Shaun Newman Podcast - #714 - Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

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Now, let's get on to that tale of the tape. He's retired from the Canadian military. He's a former sergeant and member of the Princess Patricia's Light Infantry who served in four tours overseas. He also spent nine years working with the most harding criminals in Alberta. I'm talking about Chuck Prodnick, so buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today, joined by Chuck Proudnick.

Chuck, hey, let's do one of those first. It's good to see you. It has been a while. It's been a minute or two, yeah. Like I'm thinking probably the Cornerstone Forum. Am I wrong on that? I think I came out once after that, Jamie and I maybe. Maybe me, Jamie, and Willie might have done one after that.

I can't remember now. I don't know if we did. Think about it. That was end of April. And you might be right. May, June was insane for me. Yeah. And then I was gone for all of July.

That's right. We definitely have talked. We've definitely done online. Yes. Yeah. That's what it is. We did the president once. Yeah.

And he gets so many assassination attempts now. What are we up to? Three? Two or three. Yeah. Two, at least two, that we know about. That we know about. Yeah.

You want to hear a wild story? Always. Yeah. Tell me. Okay. So when this release is on Monday. Mm-hmm. I am heading to.

Jacksonville, Florida, Thursday morning on a private jet to go see Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, Jr. But it gets better. Wow. I get to actually meet Martin Armstrong in person. Wow. I'm going to get to meet, well, I'm going to run into Tom Longo. So those two are my guests coming with me to Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump Jr. That's huge.

And a shout out, I should say this. Shout out to, you know, part of the reason this even comes to be is Silver Gold Bull, who obviously, you know, is a big factor of, you know, of supporting the podcast and all that good stuff. They're the ones who gave me the tickets to go. And out of that has come this like wild, I don't know, you walked in, you heard me and my brother talking about it. I'm like, this probably sounds pretty weird to Chuck. He's probably like, what the hell of these two talking about? I've heard you guys talk before, though, so it wasn't that weird.

But that's my, I'm like, you know, I'm like, I don't even know what to say. I walked into the house and I'm like Mel, I think we're going to Florida. She's like, uh-huh. And I'm like, hear me out. And I like walk her through it. She's like, oh, well, we'll survive without you for a day or two. I'm like, all right. So that should be interesting.

That's going to be really interesting. What's the event? Is it just Tucker doing one of his? It's the last show on Tucker's tour, right? Because he's been doing a show pretty much every second day now. Yeah. And the last guy's doing it with is Donald Trump. Junior and you know Martin being from Florida I'd shout out to my brother Harley he's the one

who gave him the idea of inviting Martin Armstrong right he'd just come on the podcast and I was like yeah I guess I could like I'm sure he's just going to laugh and say I know I'm busy and you know we got talking and I just chatted with him yesterday and I don't know he sounds kind of excited I'm like, I don't know what universe I'm in, folks. Like most days I'm like, I live in my own world. Yeah, yeah. You run the hockey practice. You run to this.

You're chasing kids. You know, like a funny little story. So a couple days ago where my wife teaches in Lashburn, they had fall fair. So, you know, it's like kids make different, you know, projects. And it's all around, you know, fall and harvest and what have you. And they did this thing called the cakewalk. so you could pay a dollar. Yeah.

And they had 10 spots with 10 numbers on the floor. And the kids walk to the song and then they stop on a number and then they draw the number out of the hat. And if it's your number, you win a prize.

Yeah. Okay? Youngest, he's four, soon to be five. And he does it probably like six times and loses every single one. Losing his mind, ugly bawling, right?

It's almost hilarious. Yeah. Except it's embarrassing. Yeah. And then he finally wins. And the look on his face when he wins, it's almost the complete, off at everybody's laughing now because he's so jubilant and he's excited yeah and he walks over to the

prize table which is just like baking goods which i'm excited about yeah and he looks and he's like dad i don't want any of this and he starts bawling again and runs off i'm like that's that right there in a nutshell is my life most days right yeah yeah they don't want it they want it and on and and then this falls in your lap and you're like i don't know what universe i'm in right now but it's a pretty surreal experience. There, long story short. Well, that's, I think that's how karma works, though, right? Like, when you're least expecting the good thing to happen or little adventure to happen, that's when it comes along. That's, this is going to be a great opportunity for you. I'm happy for you, man. Well, I appreciate that. Now, before I go any further, you know the drill. I'm like,

I better make sure that I pay my, you know. I love these, by the way, especially like right now, Oh, it's got the king on it. Did the last one have the king? No, it did not. It did not. These are new. These are new. I just love these.

I'm a huge believer in hard assets. We've talked about this before. We've talked lots about it. And you being partnered with the silver gold bowl. Silver gold bowl, I think is a really good partnership, especially with where things are potentially heading. I've held on to physical silver in Maple Leafs and a few other different denominations. nominations over the years. I have my own little, you know, Hobbit hoard of it that I like to play with now and then and run my finger. I talked with that at the cornerstone. Like there is something fairly, I think even Tom Longo spoke up about it. Like there's something a little magical when you have a hoard of these that you physically can touch. You can kind of see where, where even all throughout history, you know, you put your little hand in the treasure chest and that's mine. You know, it's one thing to have some investments. And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

I am not a broker. I am not a economist at any level. I'm a simple dude that understands some simple things, and I will have the simplest. Yeah, I think of the Joker, the Dark Night. I'm a simple guy, you know, gunpowder, dynamite. You know what they haven't gotten? They're cheap.

Yeah. Many burdens, like, a stack of money, you know? 100%. And where I think the world could wind up, and I hope it doesn't. Well, that's why I brought you in, though. We'll talk about what's going on right now, yeah. Well, listen, as excited as I am to go to Florida, in the back of my brain, I'm going, I'm going to Florida. And I don't know. Are the Russian ships still sitting in Cuba, or is that over and done with?

I think it's over and done with, although I think they're there fairly regularly. I don't think that was a one-off. I don't think that's a one off. I'm like, I realize, you know, I feel like I'm in this weird, surreal. I told you this on one of the roundtables about the Trump assassinations. assassination now I say assassination attempts which one if on this side it feels really

surreal yeah because you're like you start talking about Donald Trump you know they might try and kill them you're like in the back of my brain back then I was thinking there's no way they're going to try and kill them right like that's too far and yet now we've had three attempts that I know of and um you know obviously one came very close and you know it's like holy crap like

when you start adding up the pieces and you're listening to Tom and Alex, Martin Armstrong, all these different guys talk. You're like, holy crap, we are in very precarious times. And, you know, so then me and Ken Rutherford got talking about it the other day. And, you know, we got talking about it. Well, you know, like how many days away from the U.S. election are we? Not that many.

Less than two months. November 5th, right? Yeah, yeah. So you go, okay, well, is it going to ramp up or it's going to slow down? It will ramp up. It's going to ramp up. It will, yeah. So, I don't know.

I was like, what is, I want to bring this to the forefront as much as I can. Not to put people in a state of fear. That is not my intention. I'm not trying to be the sky is falling. More of like realization of where we're sitting in time and what the next month and a half could look like, some things to keep our eyes on as a population. And just to be in the know, I'd rather be in the know

than walk in and all of a sudden things start happening and you're just like, I don't know what to do. And so I thought, you know, we haven't talked in a while. And if it had been, in fairness to all the other military guys, I called Chuck last night. So, yeah, you want to come to the studio tomorrow? He's like, uh, sure. So that's how quickly this happened.

Um, so that's why this isn't a military roundtable today. I thought to, uh, to have you in person and just talk through it. What do you see? Maybe I'm, maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong. Well, we'll start with the Trump stuff and go off into whatever tangent we go off into. But remember back when the first one happened, uh, July 13th and me, you and, uh, Jamie. Tom Longo was on as well, I believe. No, it was Me, you, Jamie.

Me, you, and Jamie, the first one, and then me, you, Jamie, Tom. No, Tom was in the first one with us, and then it was the shooter, ex-sniper. No, he was in the first one. No, he was the first one. Was he? Yes, yes. Oh, this is terrible.

Come on, folks. Regardless, maybe I drink a lot more than I thought I did. No, I know I do. Anyway, I can remember you saying something to the fact, even after that one, it was the one with Tom anyway. I remember very distinctly or fairly distinctly or, you know, alcohol haze that you'd ask something to the effect of, do you think there'll be another one? And I think Tom and I almost simultaneously said, oh yeah, there will be another one. What I wasn't expecting about the second, especially this attempt with, how do you say his last name, Ruth? Daniel, okay, wait a second, just second with Ruth.

Daniel Bulford was on the first one. So if people want to go back and they have no idea what I'm talking about, 679 was attempt on Trump. It was you, Jamie, and Daniel Bulford. And then we're going to do the same thing a week later on episode. Actually, it says it was 680. I guess we did it. We did those quick, bang, bang.

They were quickly, yeah, yeah. And the second one, Daniel couldn't be on with us. And so we brought on Tom. You're right. Yeah, well, obviously. So they did the second attempt. What's interesting or not surprising, I guess, is that they both have big ties to Black Rock.

And if you know anything, and now that little video that I shared the other day, yesterday I think it was that Jack Pesayevich, I always butcher's name. Yeah. Everybody knows what I'm talking about on Twitter. Of the girl breaking it down. She broke it down.

Now, do I think she's the person that put it? Probably not the person to put it all together, but she at least narrated along with it. She seemed to have a grasp of it. Black Rock is heavily involved in most government. They own most everything. And if you're looking for who's running the world right now, you don't have to look too much further than them.

They've essentially put Ukraine into servitude for perpetuity by about a half trillion dollars worth of debt that they've now put on them by buying up their farmland. and some other dealings in there. So if you look at the first guy that went after Trump, Cuth, whatever the hell his name is, that kid that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got a piece of his ear anyway. Yeah, um, he was in a black rock commercial commercial.

