Shaun Newman Podcast - #722 - LTC Steven Murray

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:18 Finally, we have the November 29th, dueling pianos, Christmas party. I got six tables left. That's it. So if you're a company in Lloyd and you've been dragging your feet, November 29th, shoot me a text. It's at the casino, dueling pianos. It's going to be a fun, fun night, and I hope to see you there. So shoot me a text. All right, let's get on to that. Tail of the tape. He's a former information warfare officer and cyber defense battalion commander. He retired back in 2013. I'm talking about Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Murray. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Lieutenant Colonel Stephen.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Murray. So, sir, thank you for hopping on. Hey, I've been looking forward to it. So I really appreciate it. I'm happy to be here. Well, I was just saying, Tia, before we got going, you've, uh, it started when Alex Craneer and you had a talk. And I was like, uh, I got a sent to me because obviously, uh, on this end, um, Alex and and Tom Luongo come on. And, and, uh, so I got a lot of time for those gentlemen. And anyways, let me down this rabbit hole. listening to you and Mike quite a bit and enjoying it. So then I reached out to Alex and so I showed up to Alex for putting this together. And who knows in the future after we get through a bit of an origin, having, I like to have guys one-on-one
Starting point is 00:04:50 so that I can kind of dig into them and, of course, their thoughts on the world today. And then maybe we can have some, you know, roundtables in the future. Regardless, all that being said, Stephen, I don't know a whole heck a lot about you. And other than what I've been listening to, I would love it if you'd bring my audience up to speed on who you are, and we'll jump into it from there. Sure. I'm a retired Army officer. I retired in 2013.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I was an information warfare officer. My last assignment was in command of a cyber defense unit, and I supported the agencies. So you can assume what three-letter agencies I supported. I started cut my teeth in the Air Force, actually, as a space and missile officer and did missile operations for three years. And I went to a joint school and command of control warfare. And then I left the Air Force after that and went into the Army. And the Army branched being to armor. So if you can do the math on that one from space to armor, you're a lot smarter than I am. But I spent a couple of years with a armor battalion. It was actually one of the
Starting point is 00:05:57 best assignments I've ever had because I had a really good commander that taught me the ropes. And he was hard on me, but he taught me a lot about combat arms. He taught me a lot about the Army. He taught me a lot about being an officer. And it stuck with me the rest of my career. And I left there and joined in information warfare. It was called information operations in the Army, which is a really nondescriptive term for we're going to integrate psychological operations, computer operations, and
Starting point is 00:06:24 information operations all into one group. And we don't know what to call it. So we'll call it information operations. And that's how I, that's, that's. how I spent the rest of my career and I did a lot of tours in the Pacific, supported U.S. Pacific Command as well as Command in Korea. And you name it, any kind of a, you know, cyber event, we would be mobilized for it and activated for it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And, you know, in 2008, it was sent to Fort Belvoir to deal with a brush fire there and ended up spending two years out there and it was a it was a good assignment because when I left I you know I walked away from there and went into private sector I've been uh chief information security officer for a variety of companies now for the last 10 years and it's been a good ride so yeah here I am and I I started the the podcast I do because I do a Monday situation report I do a now I do a Wednesday one-on-one and then Thursdays I do a roundtable with other officers to enlisted And I started doing it at a request, believe or not, in 2020, a buddy of my call me when COVID kicked off and said, hey, how much of this stuff is real?
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I said, every bit of it is BS. It's all stuff we used in Iraq, in 2004, and 03 that they just repackaged. And then it took off from there. And here I am. If you don't mind enlightening me and the audience, when you say you did it in 0304 in Iraq, what do you mean by that, right? Because obviously you didn't walk in with COVID and go, hey, Iraqis, you got COVID, and off it went. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:08:07 It was the similar training exercise, I guess. Well, it's similar. It was basically the same messaging they used when we went into Iraq in the first time, right? We're not conquerors. We're liberators. We're here to spread freedom. We want you to have your own government. We want you to have your own freedom.
Starting point is 00:08:25 You should trust that we're here to help, you know, trust the science, trust we're here to help, trust Americans, you know, that's the same, same language, same messaging, just different format. And when I got there in 2004, we had just in the transition to the coalition provisional authority, which is essentially a handoff to civilians, which the same messaging applied there. You know, trust your civilian authorities. They were, they're picked by Iraqis. and, you know, they're the experts. They know how to govern.
Starting point is 00:08:57 They're going to teach you how to govern. They're going to lead you through this. It's all the same thing. It's exactly the same messaging they use. Trust the science. Trust the experts. We're going to lead you through this. Two weeks to slow the spread.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's all the same messaging. It's just a different format. And you can pick it out. If you've done it enough, you see it, like you go to a movie, right? Here's a perfect example. You go to a movie. You see entertainment. I see themes and messages.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I see narratives. I see different talking points. And to give you a really precise instance of that, go watch season three or season four of the rookie. It's a TV show with Nathan Philean. Literally every scene has a liberal talking point in it, whether it's defund the police, whether it's women's reproductive rights, whether it's immigration. It's all in one episode. You can see it every episode. And everything that we see, most people don't realize that everything we see is laced with narratives, laced with talking points, laced with these, these, you know, subversive tones. And you don't even, most people don't even pick it out. But if you've seen it up like I have, you just, you can't even watch a movie without going, okay, that's an era. That's an era.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So hopefully that helps. But. Oh, it certainly does. I, I used to love going to the movies, like loved it. and you know young kids will certainly slow anyone down but it's pretty hard to walk into a movies these days or a TV show for that matter and not see like what you're talking about it's like because once you see you're like oh man why they have to bring that in right like why can't you just you know but once again um you know movies are are pushing different agendas as well
Starting point is 00:10:45 and i guess i'm kind of curious you know we sit as we record this 31 days away from the us election. You're a guy who's, who's, you know, background, I think, is to look at the tea leaves and go, you know, I got a different military vet who was fought for the Canadians in Afghanistan, and he talks about the patterns of life, patterns of war. And I, I wonder, you know, with 31 days before the election, what are the patterns or the, you know, the narrative or, you know, the information you're seeing and what does it add up to? So I'll just say it this way. If we make it to the election, I'll be surprised because they've ramped up, they've ramped up the messaging.
Starting point is 00:11:34 They've ramped up the rhetoric. And I want to go back a bit before I talk about it. So in 2016, the narrative that they started in 2016 was that Orange Man's Bad and everybody else is good. And that was a highly effective campaign, highly effective. Because you have a population now that is divided to the point where people will not vote for Trump, regardless of what he brings to the table, because they've been conditioned to hate the man regardless of whatever he does. And there are people that are so ardent in their hatred of the guy that they would rather vote for a communist than vote for Trump. That is the result of a very highly effective information operations campaign that was conducted over four years. So you have that at play right now.
Starting point is 00:12:26 The other thing you have at play is that you have an election process that is completely compromised. And I'll go back to 2020. A lot of people talk about 2020 as they stole the presidential election. That was not what 2020 was about. 2020 was about the down ballot. They wanted to take the down ballot and the swing states so that they could control the swing states, swing states, and turn them blue. And that was what the election was about. They got greedy and they took the presidential election.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And I think it's because the elite in D.C. as well as the oligarchs on the East Coast did not want Trump in power. And they didn't care how much malfeasance was on display. Fast forward to 22. 22 was about taking the state legislatures in the swing states that were up. And that's exactly what they did. If you look at the Kerry Lake situation, and I covered this for two years on my show, because I had a team of intel guys that were working with me, and we were breaking down all the ways that they cheated.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Fast forward. From 2022 on, they have institutionalized the cheating across all of the swing states. So now you're never going to get a fair election. In addition to that, they've increased the rhetoric around the fact that Trump's cheating and that Trump's going to stuff ballots. Everything that they're doing, they're basically blaming on Trump, which is a standard communist doctrine. At the same time, they're doing that, they're messaging that Trump is a Nazi. He's going to put people in prison. He's going to roll people up, which is exactly what they're going to do because that's what communists do.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So they've set conditions so that you cannot get to an election where anybody's going to buy the results. So even if we do get to election day, people do vote. There is going to be violence. There is going to be civil unrest no matter who is declared the winner. And let's make no mistake. They are going to install Harris into the office. What they are trying to do right now is they're trying to message and they're trying to influence the population through influencing operations. And just go watch TV right now.
