Shaun Newman Podcast - #736 - The Mashup: Sask Election Livestream

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Here is the complete livestream from Monday night where we discussed all the events leading up to the 2024 Saskatchewan Provincial Election. 222 Minutes co-hosted the livestream and we were joined by John Gormley, Chris Barber, Ken Rutherford, Nadine Ness, Lee Harding, Lise Merle, Wayne Peters, Angela Schmitt and Quick Dick McDick.  Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Clothing Link:⁠⁠⁠https://snp-8.creator-spring.com/listing/the-mashup-collection⁠⁠ Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: [e-mail] Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone]

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This was the full live election coverage from the other night, Monday night. We were joined by a whole cast of characters from across the province of Saskatchewan and by thousands of people online. And one of the things I wanted to make sure I did on this one was air it on the podcast. We didn't do that with the BC Live election. and that's that's on me and so this is you know the full coverage

of the live election from Monday night enjoy well folks it's Sask election time it's the most wonderful time of year time of year comes around only once in four years

we've been we've been hitting each other because it's pretty exciting times here game face so if you're new to this This is the mashup. We're live at the mashup HQ. And we're here to bring you a little SAS election live coverage.

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And there you go. So T-B-B-R-1 and AMC electrical. Thanks very much, guys. The two major sponsors of today's election live stream. have a full slate of people. So many. We have a full slate. It's going to be a lot of them off. Oh, sure. I guess I could, I guess I could. Oh, yes. Let me just go through all of my paperwork here. John Gormley, John Gormley's coming up here in a few moments. He'll be, he'll be hopping in. We got Jerry Ritz, Chris Barber, Ken Rather for Gage, Hobrick, Lee Harding, Angela Schmidt, Wayne Peters, Jamie Sinclair, Nadine Nest, Lee's Merrill, QDM, Bradwell, and possibly a couple others. I'm not going to say their names.

Because at the end of the day, if they don't show up, they don't show up. But maybe a couple others after the 930 hour. We'll see how this thing goes. We were going to have a former CFL star and business person Brian Gebert on, but he couldn't make it. And so this is actually kind of a monumental moment for him. As far as I know, this will be the first interview he's ever turned down in his life. Yeah. So this could be fun.

If you're commenting on the live stream, we want to know where you're listening to. We're listening from even better. And if you're in Saskatchewan, in a small town, Saskatchewan, or heck, you're in Alberta and you're from Sals, we want to know all the small places in Saskatchewan we got listeners coming in from. So I would love to hear some of that. Now, I didn't do this last time. I'm not forgetting this time, okay? Anyone who comes in the studio gets a one ounce silver coin. I haven't written here.

It's because you saw it written on my notes, didn't you? I didn't. I didn't. I remembered. I remembered. Do I get two now? No. Sorry, you get one.

You get, there you go. I remember, one ounce silver coin. That's to the throwback to the silver gold bowl, the boys in. Ooh, it's a Chuck. It's Chuck the third. So, I mean, this is a new one. It's still, it's actually still warm. Thanks, Sean.

Now, map, okay? So one of the things we've done, this is the third time we did Alberta, we did BC, and now obviously this is the third iteration. at Saskatchewan. And one of the things we've, we've been proud of is having live updates from a map of our creation, having the data come right into it. We're the first people other than CBC, CTV and global in the history of Canada to ever have the map. And we've had it twice now. I'll be curious what John Gormley has say about that. I wonder if he ever had the map on one of his election day coverage. Oh, yeah, maybe he could

fact check that and tell me I'm full of baloney. I'd rather, it's better than being full of Balgoni, am I right? But tonight, the Canadian Media Elections Consortium, I don't know who you are. I thought election data was like pretty much like public. I mean, it's like, hey, we want to make sure this is

transparent. The number to get it, you know, was $12,000. $1,0191. What, why do you care about the $91? Just round it down at that point. Or make it infinity billion. You want $12,000 for us to have access to the Saskatchewan elections link for the for the RSS feed it's absolutely insane yes so

once again we're going to work on that we're working on this as we speak you know here I'll show you here here's a guy in the background okay there he is give him away Brett give him away we got a camera on the guy tonight who's going to make sure this uh goes smoothly hopefully and he's actually going to try and hack the feed as we get going he's going to see if he can white had it And you know what? If that works, we're totally not paying you consortium, which by the way, if you're going to set up some clandestine thing or some ridiculous bureaucratic thing, you don't call it a consortium. You may as well call it a mob. Now, do you want to do, I see John sitting there before we bring him in because we're, or do you want to do it with John?

Do you want to do what? Wait, wait, wait. We should bring him in the second he shows up. It's John Gormley. Do you want to do predictions before John comes in? Or do you want to do predictions with John? Well, yeah. Then when John makes us both, you're both going to make me look like it.

Fine. All right, fine. We'll start it here, okay? Canadian radio talk show host, author, lawyer, and former politician. All right. Let's bring in John Garmley. John, thanks for hopping on. Well, it's wonderful to be here.

I think this is the first time I've done this gig. And gosh, watching and listening to you too. This is performance at a very high level. Thank you, sir. Yes, yes. Nice to see you. Now, okay, before we get to predictions, because at some point, I want to do that. Now I'm feeling under the gun.

I should have got it. I should have not noticed John. I should have said what I was going to say. And now it'll probably all get sliced and diced. John, with the Saskatchewan election, one of the things with all the guests that come on, we want to know what you think Saskatchewan folk or we're going to have listeners from across Canada tuning in, what they need to know about this election. What people need to know, and it's funny how cognitive dissonance is kicked in, part of

is a media that has decided it really is ginning up NDP support. Part of it is, I think, just a whole lack of reading enough. Do you know what the results have been the last few elections in Saskatchewan? It was... It was... The Sask Party won 48 seats, the NDP won 13. Now, four years before... 5110. 5110 back in 16. 49-9 back in 11.

and when Bradwall started the whole performance in 07, it was 38 to 20. I emphasize that because my number is 38, which is 10 off 48. So clearly there's some decline for the Sask Party. But what's going on with this talk where all of a sudden you've got, you know, now first of all, 17 years is an extraordinarily long time. Most governments get in trouble before that. But gosh, to have a flip of government when you've been at 40, 38, 51, 49, and 38,

pretty hard to see that coming. Well, I wonder, though, forgive me, sitting on, you know, Saskatchewan roots, Alberta side. And I brought it up in the BC election. When you look at Alberta, ousted their premier of who went through COVID, right? Who got COVID right? I would argue nobody.

But regardless, that's the argument. And when you come back to Saskatchew, one of the, you know, talking things of what's changed since 2020 till now. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Right smack in the middle, COVID and all the issues that came with COVID. Yep, absolutely. And most premiers who dealt with COVID, it was like turning human years into dog years all of a sudden. You know, they aged politically a lot.

So most premiers who were through the COVID period have moved on. Now, the problem, of course, with COVID, Scott, Moe from the let's make our babies wear masks, let's close schools, let's never have fun again in our lives, which was a consistent group of the left, they said Scott Moe was reckless, he ignored science, he was a danger to Saskatchewan. On the other political side, the group now as time passes that are looking more correct all the time, who had real misgivings about mandatory vaccination policies, everything else, they said Scott Moe had moved, quote, too far of the left. So he couldn't get it either way in COVID, but I would argue that he came through it fairly well.

Well, nobody likes someone who just sits on the fence, I guess. And I think that's, I don't know, I'm, I'm one of the people who left Saskatchewan when the NDP was encouraging everybody to seek their fortunes in other provinces. And it seems to me, now, I'm. kind of looking in now it sucks. I'm getting to the point where I'll have lived away from Saskatchewan more than I lived in Saskatchewan in a couple of years. But it seems as though he's just kind of been...

We could change that, you know, just suggesting. Yeah, I appreciate that. But it seems as though he's just kind of just coasting down the middle of the river, you know, just putting out an ore to keep himself from hitting the banks here and there. I mean, there hasn't really been a whole lot of the, the, kind of conservative things that you would hope for and want to see. I mean, he's not proposing any big cuts. He's not looking to make any big changes. It's just sort of status quo. Hard, hard issue. You know, I mean, from a political conservative point of view, I don't think

that's an inaccurate description. When you talk to people in the cities, he's gone, quote, too far right. You know, it's been too much discussion. Do they give examples? Oh, parents rights, huge one. He never should have touched it. They're getting tired of him. I would call it standing up for Saskatchewan, but whether it's carbon tax, whether it's Trudeau, whether it's other Ottawa policies. They're saying, yeah, I get he's standing up for us. And a surprisingly high number of people say that, but that's not getting me and my kids a family doctor. You've got tens of thousands of Saskatchewan people who can't even get a doctor. Now, I don't remember a time in my life like that. I do know from COVID, I do know that in the Western world, health care is in a real problem.

So this is not a unique Saskatchewan thing, but health care is the big issue. Can't hear the guest. Can it can, uh, forgive me. We can hear you just fine, John. Uh, people are commenting they can't hear you. Is that, uh, John's, uh, once again, I, I, I, I don't know. If people are tuning into the live stream, we want to make sure that they can hear John. So I'm waiting for the chat to catch up to us because we can hear you just fine. Okay.

Some people are saying they can hear them. For those of you can't, he's just agreeing with everything I'm saying. Oh, sorry, sorry, I didn't mean interrupt though. Please continue.

We were just, sorry, one of the things about a live stream, John, and you know this. I know you know this is we're watching the comments come in and we're waiting to see what everybody's saying. Now we're getting a ton of,

I can hear them, which is great. Okay. Carry on, John. Yeah, no, my point is that Scott Moe is criticized by even some in his base as he's not standing up enough, particularly on health care. You know, so they say, yeah, it's good. He's pushing back on Ottawa. Yes, it's good.

He's there on the carbon tax. My kids don't have a doctor. Surgical wait times are too long. So I'm hoping and I'm thinking we're going to see tonight, assuming the government wins. And did I tell you my prediction? I did say. No, we're going to get to actually what, this is a perfect time.

What is your prediction, John? 38 seats. 38? Yep. And you're giving the rest to who? I'm giving the rest to the NDP, which would be 23. 23. Okay.

Which would be their biggest number in many, many elections. It would be their biggest number since 2003, but still it would be 15 seats short of toppling the government. So I'm not seeing a government in threat. Now, curious, twos, what number do you have? Well, I think we're going to see 32 for the NDP, 29 for the SASC party, and it's not going to get announced for another six months. All right. I do worry a little about the length of time to count.

Yeah. What are your thoughts? Sorry, John, the length of time to count is Saskatchewan similar to BC? Like, I think we're all staring at this debacle in BC. And you don't have to be a tinfoil hat where to go. It's going to take you how long to count the votes? That makes zero sense. Oh, and wait, the number isn't what you said it was.

Now it's up like, what, 16,000? And it just keeps going on and on and on. When you stare at Saskatchewan and their voting structure, could we see the same thing happen here if it were in twos' world, a 3229 or a 31.30 even? Oh, absolutely. In fact, this did happen last time in 2020 because the huge number of mail-in ballots, because of the pandemic, because there is in election law and official count.

And I think in Saskatchew, it happens exactly seven days after tonight. And I remember my friend Rylund Hunter, who almost beat the NDPs Ryan Miley, you know, the night of the election, Ryland was down a couple of hundred votes. We waited. It was a Monday. I want to say it was a Saturday or even the next Monday. It was five to seven days. we waited to see Rydland actually ended up losing by a few more hundred,

but no, the closer ones, we're going to have to wait a week. Interesting. So I get all rattled about the fact that the BC election has taken as long as it has, and you stare at that and go, eh, this is a little bit the clunkiness of election in Canada. That was the one specific writing. And, yeah, I mean. And I'm with you guys in that, because I like manual counting.

and the beauty of this official count is it's manual. These are human beings who sit at a table, which is, by the way, what's going on as soon as the polls close at 8 o'clock in every polling station, you sit there and you count each vote. It takes a week to get everybody in a boardroom to count votes. I would think you could cover that off with really good counters probably in a day. I feel like you just put a bucket in the corner, lock the door, and say everybody gets flush toilets when everything's counted.

That would make sense. But maybe I'm crazy. I just, there's easy solutions out there. I don't know, maybe we just need to take the counting to the private sector and we could have it done like within about 20 minutes of the election being closed. I need your help. You guys have an audience who, by the way, I love, but many of them on the political axis are somewhat to the right of me.

I see the Sask United Party at best coming second in four seats like the Buffalo Party did last time the SAS United Party nothing politically I think

that enrages my friends on the right are you thinking the SAS United I know Jerry Ritz is coming up will actually even give game I well I personally think in a couple of writings they're going to make their presence known. I mean, it was only, and maybe, I'd love your thoughts on this, John, but go back to the

Lumsden School affair with all the things coming out there. Then John Ramek running, placing second, getting 23% of the vote, finishing ahead of the NEP, right, finishing second. Now, albeit, not by much, but. And 30 points back of, of, of, but for essentially an unknown and them running such a short campaign. I think that's stuck out to a lot of people. So I'd be shocked if they didn't make a bit of noise in one or two ridings for sure. Am I wrong on that? Well, again, I give you four. You know, the Buffalo ran second in exactly that scenario. Yeah. You know, getting 21, 22 to finish second

in overwhelmingly conservative seats. I don't doubt that happening. But I've got friends in the usup who are relishing vote splitting so new democrats can get elected which i tend to think is psychologically kind of unbalanced but um i don't know what you're hearing i haven't heard that the thing about the vote splitting is my stance anyway is that no particular party is entitled to anybody's vote and that if the sask party wants to get the votes that would go to the Saskia United Party, all they have to do is do a better version or, yeah, a better version of what the Sask United Party wants to bring forward. And they would get those votes.

And so I really don't like the argument about vote splitting because it implies that the incumbent party or the establishment party is somehow owed those votes. And when you've got a situation like that, you end up with what happened in 2015 in Alberta. But I respectfully disagree. You know, since 1934, we've had 22 elections in Saskatchew. In four of those elections,

the NDP got more than 50% of the vote. I was pulling up some numbers today because I do randomly silly things. The 1978 election, every single NDP seat in the country, when you added up the liberal and conservative votes, it was exponentially higher than the NDP. The NDP governs Saskatchewan with a huge sweep. They always did.

Tommy Douglas called it Mouseland. He had this parable. Black cats, white cats fight. They leave the mice alone. The Sask Party is when the black cats and the white cats sat down. In the five elections, the Sask parties tendered their votes. Four of them, they've won over 50% of the vote. Three of them, they've won over 60%.

Saskatchewan is not a socialist province. these days Alberta is far more socialist, I would argue. Have you been to Calgary lately where all the hipsters hang out? I think they're called homeless people, but yes. We had, you know, off that, it's funny because when we announced all the people coming on, you know, certain names spark responses, and yours certainly did, John. So this is one of the texts that I got about you specifically. Gormley states a BS fact out of his ars to scare,

sask rural folks. Many are cheerleading for a vote split then brings in the commies. I'm assuming they're quoting this is your Western standard article. I challenge him to name one SAS United supporter who wants NDP. Good morning to both of us today. That was that was what was sent as we announced the lineup and when you were coming on. I know two of them and I will not out of courtesy because I don't think they need to be named publicly. But these are dedicated SAS guys and they are hoping and they'll name the seats one of course is Saskatchewan rivers where nadine wilson is actually an incumbent sask united uh candidate they're seeing and i don't

i agree with them i don't see it i can't make the math work but they're thinking you could get some new democrats elected not in that that writing went what was it 64 or 68 percent uh to nadeen in the in the 2020 election i it assuming that it's even close to that. Like, you'd mathematically, you'd have to almost perfectly split that hair down the middle

to have the NDP take it. Absolutely. Eric Schmaltz running for the Sass party is likely going to end up in that range of 50 to 65. Nadine will come second with 21, 22, maybe. John, what would you suggest? You know,

because once upon a time, the Sass party was just an idea, right? And they didn't get in, you know, it's not like they ran their first election and had what happened out in BC where all of a sudden, holy dinah lightning captured in a bottle and, you know, they could possibly be the governing body. I'm talking the conservatives, obviously. Yeah. Well, I mean, they built their way up. You know about that. Yeah. Well, and I kind of wonder like, okay, so people are upset with the SaaS party.

You're appealing to them. What would you suggest then for the people that are upset with how the SaaS party is ruling currently? Absolutely. I have an easy suggestion. Get involved in your constituency executive or your what they call them EDAs now, whatever. Get yourself and your friends nominated. Get yourself on the provincial executive. Become an activist in your party. Parties are beautiful organic things and they vary. I mean, the SaaS party at times with Brad Wall is a different feeling looking SAS party than today,

whether you think that's good, bad, or indifferent. Point is leadership and policy and people matter. get yourself involved and make your party matter. Now, before, I don't know when Jerry Ritz is coming on, so we'll wait for him to slide in. But John, before we let you out of here, you're hosting something tonight, I believe, as well. I think we should give you the courtesy of letting people know if they want to go listen to you where they can find you tonight. I mean, absolutely. I mean, I'm back to this one first.

I mean, here, folks, but I mean, if they want to hear a little bit more of Gormley and what you have going on tonight. Well, thanks, guys. I'm back on my old radio station. K-O-M dot com or C-J-M-E.com. We're doing wall-to-wall live coverage starting at 8 o'clock when the polls close. And by the way, I wanted to jump in on your media consortium thing. Is that the same media consortium that's convinced Justin Trudeau to spend how many hundreds of millions bailing out the media? I'm not sure about that.

I imagine. So don't pay money to these people. It only encourages them. Well, I mean, if they got hundreds of millions of dollars from Justin Trudeau, I feel like they probably wouldn't need our 12,091. No. It's just funny. It's just funny.

Sorry, John. It's just interesting because this isn't the first time we've done this. We've reached out to other governments, right? And there's just like, yeah, here's the link. Where you go? And it'll start populating you after 8 o'clock hour. Boom, where we go. Saskatchewan?

That's going to cost you. Yeah, it's going to cost you. I'm like, Saskatchewan of all places. But if you go on elections, Saskatchewan, you know, the government elections website, they sent us to the they sent us to the consortium. Yes, if we had, if we had Brett miced up,

he'd tell you that's exactly what he did. And then they sent us, sent us off to the consortium. Why don't we have Brent? Why don't we have Brett miced up? I don't know. That was a silly part on our bar. We're slowly building here.

All right. We're slowly building. You know? I mean, we have the mics. We try. You know, we try.

John, I guess, you know, before we let you out of here, I'm waiting on, Jerry Ritz to hop on. Any final thoughts here on the Sask election before we let you let you get on with your night? Because we know you got to prepare for a show as well. And certainly on this side, we know all about that. So any final thoughts before you let you out of here? It's quite a day.

This is a really historic night. I mean, you get very few governments ever that get 17 years, even fewer that get five consecutive elections. Is the Sask party going to get a message tonight? I think they are. Some of the urban people who voted for them in the past are going to stay home. Some of them might even vote NDP, but there is an issue in the cities. Healthcare, education, what it costs my family to live. The government's got the opportunity to pivot into that, and in a way, it's a new iteration or a new generation of the party. If they don't, the NDP tonight will be poised four years from now to govern again. So this is where I put it on SaaS party supporters.

It's your party. Do something about it. That's a good way to put it. Now, to be clear, like we've had actually a bunch of people just, for example, in the comments, just saying, hey, we miss you on talk radio. You need to start a podcast. Your thing with CKOM tonight, is this a one-off? Or are you looking to maybe dip your toes back in?

Or what's on the horizon for John Gormley? You know, when I left the radio, it, I had the greatest gig in the world for 25 years. I loved every single of it. But when you hand the torch over, and for me, it's just life, right? I'm still practicing law. In fact, I'm practicing more. I'm a labor and employment lawyer, Cypherling Law in Saskatoon,

but I don't practice law full time. I've got grandkids. I've got kids. I've got a wife who I love dearly and we like traveling. So what I'm trying to do now is have a bit more life for us, but I said to them, I'm not going to do any more radio. If there's an election comes up, give me a call. So that's what they did.

But no, I, and I've avoided and resisted podcasts as attractive as the idea is because, as you know, you prep. You know, I prepped every morning at 4.30 like I was drinking out of a fire hose for 25 years. And it's a lot of work. And I just don't want to do that anymore. That's every Friday for us. Every Friday on the mashup is I'm up at 4.30 looking through all the things I had bookmarked in Twitter. and just being like, oh, is this going to be interesting to talk about?

How can I tie this back to here? Where can I throw on a decent one liner? We'll do that every day for 25 years. Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, John, appreciate you hopping on and giving us some time today. We'll let you get on with your night. And, uh, um, yeah, it was nice seeing again.

We met very briefly in the summer of 2001 at the Willows golf course. And, uh, I haven't seen you since. So it's nice that we kind of, you know, reconnected. you again and it's been an honor Yeah it's great seeing you again too so thanks so much

Yeah it's great seeing you You're so memorable back then I'm sure Well I'm sure hey It's a lot of good memories there You know it's funny like I I met April wine there

I met Don Bernstick And you know I'll say like yeah I met John Gormley And the funny thing is Is I met Lauren Calvert there And this is the first time I've ever mentioned it Yeah there you go

John Gormley, thanks for hopping on. Best luck with your show tonight. And we'll have our eyes on your, you know, the prediction from Gormley, 3823 for the SaaS party, NDP, getting the other 23. And we'll see. I have Jerry Ritz calling me. We're having issues on getting into this thing.

So John, thanks for hopping on. We'll let you out of here. Thanks, take care. Thanks, John. So there you go. John Gormley, I don't know. You're going to step out and I'm going to free ball? Is that what's going to happen?

That's exactly what's going to happen. here because I'm going to try and talk Jerry Ritz through getting on here, folks. And welcome to live streaming. Isn't that what we do here? That is. Okay. All right. I didn't even get to say, I didn't even get to say my prediction.

My prediction is 40 for the SaaS party. 20 for the NDP. And I got one for the SAS United. Okay. My serious prediction is that it's going to be about 3229 the other way. 3229. That is for twos. Yeah. And and also take an annoyingly long amount of time to come out with it. I got to make a phone call. I'll be right back.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the two show. Thanks for joining. And that's the night. Here we go. So it's interesting. Like there's the one thing that's really, I've thought about this quite a lot. And it never seems to come up in Saskatchewan elections. And it's that the voting. block of, hey, can we get that door shut? The voting block of anti-NDP people who moved away to other parts of Canada, mostly Alberta, and never ever moved back. There's so many of them that would be voting absolutely not orange that left and never came back.

And it ended up being a good thing for the NDP in the long term that when they were in charge. Everybody who wanted to make something of themselves moved away and went to other places. And now we're in a situation where they're never going to be able to vote for the other people. It's the kind of smart, long game that you wouldn't really expect from socialists. But anyway, that's it. There's a lot of really interesting writings coming up, by the way. One of them, we've got, oh, shoot, I got it right here. Michelle Krieger is running in Cannington,

and she's a long time fan and friend of the show. And so we're going to be keeping a close eye on that one coming up. Sean is back. Welcome back. I'm the show, Sean. Yes, welcome back. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Sean Newman, folks.

So Jerry Ritz having issues. He was texting me. He was at an RM council meeting. So I'm like, he's probably trying to do three different things at once. And then stream yards being stream yard and not giving him any luck. So Jerry can't get in. And also another thing that I'm getting text. about right now. You know, is this, the sci-op against, against what we're doing? I don't know. My

X isn't streaming it. So one of the things. So you're, you're not able to stream right now. So the consortium won't give us the link to the map. Are we starting to see? So one of the things, if you're on X, make sure to retweet it, make sure to tag me. And I'll try and, I'll try and retweet it out. But right now, it won't let me, uh, it won't let me do that. So I'm going to see if I can pull it up again and try, but we'll see. Okay. Another interesting point from Derek says, anybody but the NDP, I assume he means and the Montreal Canadians. I'd say that's pretty fair.

Yeah, I don't know what it is about the habs and the Leafs and the Oilers, but whenever any of the three of them are playing against each other, I just hope that everybody loses. Other interesting thing, and I guess we don't have anything to say about that, so we're going to accept it as can and now going forward. I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get and I'm going to keep shit talking the Oilers that's right, that's right. They won last night

by the way. They won last night by the way. Yeah, it's basically just a mercy goal or yeah, mercy game. The liberals, by the way, I'm not sure if you folks are aware of this or not. He says shuffling his papers like a professional newsman. They rebranded themselves the Saskatchewan

progress party and they are running no less than three candidates, which is just enough to keep going for tax purposes, I'm guessing, or something like that. The other thing, I don't know if anybody else noticed this or not, I'm going to put it up on the screen. This is from the Saskatchewan election site. So, oh, I got to go click back and forth on this.

But we're going to go meta for a second. And then if you look, anywhere that the NDP. is running. Their official name on the ballot is New Democratic Party Sask section. You can see it all the way up and down the right side of the page. New Democratic Party SASC section. So anytime anybody wants to call you a crazy conspiracist or, you know, some looney or whatever for saying that the provincial NDP parties are a division of the federal NDP party, it's literally on the ballot this year. Yeah, what a strain. Can you imagine being a part of that party? It's just NDP.

Sask division. It's like, NDP are in a real party. I'm not, I mean, they're not a serious party. That's for sure. I know they're going to win some seats tonight.

My brain tries to, like I try to understand that folks. And I just, I don't get it. I don't get it. So, I mean, it's like me trying to figure out stream yard right now and get it so

that my stupid act will work. Get your poop in a group show. Yeah, I know. It's like, it just keeps, it just keeps saying, not,

not, not going to stream there tonight. Elon, help me out. here. Like, holy din. Because Elon's definitely watching this. Hey, Elon's got Roos to Saskatchew. He's probably going.

His family's from, uh, in Saskatchewan tonight. Oh, shoot. Just outside of Swift anyway. On the way to Morris, I can't remember the name of the town. But, uh, but that's where his family, uh, when he used to come up to Saskatchewan when he was a kid, it was just outside of Swift. And, you know, best laid plans. Stupid, stupid, stupid technology.

So we got no Jerry Ritz. We got no Jerry Ritz. We got no Jerry Ritz. We're not. we are not going to be putting on the Ritz tonight, folks. Wait a second. Are the Oilers losing for nothing? Is that true? Is that a true statement? Who are they? More importantly, though, we have nice wardrobe choice twos. Thank you very much, Michelle. You know who remember the poppies tonight, folks? That was Sean. Yep. Yeah, that was a good touch.

You know? Yeah. There's so, um, what's the next thing we need to talk about that? Well, I think the polls is interesting. Well, the polls are because depending on which one you look at, it's either 50-50, 51-49 or 49-51, basically. It's an absolute coin flip. And so if you're watching this, you're going to want to stay tuned all night. We'll sell you the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

Can you like, you guys, we're losing for nothing to Columbus? No, is it Columbus? Oh, man. What a painful day. Okay. How old? What's that? I'm curious. What is the level, the age where people think the NDP is a good idea?

You know, like, so John's talking about, no, John's talking about the vote splitting thing, right? Okay. You got the vote split because the Sask United and the Sass party is pulling from a similar demographic. But what point is there a portion of Saskatchewan that has completely forgot about the bad years of the NDP government running it. What age is that? Like, where, you know, like, when do you, when have you forgot about the years that they led? Well, I mean, even if you're around during the years that they led, the common argument

you hear is that the divine conservatives were so bad that the NDP had no choice but to drive everybody away and run every economy into the ground. But the thing that they failed to take into account is that, yeah, there was a whole lot of schools closing and a whole lot of hospitals closing. And the big thing was that there was no opportunity. It wasn't, it wasn't, hey,

let's make this province prosperous. It was, let's just close the doors on everything. And that was their strategy at the time. You know, the weird thing about growing up in Helmont is like, you know, you were a stone throw from Alberta.

Like, I don't even know, you know, like 20 kilometers and you're in Alberta. Well, 19, but, so like,

okay. So you could literally when you turn off a highway 17, which goes right up the border. It literally says Hylmon 19. It literally says 20. It says Hylmon 19. How much you want to put on this? Not enough to go against someone who grew up there,

but I'm pretty sure it's Hylman 19. You argue like somebody from the NDP, you know? Like, I'm willing to back off on this. I'm willing to back off on this. I grew up there my entire life. It's 20 kilometers from the border. And the thing about it is, Back when I was a kid, you come in to Lloyd and you,

and you venture into parts of Alberta and they had these like beautiful paved roads. And he's like, what heck can't says have that? Right. And I'm saying after 2007, right? Slowly things change. And I'm. Now Alberta's got the bad roads.

I mean, it seems pretty clear to me. Nice, simple, easy idea. I don't know. Well, it's a decent way to measure prosperity. It's almost like you can tell someone is a good person if they return shopping carts.

And you can tell if a province is doing good. by how many potholes there are not on the roads. Are you going to get this, are you going to get this Twitter thing figured out or what? I actually don't know why it's not working. You know, you literally do this for a living, folks and it won't,

like the night of all nights, X-Ans isn't going to work for me? It makes zero sense to me, you know? It's absolutely silly. Wait a moment and then try again. I don't know what's going on with that. I don't know what's going on either. Okay,

we got, we got plenty of stuff going on here. Okay, who's next? Well, we're waiting on Chris Barber. Chris Barber's text to me right now. You know, he's dealing with some computer issues. He's got, oh. You know, okay, you know what?

Maybe, you know, granted, this is, this is probably where the left comes out ahead. Because once you reach a certain age and you get jaded with everything to a certain point where you're like, you know what, slash all the government budget. And I'm just going to vote for whoever's going to spend the least amount of money and that's not the NDP. But at the same time, they get the younger. demographic, which can figure out computer stuff. Possible. Yeah, they probably have way better live streams than we do.

The left, not a chance. Well, at least they're working. How many people are watching it on Sean's Twitter right now? Well, I shipped them all over to you. I said, hey, head over to twos. Yeah, no, I get it. That's all right. Yeah, Brendan Blanche says, tell Chris to get out of the grads.

Let's be on it. That's probably the true story. It's probably sitting there working on Big Red, right? Like, I mean, honestly. But those underlights are pretty deadly. Every time, every time I see some truck driving down the road, I'm like, I wonder if that's no, it's not him. And I always get excited.

I'm like, well, maybe he's just going to drive by me one of these days. And I'm going to be able to tell from a mile away that it's him. But I've never, never seen him. Does it shock you that the Greens are running? How is it possible? The Greens have a candidate running in all the ridings. All 61. How is that possible?

I mean, you've got, you know, what's, what's Saskatchewan population? Is it up to one and a half million yet? I don't think so. I think it's like one point, forgive me, one point four. Yeah, somewhere in there. All right. So out of that, you need to find 61 people.

I, but you could say the same thing about the Buffalo, the Saskia United. The conservatives for Pete's sake had 11. A 10 or 11, something like that. Yeah. And there actually, we could get into that real quick. The conservative platform is. very the conservative party of Saskatchewan platform

well they're going to implement no no that's that's Sask United public funds only go to public schools they're going to implement a breakfast and lunch program does that sound like a federal party anybody recognizes that's that's

the Saskatchewan Conservative party they're going to use retired nurses to help fill shortages and increase training spots with some reserved for Saskatchewan born or indigenous students. Ooh, actually, though, they would allow nurse practitioners to operate clinics in

and small communities to assist. And they're going to bring up the wages in Alberta or in Saskatchewan to make them comparable with other places. Zach says only 58. I think the green party is a grift. Well, I brought it up because I was like, I'm sure

Gormley's article said 61 too, didn't it? Well, I thought I saw 61. Zach, maybe we're wrong. We thought we read multiple spots that it said 61. So I mean... So if I go to the general election candidates, there are 59 instances of the word green on that page. Oh, well, then.

Okay. So maybe... So I guess the answer, as in most things, is somewhere in the middle. He says it's a grift. You think it's a grift? Well, I mean, you think about it, like, the problem with the Green Party is, who, you know, in this particular election, for example,

wants to phase out fossil fuels. And we don't have anything to replace them with. It's a pipe dream. It's like wanting to put something sexy on your car. Yeah, but you still have to have the engine driving it. Sure, yeah, you might throw some nice chrome on it or something. But if you don't have the engine driving it, that thing is completely useless. And the thing about it is, is that for all of it,

their policies, they're never going to beat the NDP in terms of potential green outcomes. Because if the NDP wins, everyone's going to move away and they're going to go back to nature. The thing is, you go back to, you remember Chase Barber talking about the Greens and him being like, I don't know if people didn't

tune in for BC, forgive us a little bit, but like one of the things Chase Barber Edison Motors had talked about was the fact, like, the Greens actually isn't that bad of an idea. You can get in there, you're pretty independent from the party. You you have, you know, the ability to maybe do some things.