This next fella who, who with no money, no job has been flying around the world, meeting with DC politicians going over to Ukraine, et cetera, et cetera. And in another black rock. commercial. You don't get too much more MK Ultra than that. Like I'm talking the mind control bending. I'm not and I'm and as much as I love my tinfoil hat and I really do and I can go down any rabbit hole with it. You don't have to wear a tinfoil hat to see where that this trend is. What's surprising is they didn't scrub these people better. And what's also surprising is this guy with the AK at the golf course was allowed to live. Now normally they'll have

somebody in law enforcement as clean up or somebody else on the sideline about to snipe the sniper, you know, put that guy down. That didn't happen here. So either this was a much quicker opera. And that's part of their frantic, you know, build up towards this election now. And you'll see it become more and more frantic the next time they try it on Trump. And I'd be surprised if they don't. I could be wrong.

But I think they will try again. they aren't as detail oriented. They just want the job done now. What do you say to the people, including myself, I'd probably go, you know, if the CIA really wanted them dead, they'd just have them dead, wouldn't they? Here's the problem with doing that. They could do that, sure.

But we're also, you and I were brought up on the JFK stuff. And all those movies, the Kevin Costner one and several other ones, and there's a Gruber film and all these other, you know, the JFK did, was it just Lee Harvey Oswald? Was it not him? We all know it's the CIA now. We all, this is just given. This isn't, we don't have to be crazy to think this or conspiracy theories.

We don't have to be Alex Jones sitting right there talk. We all know the CIA did it. The CIA is all but admitted they did it. For the variety of reasons we're not going to get into right now, but we know this. So if the CIA just did that again, you're going to go into a hot, now you're going to go into a hot war, a civil war in the U.S. if Trump gets bumped. There's no doubt in my mind. They will go hot.

I've got half my family's down there. There are a lot of veterans I know down there from serving with them fighting beside them overseas. I keep in contact with some here and there. You can see it just in the general sentiment of the people down there. If they take Trump out, do the Democrats really think that ends a thing? No. No, no, no. In fact, it might be worse for them because then who steps up into his place is J.D.

Vance. And I was a little iffy on J.D. Vance originally because he was an anti-Trumper. And I get it. You know, people are going to be anti-Trump because Trump is Trump. And then he had his awakening or whatever you want to call it. He came, he's talked about where he came along in his journey. And I appreciate that. But J.D. Vance is no dummy.

You know, I didn't understand that he was the guy behind, uh, hillbilly elegy elegy. Eulogy. If you watch that on Netflix. I didn't know that was him. I hadn't watched it before. And then when he announced, I watched him like, Holy shit, this guy's lived a life. And not only that, he wrote and produced, like, he's the force behind this film.

Like, that's, this is the dude. Like, it's an impressive life that he's survived. I won't say live, just lived. He survived. And what he did. He's a smart cookie. When you hear him talk on the news, when you hear him at speeches, he is not a Tim Walts, the other Muppet running for Harris. Um, he's a smart, thought out man.

And he's what? 940 the worst thing they could do is knock out Trump now you have a guy with 40 years ahead of him coming in behind they're gonna still go for Trump because he's the wild card they're gonna try and knock him out because he is the war he's going to end the war in Ukraine I don't know how he's gonna do it my my guess would be pick up the phone and make a call he probably make a phone call or two and he's probably made them already to be honest that's what's scaring the Democrats so not just the Democrats I say Democrats, but what I really mean is

the Republican rhinos who are in with the Democrats, the Black Rock Cabal. We all think, I don't know, I just think a hockey, right? Insider trading. You're not allowed to call a protected player and blah, blah, blah, blah. This is politics. You can call whoever you want. And at the end of the day, you know, if there was a law against that, these are politicians. They break them all the time anyways. Yeah.

So the chances of Putin have talking to people from the United States, I would say, is extremely high. Yeah. It's just not the people in power 100% we look at Victor Orban um before he when you were in here earlier I was talking to your neighbor in the office down the hall and um she realized who I was and asked a few questions and we were talking about like what's going on shout out to Michelle yeah great lady we were talking about Victor Orban and his little kind of peace around the world thing he was doing a few months ago yeah where essentially he was told by the EU we're going to find you for this

kick you out for that. And if you keep talking and talking about peace, how dare you? Like, what kind of animal are you to talk about peace, you feral beast? And he talked to like Zelensky and Putin and Trump and heaven forbid somebody get to the to the table about this. Now, you know, and we are diverging here, but it all kind of, it all kind of ties in anyway. So it doesn't really diverge. It's what we do. But you go back and we talked about this for a minute on the phone yesterday. Back in early 2020 in the invasion, into Ukraine started, one of Zalinski's top advisors is, one of his closest advisors was this guy Aristovic, and I'm probably butchering the name. To be honest, I'm not even sure if that's the first or his

last name. It goes by Eristovic, kind of like Lady Gaga or whatever. But anyway, he is no longer with the Zelensky regime. He left them a long time ago. He does a lot of interviews and podcasts with people and just gets information out there. But he was talking in a podcast this week, roughly, about when they had done, basically brokered the deal with Russia, the peace deal, very early on in the invasion. And he was saying we literally went back. And celebrated it. We were, we literally cracked champagne because we'd gotten the concession that they would pull back and we would, we had some stuff to do and not do. But we were, we'd reached this conclusion that the war would be ending in a few days or a week or whatever, whatever they'd set out.

I don't know. He didn't really get into that. But that they'd celebrate. celebrating openly and who flew in at that point Boris Johnson Boris fucking Johnson and his stupid hair fly in and said no you won't you will not reach a peace deal no you won't I would I would give a lot to have sat in that room oh because in my brain I go why can't she just tell in my brain I it makes no rational sense and Tom I can already hear Tom and Alex talking to me

but I go why can you just tell him to go fly kite because it is If you sign the deal with Putin, now you have Putin on your side. If, you know, other things start to play, I know it's not that simple, but at the same time,

look at where you're at today and go tell me that wouldn't have been the easier choice. Probably wasn't. I don't know. I hate to derail where you were going with your thought. No, no, no, but like,

well, you have to kind of war game out out that way. Like, why wouldn't they? What was Zelensky's, what leverage did they use on him? So what leverage did they use on them? Well,

what do they have on the gun? I mean, can they, my guess would be that they told them if you do reach a peace agreement, you're going to last all of about 20 minutes. But they probably said the same thing to Snowden. And you could just walk out and put and say, listen, I sign this deal. They're saying I'm going to get, I'm toast. It's a slightly different thing for Zelensky. He won't survive no matter where he goes.

Maybe in Russia for a minute, but probably not. Here's what the other reason. So the other reason the war is going on as long as it is too. It's not like Zelensky has a safe haven to go to after this. There's already rumblings and you can see it on telegram from certain of the hardline national units in the Ukrainian army. They're like, you reach a peace deal with Zelenskyy. It's very much Germany after World War I would happen there where you have all these angry soldiers coming back on. That's a shit deal.

We're willing to keep fighting. Now they weren't doing too well in the battlefield, but they were willing to keep fighting. We weren't doing great either. We're just grinding things down over a period of time. And all these angry German soldiers, which gave rise to world. And the shitty deal they got gave rise to World War II. Everybody historically can see that, knows this. These guys in Ukraine are saying, we're going to come back and you're not going to make it 10 minutes when we get back.

There's the other side of the less nationalist. By nationalists, I mean their extreme element that's there. Um, the less extreme element is like, gee, reach a fucking deal already. Like we are in a meat grinder constantly here. Like reach a deal. So there's this split. Like, and I don't know what the percentage is. Like, I don't know.

It's telegram. It's, it's, you know, you see what you see and you only see extreme versions of all events, right? So there are both things happening simultaneously there. Zelensky knows the minute he reaches a peace deal that isn't, you know, great for them, he's done. If he reaches a peace deal that's okay for them, he might survive for a bit. Now, one of the things that he's done in the last couple months to try and get the peace thing going or he thought would was this curse invasion, which, you know, he launches this huge force into cursed Russia. Brilliant on some level, like he pulled off a bit of a surprise on him on Russia and got some ground initially. Like it's, you know,

militarily from a tactical standpoint, well played. You know, they actually didn't advertise it on Twitter like they did their other, the here before was like, at this time, in this direction, we're launching our counter offensive. Like, okay, dumb, dumb. Like, well, that didn't go well, they didn't gain five feet. Um, and lost a lot of dudes. Well, Kersk, I don't, okay, the best way to, for people to understand what I think about

curse happening right now is you've seen Ben, of brothers. Yes. So you, you know there's a good chunk of that devoted to the, uh, when the Germans launched the Ardennes offensive. So this, we're talking fairly late in the war at this point and Germany's on the ropes on the eastern front against the Russians. The allies on our side are pushing as well, you know, making good ground. And Hitler has been for months got like just husbanding all these prime units like giving them extra lead, like pulling units back where he can and outfitting them again and giving them the best gear and the best time off and the best rations and the best everything and they've got the best leadership going

forward these are his hardest combat you know troops these are these are top tier dudes who fought all over both fronts you know these are and he gathers them together and launches them in the arden's offensive and initially really well done you know you can see i mean band of brothers is only shows a little portion of it obviously how bad it was for them. It was horrible. Um, ultimately, it was doomed to failure because it's the last gasp of a, of a country trying to like throw a Hail Mary. That's what this is. Unfortunately, now, unfortunately, this didn't have the effect that I think Zelensky thought it would have. He thought maybe Russia would pull all their units back from the front to go after the

curse and the Russians will use time man and blood. And space as their best battlefield weapon. They use it all the time. And they're using it right now. Yeah, they've launched some counterattacks. And they're gaining ground back and curse, you know, closing that salient a little bit every day. But they didn't panic.

