Shaun Newman Podcast - #704 - Matt Ehret

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

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My next event, it's going to be next year, and I wish I had an update. Like, I got it, you need an update. And here's the update, folks. I'm heading back to Calgary. I can't believe I'm saying that. We are very close. And once again,

I believe we're going to have an announcement here in the next couple weeks. weeks. I hate to keep everybody on pins and needles, but that's where we sit. We sit with, we're trying to make the best decision possible here over the next two weeks where we announced. This is where it's going to be. Here are some of the speakers coming in. And as we get closer, we're going to have more details. But the big thing to note is we're going to be looking. Well, no, actually, there is no big thing to know. I'm going to beep backspace delete. Right now, I'm heading back to Calgary. You know, when you think of an NHL GM, we're in talks. Well, we're in talks. So I think it's

getting closer. And if it comes to be, it's looking like Calgary is going to be the landing spot of 2025. I hate to jump the gun because, you know, next week I could just be like, it's in Lloydminster. And that's it. But right now, the talks are ongoing. I'm heading back to Calgary the end of this week. So it's been a couple of whirlwind tours to get down there and back. And we've been in talks, negotiations, what have you. I don't know. Leon Drysettel just got signed for big bucks, 14 million eight years.

And sometimes when I'm trying to plan this Cornerstone Forum to ensure that it becomes the best possible show that all of you can attend, hopefully, I kind of feel like I'm dealing with Leon Drysadle trying to get them locked up for eight years of 14 mil. I don't know. I don't think I'm getting that type of money anywhere just yet, maybe someday.

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I understand. I didn't listen to everything Joe did. And yet, by having the week in review, you can hop on for, you know, this week was two minutes and 44 seconds, I want to say. And within, you know, three minutes and less, you can see what the podcast did for five days and go, oh, I missed that? I didn't even realize. And now you have a nice prompt. It's going to be Sunday nights. You get home from the weekend and wherever your travels take you.

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I want to do five of them between here and Christmas. If you're interested, shoot me a text. I'll send you off some pricing, and we can go from there. If you're somewhere on the other side of Canada, we can always find a way to do it virtually, too, if that's something of interest. Okay, I've rattled on for eight and a half minutes. Let's get on to The Tale of the Tape. He is a journalist, cartoonist, and geopolitical analyst.

He serves as the editor-in-chief of the Canadian Patriot Review and co-founded the Montreal-based Rising Tide Foundation, which focuses on. on promoting scientific and technological progress alongside moral and creative development in society. He's written The Untold History of Canada book series and Clash of the Two Americas. I'm talking about Matthew Erritt. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today.

I'm joined by Matt Arrett. So thank you, sir, for hopping on. Thank you for having me back on. Well, actually, you know, I just pulled it up. And then we had a couple of complications on this side, folks. You know, this will be your fourth time on this side. Um, but you got to go back to 2020, where you came on back to back, uh, almost episodes. And then, uh, 609 was the last time. So March this year. And, uh, here we are. Once again,

I was telling you and I think the listener, if they were, we're paying attention, which they always are, because I got a bunch of texts about it. So I was talking to James Lindsay. And, um, he brought Fabium's society. And I was like, oh, this is like, I'm having, you know, flashbacks, though probably the last time you're on. And, uh, We got talking about that and parts of it, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, I understand that and parts of it. I didn't really understand because, you know, as you start to dig into Canadian history, just a little bit, you know, like at times it's just a thimble. You know, I'm not, I'm taking on a little bit. You start to dig just, just a little deeper. And the Trudeau has always seemed to be stuck in the middle of this sucker, right? Like obviously, two of them have been our prime ministers and certainly under their leadership.

Our country has really had significant things happen. Is that delighted? That's very diplomatic. That's very diplomatic language. I'm trying to not, yes, anyways. Thanks for hopping back on. I thought we might just start talking about, well, I don't know. The Fabian Society is one.

The club of Rome is two. You know, I was saying to you before we started, got going, you know, one of the things that maybe I knew, maybe it was locked somewhere in the back of my brain, but I didn't realize Canada, it's role in the Club of Rome, and you probably understand that better than most. Wherever you want to hop in here, Matt,

it's great to have you back on and, you know, looking to pick your brain on some of the things when it comes to the Trudeau's Club of Rome, Fabian Society, you know, the deep state, on and on this stuff goes. I don't want to, you know, I might need a cold shower after this,

but, you know, it just seems to keep, coming back up. Yeah, it's always a pleasure to be with you, Sean. And, you know, these are, these are really important and really challenging topics for anybody and especially Canadians. You know, we have this beautiful history, a really wonderful heritage, but we're not privy to any of that, because unfortunately, we were born into a system that had already been largely captured, at least the most important facets of the system that we were born into, were captured already by forces far removed from Canada

who have no interest in the well-being of Canadians whatsoever and have been rewriting our history so that we don't have those types of psychological, spiritual connections that we should have to the great heroes that gave rise to the greatest upshifts of standards

of living of our better heritage. And instead we've been given these false stories romanticizing, you know, the great Canadian Abraham Lincoln character of Pierre Elliott at Trudeau who kept the nation, you know, who kept the union alive in a time of crisis and like revisionist story after revisionist's story. It's funny out West. I don't think we get told

that story. I don't think that story would fly. Maybe I'm wrong on that, folks, but I can see a bunch of a bunch of hard work and farmers right now buzzing around in their combines, listen that going, well, probably saying a few choice words, right? I don't think we've ever been, they could try and paint as a picture of Pierre. I don't think he's working out here, right? I mean, he literally flipped the bird on the train to a whole bunch of people. You know, the story I love the best is on my way to Ottawa. An uncle of mine called and told us, you know, a long time ago when Trudeau, Sr. was coming through Saskatchewan was in, you know, was in a bit of a farmer revolt around grain.

And they filled his hotel lobby up with grain. They backed up trucks and filled up a hotel lobby. Those are the stories I've heard. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm unique. That's quite possible. That's lovely. That's really lovely.

Isn't it? You know, I'm speaking to you, I guess, from somebody who was born and raised on the east coast of the Ontario, Quebec, eastern side of things. So we were given perhaps a different messaging catered to our... Here's so great.

Matt, Pierre was so great. He was a great prime minister. He was fantastic. Yeah, well, it's one of these things, right? I, it's only when you start digging into the deeper structures, the subtle but very real, very powerful structures that have been actually shaping Canada's policy, both provincially and federally for a very long time from a top down level with an awareness that we've never become an independent, truly sovereign nation state. We've come close at different times in our history, but we never fully made the leap. And instead, and this goes back many generations, false constructs. to keep us loyal to the systems of the Privy Council, the lieutenant governors, these unelected bodies that most Canadians don't even have a clue

how they operate or even in some cases that they even exist. But these have been here embedded and baked into our Constitution, even going back to 1867, which called for the creation of a confederation. Amongst at the time it was for four British colonies that would sort of unify around a new confederation in service and in the benefit of the British Empire. is what our Constitution actually says, the British North America Act of 1867, which is a very peculiar language, not for the, you know, the well-being of the people or the nation, which is what you would think you would say, but no, it's for the well-being and for the interests of the

British Empire. And it bakes in, it very, it codifies the role of the Privy Council, the governor-general, who would be the monarchs, the hereditary monarchs hand inside of the, you know, the nation, the dominion for a long time is what it was called. And you'd have like unelected lieutenant governors who would be members of certain secret societies like the knights of St. John of Jerusalem, which you kind of have to be if you're going to become a lieutenant governor a century ago or today. So you're like, so today's lieutenant governor, just so I'm clear, is part of that? They make it a little bit more opaque for the membership list.

But going back to the 1990s, yes, they were all, all of those. Governor's last time I checked were still members of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, which was the more modern rebranded version of the Knights Hospitaller that took on a few different names. It was created about a thousand years ago during the Crusades to be sort of a sister knighthood along with the Knights Templar being another conjoined knighthood. That would control banking, control a lot of the social infrastructure, the monetary infrastructure of the ancient medieval world that meant that that that's what sort of facilitated the the crusades sort of centuries of religious wars the never-ending wars that put christians versus jews versus muslims forever and

it was terrible but it this thing took on a few different incarnations but it kept um an unbroken um life so it became named the knights of malta when their headquarters were moved to malta in 1530 The Anglican Church took on a created the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem in the 1870s so that there's some that are more fitted for the Catholic Church, some that are more fitted for the Anglicans, another variation for the Protestant churches,

but they're all the same thing with the same command control and it's never been good. So yeah, that's been sort of part of the Anglican You know, because the Church of England was set up around that same time to 1534. So the Knights of Malta 1530, Anglican Church 1534 with the reigning monarch as the new pope sort of just created as, you know, it's a weird thing that when you go into an Anglican church, and there's a lot of good people, a lot of good Anglicans. I'm not passing judgment, but it's a, it's a weird construct that when you go in, there's like a picture of King Charles III, right, who's the man god. on earth that replaces the Pope. And so it's a strange thing.