Interesting. Interesting thought. Throw a little bit of common sense at it. And they're in a situation now, they're in a situation now in BC where they've got pretty much the narrowest majority you could imagine. So they can't have anybody step down. They can't have anybody get sick or retire. And that's, that's a tough thing for, uh, for a party that's heavily vaccinated to go

through four years of. I'm just calling it now. I liked how John was like, you know, the skeptics and they're pretty right. He actually, you know, he did a very, um, a very clean, uh, way of putting it. A very clean dismount. Well, I don't actually, I'm not even sure where he was on all that stuff, but I think he did a very, um, a very clean and succinct way of saying that the people who were hesitant about things.

Seemed to be awfully right on a lot of things. Keep getting proven right. Covindication, you might even call it. You know, I'd love to have some covindication if Chris Barber is sitting there somewhere working on this thing. If he'd hop on, that'd be great. I'd love to see the big guy, you know?

It's like, you know, this reminds me of, you know, you got things buttoned up. So a couple years ago, two years, well, year and change, we had the Alberta Live election stream. Tews doesn't like me bring this out. But that thing was a train fire, while Chris Barber is slowly coming in here,

which is great. But that was like anything that could have went wrong, folks went wrong absolutely I just at one point I'm just like curled up under the the table just like just leave me alone I'm done I'm not I'm not coming I'm not showing my face anymore Tuesday's laughing at me we have my brother Dustin on we had

him moan on yep we had a man leader of the hangar of a night that former leader of the federal libertarian party are you on your second Red Bull yeah nobody watching this what I'm like do other people drink Red Bull? Bull, like twos? I have one and I'm going to be up all night. Basically, it's like, it's an election

live stream thing. I don't know if anybody else remembers, but I wasn't paying attention to what you could see in the corner of the screen. And there was just this giant pile of empty Red Bull cans by the end of the night because it was just, it was absolutely a Schmawsfest to get it going right off the bat. And then I came up that day and it was going 100 miles an hour since four in the morning. And then by the time we were finally done, Cheryl's, Cheryl's got it. Those red bulls aren't good for you,

twos. You got to watch after your health. I'm a, I'm a pinnacle of health. Look at this hair. Do you think it gets this thick from not taking care of yourself? Nobody, nobody was,

yeah, twos is a pinnacle of health. Yeah. Let's go right around Saskatchewan, all the small town ranks and eat cheeseburgers and drink red bulls. Yeah, actually that sounds like a really fun time. It sounds like,

you know what? I wonder if we could get someone to drive us. Like, for example, the guy we have waiting to come on. All right. Chris Barber. He's a truck driver,

business owner from Zipkirt, Saskatchewan. Most know him as Big Red as he was one of the key organizers of Freedom Convoy, and he's currently facing one of the most expensive lawsuits in Canadian history.

We got, which way do I've got a point here? You might see Big Red over two's shoulder. Anyway, and Chris Barber. Just real quick, Chris. Hi, Chris. Hi, Chris.

Just real quick before we get into this, though, this two's fix your hair. You've got a distracting wing at your two o'clock. or don't it's up to you i saw it in the screen and i take the headphones off and it goes well now it's staying up but i was taking the headphones off and it went away and so like if you're watching the very start of it you saw me go like this about 17 times trying to get it to work

and it didn't and the problem with twos his hair is that it plays by its own set of rules and then it breaks those rules too so we're just stuck with what we got folks it's live television But at least you have hair, though. Yes, yes, I do. How are you doing, Chris? Freedom Pondoy has been good to me, right? Do you see it? Welcome to the show.

Welcome to the show, Chris. How's Chris doing tonight? It's been a busy day, but we're kind of catching up here. I went to log onto the computer, and I clicked the wrong breaker on the hot box in here, and I shut the computer up by accident. So I've been frantically watching this computer, like, slowly load, trying to get going again. we're here.

What do you think of today, like today, Saskatchewan election, maybe the build up to it, the lead up to it. What is Mr. Barber? What does Big Red have to say? There's a lot of interesting dynamics in Saskatchewan politics right now,

just like Alberta, just like Manitoba. I'm a little more vested in the Saskatchewan side, I'd have to say. We've got a lot of conservative parties that are like bidding for the same real estate now. And although I know most of these people personally, and I can appreciate and understand

exactly where they're coming from and their platforms. I have a hard time not reminiscing of like late 1990s in Saskatchewan to the buildup of the Saskatchewan party being bored. And I think that's kind of where the conversation needs to go tonight. Well, keep going with that. I know I was just a wee lad in the 80s and 90s, and he's even younger than I am. So please expand on that.

Well, you know, like the NDP has been a ruling part. party in this province throughout the 80s and the 90s. We had a lot of problems, you know, anybody that puts themselves back in those, those memories, I guess, remembering what exactly that transpired in those years. My 21-year-old son is on his way town right now to vote. I don't know if he's done it or you're not. And I was telling him the stories of, you know, like, you know, how when you drive through Pontex, Saskatchewan, how there's an empty, you know, seniors complex now. Well, that used to be a hospital back in the day, but the NDP closed that. Do you remember Highway 15 from Kenniston East?

You know, that used to be a highway, but the NDP shredded that and put it to gravel. Southwest Saskatchewan, a lot of highways went missing back in those days. A lot of people were pissed, pissed off. And I remember those days. And now I see, you know, the Saskatchewan Party, the Buffalo Party, all these people, all these different conservative parties, you know, fighting for the same real estate and again. And it takes me back to those days. Remember when the Saskatchewan Party was born?

It was born because too many. Conservative parties were fighting for the same real estate back in that day. And, you know, I look at what the Wild Rose Party did in Alberta with Jason Kenney and Daniel Smith and that. And I want something like that to happen here. I want, we're splitting the conservative vote right now. Whether they, you want to believe it when they tell you that they're not. I don't believe that for a minute.

I'm pretty strict in the fact that we need to unite these people together. So then you go back to what Gormley. was talking about with basically you want change, get involved in the SaaS party. That's our governing body. Why, you know, a lot of people have problems with Scott Mo and I've got, I've had problems with Scott Moe too. I think, you know, the Saskatchewan party made me so angry at the beginning of October, well, it was October 1st, 2022, or 2021, sorry, when they implemented the COVID vaccine

passport, which was a lead up to why we went east in, in those following months after that. Um, you know, like a lot of people were angry in this country. I know exactly why the birth of the Sask United Party happened. And I, I don't blame, I don't blame Nadine at all for wanting to do that because she felt ostracized by her own party. And, uh, you know, maybe, maybe getting involved in our local, our groups is probably a, it should be a bonus as far as I'm considered. It should be what more people are doing. I don't know if that's necessarily the only solution. The problem, the problem you run into right off the bat is that on the left, is that on the left,

I would say that you have to have uniform agreement in everything they say no matter what. If I see somebody with blue hair, I can pretty much just, I can see them across the street. And I could nail down pretty much every thought they have on every bit of policy. But if you see someone in a cowboy hat and cowboy boots, they're like, well, I don't know. Maybe they think this. Maybe they think that. And the whole splitting the vote thing, the problem I have with it is that that argument is equally valid for every party and every person. Don't vote PPC or you're going to split the vote.

Well, why are the conservatives entitled to that vote? If they really wanted someone other than Trudeau to win, they should all get behind Maxine Bernier. Don't vote Sask United or you're going to get. the NDP. Well, why doesn't all the Sass party people say we're going to put our, we're going to throw our hat in with Sask United and then make sure that we don't have the NDP. Like if it's, and then the other thing you run into is that there's just some really bad candidates out there. And there's, there's people that there's people, um, my federal MP, I would, I would literally vote for Pierre Trudeau before I voted for him. And if getting Trudeau

is that super important? Why isn't it important enough for the Conservative Party federally to run a candidate that I don't despise? Do you agree in 2016? I think it was 16. Rachel Nautilie's win was primarily

because of so many different conservative parties bidding for the same real estate in Alberta? Completely not. Leading up to the election, the highest that the NDP had ever polled in Alberta was 15%. which means that if you split the conservative vote exactly down the middle, you would still have more than double what the NDP had.

The 2015 was literally you had the past decade of the conservative party saying, we're going to do whatever the hell we want. And if you don't like it, you're just going to have to deal with it because what are you going to do? Vote for a bunch of socialists. And then that went on for long enough and it got brazen enough that the people in Alberta said, you know what? This is going to suck for us, but it's going to be even worse for you. So eat a dick conservative party. I agree with you.

But I think we're going down the same route like that in Saskatchewan right now. So why can't we, why can't we get united and get behind that party? Needing this and Ingert Kim, Unified Grassroots in Saskatoon, I've watched them speak now for quite some time. And it's about getting involved with your local parties, becoming a member in that party and then taking leadership in that party. controlling that party, you know, like just like what the left has done in, in federal politics with the liberal party right now. I mean, you've got to admit they've been pretty strategic in what they've done over the course of the last number of years and they've, they've found a way to monopolize on it.

And honestly, it's basically killing the country right now from a conservative standpoint, but I think from any standpoint, it's killing the country right now. They're walking back everything they've been trying to do for years. Is that not something we can do as a conservative party going forward, though? that's my point being in this is, is, you know, like when, when Alberta took the initiative and got candy kicked out and then put Danielle into place,

that was what it took for conservative people to come together, work within, take leadership on their own party and then build from that. I think that had a huge, significant role in taking back Alberta. You still have a lot of fight, I guess, you know,

the NDP's pretty strong when it comes to the union. They always will be. But I think Saskatchewan's kind of going down that same route the last while. Moes wore a lot of people out in this province, mentally, morally, and maybe it's time for a leadership review. Well, I think that regardless of the outcome tonight, if it's anywhere close to the polls one way or the other, Mo is going to be announcing his resignation, I would say within a year. Within a year for sure, but, or sorry, actually, his resignation as leader of the party, but he'll stay on. do what Kathleen Wynn did, where he's not going to run the chance of losing a by-election

when you're down to like, you know, if it's within one or two seats or something like that, he's not going to say, I'm going to step down and we're going to have a by-election and even have the chance of losing that seat. He's just going to say, I'm not going to lead the party anymore. I think a lot of it. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, that was it.

No, I think a lot of people have heard this rumor, though, that after this election, that Mo is going to be stepping down or looking for, we're going to be looking for a different leader anyway. And that's, I think, that's a prime example of when it's time to get involved and then be the selection on where who runs the party going forward, right? Well, here, you know, like, as

we're talking as we go along, because Gormley brought it up, now Chris has brought it up and we got a guest sitting in the back that I would love to hear his thoughts on vote splitting. So why don't we bring in, Ken? He operates Rutherford appraisal group, a professor at Leklin College, ran as a candidate for the Maverick Party

in the Battlefields, Battleford's Lloyd Minster riding during the 2021 federal election. He also has been a part of the group who helped form Saskatchewan United Party. He is the first guest the podcast ever had. Go back in 2019 February 2019. We sat in a little crappy studio and we had like a 32 minute conversation where I was pretty dang nervous for that one. So why don't we invite him? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's also one of the smartest people I've ever met.

Thanks for lying straight to my face there, too. Good to see you, Ken Rutherford, Chris Marber. Thanks for hopping on, Ken. One of the conversation topics of tonight already has been vote splitting and the Sask United or even the Buffalo Party, just so many options from a conservative standpoint. What are your thoughts on vote splitting? And maybe we could start there. Oh, that's a good question. And honestly, it drives me nuts.

because the vote splitting is something that is used by the mainstream parties to scare people into doing what they've always done. I'm not a big fan of a two-party system. And right after Sast United came to be formed, we had Scott Moe already talking about, oh, be careful, you don't vote split because you might get something worse than me. Now, we've got the urban rural divide. Sean, you've talked a lot about this on your podcast, but this urban rural divide, we see a real shift with a city's sure like to go NDP and the rural sure likes to go conservative. And I don't know why, but that's okay, the democratic system. Vote for what you want. That's just fine.

Well, like, I've got stats here. Scott Moe's writing in the 2020 election. He had 80% of the vote. Second place was NDP was 6%. You can split that many ways. We can have three more conservative parties. And the NDP still aren't getting through. It's even worse in our area.

In Colleen Young is the SaaS Party, MLA in our area. 82% of the vote. She had 3,846. Second place, 530 votes. Vote splitting is a minute. Second place was 530 votes? Yes. And so here we are talking about don't, careful, careful, we don't vote

SASC United because we don't want to vote split and let the NDP through. Well, you know, like, it's just not going to happen in these rural areas. Number one, number two, if a SAS United MLA was to make it through, they can still vote for everything that's conservative. Right? It's not like it's lost. It's just a

assuming it's good policy anyway. Yeah. So I look at it like, I'm saddened by the conversation, to be honest, because it's a lot of people just, you know, vote out of fear, right? They're scared of something worse instead of being brave enough to dream of something bigger, you know, and, but it's unfortunate. Now, I also look, what are we at? I looked at the voter turnout in the last election.

54%. 50 high, I got 53. Where are we at right now in the polls, do we know? No, they're closing in an hour. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so I guess on the vote split, I just, the number of people, even in our area, like we're in a rural concertive hotbed in our area, and the number of people that I look at free thinkers and, you know,

freedom people that were against a lot of the mandates and that, well, they're scared of vote splitting, but I couldn't get them to take out a calculator and just calculate, you know, 82% divided by something. I don't know. There's my thoughts. What do you think? Push back on me. Tell me I'm wrong.

Tell me I'm nuts. I guess my biggest thing is it's like the conservative. I know exactly why the Saskia United Party was formed. I completely 100% understand. I was in that same boat when Saskia United was born. But here we are sitting on the edge of an election. And I can't help but think why can't us as conservatives not work together? Everywhere I look, it seems to be a fight lately.

And it's a fight on the conservative side. If we can't fight with the liberals or the NDP, we're fighting internally all the time. And it seems, I've seen it personally the last couple years. And it's just, call me just tired of the fight, I guess. Why can't we work together? Why can't we find common ground with each other of Scott Moe's the problem in the in the Saskatchewan Party, or in the Saskatchewan Party?

Why can't we do a leadership review and have him out? And why can't we put all that focus and all that power in other conservative groups and put it into one where we can be united as one? Fair question, Chris. And I agree with you. I get tired of the fighting myself, but I think the question has to be asked, is Scott Moa conservative? Like, what is it conservative? Right? Like I, the SaaS party was formed out of the liberals and the conservative coming together, number one. Number two, I looked at the federal, at the debt level.

What did they have? 2016, where were we at six billion in debt? Today, we're at $20 billion in debt. So, like, they know their support is in the rural areas, right? So what are they going to say? We're more liberal? Well, that would be a death to their, to their political, right, journeys. So they got to play the conservative card. But are they conservative? What is it the conservative and are they conservative? Or are they left of center?

They've always been labeled as the conservative party of Saskatchewan, I guess. But yeah, you're right. There was NDP. There was liberals and conservatives came together back. What was it, 97 when Saas Party was born? Oh, two's. You're the math, the memory. 96, I think, was the first election they were in.

but I think they were around a little bit before that, like that classic gaff that Brad Wall had where they spelled Saskatchewan wrong. I think that predated that by a few years. Do you remember the Lauren Calvert years? Like somebody mentioned that today and I thought, you know what? I forgot. I didn't want, maybe you guys wanted to forget about that, but the Lauren Calvert years were extremely hard. I remember trucking and running

into Lauren Calvert and Caramport, Saskatchewan at the little gas station there. I'm thinking of myself, holy crap, I'm within distance. to say hi to this guy. Oh, quick shout out. People watching in Maymont, Saskatchewan, saying hi to everybody at the Fielding Wildlife Federation. But please continue, you guys. Well, actually, I was going to hop in here.

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This guy won't tell us where he's from. He says it's the best rink burger, guys. The best rink burger is where I'm from. I'm like, I think a lot of places got problems with that. So anyways, my question is on this whole vote splitting thing. Okay, okay. So when you have one, option and it's conservative and you have another option and it's NDP.

To me it's like, oh, it's, it's super simple. Okay, you vote conservative, you vote NDP. Even if, as Ken points out, you got conservatives and, but they're not doing conservative things. Okay. So then conservatives create something new. In Alberta, it was the Wild Rose. In Saskatchewan right now, it's the Sask United or the Buffalo Party.

I'm sure there's different iterations for each province. And I go, at what point do things have to be so catastrophically bad? that you'll you'll side with a different team and I wonder if it's on you know me and twos we're talking about before we started is it to do with the the the wave of like if sask united was popular and everybody was talking about it would this be a completely different topic because like the conservatives we watched it in bc did we not now it was one verse one i get it but at the time it was bc united and then bc conservative and there was a big fight there and all of a sudden they won and they became the popular thing,

everybody threw on their chips with it, and all of a sudden they're almost government. And I look at Saskatchewan and love or hate the SAS United or the SaaS Party or any of them, right now most voters feel like the answer is the SaaS party. And there isn't another option. Right? Even the PPC, when they won't let them on the national debate, right?

Even though they met the requirements. You go, well, they're not even letting them be a serious party. How can I vote for that? And Ken, I want to be clear when we're discussing this, Ken, I'm, I've been supportive of the SAS party, you, Sask United Party. Like, I remember Saskatoon when they made the debut. We had convoy trucks in that, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the auditorium there. I mean, pretty boy. Yeah, 100% and and nobody can tell me that I wasn't pissed right off.

And when, when Moe implemented the COVID vaccine passport in October 1st of 2023, sorry, 2021. That one would hurt a lot and that one still stings a lot. And I think a lot of people in this province still want some accountability from elected officials for the bullshit that we went through in those dark times. And I think, man, I'm scared about the NDP and the numbers that they've been polling the last while is definitely, it's enough to scare a lot of people right now. Is it not? Can I jump in there, Sean, for me? Yeah. Yeah. This is what you're here for. This is exactly what we're doing. I think, I think those are very fair comments, Chris, and I respect them immensely. Because until I got involved with the Maverick Party,

I was the exact same thought. And honestly, until COVID came along, I overly trusted politicians. And I overly trusted polls and I overly, you know, and to the average person, you know, my life was, my life was good prior to all that. And it still is good. But when you see, you know,

48% conservative, 47% in DPP, 3%, 4% Sask United, you kind of go, oh my, that's close to the tipping scale. Right? And to most people, that's how it looks. But we got to break it down riding by riding, you know,

CA by CA, and go, okay, there are spots where, you know, if you didn't want the NDP to win. And I think we should have more parties on the left and the right in the center,

as far as I'm concerned, get more choice, not less. But, you know, when we get out, if we just ignore the, the poll on the province as a whole,

and we just go into, you know, my area, Lloyd Minster. Well, like, they're just, the NDP just aren't winning here.

probably for the rest of my life, you know? And so it's just not a threat there, right? Because it's on who wins each area and the number of areas you win that we send to Regina that determines, you know, like who holds power in the legislative assembly. And so, but that doesn't matter what I think. It matters what the public thinks. And if you're the two mainstream parties, if I'm them, I look at these mainstream parties as being more like a hockey team that wants to win the NHL Stanley Cup.

up every year as opposed to representing the people. Their job is to keep their political lives intact so that their team wins. And so if they can say, hey, don't split the vote, don't split the vote, because that could be bad, right? It's like, well, Sean, in our book club, we read a book by Nassim Teleb called Skin in the Game. That's like, okay, let me get this straight. So if Scott Moe says, don't split the vote or it'll get something worse and you believe that, isn't it like walking into a Ford dealership and ask them what type of vehicle would be the best?

And when the salesperson says, well, duh, it's Ford, you know, like, it's like, no kidding, you're going to say Ford because that's in your best interest. It's bias, right? And so I just look at it, like, I think we're just going to think deeper. And I feel like, oh, I can only speak for myself and my home community is we're just hardworking people that are sometimes too trusting. And I think if we keep believing the people that have been, if we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to keep getting what we're getting. And if you can name you, and if you keep, if you keep, if can name me one SASS party MLA who stood up for us during COVID to say vaccinated or unvaccinated. It's your choice.

We need to stay together as a community. You name me one. I'll tell you maybe there's hope. But you won't name me one. And we're all going to say it's Nadine Wilson. And I know there's a story of how she came. But she did stand up. I listened to her in the legislative assembly, read something out in the middle of those dark days that brought tears to my eyes.

And that was the only one. And so I look at it like they play. I don't know. I don't know, Chris. It's a pretty deep topic. I don't know. We probably shouldn't just delve on COVID, but I look at like whatever metric we're using, education, health care.

Tax cuts. Tax cuts. You've got the NDP calling for tax, more tax cuts than the conservatives. Right? You know, like this is upside down. So I don't know. I'm glad I'm voting outside of the district of Swift Current because I know that during COVID era, our MLA for Swift Current was pretty much had.

had the bug. He was pro-mandate, pro-everything. It was absolutely ridiculous. And I'm thankful that I don't vote inside that district because I don't think I could do it, to be honest with you. I wouldn't be voting the SASS party. That's fair. I mean, and Ken brings up a really good point. The one thing that really hasn't been talked about a lot in this election, I don't think anyway, or at least that I haven't really seen, is anybody talking about everybody's talking a little bit about tax cuts here and there but nobody's really talking much about reducing the size of government.

The NDP said they're going to get rid of $3 billion worth of Sask Party waste. But to the best by knowledge, they didn't substantiate that. They didn't say, okay, we're going to cut this here or that there or anything else like that. How much? And $3 billion. And why only three? I'm sure you could probably cut about 30 or 40 or 50. But isn't the NDP all about more government?

They are. I'm just saying if they're looking for government waste and they're actually serious about it, they'd find a lot more. It is interesting that the NDP are calling for smaller government and tax cuts to a conservative party. Well, and that's the thing, right? Just because they're called the conservative party

doesn't mean that they're actually doing anything conservative, right? I mean, this is kind of the transgender argument, gentlemen, when you think about it. You know, just because somebody says that they're a chick does not necessarily mean that they've got all the stuff that would make them a chick. And just because a party says that they're a conservative party doesn't mean that they have the apparatus to be conservative. I'm going to tell it right now. This is to be the only place tonight where you're watching live election coverage where you could get the conservatives compared to a trans female.

I think that's what you were just doing. Tell me I'm wrong. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. I just look at the NDPs are calling for tax cuts. I don't know. I just, maybe these boxes that we try to put everybody into, like there's a few things that the NDPs

that make sense, right? Like, what were they calling for? Are they calling for removal of the gas tax? I don't think anybody is I don't know why I think the Sask United Party is the Sask United Party says they're going to get rid of the fuel tax and they're going to cut PST

and a half and I think they're the only people saying they're going to get rid of the 15 cents liter fuel tax. See somebody should Google Google check us. We need a what's Joe Rogan's Jamie Jamie. Yeah, we need Jamie. I thought there's a tax cutter two of the NDP we're calling for.

No, I'm, you know. Tuesday is going to look it up and I tell you what. Why don't we bring in the next guy? guys, because he might actually know. He's the Prairie Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Gage Hobrick. So Gage, welcome, welcome to the group. Tuse is going to spout something here. Okay, yeah, real quick.

The party would find more than $50 million by cutting waste. I had that number wrong. And they would have a cumulative cost of, the platform would have a cumulative cost of $3.65 billion in spending over the next four years, is what the NDP were saying that they were going to do. Which is, I don't really even know what I'm reading there. I don't even know what I'm reading there. Gage,

Welcome to the show. This is the perfect time to bring up. Somebody who taxpayers. This guy stares at the money side of it. Tell us the money side of it from your eyes, Gage. Because we're all talking about different things. When you're looking at this election, you're looking at the different parties, what sticks out to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation?

because the one thing I think a lot of us enjoy is you don't care if it's liberal, conservative, NDP, green. If they're going to walk in and cut government spending and do smart things for the people, you guys applaud it. So, Gage, what's sticking out to you? So the first good thing is that we're actually kind of seeing some tax cut promises from both the NDP in Saskatchew Party. So I was listening in the minute there.

So the NDP are saying they are going to cut the fuel tax, but only for initial six months. They're copying the Wob Canoe Playbook in Manitoba on that one. But, you know, so far, Wab Cano's extended it a couple of times. So you could think that probably if the NDP get in, they do that as well. Also reduce a little bit of stuff in PST they want to do. They headed the SaaS party. They're promising a lot more really specific income tax exemption things that could save you more money if you fit into those categories.

So the problem is, like, the NDP cut is good because everybody gets something. The SaaS party's a little more along the edge because, like, you save the most if you're a family of four. I'm not a family of four, you know, so it wouldn't expect me as much. Then the main problem with both parties is that when it comes to debt and deficits, they're not doing enough for taxpayers, right? The SaaS party says they're going to balance in three years. Last election, they said they balanced this year, which they're not doing. And then the NDP says they're going to balance in four years, right?

So they're just waiting to kick it down the road until the next election. Well, isn't this the thing I say about politicians all the time? They're just going to say whatever they need to say to get in. You know, it's one of the things when I had Danielle Smith on before she was the premier is I'm like, I'm going to hold you to that. And I, you know, John Romick, I got to have John on leader of the Sask United Party. I said, you know, you say all these great things. You get elected.

I'm going to be like, I'm going to get to stare at you and I have this evidence. This is what you're going to do. And you watch it, you know, like Donald Trump to pull in the United States said he's going to get. Let's just get rid of all taxes for people. And we'll go to tariffs. They're going to get rid of. Yeah, well, I don't know if he was actually serious in that or he was just kind of. He went on Rogan and said it again.

But. Right. he just told hundreds of millions of people that he's like serious about it. Did you listen to it? I don't think he was he was just sort of talking like it was a funny idea sort of thing. I don't think he was officially saying. I don't think he thought it was a funny idea.

I'm Donald Trump and I'm going to Fair. Fair. Fair. He didn't do that. Now he did say he was going to get rid of taxation on tips, which by the way When is the U.S. election? November 5th? November 5th. That's going to be an interesting time. My daughter's... June in here and watch it.

I will be here. My daughter lives 20 miles north of Washington, D.C. right now. I'm a little nervous going into that. Fair enough. Sorry. Tell her to buy some plywood. Going back to Gage and the money side of this, though, it's interesting when you go like, well, they said they were going to balance the books,

and then they didn't. And now they're saying, well, we'll balance the books in another three years. Well, I mean, at what point are we going to have somebody do what they say? Or this is just, this is just politics. Well, I think it's part of the problem with the Saskatchewan Party in this election, why we've seen the NDP go up so much, right? The SaaS party, and their guiding principles, they even say they maintain a firm commitment to balanced budgets,

but they've only done two of the last 10. So they keep saying that the NDP is going to bring us back to times of closure, higher taxes, more debt. But right now under the SaaS party, we're seeing higher deficits, more debt, and no substantial tax cuts. So that's why a lot of people are willing to move the other side because there's nothing happening with the guys who said they were going to do it. So why not pick somebody else? It's been 17 years.

That's one of the frustrating things that I think comes back to what everybody was talking about with the vote splitting before is that if you've got a party, for example, that has been running things for, I don't know, let's say 17 years and they're not balancing the budgets. What's the more pragmatic solution to slowly work your way up within that party until you get to a point where, you know, 10, 15 years down the road, you can actually swing a stick big enough to get a balanced budget out of them? Or do you think, okay, well, you know, why don't we offer a fresh alternative? It's a fair question. I like it, they're both hard. They're both very hard. Yeah. Right. These are established parties with, you know, control centers. And, you know,

you just don't waltz in there and say, hi, I'm a nice guy. I'm here to take over the party, right? There's, there's gatekeepers and all the rest. But it's same that keeps coming to mind. You know, one of Sean sponsors is rec tech. You know, Al Lorenz is a good friend of mine. And his statement always rings in my brain is no change comes from a place of comfort. And I think when people are really ready for a change is when their stomachs are hungry or when the fridge is empty or when, you know, inflation goes to such a rate or the debt catches up to you or unemployment or, you know, so I think it's important to keep multiple parties going actually. You know, I'm not just for Saskia. I think it's good to you.

keep multiple parties going because they all have an expiry date. Any party that gets in and has power for too long, you know, they get a little comfortable in their seats. They've got a few too many buddies hanging around, right? They get themselves as a Sky Palace. Yeah, yeah. And I think that would happen to anybody. You know, like what's the statement? Absolute power corrupts absolutely kind of thing, right? And so I just look at it like if it's not Saskia, it's turned now and it might not be. Maybe it's somebody else. Maybe it's another party that's going to get started up between now and then. On the left or the right, I just, I think people are hungry. hungry for truth. They're hungry for

something that's real. I can speak for myself. I'm so tired of listening to politicians with their gobbledy goop. Promises here, promises there. And then we all forget. And then we all wake up three days before the election. And they put up a thing that says this and this and this. We get scared to vote splitting. So we all vote the same way. And then we complain about it for four years.

I'm ready for something different. And so there's a few thoughts. Well, go ahead. No. No, no, no, no. By all means. Well, the thing that comes to mind is the pace of government, right? Like, how quickly can things happen? It's how quickly they need to have them happen to not lose their job, generally speaking.

Generally speaking, isn't it? Can I enter, can I, can one on a question though? When it comes to cities of the Saskatoon Regina and when we come down to the vote splitting, do you, is your any concern there when it comes to the amount of NDP power there is? If we have two conservative parties like SAS party, SAS United Party, is there any way in the city centers like Saskatoon or Regina where we, we could essentially split the vote by having two of the conservative parties. Did Saskia United run in Saskatoon and Regina?

I got more involved with the local CA. So I'm not as involved provincial anymore. But I'm sure there's maybe one or two riding, Chris, where it's neck and neck. And I can't identify those. But it appears to me, and Sean, you should probably jump in on this or any of you, is what's occurring is a very rural urban divide. Right. And it's almost like the cities have gone to the NDP.

and never to return, and the rural has gone to the, well, what they think is conservative. And so I don't know if there's as much of a battle there. No, there might be two or three areas, Chris. But I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the cities are growing at a faster rate than the rural's. And the days might be numbered, right? Nadine Nessa chimed in and said they have four in each city. Well, there go. And I'm not sure.

So Regina has 11 writings and Saskatoon has 12. I guess that's my concern. I know in the rural area, people are pretty dead set on who they're voting for. And I know there's a good, John's doing an amazing job in this region right now. I've been listening to people that have been able to make it to the town halls that he's been having and what he's saying is really resonating

with a lot of citizens, a lot of residents of the rural right now. I wish we could break through that dynamic in the city center is a little bit better like Saskatoon or Regina. Because those are the strongholds that we've faced. And there's more, let's face it, the population in rural, Saskatchewans dying anywhere in the rule right now. know and people are moving to the city centers and that's creating one hell of a political divide.

Well, I mean, it's that way all across, well, Western Canada for sure. We're going to start looking. Even Ontario. Ontario, rural votes are primarily conservative in your city centers. You go like Toronto basically mandates the whole province. There's a huge divide between northern Ontario and southern Ontario. A lot of people in the north actually want to be there to be two different provinces there. they want to split. I was amazed to have heard that in my travels in the last number of years.

Well, as somebody who lives in Western Canada, I can completely relate to the idea of feeling alienated by a bunch of entitled uppity douchebags in a big city deciding everything that happens from thousands of miles away when they have absolutely no skin in the game and no understanding of what happens locally. And trust me, when they really want to show you how it works, they invite you to that city for like 12 months so you can. and spend lots of good quality time in that city. You know, I haven't even asked you. Chris, you know, actually, you know, with a few minutes left with Gage,

Gage, we appreciate you hopping on. Yes. Welcome, welcome to the crapshoot that they should become. We've got all kinds of love for the CTA. Yes, we do. And I want to make sure that we get a couple more thoughts before, you know, we've got to let you go because I know you got other commitments and everything else. When it comes to this election, what's going on?