They didn't pull units off the front to relieve pressure where Zelensky thought, oh, I'm about to lose the rest of Donbass. Well, it's all but gone now. They've lost it. Everywhere else along that front, the Russians are still grinding forward. Town after, town after town after town. It was a good TikTok win for Zelensky, you know, this Kersk thing, but ultimately it's a grinder. They can't reinforce it.

The guys that are in it are stuck and can't get out now. It was another Ardennes offense. And with the same thought in mind, Germany lasted about a year after that offensive. not even a year after that offensive failed, I would say that now you're looking at the same if they don't get to the table, like really get to the table, which brings up, well, what else can Ukraine do to combat Russia? And there's been a lot in the news in the last two weeks about long-range missiles going into Russia.

Now, what people need to understand about long-range missile packages, it's not like, It's not like it's some missile launch system out in the field somewhere. What it is. But it's not like you just roughly aim it, somebody with some binos somewhere and you launch that thing 300 kilometers or 400, 500 kilometers, whatever. And you just, well, we hope we hit it, you know, kind of deal. It's not that. It's satellites, a lot of tech. Tech.

There's a lot of tech involved starting with satellites that Ukraine doesn't have. So the people that would be inputting this into the missile system to hit a target in Russia would be NATO troops, essentially loading the gun, pointing the gun and then pulling the trigger on the gun into Russia. About a week ago, Putin put out about a two video, you probably saw it, where he was asked point blank. And unlike Western politicians, he basically says, you know, what he thinks. And is not he doesn't he does sometimes off you skate, but mostly he's like, yeah, Russia, this thing. And so he was very much like there will be a corresponding response if we are hit. And he laid out what I just laid out that they can only be fired by NATO satellites

with NATO soldiers pulling that trigger. There's no Ukrainian involvement in it. In fact, that would mean that there would be NATO soldiers on. Ukrainian soil which we know there are but actually launching the weapon system into Russia what his response will be I don't know the US is so far said we don't think that's a great idea so far the British dude there two tier skier whatever the hell his name is steer he he's kind of all for it like I'm in let's do it Macron's kind of hedged back and forth a couple times like yes we must and then

well maybe not a great idea he's kind of all over about it typical French style and then you have Trudeau who in oppressor the other day said Canada fully supports us launching missiles into Russia I'm all for picking a fight sometimes I've picked one or two or 50 in my life and sometimes they work it wonderfully for me and I'm the hero and sometimes it goes horribly wrong for me this is about to go horribly wrong because it Chuck ran his big mouth you want to know why no because it isn't Chuck running his big mouth it's Trudeau running his big mouth so when I pick a fight hockey or at the bar at some wherever the event might be and then you know somebody's chirping me and i i'd save the chirp and i go right into the go and that's on me you know i i i picked this thing

i did this thing trudeau can't back his shit up because guess what we have no military left we don't have we don't have the ability to impose our will anywhere in the world let alone against Russia. Now people sitting at home going, well, Chuck, we're part of NATO. NATO is wonderful and NATO's going to save us. I'll get into this in a minute with NATO. I think Trudeau is the guy at the bar that as your friend, or as his friend, you probably swat him before he can get you into a bloodbass.

Typically, you would. You'd be like, sit out. Justin, just sit down, drink your daffery and shut up. We ain't getting into it with those guys. I got no beef with those guys. and it's going to be us to go fight your stupid fight. Sometimes you spurred on. You're like, I get exactly what you're saying.

I can get in a fight tonight. I'm feeling pretty confident. Justin, go run your mouth to whoever you want. This is not the time. I had a buddy, and I won't say his name. He was famously horrible at fighting, but he would famously great at finding them. So lots of times we'd be out and be like,

oh, dude, don't. Don't. Not tonight. Just not tonight. Can we just have a beer and go have a meal and go home? You'd have to give him a swat. Like, dude, no, not tonight. You'd be okay, I'm sorry.

Sometimes you'd be like, wind that guy up, unleash that grenade into the crowd of guys. And sure, go do your thing and we'll come in and help you. And that, you know. I told you the story of being at Jamie Sinclair's retirement party and the night before being out at the bar. And I was the voice of reason. I want to really point this out.

But I was looking around and I felt almost bulletproof because there was how many vets there? There was probably 10 of us, I'm going to say. And men who've done things that most men have not. Leave that to the imagination of the listener. We're talking anywhere from five years in the military to 34 years and multiple tours and on and on and on. And then you have a couple of, I don't know, college boys. I don't even know what to say about it. I was chuckling the entire time.

I was like, just look at the room. Just see who's staring at you right now. and foaming at the mouth because all these guys want to fight. I'm like, I personally just want to drink a beer and watch the oiler game and, you know, and hang out. Can we do that? And most of us, that's all we want to do too. Just so the audience understands.

That's all that. It was two college boys who came in and really stirred it up, right? And then they stepped on Jamie's toes and Jamie wasn't having any of it. And as soon as all that happens, I'm like, there's times at a bar where you're like, I don't need a fight. I don't need any of this. And listen, I'm talking like I was a big fighter. Folks, I wasn't.

I was the mediator or I was the guy that Chuck wound up and I went and brought by, you know, I had a couple of big friends. And everybody knows me. I'm not this giant of a man. I was never afraid of it. But it's interesting when you're at the bar and you got like 10 military boys. And not one of them was like nervous about it. They were all like leaned in beers on the table.

Just wait. It's almost like, somebody hold my beer. I'm just waiting. All of them. All at the same time. They're all just smiling. Nobody was saying a word. I'm like, this is the coolest, strangest thing ever,

and I just need the college boys to see it. And once they saw it, they all left. I'm like. They de-escalated. Oh, immediately. Well, if Trudeau had this amount of common sense, and you got to see it from a microcosm of what we're experiencing. 100%.

Globally, I'm saying. Yes. Trudeau is now the window liquor up there going, thinking. He's the big bully. I got NATO behind me. What are you going to do? And it's like, just look around the bar, man. We got, uh, you know, let me talk about NATO for a minute.

Sure. I've talked a bit about it in the past and I'll, I'm not a fan of it. And I'm not a fan of it because I'm not for alliances, obviously. I'm, I'm not a fan of it because of my own personal experience with NATO going into Kosovo, which isn't the driving fact. It's the hypocrisy behind what we did in Kosovo. NATO, NATO is. in an offensive, well, I was

there. We're part of the roll through. The push when we're a defensive organization. What did fucking Serbia have to do with us? They had their own internal. Anyway, that's a whole other thing we can debate on. Well, I mean, Mike Rood was just in here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he said something that stuck with me, and that was

peacekeeping, peacemaking. Mm-hmm. Like, I've never heard that before. To me, I'd rather, in all fairness, I'd rather be peacemaking than peacekeeping. 100%. Peacekeeping is, is this delusional concept that Canada had for years where we wore blue helmets and

nobody did anything to us because we were wearing blue helmets. We just makes you an easier target. I'll tell you that right off the bat. But then, so NATO in Afghanistan, when NATO took over in Afghanistan in August of 06, up until then we were Operation Engineering Freeding under the Americans, if we're going to go to war,

it better be with Americans in control because if we, and I'm sure it will be. But if we go to war and this NATO coalition is trying to run things by a committee, which it might, because Germany has quite a bit of sway, and so to some other nations, let me tell you what happened in Afghanistan. Now people think, well, we're going to face off against Russia with all these NATO countries. Okay, do the math on which one of them can fight. Almost zero of them can fight. Almost zero of them have anything but a conscript army that does a couple of years and that's it. Nice.

That's a great sound. So in Afghanistan, what happened was... I just want to point this out. I haven't done this in... I haven't... I don't remember the last time I... Probably the last time I was here. The blue collar boy...

I'm derailing this immensely, and I apologize. That's okay. But the last time there was a bottle of scotch in here, it was a blue-collar round table, and I wasn't drinking at the time. It was like, you boys have some. I sat and I had a water, it was great. It was a great conversation. conversation, but there's something when Chuck rolls in, he's like, well, what do you got?

I'm like, well, well, all right. I got a couple things, right? Like he runs and grabs, I mean, come on. Folks are along for the ride this morning. Okay, carry on. NATO. NATO in Afghanistan, basically these countries would barter for which areas they would be responsible for, area of operation. And if you're the Germans and you want the northern area that has nothing going on, so you don't lose any troops, Germany gets. Shove 2,000 troops up there. If you're so and so and so, and I'm not going to name all the countries,

because it'd be here all day, and I'll offend a whole bunch of people. I don't care about offending them. I lived it. I was there. I fought it. I know what your shithole country did. And I say shithole,

not meaning you're a third world country, just that you're got a big mouth in the bar. You can't back it up. And unfortunately, Canada can't back up their mouth in the bar right now, or on the ice or whatever analogy you want to use. But overseas, I saw firsthand how NATO operated. It was the British, the Americans, and Canadians did all the fucking heavy lifting. And anybody wants to debate about that?

I was fucking there. I was there. And did a few other countries getting a couple little ticks here and there? Yeah, absolutely. They got shot at here and there. They had a little skirmish here and there. I'm not saying they didn't. I'm talking when after them and hunted the shitheads over there.

