Shaun Newman Podcast - #740 - US Live Election Coverage

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Oh my goodness, X actually works tonight. Looks like Elon was answering my calls after all. I've been trying to get back on X for lives here for a while, and it seems like it's going to work tonight. Too's, how's Toos doing? Chewes is glad you finally figured that out. Now, if he can only figure out his mic issues, we'd be on to something.
Starting point is 00:01:15 We won't hold their breath there. Um, well, how's everybody doing tonight? All right. Go Trump. We got, uh, we got Marauder James coming in. We got high Sean, because I'm chopped liver. You are chopped liver, buddy.
Starting point is 00:01:28 What the shellbrook, man. Okay. Oh, there we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hi, two. Okay, fair enough. Actually said hi, two, two, two.
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Starting point is 00:02:13 Now, as you can tell, this is, this is our fourth, yeah, Alberta, Saskatchewan and DC. Or, okay, yeah, yeah, fourth election coverage. And if people are wondering, me and twos are not in the same location this time, we thought it might be easier in the middle of everything we've been doing to do it virtually. And that all being said, twos, I want to make sure we get to the guy sitting in the background because he's here for about 10 minutes. And then we got more people coming on. There's tons to talk about, you know, the tools are closed.
Starting point is 00:02:43 fine well our first guest he's a family nurse practitioner who is one of the founders of leading edge clinic alongside piercori of course he's been on the podcast before i'm talking about scott myersland so scott thanks for hopping in hi scott hi sean hi tuce now um scott where are you uh coming in from uh so people in uh watching this are uh know where you're you know coming in yeah uh my wife and i live in the beautiful finger lakes region of new york so we're um in it's We're in the shadow of Kugelake. Ithaca. They got some really good manufacturing out there.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's interesting. We definitely have a manufacturing history. Ithaca guns were made here a long time ago. Yeah. Now, tell us about New York, Scott. You know, like when I, when you got two Yahoo's from Alberta doing election coverage for the United States. You know, like I'm like, I don't even get to vote in this, but I get to, you know, like as I keep, as we say up here, it's like the. Super Bowl of all elections is the United States.
Starting point is 00:03:47 We stare at it. We know it's going to dictate for North America, which way we're heading here into the future. Henceforth, us trying to bring on some different people from my background with the podcast and from across the United States to just kind of give us their thoughts on it. What are the thoughts from New York, your thoughts on, you know, so far what's been going on? Well, you know, a lot of people that haven't ever been to New York think that New York is New York city, kind of like people have never been to Pennsylvania, think Philadelphia is Pennsylvania. You know, New York City is in the southeastern part of the state.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And there's really quite a difference philosophically, politically. In every sort of way. Yeah. Would it be safe to say that there's a strong urban rural divide? Yes. Okay. And like here in Ithaca, I call it hippie-dippy-dipa, there's a tagline. It's 10 square kilometers surrounded by reality.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know, I can literally drive five minutes outside of the city and be in farmland in any direction. And I think I've counted two Trump signs in the entire city of Ithaca. And you travel. Now, is that because there's no signs or is that because they're all Harris signs? Both. Both. I think that many people rightly assume that they're taking their lives into their own hands, putting up a Trump sign in the city of Ithaca.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. And the people who live outside of Ithaca think they have guns. And if you want to mess with their Trump signs, you just go ahead. Fair enough. Everybody knows what they're looking at. now Scott like when it comes to uh the u.s election you know i'm going to pull up the map here there people can see where it's sitting right now 101 to 71 i look at this and i'm like erin well we got a long ways to go do you see anything different scott are you like well here's what you
Starting point is 00:05:55 should know um about uh you know which way it's trending and the the different things of uh you know like how much do you pay attention to it? are you like man this is just like you know it's early times here we still got well ways obviously we got a ways to go but like you know are you like, are you feeling out Trump? Are you feeling out Harris? Do you care? Does it matter? I care very, very deeply. My wife and I have had daily, sometimes multiple times a day, political conversations following these campaigns. And we're watching minute-to-minute coverage here. I don't think that we're really going to have much beyond speculation until 10. as former Philadelphians.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'll tell you that the early numbers in Philadelphia make me a little nervous. They're very strong, very strong for Kamala. Yeah. And they have a lot of electoral votes in Pennsylvania. What's the story behind that? Because it seems like they've got a vastly disproportionate amount compared to their population?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Pennsylvania? Or do they actually have the population, and I'm just not aware of it? No, I mean, they have the population. I mean, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia anchored on both. There's four million people in Philadelphia, anchored on both ends of the state, and then there's huge areas of rural population throughout the state.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I would say that, going into the day that I was thinking that Trump was going to win. And I'm actually still hopeful that Trump is going to win. But I'm getting a little nervous based on the early reporting. And is that just because of Pennsylvania it being such a swing state? And I just pulled it up, right? Kamala Harris right now has 627,000. votes, that's 67% of the votes in so far, Donald Trump at 298,000.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like, when you see these, because like one of the things here in Canada, we always stare at is out east, right? That really dictates the election when it comes to the West, right? And I'm sitting here watching this and going, okay, like, you know, I see so much blank. I'm like, and yet Scott's nervous. Walk me through that. You know, I'm not a, I just, I have to qualify this and say I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a reporter. I'm not a, I used to be a Politico, you know, I used to be part of the city and county Democratic committee for like eight years. So I've done my share of collecting petitions and poll watching. Part of what makes me nervous is the comparisons, because there's a lot of comparing here, kind of looking at where Trump was in 2020 against Biden and where he is now. And this morning, the early numbers for Philadelphia in particular looked like they were down.
Starting point is 00:09:28 The early Democrat votes were down, I think. 500, 600,000 compared to 2020. That's a pretty big number to overcome. But now as the day is progressing, as more reports are coming in from Philadelphia, that number, that gap seems to be closing. So personally, that's part of the difference for me. that there's a lot of there's a lot of nervousness
Starting point is 00:10:02 as I understand it on the part of the Democrats in relation to some of the bigger cities in Wisconsin and Michigan and there were some numbers that came in the last hour which are I think Milwaukee was one of them that are a little bit more favorable
Starting point is 00:10:21 for the Democrats so Well, I don't know. I'm looking at the AP and according to them, nothing's come in officially from anywhere in Wisconsin yet, although Michigan is 8% reporting, and they've got Kamala Harris up 54 in change. And 0.4% are voting for Robert Kennedy. I mean, but I mean, why is it, why didn't he take himself off the ballot?
Starting point is 00:10:59 He tried. So he tried. Yeah, they wouldn't let him to. Yeah, you know, that's, that's quite a story, you know, where he had to face many core challenges to get on the ballot. And then in some of those same states. And then they wouldn't even let him off. And they wouldn't let him off the ballot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Well, why don't we bring in the economist whose work can be found on Zero Hedge Newsmax Media? He's the host of the Gold Goats and Guns podcast. I'm talking Tomalwango. Tom, how's it going down in Florida? Well, it's great. I get to smoke this big freaking Monty Cristo that I've got
Starting point is 00:11:34 sitting here because we went plus 12 for Trump. Like I didn't like I couldn't I couldn't have seen that freaking coming. Miami went plus 11 for Trump. West Palm only went only went one and a half points or two points for Harris, which is a complete blowout.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Osceola County went red so the porto ricans voted for trump and the cubans voted for trump um so yeah we're doing okay down here so so the porto rican jokes in madison square gardens had no net effect hi yeah no people don't don't realize this but after the uh the hurricane you know tore through um uh puerto rico back under the clinton administration they you know and they didn't rebuild the place and Haiti and and all that they moved all those people into into into at Orlando. They just didn't rebuild the freaking,
Starting point is 00:12:27 they didn't rebuild and they just relocated everybody into Orlando. So the Puerto Ricans have been in and around the Orlando area, Osceola County. And the Miami, and obviously Miami is mostly Cuban, those who don't like each other. And so, yeah, like Miami, the Cubans finally just broke
Starting point is 00:12:45 hard red. So, no, we really, what it amounts to is that this whole idea that Florida was ever a battleground state was complete horseshit. Okay. It was never purple. It was always purple
Starting point is 00:12:59 because Broward, West Palm and Miami Dade would, they were so corrupt that they would report about 75% of the vote, then wait for the panhandled to get the numbers out of the panhandle.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And then they would stop the count for about two hours. They'd wait for the, they'd calculate the numbers they needed out of the panhandle. And then they'd manufacture the votes they needed to flip those three counties hard, hard blue. That's what they used to do.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Are you suggesting that there's chicanery in an election? In Florida? Yeah. Like we were the butt of the joke and then DeSantis cleaned all that shit up after the Trump election. And now we have the most secure elections in the United States. We report all of our numbers within 20 minutes. of the polls closing.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And there's no problems. And what a shock. Florida is, you know, plus 12. In 2016, I said, no way is Trump going to lose Florida by anything. He's going to win Florida by five points. I was off by two. In 2020, he's going to win by seven. He went by, what, five?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Okay. This time I'm like, he's going to win by nine. I was again. I was off by three points. This time he's going to win by 12. like it's crazy and you know i'm watching the the results coming out of georgia really carefully and i've been sitting here you know kind of looking that thing over and watching them see like they've stopped the count in fulton county they haven't um in alana they haven't um uh updated fulton county in the last
Starting point is 00:14:43 hour and a half they were 53 percent then they went to 72 percent and now they're sitting and they're waiting to see how many votes they have to manufacture to come out of to see if They can steal the election. So you got Fulton, Cobb, Gwynett, all that whole area around, around Atlanta. And that's what they're going to do. And they always do this. And they think they're cute. They think they're sly.
Starting point is 00:15:05 But he's still up by what? 200,000 votes, 190,000? We'll see. The interesting part is watching the Virginia number. He's up by, yeah, yeah, in that, in that range. So in Georgia's story, you're saying? Now, Virginia is a really interesting part because Loudoun County, came in, you know, the northeast part of the, basically the D.C. area of Virginia is the really
Starting point is 00:15:31 interesting part because that's Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William counties. If you look at those, like Fairfax hasn't updated in hours. They're at 58% reported. Loudoun County is already in at 95%. So there's still 5% left because they need to manufacture 5% of the vote. It's 90% now in Prince William County. But Trump's up by, you know, 13,000 votes. So he needs to be ahead by about 100 grand to overwhelm that area. But then there's still like, you know, Virginia Beach. But he's winning in Virginia Beach. He's winning.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And Norfolk is the problem. They're going to probably cancel each other out. And then there's Richmond, which is still. Right now too. Yeah, but where Richmond will, it's only six percent reported. So the problem with Virginia is that it's all the government employees. But he's going to do a lot better in Virginia than people think he is. and he could possibly win it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And that would be fascinating. So in the last couple of minutes, I haven't had a chance to look. So what did they call? They called Wyoming, South and North Dakota and Missouri area. Okay, there's no shock there. Yeah, yeah. I don't think there's been any big surprises so far. Pennsylvania is a bit bluer than I thought it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And Scott was talking about that before you came on. Yeah, well, no, what's going on in Pennsylvania is that you had 17% of Philadelphia reported early. That's it. Like they reported like 30% you know they reported like 25 to 30% of the votes out of those two areas which are hard hard blue The big fun the big fun in Pennsylvania is going to be as the rest of the state starts to come in again let's see have they updated philadelphia and no they haven't philadelphia is still sitting at 17% reported like are you kidding me come on give us the numbers they're holding on to these they're holding on to these numbers because they always do this they don't want to they you know they want to find out what what it is they need to manufacture. That's the way these things are.
Starting point is 00:17:25 That's the way their boat cheating operation works. Okay, so let me pick your brain on this for a second. Well, before we hop there too, sorry, apologies. Scott, I said at the top of the hour, I was going to let you go. Do you want to hang out for a few minutes or do you have? This is even better than the reporting that I would be watching. Perfect. Well, then we'll keep adding people like, because this is what happens.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I'm like, in the back of my brain, I'm like, do I need to? I've only got about 40 minutes or so because I've got, we're doing a Twitter space at 10 o'clock where where alcohol will start the flow. And then, you know, Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:02 No, we don't, we don't agree with smoking or, or drinking on this show whatsoever. Carry on. Can I just ask you. You invited me on, Sean, and you should know what's going to happen next. Can ask a question about Florida? Sure. Fire away, Scott. Is that electronic voting in Florida? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 absolutely it is it's all scantron ballot it's complete but voter ID scantron ballots with you know hard ballots right like so we we we bubble in a paper ballot we don't have like touch screens we have a hard paper ballot we run it through the scantron machine and so they can do a hand count recount of the entire state yeah the interesting part about this is you have to realize what they're doing the real vote cheating operation now is not oh well let's just print up a bunch of ballots and throw them in there. No, what they're doing is they're, they're local, they're, they're, they're co-locate, they're, they're putting all these illegal immigrants in these zip codes that they're targeting. These people aren't actually voting. Like, they don't know what the hell's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:04 They give them enough right. They have them to speak the language. Then they print a ballot for them, harvest the ballot, fill the ballot out and send it in. And then it's, and then who can, who can say that these people didn't vote. And then they can, and that's how they can sit there and say, well, we didn't, there's no cheating involved. That's the, that's the, plausible than liability. That's the real cheat mechanism. And that's the thing we have to really, you know, I don't know how you beat that
Starting point is 00:19:29 if you can beat that. So, you know. That's why I'm asking you what kind of ballots you have down in Florida. Well, before there any questions get asked, I can see Stephen Murray sitting in the background. So let's bring in a former information warfare officer and cyber defense
Starting point is 00:19:45 battalion commander. I'm talking about retired lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray. So Stephen Murray, thanks for hopping There he is. Hey, man. No worries, Sean. Good see you. Yeah, great to see everybody.
Starting point is 00:19:56 This is, this is, I don't know, two Canadians doing, I'm just, I just sat here and run the cameras. Hey, that's right. Well, I mean, you're talking about Russian camp ring. We might as well have Canadians doing our thing to. Well, first off, we both have American misses. And secondly, Dwight David Eisenhower was my great grandmother's first cousin. So I'm kind of, you know, loosely associated.
Starting point is 00:20:21 with this thing going on down in the south you guys have. No, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt the conversation. I could just see guys hanging out in the background. I'm like, I'm just add them to this insanity and allow it to continue to percolate. So carry on, gents. I just saw Steve sitting in the background. I wanted to bring them in. Okay, well, then I'll...
Starting point is 00:20:46 So nobody's going to continue the conversation. I'm sorry, I was just checking the map. I, you know, like, it's like, what am I going to do? it's like well it's like it's like yeah 120 is where it goes to 99 for trump right now yeah so CNN has him is 154 versus 27 for Kamala Harris now that's going to change for her very very quickly new work is going to you know get called really soon and new jersey is always is always strangely um competitive up until the last minute as well because this is the way like every state has its own rhythm to how they report
Starting point is 00:21:22 but one of the things Steve I was talking about before you came on was that of how they they'll report a whole bunch of like a big blob of like Atlanta votes and then they'll wait to see how many you know what happens in the rural parts of the of the state and then they oh we need to print up another 157 thousand ballots in Fulton County and dump them on the market before they they update anymore so like Fulton County's been sitting a 72% reported now for over an hour right um and um and um that this is all very this is all part of the game that they play to see if they can actually manufacture the votes they need. So we'll see what happens. Okay. Well, here's a question for you. But Trump is up 245,000 votes in Georgia. So there may not be 245,000 votes net in that area. And then once they know that what that math looks like, that's when they'll call the state.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Right. Yeah. How come Maryland's been called already, according to the AP? despite the fact that it's got 1% reporting and Trump is winning because they did an exit poll and they know full well that Maryland's going to go 7030. Okay. It's the same thing. It's the same like them dumb like anybody trying to say that Iowa was in place. Trump's going to win Iowa by eight points.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Like like fuck off with all that bullshit. You know what I mean like? Seriously. It's all just silly nonsense like the idea that Trump's going to lose Iowa. You know, he's I was never in place. but they always like make the idea they always like make people think it's in play Ohio's good
Starting point is 00:22:59 Ohio's going to be the interesting part and I think this Senate race in Ohio that's actually the most important thing there because the Moreno can pull off the Sherrod Brown the flip on Sherrod Brown which as of right now it looks like he could do it depends on how big Trump's coattails are
Starting point is 00:23:15 you could flip two seats here West Virginia and Ohio and that would be really significant Ted Cruz is going to win And, you know, I'm not really worried about the rest of it. Chad Cruz, classic Canadian. Oh, we do care about the down ballot, Tom. The down ballot is, yeah, I would say the down ballots more important than POTUS is at this point.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, it's incredibly important. Yeah, you talked about cheating before. And I've operated under the premise that 2020 was not about POTUS. It was about the down ballot because they installed Mark Kelly. And Mark Kelly, nobody voted for him. although you can make the case that McSally was too much of a shrub for people to vote for a second time when she took over. So there is a case to be made there. However, comma.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You talked about cheating earlier. So I'll give you the 4-1-1 on Arizona and how it went down in 22. In 22, actually in 2020, they changed from PC, from precincts to polling stations. So you can vote anywhere in the state now. As long as you have your picture ID, you can vote you're in the state. That was a Katie Hobbs thing. And now in 22, I was literally in line. I went to four different polling stations because the lines were like three, four hours long.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And I watched the same people, the exact same people, go from polling station and polling station and walk in with fistfuls about bags of ballots, the same four people, all four places, which is highly illegal, just to say the least. But what they've done since then is, like Tom was saying, they've brought illegals in, they have given them driver's license, which automatically registers them to vote, giving them a fictitious address, like a stadium,
Starting point is 00:25:06 you know, a park somewhere. Wrigley Field, famously from the Blues Brothers. Then they fly them out and they use the vote. And that's the first way. The second way is they've tainted the voter rolls, which there was a judgment. down here. They had to clean up the voter rolls. And there's no way they can do it in two days.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Are you talking about Virginia? No, I'm talking about Arizona. So in Arizona, they've done every form of cheating you can think of. They've registered illegals. They've tainted the voter rolls. They've changed the precincts. They ballot harvested. You could go by the numbers. I mean, it's comprehensive. Tom's right. What they do here is Adrian Fontes came out and said, not even a week ago. It's going to take us 14 to 16 days to count ballots. Isn't that what the machines are for? Aren't the machines supposed to help count faster? Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:56 You scan the ballot in the machine and it counts everything right there and tallies it up, which shouldn't be connected to the internet, by the way, which they are. So he says it's going to take 14 to 16 days. So somewhere in March or April of 25 will have a result for Arizona. And it's because I guess it's hard to go one, two, three. I don't know. Well, then, you know, and then we find out that like, you know, let's go back to 2020 where, you know, they just dumped 250,000 votes on, you know, on Biden in, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:31 a four-hour period. And it takes, you know, it would take nine hours to, whatever it was that, you know, it would take nine hours to scan that many ballots in that many, you know, in that amount of time with the number of machines that they had. It's all bullshit. Like they just made up a number and they reported it and they dared us all this. And then then it gets proven. Like, you know, and no one goes to jail.
Starting point is 00:26:55 No one, you know, no. Well, they get to get the fucking gold watch for Christ's sake, these people. Like, it's, it's pathetic. It's beyond pathetic, to be honest with you. So, hey, gents, um, as we're talking, we got the host of, uh, coffee and a Mike podcast sitting in the background. He's sitting in Arizona. Why don't we bring them in?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Uh, hey, Mike. How's it going tonight? Good. How are you guys? What's up, Steve? I ain't drinking yet. That's such a 10. Mike's 20 minutes away from me, Sean.