The money, the dollars, the cents. You got people tuning in from all over the plane. what is any other thoughts you have whether it's nDP sass party sask unite it doesn't matter we want to make sure that you know we appreciate you hopping on and doing some things here for us and having a voice with us so is there any final thoughts before we let you out of here and then we'll get to my thought on chris and his trial geez louise we haven't even brought it up well you know from our perspective looking at taxpayers the biggest thing that both parties have to do this time is actually commit to doing something about the debt for years in a

opposition, the NDP have kept calling out the Saskatchewan Party for overspending, rightly so. And now when they have the chance to maybe foreign government, they said they're not going to do it for four years. It's clear they're not trying to put huge emphasis on this big issue, even though that the debts at the highest has ever been, 200% increase increase in. And then the same thing in Saskatchewan Party. Scott Mowe got up in the debate and talked about how the, if the NDP win, they're going to spend all your money and increase taxes. But he hasn't reduced taxes meaningfully in a while either. both of them are talking like either one is the enemy and either of them aren't doing too much for taxpayers right now

at least the Saskatchewan party has said they want to do that but it hasn't been the case and kind of taxpayers are looking for better from our perspective okay are there any of the quote unquote upstart parties that you're looking at their platform from an economic standpoint where you're like hey you know what the um

what do they call themselves the Saskatchewan progress party um for example uh says Hey, you know what? Something they're saying makes a lot of sense. Anything like that? Well, the most I've seen is probably from the Saskatchewan United and I like a lot of the stuff, right? Obviously, slashing the PST is awesome. That hurts poor people the most, gives the most tax relief. Also on the fuel tax thing there, same as the NEP, a good end. But I would say that when we're looking at upstarts in either way, it's kind of the same as the NEP. They say, if you get us in, we're going to solve all of the problems tomorrow. And part of the problem with upstar parties in any parties is they tend to promise the world.

So you're going to make sure we're looking at it anyway. It's got to be a little realistic. especially when it comes to we're going to cut all the taxes, but somehow not slash all the spending. The most serious comment you can get from someone new would be wholesome, huge cuts to things that need to be cut in order to get that budget balanced. Okay, well, here's, I don't know if this is something you can get into or not,

but what's one or two or maybe even 73 different glaring examples of something that whoever takes the reins tonight could just slash, just cut and burn, completely sever that department off or that bit of spending or whatever else. What's some of the most irresponsible provincial spending you've seen in Saskatchewan lately that you'd like to see get rid of? Well, part of the main problem is that every single budget, the government has 11 main areas that they spend in and every budget they spend more in every single one. You know, we saw after the last budget, the government decided to spend 100 grand on itself advertising how great its budget was. You know, it was only. It was only,

a year ago. Only a hundred grand. Took a $6,000 flight to North Battleford, which would have been a three and a half hour drive. Yeah, that was the former finance minister from Humbold. Exactly. The biggest one to get, we get to total balance is that the Saskatchewan government spends about a billion dollars a year of taxpayer money handing out, hand out to corporations

in some form or another. Everyone who works the regular nine to five pays their taxes. The Saskatchewan government takes a billion of those dollars. and hands it up to corporations. The government shouldn't be trying to pick winners and losers in that. If we got rid of that a billion dollars, we'd have a surplus tomorrow, use it to pay down the debt, or cut some taxes.

I like it. Okay, before we let you out of here, I forgot to do it with Ken, Chris, and now, Gage. So we've got to do predictions before we let you out of here. We'll start with Gage. Gage, what's your prediction for seats? 61 seats total. What's your prediction for tonight?

I'm thinking just kind of based off of what I see out here is that the SaaS party kind of eke it out in the 34-36 range. The NDP always you're doing a lot better in the polls, but I think that's just going to lend to a lot stronger results in the urban ratings they already have and pick up a couple of those, but probably not able to get it done if I had to guess. If I'm doing my math, correct. Am I right? Probably not. 36, 25, right? That's what I hear there. I don't know another.

he dies of a heart attack on live television folks, that's his third Red Bull. I'm like, anybody else walking? Just like, like, drinking seven red bulls in one city. He's hanging from the room thing doing this.

He's hanging from the room. Ken, Ken, if you were, if you were tossing out your prediction for tonight, what would you have? If I would have went through all the numbers of all the writings, I'm a numbers guy,

so I'd prefer to think first, talk second. But if you're making me say, something. I'd love to see Sask United grab a couple seats. I'm guessing Sask United does come out with another majority with a bit and a few more seats to the NDP than

we had in the last election if I had to guess. So balance that out for me, Sean, 61, less two we're down 59. You got 59. Yeah, so through what's that two's? I was just going to say, you know, when you look at... Wait a second, let him finish here. I went 40, 21. Okay, so if you got

59 left, are you saying 40 to 19. Ooh. Or are you thinking they get a light at a Sass party. Okay. So what number do you like? 38? Sure.

Let's go 38. 38 and let the balance the NDP. 21. Now, just to interject before we get to Chris's, I think it's interesting that if there was going to be one pivotal election where you'd want

a couple Sask United seats, this would probably be it. Because if it goes, if it goes something like 29, 292 and 30 for example. Now all of a sudden you've got what BC almost had. Well, you got provincially what the NDP did to the liberals and then, oh wait, the block did to the liberals.

Yeah. And you'd have that happening in the province. That could be interesting. Yeah, two's all. I'd like yours. I'm going to go with wishful thinking. I'm going to go with. Oh, that's not my prediction.

I'm just saying this. I'm going to make it my prediction because that would be. Okay. That would keep both parties accountable. Right. Yeah. You got to dance and negotiate and right. So I'd like that'd be ideal.

Chris, Chris, what do you got for a prediction? What do you think? I would almost, I would like to say it's going to be, it's going to be a minority government. I think that there's some lessons that need to be learned in this province here.

I think maybe low 30s for, I don't know. I don't know numbers and well enough in the different polls, but I'd like to see Saskia United gain a couple seats. I want them to be the balance of power between the NDP and the Saskatchewan party. Low 30s. So what does that put it at to? Well, 31 gives you a majority.

Yeah. So 29? Probably 30. Okay, 30. I would like 30, 31 kind of thing. I would see. So 32 and 29, right? I'm doing my math there, correct?

Okay. All right. All right. So everybody's going to go with. No, two to the Saskia United, I think, Sean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 32 to the United and 29 to the NAP.

Gage, any final thoughts before we let you out of this thing? We do appreciate. First off, I got to give a shout to Chris Sims because every time I'm like, hey, I just need to get somebody from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation on because you guys are wonderful. We love everything that you're doing. And I get to need all these new faces now. Gage, any final thoughts before we let you out? And we appreciate you hopping on and give us some time tonight. Well, I think it's clear to say that people in Saskatchewan have some concerns about everything.

So whatever government gets in tonight should probably not take any support the electorate from granted and actually spend the next four years doing things for time. taxpayers instead of just coasting along. Sweet. Well, I appreciate you coming on and doing this. We'll let you out of here. Thank you very much. It was nice meeting you. Yeah. Thanks, gentlemen. Have a good rest of your night. See how long it goes. All right. Thank you. Now, I should have warned Chris and Ken when they came on. I'm like,

you're going to stay on for probably till the top of the hour. We've got lots of different people coming on. Let's keep them on all night. I know. I'm like, I got, I got big red on the, you know, on the thing. he's on the background. You know, you get the point. Okay. So if I'm going back to what Gage was talking about,

it's like the, am I hearing that correct that the NDP is the one that's talking about, you know, other than the Sask United, Sask United has talked about cutting things. The NDP is the only one talking about maybe doing some things because they're physically responsible. Yeah, but they're picking the can down the road. Right.

But yeah. Well, six months and then also four years. Yeah. but yeah it seems as though they're here's the thing with the SaaS party is if you've got the NDP coming up your right side maybe you just need to change lanes a little bit right yes right yeah

is there any focus in the future after tonight's election is there any focus in the future to try and wrangle in you know can the SAS United Party try and find common ground within, like, let's say Mo leaves, steps down like everybody's projecting him too. Well, I mean, with this election, if it's anywhere close to what's projected, he's, he's finished as leader anyway.

Yeah, but sorry, continue. Is there ways for, you know, the Saskatchewan Party to work within the Saskatchewan party to try and wrangle them back to where the basis where voters, where Saskatchewan residents want them? you're asking me, Chris, or you ask you, Sean? No, I'm asking. Going forward, let's say we do wind up with a minority government in the province here.

Is there a way where we can hold the Saskatchewan Party a little bit more accountable, but get work with them going forward? Well, the balance of power scenario would certainly do that all on its own, wouldn't it? Yeah, that's true. It would force those hands. I don't know, like, I, another common friend. of Mon and Sean. It's actually two as you know as well, Tanner here in Lloyd Minster. Yeah. Oh, we should have had him on. But he's not a kid. He's not Saskatchewan.

I don't care. Any time, like, we should have him on every week. But you know what? He, he, he over time has talked me into realizing that I was wrong. I look at it, Chris, like, we're looking at these political parties to come save us. And I don't think it's their responsibility to save us. I think it's a responsibility to save ourselves. Right. individual people, individual homes, individual families, individual groups, you know, communities are strong, then by default, they demand strong leaders. And I think right now we're just kind of saying, we're just looking for the next person that's going to come along and tickler ears and tell us, you know, we're going to make your lives all good again. And so I just think, I don't, I don't, to come back to the SAST party, I don't know, Chris.

I mean, you know the story. And I'm sure there's good people in the Sass party. party, I'm sure. I just, I was very disheartened through, through the, all the COVID and, and lots of discussions and lots of people that were, throughout the province that had similar stories. I, I've yet to hear a single apology. We could have done better, you know, and so it's like, you know, people would say to me, oh, but Ken, you know, Mo was, Mo was the least, what is it, the least harsh. The least bad. The least bad. Right. So that's right. We have to stay with, like, you can do what you want. But, you know, fool me once.

Shame on you, right? It will be twice. Shame on me. Somebody needs to be accountable for the way needing was treated through the pandemic. And I remember the people in general. You know, like think of the people that were hurt,

you know, and it's not a no-vax thing. It's a, it's a, you're telling me we have a right-leaning conservative party that took on a total totalitarian, I demand you do this, and I've lost my patience with you.

And now we're just going to get tied up in tax policy and kind of forget that, you know, to kind of say, it's like, I don't know, man. Like I, My basement is literally, if you can see around me right now, it is a signature for the people of Canada. And the amount of things that people have sent me for the last couple years just being involved with the freedom movement like I have been.

I've had people cry on my shoulder. I've had people tell me heart-wrenching stories of desperation. And we want accountability yet from our elected officials for the way we were treated there. And I can't stop what I'm doing until we, we're. start to hear that. I think we're getting closer. I honestly do. I think we're just need some more heads to roll first in a nicely way. Who more than you, Chris? As a guy who's facing impending litigation, that was a great addendum to your statement.

Before I bring in Lee Harding, because I could see him sitting there. Chris, just quickly, where is the trial sitting at? So we're waiting for verdict right now. We have a check-in date with the judge of November 26th. We have no idea when verdict will be. happening, but Tamara and I are still facing 10 years in federal prison. A lot of people were asking about the lawsuit. There's a $300 million lawsuit against us right now from the Citizens of Ottawa with Zexe Lee, the lead plaintiff and Paul Champ, downtown Ottawa, a lawyer. We were in court for that this morning. We have a reserved decision on an appeal for an anti-slap motion that we filed. Yeah, it's been 12 months of trial in Ottawa. We've been gone from home 105 days

and that we've been in traveling or sitting in Ottawa or waiting for trial or sitting there for a weekend. We've spent 45 days in the courtroom for mischief. Now, does anybody point out during the proceedings, I don't know if you're allowed to say this or not, but has anybody pointed out in your defense that being forced to spend that much time in Ottawa should be a punishment in and of itself? You know, I've actually gone quite fond of the city. We've got a very, very big group of supporters. and he will get people from the downtown core

that come to the porthos. You know what they should make him? The nighttime mayor. Yes. You should apply for the nighttime mayor of Ottawa. You'd probably have that place booming, you know? I do. I was walking.

A lot of people don't know this, but we took the camper out for the last segment of trial. And so we had my little dog Zippy. And one day we decided I took Zippy for a walk downtown. I got a text message from one of my CBC friends in the newsroom. And he said, I'm getting reports of a big, scary trucker and a cute little dog walking down Wellington. Can you confirm? And I said, nobody has said anything to me,

but I've been walking down the street. And he said the room is a buzz because Big Red is walking down the street in Wellington right now with his dog. Okay. Thank you for the update. Man. Okay. He ran as a candidate. We're going to bring in her next one way. I mean, this is going to be interesting. We're going to slowly. Oh, and Lee popped out of the screen. We'll wait for Lee to come back. Because we got people waiting. I'm like, this is where it gets interesting. Because when we were doing the BC live election. We had like screens coming in everywhere. People.

Yeah, we had, we had six different screens up at one point. But Lee's just working with his green screen, it looks like. I think he's there now. Lee, are you good? Give us a thumbs up.

If you are, we'll bring you in. Yeah, okay. So he ran as a candidate for the PPC in the 2019 federal election in Swipkern. He's known for his work as a journalist and think tank researcher.

He contributes to several publications, including the Epoch Times, where he writes on various topics, often related to policy, education, and politics here in Saskatchewan. Of course, I'm talking about Lee Harding.

So, Lee, thanks for hopping on with us. Thank you. I hope to be not one of the heads rolling in the nicest possible way, courtesy of Chris. Good to see, Lee, good to see you. Yeah, great to see you all. Lee, for, you know, one of the early questions I've pretty much asked everybody as they hop on, you know, because we have people tuning in from all over Canada. When it comes to this Saskatchewan election, what sticks out to you?

Well, not much. And that suggests that the incumbents will probably win again. Again, you know, what I've heard out here is that probably, I mean, there is no big major provincial issue. There's been a few simmering ones. There's been a few things nibbling on the edges. And it's not clear to me that any of these will overthrow the Saskatchewan Party government. This is, first of all, a referendum in some ways on their COVID handling. And unlike many of us, freedom people. The majority of people are okay with the way that this government handled the pandemic. They're believing the mainstream news and they're believing that

Saskatchewan did as well as any. It was probably somewhat of a lighter touch than some other more notorious provinces. Others of us will not forget the Premier being at the stadium in a commercial saying let's get to 70% vaccination so we can fill this stadium. And it was actually the Saskatchezer Rough Riders that decided that they would not honor the season tickets of people who were not vaccinated. So that's not entirely his doing. But a lot of people remember this and justifiably so. So I do know some people. I know a lady in the Yorkton area. She's been waiting for the chance to campaign against the SAS Party government ever since that happened, ever since her father died within a week of getting his second COVID shot. And that's, that's

part of what's going on here and I think part of why Sask United and some of the right leading alternative parties have gained some ground in this province. At the same time, things are okay economically as best as you can do under the oppression of our Lord Sauron, aka Trudeau in Ottawa. Let's not give Sauron such a bad name, but please continue. I apologize. I don't know. Maybe the Peace Tower is going to have a big red flaming eye at the top of it, just watching us all on brand. As the orcs and their anti-hate network come after all of us. But no, I think that go ahead.

Someone wants to say something. Oh, I was just going to say, well, of course the orcs are coming in because it's racist to ask for their passports. You know the orcs will give their passports and abide by all laws of Middle Earth. So, yes, people are more concerned about that election. I've heard that from Sass Party people that the election that Saskatchewan people really want is the federal election. And of course, that is not in our control. It might be in China's control, but it's not in our control. But I do think that this scandal that is emerging and continues to unfold with foreign interference

might actually be enough to topple the government. You need something that's so embarrassing that the opposition parties that know their time is up, most of the MPs when this election is called that even they can't really justify hanging on like this. But in this election, we've just had some things on the side. So I was sitting in the spring session of the legislature. There are many, almost all the days reporting for Western Standard. And the NEP was picking on the SAS Party for health care failures. Now, a long, long time ago when the NDP was in power, the SAS Party did the same thing to them.

but it was more at that time things like certain people with conditions that couldn't get drug coverage. But now the NDP was trotting out a whole lot of people that had health care issues, and they were legitimate sobering issues. But at the same time, government can't be all things to all people at all times. And that's part of the problem is that we have a single payer system that is solely funded by the taxpayer that is inadequate like any kind of public monopoly will be. We are exactly where any economists predicted we would be in our health care crisis. Well, economics right off the bat is just weighing different tradeoffs, right?

It's not right solutions or wrong solutions. It's what are you going to give and what are you going to give up for it? So you're absolutely right. Please continue. Yes. And there's no actual incentive for us to do anything more efficiently because you're not paid by how many people you actually serve. The only exception to that is if you have a private clinic that is getting paid per surgery for what it is doing.

So the SaaS Party's reputation took a bit of a hit in this one. I mean, we have this problem in Saskatoon where you had a Saskatchewan company that was doing amazing rubber products. And they had been given assurances by Premier Moe when he was still only the environment minister. He came to him and said, what do you at Shercom need to rebuild your big, facility that just burned down. I said, well, we need a long-term contract to guarantee us access to the shred tires. Now, maybe the SAS party started in good faith, but they put this in the hands of a nonprofit, which basically could not, would make its own decisions. And so Mo had no longer had the power to fulfill his promise. And the result now is that Shurcom is out. And a California

based company is recycling all of our tires. And some of the... We talked about that on the mashup like a year ago. Yeah. And they put Christine Tell on the file. And it was, I mean, if she was investigating a suspicious activity as a police officer, she would not have treated it the way she treated this one. I mean, it was, you know, I don't know, I don't want to know.

I have nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. And the SaaS Party government just did not look good on this one. but it's one of those ones where you've decided you're not going to intervene. And so you just have to weather this until people forget or you hope they forget. We just had a bunch of firings at Shercom. I think there were 71 employees that got fired. So this was a Saskatchewan success story that has given way to a California company that is doing next to nothing of any use with these tires.

So it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good for a pro-business Saskatchewan development, narrative for a government. Well, and you're absolutely right about the forgetting or hope people would forget, because I had completely forgotten about that. That would have been a great thing for me to have in my notes here tonight. And it just completely alluded me that, hey, you know what? This is actually a really good example of a conservative party doing the exact opposite

of what you would expect them to do. You know, before we can carry on, we got Angela Schmidt sitting in the background. I want to bring her in as well. This is going to be, we're going to be. we're going to be in a real round cable here. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's good. But I want to remind people, too, as we close in on the 8 o'clock hour, we're 12 minutes away,

you're going to start to see things start to trickle out where we can actually talk about numbers and everything else as well. Right. You're talking about all the Red Bulls I'm drinking. That too. So we're going to welcome in Angela Schmidt, along with her family. She owns and operates a dedicated organic farm near Carrot River, which I've been fortunate enough to stay at, actually. It was pretty spectacular, if I might say. So she spent nearly 20 years working with the SaaS party.

in various positions before working with the Maverick Party and later the Sask United Party. So please, Angela, thanks for hopping on with us tonight. Hi, Angela. Can you hear us, Angela? Well, she might be a little delay. I'm not getting audio. Just a minute. Well, there we go.

Welcome to live streaming. This is the way it happens when it's live. It always happens, yes. Somebody you was asking in the comments, Lee, if you can play that. that grand piano behind you. The fictional grand piano will not be played. The Revolutional not be held by, no heads will roll here at the Harding household, not including my shining one.

No, I did want to mention while Angela brings your audio online or that gets rectified. The education issue was big and it dominated the spring session. And it was kind of odd because the teachers make more than most of us make. And yet in the. end, it wasn't actually more money that they were looking for, it was assurances over class size and complexity. So the salary aspect of this has already been handled. And it's a bit of a political victory, I think, for the SaaS party, because in Alberta, even under Klein, when he was knocking down hospitals in Calgary and playing hardball with the other unions, the teachers

got great deals on their pension. They would buy out, buy out the pension shortfalls and liabilities. The teachers won over and over. And on this one, the SAS party, you know, kind of grounded out. And of course, unfortunately, parents and children are caught in the middle of these contract disputes. So the teachers have lost some purchasing power. It's not that they're not well paid, but the big issue is class size and complexity. And this has all been left to an arbitrator now who will decide that part of it in December. So maybe, I don't know if the teachers were thinking, well, maybe the NDP will win in this selection or maybe the SaaS party just wanted the issue to go away but either way it has is waiting

for December so it'll be important to see how that goes it will be important for school boards and especially for me if I win at the school board here in Regina but this is another issue that dominated and I think that a lot of people think well just give the teachers what they want we appreciate teachers but it's it's not that simple all the families that are sending their kids to school will be paying, would be paying more taxes to pay a higher teacher's salary. And so there's other things to consider here. And also there's capital budgets that come out of the provincial budget as well to build the new schools that we need. So if we had an unlimited supply of money, we could do all kinds of things, but we don't.

And you have to balance interest. Okay, I wonder if she can hear. Angela, can you hear us now? Yes, I can. Can you hear me? Oh, hey. Yes, we can. Yes, we can. Okay, excellent.

Well, we appreciate you hopping on with us and discussing some things. When it comes to the SAS collection, we've been talking about a lot tonight, what sticks out to Miss, Mrs. I should say, Schmidt. Well, first of all, I'm so anxious to get on the show because I think we have a lot of testosterone so far, lots of great stats, lots of good numbers. but I think I'm really happy to give a bit of perspective on the female side of things. What is standing out for me is the absolute lack of policy and platform by both the SAS party and by the NDP. And if anyone has listened to John Romick and the SAS United platform or Reddit on their website,

there are some real solutions coming through that we're not hearing at all. from the other parties. And a lot of the other smaller conservative parties, we're not hearing them at all. They simply don't have a voice. That's the really big thing. And I think secondly, I think we, I have a whole list of things here that I'd like to talk about

because the two mainstream parties are not talking about them. But let me know where you want me to go. I got lots to say. What's the biggest thing you think that, the two main parties are trying to quietly ignore? I was a long time South Party supporter and very active and getting in and involved as Chris promoted during his talk. I've been there.

I've done that. I've been a volunteer. I've done a lot of work for the South Party in the background. And in 2020, the lack of leadership and then the provincial mandates and the lying and Right right from our Premier, I was looking for statistics to back up what he was saying. It just wasn't there. So I was looking deeper and deeper, but to defer the authority of decision making to bureaucrats in the department and having them speak to us every day on the television was absolutely appalling to me. We have 61 seats, 61 politicians, elected politicians, and not one of them was either a lot of them.

allowed to speak on behalf of their constituents or I was just a guess. I'd never seen anything like it. And I just don't even know where to go. But to back that up, I got involved because I needed to have a voice and I was so frustrated. I got involved, got interested in, oh, what's this Brexit movement doing? Because I guess the psychological aspect of that is we need to put pressure on the reigning government. They've been in power way too long with way too big of a majority. So maybe there's room for the people to put a lot of pressure on the SAS party.

And that movement did morph into an organization that was very credible. And so I was invited. I was very happy to be invited to help on the organizational setup of what did get labeled the Maverick party. But what the Maverick Party is, the whole concept is a Western nation, a party that emulates the Quebec nation, which we're sending most of our tax money in transfer payments to Quebec, it's appalling. But I really like the concept of building this nation within the nation to counter Quebec

and to only run candidates in the four Western provinces and the three territories. And I love that concept because we still have a voice as a rural base, here and that's so important for Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan is kind of the last of the good old West here as we see even Alberta getting more urban-based with their commuting and maybe their good highways with all that good oil money. People are doing that. But I guess what is not being talked about is all the things that women deal with every day. I'm a grandmother. I have 10 grandchildren who all live around me. My four adult children, just for statistics, they have moved back to our community because we have created a huge industrial base in Carrott River, which was an

outcome of the enterprise regions here. There are a lot of jobs here. The kids have moved back. We have a brand new $21 million school here, and the population of our town is 1,000. So people say, well, how can you do that? Well, it's economic development. My background is business. Economic development has always been a key interest of mine, and it should come as no surprise that Premier Wall seconded me to help roll out his whole new economic development program,

which he campaigned on it in 2007 as the promise of Saskatchewan. And so that's, I guess, the big. thing is economics here. What are women talking about? We're talking about Sogi in the schools, third-party educators in the schools. This has been top-down through our ministry of education. Totally top-down. There's departments that have written this garbage for 20 years, and now they've slowly worked it in by educating the teachers and educating the university students. this is what you're going to teach. This is the new norm. No, this is not the new norm. This is not what our traditional and our morals and our values are in the Saskatchewan.

Or even science really for that matter. By and large. And we absolutely do not accept this. So I guess what I would say, and John Romick has really, really given us a great platform on the education. We need to throw this garbage out. And we need to get just our basic education. education back. The size of bureaucracy, if we want to get back to the economic piece, it keeps growing. The deficits are growing. This is not acceptable.

SAS party is the party of small business. We all have to manage our businesses economically. We have to meet a budget. We have to pay the bills. And when we can no longer do that, who's going to pay all these taxes for these burgeoning, glutted bureaucracies that keep growing? every year. That's not accountability for the party that's supposed to represent

the business people of this province. The taxes on the fuel. It just goes on and on. The other thing that concerns women and grandmothers and people like me is the crime and the safety. Where are the solutions for that? I'm not hearing that.

That's actually a good point. Is anybody, yeah, and I'm curious, is anybody sitting around this roundtable heard anything about you know, getting, cracking down on crime or anybody talking about that. I mean, Prince Albert's in Saskatchewan

and we're not talking about crime. Well, there were some announcements that were very early on in the campaign or just preceding the campaign from both the SAS party and NDP saying that they were going to hire more officers. And the NDP had said that they wanted to hire more RCMP officers

and just quit this whole Marshalls program. And the SAS party had said they were going to draw on all of them. So there have been more officers that have been promised. And also there was more of a focus on recovery instead of safe supply. That is one pivot that the SaaS party has finally made. And it's been years of pushing on this one by some people. And I think this is another example of where SAS United and the Buffalo Party and others

on the right that have pushed for this have finally prevailed on the government. because when you only had an NDP opposition, and they were the only ones you needed to placate, there was not much reason to go too far to the right on anything. And I think that's one example where things have changed now. And they still do get heavy pushback on this from the NDP, but I think for most people, they think that that is common sense,

that you just don't enable addiction, that you really have to focus on recovery. So do you think that the SASS party has kind of fallen victim to median voter theorem in the last few years then, Lee? I don't know if they're victim to it. Median voter theorem is a political reality in any democracy. And that's... First past opposed. Yeah.

Yeah. And unless you have a really divided opposition and you can own certain issues on the other side that get you enough to get you past that divided opposition, then media border theorem will always be what happens. So, yeah, you know, the, The victories of the right-leaning parties that are outflanking the SaaS Party may not be reflected in getting people to power or getting votes, but they are moving and changing policy without getting power. Just like the Reform Party helped push for balanced budgets when the Kretchen liberals were in power. And that was no small feat.

I mean, that was their first balanced budgets in more than a quarter century. So now on these issues, and even with the more recent things with the bathroom policies and whatnot, that I was going to say that's a very tangible example is that I think that the Sask, the Sask party plank of, you know, having the change room policy that I think I could almost definitively say would not be in their in their platform if it wasn't for the Sask United Party. And it's not that maybe some people in there, I'm not saying it's not a sincere conviction on some people there. But having an opposition on the right gives you political room to do some of these things. I, maybe I'm a cynic, but I don't really see a lot of sincerity from any politicians these days, regardless of the issue. I wanted to go back to, though, you were talking about, you were talking about the teachers. and and you're running for, you're running for school board.

I'm wondering, could you steal man this for me? The whole, from my side, not from anybody else is here, but from my side, the classroom size is irrelevant to student outcome. I mean, Japan is a perfect example of giant classrooms churning out children who are infinitely more smart, more smart and motivated than,

than ours. So given that, it seems to me that the classroom size is sort of an underhanded way of the unions trying to have more people paying more dues and giving them more money and power. What's the flip side of that argument? Well, I think there is a place for smaller class sizes. Not everywhere, though. In Regina, there is large class sizes. I think in Asian schools and even in European schools, there's a better sense of discipline and a demand for achievement than we have here. In some ways, we have very mediocre education. Regina, for example, has had a no-fail policy for elementary school kids for more than 20 years. When I was knocking on doors, I found one retired teacher.

She said, I stopped teaching in 2004, and they were starting to bring that in while I was still there. And she recalled one student who had only been at school 12 days and was or she was ordered to pass that student. She said, I will not put my name on this report card, and she wrote, passed by order of the principal. So, you know, we've had schools that aren't, it's just very mediocre education. And so some of the ideas that have coddled children in the name of self-esteem and whatnot have undermined their ability to achieve. And I think, you know, one of the interesting stories I heard was that there were professors in Saskatchewan in the physics department who had, in Regina, who had found a master's,

test from high school, a 1935 grade 12 departmental exam in algebra. And a couple of them failed the test, these professors. And the two that passed it were from non-North American. They were trained abroad. So our schools have been slowly dumbed down over the years. We don't have a quality education. And I don't even know what tools we even have left to administer discipline in the classroom. We tend to put kids on medications or send them home.

So you act up, you get sent home. Well, sometimes that's right. More of an incentive to act up, right? So I do think in our North American context, there are more learning disabilities. There's more behavior issues. There's kids that really aren't ready for the grade that they're in because they just been passed on. So I do think that the challenge here in North America, it's not just a very, it's a very, a real challenge with the class sizes. And I think that whatever agreement that the province and the

school boards, sorry, the province and the STF come up with with regards to class size and complexity, it would be in the board's interest to honor. Now, that long mouthful, not every area is having those acute problems. And I think outside of the main cities, I think classes are at a very manageable size. And there are certain schools in Regina that they're at a manageable size. But we are getting the bulk of the immigration, the open immigration policies in the cities, and that is causing growing pains for some of the schools and the students. And the international students who are coming, who are just learning English, they do pick it up, I'm told, quite well in being in a school environment. But it does add to another consideration that if a teacher is being

conscientious and trying to be all things to all kids, that it is another stretch. So I think Some of this answer actually comes in having more teaching assistance because we can't control too much the size of the classrooms because we're limited by the physical number of schools that we have. But if the classroom is a large size, if we have teaching assistance, it will probably be a more cost effective way to keep everyone going along at the pace of education as they should. Lee, before we let you out of here, because I'm seeing that was a good answer. Yeah, I see the, we're a little behind on our timeline. We've had things come in and out. Before I get you out of, like not get you out of here, because I'm enjoying this. My question to you is on predictions.

We've been asking every guest who's come on the live stream what they think tonight is going to look like from, you know, a seat count. What is your prediction of tonight's election if you were to put it down on paper? What do you have winning? Who do you have winning? Well, I probably, I have the SaaS party winning. and it's probably going to be, you know, 36 seats or 38 seats. I, you know, the polls have always underestimated the SAS party. And I'm not sure that's intentional.

But the popular support, the popular vote has always been above what the SAS party was getting. All the polls leading into 2020 underestimated SAS party support. So I'm not sure that that's necessarily by design. But when you look at elections 338 or you look at some of these other prognosticators or even some of the political strategists that are not maybe that I've talked to that aren't necessarily directly in these campaigns, but no people who are. There's not a big worry from the SaaS party that they're going to lose this election, despite these other polls.

But they are saying that 2028 will be very interesting. And I think because by then a lot of these challenging parties will be more upstart commodities. Mo may not be, may step down as the Premier. There may be a leadership brace and a new stamp on the SaaS party. So it'll be interesting to see. but that's my initial prediction for tonight. 36. So if I have 38 for, if I was writing this out, 38 for SAS party and 23 for the NDP, are you?

Right. I'm not, I'm not giving any seats to the other parties. Okay, fair enough. Does anybody, anybody in the comments real quick? Anybody want to chime in with an NDP majority prediction? I'd love to see it. But please continue. No, sorry, Lee, I appreciate you hopper.

on tonight and giving us some of your time and your thoughts. If you want to come back on, honestly, if you want to come back on later on, feel free. I can always shoot you a text. But we appreciate you, you hopping on and giving us some of your thoughts tonight. Oh, thanks. It was a great pleasure to be on the show. And I just finished writing about the Nova Scotia election call for Epoch Times. And tonight I have to submit one on the Saskatchewan election.

So we'll see what my time available. When is the Nova Scotia election? It is going to be November the 26th. And the PCs are quite a bit ahead, and the NDP is 23%, and the liberals are 25%, and the PCs that are about 48. So there's a very divided opposition, and they just thought there's no better time. It could be a federal election in the spring. It could overlap a provincial election, which was normally going to be in mid-July, or it could precede it, and then they'll just be voter fatigue for Nova Scotians, so they just thought no better time than now, and they're calling it.

cool all right thanks leave for hopping on thank you and appreciate your time appreciate you all you know um as we we have guests hopping in in the background i'm like did i read somewhere in the comments i know i'm getting i'm going hard left car mc david get hurt tonight somebody's got to just update me for the little uh yeah yeah he's you know shans all over the place i um i blame marty bows who i coached uh you nine ball with this summer okay diehard calgary flames fan to put that in there to mess with my head. So what happened tonight in the game with Columbus is in between the second and third period, he went back to the dressing room to get another tampon and the machine fell on

him. Angela Schmidt, you're back in. I hope you can hear us. Your prediction on tonight's election. I got to get this in. I got to make sure that I don't miss these things. All right. Well, I'd like to predict something a little different than anybody else.