That was us, the Americans and the British, day in and day out. So when it comes to us fighting Russia, let me tell you how it's going to play out 100% how it's going to play out. Some of these little countries with nothing to fight with anyway and troops that have zero ability anyway are going to say, well, what we're going to do is we're going to guard the rear. And we're going to make sure the supply lines are safe. And some other countries are going to be like, well, we're going to hold this zone over here, but we're not going to attack. We're just going to like hold that for you guys and you guys go do the attack. And then it's going to be left up to guess who The Americans the British and the Canadians

Maybe the Australians because they had some good fighters over there too Mostly their SF was doing the heavy lifting their regular forces got into some but not like I mean their lineage is literally people out of the prison right they're tough guys I'm not saying they weren't there I know their s f did a lot of stuff and if I'm speaking in a turn about what the regular guys did I didn't personally get to see it I'm sure maybe they did I don't know But historically the Australians are very tough dudes in any in any war very tough dudes their SF are certainly very tough dudes They'll probably get in on it as well So you're talking you what are we gonna field

Couple hundred thousand soldiers across the board I'm talking infantry now I'm not talking armies people look at the look at the big NATO muster list And I go look at our size of our armies no that's that's your army I'm talking how many dudes can you put in the field to fight not supply you know when we'd send 2,500 guys over in a rotation to Afghanistan you know how many guys left the wire to fight out of 2,500 guys about 400 of us that's the breakdown well three or four infantry companies of about 120 dudes apiece you had artillery guys out there another call it another 100 150 depending you had engineers out there and combat engineers which are vital another hundred-ishish maybe not quite that many

Um, I don't even count tanks anymore because that's not even, that isn't going to play in the next war, this war. So we're going to, what, what does NATO got? Nothing. Nothing. And you know how many combat experienced troops NATO has right now? Close to nothing. And I'm not talking guys like, yeah, I went and fought in a coin, uh, counter, uh, counter, uh, terrorist operations for, you know, that counterinsurgency operations. This is a peer to peer war where the Russians have a two.

year, two and a half year advantage in figuring out how to unfuck their supply chains, which they've done, how to, uh, really apply new strategies and tactics. Like, their, their lesson learned and we were doing this during Afghanistan, not as well as the Americans, but we were doing it. From the time an event happened on the battlefield to the time it became a new system that we trained for in Canada was a few months. It wasn't too bad actually. The Americans were quicker even.

like even quicker than we were and and better at it. We kind of half ass it half asked it to be honest. And I can say that because I went back in 08 and the lead up to that training to go back in 08 after my 06 tour, which would have, you know, that year of training that I did, half the time they didn't want to take on the new lesson. I'm like, well, dude, I just did this a few months ago. We're literally going to the same place. We're going to fight in the same compounds.

And I did. these people didn't want to absorb any of that well this is a no six jucky okay but it's still afghanistan asshole that is the nato mentality and going forward if we're going to go into a fight with these guys you're going to see all these piddling countries go well we'll hold this zone or we're going to stay in the rear and defend this building or whatever the hell

they're not going to go to the front with the russians telling you right now and if we do big mistake russia has two years advantage two and a half years of combat and people don't understand the difference between not having combat experience and having two years plus of combat experience. Russia, Putin announced today that they are producing 4,000 drones a day in Russia. Combat drones. What are we producing across NATO? Probably a couple dozen, maybe, maybe a few dozen, maybe that we're giving to Ukraine

that are automatically being used. That's the nature of this war. 4,000 drones a day And that's not including what he's getting From Iran and China Now maybe the parts, yes, but I don't even know the example to give I understand exactly what you're saying

I just go like Sean Okay, working on Cornerstone 25 right? Sean First event ever 2020 To Sean Roughly 10 events later 2025, completely different

The event May feel the same Look even this. the same. But the inner workings, the stuff that I've learned and along the way is invaluable. That's why you pay for experience. It's why you pay somebody who understands how to run things and is a veteran of whatever industry or how you have it. I think I always come back to hockey and different things like that. But I mean, there's just certain invaluable experience. The only way you get it is time. In case of war, it's blood.

You pay with blood. So you look at this and you go, well, can you get up to speed with with Russia. Certainly you can't. It's going to take a lot of bloodshed because you're going to learn a lot. When you say how many a day? 4,000 drones a day. A day. Like you think about that and you go, you said something that I've heard, I think often

is, you know, tanks are obsolete? Why are tanks obsolete? Because it's drones? Yes. So drone technology has changed the way tanks can be used now. Both sides now are using them as like a mobile artillery platform where they'll kind of dig them in, launch their missions. So when you use a tank in a elevated position, you can launch that round, you know, far further

than its direct fire a couple kilometers. Yeah. You can go five, six, seven, whatever, kilometers out. And you can, most of them tanks will hold between 40 and 50 rounds and the, I don't know what their fire missions are looking like or what, you know, but I've watched a lot of video on it. They're sending up the drone. Watch the drone goes over to the target.

And then these six, seven, eight tanks. You know, like two combat troops of them, will fire 10 rounds apiece, relocate so they don't get counter-batteried. And that's what they're doing with tanks now. Sometimes they'll run a tank up into like help push an objective because a tank is a moving beast. But, you know, your $2 million tank versus a $500 drone. And if you're in it, but if you're producing 4,000 of them a day, is it even $500 bucks anymore? Oh, yeah, depending on the type. All you need it to do is a very simplistic task.

You don't need this long battery range. You don't need it to fly in a straight track line. I assume hit a target simple. Like, I mean, it's complex, but it's simple all at the same time. You start rattling off four of those a day. Four thousand of those a day. Oh, so four thousand, sorry, of those a day. And now even if Putin's full of shit and he could be,

and he's only making 2,000 of them a day. Yeah, 200 a day. We know it's more than 200. I can tell you just based on the footage that we're seeing, it's, it's, it's in thousands that he's producing. Yeah.

Um, they're ahead of us in everything. They're, they, so once again, though, you go like, so what's the repercussion of that?

Well, if we walk into this, let's just say you truly believe that Russia cannot do what it's doing to Ukraine. Okay. Yep. Well, the time to have fought that war was two years ago.

Two and a, the time to have fought, right at the start, because I'll tell you what's happened, there was a very, noticeable chance that we could have with even though NATO's fairly shitty if they would have all banded together and some boys would have grabbed their ball sacks and gone at russia we could have pushed them out of what time was that within the first two weeks yeah after the

first now not just after the first two weeks but they learned quickly now they still make mistakes all the time that's the nature of warfare but but this is it's so hard to understand understand sitting where we sit. If we knew take country X is invading let's just do it.

Newfoundland, Vancouver or let's say they were coming up from Coots border. Tell me which one frightens you more. Oh, I got a military guy. He's going to change the answer on me here. Well, me, it'd be Coots because it's a land bridge. Well, you see, you're doing it that strategy.

I go proximity-wise, Coots, they're hours away from where I live. If you're Russia, what are you eating, breathing, living if you're in the military? This fight, because it is real. We sit over here, and we go, oh, yeah, let's just keep sending money. Like, money's going to fix this bloody problem. No. Like, what are we talking about? We're literally stacking the deck trying to against Russia on their border.

border and Putin keeps doing these slight little things or I'm like oh man huh right I bring up the ships at the start because I'm just like if you miss that which I don't think my audience did you're just like I can't believe we're back here and I honestly can't believe we're sitting here in my lifetime with them with the capability and the U.S. is allowing it right like you think about that 50 years ago the U.S. probably would have oh maybe they wouldn't have I don't know but if this was 50 years ago, we'd be, you know, either the smart people would sit at a table and figure it out together and not have a war, or we would have gone hard at a war. This little dribble war, we won't win. Actually, it's helping Russia. It's helping Russia. Because now, now you've created

a strong, I, like, I don't do a ton of jujitsu. I want to make that very adamantly clear to Chuck and to the listener. But we've been doing a little bit of jitsu with the kids. And what jiu-jitsu teaches me is like not to freak out when even the opponent feels like they have the upper hand. If you have control of your body and you don't put yourself in a

really vulnerable position. You can recover at any point in time. And they can expend a ton of energy thinking they're winning and then you do a couple moves in and you're like, got you. And to me I watch Putin and he's doing it all the time. There's no

panic in him. I was talking to Martin Armstrong on the phone the other day. And he told me there's only two grownups in the room right now when it comes to world leaders. Putin, the guy from China. Mm-hmm. And he goes, and that scares me. I'm like, that scares me, right? Like everything I've been told about those two countries, all my life would suggest

those two are the craziest human beings under the sign. They very well could be. And we are in our world of hurt thinking that our current leadership around the world on the western side of this fence is going to win. Now, people will listen to me and be like, oh, you must be a problem. pro Putin puppet and all this bullshit. I am as pro West as it gets. I went to war for

the West. Let's just stop that in his track. I was just on Vance Crow and he had a whole bunch of people saying oh, you Putin puppets and stuff. It's so bullshit. I don't know Putin. I don't care. I'm looking at what's happening in the events.

It's like just do the math. It's just right in front of us. We're going so ever close to World War III. probably closer than we've ever been. Yes. And we're all acting like, well, I shouldn't say we're all acting. You listeners are lovely.

I'm just saying the world leaders are acting and a huge chunk of the population is acting like either one or two things. It's not that big a deal or we can win it. We can win it. And I'm like, what are we talking about? And if we do win it, I'm going to be the asshole that's going to get sent over there. I feel like I'm in the age. Well, let's get to that then.

Let's talk about that. So Aaron Gunn did a really good documentary. I just watched the other day and talked about it on Twitter. Breaking down how broken our Canadian military and the veteran care system is. I can't remember the name of it, unfortunately, but anybody on Twitter can find Aaron Gunn in this documentary. It's very well done. It's funny.

He just texted me because I was bugging him about the, anyways. It doesn't matter. Trying to get him on, folks. I think it'd be great to have him on to talk. about what he what he discovered because I mean he did it is an hour and a half and he hit everything and it was extreme now veterans love to tear down anything veteran related for some reason I don't understand I do and I don't understand it but for me if somebody's willing to do the work that he did to to get into the weeds about

why our military is so broken have the the classic style interviews that he did with the right people that he did and then break down the veteran care side of things He did a he did a fan really great job on it anyway So what does Canada go to war with? Let's break that now again to go back to I'm not a pro Putin pot But I like to fight I'm I'm a big fan of you know if we got to go to war Let's do it let's let's impose our will on people I'm a bit of a asshole So if you know me and a bunch of middle-aged Yeah guys who don't play hockey anymore are in decent shape but not that great of shape

Shoot guns but don't really shoot guns that off and love their country, love their family. But our government hates us, so it's not our demographic that's joining anymore. And this is the thing. So you go, the person you want sitting in this room, I think. I'm not sitting here saying I'd be a world beat or war or anything like that. I think it's a stupid thought. I just think that probably, you know, an athlete who comes from a farming background,

whose shotguns, you know, has a proclivity to that side of the world would probably be your demographic. It wants nothing to do with this at all. I wish somebody would pick up the phone, be a grown up and go, Putin, you know, we've got to find a way. I don't know how to say it. But at the same time, I don't think it's that hard to say. So carry on with your line of thought because I think the demographic is sitting right here. The demographic is sitting here and is no longer joining.

