Shaun Newman Podcast - #719 - Greg Wycliffe

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

He is a Canadian content creator known for his work in comedy, commentary, and reporting, focusing on providing an alternative perspective to mainstream media in Canada. We discuss Bill C-63 and his campaign to end it. We also dive into whether Canadian politics are controlled and whether voting for the Conservatives is the same as voting for the Liberals. Head here for more info on Bill C-63 https://savefreespeech.ca/ Clothing Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://snp-8.creator-spring.com/listing/the-mashup-collection⁠⁠ Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone]

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Today I'm joined by Greg Wycliffe. Welcome back aboard podcast, good sir. Thanks for being here. Glad to see you. Hope you're doing well. Wow. I am doing well. I think I'm doing okay.

You know, like some days I stare at the world and I'm like, ugh. But I mean, that happens, I don't know. It seems like on this show, like every day I step in here. We talk about some things. Chris Sims just did it to me last week where I'm like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. But then I walk out, the sun's shining. I hang around the family for a bit.

I get a smile on my face, Greg, and then I walk back in here again going. We're going to talk about some heavy stuff that people need to know about. So, you know, that's life. How are things on your end? How's the big T.O? I mean, Tio's all right. Tio's busy. Tio's getting more crowded.

People that's, the world's an angry place. Sean. No, it's not too bad, though. I mean, I agree. It's, you know, when you're spending so much time online, it's easy. to feel like it's over. It's easy to feel overwhelmed. But really when you go outside and really connect with those around you, you can, there's a lot, there's a lot of good in the world as well. And, you know, what I might talk about it later here, but one of the, a big problem is

people do get really demoralized and overwhelmed and full of fear. And then they, in this, in this sort of battle that we're in, they kind of become useless because they are too overwhelmed with fear to really do anything to help their situation. But Toronto's good. Toronto's good. Lots of bike lanes everywhere. It's, you know, harder to get around. Tell me, tell me, you know, we,

one of the things you being on the ground there, right? Walking out the door, seeing what Toronto looks like. You know, I see videos of Toronto. I see different things on the immigration side of things. Is any of that true? Like, are there just people everywhere? Are pets heads falling off? is this overblown?

So the joke that I make when I do stand-up is, do you know how I know that there's too many black and brown people in Toronto now? Because the black and brown people are complaining about the number of black and brown people. You know, like, I didn't even say anything. Everyone else around. Everyone seems to agree with this sentiment. That being said, you know, Toronto is a big place with a lot of different neighborhoods.

So it's not like it's, you know. completely horrible everywhere you go. However, these clips are very real because in certain areas and at certain times and in certain places, absolutely. You'll see the massive horde of Uber Eats bicycle drivers and most of them are East Indian. You know, you will go on the TTC and you'll see a lot of East Indians on the TTC on the subway on the buses as well. It's not, you could say maybe it's an exaggeration in that you only see the highlight reels on social media, but the, you know, it's, it's, uh, it's there. The amount of highlights is adding up, I'll say. I guess there's more and more kind of opportunities to, to capture another highlight, uh, more and more. So, um, yeah, it's, I mean,

it's happening. You'll see it. You'll see it. Especially if you know where to go, you'll see it. So, yeah. Now, I, uh, one of the, uh, one of the, uh, one of the, you'll see it's, you'll see it. You'll see it. You'll see it. You'll see it. the things that, you know, I'd asked, I probably should do more than just one on this, folks, but one of the things I'd asked last week on Twitter was summaries of Bill C-63. And basically, a whole bunch of people got thrown at me. And when your name came up and we started talking, you sent me off some things, I was like, it's just to have you back on, right? You've already been on once.

I might have you back on. And we can talk about 63 or other things, you know, I just see you're making a documentary on it. I see the website. Well, actually, I've read through the website. The website's actually quite like easy to navigate. And I say that with the utmost respect because I've been to a lot of places where you're like, I'm trying. I'm just, can you just give me the facts? Can I just see? Anyways, I had a lot of time for the website. 63. Let's talk about it. You know, we're both sitting here content creators on different sides of Canada. Greg, give me your interpretation and what Canadians need to know about this thing.

Bill C63 would be the end of free speech in Canada. This is not hyperbole. If it were to pass as it is, there would be so many restrictions on free speech that it's, I mean, how much time do you got? Making that, I really appreciate you saying it was easy to navigate and easy to read because, you know, people do need to be able to simply consume what's in this bill. and what we did at sayfreespeach.ca slash c63 if you want to if you want to check it out and and what I'll do folks is I'll put it in the show notes sorry to interrupt but what I'll do is I'll put

it in the show notes so while you're sitting there going what would he just say you can just scroll down and it's sitting there click on it go go take a look yeah and I've been following this stuff for a while now to give context it used to be called bill C36 and this one was kind of framed to be more about stopping hate propaganda which raised a lot more red flags in terms of being like, is this going to be a free speech issue? But a lot of the same problems in that previous bill are in this one. And what we do on our website, because I've seen a lot of people talk about Bill C63, lawyers, politicians, media personalities.

And they're all doing this thing where they're covering it in glitter. And they're giving it the best possible sort of, they're giving it the benefit of the doubt. They're giving this government the benefit of the doubt, the legislation, the benefit of the doubt. And I say, you know what? I saw what happened during the truck or convoy. I see people who are still caught up in legal battles since the convoy. And I would argue that these people had their freedoms taken away. They were thrown in jail because of their opinion, because of what they were saying.

Okay. So let's apply that same very cynical lens to Bill C63. And that's exactly what we did in terms of explaining it. We take each kind of new crazy part of the legislation and say, okay, what is the lowest possible threshold that you would have to, to pass in order to get thrown in jail in order to get put on house arrest in order to, you know, fill in the blank, get fined. And it's quite alarming because we lay it out kind of like in like headlines, you know, like go to jail for intensely disliking somebody. I'll quickly explain that one. They want to broaden the definition of criminal hate speech to include detestation and

vilification. The definition of detestation is intensely dislike. So if you intensely dislike somebody, you say something the wrong way that that's too much, just a little too much hatred, Sean, you can go to jail for up to five years. I don't think I have to say this out loud. But in Canada, I have one person I have intensely dislike. And, well, there's probably a whole list of intensely dislike because I caution the word hate. I think I tell the kids all the time, hmm, hates a tough word, right? Like, I don't know if that's, I can put that on anyone.

but I intensely dislike Justin Drudeau and the entire liberals right now they are driving me insane and they can't get out of the way fast enough followed closely Greg by freaking sing and probably a whole cast of characters

and politics of this ripping up an agreement and then the block coming out saying we're going to support I'm just like oh my God I understand why people don't go into this realm I mean your background and running for the PPC what was that? 2019 right? I mean

the thing about this is I'm like you know Greg's already been blackpilled to this Sean is just slowly getting blackpilled to this or quickly of like politics sucks like it just you know you can't they say one thing they go do a different thing they treat that anyways I'm getting this off topic Bill C63 I mean it's no it's not it's not off topic at all I mean I think that um the world of politics the realm of politics is intentionally and unapproachable. So people don't approach it. Canadians don't want to engage.