And it's been tied to British intelligence for a very long time. And it's been baked into the thing. So if we're going to, so talking about the weirdness of Canada, you've got this role that Canada has been induced to play within a broader global great game. The empire, all empires think globally. And so they see a role for their different colonies. And even after we became a dominion, we were still controlled by this foreign thing, just like today, when Justin Trudeau has to declare his oath of allegiance and his pledge of his oath of secrecy to the Privy Council and to the hereditary peers are removed from Canada, it's still the case that that's the exerting influence. And it has an idea of using us within.

And you and I have talked about this in our previous discussions as sort of a wedge at different times to prevent the organic development of U.S. Russian friendship going back to the 18th century. Canada was used as a wedge during the Civil War. It was used as a wedge again. When there was a big dialogue between Americans during the 30s and 40s and the Russian counterparts on developing rail and roads through Alberta and. and British Columbia into Alaska and upwards into Russia. That was something that WAC Bennett, the premier of BC, played a big part in. Franklin Roosevelt's allies in America were also doing the same thing under Henry Wallace. Then vice president in 42, 43,

he had a big discussion to create a road and railway system through the Bering Strait. And Canada was supposed to play a very positive role in that. But unfortunately, that didn't last too long. And instead, we've got this other thing that wanted to keep us under this monarchical global British. Today it's called the Commonwealth, but it's still the same type of, you know, you take a picture of the British Empire compared to the British Commonwealth. It's pretty much the exact same thing. It's about 23% of the world surface area.

The city of London today, just as it was 200 years ago, is the center sort of of world finance as far as, you know, every nation needing to, not every nation, but so many nations are beholden to the Bank of England, the city of London. the regulatory apparatus in the city of London, like the Financial Stability Board, which is, again, a British-based thing that controls global derivatives, commodity speculation. It's the Financial Stability Board, which people like Mark Carney had headed for a number of years. So you've got this higher control mechanism that a lot of people have been miseducated on. There's been a conscious decision to keep our school system from bringing our understanding of what empire is,

We're not allowed to know about that aspect of it. And so we have this false idea of what we are. And so when you start looking at things like the, how did this happen? How did this level of something so ugly and so monstrous that's so in front of our face, how could so many people not see it? You have to look at things like the Club of Rome,

like the Fabian Society, like the Roundtable Movement, these various think tanks that were set up over a century ago that had a certain mandate to bring about a one way, world government, this idea of a new world order with a certain type of operating system for a managerial elite that would be unappointed or unelected and would manage the shadows that the dumb peasants would be brought to assume was all that reality is. Basically, the things you see on you hear on the radio, on the TV, and the accepted narratives of textbooks, these sorts of in the mass culture, you know, these are the shadows.

of the puppet masters. You know, it's, you know, I think it's Heraclitus who says along the lines of, you know, no man ever enters the same river twice because the river's forever changing. So is the man. And when I come back to our conversations, you know, when I'm sitting here listening, I'm like, this is why you have people back on over and over again because as time goes on, you start to see things a little different. Maybe it's from all the conversations.

Maybe it's from life experience. maybe, you know, you know, sitting on this side, lots of different things going on. And I remember when I first started this, Jordan Peterson was, you know, he's still at the height. You know, he's still a very popular figure. But he was on this, like, insane rise that I'm sure lots of us were, witnessing. And he was asked if he's going to run for, for a politician running in that realm. And he said, you know, he'd really given it strong consideration, but he decided he could do more on the outside than he could do from within. And then the next one that said something similar to that was Ben Shapiro. And once again, folks, I don't care what you think of the two people, just that I found that. I'm like,

why would, why would they, you know, politics, you know? And sitting here, I literally just said something similar. I got asked if I would run for politics in different realms, right? I don't want to complain this. It could be as simple as just in my community, which one was, right, in a city election, and onwards and upwards and upwards. And when I stare at politicians, even the best ones, they get into the system and then they're handcuffed by the machine. And so you start to understand why certain people believe they can do more from outside than

from within. And the reason I bring up that example is, you know, I didn't understand how governments can be controlled by non-elected officials, except the media plays a really big role in that, right, by educating people, by staring at a story and maybe telling both sides so people can be informed. And you can see how over time, media, specifically the mainstream or the regime or corporate or whichever word you got that associates with that, how they can really take a population and turn them one direction. We saw that with COVID. We're seeing how they're playing out on climate change. We're seeing how it plays out versus Trump versus now Harris, right? We're seeing

how they're showing their cards every single day on which way they're going to go. And so I start to understand why people on my realm would not go directly into politics, although there are some that do for, I hope, obvious reasons and for the betterment of society. And when you look at, you know, when you point out like world government, how they look at the board, or sorry, not the world government, just different people look at the board as global. An empire looks at it as global. You start to understand Canada's significance on that board, right? Like we hold very strategic ground when it comes to one of the most important places on the planet, whether you love or hate the states, some of the ideas that have come out of there in how to create a nation have been,

I don't know, ridiculously important. So important. So important. So important. So important. And I mean, for most Canadians, not all. I mean, I think some people have had a better education than others, but for the most part in my experience, most Canadians don't appreciate. And that's by design of our education system, the importance, the world changing significance of the American Revolution and the ideas of 1776, as far as something which wasn't simply about not wanting to pay taxes on tea or something or have a tea party or correct it wasn't something so superficial as that these were all

elements to the thing but there was so much more to it and the idea of a of a nation governed by the consent of the governed with representation from the people to represent the interests of the people not a hereditary elite and for the idea of the general welfare that that's the basis upon which laws would be crafted and judged to be respected or to be overthrown would be based on whether or not it meets the general welfare, as well as the individual sanctity of inalienable rights of life, liberty, and happiness of the individual as well. So you've got the very, very powerful philosophical concepts that were imperfectly acted upon in the world. Of course, you know, like there is, you know, we live in the physical world. These are, these are concepts of a

high, of a high ideal. But, but the standard is really something very high. And we don't appreciate that nearly enough in the level of sacrifice and sophisticated strategy that had to be laid out over many many, many decades by people like Benjamin Franklin to make that even happen. We could learn a lot if we did appreciate it. So for me, that's been like a big part of my

last 20 years, has just been trying to immerse myself in a re-appreciation of how that... I used to say I hated Canadian history. It was so boring. There's just nothing there. We were so proud about it. about burning down the White House. But I never looked into more of why that story happened. I never understood, you know, like as time goes on,

go, why haven't we got some sort of corridor that goes from the states to Alaska? Why don't we, you know, have different things that would actually benefit us immensely, right? Everything has to travel through us. Wouldn't that be a good thing? And when you start to look at history in a different lens from a different lens,

It becomes Canada's significant importance and why certain things have played out the way they have. I think that, you know, like I lean on you. But to me, it takes a whole different lens. We're actually a ridiculously important spot on the planet. And other countries have known this for a very long time, the British. I mean, they've used our strategic spot

to try and influence different things on a global scale. Yeah, that's right. No, and, you know, going back to the earliest days, like, you know, we had Benjamin Franklin up here organizing, trying to persuade a delegation to come down representing Quebec as the 14th colony. He was not successful in his endeavors. There was too much. He found a lot of sympathy amongst the people, like the masses for the American cause. And this is around 1776 in April, April, May. He was up here in Montreal.

But the elites were far too controlled by a Jesuit. Anglican intelligentsia that was taking orders directly from London, that was working very hard to keep this, keep this prized colony very much under the control of the crown. And that's where you had things like the Quebec Act passed to give a bribe, local controls, things like that would be given to the Quebecwa, as long as they stayed loyal to King George the third. And he came, and that was one of Ben Franklin's few failures, was to persuade the colony to join. And then since then, we were just given all of these false sort of false victories,

these little fake constitutions in 1791 in 1830, or sorry, in 1840, the active union, the, again, the British North America Act, and others, these little things that give us micro-local controls, but always under the condition that we remained loyal to the broader system. And when you look at the conditions in each one of those instances, what was happening in the world, you had a lot of patriots who had risen to positions of influence, like in the case of Quebec and Ontario, you had William Lyne McKenzie leading the upper Canada rebellion in 1837, or 1838. And that was being coordinated very closely with Louis Joseph Pepino's leadership of the lower Canada rebellion at the exact same time to create a real republic, like a real independent

republic of Canada, which was subverted. They didn't last long. But they, they had a solid idea that they missed an opportunity in 1776 that had to be recaptured at that moment. And unfortunately, there were traders that had taken control of the U.S. administration at that time. So they didn't get the expected support from the U.S. that they were hoping for. And it was even made illegal by, I think it was Van Buren at the time, to provide support to the Canadian rebels at the time against the British. And so the whole thing came undone. A lot of people were hung. A lot of traders were brought in, were infused into the rebel, the rebels of Ontario and Quebec. And the thing just kind of washed out. And then as a solution,

the British Empire gave us the 1840 constitution to say, okay, well, we can't, we have to create pressure valves to, because obviously the rebellion happened because we weren't giving them enough space to have, you know, enterprises, industry. We weren't giving them the freedoms that their cousins south of the border were enjoying. So a lot of Canadians were looking down saying, well, how is it that the Americans are able to progress? They've quadrupled their population. They're increasing their manufacturing, their living standards, and we are still suffocating under the control of the British. And they wanted what was rightfully all of our heritage. So, you know, the British loosened up the chains a little bit and they gave us a little bit

of breeding space to keep, but under the condition that we stayed loyal. And then that, of course, was still suffocating. And so there was another burst, another effort to create an independent Canada during the American Civil War. And you had people like Isaac Buchanan who became one of the top leaders of the Liberal Party. At the time, it was a very different thing than it is today. But it was really a nation-building enterprise around the idea of building a transcontinental railway, internal improvements, you know, the well-in canal, other things. Like, there was all sorts of different enterprises that were really good. And Isaac Buchanan had the idea of, again,

creating an independent Canada that would stand on its own, would not receive orders. You wouldn't have to have royal assence if you wanted to pass a law by a governor general, like we have today. But he had the idea that, no, we could do everything independently, have our own military, other things,

our own banking system. Forgive me. Maybe I'm going to ask the listeners right now, maybe I'm the moron. Isaac Buchanan, is that like a household name or is that like a long forgotten, and I just don't remember any Canadian history. It is possible.

