Shaun Newman Podcast - #733 - Military Roundtable

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

We discuss the patterns of life, the rhythm of life and dealing with the intensity of the events in the world. Jamie Sinclair spent 33 years in the Canadian Military. He’s a former member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas Chuck Prodonick is a retired sergeant of the Canadian Military. He is a former member of Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry who served in four tours overseas. Cornerstone Forum ‘25 https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Clothing Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://snp-8.creator-spring.com/listing/the-mashup-collection⁠⁠ Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone]

This is Chris Sims. This is Tom Romago. This is Chuck Pradnik. This is Alex Kraner. This is Daniel Smith. And welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the podcast. Folks, happy Thursday.

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Let's get on to that tale of the tape. The first spent 33 years in the Canadian military. He's a former member of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and served in four tours overseas. The second, a retired sergeant of the Canadian military, a former member of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry who also served in four tours overseas. I'm talking about Jamie Sinclair and Chuck Prudnick. So buckle up. Here we go. Wow, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast, I should say.

I got Chuck Proudnick, Jamie Sinclair, back in studio for, you know, another version of the military roundtable, I guess. Either way, thanks for making the trek today, boys. Good to see you again, dude. Yep, thanks for having us. Now, before I get anywhere... The booty. The booty, that's right. There's the key chain, the freedom key chain,

there's the one ounce of silver on yesterday's intro. Jamie would have been talking about... I introduced them to silver, so I guess I'm happy about that. And gold. And gold, yes. But he said, I'm a lot of... leg guy. Yeah, I got way more lead. It's easier to exchange. Well, it's going to be the most valuable commodity once it all happened. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah, there wasn't much gold being traded around

and too many civil wars I've been at, but lots of lead. I did, I will say this in my time over, when we were overseas in 94 in Bosnia, Croatia, in that area, like when the, when their Fiat currency became, you know, wheelbarrels couldn't buy you a loaf of bread. Then you started to see other things being traded. And I don't know that I necessarily saw coinage of any sort, but. Well, in my area, it was the Germans. The German made new currency for the Croats. And it looked just like the Deutsche.

Yeah, it was like they, they funded that whole war for them. But people, people think, well, stuff like this is a, is a lark or, you know, some sort of crazy conspiracy. thing to get into, but we've both been to places in the world, not just there where you are trading batteries or a skill set or a bit of diesel or some sort of food for your next meal or the thing you need or an item. And it's not tapping your card at the, you know, that convenience is gone. Yeah.

And like when I worked in Africa, like it was just like it was machetes instead of bullets in. Right. like they were ruthless. Like they needed something they were getting it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a different world out there once society breaks down. And yeah, you got to be able to protect yourself. And number one weapon is your brain, right?

Like if you're smart enough, like when I worked in Africa, I didn't have a gun or nothing. But I used my brain and it got me out a lot of situations. The best thing I did over there is, my main interpreter, his daughter got malaria. And I actually spent money on, it was like five bucks. It cost me to get her all the medication she needed. So she'd survive. And that man would have jumped in front of a bus for me.

So and that goes back to the golden rule that you're taught when you're a kid. And doing the right thing as Canadians. Like that saved my life too, right? Yeah. Building those relationships. Yeah. I got given a book by Ken Rutherford. So I showed it to Ken.

The Dark Secrets of H-S-T-F Survival by Selko Begovich. Have you ever heard of this guy? I've heard of him, yeah. I haven't read his book, but I have heard of him, yeah. I'm reading it right now, and basically he's, you know, Bosnia, right? He's in the middle of when it all went down, and he's talking about, you know, to me, like, once it goes wild, I don't think anyone can ever explain to you until you're probably in it, right? It's like if you've never been in a fight, I just mean even like an actual where you're getting punched in the face. You can talk about it all you want.

You can do all the theory you want. But until you actually get punched in the face and know what it feels like and know that you don't die and know that you, you know, it's almost like this adrenaline rush and you go, oh, I didn't realize. And then the pain kind of seeps in afterwards. What he talks about in this book, I'm like, there's parts of it. I can't even grasp. Other parts that I find really intriguing is what me and you were talking about, Jamie, before you, before Chuck got in the room. was like it starts with a divide it starts with a narrative it starts with censorship it starts with them pitting two sides against each other these are the

little signs you can start to see and he talks about it in his book talks he talks specifically about that I find that really intriguing because of you know like where we were through COVID and where we sit now well you look at what they did is take them specifically and I don't want to pick on them I'm not picking on them it's just it's a very recent and very we live that yeah there was moments over there where we saw certain things, experienced certain things. And it only took them less than a small generation's worth of time to pit them. And I mean they had cultural religious lines to do it with and identity lines to do that with. And they did it quickly and pitted them.

You look at the time frame they pumped it through us in COVID. And now we're talking social media, government affected media, all of this kind of things. We had snitch lines. We had people willing and happily ratting each other out if you didn't wear your mask properly at wherever you were or you weren't following the stupid arrows on the floor that must have been saving tens of lives around the world on the floor in the grocery store. It took them two weeks, two weeks to have people, a segment of our society was, were willing capos. They would have been happily, they were happily turning people in for snitch lines, ostracizing family

members you you extrapolate that and it doesn't take a big brain to extrapolate how quickly that devolves into what you already heard them saying camps that word camps was thrown around thrown about in regular media here in Canada by big named people here in influencers well Trudeau Trudeau said it himself and using that that French meat or yeah like when you sit down and back and talking about putting these people somewhere and things like that so We, the language he used about not letting them take part in normal society and, yeah, but going back to, uh, what you're saying or Chuck, like when, uh, Henry and I came up here, uh, SaaS hockey was going to get a volunteer from the teams to take, you know, sensitive medical information from the, from individuals that weren't vaccinated. And Henry came up with a great idea about just have everybody's name on the list and everybody tests for COVID. And if there's some, that doesn't test negative then they're scratch for the game and then that way you're not asking if you've been vaccinated or not vaccinated if you've got you know you're just basically

seeing if their COVID test was positive or negative and the the willingness of people to want to be the person to take that information it was it was fucking scary because it reminds me of Croatia Bosnia Africa and and those people that are willing to willing and to use the The word capos, you probably historically what that word means from like the camps in World War II, Capos were inmates, prisoner inmates who were coerced, there was coercion, rewarded, any tool you could use to lever them into becoming an overseer of their own prison population, these capos. Yeah, that's survival though. It's survival.

When you're in those situations, and I don't mean to take away from what that word really means. But the first word I thought of when I saw these people happily, you know, taking your, wanting this information. They were. I wouldn't, I wouldn't think they'd be capos because those people are survival. These are like, these people would be like Gestapo type people that believed in their, in what they were doing so much that they would put on a brown shirt and turn you in. Oh, in a heartbeat. It was all fabric of the same recipe for sure. It just, it blew my mind how quickly, especially after what we've seen.

seen over there how quickly normal civilized people who've really never suffered a day in their lives over here we have we we joke about first world problems and it's true i've been to lots of places in the world who get by on nothing and have real problems about well where am i where am i going to get the next meal what clean water some medication and you see these people we joked about the toilet paper thing, uh, the first two weeks, we couldn't, people couldn't find toilet paper. What a weird thing to run out of, but that happens. But um, I was, while this was happening, I was like, I don't have to leave my house for six months. And I even then I could stretch that. If something happens, I don't have to leave my home for at least six months or I have other

contingencies in place where I'm good for a long, significant amount of time. And these people were going out, couldn't get toilet paper. I'm thinking, what else don't you have? I'm, what, What are you going to eat if the stores go past their three-day turnaround on food? They have a just in-time replacement at grocery stores. But hey, Chuck, just to circle back, though. Like Canadians, like when I was in Normandy and you guys got me on there from Normandy and I was bawling like a crybaby and would have used up boxes of toilet paper for tissue regs for wiping my eyes.

But the thing was there is that they've been occupied and they've had their freedom taken away. And what they teach their kids there is way different than what we're teaching our kids. Yeah. So that's the difference between being a nation that's never been occupied by a foreign power compared to what is going on or what is being taught in Europe, like to the kids from. That's a great point. You go to a place like Holland where they revere Canadians. They, you look what they do with the Canadian graves over there in this Canadian soldier cemeteries. several times year they're like they're lit up they're they're beautifully taken care of they teach Canadian soldiers history there because it was Canadians that liberated them here in Canada and I'm not talking not only that though Chuck the the Dutch would have

starved to death yeah like the Germans were starving the Dutch and the Canadians are like all right let's have a 10 day 10 day break ceasefire you guys get your dead and we'll feed the Dutch and the Germans are like no we're not doing it So then they carried on with the battle. And about a month later, like the Canadian said, okay, let's do a 10 day ceasefire so we can air drop in food for the Dutch. Yeah. And that's why they love Canada because if it wasn't for us, like thousands would have perished.

But you contrast that with what we're shown here in Canada about I'm talking our history in general. We are colonizers. We're the worst people ever. We are. We should apologize for our. our history going back to when we first set up a farm in this nation because it's all our fault. Everything is our fault and how dare we have done anything? It doesn't matter.

I just, I go back to when you and Henry came and you just talked about it, it just starts with this tiny little divide. Just tiny. Doesn't have to be that big, just tiny. And I see it all the time now. Well, look at all it is is just pitting. Look at what happened after that. The trucker gone boy happened. You know, like actually, but before that,

happened before that happened what happened before that was they started talking about how we were filling up the hospitals and they kept ramping it up and that divide kept and then there was a lockdown in Quebec they did they locked everybody up all the people in Quebec couldn't go out of their houses they had the curfew and everything so it actually

ratcheted it up further and further to the point you know I've told this story a few times to where the book club met out in the middle of the pasture no phones and nothing everybody was just terrified they're like are we like are we like are we leaving this kind like how what are we going to do here like it didn't look like there was any hope yeah you know it was just and every time i have somebody on to talk with that it lost their job lost this lost you know 10 different things from that time that's what it always comes back to is they like choked it out

and so you go i'm you know in a way thankful for that time because it's really open my eyes to how quickly things can go when they talk about how quick the difference now is i i just think you know, there's so much conversation happening on forums like this. Yeah. That open it up and you get to think about, huh, that is interesting. You get to still see what they're doing and it stresses you out. It's why I wanted to have you two in here. I wanted to bring it to the rhythm of life, right?

Actually, actually, you just made my hair stand up. If we could go back to that. Sure. Like what we've learned. What hair would that be? Yeah, really, right? It's on the back of my neck. I got lots back there.