Starting point is 00:27:22 We're both in Arizona. Fair enough, Steve. This is, you know, like when I'm planning this out, I'm like, oh, my God, this is going to be, this is going to be something. It's like a cast of characters all mingling together. So I'm interested. Carry on, gents. I just thought I would add in another guy who's sitting in the background and add him to this. Mike, I guess maybe I should just start this way.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Anything you want to add to this conversation as it's unfolding? Yeah, I was just, I mean, Steve and I were actually talking on the phone about this last night. And just real quick, sorry, Tom, I didn't mean to interrupt you. But we were just, we were talking about this last night. Why should anybody expect a different outcome here, especially in Arizona where we live? Like, nothing has changed. Stephen Ricker is still the recorder in Maricopa County. You've got the attorney.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And I literally just did a podcast. I put it out earlier with an editor from American Thinker where she was talking how Arizona, you know, they shot down some types of cheating in the court system. I said, okay, that's all great and all. But you've got to have an attorney general that's willing to enforce it. Well, Steve,
Starting point is 00:28:28 am I right? This attorney general is not going to enforce anything. Oh, no. Chris Mays is going to go after anybody who challenges the election. She's already said that, right? She went after all the Trump lawyers, et cetera. So, yeah, fights on, man. Yeah, my friend,
Starting point is 00:28:41 Christina Bob, I mean, she's looking at, I don't know how many felony charges she was indicted on. The trial starts in January of 26 because she was an attorney for 2020 in 2020 for Trump, challenging the election. How dare she? Rudy Giuliani, there was, I don't know how many, 10 of them, 14 of them that were named in Arizona. She doesn't even live here. She lives in Florida. Yeah, they're using lawfare and every. And Mark Elias was down here when after a case of Cochise County because the Port of Supervisors
Starting point is 00:29:13 after 22 voted that they would do hand counts after every election. Of course, Mark Elias went down there and used the legal system to say that that was unconstitutional. How dare you hand count ballots? You have the machines that are right from Venezuela that are so secure. So counting ballots by hand is unconstitutional because, you know, the founding father is obviously all used dominion voting. It's a racist. look like you know sorry where did that even come from at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:29:46 at the end of the day we know what they're going to do we know what they're going to do we know how they're going to do it then the question is will it matter if they can't manufacture the numbers that's really what it comes down to oh absolutely Tom
Starting point is 00:30:00 you know and then guys like Mark Elias Steve you know as far you know as well as I do are literally going to go this route because they don't have any other option because they know full well that the hammer of God's coming down on them if they lose this election. The stench of desperation from these people is so vivid. It comes right through the internet connection.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I mean, people tell me all the time, like, dude, you can wear the same shirt to every podcast because we can't smell you through the microphone. I'm like, well, I can smell Mark Elias every time I see him. Like, you know, you can just tell. And so I haven't started drinking yet, Mike, it's only going to get better from here. I know, the visuals are right there.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm jumping on your live stream later. I'll be out there watching. We'll be on Twitter. It'll be a blast. Like, you know, Nexter's going to bring the acoustic guitar. We're going to, like, kind of hang out and play I want to be sedated.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Like, it's going to be hilarious. So, I'm not like we're going to be professionals or anything. Come on. Let's, let's, I literally just got the text and Dexter. We should start a little early and I'll just play music beforehand into the microphone. Like, fine. I'm a terrible acoustic guitar player, so I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:15 What am I going to play comfortably numb? Well, I can honestly say, though, that Arizona is a red state. It is not a blue state. Of course. And there was a, so I was told two years ago now, yeah, two, two and a half years ago, that there was a five-year plan to turn Arizona blue. And it looked like they were going to be. effective at it.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I'll make a prediction that Arizona will be so close, so close, but it'll go to Harris because it was so close. It's exactly what they did to Carrie Lake. I don't see Carrie Lake. They're not going to let Carrie Lake step in office. They're not going to let Abe Homiday step in office. And they're going to install Gallego, who is a card carrying communist. He has come out and said he's a communist.
Starting point is 00:32:03 They're going to install him right next to Mark Kelly, who's owned by the Communist Chinese, party. So I can tell you how it's going to go with Arizona. I'm hoping that the sum total of all the other states that turn red carry Trump over the 270 mark. Because the reality is they've set conditions where nobody's going to buy the outcome of the election. The left's not going to buy it, and the right's definitely not going to buy it. And, you know, I think it's going to be hard for them to obisgate the numbers this time because I could tell you I early voted here, which I never do. And it was busy all week last week with people voting early because they didn't want to wait to election day and vote.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And today it was busy all day and it's probably still busy right now. And the polls close in like 45 minutes. So I would venture a guess that it's going to be very, very close and they'll come up with the ballots to sender over the top and then either the court battle start or the civil war starts take your pig um you guys uh yeah mike i'm sorry um steve that's really that's that's important just a quick update on atlanta as we were talking earlier they've updated fulton county it's not the 78% reported trump is up 250 000 in georgia um the colb county is 64% um gwynett is the big one they haven't moved in hours at 16%.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So and Cobb counties at 78%. So there's not a whole lot of ballots left for them to harvest. And there's still at least eight counties. No, one, two, three, four, five, seven, like 10 counties that haven't even reported. And they're all rural counties that are all going to go like 70, 30 Trump. So I don't know. Georgia's looking solid here. And he's up about 200 and sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:56 He was up about 20,000 votes in Virginia. Nope. That's the Senate race. Yeah, he's up about 20,000 boats in Virginia. Virginia and yeah, I don't know. I haven't looked at, I haven't updated that map yet either. But I'm using CNN,
Starting point is 00:34:09 FYI, I'll be honest with you. I think CNN always has the best coverage, because they have, you know, they have the best coverage to drill into on a county by county basis and all that. So just to give you an idea.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, I just like the, Paul, I just like the visuals. This is the Canadian, Tom, looking at, looking for the best maps
Starting point is 00:34:26 that break it down, they give me the visual of like, oh, that's, that's what's happening right now. And it's confirming all the numbers, you're, thrown out about all the different places.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It doesn't go as in depth, but for the average listener who turns in, it gives you a pretty clear indication of where everything sits. Anyways, that's the reason I got the map chosen. And so it is another interesting thing. And I want the Steve or Mike, if you guys want to chime in on this. There was a, I was talking to my wife earlier and she mentioned that there was a report that just came out that I,
Starting point is 00:35:00 they've admitted that they fucked up to 2020 census. and that Florida should have 32 electoral votes. And that New York and one other state should have lost one. And guess what? If you do the, if you go do a 270 to win map where you take out Wemipo, that's Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and you give everything else that would normally be, you know, what Trump needs, you realize that Nevada, which is probably going to go Trump,
Starting point is 00:35:25 with Florida having 32, like Nevada, if he takes Arizona and, and all the other states he should take, plus Nevada, that would be 270 if Ford was at 2. It was at 32 because at Ford at 30, it's only 268. Now, guess what? That was fucking game planned. Oh, absolutely. Isn't it funny how it always seems to go in one way when they make mistakes?
Starting point is 00:35:49 I want to point something note here. I was checking out the CNN map here. And the thing about it is you can check the 2020 election results. And they're, you know, CNN known for stretching the truth, fairly regular. I think we could all say, but here they're accidentally being honest when they're saying that Kamala Harris won the 2020 election. Yeah. You know, we're just at that point. So it's always hilarious just to watch this play itself out.
Starting point is 00:36:25 But nothing changes. And the funny part about this is that, you know, I was, before you guys, before Mike, you and Steve topped on, I was telling them about Florida and how Florida used to vote, right? It used to be, right? We'd get everything would come in and then Miami-Dade, Broward, and West Palm would stop counting at about 75%. And then the panhandle will come in. And then they'd manufacture the votes they needed out of those three counties. Since they cleaned that whole process up, got rid of, you know, Brenda Snipes and Broward and all the rest of them, and then went to the most secure.
Starting point is 00:36:58 We have the most secure voting in Florida, in the United States in Florida. I'm going to give it to you. What's that? I'm going to give it to you, but remember, Siss is still out there, too, and they can still hit the machines. So the other thing that we didn't talk about is that it bears repeating. By the way, there's only one rule here.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Can't be more bitter than I am. That's the only rule we have tonight, right? So let's just keep that in mind. Tom, you can hit the guard rails, but you can't go over the guardrail. I have to bounce back onto the, you got to get back on the freeway and keep going. You can take some tents, but you can't be more better.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I'm the only guy that could go off the rails. The interesting thing about this is that SISA was supposed to be monitoring external influences. So I'm curious to see what that's going to say for Dade County and Broward County. Well, that'll be very interesting to see what reporting comes out of that. Is they're going to blame something on Russia? Because there's no way that Dade County could go for Trump, too blue. It went 11 points, dude. I know it, too.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Because it's really important. The Cubans are all like, Osceola County went for Trump. The Puerto Ricans voted for Trump. Yeah. Okay. Like, there's nothing they can do.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It's bulletproof. Like, the numbers are overwhelming. I mean, it was just insane. I looked at those numbers and I was like, holy, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:23 I've been watching for politics forever in a day. I'm like, okay, I'll watch what county. The people's Republic of Lachua County with 62, 38 for Kamala Harris, what a shock. Okay, but, you know, who cares? Like, Ocala went 65, 35,
Starting point is 00:38:36 Trump, so they cancel each other out. But Miami? No, West Palm only went two points for Kamala Harris. Now, I'm sorry, but the Russians are good, but they don't have that much control. Like, West Palm was not, Broward was only 6040. And I don't even, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Well, I was going down the road if they're already starting to build the narrative that Russia's interfering, right? which is not real. Well, doesn't that lend itself to imply that it's going to go in favor of Trump then? Because they're not going to say that there's Russian interference if they're planning on actually being able to find enough ballots to win. Well, and that's the question of the night, right? I'm too hesitant to say that I'm getting my hopes up because it's way too early to make any kind of presumption.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Of course. that, you know, because we, remember, we all watch 2020. We're in the middle of the night. They literally stopped the county. We woke up and Trump was down by like two million votes. So we were all like, wait, what happened? And, you know, shame on us for not paying attention. You guys got a lot on the curve.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So, Steve, it was interesting. I was live streaming that night. And I was quite drunk by the time it was done. And we were all celebrating. But then I cut the stream off at about 12.30. And then I sat there at my desk at about 2 a.m. And I watched the votes, counts, stop. And then I did a 270 to win map.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And I looked it all over and I went at 2 a.m. And I went and I texted Dexter and I said, they're going to steal this. This is what they're going to do. This is their plan. And I went boom, boom, boom, boom, even if they only do a 271 to 269. I laid that map out. And I said they're going to steal this. We're going to wake up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And everything they said they were going to do, they're going to do. And his text reply to me was, civil war is that. Yep. And the next day, when they started doing it, and they did the fraud, I wrote that. That's the name. That was the name of my next blog post. I literally said that then and there, they have declared civil. They have declared that, you know, they would rather break the country up. And that was the moment when I started down the rabbit hole of, okay, so Europe and the Brits are desperately trying to break the United States up. And that's when all of everything that you guys like know me for as a as a commentator, it all happened that night when I saw that happen at 2 a.m. And then I couldn't go to
Starting point is 00:41:07 sleep. I didn't get to sleep about 4.30 because I was like, oh, okay. And then I scheduled a trip to Mexico for January 6th. So it wasn't even in the country. I literally, we spent we spent Christmas in Mexico. I mean, you wouldn't have been the first person who got prosecuted without being there. That's literally what I was thinking at that point. Do I even want to come back from the trip? That's serious. Well, yeah, you're not the only one, Tom.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I had a buddy of my call me. He's still in the system in the Beltway and called me. So are you coming out for January 6th? I went, there's no way. I'll be on the ground for that. You already know how that's going to go. And he said, yep. So we knew exactly how it was going to go before it.
Starting point is 00:41:52 even happen. Again, this is not bitterness, by the way. This is, this is talking the guys in the system that saw what I saw. And anytime you get that number of people, first of all, I think the sheer volume of people who showed up on January 6th scared the hell out of everybody in D.C. Because there was millions of people on the ground. That was unprecedented. All the way back to the 60s, it was unprecedented. And then the second thing was they were peaceful, which they couldn't allow that to happen. So we'll see which way it goes tonight, but it's too early to call anything to say that he's up, he's up, you know, to at least a commanding lead. But I can tell you the numbers of people that voted in this election will far outweigh any election previous to this. People were
Starting point is 00:42:39 showing up. In fact, I had calls all day from people that were asking me where to go vote and how to go vote because they hadn't voted before and they were going to go vote for Trump. And they were going to go vote for Trump because they didn't want to, they don't want to see Harrison in the office. So I should tell you that even people that are on the fence went out and voted. So that's encouraging, right?
Starting point is 00:43:01 It is encouraging. Florida is going to go plus 14 for Trump. Okay? Plus 14. That's an 89% counted and he's up by 14, almost 14 points, by a million and a half. He's up, he's up 800,000 votes in Texas with 64% voted. He's up 10 points in Texas.
Starting point is 00:43:19 He's up 10 points in Ohio. Sounds like North Carolina was just called for Trump. It should be because he's up 4%. He's up by 4 points with 55% voted. Hey, Tommy, you know when you talk over my head right now, I'm like, you're saying things and you got a Canadian sitting here going, why is that such a big deal? Tell me why 14 points in Florida is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And, you know, because as of two election cycles ago, Florida was supposedly a battleground state that was purple. okay Texas they've been like busing the legales in for 10 for 20 years to get to turn Texas red uh blue okay Ohio Ohio is flipped back and forth
Starting point is 00:44:02 and like Ohio was the um it however Ohio went used to be if Ohio whoever Ohio was the bellwether if Ohio went blue then they were the Democrat was probably going to win like it's not really that anymore it's turned into Pennsylvania but you know, Ohio any more than three points. Remember, it was Bush, Bush v. Gore was over Ohio and Florida. Right. Or, yeah, 2000 more. Bush Kerry was over Ohio. Bush v. Gore was over Florida. Remember, these are the elections. These are the pivotal elections, the states. Like, so to see them break this hard, like, no one had Trump plus 14 in Florida. They had them plus seven.
Starting point is 00:44:45 okay and why are you thinking that nevada who has never gone trump is going to be trump because all the red because all the red staters from california moved before i moved to and the pollsters will pick that up and then and people didn't vote in the last cycle right they didn't vote in 22 and they didn't vote in 20 a lot of people didn't vote in 2020 i can tell you that this cycle people that weren't even on the fence about voting are voting because Because they, look, the short answer is most Americans have figured out that this is an existential crisis for the country. And it has nothing to do with Trump. It has nothing to do with Harris.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's all about the illegals. They know if they don't show up, their vote's going to go to somebody else. And you called a scare attack, a Kassaiop, whatever. But it was highly effective to get people off the couch and go vote. And if that's the case, great. because we've never seen numbers like this in any county. And that's unprecedented in our history. Because look, conservatives are by a large, you know, apathetic when it comes to voting.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And Democrats are not. Anybody that's a liberal, they are called to action. They all move in unison. And you know their base is going to show up no matter how terrible the candidate is. I mean, look at Harris. Everybody in her own party hates her so much they hate her more than Hillary Clinton. But they're still turning out to vote for. That sounds a little extreme.
Starting point is 00:46:13 No, it's true. That's true. It's absolutely correct. He's correct on this. Absolutely. It looks like Brinemarino is going to be, is going to win, is going to be Sherrod Brown, by the way. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:27 That's going to be, that's going to be two. He's up a, he's up a hundred and, he's up 150,000 votes to 60% in, and Trump's gotten huge coattails in Ohio, possible down ballot stuff. I haven't even looked at the house yet. that's two flips on the on on on the on the Senate minimum he could they could do better than that let's hope they do yeah
Starting point is 00:46:49 let's hope they have they have to they have to they need 54 in the Senate to even have a real majority because you've got romney Collins and merkowski and those fucking people are they're all fucking Democrats if if Trump wins this and there's they're all going to flip Romney's going to leave the fucking party and then they're going to have to shoot him in in in Utah
Starting point is 00:47:07 or you know whether or the fuck he's from and uh and, you know, and then appoint somebody else, which is what should happen to it because he's a fucking traitor. So, you know, whatever. I am not advocating violence, folks, just saying, you know, like people in Utah aren't stupid. They know what to do. Well, remember, Trump's going to round everybody up and put them all in camp, so they all need to, they all need to run in high. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's what they want to do to us. Yeah. That's exactly what they're going to do to us. Dude, I was in Washington over the weekend, right? And literally in Washington State, two different times of the freeway, I'm seeing all these FEMA trailers. And they're huge trailers. I'm telling you, what are they doing in Washington? There's absolutely positively no reason for them to be there, right?
Starting point is 00:48:01 They should be in North Carolina. But at least three convoys of FEMA trailers, I'm like, you know, what's that all about? But yeah, they're telling us what they're going to do, right? And today, Jen Saki says the First Amendment could apply to disinformation too. Oh, okay. So there we go. There it is. The disinformation czar is going to come out of the woodwork if they elect this woman.
Starting point is 00:48:24 So that's going to be a great time to be alive right now. Do you think he's going to go back to working for the government? Well, that's the short answer is yes, because that's a, That's how the game's played, right? They bounced back and forth between public and private. And they have public-private partnerships. That's how the game's played. And I would see her going back.
Starting point is 00:48:50 If Harris goes, I see her going back as a cabinet member for a short period of time. But absolutely. Why not? Well, I don't know. I mean, she's getting paid. She's front and center all the time. She's getting plenty of prime time coverage. Yeah, but someone with her wants power.
Starting point is 00:49:10 yeah thank you i was just going to go there and you know that there's more money in there's more money with the gold watch and and the book deal afterwards okay then there is working for cnn or pmsmbc or whatever wow they just called texas for trump yeah duh they called oh oh oh CNN has it. Yeah, CNN has him. He's up 11. I mean, 62% in, and they've already called it. I mean, he's up 30,000 votes and 13% in in Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So. Are you guys confident that he's going to win right now based on what the data that's out there? No. No. No. If Virginia falls to Trump, this election is over. I think it's all about Virginia. because if he wins any one of the three,
Starting point is 00:50:08 Wimipa and Virginia, forget it, it's over. It doesn't matter what happens out West. Then they know that. You said one of the three, so what, Wisconsin, Virginia, Pennsylvania? No, no, one of Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania, and Virginia, two of those four, he wins.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Virginia plus one of those three, he wins. There's no way to beat him. There's no way to, there's no path. Arizona, Nevada doesn't matter at that point. Nope. Arizona doesn't matter at that point. I don't think he's going to win Virginia. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm just saying that, you know, we got 40% of the way to go in Virginia. He's up by 17,000. He's up by, well, yeah, he's up by 18,000 votes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What about it's tight? It shouldn't even be tight, guys. At this point, Virginia should have already been called. That's the point. He's up by, he's up by more than that, Tom. My number show is up by.
Starting point is 00:51:04 CNN's got the updated. I'm looking where CNN, I'm looking where Tom's looking at his math chat. out. Yeah, I mean, I can do math. Like, I'm really good at that. The superpower I really have is being able to be like three by three. You know, I get three by three and three by three by three division and multiplication of my fucking head for Christ thing.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'm really good at it. It's a fresh. It's refreshing to know that the infamous American education system hasn't let everybody know. Are you guys ready for this one? We're good at math, guys. That's probably set, too, or not the American education system. What are you guys? This was just reported on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Maricopa County printers ran out of ink. They can't print anymore. Wait, let me go get some. I think I can see. Unbelievable. That's in Arizona? Oh, yeah. Every bit of malfeasance they could pull out of the drawer they're using.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Programmatic failures of machines. The printer paper was off. The ballots were off. Now the printers are out of, about a bank, man. You can't make it up. The bomb threats in Georgia were the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I just keep waiting to see Bill Belichick enter politics. That would be perfect. I'd like see Nick Saban, man. Nick Saber would bomb everybody. He'd destroy everybody until they're completely annihilated. Unbelievable. Okay, so to give you an idea how big a red ass beatdown it was in Florida. Osceola went plus 14 for Trump, Osceola County, plus 14 for Biden in 2020.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Trump won it. Hillsborough and Duval, which is Tampa and Jacksonville, also flipped. Like we have the only urban centers in the country that voted red because we have a secure election. Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville. the only cities worth of shit in Florida that went blue were the two big college towns Tallahassee and Gainesville, West Palm barely and old Jewville Broward and all the Jews and all the old Jews are dying off and they're being replaced.