I would like to predict three seats for the new upstart Sask United Party, 20 for the NEP, and 38 for the Sass party. There you go. The math checks out. All right. One of the things we did on the BC that was a lot of fun,

it was we looked at the, because now we're after the 8 o'clock hour, right? So as things go on, I got Brett here. I'm going to do this again, give him away Brett here. There you go. There's a guy in the back

looking at all the, computer screens and everything else, trying to monitor all the good stuff. So if people start to see things come out on other platforms, if they're watching that, I don't know why you are, but you can comment because we'd love to know if we're missing anything. Although, fair enough, shout out to Zach Schmidt. He's been watching this. He's showing up in the comments a little bit. And I've seen a couple people saying they're going to jump over when he starts doing it.

Yeah. I get it. But you should still say here anyway. But we are into the 8 o'clock hour. We got another guest going to hop on with us, so the five. I got to ask Ken and Chris as we go past the goalpost. Are you wanting to stick around for a couple of minutes? Because I can boot people out of this as we go along.

You tell me when it works for you, Sean. I'm available for the night. Okay. Leanne says, Leanne says she wants them to stay. And that's one of the few times I'll agree with Leanne. So one of the things is I'm going to slowly exit people because otherwise we'll have 15 people in here. I don't know how the heck to monitor that folks.

I've been on stage once. Once. I've been on stage once. I believe it was. You've been on stage like 50 times, Sean. Nine people. Will you let me finish a thought? Would you finish your thought?

We're getting it. Yeah, everybody's having a good chuckle. Hey, everybody's having a good chuckle Tuesday. I forgot that the old riders wouldn't let non-vaccinated people in with their, that was something. I didn't remember that. I forgot about that too. You kind of look like an ass tonight.

Now that's what I think. Okay. That makes two of us. As we pass the. 8 o'clock hour. We got a lot going on here. But we're going to try and pay attention to the results coming in. I want to make sure that we give shoutouts to the AMC group. That's Drew McKay, originally from Corning, Saskatchewan.

That's EMC Electrical.com.com. I want to give a shout out to T-Barr-1 Transport here in Lloyd Minster for being major sponsors of this. Thank you to both of them. Roots to Hillman, Saskatchewan. So the hamlets of Saskatchewan getting it done tonight for the mashup, live election coverage. Okay.

Okay, real quick, uh, somebody said in the comments that McDavid suffered a lower body injury in the first period. So that was, that was the tampon that we were talking about. Fair enough. Fair enough.

Okay. Well, we'll wait and see. Okay. We'll wait and see. Yes. All right. Um, okay.

Jim Sinclair is sitting in the background. We might as well add him in, um, as instead of just making them sit out there. He's, he dedicated 33 years to serving in the Canadian military, including roles with the Princess Patricia's Canadian in light infantry and two commando, part of the airborne regiment.

He participated in four tours overseas and retired with the Royal Regina Rifles. Jim, James, Jamie. How's it go tonight, sir? Good, good. How are you guys? Yeah, I got no complaints on this side. We've had our ups and downs with a couple technical issues. If you're still watching on twos as X, wondering what the heck happened to Sean's.

Up the Johns. Yeah, up the Johns. There you go. for whatever reason we've had a couple technical issues jim but uh jammy tell tell us your thoughts uh from where you sit on this current election today well uh i've been a proud uh sass party uh supporter for many years uh in the spring time i was invited to uh go to the go to watch proceedings at the at the ledge and at that time i i became very upset with uh how our politics is gone and how it is.

The respect that the SAS party was giving to the NDP, which the NDP were voted in by Saskatchewan people, their voice wasn't being heard. In fact, you know, the SAS party would actually turn their chairs and have their back to them while they were trying to talk in the ledge. Very upsetting to me. I wouldn't take, I wouldn't expect that from my children at the table. And this is how things are being dealt with by our leadership.

I sat across the table from Brad Wall. I have a ton of respect for him. I got to sit at the first Saskatchewan cabinet table, which held like I think five or seven people. We went from 1999, we went from $6 billion to run this province to now where it's $26 billion. dollars I have no idea where all that money's going we've only gone by 200,000 people somebody is talking about the class sizes class sizes are yeah they can be dealt with if the culture

is the same culture and everybody speaks the same language our schools in the big centers are are full with kids they don't even speak English our teachers aren't being given the abilities to deal with with the complex issues in the classrooms our health are helping care, the nurses wanted to have a meeting with the health department, the SAS Health Department. He didn't show up. Like just the disrespect that is being shown by this government, it's troubling. I do believe that they'll win this election. And the problem of that is because people, you know, at the end of the day, they're being browbeaten in the vote for the SAS party because they don't want to split the vote.

that's not that's you might as well be a communist like when when you get browbeat into where you're going to put your vote that's how communist dictatorships work and i'm not saying mo's a dictator's a dictator but that's that's that's what they're peddling uh the fear mongering to to to the people of Saskatchew if you don't vote for us you you're uh you you know you're losing your vote and i i just have a hard time thinking that way I've served this country. Many people spilled their blood for our ability to vote. And I hope people go out there and they vote for who they believe in. And if that's the SAS party of the NDP, that's your choice.

And that's what we fight for. So, yeah, to say the least, I'm a little upset with the SAS party. I've decided to vote for the SAS United. I believe in their platform, I believe in their leadership behind John Romick. And, you know, if they get one or two seats or whatever it is, at least before they were even in, like had any seats, they were able to make the SAS government pivot and change things. They changed the bill of parents' rights last year. They failed to put any teeth in it so that we could actually enforce that in the school systems,

which it's not. It was just, hey, look what we're doing over here, but they, they didn't, they didn't really follow through with it all. So,

you know, and, and, um, the COVID issue that we weren't going to have to have mandates or passports and, you know, just,

we could have been the, we could have been the, come in here, we could have been the, is that Henry? Yeah, it's Henry silence. Nice.

You ended up on here anyway, Henry? You couldn't get away from us. Man, that guy's Jack, hey? We could have been to South Dakota of Canada, right? But we could have brought in so much good business and bigger business and companies into our province. And, you know, we just shit the bed. And it's disheartening.

But I'm always half-glass full. I feel things are going to get better. It's got you. We're starting to, like, hit bang on to or push head on it to this. I had a conversation with Andrew Shearer on the weekend and, you know, he was listening and he feels the pain of the West. He's a Westerner. And hopefully, you know, our change that we can do in Saskatchewan can influence what's

going on in the East as well with our current government. But you can only hope, like, unfortunately I've been told I had to take out an enemy machine gun nests and have gas then and I didn't sit there and ponder and, and, you know, wish that that wasn't me. That was the position I was in and we did it and we did it as a team and sometimes he has got to go hard into things like that

and that's what I feel the Sask United is doing. They've been forced to become a party and push forward because people need a different choice and they need some some real leadership at the front. Why is it any sense?

Why the hell isn't he in the studio with us tonight? I don't know, you know, because he's probably enjoying a party or two, a festive occasion where he's at. That's probably why. I tell you the truth, you know what I was doing before I got here? I was coaching 16 kids in Bethune. And, you know, I love coaching. I love being around the hockey rink and such.

But I'm glad to be here around all these people that are trying to make a change for our province and for our kids. And just to finish on this, I've had conversations with several people that are my age or older. And the comments that they told me were very disturbing. They said, you know what, this is going to be a problem for the next generation. And I said, that's fucking bullshit. Like, we created this problem. We had our heads in the sand and the whole world's falling apart. It's up to us to fight very hard and educate ourselves and come up.

with a plan forward so our kids can have a country or a way of life in the future. So anybody that thinks that they're too old to make a change or they're too old to lead us by starting in your own backyard, your own community, your own province, your own country, if you think you can't do that, then you really don't care about in our country to begin with. But in your soul, I believe there's lots of Canadians out there that double dig deep and push forward and get their head out of the sand and do what's right for our nation and for our future. Well, what do you think about the, well, I don't know. Actually, before Tim says anything, I go, what does Ken Angel and Chris think of that?

I'm like, I don't think. I'm like, all right. Well, I mean, you got. Sure. That's what you're here for. So inspiring. What a fantastic message you have. And I'm 64 years old.

And I was planning on being somewhere south with dipping my toes in a pool by the time I got to be this age. I married a farmer. So I was looking forward to the days in Arizona by the time I, you know, hit when the kids left home or whenever that, that was 10 years ago. But, you know, to your point, I am now doing more volunteer work than I have ever had. and in an arena that I never, ever wanted to be in and felt that I had something to say, and that is in the political arena. I enjoyed my time volunteering for the SAS Party because I did totally believe in the economic development side of things, as I stated earlier.

But now I look at things totally differently. My kids, our four adult children and their spouses, we have 10 grandchildren, they don't want, they don't want to hear about the political situation of the day they'll listen to whatever i tell them they do not have a spare minute between coaching hockey at 6 a.m like sean does and they're raising their children they're they're holding down jobs they're trying to get their kids uh well educated they're fighting their own little battles trying to find child care trying to find a doctor to take their kid to when they're sick and you know so jim i've done a real complete um self-analysis since 2020 and i'm I said to myself, well, I can add value because I have a little bit of knowledge in this arena.

I have tons of business knowledge. I've been in business for many years. I sat on the step board of directors. So I have the international experience from serving there. And I need to add value. And so do people in our age group. You guys need to start serving your community again. You need to start devoting a little bit of time at the local.

level. I'm strong believer in the decentralization and getting our voice back. So I guess that's a little bit long-winded, but I really applaud what you just said and would encourage the grandparents who have been spending a lot of time vacationing. You know, you're going to come back home one summer to the farm and you're not going to recognize the place. Yep, you're right. Thank you for your service. Anything left. There's been a lot of comments, Jim, coming up. Thank you for your service. There was a lot of Yeah, thank you. And the second you came on, there was like a half dozen comments talking about how happy everybody is with all the guests that we've got on this thing. So.

Well, and our hats off. Once again, that's the hats off to all of you answering the call. Angela, I had to not twist your arm too hard because you were excited to do it. But I'm sure you had like 15 other things that you had to have been doing. Like, oh, you should be on this. You should be on this. You just be on this. And that, you know, and, you know, we're in.

to hour three as we go along here. We got our next guest sitting in the background. And, you know, it's a real testament to the people that are coming on here and then tuning in. We keep trying to, I don't know, create something that doesn't suck, you know? You know, at times we're talking about things. I'm like, man, the Euler game is on, even though they're losing. You know, it's like, should we all just be watching that?

Are we going to sit here and listen to us? Yahoo's go. And then, you know, you get to parts like this. Man, this is something. You know, this is an experience. We appreciate everybody tuning in. You make sure you share it on X or wherever you're watching. Not on Sean's because he can't figure that out.

But if you're watching it on mine, for example, but yeah, all the comments that are coming in, like from Elishan, for example, I love your whole family. And then just lots of people, you know, salute to Jim Sinclair. Love you, Jamie. Yeah, there's Garden Girl.

Shut up to Garden Girl. Yeah. Fantastic. Oh, I didn't even notice that right away. Yeah. Fantastic. people. We got fantastic people all over the place. Half of them are sitting here watching us and tuning into this. You know, when you get down the, the black pilled rabbit hole of like,

maybe there's just, you know, I'm actually the laughing gas. I'm not red pill, blue pill, white pill, black pill. I'm laughing gas. Okay, okay. You know, you hear Jamie talk. It starts in your backyard, people loving on that. And you kind of go, man, maybe there's a little, little fight left to this yet. I don't know, Kenny, you're sitting there. What are you, what comes to mind for you? You know what? Listen to Jamie. I love listening to Jamie. Your military podcast, Sean. I start them from beginning to end Jamie. Love listening to you and Chuck and all the rest. But, you know, Jamie, I actually took my family down to the ledge. You know, I thought, what a time for our family to have gone through what we went through and to go watch the legislators in process in Regina. And like all of us, I think most of us, you know, I've always voted Sask Party. I was thankful for the Sass Party. You know, I was. what they did for the, or what I thought they did for the province. And I was so dismayed by the way that the SaaS Party MLAs behaved in that legislative.

Jamie, I wasn't there the day you were there, but they were openly talking and on their cell phones and turned their backs on it. I'm like, if I could only choose who I vote by what I see today, I'd leave voting for the NDP. Like, it was disgraceful. It wasn't it?

I couldn't believe it. And I'm like, I was growing up taught that, you know, you respect people when they're speaking and you and you listen to. I know they'll be arguing back and forth, but it was, it was, it was, I've never, I never would have guessed I would see that in all my, and these were like, not elderly, but like, you know, a lot of the MLAs are probably north of 55, you know, these aren't 20 year olds, right?

And the way that they, I was just shocked by it. So, Jamie, I saw the exact same thing and it was very, very disgusted by it. So is it just straight disrespect or is there a sense of entitlement to go with it or what, what was the general. vibe that was coming out from these actions. We own this place. We own this place. This is our place. Totally disrespect for

they think they own it, but when they turn their back to the NDP, which was voted by Saskatchewan people, that's like turning your back to that group of Saskatchewan citizens. So to me, that's disrespectful.

I, it was, it turned me right off and, and, Yeah, I'm with you. I'm glad you brought that up. And yeah, that's my thoughts as well. It just comes down to though the being a politician is a thankless job, right? And not enough young people are getting involved in anymore.

My 21-year-old son had absolutely no clue what it takes to vote today. And I've been trying really hard to try and get him educated on it so he could, he could have a voice and pick that proper candidate. it, but the fact is a Canadian, well, anybody right now is we're so busy working, we're so busy trying to make a living, the days of having a stay-at-home mother are basically gone. Like when I was raised, I was able, I was fortunate enough to have that. And now that's something in the past because of the debt range and just how much it costs to live nowadays.

So we're losing their values. My hope on that, Chris, is, you know, one of the things I think about with politics and how you get involved, right? There's a lot of things that happen. But one of the things is, you know, once you start paying taxes, probably get married, have kids, some real things just start to hit you. You're like, the heck is going on. A lot of people turn into politics, right? But like, here in Canada, one of the things we're trying to do here, I think, too, is create something that people tune into and go, oh, well, this is something. You know, we're hearing it. And you think, like, you tune into the BC election coverage. What was this? We had more people watching us than

cTV. I'm like, what did he gives us? You watch it for this. But you watch it for like 10 minutes. You're like, man, alive. I just, just get me to what the result is. I don't want to hear these people. They're telling me all my thoughts are wrong and on and on it goes. Like I'm some, you know, what did I get called on X today? I'm like a misogynist, a bigot, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, well, I don't know. I mean, you do what you want to do. But I want to, I want to see something that actually shows some diverse opinions. from a different lens than we're all bigots. And if you don't vote for this, that's what's happening. And you're like, okay, so one of the things that we've, you know,

I hope we're doing on this set is we're creating something trying to and learning our lessons as we go that people want to tune into. And then on top of that, by tuning into it, they hopefully get informed on some things. And then on top of that, maybe they'll start to be involved. Because if I watch Alberta, if Alberta's taught me anything, they got 6,000 people showing up, or roughly, to their UCP AGM this coming weekend,

which we're going to be attending to for the first time ever, because I normally would be like, show up and enjoy it. Like I'm going to Red Deer to do what? I've got to go to Red Deer and I've got to hang out with a bunch of suits. So I'm hoping for your son, Chris, and any other younger generation, we're creating something where there's enough personalities coming on.

You can be like, huh, I didn't agree with everything that, you know, and yeah, that guy's a moron, or maybe whatever, whatever you stand on this. As me and twos always point out, you want to get in the chat and cause idiots, we'll probably read it off. Yeah. So for example, the tweet he was talking about when he put the line up for tonight. Oh, yeah, there it is. Some random person said, quite the who's who of right-wing conspiracy theorists, bigots, and seditionists.

There you are. Yeah, well, I mean, I'll go out on a limb and say that I'm a bit of a seditionist when it comes to what's going on in Canada right now. But it's too bad he didn't actually lay out exactly where we're bigots or whatever. But, yeah. Fair enough. The Prime Minister told them to think that way. It's true. Yep. Okay, we're going to add in. I just jump in quickly with one quick comment.

The discussion about politics is in the home. I had a big debate with one of my friends years ago and I was adamant that political landscape should be taught in the school And she emphatically debated with me. She said, no, you need to be discussing this. In your home, that is a parental and a family responsibility to be talking about what matters. Because as you said, Sean, once you have your family and start paying taxes and start figuring all this stuff out, it is the most important topic you should be talking about at the supper table if anyone sits down. Now, I want to just circle back to a comment I made very quickly earlier, and that's about our morals and values and our traditional family in Saskatchewan.

There is still a large, a very moral traditional family here in the province, I would argue, whether we don't eat supper together every night, we have tons of opportunity in all of our sports times and in our vehicles together, taking the kids to hockey practice to talk about the things that matter. My second comment that I want to make is that in the legislature, I've attended as well numerous times in the last two years. And ditto to both what Ken and Jim have said. The debate was obnoxious, appalling, and non-existent. I went to the level of discussion was kindergarten. I couldn't believe it. who would want to be involved in that type of exercise. So we need to bring some maturity and some debate,

proper debate back into the legislature. I'm mostly with you. I would argue that immaturity could have a really good place if it's executed well. Oh, like for example, if you've got somebody from the NDP talking about affordable housing and you just reach underneath your desk and you pull up basic economics and you be like, here we go,

you know, lick your thumb, flip through. Oh, chapter 14, why affordable housing is not affordable and why this whole thing stinks, right? You could be immature about it as long as you're effective. But maybe that's just me and that's probably why I'm never going to sit in one of those seats. Okay. Before we carry on here, I'm going to invite in mother of four, former police officer, founder and president of Unified Grassroots, a conservative nonprofit here in Saskatchez, Madine Ness is now in the conversation. Nadine, thanks for hopping on tonight. Thanks for having me.

Is my sound okay or is it a little rough? It's really good, actually. It's maybe a tiny bit loud. Maybe it's tiny bit loud. We can hear you. Is this better if I move it? Perfect. Perfect.

Yes. Okay. Now, D'I mean, the question I've been asking everybody as they walk in is you stare at this election and I go. what sticks out to you? So Nadine, what is sticking out to you with the current SASC election here going on tonight? Yeah, I'm just going to turn off. Give me a second. I'm hearing an echo, but that's on my end. So I just turned it off. We're good. I'm going to give my points. And not, not many people have given their points or even talk good about the NDP. And this is a really hard thing for me. So I'm going to give you my kind of opinion on all parties. in this province where some have done good and some have done bad. And I'll start first with the vote splitting.

And I know this is a topic that keeps coming up, but I think it's important people know the actual facts. In 31 writing, you could have a 50-50% vote split of the conservatives and it still would not go NDP. In 31 writing, if you go based on stats, so they would still empower. Now, is there a concern that NDP gets seats? Yeah, if you start seeing the NDP rise up in popularity, which unfortunately we've seen

in the last year. And I don't think because the NDP has gotten better or has been a better government, they've just been way better at communication and hiding how insane they are. And they have the media that works for them. They have the unions. I've never seen the coordination like this before, like Saskatchewan. I don't know if you guys have seen, but the vote for education signs, lawn signs that are being pushed by the STF. It's a push for NDP.

And that's like brilliant because it's not even the NDP doing the work. It's the STF. And people are more likely to put signs on their lawn if it's vote for education, right? And that's something that very technically sidesteps. uh, political, um, campaign limits for,

for third party. Because we're not actually technically saying vote for NDP. We're just saying vote for education. And so you can't get mad at us for spending a whole bunch of money on these signs. Real quick, though, I just want to say, um, in the comments,

a guy named Pets says, um, well, he was talking about, uh, I clicked on the wrong one because the comments are flying in so fast. But he said, uh,

bring back the whiskey room. And we'll have better debates. What is the whiskey room? I just keep going with that in the comments. But please, Nadine, continue. Yeah. And then if you look at their communication game plan, the NDP out far was superior than all other parties.

And I'm not saying that as in the other parties don't have better ideas or better plans. They do. They just didn't get it out there to the public. We don't have the media on our side. And the NDP did. And they made it seem like they were the ones who were going to get us out of this economic gong show that we have or the economic disaster that we have. Unfortunately, we know that's not going to happen because we get to see the other side, whether you're on Twitter or listening to conservative voices.

We hear both sides. The mainstream media says the left talking point. We hear the right. We're like, okay, it doesn't make sense. but the general public is not on Twitter for the majority of it. They're not listening to you, Sean, which I think they should because I think it should be mandatory to get both sides. But because of that, you're seeing the NDP rise in some levels where we're all thinking,

how is this even possible? They are insane. If you go look, like they're actually swearing in tweets. They're saying the F words in tweet. Elected officials like- I do that lots. Well, you're not an elected official. But yeah, and they've been able to hide the crazy for some reason somehow.

Well, here's an interesting question. And maybe I'll just open this up to anybody who wants to chime in. But, you know, if assuming that they buy into the vote splitting thing and presumably the more popular you could get the right-wing upstart parties, the more votes would be taken away from the, from the establishment right wing parties. Why aren't the mainstream media embracing the upstart conservative parties as,

as a way to try and, because I mean, I think it's fairly established at this point that they sit pretty far on the left. And why aren't, why aren't they doing more to help out, say, Task United?

They're not attacking Sask United like they are the SaaS party. And Sask United is more right-leaning. than SAS party. Like if we're going to be fair and why not, why not give them more of a platform, I guess is what I'm asking. Actually,

I think they've given them a lot more of a platform than let's say Buffalo Party. If you actually compare and contrast, they have. When Saskia United started, that's all they were talking about. Now, look, I'm just being completely fair here

with what I see. Some of you know, Sask United, I help them start. I helped them get signatures because I, like you guys, was really disenfranchised with the SAS party. They were very, what's the right term? They weren't listening to the people.

They didn't feel that they needed to. I even heard the terms being used by some elected officials, who are you going to vote for, the NDP? We all know they said these things. They behave that way. I'm very in support of an entity being created. And SAS United has won just for the simple fact that our province is more conservative today than it would have been had they not been created.

And just to jump in real quick, the first roughly thousand votes are in, the SaaS party's leading in seven and the NDP are leading in one. Oh, that's great. Yeah, there you go. There's the map. Are here, wait a second. We do have the map. Wait a second.

We managed to white had it. I want it. I want to forgive me, folks. Forgive me here. I'm going to pull it up. There we go. There we go. Give him a wave.

Just a second, Jim. That kid right there is a genius. He hacked. He hacked the $12,000. Don't say that. You're incriminating us. You're incriminating us. Anyways, regardless, Jim, fire away.

If you got a hop boat, we need a prediction from you, Jim, before we let you leave. Sass Party is going to win. Saskianian is going to have two seats, hopefully four. And, yeah, that's. That's my prediction. Out of the 59 remaining, if SaaS party gets two, which way are you going? Are you going 40 plus for the SaaS party or less? I would think the NDP might take away some of those seats, unfortunately.

Well, I mean, they only had 13 in the last election, so they're shaping up to already take away quite a few of them. Yeah. Well, that's their own fault. But, hey, listen, I want to meet all you guys. in Calgary. I thank you very much for letting me be on here with such a great group of people. And looking forward to actually shaking your hands and tipping a glass back with you this, this,

this, this, May and, uh, Calgary. Oh, well, what's going on in May?

Well, you guys are having a party in Calgary, apparently. Tell us, tell us more about what's happening in May. I tell you what, I tell you what, we could show the video,

and maybe that's what we should do, but Jim, uh, we appreciate, you hopping on with us tonight and giving some time. As everybody keeps commenting every time you talk, you know, thank you for your service.

But thank you for being open and talking about things, right? Because it's one of the perspectives that I really enjoy having on the, whether it's the podcast or on this coverage, is the military perspective is a really interesting one. And in our country, in general, it doesn't get a whole lot of time.

And so, you know, appreciate you hopping on and, and talking a little bit of... Before you let me go, I'll say this. So the reason why soldiers, men and women, serve our country, it's not for Ottawa. It's not for the Canadian flag.

It's for the citizens of this country. The mom, the school bus driver, the guy driving the Zamboni, the people cashing your, or going to the grocery store, you know, taking your money when you're buying food. you know, the teachers at the school, like you people right now, like that's what makes a country, that's what makes a community, and that's why people fight for our way of life. If we lose all of that and there's no community, nobody's going to fight for our way of life. So thank you for doing what you're doing, Sean and twos,

and, well, obviously, Chris Barber and everything you've done for our country with going down to Ottawa, putting everything on the line. Like you have no idea how much we respect that and what you've done for us. So I appreciate your job. And I love you guys. Thanks, Jim.

Thanks, Jim. Can I jump in? One of the proudest moments of my life, I think, was standing in Ottawa and standing there with the veterans. I think that was one of the most impactful things about Convoy was the amount of veterans that came out in support and, And, you know, in the end of it all, a lot of those veterans were beaten on our nation's capital at the war monument.

We're the last down took place by law enforcement. And that has been one of the biggest things, I think, for me in the last couple years, is seeing the amount of support out there from our veteran community. So I've got to known quite a few veterans across the country and active service members. And that is honestly, I have a hard time. And when somebody says, you know, appreciate what we did there when we stood with so many veterans. that I considered that have done way more, you know, for our, for our freedom. You know, the event, Chris, that Jamie was talking about, I'll show the one minute video that way people can see what the heck he's talking about.

You were rolling through Lloyd when it happened. And it was just by happy chats. You rolled out in big red. Did you say by happen chance? I don't know. Yeah, sure. Anyways, uh, leave me alone. Okay, leave me alone.

I mean, it's our, we're almost on hour three going into four on this sucker. But the thing that Chris would have missed was Chuck Prodnick getting a standing O on stage, who's another military vet, but he got teary-eyed talking about the Freedom Convoy, and it was a big giant shoutout, right? Military men giving a giant shout-out to the everyday citizen that went across this country to stand up for not only their rights, but everybody else's rights. And so it's a very, I don't know, like you sit and listen to Jim or Chuck for that matter because they come on so much,

but there's a whole list of these characters. And you go like, holy man, like they're doing something very few in Canada do. And they, in return, talk all about the freedom convoy. And we got to witness that in Lloyd Minster in April.

And what Jim is talking about is Calgary and May. So I think it's a really interesting, um, relationship, I guess between the freedom convoy and the military. Yeah. Absolutely. Now before we get,

uh, now before we get to our, I want to take that off for a second. I want to bring, okay, we've got a minute video, so it's going to, it's going to blur us all out. And then we'll bring in our next guest because I can see her sitting there. And I'm sure she's going to be a little spitfire when we get her on here. But here, this is what. Sean has to go pee is basically what's going to happen.

Here's a minute video. Oh, buddy, what Jim's talk about. So that, folks, is, was the SMP presents Cornerstone Forum, which happened in Lloyd this April. And what Jamie was alluding to is the Cornerstone Forum is returning in Calgary, May 10th. 2025 and it's going to see some similar characters on there and some different ones coming. And so tickets are now, here's my shameless plug on my own show, whatever, is you can, yeah, I know. By all means.

It's like, uh, but, who's going to stop you? I know. Early bird tickets are on sale. That's in Calgary, May 10th. And you're going to see different guys from the Canadian military across a whole spectrum of people. And that was the first one. They got great reviews.

It was a lot of fun. It was. It was. It was. It's a really good video you have there. it doesn't have me on it nearly often enough. But aside from that, I can't believe they let that squeak through, to be honest, you know?

Just by channel. Two other guests, could anybody hear that video? I couldn't hear it, Sean, when you're playing. You might want to play it again at the end of your, your spiel here. Oh, man. I didn't hear others. Could you hear it? I could only hear the music, not any voices.

People on. You have the volume turned all the way down when you go into brand? Oh, no. No. Yeah. Yep. There you go. Well, we'll play it again.

again, hey. Okay, we'll play it again later. Yeah. You know, we've got, we've got an election to cover. Okay, so, so come to the Cornerstone Forum in Calgary in May and we will have better AV than that video had. We promise. All right. They're saying they could hear it. Okay. Get out of here. Okay. We're going to bring in her next. Okay. We're going to keep it rolling here. Live election coverage. We got the map rolling. What does it show here? Is it still, we still have the same thing. It's saying the Saskia, uh, part. at 7 NDP at 1. Nothing's been updated since. We'll keep everybody up. All right. Let's bring your... But we have the map. We have the map. And we did not pay $12,091 for it.

So the consortium... Consortium? Consortium. I sound like Sean here. The consortium. Get it out there, big fella. All right. Angela Schmidt had given us a hard time because of all the male testosterone on this stream. And now we've had a string of women and we're going to bring another one. And Mother of Six, Copywriter, former guest host of John.

Gormley Show and is running for the position of Regina Public School trustee. I'm talking about Lee's Merrill. So, Lee's, come on in. How are you doing? Hello, darling, people. And hello from Regina, Saskatchewan, the woke epicenter of this old crazy shit show. Oh, Chris Barber, Canadian hero. Great to see you on here.

I've wanted to meet you for a good long time. Next time I'm in Swift, I'm going to look you up. Indeed, Ness. Good to see you, friends. And Rutherford. You look awesome. And Sean Newman. Thank you.

I got, the hair has evolved out of the COVID, claraul black, dark, off-ness and coming back to my regular blonde. So yeah, feeling, feeling a little bit,

feeling a little bit more bubbly. I love her. I told you she was going to be a little spicy coming on, didn't I? Well, I spent 10 years on the radio with John Gourley, so I was trained and I was trained by the best. Why did you,

you've got hair like that and you spent 10 years on radio? On a face for radio. That's what they said. So we're just going to go with that. We're just going to go with that. Yeah, but it was a great time.

I mean, I loved every minute of it. Got to meet every mover and shaker in Western Canada. And now here we are on the Sean Newman podcast. It's great to be here. Now, Lees, I've been asking every,

yes, we just added in Angela Schmidt back again. Okay. Oh, you know, Ariel, even better. Oh,

this is just the best. Can we keep this thing? on the rails here. This is on the rail. Who tries to pull us off the rails all the time? I am keeping us on the rails. You've got the comments blowing up with love for this lady. She should be allowed to hear it. Okay.

We're here to talk about the election. Yes, we are. Okay, please. I want to know, you know, we're slowly having results come in, but I've been asking everybody who steps on to this platform when it comes to this election and you talk about being at the woke epicenter of Saskatchew, which is Regina.

What sticks out to you about this election. Well, just how insane it is that we have the polls with the NDP and the Sask party neck and neck. Like, I think the SASS party missed a real opportunity to reconnect with their conservative base and they took a hell of a lot longer than I'm comfortable with to do it. I've been saying for the better part of two years, the SACP party is in a real identity crisis. And the SaskanDP has really pulled off a political piracy, I would say, in stealing goods. FAST party policies and sort of rebranding them as their own. So it's just insane. I think two things that contribute to this is we have a whole generation of young voters, say 18 to 24, but don't remember

what it's like, how terrible it was to live under a Saskatchewan NDP government. It was really a dark time in Saskatchewan. You know, we watched eight out of ten of all of our graduating classes, pick up the next day after graduation and move to Alberta. And another thing that really sort of harmed us going into this election. I'm just going to give my guy a shout out. But John Gormley stopped broadcasting this year. And we no longer have a conservative voice telling us four hours a day every day how awful it is to have an NDP government. So I think that we're seeing the blowback of that. And if the NDP get in, I think that we can all blame John Gormley. That's good. I like it. And I want to build on it very slightly and also say that

those eight to ten people who moved away, a lot of them didn't come back. back to not vote NDP. No, that's that's 100% true. And we're, you know, we all remember, we're all old enough to remember how disastrous the 2015 NDP government in Alberta was and how you are still trying to recover from that disastrous, disastrous move. And we're just praying that that doesn't happen in Saskatchewan. The Saskatchewan United Party is, I think, the one to watch tonight because they have

the opportunity to, oh, look at that map. That's a nice little map. Yeah, there you go. We got the map. SASS party up to 12 NDP sitting at one. Yeah. So those are ones where they're leading in, but nothing's been officially done yet.