But, no, like, so what we've taught our kids is like the stand up. Don't say no. Like, don't say, yeah. to everything that's being taught to you, but we're kind of getting complacent because right now let's think about what's going to happen. Like when Trump comes into power, all those immigrants are coming to Canada, right? And we are so close to losing our identity as Canadians and our values. And if we don't get ahead of this tsunami that's going to happen like in November, we could seriously lose our country. And it'll turn to you.

into a third world country. And the reason why I say this is because when I was working in Africa, apartheid was ended and the blacks took over South Africa. And all the old blacks that worked with me, they liked it better when the whites ran the country because there was stability and there was law and order. When like if you're in Africa or there now, there's no law and order. People are being murdered and it's just chaos. And I can see that in the future. for Canada if we don't get ahead of this because it's it's and it's something we should be talking but how do you get ahead of it well you got to start well first of all we people that are coming across the borders we've got to figure out a way of getting them back to their nation to their nation

that they came from because they're illegal immigrants that went into the states and they're going to be illegal immigrants coming into Canada we can't house any more illegal immigrants and we're not talking 100,000 people like there's like we brought in an extra million people there's year and last year we're we're already swamp there's going to be there's literally going to be hundreds of thousands of immigrants flooding our border after the fifth of November that you think your hospital wait times are ridiculous now you think going to buy a home will be easier down the road I mean there's no there's no homes for people to move into there's there's no hospital I like drinking Sean

there's a there's just there was nothing already and there's no you think our classrooms are getting your You know, you think the classrooms are any less packed right now? There's no, there's nothing left. And we're still bringing people in. And let's take India, for example, because obviously that's the one that's foremost on most people's mind right now. You have Jagmeet Singh trying to go to war with Modi and India over this Calistani conflict, which, why is that a thing in Canada? Just take the, it's taking the heat off of them.

It's taking the heat off. Yeah, that's one of the reason. He's doing it. But you take India just as the example. I'm not picking on India or people from India. I don't give a shit what you think. India is the largest democracy in the world. What are people fleeing from?

Well, they need a better way of life. Do it there. You're coming here. They're not fleeing India. They're coming here to take over. They're coming here to take over. They're not fleeing. All these fraudulent immigration offices that are being busted one after the other

after the other, basically ripping off the people that they're, purporting to help and then just dumping them like here's take your 20,000 because you have to have to show 20,000 bucks in the bank account to do part of these programs. It's all so here's here's the other thing. So yeah, India, you know, they've they've had their they've had some people murdered in Canada. Guess what China does. China, they come knocking on your door and they say here's a plane ticket. You got to go back to China. Yeah. To be investigated for following whatever rule like you're you're doing something that the chinese government hates once you're back in china then they kill you there so they're killing just as many chinese Canadians but they just

they just send them back to china to do it yeah that's and they willingly go because they don't then the family gets killed too so i mean that's why they have these chinese police stations here that we have a foreign country's police stations here like this is it's mind-blowing that this isn't like just done away with it's Like I can't I can't fathom Can we take a time out here? Four I just gotta talk to you about something real cool

Okay look at this thing From Keon Flemont The Patricia Flagg Yeah Hey isn't that cool That's pretty cool Do you happen to have your coin on you? That's in my jacket

That's a That's not a good excuse Well it's over there in my jacket What do you want? Well go get it Oh my Christ This is a beer on the line I've been

I've been just vibrating over here waiting to do this to him. Oh, he better have it. Oh, fuck, he does. Oh, wait, that's not your regimental coin. That's not a regimental coin. Yes, it is. Two commandal. Fucking Canadian Airborne Regiment, motherfucker.

You were never in 10 Mountain. But I got the coin from their general. It doesn't matter. I got one from the CDS. I don't care he is coin. I got this for snapping a bunch of dudes. Yeah? I got one from the CDS for killing.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. If I get to get it on the coin game, Mine didn't do anything. You get me a coin. He's buying a beer. He's buying as a beer. He's got to carry a red in.

I tried in the backstory of this. Jamie walked in, and in the first two minutes, I threw out my coin. He's like, throwing down coins on me? I'm like, well,

you gave it to me. That's a beautiful coin. You got yours for falling out of airplanes. This is for Durping dudes. I was in, I was in the one I got from the CBS. I got it in Afghanistan. Did you?

Yeah. He added it to me when I was doing. Oh, Hillier? Yeah, Hillier. I got a Juno Beach, uh, D-Day 80th anniversary coin and I got it for bringing military men on.

I'm quite happy with the reason I have my coin. That's an awesome coin. You're an honorary rifleman actually. I'll get you a little certificate. I'm just, I'm just laughing because now anytime I bring any military guy in, it's going to be on the table. Right? I had to try it on Jamie just to see if he remembered.

Oh, he doesn't go anywhere without it. Well, that's fair. That's fair. Not even in the shower. Weirdo. Did I tell you that joke? Or not joke, but that story? I'll tell you later off cameras.

There's nudity in it. Oh, Jesus. Now, we were talking about China, okay? Yeah. We got... Hardly sidelined. Okay, okay, I want to do rhythm of life. I don't care if we go back to China.

Yep, yep. One of the things that happened was I called Chuck after it happened. I interviewed Lieutenant Colonel, retired Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Murray from the United States. He started talking about... how many millions of people have come across the U.S. border into there illegally and the fact that in the lead-up to the U.S. election, you know, there was going to be like terrorist attacks. And he gave off four dates. And in fairness, I don't blame him for the four days. You know, I take that information and I try and store it somewhere. But it worked me up. I was just like, holy crap, if this actually happens and I don't tell people sooner, you know, as soon as I get off of it. and Chuck put this thought in my head and I'm like, oh, this is why you're here.

I want to talk about the rhythm of life because as things get more hyperbolic, right, as things start to increase and you know, like I, these two haven't heard it yet, but I just got off with Tom and Alex. And one of the things that came out of that conversation is they dampened the fire of all the stuff,

you know, of Iran letting off this and that happened in there. And, you know, like Israel's going to go full scorched earth on Iran and they talked about well actually it got leaked and that means if it got leaked it got leaked from these levels and that means there's good people trying to dampen this down and they actually brought me back down and I thought rhythm of life so you all of us are taking in all this information now if you're in the military you've been living in a world especially when you were deployed of like people are going to try

and shoot it out right you're going to be in this hyper sensitive time for the entire time you're deployed Us people sitting here, like, I just think all my life until I was, I don't know, probably ran into you two guys. I didn't think anything of anything. I didn't, you know, I was naive as it gets. And now I have these people come on and I'm like, I don't know how to store this information and not be a little bit frazzled. And not react to everything. I remember the day that you called, that morning you called because you had, you had plans, some stuff going on a little bit of a trip and all that.

And you're like, dude just said that this is going to happen like in the next few hours. I'm like just rhythm normally. Always have your head on a swivel. Yeah, but you can't. The moment you start over adjusting your life and your plans to everything what you are, you're, you've just gone down the Alex Jones trap. And I'm not knocking Jones here. I mean, I'm knocking them a bit. A little bit.

But it's that it is that overhyped sense of, uh, disaster bation where people are just like the next disaster. the next disaster, didn't you know this? We talk about this pattern of life that him and I basically, that's the survival skill you attain in a conflict zone or in any sort of place that you're under a constant threat. You have to establish and learn and adjust to patterns of life that you're watching. And that threat level will bring up your cue and, you know, your spider senses, your gut feeling, all these things. When we come back from a place like that, especially when you've seen active combat for

months and months and months, everything is still hyperful. focused, you're hypervigilant. I'm driving in the truck and some asshole cuts me off and I'm like, my hand instantly reaches where my rifle would be. And that went on for, that's hypervigilance goes on for months. And then you're like, dude, everything in the news that I'm watching is like, oh, Jesus, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a trend. You have to, you have to bring yourself out of it. You have to work your way out of it. But you still will always apply those patterns of life to what I'm watching the news, what I'm watching my country, what I'm watching in my neighborhood. Those trends, if you're not seeing those trends, if you're not able to

determine those trends and just wipe them off as well, those racist assholes or they're overreacting or they're, go ahead, be the guy that's not ready. I don't give a shit. I know Chuck's right though. Like, if you stop, if you like stop running your life the way that you want to go because of something, then they're actually getting to you. They're winning. You're going to drive yourself insane. Yeah. So like my son's going to go play boss. playing Boston here this he's leaving on Friday and you know obviously November 5th is coming you know I've got I've already kind of started formulating a exit plan for him to get the fuck out of there but I'm not going to talk to him and say don't go yeah I'm not going to I'm not

going to tell them all this scary shit and make them not focus on hockey like but but as a dad like I'm I'm thinking how to fuck do I get them out of there right so I'm going to be reaching out to some people that hopefully knows somebody in in the area that he can that he can meet and have somebody there that that I can trust right because and that's how it has to be as the parent that's it my kids already know I'm crazy on some level but I don't ever in I don't ever sit there and form the family up and say well then today and Iran and Israel's conflict this is what's going to happen in two days or look at what the the you know in the Ukraine Russia war what's happening you can't do that to your family your

kids you're I mean if you call or we call each other or a few other vets I know or like dude are you seeing what I'm seeing what I'm seeing well we do call what after Trump gets shot like well I was sitting in the States right now right now what did I text you both I'm like I don't know what to do right now sitting in the state because my that's a big moment that's a real moment that could have triggered that could have triggered fucking had he gone down dude I was watching that live and we've talked about this and we've talked about this the moment when he went down under that dog pile when he did this I thought, oh, he's been hit. How hard was he hit? Like when he, when he took the hit and he

reacted to his ear. And he went under the dog pile. I thought if he's got, if they snapped him hard enough and he just had that your body's going to react. The synaptic nerve system is just going to, whether you're dead or not, it's going to have a reaction. And I thought, fuck, if he's dead, we're at war. And I waited. I don't think I breathe for like the 10 seconds it took them to get him on his feet. And I'm like, we're not going to war yet. Like yet. But, but if they get him and they've tried now one other time at the golf course and that other idiot that they got pulled over with the guns. Like we're talking about last time and I mentioned you're like like it's it's going to happen

again and my biggest thing is it's going to be it'd be something in his aircraft. I agree too. Yeah, I agree with that. Like if it's a fucking. That's how they got the Kennedy. Well, look at the phones that they blew up in. With Hezbollah. And just so going back to the Pagers.

The Pagers. Just going back to. to a leaked thing out of Israel. Like Israel, if they leaked something, it was on purpose. Like, just so you know, like, they're pretty fucking slag. Well, it wasn't Israel. It was the U.S. Joint Chiefs, the staff.