Why would they? It's filled with horrible weasels and opportunists and just really disgusting people. And the worst part is, Sean, is the more you engage and the more you try, the worse it gets. Like, the more resistance there is, the more sort of like weird characters you run into. What do you mean? If you can expand on that, when you say the more you engage, let's just start with that. Because to me, you know, if I recall our first chat, you were talking about, you know, you basically, and forgive me if I get part of this wrong, you can clarify, you go to school for media, I think, right?

And then at some point, you know, I assume because my own trajectory, I've been approached about this and I've been like, well, I didn't do this to get into politics. That's not why I started this. But you run for the PPC. So when you talk about engaging, do you mean at the start, you're just kind of doing some, you know, some videos and then all of a sudden you run in, you? you know, okay, I'll run in it and then you get introduced even more? Or is it more than that or less than that? I don't know. I would say engaging is paying attention and earnestly trying to see if you can help to change something.

So, you know, researching, for example, like, you know, because a lot of what you see on CBC and even like for Rebel News that matter is relatively low information. If you start to like dig in deeper and start to engage more and start to do more. research, you find, wow, there's, there's not just, that was just the surface level and competence I was looking at. That's just like the surface level corruption I was looking at. And as you dig in deeper, you see that's actually even worse. And as you continue to go to go down that rabbit hole, you see not that many people care. Not many people are even talking about this either. And again, engaging further to try and do something. You see how it's, it really truly is, is David versus Goliath sort of story because you, there's only so many

major players who have major platforms that can sway things in one direction or another. So if you're trying to, you know, engage with that, it just, it just feels totally, totally and utterly and completely hopeless. And I mean, maybe this is quite abstract, but, uh, I, I guess a lot of, a lot of Canadian politics is very controlled, I'll say. And, um, you know, trying to make an impact on that can be very, very challenging. and it can make you feel hopeless. But to bring it back to Bill C63,

what I'm trying differently with SafeFreeSpeech.ca is let's just try to focus on one specific topic and one specific piece of legislation. And let's just kind of keep banging the drum and marching along to that kind of one specific thing. And let's just try to focus on this one specific topic and try to get everybody moving in the same direction. Because Bill C-11 passed, Bill C-18 passed. this stuff is objectively bad legislation that's still passed we can't even get news on the internet and i saw the same thing happen with each of these bills we saw it coming we saw it coming we see it coming we see it coming we see the wave coming from way out on the horizon no one's doing anything about it

and then five to ten business days before it passes all of a sudden the conservative party says we need to stop this it's too late it's too late to stop the bill and i see the exact same sort of set up happening for Bill C63, and I'm just like, no, I'm going to start the conversation now. I'm going to make the content now. I'm going to be that crazy person banging the drums over and over and what's this guy I'm talking about. That's the strategy. And we're also making a documentary by the way, but, but here, well, here's the great thing. By you doing that, I've already sent it on to a senator who has asked for like a breakdown of 63. What's wrong with it? I'm like, what's wrong with it? I'm just thinking to myself, your senator, go read the,

thing. Like, I just, that was a hard. That was a hard thing. I'm like, okay, okay. I'm going to, I'm going to try and find the best. And I, when people hear this, they'll be like, oh, you need to go read this and this. I'm all for it. I'll keep flooding the information that way. But, uh, it needs to be concise and to the point so that, you know, if you're looking for a 10,000 foot view of like, holy crap. Because I, you know, like, when you say like, there's a cycle to this, I'm like, oh, yeah, you're trying to break the cycle. Yeah. Now, before you said something, it's been on the top of my mind for the last little bit. So before we go any further on 63 and what you're doing, because I want to spend time on that so people understand.

You said something that I got to just ask about. You said Canadian politics is controlled and you kind of went, and then you carried on. Tell me about that. I mean, anytime that somebody, you know, disrupts the matrix, anybody, somebody acts, anytime somebody acts like a need. and is like, you know, opposing the powers that be or opposing the agents, you know, they get attacked. They get attacked by the agents. It's like we can't have this.

I'm trying to think of an example. Obviously, the truck or convoy would be one. Sure. But essentially, anytime somebody in the mainstream media is being smeared as a bigot or as a bad person, it's because they have disrupted the normal programming of what they have planned for us. And it's a very effective strategy. And it's, yeah, I mean, it's, uh, like, so you think Joe Rogan back in COVID when CNN went after

them, everybody went after them. That would be one of the times. Now, that's not Canada. That's, that's, that's, that's, well, that's the United States. But truthfully back then, that was probably international news, right, of CNN trying to go after Joe. Yeah. I mean, it's not really a statement to say, like, oh, it's a whole system of control and like, you know, the shadowy figures are pulling the levers. Like, you know, surely that is that is, that is. part of the reality, but I'm not here to say that I know what that looks like and we should look out for it. It's more of just broad brushstrokes. They are very meticulous in terms of how they try to control the narrative. Like maybe a good example would be actually I'm running

a substack on this, but essentially there's this totally incestuous relationship between the Canadian news media and the political ruling class. And they both simultaneously, enforce the sort of status quo of political correctness and they also submit to it. So they enforce it. They're the enforcers and they also submit to this political correctness. And through this sort of two week media cycles, we get our entire, you know, not just news, but our sense of the world and also our sense of what it means to be Canadian programmed into us through both the news media and the politicians.