There's only a couple thousand votes that have been counted so far. Saskatchewan doesn't have the fancy dominion machines that BC has. Thank God. Thank God we didn't do that. And we still don't know the election results of BC, do we? Well, no, they're still bringing in duffel bags full of votes until it goes the right way. the right vote for the NDP but it happened

John Rucked that though for just over a year being able to pull that party to where it is right now that's amazing Oh it's absolutely It's absolutely wonderful I met him probably about a year ago

And it was oh yeah I got this this conservative party That's gonna take over BC And this is gonna be the next premier And I was just kind of You know polite not like condescending But you know in the back of my head I was thinking like yeah

I've heard the heard the sell on on upstart parties yeah i hope you do well but you know not really thinking he's going to do too much with it and then boom he came within a hair's breadth and a couple duffel bags of winning yeah i mean watch him in the next four years that's all i'm going to say they're going to build on this and they're going to attack everything the nDP does and make no mistake a bc is just going to turn into a bigger burning hell hole than it already is um how you can take the most beautiful place in the world and turn it into a hell hell is beyond me. But look at the BC NDP doing just that.

Look, I don't get when people talk about how beautiful BC is. You can't see anything. There's all these stupid mountains blocking your view. You sound like my mom, too. My mom used to say it. I feel so claustrophobic in the mountains. She's getting my way. I can't see the sky.

To get in the way of the sky. It's a waste of perfectly good farmland. You can't farm rocks. Can't drive a combine up a mountain. Yeah. Okay. I want to give Angela one final crack here before we let her out for the evening. We've got more people coming in and I'm looking at this folks.

I'm going, oh, my goodness, how am I going to keep massaging this little machine we got going? Angela. Well, you are a massaging. Oh, my goodness. Give me a break here. Angela, before we let you out of this, is there any final thoughts you have? on, it's early, it's early, I want to say that. It is sitting at 12 for the Sask, one for the NDP.

Any final thoughts here for the voters in Saskatchewan or maybe just the general public as a whole? Yes, I will give a final thought, other than the women have finally come to an equalized status on this podcast. So now you've got to kick one of us off. Correct. Final thoughts are. You are correct, ma'am. You know what? There's too much women in here and I need them out of here.

I mean, it's great because we only have to pay you 80% of what we're paying Ken and Chris. I think what we need to watch for is this 80% of women voices that are sitting there quietly watching. And I've always been a person who. The prairie mentality, we're always, and the Canadian mentality, we're always challenged with being so quiet and nice. But I think that you better look out because I know a lot of women in this province who are fed up. They're paying attention and they want to go out and make a difference. And they're going to find their spot in whichever party is going to take some action. Those are my final for us.

I love that for us. And I think we're going to do it. So go, Grammar, go, get out there. Your voice still count. Bye, everybody. Emma and Mama bears. Yes. Angela, thanks for hopping on.

Thank you. Interesting thing, Estevan, Big Muddy. Thanks for pointing this out in the chat. But the NDP are currently in fourth behind the United, the Buffalo and Saskatchewan party. And the PC conservatives are currently leading in one riding. Well, and now the map showing 20 to the SaaS party, two to the NDP. So there you go. That's where we sit.

Nadine, you haven't given me your predictions. And before we get any further, I need to get Nadine and Lee's on the map here. Because otherwise, they're going to be able to say, oh, yeah, it's, you know. So Nadine, you're on that. What is your prediction for the tonight's election? Okay. So my prediction will be 37 seats. So I have two scenarios.

I'm going to go with the one that I want. I'm going to go with the one that I want. Okay. But then, okay, so I think Sass party will get 37 seats. I think Sask United will get one. And I think it'll be Nadine Wilson. She's like already in power there. She's the most likely one to win.

And I think it'll disrupt a little bit the Sass party some more. So I'm hoping she will keep her seat. And I really like Nadine Wilson, not just because she's an 18. But, and I think NDP will get 23 seat. All right. Now, the one that I don't want. Yeah. And the one that I may not want, this is my wishful thinking.

So if not the SAS United seat would go to SAS party. So 3823. Okay. And Lee's, I need your prediction before we get too far into this. Okay. Okay. I'm going to say, I'm going to say 30 at Sask Party, 28 NDP, and three for the Sask United Party. Holy mo. Well, listen, it's coming from the woke epicenter of vagina that I'm seeing this, right?

And so I'm seeing these orange, God awful vomitous orange signs every time I look. It's the international color for danger. Like a florenge vest. Exactly that, a florenge event. So I'm going to say that they're going to come in really, really close to Sass Party. But the one that we have to watch for is Sask United Party, because this is really, this is really an election that conservatives get to hold the feet of the fire of Scott Mota the fire for for these last several years. And there's a number of things that the Sass Party could have done to rectify that situation that didn't. and I believe that they've been getting some bad advice

and the people that have been providing that bad advice should probably not stay employed by the SAS party. In any case, I think we're going to see a new leader. Yeah, well, I mean, how bad do you have to screw things up that you're within a hair's breadth of losing to a bunch of socialists? No, really, harping cat ladies. That is, I mean, that is the option here. And they are just the most awful people, those NDP,

that band of harpies over there at the NDP. Never mind Jared Clark with his Balgony change room scandal business, which it looks like they walked right through without paying any price for that. Why wasn't the SAC party on that story? Why weren't they talking about that? Because they don't want to lose the urban votes. You wouldn't have lost me.

They would have gained me twice. They're not going to vote for them twice. They're not going to win the urban votes. They're not going to win the urban votes anyway. And this is one of the thing that just frustrates me with conservative parties or so-called conservative parties basically across the West is they keep trying to cater to people who will never vote for them. That's right.

That's right. Instead of shoring up support where it rightfully is in the beginning and that's with the conservative. But I don't know. The thing that I've been hearing a lot of in these last several months is the SAC party has been a liberal party in disguise, neocons for this entire time. And now just everybody is sort of figuring that out. And I wish they would have, I wish they would have self-corrected before this moment.

But if this is what it's going to take for them to learn a lesson, well, and so be it. I don't know of a political party that learns lessons any other way to be completely honest other than the hard way. Well, I mean, it's their main priority, right? When it comes to politicians, thing one is get elected. Thing two is stay elected. And thing three is garner as much power as you can. Yeah. Right.

And so as soon as you start taking one of those away, that's when they start listening. and not before that. Look what's happening federally with the liberals. All of a sudden they're concerned about what we want. It's so weird that. Okay, well, as we're going along here, because I'm not going to let him get, you know, get too far into it.

We got another guest sitting in the background. He's a Canadian farmer comedian and YouTube known for his humorous content related to farming, rural life and Canadian politics. His YouTube channel has amassed over $130,000. Like, I mean, can you just let me get it? Like Lee, can we talk real quick about how great that comment was, though? Any South Park fans out there?

All right, please continue, Sean. Nadine and Nadine, Lise is fan-girling here. We've got over 17 million views, and he's also known for a small town comedy tour. I'm talking about Quick Dick McDeck. Q, come on in. What up, folks? Good to see you, buddy. What's everybody doing?

Well, I don't know. We're rolling along, I think. Tews has been drinking just about. vote everything. I don't know how he has a peed yet, quick. I mean, he's drank like four Red Bulls. I don't want to break the beer. I'm like, what is going? Where is he putting? Folks, I've sit right here. I'm like, have you

checked him for a catheter? I have not. It's the way of the road, folks. It's the way of the road. Yeah, I've been trying to follow along. I was just busy trucking here this afternoon, but yeah, it's a good. Oh, hey, Blue Ball. Lots of good conversation. Yeah, Blue Ball's talked away for the night there now. We're going to go at five

tomorrow morning again. Well, quick, we've been asking everybody as they slide in, you know, when it comes to this election, what have you been paying attention to, I should say, and what's been sticking out to you about, I don't know, whether it's today or the lead up to today, you know, you got a ton of people in Saskatchewan watching this, but you've got a ton of people across Canada watching this. Yeah. What should they know about what's happening here in Saskatchewan tonight? You know, like I think one thing that really, that really stands out here with what we've got going on.

There's going to be some similarities, I think, here between, you know, what we've seen happen in B.C. We saw it happen in the last Alberta election too. Like we are going to be, you can see it already on the map, you guys had there. Like we're going to be dealing with a very thick rural urban divide here in Saskatchewan. And I think it's probably the thickest it's ever been. You know, I'm fortunate. I get a chance to visit with a lot of people face-to-face, especially with doing like the comedy tour that I've been doing in the last little while.

And it's, you know, it's everywhere. There's a lot of places that you've gone that you consider being like a safe sass party seat. And you talk to a lot of people that are not happy with the direction. The SaaS party has been going in the last little while, right? You know, lots of people just looking for maybe a change. Maybe we've had a leader in for a little bit too long. SAS party's been in for what, 17 years here now. You know, I think one of the bigger things in Saskatchewan, it's not just Saskatchewan.

I mean, it's nationwide. But a lot of people are very frustrated with health care, you know, from having maybe older people being able to get long-term care, of things even short-term care most people that you talk to i believe once they do get into health care and can actually get treatment the treatments there but it's a matter of getting in and getting out of the hallway right and um like from from the outside looking in just diving in the conversation there i think that's going to be one of the biggest hurdles for the SaaS party to overcome is to run on their track record but brad wall did a fantastic job when they got in they started

they started making change for the better you know um and i think that's one thing that they're they've kind of taken their eye off the ball of keeping healthcare being the number one priority. And now I think with both parties that would be eligible to be elected here, be it at NDP or SaaS party, I don't really see anything in anybody's platform that says, hey, we're going to fix healthcare. It just says we're going to throw more money at health care. Well, at some point in time, if throwing money doesn't work, we've got to come up with something else.

I mean, you know what? We've actually worked $2 billion last year. We're going to spend $3 billion this year. And next year we're going to spend $11 billion. Well, that's great. Spend everything you want. But if it doesn't work and you're spending more at it, are we really winning anything here? No, and really, if we're paying for bureaucrats to administer the health care,

it doesn't help anybody that's looking for treatment or find a physician. Well, that's what we. Well, in Alberta, actually, in Alberta, they went on a prove-your-worth tour through their health care, through Alberta health services. Danielle Smith went in and fired her entire executive. and then sent one of her pit bull MLAs in there and said to every single health care worker in Alberta Health Services, listen, you tell me what you're doing to help patients in Alberta health care or you're losing your dog.

Here's your pink slip. And that's what has to happen in Saskatchewan and hasn't. So, yeah, I don't think that throwing money is going to solve anything either, especially with the infrastructure, critical infrastructure shortage, especially in the rural areas where you have people traveling two and three and four hours to deliver babies and to get cancer treatments. And, you know, I think it's, I think it's a little bit too little too late on that end. Well, the four-hour trip's the shortest part of the whole health care thing. It's interesting, though, that it doesn't matter which province you talk about lately,

they all, regardless of who's in charge, their health care sucks. And to QDM's point, you know, the only socially acceptable answer seems to be to throw more money at it and politicians are just worried about the third rail of like well what if we looked at something different? What if we tried something different and they're worried that that's going to cost them an election

and it's interesting that they all just say well we'll spend more money and none of them are willing to say hey you know what no amount of money is ever going to be enough. We need to look at a different approach. Yeah. It's a reimagining of it right?

I think that's what needs to happen with a lot of things. I mean, we just seem to slide into status quo on a lot of things that we do. And then everybody just turns that into the social norm of what's happening. And they're just like, well, let's just do that, but let's do it harder. We're like, well, at some point in time, that's not going to work anymore, right? You know, I think some good ideas with healthcare. I've heard a lot of professionals in the industry, not even from here, but I mean, you know, people from Switzerland and a few other places talk about, you know, reimagining the workload. I mean, if we look, how many years?

ago that we had you know one doctor handling you know anywhere between 1,000 2,500 patients and nowadays we can only handle a thousand for doctor I mean burnout might be a part of that but I mean are we burying them in paperwork and are we making it so that doctors don't have to yeah yes yes yes so I think we really need to look at a lot of that stuff you know like maybe we need to well I'd sound the danger of being a politician here but all of the above approach kind of thing you know what I mean but it's just we just can't keep spinning in our tires and doing the same thing.

And I think it's... Go ahead. I just want to seed Premier Quick Dick, Mick Dick into the universe right now, okay? I don't get the language abilities for that, but... Don't discount it right.

Don't discount it, Dick, okay? Do any of us think at this point you need to have great dictation on, like, you need to have this beautiful language? You ever heard of... You ever heard of...

you never heard of Ralph Klein? Okay, the most popular and what he was was in every man who told people the truth and did what he did what he was. And supposedly, he was a guy who walked in and said, I don't want to get reelected. And he went and did things most people wouldn't.

And then what happened? They reelected him. And then they said it was the most popular premier of all time. And like, huh, what a funny idea to walk in and not try and get reelected and just do things that makes sense. And all of a sudden, you're getting reelected all the time. That must have totally suck for him.

Hear this, QD? Do you hear this? Hey, hey, guys, listen, I want to hang out here all night, but I got another appearance right now. No, no, Lee's, thanks for, thanks for, thanks for hopping on. We appreciate it. I should be kicking a few of you people out. I love having you all on. And, but regardless, Lees, we appreciate you, you know, doing this, hop on the set. We will see each other on X, okay?

Let's all be besties. Okay, all the best John Newman podcast, people. Bye. Nice meeting you, Lee. I'm absolutely wonderful. The quick point there, I've heard John Romick say a number of time, it's not a money problem, it's a management problem. Right. So the like with the health care, you know, I'm not saying I know how to fix it.

The NDP has said that as well. I've heard them all say. Can we go back to the fact that a lot of people lost their jobs through the pandemic, like nurses and practitioners and doctors that still haven't been rehired by any health positions in this province? I've met people all the way across this country, the same thing. And we've got a lot of able people that are willing to be out there. But for some reason, that stigma around being vaccinated or unvaccinated is still something that's the people are hanging on to. Well, I mean, results. Do you guys want to go through the results?

There's like some stuff coming in. Yeah, we should probably talk about that. So SaaS party's leading in 22. The NDP are leading in four. and there's nobody else leading in any other writings at the moment. Well, the thing about the results, sorry, Nadine, yeah, have your way. No, I was just going to say, if you click on it, I don't know if you can see it the same as me. I'm like obsessed right now and so stressing out over this.

So I was like clicking on each of the ones. Like if you look at the NDP 1 in the north, some are close, but like the one, it looks like, I don't know if can you click on it or no, you don't get to see it. We can just hover over it and it'll come up. So for example, we've got the Cumberland riding up there and the NDP are leading by one vote. Okay, so yeah, but then the other one, so if you go Athabasca,

Jim LaMague, he's losing by quite a bit, which probably means he's going to lose that seat. And that was one I was hoping was going to stay. Like that's a real riding, right? Athabasca is only reporting 8 of 31 at the moment. So it's still pretty, early. Yeah, so it's 400 to 147 is what the

Athabasca is showing. And the thing about it is like, I guess why we on this side, we're like, well, we're going to bring it up and keep showing, but until you get what, past is it going to be closer to 10 o'clock? You know, you got all these polling stations start to feed into it. You don't start announcing a hockey

game until the third period, right? Are you true? It is interesting. It is a, it is funny thing. When we did the BC live election, we had people, we got off on some weird

tangents. And we had people commenting, these are great tangents. Can we just fight up with the elections doing? And that's fair. So, you know, I look at this conversation. And I like hearing the different thought processes, because no matter what we do tonight, we're not actually changing anything of the results.

All we're going to do is just talk about them. And, you know, we should probably be doing this in a lead up to the election. Yeah. Be a little bit more informed on the issues and what people are seeing and you don't try and create that I don't know a little bit of a spotlight on politics

not only in Saskatchewa. Yeah, have a nice buildup. You know, go, you know, the day before or something like that and say, yeah, yeah, all the NDP voters we created a special voting day for you guys on Tuesday. I don't know what you're telling me, Brett.

No, that's illegal. If you just check the date of the week there, Sean, you'd catch up with them in a second there. No, I got, he's not listening. I'm not listening. You know what I'm doing right now? This is what I'm doing. I'm going to show them again so that people can see what I'm dealing with here.

Here's Brett QDM. He's working at the back. He's flagging me down. And as everybody knows, I can only focus on so much. I'm like, uh-huh. Oh, yeah? And then I'm getting in the year that I'm getting made fun of. I'm like, I don't know what's happening.

Yeah. And so I guess to be clear also, none of the mail-in ballots have been counted yet. Yeah. I think that's on the 30th. I believe they're counting mail-in ballots on the 30th. Well, here's the thing. And tell me if I'm out of line here, somebody jump in and tell me if I'm crazy.

But if elections and democracy is super important, why in the hell would we entrust the mail-in ballots to Canada Post? Yeah. Well, apparently we're going to trust prohibited weapons to them. So why not the ballot do, right? Why would you count? You know, I hate to put my tinfoil hat on for just a second, but I'm going to do it anyways. Maybe it never comes off anymore.

Why would you allow mail-in ballots to be counted two days later? Yeah, it's so, like, to my understanding, mail-in ballots had to have been received by the 26th. Am I wrong in saying that? I'm not sure exactly. I believe it was by the 26th, and I have no idea why there would be a four-day gap in when we would count them. I don't get it. I know why. I'd have a four-day count and why we count them.

just you know I'll just pen drop walk off the stage I won't be invited back here the thing is is whether there is any chicanery going on or not why make it look like there's chicanery going on we know there's chicanery going on I mean I've had too many I'm not poking at the

SaaS party or any of the I'm just poking at politics in general chicanery is part of the game it is exactly what happened it is but I mean you should be setting things up so that they look at least look on the up and up as much as possible instead of saying, oh yeah, we've got voting stations in Vancouver down

and oh, it's super tight, but we're not going to be doing any of the counting until the weekend. How fucking ludicrous is it that you've got government employees that you're going to send in on the weekend to count votes?

Yeah. Does that smell suspicious to anybody else? Do you guys know what the procedure is? for the mailing ballots? Like, I've been trying to find it. And I can't find that anywhere. You would think it'd be something that they would be talking about on mainstream media to quash, like the concerns, the very real concerns over electoral integrity.

I'd looked it up for Saskatchewan because I was curious if we were going to go past 8 p.m. tonight with what Quick Dick's talking about. Like how many days later they can, I'll see if I can pull it up here. You guys carry on and I'll see if I can find it. If I'm not mistaken, I believe there was somewhere around 30,000 mail-in ballots registered. And like this is, I've been looking at a lot of numbers for a bunch of different things. And airbag numbers lately. You'll follow me on that one, Barbara, because I'm trying to keep my trailers completely rolled legal, right?

And I believe it's somewhere in the ballpark of 30,000. But regardless of what it is, I mean, I think that we should, we haven't set up so that they had to be submitted, I believe, two days ago. And then, yeah, I don't think there should be a gap. happened counting it, but at the same time, like, I don't foresee us being in the same situation that BC was in this election. I could be proven wrong yet tonight. I don't think we're quite there yet. And I don't think you're going to see elections as close very often as what is happening in BC, but it's not strange for that to happen in Saskatchewan's history. There's been some close elections where it's been, you know, four, five, six days before everything

gets counted. What I can tell you is that I do know people in my community that actually work for elections Canada and and I I trust the system here I honestly do we still do we have you have to provide your identification when you go to vote in Saskatchewan and we have employees that are that are vetted to be there counting a ballot a paper ballot that was marked in person or somebody that has shown an ID and your mailing ballots are actually it's I mean any system can be tampered with I think at any system that I've seen I think we do have one of the one of the better ones here in Saskatchew, to be honest, you guys. According to Sask votes,

49,420 people voted on Saturday, and 273,010 ballots were cast early during the voting week. Yeah, so that'd be advanced polls, right? Yeah, and then... So that's 33% of registered voters

voted before today. Yeah, I think the... I think the second day of advanced polls was the most voting that ever happened in advanced polls, right? And I've heard a few, I've heard a few commentators, especially on the election, be like, well, that could be a sign that people are ready for a change in government. I would counter that and say, I think it's just been, it's more important for everybody right now to get out in vote, right? I'll tell you guys, if we got two seconds, I'll tell you something that I've found just in my riding here.

This is what we're here for. I've made a point, especially with this election, just because I've been, you know, involved in so many communities and everything. especially I'll grab some younger people out of the audience who we're obviously having a conversation I'll be like that like don't you don't have to tell me I'll be like but like do you have decided who you're going to be voting for this year and more often than not if you're in a rural setting and it was a younger male that you were talking to you they were like yeah the SaaS party I was like okay well that's cool I was like who's uh who's your MLA who are you voting for and they'd be like well Scott Moe like no no who's representing you as your MLA and you're you're riding that you're going to be sending to the ledge and 98% of them not a clue how many how many candidates are running in your riding I don't know what's your riding yeah now that's the one that gets them yeah you know so like what I've been trying to do is it's kind of after the reason that I did that fast little clip that I did I was kind of shocked at how many at how many

people not just I'm not just saying rural communities and young males I mean it was everywhere there were very few that I talked to that actually had an idea of who they were voting for and why, right? Grade six social studies. And most people, I guess, were sick that year. Social studies has changed. Well, can you've been around the entire province? What did you see when it came to people not being in tune? You know, because quick take raising very, I look at that.

this room and I'm like, I don't know if there's many people who've talked to more people than this group sitting right here. What have, what have you seen from your tours? Well, we were touring, you know, post post-COVID mandates and what you'd see is a lot of people that were engaged that were just upset with the government telling them how to live their lives and what they're supposed to do or not to. I would see, following that period, I would just agree with with QuickDeck is it there's just a lot of people that don't understand the basic mechanics. you know, the whole split the vote in the rural area. It's like, like we've already gone over to beginning the show.

Like our MLA had 84% of the vote and NDPs had 500, right? Like, you know, we've already hit this. But just so few people understand the basic mechanics of the electoral process. I'm shocked by it, actually. Yeah, you were actually, I was listening to you talk about that earlier, there, Kenon. Like, I agree with a lot of what you were saying there. And that's, I think that's one of the things that we've really lost our way.

I had, we had two late candidates joined and arrived. And I reach out as myself, not as quick dick, to any candidates that are going to be running in my riding, which everybody should, right? Because technically, like, they're asking for your vote. They're asking for the privilege of your vote for you to send a ledge, right? And I found some good in the three out of the four candidates that got back to me in each one of what they were running for. I mean, there was, like, some of their party, some of the, some of the policies that their party would have on their platform, I just couldn't agree and vote for, especially with one of them that actually took time to come and meet me. And, you know, at the end of the day, I can't support a carbon tax, you know what I mean? So, but like that, like that being said, you know, we need to have that.

That's a big part of democracy and freedom. You shouldn't be, you shouldn't be afraid to put your vote where you feel that your best wishes are going to be representative. it at ledge and you shouldn't have to trade that up to trade it for who you fear might foreign government if you don't give your vote to the only other option that there would be to keep that government out that shouldn't be how this works right agree you should be voting for somebody instead of voting against somebody else absolutely and like i think and like like ken like specifically i will like i just for a minute like if you go federally with the maverick party i mean that was a that was a big uh concern that a lot of people had and i had it

the last time I voted federally as well, right? But it only takes a few times for you to really look at how the mechanics of it work and you start to reconsider where you're going to cast your vote. Hey, Shawnee, my phone's about to die, so I don't want to do it weirdly and just disappear. I should probably have died 2%. Kenny, we appreciate you coming on and giving us your perspective. Always a pleasure, Ken.

It's been greatly appreciate it. Good see you. See you, Chris. See you, everybody. Nice to see you, Ken. There you go. Well, we went from, we got word, Brad Walls, not going to be showing up, which sucks. It's the second one tonight.

We had Jerry Ritz not be able to find his way in. And I don't mean that as anything wrong with Jerry. I just mean he was having issues. And he was at an RM meeting. So we've had a couple of guests not be able to. That's okay. We're still sitting pretty. Oh, I agree.

It was just a couple of things that I had on the list of the timelines. If people were wondering, I've just got a note from that. And then Jerry Ritz early on was another one. So SaaS parties at 25, they're leading. in the NDPs leading in five right now. So there you go. Stop starting to come in from Regina and Shocker of all shockers. It's orange,

as in orange you're going to put tampons in the bathroom. So if you go back up to Cumberfield, you remember we were talking, Nadine was brought up. Cumberland, sorry, Cumberfield. You look at the writings now.

You see the Sass party up 335 to 240, once again, real early. And going over to Athabasca, 490 to 188. That's where we sit now. It's so funny. Does anybody ever, like, you don't want to see the United States of America and they do

the big red and they got these little blue dots, you know, and it's like, whenever you get into like your home provinces and you see like a sea of green now and just a little bit of orange, like, what a strange phenomenon. And, you know, I used to think it was Sean. And, and like the more time I, I keep referencing my comedy show, but like, This literally, it gets me into every basically town that exists, small town in this province and in Alberta and someplace in Manitoba. And it's already here about that. But it's in your shows.

When I get into a bigger center in like even in Saskatchewan, if you're doing something closer to Regina or Saskatoon, like you even feel the difference in the content, in the content that you use and people's sense of humor and then you talk with the crowd afterwards. And I'm not saying we might see a majority NDP in both Saskatoon and Regina, but it doesn't mean say that there's not a whole bunch of conservatives that would vote either SaaS Party or somewhere else, right? It's just that there's more of the other than what numbers the conservatives, right? But it's just, it's super strange because there's so many things that are so important to people in cities that we would just never consider an issue here in rural Saskatchewan. And that goes everywhere.

We're seeing in elections everywhere. But, like, I know that there's a moderate amount of homelessness that exists in some more rural areas. But, I mean, in a lot of these places that you see that are a sea of green, like a lot of addictions and homelessness don't exist. Well, you're absolutely right about the jokes. When you and I, well, when you and I did that show here in Lloyd last year, I had this one bit about a Jerry can that got left out in the sun too long and how it swells up. and it killed in Lloyd. Like it was, you know, one of those paws, wait for everybody to stop laughing

and continue with the joke things. I told that same joke in downtown Calgary, crickets. Well, did they even know what a cherry can is? Or what happens to it when you leave it out. Sorry, Calgarians. I know that you know what a Jerry can is. Some of you don't.

Well, you talk. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, no. Go ahead. Well, I was just going to do this little song and dance, aren't we? Nope, I'm not.

Nope. Nadine, the mic is all yours, please. Okay, I was going to see. I was going to jump in here for a second. I was going to say a quick person to look forward to in the results, which the first results has come in for Saskatoon, Mewasson. So if you want to talk about like an extreme NDP, Nathaniel Tead would be one of those. Like, I don't know if you guys know.

but we were at the million person March last year. And Nathaniel Teed was there. And he was cheering on these people who were yelling and swearing and doing sexual gestures at children. And he was laughing and cheering them on. But anyways, there's this up-and-comer SaaS party candidate that I really love, Maureen tour. And I wasn't sure how she was going to do. But the first results have come in. And she's one vote ahead.

So 43 to 42, I know it's really early, but I love seeing a result like that because that means he's got a lot more to worry about than we weren't sure where it was going to go. I really hope she wins. Don't they say that there's 60% of the population that sits there quietly and doesn't want to get involved until it reaches them? I think we're getting bloody ass close to that happening. The men who just want to be left alone thing.

Yeah. It's common, isn't it? There's a huge immigration population in the cities, and they're not taking a very loud voice in the public, so you're not seeing it in the news media or anything like that. But like SAS, that writing would be considered one that's very much high immigration population, and they're not okay with some of the stuff that's happening in the school. I know the Muslim community as well as the Filipino community had all reached out to us to try, to support like changes for parental rights and stuff.

So even though they say that parental rights is going to negatively affect the city, I don't think it's going to be to the extent that they think. They just can't say it. They can't say it publicly because they'll get canceled or attack. So I think this election will really show, I think, where that kind of immigrant population with like traditional values is going to sway. And I'm just really happy about that one.

So I'll keep obsessing. over the results while you guys chat and do jokes. I had a, go ahead, sorry, Chris. I had a conversation with a lady that immigrated here from India six years ago, and she said to me today in Swift Current that when she first came to her, she thought Justin Trudeau was the end all, like the, the absolute, the best thing.

But in the last six years of her living in this economy and seeing how much money she takes home at the end of the day, she's swayed her vote now. And that's just one person that I spoke with today. There's so many more out there. You know, I just want to point out, I'm glad Nadine's here to keep us on track and to keep coming back to the election ridings. Because if it was just the rest of us, Yahoo's, we'd be talking about, you know, our lives of the past and fun things we do and on and on it goes. We probably get off to some tangents, which we've been doing.

But Nadine's here. She's going to make sure that we run a clean show and we talk about what's happening in the election. So why don't we do that quickly? Here, there you go. That was your segue? That is my segue. 286, 26, 6. I don't know if there's anything shot. Okay, is, um, okay, so that's, that's the Saskatoon, Miwason.

If you just go back here real quick. Oh, where was it here? All right. So there's Saskatoon, Silver Spring and here's, well, which one was, there's Mawson. Okay, so if I'm looking at that right, that's, um, that's just on the east side of the river coming north past college. Is that roughly what that is? Yeah. So I think it would be, oh, what's the name of that?

Like on the right, what's the name of that road? I drive on it all the time. Spadina. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up Spadina, kind of along Lawson area, I believe, all in that area. It's, there are a lot of left leaning in that area. And there's one neighborhood that's extremely like pushes all the woke stuff. but there's a lot of apartment buildings and a lot of the polls or even the door knocking

are not reaching the apartment buildings. And I want to say that this fact that makes it really interesting because in some of the by-elections in Ontario, the ones where the conservatives won, they were polling like they were losing. And the difference was the apartment buildings because most of the immigrants who live in apartment buildings. And that was actually one of the biggest difference that that helped them win the by-election. So I think that writing will be that. And then also, Maureen is an immigrant herself. So I think that helps the immigrant population also identify with her. She's one of us. So I think it's

going to lead them to go out more likely to vote as well. So where's she from? I think it's Uganda. She's actually quite interesting. I didn't know about her when she put her name forward. Someone just messaged me and said, is she one of us? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know who she is. And I looked her up and she's actually quite interesting. She ran and-

One of us, do you mean a homo sapien? No, one of us as in a freedom-loving, good, strong, traditional Canadian value, one of us like that. So basically, does she have the. the similar values as our organization, our nonprofit. And then I looked her up and I just got more and more impressed by her resume. But the thing that was really interesting is she started an orphanage in Uganda. And a lot of her supporters are from Canada. Now, when she put her, and I hope this is okay to share, when she put her name forward

to run for the SaaS party, a lot of her funding pulled from the orphanage. They said we are NDP. We're not going to support. Imagine, NDP, supporting an orphanage that helps, like, not privileged children in Uganda, and they pulled their funding from. So like now, not only is she running, she's trying to figure out how she's going to fund this. But that's the state of the left, right?

They'll support you unless you think differently than that they do. And then they'll throw you and kick you in the dirt. But anyways, I do hope she wins. She's one of the ones that I've been praying really hard that she wins. But yeah, interesting tidbit. Did I get you guys breathless on this? The hate to the left, I see it every day on my social media. I'm not sure about you, Sean.

We were just talking about that earlier. Put up the tweet again. I mean, I think I still have it. Oh, shoot. I certainly, I don't know. On this end, the who's who of right-wing conspiracy theorist, bigots, and a seditionist. So I think they were talking about me as far as the seditionist.

Which is funny because somebody who fights against the establishment in power. I just, to me, I look at it and you go, okay, how could you've had a more balanced show? You could have added in somebody from the Liberal Party and the NDP and on and on and on. Well, actually, they're the Saskatchewan Progress part. party because for some reason they decided that they didn't want to be called liberals anymore. I wonder why that is. I wonder, yeah. I kind of wanted to know who came up with their logo.

Like, I think they were trying to, like, incorporate one of those old spinner things. You used to put a pan in and then spin it around the paper and then make it look like a hurricane or something. I don't know. You know, before we go on, I'm going to look it up here. I haven't seen their logo yet. Oh, yeah, there you go. It kind of reminds me of the Ottawa City logo, doesn't it? Like, there's a six.

Can you pull that up on the screen? Yeah, yeah. Here, let's pull this up so everybody could see. Oh, yeah, yeah, there we go. There we go. There's the Saskatchewan Progress Party. Which is maybe a pinwheel, one that you get on a plastic. Well, no, no, what it is.

And this is totally on brand for a liberal party is it's a downward spiral. It's going down in the dream. That's what it is. They're going down in the dream. Yeah. Yeah, well done. Actually, that's probably the best political logo out of anybody in Canada. Good for them.

It actually says what they are. I should, I should, you know, I forgive me, folks. Normally in the world of podcasting, I don't go break to the sponsors of the show over and over again. But heck, this is what, we got two companies that stepped up and helped us along here. AMC Electrical. They're based at a Rocky Mountain House. and I'm sure I'm sure Quick Dix going, Rocky Mountain House, that isn't Saskatchewan.