And you can only be called every name in the book by your government. and the people that support your government to the point where guys like us who are hitting that 18, 19, 20 year mark are saying, well, why would I join for that? Well, I'm not going to join for that. I'm not, they hate me anyway. So I don't want people to take this the wrong way. I'm going to try to explain through it once I've said it. But there's this inclusivity push for the military. The military should be an exclusive club. Now, it should be exclusive to any race, any religion and any gender. No, the two genders, not the made up ones.

It should be exclusive to people who can... If some dude who identifies as a man or woman wanting to join the military, I don't think you'd be like, well, we're not going to add you. We're just not going to give you any special treatment for being that. It's like, whoopty, dude, you want to go fight and get shot at? Welcome aboard, but you've got to pass these things. You have to pass all of the things. Right.

So the problem is is that it's an all-inclusive club now and every video, every picture, every thing I see from friends who are still in that send me this stuff, these people are so sloppy. They look like shit. They're out of shape. They don't carry that. Now, there are some still warrior mentality people in there. Sure. And for you people listening, for those of you that still carry that on and you're still, I lived through the dark ages in the early 90s. We called them the dark ages, the decade of darkness when the liberals were just.

annihilating our military like just annihilated it it was a horrible time to be in the military um erring gunn actually talks about that in his documentary some of the older crew remember that period and i remember it very well you might be one of the only guys in the military now or girls you know hoping that polyev gets in and turns things around and i do too but for the rest there's this there's this there's this really big portion of it it and especially in the leadership cadre that is more concerned with the DEI aspect of what's been implemented and the military should be exclusive it should be difficult it should mean something to get in it means serving something your nation and your unit and the guy beside you

or the girl beside you before yourself it used to mean that kind of sacrifice and it does not anymore. Now it is about, well, look at me. Look how special I am. I'm extraordinarily special, don't you know? So you better treat me that way. And I want my hair to be a certain way. And I want to be able to have face tattoos. Now people be going, well, isn't what? There's not a big deal with having like some looser standards and stuff. No. Everything in the military, specifically the infantry starts with discipline. Everything starts with discipline. I don't give a fuck about motivation. Motivation is what you get. when you're part of a team and discipline has already gotten you there.

Discipline is what builds everything. You know, people talk about, well, we'd be fine. We would just, our military is something like 20,000 people short right now. In an already incredibly small military, we're at like 30,000 people or something. I'm maybe below that now. And once again, 30,000, 30,000 isn't fighting people. That's, that's, that's everything.

That's everything that infantry you might be looking at, I think, about three thousand guys maybe at this point you look at a comparable size country of Poland with this comparable you know population they're at 300,000 they want to double that Chuck forgive me I you know I I'm like okay go what the hell does it matter how many infantry men you got if you got the big switch and you can just drop some bombs and boom boom boom boom because ultimately nobody wants to go there ultimately Russia doesn't want to do that either like yeah they'll do wrong they're in a posture because they have to we're going to posture like I mean

not we yeah yeah I mean the West is going to posture because we got it but ultimately we'd rather do with boots on the ground build the best possible negotiating situation and negotiate it out we're not going to get Russia out of those regions they own 20% plus of the country now we're not going to get them out they might give up a town or two that aren't very Russian anyway they might give up a little bit but ultimately they're gonna hold those zones you know and the people just got to get that's what it is at this point um maybe we'll fight them in 20 years now people will go well we'll just do conscription okay you know how conscripts fight not so fucking well

not so great not so great historically have we had to go there yep and many thousands died one of my one of my one of my I don't know, I'm going to say my worst fears, but I don't know if that's, I don't think that's right. I would say my, when I think of the trajectory of where I'm going, if I stay true to who I am, and what I've done here, I go, how close are we to World War III? Close. And if we go to that, Canada gets sucked into it. And then we're going to have a whole, you know, is easy. easy to talk about COVID.

Okay, COVID's done now. I get there's stuff going on, but like to talk out about it is easy. Honestly, I think anyone who can't talk about it, I chuckle about that. It's like, well, I mean, at this point, you know, like talking about man versus woman, I'm like, that's easy. The tough thing that's going to be is if, you know, events play out over the next however long, and we end up in a hot war against Russia that I don't believe in. I just really don't believe in it. What ends up happening is probably your government's going to, you know, arrest you, put you behind, you know, try and shut you up because, I mean, you're trying to fight a war.

And in fairness, I understand that. Yeah. Right? Like, you know, you're going to war and you got people dying. It's like you're going to talk out about against that. It's like, well, think of Vietnam folks, right? Think of some of the larger names like Muhammad Ali and those folks who spoke out about what the U.S. government was doing.

And, man, I go down that, trying to thought. I can only see so far. But that really makes me nervous because I actually see us right now. I'm like, people go Trump versus Harris. Harris says a lot of great things, blah, blah, blah. Trump says some things. Some people hate him because maybe some other things he's done, whatever.

I just strip it all away. And I go, my biggest thing right now is we going to war. If we're going to war and that person's for it, I'm against them. Yeah. No. Stop it. And the only thing I look at with Trump is I think he can pick up the phone day one and go, what's going on?

How can we remedy it? Not even fix it. Just how can we slow this down? Stop it. We don't want to go here. Yeah. And I hear him say that. I go, that's what we need.

We need that so fast. You can't even, like, if I could tap a switch, the easy little button, boom, done. And if that comes up Donald Trump or that came up Harris, I'd be all for it. Yeah. I'd be forward to his Justin Trudeau at this point. If he said, let's figure this out. But no, he says, oh, Canada does give you the permission to send him. We don't own a long-range missile.

We're going to tell the rest of you guys to do. Absolutely. And the thing is, is I look at that and I go, what these people are pulling me into is going to test my metal like it's never been tested before. I'm going to have to tell people, I'm just not for this. And for you, the listener, if you think anything like I do, you're going to have to tell people too, and they're not going to be for it. Look, folks, I went to war a few times in what I felt was a righteous fight.

Now, historically, we can all play hindsight and like all that. I don't give a shit about that. I do and I don't. I shouldn't say I don't. But ultimately, when I went, I felt like I was in a righteous fight. and I fought fucking hard because of it. I was motivated because I was disciplined already and I fought hard because of it.

I fought dirty. I didn't, there's, you know, I did the things that needed doing. So did Jamie, sort of all my friends, so did all every guy over there that went into combat. We fought fucking hard. We fought like our ancestors were watching us. I've heard this among a lot of veterans like, you know, our unit has this.

You had high expectations. Yes, to live up to. And here we are today. And people will say, well, you know, if we go to war, there'll be tens of thousands of guys joining up. No, there will be tens of thousands of guys joining up and we'll train them up and we'll match Russia's army. We'll have more than Russia's army. Do you know how long it takes to build a soldier? And I mean a frontline guy who can go in.

So your boot camp is 10, 10 weeks. Boot camp just means you're not a greasy city anymore. That's all that means. Just take politicians. It takes a full term to get their, you know, Donald Trump spent four years as president, now he's got it. Yeah.

So that's four years for a president. He took four years to learn how to essentially how it worked. To figure out the problems. Because he wasn't a politician. Correct. Now he literally said the other day, like, I know who's who now. So you take this 10-week boot camp,

infantry school was four months when I did it in for Patricia. And it's the same for the RCRs. I don't know what the fucking Van Dues do. They're useless. but the other English unit anyway the royals who are a tough unit that's four months now people will go because they've seen a movie somewhere and they'll go well that's that's only six months of training and then we have this combat capable soldier no you have somebody who knows how to hold the rifle without shooting themselves and salute you know and dig a hole that's what you got that's you know and some and back when I went through somebody who could take a bit of a beating who could, you know, put up with some cold and hot temperatures and run and, you know, you basically in six months bleed the civilian out of them. And you might get to the unit and think, I'm king shit.

No, it takes years in it because now you've got to the unit, this, this new guy, fucking new guy who can't drive anything. He can't operate any of the equipment. He can't operate any of the weapon systems. He doesn't understand tactics and SOPs. That takes years. That's years. That's two more years minimum to get a guy to a point where I would feel good taking

him into a frontline situation. That's the reality of. Now, where we are today and the U.S. is just a bigger microcosm of what we are. They're the same, but bigger, is eroded. We have the horrible training going on now, just useless training going on. We have no gear. They just did a contract. for our new sleeping bags that don't work in Canada.

Are you kidding me? Have you been to Canada? It gets cold and our sleeping bags aren't well, uh, cold weather rated to, to survive in. This is, this just came out the other day. Like we are in such a bad situation that even if we went to war today, it would take two years to get soldiers that should go to a frontline situation. And we won't.

Now people will go, well, I've heard, I hear this all the time on Twitter or at events that I'm at, you know, fairly regularly. Well, somebody, you know, it'll always come up when they find out your veteran like, oh, if we go to war, Chucky, I'll sign up. I'm ready to go. I do some shooting and I'm got mucklucks or something. You know, he's some, the usual, I'm being an asshole here, but you know what I'm saying. And I appreciate them.