Starting point is 00:14:34 All you have to do is watch five minutes of TV every other ad. is about Harris, about women's reproductive rights, about what Trump's going to do and how Trump's terrible. It's literally nonstop. They've set conditions now to where even if Trump is anointed as the winner, they will ramp up the rhetoric. They will unleash the illegals that they brought in and there will be civil unrest no matter what. So they're going to, they've created the perfect storm. And the perfect storm is even if we get there, which I don't think we will, I think there's going to be an event before then that's a kinetic event probably Sunday because october 5th trump and elon musk are going back to pennsylvania prime opportunity for yet another attack
Starting point is 00:15:21 and then at the same time mondays october 7th the anniversary of the gaza situation october 8th is mohammed's birthday so you can pick any one of those dates and it's a prime opportunity for some kind of an event to happen and uh i've had several conversations with other officers. Everybody sees the same thing I do. Something big is coming. And we can't decide if it's before or after the election. And so either way, even if we do get to the election, there's going to be civil arrest after. If we don't get to the election, there's going to be civil arrest before, civil unrest. And if you look at what's going on in North Carolina right now, that is a razor's edge away from going kinetic because you have residents that are basically being
Starting point is 00:16:05 ignored by FEMA and by DHS and the gaslighting the public it's a tinderbox and they've created a tinderbox on purpose because they want a civil war that was the whole point of the messaging about trump in the first place was never about Trump himself it was about killing the movement that he created and killing the mega movement and creating conditions and setting conditions for a civil war and thus far the american people haven't bought into it and you can you can you can can project a number of different reasons for that. But at the end of the day, most people are waiting for that spark. And it's just a matter of time.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I know it's a long answer for a short question, but there's a lot to unpack there. It's not just a simple answer of X is going to happen. It's not a linear. This is not a linear equation. There is going to be a number of inputs that go into this. And the other thing I want to put on the table too that most people don't realize is, there's a there's a certain percentage of the population that is blissfully unaware that anything is wrong and i know
Starting point is 00:17:12 you have that in canada right oh yes yeah like as long as hockey's good we're good as long as football's good we're good and that's that's about a third of the population then you have another third that's in the middle that knows something's wrong but they don't have a source of truth which is the other part of this equation they've architected the system so that the there's no there's no source of truth anywhere that's that's pushing out real information on a wide scale so you have the news media outlets and the legacy news media outlets and legacy social media are all pushing garbage so the system's flooded with misinformation and disinformation right now so nobody knows what to believe how that's worked against the elite and why i'm why i'm talking about
Starting point is 00:17:58 this is that in order to influence a population you have to control the cultural narrative It's not just the social narrative, right? You have the social dynamics in a culture where they interact a certain way. And in our culture, socially, there is definitive strata across our society. And then there's also a cultural narrative, right? Our cultural narrative is we're Americans, we're special. We are the chosen ones, et cetera, et cetera. We're a great country.
Starting point is 00:18:27 We're patriotic. There's apple pie, baseball apple pie, that whole thing, right? That's our cultural narrative. Then on top of that, you have the social narrative, which is where the innovators, we paved the way where the fashion, you know, we're the fashion experts, where the aviation experts, you choose your flavor from social, right? And we interact on a social level based on technology. So they lost control of the cultural narrative the moment that Donald Trump said, fake news. It sent shockwaves through the entire media establishment. as well as social media. And people don't realize why that was such a huge impact on our culture. It was a huge impact because what he did at one moment was pronounced the mainstream media dead. And he pronounced social media dead.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And his use of Twitter during the 2016 campaign was nothing short of brilliant. He turned the information tables on the establishment and did exactly what they were doing. But he did it and he got them to pivot off of him. So he took the initiative away from them in 2016. He never gave it back. Even through the censorship, being deplatformed, you pick your flavor. They tried everything to take the cultural narrative away from him. And it's only good, the gaps only gotten wider and wider and wider.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So you have a situation now where you have an entire establishment that doesn't know how to connect with the population and sell what they want to sell. meaning they can't sell Harris, they can't sell Tim Walts, they can't sell the agenda, they can't sell the Green New Deal, they can't sell any of the other austerity measures that they want to put in place, and they definitively can't sell trust across the government. So now you have a situation where you have a divided population, you have a population on both sides that doesn't trust the government in any way, shape, or form. They don't trust the media, and they have no respect for politicians. it's the perfect storm for civil unrest. Now, the question is, is it going to be a revolution or is it going to be a civil war? And I would propose to you that when some of the allegations come out, not just allegations, but when some of the information comes out about what the elite have been doing to children,
Starting point is 00:20:50 via P. Diddy, via Epstein, people are going to have a whole different view of these people in power. And that's what they are deathly afraid of. That to me is why they've, they've amped up the timeline and they move the timeline to the left, and they're rushing to get to a culmination point and consolidate power. And I think that that is going to hit the law of unintended consequences in a very short order, and it is going to cause chaos, and they will lose control. And when they lose control, you will see the population across this planet come together. Because here's the unspoken thing in the room.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And part of the Didia revelations, has shed light on this. And that is every major politician, every major star, every music industry person has been to one of his parties. And his parties were all about sex with underage kids. And so it's just a matter of time
Starting point is 00:21:46 before the tapes are released. At least that's how I see it playing out. And that to me is why they're rushing because they know some of these disclosures are coming. And what I see at the higher levels, because again, let's talk about strata. You have strata in the social settings, right? You've got the old institutional money that's on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You got the New York Strata. Then you have the West Coast strata with the Tech Bros. Then you have the old East Coast, you know, strata that's been there forever and ever and ever. So you have these layers of strata across the society. All of those layers have been compromised in one way, shape, or form by this pedophilia thing. and it's starting to come out more and more and more. And I think that that in and of itself will be there in doing because at some point that the doomsday tapes are going to come out, meaning the stuff that they've really done, the evil stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And I think they know what's coming and they're worried about how it comes out. Because look at just in the last week, it's come out that Barack Obama went to several parties, several of deadies parties. I mean, if you would have been back in 2015 or 2014, that would have been buried. we would have never heard about it. But since the Epstein, you know, the Epstein's death and now these new allegations against Dedy, you're seeing more and more information about these child trafficking rings coming out, and there's more and more information about some of the senior level people in our society
Starting point is 00:23:12 that were a part of that. Like, Epstein wasn't the only island. Everybody thinks that Epstein ran the only island. There are other islands across this planet, and those are all starting to come to the light. And I think when people find out just how big this operation is, I think they will. And the guy who's done a really good job identifying all this is Ian Carroll. He's done yeoman's work along with Whitney Webb. They've done, yeah, Whitney Webb is that who do?
Starting point is 00:23:40 I can't think of him. Whitney Webb's one of them. Ian Carroll's another. Yeah, they've done yeoman's work. And where Whitney's, the gap between Whitney and Ian is, Whitney doesn't do a really good job of distilling it up to the high level. whereas Ian starts at the high level, works his way down to the weeds. So it gives people a complete picture about how it all fits together. Whereas Whitney will show you all the pieces, but she doesn't really tie it all together.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And that was the missing piece. When you start to look at these bigger organizations and how incestuous it is and how it's built together into this web, you start to realize that we can't reform the system we're in. And Trump is all but said that, right? And look, I'm not a Trump guy. I cannot stand the way the guy talks. I hate everybody on his staff. I think he's surrounded by morons. He's a terrible judge of character.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But, you know, he was the only guy that stood up and said the quiet part out loud. And that is the establishment has broken the social contract. And that social contract is that they go off and live their life of opulence. They make money and they profit from their service. But at the end of the day, they make decisions that are good for the American people. Then that contract was broken under George Bush 1 and it's just gotten worse and worse and worse since then. You can go all the way back to JFK and say that the contract was broken back then.
Starting point is 00:25:07 All those arguments apply. But the point is they've broken the social contract to the point. And now there's so much malfeasance that you can't reform this system. It has to burn to the ground and we have to rebuild it. That's where we are. And, you know, if you listen to Martin Armstrong, he's saying, that this could be the last election. I would propose to you that this is not only the last election, this is the last election of the old system, and we will enter a new system after there's a
Starting point is 00:25:34 revolution. And the revolution or insurgency, whatever you want to call it, has already started. It's just it hasn't gone kinetic yet. And that's where we are. I know that, you know, I started off talking about election, but there's a lot, like I said, there's a lot to unpack here. Well, it's funny, I go back to, it was Martin two or three episodes ago, two, three times ago when I had him on. I was asking him, and I'm going to ask you a similar question, right? Is, you know, Martin, what sets us off? And he was like, who knows, you know, like somebody falls down the stairs could set it off at this point. It's a, it's a Tinderbox waiting to go off.
Starting point is 00:26:13 He's like, and when you get to this stage, you know, it doesn't have to be this serious event. to all of a sudden everything just explodes. You know, you point out North Carolina and everything happening there. You know, when you look at this, you're pointing out to the next couple of days. It's this weird thing sitting on this side, podcasting five days a week, talking to people all the time. It's like, I don't know how to explain it, Stephen. It's like I get this like sense that something bad, you know, like it's almost like it's palpable.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I can't figure it out. It could be nothing. Maybe it's just, you know, something in the area or whatever. But it feels like there's something going on. I can't put my finger on it. But I look at you and I go back to what Martin said about like, who knows what sets it off. You're looking at the next couple days going like, well, if there was ever a time, all the cards line up for these few days because of where it sits on the calendar and all the things associated with those days. Is there anything else you're like, hey, if you're sitting around and, you know, because we got.
