. I'm so

irritated by the free commercials in the middle of the NHL, which playoffs, which you realize isn't free. And, you know, it's something that nobody has ever watched. CBC Gem. It's the biggest laughing stock of Canada. Why did I have to watch? Why did I have to submit myself, prostate myself to indigenous land acknowledgments before every freaking hockey game I'll

refrain myself from quoting Elon Musk with his three letter infamous statement sorry nothing against the natives or the indigenous but GFY well

you know what you do Wayne is you just tune in after and And that's my choice to do And I will do exactly that But hey, If you want to talk about Pat Beavis During the hockey

That's the biggest one I got I do not like being lectured By anybody Or being talked to Like I'm ignorant and stupid And that whole Whole thing is Yeah

Well, that's a whole other story I appreciate you doing this I know normally I'd be I'd probably talk to you for two hours But it's funny We just got off Once again I'll say this one last

time we got out of the vehicle I came here I you know I basically made my wife unpack everything which I feel bad about and yet I don't feel that bad because I'm like in the studio and I'm in my glory and it's fun to be back and you know I appreciate you coming on and doing this and next time there will be next time and I think you know what I'm thinking of is somehow we have to find a way the collaboration thing is really, I think, important. You know, you showed it to me. And then, you know, we just had Jason Levine on the mashup.

And he's like, oh, I broadcast across all my channels. And I was like, oh, you know, in my brain, I'm like, you don't have to do that. Well, you're a guest on our show on it. And then we started getting interaction from his audience. And they didn't know who we were. I'm like, huh, we're like literally in the same ecosystem. And people, you know, you talk about getting into your echo chamber. and yet our own audiences are in echo chambers

where they don't realize there's, you know, and so I'll be curious by broadcasting your show well tonight as we record this onto my channels, if anything came of that, maybe nothing came of it, who knows? Or maybe something did. And that collaboration thing is interesting to me. I think there's, that needs to be explored more.

You probably have a lot of information to share on that. But for my end, I feel like that going forward, trying to help some different independent media folks, and including myself, that opens us up to different audiences that have no idea that we're doing wonderful things and having different guests on that they might find interesting. So I look forward to, you know, whatever the future brings,

but certainly that's an idea that I think needs to be explored more. Well, let me put it this way. I can see the big bad wolf coming to blow the host down. If I don't build another house that he can't blow down, then I'm pretty soon going to be without a house. And that's the thinking behind LGM. News. And so we built it with that in mind. Without having a million dollars, I can't provide a house to a thousand people, but I can darn Skippy find a couple of dozen of the best and offer them a room in the house. Well, if you haven't checked out looking glass media, where can they find it?

it, Wayne, and where can they find you? LGM. dot news is looking glass media. We just went through a major overhaul on that, so we're just starting to plug some channels back in there. I think we've got four or five there now. We'll get you set up on there now that we've simplified it. And what's up Canada.org?

That's another one of those things that I, after having lost multiple websites and multiple YouTube channels and even a couple of X channels or Twitter channels and Facebook pages, you know, they've taken it all. It was back to that thing. I need to build something they cannot touch. So What's Up Canada.org became that. I learned from, they taught me how to build outside of their reach.

And that's kind of ground zero for me. I have links to my substack there. I've got a couple of amazing partners that are not sponsors, their partners, because they're invested in our not just, you know, survival, but our ability to thrive and excel in, you know, this hostile environment that we're in. So that's really kind of what I'm trying to do. I don't, I try to avoid the sensationalist stuff, but to, you know, be thinking about building

the road that I'm on rather than just wandering off the end of the road into a goat trail and getting lost, right? So trying to, trying to do some of that. So those one, as one guy who's had his channel removed from YouTube and knows how that feels to having my website I had a listener while I was away call and say hey I don't know if you notice this but your website got commandeered and it's been commandeered now for quite some time I got pointed out to me by Americans of all people and they said there's some real funny business going on here you might want to look into it that's a long story that Wayne I already

know has his own story so I already know this game of websites and everything because when I think about it I'm like I you know I was thinking about it on the drive my I, you know, hmm, you know, I just having issues with Spotify again. And I was telling you this before we started that I was really irritated and, you know, analytics, you know, it's like, it's like manipulation right in front of your eyes. Like, what the hell is that? And when you tell people, they're like, well, it's probably just something, you know, not that bad. And I'm like, yeah, your brain wants to go pragmatic. Like, oh, they just had a glitch.