But Israel would ask them to leak it so that it sounds like it's something that came from somebody else. Like, they're setting shit up. Like, shit doesn't get leaked on that. There's two ways that go, that fork, though. They're either deepening the setup, which is possible. The extra deception Or they're trying to exit it

Or they're trying to Like you said earlier Dampen it down Get a logical reasonable Face saving maneuver out While the fucking Americans leak this on us

We can't actually do the thing Israel's going to take out their nuclear Capability I believe they will They're not going to stop To that stuff Yeah They're not going to invade

They're not going to invade Iran But what Luongo and Crane But what Luongo and Craneer We're saying is Now there's Russian soldiers In Iran And now there's American soldiers

in Israel which is like... They've always has been. Yeah. Always has been. Russia has had a footprint in Iran because they've been working together in Syria. Yeah. There was a time in Syria where there'd be Spets and As Iranian Special Forces, Canadian Special Forces,

American Special Forces, and they're all fucking looking at each other. There's, I think I said... They're all working against each other. There's videos even coming out like as recently as a month ago of joint American and Russian patrols in Syria, like joint patrols of contested areas, like heavily beat up area. Because they're, they're going after ISIS, right? So they're working. So you mean joint patrols of Russians and Americans?

Yeah, doing a co-patrol together. Yeah, they would, so they wouldn't kill each other. They'd be like, because they, you know, hey, just so you know, we're going to be over here too. I know you guys are going to be over there. You're killing ISIS. We're killing ISIS. We're just not kill each other. Yeah.

And that's what happens. I mean. So you don't always have like an officer in charge of all this shit. It'd be like a guy like Chuck or myself. You'd see each other. You remember. Were you in Kosovo? No, I was in Croatia.

Or no, Bosnia. I went to Kosovo, which was a fucking joke. But anyway, the NATO doesn't attack any countries. Bullshit. Because I was there. We couldn't use the main airport, which was half hour, 40 minutes from our base that had got set up there. And we had to go negotiate with the Russians.

Because the Russians sent an, I think it was an airborne brigade. Anyway, these were monstrous dudes. Like these were Neanderthal looking Slavic Russian dudes who were just, they were your Dolf Lundrum movie lookalikes, all these guys. We show up. They are. They're harder they fall.

Yeah. Well, they were some pretty big dudes. But anyway, you show up to this thing. And, uh, they were in, And they weren't supposed to be there. They've been told not to come there. They show up anyway, take over the airport and had to get negotiated out. Like, hey, we'd actually like to use the runway and stuff.

It's like the only one. And they worked out a deal and stuff. Did some drank some booze and I think our. Trade some smokes. Well, our, uh, our commander got fired over it there. What's his name? Uh, fuck. I can't remember his name because he was drinking with them.

And like he got dined out by, by some other senior officer. that they didn't like them said, hey, there's no drinking policy here, whatever the hell it was. And he's drinking with the Russians. Well, you had to work a deal. These cultures, these places. Everything happens over a bottom of a box. Every business deal in Canada is done over a, you know, done over a drinky poo and a dinner. You know, like, that's how you, that's how people build relationships and do shit.

You think soldiers are not going to throw a few back when you're dealing with the Russians? Like, come on. But it's, uh, anyway, the Russians are going to do whatever the, whatever they want to do. They just are. They always have and they always will. They're in Iran. We have Americans always in Israel. Always.

I mean, that's just the way it is. Look at bricks happening right now. And the reason that there's Americans there is because they've got this air defense system there. Now, it doesn't mean Israelis can't run their air defense system. I'm sure they can fucking figure it out. But there's also like if one of those guys does get killed, it does give the opportunity for the United States if they feel they want to get in

to be like they're killing American soldiers there's that there's that part of it too they'll they'll but doesn't mean they will right but they want the option you know it's very hard to get it's very hard to get punched in the face if you're not even on the ice they always have somebody like ready to throw on the ice wherever they it's a shitty thing but but people do get killed for those reasons yeah we've been in like when I was in Croatia

Yeah. The United Nations would show up into a village and there'd be reporters also there. The Croats would shell their own fucking village and blame it on the Serbs. But they would like, you know, you can look at where a round lands. By the splash, you can shoot a bearing backwards and figure out the distance of the size of that round. Okay, this would be a five kilometer max distance. And you could figure out where the base plate would be within a bearing line. line. We would drive that area and we'd find like a mortar team. Like we knew it was fucking

croats shooting at at their own people. Everywhere that happened. But that way it would be on the fucking news that the Croats were killed by the Serbs and innocent civilians. But they're killing their own fucking people right. Yeah. Like it's it's it's war gets really shitty fast. Really shitty fast. And you know the one of the main differences between like a conflict back then in the 90s and well look in Syria. They gasped um what's his name? Um, Al-Assad gas tons of his own people. Yeah,

gas his own people to say it was ISIS. Yeah. Like, just terrible shit. Yeah. And not that ISIS isn't bad enough already, but like to, to,

to, to go after more of your own people just to, yeah, that's what happens. Everybody does it. And this is a horrible part of work. But like, imagine,

so you, you can go on telegram and watch the war in real time, basically the, the Ukraine, uh, uh, Russia war.

You can kind of do the same with the Israeli, conflict too because a lot of the that was pretty cool that drone video going into that room after that dude got wounded hey which one no i haven't seen that one yet okay so that last leader just got killed oh him yeah tank round yeah he was wounded sitting in a chair and he sent a drone in to see who was in the building and he threw a hunk of wood at the at the drone then they fired machine gun rounds in there they had a machine gun and he and uh thermoscope and they killed him with with you got he died from uh gunshot wound yeah he had

Oh, did he ever? So, uh, is that all on telegram? Is that where that is? Oh, yeah, it's all over telegram, yeah. Because everybody's got a phone. Everybody has a phone. So it's just, oh, no, that was Israeli. I know.

I'm just saying, though, the difference, every soldier has a phone. If you don't even need reporters in the battle, you barely see a real reporter in a battlefield now. When we were there. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah, is right. They're just, but when we were in 06, in the early part of the tour in 06, we had reporters embedded almost constantly with every platoon, every other platoon.

They wanted the story. and tell the story. I got to give a shout out to Chrissy Blatchford though. Oh, her, yeah. She was the real deal. Yeah, but I hated her. Like, we were the first platoon to roll out. Like, and I went up to, uh, to Morton, my platoon commander.

I'm like, you guys fucking crazy. Like we're taking a female reporter. She's like 50, you know, and like we're, we're the first guys to go out. Who knows what's going to happen? Of course, at night, we got, uh, we had a lab rollover. So we're dealing with. with a rollover lab now we got to get it back up on its feet and americans are pushing us hard to split the platoon and push forward to combat i'm like don't fucking do it like we got to get this

lab back up and we'll and we should stick together right course they split the fucking baton 10 minutes later they get down the road uh like my lab got blowing up i stayed back with mackay though anyways blatchford was in the back of that with with i and green and um And thank fuck that I found a seat container full of blast blankets and had all the blast blankets in the vehicle or the driver would have got fucking wounded. Anyways, that's a different story. But then we did a big fucking march. Like we went looking for these guys, right? And we're out for three days, like, hopping through the mountains.

And she fucking rocked it. She had absolutely no problems with it. She smoked a lot, but she was a marathon runner. She was in great shape. And after that, I remember I was on the machine gun at the O.P. And she came up and I apologized to her. I said, you know, I feel sorry for, you know, telling you shouldn't fucking come and that you're a woman. And I was a total misogynist at the, you know, then.

But then we became friends. And I had no problem with her. When was it Mekkeka that got shot in the throat? When we're in when we're in Pajway. And fucking she shit her pants. She was right. She somehow, she got right up with the front front platoon. I don't, I don't know.

I think the guy was in C company. Was it Makeka? The reservist? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Beneka. Oh, Beneca. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So he, like, his blood was squirting all over. She shit her fucking pants. And then after that, she kind of stayed back with an attack. Yeah, she didn't go back to. She didn't come back up to the front. But we had Lisa Leflam with us for a chunk, too. And by that point,

tour the reporters were not coming out with us because it was like you were getting blown up or shot up and it was all fun for them in the beginning when it was like oh this is new and nothing's going to happen it's going to be like all the other times Canada's been somewhere and then all we're going into contact all the time or getting blown up all the time well when we had that 500 pound bomb drop on us we had an actual military uh combat camera yeah so the hellic uh we did a nine line for adams the fucking helicopter lands the uh Adams gets on the helicopter and so did the fucking photographer he's like I'm fucking out of that combat photographer we were about to be earlier in the day the same guy this he was French little skinny kid and uh we're in heavy heavy contact like we're about to get overrun like things have gone horribly horribly wrong and it's getting bad and I think it was my guy Ben Emory looks him and says get your fucking rifle over the wall and get shooting get shooting now and this combat camera guy who's basically a civilian and in a uniform.

He's a army guy, but not an infantry guy. He does like a jihadi unload. But did his gun actually work? He had an old C, the old C7's hard stuff. You know what they did in C& or in CAF? No.

Because they were shooting and in CAF, there was more Canadians being shot inside of the wire than outside because they, they never fucking did any proper gun drills. And instead of like doing a time out, let's retrain you guys. know how to like properly unload your weapons and such they told them to take their firing pins

out of no his his he does he did so they wouldn't fucking shoot each other and the fucking well he mag dumped and then uh that was it he just hit behind the wall so we're like probably only had one mag with he might have i don't even know but he he mag dumped and we're like later in the day after you guys got blown up we're like we're at the combat there somebody's like he got on the chopper out of here he said no i'm not doing this his footage however was immediately he because he had about a day's the footage was immediately back on the news here in Canada of us in combat, which was pretty wild. But anyway, we had Lisa LeFlem embedded with us up at the Red Devil in for quite a while.

And we all kind of thought the same thing. Like she was big, we all knew who she was, big CTV news anchor, but, or yeah, it was CTV? It was CTV, I think. And we're like, holy shit. Like, we're going up into the belly button into those mountains on foot here for like three days. That's, that's going to be a hump, hunting Taliban. And we're like, how is this?

reporter going to manage with that weight going up the hill. And worse, she had a camera guy who was in his 50s and not in shape. And he, she did very well. She had no problem. He was absolutely junk. Yeah.

That's her. She's a good looking woman. She was a fine looking woman back then. Yeah. She had Dave Pickett. See, see, CTV.

She was a, Dickett. Pickett was in France. Chief anchor and senior editor of CTV National News. Yeah. Yeah, she was with us for a good chunk of time over there. And she, I will say this about her. Her and Christy Blatchford were the only two journalists, reporters, whatever you want to call them, that didn't try to fuck us over.

Yeah, no, Blatchford was awesome. She was, yeah. She was a very good supporter. Every other one of them worked actively to fuck us over. She wrote a book, 15. What do you mean? What do you mean worked? How does a civilian reporter try and screw you over?