Isaac Buchanan doesn't, it doesn't just all of a sudden I got bells ringing like, oh yeah, Isaac Buchanan, I know exactly who that is. Yeah, no, it should be a household name,

but he's not. He's one of the top American system, nation builders of Canada. He was a Scottish industrialist. He moved to Canada as a child, and he was really a force for progress during the days of the, the grit, you know, the grits versus the, the, the, the Tories.

And he was an enemy both of Georges Etienne Cartier as well as Johnny McDonald despised him. Why did they despise him? Because they were both loyal to the system of the British Empire. Sir George Etienne Cartier was sort of the Quebecois monarchist. And Johnny McDonald's, Sir John A. McDonald's, was famous for saying that a British, I was born, a British I will die, and he worked very hard to keep us under the control of the British Empire. And they didn't like the fact that Isaac Buchanan wanted an independent Canada. And he had a huge amount of political clout.

He had a lot of allies amongst Lincoln's Republicans in the South. And again, at the time, the United States still had a lot more independence than it does today. So the idea of creating, for example, Isaac Buchanan was a big champion of a policy known as the Zol, a Canadian, or a North American Zolverine, which was a word taken from the German Zolverine that was then being created to unified Germany under a protective tariff and internal improvements around this fellow named Audubon Bismarck and Friedrich Lest, who was a fellow who was an economist who had studied in the United States, had lived in the United States in the 1830s, and went back to Germany to apply this to unify Germany for the first time under progress.

And otherwise, in English, it's known as a customs union. And so the idea was to create an economic protective tariff to prevent the dumping of cheap goods from largely from England at the time they had the monopoly on most of the product, like industrial produced goods, largely through their efforts in destroying the manufacturing base of India and China and the, you know, the decades prior to that. So Britain is an empire of economics of money. They get everybody to do free trade and they don't do it themselves. So by England not doing free trade themselves, they were able to build up their manufacturing powerhouse and then have dominance over all the other nations of the world who are supposed to abide by free trade and stay cash cropping. So Canada was the land of the cures of wood and drawers of water. That was supposed to be our, you know, we could do beaver furs and lumber exports.

and that's all we were supposed to have. The United States was only supposed to do cotton exports used by slaves. They weren't supposed to have factories that could transform it that could transform a raw material into a finished good. So you get everybody in a situation of dependence and nobody has a full spectrum economy that could allow them to stand on their own two feet. India as well, you know, they're only allowed to do opium production controlled by the British that would make a few Brahmins a lot of money,

but that would have a system of mass impoverishment and that opium would then be sent to China to keep China subdued and addicted to opium which was part of the opium wars for over a century of it's called the century of humiliation and that would enrich a local elite of Chinese elitists but they would always be loyal to the British Empire who would just keep control over this world mechanism right?

So the idea of Isaac Buchanan was no okay let's break free like the United States had done in its better days and have protective tariffs. We'll ally with the U.S. that has a spirit of nation building. And we'll have things like, you know, he drove the Welling Canal, the railway systems, other things. He was a big driver of industrial Canada. And he was ousted in 1864 by, oh yeah, that was it. It was Etienne Cartier, Johnny McDonald, and George Brown,

our three big fathers of Confederation were all his enemies who worked together to oust him. and instead pushed the BNA Act instead of going independent. And that was originally drafted in a big orgy-filled, booze-soaked conference that went on for like a month in the Maritimes. And it was finalized in 1864 when the Civil War in America was still being waged. And it was only signed into law in 1867 in, I think it was July 1st, 1867. And that was done because there was such a fear amongst the British governing class, especially the grand strategist, who could see that Canada was slowly slipping away from them. So even though they got Isaac B. Cannon out, the general population was still very enthusiastic about

the prospects of collaborating with the United States around building Lincoln's... Well, you just think, sorry, you just think like every generation that goes on, you lose the connection to Britain, right? Like, I mean, like today, I know my family lineage where it comes from, but overall, born in this country, you know, and on and on and on it goes. I feel nothing really for Great Britain. I mean, I'm being a little bit tongue and cheek. There's probably a little bit of something there because once again, in school, you learn about the Britain Commonwealth. You learn about different things. We have the Commonwealth games.

We have different things that still try and pull that connection. but you think every generation that goes on, you lose that more and more. And that would have been a problem they would have been dealing with and it would have been playing out right in front of their eyes. Because every year that even a British man lived in Canada, I mean, if you're getting wealthy off of it,

certainly you're like, nope, we're part of this. But if you're not, every year that goes by, you lose a bit of that. Do you not? You do, I think. It takes a lot of work to try to create a false emotional connection to something as far removed from you as Britain is from Canada. It's so distant geographically.

It's difficult, especially when we're so close to Britain's enemy, the United States. You know, we speak English. We have a lot in common. And you think back, and you, apologies, you think back, like even now, how many people do you know in the United States? Tons. And back then, it would have been the same way. You know, if you think about it, you have tons of families that move down. up here and vice versa. Like that's, that's not a shocker from where I'm from. Like sitting in the

middle of the prairies in sometimes the worst place on planet, sometimes the best, depending on the time of year and the amount of sunshine and whether it's minus 40 or, you know, uh, yesterday plus 30, right? Like what a, what a wild place. And around here, you talk to people. And there's a ton of people that had relatives or came from the states. Like, that's where they came through. So you think back then, as it is now, like, the conversations going back and forth and the ability to move across the border back then would have been completely different than now. So to hear what they were talking about as much as I think, I wonder what the Canadian

population thought about that. They probably had some strong thoughts on it. The longer time went on that they hadn't been raised in Britain or had connections to it, right? Like they would have been, you know, like communication was still happening back then, albeit in a different form. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, like you said, the cross-

pollinization of ideas was so much stronger back then. We had a lot of American newspapers in Canada. A lot of Americans were freely traveling. Canadians were freely traveling across the border. Families were constantly in motion. And, you know, there was a big discussion, especially in the case of British Columbia during this time. And I may, you know, my wife and I, we recently just released a documentary going through some of this story. But there was a big, big fight or British Columbia, when the BNA Act was passed, that was four colonies on the, on the eastern coast of the United States, of the Americas, in the north. But between that, you had the Hudson Bayland, which was like 80% of Canada's landmass was private Rupert's land, Hudson Bay territory,

privately owned by board of directors, very closely aligned with the British East India company, which was sort of like the global corporation. It's kind of like, you know, people know of corporate fascism or corporatism, as they call it. That was sort of a precursor to that, where you have the veneer of economic business on the surface, but in the reality, there is a political agenda behind the behavior of these sorts of multinational enterprises to keep nations subdued, not do business, not make money, but to use the power of economics as warfare to keep nations dependent, undermined, and so that, you know, one power structure, a hegemon, can rule the world. And that's where the Hudson Bay

Company was. It consciously kept Canada underdeveloped, under explored by design for like two centuries. And then you had British Columbia as this like isolated little colony on the other side, on the west coast that had no connection to the other to the east coast Canadian provinces. It had no connection really economically to the mother country. That's the, that's half a world away. British, you know, England and British Columbia, how far can you get? They had everything, the gravitational force was entirely related to California and America's West Coast. And that's where all of the business was happening. There was a huge love of the United States, a huge recognition that there was a need to work together. And at that time, again, Britain was about to lose it

because there was a big annexation movement of British Columbia in 1866, 1860. 1868, which were, had the support of even the lieutenant governor, or what's name, Frederick Seymour, who appears in my research was killed because he was protecting the annexation movement folks who were in collaboration with the time it was president, President Grant was in power in the 1870s. And he was trying to buy them time to actually finalize this, this idea of extending Lincoln's Transcontinental Railway that had just been finished in 1869, through British Columbia and then thence upward into Alaska, which the Russians had just sold to the United States in 1867 about a few days before our British North America Act was signed

so that that was done with the idea, as Lincoln himself had said, to extend rail lines and telegraph lines from the Americas into Russia through the Bering Strait. Canada was going to benefit immensely. And Britain, I'm got to, I got to pause you here because you got my brain firing on too many cylinders and you're rattling off a ton okay one when you talk about the hudson bay company owning a ton and then being related to uh the british empire and their corporation the east india company is that in today's sense like black rock like when i hear that i'm like oh my god that's what black rock's doing and i mean albeit a very um you know our are are where our world sits, so a little updated version, but that's exactly what they're doing. They're literally pushing