Starting point is 00:53:25 And they're being replaced by, I'm telling you, they're being replaced by base black guys. Orlando. He's awesome. like it's insane like people have no idea what's happened in florida like when i say that if the country has to split it starts there
Starting point is 00:53:43 starts here it's it's it's it's florida there's your map okay but i think orlando orlando so well orlando is both orange and osceola so oceola is to the south of what you see in blue for orlando is orange county but where's the where's the split in florida that you're describing night and there's Osceola right below it. There you go.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Okay, there's what, five counties? It used to be seven or not. It used to be like nine or ten. It's now five. I mean, look at that. That's Osceola County for Christy. Jesus Christ, that's insane. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Illinois went for Harris. Well, of course. That's Illinois. It's the center of voterly, vote often. How is Pennsylvania only 31% reported right now? What is?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Pennsylvania. Because they're still cheating in Pittsburgh. They're still cheating. They have to cheat their asses up in Philadelphia because the rest of the state's red. Have you guys been following
Starting point is 00:54:51 Polymarket at all? Throughout this? Throughout the lead up? Well, so it's basically you more or less bet on who you think you want to win. And you got a bet with crypto.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And it went right through the roof in the last couple days. Yeah. Like we were talking about it a few weeks ago on the mashup and we're like, oh, it's a little close, whatever else. And then now like literally in the last day, it went, it jumped 20% for Trump. So that's everybody thinking they can cash in and make some money. And, you know, Everybody wants to speculate here and there,
Starting point is 00:55:35 but the people who were literally putting their, well, crypto, they're putting their crypto where their mouth is. And it's almost 80% Trump. Yep. I had a lot of people tell me, I had a lot of people trying to tell me that it was going to be,
Starting point is 00:55:51 it was going to be a Harris, everything was going to break Harris at some point. And I'm like, yeah, that's nice. Jill Stein doesn't even show up on that graph. Yeah, no, Jill Stein or Chase Oliver.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Let's, Let's let's not talk about things that matter. Let's not talk about things that don't matter. You know, the funny thing is, is that Chase isn't even hardly, he's not doing any better in New Hampshire than he is any other states either. Are they really projecting
Starting point is 00:56:16 that Nebraska is going to go blue, really? No. They're not projecting anything. That's just the current vote totals. There's no way. Like, no, Nebraska is like 62.38. Yeah. It's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It's not even. close. If we had a viable, we had a viable libertarian actually running in this country, like in places like Idaho and Wyoming and whatnot, if the libertarian actually ran hard, like properly actually spent all of their money, they could come in second in those states. I don't know. There's a lot of California man buns and I don't. A lot of beta cucks up there. Let's just take a moment to appreciate the fact that man bun is a complete misnomer. No, it's not. There's nothing manly about it.
Starting point is 00:57:08 No. Guys, how is Michigan at 14% right now? 14%. Well, they have a lot of work to do out there. Yeah. It's 940. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And everybody knows they're going to go blue. They don't even, they're not even looking at as a battleground state anymore. Well, I mean, it's, again, it's like everything else. It's not, it's about the, it's about the cheating. It's about the industrial strength cheating. And that's the way that, that works. So, um, let's see. George is up to 77% reported and Trump is up by 220 grand.
Starting point is 00:57:54 North Carolina should be called any time now. Virginia, he's still up by 22,000 votes. They're just trickling in. But it's like this in Virginia. It's still closer in Virginia than it's. been in the past. So it's interesting what's happening. And then, you know, I don't know, Wisconsin is going to be the interesting part. Do you think, what about it? I don't think so. I think Wisconsin they're going to pull out the cheat again. Well, they can try. I can,
Starting point is 00:58:24 they can try, but it's, it comes down to Madison's already 45% reported. Milwaukee is already 42% reported, Steve. And half the state hasn't reported anything yet. So you're already. already at half of the two big red, the two big blue centers where they would cheat in those two areas in Wisconsin. And so like, I don't know, man. Like, it's, it's a, it's, it's possible. Like, it's very possible. I love that kiddie optimism. I'm going to stay simple. I'm just doing math here. Like, it just comes down to real math. Like, no, we don't do real math here, man. Common core. Come in town. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Okay, okay. They would have to, if these guys, okay, look at the numbers in Wisconsin as of right now. Go to go to Wisconsin. Look at Milwaukee County, right? She's got, she's up by 70,000 votes with 42% reported. Take those numbers and multiply them out. And that's another plus 80,000 votes for her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Do the same thing in, in Madison. And so another 75,000 or another 80,000. votes all he has to do is win the rest of the state by 170 grand and they're fucked that's it because it's not like that we're not already at 75 or 80 percent voter turnout with those with numbers like that so at some point you can't report 114 percent you know voter turnout yeah there must be that's not going to fly this time and unfortunately we're going to have to go I got to get I got to get out of here you guys take care um Tom thanks for hop on and do the thing so you guys be well take care we'll talk soon thanks so
Starting point is 01:00:10 Tom I got I got to go to guys thanks thanks for nice to hang out with you I'm going to take off as well thanks everybody I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding so does Georgia appear that it's going to Trump am I am I understanding that right is still a long way to go. So Georgia's 52-47 and what do you have? 79% votes in.
Starting point is 01:00:43 So yeah, Kamala's got a lot of ground to make up in only 21% left to report for that to work. So I don't know if they've called it or not, but it's getting pretty close.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I can't see well, I don't know. I'm not an American. but I would say that just same thing like Tom was saying mathematically speaking they've basically got to they've got to come out
Starting point is 01:01:17 probably 70% of the next votes have to come out for for Kamala and and the only ones that haven't reported anything yet are you know not in major centers
Starting point is 01:01:33 jens are like super delayed just curious Yeah, you're a little delayed. I'll be right back. Steve, what do you think? I mean, is it apparent that Georgia's going to go to Trump? I'm not going to say definitively anything right now because remember, there's still 20% of the vote. And if she takes 80% of that, he loses Georgia.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And remember, in 2020, it was a very, very close count, like 10,000, 20,000 votes. It was not a significant number. So this is what I was talking about earlier, that they make it look like it's really close. But, you know, Atlanta and in Savannah, you know, you're seeing the cheating mechanisms at work, right? That's what Tom was talking about. They do the pause, the pause, and then they continue. Once they get enough votes injecting into the system, that's exactly what I see them doing right now. Well, Savannah's only reported 25%.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And some areas around Atlanta are around 82 or even up to 93, but there's one called Gwynett that's only 16. Yeah. And there you go. You got to, this will sound cynical, but it is. You have to assume that they've planned this out, that this was a very, very coordinated effort to do this if they're going to squeak a win in. And first of all, I don't think anybody's going to buy it, but because of the record number of voters. So I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll give him Georgia and they'll give him the win. But I'm going to wait and see how Wisconsin comes out, how Minnesota comes out, and how Georgia comes out.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Virginia, I think, is going to go blue. I don't think there's, knowing the demographic there and knowing how many the Beltway bandits, live in northern Virginia and how heavily blue it is, I highly doubt the Trump will win that. It's getting pretty tight right now. They're within 27,000 votes, and it's just, it's not even two-thirds done yet. Why hasn't anybody in this group mentioned Arizona so far tonight? Well, we talked about Arizona earlier, right? They said they were going to take, you know, 14 to 16 days to count the votes.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah, but in terms of what you think would be happening, I guess. Sorry. Sorry, I should have, you know, like, it's not, you know, we're talking about all the chicanery and all the different ways that, that things aren't on the up and up, or at least there's opportunities for things not to be on the up and up. But how do you think it will be going? There's no way they're going to get Arizona to Trump. There's no way. No way. No way. They're not going to give it to Lake. They're not going to give it to Abe Holiday. Lakes running again? Yeah, she's running for Senate. She's running for Senate. She's running against Gallego. There's no way that she's going to win.
Starting point is 01:04:36 There's no pathway for her to get there. I mean, even Steve, if I could add that, even when you're looking at the top part of that from the Senate standpoint, you know, cursing cinema, and I have to wonder, maybe Steve, you might have some insider thoughts. Why did she drop out and decide not to run again? I mean, she's young. And, you know, when independent had like a had momentum, seemed like momentum going and a lot of leverage, she decides to not seek re-election. Gallego and Carrie Laker going for that seed. Gallego to me is going to win. I think he's going to win it easily.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Well, where you'll see the numbers is in Pinalc County and Pima County, right? And Maricopa, too, right? And Maricopa, right. They'll make it look close, 10, 20,000 votes, but she'll ultimately lose. The guy who goes polling at like 10%, maybe 10%, same with Harris. This is a red state. but I know how the malfeasance is going to go. They're going to wait.
Starting point is 01:05:38 What they do is they wait for all the other counties to report. And then they report their numbers and it's super, super close, et cetera, et cetera. The only reason Carrie Lake won in the primaries was because all of the outlying counties held back their vote and forced Maricopa County to disclose their numbers on election night. That was the only reason that she won. And then after that, they took all the votes down to the to the M-TEC. And now they do everything at the M-TEC and centralize it. So what you'll see out of this is you'll see stuff come out of Runbeck, who is where all the ballots are basically congregate at Runback.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And then they go down to the M-Tac. That's their chain of custody. You're going to see some malfeasance there. You'll see some malfeasance at the M-Tec. I mean, what does it tell you that the Maricopa County Sheriff, puts hesco barriers around the m tech barbed wire fences and snipers on the roof i'm pretty sure there's nothing to see here okay so why aren't there scrutiners from both sides keeping tabs on these things sure okay so how what's their workaround for for something like that
Starting point is 01:06:56 well you just keep the you keep the observers far enough away and here's the other part of this so Gina Swoboda is the GOP representative. She replaced Kelly Ward as a GOP lead for Arizona. She's been working on election integrity for the last six months and nobody in the GOP has a clue what she's been doing. There was no, there's no instruct. Usually by this time in the process, right, the GOP leadership says for any discrepancies, any kind of any kind of questions, any reporting, this is how this is the process for that. None of that's been published. Nobody, nobody knows. what the process is if there's a discrepancy on the floor. Nobody knows what the process is if they see something that needs to be adjudicated. So there's a, there's all kinds of issues right now.
Starting point is 01:07:43 We just lack a process. And she's the GOP lead. So when you start looking at it from that perspective, yeah, there's people on the floor. But you can just like in in Michigan and some of the others, you move far enough back, they can't see what you're doing. And that's that's part of the plan if you go if you go back to i don't know three weeks ago when uh project veritas or sorry um what is omg what's it called okay okay media yeah did the the reporting on the training that they were getting basically everything that gets adjudicated goes the other way meaning it goes blue that's essentially what the the outcome of that was and he steven richter got called out for it is richer rick or rick or i don't know for he he's so
Starting point is 01:08:29 memorable. I keep forgetting his name. Ricker. And he got called out for it. And they did a big press circle in Arizona to try and mitigate the damage from it. Because it called him out directly that they were basically training all the poll workers how to cheat. And it's black and white. So the short answer is I don't see I don't see Trump win in Arizona.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I see it being very, very close. and Harris squeaks out a win. That's how we see it. And then the court cases start and we go back through all that. So, and that's, Mike, Michael tell you the same thing. We've had this conversation how many times, Mike? 10, 15 times now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:13 There's no pathway for Trump to win Arizona. And no job. Look, let me just say this before you jump in, Mike. I would love to be surprised tonight. I would love to. And, Sean, you, I briefed you some dates that I was wildly wrong about back in early October. So I'm hoping this is the same thing. I'm cautiously optimistic that's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:09:38 But we don't see any numbers out of Arizona. And there was massive early voting. I mean, unprecedented numbers of people early voting. We don't, there's no numbers reported for Arizona right now. Okay. And just to add to that, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine. I think Steve, you and I were talking about this last night, too. I mean, I saw it turning point where they chased a ballot initiative and Scott Presser was doing what he's doing in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:10:05 But if the legislatures aren't interested in making any changes, none of that's going to work. And I know like in Arizona, they weren't interested in that. They're just not. They have allowed all this to happen. This is a quote unquote Republican legislature in the state of Arizona. So for people that all of a sudden, I mean, they're like vote harder. I don't know what that means. They kept saying that.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Like, what does that mean? Early ballot, early voting. What is that going to do? Okay. Well, so are the people in? Oh, go ahead, Steve. I finally found a site that's reporting Arizona. I'm trying to pull the results up right now so far.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Okay. Well, you're pulling that up. I want to pick your brain here. So Arizona's ran by Republicans. Are they just rhinos or what? Well, the legislature is Republicans. Sorry, Steve. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:02 But the governor, the governor who was a secretary of state in 22, who certified her own election to become governor, Katie Hobbs. She's the one that beat Carrie Lake to become governor. Then you have Chris Mays, who's the attorney general, who's as liberal as it gets. And then Adrian Fontez, who's, was the secretary of state now that was katie obbs's old uh you know old position well he was a reporter before he was the right before he was the uh secretary state and before that he was a
Starting point is 01:11:33 cartel lawyer so i should tell you so so he worked in washington then sure sure yeah well and then the sheriff too right i his pen zone i think stepped down but paul pen zone i mean he was a soros appointed sheriff from Maricopa County. Yeah. So what we're circling around here is that we saw them, both of us have seen the malfeasance now for four years. And I have people on my team that were on the floor for the audit in 2021. And at that time, Karen Fan was president of the Senate here.
Starting point is 01:12:09 And she did everything she could to kill the, to kill the audit. And just the cursory review of the machines by Cyber Ninjas was, she, showed very, very graphically. And I'm a cyber guy, right? I've done cyber defense my whole career. And just a cursory forensics review of the server without any credentials, no admin passwords, nothing, just pulling the log files that they could see. They saw 800 anonymous connections into those Dominium machines on November 8th in 2022 and in 2020.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So they saw just a cursory review of the log files. they saw those connections. Anonymous connection means it's an external connection into that box from outside the country, outside the area code, etc. And those boxes aren't supposed to be exposed to the internet. The other thing they realized is that the Dominium machines, they have two different operating systems on it. And you can instantiate, meaning you can start both different operating systems to run together and you would never know it. The operator would never know that there's two operating systems running at the same time. And they, could do different things. And they figured out, again, through the log files, that they can,
Starting point is 01:13:25 their settings on the machine to do a weighted system. So if Trump gets one, Biden got one. If Trump got two, Biden got 2.2. And they showed all this stuff during the audit. And then two days later, Karen Fan signed an agreement for, with a special master that effectively killed the it and gave Maricopa County and out. And they were on the ropes, right? So where I'm going with this is the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors got a buy in 2020. And then Karen Fan left the Senate, Ben Toma steps in. And Ben Toma, not even two days into the job, was embroiled in a controversy because he basically was trying to train all the freshmen coming into the Arizona Senate and House to pay attention to the lobbyists and not their constituents. And then
Starting point is 01:14:16 that went viral in the state, et cetera, et cetera. So the short answer is, we have Republicans in charge of the Senate, but they're, they've done nothing in the last four years to solve the problem of election integrity. When they tried to pass a bill for voter ID to require voter ID, Ben Toma, the guy who's the president of Senate right now is the one who killed the bill. So they've done nothing to solve this problem. That's why Mike and I were saying, there's no pathway for, for Lake to win because these same people were in office when she was denied office in 22. And she won the election. It was a blowout, absolute blowout.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Barack Obama right now, jents, just tweeted, it took several days to count every ballot in 2020. It's very likely we won't know the outcome tonight either. So please keep a few things in mind as you make your voice heard today. Thousands of election workers around the country are working hard today. Respect them, thank them. Don't share things before checking your sources. let the process run its course.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It takes time to count every ballot. So there's Barack Obama setting maybe the stage for a few other things to go on here. I got a new guest sitting in the back I want to bring in. He's an internist cardiologist, epidemiologist holding degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan and Southern Methodist University. He manages common infectious diseases as well, the cardiovascular disease. complications of both the viral infection and injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine out of Dallas, Texas. I'm talking about Dr. Peter McKell-Kine. So Peter McCullough, thanks for hopping on
Starting point is 01:15:55 for a few minutes. Thank you. Happy election night. Everybody up there is watching closely, I assume. Well, you're joining quite the cast here. You've got two guys sitting in Alberta, and I know all of Canada pays attention to this. I mean, like, you know, what happens down there is going to dictate how North America proceeds for the next four years. And so it's hard not to pay attention. You got two guys on from Arizona, two Albertans, and now yourself from Dallas, Texas. So what have you made so far tonight, Peter, of everything going on in your state? Well, you know, Texas 40 electoral college votes.
Starting point is 01:16:33 So, you know, only, you know, only eclipsed by California has already been decided for Trump and in Texas is most similar to Alberta as a province. I've been to both places and I think they're very close, strongly independent. And what we're hoping for now is no matter what happens, we need to get new leadership on health care and public health. This sector, what we've seen, Sean, you and I have gone over it, has been weaponized against the citizens really over the last two administrations, and it's really going to be the key position in the United States is our Secretary of Health and Human Services, which is one of the 15 cabinet positions, and then the heads of the National Institutes of Health, the CDC, the U.S. FDA, and the U.S. Surgeon General.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I think those are all the power positions where I think we need a house cleaning and a new philosophy on public health for America. Before I let anyone else hop in here, I was just curious your thoughts. on RFK supporting Trump. Exactly where I was going to go with this. Just curious. And then by all means, everybody else can have their way with Peter before, you know, I don't know how much time you got for us tonight, Peter.
Starting point is 01:17:55 But I appreciate you giving us some time. Very much appreciated. You know, Robert F. Kennedy, swinging his support to Trump, I think in the last 60 days or so was huge. And I think it did bring Trump votes. And he broadly appeals to people who have general. concerns, not only regarding COVID-19 vaccines and pandemic response, but regarding, you know, issues of the health of children and families, the declining health of Americans.
Starting point is 01:18:24 By the way, the health of Canadians declining at about the same pace related to obesity, poor diets, the greater dependence on pharmaceuticals. Kennedy, through really a whole series of appearances and rallies, has brought that into an issue have concern. And he broadened the appeal. The interesting thing about Trump and kind of Trump 2.0 is he isn't picking people this time who have agreed with him or have praised him only as he did in his first administration. So for instance, J.D. Vance, the vice presidential pick, he was critical of Trump early on. Robert F. Kennedy, critical of Trump. Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, even Joe Rogan, who, you know, the last hour through his endorsement,
Starting point is 01:19:19 it really is kind of a dream team, if you will, right now that is with Team Trump. Yeah, they've got all the best people. I've got nothing but love for Tulsi Gabbard. She's going to be, I don't know, at least, wouldn't it be cool if she was the first female president down the road, right? Yeah, it's certainly possible. I mean, she's so well-spoken. She would be perfect for a cabinet position. You know, we do need, you know, we need leadership at Department of State, for instance.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Robert F. Kennedy is being discussed as Health and Human Services Director. And in the United States, our CDC, NIH, and FDA report to HHS. And right now it's Secretary Xavier Bashara. And to show you how distorted it is, you know, the second incumbent HHS. just right now, the assistant secretary, is actually Richard Levine. He's a man pretending to be a woman, Rachel Levine. And so he is a transgender advocate. Can you imagine that person had gotten himself that high up in health care? And right now, Levine is trying to overturn all the 25 statewide bans on transgender medicine and surgery for the youth. He's trying to take it to
Starting point is 01:20:42 a Supreme Court case and overturn all the bans, including the one we work so hard for in Texas. Well, I was wondering. What do you think his chances are going through with that? Oh, Levine's going to go through. I appeared on Fox News and this was presented and I had assisted Ken Paxton, our Attorney General in Texas, and finally, you know, at the Supreme Court level, getting that permanent ban on transgender. We won that September 5th of 2023, the ACLU.