And I'll give you a few examples. It only took a two week media cycle to. convince everybody to stay inside of their homes during lockdowns. And along with that media cycle, anybody who disagrees with this is a, you know, horrible, bigoted Nazi. When it came to the war in Ukraine, it took a two-week media cycle to say, hey, if you think any, if you, if you, if you question this narrative at all and you don't think Putin is the worst possible person ever, then you are not, you are not a good Canadian citizen and you are wrong. It took a two-week media cycle to do that. There's so many different examples of this. What's the other one? Oh, if you, it took a two

week media cycle to convince everybody that our Canadian history is inherently just genociding native kids and it's just a horribly racist history. It took two weeks to convince the entire country that that is the case. And if you disagree, you are a bad, bad Canadian, bad, you are not a good Canadian. So that's what I kind of mean by it by it being controlled it's obviously it's related to the news and the current events but it's directly connected just to the political conversation as well this incessuous relationship really defines like how yeah how controlled the canadian public is and also where the where the politics is going to be steered next and that's why a reason why i'm really i like to get on pierre polyev's case because it's like if you're not actually attacking this sort of

incestuous monster of the media and the politics, you're not pushing back against that and calling it fake news. Then it's like we're, you know, we're really still just slaves to this, to this this political media complex that's been steering the nation for decades probably. Well, well, you, uh, when you mentioned control, yeah, the thing I was thinking of was, was exactly what you brought up. There's certain topics that are okay to talk about, right? Like, you know, oh yeah, that's fine. Yeah, we can talk about that. Yeah, we can be raw, raw about that.

Even hating on the media is probably the new one that's, well, not a new one, but certainly Pierre has made his point. And you're starting to see that play out across the conservative world is that people call out the mainstream media. It's become very socially acceptable that that's a good thing to do. But you bring up another one, Ukraine, Russia, ooh, no, we don't go there. We don't step on that one. It's like, but we're on this stage of world.

sorry, we're on the doorstep of World War III. Hell, the door is open at this point. And if certain elections go the way they are in the states, we're probably already into it, right? Like, I mean, the things going on there, but we're not allowed to talk about it. And if we are going to talk about it, Russia's bad. You're like, okay, I think you're all insane.

I would prefer not to send off Canadians to go die for something that I don't believe in. But hey, let's just not talk about it. Let's just act like that doesn't it. And when you bring up the control part, I'm like, oh yeah, that's why it stuck out to me. I'm like, I'm seeing that over and over again. I guess from a different vantage point than what you pointed out, but I agree with what you said in the two-week cycles.

I think that's very apt. That's why I wanted to just briefly talk about it because, you know, like it's almost a different cycle when you talk about these bills all going through. And you're like, we can see it. I mean, we've been talking about this for how long is it right there, but it doesn't get shut down. You're like, why is it getting shut down? Like, I mean, this is bad.

Bill. 63 isn't getting called out by Sean and Greg. This thing's getting called out by everyone. On all sides of the spectrum, they're all like, this isn't good. Like this isn't, this isn't, this isn't good. You get anybody shut this down? And yet here we are, because the first time we talked about this, we talked about this last year, November, I want to say. I think that's when you were on last time. It was 2023, we brought this out. And you're like, what has changed? Well, it looks like it's going to go through. That's what's changed. So I'll bring it back. all the way to 63, Greg, feel free to, you know, carry on with the scheduled program. Yeah, yeah.

I did want to go back to one thing you said there. I'm like, oh, yeah, we just intuitively know that that's something that you don't talk about. And it's like, isn't that interesting how we all have some sort of sense in our mind of what's not allowed to be talked about? Like, where does that even come from? And it's very, you know, that is kind of like a deeper question of like how does this programming like really have an effect on us. But yeah, there you go. This is why this is why we need comedians because comedians talk about what we're not supposed to talk about. I just watched, well, all the comedians are coming out about P-Ditty, right?

And like there is some gold there, right? For sure. But it's the comedians that talk about. things before they become socially acceptable to talk about that you, that's what they're there for. They're the gesture. They're there to talk about things you're not supposed to talk about in a

humorous way to get people to laugh and be like, yeah, that is kind of weird. Why aren't we talking about this? Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. Comedy is a huge thing. You know, like comedy would be not comedy would become illegal. Journalism would become illegal. You know,

just opposing the government would become illegal. And I know that's like crazy to say that, but Once again, like, you know, if you check out the website, you'll see it's so easy to apply this legislation to just like things that offend people or that things that people don't like. And that that is really the way that this conversation of Bill C63 should be framed. And to speak of how things are controlled, Sean, I really don't like what the Conservative Party is talking about in terms of opposing this bill. I don't think they're opposing this bill very strongly. I watched the debate just this past Monday. It was, what, September 23rd. They had another reading for Bill C-63. One of the conservative MPs in this debate, nobody showed up, by the way. It was like 20 people in the House of Commons debating the future of free speech. And people say, oh, how do you know it's a future of free speech? If you're living under a corrupt regime, you think they're going to advertise the debate, hey, guys, this is just so you know, this debate has huge implications for your freedom of a speech. No, they're not going to frame, they're not going to advertise it.

that they're going to be like oh some boring bill uh bill c 63 debate you know just going to boring you know dry stuff you don't want to listen to this um but anyway one of the conservative MPs said we need to throw this bill out on the grounds of it's going to cost too much money and it's like there is so many reasons why this bill should be thrown out conservative MP why does it have to be the one of it costing too much money like can you please have a backbone and you know push back from this lens that Trudeau is a tyrant. We know this from the convoy. Look, you can go to jail for intensely disliking someone. This is a disgrace to our country and our charter of rights. Let's throw it out on those grounds. By the way, let's repeal Bill C18 and Bill C11,

those crappy bills that you guys also passed. That would be pushing back against this bill. And we're not getting that, unfortunately, with this conservative party. We're getting, hey, actually, it's too expensive. And actually, you know what? Protecting kids online isn't really important. And you know what? A hate speech actually is really important, but we need to figure out some other piece of legislation to do this. This one's too crazy. They are validating. And trust me, I don't like to crap all over the conservatives, but like I'm just following the ball here. I'm just looking at what's being said. And they're sort of the way they're framing the opposition to this bill is really pitiful. They're saying, you know, we actually have a better bill that's

going to better protect people online. And it's like the fact that you guys are too afraid or it's part of the programming to not oppose this bill as a potential tyrannical crackdown is just, it's a bad negotiation tactic. So it's very frustrating to to watch this play out. And I got to say, I anticipated this that I really don't think the conservative party is going to push back against this bill. That's part of the reason I started Bill C63. Sorry, why I started safe, say free speech. dot CA. But now that it's happening, and I'm like, oh, man, you know, I anticipated this, but now that it's happening, I'm like, oh, crap. Well, this is why I started this organization to, you know, to fill in the blanks here. But, yeah, no, it's, when you watch the,