DEI and ESG everywhere. That's the template. Exactly. That's the template. Hudson Bay, British East India company. So this is, this has literally been, you know, the Black Rock thing has literally been done before. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they, they tweaked it during the after World War II with the Bilderberg group, you know, that was set up in in 1954 by print. Bernhardt of the Netherlands, a former Nazi SS officer who is closely allied to Prince Philip. These two guys have worked together representing the Anglo-Dutch faction of the empire, and they created this thing to coordinate a corporate, utilizing corporate power and private finance to collaborate and undermine the sovereign nation-state system that was

then moving towards independence from that private entity. And that's what they sort of did. Henry Kissinger was a Bilderberger steering committee member, George Ball, who did a lot of damage overseeing the murder of Kennedy and other things. Working with David Rockefeller were also collaborating or steering committee members of the Bilderberg. No, I mean, there's a whole bunch today. But this is what sort of congealed the framework in which Black Rock Vanguard State Street were brought into play. did

how do I say this properly? I guess I'm wondering how did those companies end or did it just you know change names and change forms and continue on? Is that how it ended or did it end

and now you have a new version and it's BlackRock? Okay, that's where that's where the very interesting drama of the story comes in because a lot of people get a little blackpilled because they just see that this type of monstrosity,

this conspiracy has been moving, has been there for so long, that people tend to leap to the conclusion prematurely that everything is planned out. This whole new world order reset of humanity has been so planned out for so many centuries that there's really nothing lowly, you know, plebs like us can do. And that's not true.

That's a premature judgment. So to answer your question, there was a crisis within the empire because their plans for a new world order back in 1860 something. During the 1860s, there was a plan for a global feudal reset. And it was premised upon the control, like the destruction of the United States that had to happen. Undo 1776. Erase the memory that that even happened. Right.

And so that's why the British put so much of their efforts into supporting the South, the Confederate slave power of the South was to break up the Union. They also had agents within the North as well to undo the Constitution and create two pro-British confederacies

amongst the North that would join with Canada and the South that would become its own slave empire with a special relationship with Britain. That's what was the direction of humanity in the 1860s. And that was then based upon the idea that if that could occur, then you could have a restoration of the grandeur of the British Empire, the British East India Company.

They never would have left. They never would have disappeared from that form. But instead, what we had was a lot of very smart, strategic thinking people were able to collaborate and organize properly with a special Russian-American relationship. You had already, for decades prior, the build-up of an alliance amongst patriots in Russia and the United States who had organized around the figure of Zara Alexander II in Russia and Lincoln and the newly formed Republican Party in America that was set up in 1856 to navigate through the set of minefields.

And Russia played a key role in saving America as I illustrate a little bit in that new documentary that you just watched. By sending the Russian naval fleet. Who knows this, right? That the Russian Navy was sent in 1863 to the coasts of California. Well, now sort of talking to a whole

bunch of you i understand it right like i'm you know it's it's like once again a little thimble full at a time is how i as i take some of this information and you're like okay i got i got to think about this all over again you know like it it is it's interesting to me so what you're saying is and i don't know if i'm getting this right i want to make sure that i the end of this giant conglomerate organization ends when different nations, along with some patriots, came together to kind of push it out of the way of their respective countries, being Russia and the United States. Am I wrong on that? There's more nuance. So by surviving and thriving, they were able to ensure that the sovereign nation state system would come out as the dominant force after 1865.

Even though they killed Lincoln, they couldn't stop the momentum. of this spirit of optimism that human beings could solve problems could overcome limits to growth and that was a big part of Lincoln's economic policy as well as that of Tsar Alexander II who was also murdered a few years later by a London directed anarchist plot

that blew him up in an anarchist terrorist operation in Russia but the idea was okay the nation can utilize national directed credit like the Greenback were for the specific purpose of increasing private enterprise and the common good at the same time through public works, internal improvements, next generation research and development.

You just want to facilitate new discoveries, transform them into new applications to increase the productive powers of society. And every time you do that, the effect is you can have a greater potential of people you can sustain at a higher quality of life. You're no longer dependent upon the previous set of resources. that had been monopolized by agencies like the British East India Company and their

controlled assets. So the empire always works by getting us addicted to a certain type of behavior and set of resources that then become monopolized so that then we fight for diminishing returns of whatever that resource is. You know, in the days where we didn't have coal and we didn't know about oil yet, we just had wood that we were burning. So whoever could control the lumber could then control the wars. Because they, you know, knew that there was going to be a drawing down of the of the wood available as people you know needed more and that would create scarcity tension tension's very beneficial if you're a game master trying to manufacture wars between people who live next to each other so that's just been part of the

thing but then somebody you know goes and discovers how coal actually is oh well i'm so then i go i wonder what matt like you look at the world today right i mean like bring you on to talk certainly about Canadian history and all of, you know, everything we're talking about. When you look at today then, knowing what you know about the past, right, as you delve deeper and deeper in different subjects and you look at what's going on, not only in Canada, but, you know, like the U.S. election is what, you know, under two months, oh, no, just over two months away. And, you know, you see some of the things playing out with Russia and Ukraine or Israel and just the Middle East in general, Iran and on and on and on this goes.

where are you at? Like when you look, you know, when you take a step back and look at the game board, if that's possible, where do you sit today? Like, are you like, holy crap, we're living out a year 18 something? Or do you have a more hopeful mindset of where things could go? Well, I'm, I've got sort of, I'm hopeful, but I'm also, I have trepidation as well.

Like there's a lot of bad ideas in play and a lot of good people who are very misinformed by certain lessons of history that they should have realized, but they don't know about. So they're making some bad judgments about, you know, where they want to go. At least here in my part of the transatlantic community that I happen to live in, and the people I interface with, a lot of good people who don't want to die and they don't want a death cult, great reset taking over. But they still, they just don't, they're not informed about these lessons of what has allowed

humanity to fight this Goliath historically and win at various important moments. So because of that, those blind spots, there's danger I see in people like jumping the gun and falling prey to narratives that I see now being raised to promote

invading Mexico militarily, you know, or Venezuela or getting enmeshed in a war with China. Good people are falling into a lot of, you know, controlled narratives that are inducing them to jump headfirst into a new set of very dangerous wars. And then you look at the Middle East as well.

And that's a whole bunch of Gordian knots built on top of each other that could easily blow up in a very bad way. But then on the other side, I look at the fact that this principle that I identify in my research as a historian as being something which has threatened existentially the existence of oligarchical systems, imperial systems, that thing that Lincoln died for and that you know William McKinley died for and Zara Alexander II died for and John F. Kennedy died for that principle of of there's a common policy that they were all putting into play that took on different

amplit or it had a different coloring each time it was done by different individuals and different parts of the world at different times but it's the same principle of the nation state utilizing the the moral authority of representation of of of of the nation state to defend the people from the interests of this private financier hereditary oligarchy and put forth policies that were based upon natural law the over the creative overcoming of limits which is you know and also cooperation instead of war with your neighbors looking for points of common interest so that i see that torch being carried right now by many very very mature leaders

amongst the intelligentsia of Russia, of China, of India, of Iran, of many other countries that are doing a much better job at navigating through this shithole than we are. And I get a lot of hope by the type of high-level strategic thinking that I see displayed on that part of the world over the iron curtain that's being rebuilt, you know, separating us from them. There's a lot of very smart maneuvers. And I do hope. I get a lot of good feelings. by seeing how this could work. I know this could work to destroy finally this oligarchy if we don't stay stupid and allow ourselves to go to war

with those groups who are fighting it. So if we can get our heads out of her asses and actually like, you know, recapture our better heritage, sure, you know, we could definitely do what people like Lincoln were doing back then. And I see Trump from that standpoint as a flawed man with a, but as a human. I don't seem as a technocrat, you know,

I see a human there. who has human feelings, not like a Justin Trudeau or a, you know, any of these, these Brussels technocratic club of Rome type policy. Kamala Harris. There's nothing there. There's just, there's a human who's like. I got asked, I got asked this morning about my thoughts on, oh, what do I think of this day of the world?