So what they try and do is they try to armchair a quarterback, everything. thing that's happening and give their input like you might be their civilian reporter they don't give a shit they want to be the news they don't want to report the news and so instead of like Lisa I give Blatch Bladford's wasn't like that no she wasn't and in fact just she wrote a book called 15 days and all the money from that book went to all the soldiers that got killed on our tour yeah like yeah she was she wasn't like that and to everything I know neither was Lisa LaFlem she was very much just telling the story which is what you're supposed to do is just cover the story they wanted to be part these other

reporters that we experienced wanted to be part of the story and if we were doing a a surah like a low-level village Shura like which is just a meeting with the locals find it when they saw the Taliban last and what could we do to help you when you're heart and mine all is bullshit that doesn't work these reporters would try to become part of the discussion discussion oh and you're like my guy you're fucking here just to to witness and record, shut your mouth. Like you aren't, you know.

I'm going to rewind this. I'm going to keep coming back to this. You can't rewind it yet though, because we got to talk about Afghanistan or should we do this after you rewind? Well, no, I'm just keep,

not rewind. I'm going to keep circling back to it because one of the things I, like, I just, it's like, I always bring up with you guys hockey, right?

I'm like, how do you explain to someone who's never played hockey, but the real world implications are going to, align with real world hockey, some of the things you've learned. Now, obviously I'm talking about the military because you two have done things that most Canadians have not. Probably 99 point something percent have not. Even within the military sphere, probably 97 percent of them didn't do. Okay. So that's how

small a company you're in. So I look at it and I go, Rhythm of Life. And I go, how do you convey to Zuffilians who I've never been shot at. I have no idea what that even entails. I don't want to go there. I'm not really interested in that. But you see what's happening and you see the pattern of life. You see different things starting to play out

and you're like, I can hope all day long that, you know, let's just go, best case scenario. Trump gets elected, folks. And within six months, he has everything calmed down. The border shut. All the stuff they're stirring up in the media doesn't come to be.

Immigration slows down. no terrorist attacks happen. None of that stuff, just wipe it all. We go back to common sense on the green agenda and we don't have brownouts and, you know, everybody's happy for another 50 years. Let's just play that scenario. Yeah, yeah, that's great. How do you explain to a civilian rhythm of life so that they just, you know, it's like introductory level to that? Because I go back to the book I was talking about, there's no way anyone's going to understand getting shot at or any of that.

or any of that. Well, it's like prepared for the winter, right? Like, so winter time's coming. You got to, like, drain all your garden hoses. You got to make sure, like, your outside valves are turned off. Your eaves troughs are clean. You know, like, you're just doing a little bit of preventive maintenance. You know, an ounce of cure is better than a pound of putting winter tires on.

Like, doing all, doing all your little things. That's, if you can get that into your routine in life, like, okay I got my my weapons here I got lots of ammunition for it I got some I got like three months where the food stocked up somewhere you know I'm in touch with my community I'm still valued in my community I can still do certain things as a as a team if something does go wrong but you don't have to fucking dread and and like chew your fingernails off because yeah that's where most people start with it right or if you if well if I may yeah when lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray said it I was just like, I am unprepared. That's exactly how I felt like I don't even know how to explain it. Like it's, it's, you know, uh, you call them paper targets. I'm like, I felt like a paper target. I felt like a bird without my feathers on.

I was just like, I feel really naked right now. I'm vulnerable. And in turn, my family, I feel like if things like that start to happen, I'm like, I don't feel that way because you got somebody to protect and take care of. Yeah. Like if it was just you, I'm not just, you would feel differently. Yes. But, but as a man, you know, you got to.

take care of your wife and your kids. And that adds some stress, right? Like, because you feel like you're letting them down. But we, we talked about this in very recent last couple weeks. Um, this kind of thing.

And the thing that puts your mind the most at ease and this why I'm fairly at ease about things, regardless of what I'm seeing is the trend. I can't stop what is. I'm not going to try and stop what trend. I can't stop it. I'm not going to throw energy wasted at something trying to stop what's coming, whatever is coming, whatever the. thing is that might be coming potentially out there. All I can do is have the resources available

to me to look after the people I love, the community I'm a part of. Control what you can control. Control what I can control. Maintain a skill set that has suffered zero fade, if I may, and make sure that when you're facing down a giant, you're the guy with a sling and a steady pile of rocks. Hey. And that's all you can do. Good hockey analogy, right? Like you got like Samanko's skating around out on the ice and you got to be out there, you can't control what Samako's going to do, but you can give yourself time and space, right, so that if you're trying something, you've got an option. So that's basically what you're doing is you're seeing what's in front of you, you're giving yourself some time and space, you got your head up, you're not crying about it, you're not, you know,

you're just, you're just out there and doing what you can do on the battlefield or on the hockey ice to, you know, achieve a win for your team. That's how you have to, right? So you're, you know, Your win is taking care of your family. When people, when people will ask me, well, what should I be doing? I'm like, well, you should be cleaning up your diet, getting into some sort of physical shape that's better than you were today. Get just do a little bit more than you were today. Something. Get in a routine that's a little bit better.

And you know what? What's wrong with that? Like even if you never have to like use any of it. Yeah. But fitness for defending yourself, you're actually keeping yourself healthier. You're going to live longer. And you're showing your kids that. exercise is a good thing for them to be doing just just to do it.

And the rest of it, honestly, the rest of it is, we've talked about this, um, is just a little at a time. It's, if it's a couple of things here and there, a couple steps here in there that puts your minds, your mind at ease. That's where you start to be like, stop chewing your fingernails. Okay, I've see this pattern in life. I'm still going to carry on. I'm going to rhythm normally because I know if something happens.

I'm as well prepared as I can be. Chuck, it's like that camera man that came out with you guys, right? Like so, so that cameraman had a great life in Canada, you know, and then all of a sudden he's in the fucking mountains of Afghanistan, and up and through the belly button. Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure he was fucking hurting. He suffered horribly. Right, so, so like.

Dave Pickett, be used to him. So, so like if you're, if there's something that, if there's something that's in the future, might as well do it now. Well, he was freaking the camera guy. We were getting ready to hump the mountain. threw a grenade at him. So we were, we were all at the Red Devil in getting ready to go.

And Dave Pickett was, of course, helping Lisa because, you know him. He likes that anyway. So I, we were, me and Ben and my boys were helping the camera guy get ready, like what to hump up the hill. And this guy is just, he's 50 something out of shape, smoker, just, just junk. And he's like, well, what else do I need to put in here? I feel like I'm carrying everything in the world in here. And I pull the grenade. to my pouch, which it was pinned.

And I shouldn't have done it because he freaked out. But I'm like, oh, you need one of these. And I underhanded a, a frag at him. And he did the whole thing. And the boys were laughing and I was laughing. I got in shit for it. But it was funny to me. Only thing you never.

He didn't find it funny. So he didn't take the grenade. I took the grenade back. But anyway, all you can do. Thank God you did, because I got video of you guys in that grenade fight with the Taliban. They're like literally on a, like a wall like this sick. And they're throwing grenades back and forth to each other.

And guess what? Our grenades weren't blowing up. A lot of them weren't blowing up. Yeah. So we ran through that compound after that. And there's like fucking 30 grenades laying on the ground that, that I haven't blown up. We got it in the early part of the tour, we got a bad lot of grenades, like a bad run of grenades. And probably a third of them weren't popping.

So, so that adds a level of fucking stress. You're going to you're waiting for the. Boom four or five seconds after. And there's like, no, kaboboom. Throw another one. Throw another one. Hope that one goes and get the other one to pop too, hopefully, if you're lucky. But, yeah, it has a whole other.

Especially when you go to clear the room and dude's still in there fucking whiffing over your shoulder with his AK. And you see, you know, once you clear him down, you still see this little green olive drop ball in the corner. And you're like, and the thing is they had yellow writing on it, right? It said really fucking your eye catches out. It's like, oh, you spot grenades real quick. Yeah. One of the, one of the things with the rhythm of life. right as I go COVID taught me this and I wish I wish I would have known before but

what can you do you didn't know right is if I had been doing what I'm doing now I would have saw COVID coming and I would have been unable to adjust and I truly believe that for everyone listening to we would have been able to adjust lots of you did lots of you knew and you found me along the way there was a ton of us I had no idea what the hell was going on it's it's kind of my my story of Ottawa the spiritual side of my life where I had no idea what was coming and I ran headlong into it and for people who who you know have faith they're just like yeah that's part of life and for me that was not the case that's why I talk about all these things that's why I do the cornerstone form it's to like peer into the future and go well what's

coming are we actually going to see brownouts are we actually going to see a terrorist attack is any of that going to happen hey and how is it going to affect life on a big scale small scale and then for myself and all the other men out there because I know that feeling of like helplessness like I haven't done enough and then I chuckle up myself because I'm like I feel like I've been running a marathon but I realize this is going to go on for the rest of my life yeah that feeling of trying to protect your kid when he's going November 5th or he's going to be in the states like Lord willing someday my kid gets the opportunity to go play hockey somewhere and I'm going to have the same fears in a completely hopefully different sense but in the same

realm you know what though you brought up Ottawa and I don't know if he've ever done this before and we're pretty good Canadians. We're pretty proud. I'm so proud of all those people that went to Ottawa and stood up for our rights. So here's a cheers to them men and women. Thank you. Canada still has people that will stand up

and I'm proud of that. I think it's what's interesting. So the first maybe very early phases of COVID, and I hate bringing up COVID, but it is, it is a, It's in Canada, it's really the only pattern of life people have experienced and have really experienced. In the first couple weeks when we're getting all those reports from Europe, like, I remember seeing one report like 76,000 people in Italy have died this week or so. We're seeing all these fantastical numbers.

And of course, nothing had really hit Canada. And we're starting to see like three people in Alberta have been tested for COVID. And we're like, oh, I'm, you know, like, what the fuck is this? This is the bad? Like we just saw all these videos in China of like them going around spraying God knows what, you know, on buildings and streets. More COVID. More COVID probably. Extra COVID. The deep, the good COVID. The gluten free COVID. Whatever. Get rid of all these old people are costing us money. And then I, I took a pause because here I am thinking, oh shit, maybe this is it. This could be it. And then I started to reach out to some army buddies like, hey, are you guys doing any prep work for this. Like, you know, we do. There's a lot of stuff that army guys do that are. We didn't Regina. Yeah, well.

I got stood up. The, well, they stood everybody up and then sent everybody home. Like, guys didn't show up to work for months. And I'm thinking, like, they literally got sent home for months. We, we were prepping to set up a field hospital. Yeah. I took, I was. Inner Regina.