Starting point is 01:21:12 had fought tooth and nail to still have transgender procedures in the youth. Now what Richard Levine, who again, fantasizes in his sexual fantasies to be Rachel Levine, he's a man, pretend to be a woman. And I said that point blank on Fox News, you know, to whatever shock that had to the producers and others listening, what Levine wants to do is he wants to remove any age, restrictions on the use of purity blockers, antigen estrogens, and the disfiguring, sterilizing surgery in the use. It's such a heinous set of clinical activities that no ethical doctor or nurse would ever do this. And it's sad, but the states must ban it.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I just want to ask about RFK one more time, because I'm like, how important, you know, like, up here we got, we got Daniel Smith talking openly about lots of. of different things. How important would it be to have somebody like an RFK Jr. in a prominent position talking about the health of a nation and the problems going on with the name recognition, et cetera, et cetera. Like, honestly, Peter, you're a doctor who's been pretty much ran through the mud and then some through COVID. RFK is right beside there. You know, like he's had his name and everything that's happened to him through COVID. and before that.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Like, how important to the United States do you think? And maybe Stephen and Mike, by all means, if you boys want to hop in on this, I'm just curious what your guys' thoughts on RFK, possibly, you know, if the Republicans get in, Trump gets in, him being in there in the mix. How important is that for the United States? Very, very. I look at it this way. He can do a lot of good in state.
Starting point is 01:23:07 He could do a lot of good at HHS. he could do a lot of good, you know, in any department. But, you know, where he's going to have the most impact is HHS, right? So his, you know, he's a lawyer too. So he's got a solid resume to walk in the door and, and influence change right away, right? Because somebody's got a reel in the FDA. FDA is a mess. And he's got a reel in not just the trans surgery, but all the other vaccination.
Starting point is 01:23:39 programs that they've gotten processed right now right and when you when you look at the ability for him to influence i mean he's got a he's got a solid track record of doing things with due diligence and transparency and that's that's what most americans want to see they it's like the election right most americans don't care who the winner is as long as it's transparent and it's it's not laced with malfeasance and he brings credibility to the door just walking in and would The Americans want to know, are the vaccines safe? Are these procedures safe? What level of causality goes with, you know, some of the things we're seeing out of the vaccines?
Starting point is 01:24:20 He's going to bring light to all of that. And that's exactly what we want him to do. The other thing he's going to do is he's going to clean out all the riffraff. And he's going to push the pharmaceuticals out, at least I'm assuming he's going to push the pharmaceuticals out and all the public-private partnerships that help them obfuscate what they're really doing. So he brings in a lot of different capabilities just in one person. And that's just him. He's got a circle of friends too.
Starting point is 01:24:48 And he's a Kennedy. So he's got a lot of influence there in a number of other ways. But if you want somebody to be an ambassador for the rest of the world to pave the way for real health reform, he's your guy. Well, you just had Vance talking the other day about how he wanted to, sorry, go ahead, Michael. Oh, no, Dr. McCullough, first of all, it's good to see you again. And I'll see you in Phoenix this weekend. So I'm going to hear you speak. A question that I had in terms of Kennedy and how the Trump Kennedy combo is going to take on Big Pharma.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I just think back to 2020 when you have Operation War of Speed where Trump had the opportunity and it appeared that, you know, Big Farma steamrolled him. So I just, I can't get my head around like what's changed. And how do you take on a conglomerate like that? And the other thing, you know, I wanted to ask you, you being in Texas, I had Dr. Mary Bowden on last week. And we were talking about how health care is trying. They're using health care to turn Texas blue. And it doesn't appear it's going to work this cycle.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Right. But chipping away, chipping away, do you think ultimately they'll be successful with that? You know, there was a recent, Paul, I published it on my substance. you know, 98% of professors at universities, including professors of medicine, 98% are Democratic. They're blue. And I think the same percentages among doctors. It's pretty similar in Canada as well. Yeah, they tend to be left-leaning. But, you know, I think the lieutenant colonel had some really well-spoken words about Kennedy. I thought that was a very articulate analysis.
Starting point is 01:26:32 remember that Kennedy's are, and Kennedy himself is a lifelong Democrat. So just the fact that you have a lifelong Democrat who's in a prominent position in a Republican administration, I mean, that speaks volumes for unity, right? So Kennedy, no matter where he is, is going to be unifying. His family is storied. His father, he's the oldest child, and his father was assessing. He was our Attorney General for Robert F. Kennedy. And sadly, he was, you know, he was assassinated.
Starting point is 01:27:10 And, you know, he has taken on Monsanto. He's taken on, you know, kind of the big industry. He's a straight shooter. Now, he's a lawyer. Now, Besheera, who's the current HHS director, is a lawyer. What we didn't have in Trump 1.0 is we didn't have, is we didn't have a strong doctor. We didn't have a strong surgeon general.
Starting point is 01:27:38 We didn't have anybody who would be considered, you know, a well-respected, hard-nosed, practical clinicians. So Kennedy is going to need some doctors. The first thing he runs up against on vaccines is the medical community is going to say, hey, you're not a doctor. And Kennedy better have some strong physicians in positions, certainly at the assistant HHS director separately, independently, I think, Surgeon General. So, you know, our Surgeon General, the last three times has basically been a mouthpiece
Starting point is 01:28:12 for the CDC, NIH, and FDA, or HHS, for that matter. We go back to C. Everett Coop, you know, who was an independent voice for prevention, for instance, or the U.S. Surgeon General report on tobacco. You know, the U.S. Surgeon General historically was the first person to take on the big tobacco lobby. So again, I think in a new administration, I am hopeful for strong, independent people in the administration advisors, highly qualified. And we're going to need a big time brass of doctors, not bureaucrats, but real doctors because of this issue that health care and pandemic response has risen to such a high issue for so many of us, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:01 know among the citizenry. And don't think you're good. They got it. They have to dismantle the AMA because the AMA has used COVID to go after doctors that we're trying to treat patients and trying to go around and give alternatives to the vaccines. That needs to be dismantled. I mean, I'm just going to say it like a military guy, he needs to go in there bust heads on day one. And he needs to take strong doctors in there, clinicians that go in and make, you know, and make
Starting point is 01:29:31 decisions that we're going to do this. We're not going to do this. And if it was me, I'd walk into that place with a paint gun and fire people. It would be like, what have you done for the citizens? Bam, bam, bam, bam, you're fired. And I keep going down to the janitor until I got rid of everybody from the previous administration. Department of government efficiency. I'm telling you, that's how bad it is.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It's terrible. And to be honest, Doc, this is the first time I met you. I would love to see you in a position in D.C. and heads. And just call me. I'll come help you. What if you get the call? Dr. McCullough, if you get the call, what's your answer going to be? Yeah, I've testified, you know, three times in the Senate, I've testified in the House and probably about half the United States. In a sense, and Sean Newman's committee by my witness, I've been in service to the country now for five years as a public figure.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And I haven't been wrong on issues. I haven't misled the country. I've tried to really portray what skilled medical leadership is. And so I'd be honored to assist in any way I can with the new administration. But like I say, the people called to Washington this time better be real doctors. who can hold their ground against a what we call a biopharmacurgical complex, now a syndicate between these foundations like Gates Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation, Welcome Trust, and the agencies, academia, and big pharma,
Starting point is 01:31:14 because they're all syndicated now and they're all taking care of each other. And I can tell you some things, you know, first on the list, I think, would be to completely recall, follow the COVID-19 vaccines off the market. We should rescind the 1986 vaccine injury compensation act and companies are going to have to stand behind their products with full liability for their product safety. We should ban gain of function research, not the funding for it, but actually ban it. Outlaw gain of function research, do an inventory, make sure we are no longer creating dangerous pathogens that can infect the world. and we need to have, clearly, as Lieutenant Colonel said, we need a house cleaning.
Starting point is 01:32:01 These agencies are far too fat. They have so many employees. We're approaching 500 government agencies now. We've got government people tripping over each other in Washington and on Zoom all day long, and Americans have been footing the bill. We need to trim our budget, develop financial responsibility. I think healthcare can take the lead. Dr. McCullough, two quick, well, one quick question, one medium question. If you'll allow, have you spoken to anybody on Trump's team or anything at all like that about the possibility of you having some sort of
Starting point is 01:32:39 leadership point in these proposed changes? No, I haven't. Okay. And then, oh, shoot, I blanked on the other one. I'm trying to keep track of too many things. Sorry. Peter, I told you 15 minutes. I don't want to overstay my welcome with you.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I know your time is always, you know, the utmost importance. Appreciate you hopping on. You're more than welcome. I want to be very clear. You're more than welcome. Yeah, I'm going to have to make another appearance. But thank you so much. And, you know, God bless Canada.
Starting point is 01:33:11 God bless the United States. And I think many are hopeful for the future, no matter how things shake out. It's election time is always a chime. time for change, new insights, and hopefully a new direction. Thank you so much, you guys. Yeah, thanks again for hopping on, Peter. Thank you, doctor. You know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:33:30 When he said, Chuck and Boch, I'm like, I can go back to, what was it, like episode 200. I think this is, you know, when this comes out again tomorrow on the podcast, I think it'll be like episode 740 or some silly thing. And I remember having Peter on at the start when he said, don't take the vaccine and heads literally exploded. that was a wild time back then. So I know what he's talking about. We have, you know, the editor of the Jean Numa podcast, entrepreneur, extraordinaire,
Starting point is 01:33:58 and probably the youngest guy who's going to come on this show tonight, Jack Milliken's hopping in from St. Louis. So Jack, thanks for, thanks for hopping in. I would love to know. I would love to know what St. Louis Jack has to say about this election. Maybe you got insightful things or maybe just a young person's view on what the U.S. election is to you right now. Yeah, it's, I mean, it kind of feels like not to get too crazy right away, but it feels like a diversity hire right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:34:25 But I'm just noticing a lot of the people in my circle are one-issue voters, and it's a lot of the young women that are being told, you know, protect their bodies and that they, you know, want to protect their bodies rights. And that's really frustrating to hear because not only a few years ago, we were being told, everyone was being told what to do with their bodies. And so I don't know, just it seems like there's not a lot of thought that's getting put into why people are voting. It's just, hey, let's go out and vote for the big, bright, shiny object and, you know, keep Hitler from rising the power. Well, and that makes it interesting because, you know, on that's probably a lot of it. But on the other hand, you've got Amos people showing up to vote right now. Oh, yeah? Yeah, there's, I saw some stuff on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:35:14 I didn't have a chance to get into it. It's been a whirlwind of a day. But apparently there's quite a lot of Amish people showing up. And I feel like, you know, given their lack of social media in their community, they probably don't even realize that Trump is literally Hitler. Yeah, right, right. That's exactly right. And, you know, the Kamala campaigns, I was sitting in a bar the other day.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Or the other night, I should say, I'm not just sitting in bars on a, day-to-day basis. But, you know, it's just the comparing him to Hitler, you know, in her literal tweets and in her campaigns after him being shot, this seems like a extremely aggressive way of approaching things. It's not a campaign or an administration that I'm very interested in. I am in Arizona. Arizona's reporting 49%. Harris is up by 16,000 votes. That's pretty tight. You called it so far anyway. Yeah. That's. That's how it's going to go. At some point, they'll stop counting or whatever the case may be, but 49%.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Yeah. So the real question is, if they called Virginia? No. Georgia, it looks like Georgia's, Virginia's neck and neck. Yeah, it's like 30,000. Tues, can you pull up the map on your link there? You don't need to go right into it.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Just scroll over Virginia so that people can see. Like, you don't need to go right into it. But you can just scroll. Sorry, I'm doing too good of a job. This is what happens when you got somebody else in charge of the AV on the show, Sean. Every time I pull it up, my everything crashes on my side. I'm like, is CNN's link literally, maybe they don't like me. They don't like the foreign, they don't like the foreign interference of Kay.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That's right. Of Canadians, you know, I would love to see that headline. Canadians interfering in the U.S. election. I don't think that's going to talk about it as it happens. That's right. Right now, for those of you who can't see it because it's too small, you got Kamala at 49.7%, which is 1,569,000 in change. And Donald Trump, I think I'm saying that correctly, 48.5%.
Starting point is 01:37:29 1,530,000. So, oh, and it just jumped. So 71,000 basically for Kamala and 31,000. So you're within 40,000 votes of each other in Virginia with 70% in so far. So I don't know. I call that pretty neck and neck. And Brenda Blanchee in the comments says, Sean quit harassing twos.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Never, never. You should definitely take that. Okay, there you go. I'm going to add in one more. We got the host of the Vance Crowe podcast in San Luis. Hey, how's it going? Hey, guys, how are you? Well, we're cooking along here.
Starting point is 01:38:12 You know, we're very fortunate to have, you know, Stephen and Michael and now Jack and we had Peter McKella and Tom Luongo and we got others slowly going to trickle in but and Scott Marsland I should point out too. So we're just having fun here. I mean at the end of the day I'm sure at times Stephen and Mike down in Arizona are like what is what did I sign up for tonight? You know? Well before we get too far into it, can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that no matter what Vance is doing, he always has the best the audio. That's funny because I actually was trying to set all this up when I was watching my two
Starting point is 01:38:48 girls. I had to put him to bed before I got on here and everything was a mishmash. So I was like actually kind of afraid that it was going to have feedback loops and sound terrible. So thanks, Tews. You made me feel good. That's what we're here for. Vance, what do you think of the 2024 election? I'm going to ask the question and I'm going to let it go back to the group and see where the conversation goes. But, you know, you're the newest comer into the, you know, the election coverage. What do you, what do you have you thought? What have you seen out of St. Louis? Well, I think, you know, Tuesday brought this up about the Amish voting. I think that what we're seeing right now is people really feeling threatened.
Starting point is 01:39:26 They're, they're feeling like the, the future that they have in ways that they maybe could have ignored politics in the past, in the ways that they would have said, ah, you know, I'm not going to be involved or even our faith or our community isn't going to be involved. People took a look around in the last couple of years and said there have been such radical changes to our culture that if I don't do something now I may never get another chance and I would have said all the way up until this election you know it's a bad form to think of this presidential election as being such a big deal but you watch how many immigrants have been brought in you watch how many federal over reach into the ways that our states are being run and you have to think like
Starting point is 01:40:10 this is more important than I want it to be, but I think a lot of people are feeling like they had to get involved. I imagine we're going to see not just big turnout in some locations, but people that have never come out to vote before probably be the deciding factor here. Yep. I was saying that earlier advance. You're spot on. I think that that's going to be the that'll be the key, right? And I can't tell you how many people that I saw voting this this time around the lines all week long for early voting. They were steady. They were long all week long.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And they were long today. And I think people have realized that this is an existential crisis for this country. And as much as you want to say, it's not. You look at the last four years. You look at the flow of illegals across the border. And I don't know, Sean, if you know who Michael Young is. But it's supposed to be having them on, actually, in a couple of weeks. weeks, hopefully, Steve.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I talk to him all the time, and he was at Darying Gap. And we, between him, myself and Bracken, I think we figured out that there was approximately 42 million that have come across the border in the last four years, over 80% of our military age males. You and I had this conversation, right? The American public sees that. They're seeing the demographic changes across the country, especially in red areas, because they've put a lot of them in red areas.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And they're seeing this slow cultural change happening. And they realize the status quo has changed. And a lot of people get really uncomfortable. And I've said on my show for probably four years now, until the American public is completely uncomfortable, they're not going to do anything different. And what we're seeing today is people are uncomfortable. So they're voting because they don't want something different.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Because what's next? If this doesn't go the way that people think it's going to go, what comes next. We all know what comes next. And this is the last bit of hope that people have before the next option is exercised. And I can tell you that I, you know, I routinely get calls that as an army officer, I can tell you that the call you don't want to get, the question you want to get from a soldier, sir, what are your orders? You never want to hear that, especially after you retire. And I've heard that probably 15, 16 times just in the last two months. Everybody's on edge with this one. So I think everybody's paying attention. So he's right.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Dan's your spot on. When I look at, I'm just looking at the map right now, 195 Trump, Kamala Harris 91. Doesn't that give, like, am I missing something or does that not give some people a little bit of hope that this is going the right direction? You know, I just look at You're trending, though. Is that almost every single bit of the West Coast is going to come in blue. Well, the whole West Coast is going to come in blue, right? So, and California's got quite a few votes. So you're going to see it, you're going to see the numbers stay still for Trump for a while while they climb up for Kamala.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Yep. Yep. Remember I said they have to make it look close to make it look plausible. It's about they have to convince, I'm saying this is an information workforce officer. You have to be able to sell it, right? So it's got to be freshly packaged and well-delivered BS for people to buy it. So it's got to be a close call and it's got to be drawn out so everybody can see that, yeah, it was so close. So many people showed up, et cetera, et cetera, right? So that's what we'll see.
Starting point is 01:44:00 You're right. California's going to be blue. Oregon is definitely going to be blue. Washington's going to be blue. Idaho. it's a toss up. A lot of blue hair and man buns there. Yeah, but they've,
Starting point is 01:44:13 they voted, Idaho voted Trump both times already. That doesn't mean anything now. Well, yeah, fair enough. I mean, we're looking down the barrel of the possibility of you guys having the first president to win three elections in a row. I would love to see that tonight. I would love to see that and maintain some level of giddy optimism.
Starting point is 01:44:33 So, but I'm going to be a little bit bitter and cynical right now until proven otherwise. Pennsylvania, Trump's starting to pull further and further ahead right now as you look at it. So right now he's got, he's got $2 million in change compared to Kamala's 1.9. He's only up by $100,000 and there's only 50%, 57% of the vote in to this map. So, you know, one thing I haven't heard anybody talk about. Georgia looks like it's, it's Georgia. Sure. Sorry, I just cut you off.
Starting point is 01:45:11 It's all right. I was just going to say there's one thing. We've heard a lot about the betting markets, but there's one market that I think is quite interesting to look at. Of course, I'm going to mention Bitcoin, which has just recently hit all-time highs. So it is now $73,986. And that says something about the way the Bitcoin community, which is a global one, feels about what the future is going to be like. And a Kamala Harris administration is not one. that has been particularly pro-bitcoin, whereas Donald Trump has said he'd make it a reserve currency. So a lot of people with a lot of money saying, hey, we're actually going to go out and buy Bitcoin right now. That sends a signal to me that seems more positive than any of the electoral map could tell me.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Well, before you came on, we were talking about Polly Market and how it is just absolutely blown up in the past day in Trump's favor. Interesting thing, though, I want to pick your brain on this, Vance. What do you think a reserve currency of Bitcoin would do? Obviously, it would give it more legitimacy and that would drum up interest. But do you think that it would be used potentially by the U.S. government to control the price of it? And thereby just tip the scales in whatever favor the current administration felt like. How active do you think they'd be with that? Well, I'm not entirely sure what a reserve currency for Bitcoin really means, other than if you were to say, hey, we have to back any of the dollars that we're printing based on Bitcoin. I struggle to imagine any modern government wanting to do that. What we're seeing right now is that the BRICS countries, which originally came out and said they were going to allow settlement within their own currencies, now they're realizing, hey, that's actually a really complicated thing. Maybe the better way to do it is to allow us to allow us to allow us.
Starting point is 01:47:04 to settle through Bitcoin. And two of the latest countries that they've added into the system, both in Ethiopia and Argentina, are both using state resources to mine Bitcoin. So maybe the more interesting thing would be to say, if a Trump administration came in, would you see actual governmental level Bitcoin mining? And while they could bring a lot of mining to bear on that,
Starting point is 01:47:28 they could throw a lot of weight around, the mining is so decentralized right now, that they wouldn't be able to get any kind of control over the protocol. It would be, I would say, impossible at this point for them to do that. And so I don't know. I think one thing it would do is it might force the government to have to have controls on spending, whereas right now with the printing press, they can just turn it on and print any money they want.