I'm like, oh, what a, what a heavy question, right? Because, you know, like, inevitably, it leads to the United States, which, you know, on this show, I love talking about Canada because I think we have, you know, really important role in the world. And right now, that role is being diminished and we're, you know, we're, we're doing a bunch of things that don't make a whole lot of sense to me. But inevitably, you know, it comes right now, especially before a U.S. election to the United States. And, uh, let's say, I don't follow, I follow probably as much U.S. politics, probably more so than most people. But I mean, in general, I'm no expert on it. I'm not watching everything.

every move Harris makes or Trump's makes. But I, you know, I pay attention more than the average one. And I don't know where you sit, but where where I come down is I'm like, well, I don't want war. I certainly don't want World War III. And everything I've seen out of the Biden administration, which Harris is a part of, is like ineptitude in leading us closer and closer to that. Like, it's almost like they want the next war to happen.

and when I listen to Trump, I feel like he's going to call Putin. I feel like he's going to do things and shut some of this down. Like, we can't, we can't do this. And so right away I go, that's why I'm pro-voting Republican, which folks, if you're listening this,

I can't do anyways, because I'm Canadian, right? So like, literally, I can say my two words on it, but it doesn't matter that much. But if I was voting, I'd vote Trump. And you can hate a lot of the things Trump says. You can hate a lot, you know, i'm no mega guy i i'm not like i don't think he's a second coming of christ or anything insane i

just think when it comes to it i want a guy in office that's going to pick the phone up and call uh call putin and be like how can we get this resolved like not not tomorrow but today because i think it was a what was it was it a thousand ukrainians are dying a day i think is the latest stator on on how many people are dying in that war and um you know can you know Canadians are funding it. Americans are funding it. Heck, half the world is funding the Ukrainian side.

And it's like, let's resolve this. Let's get the tensions out of here. Let's get people back to the table. Because in the meantime, the people who are losing is human beings. Like, we're getting absolutely onslaughted.

The American, on the side of the Democrats, you got Harris, who I agree with you, the Brussels thought. They just stand for so many things that I just, detest in society right now. And I see it. She, she resembles Justin Trudeau so much.

It just irks me to no, no level at this point. Like, to just such a high degree, it just drives me nuts listening to her talk. Although in saying that, I don't think she's some easy candidate that you're going to walk over. I think, you know, he's got his hands full. It's better that, you know, the Democrats now have a person in position. They're like, if a debate doesn't help her, tell her not to talk. I'm like, what a wild thing to do and say if your candidate is running. It should want them to debate and debate and debate over and over again because you want the best leader. That's, we're in a strange part of society right now, Matt. You would have thought that they would have got to that position because they have practiced the art of aiding, right? And it's like,

no, no, that's not what's that's not how things happen anymore in our society. It's literally just who did you sleep with? Where, you know, which, which skull and bone society at Yale? Did you get into that gave you somehow an easy access to becoming a club member that got you the job at the State Department. You know, like, what? No. No, no, no. And yet I go,

we see it and I go back. Like every time you start talking, I'm like, it's happened before. This is all happened. The only difference is right now, and currently in 2024 compared to probably 1884 or 1824, whatever 18 year you want to go, is they have the ability to push a button

and nuclear Armageddon is upon us, right? Like, that's what we're playing with now compared to a couple hundred years ago. And that's probably the biggest, largest difference. Yes. Now, I'm thinking here to myself, because there was a core point that I really, I want it to make, and I know I'm going to forget

because if I go down this path too much right now at this moment, I'm not... No, no, no. My apologies, because you keep doing this to my brain. core point fire away no that's the hard thing with this like multi-level contextual stuff right it's like there's so many points that we could go on because it's just context is so important but like so but to answer because i never answered your question and i realize i'm going to feel bad if i don't so in terms of what happened to the hudson uh the hudson bay company and the the british east india

company they so they both were taken out of existence in that form that they had as private companies that had this sort of, as you said, Vanguard BlackRock quality about them, you know. So for the Hudson Bay Company, it was part of a package. They were nationalized. They were bought up by an act of in England that gave Canada the right to purchase them at like pennies for the dollar for the shares in 1869. Now, the reason for that was because British Columbia, was about to join the United States.

Like I said, you had this big annexation movement. And the idea was that if they did that, there would be a plan for extending rail industrial development. They were already suffering from the 1850s. There was a gold rush. There was a speculative buildup in gold that busted. So you had all of a sudden a depression, ghost towns were all of a sudden everywhere.

And they were suffering bad. And they had a lot of debt. So Britain, some of the the groupings were managing Canada at the time trying to figure out how do they keep control of this high value real estate. They basically said, okay, look, tell you what, you sign up to the British North America Act and we will sign off, it will pay off your debt. We will build a railway from the east coast to the west coast within a few years. And we'll do a few other things. But it basically became a bribe. Part of that was that the thing holding back the rail development was this private entity that had been set up to stop Canada from developing.

So they basically had an act, a law passed that forced the Hudson Bay Company to become owned. And that that became Canada very quickly. So by 1869, 1870, Governor Seymour dies. He's sent up by Sir John A McDonnell to resolve some issue amongst to like arguing native tribes. And he dies up there. He just dies. No one knows what happened. He just dies.

And then all of a sudden they get this pro-confederate monarchist, Cosimo de de, de moray, brought in as his replacement, who just fast-tracks everything, gets BC to sign on. You know, the annexation movement loses. And so they do start building, but it takes time, this rail line. So the Trans-Canada rail line, which is not a bad thing that it was built, but it was done for the wrong reasons. It was done, not as John and McDonald's,

said, I would leave Canada a barren wasteland if I could, except that I know that if we don't go there, the Americans will. So he understood the strategy was to build rail simply to satisfy and placate Canadians who wanted progress. And they knew that if they didn't satisfy that demand, that Canada was going to either become an independent republic or join the United States, anything was on the table. And I'm just going to read a quote here. And then I'm going to talk about the British East India Company. But Lord Milner, when this danger of what Isaac Buchanan was representing for a customs union that would be anti-British and pro-American, that was sabotaged in 1864 when they ousted Buchanan.

It was revived by a guy named Sir Wilfred Laurier. And Laurier in the 1890s became prime minister. He had been a member of the anti-Confederate movement in Quebec called Les Rouge, the Reds, along with Hello David there was a whole grouping that had newspapers in Montreal

in Quebec and they were all very pro-Republican pro-Lincoln as Quebec-Wat French speakers and they were sort of part of the Papino

legacy in fact Papino's nephew was the leader of that group and called Les Rouge so this guy Lourier

who later on rises to become Prime Minister was a member of that grouping he knew Buchanan quite well

They were very much on the same page. Kind of like at the time, Buchanan, you could say, represented the William Lyon-McKentzy spirit of, you know, the leader of 1837. That's what Buchanan represented by the 1860s, whereas L'Arier represented the Papino spirit that ran the Canada Institutes and other things. So he becomes prime minister.

He push, he revives Buchanan's aborted. plan for customs union. And this is different from NAFTA. People might hear me and say, oh, that sounds like NAFTA. That sounds like a terrible idea. You know, NAFTA destroyed Canada's economy. It under, you know, it brought private corporations that were American owned into, into big influence in Canada. That was bad. And it's true. NAFTA was bad. It was destructive. But this is not NAFTA. This is when America was still independent. It had a different spirit. NAFTA was after it, the, you know, the murder of Kennedy happened, the murder of Bobby Kennedy happened, the private cartels of the Bilderbergs of the trilateral commission of David Rockefeller

had taken control sufficiently of the United States by the 1980s that NAFTA was a very different thing. So what Lollier did is he planned another customs union, which passed. The Senate, the House of Commons, it passed. And it was just, it just needed to be acted. pawn in 1911. And it was at that moment that this momentum was happening towards creating a new North American Customs Union that you had Lord Nillner representing the roundtable movement of Cecil Rhodes come to Canada. And with him he brought Lord Halford McInder, a Fabian society leader who was then the director of the London School of Economics, which was the school set up by the Fabian Society to reorganize the empire. And they both came to Canada. They both came to Canada.

to come up with a strategy. And I have this quoted extensively in my books, in my book series on the Untold History of Canada, where he outlines Lord Milner. This is a guy who also is co-crafting the Balfour Accords with Lord Balfour, another member of the Roundtable Movement and Fabian Society. And he says, as between 1909, as between the three possibilities for the future for Canada, which is number one, closer imperial of the union with the British. Number two, union with the USA and number three, full independence for Canada.