Yep. I was acting a sergeant or a section commander for a group of guys. So all of us ended up in a room like all this, like the sergeants and myself and the officer that were going to do all this. And I can already see the writing on the wall And I'm like, okay, guys, I know you guys I haven't been in Bosnia or Croatia or nothing like that But I'm just telling you right now Like from what I've seen in civil war situations

If the government wants me to stand with them Or stand with the people I'm telling you right now I'm standing with the people Like here's my line in the sand And if they ask us to do anything against who Like a fellow Canadian I'm not doing it Mm-hmm.

So I just want you to know that right now. And you guys might want to fucking think about that too before. Yeah. Like, you never know where that would have went. But every, you could have heard a pin drop. Oh, yeah. All of a sudden,

everybody's like, oh, fuck. Like, it's a decision point. You just never really know what's going on. And it's something that's war-gamed, or used to be war-gamed in our platoon lines when you're cleaning rifles or fucking stoves for the 30th time.

You're like, well, if this happen, what would we do? Well, if aliens came, what would we do? How would you rob this bank? How would you rob that armor car? That's what Army infantry guys do is. playing all the worst heists in the world and combat. We talked about, uh, where do you think all the girls will be tonight?

What bar are we going to? Oh, that was a given. But the, where was I going with all that? The, um, pattern of life stuff. If you're, the army guys that I was reaching out to, they're like, no dude, I'm at home. Like they're, we're not doing shit. I've been, we're not going back for months. And I started to go, they would be the first people I would send a defend infrastructure to

back up hospitals. I'm not, now some people did. Some medical personnel did. But where if we were in a crisis, and I'm talking, uh, yeah, the nurses and doctors got deployed for sure. Yeah, 100%. But you'd watch a movie like, uh, is it with Matt Damon? Is it contamination?

Is that the one one? Contagion. Contagion. That's the one story. And you watch how quickly a real actual killing virus will spread and what it will do and then the infrastructure of the military being deployed at hard point checkpoints and grocery stores. Well, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's talk about.

talk about a real thing like that's a movie like so let's look at what let's look what happened with the Ebola right so like when Ebola was was like running rampant it was that in free town or what they they basically had like a corridor around the neighborhood yeah and the army was there and anybody tried to fucking get out of that area even if they they got shot yeah if they weren't infected or whatever they got shot so they trapped they just said okay anybody in this area fuck you're in there until it's all over. And they would send in people with all the hazmat suits on and shit.

But you know who we used in Canada instead of the army? The hostess at the earls you were going to to check your ID. Your quarantine card. So a couple things come to mind. One is rhythm of life, that type of thing. One of the things on the civilian side of the world is I feel like, you know,

when you guys are talking about being deployed and you're going out to the belly button of the mountains, it's like things are going to start happening real fast because you're walking right into. to it. Yeah. Like, we are going. We're actively going to hunt it, yes.

I wish I would have that thought when I went to Ottawa, because you're actively going into it. Your mindset has to be that. Right. I was so fucking proud that you did go. I remember talking to you on the phone and you're like, I'm going. Like, you're like, you're on the road fucking driving there. But that's like active.

When you're just sitting at home, it takes time. And I'm trying to wrap my head around this because, you know, like, one of the things they talk about is like what's going on in Britain. It's going to take time. but you'll eventually see it here in Canada. Oh, totally. Right? They just arrested a guy for praying.

For praying. But silently in his head. Yes. Silently praying. In a zone. He got charged for that. Yeah, he's doing three years. He's going to do three years in jail.

Is it three years? Yes, for saying a prayer in his head. And it was inside of a zone around a fucking where they do abortions. Apparently there's like if you're on this side of the sidewalk, you can yell and scream all you want. But what's your, like, you're like, you're like, in front of the building. You can't say nothing. You're not allowed to think.

And this guy said a prayer in his head silently and fuck it. He doesn't get any more George Orwell's 1984 than that. Oh, like that doesn't scare the shit out of you. Yeah. Well, we, it's, look at what they're doing to Jordan Peterson. He was an Army vet too. Army vet convicted for praying silently. How many, how many years is you getting?

I'm just looking at that right now. It says, a man charged for praying silently in an abortion buffer zone in a Bournemouth has been found guilty in a shock ruling by Bornemo. I hope I'm probably torturing this name. Bournemouth magistrate's court. He charged Adam Smith-Connor, a military veteran, father of two, following an interrogation by an officer, the nature of his prayers, where he stopped to pray for a few minutes near an abortion facility, November, 2022. The court sentenced Smith to a conditional discharge in order him to pay prosecution costs of 9,000 euros. Okay.

So it is in three years. So what happens if he doesn't pay the money? Well, then I assume that, yeah, it doesn't say. But I mean... He'll do time. I apologize. I thought they said he was going to... No, well, that's why I look it up, right?

It'd either be pay the fine or do the time. You need a Jamie from Rogan. Hey, hey, listen, I'm fucking right here. And I told him last time. No, a smart one. I am smart. I said, number one, take the wheels off. these chairs and don't make them swivel.

It's true. We will get that taken care of here at some point, right? We got big things coming for the studio. Lots of, lots of good ideas and lots of things that... I kind of like the way you got laid out now. I do like your ideas. I liked your original idea, but your second idea would work, too. Okay.

I'm going to go back to this thought, though, of the speed of which it happens when you go into a danger, right? I always, I talk about, one of the things I learned about Ottawa is now when I leave my home base, which is Lloydminster, and it's not a sleepy town, but at the same time, it isn't, you know, like, unless something's really happening, you know, it's just, it's just life is normal. But when I move away from here, spiritually, I feel like things are going to attack you. And if you walk into, I don't know, Kelowna and they're having the giant forest fire,

that can happen too. I think that's something to wrap your head around when you're talking about rhythm of life. It's like, listen, you're getting news from the entire world. Things are happening all the freaking time. It's overload, yeah. And they could bomb the crap out of Iran tomorrow. Yeah. They could use a nuclear bomb. Could be doing it right now. Could be doing it right now. And we wouldn't know over here. We'll hear about it. And certainly there will be things that happen after that. And one of the blessings we have about being in Canada specifically is you should be able to see it coming before it ever gets close, right? There should be time. Maybe.

Well, and that's what I'm talking about. Like, we got immigrants that are going to be flooding the border if we're not prepared for that now. Well, but I'm like, how do you even prepare for that? Because November 5th is like literally around the corner. Well, that's where you got to start phoning your MP and writing letters to your MP saying, hey, listen, I don't want the RCMP carrying luggage across the fucking border this winter. When Trump's carrying everybody out, I want you guys to fucking not let anybody into Canada, unless they're legal citizens.

And if people don't reach out to their to their MPs, then fucking the wheels are going to fall off the wagon. Like it's, it's up to us to voice our concerns now to the federal government and provincial government say, hey, start fucking wargaming this because this is a possibility. This is pivotal. And I think historically the election November 5th is going to have an importance that's going to ripple across the world

that people really don't fathom right now. I think they do. I think instinctively and atmospherically, people can feel. The Democrats are going to fucking say it was stolen. There's going to be fighting. There's going to be riots. There's going to be fucking shit. The shit will go down.

But that ripple also, we have our own coming up in, what, next year, I guess. Oh, fuck, it's going to be before then. I don't know. I don't. He won't go. Yeah. I can't agree with Chuck. But what's this scandal that's going on and with Trudeau's not giving up the

unredacted stuff? Nothing's happening in government. Today, the liberals are telling Trudeau to fuck right off. Yes. You're not wrong. There's shit going on there right now. He will not go. Well, the party will tell him to go.

Like, if they say we have a non-confidence as you as our leader, then they can kick him out. And maybe they will. Maybe and hopefully they will. will. I kind of want him to hold on for this next year just so that he can, because this, well, nobody's going to jump into his place and win the liberals. No, I agree. No, no, not at this point. The quicker he gets out, the less money we spend. So the quicker we can get back on our feet. So we can all agree. Justin Trudeau has very strong ties to the Weft, right? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. George Soros is Weft, yeah.

So you look at that and you go, why aren't they, why aren't they, why aren't they, why aren't they booting them all. Why aren't they? He's a useless dummy for them for now. They don't, yeah, I know, but they're destroying what they're trying to build.

The destruction is what they're trying to do. Maybe that's why the liberals are fucking going to tell him he's got to go today because that's the message. And it could be. But in my opinion, the destruction is the goal. Because once you destroy a road, the cultures that built a place,

it doesn't matter that it's Canada. They do this wherever they put their fingerprint. South American countries they do it there too, France. You look at wherever they put that wef fingerprint on, that thumb. It's not to rebuild something in some better way. It is the destruction of the trampling down of and the watering down of. And that's the goal because that's how they maintain the, this very easy influence. They don't every, and I've said this for years, everybody, because you always have

people approach or question about the UN army they're going to occupy us with the UN army listen folks there's no fucking UN army there's no standing UN army somewhere because it has to be we send soldiers to represent they have this they have this delusional illusion that there's this standing force of some mythical vanilla well I don't even think it's I think it's in movies even well we we in in when we trained in Cornwallis we would bring African nations like their officer corps into Canada

and train them how to be a UN like so they could do peacekeeping missions so we taught them like rule of law like shit that they don't have in their own country so we would and tell me why to fuck are you in the UN when you're creating atrocities in your own fucking country

and then you're going to tell other people in the world and send your soldiers over there to fucking police them It's a horrible idea. It's just, the UN is so fucked up with all the fucking countries they brought in that shouldn't even be in there. But they, my point is. But we would, but, but just getting back to the UN army. And so that, that's how people got mistaken about it is like, because they would see fucking guys with the UN and we would train UN soldiers in Canada.

But it was just for rule of law reasons and how to actually conduct yourself on a UN mission. Honestly, the best thing that could happen to the regular people in any country is they send the UN. because then you have a focus point to to fight. They're not, that isn't what's going to happen because that it just isn't the thing. It's not a real thing. They don't need that to be a thing

because they don't need it. They have local law enforcement, which we've seen through COVID, are more than willing to enforce the most draconian wrong stances and, you know, policies possible that have done more harm to the society than anything has done in the last hundred years.

in my opinion. But Chuck, you know why they do it? Because they all got a mortgage. Oh, 100%. And they all want their fucking pension. Yeah.

So that's the problem with our military and our police and everything else. I get it. I understand that. If you don't fucking pull the party line, you're not going to get promoted and you're not going to get a good pension. And you might get fucking removed from the force. Yeah. And now how are you going to pay your fucking bills?