Except, you know, I've been removed off YouTube. I've had my website stolen My wife literally goes to me It's funny I feel like the last time We were driving back from the States Your website got taken And I'm like

That's funny isn't it It's like my website got taken You got removed off YouTube Now the analytics For the second time on Spotify Whatever that means Because obviously you point to Joe Rogan's on Spotify

They're not removing him I'm like I don't work I'm not that worried That they're going to just make The podcast disappear But it's funny I go back to when you were on stage, you talk about it's not about making it disappear, it's about making it

hard to find. It's about making the analytics look like nobody's listening. So then maybe you decide to quit or maybe you can't charge anything to advertise because there's nothing to show. And I go, this is really interesting and unnerving. And me, particularly, and yourself and a whole bunch of others are living in real time going like, this is really messed up. In 2022, I had an average monthly reach of somewhere between three quarters of a million and a million people. Now I don't get a monthly reach of near, not even near 100,000. My viewership on Monday dropped 90%. It was like, I was saying to my wife, I'm like, okay, so you started the, where am I at here? Started the podcast down here, and at the height, I'm up here. And what they were saying Monday is I was back down here. I'm like,

I want you to just think about that. I've had a million downloads and it can't. calendar year, not including Twitter and the Facebooks and everything, right? Like, now that you compared to one. We didn't just suddenly get bad, Sean. Compared to one billion with Elon Musk and Donald Trump, that's minuscule. I get it. But for small town, Canada, that's a, that's a decent little reach. And you go, now they're telling me I'm all the way back down on the bottom.

I'm like, that makes zero sense. And it's weird because it happened day after day and now the numbers have come back. And, you know, now you go, oh, it was just a glitch. And I'm like, uh, that's a warm. That's a little red flag. And it's a second red flag with Spotify specifically because when I started, and I don't know, you know, I don't know how Wayne does it. But on my end, I started with a program called Anchor.

Uploaded all my episodes there and then it broadcasts across, you know, your Spotify, your Apple, all your way of getting the audio. And then Spotify bought it out. And so Spotify now owns it. as it transitions over, I see more weird things happening. And I go, I don't know what to make of that. I'd be curious what you think of that. Do you look at Spotify and go, it's the big bad wolf in sheep's clothing?

Or do you think just they control your data? And the more they control the data, the more they get to screw with it. And as governments come after them, which our government is coming after, the Spotify's, the subs stacks, the YouTube's, the on and on and on, they're going to mess with things. Or they're going to have the ability to mess with things. So I'm terrible. I'm notorious. I don't look at those things. I don't track the metrics on those things. I publish on Spotify only as of this year sometime. But I have no idea how many times I've been downloaded. Not a clue. My concern is more about delivering to the community that I can have an active relationship. So for me, that's. kind of broadcasting into the ether.

That's, to me, the equivalent of, you know, having a TV station or a radio station where it's singular one-directional communication. That's not where I'm really invested. So I do that there for people's ease and convenience. They can find it if they want and download it. But my investment personally is in the platforms where we can have engagement, where we can have a relationship, because I'm on here to build community, not an audience, because it's a community that will stick together if one day they'd,

just pull the plug on us all, then what? With the community, we've got nothing. Audience, you can have all the audience in the world. If they're not connected in another capacity, you're done, right? While I agree, the thing about it is, is that's why I did the phone. I got the phone set up so that if you want to yell at me or you want to applaud me or you want to go somewhere in between and just have a conversation, people can text me any day of the week. That's why leaving for so long and kind of shutting it down, it's probably pretty healthy, right?

Like, you know, I was still answer. It's not like I didn't, people know this. It's not like I didn't answer them, but I probably didn't answer them in the timely fashion that they've become accustomed to. But that's the way I get to have the interaction with the audience. And that's, you're doing the same thing. You're just differently, right? Yes.

I don't invest in Spotify because to me, I've had so many of those things taken away from me. I'm investing what I'm building on the real estate that I own. I'm not building money. That's interesting. That's really interesting, though, because, you know, one of the things, I don't daily look at the numbers. I actually, at times, I could care less, almost what you said, except then one day you flip it open, you're like, holy crap, where the heck did a million come from? Like, where did that come from? And I flipped it open Monday, and I saw where it was at, and I'm like, that is less than 10% of what I should have there. That is weird.

That's all I thought. I thought I screwed up. you go through the digging and you go, no, we didn't screw up. And then the next day it's the same thing. You're like, so either everybody decided all at the same time, I hate Sean Newman and I no longer want to listen to his show or something funny's up. Some of the most revealing shows that I have,

all of a sudden something weird happens and I can't get a live audience or Rumble flips it to a channel that I never use and streams it on a channel that has absolutely no viewers. that's only there to act as a placeholder for stuff that I'm intending to use. So how is... Have you ever done a freedom of information on yourself, Wayne? You know, you and I talked about that, and I, oh, brother, I want to do that in a worse way, but I want to be more specific, and I'll tell you why. This would be kind of maybe a bit of a head explode or sploter for you.