when you watch conservatives, if you could rationalize out why they don't have their ducks in a row to attack this, what would be if you just put on your, your, I don't know what hat that is. it's not the tinfoil hat it's the opposite hat of whatever that is and you went this is what's been done with the bill to make it hard to attack would there be you like well x y z or you're like no this is this is ridiculous they haven't even read the bill i mean why i i'm very cynical when it comes to this i'm trying i'm trying to give them what's the best possible excuse i could give them uh like honestly nothing comes to mind other than they are want to protect their own behinds. They're thinking, well, you know, Trudeau's running out of gas. The liberal party's

running out of gas here. We might even get a majority next time around. And we're also doing things that people don't like. A lot of people hate us. It would be kind of nice to have some legal protections. And interestingly enough, the sort of bill that they're passing, that they want to pass instead of Bill C63, which is C412. It has a bunch of stuff specifically on applying the criminal code of criminal harassment to the internet. And it's like, how would this apply to harassing politicians on the internet? Because it really seems like their version of the bill would be able to insulate politicians from criticism online. You know, if you organize to protest a politician because they're going to be somewhere, it sounds like you could potentially

apply this new conservative bill to that and be like, hey, these people who are protesting me, actually it's harassment um you know it's it's funny it's like it's crazy that people are like oh this no this is going to be an improvement it's like who is asking for policing the internet no one's asking for that definitely no conservative supporters are asking for that so so could we say then you know when i when i hear you give the rational thought right if you try and give them the benefit of the doubt which i chuckle about what we what we could then infer then is that being a politician and not sticking up for people's rights, you're going to get a harassment. And they all feel that.

And at times, probably their characters attacked and said some things that are uncomfortable, and they would like the uncomfortableness to go away. So although they don't love everything that a liberal bill has, they have the right bill that would police the internet in a way that still allows for some free speech, but maybe not all of it is in the form it is because, you know, like they're just a little too much attacking going on of politicians and politicians aren't inherently bad. And so by covering all the parties so that they don't get that harassment, it might make life a little easier. I'm speaking bit like a jackass folks, but at the same time, I'm like, if I'm trying to rationalize why a

politician would be like, we could probably do this in the right way. I'm like, that's probably some of the train of thought that I would walk into. Do I sound like a jack? Greg, so look at that. like fuck this guy no no i mean but this is this is you need to be cynical you know like there's some people who still have this optimism uh for the state of politics or for this conservative party and you know whenever i hear these arguments from from these non cynical people i'm like no uh you know polyev's going to get in and then he's going to be really strong and then he's really going to push back against the gender ideology and then he's really going to push back against immigration and it's like it doesn't make any sense like why would

wait like you think he's just going to wait to like to become this like big strong man like it doesn't make any sense whereas when you take the cynical lens or the cynical sort of like perception of what's going on everything starts to make a lot of sense you know all their actions start to make okay well that lines up okay that that that would explain why they're being silent on this that would explain why they're why they're cucking on this and so yeah no and i and i appreciate that because it is a good exercise to um to kind of add context to why people are doing and saying certain things. Well, I mean, I just go, I don't know of, I'm thinking of MPs that are,

that fought against the COVID mandates. It's like, can you count on one hand? All, all two of them, one of them. Right. I'm like, can you count, can you count it on one hand? Like, there's Randy Hillier, provincial MPP in Ontario. There was Max Bernier, who wasn't a sitting politician at the time. There was Kathy Wagonthal from Saskatchew.

who got walked out, I believe, if memory serves me correct, out of legislature. Yeah, because she was unvaccinated. You know, I think of maybe a couple, but once again, all of our provinces, I bet you we can all count off on like one hand, the provincial,

and then federally you're like, frig, I don't know. You're right in Maxime and Randy, both been on the show. So shout out to those two. And I've had Kathy Wagon-Toll on. And then I go after that, I'm like, I actually, I actually don't know. And I'm sure I want to preface this, folks, there's probably a few more, by all means,

throw them off to me. All I'm pointing out is there's a handful. So if we do that train of thought, they missed the boat on what COVID was or they succumbed to the pressure. Those people are still in. So when I look at free speech, I go, another rational thought is they don't think it's nearly as bad as what we make it out to be. But if you went through COVID and saw everything that had. happened during the Freedom Convoy or the Coots Boys or on and on and on, you go, you know exactly what this is. So I don't have to be a tinfoil hat wearer to go, nope, what Greg's talking

about, I'm with. And it's like, this needs to be shut down yesterday. Yeah, and I was actually just thinking about this before we hopped on the call, which is, I remember the feeling, the sense of dread after the convoy. It was very weird. You know, I was there. I was seeing Randy Hillier get charged with, you know, mischief and an incitement to commit mischief. And I'm like, okay, well, I was there and I encourage people to go there to Ottawa. I guess I'm guilty of those things too, potentially. Like, am I going to get arrested? And a lot of us were sitting around thinking, are we going to get arrested? And here's the thing. Conveniently, if Bill C63 passes, they would essentially have the power to go and arrest people they don't like. And I'm like, isn't it

interesting how this bill would like bring back that sense of dread that I had um to again potentially uh use it against the people that that that that have the wrong political opinions and I know that people like to say oh that that you know that's hyperbolic or that that that's crazy it wouldn't if it were to pass God forbid it doesn't but if it were to pass it wouldn't be self-evident right away. You know people would like hey Greg it passed like you know you're crazy No one's in locked it in they didn't they didn't lock everybody up the first week. Yeah. It would be insidious.

It would be a slow and insidious thing where the people on the fringes with no platforms would slowly get taken out and taken out and taken out and taken out. And before, you know, by the time it was too late, that's when people would start to notice. It's the whole, the whole like, you know, they didn't come for socialists. I wasn't a socialist. And then it was too late. No one to speak for me. You know, it's funny because we like, we say these phrases, but it's, it's almost like we

don't even actually like understand like we don't even appreciate that it's actually happening to us uh right now but um yeah i mean it's i appreciate you saying that because ever since the convoy something has felt off for me because we saw every single institution every single major institution fail health care politicians news media investigative journalists everybody crapped the bed and they were not doing what they were supposed to be doing. Um, and the, but yet we've moved on and it's like, everything's, everything's fine like everything, you know, we're just going to keep moving on like that never happens.

You know, no, no, no apologies, no, no addressing, uh, these sort of incompetence and abysmal failures of our major institutions. And that even comes from the alternative media smear, seeer, I might add. You know, like rebel news is kind of just moving on like everything, like, Like there's like legitimacy to to these institutions despite everything that happened. And that really that really creeps me out, especially because a lot of them are propping up Pierre Polyev and, you know, maybe we can talk on that more. But I don't think he has our best interest in mind.