Starting point is 00:27:18 You've got people all across Canada listeners. You got people on the States list on this. Is there, I don't know. Like when I hear that, I'm like, I want to unpack that as much as I can. I want to give people as much information as humanly possible. So let's start with, let's start with the dates. Okay. So I'm going to go down a rabbit hole a little bit, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And it's factual. So the enemy we're facing and the enemy that's, and because this is planetary. This is not just the U.S. I say this all the time on my show. And it's, I don't know if you found that if you find this as much as I do, but I repeat myself a lot because I could do a show and talk about, you know, being prepared. And I get it literally as soon as the show is done, somebody sends me a message, hey, could you do a show and just talk about preparedness? So I've repeated this 100 times. But here's the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:28:14 This is planetary. This is not happening just in the U.S. this is going on across the planet. They replaced the leader, Bolsonaro, in Brazil with a communist. They replaced the president in Mexico with a communist. They are slowly going through installing dictators or middle managers across the planet. America is the backstop of the world. We're it because we're the only people that are truly armed.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So if we fall, so does the rest of the planet. So you only have two choices in this fight. Choice one is you quietly march into a gas chamber or a concentration camp and you wait to die. Choice two is you be completely ungovernable. You potentially lose your life and you fight to preserve our way of life and liberate the planet. That's it. Those are your choices. You can piss and moan about it.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You can cry about it. But at the end of the day, those are the choices that are going to be in front of you at some point. because they've created and they've architected multiple lines of operation all coming to a culmination point. So how do they do that? First of all, everything the elite that we're facing, because we're facing oligarchs, these are guys like Bill Gates, Michael Bloomberg, that whole crowd, right? These are very rich people, institutional money. and they have used the satanic calendar and astrological charts to plan all of their events.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I know that sounds crazy, but it's true. It doesn't sound crazy. You break the code on that, and that's the equivalent of the JM25 codes that we broke at the start of World War II, which helped us win in the Battle of Midway. We haven't, we are, as conservatives, this is our Achilles heels. Our Achilles heel as conservatives is that most of the time, religious, religion gets in the way of us trying to understand the enemy. And that is, most people look at the astrology and numerology and they think, well, it's satanic.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I shouldn't look at that. But the reality is, if we want to win against this enemy, somebody, because it's not me, I can't figure it out, right? I have a numerologist that's a very good friend of mine. She tries to explain it to me all the time. I don't get it. I can't do the math on it. It doesn't compute for me.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And there's a lot of people that see the same thing. But if you understand numerology and how they use it. the astrological calendar and how they use and pick different dates according to the satanic calendar you will be able to pick out certain days October 7th is one of those days where it's high energy on both the positive side and on the negative side and if you're if you're using that and you leverage that you can see how that's a pretty pivotal day for both sides and again most people don't they don't understand it they don't want to understand it they don't take any time to understand it because they think the understanding is believing and those are two different things that's
Starting point is 00:31:08 part of the problem that's the first problem the second problem is as conservatives the thing that we don't do that the liberal side of the house does do is they do public service we don't do public service we go run a business we take care of our family we go to church we live our lives right that's always been our Achilles Hill. That's how they've been able to infiltrate all of these different institutions, all of the different, you know, key positions throughout government. Because we don't do those that, we don't do that type, that kind of work. It's been our problem from day one. They know that. They leverage that. So you have those two things at play. But the bigger side of that is, is that I feel something big is coming along with a lot of my
Starting point is 00:31:53 associates, we all think something's big as coming. I'm having a talk. Can you tell I've been on, you know, conference calls since 5 a.m. this morning. We all see something. And I just hop in real fast. A, don't worry about it. Two, really appreciate you giving me time today because we snuck this in on a long day on my side as well. But I see the importance of it. So please carry on.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So everybody, a lot of military guys, see something big coming and i'll and i'll and there's two reasons why i say that the first one is all these numbers that they're they're telling the public about the number of illegals they've moved into the u.s and into canada are fiction they've we figured out so michael yon is uh i talked to michael yon almost every day right he's been in the daring gap watching the numbers and watching the the flow of illegals coming through and we estimate there's between 35 and 42 million military age males in this country. You don't marshal those kind of forces into an area unless you're going to conduct some
Starting point is 00:33:02 kind of kinetic activity. And they've brought in conaxes, sorry, they brought in shipping containers full of weapons. They've placed them throughout the U.S. And people seem to think that the big cities are going to be where this kicks off. I disagree completely. I think that they're going to go after rural areas, specifically red areas, and they are going to conduct some kind of a mass. attack I would assume it's going to be on October 7th but who really knows what day
Starting point is 00:33:28 they could pick a day and that ideally the fifth would be perfect because conservatives go to church on Sunday they could go to a church and they could go to several churches across the country especially some of the big mega churches and do mass casualty events it's not the event that I'm worried about it's the aftermath and what these what these lunatics of Washington are going to try and do after that because if you look at this from the perspective of how the Nazi party did this and played this game, you see a lot of similarities. One of those is if they could create an event, which don't for one second think that this is Iran or this is Syria or this is some other, you know, Hezbollah
Starting point is 00:34:12 that's conducting this attack. This attack, if it happens when I think it's going to happen, was planned, orchestrated, and facilitated by both the CIA and the FBI, because those guys know who comes in the country and who doesn't. And you can't tell me that they don't know that all these special forces from all these different countries are not in this country. They know that for sure. And I can say that from experience of knowing and watching terrorist cells. I know that game.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So this is being facilitated by our own government so that they can, in my premise, is so they can declare martial law, suspend the Second Amendment, suspend the First Amendment, and then install somebody as the president, e.g. Harris. That's how I see it going. I don't see this, I don't see us getting to Election Day because they don't want to, they don't want to hedge their bet and have this go sideways after or on the election day where they can't certify the election or they can't declare a winner. And it may happen that way anyway, but I, with, the disposition of forces right now, with the situation that's been escalated in the Middle East, with the rhetoric that's coming out of the regime, with the things I'm seeing on social media,
Starting point is 00:35:29 with the attacks on the infrastructure in our country, with the logistical issues that we're having now. And then on top of that, with all these weird, freakish storms like the storm in North Carolina, which was not a natural hurricane. I don't know if you've ever studied how hurricanes operate, that literally went on a straight line. That's not how hurricanes operate in the real world. So whatever technology they used to make that happen was a planned event. And if you look at their response to it, you can definitively see that that was a planned event because they withheld aid prior to, they moved units, military units out of those areas and shipped them overseas prior to the event. They knew this was coming. They knew that area was going to get hit.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So when you start looking at all these indicators, you see that they're setting conditions for something big to happen and they're consolidating power. It's no coincidence that the Soros group just purchased 200 more radio stations across the U.S. So that to me tells you, it says very, very clearly that they're expecting the Internet to go down. They're expecting comms to go down, cell phones to go down, and they're going to rely on radio. and they have complete control of the radio waves. So think about it from that perspective. You can see it's very easy to see that something's being planned and something's going to be executed. Whether that's just here in the U.S. or in Canada, that's the question of the day.
Starting point is 00:36:54 But I would think it would be small units that are hitting venues with lots of congregated people, lots of access and entry points where they can move around and conduct operations and then exfiltrate the area before any kind of response is mounted. very easy to see that. So there is a lot of opportunity for them to do a lot of damage in a very short period of time. And I don't think it's going to be trains or infrastructure. I think it's going to be everything at once. And I've heard this conversation about EMP and cyber attack. What's to say they don't do a cyber attack at the same time they take down critical infrastructure?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Because of the Verizon situation last week, which took down most of the West Coast, they took down key, they took power offline for key nodes in the cell network and look at what it did. Look at how much confusion it created just with one day. Now, imagine they take down key infrastructure for power that takes down entire grids. Then they conduct attacks in a bunch of local townships. And then on top of that, they take down rail lines. They take down communication stations and they take down internet hubs. They don't need to blow them up to take them down.
Starting point is 00:38:08 just take the power away cut some power line or cut some uh some transmission lines and guess what nothing's going out of that data center so there's lots of ways they can go after us without having to blow a bunch of infrastructure up which they don't want to do anyway so i see a lot of different opportunities here for them to do to create chaos and if you look back at covid and then you look at just this week when the longshoremen went on strike what did everybody do they rushed to Costco to get a bunch of supplies. And imagine what it would be like if nothing's moving because the country shut down again and people are starting to run out of resources. So you can see how they've created a perfect storm for social disorder and chaos because it's already happening in North Carolina, right?