You've heard about Susan Weijacki, the CEO of... YouTube that just died suddenly and unexpectedly. Did you know that she was Christian Freeland's college and university roommate? No, I did not. So when I look at the abuse that I've suffered at the hands of YouTube, I want Christian Freeland's emails because I literally want to know if that talking Tatertaught named me specifically or my platforms to YouTube to have me silence when I was doing some of the most important work to humankind.

Well, I tell you what, this fall I'm doing it. Like, I mean, before like the end of summer here, I'm doing it. I'm going to put the paperwork together. I'm just, I'm just trying. I'm really hopeful. Nothing comes back. Right? It's like, oh, nothing.

It's all in your head, Sean. It's all in your head. There's nothing out there. Nobody's paying attention to this little show. Nobody cares. You're going to get a bunch of black lines except for the one that says, was seen on the What's Up Canada podcast and deemed enemy of the state. Possibly.

One of the, you know, I had a guest on. And once again, this is a second time in like less than a week. I'm forgetting his name. So I got to go find that out so I can give credit where credits do. But he talked about the freedom of information with your name in it is the most powerful freedom of information you can do because they can't black out your name. And that's what they love to do is black out different things. And I'm like, that's really interesting because I really want to know.

Like, Wayne, I really want to know. I really want to know what the cops or the government has been thinking about what is going on. Because you think about it, literally you go with the viral video of this week and you're like, I bet you they didn't see that coming. I certainly did not see that coming. And you think of like Wayne Peters. Like, is Wayne Peters a household name? In certain realms he is.

But for the most part, he's not. It's the same with me. I don't mean that by any slight. You go ask 100 Canadians. Just in general, if they know who we are, I'm going to say pretty slim. You know, I don't know how many out of that hundred. And it depends where you go. You do go in the middle of Emmington.

Probably not many. And I know I got Emmington listeners. I know Wayne's got Emmington listeners. But you wonder what organization's been staring at us going, I'm just waiting for these guys to slip. Make one fatal move, and I'm going to have this stack of files. Or is it nothing? It's just like a little blurb. It's possible.

Not for you. Maybe for me. Maybe I can scoot out of this. Maybe you're lucky. Maybe you're lucky. But when I, so here it was a pretty, two really big indicators for me that I'd have to, you know, give up my, my curiosity card for not noticing. First time I went to search up TSA on X, I was already blocked the very first time I went

there. Really? Yes. And when, you're on somebody's list. When I was addressed by by first name by one of Trudeau's security detail members at an event, I was like, what do you mean? You know my name? Like, what the F? Was that an odd feeling? That is creepy as F. Or when you're in a crowd and this was another Trudeau event where all of a sudden I feel this hand clamping down. down on my shoulder from behind as Trudeau is coming to me and I got a question. I'm going to pop and he's like no questions for you. As he's squeezing into my shoulder.

I'm like, okay. I get your point. So he was this far away from me and I couldn't say anything to him. But yeah. So that tells me that I have not done what I do unnoticed by your freedom of information request is going to be more interesting than mine. Mine's going to be like he talks about the Emmington Oilers from time to time and brings

up F. Trudeau once in a while and a couple other things and it'll probably be pretty boring. Right? Like I can hope that. He can hope that nobody's staring at what I'm doing. But I've had Wayne on. This is probably going to be a much more readable report, I'm sure.

I don't know. You think of some of the characters Canada has to offer. I'm trying to think of one that I haven't had on this thing. There's probably a few. There's, when you talk to this person that, that's with the freedom of information request, when you get some help with that, let's do a comparison thing. Why don't we put them in at the same time, Wayne? That's exactly what I'm thinking, Sean.

Let's see. Yeah, who stacks bigger? We all know it's going to be. Wayne. Even more interesting. Let's find somebody else and do a triangulation and see exactly all messed up. we are from ghost I think it'd be a lot of fun.

I mean, in a weird way, I'm like, I've been talking about this for too long. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. So I'm going to do it. When I figure out all the things I'm going to do, I'll add in Wayne to the conversation.

We'll have a little bit of fun, and we'll let the audience know what comes of it. Wayne, thanks for hopping on this side. And it won't be the last time. Any, you know, like for sure, you'll be back on at some point. Keep doing what you're doing. And we'll keep pushing people over to you,

LGM. That news for all things, Wayne. And I don't know. What do you have coming up in case people want to tune in? I can't make an announcement yet. But there is some international collaboration of epic proportion coming down the pipe for LGM. So I hope that's a bit of a teaser enough.

I've been so blessed to meet so many people from so many different walks and so many different nations doing so many amazing incredible things that it cannot help, but sooner or later, these people want to get together and do something more. And that's something that we're going to be able to do to broaden the horizons a little bit

and create safer spaces for people that don't necessarily want to be right, but they want to be in the fight. Well, I appreciate you coming on this of things and well keep up the good work we'll chat soon good sir