I do. I truly do. But they're like, I'll join up. I'm like, we were in a 14 year war in Afghanistan. Every time I went, I saw the same asshole beside me. I didn't see. You or the other guy or this anybody else in this room. It was the same assholes that went because it was a shooting war.

We go into a shooting war with Russia. It's going to be worse. At least when I went in Afghanistan, there were a few young guys that joined up here and there. There were some young guys. I know most of the section I took over in 2008, my second section that I took over, were college and university dropouts who said, I'm going to go do something. So these were kids who had a few. future and said, you know what, I'm going to go do a thing.

It's more important that I do this. I don't see that happening today. You remember the Patriot movie? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying I'm Mel Gibson in the fact that if I picked up a rifle, I could be the ghost and go. But I'm like, what got Mel Gibson into that war? Losing somebody. Yeah, losing his son.

Mm-hmm. And where I sit right now, I'm like, knowing the things that I think myself, and the audience knows. My fear is the only way to really galvanize the Canadian population because I'm not alone in this thought. There's no chance at all that I'm alone in this is going to take something really bad. A huge catalyst.

Yep. And they aren't morons. As much as Trudeau drives me nuts. I'm not saying as Trudeau, whoever is behind them is not a moron. They're just dripping it. Yeah. There's not going to be a catalyst. I look at it.

I'm like, Mel Gibson didn't want to be a part of that war. He'd already been in a war. He's, now that you bring him up, it's very much my, the way I approach war going forward. He'd been in a horrible war.

His backstory, his lore, he'd done horrible things to win a war. I don't judge him for that. No. He did what it took. And if people don't understand that. And I don't think a lot of people judge you, Chuck. I could be wrong.

They can all they want. They can come at me all they want. But, but, but, but, But when you say, like, I felt I was in a righteous war, it's like, well, the thing is, is, I mean, if you go to war, if you're not for it, you shouldn't be over there. And if you're for it, you're in something. And, you know, and then you come back. Like, Mike Rood, when he was here, the thing that shocked me the most, okay, he takes methylquent along with a whole bunch of people.

And seven years later, after all the stuff's coming out, he still believes it's just the soldier, like, fucking sack up and realize, what you've done wrong. And now you go 30 years later, he's realizing like, holy crap, what I was a part of, you know? So, like, people can get sucked into a bunch of different things, I guess is what I'm trying to just say. Absolutely. And I look at, I look at, like, going to war. I'm like, I just feel like there's a whole ton of us that realize this is a bad idea.

Like, it's not even remotely, remotely a good idea. Horrible idea. And the only way to get Mel Gibson in was to have his kid basically killed in front of him. He wasn't there, but you get the point. Go back to Braveheart. What sets off him? I mean, now this is the movie, not that maybe the full story,

but, you know, watching, you know, not once again he wasn't there, but his wife gets done. And you go like, then you can't talk that guy off a ledge. Even if it was done, if you look at that in the sense that Russia's still where I put them right now,

If they do that to us, there's no freaking, there's no story you can tell me. Yeah. I'm going to kill every last one of them. Yeah. And I don't say that lightly. I just go like, this is what I worry about. I look at it and I go, I want nothing to do with this. I want nothing to do with it.

I want the leader who agrees with me. I don't care who that is. I want them to say no more because the government right now is just like poking it. And if it wasn't for Putin, having man, just like, The restraint that he has. Which is insane at this point. Insane. We'd already be at full-scale war,

and there'd be nothing you could do about it, and we'd probably already be there. And the moral of the story is, don't piss off Mel Gibson. Isn't that right? Now, the moral of the story, it's been shown to you multiple times. What gets really good,

but dangerous men into wars is something that you can't come back from. It affect them personally, or what they perceive as personally. and they now do I believe these same Canadians that I just shit on a minute ago you know not shit on but like tell the story of how they would go to the war they almost joined we we actually made up hats for I almost joined now do I believe that if Russia showed up maybe next time you're and we should all have I almost joined I do that they're pretty offensive actually and I shouldn't but anyway I kid but if if Russia showed up or China showed up on our doorstep Vancouver over in Newfound or through the Arctic, which is where I don't think they'll come through there. Although Aaron Gunn does a great job in his documentary of showing how they are starting

to just inch Arctic possession. We can't do anything about it. But anyway, if some other power showed up on our doorstep and I can hear people going, well, the US would, the US would, no. Do people not watch what the US does around? I don't know. I maybe I am wrong in this, but my first thought is the US that doesn't enter my brain anymore.

No. It used to. It used to maybe, yes. Well, I just, I think we, we're allowed to be what we're being because the U.S. is our neighbor. 110%. We're friendly. But like, you know, they start inching. No.

Like, there's been inches being taken everywhere. The U.S. can't be anywhere. And it's interesting that they don't. Everywhere, I mean. They don't tend to give a shit about what's happening as these inches are stolen. You know, China in this last year said that they are somehow a, I'm going to fuck up the phraseology here, but they are somehow an Arctic adjacent nation,

which means that they have, they're allowed to have Arctic interests, because they've got an ice breaking fleet bigger than the rest of the world combined. They're fucking around up there with pressure. You know, they're thinking in longer terms than four years. Generations.

I'm about to ask you about the next 60 days before I get there. They're thinking about generations. So they go, where's the next big frontier? and they're looking at it. They are. And they're going, well, we'll take an inch here. We'll take an inch there.

You come back to Russia and Ukraine. You know, like, people are like, where did that start? You can have any year you want, folks. It doesn't matter. The one I come back to on the podcast specifically was Alex Kramer talking about 2012 in the Minnitsky Agreement, Manitsky Act. And whether that happened in 2012 or it happened before that, it was just one of these little pieces that started to chip away at this thing.

And here we are. and when China's doing things like that, I take a step back and I'm like, where are they headed? What do they see as the next thing? And they're showing you like pretty loudly. They just realize most people don't care and most people can't think past the next 24 hours,

let alone the next year, let alone the next five, the next 10. And at times I have, I struggle with thinking past my own lifetime, right? And trying to be like, I'm doing this for my kids. I feel like I'm starting to grow in that area, but I'm not doing a great job of it. And meanwhile, China or Russia in the last 100 years

have lived through things that have been Western influenced that has drastically shaped their culture. Oh, yeah. You know, we look at the West and we think, well, we fought in World War II and we did a thing and we basically won that. And I mean, we the West. And, you know, something like one in eight Russians

died in World War II. War II, not just Russian soldiers. One in eight Russians died in World War II. I think the Allied count of dead was somewhere around 800,000. They lost 1.1 million in Stalingrad alone, like in one protracted battle alone. When you look at the casualties inflicted on the German soldiers in World War II, 70 plus percent was by the Russians. And people need to understand that if we're going to go to war, it won't be just Russia.

we're facing. You think China and Iran and all these other BRICS countries now, these other countries who are like beholden to them are going to be like, well, just do your, no. These guys owe Russia and China and Iran. These people, it won't be just us NATO against Russia. People need to understand that too.

It's going to trickle into a world war in like anything we've seen and we ain't ready. Well, and they're probably sitting there thinking, Chuck, like this is going to dictate. the next 100 years, 200 years of the way the world works. We can either be the top dog or we can get bullied again and we know how that goes. You know, like, I mean, honestly, you look, I'm going to, I want to come into the next 60 days. You know, we've talked a little bit about Trump and everything else.

But, you know, like, just look at the world. We were talking about it here earlier before I got in here with you. You know, you got a British Columbia election, if we're just going to go Canadian. We got BC, we got Sask. You know, if you go real local, you got a Lloydminster community election with the counselors and everything. You got possibly a Canadian election. We'll see, you know, by the time this releases, we should know, people should know, we won't know. Are we going to have a Canadian election?

You got an American election. And, you know, I've been trying to not seed fear. And I'm going back to my earliest thought on this conversation. I'm not trying to get everybody worked up. I'm just trying to make people pay attention. That's all I want. I want you to pay attention to what is happening as we lead up to the American election. Because things are, if they were fast before, they're real fast right now.

It's only going to compound. You know, when you're looking at things and you're seeing what Russia's doing, you're watching your channels, you're talking to your folks, you see the attempts for making on Trump on and on this goes. What do you see in the next, I don't know, 50 days? So I see more disruption against Trump And I mean destruction I mean They're going to try and take him down it again If that happens all cards are on the table at that point And we're looking at probably

And I think if people haven't watched the movie Civil War The new one that you can get on DVD I couldn't get through it Oh dude it's a fantastic movie It was actually I'll tell you honestly It was too close to home and I was annoyed

because I'm like I see what you're trying to do and I don't agree with you don't get me wrong the idea I see is percolating there but I just don't agree so it in my it doesn't exactly

it doesn't give you sides to cheer for it doesn't give you it shows you the chaos that will ensue if things play out yes and it does it masterfully. I think he, obviously he tries to, I'm diverging for a second here,

but he tries to pump up the journalistic side of it. And journalists used to be important for sure, but that, I think journalists are done as a, I think they're coming back myself. Independence, maybe. But that's, that's journalists. Yeah, it's journalists. But I think you, you, you, that is the only way it survives now.

I mean, but that's a whole other debate. But I agree with you on that point. But anyway, watch. Civil war and get a feel because you're going to start at that thing and by that even for me you're almost holding your breath by the time you get to the end like holy fuck like this was I've lived the chaos of several different wars and it gets you it he I don't know how he knows to do it or how to do it but he will show you through this film what the chaos will be and if they go for Trump and actually get him like there will be that level. of chaos. Now the next 60 days up leading up to the election, that's what I see. Election here, no, the block is thrown in with Trudeau now. They're going to hold his purse for him and that's where we're at. Like the block is now. NDP. NDP. Um, Singh is Singh and Pollyev hopefully, hopefully we get an election, but we're not going to go into, he's going to hold on

in his bunker till 2025. That's what he's going to do. I think. I would love an earlier in a lot but he won't. Geopolitically, Trump gets into office, hopefully, and stops that war and de-escalates and rebuilds not just America, but their military.