Yeah. Like they're like our system is set up so the government's got control over the police and got control over the police and got control over the military. military. It's there and that's the issue. So when they want a general air to send the army into Ottawa. Yeah. General Air said the and I'm just thinking this to myself two things. Number one, it doesn't fit the criteria for emergency measures. Number two, my soldiers aren't going to support no because their mom and dads are standing on the fucking line in Ottawa. Yeah. So they're not going to do that. So guess what the army wants to do now? They want to bring.

bringing in 25,000 immigrants that are not Canadian citizens that will turn their guns on us. So that's another thing. That's another fucking thing we've got to worry about and start writing our MPs about. That is a thing. It's it's they didn't know. This is this troubling thing, right? You can see all these things happening almost simultaneously, right? If we don't go to World War III, then you go, well, they got Bill C290.

that could put us in a different type of purgatory. And if they don't get that one through, they got Bill C63. And if they, you know what, if they don't even do that, now they're going to reduce what it takes to become a military officer,

so they take it down a pull. They're going to put in all the DEI stuff. Oh, and wait, we're going to bring in all these foreign people to be a part of our military. And you're like, you can see it all happening at all at once. Yep.

But it's, you know, I'm going to keep harping on. But you keep saying, preparing, like, up doing pushups or whatever. well notifying the government like writing your MLA is an active way and you know what that's a lawyer Lisa Meyron at least you're doing something and it makes you feel good that you're doing it and even even as writing them and all that doing all that sure it may have an impact I guess um have one on your show you have a voice here you have a big audience here you have a have a senator on have somebody on that you can talk to and say this is what I'm hearing from

regular normal Canadians, not the people in the bubble, you know, the, that echo, that, that so going back to the COVID stuff with the hockey, sask, um, we wrote, uh, Mo. And I, I was very fortunate, a very good friend of mine, smart as fuck. She helped me, like, put my, my big jumble into like sentence form where it made sense. And, and like, yeah, I got a letter back. Did he write it? I hope so. but you know things Mo did move on certain things hockey SaaS did move on certain things and and a group of us were very vocal and we fucking phoned and we wrote letters so it does work and I know there's a percentage of people out there listening right now because I get this question all the time or this this this statement this this counterposit about uh well chuck we're not

going to fix anything by voting and I always always ask always ask very pointedly specifically Specifically, other than voting, what do you think you're going to do or we're going to do to change things? Just if the vote isn't going, tell me specifically. And they always kind of go, well, because in their head, they're thinking, we're going to go to hot guns right away. And we're going to fuck this government right out of its, out of parliament. We're going to, we're going to, then we're going to run a show. I'm like, I've, you know where they sent guys like us over the years was to places where they tried that. That isn't, we don't want that.

That is the last thing. That's the last resort. That isn't even, shouldn't even be considered. So, so funny thing you're talking about not voting. None of them have a, none of them have a, uh, a solution when I'm like, well, tell me what not voting looks like. Tell me what you're not voting scheme. Can I, can I tell you a funny story, but it's not funny. A terrible story about not voting.

Do you know why the NDP are so, uh, they get all the, uh, like urban seats is because, um, conservative voters don't vote. There's enough conservative voters in the cities of Saskatoon, Regina, Estaband, Moose Jaw, then if they actually showed up and voted, the conservative member that was running for that, so he would actually get elected. So that's the fucking terrible thing in what you just said. Then people say, oh, my vote ain't going to matter.

Yes, it fucking matters. And lots of blood has been shed over that. So that you can have. You don't fucking boat. Well, I'll tell you what, this, we're, we've reached such a pivotal point in our history and such a degraded point in our, you know, we all have a decent lifestyle, I think, but it is, our dollars aren't worth shit. I could go spend a bucket something. That's not a dollar anymore. This is not what, you know, this is going up.

Yeah, gold is going up. This is 40 bucks. And people. Yeah, he's pointing at the one ounce silver coin. And people should pay attention to that. If you don't, if you, you don't have to even have. any of this. You should.

You damn well should. Head over to the Silver Gold Bull. Silver Gold Ball. Selfish promotion, but I mean, do that and mention me and you're going to save yourself money and all that good stuff anyways. You should. Even if it's not a ton, you should just have a little bit. I have a nice little.

It makes you feel better at night. Dude, like I said at the cornerstone, I pull out my little, my little hoard, like the little dragon hoard I have and I run my little fingers through it and I play with it and I listen to it, tinkle. and that gives me some solace because if something goes wrong, this might this might buy me a tank of gas.

This might buy me whatever. You already know that I'm not going to mention everything on air but like on my side of things I've slowly started to do just a little things. Like the simplest one, the simplest one in Lloyd is we just built raised garden bets.

I was against having a garden five years ago. I was just like, why do I need to garden? And I, you know, it's just an extra thing. Do you got your seeds for next year? We've got partial. I would say I probably need to go buy some. Hey, garden girl, you listening?

Garden girl, I'm going to, I should give you a call. Have your seeds. Like you should already have like a year or two years of seeds already. So, so my thing is, is I'm in. There is a lot of things that I should have already had that I do not have. And I'm just saying, well, we built. garden beds right and the cool thing about it with the kids is they love it I never I didn't realize it right as a parent that's something that I didn't understand that kids are like just

wowed by the fact that things grow out of the ground well and they can really freaking yeah yeah they actually see it go yeah and it's fast the thing about a garden is a lot of that stuff I mean maybe not certain things potatoes or whatever but a lot of stuff comes in so quickly and the kids like that's that just happened it's not fast for an eight year old no they're like fuck no but an eight-year-old is going to go away, watches a week's worth of TV shows, come back out and say, holy,

we have, stuff is here. Well, actually, little things, you know, like with the eight-year-old, Shea,

he, playing board games with kids has been, it's been tough. Yeah. They just mean, you've got to have patience. Anyways, we play a game of sequence,

right, where you got to get five in a row? A little bugger beat me twice in a row. Like, and Mel goes, were you trying? I'm like, oh,

I was trying. And then she laughed, Me, she's like, oh, yeah, you were trying it. I'm like, I was trying. I can tell you a funny story about my eight-year-old after you. Well, I mean, I was just, you know, like little things don't have to be going on buying 10,000 rounds, and then a year's supply of seed and eight months of water. And it could be little things.

And to me, one of the things that really proved well in my hockey career is I could see where the game was going. And I'm like, how the heck did I ever get taught that? I've been racking my brain But as a young kid my brothers I always had to play their games And their games were cards And board games that had strategy to them

Which means you have to think ahead Yeah And I'm like oh it could be as simple as that Anyways sequence Well that's why I teach chess to officers It's it's all about the strategy Right like that's why chess was developed That teach you how to per

Like think ahead on the battlefield And like that's And realize He's giving up a pawn, although it sucks. If you win the larger game, that's what you're after. So going back to my nine-year-old, he's not eight anymore, just turn nine. Anyways, he wanted a Bible. He wants to read the Bible.

So I bought him a kid's Bible and like this little light that kind of so at night he like reads the Bible. So I come into his room. We're going to say the Lord's prayer. And he's like reading and he kind of puts a book down. And like he's got blue eyes and blonde. hair and he looks at me, he goes, dad, why did Jesus have brown hair and brown eyes?

I'm like, well, he's from Middle East and Middle Eastern people have, that's their skin tone and that's color hair they had. And we're Scandinavian, we're from northern part of the world and we have blonde hair and blue eyes. And he just flips his book back up and stretch reading again. I was just like, that's the answer I needed. I'm carrying on.

And it's just like, they're so cute like with their, Well, there's sponges, man. They suck it all up. But, but like the questions they think of is, it's hilarious. But you were, to go back to your pattern, we're going to, this is what the show is about the pattern of life. Well, I want to talk about it. No, no, no, no. And it should be, you know what?

That's a great focus to have because we kind of dance around it sometimes. But the, that'd be a good t-shirt actually, pattern life. Rhythm normally. The, um, pattern or rhythm? Either one. Pattern, patterns of life is what you're looking for. Yes. And then you have to rhythm normally.

Rhythm normally or you're going to go nuts. Yeah. But so. again, people will ask me because of the background and whatever and some stuff they know. They'll be like, what do I want to do this, but I don't, I only have X amount of money. And I want to, I'm like, look, if, and I was listening to Jocko Wilnick and David Goggins and I just feel so far. Look, if you want to live getting up at 2.30 in the morning to do, that's on you. That's great.

I've talked with that before. It doesn't cause anything to a push up. It doesn't know. Um, but these, what people will wrap their head around is, you know, if I'm so far behind, I'm, I'm so far behind now, I'll never get to where I need to be. And you have to start. All you have to do is start. If it's one day at the range of month or, or if it's, uh, the garden, if it's picking stuff up, if it's cleaning up your diet, if it's whatever it is. Look, I had to, I had to hard assess myself about six months ago.

I was like, dude, like, you're not. You're not looking the same way you're used to. You're not taking working out as seriously as I was showing up to the gym. I wasn't really moving weights around. You know, I wasn't eating as clean as I should be, especially I'm 52. I have to be, you know, I don't want to be the winded soldier, the winded warrior. I need to be the actual, you know, be able to defend what's mine. And I never want to be the guy that when I walk in room, like, look at this old tubby old fat veteran.

I don't want that. I want to, I need to be what I. once was I need to in for a lot of different reasons but I think the way the world is going and I started to catch those you know signs a few about six months ago with a few different things happening yeah and I've always noticed the patterns of life don't get me wrong but something that was mysterically changed and I don't know what it was it was it was probably I had to take another hard assessment start actually taking working out seriously again start actually eating clean again

Cleaner. It doesn't mean I'm not going to have a few beer here. I'm not going to do that either. I'm not that. But, um, well, but once again, that's,

that's, that's, so we all think, you know, like what I'm trying to, like, train myself on. Mm.

Because of where I sit and the conversations I have. I think in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, sense of it's, it's,

a, a hundred meter dash, a 25 meter dash. It's not, And what I'm learning is sitting in this chair, you're so ahead of the curve at times that it's actually, it's actually like six months out. Maybe it's two years out. And you know, in the case of Ben Davidson this week, he's talking about 2035. And it could be.

Martin Armstrong is talking about 2032. It could be this afternoon. It could be. It could be. It could be. And so, but what do you? It's the, it's like, what are you going to do between here and this afternoon? And that's what it.

Just start. You could just literally start. You could go get your, you know, on the simple things of guns in Canada, go get your pal. Yeah. Get it, then have it. Then start to add a few shells in. Set up your, you know, if you're a Bitcoin guy, set up your Bitcoin wallet. It actually doesn't take that much, but it does take it a little bit because it isn't

as simple as going open in a bank account. I will say that utmost. Shout up to Bow Valley Credit Union on that, who are helping bring the Cornerstone forum to Calgary as well. Nice. Because when I tried doing it through the 8th,000. ATB, my entire account got shut down. When I went and did it through BVCU, it was like smooth operating process.

I told Brett that the other day because like that was in the States. My entire bank account was locked out. I couldn't get into it because I tried buying, you know, not a Bitcoin because that's way too much money, but like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. People should look at where Bitcoin is as well. It was the other day at an all time high, I believe, or approaching an all time high, Like 73K, I believe. So when people start to see commodities that are not.