That seems odd. Maybe not. Maybe I'm speaking out of turn. Yeah, but he is probably, probably originally from Saskatchewan enforced out of Saskatchewan by the NDP. Correct. He's originally from Corning, Saskatchewan, quick. You perform there?

No, I haven't been in Corning yet, but. Corning, a little hamlet. There you go. So Drew, the owner of AMC, is proud of his heritage coming from small town, Saskatchin. He says, whether you need a pump jack, looked at a shop wired, a grain dryer installed, an LED conversion in your story.

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Back to the show, folks. I just want to make sure I sneak that in. All right. And as always, on the mash-up, we like to give special mention to anybody in the comments who has nice things to say about twos. And so, C-R-Toney, twos again for the win. Thanks for that. This is what I deal with on this show. I feel like you might be appealing for people with large foreheads.

I had to look where Corning, Saskatchewan is. It is North Carolina in Saskatchewan for anybody that wants to know that. That wasn't funny, Deereen. Stop encouraging him. Why am I the only one to react to that? Because it wasn't that funny. Because he's got a large forehead? What I love is men do this so well.

Men will razz each other and tease each other. and it's a show of affection. So I actually love it when men give each other heck because it shows that they have really healthy relationships. And you're more likely to see this on the right than you are on the left. Yeah, but you don't, maybe when twos and I are actually together in real life, we hold hands. You don't know that, yeah.

You have no idea. Romance. I'm going to say that doesn't happen. I don't know. Maybe we could be wrong. Going on a limb there. We were starting the show and I was hitting twos. So, you know, as it was all.

Yeah, we were literally hitting each other back and forth as the, as the intro video was on and we were going live. Yes. I was going to throw a question at you guys. Where, if any, do you guys think SAS United Party would have a chance in a riding? They don't look like they're having a chance. Sorry, you can go and answer. But if you look at the results, they're coming in. And Nadine Wilson is not doing.

well, I don't know, do you see them? Sorry, I can't remember which riding. Sass Rivers? Saskatchewan Rivers. So, Sass party. Yeah, I didn't have Nadine picked at winning her riding there. I'm afraid if SEP was going to get anything that John would get. John Ramek.

Yeah, but right now in Saskatchewan Rivers, the SaaS party is 738 votes the NDP 366 SAS United 174 oh yeah I don't think you can come up yeah I don't think you can come back from from that but maybe well they're there they're 12 of 34 so statistically yes like we know yeah yeah same with John so if you go to John so Blaine's at 688 Shantel is that Lumsden Morse, right? Yeah.

Blaine is a Nicanette too. So, yeah, John Romick, that writing, 688, Saskatchewan, 208 NDP, 172,

Sask United. So only 8 of 31 reporting so far. He not, didn't he not just take over for, he won the by election. He won the by election. He won the by election.

He's been, he's like, This is a re-elect situation. How many is reporting in Lumsden, Morris? 8 of 31. 8 of 31. So still room there for things. More just came in.

11.131. Moore just came in. So 1,023 for Blaine and 23 for John. Yeah, there you go. And that's 11 out of 31. That was the only one where I thought Saske United would have a shot, just talking to people in that neck of the woods. John did do a lot of town halls.

He did do a lot of town halls. But they, I would say they were totally ineffectual in social media. Like they did nothing. And I want to see them do well. But at the same time, just so that's, that's where I'm coming from. But with this, they didn't do anything flashy. They didn't do anything to garner interest. There was nothing that I saw on any social media.

that made people look at it and say, oh, you know what, that's interesting. I want to hear more about it. Or, oh, hey, that's the kind of thing I want to get behind. It was just they tweeted like politicians. They did videos like politicians. And it was very low energy, boring. Have some fun with it.

Be interesting. And I didn't see any of that. And I think that was a big opportunity for them to differentiate themselves that they didn't capitalize on. So John is a very charismatic. person. He's a very good speaker. I've heard him on, on John, not John, on Evan Bray's show. So well spoken, very quick on his feet. But yeah, you're right. They didn't create good content that would get shares or retweeted or or just shared in general. You'd have your typical few people

that would always share their post, but it didn't have further reach. And I think it's because like it was the same technique. They would say something and then they would attack most. say something attack Moe. Even when Mo was doing some good stuff, this is just what I saw. That won't make people want to share. It won't invoke emotions where they want to share because they might agree with A,

but they might not agree with B. Do you know what I mean? Don't you think in order for the Sask United to like take a huge chunk, like a chomp out of and win a seat or five or whatever the number is and people's heads. The problem is they're trying to take it from the SaaS party,

which historically has a really good name. Right? For 17 years, love and you hate it. Brad Wall. Right. And the thing is, is every time SaaS party was starting to do brutal things. And I think of, honestly, I think of the one million mark for children and just what was going on in schools. I'd

had a lot of interviews around Lumsden and just some things going on in schools that I was not okay with. And I was waiting for the SaaS party to come in and really hammer it. And what Sask United did is they made sure to speak to that. There was a ton of buzz around that. And then SAS Party had the Trump card. They're the governing

body. They went, parents will have choice. Parents will be involved in the school. They laid down the card. And once they did that, everyone went, oh, SaaS Party's got it. Right? Or am I wrong on that? Because the SaaS party gets to decide as a governing

body when they see a competitor starting to rise. They're like, well, we can do that. Boom. they did. I mean, that's politics, isn't it? And no, it is. That's one thing that, you know, I saw them talking about it a little bit, but they didn't really capitalize on it. And that, like, there was nothing, I think what I was trying to say was that anytime I saw a tweet from the Sask United Party or anybody in the

Sask United Party, it was something where I would just kind of inwardly sigh and scroll past for the most part because it wasn't, it just, they need to hire Red. They need to hire Quick Dick McDick. I mean, I don't have time. I don't have time. But if they paid you 100 grand, you tell them you wouldn't be like, well, okay, whoop.

And, you know? Oh, I wouldn't. Your influence changed when you start getting paid. Because then you're a paid person, not someone who speaks from them. So I'd counter that. I had a few people from political parties approach me and try and get my endorsement as quick to get behind them.

And I was like, no, it's not what the character's about. Like, The character for what Dick is about just being an honest guy that I'm just going to shoot from the hip and call him as a museum. I don't care what parties do and what. I've had plenty of people on the right hand side of the spectrum get pissy at me and call me a communist that some things that I've said to, you know what I mean? But I mean, welcome to the world.

You know, for some different things, though, like, I mean, as far as when it comes down to maybe different equipment to different events and some different stuff, you know, there's stuff that I believe in that I can get behind. I'd be like, actually, well, here's what the price tag is going to be for me to promote it online and I'll do it. but I've tested it. I know it's good products. It's got to be made in Canada. There's a few other criteria that I put in there. And the only rule that I have with anything that I do as a guy on social media that's under the influence most of the time is, I'll be like it's my way. And I might swear and I might do this and I might do that. And I was like, it's going to be what I'm feeling at the time. If at any point in time, you don't like it, then you can kick rocks. Forgive me, I wasn't meaning go out and hire Quick Dick McDick and hire 22 minutes. What I was saying-

That's exactly what you said. No, no, no, no. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Fair enough. What I'm pointing to is that they can think outside the box, see what Quick Dick McDick does really well. See what 222 minutes does really well. See what the online world is doing really well.

See what shows like this are doing very well. And adjust because they can't fight the same war that SaaS Party can because they're the governing party. They can't fight the same war. what the NDPs doing because they're not the NDP. If you turn in the NDP, nobody's going to vote for you. And I mean, I don't know, I'm seeing that. I don't know. That's

what I meant. I know what came off is like, just go higher quick dick. But I mean, to me, I'm going outside the box. What? Oh, we got our first little bit of love in the comments for the NDP. So I just want to say how to purple ACC. Well, there you go. I apologize. I got

Wayne Peters sitting in the background. I should probably bring him in. He's probably going, did they forget about me? He's an independent Canadian journalist to his gain recognition for his work in media, particularly through his platform on Rumble and other social media channels where he hosts What's Up, Kanda Wayne? Thanks for hopping on with us.

Hey, Wayne. I am humbled to be in the pleasure of a company of such amazing individuals. I was enjoying the show from afar already for several hours. So as I mentioned to Sean earlier, I have currently fled Saskatchewans, And so I haven't really been paying attention to this particular election, although I spent a huge amount of time there in the last couple of years.

So I said to them, you know, I'm happy to join you. Maybe I can provide some comedic relief and get a chance to meet Quick Dick and Chris, a couple of guys that I've also followed for a very, very long time and have not had the pleasure of meeting yet. So a matching opportunity when it presents, Sean asks, you know, Sean, you're a victim of your of your own quality as an individual. When you ask somebody, they show up. So you got me. Here I am.

Well, the thing that I enjoy about having different people from, you know, similar maybe walks life at times, I sit here and I listen to all you. And you all bring up very good perspectives. It's one of the things I like about dialogue. And the fact that you fled Saskatchew, I'm like, well, I think, you know, that's a perspective that's interesting because at the end of the day, how many people fled Saskatchewan when it was under NDP rule? I mean,

they used to say there was more people in Alberta from Saskatchewan than Albertans for Pete's sake. Right? Like there was just everywhere you went, you ran into somebody who fled Saskatchewan trying to find a better way. So I just, to me, Wayne, you know,

by having you on stage in Emmington years ago now, um, my thoughts on your perspective, you're a guy who looks at things, um, and has caught on to things quicker than, than some. And I was just,

you know, to me, whether or not you come in with this earth-shattering opinion, to have you on and to add your thoughts to discussion, this is your realm as well. So I thought it would be wonderful to have you back on this side. That's why the invite continued to come from me. I humbled your far too gracious and kind. Like you said, I'm always enthusiastic and gets to meet people that are making a difference, not because it's easy, but because it's the right thing to do. And that's pretty much enough for me to be interested in people and what they're doing. And I try to just connect people that can help better each other, our communities, and

our country. That's kind of really all I've been after since I committed to accepting the fact that the popular reality was not the living reality. And, you know, when you study history and politics and the convergence of the two, it's not such a mystery what's really happening. So I just, you know, when I decided to do this, I think one of the things we all have in common here is we've all paid a price to do what we're doing. And some of us, unexpectedly, I knew what I was walking into when I decided to take this path that I'm on. but I think that this is the most interesting time in history. And we all grew up wanting to be superheroes.

Well, here we are, pitter-patter, right? Well, you said you've been watching since the start, Wayne. What is it about the group that's been assembled six? And we've been talking about different things that stood out to you. Is there any one thing you're like, ah, man, when this was said, you know, because I am kind of curious from a guy who's been watching the entire time. You know, I've kind of been one of the early adopters of the new media when I first started. The only one's going was Dan Dix and Faith Goldie, right?

And so it's been a long time, a lot of lessons. I've seen a lot come and go. But one thing that is consistent, and I knew, Vincent, you were putting this together. You have a talent and an ability as well. You sell yourself short. You're a humble guy, too. But it boils down to one thing. The people that you were bringing on here are all.

all authentic. They speak from their hearts. They're genuine and they're true to what they believe in. And whether you agree or disagree is irrelevant. Great. Bring it. Let's have a discussion. And we'll carry on the next day. And when we'll think up something more, we'll have another discussion. And that I think is ultimately what brings all of us into this space collectively. So when I saw this coming together and you and invited me, I was like, all in. this is what the world needs more of and you guys are going to get respective invites in return right

this is how we shatter the silos and we become what they fear the most people looking after people and having dialogue that makes sense so well as as you can see appreciate the words Wayne as you can see I think I saw quick dick drinking something I'm going to assume Great Western maybe

maybe it's actually just the straight up bubbly are you drinking a bubbly Oh, wow. You actually do want to hold hands, don't you? It was on the counter when I literally got home. I was planning on showering and everything tonight. I got home, I came down, put the laptop open and jumped right on, and I was like two minutes late.

And this happened to be on the way down here. So here, I'm just suffering. And I'm drinking chide tea. There you go. I don't know if people are serious. Hey? Is that bohemian? That is bohemian.

Do you guys? Oh, boy, it better be warm. You know, it's funny. I was, because there wasn't enough room in his fridge over there. I could only fit eight of them in. And then I was thinking to myself, I was like, well, we got four sitting off to the side. And then I was, I was thinking to myself, well, you know what? If I was drinking them warm, I'd probably want to be on a tailgate.

So I had the exact same thought you did. That's true. I thought every good Saskatchewan I drank Pilsner. There goes a stigma. There's different kinds of Milsner. It's a big story. But you would have been very proud. I was up in E-DAM right up in your neck of the woods there, Sean.

I was an E-DAM on Saturday night. And I had a hat full of Bohemian as my spinach on stage there. Nice. Two's literally called around Lloyd so he could find Bohemian. Me and him argue about it. I thought for sure you've been able to find it closer to. No, you got to go to the one on the Saskatchew. Hey, I want to do breaking news.

That's not even on the wall. Yeah. Breaking news. I have a friend that is on the inside. They're doing the counting and stuff and it looks like Yurton will go like pretty solid Sass Party, which is really good news because their new candidate, David Chan, I would say is one of us. as in he's a freedom-loving, very against communism, very against Marxism, very against woke ideology. He's, so I was really hoping he was going to win, which I'm really happy to see. But anyways, those are the prelim— It doesn't have anybody reporting yet. No, no, it doesn't.

That's why he's breaking. I'm telling you from inside. Well, no, I— I'm not disputing you. I'm just trying to add. We're undermining election integrity. Oh, are we? Okay.

Judy, in Lloyd, you got to go all the way to the liquor store on the end of town by the co-op. Yeah, the one Sask liquor store. I think I'm right in saying that. Okay. Yeah, isn't it funny how, you know, the imaginary lines we draw on maps end up with, you know, corresponding pros and cons? Like, there's only one liquor store on the Saskatchews. one side of the city.

Yeah, because you got to, am I wrong on this? Anyone from Lloyd, correct me if I'm wrong, you pay more for alcohol on the sass side. Yeah. And then growing up, there was only, in my recollection, one bar, Esse's on the sass side.

Why? No, the Capri. You had to be, you had, okay, okay, all right, whatever. I mean, come on. The Capri, nobody went to the Capri. I went to the Capri. You could show up,

you could spend all, All I'm saying is get covered in schmag, show up, sit down, pay $3 for a double burger and fries, and they'd welcome you in, and you'd fit right in with all the other clients. The reason why, as these was, there was not a ton of things on the SaaS side is you had to be 19. As soon as you cross the border, you've got to be your older. So where is the 17, 18 year olds going to the other side? If you're 17, you're 19, you're going. If you're 17, you already got a fake ID, who cares which side of the bar, which side of the

Okay, well, pick your, pick your age range. They all went to the way where it was younger. It was a younger crowd. Everybody went to the bars on the Alberta side. That's all I'm saying. And as you got older, slowly graduated to Esse's. That was the thing. Now you know how many bars we got, you know, and Lloyd, no Eszis, no cooler.

I think it was the buckle after that. I don't know. I don't know what kids do today, right? I'm like, there's no bar five. There's no bar five. What was the difference? Crime families? I mean, syndicates.

I mean governments. Okay, I think we need another. People are saying we need to show the map more often. So here it is. There you go. We're showing 30. What other sites got it at right? So the most up to date has 3113.

3113. We're showing 30 to 12 on the map. I'm sure that's going to populate again. But there you go. Green party has 1,221 votes so far, doing fairly well. um sass united party at 6.1 percent we were talking offline before we i think before we started yeah and i figured they're going to be somewhere around seven so you just saw you you pinned a comment there too that said uh yorkton a solid sp there uh can you guys provide an update for yorkton by

chance or not yorkton has nothing reporting nothing reporting but but nadine has inside baseball yeah inside of baseball because that's like uh like that was Greg Ottenbrate was done there. And so that's going to be a fresh MLA. That's kicking around there, right? Yeah, that's David Chan. So I talked about him and just explain. I had the pleasure of meeting him.

It would have been, it was before he even put his name forward. And he was saying that he was thinking about it. And I encouraged him to do it. And I don't know if you guys know the story of that nomination. I won't give too much details. but David's fairly new to the community. He works on a First Nation Reserve. He's, I guess, a counselor or psychologist, like a mental health counselor.

Not a psychologist, mental health counselor. He's, I can't remember which country is from originally. He's Asian, but his family came from communism. So he's very much against communism, Marxism. and stuff like that. So it's a part of its core values. But anyways, he, he won a nomination pretty much by a landslide, even though nobody saw him coming. So there was a lot of people that helped him win. And it was a very organized group of motivated people. So, so he's a new up-and-comer. He's, I think he's going to be really, really great for the SaaS party.

Like, we don't have the final numbers, but from what I saw, on the photos, it's looking pretty good for him to win. And I know there was worries because Saskia United had a candidate in that writing that was quite connected to the area, served on the Chamber of Commerce Board. I think he might have also been like a city council at one point, but I'm not 100%. Don't hold me to that. So I know there was a bit of worries that he was going to steal some of the conservative votes, but I don't think he's stealing many at all.

So I think that vote split kind of worry was one of the ones there that I think people, even though it's York and it's fairly conservative, I think that was one of the ones that the vote splitting narrative kind of affected people, scaring them away from voting Sask United. But anyways, we don't see the results yet. I just have some of them that were sent to me. Inside track. The big, it's just the map updated in front of us.

It's at 3221 right now. Also, somebody in the comments was asking about Mark Friesen. So he's running in Warman. And currently that's 144 votes SaaS party, 52 NDP, 10 SASC United, one green party and six Buffalo party. And Mark is running for the Buffalo Party. Three of 23 reporting. So still quite early, but he's off to a slow start. And where was that?

right. That's warm in. That's my writing. So that will be my MLA. Does that have Martinsville in it? No, no, it doesn't. They've got their own writing. No, Martinsville's another one. So it's kind of warm in. And then the road that's kind of near to where I live is like the cutoff. So that kind of gives away to where I live for the lefty loons that we want to know. But anyways, it's my writing. But that Saskia United had a candidate Andy early. So her family's like the early early. like farm supply store. So, so I was hoping to see a little bit bigger showing for her, but she just came in to the race, like not even two weeks ago. I mean, if you, if you want to be given a chance to win or get close to winning, you almost need to start like a year ago.

So, and that's the thing with Sask United, like a lot of their candidates didn't get announced till right when the writ was dropped or even after. You know, I got to give a show. So Lloyd Minster, I pulled it up. And Colleen Young, who's been here for, you know, she's a repeat winner. She's at 1,454 votes. Adam Trombly, Tremblay from the NDP 318, 316, and Joshua Bloom, who got announced, honestly, a couple weeks ago, 129. So if anyone was wondering where we're sitting at in, you know, my home riding of Lloyd Minster, that's where my family all is.

There's where it sits right now. The problem is for the NDP in the Lloyd writing is that you've got the vote splitting between them and the Greens, where Colleen's got 1,500 votes. Full disclosure, I do have one inside the track and I've got to give an endorsement to Michelle Krieger, a long time, a dear friend, and I know her heart very well. So she's in third place in the Cannington. Yeah, Cannington. Yeah, yeah. And the Sask parties kind of walking away with half the votes in so far. So that's much.

Well, more than that. There you go. 3,500, 3,500 SaaS party. And then the United Party and the Buffalo Party, your neck and neck in the 200s in the NDP. You know, when you pull that up on the map, I didn't realize that's where Michelle was from because she tunes into the mashup every Friday. Yeah. And I didn't realize that's where she was, you know, that's the southeast spot or as far as southeast as you can get in Saskatchewan.

I mean, and I didn't realize that's where it was. So by the way, I want to just point out real quick how accurate this map is. Lots of people don't realize it. But the east border of Saskatchewan isn't a straight line. it gets jagged and it starts hopscotch and over and over and over. And when you look at our map, it actually captures that. You know, so you're trying to give Brett a little bit of a tip of the hat after we got harassed about our BC map that had an entire place missing is what you're saying?

No, it didn't have an entire place missing. It just drew the border out. It did like this round blob that captured all the islands on the West Coast. And so it looked like there was just a giant land. Let's be clear. for four hours, the BC folk made fun of us. That's exactly what happened. But that was the map.

Like, I know. I'm just saying that's what happened. Yeah. But I mean, it wasn't our map. That was the elections BC map. I know. I know too, but when you get Albertans and Saskatchewan folk doing BC live election coverage,

they had to put your own. Racist. Yeah, they had to poke fun of something. They had to poke fun of something. So I want to do a few comments on a few, a few of the seats, if that's okay. So Jim, I'm glad to see Jim has one for, so I live near Langham.

So Jim Ryder was a new here. I'm going back. The one that's just next to Martinsville. So Rosetown Delis. So it used to be Randy Weeks, but he kind of went insane. I think he actually endorsed the NDP, which would have been a good fit for him, considering he, I always felt he used to. to be my, my MLA before the new division that kind of pushed them up.

Rosedown Delisle used to have Langham in it? Well, it, it did, Rose Town Delisle is a new riding. But that kind of area, which includes Langham now, it like Rose Town Delisle includes Langham now. So that used to be Randy Weeks area and it had a bigger and then, but now it's kind of been moved. But anyways, Jim, writer, there's, There's something actually funny about this.

I thought it was encapsulated the NDP. So Jim had a big sign in Langham, a big, like, I think eight by eight sign. And then in the middle of the night, some NDP people came and put little orange signs around him. They couldn't even do it in the daylight. They had to hide their shame for doing it. But they put orange signs all around his big sign. I've been wanting to take a picture. but I'm like, you can try to become the Sest party and become the government, but it'll never happen.

So, but anyway, so I'm glad he's winning. Yeah, just north of their roster in Shelbrook, which is the riding where I grew up. So there you go. I'll narrow it down a little bit. Best rink burgers in Saskatchewan are in my hometown. And that is Scott Moes. And believe it or not, he's winning. Yeah, well, there you go.

3,100 second place NDP at 1,300. And Cody Lockhart of the Sask United 573. I'm surprised the NDP has so many. They're leading in quite a bit. I'm surprised as well. In your neck of the woods there, Barbara, did you see a presence of NDP door knockers? No, I live on the farm north of South Carolina,

about 25 miles. I haven't seen a politician here. You know, our community where I live outside of is Stuart Valley, Saskatchewan. And we lost our school to a fire here about two years ago now. And we've been having quite the fight with the local school district here over building the new school. The public pressure that we've been trying to put on the school board and the government to have somebody look at this situation, made them come out and actually put foundation in the ground, poured concrete. And no politicians actually,

really been able to touch it. We did see our local, our MLA, Blaine, he came and addressed the situation, but nobody's gotten anywhere with this. We've been ignored by school divisions. We've been ignored by everybody. Here we

are with our children in the local community we're in right now. We're being bused about 30 kilometers away to two different communities into two different other school divisions. Are they just going up to Kyle or what? Success and Waldek are the two places where our kids are going to

the last couple years so it's pretty disheartening to know that the the the government and our school board is basically abandoned this community right now and see like this is stuff that puzzles me because like these are these are areas if if if indip candidates are are serious about about trying to make this happen like those are those are situations that they would want to capitalize on you know what i mean get out to these places where people are starting to get frustrated with their government and try and make some headway i was expecting i was expecting to see a large presence in Kelvinton-Wadini here from all opposition to the SaaS party. And I just didn't.

Well, what are the pain points there? Well, health care. I mean, obviously, just like everybody else. But, I mean, we've got a health facility rate in Foam Lake here. I mean, that we do most of the funding for the equipment that's inside that hospital through the community here, right? And my previous MLA, you would just always get a nothing-burger answer from them, right? We definitely have room to improve.

We definitely have room to improve. Well, congratulations. You can just hook up a record player and I can listen to that forever. Yeah. And if you've got room to improve, why don't you start? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, right? So I don't know. The writing we're in right now, the Lumsden Morris riding,

I don't believe Stewart Valley should actually be a part of. We're so far to the west of Lumsden Morris in our area. We should basically be a part. I would, you know, I don't like the candidate. current, to be honest with you for the Sass party, but we should almost be a part of that riding instead of being you know, Lumsden for crying at low. It's a long

distance. Yeah, that's I mean, that's basically that whole stretch of highway. It is, yeah. Like, I'd say there's one candidate in our riding that probably didn't have to make a lot of miles to guard of the boat of this riding.

And that candidate was at basically every public function that I could even think of. I'm talking fall suppers door knocking at farms i mean this guy put miles on uh to get out there in everybody's face and he didn't he probably didn't need to and he was the only one out of the four here that that as far as i'm concerned or anyone that i've talked to is concerned i actually try and i mean at the end of the day that's what's going to get your votes one of the things that i that i hear here you know in listening to this conversation on the

pain points and and things that should be being discussed is is the pattern that I'm seeing across the country where the disparity or the representation has become so urban-centric centered around the major urban centers that the disparity between the rural representation in the province is getting further and further apart. And unless you're in the major urban centers, that's where they seem to be, you know, taking the directives from that's where it seems to be winning and taking you know the seats of power and controlling that and it's getting further and further out of reach as the rural centers deplete get depleted people are you know moving into the urban centers and those are you know heavily

influenced and manipulated when you add in the 42 percent increase in public service sector employees that are all employed by the government in the urban centers primarily. And then the union influence, this pretty much shouldn't be anything but expected. I hate to say it. And I can only see this gap growing wider. So the fact that if you can maintain, at least at this point, a party that you can remotely work with or influence is going to be far better than getting a centralized pseudo-party. like the NDP to control anything under Jagmeet Singh.

So it's a matter of today's, today's about the battlefront is today, you know, how much ground do you lose? How much do you gain and where do you go from here? The John Q Public, I think, has come exponentially farther over the last two years than they ever were pre-convoy, pre-2020 anyway. So if that makes sense, that people are, you know, people are. are becoming aware of this and it's important. I was just going to put in there that out of the federal politicians that showed their face during convoy,

I have to give credit where credits do. Belgone was the first place that we stopped for sleep when my part of the journey was. And one of the first people that I met was Andrew Shear, Kim walking across the parking lot at the Flying J truck stop in Belgoni to shake my hand and say he supports us. So that's never been recognized. Nobody's ever been able to say that a lot of the politicians hid during that time. But I, Andrew was there. And I don't think he's ever gotten recognition for that.

Speaking of Fed's, uh, Tuesday, I'm going to put this one on you. I don't know if you would have seen it or not, but Catherine McKinnick came out and endorsed, endorsed the, uh, endorsed the head of NDP there, uh, taking a shot across the bow at Scott Moe. Um, and like, I'm sure everyone here is aware of the history, but Scott Moe was Mr. environment at the time when the carbon tax was introduced and they were actually in a room meeting in Ottawa when Trudeau went public carbon tax and McKinnon just wheeled a TV in where everybody was there and they had to watch Trudeau announced us. They were supposed to be there

for negotiations. What were your thoughts on that tweet from McKinna? Well, I mean, it's interesting because she's largely irrelevant, right? And so, you know, she's jumping in a little bit here in there. I didn't see her tweet anything about the BC election, but I didn't go back and double check afterwards either. But, you know, her and granted she hasn't had comments on any of her Twitter posts in years

probably. But, you know, she endorses them and talking about how good the NDP are going to be for the environment. And I was touching on this before, she's absolutely right. The best thing for the environment would be for the NDP to win, because everybody would move the fuck away

and Saskatchew would just go back to nature. So, yeah, in one sense, she's absolutely right. The other interesting thing about the NDP party, I don't know if you caught this when we were talking about it before, but they're listed on the ballots as New Democratic Party Sask section. Yeah, absolutely. So I thought the interesting thing back, just back to McKenna for a second was she referenced the carbon tax in that tweet. And like, was she aware that the NDP support on the carbon tax. It's a sketching.

It was the only one that caught that or what? Like, I don't know. Yeah, you're absolutely right. The NDP, if you go into their platforms, they are, well, I mean, apparently to their credit, it's getting them some votes, but they are now against the federal carbon tax as well. No party that supports the federal carbon tax will survive a Saskatchewan election. It's no stop. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. But just on that point, right, does she not realize what the NDP? Well, no. No, she's not a smart person. But this is why- She's never been a smart person. She talked about puffins and penguins. I mean, there was like, it's just, it's brilliant, though, because, um, jag meat actually is

ultimately the end of the day, the controller of the NDP party. So if he wants to separate himself from the liberals and survive, then he's going to have to flip-flop or agree to the. carbon tax or say no, it's okay for Saskatchewan to say no if he wants to gain ground in the West. So Jagmeen has got some tough decisions to make when it comes federally. And the winds of political change are right now when any of them are actually even paying attention. So I think there's a lot more eyes on how they respond here in the West than people might realize. Well, the NDP federally controlling the local provincial

parties or the branches of their parties, I guess, would be more correct, according to elections, Saskatchewan, doesn't get nearly enough coverage. And it's funny because when it gets pointed out, it's, oh, it's a conspiracy theory and everything. I'm an Alberta boy, right? Yeah. One of the reasons I like having, you know, me and two is when we're putting together these live streams, you know, it's like, well, you could have, you know, I got all the time

in the world for Chris Sims, right? But does you live in Saskatchewan? Oh, right? You know, and you go on and on and on and on. You can have all these wonderful people come on and comment about Saskatchewan. But if they actually don't live there, it's, it's kind of, you know, you can miss little nuances in what's actually going on. That's why on this show, you know, Wayne, you're a little bit of the exception to the rule. I mean, you got you got kicked out of Saskatchewan, but so did I.

So, but I mean, but one of the way, one of the reasons, you know, we, you know, because we were talking with Clyde do something at the end and, and, and the amazing Zoltan at the end of our BC live election coverage. And they were saying how much fun they had. And I said, oh, yeah, we got next one coming up. And the next logical thing probably would have been like, hey, do you want to join in? And I said, and you're not invited. Yeah, I, that's pretty much what I said. I mean, no offense. I'm just like, I want people. We want people who live in the province. Because. to sit there and act like you can comment on what's going on in somebody else's province, let alone somebody's country, etc., etc. You're being a hypocrite, but continue. I don't comment that much. I let all of these wonderful people do the commenting, and I'm surprised Nadine hasn't cut me off yet.

Say, hey, can we go back to the map? But regardless, that's the thought process on trying to have people from a robot. Going back to the map, how come I never got to throw down my prediction before we got too far here? Because we got side-track. QDM. What would you like for your prediction?

I was, I was, it's, I actually, it's on Kristen Ratworth's feed on, on Twitter, so it's stamped, time stamp. But I was 32 Saskatcham Party, 28 NDP, and I had one listed for SEP. That's not looking like it's going to happen. No, it isn't. There you go. Right now, 33 Sask Party, uh, 24 NDP. You know, just to bring everybody up to speak, because I want to, I want to make sure. that I'm not here. Let's let's see. And the places that haven't reported yet,

you've got one in Saskatoon and two in Regina. And I'm going to tell you what color they're going to be. Well, that's exactly it. That's exactly where I was going with that is they haven't reported yet. But those aren't going to be ones that the SaaS parties probably having any hope of claiming. Okay. If I can real fast, I'm just going to rattle off. Garm-

was the the still can't hear you Nadine. Gormley was the first to make a prediction. He said 3823. How's that looking? Not great. Like that, that, uh, the South PA one might flip. Um, but other than that, I think it's pretty

locked in the way it is. 33. So, yeah, there's, well, right now we got four to be determined. So you're saying 33.28. Where's the fourth one? I only see three. Oh. Oh, it's just itty-bitty. Okay, so 34-27?

So who's closest to that? Is anyone close to that? Two's had 32-29. That was a little prediction. Oh, closest to closest without going over. I wouldn't buy a price of right rules. 3625, that was Gage, Taxpayers' Federation. Lee Hardy, 3823.

Hey, I just want to throw out there. That chat with Lee was, uh, was. was really good. He had some... Yes. He had some good answers. Well, one of that, yeah. Lee is a sharp. Sharp, you know, like... You never know who's watching you on social media.

I sometimes use Snapchat as one of my personal throwout, whatever I can. And then I've realized Lee actually follows me on Snapchat. You know what I do with my Snapchat, Barbara? I call it the dirty McDick. That's where I'm like, I just say whatever I want. I've had to hold that down a little bit. I was watching some of my videos a little while ago, and I went, holy potty mouth, Chris.