Starting point is 01:47:52 It might put them back in league with other countries to have to have a different settlement, but I don't really know what a reserve currency would look like. Well, I mean, okay, so actually going back to that mining bit too, So I saw somewhere that cost, I didn't look at it closely enough to see if it was Canadian or U.S. dollars. But it was saying it costs about $96,000 to mine one Bitcoin right now. So there's not even an arbitrage, right? Why would they go to the trouble of mining it when it would be better for them to just buy it? Well, I mean, therein lies exactly the point.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Most of the time the reason people are mining Bitcoin is because they're going over the long arc of time. or they think they have some kind of advantage. So when somebody says it costs $96,000 to mine of Bitcoin, that is almost entirely dependent on two factors. One, what is your hardware costs, your capital costs? And then two, probably more importantly is what is your electricity costs? So in certain places, I always say this to you guys up there in Alberta, if you're burning off natural gas in order to get to the oil underneath, your cost to goods sold is whatever it costs to get your generator from Steve Barber and be able to just grab that energy off there. So your energy costs is way lower. So it just depends on where you're at and what your energy costs
Starting point is 01:49:10 or how much it costs to mine a Bitcoin. And then if you were wondering, like, what does that mean with the U.S. government? I mean, they can definitely tilt the floor in their own direction to be able to purchase energy at a low cost. They also could deregulate markets. You could start seeing nuclear power come online. I think there's been a lot of corporate pressure for that. So, I mean, a friendly administration would revolutionize the world. We would watch energy change radically and it would be very good. And I think the Bitcoin markets are suggesting they think Trump's going to win. Well, I mean, I don't think anybody's thinking that the costs of energy are going to go down with Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Just, oh, sorry, Mike. No, I just want to add. Somebody text me. That's interesting. The Wall Street Journal CNN, conservative tree house, CNN is starting to argue with themselves as to why Harris can maybe possibly pull it out. Their faces are looking distressed. Take that for what it is. I think it is exactly what it is, isn't it? Like, I keep looking at the map. And I mean, you're, you're, oh, wow, twos if twos to pull up the right map. Hey, twos? Oh, sorry. I'm just looking at my own. I've been mucking around with the map trying to see, you know, if it goes this way, how do the numbers look? And if it goes that goes that way, how do the numbers look? And I didn't realize that Sean had to lean on me so hard tonight. I mean, going back to what Michael said, I mean, Georgia right now, according to the New York Times, is looking very likely to go Republican. And, I mean, that's 16 electoral votes that, I mean, that really.
Starting point is 01:50:59 That's the same in Virginia, right? Yeah. Google's still reporting. It's at 88% reporting for Georgia and Trump's 51 to 48%. There's a couple hundred thousand votes that separate him. That's a big number being that close to the finish line. We'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:51:18 They'll they call it. That's fair. Arizona I told you that Gallego is going to win. They're 49% reporting, so they're still, you know, 51% of the vote to count. They're projecting him at 52.5% of the vote right now. You weren't kidding, Steve, that that is tight. 902-800 to 901-754 in Arizona.
Starting point is 01:51:42 I told you. That is, that is like razor tight. Yeah. And the word I would use for it is bullshit. This is a red state. So that number is probably way higher for Trump. But because of the malfeasance, we're seeing a lot of booze. Shit.
Starting point is 01:52:00 So can Steve, can you make the, I mean, is Trump going to win this? I don't know. Too early to tell. It was way too early to tell.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Yeah. So I think Tom is right. If Virginia was going to go to Trump, and that's a close race too. I've been 20,000 votes separate the two of them right now. That's a, that's a damn close race. So we'll,
Starting point is 01:52:23 we'll see. I, I, I would love to be optimistic to see. that Trump would win. But I'm going to wait and see until all of the votes are tallied. If I was Trump and I got to projected 270,
Starting point is 01:52:37 I declare victory. Is it cynical of me to point out that Arlington is going thoroughly blue? No. That's pretty normal. That's pretty normal. Arlington, Fairfax County, those are heavily blue. I was just thinking because of the famous cemetery.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Oh, that's all, that's all contractors. Those are all people that come across or across the river and go into D.C. and get huge paychecks for being on government contracts. Yep. All right. And Sean, I got a bounce. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Brenda Blanche is agreeing with Tews. Thanks. Thanks again for hopping on, Steve. Appreciate it. Yeah. I'm honored to be here. Vance. It was great to meet you.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Nice to meet you, Steve. I will give you a bad time the next time I see you for sure. Looking forward to it. Yeah. You guys take care. Thanks again, Steve. Then there was four. Mike, I didn't...
Starting point is 01:53:33 Jack jumped off without even say goodbye, hey? Jack had to go. And Mike, I haven't even thought to ask. Like, I just assume you're up to no good tonight and you're like, I'm hanging out for a bit. But, I mean, by all means, if you got to hop, just, you know, you don't have to wait for me. No, no, yeah. I actually want to make a phone call to my... I talked to this guy.
Starting point is 01:53:53 What's going on? So I was going to call him to see what? Because he said it looks like a Trump win. And I'm like, what are you seeing? well by all means i never thought that i never thought that you know i've been saying all the year i thought they would steal it um so that's why it's just really interesting to see if they can if he can pull this off um well if you need to make a phone call we'll just mute you and just come back on after the phone call because i'd love to i'd love to hear if there's other things going on that you can find up i mean by all
Starting point is 01:54:19 means i'll be right back yeah sounds good in the meantime vance do you think there's a chance new mexico's going to go Trump? Wow. That's that not it'd be shocking to me if that happened. New Mexico's gone left, you know, quite a bit gone blue. The one that really shocked me was Texas. I mean, to see that Trump won 56 to 43 there. I mean, is really, I mean, I guess I assumed he was going to win Texas. It'd be hard to win the election without it. But I did not see that they were going to do that so handily. I know in the last few years, people have really been worried about how many people from California and Colorado moved down to Texas and thought they'd flip it blue. I one time spoke with the president of the Texas Farm Bureau and he was like, I think we're
Starting point is 01:55:05 going to be a blue state. We're going to have a whole bunch of trouble with agriculture. Well, that did not happen tonight. So that's another four years of Texas being deeply red. Hey, Tews, can you do me a favor? Can you scroll just ever so slightly down so the 207 is just, nope, other way, up. That would be up. Okay, whatever. I can scroll up. I'm on the New York Times and they just gave him three more. So he's saying the New York Times is saying 210 for Donald Trump. Where did he get the other three? Something in Nebraska?
Starting point is 01:55:38 Maybe something like Utah. I just, I don't, Vance, fill me in here, right? Like I keep waiting when I see this trend, this feels like when we're in Canada and Trudeau gets a whole bunch of votes right away, you're like, well, there's still a chance. There's still a chance. I can see all the seats on the left side of the map that are going to go to Kamala. But I look at it and I'm like at 207, I'm like, he's not far off. And when he just needs little things to get him to 270, I'm like, I feel like it's going to be a Donald Trump win. But am I just wrong in thinking that?
Starting point is 01:56:15 Like, am I staring at the wrong things here? You know, I think when you look at the maps and the last few years that this has happened, you can see that those left coast states are going to get huge numbers. And so the battlegrounds, the Minnesota's, the Wisconsin's, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all these ones that are slow counting, these are going to be the ones that in total he's got to take to get 60 more. And there isn't some giant amount that's just going to flow his way. I mean, Georgia would be a big win for him. But you're exactly right. As soon as those polls close, probably in the next 17 minutes or so, she is going to get a big win.
Starting point is 01:56:55 big bump and we're going to see that number get a lot closer to where they're both getting closer and closer to 270. So I think it's one of those things that we are still really close to tell on this. I think, you know, I think a lot of people intuitively feel like he's doing well because he's up so high right now, but this is definitely not over. So you have closing here in 17 minutes. You have California, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, and pretty much everybody, you know, is already closed, right? So the numbers are coming in from all the states. California is a big one. How many, how many is it got? It's got like 54, right? So that's going to be a giant number. Jesus Christ. Did that go down with their net, you know, what do you call it? Outflux, if you will.
Starting point is 01:57:47 they still have i think all of them you know there was something weird that went on with the census i heard some guys talking today and uh right now florida because of the way the census was done they are only supposed to have 30 electoral college votes but if for some reason the election comes all the way down just to two electoral college votes you know we're right on that edge um ben shapiro was saying that florida would be able to say well we have damages that are material because the census was not done correctly, and we deserve two more seats that we didn't get, and we would like to throw the flag on this. So there's like weird things that could happen even if the election comes right down to the wire.
Starting point is 01:58:29 According to Ben Shapiro, I didn't look into this at all myself. But I don't think California lost any electoral seats, even though they had a big outplaying of citizens. Despite the fact that they can't even keep U-Hauls. Yeah, I don't think so. Okay, so walk us through something here real quick. Now, it's been four years since I've had somebody explaining this to me. And the last time I heard it before that was four years before it.
Starting point is 01:58:52 So Maine, Nebraska, I think they're the only two where they split up their electoral votes between the popular vote over the state and then also in the major centers, each get one. Why is that different? Why does nobody else do that? So the electoral college system was set up because back in the day, they said, look, just because you, have an urban center, you don't want to make it so only urban centers. So the popular vote drives everything. You want to make it so there is some sort of balance of people that are living in rural areas that are living in not so popular states. So the electoral college takes it away from this kind of mob mentality rule. It kind of gives a little bit more balance to that. And most of the
Starting point is 01:59:40 states have elected to keep it where they do it as a block. I think most states want to do it that way because it gives them more power. It gives them more reason for, you know, a candidate to come and make promises and make deals with their own, with that presidential candidate. Because if you split it up and you say, hey, well, you know, the blue candidate's going to get two votes. We're going to get three votes. We're not going to go fight for it.
Starting point is 02:00:05 But if it's, if all of them are on the table, it means that they're going to have to fight for all of them. So it gives you a little bit more clout. Okay. So just each state has decided independently how. they want to do things. Fair enough. Okay, and one other thing, so when Tom was on, well, actually, Michael's back now.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Do you have an update for us? Maybe he can't hear me just yet. So he'll hopefully start talking whenever he can hear us. But in the meantime, Tom Longo was saying that he figures Nevada is going to go red. He thought that because of the outflux of people from California who primarily moved to Nevada, and those people being the people who wouldn't have voted Democrat, he thinks Nevada is going to go red. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 02:00:58 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the last two times I was out in Nevada, I've been to Provo, even Salt Lake. Those were historically Mormon and very red places, but they are completely changed culturally, and they are not the same place that they were in the past. So I don't know in the last year or so, or during COVID enough people moved out of California.
Starting point is 02:01:21 But to me, that state was not the conservative bastion it was, say, 10 years ago when I first started visiting it. Okay. Just rewind for a sec real quick. Oh, that's in Utah. Sorry, those are both in Utah. So with Nevada, I don't know. I mean, you've got Las Vegas. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:39 I have no idea. Tom probably knows better than I do. I was talking about Utah. Vegas is, I mean, Nevada is centered around Clark County, right? like that's where Las Vegas is. And I it's somewhat similar. I mean, smaller like Maricopa. I mean, it all centers around Clark County.
Starting point is 02:01:57 And they change their mail and ballots to make it more accessible in 2020. So I can't. I don't know. It looks like I'm apparently wrong on everything though. So I mean, I would I would have I would expect Nevada to go blue similar to Arizona. But yeah. But I don't know. Like I was just talking to my friend, and you're looking at this.
Starting point is 02:02:21 I mean, he's going to, Trump's going to win Georgia. It looks like he's going to win North Carolina. I mean, he appears stronger this go-around than he did in 2020. Unless there's some, you know, water main breaks or bomb threats or something, all signs point to right now that he could win this. And you sign, you know, it's funny. I'm shocked because I was wrong all year. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:02:49 I was going to say, you sound shocked, Mike. I just, go ahead, sorry. Well, I was just going to say, once again, I'm just a Canadian. I get to interview Americans all the time. I get to stare at things, and we talk to a lot of Americans on the show. And, like, I just look at it and I go, from where I sit, I didn't see how Trump could lose this one. I hear all the stories. Believe me, I hear all the stories.
Starting point is 02:03:15 And certainly, you go back to 20. 2020 and and there's all of that but I'm like but now everybody knows that so they're showing up in droves like everywhere everywhere I ran into um you know I married to a girl from Minnesota so there was a Trump rally in about an hour away from her house so I you know I'm like I'll go take a look Minnesota's blue it's a blue blue blue blue blue state and I drove up there and it was insane I don't use that word lightly that's it in the bluest of blue states, and it was insane. How many thousands of people were just roaming around with all the Trump stuff? And I'm like, this is different. Like, this is something,
Starting point is 02:04:01 you know, that, um, you don't normally see, or at least, I don't know, as a Canadian viewing it. And so I don't know if this shocks me that much. Um, you know, like, Biden winning last election shocked me. Uh, I don't know. That's, that's just my thoughts. I, I, I, could be completely wrong. Once again, it's just a Canadian's viewpoint. I just, I don't know if I'm that surprised. The entire world as I talked to him is like rooting for Trump. So I guess I just, I'm not that shocked that I'd be shocked if Harris pulled ahead or Kamala pulled ahead here. Like I'd be shocked on that side of things. But once again, I could be wrong. Well, and as these numbers are, you know, as they're tallying these numbers, the percentages
Starting point is 02:04:45 that go going up, they're going to have to find votes. And I just can't see them making up the margins right now in some of these states for Harris to pull ahead. You know, I, so I'm just, you look at what happened in 2020 and, you know, nothing had changed in terms of like processes. So I, I just didn't think, you know, I was, I mean, we don't know yet. It's not done. But I always hoped I was wrong. I'm just a little bit of a state of shock. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:18 I mean, I think if you, I, four years ago, I remember because I had a brand new baby that was staying up all night. So, you know, I'm, I went to sleep watching thinking, oh, Trump had this in the bag. And then woke up at 2 a.m. and all the sudden, the vote count start wildly changing. And this is the experience that many people had. And it was like, wait a second. I thought this was already, this was already done. But to your point, Sean, I have never in my life seen as an adult. People have this much. about a candidate, particularly when people so dislike the current administration. So it's hard for me to imagine that the U.S. would elect Kamala. But, you know, I don't know, there's weird things have happened in the past.
Starting point is 02:06:04 And I think you'd be foolish to not accept it. Kamala is like everything, everything about how she got in. And the fact that she's been vice president for the last four years, right, there's just nothing working in her favor. Like, there's just no, like, plausible, you know, everybody's behind her. Nope. And then all the, all the, the celebrities come out. But Pete Eddie just came home right before that.
Starting point is 02:06:24 So now they look even worse. It's like, and you were at a PDW party and you were at a P.D.D.E. party. And it's like, yeah, it's kind of an Oprah thing. And she was one of the people talking about Kamala too. And so it's like people are just whising to this like, this thing. And so it's just right there in front of everybody. And I'm just like, to me, the same things that possibly worked in 2020 aren't working right now. But once again, I'm just one guy sitting in Alberta going, I don't know, I stare at your guys' election.
Starting point is 02:06:55 I'm like, this is wild. I'm sure I'm like every other Canadian going, I'm just falling along, hoping that it turns up the right way so that we can maybe, I don't know, not go to war and kill everyone. That would be great. You know, I was just talking with a Russian friend of mine who we were making a joke about how Russians, they don't view the world as having happy endings. and they kind of mock Americans because they always say Americans think that the world has to have happy endings, but no Russian stories end with happy ending. And I think Americans have just seen for the last four years, maybe decade stories that don't have happy endings. And you know, you think about, say, the Epstein client list or various things that happen where everybody is like,
Starting point is 02:07:37 all right, we're finally going to find out what happened here. We're finally going to get down to the bottom of this. And it turns out we're not that the people in power had an ability to kill themselves. What do you need to ask? Exactly, right? And I think that like there's just been so many experiences that Americans have had where we thought we were going to get to the bottom of it. It seems so obvious now. And then we don't. And it seems like the people in power have had a lot of power. Now, if Donald Trump gets in, I think we're going to find out a lot about, you know, UFOs. Do you think of this time around we're going to find, we're going to find out a lot or or no? I do think so. that UFOs, JFK assassination, Epstein, Deity Files, Deity. You think he's going to just blow the lid
Starting point is 02:08:23 right open on all that stuff? You know, there is something really to be said about lame duck presidents, particularly a lame duck president that it's as old as Trump is, where, you know, what do you have to left to lose, right? He already is face down being shot. So if he was being warned before, hey, we're not opening this stuff up because you're going to get shot. I think that fear is gone. So. I mean, also this is kind of the purient interest. Like I really hope he gets in in the sense of think of all the things we'll learn. But who knows?
Starting point is 02:08:54 The bureaucracy is deep and has a lot of power. I think it's safe to say that Kamala doesn't really have any interest in leaking any of that stuff. No, Kamala is just Trudeau. That's just, it's just like the puppet character that said, yes, I'll take your money. That's the worst thing anybody said about Kamala this whole night. Mike, do you have, do you share the same thing as Vance? Do you think if Trump gets in this time around? You know, because like I feel like if there's one thing, I won't give any politician.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Although I do appreciate your thought, Vance, that the guy's actually been shot. So I mean, like, what are they actually going to do? Finish the job. It's like, well, they're taking every opportunity at this point. Do you think if Trump gets in this second time go around? He'll actually be like, ah, screw it. Let's talk about JFK and let's release the files. Let's, you know, Epstein, here's the video footage of him being whacked.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Here's, you know, and just blow it up, or do you not share that thought? I think there's a lot to be said just real quick before, I just want to jump in before you answer that. There's a lot to be said for somebody who doesn't need to worry about re-election and how they can just do whatever is right or whatever they think is good or whatever is just fun. But, but Vance, please. No, it's Michael. Mike, Mike, Mike. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, I, you know what, when I, when I think about that, and I know he's got, at this point, he's got nothing to lose, but he can't, he does, right?
Starting point is 02:10:23 Because if you cross over a certain threshold or a certain line, you're talking about your life. You're talking about your family's life. So push comes to shove. Would he do that? I don't, I don't think that he would. But that's why I was asking Dr. McCullough about, you know, the whole big pharma, taking on the big pharma. because he had a chance to do that in 2020, and he got rolled. He got rolled. I mean, so now all of a sudden things have changed,
Starting point is 02:10:55 and you're going to take on these big corporate conglomerates? Well, he's got RFK with his, RFK's got his back. The question I was going to ask people that I blanked on. Once again, I'm just not. I'm kind of agreeing here with Mike. I'm like, you know, as much as I want to hold out, all of a sudden the RFK boss get dropped and aliens get dropped
Starting point is 02:11:16 and everything gets dropped. I'm like, but he was in power for four years. And none of it got dropped. Well, I mean, the lame duck thing is pretty real. I mean, I think if you go back and look at presidential, like, the things that they moved through in their second term were pretty extreme. I mean, I think that's when Obama got a lot more health care stuff done. He got a whole bunch of stuff that went in motion that he set about putting in many, many other bureaucracies into the system. when you're there, you've gotten a second one.
Starting point is 02:11:48 You don't have to worry about pleasing the other side because you're not running for office again. And so you're able to put things in. I think there's a pretty clear record that lame duck presidents that get sent there with, what do you call that? When you get the Senate and you get the House, if you get a strong super majority there, they put a lot into motion. Well, I tell you what, a guy who might know some of this
Starting point is 02:12:13 is an American, he's sitting in a lot. in the background right now. He's an American economic forecaster, former hedge fund manager, known for his proprietary model, the economic confidence model. He's the CEO of Armstrong economics. I don't know if, uh, I believe he, yes, he is. Martin Armstrong, thanks for how often. How are you doing? Well, I think we're doing okay. I'm, you know, we're talking about a couple things here, Martin, and I'll let you take the floor, but one, when you look at what's going on right now, we're about to have more polls, you know, start to show here. at the top of the hour.