Sure, he would be an improvement from Trudeau. But it's also, there's, it's up to the people to do something. Well, not in our couch and we'll just watch this guy walk into power. So I have a couple of thoughts. One is, you know, like Daniel Smith just announced the, you know, I had her on. What was that now, folks? Three weeks ago? I can't remember.

Regardless, I was holding her to the Bill of Rights, Alberta Bill of Rights. And so it's been announced that in the Alberta Bill of Rights, you're going to enshrine in law that you can't be persecuted for your choice on vaccination, right? So everybody's excited about that. And I had a few people text going, yeah, because that works so well. the first time with this thing called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that, you know, it's just a piece of paper. And then they basically said, why are people so gullible to think

some piece of paper is going to save them when the entire society says, you must do this? And I'm like, huh. It's a good point. That's a very it's a very good point. It's a very sobering thought, you know? And the thing about Pierre

is, so we've been, there's been a group of us talking about this. Do I want Justin Trudeau in for another four years? No, I want them out. I already said that right up to start. But the one thing I am not naive to now, Pierre gets in, Greg, how many people go to sleep? How many? Yeah, exactly. A lot of people are already asleep. Okay, but how many more go asleep? Because Pierre is in the driver's seat and we're off to the races. He's going to, he's going to axe the carbon tax. I think you will. He's going to defund the CBC. I think he's going to do something of the sort of that.

I don't know the full extent. And then after that, I don't know, actually. I don't know what comes after that. I think he's going to try and do some physical, responsible things, but I actually don't know. So you go, how many people go to sleep? Well, I can tell you from where I sit in Alberta, right, with Daniel Smith getting elected, lots of people.

And I don't mean like, no, they're just not paying attention. They're just not paying attention. And so when you bring things up, including myself, I sit here and I do this for a living. And at times it's hard to stay up to date on everything. And so we've been having this conversation of like, maybe Justin Trudeau getting elected again is the best possible thing. And the reason why? Because populations only do things when there is pain. And would you agree that once the pain goes away, you know, it could be 10 years.

I don't mean to say when you bring up Bill C63, I agree with you. think a week later everybody's arrested. That'd be a very silly thing for them to do. But you can see where over time they pick on Jeremy McKenzie, oh wait, they have. And then over time, they pick on, I don't know, we'll pick on Greg, Greg. And then maybe Sean, and then maybe Ezra Levant. And then this guy and then that guy over there. And pretty soon you're like, wait a second.

Where did everybody go? Well, because it's happened over a decade or two instead of this one week time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I think it's a healthy, it's healthy to entertain that possibility. It's a very healthy thing to entertain that possibility. And, you know, why I sort of resent or why I'm so critical of Pierre Polyev is because he's getting away with a lot of nonsense, guys.

He's getting away with a lot of nonsense that most people would agree with. He's doing things that we hated intrude. He's doing the thing where he does Mr. Dressup. And he panders to like every single minority group under the sun. Like, you know, before native born Canadians, by the way. Like even in the recent thing of when when Justin Trudeau was calling out, he actually said, hey, we're going to stop the parts of the foreign worker program. We need to prioritize Canadian youth.

Even Trudeau actually had a stronger message to prioritize Canadian youth and Canadian workers over foreign workers. Where if you look at the messaging that day from Pierre Paliyev, it was like, you know, these foreign workers weren't treated well. These foreign workers were treated like slaves and these foreign workers were this and that. And it's like, can you please just prioritize the Canadians who live here over foreigners? Like one time Pierre Pollyette. And you might say, and it's true, like it is a small detail.

But this stuff is is very, very important. Yeah. What I notice about what I notice about Pierre is he is strategic. Now you can love that. You can hate that, but that's what he is. He looks at a situation and he's not going to be the guy out leading the situation. And what I mean by that is he's going to look at it. He's going to look around.

He's going to go, okay. Oh, three days later, I'm for it or I'm against it. Thank you. Which way is the wing going today? And the one that stuck out to me was the one million marks for children. Now, in fairness, I understand when we were talking about that, you know, there was a lot of confusion on what was exactly going on. And so he looks at confusion.

and instead of being a leader and saying, you know, I don't know, I stand up for parental rights. I'm not all for that. And he goes, what's going to happen here, or at least this is the way I see it, Craig, as he goes, if I stand up right now, they're going to put me in this camp and they're going to target me one way. And so I'm not going to do it because if they do it, then they're going to target me and whatever. Now, there's a whole bunch more to it than that, I'm sure. But when I watch them, that's what it is. Now, strategic sounds like a very positive word.

You want to be strategic. But what we notice is like, no, you're going with the wind, right? There's a different way to phrase that that I use strategic. You can use other words. And right now, you're like, man, it'd just be nice to have a leader walk out and go, we need to protect this. We need to do this. We need to do that.

And at times, maybe all the time, that's not what Pierre is. Pierre is going to see what's happening, gauge it, sit back, not get in front of it because of how the media is going to attack him, because they're going to try and attack him at all walks every time. And me and you sit here and a whole bunch of other Canadians going, what the hell is Pierre doing? Yeah. And, you know, I'm just really tired of this, of the cowardice. Because people like to say, no, it's strategy. No, it's cowardice. He's afraid to get called names by the media. And it's like, yeah, but that's what we need to do.

It's like, okay, so we need to be slaves to the media then. We need to be little media lapdogs. That's how we win. Being this sort of philosophy that the conservative party has and that all of its supporters have, so many of its supporters have because they know that they could be more courageous, right? Which is a big important point, I think. People know that they're not being as strong as they could be.

And so they privately, conservative. of supporters, wish that something would change. We wish our leaders would be more courageous, but publicly we support them anyway, even though they lack this courage and conviction to fight for our ideals. We support them anyway for not being more brave. And we justify it because it's like, well, we're all just going to be media lap dogs. We hate the media, but we're just going to like, we're just going to like sit on their lap and be, be good little, good little dogs and not disobey what the media says. And what this does is it justifies the weakness. it justifies self-censorship of the leaders of the conservative party and also yourself personally.

As a conservative party supporter, you start to self-censor. You start to justify weakness because of, well, the biased media. And it's like, okay, so I guess we're just going to like, you know, bite our tongues on every single issue and water our conservative values down on every single issue. And that's winning. Miraculously, the conservative party has convinced themselves that winning is, is self-censoring yourself. Winning is being weak and winning is submitting to the media.