Starting point is 00:38:55 When people are desperate, they do desperate things. And it's not going to take long for us to be in a desperate situation if they shut down the logistics across this country, which is very easy to do along with the airlines. I don't even know what to say to that. I'm like, I mean, you know, like over the last week, maybe longer than that, I'm just thinking back folks to when I had Chuck Prodnick on and he's a guy who's served in four tours overseas and we talk a, you know, he gets talking about, you know, patterns war, patterns life. And he was talking about, you know, just how quickly it happens, right? Just how quick it can just go kinetic. And, you know, you've, you've listened to the Tom and Alex episodes.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And so like when I go back to when Trump got shot, it was just like a surreal moment for me, right? Because you sit on this side and I go, you could be full of shit, folks. Right? It could be. And yet, but then Trump got shot. And me and Tom and Alex have been talking about that for like a year.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Like I just on and off a year. So it happens right in front of you. I've been talking about it for a year too. We knew, everybody knew it was coming. Everybody. So you go, you sit there and you go, Okay. So what am I supposed to do with the information you just laid out not only on me, but the audience? What, what do you take from what you just said, Stephen, and where do you go
Starting point is 00:40:19 with it? Other than, sure. Here's what you do with it. So my point of saying all that was not to black pill anybody. My point of saying this is we're at a culmination point in our society. Western society has hit a culmination point, much like the Romans did. The way that we're going to get out of this is two twofold first of all if this is going to go to the community level if it goes the way i think it's going to go it's going to start in the community level and then it's going to work its way out because they're architecting a famine across the planet so they can control the food supply so they can control logistics so they can control air travel i mean go to an airport all the airports now have man traps to leave the airport why do you need man traps to leave a gate that you got
Starting point is 00:41:09 off the plane. The high risk part of the flight's already over. Flying, right? So they don't need that, but all the airports in the U.S. are being set up like they are in China to install a social scoring system. And most people are blissfully unaware. I mean, they just don't care. But, and they're doing the same thing in grocery stores. The gates, when you walk into a grocery store, the only thing missing is a QR code reader. If you look at Sri Lanka, what did they do in Sri Lanka? They ran them out of food, they ran them out of energy, and they ran them out of water. And then they ran off the leadership and stalled somebody new. What was the first thing they did?
Starting point is 00:41:44 They issued QR codes so people could get eight. That's exactly what they're trying to do here. So when you see the end game, you start to realize that the bigger piece of this is the one piece that they don't want to happen. And that is for us to come together at the community level, The most important thing people can be doing right now across this planet, not just in the U.S., is make human connections. Put your phone down, put your social media down, and go talk to your neighbors and make human connections. I call it sphere of influence, right?
Starting point is 00:42:22 All of us have a close group of friends that we can trust that we know when the chips are down, they're going to be by our side. I have a very, very small group that's very, that's very tight knit. And I know that if I pick up a phone and I say to one of my buddies, hey, I need you here, he and his family are on the way. It's not even a question. It's just go time. Everybody needs to have that group of friends around them. Everybody needs to build a community outside of that to where you have a community of people
Starting point is 00:42:52 you can work with when everything falls apart. you can barter, you can trade, you can help each other out, you can share resources. Because if they have their way, they're going to take everybody across the planet to a place where it's a third world country and we have to work our way back to some kind of organization. We should be organizing now at the community level. And I've talked to several groups across this country in the last three years. And I can tell you that there are groups right now across the country that are organizing so that if the power goes out or there's EMP, they've got a plan in place.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And most people don't even think about that, right? Because what are they wrapped up in? They're wrapped up in pro sports. They're wrapped up in music. They're wrapped up in pop culture. None of that's going to matter when you're starving. What's going to matter is, do you have somebody in your group that knows how to grow things? Do you know how, do you have somebody in your group that knows how to do medical care and to
Starting point is 00:43:49 do medical treatments? Do you have somebody that knows how to work on stuff? a mechanic, somebody that can fix things, a plumber, you know, all of those trades, those trades are going to be the most important skills on the planet in a very short period of time. And most people, let's face it, if you live in a big city, most people don't know how to do anything, let alone how to fix anything. And all of those skills are going to be very, very important. And even if they slow roll this, which is what they wanted to do is slow roll us right into the social scoring system through COVID, which is not a possibility now.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Even if they do that, there's still going to be a portion of the population that doesn't sign up for. Nobody needs to sign up for. And people need to realize that the social scoring system, if you sign up for one part of it, you're signed up for all of it. Guys like me, I'm already in the system. The military's got a dossier. The FBI's got a dossier.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I know the CIA does. So I'm already in the system. They already know who I am. They're probably at some point going to roll me up because I'm, you know, considered a leader of the insurgency. So be it. But the point is, at the community level, you're going to be stronger in numbers. And look, let's call spay to spay.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We're going to come out of this, both Canadian and America, we're going to come out of this as stronger countries. We may be a single country by the time this is over. But at the end of the day, this is going to be the community level. So the more ties and the stronger you can make your. community and build your community right now, the better off you're going to be when things go sideways. And that is the most important thing that people should be doing right now. All this noise at the national level, it's just noise. You can't do anything about it. You can't change it. You can't
Starting point is 00:45:33 influence. You can't stop it. It's got to go its course. So the thing you can control is what happens around you in your sphere of influence. And the more people you have in your network, the more line of sight you're going to have outside of your community and the more ability you're going to have to to communicate and to see and to influence operations around you. So in addition to building community relationships, you should have a couple weeks worth of food, a couple weeks worth of water. You should have alternate comms and you should have some weapons and some barter material.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And do what you can afford. Most people think, well, I got to have a bunker. I got to have all this food. You can't, you can't store enough food. You can't store enough water. And ammo is really heavy. So just so you know, you can't carry all that stuff. So moderation is important.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Be realistic, right? But learn how to grow stuff. Learn how to cultivate friendships. Learn how to, you know, go learn a skill. I, you know, I go back to Tom Luongo, telling me not in so many words what you're saying, roughly, I don't know, what was that, a year ago, that's what he came to.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Everybody comes back to you're going to need community. like you need community. I just look at what you're talking about is if the next four days don't happen the way you're talking about, let's just say it doesn't. I hope it doesn't. And I agree. I hope it doesn't too.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But if it doesn't happen that way, then you go, okay, everything you just said, that's what you got to work on. You got to work on community. You got to work on all these things. And, you know, I think a lot of people are doing those things.
Starting point is 00:47:12 but if in the next 72 hours or whatever 96 hours things play out differently people are even going to have time to listen to us they're going to you know like and i sit here and i'm like what are i supposed to do with this information you know like i'm like i'm sitting here going you know Tony dungee to bring in some pro sports used to say you don't rise to the occasion you fall back to your level of preparedness right your preparation And right now, I'm prepared 100% of the time. That's right. So you look at this right now and you go, if what plays out is what you're saying, people are going to have to fall back onto where they are at currently. Because you're not running out on Monday if all hell's breaking loose to get more food.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Because you just pointed out like the grocery store is insane and it'll be an insane place. You know, truck prodig would be the first say that. He's a guy who tells me, don't drive around with a half tank, a fuel, the first place they're going to grab you is going to be at the gas station because it's going to be insane. And so you go like, there are little things that give you a leg up on it. And if this were to drop in the time frame we're talking, you're going to fall back to where you're at right now. You're not going to all of a sudden go out and do 17 things in the next 24 hours because you, you know, time is against you. Everything's against you. Yep. And so, hmm, that's, it's a lot,
Starting point is 00:48:40 Stephen, honestly, I'm like, it's not blackpilling me. It's putting together a whole bunch of things that, you know, like I've been thinking about and hearing about and talking about. And I just didn't have the date. You know, I wish I would have known October. There's just dates that are out there, right? Because I've heard like 15 dates already. And the three I keep hearing is the fifth, the seventh, the seventh, the seventh and the eighth, those are the three I keep hearing. And, you know, I read the tea leaves here, right? I'm looking at it's what I'm, but that's what I'm asking you to do, right? That's what I asked Tom and Alex to do. That's what I asked Chuck to do. But I, the thing that people need to realize is the most important thing to have on hand is water. Because water, well, you can't live without water.
Starting point is 00:49:32 You can't live without food for a long time, but you can't live without water. You got about three days without water and then you're done. And that's the easiest thing. we can all do we can go to you can go to the store and get some five gallon containers and you can have 20 or 30 gallons of water on hand right now and not break a sweat and water lasts about two years two and a half years and it doesn't go bad it just gets contaminants from the surrounding area so if you don't store it around you know toxic chemicals and gasoline everything else your water will last two three years and you know having some some purification tabs doesn't hurt but you don't need them and that's the first thing you can do
Starting point is 00:50:07 right now and it's not it's the it's the least expensive right most people have a couple of days worth of food their house okay so just go when you go to the store get an extra couple of cans every time you go to the store now right and you'll have a couple of weeks worth of food it's little things like that to knock a you know you don't need to go to go to Costco and get the flat carts and fill it up to the ceiling and take a bunch of crap home that's that yeah that'll be great but at some point it's it's not going to be it's going to be more detrimental than it is beneficial It's like think through some of this stuff and be judicial about it. Like filling your tank right now, so you have a full tank of gas in at least one of your vehicles in your driveway, that's always a good thing to have, right?