Starting point is 02:12:46 But when you look at everything right now, are you confident that, like, are you thinking Trump's going to win? Are you like, nah, it's too early? And then the second thing we're talking about
Starting point is 02:12:55 is if Trump were to win, is he actually going to drop? JFK, aliens, Epstein, P. Diddy, on and on and on, all these things. Or are you like,
Starting point is 02:13:06 not a chance? No, let me give you a little background. I mean, I'm at least one of the guys that got JFK to, to join Trump.
Starting point is 02:13:18 I spoke to him on and off for this whole year, really. And the main reason I pushed the two of them together is because they were both anti-war. But I also knew something that maybe isn't
Starting point is 02:13:36 in mainstream so much. Back in 2016, Trump met with RFK, and he offered him a commission to study vaccines. And he accepted. So I knew the two of them were going to join back then.
Starting point is 02:13:58 Big Pharma basically threatened everybody in Congress that they would pull all money from them unless that commission was shut down. It was shut down about six months before the COVID vaccines. So I also know. No RFK. And, you know, I'm not saying that he's going to take down Big Pharma, but he's going to give him a good run for their money. I was trying to push him to be AG saying, look, now you can actually indict the head of Pfizer, you know. But he's on to the health and things of that nature.
Starting point is 02:14:44 so Trump is going to pretty much let him have a free run. And what you have to understand about politics is that the first time Trump was there, you know, the people that were running the system basically told him they give confidence because he's not a politician and they stuffed his cabinet. John Bolton, I mean, Neocons, et cetera. He then started firing these people because they realized they were all stabbing on the back.
Starting point is 02:15:24 The reason they are so afraid of Trump is that this time he knows the game. And I can tell you, as I've spoken to some people with the transition team, it's going to be his own people. It's not going to be picked by the deep state. And as you know, I used to be part of the vetting process for people the one to run for president. And then it would send me in to tell them about the world economy, how it really works and all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:16:01 But it was really a vetting process. Do you think that they're smart enough to handle it, et cetera? And then 1999 came by. and I was told, look, we want you to go down and meet with Bush Jr. I said, yeah, okay, fine. They said, no, this one's different. I said, what's different? And they said, oh, no, he's really stupid.
Starting point is 02:16:22 I said, what? They picked that cabinet. They picked Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney was really president. The same way right now, it's not Camilla and it's not Biden. It's basically Blinken is running the show. show. So people have to. Who's running the show, Martin? Lincoln, the Secretary of State.
Starting point is 02:16:48 Okay. He's a real neocon. I mean, he's the one causing all the problems, threatening everybody on every which front. So this time you're looking at most likely Trump is not, is going to do things that maybe you might suspect are just politician nonsense. But it's not. I had even worked with Congress on eliminating the income tax and taking Social Security and turning it into a wealth fund back in the 90s with Dick Army and Bill Archer, et cetera. And Trump has come out and suddenly has said he would like to eliminate the income tax. And I can tell you all this stuff because that was part of it.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Would he do it? It would take a, if he's got the Senate and the House possibly. It doesn't, it's not going to require repealing the 16th Amendment. That you'll never get done because all the states have income taxes. Sorry, just for those of us uninitiated, which amendment is the 16th, please? That's the income taxed. Okay. Just, you know, to impose the income tax back in 1913.
Starting point is 02:18:21 You guys love to talk about how the declaration is the greatest document ever written. And then, you know, you failed to mention the fact that it had to be amended two dozen times afterwards. Well, as originally written, it outlawed direct taxation. That's what the 16th Amendment was about. It said, no, you can. And so, yeah, but I mean, pretty much everything that they did from the original Constitution that did protect our rights, they have nullified pretty much. You don't have the right to free speech.
Starting point is 02:18:58 if you read the First Amendment, it says the government shall not. But then you have the Biden administration telling YouTube, cancel this guy, that guy, whatever. So they have circumvented everything that they possibly can. I mean, that's just the way governments work. You give you a little bit of power and they want it all. Martin, when you look at the map and you see 211, 145, Kamala Harris, you go, Donald Trump's getting in. because I know the last time I talked to you, you said,
Starting point is 02:19:30 the model shows this, and I don't believe it. Are you starting to believe it now, or are you like, it's too early to call? No. What did the model show? The computer has been always right.
Starting point is 02:19:47 I mean, it, um, what I meant personally was that I know he's such a threat to these people. And I had said on a number of podcasts. I thought they would try to assassinate him. And they did. All right.
Starting point is 02:20:06 I know some of these neocons. I've had dinner with them. You look in their eyes and believe me, you do not see a warm light. And, I mean, people like John Bolton, I mean, he would invade Canada up there to get two Russians. I mean, he's just, these people are. just insane. And unfortunately, they have control of foreign policy right now. I can't see them just handing it back willy-nilly. And that's why I thought that they would try to assassinate them. I'm hearing that they are planning to stage a huge protest in D.C. if he wins, and they want to make it so
Starting point is 02:20:58 bad that he'll be forced to call out the military or the National Guard, basically, and then they'll say, see, he's a dictator. They're planning on blocking absolutely everything he tries to do. So it's important that if he can grab the Senate as well as the House, then you've got something that's going to be very, very interesting indeed. But, the problem is with this election is the Democrats have gone way too far. You know, you started out, you know, anybody who didn't vote for them. Is it deplorable? Then they're a Nazi.
Starting point is 02:21:43 Now they're just garbage. You can't insult half the country. I mean, even Jamie Diamond from Davos said he's barely a Democrat anymore because you You can't insult half the country. And you're getting violence right here. I mean, a campaign manager that I know, she was just attacked on Saturday, just standing at a poll. I mean, they ended up resting the guy.
Starting point is 02:22:15 But, I mean, you have created such a division that I am concerned. Look, two years ago, I said the computer had warned that 2024 could be the last election. I thought it was off the wall then. Now I can see at least how it's possible. You got 70% of the people in California talking about that they would prefer to succeed, you know, if Trump wins. Not the people in the north, though. The North just want to succeed already. you just have such a division.
Starting point is 02:23:00 And it sounded like, okay, fine. When Obama was elected, he didn't vote for him. He just moved on. Big deal. It doesn't seem to be that way at this time. I hope I'm wrong. I mean, the computer is showing that civil unrest is going to rise, particularly going into January.
Starting point is 02:23:22 So Trump is anti-war. So you probably see like the metals come down a bit initially, just as when they thought Ronald Reagan was a warhawk. They went up initially. So it's going to be dicey, but it, you know, the neocons have got control of NATO in Europe. And there are, you know, you can Google. it up, they were trying to raise $100 billion and wanted to make themselves Trump-proof, that they want to keep the funding going for the war. They're the ones wanting to hand that, you know, agreeing to hand long-range missiles to Zelensky.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Ukraine is just our proxy, the same way as his Bala is Iran's proxy. I don't think it was very much of a difference. I know a lot of Ukrainians. And trust me, what they tell me is that if he was on fire, they wouldn't urinate on him until he was dead. They just feel he's a puppet of the West and he's not there really for the Ukrainian people at all. I just want to pick your brain for a sec here. So one of the things has come up a little bit. And, you know, Vance, you're probably going to recognize this little map here. So we're looking at Illinois. And just as an example, you've got a lot of places that are red, which is tiny little pockets of blue.
Starting point is 02:25:00 And the tiny little pockets are enough to sway the popular vote in that state. In Canada, this is really similar to what's happening right now in Manitoba, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and BC. Have you seen anything in the computer about the urban rural divide? And maybe it's resolution or getting worse or anything that happens along those lines in the next little, well, whenever, actually. Well, it's definitely, we're looking at a lot of separation movements in Europe, America, Canada. This is all part of the international division, I think, and politics has become just so divisive. on a global scale. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:25:55 I have friends in Germany. They won't even let their 13-year-old daughter walk to school anymore. You know, they have to rent a car to come pick her up, pick her up, and take her to school. It's too dangerous. I mean, this is crazy. There in Europe, it's worse than the migrants that we've had in North America, mainly because they're, Islam. And so they tend to, you have some of them, there was like over a thousand girls that were raped on New Year's Eve and Germany tried to hide it and said, told the police to take the word
Starting point is 02:26:35 rape out of the reports. I mean, it's a different culture clash over there, much more so than it is here in North America, I think. Martin, good to see you. again, by the way. How you been? Good, good. It's been a long time, like a week, I think, since we talked. You know, when you and I did speak last week, you know, we touched on, you said that you thought Trump would win. What do you think, I mean, I know into January, January 6th, certification and then the inauguration, do you see something happening November, December-ish or you think it'll be calm? No, I don't think it's going to be calm at all.
Starting point is 02:27:30 I got one email from somebody like, well, how do I dress tomorrow? This will be the first Civil War I go to, you know? The computer is showing a major directional change here in November. it's showing rising volatility in December, and January is a very, very sharp spike. It's with these neocons, look, I just know some of these people. Bill Crystal, his father even started that movement. He spoke at one of our conferences in the 90s.
Starting point is 02:28:16 I've known Bill for a long time. he wanted you know I argued against them back then it was if we took out Saddam Hussein Assad out of Syria and Gaddafi we would bring peace to the Middle East I mean they're all into regime change I said you're out of your mind you know but this is what these people do I mean they think they have the right to interfere in other elections and Obama sent up people there to Canada. I mean, I was in London when Tony, you know, Blair was up and who did I bump into, James Carville, you know? I mean,
Starting point is 02:28:59 this is just, they all interplay with each other. It's, they're all been pushing this leftist agenda, and this is what's going on. So, I would expect a lot more violence going into January.
Starting point is 02:29:16 I am very concerned that they will do whatever they possibly can to stop Trump. I don't think the, you know, assassination thing is off the table. The rumor that was going around, which is why he asked for military protection for flying, was that, oh, Iran was sending over terrorists to shoot down his plane. So I think, you know, okay, fine. Somebody, you know, you know, uses a shoulder-mounted rocket. Well, how do you know who it was? And, you know, you're not going to be able to catch him, you know.
Starting point is 02:29:58 The second assassin, look, the Constitution says you have a right to a speedy trial. Look at what they've done with that guy because he didn't get killed. So that presented a problem. Florida is not allowed to investigate, and they asked the judge for a postponement indefinitely for a trial. Totally unconstitutional, but they don't want to put the guy on trial any time before elections, period. What's you going to say? Will we suddenly die of a heart attack like Epstein or what? I mean, even with Epstein, that was very clear.
Starting point is 02:30:44 I had put on our blog. I said the question is, does he commit suicide before he pleads or after? They never will allow somebody that could take down, you know, Clinton, you know, high-level people ever take trial. It just will not, it's not going to happen. So the volatility, do you see it like in the Chicago's and New York's and the L.A. type places? You're going to see it a lot.
Starting point is 02:31:18 But, I mean, mainly Washington, from what I hear, that they're planning a very major protest there. And they want to make it serious enough that he's forced to call out the National Guard so they can then keep up that nonsense. Oh, see, he's a dictator. By the United to call the National Guard, Martin, is what you're saying. not when Trump takes office? Well, for the inauguration. Oh. I mean, this is what's going around.
Starting point is 02:31:53 I mean, does it happen? Does it not? I'm telling you is what sources are saying out of Washington right now. Look, most of these people were calling for Camilla to win. Again, I think our computer was the only one saying a Trump victory. Same thing happened in 2016. Same thing happened with Brexit. The computer's just not doing polls of people.
Starting point is 02:32:24 It's just looking at the economics. People will always, at the end of the day, they're going to vote on their pocketbook. Well, and you know what? If I could make a great point to affirm what you just, said there. DC, 90% end change for Kamala. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:54 If that, that's, that's exactly what you're just saying, Martin, people will vote for their pocketbook. And this is the Ottawa of the states, or you could say that, well, you can flip it around either way. You know, is, is Canada the state's hat or is the states Canada's pants? But 90% in Washington voted Kamala. So yeah, people do vote for what enriches them personally, which actually begs an interesting question.
Starting point is 02:33:26 Should places like Ottawa and Washington have a vote in the elections? Well, you know, look, they, if you look at Georgia, all the districts are red except for the major cities. And that's where they pour them in. And look, you have, Camilla's been out there saying, you know, like, oh, an abortion. You know, complete lie. She knows it's a lie. The Supreme Court's already ruled.
Starting point is 02:34:03 You would, you know, to overrule the Supreme Court would take a constitutional amendment. So then she's got to get it past the Senate and the House. and then every state has to vote on it. Never going to happen. But, I mean, it's the, you know, she's trying something that hasn't been, well, she's throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks at that point when they bring on abortion. Same thing in Canada. They're grasping at coat hangers when it comes to abortion.
Starting point is 02:34:32 Yeah, look, it's, I mean, Justice Ginsburg, you know, she even did a piece in the New York Times. She was there at the Supreme Court when Roe versus Wade was decided. She had nothing to do with women's rights. It was all about eugenics. It was Bill Gates's, you know, father and Planned Parenthood to reduce the population. That's what it was all about. So it's, you know, but then they tell you, oh, it's your right to do this. Oh, okay, my right. Yeah. And they get all riled up about it. Gents, I want to pull us back to the map, if you would, just for a couple of seconds here. You know, we're talking like Donald Trump has won.
Starting point is 02:35:18 At 211, 153, he's 59 short, if I'm not mistaken. And I go, what are you seeing off this that just says, oh, yeah, he's going to win? Once again, I'm the illiterate Canadian sitting up here looking at the map going, how do we you know because from where we've been talking all night long we said the last 60 votes
Starting point is 02:35:40 we're going to be the hardest thing for Trump to get and has that changed somewhere along here because you know when we're talking like Trump is going to be elected I'm just curious what people are seeing that is there anything sticking out on the map
Starting point is 02:35:54 that you're like oh that's why when it sits 211 153 I would say Philadelphia if he can win Pennsylvania, that I think is going to be, I don't think Camilla can win without Pennsylvania. And the other one, which is still kind of close is Virginia. I mean, if he were to take Virginia, I mean, that's clearly it. He's got a lot of ground to make up there.
Starting point is 02:36:31 Philadelphia is starting to look really promising. or pardon me Pennsylvania is starting to look really promising, but Virginia, it's, you know, they're both looking promising, but in the opposite directions
Starting point is 02:36:41 for the opposite people. The other interesting thing, though, is Wisconsin, I would say, not a huge difference, but, you know, close enough, this is the kind of thing that the lieutenant colonel was talking about before.
Starting point is 02:36:55 It's close enough to keep you worried. And then Arizona, you know, it's right neck and neck, 3,000 votes, and just 51% reporting. And then Nevada, over here, it's just being like, screw you guys, we're going to throw it in tomorrow. But I think Georgia and North Carolina are fairly set.
Starting point is 02:37:17 Minnesota's hardly recorded any votes so far, 17%. You got Nebraska at 57%, but they're going to split, you know, within their five. I think it's five in Nebraska? Yeah, five. So I think the ones that are popping out for me right now anyway And feel free for somebody to correct me is Philadelphia, Wisconsin, and in Nevada Well, I'm wondering, you know, Vance, I hate to pick on you,
Starting point is 02:37:49 But, you know, you've been listening along. I'm just kind of curious. What are your thoughts, you know, like when you stare at the map Or when you listen to Martin, when you're listening to everybody talk? I'm just, you know, to add you kind of back into the conversation, What have your thoughts been as, you know, we're discussing? this idea that Trump is going to get there.
Starting point is 02:38:07 I don't know. I'm just curious. One of the things that we got, we got people sitting in from all over the United States right now. Talk about this. I was just kind of curious from St. Louis where you're sitting, you know, listen to all this. What's your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, it looks like he's going to win Georgia.
Starting point is 02:38:23 I've been watching the New York Times because I figure if they give any to Trump, they probably do it begrudgingly. So they right now have it at 230 for Trump, 187 for Harris. And Georgia is looking like it might go. They've already called North Carolina for Trump. And so, you know, I still think it's anybody's game. It's looking like Wisconsin is leaning towards Trump. Looks like Michigan is also leaning there. Pennsylvania, I mean, those three states, I think, are probably going to make or break. If we call Georgia
Starting point is 02:38:57 for Trump, it looks like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin would put him over. the top on that. Yeah, 2.30 now. Like, he just, it seems so close yet, you know, like it's also so far away. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong on that because he hit 200 a while back. And it's been this slow tick now to try and get any more traction after that. And once again, these are the battleground states that everybody talks about.
Starting point is 02:39:22 Well, it doesn't it seem to have all the West Coast, we have in California is a big one. Martin, doesn't it seem, though, at this, at this point where we're sitting. right now. I mean, he is stronger than what he was in 2020. And you would really need some, I don't want to swear on your show, Sean. Do it. Do it. Some late night fuckery like last time, where pipes break or whatever, like, you know, resume counting at 4 a.m. or the same tactics. And I thought that would, that was the playbook they were going to use. And, but I, I don't know. I, I don't think they're going to be able to get away with it now. There's too many votes they've got to find to make up the difference in Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina.
Starting point is 02:40:08 Well, there's a lot of duffel bags in the world. You're absolutely right, though, about the chicanery in the middle of the night. Like, if we were smart, we would keep this live stream going until, like, 7 a.m. Nope. Exactly. I'm thinking Revenge of the Nerds. Remember, everybody put those cameras at the sorority house, Revenge of the Nerds, and they were watching it all night?
Starting point is 02:40:29 Nobody knows that. I'd rather be there in person, more like what happened in Porky's. But yeah, continue. But I will say this, the betting markets have gone absolutely nuts for Trump. They're saying 90%. Elon Musk is saying game set match. The Bitcoin price, again, it just hit new highs, 74,500. So, I mean, it's looking like the objective measures that aren't counting the votes
Starting point is 02:40:59 are looking like they are They're all swaying to Trump. They're all saying the underlying little things that we're staring at are all going. It's going Trump's way. Yeah, look, even our market forecasting that the computer did tend to look like it was going to move towards Trump.
Starting point is 02:41:19 Well, we were looking at a polymarket an hour ago, maybe an hour and a half ago, and it was 80% Trump, and now it's 94-7. Yeah. And that's in the past, hour. I had a listener text
Starting point is 02:41:35 me, Martin, asking specifically, you know, let's play out this scenario. Trump wins here. Then the next roughly 90 days becomes the next important stretch, if you would, until he's inaugurated. And they're wondering, how
Starting point is 02:41:50 dangerous of a time is that? One, and two, do they up the security on him because he becomes, you know, well, They don't want to up the security on it. Well, I know what you mean, but I'm just curious. Like in that 90 days, is that a standard thing for the winner to all sudden grab more security?
Starting point is 02:42:14 Or you're like, maybe not. Previously, no. It was never that big of an issue. This election is clearly, you know, it's so divided. I mean, it's the, the Democrats have used such hatred. That's the whole problem. That it's not like vote for me because my policy is this and his policy is that. No, he's garbage.
Starting point is 02:42:44 He's, he's Nazis. I mean, when you start getting into that, it's, you're not running an election. You're basically running a smear match. Even at the Democratic Convention, I think they threw his name out, it was more like a hate fest. It was 289 times. 289 times what? They threw out his name at the Democratic
Starting point is 02:43:11 Convention. Oh, okay, yep. I mean, it's a psychological tactic. Like Saddam Hussein. Oh, he's gassing his people. He's doing this. They demonize the person to justify
Starting point is 02:43:27 going in and killing, you know, basically everybody is even associated with them. They're doing that to Putin, all right? They tried it with Assad, and they're using it domestically with Trump. And the problem with that is that it does psychologically damage people. And then, I mean, you looked at some of the polls from Democrats, 70% were saying that Russia is our greatest enemy. I mean, it's just California is your greatest enemy
Starting point is 02:44:04 Pardon me California is your greatest enemy Yes, now the enemy is within basically I mean Look, the old days of empire building Are not valid anymore Russia's not interested in conquering Europe and occupying it
Starting point is 02:44:26 and no more than China is interested in occupying the United States. But these neocons are, honestly, I can tell you because I was in D.C. When Gorbachev made his speech, and Reagan wanted to go meet with him. And they told him back then, all right, they couldn't say it was a communist. So they said, oh, you can just never trust the Russian. So it turned from hatred of communism to just racism or something. You know, it's anti-Asian racism of all kinds. Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:45:10 These people, I think, were psychologically damaged in the 50s when we had a hide underneath our desks, you know, for air raids or something. And Russia was going to nuke us any day or whatever. And they just never got over that, I guess. I don't know. Isn't it funny how when you scare a bunch of children for several years simultaneously, they end up scarred afterwards? He said hypothetically right after the whole lockdown thing.