So in your worldview, you go, they're going to try and attend, just so I'm clear, they're going to try and get Trump, but they're going to continue to fail because they're not, like, I don't know, Marty Armstrong tells me, he's like,

listen, the computer model says this. Mm-hmm. I go, I don't see how Trump ever gets elected ever again because they don't want him so bad. Like they like to the point where I will be surprised. It doesn't matter the optics. So we're all on the same page. They're approaching that stage now.

Yes. Before they, they very much care about optics. They can get away with like, well, we know that the, he was on the FBI list. Every one of them that goes after Trump is on the FBI list. But they will, they're approaching that. stage now of panic with less than 60 days to go where they don't care about optics. They'll fucking crash his plane for all I know.

Like, who knows at this point, right? Like, I don't know what they'll attempt next. But if he gets in, and I hope that he does, he will stop this war by whatever means possible, end it, rebuild his military, hold Canada to account for our 2% of GDP being spent on the military, not in 2032, which will be about. 22 years after the liberal is one in 20 like are you kidding me we can't meet this little shit hole countries are meeting this Poland is doubling the size of their military and they're over 300,000 now it with top tier equipment and top tier troops like we are the same

population roughly give or take we should be doing this there's no reason we're not well we have to pay for health care well fuck have you seen our health care lately our health care is a joke all of our shit's a joke we need to stop our immigration system as such as it is and bringing in one point something million people a year and this is no slag on those people no it's 1.2 million plus another million students in our education system which blows my mind we cannot we cannot afford to do this you know I I know people who work in different expertise is and one of them's in child care right now and he talks about being out of racial where there's only two teachers and there's

X a number of students and I'm like well Canada's out of ratio. We don't have the schools for it. We don't have the hospitals for it. We don't have the infrastructure for it. We don't have the housing for it. And yet the liberals are still flooding us with people. Not through the fault of these people. I'm not wherever they're from. That isn't what I'm talking about. I worry about me, my kids and the people I love. You worry about your family and the people you love. It's not that I hate those people. But if you're going to come here and lower my quality of life, might start hating you a little bit. Like, if my taxes are still climbing every day because you came here and got X, Y, and Z, and this company, used Tim Hortons as an example,

gets these kickbacks for hiring only some people. You know, we're going to talk some current news. What did you think of Singh? I mean, I guess, well, maybe I'll give my thought and then you just, sure. So if you didn't see the video of saying on parliament or around parliament, getting called corrupt bastard corrupt bastard and then him going all tough on it one I think if you're going to call

anyone that you better back it up better back it up like one okay two or one two the flip side of that if Singh showed that much backbone to some random guy in the street we wouldn't be in the fucking predicament

we're 100%. So you know there's by all accounts the dude can handle himself in a ring some Brazilian who gives a crap I don't care I see him as a politician every single day he's put us in the situation we're in he stands over the guy and he's like you got

something to say yeah got something to say I'm like oh my god you know I'm actually I kind of like that thing but could we get that maybe maybe in the political realm no that's no that's not what it is okay then everything you just said I don't care about I don't care about it either I don't care about the guy calling you what year you know Jack Layton could barely fucking walk upstairs, but that guy would do that in parliament at least. At least he'd stand up occasionally. I didn't really care. I didn't care for him or the NEP back then either.

But at least he had the, he wouldn't have been fluffing Trudeau's purse for him. Yeah. The guy that called him a corrupt bastard just was a little pussy. Like, give me a break. If you're going to be a man, man up and do it. If you're going to run your mouth, back your mouth up. Whether, no matter how it goes. Oh, you bastard.

So yeah, we get to this election with Trump and do what else has to end. The war in Ukraine has to end one way or the other, and people are listening out there. And I know we have a heavily Ukrainian population in Canada. I get that. Yeah, but you come back to, listen, this isn't Ukrainians are bad. No, no, no, no, no. This is, this goes back to what Alex Craneer always says. And he's quoting, once again, somebody else,

but the idea is the black and the red ants. Somebody's shaking the jar. Look, take a step back. At some point, Canada's going to be the jar. And probably is the jar already. I'm getting shook up and you go, who the hell is shaking us? Why are they shaking us?

This is like my mindset on so many things now. And I look at the next, you know, 50-ish days. And I'm like, everyone I listen to and trust I'm not saying they're 100% right but everyone I listen to and trust from a media or commentator standpoint it says this is the most dangerous time we've ever lived

ever I've been around the world in war zones at war and I can tell at least those were regional conflicts and most wars start that way but we are at real risk of this going global on a level that World War I and two didn't see and people need to understand where all those red threads on the fucking crazy guy board goes when we say, well, NATO will stand up to Russia. Who's with Russia?

Who stands to be against us? How prepared are we to fight it out? On a personal level, like you talked about the Mel Gibson thing, I'd be the Patriot. I believe that a lot of Canadians who wouldn't go to war over there, and I'm, I understand that. You have a family and everything that you love here and a life you've built. I get it. I do. I understand that. I can respect that. And hopefully if some bad guy showed up on our door here in Canada, you would become Mel Gibson and the Patriot. And I believe a lot would. I really do. To that point, become a dangerous human. Work on that. Because I hear a lot of guys, you know, in my life, and I'm not talking in the last five minutes. I'm talking in my life. We'll go into a bar like, Chuckie, we get in a fight tonight. I got your back, buddy. Like, great. You've never.

thrown a punch you've never been punched I love the sentiment love the motivation but you have no discipline because you've never done a thing to learn a thing or get punched in the face once I've been punched in the face fucking tons I earned all the beauty marks I earned all my losses you got a you get a face for radio oh dude I not sitting here claiming that I want every fight I've been in but I fucking showed up for all of them and people need to learn to become dangerous and I'm not this and some go out and do bad things. I'm saying I'm talking to Jordan Peterson. Essentially yeah. Yeah, exactly. I guess that because there's multiple levels of

dangerous. Yes. There's dangerous in the way you speak and talk and the way you can hold yourself. And then of course there's also the physical aspect of that. Yes. Where you're like, listen, you're just not going to mess with me today. I'm not in, I'm not in the mood for this. Not happening. Putin, Putin reeks of it. He is, he exudes. Exactly what you want to be. Yes. You know why his people, now people will go, well, they have nothing but rigged elections. Well, welcome to the Western Hemisphere.

You want to talk about rigged elections. That's all. Yeah, probably his are too. I don't know. I'm not sitting in Russia and watching them. But I can tell you as an overall, when the media, such as it is, goes out, an independent media goes out in Russia. And they interview people like, Putin's strong, Russia's strong. Putin's strong.

That's all you hear Putin's strong. Yeah, are they at war? Yeah. Guess what? Russians don't necessarily. care about that. Their whole mythology and lore is steeped in misery. They kind of embrace it better than anyone in the world, except for probably the Afghans. And they work with it. It's theirs. And they use it. And it's their weapon. We here in Canada have our own lore as pioneers, as adventurers,

and as the hardest fucking fighters in any war where we're entered into. There's no one that fights harder than us. But we are not ready for that fight right now. So on an individual level folks out there, pick up a, pick up a weight and put it down. Sharpen up your diet. Start working out. Start learning how to make pew, pew, pew things go pew, pew into paper targets where you, where it, where to, and I'm not talking going out once every six months or year.

And while at 100 meters, man, I really, I was pretty sharp. I'm pretty sharp. I put 20 rounds down. right. Fuck off. I put 20 rounds down range to warm up. Like it's still at 52. I can out Ruckmarch. Can I make a shirt that has a check on it that says pew, pew, pew. I sure. But what I'm saying is you can't back up anything unless you can back that thing up with action. And I'm telling you right now, there's a thing in hockey. You go to a new skate. Everybody just stares around each other.

And you can tell the guys who've played some hockey. It just exudes from them. If they've got a roller bag. So you go back to Putin, and it comes off maybe that I'm like this fanboy of him. I'm not. I'm telling you what he exudes. I appreciate his leadership, yes. And when you get a step on an ice surface, everybody knows it.

You're sitting there stretching. Even the way the guy stretches, you're like, guys played something. He's played some hockey. Yep. Every once in a while, you'll get fooled a little bit. But most of the time, you're like, that guy's legit. He's played. And the same, I assume.

can be sad about the military. I can almost guarantee it, you know, and on and on and on this goes. And, you know, doing a little jiu-jitsu. Let me be very clear, folks. I've done very little. But I understand lots of what's going on, and I'm like, oh, this is like a life skill.

There's a reason why Joe Rogan, Jocko, and on and on, all these guys talk about it. Because it's teaching you something that translates right over to the real, real world immediately, whether it's business, your job, your home life, all these things. Don't get worked up. Realize at any point in time when you're working on these skills or things are happening on your life.

It's like if you don't put yourself in a really compromised position, you can always get out. You just got to breathe, think about it, move a couple things, shift a couple things, and all of a sudden, bang, you're out again. And you're free to go and do what you want. And my look on the world is where we sit right now is if hair is, if hair is gets elected again, or not again, but gets elected. Yeah. I'm like, we're in such a compromised position.

I don't know if we can get out of it. And I don't normally go down that road. I'm normally like positivity, positivity, positivity, but I see what she's talking about and I realize the United States is the bastion of freedom in the world. Yeah, 100%. And they're a global superpower. Let's not kid ourselves. People that hate them, which is not an insignificant, insignificant number of people in the world and

Canada hate the U.S. for being the U.S., the world police and all that stuff that we make fun of them for. However, without them being who they are, the world wouldn't be as good here in the Western hemisphere as it is. Now, do they disrupt and have the maiden coup in Ukraine and a few other things in Libya and some other stuff around the, yeah, they're the world police. They fucking butt their noses into everything. But they're also the reason that Canada for the last.