Starting point is 00:50:49 Have an alternative communications like radios or satellite communications. That's good to have, but not everybody can afford that. So start with the simple stuff, food, water, the basics, and then work your way out from there. You don't have to have tons of it on hand. You just have to have enough to get you through. And most people don't realize that, you know, most, most of us have never had to think in this, this capacity. And I routinely reference a book on my show all the time. It's the book's called Deep Survival by Lawrence Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It is, it's worth the read because he talks about how people survive deep survival situations. And it doesn't have a recipe or a checklist of things to do. do. It's all about your mindset. It's all about solving problems and remaining calm and grounded in stressful situations. And that's the first step in all of this, right? Is accepting the situation you're in and then making decisions from there. So let's say we are two days away from this. You can still make some good decisions right now to get you through the worst part of this. And that's the whole point of it. And, you know, my team and I, we talk routinely about preparedness. We've been doing it for almost a year now.
Starting point is 00:52:07 We talk generators. We talk water systems. We talk all that. But we always come back to the same thing. Like, we get routinely questioned about bugout bags. I should have a bugout bag. Let's have bug out stuff. Well, look at North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Those people didn't have a chance to bug out. Some of them didn't have a chance to bug out because they didn't realize the storm was coming their way. And number two, all their stuff got washed away. So the other thing. thing you can do right now is if you have a place where you know that you might have to displace to, go preposition some supplies there that you can fall in on. That's the other thing you can be doing. Because there are going to be people who are prepared, but they're not thinking, what if I have to displace? So you can be doing multiple things right now that are small that will give you
Starting point is 00:52:56 a lot of mileage on the other side. And that's the stuff to be thinking about. Think strategically, don't think tactically. And the other thing is, we don't know how this is going to develop. So it could go 100 different directions very, very quickly. I seem to think that if the attack doesn't happen, at some point, the public will snap. And it will be a free for all against the politicians because the political class has completely sealed their fate. If you look at how the political class is talking to and treating Americans, it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. They have openly said, like Lindsay Graham today was on, or last night was on Sean Hannity saying, yeah, it's terrible what's going on in North Carolina and South Carolina, but we need to fund Israel right now.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Like, are you kidding me? You just disenfranchised all of your base and most importantly, the base from the area, you have to go live in. That's not going to work out well for him. So that could be a powder cake too, which I think it will be. And the same goes for news people. You know, journalists are now political. activists, they are not journalists anymore. And it's only going to be a matter of time before people are going to start looking for retribution. And it's, I hate to say it, but every time a society collapses, the political class and the journalistic class, they're the ones that take the brunt of it first. And that's, that's the other possibility for how it'll develop. So. And, uh, it's, you know, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:54:31 When I listen to you and Mike, I'm like, I'm listening. I'm like, oh man, this is something, but sitting here. And in fairness, I've been talking about this offline now and a bit online for about the last. It's probably been more than a week. But, you know, like everybody I listened to, including yourself and Mike talking about these things, among others, is like, you know, is this the most dangerous time you've ever lived through in the United States and Canada? Or maybe the world. We can go further than that, if you like.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I think this is the most dangerous time in human history because the destructive capability of the weapon systems we have now outpaces anything that we've ever had in history. And that's the history we know of. Let me just stop there. I mean, there could have been civilizations before us that were just as advanced. But because we can split the atom,
Starting point is 00:55:23 that raises the stakes exponentially. And as much as I don't think anybody wants to use the bomb that that could potentially be the worst case scenario i don't think it'll get to that i really don't because i i think what's going to happen is i think that there let me just say it this way every fiber in my beam says that we are going to come out of this a stronger nation a stronger let's just say humanity's going to be stronger after this because i think what's going to happen is we're going to go through a turbulent period, but we're going to throw off the shackles of the greed-based system that has controlled this planet for generations. And all these mental managers and tyrannical leaders
Starting point is 00:56:10 are going to be gone. And we're going to come up with a new form of government, a new system to operate and a new way to interact as humans. And I think we are going to be better off on the other side. Because I don't see, I look at the situation, I don't see doom and gloom. I see a rough patch where we're in a transition and we're transitioning away from this, this greed-based system that's destroyed the planet, and we move to a system where humans work together. Because if you distill out all the BS and all the politics and all of the brainwashing, what you get down to is everybody wants the same thing. Most people want, they want to be able to go to work, they want to raise their family, they want to, they want to live their life, and they want to be left alone. That's universal
Starting point is 00:56:56 across the planet that is not unique to america or canada or mexico that's universal i saw that on the ground in iraq in fact i had lunch with an iraqi general um in august of o four and i remember saying to him you what do you what do you like about america he goes america's just like us he goes i want to sit in my house when i'm not working i want to be able to enjoy my family and my my grandkids and my children and I don't want to be bothered by the government. I don't want to be bothered by politics. I just want to live my life. And America is exactly the same. I'm like, that's probably the one of the most profound things I've ever heard. And this is a guy that's drinking tight, shy tea. We're in sandals. Who'd have thought? But I think that's where we're going to be on the
Starting point is 00:57:48 other side of this. I don't get a sense that the world's going to end. I don't get a sense that we're, you know, there's going to be this major cataclysm. I think that the, law of unattended consequences are going to slap these people in the face and humanity is going to figure out what's really been going on. And then the challenge for us on the other side of this is not going to be to work together. The challenge is going to be to go back through our history and figure out where humanity was steered and lied to about our history and figuring out what really happened throughout our history. Because so much of where we are right now is because of the lies and the obfuscations of history that have led us here. And we can't allow that to
Starting point is 00:58:30 continue as a society. We have to have an accurate historical record of how we got here so we can make sure it never happens again. And I think that's going to happen on the other side of this. But the system has to fail in order for us to build something new and something better. And that's what we're watching. We're watching the erosion and the decline of a civilization that needs to die, frankly and that's where we are I'm not scared of it because it is what it is right and I think it's a great time to be alive because we are going to be the architects of what follows and we're all going to have the opportunity to architect something way better to where a few of really really rich affluent
Starting point is 00:59:09 people don't control the planet this will be where humanity can can have a voice or real voice across the planet and for the first time in human history we'll be able to see multiple cultures celebrating the differences between those cultures versus this this adversarial relationship that's been created by the elite to keep us all busy fighting amongst each other we'll be able to get away from that and we'll also be able to you know leverage technologies that have probably been suppressed for hundreds of years and I've said this on my show too you know I was exposed to technology back as a as a captain and as a major that would never make the light of day and I watch all this stuff about
Starting point is 00:59:48 UFOs and all the stuff about reverse engineering you know alien technology. We don't need to do that. We've had very, very smart people in the scientific world for a very, very long time figuring some of these things out. We can do all this stuff. And, you know, if the CEO of Northrop Grumman says we can travel across the universe in seconds and travel across the planet seconds and take ET home, what does that tell you? It tells you we've solved some of these problems, but they're suppressing that technology. So I think a lot of things are going to happen in a very short period of time. We're going to live a decade in about a week, and then we're going to live 10 decades and probably a year. And it's because we're going to see a lot
Starting point is 01:00:30 of things that have been suppressed. We're going to see a lot of things that have been obfuscated, but more importantly, we're going to see a bunch of disclosure around things that have been going on the background that none of us knew about. And that will change the way that human beings look at each other. And that's where I think this is going. I don't get the sense that we're going to live in, you know, communist China with a social scoring system where I have to live in an apartment and eat bugs. Sorry, not going to happen. But do I think there's going to be some issues with the supply chain and food? Absolutely. But it is what it is and we'll survive it. It's a, it's a dark but hopeful take, you know, because you come out better. And all I would
Starting point is 01:01:10 add to it is, I, you know, what is, well, once again, Martin Armstrong, he would say, we're going to have an opportunity to steer humanity in the direction you're pointing. Yeah. There's also the opportunity you go back into the dark ages for 400 years or what have you if you allow the other side to take complete control of our future. I don't see it happening. I just don't see it happening because, you know, I'll take a spiritual aspect from it. They have done everything from such a dark place that from a spirit.