That's how we win. We refuse to actually strongly stand up and speak with conviction of what we actually believe in. That's what winning is. And I like to compare it to the far left, okay? Because the far left is radical. And they say, no, no, you're not pushing far enough. You need to say there's a, you need to say trans women are women. right like to use the example with daniel smith's colleague the other day they have a transgender person

on a zoom call saying say trans women are women are they compromising on their insane beliefs they have insane beliefs and they're there in a zoom call trying to you know grill this person on an insane belief like we need that energy we need that insane energy the non-compromising energy and if you say oh it doesn't work greg it doesn't work greg look how far we've gone with with the far far left leading our society. After the past nine years of Trudeau, you know? I, uh, I had, I had a lady named Nadine Wellwood on. I don't, uh,

expect you to know who that is. Um, I think I know, are you? Oh, okay. Well, she, she had, um, told me she'd, she'd, she'd won her. Now, let's see if I can explain this properly. Her area for Alberta, her riding. She'd ran, um, to become the UCP member of that. There was other people running to become the UCP member of that area. And she was, I believe, if memory serves me correct, she won out against the other seven. And then the board said basically multiple things and the UCP board removed her as a candidate. And I was like, that's, I go back to control. You know, that's a control. And, you know,

I go, this is what I detest about democracy. See if I can flush this idea out and get your thoughts. is I'm like, okay, in my brain, democracy is, you have the UCP. Okay, and as I learn more, more about politics, in certain writings, the actual election is who's going to run for the UCP. Because, you know, if you take my area, we've been conservative blue for ever, you know, I'm being a little tongue in cheek, but it has been a long time. You get your name on that ballot as a UCP, you're winning. Like, nobody else is winning that area.

Got it. Yeah. So the actual election is before that. It's the who's going to run for the UCP. And so I listened to her and I'm like, man, this woman is spit and fire. There is a ton of stuff that I love about what she's talking about. And yet, because she says the things and she goes that far and you might like enjoy this, she ran for the PPC way back when as well.

So you can get a feel for who she is. She said, and now I'm sure. that people are going to say, oh, but it was this and it was this and it was this. But she was very upset with Jason Kenney, Premier during COVID, Tyler Shandrel, another one in the government of Alberta during COVID and wanted them held accountable. One, two, she doesn't believe the narrative around Ukraine and Russia is correct. And she would like to talk about that. And then three, they told her she wasn't a team player. And so they removed her and wouldn't allow her to run for the UCP. Now they've created this huge enemy of theirs where you go, isn't, isn't like democracy

where people get to choose who they want to represent them, so they'll go represent them. But you talk about this control. That's them putting their finger on the scale. So this doesn't happen. This is not allowed to happen. And I go now in fairness to that train of thinking, I go, yeah, but Sean, what you're saying is, is if there was this completely bad shit crazy guy. Just think me and Greg sit down with the guy and we're like, you are insane. Would you, if you're running the conservative party, be like, well, that's the only candidate around. That's what we got to put on there. Or would you put your finger on?

Because eventually there comes a point where there's somebody even too crazy for us. I guess is what I'm trying to think out the thought process of. Does that make sense? Am I making any sense? No, yeah. No, you're making sense. In regards to the bad shit crazy guy, I mean, would he be voted in the party? Like would he actually win the most votes?

Because that's what that's how the democracy would work. You know what I mean? Personally, I think, you know, if the UCP members were smart, they were like, let's probably not vote in this bad shit crazy guy. Let's let's put in this Nadine person who is aggressive with their talking points and like, you know, represents Canada first values. And it's funny because I love how you started that with like, you know what I hate about democracy.

And the problem is, is sure, we have these like democratic voting systems. Dominion voting systems. Anyway, but we have these Democratic voting systems. But the problem is these major parties are run like fascist dictatorships. If you actually go into the actual parties, sure, they might have their own system of voting within the parties, but a lot of that can be heavily influencing. It's getting elected at the cost of everything. The most important thing is getting elected, gaining power. You're like, I, I've held on in the thought.

Supposedly, because I wasn't around, okay? Or I mean, I was, but I was definitely not interested in politics. But supposedly the greatest premier of Alberta history, Ralph Klein. And supposedly, I'm told that he ran on, I don't care if I get elected four years later. And then he became, and he went and did things that wouldn't get him elected four years later. And he got elected and became the greatest. And I'm like, what's the lesson there, politicians? The lesson is, stop worrying about getting reelected and how that's going to play out.

Just start going and doing. Except everyone says that. I've yet to see it. I've yet to see a politician run on I'm going to go in. I don't give a crap what you think of me in four years. Do we have one of those? I don't think we do. I've yet to see it.

I hear these stories. I've yet to see it. And supposedly the guy who ran on that became the greatest premier of Alberta's history and got reelected a whole bunch of times. When he stepped down, his approval rating was 73%, and he wanted something like 90s. So he was like 73% not happening.

Current prime minute, current premier of Alberta, Daniel Smith, when she got elected to the UCP was 54% just to put it in context. This guy was a juggernaut. And that was at the end of like, I don't know, 20 years or whatever he was in. I'm, you know, I'm spacing on, I could probably look it up. I'll look it up before I get off here. So I actually have factual how long he was in. And yet nobody seems to, it's like, well, if you say things, then you talk about the parties

and how they do it, will they put their finger on the scale? No, I don't need that because they're worried about not getting elected. But the history would show if you had 20 candidates come in, 50 candidates come in, 100 candidates come in, and they weren't worried about eight years from now. They were worried about today, fixing today. Chances are they get elected again. Yeah, yeah. I really appreciate that.

the sort of boldness of a politician to say like, hey, I don't really care what you think. This is what I'm going to do. You know, you can kick me out if you feel like it. That's the sort of energy that we need. And I think broadly across the country, the problem with more right wing conservative, freedom minded people is we're still putting faith in these establishment conservative types. And there might be the infrastructure that we need there in terms of like the actual party and all the little like nuts and bolts of the actual like sort of system.

However, they establishment conservatives don't really offer us anything of what we need right now. They offer us the status quo. They offer us the fear of the mainstream media. They offer us more sort of like this this weird culture of silence that has started to just dominate the right wing in Canada. And the thing is, guys, is like we are the cornered animal. In terms of where we are in this fight, we are the cornered, scared animal. Don't say something that's going to be racist.