I want to say it, but I just, I can't. You can do it, I believe in you. Wow. I'm definitely capable of it. Do you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, we're just ignoring you now, Nadine. So Silver Spring, which is,

Silver Spring, which is the relatively new community on the east side of town. well actually no it looks like it's got it looks like there's a couple there it looks like Sutherland maybe as well okay Willow Grove and Silver Spring that's where University kids stay when they move into town to go to universities

you're probably going to see a fairly large rural vote over there I mean Lawson didn't work out so well there in Aideen that's not looking so good but Willow Grove is within one vote and Silver Spring is 618 to 537 So four of 10 and three of 12. So still lots of votes to count. You know who worked really hard in Saskatoon was Ken Shevoldeoff?

Because I went. A GM of the Winnipeg Jet? No. The former news guy from the 80s. The Saskatoon Willow Grove one. They're really close their neck to neck. Sorry, I'm just ignoring the jokes. But was he a former?

hockey player? Well, Trish Shevolde off and Ken Sheveleday off. I can't remember what Trish's maiden name was, but they were on the news together and then the next thing you know, she took his name. I remember because we were close enough that we'd get Saskatoon,

we'd get the odd Saskatoon station. I think it was on CFQC. He, if I remember. Is that a star right, fair? I don't know. You know, you know you're getting into like hour five of a roundtable? or people just shut off for a couple seconds.

You're like staring off into the abyss. Yeah, nobody's, nobody's listening. But yeah, yeah, we even got STV every once in a while. And if anybody is an avid fan of the Great Spelling Bee, you would have seen me on a couple episodes.

You were on an episode of the Great Spelling Bee? Yeah, with Stan Kupichick, you betcha. Okay. So, so back to the election. So another good one,

another good one to, Because I'm thinking if I was watching this, I would want to know what's happening. To the thousands and thousands of people watching this, do you want more shenanigans or do you want the map? Just comment away. I feel like you guys probably want to hear about Stan Kubichick and the Great Spelling Bee. We beat Mortonsville once.

And yeah, Trisha is his wife, his brother is general manager of the Jets. There you go. Pull up that comment. There it is. There you go. I think I got that right, right? Trisha's his wife, Ken's brother,

he's a general, all right, I just threw that out there being a smart ass. So, who knew it was the same family? Work hard. Because I were really worried. Sorry.

222, you were my neighbor? Maybe. I don't know. The NPP are doing a lot better than I expected, just about half of the votes for, you know, they're 50% behind the SaaS party, but still, that's a, that's a fairly big number for stuff current.

Well, In terms of the popular... You got Swift Current either, to be honest, yeah. In terms of the popular vote, they are way behind, though. You got almost $120,000 for SaaS Party and just over $71,000 for the NDP. Total votes. Swift Current's been called, so that's good. It looks like Moose Jaw is going SaaS Party.

Yeah, it's kind of... Which is interesting. They... I don't think if Moose Jaw goes SaaS Party, like, to be honest, it's... pretty much over. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think we're going to see any big upsets in Saskatoon or Regina here at all.

Moose John North, you've got 2,000 votes for SaaS Party and just over 1,000 for NDP. Yeah, that's kind of a call. And that's 5 of 11. Megan Patterson is so funny. They have the same last name. Megan has 617 and Melissa has 475 with 4 out of 12 polls in. that's going to be close uh what's canora pelly do you what's canora pellet doing what's canora

telly do it oh that's already called i think it's it called oh it's a blowout it's a sat sass party blowout yeah so uh john wilson won that nomination and this yeah first time running by landslide didn't he have like a whole bunch of people show up for the nomination too like they had like a thousand people it was it was like he turned up with Sean's quite a prominent guy in that neck of the woods there. That's actually been in construction and a lot of different things. I think there's a, we're going to see a few SaaS party MLAs.

There's a big MLA turn over there as far as I'm concerned this year. And I think that's probably going to be a healthy thing for that party to get some new voices in there. Jamie Martins in Martinsville is one of them. Quick, Dick, when you say he had a thousand, or maybe both you and Nadine, he had a thousand people show up to what? Can you explain that? For the nomination. Do you know what that is, Sean?

I think, I think so, right? Like you're talking like the Stass Party nomination, like that, that vote, right? Yeah. Yeah, your listeners might not know what that means. This is why we're doing town halls throughout the whole province. A lot of people complain, oh, we don't like our elected officials. Well, you can actually challenge them in the nomination. What that means is before there's an election, a candidate,

it who's either currently elected will say, I'm interested in running again or they will step down. So I think in Saskatchewan, SAS Party had 21 saying they weren't running again. But there were some that were challenged that said, I'm going to run again. And then someone ran against them. So anybody can put their name forward and run against them. So Randy Weeks is a classic case of someone ran again, even though he wanted to stay. And Randy lost.

and I think Jim Ryder was the one that won. So a nomination election is an election that happens usually about a year before, sometimes a little bit closer to an election where the people who own party membership gets to vote who the candidate is going to be. Now, if you have, let's say, 500 people in your community that will vote for you, you can likely change your MLA. That's how little people show up. In the U.S., though, it's very different.

call it the primaries. 44% of the population show up. In Canada, we have less than 1%. It's 0.01 that show up. Like so... If you remember, Sean, when I did that Harrison is looking weeks video on the whole Weeks Harrison thing there, whatever, and when Scott Moe made his sour grapes comment there,

he said it was sour grapes because he had actually lost his nomination with South Party. That's where that whole comment came from, right? And I, for somebody who was the speaker, right? Yes. Yeah. He was my old MLA and probably one of the, he's probably going to hate that I'm saying this, but probably one of the more useful, useless, useless MLA there is.

But. If he never had the chance to go listen to Nadine speak when she does the town halls with Unified Grassroads, I encourage everybody to go listen to what she has to say. We, we drove over to leader and we listened to Nadine speak. It makes a lot of sense about getting involved with your local party. and it's so easy to change things if you're involved. People don't even understand. And that's why I take back,

and I'm going to compare it a bit to take back Alberta, but it's not even close to the same. I'm glad you pulled up with that. Well, it's not completely the same because you don't hear us talk about it very much. But what it is, when COVID happened, a lot of the people, the freedom type people, the people kind of upset about it, pulled back. And then it left the party with like nobody like us, unfortunately.

And then so when things were being moved, pressure was being put, it was being put in one direction. And mind you, like I said, Sask United was very effective in the sense that it did influence the SAS party to go a bit more right because they were afraid of. losing their voter base, which I think it was an accurate fear at the time. You can see by the by-election versus now. But the problem we're having, if Sask United, if the general public is not ready to elect a new party, which obviously tonight, they are not, whether we face that reality or not, we looked into, okay, well, how do we make sure the party doesn't go full left and follow a lot of the kind of more left extreme policy because the left has gone so insane now.

It's just kind of pressuring us to go a little bit more left, even if we're right leaning. So we looked into, well, how do we influence change? And there's certain places in our democratic process that are very easy. One of them is nomination election. And unfortunately, we got this information really late as an organization. Had I known this during COVID, we would have done this from the get-go. But we didn't know about it until we sat down and looked at the election laws, at the SAS party policies, the constitution were like, well, okay, well, how do we make sure it doesn't go sideways?

Or if COVID came back, how do we make sure what happened doesn't happen again? And we realize there are places where you don't need a lot of people. to get involved. And nomination elections are it. We got involved with a few of them and our people with our values won every single one of them. And now they're going to be SAS party MLAs because it's in writings that's more likely to be SAS parties. So we could have just put all our eggs in the basket of SAS United, but then you would have no one with our values in government. So it was a huge success. and then you talk about like the AGM in Alberta, you guys mentioned that.

There's how many people, 6,000 people going to that age? Close to 6,000, yeah. Yeah, and look at what happened even last HGM. You had thousands and thousands of people more than ever showed up and they had a wish list of what they wanted to accomplish. And even though some are complaining that Daniel Smith didn't do all of them, she did a big chunk of that wish list.

And I only wish SAS Party were to implement some of those changes as well, which I guess that's going to be up to the next AGM. I think bottom line here, Nadine, like, there was another I commenting earlier telling Tuse that you had to win, C.R. Tony. He's together that's very, very involved in his community. And not just the guy that stands by, and C.R. Tony, I'm not trying to pump your tires here, anything your head's too big to fit your hat already anyway he's a beauty anyway pump his tires but uh i usually chat with him quite a bit but but like what nadine is saying and what everyone's saying here is right like we can complain a lot about everything that we're doing or or you can

get involved this doesn't have to be provincial politics this can be federal politics this can be municipal politics this can be break down to getting on a board that's in your small town if you know if you want change we need to be able to make yourself available and make the time to go help change happen. Otherwise, and Sean, you and I have had this conversation at length. I think even on your on your podcast is, you know, we need to make time to do this kind of stuff because if we just sit idly by and just let these things continue to happen saying we're too busy and I'm one of the most guilty guys of it, I'm too busy with my head

under the combine fixing it. Before you know it, you have somebody that had all the time in the world that took the time to go and get themselves into a spot that's just going to steamroll you while your head is underneath the combine with policies that are just. going negatively affect you, right? So why don't you just quit breaking your combine? Because it's a you bastard tractor. Just one and they don't know how to not.

Honestly, just do an extra pass with the rock picker. Okay. Here, I want to point something out here real quick. Maybe someone can explain this to me like I'm five. So here at the very top, you've got total votes counted, 254,000. Mail and ballots counted zero percent, zero. mail ballots issued 32,476 pending count 20,417.

Where's the other 12,000? What am I reading? I don't get that, but like that, like just with looking at it, there's a good chance that that would have been the number that they actually received possibly by the 20,000. Okay. Yeah, that would make sense. But don't quote me on that.

I'm just guessing right now, right? That would make sense. Yep. And I'm sure everybody mailed them in Canada. opposed never would have fucked something up. 3427 right now. So is that confirmed? How many are confirmed?

Can we call the election yet? Has anyone called the election yet? Is a better question? Well, the dark green. Whether we call it or not. The dark green means it's a solid SaaS party. The light green means it could flip. dark orange means it's solid NDP

Has Oh do you not see the different colors? You don't I see a different map Well why don't you go off our map Because it's the best map Stop it Nadine stop going other maps okay Well I'll send it to your guy This one has more

Yeah Carlton No we're using our map Nadine It's the best map it's the only map Get out of here with your fake news okay but like PA PA is tight and and only basically half of them 5 of 10 and 14 how tight is PA 1725 to 1391 and 1324 to 1295 like their neck and neck this is totally one of those your vote matters situations right so there's two right there the 1725 and 1390 that's

less close, but the other one, Elena Ross, yeah. Yorkton started coming in. Nadine, 26 to 4 have closed. So we were wondering about how polls of which ones have been called.

26 in favor of the SAS party, four in favor of the NDP have been called. I mean, obviously the number for the NDP is going to grow. We're obviously seeing that in lots of different spots. But right now you're asking, of the 61, 30 of them have been called. So we're only halfway there. Okay.

Yeah. We need 31 for SAS party. Like to be, to be, yeah. We need five more. Pour yourself another tea and quick dick, grab yourself one more, whatever you got. And I'll grab another Bohemian because we got a couple more minutes there. It looks like before we can call this sucker. from being

You don't got to tell me twice. I'll go grow. I'm going to go grab more tea as well. Being map colorblind, it kind of feels like Saskatchewan's going to end up a whole lot of status quo at the end of the day. Yeah, I mean,

we've got to apologize to all the colorblind folks out there. They're just, so they're just looking at it and seeing that the gray party is sweeping Saskatchewan. it's funny though Wayne when you say it like so 2016 election 51 10 yeah 20 20 20 40 13 and where we sit right now well I mean this is showing 35 26 yeah the NDP has made a huge stride or the SaaS party has taken a giant step back if I can throw a little bit of salt onto the wound that I think Nainin opened there you know people across the country have had this ability to challenge incumbents.

This is not new. And if we did more of that, we would probably be paying a whole lot fewer pensions. But then you run into like what happened with, with Calgary Signal Hill, Wyatt Claypool. So it wasn't challenging an incumbent, the incumbent Ron Leepert. I used to live in that writing. So I can tell you firsthand that he was a complete just you could have hired a rock. and paid the rock that wage,

and you would have been better off because at least you wouldn't have to pay it a pension. If you were to worse off. I have got a whole bunch that you can start paying. Well, you know what? If you picked a few of them, you wouldn't have to fix your combine all the time. Maybe I picked them with the combine.

Yeah, well, I mean, that's one way to do it, right? If you're going to make a rock drop, come on. So, anyway, he got the federal party, the federal conservative party, kicked him out of the nomination process. They said, no, you're not allowed to run, regardless of what the local people think. And that's one of the issues you run into with this is that, you know, saying, I'm going to represent the people in my riding isn't exactly what the people in Ottawa want to hear. And it's probably not always what the people in Regina want to hear.

Yeah, I think that was one of the things I was, I was going to ask Nadine about there, too, about that, about the Yorton nomination. because I know Caitlin Kitsan and a few others were running. I thought she would have been a really great representative there as well. But I think it wound up being you have to sell X amount of party memberships, blah, blah, blah, kind of thing to be able to fundraise and then eventually just go to a vote. And I'm pretty sure that he was endorsed quite heavily by Greg Audenbrate. And Greg's a good dude. I'm personal friends with Craig

and we've done some fundraisers and stuff together. I just remember there being a couple of things that were a little bit questionable about what had gone on over there. I just, I remember, maybe it was just my personal bias. I just thought Caitlin was a fantastic rep for free market. I don't know about that, but I can say

that Saskatoon Silver Spring 7 out of 10 stations reporting and they're a dead tie at 2465 apiece. And there's going to be, right, like in this specific election like maybe it will but maybe it won't but i mean there's been some really good uh examples in the last little while of of your vote matters you know and i get so frustrated when i see people being like

well my vote doesn't matter or there's no one i want to vote for on the on the ballot kind of thing well go go go go make a vote like it you got to pick one out of four and pick the one that you feel is going to represent you best or that's the least of all evils kind of thing uh like everyone's vote matters, man, whether you think it does or not. I think it's a very important part of being a democracy, right, is to go vote. Vote and vote educated. It's not just

go out and throw out your vote. It's actually know what it is that you're voting for and then go for it. Other interesting thing, Regina Lakeview, which is Carla Beck's riding. Only one of ten reporting so far, but she's up 679 to 351.

now melee not the good Malay from Argentina but the other Malay from Regina Tina

he won by a nose in the last election and he You're talking Miley? Yeah yeah

okay yeah he won by a nose in the last provincial election but the two leaders before him lost their seats

so the NDP is actually starting to pull ahead further in terms of even letting their leaders win the elections. Hey, you know what? I'm going to say, I think Carla did a great job of running this election.

I think when you look back in the history of the NDP for the last couple of elections in Saskatchewan, I think Carla Beck did a great job of running this campaign. I've said this before. I don't think she's the best public speaker. I saw her live at a couple of events. but when you get one-on-one with her in a crowd, she's very personable and talks to you with empathy and will,

she can emote with you kind of thing. And I think that's, you know, that's something that Scott Moe doesn't have. Scott Moe seems like a chubby robot. He said, have you, whatever,

I don't know, have you seen, have you seen the S&L skit with Will Farrell when he's like the guy talking about it? have no control of their voice whatsoever. I feel like that's what Scott Moak out of his most of the time. It's true when he speaks. Like it's like it's very monotone.

It's like force. It's not authentic. Yeah. I just want to point out, Zach Schmidt had mentioned, you know, talking about voting. He said that,

you know, basically your, you're spoiled ballot. You're, I'm exercising my right to vote, but I don't support any of these parts. parties, it doesn't get nearly enough recognition. And it really ought to.

And so if you go through here, the rejected ballots on the right hand side are people who showed up and checked every single box on the ballot, which is their way of saying, I'm here to vote. I want to have my vote counted, but not towards any of the parties. And it's a damn shame that there's only a handful in each one. And I feel like, I feel like if more people knew about this, your voter turnout would be higher because it wouldn't just be like, oh, yeah, there isn't a party that doesn't represent me. I'm going to stay home. They would say, I'm exercising my right to vote.

There's some interesting people in that category right there. Oh, probably. No to check all the button. And that's going to get a rejected ballot and actually show up. I didn't know that. Yeah, the very well might be. But like, just to finish off what I was saying there, like I, I've watched Saskatchewan elections. I was home for the last couple.

This is by far the best campaign that the NDP has ran. Like by far. They stepped up their social media game. Their messaging was better. I think if Carla had a little bit more practice than debates, she could have done better in the debate too. There was people saying right away with the provincial debate that, oh, if you know, Carla wanted hands down and Scott wanted hands down,

I thought the provincial debate was garbage. I don't think they debated each other. very much at all. It was a snooze fast. Yeah. But like all together, no matter how this ends, good job to the NDP for for like stepping up their game because they absolutely did in this campaign. I don't think it's not.

Did they or did the SaaS party just start shit in the bed? No, they up their game. Their marketing and their communications and videos were phenomenal. It was like high quality. I don't know if you guys saw the video. of Carla Beck where she's like in a baseball outfit. I've looked at it and I liked it. And I was like,

that's phenomenal. Did I just like an NDB video? I guess I did, you know? I had this name. Go ahead. Well, this is what I was talking about with hiring Quick Dick and twos. And this is what I mean is they should look at what's working and not go try and buy who Quick Dick is just in the sense of like,

you're explaining what I mean in a way better way, I might add, is that like, look, they're doing things that even people who don't agree with them are like, damn, that was good though. That was good, right? Like, I mean, think about that. I don't know. I haven't heard a positive remark all night long about the SaaS parties game on that side, or any of the other ones on that side of the coin or any other, only the NDP. How is that possible?

Because they don't put money into it. They don't prioritize it. Well, they get lazy. And so this is, I guess, really what is the best case scenario for Saskatchewan people of Saskatchewan is if the NDP up to their game to force the Saskatchewan party to do a damn site better if they want to remain in, you know, in control, that's the best case scenario. That's exactly where I was headed at that point when, but absolutely bang on. And not just that during the election. They failed at doing this when they were in government. They've implemented quite a lot of things in government that nobody knows about because

the media is not sharing it. Like the raises for doctors, how many of you knew that doctors got a huge raise in in Saskatchewan? Like my husband, who's a doctor, is making so much more. more than what he used to be. And some of the doctors, it's almost doubled their rate. But who knew that? Well, Nadine's buying everybody the Chi-T tonight.

Well, he's not one of the ones that it's doubled. But some of them, it has. But nobody knows about it because they don't have a communications team. And that's why they failed miserably in garnering public opinion. And they had to just do what the mob asked during COVID. because they had no way of reaching the people to kind of let them know. And so that's on their end. That's something they're going to have to work on this next four years before the next election.

Or they're going to lose way more ground because NDP is not going to get worse at it. They're just going to get better at it. Better at it. In my opinion, that's a good thing. It's like that's what makes a healthy democracy and a healthy government. is very strong opposition. Because you have to navigate it. And like, I don't mean to keep taking things better,

but look federally right now. I mean, the conservatives are running a way, way better media game than the liberals are right now. I mean, they're just getting trounced. And like, it's showing. And now it's starting to show, and now you're seeing all these holes are just being completely poked and exposed in this government.

And like the liberals just can't get their head above. water, right? But like, you, you want the government in power to have pressure on them at all times, whether it's public opinion from their supporters or strong opposition in Ledge, right? That's what makes healthy democracy, and it's what makes healthy policies come out of the government. I think the SaaS party, and we're seeing it in the election here tonight, like, it's a party that's getting kind of tired. Like, like, the Bradwall gas that's been on this party for a long time, that that tank's starting to run out. You know what I mean? There's a lot of voters that have probably

come into the province in the last little while that don't really know who Bradwall is or was or what the Sass party used to be. And they just get a snapshot of what it is right now. And I personally believe that this is not the Sass party that Bradwell created to Ritz of the NDP last time. And if they don't get this car up on a set of jacks and do some fine tuning under the hood, it's going to have to go to the junkyard, you know. So what do you guys think would be the changes that they would implement after looking at what's basically going to be a very close race, assuming they win the SaaS party, what do you think they would do in terms of changes, either optimistically or cynically looking at it?

The good leadership. Yeah, I think that'll be the biggest one. And I fully predict that happening in the next year. The question's going to be who's going to be stepping up and be the next. wall because that's what they're going to need if we want the NDP to stop gaining momentum. So that's where I'm, I just keep praying someone great will step up like a Daniel Smith that we can kind of get behind. Or maybe even somebody better.

Is there anyone that you guys are one of those? Oh, one of those. I'm not one of anything. You know, when you talk Daniel Smith, Daniel Smith's been on the show. I got a lot of praise for her. But I also think Daniel Smith is just like every other politician. You're constantly being, you know, Daniel Smith.

Sheila Gunnreed from Rebel News said it best to me. She's being constantly pulled left by all the world. You have to pull her back right. Otherwise, we're going to have more slippage to the left. True. And so you look at it, it's like, oh, you're one of those. It's like, no, I'm just like, I'm tired of things going the way they are. which means as soon as you're elected,

you realize the entire world is trying to force you into just take your handpick of all the things going wrong with our country right now. Whether it's capping oil and gas, whether it's the fact we got a carbon tax, whether it's we got made, whether it's we got free drugs going on. Don't get me started on boys being girls. I don't want to go there.

And the list just goes on and on. And so to me, one of the things that we sit on this side is I got a lot of time for Daniel Smith. too much time and I get harassed about that. By me. Yes, I do. But at the same time, you know, how many people are sitting here doing shows like this

that are trying to pull things just a smidge bit right? I get called far right all the time. Are you kidding me? Like, I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing in the world. And yet, that's what happens. And you get labeled and, sorry, Nadine hit a pressure point on me. Is it like, you know, you're one of those.

It's like, oh, just, A guy that wants to see things slide just slightly to the right. Can we just pull things back to the moment? I'm the most politically neutral person I know. And I just want her to quit spending money on everything all the time. What did you just say? What one of those means is the second a politician, and I'm not saying necessarily you are,

but the second a politician doesn't do everything as fast as we'd like. we just throw them out or we start a new party or or or the next person that replaces her might be worse and and from looking at her from Saskatchewan she's implemented so many of the things we I could only dream of happening in Saskatchewan and I'm like please don't get rid of her let her keep going she's pushing through she's going in the right direction maybe not as fast as we would like but but she is pushing ahead where no one else is in Canada. If they can turn things around on a dime when their political futures on the line, how about they can turn things around on a dime when it makes sense? Or at least on a quarter or a toene. Can we hold on to this just for a second?

I think this is really interesting. But Brett was just saying which two flipped? Let's pull it up. We're up to 3427 now. I just want, you know, I'm trying to gauge everybody on the live stream's reaction. The South PA one flip. All right. I'm doing Nadine's job now.

Nadine, I need you here. Regardless, I'm teasing. You guys were going after my girl. So 34-20-37 is where it sits right now. She's 5.3. Oh, my God. Okay. So nobody heard the first time.

Actually, you know, you raise an interesting point, Nadine. All I would say is is the pace. So, okay, you go, it's not happening as fast as people want. I don't know. It's not happening at all. So, no, no. I'd love to hear of way not to say that he really wants to jump in here. Sure.

I really do because we live in the society of instant gratification right now where the instant you think about something or say it, there's a fulfillment opportunity. It just slides across your phone right here right now. And, you know, when Daniel Smith replaced that gremlin before her, it was done on a dime. And we all threw our support behind her in Alberta to make that happen unequivocally. and they get our support when they get into office. But then once they're in office, then they don't get any support either. Then they get expectation from the people get it done. And these, in order to do that, you know, they're clawing uphill to try and take us back to the right.

But we just expect them to get it done. Now they got the opportunity. Now just get it done. And we kind of go back to our, you know, we've done our five minutes. every four years of responsibility. Now we can go, yeah, oh, yeah, I voted for them. But now she's not getting it done. Well, where are these people after the election to make sure that she has the support

rather than just a vitriol to get it done? And this happens across the board, you know. Well, because there's no recall legislation, or at least none with teeth. Just manage open recall legislation. Let's we as the public take a bit. of accountability too because it's not moving as fast as we want. And just this is a really important point that I just kind of realized today, the Overton window.

I don't know if you guys know what that means. So you have politicians that will only work within the Overton window. And I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly. So you have the left and the right and you have the extremes where that'll never happen. Maybe we should start doing it. This is reasonable. And there's a window in there. Now, politicians is very rare that they can move that window, but you and me and people who have public voices can.

Our job is to sway public opinion in the right direction. Now, where we fail in Canada is we don't have a lot of conservative voices to do that. You have think tanks, which are really good for doing that, but you don't have a whole bunch of conservative voices. You have you guys, SMP 2-2-2-2s, you have Quick Dick-McDick. But when you think we have Jordan Peterson, when you think about how many conservative voices do we have swaying public opinion in Canada, it's not like it is in the U.S. So if we want the politicians to do what it is we're asking, we need the public to also start pushing towards swaying that over-tint window into the right direction. And a classic case of that would be the wheatboard. I always bring it back to that because it was a classic lesson I learned from my father-in-law.

And sorry, quick-dick, my dick. I don't know which side of the fence you were on that, but I'm pro. Just waiting to hear where you're going with this. So my father-in-law was one of the 13 farmers jailed over the wheatboard. So they really felt strongly that they should be able to sell their grain to whoever they wanted to. And when they first did this, the public opinion wasn't in their,

in their backyard. Like, in fact, everyone wanted the wheat board. And then they worked diligently. They created a news organization. They created all these groups that did a bunch of town halls to say how good this was. They also did, like a display of public,

not disobedience, but whatever. They went across the border. Civil disobedience. It went across the border, brought a pail of wheat or whatever it was, maybe oats, I don't know. And then they got arrested coming back. And then the media started talking about these farmers who kind of stood their ground. And what it did, what used to be far out their thought, far out their policy, actually the public opinion sues so much that they actually influence change.

And the wheat board was abolished. however that happened and some people have issues with how that happened I understand that too but but the fact of the matter is it was the general public that's way that it wasn't one elected official so and same thing with the convoy you saw that in the convoy that before the convoy happened you had a whole lot of people that were sitting at home thinking that their own ideas and thoughts weren't acceptable and then you had the convoy make this big big display

and then the elected officials when they started seeing how many trucks were coming across, like Scott Moe made the announcement of overturning the passport. The weekend, the convoy arrived in Ottawa and the one in Regina. And so I want to take some responsibility us who's doing this. Like, why aren't we doing shows like this where we talk about the issues where we can bring up, well, you guys are. But I mean, we should do it with all the influential voices coming together. like once a month and just talk about all the crap that's happening.

I know a guy who maybe could do that. You know, I know a guy. There's a key point. I think you should. There's a key point in that, maybe on that Overton window, that used to be the role that the free and independent press used to do. So we had the ability to trust that.

Once that was shattered and the guys, the gaslighting and the propaganda and the censorship because it's symbiotic. One doesn't work without the other. You have to have censorship and propaganda. So once that was shattered, that illusion was shattered, Canadians were basically tossed into the cyclone of not knowing how to respond equally and not knowing what to trust. So this has created this wild, wild west of anything goes in the process.

How many of them are walked in? We know. And then, you know, now we're getting to a point where we have the ability to influence that, that Overton window now. And this is, is the biggest strength. 29 for the SAS. 13 for the. That's a, that's a good point when actually, I've known who's run away on me there.

But it's funny that you were talking about the wheatboard and ADN. And just like, I just really want to talk about the dairy cartel and how it's essentially the weed board. No, it is. It is. It is. It really is. I could say it publicly because I don't give a shit.

I know people that have a milk cow and I can just drink contraband. So it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Unpastured milk. Did you know there's an underground market for cheese? People will go into farming and dairy with... It's true, man. And eggs.

Cheese. Yeah. Why can't we grow our own food? Why are their government limits? Like, it's, It's the classic case. It says it's five times a carbon footprint if you grow your own garden. That's why.

So the environment cartel or the dairy cartel or the grain cartel where one of the competing cartels will come in, try and stamp a boot on your throat. And you'll say, wait a minute, you can't do that. That's illegal or unlawful. The charter says so. But the guy with the boot really doesn't care. He's got you by the throat. This is a really good opportunity for me to talk about a meeting that I had with one of the the candidates, excuse me, here in our writing for the Green Party.

And there was a lot of policies that existed within the Green Party platform that I surprisingly agreed with. And one of them was food co-ops and trying to get stuff back local again. And obviously other, and this goes back away. Sean, when you guys were on talking with Chase Barber and we were talking about the Green Party not having a party whip and how they actually had the ability to vote. with the writing's best intentions and not with their party kind of thing. There's a whole bunch within that platform that I was like,

this is all fantastic ideas. But like there was a lot within that platform that I completely disagree with too. You know what I mean? And just one outweigh the other. The local food would be a huge one or decentralizing things a bit. But yeah, don't get me talking about the day cow. Me and two's on a big. BC live election may have been sponsored by

dairy farm and we may have direct milk live on television and I just want to say my full support for the dairy cartel please do not put a bag over my head. You chicken shit. I don't want to go out that way. I'll go out a million different ways via Trudeau but the dairy cartels No I'm kidding. Scott Moe. Isn't it Scott Moore or someone like big in election won because the dairy

association, whatever you call it? The dairy cartel back them up? It wouldn't be Scott Ball. It would not be Sasanil. They're that big, no. No, I think it was Andrew Shear when he won the nomination. You know, that could be possible. That could be.

That was Maxine Bernier's fight when he left the conservative party. Oh. That's where I heard it. I would just like to point out he's going to come back on screen. We've been going for five hours. And that man has put back more Red Bulls and everything else in his sister. someone. And he finally took his first pee, I think. Is your

pee supposed to be bright green? I mean, I'm like, I am I don't even know what to say. Hey, Barbara, what do you think? With a bladder like that, he might be able to be a trucker someday, eh? Yeah. Well, I mean, I've had a class one for 20 years. Okay, let's get back to the results.

What are we seeing? Well, it's 3427. That's where it sits. And the last number we had was 29, confirmed. Sask 13 NDP That's that they've You know they've You know whatever

What's the word I'm looking for here folks So they got it locked out Party and we just about have this one locked up Yeah yeah yeah We got three more Three more and you can call it this a SaaS party Three more of how many Cue the water lines breaking

Yeah At a 19 They got to win like three more out of 19 seats So I think it's 19 Can we officially call it two more out of 19 seats? I don't know. Prince Albert's really close.

But we're looking at it. We're going like, at what point do we just say they're going to get two more seats? Yeah, two more seats. Yeah, two more. That's 31. Like, they're going to get two more, right? They're going to get two more.

Because if you look at the ones that are not confirmed. It's not a tumor. Well, if you look at the ones that aren't confirmed yet, they're pretty leading by two of them at least are leading by more than 400 with like more than half the polls close like Jamie Martins we can call hers pretty much which writing is that sorry um that's martinsville so she's a new candidate yeah that's closer you think 15 25 1138 i mean in six to 10 reporting so you're just over halfway like statistics Basically, it could happen, but it's not super likely. Okay, look at, okay, then the other one, Saskatchewan Rivers, that one's almost 800. So that one's even more.

So I could see that one. I mean, Saskatchewan Rivers is a blowout, though. Saskatchewan Rivers, you got $2,400 for, uh, for the Saskatchewan party and $1,200 for the NDP. Yeah. But that one's not green. It's not green yet. You can put a pin in that one. You can, they're just, it's just the bureaucrats are falling behind like every election counting.

That one, we'll put a pin in that one. So, so are we, are we saying we can call this at that we don't know the final tally. Is that what we're going? Also, the other. We're waiting. Here's, here's the other thing, though, is that zero mail ballots have been counted. And they're pending account of 20,000, which is roughly 2% of the total votes, a little bit less. So, you know, it could, because the other thing, QDM, you were pushing back on it.

But I do think that when it comes to advance votes and mail-in ballots, they do tend to go against the incumbent a little bit more. Yeah, like, I think when you look specifically at Saskatch, what I think a lot of the times, like, let's look clear. like mail and ballots are typically going to be seniors disabled people that aren't able to get to polling stations whatnot kind of thing right and like that's one thing you see it notoriously in Saskatchewan here a lot of people jump on and be like well if we just had STC kicking around here still then we could take the bus to get to where we're going

you know what I mean well that was that was one of the NDP platforms from 2020 was that they were going to bring back the STC yeah but like so I mean I don't think that it shocks me much When mail and ballots are counted that they normally go, like, leaning towards the socialist party kind of thing. Because, like, these are probably marginalized people that are looking for more social assistance. There's nothing against the people that are handicapped or if they're in a remote area or if they're elderly or whatever. I mean, it's not a shocker to me, right? And in this situation, it wouldn't be a shocker to me as well, considering the demographics at existence of Saskatchewan.