Starting point is 02:45:37 Martin, I wanted to ask you, every time I've seen you on Sean's show, you've always got the computer run in the background. Can you tell us what's going on back there real quick? Or is that super top secret? No, that's just, just preparing for, we're doing a conference. at the end of the week. So this is, you know, just grains, wheat up here. And over here, I'm just writing reports for, we have to hand out at the conference.
Starting point is 02:46:07 Oh, you took down all the sexy stuff before we came on board. Unless, of course, you're in Missouri, in which case you want to see everything about the grain prices. Now, we have a lot of, a lot of farmers, cattlemen. You know, the big guys, U.S., Australia, so, you know, they fly in for this event. They want to know what's going on. Martin, can I ask you one question real quick. You know, what do you say to people, regular people that, you know, are going to celebrate this Trump victory? And they think, oh, I can go back to 2019, go back to the couch and my fantasy football and lattes and my blissfully unaware stage.
Starting point is 02:46:56 life what do you say to that um well i i'm not so sure they're going to be doing that after they start seeing the reactions um i mean i would like to hope we could that they'll just settle down zara i find he won and just go about your business but um i don't know i just don't see that so easily this time they just they just turned it into such a hate fest It's just, you know, it's not just not the way you run politics. I want to say thanks to Vance Crowe for hopping in tonight. He's going to sign off from St. Louis as we get into the long hours of the live stream. Appreciate you coming on, Vance, and giving us some insight from your eyes.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Appreciate you, you know, coming along for the Canadians trying to, you know, compete with the CNN or whatever. maybe we're definitely the CBC up here, Hey, Toos. You know what? We're probably, we're probably not too far away from CNN, although I will say to their credit, they have really tried to have a lot more nuanced and honest coverage of this election, although I do suspect that it's because if Trump wins, they're going to make a shit ton of money. Well, thanks for having me on, guys. This is a blast, and it's fun to see Canada taking some.
Starting point is 02:48:27 much interest in what we're doing. We'll see you guys around. Sounds good. You guys, you guys are kind of like our, you know, pet squirrels. We don't want you to get shot. Thanks, fans. Always loves seeing that guy. Yeah, I agree. As we close in on, you know, like, once again, Marty, I don't want to, I don't want to keep you for too long. You tell me, you know, if you got time and you want to hang out with us, you're more than welcome to, but if you're like, nope, you know, because you've been on. I am going to have to leave you. here. I got... Sure.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Well, I tell you what... Yeah. Yeah, no, Marty, then one final thought for me. Just, you know, where we sit at the election right now, I'm just going to pull it up real fast. I don't know if anybody has the offhand here. Let's just pull it up. It is 2-11-153 still. Is that where we're at?
Starting point is 02:49:17 I thought it was 230. So there's 231.92 is AP, and I think that's the New York Times, I want to say, also running the same stuff. and then CNN is running 211.153. Fair enough. So if you look at that, if you look at that 230, I think they're thinking a little bit slightly further ahead than CNN does. Go with that, though.
Starting point is 02:49:44 Okay, fair enough. Well, Martin, one final thought from you then as we close in on, you know, you know, at some point, I assume they're going to announce, but you never know. The way our elections have been going up here, they drag and you know bc drag drag drag drag drag drag drug it on for over a week counting mail-in ballots and then all and then they've found some today and they found more and i feel like we've all heard this story before but um you know uh if you had one final thought for the viewers um fire
Starting point is 02:50:10 away just i'm just concerned that we're looking at um a rise in civil unrest if they take this away from trump anyway shape or form uh with more mail imbalance and And if you look at one thing the computer did do, it also said that this would be a huge turnout. And it was projecting somewhere around at least 65, maybe up to 70 percent turnout. I mean, I think there was early voting was only 12 million back in 2016. You're looking at over 82 million this time. and over 40 million are mail-in ballots. And I'm waiting to verify, but I got emails coming in from D.C. saying that the Pentagon forgot to send mail-in ballots to all the troops overseas.
Starting point is 02:51:14 Those are the only people you should be sending them to. The guys who actually are risking their lives, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, if they wanted to vote, they shouldn't have been enlisted during an election cycle. What I can tell you is that I had information about last, you, the January 6th event. The reason Pelosi was reluctant to call in the National Guard
Starting point is 02:51:45 is because they were afraid that most of them were Trump support. And I know some of the who are actually even asked, who did you vote for? So, I mean, they were afraid that they might then join the crowd and overthrow them. But so this one is probably going to be just as hot and furious, I would think, come January. Let's see what happens, but with over 44 million mail-in ballots, that's a lot that they can play with too. Well, we appreciate you hopping on, Marty, and doing this. All the best.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Look forward to having you on the show here at some point. Again, I mean, obviously right now we're having you on the show. But always appreciate when you give us some of your time. Look forward to seeing what you bring out next. But thanks again for hopping on with us, Marty. Thank you for inviting me, and good luck up there. Nice talking. Good to see you, Martin.
Starting point is 02:52:54 And then, of course, I kicked him out. Thanks, Martin. I kicked him out, and I was like, oh, I'm just, anyways. Thanks, Martin, for hopping on. You know, now, Mike, you started it out, and you're the last going with a couple of Canadians talking U.S. election. That's a great. Hold out.
Starting point is 02:53:10 It's like 100 games. I agree. You're like, you are the chosen one. At any point, if you're like, you know what, I just got to bow out, boys, we completely understand. We're sitting here, and I'm watching this, and I'm going, like, you know, we've done this now four times where we sit and we wait for them to call on election. Now, in BC, we had to bow out. Oh, and then, of course, my, what, my camera, can you hear me?
Starting point is 02:53:33 Yeah, we can hear you sadly. Oh, my goodness. I tell you what, I'm going to get my camera working. You're far prettier as the, I bet you think that. We're better looking than you are right now. significantly. Actually, I mean,
Starting point is 02:53:48 camera or not, camera or not. But to be fair, Michael, I don't think Sean's ever looked so good. He does. You're a handsome,
Starting point is 02:53:57 you're a handsome Canadian, Sean. Yeah, you can't just, just right now, right now? Real funny. The color texture
Starting point is 02:54:05 is just amazing. Yeah, it's a great contrast. All I was going to say is that you look taller. The Avatar's shiny head is probably a great representation.
Starting point is 02:54:14 Here's a funny thing, Mike. This is funny for Toos to say about me. For a full year, we used to do the show and then put a box over Two's head because he was worried about being exposed. Now he's going to chime in on how good I look. I made you look good for a year, Bucco, all right? That's what I did for you with a big old two to. He's just so bitter. Have you ever noticed how bitter the guy is?
Starting point is 02:54:40 Can I? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. That's it. That's it. He's gone. He's removing me from the studios what's happening. There's a coup, civil arrest. This is January selection.
Starting point is 02:54:55 A2 Bouté. No, you know what I'm thinking about right now? Sean, I don't know if you and I were talking about this when I was on your show. I love boxing. And there's a documentary called Woodward Kings about the Rumble in the Jungle, Muhammad and George Foreman. And when George Foreman finally gets knocked down, if you've ever, the documentary is fantastic, but he, Mahatma Ali was not supposed to win that fight.
Starting point is 02:55:18 And Foreman ends up going down and Norman Mailer, who was commentating, you know, on the, on the documentary, I'm by myself now. Oh, sorry. I, I, I, I, I was just, stop messing around with the cameras. Oh my goodness. But Foreman goes down and Ali wins. And Norman Mailer is like, he did it. He's champion again. We couldn't believe it. That's what's running. through my head right now with this whole Trump thing. Like, I'm just like, I mean, the guy, the guy got shot. Everybody loves a comeback story.
Starting point is 02:55:53 It's just, it's just, you know, I know it's not called yet, but I mean, it looks like he's going to pull it off. Well, I'm looking at it. And, you know, the numbers are strong in Pennsylvania. And, and Nevada is just starting to come in. It's 2%, which is way too early. But when you look at it, so here's. here's what I've been mucking around with in the background.
Starting point is 02:56:17 And Sean goes to it every once in a while. I was like, that's not the right map. But, you know, if you leave Nebraska and Maine as kind of in the middle sort of things, you've got roughly what we're looking at here. And it's got Trump at 276.
Starting point is 02:56:35 Because I think Alaska and Hawaii are pretty much foregone conclusions. And I think they cancel each other out, or pretty close anyway. And so, So, you know, this is roughly what I'm looking at in terms of how I think it's going to finalize. And even if Nevada ends up going blue, you're still 270. So it's not a foregone conclusion, but I think it's starting to look pretty damn promising for old orange man, bad. You're muted.
Starting point is 02:57:13 Yeah, I, yeah, I just, yeah, I was planning like to go to bed early and now I feel like I got to stay up, you know, for a while to see, see what transpire, you know, how this plays out. Well, I mean, it's, it's interesting, you know, it's just that kind of classic ticking clock. But it's even more fun because you're looking at 50 different ticking clocks. And you're like, oh, what's going on over here and what's going on over here and what's going on over here? You know, you got Puerto Rico, which to the best of my knowledge, their vote has no outcome, or they don't even vote in this, right? They're just sort of along for the ride, however it goes, right? Is that more or less correct? No, they're not involved in this.
Starting point is 02:58:02 I don't know that answer for sure, but Puerto Rico doesn't play a part of this. Yeah, because, I mean, you guys have 50 official states, but you've got Puerto Rico and I think a couple other ones. that are just sort of tag alongs where they don't vote, they don't have a saying things, but they also don't have a share in the national debt. And if you guys ever want to extend that opportunity to Alberta, we would be very interested in hearing how that goes. Right. And, you know, we've got a lot of hardworking folks and a lot of natural resources,
Starting point is 02:58:38 although I will say that the natural resources in Canada don't magically end at the the Alberta border. It's just that the other provinces aren't inclined to develop theirs. And Brenda, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. I was just going to say, Brandon in the comment says, did Sean do a beer run? I think he might. I'm not sure what's going on.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Maybe he's just really sad and he needs to put on an extra hat. But in the meantime, what were you going to ask? Oh, no, I was just saying, how are you guys feeling up north right now? with regards to what? Just politically where things are at or the direction or I haven't talked to anybody in Canada in a little while. Well, we hate the way things are federally. And then the liberals just announced a big emissions cap on the oil and gas sector, which is interesting because if you really cared, you would put an emissions cap on every sector because you care about the environment, right? But the liberals have kind of, their one main go-to right now is to fight with people.
Starting point is 02:59:51 It's the only time their poll numbers go up is when they're fighting with somebody. And so they pick the fight with Alberta to presumably try and get back from a giant deficit in popular, well, polling, basically. And so now you've got this sort of Alberta versus Ottawa thing, which it sucks because Sean and I are in Alberta. And you got this thing where we get fights picked with us. And whenever we're punch back, we're the bad guys. But how do you not punch back? And it's this brutal catch 22 that Confederation is. And honestly, as far as I'm concerned, we can't leave soon enough.
Starting point is 03:00:40 and Sean and I were just at the UCP, which is the governing party in Alberta. We were just their AGM this weekend. And the biggest round of applause that anybody had all weekend was a guy saying that Alberta needs to separate. So, you know, things are pretty broken in Confederation. I lose my camera for five minutes. I can't get it back on it. So I'm running off this camera. Come back and now we're talking separation of Alberta.
Starting point is 03:01:07 I'm like, what did I miss here? Hey? be frozen oh my god this is my sign that i'm not allowed to do anything anymore well what were you trying to do when that popped up i'm gonna jump off guys all right fair enough unless you uh i appreciate you having me on sean great to meet you
Starting point is 03:01:33 yeah absolutely mike thanks for thanks for sticking around for three hours of of live coverage appreciate you're an absolute trooper and I have the exact same level of appreciation. Thank you very much, Michael. Oh, no, thanks a lot. Thanks for inviting me. And it's great to chat with you guys. And look forward to more conversations.
Starting point is 03:01:54 Before you roll out, Sean introduced you as being the host of a podcast. Could you remind everybody else listening to what it is? Yeah, it's called Coffee and a Mike. Mm-hmm. So I'm on Twitter, Rumble, Instagram, Facebook, but mostly Twitter. I use X and my video channel is on Rumble. You can find me on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. If you like Tom Luongo and Alex Traynor and Stephen Murray and all these characters, Dave Callum,
Starting point is 03:02:26 they're a regular fixture on coffee and a mic. I got her coming out tomorrow. Sean, you should get her on your show. I should get Diana West on. You're absolutely right. I'll bug you about that offline. Who's Diana West and why is she coming on the podcast? I mean, aside from the book.
Starting point is 03:02:43 This is her book. She's wrote a few books, but I just wanted to chat with her about the election tomorrow. So she was on a couple weeks ago. I had her and Dave Collum on together. And I kind of have a, I kind of joke around, a separate series coffee in a column. You know, Dave Collum and I will, you know, reach out to Dave and then have other people on. So Diana West was, you know, somebody that he had mentioned, I was not aware of. So we talked about her book.
Starting point is 03:03:13 And then tomorrow I just want to get her inside of what she thinks about what's going on in the election. Dave, Dave Collum tonight told me, Mike, that he said my wife would kill me and I'll have to pass. It moves too slowly anyways. I'm like, Dave Collum would be the perfect for this. Sit and banter for four hours. You kidding me? You would have been fantastic. Have you had him on?
Starting point is 03:03:34 Have you talked to him? Dave Call him? Yeah. Yes, several times. Yeah, really, he's such an easy guy to talk to. You know, that guy, man, it's interesting about this, about him, because he can, you know, I watch him on other shows. I hadn't seen him on yours. I have to go find it.
Starting point is 03:03:51 But I just watch him on Daniela Camboni on ITM trading from a couple weeks ago. I've watched him with Marty Bent for Bitcoin, TFC. And you go, and you listen to him, and there's always something different that you can grab. He can just go in so many different directions. And it's amazing he can, the way he can absorb information, I mean, he just reads books, listens to audio books and podcasts all the time. And is in circles with some of the most interesting people on the planet. All over the board.
Starting point is 03:04:24 Like you can talk to them, I mean, it's one thing to talk about chemistry because you're organic chemist of Cornell. But I mean, you get into the economy, geopolitics, domestic issues. I mean, it's just there's so many different lanes you can go on. I mean, I'll chat with him. His show with Daniela was 38 minutes or 45 minutes or something. And I'm like, oh, that's it. I've talked to him for two and a half hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:04:47 See, people like that are tricky, though, because you're just like, it doesn't matter what direction you want to go in. It's always the right direction to go. And so you're like, oh, you know what? I'd love to pick his brain about this. And then you end up going here and you got 50 other things that you could ask him about. There would be great conversations that never even happen. Well, it's just all. And it's all the more reason to just keep bringing him back on.
Starting point is 03:05:11 And the way the world is, you know, the carousel is going right now. There's just always something to talk about. Like I wanted to do a whole pre-election thing, you know, as many as I could get in. Like I had Matt Brackett on yesterday. And then Carl Deninger, which Sean, if you haven't had him on yet, the ticker guy, that's another great conversation. But, you know, as soon as these results come in, whole new set of conversations that we can have. Last week I had Dave and Jim on, counselor. Well, the thing is, is like, now that we're starting to have a clear picture of where this is going, right?
Starting point is 03:05:46 227, 165, I show also, I also show the other one at 230 to 205 now. So, you know, that one's tightening up. I assume some of that's starting to play out, which means like, you know, like whichever way this falls, you know, there's been so much speculation. You know, like, talking about the Cornerstone Forum, where Tom and Alex, and a few others are coming up to Canada, to Calgary to talk in May. I was, I got to ask yesterday, well, who else is coming? I'm like, I can't even ask people.
Starting point is 03:06:19 I mean, the U.S. election is, you know, at the time, a couple weeks away. Like, people are so focused on it. There's nothing, there's nothing to talk about but this. This is the Super Bowl of Super Bowls. And until you get past this, you actually don't know what direction the United States is taking. And for the entire world, that's a big, what if, a big question mark of like where are we going?
Starting point is 03:06:42 And so like, you know, one of the things with all the people you're talking about is as soon as this finally gets in, you know, like it'll be interesting because it will change conversations if Donald Trump's in or Kamala Harris is in. Because there will be no well what if. The what if is going to be gone here hopefully tonight. But you know, like you just never know. We witnessed this when Tuesday and I did BC election live coverage probably two weeks ago now. where we sat up until midnight and they just wouldn't give us the result. And then it was still a week after
Starting point is 03:07:14 and they were counting Melons. I'm like, this is wild. We should have just been live streaming the whole time. We could have just been, you know, like take a little nap here and there like Jamie Sinclair and having a good time. The funny thing is, though, is you're absolutely right,
Starting point is 03:07:29 is that the conversations that people are wanting to have, they're really holding off, depending on how this goes. Like Trump said day one, he's going to, approved keystone Excel, which technically is just, yeah, yeah. Now, I don't know, I don't know on the business side of it where they're at and whether they're prepared to accept that and prepared to move forward.
Starting point is 03:07:56 Donald Trump doesn't say that without having a couple of conversations. That's just my gut feeling on that, that he would have had had some conversations to the business side of things. Mike, I don't want to hold you in on this conversation. You'd mentioned that you were going to hop out, and then we got talking about your podcast and all the wonderful things you're doing there. You don't have to stick in with me and twos because we're going to sit here in badger.
Starting point is 03:08:17 I was just going to add really quick, though, to what you guys are saying, this is only, and what Martin just said, this is the beginning. And this carousel, I think, will accelerate. And it provides a great opportunity, I think, for what we're doing. Because people, you know, reminds me of COVID after 2020.
Starting point is 03:08:36 Remember New Year's Eve at 2020. People like personally, you know, like we're posting. Thank God 2020 is over. Like, and January 1st, it's going to be a new day. And like this is all going to be behind us. Well, you know, obviously it wasn't. Buckle up. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:49 And this is, I feel like this is the same thing, but potentially worse, right? Because the economic havoc that's coming, I don't know how much Trump, you know, you can't just move around levers to fix all this. And, and we'll see. I always say we'll see my whole life. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But, well, I mean, you're never wrong. There's going to be a lot of opportunity. Yeah, right. I'm wrong about this. I didn't think he'd win. I mean, you know, he hasn't yet, but I did not think he would win. So. You obviously, I mean, you didn't think it'd be this close either than, Mike, you thought it would by this time, you know, because where we sit right now off the one map, 23, 165. I mean, the other map has her at 205. So, I mean, take.
Starting point is 03:09:36 that for a grain of salt but um you know if this got locked in exactly where everything is and Alaska goes red and Hawaii goes blue which is what they're largely expected to do you've got a trump victory here with this the way this map is right now and I guess and even if Arizona goes the other way which it's neck and neck right now and you know talking to everybody in Arizona tonight even with that it's still a Trump victory Yeah, I just come back to with Mike. And actually, Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Murray, retired Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Murray, both the surprise at where we're sitting right now.
Starting point is 03:10:16 I just, I hear the surprise. I see the surprise on Mike's face. And that's very interesting to me. I got to go watch that scene from that movie because that's exactly what I've been playing in my head. Like, he did it. He's champion again. We couldn't believe it. Have you ever seen that documentary?