Starting point is 01:01:46 perspective is it's undoubtedly that there's spirit here helping us because i used the example on a show i think it was on mike show i used this example with alex trainer look at how many so the the the interview that camilla harris and tim waltz did i think it was on mbc or a bc i can't remember which station was on but a pre-recorded interview that was it went sideways really really quickly and just terrible interview, ruined her. I literally took her off the board as a candidate. It was that bad. And the only way you can explain that occurring is the fact that there's divine intervention there or their spirit intervening. Because so many people curate a recorded interview like that, that they would have stopped it and they would have recurated it, re-recorded it, to get it right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And that went through how many hands before it got to the public and it was still a public, you know, PR disaster for her, it's only one way you can explain that, and that's divine intervention. And there's been so many instances of that where they've tried to curate these things and push it in the public consciousness, and it's been disrupted for a variety of reasons, all of which are beyond human control. So you can't tell me that the, whether you want to call it God, the universe, whatever, right? Because we're talking to a bunch of different belief systems right now. You can't tell me that there's not divine intervention in this. And I don't for one second believe that we've come this far as a society only to let a few psychopaths lead us down the
Starting point is 01:03:22 path of a thousand years of darkness sorry that just doesn't pass the sniff test there's too many there's too many things right now that are on the cusp of changing the situation and look here's the cool part of this the cool part of this is let's just say for a second that we don't there's no kinetic what if a disclosure is what kicks all of this off. What if somebody comes out and says, here's anti-gravidic drives? Here is teleportation.
Starting point is 01:03:54 If that came out today, all this political nonsense, all the noise, all the political strife, all the cultural differences, would vanish. Because in one moment, the world would realize,
Starting point is 01:04:08 we don't need cars, we don't need bikes, we don't need buses, we don't need airplanes. We can teleport anywhere in the world. because we have that technology that would stop the entire conversation who's to say that's not what kicks all this off and think about it this way if that does happen and that kind of disclosure comes out and that kind of disclosure is
Starting point is 01:04:29 released to the public the political class will be irrelevant overnight and it will change the landscape of the planet and they will not be able to control any of it no matter what they try there's no way they'll be able to control that and that That to me would be the best outcome, right? Because it would take kinetic off the table. It would take war off the table. And everybody would be focused on because what's the next question after that? Well, if this is on the table and this is real, what else are you hiding from us?
Starting point is 01:05:00 And that starts a whole snowball of other disclosures. And, you know, I'm not one of those guys that believes in this whole secret space force thing. And space force is coming to believe us. I've been in that business. I know how that games play. But I do know that if there's technologies like that and there are technologies like that that are being suppressed, that it would literally change the social conversation in a nanosecond and it would take all the power away from the elite. That could be the other thing of why they're accelerating their timeline. I mean, I look at their movements right now and their behavior and it's so erratic and it feels like it's so unrehearsed.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And everything they've done to this point has been highly reversed, highly rehearsed, highly coordinated, and very strategic. And now they're tripping up. They're making mistakes. They're making public mistakes. Tons of blunders. I mean, I see a lot of different pieces that are falling apart right now. And it could mean a lot of different things, but that's the other opportunity that's there. And I would like that opportunity to happen over any of the kinetic and heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I've done the kinetic thing. I don't need to do that again. So that's what I'm hoping for. You know, when you bring up teleporting, my brain immediately went, that can't be real. But then you go, well, I know they have things that are, and he didn't say the same, but I don't know what word you want to use there. Do you think we have the ability to teleport? I, short answer is, absolutely. I think we figured that out decades ago.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I think that capability has been around decades ago. Have I ever seen it? No. Do I think it's possible? Yeah, I do think it's possible. Why do you think? Why do you think it's possible? Well, think about it this way.
Starting point is 01:06:51 So we went from World War II Piston Engine, Piston Engine, Prop, driven airplanes, to jets, to space in less than 20 years. And we supposedly landed on the moon in 69, and we've been up in space ever since 1969 but we never went back to the moon and the technology that we're using still today is a brute force rocket to put stuff into space you're telling me after 40 years 40 years in space 40 years of doing things and pushing things up into orbit that we haven't figured out a more effective way to lift things into space really it's like we hit 1970 and 1070 and 1070 and 10, technology for aviation and space travels stopped.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And look at NASA, not a space agency. I don't know what they are, but they are not a space agency. And you can't tell me that we've been using airliners and jets for how many years now? The 707 came out, I want to say, in 1967, 1966. And we're still using the same technology that we were using in the 60s to move people across the planet. we've never excelled past that yeah we had a short stint with the with the concord and supersonic flight but we've never cracked that nut and then on top of that we have spacecraft now that the air force uses for surveillance that can stay in orbit for two to three years and it's highly advanced we have we have
Starting point is 01:08:25 aircraft exotic aircraft quote unquote aurora that has been up there and photographed several times that's hypersonic and yet we can't figure out a hypersonic missile we can't figure out with all that technology we can't figure out how to build a you know super precise space based based weapon yeah i absolutely think that capability is there i think the capability for us to get off planet without a brute force rocket is there i think that we have you know technologies for levitation that you know think about think about a magnetic drive train right they've been talking about meg lab for how long you're telling me that we can't take Meglev and figure out how gravity works. I mean, it's just simple stuff that you look at for some of the technology we have.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And it's very easy to see that we literally stopped in time. And we haven't progressed past that. Nobody asks a question, why? Why are we still stuck in this technology that's essentially from the 50s and 60s? Computer technology hasn't advanced in what? 30 years? I mean, from the X-86 and the IBM, you know, the first IBM computers to where we are now, it really hasn't gone that far.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, they've miniaturized and they put capabilities on a cell phone. But have we miniaturized it to the point where we can do it all on a watch? Have we figured out how to do encrypted communications to where we don't have to have encryption keys? I mean, you talk about Bitcoin and blockchain and some of the other technologies you use. just there's a there's a host of things that are sitting there that don't make any sense because if you look at the way things progress right supposedly the technology is supposed to advance every every 24 to 48 months we've literally been stopped just minuscule improvements on the technology we have for the last 30 years so not only do i think that this technology exists i think this technology is operationalized
Starting point is 01:10:19 i think it's being suppressed by the defense industrial complex and i think that's exactly why Eisenhower said, be very wary of the defense industrial complex, not because of endless wars, but because there's an opportunity for them to advance past civilization and create a breakaway civilization. Do I think that happens? Who knows? But it's definitely a high probability given where we are from a technological standpoint, given where we are from a logistical standpoint across the planet. I mean, if this technology exists, we would be able to solve the problem for housing, for clean water,
Starting point is 01:10:54 and everything else across the planet overnight, literally overnight. And instead, we still have parts of the planet that are third, you know, less than third world countries. And we're, what, 24? And we can't, we can't share the wealth across the planet? I mean, it's those kinds of, those kinds of questions that people don't ask. And they don't look beyond where they're at. Like, you're telling me this is the most advanced phone we have. This and we've been using radios for how long? This is a radio
Starting point is 01:11:29 That's all it is. It's a radio. It's a two-way radio. That's it's not any more complicated than that But we we spend all of our time wrapped up in things that don't matter and we don't ask critical questions Like here's another critical question Ships have been around for 1,000 years and for the last 200 years I'll say 150 years they've had boilers on ships that create steam that move the ship through the water. You're telling me in all that time that we haven't created a system that's more efficient than that to move ships across the water. Really? It's people are working on ships. They've been building ships for
Starting point is 01:12:10 how many years. They've been building new systems in ships. They've been building GPS. We could put a ship next to a dock with precision now, but we can't build a propulsion system to move a ship across water faster or more efficiently. That to me is mind-boggling. Because it's not for lack of will. It's not for lack of technical capability. And it's not for lack of desire. It's all because it's being suppressed.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And why? Why would they suppress that kind of technology? That's the question you've got to ask. You're speechless again, which cracks me up. I don't know. It being, you know, full disclosure to the audience, It's being a Friday afternoon as we record this, in my mind, Monday coming out is, you know, it's not as fast as I release episodes, but on the general, that's, you know, like, that's,
Starting point is 01:13:08 you know, we have 24 hour turnaround on this side, but most part Monday, this would come out. And I'm, you know, ever since you started this, I'm like, you know, like the teleporting, the ships, the technology. I'm like, it's interesting. But my brain's still wrapped up and what you're talking about with the dates. And I'm like, if you're wrong, it'll come out in four days and we'll, you know, you'll be, people will listen and they'll be like, well, that didn't happen, right? And, and we carry on. On the flip side, if you're right, then it's like, I'm just, I sit here and I go, I don't know what to do with this information. And so my speechlessness is kind of like, you know, I don't know how to, I'm, what the hell am I supposed to do with this, folks, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:53 like, Steve, what am I supposed to do with what we've been talking about? Right? In your world, you talk about this all the time. You're in the analyzing the tea leaves and trying to pull out. You got their specific dates. And us as, you know, civilians don't think much, you know, like Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, you know, July 4th, July 1st are big dates. Other than that, it's holiday weekend or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And you just go off and not a big deal. And here in Canada, it's evaluations for hockey, right? Like that's that's kind of where the common person is at. And when you drop these bombshells on me, my brain's like, hmm. And I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm wrapped up in it. And I wish I wasn't caught off so off guard because I knew we were going to talk about this. But it's more, you know, it's pretty definitive of like, you're like these dates. It's like, hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:50 And so I actually don't know what to say other than that. I'm not making a prediction, though. That's the thing. I'm just really in the dates that I'm hearing, right? Because I don't know when this is going to happen. And I got away from trying to pick dates over a year ago because I was convinced that in June, July of last year, we were going to see, you know, some kind of kinetic activity or some, some kind of attempt on Trump.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And it turned out it was this year. So, you know, I got away from the dates. But I've been consistently hearing those three dates now for the better part of two months. And I've been hearing it from a variety of sources. So you start to hear it often enough. You start to think, okay, there's some probability to it. But I'm hoping it's a big nothing burger. I'm hoping nothing happens.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I'm hoping that this is a slow burn towards the, you know, the situation collapsing on it's under its own weight. And one of the things that I did find interesting because it was Alex Kramer of all people. who started off when you two were talking is about a higher power. I'm like, well, that's interesting. Because I don't know, maybe, Stephen, you've been, have you been a man of faith?