Am I wrong in saying something like that, Chris, Nadine? before before we go any further 30 confirmed for the sass party okay well there you go i was sorry i was just entertaining myself for two seconds i was just scrolling through some people that were like very very hard on the one side of things waiting for a uh uh uh defeated speech from scottomobium and now a lot of them are posting being like well just take solace and knowing this is going to be his last win anyways you know what i mean so you can't the pivot is kind of starting already right me they've they've kicked over all the pieces and now they're shitting on the board. I'll save that discussion for X tomorrow when I'm fighting with the left.

But I just, you know, like, no matter what, and I put a tweet out when I was loading just before I came in here and got there, I put in all my social media platforms. And I haven't tried to influence anyone in any way in this election for any party. I just wanted to try and encourage people to go vote. That's it. That's all I wanted people to do. and no matter what, no matter who takes the win tonight, who gets sent back and whoever it is,

to anyone that has had the notion to put in the effort to go and try and make their community better, like, thank you. No matter what party you're running for or for what reason it was, even the Greens. Even the Greens, absolutely. Especially the Greens.

You wanted to try and make a difference in your community. And I say especially the Greens because running for the Green Party in Saskatchewan has got probably one of the hardest parties to run for in this province. Not only because you're probably not going to get a lot of votes, but if it's in a smaller community and you put your name on a sign that you run for the Green Party and let's say you're running a business somewhere or you're working somewhere, I'll be the first one to admit

it here publicly. There's probably a pretty good chance. Some people are going to hold a grudge against you for doing that. And that shouldn't be something that exists anywhere in a democracy. Anyone that pays taxes and is here and is trying to run a business. and has a belief and wants to back that belief up, has the absolute right to go run for whatever party they want to in this country. That's what makes Canada the beautiful place that it is, right?

So to anyone else there that did run, thank you, and to anyone that's considering running, go do it. I'll say this, though, and yes, completely agree with everything you said, but as far as the Green Party goes, it wouldn't be very hard to run a common-sense green platform. No, it wouldn't, man. It would not. And Chase Barber was the guy.

Yes, it was. Wasn't he? Yeah. And so it's not so much, it's not so much that they're running for the Green Party, is that they're running on a shitty platform, I would say. But the problem is, is like, this is where federal politics can splash too hard into provincial politics. Because when someone says the Green Party, all I see is Elizabeth May completely smashed

at a podium. Drong. That's all I see. Right. Yep. Chearing on Omar Kedar. Like, I mean, I just, I just, that's just the first thing that, flashes into my head and like it cancels everything else out.

It's not the first time she's done it either. Do you have to take orders from Palestine to run for the Green Party now? Yeah. Well, I mean, she does love her Steins. I'm going to get back to the election. It's interesting to see. Wow. Was that a slow burden?

Welcome back, baby. I had to make sure that I actually understood that you actually said that. But then I was like, no, it's dues. Never mind. It's perfect. Did I burn? Sorry, I wasn't really paying 100% attention. I just, no. It's all good.

It took, like 10 seconds to get the joke. It's taken, you know what? It's taken five hours and I'm finally glad that Toos is eating it on the chin a bit. It's great. So Paul Merriman is not pulling ahead. So it's not a for sure thing. It's pretty close still. Paul Merlin is not pulling ahead right now?

No, he's not. And the Saskatoon, oh, no, wait. It's in Saskatoon, Saskatoon, Silver Spring. So NDP's at 2857 and Paul Merriman's at 2789, 8 out of 10. And then the other one, Bronwyn-Air. I don't know if I'm saying that right. I think it's air. Yeah.

And so Darcy with the NDPs at 2472 and she's at 1773. So that's not looking good for her at all. and she's been quite a prominent MLA for a really long time. She was a minister of education. She's the justice ministering now. I believe, yeah. And I also, I, I, I kind of always thought that if, like, Scott Moe stepped down, she might be one of the ones that would put her name forward, but I don't know that.

Oh, yeah, you don't think. Who do you think would run? Ken Shevel-Day off? Ken shoveled a off right off the top of my head. Do you think anybody might try and jump down from federal? No. Like Kevin Waugh, for example, maybe? No, I don't think so.

I can't see it. You get paid less and you get crapped on even more. Why would they? I'm just trying to think. Double pension? Do you know what about this earlier? Who would be the next possible leader? And I put my finger on it either.

Yeah, I'm hoping someone will come out of nowhere. But, yeah, Dustin just stepped down, but I think he would have been better. He would have been a little bit more like a Brad Wall. When I think about someone running, I kind of want to see someone like Brad Wall. That would be Minister of Seniors right now at a swift current. You should know him. Barbara, what's his name? Everett Henley.

Everett Henley, that's, yeah. Okay, that's who I think. He reminds me of a young, like a Bradwell kind of guy. I've just seen a different out of that. But he was awful during COVID. Horrible through COVID. Is there what I would not? Alicia Ottenright commented.

Rumor has it, Andrew Shear. We have kind of a scandal brewing in the Swift corner area where Everett's a bit a little promiscuous with the neighbor. I heard that. Yes. That's very scary. Lost a lot of support in the local community. It's not just a it's not just a rumor. I think it's

pretty much It's not a rumor then be like, I think it's because that technically I think it is then that's still okay. It's news. My source is tell me it's not a rumor. No, it's not a rumor. I got it first hand from his

phrasing. Yeah. Are we gossiping now? I shouldn't. Yeah. Christians are not supposed to. Yeah, we're off the rails a little bit here. We're a lot.

We're five hours in. What are you going to do? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Andrew Shear would be a horrible choice for the Sask party if he tries to run the way he did when he was leader of the conservatives. If he tries to act the way

he was after he stepped down, these like momentary glimpses of you're like, where the hell was that guy? Yes. Instead of just being like watered down mayonnaise, he's actually snappy and has some good interesting things to say if that guy shows up, he could be good for the SaaS party.

If it's the former leader of the federal conservatives, they may as well just hand the next election to the NDP. Watered down mayonnaise? Yeah. Is it mixed? I didn't even know it mixed. Right. It doesn't. Would vinegar be a better solution?

Are we still at 30, Brett? Yep. I'm looking at the clock and I'll just like, find some way to shut twos up. I don't know. At this point, we're sitting at 30. It's like, at what point do we just call this sucker? You know?

I call it a half an hour ago. We call it. I guess so. You know, it's funny, the first time I ever had Quick Dick McDick on, we sat here and did exactly this. And it was about midnight, and I never hit record.

And me and him were both, me and him were both half in the bag and feel like great. We just met, been a great conversation. I went, ah, crap. I didn't press record. So I texted him, not knowing quick at the time.

And I told him, and he's like, ah, brick, I've got to half in the bag. But screw it. Fire back up will go again. And I'm like, it's like 12.30 in the morning. I'm like, no, we're not firing this back up again. I'm like, let's give it a week and we'll start all over again. So episode zero is lost to the abyss.

But I was probably a great conversation, hey? You have a tendency of doing that a lot, don't you, Sean? Me? We've done that a couple times too. It was like, shit, I should get recorded before we've been too far. Stop it, Chris. You have a lot of... You have a lot of those...

Yeah, yeah. I'm with you. I got your back on that, Chris. Sean's... I think that Sean's subliminal catchphrase. Oh, shit, I should have hit record. You have a lot of conversations like that. That's every time...

Cut the live stream. Cut it right now. Every time I talk to Terrick Almaga, we go for a beer every once in a while or we're just shooting your shit. And, yeah, 20 minutes, 30 minutes in. I'm like, this should just, we should just be sitting down and recording this. And we never do.

My husband and Terek have a bromance. Yeah, well, your husband's a really interesting guy to talk to as well. Did Christine tell lose her seat? I think, well, it's not a for sure. What riding? That is Regina, Wisconsin. Wascana Plains.

It's 41, 14 to 3759. Yeah. Yeah, and 11 of 11 reporting. Okay, so. ETV Regina just called that one. Yeah, it just hasn't turned yet. It should have turned. I didn't see that one coming.

That's interesting. Yeah, because she was working hard for that one. Like, I know quite a few people that were outdoor knocking with her. It's interesting to see, like, the prominent ones, like the ministers losing their seats. Well, I mean, you had. It's interesting because, like, so Humboldt, you had Donna Harpower, who's the former finance minister, and she's the one who got the $8,000 private plane

from Regina to North Battleford. I know a guy that did a video on that. Yeah, yeah. And we talked about it on the mashup, but a day before you did the video on that. Went up each other. I guess I'll have to start watching it. Burn.

Burn. Well played. I'm going to go cry myself to sleep right now. All right. Thank you. What a dick. So Elena Ross, that one's really close, and there's only one pole left. Which one are we talking about?

Elena, or Alana? Am I saying it right? What writing they do? Oh, sorry, Prince Albert. I assume you guys know who all these people are. Nope. Prince Albert. Prince Albert North coach.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, 2597 to 2526. That one's down to the wire. And that's going to be one of the ones that's going to get blamed on the United Party because it's 281 votes for Sask United. And if they end up losing that one, they're going to say it was because of vote splitting and not because the Sask Party didn't do enough to entice those voters over to them. But maybe that's just me.

Well, the same thing was said kind of with the federal government, right? When the CPC lost a bunch of seats to PPC, vote splitting, though I'm just going to I'm trying to trigger you guys. But all the conservatives, I think. In the last federal election, the conservatives ran on a carbon tax. They basically, they were like Justin Trudeau with no hair. that was that was erin o two and so you look at it you're like

why would you why would you blame anyone for not voting for that shitty fucking platform they had mm-hmm there's nobody there's nobody that federal election was

what changed my mind on on vote's wedding on the both sweating argument was that federal election because it would have been CPC and we would have it would have been a CPC minority had yeah if you look at the number

numbers it would have. You're assuming that everybody who voted PPC would have voted conservative rather than either A, spoiling their ballots, B not showing up or C saying, I hate the conservative party and their shitty platform. I'm going to vote for liberals just to see it all burn down. Like I just, can we rewind the clock and just go back to Aaron O'Toole being on stage and him talking and just being like, this is what I got to vote for? This is what I got to vote for.

This is BS. I mean I've never seen a worse politician Oh wait, Kamala's pretty bad Joe Biden couldn't even walk up or down a flight of stairs To Aaron O'Toole But I don't think he ever shit his pants Wow

Aaron O'Toole was bad You know why he was so awful Because he was a wolf and sheep's clothing or she Yeah He was and he fooled us all That's why he was worse Kamala I don't know. He fooled any of us. I think he didn't fool me.

He showed up. You're like, all right, that's the guy's leading us. Okay. He started listening. He's like, hey, heck is this. Marty Bose is saying global news calling SaaS Party voters uneducated. Marty, you got to send me that clip, man. I was just going to say, if we got the clip? You know what? Yeah, get the clip. Global news is really interesting.

I wonder. At least there wasn't Rachel Gilmore this time. I wonder. We actually don't talk about her on this show. We're not allowed to say, there's a fine jar for saying that name, Chris. So now you've just, you just, yeah, there you go. We haven't talked about her in a long time. She's the one who will not be named.

Is she still relevant? Like, is she still? Well, that's exactly it. I have no idea. But the point is, is if everybody stops talking about her, her and her shit opinions will eventually disappear and go away and start working at Starbucks. She's teamed up with Dean Blundell. So how can you not mix that match up right there?

Once again, why would we want to talk about either one of those people? Someone else teamed up with Dean from Alberta that shouldn't have. That is also true. That was a very poorly thought out decision. Yeah. Did I miss that one? David Parker went on Dean Glendell. I'm going to meet up with him in Phoenix.

Who? Who? Dean Glendell? No, no, with David Parker, Tucker Carlson has like a live event in Phoenix with Trump and RFK Jr. And I'm going tomorrow. I'm actually flying out tomorrow to Phoenix to go see it. Why do you want to see it? Well, I'll go out on a limb and say that Tucker Carlson is the best speaker I've ever seen live.

I wanted to know why, Nadine, why do you want to go to Phoenix to hear, I'm also at a Trump event. Because I've been really getting politically, I'm going to be completely honest with you. I've been getting politically connected to a lot of people in the U.S. And a lot of them are going to be there. So I'm going to mingle with potentially getting some help in advancing the conservative movement in Canada. So I'm a big fan of RFK too. So, yeah, I'm going.

Do you believe that a lot of those policies belong in Canada, especially from our... Not necessarily, not necessarily. Well, I believe some of it, yeah. Yeah, I believe that when it comes... Make frying oil beef towel again? Yeah, I do believe that we've been misled by a lot of things when it comes to our health. And I do believe we're slowly getting poisoned. So, but like you...

by our food. I think we have a lot more chemicals that are allowed in our food that shouldn't be allowed in our food. I think just for example, the food pyramid, I don't think it's accurate to what we should be eating. I think meats have been demonized and I don't think meats are bad for us. I think we'd eat a lot less than what we should. So that and the whole COVID vaccine.

stuff. I believe we were misled a lot and the truth's starting to come out. The information starting to come out. And I think RFK was really big behind exposing some of that. So I know that's probably one of the things you and I don't don't see eye to eye in, but I think. Probably not. But there's some guy did a video just even on my herbicides of pesticides of wheat get a chance to watch it. They're pretty informative. Yeah. Like I'm not saying all herbicide or all pesticide are bad. I just think, and look, my husband is a farmer or grew up on a farm and he wants to be a farmer and it was a grain farm. So I'm not against all pesticides. I just think, for example, if we're going to have wheat being grown for food consumption, I don't like the

idea of it being sprayed the day before it's, or a couple of days before it's harvested when you could just wait a week and harvest it later. Now you have a bunch of... But like, but like 10 days, 10 to 14 days, if we're using a glyphsate to dry down, like into a kernel of wheat is like essentially that's protected by the outer shell of the plant itself. So you're like killing the undergrowth of it and then there's like a... You don't think any of that is getting in our foods? Like, no.

Like anything that would be hardly measurable, like not even close. Okay, then I'll give you one thing. Why is Saskatchewan the highest rate of MS in all of the world? And there was a study that was done, that it wasn't just DNA, because if you moved from outside of Saskatchewan, they did a study where somebody moved. If you were a child in Saskatchewan, you still had the same risk, but if you move when you were an adult, you didn't.

Like there's things that are happening in Saskatchewan that are increasing risk to our health. Now, what I love about RFK, he says we should study these things. And I guess what would those things be? Like, what are they? What are the health risk of some of these policies that are happening? Are they affecting our food supplies? If so, what does it look like?

Is it affecting us? Is it changing the rate of fertility? Like, we have to look at all of these things. No, no, like, I'm just saying that you see. said that there's like there's these studies exist that happen to scatchewan is it is it glyphsate on wheat that's causing it is that what you're saying i'm not saying that's what it is i'm saying we should be studying it and that's what rfk calls for so he's not saying we should stop all of this there should be actual studies done and there hasn't been okay was but i yeah i just saw the

clip of trump being like i'm going to let this guy go nuts and it's like wait what yeah but i also saw a clip of Trump saying he's going to repeal all the taxes too. And somebody told me at the start of this bloody thing that he's like, yeah, but he didn't, he didn't say that really. And I'm like, he was just on Joe Rogan. It's going to have tens of millions of views. And he literally said, let's go back to tariffs. Let's go back to 1850.

And I'm like, so if we're going to say he's going nuts with RFK, then I'm going to say to twos, if a quick ticket said, I'm saying we're going back to no taxes. I tell you what, I'll say this about RFK. I got a lot of appreciation for his lack of trust in government. and oh yeah he learned it the hard way i mean he's pretty much the only male figure in his family that the CIA hasn't killed i think i think you have to give uh put trump in a little bit of context to do because to him going nuts uh is kind of comparable to uh a big mac being a steak right

he's going all out right so i think i think there's a lot of good things about the guy to be without us. Sometimes he just needs to not say some of the things. I'm just making a point, you know, John, RFK is not going to be left unattended to go nuts with national health secrets or anything like that.

I think that he's going to open a lot of cans for discussion. Oh, yeah. That's absolutely great. So I think it's interesting to see how the dynamics and I'd be interested to see the same panel coming together post November 5th to see how life is going to go then. Well, I mean, does anybody think that Kamala has a legitimate chance of winning the election? I said legitimate. There's no snowballs hope in 80s, right?

I mean, she's a media construct and they couldn't construct a big enough lie. So I don't think it's legitimate. Do we have a 31st seat yet? No, we do not. The head shake is coming in loud and clear. This is where we're sitting out. I'm going to pull it up here. It still shows 3427.

The confirmed is at 3013 still. Am I correct in saying that, Brett? Look at Saskatoon Westview. Saskatoon Westview, for example, is, the NDP is up by six votes. 3019. Well, wait a second. want to clarify that i said 3013 we've the ndp have gained six so it is now 30 to 19 so for example so

so saskatoon westview david buckingham and april chief calf um nEP 2006 sass party 2006 that's a close one six votes and there's still uh two polling stations left to report let me ask you this uh you know we're talking about u s politics and and i'm we're doing SaaS collection live coverage. I'm going to pull it back to Saskatchewan for a second. And then we can go back to whatever everybody wants to talk about. Is anyone surprised to how close it is as we sit here? Because when I look back through the predictions,

you know, most people had, even Gormley had, you know, where we started off, had the Saskatchewan losing a bunch of seats, but maybe not this close. Jim Gormley, I'm at 38? Yeah.

He had him at 38, 38, 23. and there's been a couple come in where it was going to be, you know, 30, 29 with a couple of Sask United. But, I mean, have we seen anything to this point that's showing anything other than Saskatchewan party or the NDP? Nothing, right? I'm safe in saying that. I don't think. There's not a single riding where any other party is even remotely close, correct? Dakota Arm River is the best I've seen so far for Sask United and they just barely broke a thousand. Okay. So, and the leader that. And Last Mountain Torchwood.

But how many did the leader win? Almost four times that, correct? Lumpton Morris. More for Saskia. Honestly, I thought they would do better than that. John only got 925, but there's 22 out of 31 polls. Yeah. They didn't have enough fun. They needed to have more fun with it. And they needed to be a differentiator from the establishment politics. is really what it came down to for me anyway. Because just the typical political tweets that don't really engage anybody or get anybody interested,

that people just gloss over, you got to make it something that people are going to want to actually pause for a minute and look at. And they just had scroll by tweets. But that's just, that's just my take on it. You're going back to Saskina. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

But once again, once again, I go back to the original question, which, you know, is like, okay, so let's take all that to the side, okay? It doesn't look like the Sask United, uh, Sask, yes, Sask United is going to all of a sudden steal one. So any prediction made where they have a seat or two or three doesn't matter. Those are all gone. So here we sit. We're at 30 to 19. Is that number starting to creep up?

And you're like, oh, man, I didn't think it would be that close. No, I expected it to be that close. Jen, genuine stupid question here. at what point are we past the point of waking up in the morning and the mail-in votes can flip the election? That's actually, that's going to happen in late 2026. Yeah, it's probably more relevant question. It has to be more than one percent, right? Oh.

It has, like, the votes are what, 2% of the vote? So if you go look at the comparison, if any of the writings are within 2% or 3%, then it might flip it. But if they're not, then it shouldn't. Interesting. Because if you're generalizing it, right? If two or three percent of the votes are mail-in, like, for example, Moose Jaw North, Tim McLeod is at 60 percent. Chantelle Fisher is at 38 percent.

So that's way more than two percent. And Moose Jaw North, Musca is going to have... I'm going to have to grab my earphones. Moose Jaw is going to have a lot of mail-in ballots because nobody there has driver's licenses. Windows. Could somebody just, you know,

like we just need 31. Can we get 31? Carry on with life? You know, because I, listen, at some point, they're probably going to have the mail-in, ballot thing come up. We're going to wait two weeks.

And actually, let's go back to, you were just highlighting with Joe Macamow. That one's interesting because you've got Megan Patterson from the Sask party versus Melissa Patterson from the NDP SASC sector. Spelled the identical way too. Yeah. You've got Megan Patterson versus Melissa Patterson.

I don't know if they're related, but they're running in this deal. Twin sisters. Wouldn't that be cool if they were twins? It's like when they, oh, sorry. I feel like the older one would vote Sask Party. It's like when they feed the ballot with the names of candidates that the same,

like I think Bernie, they did that with Bernie where you had like a bunch of Maxi, Bernie. What if they picked her just so it sounded the same? Well, any dirty trick that will win a, an election. That's the way it goes in Canada. I mean, look at what happened. We had all

those MPs named today, right? Which, by the way, I'd been saying forever, you on, Paul Wu, was one of them. Is Jamie Sinclair sitting there? Jamie, are you there? I see his code. I'm still on Carla Beck reelected. I don't hear anything from Jamie. Okay, we're going to kick you out again. Jamie Sinclair just popped into our thing. It could be Carla, so, Carla Beck is in

Regina Lakeview and it's 4,700 to 1600. Yeah, that's the landslide. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. I saw, I saw some left this guy on Twitter who did some video talking about how classic, um, classic SaaS party it was that Scott Mo was riding around in a pickup truck. And Carla Beck had rode around a pickup truck.

Yeah, the exact same thing. And nobody like, you know, everybody that chat all over Jason, Kenny at the start for being like, oh, he doesn't care about the environment. He's driving around in a pickup truck. None of them said anything about Carla Beck when she drove around Saskatchewan in a pickup truck. Maybe it was a,

maybe it was a hemmy E-tork. You just, yeah, what were they were they towing it around? Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, breaking news on the CBC. No, I'm kidding. On the mashup. I was kidding. I was kidding. It's a great song. That's not even funny. It's a great song.

3219 is what Brett is telling us which means we can officially call this thing Can we can we know in the bag? Yeah, it's in the bag. 3219 right now which means 3220 yeah 3220 it could be you know it could it could tighten up obviously and it probably will yeah but right now it's

it's a SaaS government. Does anybody else? The mashup is calling it. Yep. Okay. The mashup is calling it. All right. Does anybody think it's interesting that the conservative writings seem to count their votes

a lot faster than the NDP writings. It's almost as though there's a work ethic argument to be made here. In Mitch Stewart's defense, he already put that up there. I saw tweet that earlier on. He was like, I don't know why all these rural writings just got their work done faster.

Yeah. Yeah, the slowest reporting one is Regina Lakeview where Carla Beck is. the slowest, the quote unquote laziest counting is happening where the NDP leader is.

Okay, we can call this. Yes? Yeah, we did call it. Any final thoughts from all you lovely people? We're closing in on six hours. I mean, we could labor it on, you know, because then when me and twos eventually do the U.S. election and we go six hours and ten

minutes, just to have a little bit fun. We could just keep talking about this longstanding thing as we work towards the federal election here in Canada. But is there any final thoughts from anyone as we close in on hour six of SASC provincial live election coverage

that anyone would like to talk about? Let's just go one by one. Sure. Nadine, you're in the top left. Let's start with you. Mm-hmm. I'm curious as to how many of the new MLAs won.

If, like, you know how we lost 21 seats, or 21 MLA stepped down and then 21 new people kind of stepped up. I'm wondering how many of those are running or have one denomination. I know a lot of them were in the city, but was that the SASS party MLA's kind of jumping ship before? So I'm really glad that the NDP didn't get in in power because I was really afraid they were going to overturn the parental rights legislation.

So, so I would have brought back COVID regulations. You know what? Yeah. Yeah. I know you're joking, but but at the same time, am I? Can you imagine if they had been in power when COVID came? I think we would have all been locked up in our homes for two years.

We would have been the California. So while I give Scott Moore a hard time, it was much better than an NDP government. So I'm actually going to bed pretty happy with what has happened. I didn't think Sask United would have so little support. But at the same time, when the SAS Party move on the education stuff, the parental rights stuff, I think a lot of people who had supported Sask United in like the Lumsden's Moors, obviously you saw that tonight.

They kind of went back to the SAS party, whether it's votes. splitting fear or what. But I'm just glad the NDP didn't get in. So that's what I'm happy for and that's what I prayed for. Chris Barber. Who's next? Well, I'm thankful for the outcome. I'm a little bit surprised as well when it comes to the Sask United.

I honestly thought they would do better. I thought John would get his seat or Nadine would get her seat. But going forward into this, I would like people to step forward now and find a way to try and unite everybody within the United Party and the SaaS party and we need maybe a leadership review on Mole if that's what needs to happen or accountability has to set in for the last number of years in office

we can move forward and try and fix this so in four years the next election is a lot better outcome than than what this was been for for a conservative party running I don't think there's going to be a leadership review I think he's just going to announce that he's stepping down like he's probably already said it privately tonight even and yeah in the next however many

months he's going to say yeah i'm going to step down and depending on how the final count goes he'll probably just sit on the back bench for the remainder of his term agree wayne i you know i i i come into this evening uh with a slightly different uh skin in the game i guess uh but uh i'm i'm incredibly thrilled to see such great participation. I streamed this out to my community, you know, several thousand watching over there as well. This is the new media doing what needs to be done. And I'm grateful to see it real time. This is how change happens. And there was no easy button. But I think maintaining and not losing ground to socialism is is a victory in and itself.

I think this turned out to be the best case scenario for the people of Saskatchewan. It's easier to move forward not having lost territory than having lost territory because, you know, because of things like this, you know, you're creating an environment that people can trust. And I'm grateful to have an opportunity to take part in the best damn Saskatchewan election coverage in Canada's night, the first of many more. But be warned, I'm going to be running competition for you guys on election night. I'm going to be doing a re-stream watch party with the People's Pundit, Rich Berris, Sean Parnell, and Wendy Bell. Which the U.S. election, you mean?

Yes. Oh, we're totally going to blow you out of the water, but thanks for showing up. Isn't this the wonderful example, exactly what I'm saying, of a new media environment that is giving the best value for the time spent, not for the buck spent, but for the time spent. Thank you so much for all of this, Sean and twos. And Nadine, great to see you again, a longtime friend of the family and Chris and a quick dick. An honor and a pleasure to get to know you guys a little bit. We'll have to meet again another day.

So thanks so much for all of this, Sean. And finally, quick dick. Just thanks to everybody. It was great to sit down and chat. And actually, pretty much all of you guys, except for those two monkeys sitting by the SMP center, and this is the first chance to be live with you guys. So it was great.

And I mean, this is great, but I always really appreciate in person stuff too. So make sure everybody's in each other's neck of the woods. We get together for a coffee or beer, whatever the day allows kind of thing. You know, I hope this is a wake-up call to the SaaS party. Just with looking at the numbers kind of thing. And I hope this sparks a little bit of change in there to try and make things work a little better for everybody in the province of Saskatchewan.

Because no matter which political party you support or what you do, this is all of our province. And we all need to find a way to be able to get together and make it work. And it's got to work for everybody. Because if this whole party, sorry, this whole province works together collectively, we're a powerhouse that would not be able to be stopped. Keep that in mind for all each other strength. So Saskatchewan is underrated federally. Thanks folks for for tuning in. We're going to let everybody all of our guests,

I guess we'll kick them out. So thanks to all and to everybody who joined us beforehand for joining us. But we're going to remove you all and allow me and this, I don't know, I get a couple choice words. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, by all means. Well, I just bring it up with management.

Was he snoring? Was he just? right there we got a we got a lot of love a lot of love for you Jim oh that's good I can't believe we got that he's sitting there

and try to talk to be storm Jesus Oh God I love you Jim I hope you see this tomorrow Okay um We got to make sure Chuck sees this I might clip that for the next

military round table. I mean, I mean, I don't know. Let's go back to him real quick. Live on the scene, Jamie Sinclair. Oh, yeah. Okay. Just leave it. No, no, no, just leave it. Just leave it. What was a cherry on the top for you, twos? That's right here. You had to wait until our almost six tab, just beautiful. Oh, yeah, that was, that was. As we close out.

Okay, no, no, no, let's just, let's just do this up like all night. We're going to leave. As we close out. As we close out. No, no, no, no, no. Kevin D. Okay. Marty.

Okay. Crazy pitch, hear me out. We just leave the live stream running, and the only thing on it is the map and James snoring. And then he'll wake up in the morning, see his phone and be like, oh, fuck these guys. let's do it let's do it tell me i'm crazy tell me i'm crazy we leave the the election live stream which is the map and jamie oh i don't know what you do here i have a couple oh yeah have a couple thoughts before we bring it back in okay one i just want to say thank you to

amc electrical t bar one transport there's no way um this is possible i mean it is in a sense but they've been those companies have been huge helps oh yeah i don't know how to how do you get serious after that well i mean there there was a comment real early on um where where somebody said that look at the people comment against sweet dreams jamie well i mean there was somebody you know in a very serious sense who was like yeah jamie is just one of those guys who when he talks he brings tears

to your eyes and uh i i can't find it in the chat because we've been going for six hours or six hours of comments, but, uh, but that just got proved correct right now. All I would say is, um, it's been a,

it's been, you know, for the third iteration, we had some minor glitches like at the fact my ex channel wouldn't, wouldn't publish tonight is, you know, I've done how many lives and different things. I've,

you know, have I never had, never had it happen? Certainly not. I've had things happen. That's kind of odd. Not lately though. So to the people on X,

you know, not much we can do about that, but certainly there was plenty of time, plenty of places to, uh, to find it to T-bar 1 and AMC electrical. Just thanks for believing in what we do, right? Like, certainly if you're in the Rocky Mountain area and you're looking for an electrician,

AMC or if you're looking to be an electrician more than like me. Yeah, true enough. AMCElectical.orgia, we can, we can contact it, uh, get you contacted or hooked up. He's, uh, he's, uh, he's quite the guy.

And then of course, T-Bar 1 here in the Whiteminster area. And honestly, a Western Canada because they haul Western Canada wide. If you're looking for a trucking company, uh, pickers,

etc. Uh, they do a ton of work. They're fantastic. So two small town, um, roots in, uh,

small town Saskatchewan, uh, you know, anyways, they've been fantastic. So that's, that's one thought. The next is,

you know, we didn't have a lot of, you know, we had this great guest list coming into this one, too, and certainly we got, we got we got to to play that out no complaints about our guests tonight it was fantastic i wish brad wall would have showed up that sucked and jerry ritz getting held out because of technical

difficulties that sucked but other than that um you know the only one we other one we missed was was jennifer l she's still live on cbc or she was the last time i text her so that's why does she come over where people are watching yeah i agree i agree um you know it's it's it's it's been a ton of fun you know um one of the things i don't know about you maybe two's is is different than me. But I never thought I'd be sitting in this chair talking politics for six hours straight. I always thought it would be, you know, you're literally doing that tomorrow. I know. I got all the candidates for the municipal election here in Lloyd. I got 12 of the 14 coming in the studio. So that should be fun. That should be a lot of a fun. That's my Tuesday. At a half hour each,

that's six hours. Correct. Oh yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be this on steroids again. So, Um, you know, to all you lovely people who tuned in tonight and, uh, yeah, thanks for, thanks for coming on along our wild ride. You know, like this is a pretty simple, smart, maybe dumb at times idea. You know, like, uh, the first BC election we got into glory holes that seemed to dominate the conversation. Yeah, but I mean, we got Jamie C. Claire.

At least on this one, we kept it on the ball. We didn't get silly. We didn't. we we kept it we didn't get kept it between the lines uh oh man this is

uh SaaS collection coverage was no laughing matter but uh well you know what he's probably he probably fell asleep watching CBC Any final thoughts, too? Any final thoughts before we sign off? Just heartfelt thanks to everybody you came on and everybody you tuned in.

And we're going to be doing this probably not all in the studio for Nova Scotia on November 26th. But we got to do something like we got to keep this going. You know, they're a few hours ahead. So it's not going to be too much of a. issue because Jamie will already be sleeping by the time polls close and we're going to be doing the the US one as well

and it's going to be less serious than than this one. It's like I mean T-short I was like I'm gonna if I can't hear you right now if I the snoring I can't hear you I can't hear you if I keep laughing this article but I pee myself T-short might have just peeed myself

I can't even read the copy. Marty Now my dogs are barking at Jim, holy shit Oh These are too much fun As we As the night

As the night draws late And everybody gets ready to go to sleep We bid you all farewell We'll let Jamie sign us off tonight Thanks for tuning in All right, thanks a lot everybody Right, I'm like, okay All right, folks.

So we're going to try and wake up here. Jamie, wake up here. I got some of this. 10 seconds. You might want to just plug your ears. We got the buzzer turned all the way. It's like bonus scenes at the end of one of those movies. Better give one more time.

There's no wake in it tonight, folks. We appreciate you hopping in and be. a part of this thanks guys we'll see you next time