I believe that number two is the real danger, which is the union with the USA. I do not think the Canadians themselves are aware of it. They are wonderfully immature in political reflection on the big issues and hardly realize how powerful the influences over them are. So he basically calls for amplifying a false nationalism, number three, because he doesn't think that they want to join with the British. either. But he's very much afraid of them joining with, at the time, it was still more of the McKinnelly Lincoln spirit of America. That would be a very big danger to the British if that

happens. And so he says, let's instead promote a new type of nationalism that will be more controlled by the British, by the British Empire. Now, he does that and he is working to create, like I said, he's working with the Fabian Society. Halford McInder develops a strategy to do this. They do this by encouraging the build up of these societies, what are called roundtable movements. One of the key guys in Canada who sets up one of the early roundtable movements is Vincent Massey, who becomes our first Canadian-born Governor General later on. He's a Canadian ambassador to Washington. He's like, but he's the controller of the Canadian branch of the Roundtable Movement,

funded by the war chest of Cecil Rhodes. And they start doing what are called Rhodes scholarships. They need to create a Cecil Rhodes had said in his manifesto for the will, for this new system, a secret society or a church of the British Empire to recapture the United States and to create a new world government effectively, to restore the total unchallenged hegemony of the British Empire and its greatest grandeur. So that was what Cecil Rhodes put forth in his manifesto, and that mandated the Rhodes Trust system, which people like Christia Freeland, for example, is a road scholar. Bill Clinton was a road scholar. They really infused themselves into the United

States. Under Clinton, there's a bunch of them. There's like 14 of them who are leading advisors to Biden to this very day. Jake Sullivan is a road scholar. You know, there's a lot. But they came in early into Canada. And one of the key figures, so they ousted Laurier. And I'll just say this is an important quote by Lurie at the time when he is ousted by a coup and afterwards he writes to his friend O.B. Skelton

where he says in 1914, now Canada has been sucked into the World War I 1 or 1915. He writes, Canada is now governed by a junta sitting in London known as the round table with ramifications in Toronto, in Winnipeg, in Victoria,

with Tories and grits receiving their ideas from London and insidiously forcing them onto their respective parties, Tories and the Grits being conservatives and liberals. Now, this was said by Wilford Laurier after he was ousted. And I have a chapter in one of my books on the, you got this Freemasonic Orange Order that was very, very active in Ontario at the time. That worked very, very closely with certain Jesuit operations that were dominant in

Quebec that ousted Lurier from that canceled the customs union plan that he had gone so far into putting into motion. to unify with the United States economically. And instead, you had a character named Prime Minister Borden brought in. And Borden becomes the first president of the Canadian roundtable after World War I. So that's a big part of that aspect of the fight.

Now, that answers only half the question of what happened to the Hudson Bay Company is they had to nationalize it, which would not have been a bad thing if it were done for honest reasons. The second thing was the British East India Company would be here today if Lincoln hadn't been successful, but they had to again nationalize the British East India Company in 1873.

And they did that because the empire was in crisis. The world was waking up the French, the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, the Japanese, everybody was waking up for the first time at the same time to the evil, insidious techniques of control and manipulation of the British Empire. And they were working together. This new system that Lincoln had defended was going global. Nation states were developing full-spectrum economies everywhere, and they were doing it with a strategic understanding of the traps that the empire set. So this is at that point that the

empire, I think, needed to get more centralized control over the activities that had been formally done by the pseudo-private British East India Company, which was when you had the creation of the more modern British military intelligence that sort of took over control of the British East India Company operations. They didn't disappear. They just took on a more British national character, but doing the same thing in 1873. And at that point, you had an array of new think tanks

that did sort of like a corporate emergency reorganization. You know, when you have a corporation going through bad management, you have to do some serious self-reflection if you're not going to go bankrupt and do some reorganization of your activities. That's sort of the type of corporate crisis that was the British Empire, was the system of the empire

in the 1870s. So that involved then the creation of new think tanks, the first being the, the scientific think tank run by Huxley's X club, Thomas Huxley being the grandfather of Aldous and Julian, who creates, he's a handler of Charles Darwin. And he creates the first thing is a,

that he calls the X club in 1865, to manage to sort of try to capture the narrative of what, proper science would be that every one of the world would be expected to adapt to, whether it's in biology, geology, climate economics, you name it. And then that became sort of the, it's very, it's very well organized in that sense. There's a certain discipline to this that you kind of have to admire. That became sort of the thing that set the tempo for the creation of things like the Fabian Society in 1870.

I want to say 1874, 1875. And then a little bit later, you had the roundtable movement. There was a couple of other think tanks that the British had set up that worked together. They satisfy different. It was sort of a division of labor. They sat like so. The Fabian Society was brought online. Yeah, it was 1874 by a bunch of eugenicists who were social Darwinists as well.

They were both social Darwinists and eugenicists. They're different but the same at the same time. who are applying Darwin's theories of survival of the fittest to human society. And they hated humanity. They hated the poor, but they professed to be lovers of the poor. So people like, you know, George Bernard Shaw, who I know James Lindsay played this radically disgusting video when you interviewed him a couple of weeks ago. Of George Bernard Shaw was calling for massive population reduction, the purging the murder of those deemed unfit to live by border. of scientific managers of society that he wanted to be a part of the alphas. You had people

like H.2 Wells, who became a member, Annie Besant, who was also a member of the Fabians of the theosophists. She became the leader of the theosophist that was supposed to be sort of this new British imperial global religion that would replace Christianity and revive the ancient pagan Gnostic mystery cults as the new world religion. That was what theosophists of, you know, was put into play to do. Just again, another aspect of control. So control the minds, the bodies, and the souls of the people. And you need different agencies to drive each one of those things.

So the minds, the science, the schools was sort of the X-Clubs mandate. Set the temple with the standard models. The methods of scientific analysis would have to be something which would be controlled by those initiated priests. of the empire. The spirit of the people would be something that would be influenced by the, that would influence the culture, influence the religious feelings. That would be more the the theosophists that would drive that. The physical aspect would be the Fabians and the roundtable movement. So to control the political economic conditions that would, that people

would be told to adapt to like animals in a Darwinian cage where the only the zookeeper controls the environment in which the animals in the zoo are supposed to adapt to that scarcity. And so the Fabians would set would market themselves to the socialists. And the Roundtable movement would market themselves to the more old school conservative, stiff upper lip, you know, Winston Churchill-like conservative mindset. But both would work together, as we saw with the case of Lord Milner and Lord McIndor, Fabian and Roundtable are, you know, coming to Canada for this strategy. and this is shaping all of Canada's history

and we can go through examples of that if you want but that's like all of Canada's history is roundtablers and Fabians collaborating to bring about a false system of scientific management with the illusion of democracy but none of the reality so every time you come on you do this to me

I'm trying to wrap you know it's funny I'm trying to wrap like a bow on it you know like I love just simple not simple thoughts right everything you just said, I'm like, oh, okay. So, A, we'll see if you agree with my summarization of what you just said. One, this is app. That's the version, and we're playing it all over again in a different version, right?

It's our version. Two, unelected officials have, you know, like, it seems like such a shocker to the uninitiated, which I put myself very much in there, to realize that bureaucracy, the deep state, whatever you're going to put it, you know, like deep state sounds so like, you know like this this deep cabal right all these different words but like it's just it's it's unelected officials you know in the simplest sense they look at the world and think they have their vision of how it should be this has been playing out this is this is the ideas these are the names you're you're throwing out and some of the ways that they have um envisioned are culminating

right now essentially right like you talk about the road scholars you talk about all these different societies, it feels like it's culminating right now. I could be wrong on that, but like, that's what it feels like to me. And then you said something very interesting in there that I'm like, huh, which is there was this point in time where Japan and China and you may have rattled off a few others that were all starting to hit the same point all at the same time, which was like, wait a second, something's off here. I assume it's the British Empire and we need to throw that off and we can become this place of not only prosperity, but different ideas. And we can start to exert some of our own force on the world, maybe.

And I'm wondering if that is, you know, like if that's not happening as well, all these things culminating at the same time, maybe I'm off. I guess I've just, is that any of that make? You're like, oh, yeah, that's, that's kind of what I was saying or none of it. That's exactly what I was saying. Yes. Totally. You got it.

You nailed it. So when you talk about these different places, starting to realize the British Empire, what is going on specifically at that point? Well, what you had, for example, in the case of France, well, you have a pro-Lincoln president named Siddi Carnot, a scientist president-Statesman. It was a much more regular occurrence back in those days. He came to power in the 1880s. He was murdered, actually, by London directed anarchist, terrorist. assassination program. Of course. That's sort of what, yeah, it was named.

It seems like it's, you know, a standard operation now, right? You don't like somebody who's got these wild ideas. They just somehow fall down an elevator shaft with a few bullets in their back and call it a day. Yeah, exactly. And the conduit for carrying out these murders of good statesmen during those periods was the anarchist movement. London actually hosted the first anarchist international in 1871. People like, Emma Goldman as well who had a giant commune. They had thousands of these communes, which are really weird.

Set up all over the world. They were in Russia. They were all over the United States in Buffalo. They were in Canada and Ontario. They were everywhere. And in these communes, you had weird like proto-MK Ultra type of operations going on

where they would groom certain individuals to become assassins or terrorists that would just blow themselves up or set up a letter bomb in a public mall or something. And that was the age of anarchism. So people like Alexander the second was murdered that way. You had McKinley, President McKinley also murdered by one of Emma Goldman's disciples,

a Polish guy who was thrown under the bus. Later on, you know, 300 German statesmen who were all against the Treaty of Versailles and wanted to revive the Audubon-Bismarck traditions of development, which Bismarck, again, was a great admirer of Lincoln, had applied Lincoln's protective tariff, internal improvements, had all, you know, he was also, sorry, going on you. I'm just once again, I'm like, forgive me, you know, one of these days we're going to do this in studio, you know,

that's what we're going to do, is I go, so is one of the things that really sparked the world to maybe throw off the shackles of an empire was an individual. And it was probably several individuals. But you know, Lincoln comes up an awful lot. And I think of where we sit today, lover hate Donald Trump. He's a figure that's hard not to, like he's pierced all different parts of society. Trump gets talked about all over the place.