Don't say something that's going to be sexist. Don't say about a line. Like that's our enemy shouting at us and disciplining us in the corner not to say anything. And the establishment conservatives are like, okay, guys, that's what that's the framework we need to work in. And we seriously think we're going to turn this country around. Are you kidding me? What we need is a, is a culture of boisterousness. We need more of a culture of, of aggression or righteous anger of I don't care what the consequences.

are going to be if I speak out. We have freedom of speech right now, Sean, and we're not even using it. I've realized this when I started the safe free speech project, which is like, I bet people, I bet if I pressed people, they would essentially say, well, I'm not going to actually say how I feel. And it's like, are we a nation that even deserves free speech at this point? You know, like we're giving in to more on the fear, more of the censorship, more of the self-censorship. And I really hope, I don't know how it's going to happen, but, you know, if I had, a magic wand, I would wave the magic wand and I would make it so right wing conservative Canadians were stopped being afraid of just speaking their minds. Because right now we're under

this weird spell where we've justified the self-centorship. We're afraid of associating people who are even a bit further right than us when we should be doing the complete opposite. Recognizing that people who are further right than us, especially if they are look good and are very good at presenting themselves, we need to be championing, championing. those people and rewarding those people instead of rewarding the opposite, which is rewarding the cowards, rewarding the strategy, and complying with this culture of silence where people are constantly biting their tongues more and more. That's my speech of the day.

That's my inspiring soap buck. I think it's great. I want to point this out so I don't forget that Ralph Klein was from 1990, 1990 to 2006, okay? Just for everybody's. So when I say he's the greatest premier of all time in Alberta, that's because it's in recent memory as well, right? I'm sure there were, you know, I think of Ernest Manning is one that was here for a very long time. And I assume he goes high up the chain in Alberta. When you talk about conservatives finding their voice, that's a, that's it.

That's an interesting, interesting problem. And we watched through COVID how that played out with people. people's jobs and and on and on and on. I tell this story from time to time. I was sitting on a stage in Irma of Alberta, Irma, Alberta of all places. And I was sitting on stage and I was there with some high profile NHL executives or NHL, you know, radio, an agent, and then a former coach. And I was sitting there and I opened on stage with a joke about Bud Light because it was right around Dylan Mulvaney. And I want to be very clear here. folks. I'm not a comedian. I wasn't planning it to be that funny, but the crowd exploded,

right? I was almost as shocked as they were, you know, and I guess it was because I said it, right? And they probably weren't expecting me to bring up Bud Light, Dillan Mulvaney, small town, comfort, anyway, they turn around. Do you remember, sorry, remember the joke in question of what you said? Well, they were making fun of me because here in Alberta and Saskatchewan, if you drink Pilsner, which is a Saskatchewan beer, Albertans think it's funny. They think it's cheap beer, blah, blah, of a buck and i went to irma alberta and i found my first person drinking bud light right after dillan milvaney when everybody who's like fuck bud light not getting any further near there so i got up on the stage and said something to the effect of like you know you know i come all the way to irma alberta

i'm drinking my pilsner and everybody's making funny me and they're all chuckling right because they're all in on this little joke of like pilsner being bad i said but it's funny i had to come all the way to small town alberna to finally find somebody willing to drink bud light again and i forget how i phrased it but that was basically the punchline. I didn't think it was much of a punchline. I just thought it was a clever thought. And the crowd exploded. I turn around. Here's these three powerful men, in my opinion. None of them laughing. Not a single smirk. And I didn't realize at the time of, you know, how much control or influence or both Bud Light has on the NHL, right? Being a major sponsor of it, et cetera, et cetera. And if I go back even further, folks to Ron McLean,

and everybody can hold their thoughts on him, I'm sure. But if you go back to his story, what's interesting about it is he tells his story and he's almost like proud of it. When he first started with CBC, he went out for dinner, I believe was in Calgary, Alberta, and he ordered a Heineken at a dinner room with executives. And after the meal, a guy came up and shoulder tapped him and said, if you ever order Heineken again, you will never work for us ever again. We drink Moulson.

And from that time on, he was Moulson. And he tells us a problem. he's not ashamed of it and you go oh and my brother told me i stepped i didn't realize what had gone on i'm like why i thought why is the crowd laughing and the three guys aren't laughing dillum mulvaney a transgendered female is on the can of like this blue collar hockey raw raw and none of them were going to laugh they acted like they didn't know what's going on well i have no idea what are you talking about i'm like wow i was so confused i was like what's going on how how does everybody laugh and i'm laughing and these guys don't know what's going on.

Oh, well, it's because, you know, in fairness, if you rationalize that out, let's rationalize it out. One of them gets a picture laughing at a joke with transgendered this, even though it's small town, Alberta, but here's the days of phones and everything. They get their picture, it blows up online, and they never work in the NHL again. Let's just go to the most extreme thing.

Sure. And then take that train of thought and put it to politics and talking about any of this. Look at Jennifer Johnson, the Alberta, MLA that you talked about with the video that exploded. If you go back and listen to her original comments, I think it was a porn analogy. She talks about baking cookies and putting poop in it. And you're like, so what does mainstream media do?

They take poop, transgender, and she compared it. So now she's independent and she's going to remain independent. But I go, well, go listen to the whole thing. I'm all for having somebody on to explain their thoughts, right? And what she was talking about is it doesn't matter how good our classrooms are doing when we have litter boxes and allowing kids to transition at age seven and change their names without their parents' knowledge is. This is a scar on our history like no other.

Basically is what she's saying. But what they cut out? And now nobody's even allowing her to like say, well, actually, it was a poor analogy, but what I was trying to say was X. I should have trained my thoughts better, whatever. And we have these weird thing going on with conservatives where we're like so high. hard on our own even. So it's not only they won't speak their mind, the people that do speak their mind, as soon as they get out of line just one bit, and let me tell you, when you open

your mouth about controversial subjects, you're not going to get it all right. And then, boom, they're out and where you sit where we sit. Yeah, yeah, no, you bring up a couple of very interesting examples. And, you know, where do we want to go from here? I'm concerned because I feel like we're on the precipice of something of if we continue to give into this culture of censorship and this culture of silence where we don't even have the right to be wrong anymore according to somebody we don't even have the right to like say the wrong thing then we're going to pass the point of no return where oh no we just slipped Canada slipped and fell under the sort of threshold of being a free country and now this sort of culture of silence is the law you know like because

right now the consequences sure there's consequences but with bill c63 it would essentially be like the law to be woke the law to not criticize gay people the law to not criticize mass migration the law to not be too critical of the government and that's why i really don't have any faith in the establishment conservative party i i think that it's it's in the people who need to speak up and start speaking out and and saying i'm actually going to fight for this then eventually the conservative party might swoop in and save the day and take all the credit. But, you know, people need to, people really need to start realizing that it's cliche, but the, the answer, the solution is within us to actually start changing the culture individually. It's not going to happen from some

stuffy guy in a suit who works for the conservative party. They're not going to save us on this one. Well, I, apologies for interrupting. My, um, you're 100%. What do we just talk about with Pierre? He's going to wait and see how things pull out. And if nobody raises the alarm on 63 or anything else, just take whatever issue you're thinking of, there's a good chance. He just allows it to happen. Because we already know his strategy.