50, 60 years is kind of not been messed with either. And we're no longer in a position where they could protect us, in my opinion. They couldn't today. They have a decrepit, eroded army, same as us. The culture in that army is people talk about the culture in the army. Yeah, I'm a product of the culture of the army. I probably help produce some of the culture in the army. I hate bullies.

I'll pound bullies all day and I'll go to any fight that you want me to fight as long as it's a righteous fight. you know, and I'll probably go to the ones that weren't a righteous fight in the... Don Cherry would have loved you. Oh, probably. Or will love you. I mean, he's still alive.

He's still alive. He's still alive. He shouldn't say it. He, so in 06, he sent over a cutout of him to go off on a Don Cherry for a moment. He sent out his cut out of Don Cherry and his dog blue. Is it blue? Yes. And bless you.

To us, our platoon, and we all took a picture with it. And I've got it at home. I'll send you a copy of it. Took a picture of Don Cherry. We all were like, Don Cherry sent this to us. He, he autographed, we sent this picture to him, sent us all an autographed, a frameable, like, you know, thing with like boys give him hell or something of that. If one VP give him hell.

You know. He believed in it. He believed in it. If you listen to Don Cherry, he believed in the Canadian military. He believed in if your buddy gets in a fight at the bar, you go in no matter what and he was talking about the United States at that time

I'd be curious to hear you know obviously he's an old man now yeah right love Don I push on that on that because at it now I don't agree with that I don't agree with where we're heading

but I understood the sentiment all through his life and what Canada should have been doing at the times because we also you know I think the West just loved Don Cherry oh yeah like I remember trying to get him out here

for an event and realizing how expensive it was. It was crazy. It was like 90 grand. It was a ton of money. I couldn't believe it. And that was, you know, after his days at CBC, certainly in the aftermath of everything that went on.

But he reeked of Western Canada. His morals, his idea, the way he looked at the world. Well, you hear him talk to draw a parallel to the con. commentary he gives in his heyday about European players and Canadian American and American players to a lesser extent, but Canadian players were the best. We fight and we grind hard. We go into the corner and then he'll talk about, you can tell he's a fucking European player because, well, I'm not knocking all Europeans here, but I've been to war where two of our vehicles, specifically one moment in time where

The, this specific European country with probably a hundred vehicles required two Canadian vehicles, mine being one of them, to go get them in this base, calf, and guide them 30 kilometers to this British contingent they were going to go fight with down the road. And I can remember that morning waking up, given this task with my boss, my platoon commander, who went on to command. uh second battalion patricious uh jesse van eyke fantastic officer um good fighter and being like jesse what the fuck there's like 600 of these dudes why are we going to go two Canadian cars full of about maybe 10 Canadians go get them and guide them here like they have all the stuff we have it's like they they don't feel confident doing it I guess and I'm like of course he's a young guy at this point and I'm like okay fuck whatever so we go do this thing and we guide 500 or whatever of this NATO country into this is the reason you won't say the country it is what it is I don't

shit on all of them just know that I don't think very much of any European nation except for Britain except for the British the British are tough fighters um we get back to this camp and me as the sergeant I go find the British sergeant major and to any Canadian veteran or soldier listening you'll understand that American sergeant majors in a movie are scary a British sergeant major would eat them for lunch like would eat them a British sergeant major is like the scariest human you could ever meet in real life they're fucking terrifying and I've been in a lot of war at this point and he's this guy was still terrifying big sideburns big mustache tall lean aggressive and I'm not even the focus of this guy's anger at this point I'm just like the messenger

I'm like hey sir got them here for you they won't even get out of their vehicles at this point these guys like they're that terrified of being outside of calf at this point and I'm like hey dude and I'm I'm I'm typical chuck my shit looks like I look like I do over there I'm kind of I'll, you know, I look a little bit of a yard sale, but it's an effective yard sale. I have to use a hockey, you know, I'm a pretty effective yard sale over there. So he's looking at me and you can tell he wants to like discipline you. Discipline me for being me. That's fair.

But he's like, these fucking Muppets. You brought me a bunch of fucking Muppets. And he went off on a fucking tangent for about two minutes in my face. And I'm just like, oh, man. And I'm like, I should have just let them. all get lost in the desert apparently and so but what he was doing was showing his men behind him that he had their back that these guys these europeans were no we're no good we're no he understood this he wasn't just saddling and burdening these his men with this european trash and i was the

messenger and i got shot pretty fucking heavily but i kind of I've understood it. I knew my role. So I stood there and took it. Like, sorry, sir. Like, it is what it is. He go, so they gave me the hook, like the, that come with me for a private chat, like, the less yelling chat. He's like, what are the chances of getting your guys out there with us? And I'm like, can't. We're, it's not my call to make anyway. I'm just a fucking sergeant. But we already had operations on the go. And I'm like, dude, I, sir, I wish. Like, fuck, I wish. And I'm like, he's like, these are not going to be any use to us. That's where NATO is.

That's where NATO is. That's where it was in 06. 30, uh, 20 years ago. 20 years ago. And it's only gotten worse. And it's only gotten worse. Because unfortunately, the British army that I fought with loved fighting with beside 06 and 08. Some of them the same guys, three para, both tours.

Same dudes. Same problem we did. Small army. Same fucking dudes. I ran into an 06, I ran into an 08. That's how small the world is. Like, that's how small it is. They're all gone now.

And their army is as decrepit as ours, unfortunately. Because they're fantastic warriors. We've got a bunch of fantastic warriors sitting here. It's just the motivation, you know. The discipline has to come first, and that's gone. And then the motivation will come. And I go one step further. I might, and maybe I'm speaking on a turn,

but I go with the leadership. which enforces a discipline. It's always that. We don't have that. And the only thing that's going to, the only thing I think at this point that's going to bring it about is hard times. Oh, that's always what fixes it, unfortunately. Because what it's going to rise up is somebody's like,

this is the way we do things. I actually scares crap out of me. I'm just like, I don't want that. You watch Aaron Gunn's documentary folks. Watch it. It's brilliantly done. General Leslie, he was an MP for the Liberals till he decided they were too corrupt to play with anymore.

I knew him, not personally, but I served at a time when he was still in the army in charge of the RCHA, the guns. Artillery did several gun camps where he was a dude in charge. I went to the ice storms where he was one of the dudes in charge out there, got to meet him out there to, you know, no soldier I know that served with him has a bad thing to say about him. He's, he's one of those guys. He's in Aaron Gunn's documentary and says, openly, like if we don't have the leadership cadre of sergeants and warrants and some of the senior officer corps who understand what it takes to build a military and they're all gone now, that takes 15 years to build that part of it. That's gone right now. We're a generation behind and we think we're going to go to war.

Appreciate you coming in doing this. It's been too long, by the way. Oh, yeah. I mean, maybe it's just the in person, folks. know. I'll have to get more scotch. But I appreciate you coming in doing this. Of course, brother. I don't know. The audience knows how highly I think of you. And it's been one of those friendships that's been born out of a complete chance encounter. I don't know how the heck this all came. Very much so, yeah. You know, I think of John Rinkima. So a shout out to him.

And John, thanks again. Last week he took me and my woman to the Canadian Country Music Awards. Good for you. We got to sit in a box. I've never been so spoiled. It was amazing. Got to see Katie Wang perform. I grew up listening to her. She was inducted into the Canadian musical thing. Jack Broadneck, Katie Lang fan. That's funny.

She's a beauty. I mean, not technically. But I mean, as far as a performer, there's not many people can match old Katie Lang, you know. And it was a great, great event. So John, thank you again for that, buddy. That was what a night, beautiful night. Well, well, I just think of,

you, the things that happen and then what they kind of blossom into, you know, not to get too romantic about it, but, you know, like, I mean, we just ran into each other. And, you know, and it started with Jamie Sinclair, honestly. Like, it was John reaching out, but it's me walking up the stairs. Yeah. Like, do you know Jamie Sinclair? And, you know, and look at what it's, you know, if you're sitting on the podcast, you've been listening to the entire time, you're like, holy crap.

Yeah, I remember all that. Canada is a small country. Like you said, do you know Jamie? I'm like, known him for 30 years or whatever. at this point. Yeah. Yeah, and you call them

and it's like, holy fuck. Like it's, well, it's Jamie's voice. Holy fuck. I'm just kidding. Jamie,

I love you, brother. Like, yeah. Appreciate you coming on and doing this. And we won't wait so long again

because I feel like over the next 60 days, we've got to continue to talk about this as things unfold because it, once again, I don't want to live in fear. Just think we need to pay attention to what's going on in front of us

and see what that adds up to. You know, like to me, one of the, my big, well, I didn't know. But if I could go back in time in 2019, I would have started talking about COVID. I absolutely would have just started talking about it then. And I would have alleviated a ton of fear out there, I think, by just staring at it realistically. Exactly. And I stare at the next whatever amount of days is. And I don't want days to go by where I'm not paying attention to what actually really matters right now.

And there's elections going on. So we're going to talk a lot about that, folks. I'm not going to lie. but there also is this bigger thing going on that I can see playing out and I'm like I don't know what to do about it I just can talk about it you know F oh yeah 60 days that put that on your your notional calendar board 60 days coming up are going to be critical for history right now these are a 60 day period where where things will be looked back at in a hundred years

and folks don't like Sean just said don't live in fear there's no Don't do that. I'm not saying that. I know I come across is I'm also the other half of me knows that you can do what you can do for yourself. And if that to use Mel Gibson again become that dangerous human that okay if the world goes to hell I can look after my own. I can protect my own. I can I can provide for my own. You know become that person. Lift shit up, put that shit down. Learn a skill. Learn a whole bunch of skills. Learn to pew phew a little bit. You know these things will pay off. in the long run. I've been to places in the world where they have. Chuck, it's never a disappointment. Thanks for coming in the studio again. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me.