It's kind of insane. You know, the next guy like an Elon Musk and what he's been able to do is showing the world that maybe there's different ways to proceed moving forward. And you have these like larger than life characters. when you go back to that time, you keep bringing up Lincoln. And I just go, he must have been. And this doesn't shock me. It's just, you know, it's hard to understand how important one person was to a time as of Abraham Lincoln. But it sounds like to the world, he was saying and doing things differently.

And those ideas, as, you know, we've heard lots can be very dangerous, except I think when I hear dangerous, I think it may be the most positive way. Yeah, dangerous to the empire. Yeah. No, in the sense that the empire sees peace breaking out as a danger, an existential threat if it's done in a certain type of way. Because the empire thrives on divide to conquer in forever wars and keeping people underpopulated and stupid. So that's like the formula. Going back to the days of ancient Babylon, oligarchies need to do those things. Now it takes on different forms in different phases of society, but those are always the common denominators. Keep people as dumb as possible, as out of touch with their own nature as possible so they become more bestialized. and if they're more bestialized,

then like other animals in a zoo, they're more inclined to adapt to the limits you set for them, which is what the club of Rome was all about, was create mathematical models of what society's limits were and then get people to adapt to the limits, right? The limits to growth, which was, again, the program that James Lindsay pointed out was sponsored by Canada, Pierre Elliott Trudeau in 1970.

It was Canadian taxpayer money at a Montobello meeting in Quebec that brought this MIT project of the club of Rome overseen by Alexander King into motion, which then was brought into the world economic forum. So Alexander King, he was the Lord, what was he?

He was the Lord President of the British Empire's Science Secretariat, the most powerful scientist of the British Empire. That was his job before he then is assigned to create the Club of Rome with Arellio Pichet, an asset of the Fiat Ignelli company, which is a fascist company, and a high level, very deep family that goes back many, many centuries, if not millennia. That's tied to David Rockefeller, you know, the Aignollies are members of the Trilateral Commission.

And this is what's created where they're brought fully into Canada, where the Canadian Club of Rome set up by not just Julesaerner, but you have Michael Pittfield, his city libres sort of privy chief clerk of the privy council. He's the guy who ends up creating CIS. you got road scholars like Roland Michener, Mark Lalonde. So all of these road scholars, yeah, Roland Mishner was the Governor General, who's a road scholar. And he's a co-founder of the Canadian Club of Rome, Maurice Strong, a kingmaker and a Rockefeller asset, who's a Canadian godfather of the, he's actually a co-founder of the world economic forum. And sorry, and his name was? Maurice Strong. Okay, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, my, my brain, you're doing, it's, no, no, it's, it's, it's not,

it's not a, it's not a bad thing. I just have this thought in my head, man, and I don't know, you know, I'm trying really hard folks to like quiet that down so I can listen to you rattle off the things, but I'm like, I wonder then if on the most positive sense of the, of, of what we're coming from, right? Because you, you said, uh, you know, like, the recipe's been the same thing since Babylon, right? Relatively, create this construct and then they grow to the limit and, you know, and then they're, they kind of, I think the visualization of like a lion being in a zoo is kind of like, you know, it's just, it's, it's almost like they're defeated. And when you're defeated, you stop thinking and, and on and on. It's, it's, you know, it just goes on and on and on.

But the big giant difference of today than any other time in humanity, you know, I point out the, the negative of like we're so close to nuclear war right like that that's bad but on the flip side the one thing they can't do yet i'm going to i'm going to i'm going to say yet and i don't know if they'll ever be able to do this is they can't control the internet like they're trying really hard right all these different fear things coming out uh across the planet but one of the things is is conversations like this among others continue to happen which is pulling people out of this um well i don't know i like kind of living in this construct because now you're starting to see the construct so then you start to go above and beyond it or around it or or see it is for what it is

and that is maybe well you think of what abraham lincoln could do being the man he was and how he could impact the world think of what one person today can do and how quickly it can travel the world now they know that too so that's i mean like it's it's it's a back and forth here But the positive, if I'm going to point out the negative, is the positive is one person's thoughts can penetrate a ton of the world immediately and the positivity or the where that sends us. It's actually really like, holy crap, that's a positive thought because we could, we could be just at the cusp of amazing things. That's a very good point. The penetrating power of minds to minds right now, we're talking to people who there's probably people in India listening to this right now, right?

And that's unheard of and unheard of in every age prior to our own. So you've raised a very good point that I think people shouldn't. And we shouldn't take it for granted because, again, you know, we've got this window of opportunity, but we know that the oligarchy is desperate to close that window as well through a variety of techniques. So we should use it and have the best ideas possible when we speak. instead of, you know, people want to often be heard without having earned the right to have thoughts that are worth hearing, which is also a problem with too much noise. There's a lot of noise out there as the downside of this power of communication too, right? But absolutely, what

you're saying is totally dead on. And I think when you, again, you look at the Lincoln quality as a human being. He's a flawed human being, as all humans are. And that's part of, I think, one of the ways that the oligarchy destroys our ability to connect and understand. that universal attribute within ourselves by looking at these personalities who were willing to die for their conscience and for the cause that they lived for, they're willing to die for it. One of the ways they disconnect us is that they put forth biographical narratives that either do one of two extremes that are both wrong, which is on the one hand, slander these people and just focus on either make up bad things that they did or whatever, just create a completely

false, slanderous narrative that make them seem like the bad guy. Like JFK was a communist. It's good that he died. And I actually heard people who write to me who said that. Or something. Orgy, you know, woman beating fiend. He was a hypocrite.

There's nothing you can. Don't bother paying any respect. Now, in my research, that's all been made up by his enemies after he died. But that being said, they do that. They create demonic images. Or inversely, the enemies of Lincoln also, like, the Hearst printing press produced, Hearst was a fascist later on,

but they produced all of these angelic images, which puts Lincoln into like a more than human angelic place, which is also not true. He had problems. And so it becomes so inaccessibly positive or so disgustingly negative that you don't see the real man and how he was able to become

and make the wise decisions he did. Or the same thing for Zar Alexander the second or third, or Cé d Carneau or many others, or McKinley or Garfield or, you know, John F. Kennedy. So you look at what was going on around the world. Yeah, you asked me how, how, what did this look like? And you had, it's Sergei Vita, the finance minister and first prime minister of Russia

who organized the first, or the world's second transcontinental railway in Russia built by Baldwin locomotives from Philadelphia. He brought an American experts who were allied with Lincoln to Russia to help build this thing with a protective tariff, small like national banks. They had freed the serfs as well. They had worked to create an alliance to extend that down into Russia through Mongolia.

Sorry, to China through Mongolia. They created a French, German, Russian collaboration as well, which was a threat to the British Empire, which is also very much in harmony with the Lincoln McKinley Garfield networks active in the United States, both of whom, by the way, were also murdered. Garfield, Ben McKinley. And that, it was all based upon this idea of uplifting, of utilizing the concept of natural law, the idea that there's a moral and rational law in the universe that has to be the, the, the guideline for the human created laws, which we judge to be viable if it increases

the potential good. So the potential and actualized good that one can do as a society. as a people and as a nation and more broadly, right? And good, is that a relativist would say, well, good, that's a relative term. It means something different to everybody. So there's no such, it's an abstract irrationalism. I would say no. When you actually look at the writings and the thinking of these people, well, what is good? I mean, being more or more at peace? Like, which is better? You know, I think everybody who's got half a brain would say more at peace. Why? Well, because now all of a sudden you can sustain more people. You can,

show, you could express your higher emotions of love, of, of, of charity that you wouldn't, if you were in a state of scarcity and war and pain and feelings of vengeance and anger. Not to mention the loss of human life. I mean, the first thing that comes with war is death. Yeah. And then all of the toxic feelings, like look at the revenge feeling between Jew and Muslim for generations that's been built in of eye for an eye type of thing, which again, And that's really tough to heal that sort of transgenerational pain. So this is stuff which can be healed, but it requires a lot of work. And the oligarchies love it when we get into that level of toxicity.

That's why they really thrive in initiating things like World War I, which is a war that had no purpose. Even today, official historians don't have a really good reason for why World War I even happened. it's like Archduke Ferdinand got shot by an anarchist from Serbia and then everybody's killing everybody for five years? What? Like, how does that work? And so it's only when you start realizing that, no, for many, many years before 1914, the stage had already been set. The trap had been laid carefully with secret military commitments that the British Empire, you know, had brokered with Russia, with France, you know, behind Germany's back. They had set up agents within Germany to also like jump into this thing. But it took a lot of planning to make this happen.