His strategy, love it or hate it, is to gauge everybody and go, okay, this is where we're going. So on a flip side of that, that's really interesting. Because if you blow up C-63, right, and I mean blow up by by getting it in front of everybody henceforth me having you on there is the possibility that the winds change and he goes oh we got to talk about this we have to

now this is a popular thing to do so in one one sense it's the knowing his strategy which I think we all can see we can you're doing it you're like okay well we have to get ahead of this because we have to change their mind that is although the easy thing to recognize it's the hardest thing to do because you're not talking about a thousand Canadians going rah rah we need to get rid of C63 it's like no we have to have a crazy amount of push on this a crazy amount and maybe that's a better question for you you know one people can go to your website from their website I believe you have links of things of action where

they can like, hey, email parliament, do these things. You're, you're channeling Chris Sims of like, this is a Chris Sims thing. If you believe in X, this is what you have to do. You got to get you got to push on your MPs. You got to do this, this, this. Now, there's a whole bunch of people that are frustrated that by COVID, and I 100% agree. But is there other things we can do to help this along to create the culture, the atmosphere for Pierre Poliev, who by all accounts, folks, whether it's in six months or next year at the end of it when it's scheduled to be October, I believe. If he's going to be the next prime minister, what can we do to make sure 63 never gets in front of people?

And to me, that's like creating the winds of change. It's a big thing. Greg, you've been staring at this. What are some things people can do? Right. So with safefreespeech.ca, there's essentially two sides to what we're doing. Number one is the most urgent one, which is stopping Bill C-63. And we are building our resources out there.

Of course, you can go there. You can click on the action button. You can find out where your MP lives. And we kind of copy and paste a simple email for you to send to their email. That's a good start. In the future, though, I might try to encourage like, you know, phoning campaigns where people are actually phoning and clocking up the phone lines of their MPs, i.e., you know, free speech actually getting your voice heard. But along with that, we are building our resources to educate people on the actual bill.

So they have the resources to share with other people because people are going to ask what's actually in the bill. What's actually in the bill? So that's kind of our main priorities at the moment that we're going to get finished this fall, which is like all of the quintessential videos, short videos, easy to understand, explaining what's actually in the bill, why it's absolutely terrible and would be the end of free speech, why this has nothing to do with, you know, protecting kids online. So that's number one, having those resources there to stop this bill,

emailing your MP, having these videos, sharing these videos with other people, sharing it on your social media, getting people excited about it and, you know, talking about it and applying pressure to the Ottawa bubble. And to give, you know, to give people an idea, because there's a lot of other things that we're going to do outside of that. Once we have those resources done, we're going to start throwing all sorts of stuff at the wall, comedy videos, comedy shows, you know, letting everybody know about it. And like winning would be having one senator getting a video,

getting a short video into the inbox of one senator and that senator being like, oh, wow, this is actually, wow, I'm actually going to push back against this. Or winning would be having some American podcast or comedian sharing one of our videos on their feed, on their podcast. Now there's international attention on this of how embarrassing Bill C63 is. And that's going to take us building more resources, building more videos and building the community. And yeah, so that's number one. Number two of the sort of like undercurrent that's going to carry.

say free speech into the future is pushing back against the thought police pushing back against the political correctness because even if parliament dissolved in bill c63 i you know got destroyed which would be great there's still uh this organization called the canadian anti-hate network and there was also something that that got tabled recently of like this sort of like these people who are going to stop hate in Canada this is the equivalent of the institute our institutions uh our political institutions and other institutions. I would summarize it as hunting down right wingers. Like we are going to go find these right wingers who have the wrong opinions and we are going to hassle them, smear their reputation and on and on. We are creating a documentary that's well

underway that's exposing this entire network and system of political suppression. There's three kind of main categories. If you oppose the transgender, sorry, if you oppose like the gender ideology in schools. If you oppose the government, if you oppose multiculturalism or everything into do with that with mass migration, you get targeted in this country. If you're effective at talking about these things, at standing up for children against this gender ideology, if you're effective at championing Canadian identity and saying that it actually means something and that I think that this sort of multiculturalism is a threat to what it means to be Canadian, if you're effective at pushing these talking points, you get systematically attacked by institutions and NGOs

in Canada. People need to know about this. People need to know about how unfair this is, the people behind it being a bunch of crooks and liars and people who are unfair. This totally relates to why Jeremy McKenzie got thrown in jail. Also related to why the Coots guys were in jail for so long as well, believe it or not. Like there's a lot of dots here that are connected and we're making a documentary to share that with the world, not just Canada. I'm working with an award-winning filmmaker. It's going to be, you know, it's going to reach an audience in the U.S. as well. So it's not just stopping Bill C-63.

That's the most urgent, but we're also working on a documentary that's going to basically start to fight, push back against this obscene political correctness that so many conservatives are, you know, feeling the pressure under from not being able to speak out, just speak their minds. If people wanted to, if I understand anything about documentaries, it is that most people run out of money trying to get them off the ground. Are you doing, maybe you got billions of dollars. Maybe you're quietly somehow. We have a fundraiser. We have a fundraiser. Yeah, you can go to give sendgo.com slash save free speech. give sango.com slash save free speech. Also at savefree speech.ca, there's a donate button that links there. So once again, folks, I'll add the link to the show notes, savesfree speech.ca.

You can find everything there. Greg, appreciate you coming on this morning to talk about this. As things progress for you, we should stay in touch because to have you back on the side, keep people updated. Anytime someone is doing something that this largest scale, I think it needs to be kept in the forefront of people's thoughts, including mine, right? So when it comes to documentary making, I know squat, but certainly on connecting people and getting people together from across the country, I do have a skill on that.

So if, A, you finish the documentary, I want to let people know. And if there's things that we can do to help, I would love to be a part of that. So that being all said, thanks again for hopping on this morning and all the best here in the coming days, months. And we'll keep the people informed on what's going on on the other set of Canada. I appreciate you hopping on. Thanks so much, Sean. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you letting me on the platform.

And yeah, we will talk about that. There might be some people that I'm looking to interview that you've already talked to. So that might work out. Yeah. Well, if we can do anything to help with that, it's going to move the needle forward on Canadian culture and where we're at. I'll gladly help.