$93,000 Canadian. Canadian. Canadian. Canadian. But here, Max. We'll go max. And yeah, it's like right at the, it's close to an all time. Yeah.

So when people look at these outside currencies or hard commodities, you can, you can contrast that because it's, and why do people, why is that reason? Because people are losing faith, have lost faith. in fiat currency. It's the same thing as the gold thing. It's the same thing. You know, I say in the intros right now about gold being, you know,

what's the word I'm looking for? Resembling trusting. It's like what's the faith in government right now? What's the trust in government? 100%. What's at all time lows? Gold's at all time highs. Very similar.

But circling back about getting ready. And it's as simple as this. Like in the army, once you, you know, take out the enemy, position, you move ahead, you get off the position. That way, if you don't, yeah, you consolidate. So you start with a shell scrape, right?

Because you're, you're ready for a counterattack. So that shell scrape goes to like, now you're in an actual trench. You keep, like, you just keep improving your position. Now you're in an actual trench. There's two of you in there. Now you're building overhead protection. Now you're digging calm trenches. Now you're building wire obstacles in front of you.

Like, you're never, you're like, could you, you could be counter attacked once you're digging your shell scrape, but at least you got something, right? A shell scrape is just low enough for you to get in, get in so your body's covered for shrapnel. But you're always improving your defensive position. And then that way, if something does come, it could be right away or it could be years down the road, you've got something to be in or pull back to. So the same thing in life. Like if you want to get ready for it tomorrow and you're not fit, do a push-up. If you're, if you, if you, need some to get into gold or silver instead of buying beer buy some gold and silver like it's just

something you can you can you can just a little every day like the the put the take the pushups for example like most people probably couldn't knock out 10 pushups if they're not regular gym goers or whatever they couldn't do 10 pushups start with five do five a couple times there's there's uh and you do it right in your house i remember i remember two this years ago um my brother we've read a book I'm tools of Titans I think it was what it was I think anyways one of it was a pushup a day and I hardly got down in the middle of one of our book club meetings and did his push-ups because his alarm went off on his phone and when it went off he just started doing it and I made fun of him it's like whatever right and then I got home that night and I'm like what if he's right

ah screw it so I got down and did a push-up and the thing with a push-up is even if you can do 10 I bet you can do four I bet you can do more than one and all of a sudden And one push-up isn't a push-up a day. Actually, because once you're down there, you're going to do, is it five? Is it 50? And you'll laugh at it at the start. But eventually what happened was, is I went from doing one a day, which was never one a day because it was usually 25 to 50 a day to up to 100 a day and one just go because you get so good at them.

So I got bored with them and I went back to the gym. I was like, I just need to. So when I was trying out for selection, I was already in. in Rocky Batoon, so we had an amazing, like our warrant was, he was there and he knew like, you know, you had to be in shape and all that stuff. But when I'd go to the bar, every time I drank a beer, I'd do 40 pushups. So that paid off in spades because when I did my PT test, my physical training test, I'm fucking just pumping off these pushups. I had some French warrant like he's like watching me, right? So in my head, I'm counting. I get the 40 and 40s when he should be telling me

to stop. I got the 40. He said one. I'm like, oh my God. So fucking, I had to do 80 pushups just to fucking get through it, right? But it was like, holy fuck, I don't know what he's looking for, but I better do something different. Oh my God. So yeah, like it's a little at a time. Because I, because I was fucking doing extra more than what we do, because we basically, in Recky, we'd work at least four hours a day. Yeah. And then do other physical stuff during the day. But like yeah if I wasn't doing those extra pushups after every beer I don't know if I would have got through those 80 pushups well and we all reach points in our life where we coast a little I I caught myself about six months ago like I said where I was like you're kind of coasting dude like

you know you're not really putting in the 10k steps a day you know at a pace you're not you're going to the gym three four times a week but you're kind of just attending and I caught myself doing I was like, yeah, I'm pumping out whatever my bench was and whatever my, you know, my other weights were for my exercise. I'm like, you know, this isn't, I'm just showing up. I'm not really doing nothing. I'm not eating as clean as I should. And then I, I, I had like a jocco-will-nick moment where I was like, I'm not getting up at 3.30. Don't fuck that.

I'm retired. I'll get up when I want. But I still, I was like, when I'm in the gym, I'm going to do it with some intensity. I'm going to actually set a little bit of a goal. And so it just got a little. little better over six months I'm like hmm you know shit's coming together and then a year those improvements and then you do the same with your garden your canning yeah you do you the same with every little aspect like that because it could it up because it could happen tomorrow

it could or it could be 10 years away it could and guess what guess what and it may never happen during your kid's life like when you're dead yeah but least you set them up yeah with good skills yeah and a good and a good like outlook in life mm-hmm so that it's not doom and glue You can be dead and gone And then they've got to go through this But because of you taught them out of garden You taught them out of shoot You taught them to survive out the land

Faith and morals You taught them out to be morally correct You gave them religion So they have faith That takes you a long ways Like you're setting your family up for success If it doesn't happen in your lifetime It might happen in your kid's lifetime

Or your grandkids. Everybody I get that question Or this You know what are you going to do if it really happens anyway and that's a discussion we can have. But, um, that, but, but I'm always like, listen, do you have house insurance and car insurance and life? Well, yeah, of course I have house insurance and car insurance. I hope I never get in an accident though. I hope my house doesn't burn down. Well, I hope the world doesn't come to a crashing

shitty end with a EMP, a solar flare, a nuclear, whatever the thing might be. Yeah. And there's a no end to what they could be. If the fucking aliens come down and say enough with all of you, um, I'm as ready as I can be. And I will be the guy. I don't give a shit if I'm the only guy. I know I won't be. There's others as nuts as I am who aren't going to just go quietly into the night. It's just not going to happen.

That's not how I'm built. So it doesn't matter what's in front of me. Like I said earlier, if you're looking at giants, you better have a slinging a bunch of stones because you can knock them down. Here's the other thing about that, though, too, Chuck. So as you're preparing for the future, if it's a terrible future, You're connecting with other people that are like-minded. Very much so.

So what you're doing is you're actually creating a community. And that's something that our communities have lost. Like Lions clubs are shutting down, Niels clubs are shutting down. Like we've got to get back to community because in terrible times, community is what you need to survive. But nobody is, you know what? That's a great point actually.

And volunteerism is at the bottom of the lowest has ever been. because no everybody's working so much just to be able to afford two bags of groceries volunteerism is so difficult yes but i'm going to put a butt in there yeah people are people i don't know if it's lazy i don't want to there is a lazy element but like you can give more than what you're giving oh and i know that because i do it myself and at times i'm i'm personally like the lazy one i don't know i don't have time we all do it's the easiest thing we can put a crutch out I don't have time. And everyone goes, well, yeah, you're working real hard.

It's like, careful, because we can all give more. Yeah. Oh, totally. And when it comes to community, that's really, really important. Actually, it just reminds me of what the cornerstone, like everybody said they loved all the speeches, loved all the talks, roundtables. But what they loved even more than that was the hours after it was done where everybody's together, you're connecting your community. Oh, you could feel it. And the problem with all the institutional groups and I put the,

the Lions Club right in it. I put all those in it. Is when you stop speaking truth about what's actually going on and you get into this realm of where we're at in society, they're all going to fall apart, man. Like, we're all staring.

It's like, we're not going to talk about some of this stuff. Like, some of this stuff is complete bad shit crazy. Yeah. Like, we got to speak openly. And guess what community does, too? It keeps everybody honest, right? Like, so everybody's got a role to play.

You know where you are in your community. and community will keep you honest. Like you're, if you're out of line, they're going to bring you back into line because number one, they respect you or they like you and they want you to be part of the team still.

You know, so community also is like a good check stop for people as well. It keeps you straight and honest. You know, you're showing up with your kids. You know, you're doing all those right things. And you're going to create value for your family in the future.

Well, like you said earlier about the kid, whatever happens to us as as dads, I mean, you have to have at least given your kids that value. That's an invaluable insight is for them to see how important community is. And it just isn't, it's a, everybody fails at it on some level or coasts through it on some level at some point. And you try and be like, you know, once your kids are older, they're kind of doing their own thing for sure. Yours are, you both have younger kids. And it's a hugely important thing because every. Everybody's so isolated now. You have more social media than you can or access to information and know everybody's

dumber. You know how many books my daughter read last night? 10. Holy. So one of the things. Jesus Christ. I've probably put away. I've got to have my entire life.

So, so one of the things. Comic books. What guy books are you talking about here? One of the things, definitely not giant books. She's grade, uh, two. She's grade two. I read lots of picture books. So like one of the things that, um,

their school does is they have like how many books you should read in a month and every time you read a book you get to color off a thing yeah and my kids are wired like me they want to color them all in they want to do it fast there's probably a little bit of competition in the classroom anyways competition's good she had 10 left last night and so I read two with her and she said could I could read a couple more in bed I'm okay a couple more but go to bed okay okay and she was so excited every time she was coloring one off I could hear her and she was like vibrating on the floor That's hilarious. As she read the same book, the next book, another book.

She came out and she's like, only got three left. I'm like, okay. Then I had to text my wife because I'm like, she just read 10 in a row. I'm like, I don't know what to do with that. And then she comes out and she's like, you text mom and she was just giddy. Yeah, let her go. I mean, compared to like social media and all the other stuff. Like that's just reading was honestly one of the best things that ever happened to me

as a young kid on the farm. Like I just, my folks had boxes of books. The old Louis Lemaurs and every other. On the Louis Lomars. I, from the time before, I was that big reading and my kids, my wife and I both made sure reading wasn't just something they became addicted to and they both still are today. They still reading will get you out of this place. Reading will teach you.

Yeah. It's so important. And people don't read. I used to read a couple books a week. I love reading. It's a, whatever the environment. adventures the historical whatever um now uh because i'm in the truck a bunch i just listen to the books but it's still taking i don't know some some of the some of the audio books out there are

phenomenal dude some of these some of the narrators you're like you're in the book like you're it's so good i mean there's something that will never replace holding a book i did i did audio book of one second after did you listen to it i did wild well as soon as you truck came to the farm and and so we we ran through some things and one of the things was one second after. I'm like, alright, so I went and listened to it. It's Atlas shrugged in a newer version. Not Atlas Shrugged.

Alas Babylon, sorry. A last Babylon in a newer version. And shout out to Vance Crowe, if he ever listens to this. Vance Crowe, his book club read Alasbabelon. And I remember thinking, why the heck are we reading about a nuclear bomb going off and people having to survive? And then now you read, in my opinion, the newer version of that, which is one second after.