They required a lot of anarchist assassins to go to play to kill peace-oriented statesmen from Italy and Sweden. They had leaders of all over the world who got killed over this 20-year period leading up to World War II, World War I, which is also where the solution was world government. So you had the whole time, these same people making the war happen were already setting the stage for the solution to the war, which was a eugenics run transnational world order founded by a new League of Nations that was itself created in 1919. And that would be a, you know, a society run by eugenics-oriented experts that would be not elected imposing their will onto the masses that wouldn't have any influence over their destiny. And it was only

because you had a revival of a pro-Lincoln nationalist spirit amongst people around Warren Harding, the president who was also, he died a really weird, mysterious death in 1924, and you know, you had Canadians as well. I mentioned Lurier, Sir Wilford Lurier,

who was ousted in 1911. Well, he dies, but all of his allies what are called the Lurier liberals, very different from the Trudeau liberals later, but the Lurier liberals come back in 1921, and 22, And they start cleaning up. They start resisting the Rhodes-Milner imperial union idea.

They start sabotaging Imperial Federation. They start sabotaging the League of Nations with their allies in the United States at the same time. So you have this nationalist revival. And they bring in people like, you know, Clarence Decatur Howe later on, C.D. Howe, who becomes sort of our minister of everything. a guy who's driving the building of the Avro Arrow, the atomic energy, you know, Canada. So you have this whole burst of real nationalism in harmony with a similar type of process in the United States during this period. And this is what the Fabians and the Roundtable movement are working to undermine. So this is part of our positive heritage, you know, like we could bring that back.

but you have people like I mentioned the Fabian Society was created in England in the 1870s but it had a Canadian branch that was officially created in 1930 no 1931 during the Great Depression this is also important for the people to keep this in mind right the Canadian Fabian Society was called the League of Social Reconstruction it was set up by five Rhodes Scholars and one Fabian So, again, people have been told historically, those who know about this,

that these are opposing rival entities. Like, no, no, no. They're not rivals. They're working to, they're always working together. And you have, amongst those five, you got Escott Reed, the guy who's the, the first head of the Canadian Roundtable movement, along with RD, with a former prime minister, Borden. They're setting up the Canadian round.

It's called the Canadian Institute for International Affairs. that later on becomes renamed the Canadian International Council in 2006. But it's the same thing. In America, in the United States, it's called the Council on Foreign Relations in 1921. In Britain itself, the mothership of the motherships is called the Royal Institute for International Affairs set up in 1919 at the Treaty of Versailles. So you have these think tanks set up to coordinate. And so the League of Social Reconstruction is the Canadian Fabian Society. one of the other so escott reed also is the creator of nato after world war two right so it's it's a it's a

oxford trained canadian fabian right who's who's creating nato um fr scott is another road scholar who's co-creating the the canadian fabian society he becomes a handler and mentor of of pierre leet trudeau pierreliot trudeau had already been you know selected as a by a jesuitical committee when this guy is a rich brat with not much conscience. And he's got the stuff that some people think that he's got what it takes. So he's given easy access to Harvard. He gets trained by a road scholar named Willie Miedel Elliott, who is in the same class as Henry Kissinger.

And they're just assigned different roles in the coming New World Order Gambit. And so Purely Trudeau is given his, he's given a different assignment. He goes to London, gets trained under Harold Blaskey, who is the president of the Fabian society at the time of the laboral party. And then after that training, he's given a 500-day world tour of the empire. He gets to see how the empire works. You get to see how the bureaucracy of this highly compartmentalized, but highly centralized, ironically, global system operates. And then he sent back to Canada in 1949 or 1950. Under F.R. Scott's management, under Norman Robertson also is overseeing him, who's another privy counselor heading the Ministry of External Affairs.

and he's set up in the Privy Council to just like learn how the management of the real Canada works bureaucratically. And then, you know, he's assigned to do some other things in Quebec to decristianize Quebec. So that's what Pierre Liot Trudeau's next assignment is, is to lead the anti-Christian movement to get rid of the, um, the, um, you know, Quebec was like a, a major bastion of resistance against Darwinism in our schools, against eugenics, against sterilization of the poor and the unfit. That was what Quebec was. It was a pain in the ass for the eugenicist because it still had a Christian ethos that human life is sacred.

That's not negotiable. And they were organized because of their affiliation with the church. So you had things like the Laurier liberals that had a Quebec manifestation in the Union Nacional. The Union National party was the party of DuPlaise, Paul Sobe, Paul Sobe dies, DuPlessie dies, Daniel Johnson also dies all premiers who died in really weird, mysterious ways very conveniently when they were in the middle of battling this eugenics-run global dictatorship.

And so this is what just apparently Trudeau is assigned to destroy by creating this, you know, 1960 quiet revolution that gets, that de-Christianizes it, creates a new elite strata of technocrats. Mori Strong is a part of that, that has people like power corps, you know, leadership. now installed as a more French language managerial elite, that would be loyal again to the high priesthood. And so that was then replicated later on in Canada on the federal level. But it first happened in Quebec.

And then when they brought in Pierrelliott Trudeau into federal politics, that's when it was done there. And the Club of Rome was immediately brought into Canada, full access, and we started becoming the Club of Rome government. in large measure. That was between 1968 and 72. That's what the martial law of Quebec was all about, even. But that's a whole side story.

You know, what I'm going to do is I'm going to throw this question at the listeners. Because, you know, the reoccurring thought I always have when you come on is, man, we should really pick some specific topics. Because one of the things that it's, you know, when I tease out a thought out of Matt's brain, what comes is a fire hose and it goes everywhere. and it ties in like 70,000 names. No offense to you. It is, I mean that in the best possible way.

And so I go to the, why don't I position a question of listener? You've sat here and listened to 90 minutes roughly of us go back and forth. Something has struck you and you're like, man, I got to go learn about X. I wouldn't mind if people would text me. You know, you guys should have talked about X more

because I know my brain. I'm writing things down as we go along. I'm like, I'm going to have to bug mad about this. But every time I try and position it, it just you just keep unraveling more and more and more. So what I want to do is to the listener, I want you to, if you're interested, to text me like, hey, you got to ask more about

whatever, whatever stuck out today. Because one of the things we could do is we could just have Matt back on to talk about this is what the audience wants to know more about. I think that would be really important. Now, before I let you out of here today, you're coming to Calgary in September. Did I read that right when we were corresponding? Yes, I am. Yeah, my wife and I, Cynthia Chung, will be in Calgary and we're going to do an event on September 22nd.

So if people want to come and join us, they're more than welcome to. It's like 20 bucks for the tickets, not too much. It's going to be a full afternoon starting from 2 to 6 p.m. at a little tavern rest of a place that has a nice, nice meeting place. Very convenient. So if people want to know more about that, they can email me, go to the Canadian Patriot.org website, Canadianpatriot.org. And there's a little contact button. Just send a message. And I'll send you all of the information about how to find out how to get your tickets and book a spot. And we're going to do something in Toronto, too, a week later on the 29th. We'll do a, but basically the idea is to do these presentations to help people both better get a handle on some of the dynamics of history, but also navigate through the current misinformation shitstorm, which is really difficult for a lot of people to manage. So we're going to try to like provide some of that and have a dialogue with a live audience. So that'll also be in Toronto on the 29th as well.

A dumb question for me. Well, we could take this off air too. We'll take it off air because I'm going to ask a boat when you're in Calgary and different things. How many how many spots are available for Calgary? Just wondering, is it like a large venue, small venue for small venue? Yeah. It's like 60 spots. Okay, there you go.

So if you're listening to this folks and you want to, get a spot. It's not like there's like 500 spots going or 1,000 or whatever number you think is large or small. It's a it's a quaint little spot where you're going to be intimate in a discussion about Canadian history. Is that the simplest way to say? It'll involve Canadian history, but it's going to be more, it'll be global. As you know, from the anybody who's listened to one or two of our chats, they know that it can't, nothing is ever just confined to a Canadian history. There's always something global about it. Cool. Well, now I got to go check my calendar. That's a Sunday. Of all days, a Sunday, folks, to be in Calgary. So that's cool. He'll be here in September, which if you can do that, once again, how do they go? Where do they go? We'll throw it one more time because I'm sure there's people scrambling right now. What was that? Can you already hear the text line coming at me?

Okay, well, go to Canadian patriot.org. Look for the support button. I'm not support, contact button. Send me a message or email, me at Canadian Patriot 1776 at tutanota.com. T-U-T-A-N-O-T-A-N-O-T. I'm going to do them one better. Text me and I'll text you. Okay, let's do that. Yeah, so much easier. Okay. You know, it's not like he's going to say g-mail.com.

He's got, he's got, it doesn't matter. Matt, thanks for hopping on again. Appreciate it every time you come on. You get the, I don't know how everybody else feels, wherever they're driving or if they're out in the field, you know, combining or whatever there's. doing listening to this. You get the brain firing and I always appreciate that. There's a lot going on.

I'll say one thing, one thing. A lot of what I'm saying, I'm hoping I'm tickling people's curiosity to want to read my books because I've done a four-volume book series called the Untold History of Canada. And I did another four-volume book series called The Clash of the Two Americas that are also easily available. You can find them all over the Canadian patriot.org website. So I'm hoping I'm inspiring people to want to do some of the more. heavy lifting of reading those books to get more more coloring of some of the stuff we're

just sort of alluding to. I'm otherwise really hoping that I didn't frustrate people too much by throwing out a fire hose of information. I don't think anybody's upset. Thanks, Matt, for doing this.