Starting point is 01:16:00 Or is that something completely out of your realm of possibilities until, you know, recently? Oh, no, I believe in God. I am a Christian and I believe in God. And I will tell you that I believe there's a higher power at work here. and I see it. I was going to put it on the table. So I was an identical twin.
Starting point is 01:16:22 My twin passed in 2020, just like three days before I moved to where I'm at now. And he had struggled with cancer for almost 11 years. And since he passed, strange things have happened. Like, I'm asleep. And my bathroom light switches on and switches off and then switches back on. and I get out of bed, I walk over there.
Starting point is 01:16:49 If things normal, turn the light off, go back to bed, light comes back on. And I finally say, Scott, I'm too tired for this. Turn the light off. The light goes off. You can't explain that, right? And other things, like, your gut telling you to go left versus right, and you don't have an explanation for why you're doing it, but you do it. And, you know, there's been so many instances of that,
Starting point is 01:17:14 just in the last three years of just these weird things that have guided me in the right place. Like, I will tell you that doing this, doing a weekly show drives me crazy. This is not my lane. It's not my wheelhouse. I don't like doing this. I don't sugarcoat things. I'm unapologically raw on my show because I don't like talking around things. I like talking to the problem versus talking around it.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Alex will tell you that. You know, he gets on the show with me and balances out my bitterness. and apathy, bitterness and cynicism. But, you know, he of all people, I said to him. And on that show, I think you're talking about the Mike Ferriss show. I said, there's a higher power at work here. There are too many things that are unexplained.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But, and I didn't say this on the show, but I'll say it now. These people have mocked God. You do not mock a higher power because it will come back and bite you in spades. And that's why I talk about the law of unintended consequences. because in every military operation, when you plan an operation, you always plan for the law of unattended consequences. Because once you step off the line of departure, everything goes sideways. The moment you step off the line departure. And you talk to any military guy that's planned anything and executed anything, they're going to tell you exactly the same thing I'm telling you right now.
Starting point is 01:18:32 You can plan to the nth degree. But the moment you step off, line departure, you throw the plan over your shoulder and you fight the enemy. because the enemy's going to do something you didn't expect or something's going to break or something's not going to happen or somebody's going to be late to line departure and guess what everything's going to go sideways so you fight the fight and these people have planned so meticulously and they have so many lines of operation at play right now that it's only going to take one line of operation to just throw the whole thing into chaos and disrupt all of their plants and they've had the luxury which is why i talk about the cultural narrative they've had the luxury for almost 50 years of being able to control everything we see, everything we hear, every piece of information we consume. That's gone. Now we have so many different platforms that they can't control. And it should tell you something that the Atlantic Council, which again is a Rockefeller slash Clinton slash state department slash DHS creation is so worried about telegram and platforms they can't control, which is why they're leveraging Pobble to get control of telegram.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And it's for one reason, one reason only. They're desperate to get the cultural narrative back because they don't want any of their lines of operation disrupted by one piece of information. It's happening every day. And I think that there's a higher power at work that's pushing this disclosure out and pushing the fact that all of these dark nefarious activities are going to come to light. I can't there's no other way to explain it and I think at some point that the universe when the universe steps in people are going to be shocked and odd at what they see but it's going to be true and when it when it does happen you're going to see humanity unite in a way that we've never united before because look the piece that I haven't really talked about that people need to get their heads around
Starting point is 01:20:25 and this is a black pill is that these people all the elite all these Hollywood stars all these music industry super megastars that you're that you're still wrapped up in. Most of them are pedophiles. Almost all of them have been to Epstein's Island. And if you look at the manifest of who went to Epstein's Island, you got, you got John Roberts, Justice Roberts, you got university heads, you have chiefs of police, you have municipal leaders, you have Hollywood stars, you have producers, directors, you have music industry stars, I'll went to the island. You only go to the island for one thing. That's to rape, torture, or dismembered children. That's what they do. They're satanic. It's a satanic cult. It's real. And it's not something I'm making up because I've seen it with my own eyes. I kick doors on a red room. And a red room is where they put a kid in a chair and a bunch of really rich people on the dark web and in a viewing gallery surrounding the chair dictate what happens to the kid in the chair.
Starting point is 01:21:30 So they either rape, torture, or dismember the kid right there. And you can't unsee a room full of body parts. You can't. And if you listen to The Sound of Freedom and you go watch that movie, you're going to see just an inkling of that. That's true. All that stuff's real. And Epstein was not the only island.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Diddy should tell you that Epstein was not the only island. And wasn't the only player doing the whole coercion and manipulation and compromising of politicians. and key leaders. Did he was doing exactly the same thing. He was collecting tape, bribery tape, blackmail tapes on all these politicians at the same time Epstein was doing it. So you can make the leap that there's other islands, other individuals across this planet that are doing exactly the same thing. That should tell you that the human traffic industry and slavery never went away. It got bigger, especially since the slave markets were reopened in Tripoli. So all of these things
Starting point is 01:22:30 are going to come to light and people need to realize that's what they need to get prepared for it's not the kinetic or any of the other things it's that because that's going to be an absolute mind it's going to it's going to blow people's minds to the point where people won't be able to to hear it or see it and the kicker in all of that is the fact that there are tapes literally hundreds of tapes and CDs and DVDs that were created over the years of all of this activity at some point somebody's got that information at some point it's going to come out and when it does that the hardest thing is going to be for the public to accept it and once they once they do and once they realize how insidious it really is then you're going to see something different and just to give you some
Starting point is 01:23:16 idea how bad the problem is right now in 2019 there was 44 000 kids that were abducted last year 325 000 so the problem's gotten worse not better And the cartels are trafficking humans and kids. The slave trade, they're still trafficking kids. And they're moving 5,000 kids a night across the border. I think it's 5,000 kids a night across the border. Put them on planes and they're going to all parts unknown. And it's being done by the federal government, paid for by the federal government through NGOs.
Starting point is 01:23:52 What does that tell you? It tells you everybody in the government is involved in this. This is the problem of our lifetime. is why we're all here is to solve this problem. And I think that's an even bigger problem than the collapse of the government and the collapse of the Western system, which needs to happen anyway. So that's the black pill that people need to get their head around. It's not the rest of this stuff. It's that because all those things you thought, all these people you thought were good people, they're all douchebags. And it should tell you something that once
Starting point is 01:24:24 Diddy was arrested, a host of stars deleted their Twitter feeds, deleted their, their social media what does that tell you they know that the end is coming and look they're not going to go peacefully into the night we all know that so steal yourself for it because when it happens then you're going to see the kinetic that you're all thinking is going to happen that's where it's going to happen is taking these people out and you know if if that's the next order battle still be it i mean you think you know like like go back to like jfk right they haven't released you You know, it's been hidden in a shroud, even though everybody's pretty sure on the details. But, I mean, regardless, it's been hidden in a shroud.
Starting point is 01:25:08 You know, when you talk about like the tapes and Epstein and on and on and on, I don't know if I have any, like, trust that the darkness of that will truly come out. I mean, in saying that, in saying that, when Epstein happened, everyone's like, oh, my God, Epstein, that finally happened, right? and then, you know, it's been how long and they killed them and on and on and then, you know, and all the things. And then when P.D. P.D. first got raided and disappeared. I was like, yeah. The thing that shocked me, and I don't know, maybe it didn't shock you, was I thought it was going to happen the same or similar to like the Epstein thing where it's like, yeah, he's got some things, but they never release anything. But the amount of information that's come out and has been very. to the point where there's no like, well, maybe something happened. Well, maybe it's like, no, it's, it's been like legit.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Talked about you're like, holy crap. I can't believe they're like debriefing the public on what's going on. I guess what gives you faith that more is going to come out, especially when you're talking the tapes and everything else, when government to this point has been the complete opposite. Like they haven't released things like that. They've hidden things like that where it's high, powerful people in a shroud. Well, I would say it's twofold, right?