It, for me, hit me different. being a father yes this man being a father yeah I was um and community yeah it's all it's not it most of these post-apocalyptic type books are just the thing went off or the thing happened and now we're all and don't get me wrong there's elements of that in there what was that noise effect but what it is I can't don't know I just want I can't be I just why can it be Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo! Because it's gay. Poo Poo Poo Poo Poo! Yeah that's gay When you make that noise, you sound like you're, yeah, you're gay. No, I can have that on my shirt because I've done it.

I tell you what, I'm going to have a Pupu shirt for the next time he comes out. I tease the fuck out of you right now. I can't wait to all be wearing Pupu shirts. Pupu. I'm not wearing them. Hey, make them pink. You wear them all you want. The thing I took, one of the big takeaways from that book, there's several books in that series, by the way.

In the one second after? There's several. He wrote, there's one year after is the next one. And I forget what the third one's called. Really? Yeah. Oh, no. I'm interested.

Now I'm going to make me suck the crap. Oh, yeah. And they're good. The first one is the iconic moment. Yeah, but that's because it all is falling apart. But the community is what you take away from it. Like how they all banned, even the people who didn't necessarily have great relationships, how if you either band together or you don't.

Well, Chuck, we saw that in Bosnia. Yeah. So we would like patrol up into the mountains and you got to go chat. Like the community would be totally. flattened like the war rampage through their area and and the people would move and live in these fucking caves like but but when you go into one of these caves that they were living in it was like decked right out like they had all kinds like it was like they were set up but but they were out of the battlefield they were safe and they're secure and like they had beautiful

little dwellings in there and so they put together I like a generator to generate power. And this was a terrible moment in Canadian history. But anyways, they asked for one of our sections to come there. So 10 guys with a grizzly to come down there, which is a lightly armored vehicle, to stand this mast up. And the guy that did it was like our mountain operations guy. Like he knows all the ropes and rigging and shit.

So he dug a hole in the ground. And he, you know, it was like four or five feet deep. And he had like a ramp so that the pole. would slide in there when the when the carrier was standing it up like this pulls like 60 feet high with this with this homemade generator they got on top that's going to power this little mountain village so anyways as they're pulling it they got it tied to the sides so it doesn't flop left and right and then it's anchored to the vehicle which is pulling it up but they forgot the fucking back tie it so that so once it gets stood it's going to stand up there and then fall right on

No, no. What happened was the commander said, okay, stop, it's perfect. So now they can backfill it. So when the guy engaged the brake on the vehicle, it rolled ahead like a foot. And it was just enough to pull the whole thing right over. And it come crashing down the fucking, the generator exploded. Everybody in the community was fucking pissed off. The commander was like, all right, everybody in the vehicle, time to go. This whole community is like just mad as hell.

So, yeah, the next. Could we talk about that for a second, actually? You, I don't know if I've ever, you know, whenever we talk about that civil war. Yeah. We talk about the cities and how much devastation. In the book that I brought up at the start. Yep. That's what he lived was a city.

And I'm like, oh, man. Oh, they were, a lot of them were blown to shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Sarajevo where I was, we were, well, We were outside. We weren't in it. We were outside of it by, depending on the OPE,

very close to it. That's like a, it was just devastated, completely devastated. So, but you're, I was in Croatia though. And every village was flattened.

Mm-hmm. Like, like, like, where there'd be a nice, beautiful village was flattened. Like, Bank of Acts wasn't flattened.

But, but all the, all the villages, like, there might have been 40 or 50 houses in a village. Complete, like,

if you look at videos of, of, of, uh, Ukraine, that's what these were like. But when you went out inside of the village, these flattened villages, how far did you have to go out before you found people just living normally? Well, no, they would live in rubble of these villages.

No, I understand, but you just told me about a mountain village. Oh, no, that was in Bosnia. That was a different situation where they could escape it. Like in Croatia, the Serbs almost cut Croatia right in half. Like there were five kilometers from the coast. So this was a highly contested, like highly volatile area. So there was lots of shit going on like in a certain like maybe a 20 kilometer wide point to cut the country in half. So that was our area where we were down like with he was up in Sarajevo.

We were down in Croatia. So is there no option for those people? So what happened is like where we live now in Alberta. But what happens is they can exit the big cities. They pull the people out of there. So in the summer, that's the fighting months. All the civilians are extracted out of that area. Like they get pulled right out of that area because during the fighting season, they don't want civilians there.

So during the winter months where they're like they're grazing their sheep, they're like, they need that area to, to like, you know, have their livestock to be able to survive or they're trying to rebuild their houses. or they're actually the Serbs are laying claim to Croatian villages. So like there's there's stuff that's going on in the winter, but come to summertime, they pull everybody back to two other villages that, where they could actually have running water and. Where we were outside Sarajevo, I don't think I saw a normal anything.

Everything was. Yeah, it's all fucked up. If it wasn't actively being, I mean, there were, depending on the observation post you were on. And I don't remember which one it was that we were. on for about a month, they were actively engaging each other like full on combat.

It wasn't until 97. Within hundreds of meters of us daily. It wasn't until 97 where people were coming back like to their to their original villages. Yeah. And that was part of our job as as NATO was like to reintegrate, you know, like Serbs back where the Croatians were and the Croatians would go back to where they were supposed to be. And and the Muslims would come into their Muslim regions. and so it was like a reintegration of people and just to make sure that nobody was fucking

To be honest, I'm quite shocked that they they don't have more issues there. Well, Bosnia is about to kick off again. I would, yeah, yeah. Like there's issues there. There are issues there, yeah. But I don't, I couldn't even understand that they were able to reintegrate at all because you talk about some of the worst atrocities imaginable. They've all been done there.

Like they, we got to. to see firsthand what a wiped out village looks like with the entire family dumped in the basement or they talk about mass graves and people get this image in their head well that must mean X,000 of people is a mass graver X, you you line up a village of 300 people put them in a ditch cover that with about an inch of dirt with so that their feet and parts of them are still sticking out. That's a mass grave and you see enough of those and you understand just how vicious all three sides were

there was no one gooder side than the other all three sides the British were looking for a new camp in 97 and they kept finding DNA in the water

they're trying to find a fresh water source well it all led back to this rock quarry where they were like taking train loads of people to this rock crusher and they'd grind them up

like well they're alive they'd just show them in these rock crusher and then they would be like There was flooded old parts of the quarry that they've dumped this waste into. And then that would leach into the, into the river system and they're fine.

Like, it's, it's, it's, it's unfabable, the shit that people will do to each other. And these, and forget,

this was a place that just had the Winter Olympics a few short years earlier. This could happen like in any country. Yeah. Canada included. And people think, couldn't, I know there's people out there, nope,

could never happen here. Well, but, but here's the thing. We, like, the brown shirts, like, stood up for Hitler because they believed in what he was doing. During the COVID times, I saw people that would wear brown shirts and stand up for what are doing. I mean, and you see him today. And I think they're, like, look at, look at Freeland and look, well, our worst problem, let's be, that's, that's, that's, nobody's talked about this yet.

But fucking look what Singh is doing for, for, for his pension. Like, so a quick note, I went down to Ottawa for the. the opening of fallen heroes. So mentally I'm thinking, okay, I don't know who's going to be there. Like Singh could be there. Trudeau could be there. If they didn't show up. I met the Army Commander, great dude.

Met up with some Afghani interpreters that got out there. There's probably 25 of them there. Had a great conversation with those guys. I was so fucking happy to see those guys there. I got to do closing remarks for the movie, which was an honor. Senator Marty Klein asked me to do that, which I did. But just, it was just, I haven't met an Afghani interpreter since, like, 07 since I was there in 07.

And I was so happy to hear about these guys being there and hearing about their families and how they got out and how horrific all that was. Do you know what, do you know what's going on in Afghanistan right now? The fucking Taliban has outlawed opium. so they've got a they've got a strategic reserve of opium so the opium prices have shot up but guess what they're making opium out of now fucking some chemical that china's given another fentanyl it's some kind of fentanyl but they're making synthetic opium now and they've outlawed like poppy opium in in afghanistan now but uh for two reasons because they're making more money off the opium they already got and they're they it doesn't cost as much to fucking traffic this other

opium that's made chemically but the Taliban has such a like great um like system of disputing or getting it throughout the world like that's why the chinese are you actually using the fucking oh china's got a huge footprint in afghanistan for their minerals oil so does russia russia has Russia just had a Taliban delegation to Moscow like a week ago to discuss oil and minerals. But you know, it's more minerals and oil. Yeah, it's definitely. But you know why fucking China is is happy with Afghanistan right now? Because they got Baggham Airfield.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bagam Airfield is literally within like fucking an hour's plane ride of the nuclear storage and testing area of China. That's why it was such a, like Trump wanted to keep that airfield. Keep it, yeah. So he could be within striking distance of that, of that nuclear testing area. And when, you know, we talk, we've talked about this before about the fall of, the fall of Afghanistan and Kabul. Trump's any stated thoughts and claims.

He had the perfect plan. He did. We're going to hold baghrum. And he's going to hold Kandahar. And he was going to hold Kandahar too? No, the Canadians were going to be in Kandar with the Aussies and the English, S.F. And then Bagram was just going to be American. But even so even when Biden took over and completely foobared that whole thing up,

he didn't even close the right place down. He closed down bagram and tried to use the Kabul airfield, which was just idiotic. I mean, of all the many stupid things that man has done in 50 years, that might be ranked among one of the top stupid things. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, Jack. So the way that it's been told to me Is that when the Americans pulled out

They didn't even tell the coalition forces that were there They just fucking disappeared in the middle of the night And then when the president woke up in the morning And his security detail was gone He packed a bag of fucking money Went to the airport, he left And then when they phoned the president in the morning All of his generals

All the fucking president has left And so is the American So then they all left. Yeah. No wonder the place fell like a deck of cards. Yeah. Like everybody fucking just up and ran. Like even the coalition guys are like, what do you mean the yags have fled in the middle of the night?

Like who does that to a, to a, uh, other nations that are supposed to be your allies. Oh, NATO's going to win the next war though. Fucking Biden, Dad. NATO, we're set to take on Russia. Don't you worry. Oh, come on. Chuck. That's not go down that road.

Do you think we could take on Russia? NATO? NATO? I think we could. Oh, you've had way too many beer. No, no. Way too many beer. With what?

What are we going to take them on with? Chuck. We don't have anything left. What time is it? It's almost time for you to have a nap. Praise sakes. Thanks for coming in, boys. Yeah, boy.

Hey, I love you, man. Thanks for having us. Well, thanks for answering the conference. call. I throw it to call and you put up the bat signal and pew-pue and the guy with tons of hair, I guess, on the back of his neck. Both come. Thanks for doing this, kids. Hey, thanks for giving us a voice.