Starting point is 01:26:39 So what we're watching at the national level and on the world stage is we're watching basically a dick waving contest between the elite, right? There's no good guys in this. People need to get this mindset that there's good guys in the background are white hats, all that other happy horse shit. That's all BS, right? It's all a bunch of horse shit. Like the whole Q thing, right? I took SABO rounds because of saying the Q thing was a SIA. Absolutely it was a SIA.
Starting point is 01:27:07 It was all designed to keep people at home and keep them out of the streets when they stole the election in 2020. And look at how many people have turned that into a religion. It's a religion for people. They can't, they can't. Like it's 2024 and I'm still seeing these posts from 2017 like the future proves past. And then a bunch of master debating about what that means. And still nothing's happened. right but the difference right now is that you have oligarchs that have figured out that if the
Starting point is 01:27:38 world elite eg. the world economic forum if that's who you want to call is behind this i think it's institutional money that's way in the shadows of the wef and world health organization center there's people in the elite circles that realize they don't have a seat at the table and they're not going to have a place in the new world order so they're fighting against the to preserve their own way of life and it's self-preservation more than it is i care about the country i care about the planet i care about the individuals right it's just self-preservation so there's no good guys in this the bigger picture is is that the disclosures are not going to happen by them they're not going to be allowed to happen right it's going to happen by the people that were
Starting point is 01:28:21 affected by it and the tapes are going to be released by somebody who's who has squirled away some of those original tapes of some of these original people and those are going to come out and they're going to go viral it's not going to be done by an organized you know group of individuals that's releasing this information for public consumption it's going to come out just the way it is now by people that have been to ditty parties watched obama having sex with another man watched all these other stars having sex with children that that's how it's going to come out because it's already coming out right and once the tidal wave starts guess what But they are not going to be able to stop it. There's no amount of social media they can shut down that will stop the information from flowing. Because if there's one thing I learned in Iraq, you can shut off the internet, you can shut down radio, you can shut down TV,
Starting point is 01:29:10 but people will find a way to get information around. And they are highly effective at it and very creative. And you can, the best laid plans around censorship and everything else, and I'll use the IED videos on YouTube. When the enemy started posting, you know, IED videos of U.S. troops get blown up, that sent shockwaves to the entire intelligence planet and freaked people out because they didn't have, they didn't know how to control it. So ever since 2004, they've worked very aggressively to build the infrastructure to not only catch that kind of thing, catch misinformation, but to censor it. And now we're seeing people get very creative.
Starting point is 01:29:53 building new platforms every day. They're building new mechanisms to communicate every single day. Is that why they had to get telegrams? Absolutely. Because at telegram, people were talking about the truth. So here's the byproduct of the Q, the Q. The byproduct of the Q. Siop that scared the hell out of absolutely everybody in DC is the fact that there was all of these average Americans that were doing deep, deep dives into all the company relationships, all the individual relationships, all the corporate relationships, all the movement between corporations and the federal government, but worse, they were going into the private public partnerships that were created by Obama and Bush and the
Starting point is 01:30:40 others to obfuscate what they were doing and they uncovered a bunch of malfeasance. Where do you think the disclosure around them using misspelled names, and emails, misspelled names and communications, where do you think that came from? Where they found all of those different messages, where the names were spelled wrong on purpose so that they could pass information and it wouldn't be caught by a FOIA request? That was found by patriots that were literally in the Q movement, that were just doing deep research. How do you think they figured out the Atlantic Council is behind all the censorship and the Clintons are deeply involved in that? In fact, let me just say this for all of your viewers.
Starting point is 01:31:22 if you're in Canada. If you want to know why there's so much malfeasance in the U.S., go back to the Clintons and their first Clinton, the first time Clinton was president, his first term. Every stinky pile of dog shit that has fraud, waste, or any other kind of money laundering, racketeering, human trafficking, go back to the first Clinton administration. You'll see where it all started. Those two shitheads have ruined the entire country with all of their malfeasance and criminal. And they've ruined, what, four states now by installing all these criminals into public service.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Yeah, that's where you can, I blame them mainly because I can't stand her. She's a Bolshevik. So I like to just blanketly blame her for everything wrong with the universe. But my point of saying all of this is, is that the disclosures that are coming are not going to be by the establishment. It's going to be by people that were affected by the establishment, what that were smart enough, to be able to whirl away information that's true, that's verifiable, and most importantly, is visual. Because the piece that we've missed in all of this is the visual stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:32:36 Epstein had thousands of tapes. And look, the thing about Epstein that nobody's talking about, and this is the other part of this, is that if that was a Mossad operation, which it's wide. believed it was Mossad that was operated that in conjunction with the CIA that is an act of war and if if it was conducted with the CIA's help that's treason and an act of war and that cannot and will not be let go of that is going to be that's going to come home to roost I don't know what is what concatenation it's going to come in but it's going to come home to roost and it shows if that's true It shows just how deeply involved Israel has been in American politics and how deeply compromised all of our officials in office right now are by Israel.
Starting point is 01:33:34 But it begs the question, if Mossad handed the reins off to somebody else who took over the reins and took over all that information, I would suggest that it was the FBI that stepped in and took over. Because if you look at Chris Ray's demeanor when he was on Capitol Hill, that's a dude that's got all the goods and the receipt. So you can make a lot of assumptions out of that, but what's going to bite them is the fact that you have all these victims coming out of the woodwork now. And they're going to start telling stories that are true and that are going to implicate a lot of people. So they're not going to have a choice but to disclose some of this. Well, I tell you what, this is on the level of disappointment, this is as far away as you can get from it. We are going to have you, I'm just in my brain. I'm going to have you back and I'm going to make sure I stir in.
Starting point is 01:34:25 The guy I'm thinking of is Dave Collum because I think the two of you talking about human trafficking would be very, very interesting because that's what Dave's spent, you know, a huge chunk of his time digging into and talking to different people and on and on. So I appreciate you coming on. I got a lot. You've got a lot swirling my head. And this has happened like three times in the last like two weeks with people coming on. It reminds me the first time Tom came on, and Tom and Alex, for that matter, and they looked at me and they're like, you okay? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what the hell I just did, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:01 And but regardless, I appreciate you coming on doing this and answering the call on a late Friday afternoon and certainly by the time people hear this. And giving them some things to stew on and chew on and certainly on this side. And if you're willing at a future date, we'll have you back on, Stephen. and we'll discuss some more things. Absolutely. And one thing I want to tee up with you is I'd love to do a show with both Craneer and with Tom Longo because I've done several shows with each one of them. And I think that would be a great show.
Starting point is 01:35:36 And I think more importantly, I like those guys. So I keep telling Tom that every time I'm on a show with him, he creates this black hole of knowledge that I have to dive into just to keep up with him. And it's, you know, it's terrible because the guy is so incredibly smart. right and he's called so many things that are true that you can't help but pay attention the other guy that's like that is mac bracken so matt bracken i do shows with him all the time because he was he's been on my roundtable with michael yon and a few other guys and uh you know i have uh let's see who else i have on mad everett nc scout he does radio contra joe doleo he does tactical wisdom uh chris from combat
Starting point is 01:36:12 studies group he he's you know in clay martin who's written books all those guys are on my roundtable right but Matt's one of those guys where he calls things out and then it happens you're like damn didn't see that coming like I was convinced that they were going to install Hillary as the candidate I was convinced of it like Martin Armstrong saw it I saw it I'm like that's how she works all this subversive stuff and then they put Harris in there and like didn't see that coming and Matt's like yep saw that coming so that's another guy you should have on with those two guys because well well I tell you what we'll talk after after we get to done here. And maybe there's a few more people that I can get put in line with. And then we start,
Starting point is 01:36:54 because once they've all done, I think of this is the Marvel, you know, the SMP is kind of the Marvel universe. You can love or hate that. I know Tom has his thoughts on it. But I like what they did in that they had standalones. So that by the time you get to where everybody's sitting around the table, everybody can go back and listen to the original like, okay, that's who they are. And then when you get buzzing ideas, you jump straight into it. And there's no, you don't have to warm up. It's just, you go straight into it. And, um, you know, I went back and listened to my first Alex interview. Actually, not that long ago. And man, what he talked about still holds up to this point. And I'm just like, you know, having those one-on-ones where a person really gets to explore the, the, the person is. And, um,
Starting point is 01:37:38 and then, and then allow you guys to, to bounce, you know, like universe is collide when it's Tom and Alex and certainly there's been a few now where different people in that realm are coming on this side. It's, well, I don't know what, I'll wait for the audience to tell me what they think of all this, right? And, you know, but this has been at times a bullet train of speed that I did not see coming, even though I listened to you a ton before I put you on. So regardless, Stephen, I appreciate you coming on and doing this.
Starting point is 01:38:09 And we'll see what we can do off air to line some things up. Thanks again for hopping on. Yeah, my pleasure.

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