Starting point is 03:10:33 I don't know what you're talking about. No, it's old. So they filmed it during the Rumble and the Jungle. Yeah, Muhammad Ali? Yeah, Winware King. Hold on. Yeah, do you remember when Foreman got knocked down? And Norman Mailer was the gray-haired.
Starting point is 03:10:48 And he said, he did it. He's champion again. We couldn't believe it. And that's what I'm like, that scene is just playing out of my head right now. And I know he hasn't been declared it yet, but you're just like, this is, this is going to happen. So you think this is just a run. Rocky 3 moment for Trump, basically. Like with Thunderlips or?
Starting point is 03:11:09 No, no, Muhammad Ali, not Rocky 3. Well, no, but with Rocky 3 where he gets knocked down early, he's out of the count, and then he does a nice montage on the beach, and the next thing you know, he recaptures the eye of the tiger and he comes back to win it. Oh, that's a comic movie. Like, Muhammad Ali, the real documentary. Not Rocky 4 or the Russian. Yeah, like the real.
Starting point is 03:11:31 He's saying, like, as you're sitting, as you're sitting. As you're sitting there watching Muhammad Ali get pummeled and he's still doing his thing, he's saying you can literally see it. This guy's going to win. Well, it was like the whole strategy of that fight. You know, they showed the training in Pennsylvania where he was, Larry Holmes was one of his sparring partners and he was allowing Holmes to pummel him to the body to condition himself for that fight.
Starting point is 03:11:55 And then, you know, the rope had opened those first four or five rounds, I mean, he executed to a tee. And then all of a sudden, for him it was gassed out. and Mahalo put him away in like the ninth round, I think. So I don't know. It's just, it's just, you know, I'm really glad that I'm a part of this. You know, this recording will be here and I always have to reference it because, you know, you can say you're right. This is history.
Starting point is 03:12:21 I was wrong. I was way, way, way wrong. But this is history. And to be able to capture this moment forever on video and audio is pretty cool, Sean. So thank you. Well, Mike, thanks for. Thanks for hopping on. Thank you very truly.
Starting point is 03:12:38 I mean this, like, with all due sincerity. I'm like, I can't imagine a couple of Americans saying, hey, would you hop on a live stream? We're going to cover the Canadian election. I'd be like, sure, yeah, great. You know, because, like, that's exactly what we've done here, is we've just been, like, you know, you guys don't probably realize this.
Starting point is 03:12:55 Maybe you do, I don't know. But living up here in Canada, we, at times, talk more about American politics than Canadian politics. It actually drives me nuts. It's why I interview so many Canadians. Because I'm like, we got to start talking about her own shit. Like we can't, you know, we can't we can't just stare at Trump, Biden, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, all these names. Well, you don't want to stare at Hillary too long or she'll just shoot you.
Starting point is 03:13:20 But I mean like it's, you know, like appreciate you coming on and doing this and staying up, you know, late enough. You know, we're well over three hours now into this. and if we didn't have Americans hop on, he didn't do's get a bantered, but you came along for our version of trying to, you know, just pay attention to what the polls are saying, because there's no changing it now, right?
Starting point is 03:13:45 We're just staring and talking about what's actually coming out and talking about it. There's no changing it now. Do you know what's the last election? Sure, sure. But, Mike, appreciate you hopping on and doing this. Hopefully we'll be in touch. And best of luck with your interviews tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:14:00 Thanks. to you guys as well and appreciate the invite and we'll talk soon. Thanks, Michael. See you guys. Good night. All right. And before we jump in anything else, just shout out to vitamin D. Thanks for tuning in.
Starting point is 03:14:14 Yeah. And Michael Ring, he gave a shout out to Sean earlier, but not to me. I noticed. That's right, Tews, because I'm awesome. I want to make sure. I'm pretty sure it was a sympathy shout. I haven't brought this up. Today is sponsored West Can Grills and Smokers.
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Starting point is 03:15:59 And anywhere in Alberta, Saskatchew and British Columbia. I don't know. I disagree with you. I don't think we're going to see that in the middle of the night. I have the feeling that Trump's going to win. I'm, you know, like I don't want to, I look at it and I go like,
Starting point is 03:16:14 I don't want to jump the gun because I show 230-209 now on the Google map. So take that for whatever it's worth. I would love to be watching CNN right now to see what they're saying, if they're getting excited or, you know, because if you go back to... Well, there was the big breakdown in 2016. Yeah, guys like Sank Huger,
Starting point is 03:16:37 who were just losing their mind on live television, right? Well, but I go back to recently. We were both in Red Deer for Daniel Smith's leadership vote. And as the count was coming out, so if I can give it a little bit of the backstory, right? Like the Friday night into Saturday morning, I think there was a little pent-up nerves that maybe she gets voted out. And I remember telling people like, she ain't getting voted out.
Starting point is 03:17:03 I didn't think it was going to be 91.5. But at the same time, I'm like, uh, I was like, she ain't getting voted out. I didn't think it was going to be 91.5. But regardless, the reason why I bring up, uh, the UCP, um, HGM is when they knew or when they had the end of pre count or whatever, all the staffers started running around like and getting people ready to go on stage. Everybody was really giddy, happy.
Starting point is 03:17:29 you could just see it. I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, something, they got good news. Because you could just see it, their reaction to it. So, you know, if you're on CNN right now,
Starting point is 03:17:38 and you're going, oh, man, yeah, it's tightening up, but like, look at the numbers, look at where it's going, or are they starting to get excited?
Starting point is 03:17:46 Because I think that's a little bit of a telltale. So if anyone's in the comments is paying attention to, you know, CNN or any of those guys, I'd love to know. Because one of the things that was sitting on this side,
Starting point is 03:17:57 we've just been staring at this map. and seeing it slowly grow, right? And right now it says 231.82. The map I show on Google says 23209. And you go, it's somewhere in between probably. He's still 40 away. Interesting thing. Hawaii's already been called for Kamala,
Starting point is 03:18:14 despite nobody's voted in it. Interesting. But, well, you know the thing I really would love to see? And this is where we need a producer. I'll tell you this much, Sean, is we need somebody looking at the live reactions like I want to see that woman in green going, and I want to see everybody else losing their damn minds over this election.
Starting point is 03:18:41 And we're not going to, we're not going to be able to have that. That's actually probably what we should have thought through. Sean left. So this is probably a great time for me to tell you about, oh, I don't even know. But I tell you what to. You realize I have my headphones on and I can hear you.
Starting point is 03:18:57 I was just trying to grab some of Saskatchewans fine. Where am I going here? One of these? There we go. Two's left them here. So I thought, oh, what the heck? Showing these. Why the heck is the guy's name twos?
Starting point is 03:19:12 So why the fact is the guy's name twos? Because my Twitter handle is 222 minutes. And that's a little bit laborious. And so twos is better if you're not in a little brevity thing. Hey, Phil. Thanks for commenting. Uh, people on X are talking about how the CBC is melting down. You see in that comment?
Starting point is 03:19:35 Well, I'm going to pull it up here. Uh, so Shannon says people on X are talking about how CBC is melting down and comparing his tactics to Hitler. Oh yeah. Yeah. I, I think the, I honestly, I think watching the CBC could be fun right now too, because you could just like probably make fun of the entire feed as it goes along because I mean, like, we should pull it up, too.
Starting point is 03:19:53 You should pull it up if you can. Um, I would love to see what the CBC's, uh, live streaming. I'm sure we can just feed it on here. Yes? I don't know. Let's see. They've just got a map. I don't know if there's a video stream to look at.
Starting point is 03:20:10 It'll be YouTube. Go YouTube and search. Live election results. Yeah. Many of our cities, large and small across the country, coming up from the south. And that had put a lot of pressure and a lot of neighborhoods. And they used that to create a lot of fear, more fear than I think that was necessary. but it was a real problem and it had and it continues to be and so those are things that did that the democrats
Starting point is 03:20:36 thought that the abortion issue would offset that and the and the protection of democracy but it so for those of you can't tell i just put in the chat i said you guys suck and then please die gracefully and it's funny because we're we're looking at them talking about abortion because what do they care about wedge issues and wedge issues that are important to Canadian voters, but not actual Canadian voters, just Laurentians in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal. And so they're turning this whole thing into an election debate. And let's be clear, Roe v. Wade, all it did was it just kicked it down from the federal government to the state government. So they just said, everybody, each individual state can pick their own, they can make their own decision.
Starting point is 03:21:29 And so, here's them losing their minds about Roe v. Wade without actually having an honest conversation about it. This is what we tuned in for. And it's dumb. I don't know. Can we go back? Can I scroll back through this and see like them starting to get upset? Oh, here's Rosie Barton. What was very distasteful for some people. I wanted to bring it up because I thought the young man who was was enjoying his evening. Isaac said that the authoritarian message the Democrats were trying to stick on to Trump didn't stick. But I know that it is of concern here.
Starting point is 03:22:07 When I talked to Frank McKenna, he was the former ambassador, Canada's former ambassador to the United States. He said that he believes that a second term for Trump would be Trump unleashed. And he believes that because the people around him that sort of kept him, you know, on the right course largely. Sorry, did they just say that Trump's first term was on the right course? Is that what they're saying? Is that what they're accidentally admitting? These fucking idiots, Sean, they're just sad, pathetic, boring, and dumb. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:22:48 I wanted to pull it up just to see what was going on, CBC-wise. The comments, the comments are just, just, People vote Harris to save lives. Okay, well, whatever. But like Trump, MAGA, Canada likes Trump, something in Punjabi, Polly have Trump, go Trump. Come on, Harris.
Starting point is 03:23:12 Trump, Trump, Trump. I'd be curious, you know, as much as I want to stare at the CBC. I'm, I'm done. I'm done. Can you pull up, can you pull back up the map we were staring at? I would love to know from the people tuning in, you know this is this is if they've tuned in to all of them um this is the fourth time we've done it so we
Starting point is 03:23:33 started with the alberta uh election election last year then we did then we did the bc provincial election the sask election and now the u.s election um i'm just curious like what what is everybody's thoughts been uh on it you know like um it just curious you know like obviously we're not through it It's 230, 182 on that map. And, you know, like right now on... Everything's starting to get more galvanized. Like, this is 98% Georgia. Oh, 93% Georgia.
Starting point is 03:24:08 And they're up by 140 or 1206,000 votes. And they still haven't called it. They still haven't called Georgia. Yeah. Okay. All right. Pennsylvania, you know, they're up by almost 150,000 or more than 150,000 votes. Still hasn't called Pennsylvania despite the fact that it's 85%.
Starting point is 03:24:33 Those two right there. How many Georgia is 16 and I think Pennsylvania is 19? Yes. So you're looking at, you're looking at 35. And that puts him at 265. all he has to do at that point is get Michigan, which is 48%, Wisconsin, which is 78%, and he's up by not a huge amount, but a decent amount. Arizona, again, a coin toss, and Nevada is 73%, but only 2% in so far. And Alaska's three, so.
Starting point is 03:25:15 Willis is saying Georgia is called. Can we find that out? Is that true? Georgia's not called for CNN and George is not called for AP or New York Post. But honestly, at this point, why are they not calling it? But you look, Pennsylvania and Georgia get called. You're in 265. You need another five.
Starting point is 03:25:38 You get three from Alaska. Two seconds ago, global exclusive. Wait a second. Who the heck is this thing? Never mind. We're not even going to go with that. We're never going to get. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 03:25:47 Don't worry about it. I'm trying to dig on it. I'm like, you know, if that's the case, let's find out, you know? If they get one of the, okay, well, actually, according to this, they've got Nebraska locked up. But they get one of the main votes. Willis said he was, Willis said he was listening to Crowder on Rumble. That's why he's saying they called it.
Starting point is 03:26:06 I can't see it on X, though, is the only thing to the listeners tuning in here. I just, I haven't seen it. And Tews is pulling up on the map, and it hasn't popped up there either. Okay. So Georgia gets locked in, Nevada or Georgia gets locked in, Pennsylvania gets locked in, Alaska gets locked in, and they need just one more spot somewhere else. Because they're probably going to get one of the main ones, but even if they don't, getting one more somewhere else. So now the Democrats have to come behind in Michigan where they're down by almost 200,000 votes with half of them in. they're down by
Starting point is 03:26:49 100,000 votes with 80% in I would like to have the I wish we would have covered it last time because then we could be like at this time last time they were only up by 20,000 you know when it when it's too big to steal
Starting point is 03:27:04 that mantra is 100,000 too big to steal I actually don't know I have zero clue I'm like is 100,000 like a couple trucks come in and boom and all of a sudden switches watching Charlie Kirk they called Georgia as well well they should have called like we're not calling individual states maybe we should be so the people are like oh yeah the magic just called
Starting point is 03:27:27 just called New Mexico but the way it is right now Georgia and Pennsylvania really look like they're going Trump which means that the only and Alaska is pretty much guaranteed going Trump. So the only way to win is if Kamala sweeps Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada, and Arizona, which, yeah, I guess technically it's still in play, but I was looking at it, assuming that she was going to win it. Donald Trump up by 11,000 now in Arizona?
Starting point is 03:28:05 Is that what I'm seeing? Just under? So you've got 61 million votes for Trump, by the way. and less than 57 for Kamala. So you know that argument that who's that crazy lady who just tries to kill everybody who disagrees with her? Hillary Clinton. So Hillary Clinton complained that she didn't, she won the popular vote, but she didn't win the election. And then didn't make that same argument when Trump won the popular vote later on.
Starting point is 03:28:38 But. Okay. Michael, why did you give a shout out to Sean and not a shout out? You know why, Michael. You know why. Michael says Daily Wire says Trump will win Arizona. Willis says call PA, you can do it. I'm going to call PA. And Leanne Taylor says election wizard on X called Georgia too. I'm not sure who that is. But. And then finally, but hey, Biden got $8 million, right? I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, basically, the only way that Kamala wins this is if she sweeps Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and Nevada.
Starting point is 03:29:16 Yeah. Yeah, I hear you too. She's losing in all of them. But once again, this is when, when, when,
Starting point is 03:29:24 when, uh, Vance was talking about, um, you know, he went to bed. He had newborn. This is it later.
Starting point is 03:29:31 This is it. Donald Trump is going to win. I know, but this is what I'm saying is a hundred thousand, like one of them is a hundred over a hundred thousand votes. We're not talking a thousand. We're not talking a couple hundred. We're talking a hundred thousand votes.
Starting point is 03:29:45 Well, All you got to do is just stretch the Y axes on that graph. A hundred thousand poses. And I don't know. So here's the thing. Like it's, it's interesting because we can keep this going as long. Well,
Starting point is 03:29:58 no, no, well, listen, I got a full beer. I'm going to slowly sip on it. We got half an hour. As per tradition.
Starting point is 03:30:05 We're going to slowly slip on a beer. We got, we got probably half an hour, right? We got until top of the hour. So at, uh, at,
Starting point is 03:30:11 you know, I don't know, quarter to 11, 11 o'clock, somewhere there, Mountain standard time. We'll probably call this. But in the meantime, we're going to sit and we're going to watch.
Starting point is 03:30:19 We're going to have a sociable. And if you're joining in from wherever you're at, if you want to have a sociable, whatever that looks like to you, you know, last time, Nadine Ness, it was green tea. You don't have to have a bow. And if you're on Saskatchezing, you definitely don't have a bow. But, you know, like, I look at this and I'm just like...
Starting point is 03:30:37 We got a lot of love for Bow in the comments tonight, by the way. Yes, we did. Phil Primo, though. The last one, they stole 3 a.m. Okay, fair. How many boats that they truck in in the last one? Just barely enough. I understand, but was it 10,000?
Starting point is 03:30:55 Was it 1,000? Was it $1,000? Do you get my point, 2's? Okay. Yeah, I hear you. So 93% in Georgia. And they're up by, ooh, it's getting tight. It's 120,000.
Starting point is 03:31:12 How much is in? How much is in? 93% 93% is in 7%. Yeah. So if 7% is 120,000, you're looking at something like 160,000 for 10% 16 million.
Starting point is 03:31:30 Yeah, they basically, if every remaining vote goes to Kamala Harris, then they went. So like that's what I mean. Which conceivably could happen because no, no it could not. in a real election or in a real election i'm talking a real election yes all right so yeah in a real election no she's lost georgia and i would say that with 86% you want to have you want to have and a hundred and seventy thousand the trump's ahead by he's losing his he's losing his lean a little bit here only 170 000 ahead with 86% only 170 000 he's got it
Starting point is 03:32:15 She's got to catch like 85% of those votes. 170,000. Did everybody hear that number? I just look at it. To me, I'm like, I get it, folks. I get it. Last time. Last time it happened last time.
Starting point is 03:32:28 There was no election fraud last time. Zero. Here, this is going to make Tuesday laugh. Listener just text said, so funny story. I fell asleep during the SAS election coverage with your stream on my phone. I wake up with you and two's hysterically laughing. I listen to the rest of your coverage a few days later.
Starting point is 03:32:45 turns out Jamie's snoring is what woke me up. If you haven't gone and listened to the last 20 minutes of the SAS collection last 16. Like if you're tight for time, it's 16 minutes. If you're tight for time last 16. But if you want to be completely caught off guard, go last 20, right? Fast forward to five hours and 40 minutes. And all of a sudden, you were going to pee yourself laughing because I came back close to being myself. I laugh so freaking hard.
Starting point is 03:33:18 And that was great. Jim was texting me earlier too. He was wondering if we were going to have them on. And now if Jim is watching, I, you know, gladly bring him on to see what his thoughts are. Henry was saying that him and Jamie were drinking Bo earlier on. T-Short. Nice to see you guys being you again. You were both oddly professional earlier. Just saying because you passed election coverage, great show again, guys. I would say it's just that it's a little bit outside of our comfort zone.
Starting point is 03:33:45 I would love to recreate what we did with Saskatchewan or BC, but yeah, we're learning as we go here, you know, like. That's also true. Yeah, I don't know. I'll put it to this. I'll put it to you this way, T. Short, the guys I invited that would have added in some spice or some laughter, like a J.P. Sears, just couldn't make it. And if J.P. Sears was on here, I think that would have been, by the way. Well, it would have been, it would have been a different feel.
Starting point is 03:34:13 James Lindsay, I was just email him with him back and forth, and he just kind of laughed. He's like, ah, it's just too late. And I'm like, yeah, fair enough, right? Hey, Badlands Coffee Coe, by the way, got to go. It's been a slice, thanks, fellas. I don't even know, I've never heard of these guys before. But you should just, you know, throw us a DM. I'd love to buy some of your stuff.
Starting point is 03:34:35 There you go. Badlands Coffee Co. We'd love to buy some coffee. There was some people on the short list that I thought, would add a few things to it and it just didn't come to be. So you got, you know, when you got Peter McCullough and a retired lieutenant colonel
Starting point is 03:34:52 and Tom Luongo, they set the pace for how this is going. Mike Ferris, right? These people, Vance Crowe? Well, I mean, that's what... Vance Crow is one of the funniest people you'll ever listen to. But it's so understood.
Starting point is 03:35:06 And he just, he's one of those guys who's happy to just let other people take the reins. he's very very funny but maybe that's just me maybe we just be just you could be just you I don't know fans is great I'm not Vance knows what I think about him I just don't Vance doesn't make me laugh out again you know like last time we had the amazing Zoltan and ski gallers on shout to amazing Zoltan who's in Seattle right now
Starting point is 03:35:33 and um like I mean you know speaking of which you know what screw it I'm gonna you're gonna see of Zoltan wants to come on he'd already text me and you guys traded numbers and everything jesus i don't know where badlands coffee i filled about 180 bags of coffee while listening to your coverage thanks for keeping me company so 180 bags in three hours works out to a bag a minute i feel like i feel like those are rookie numbers badlands like you guys could definitely do better I'm a bit disappointed to hear this. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 03:36:19 Is this whole being or is it ground? What's going on? Man, 231.80. Well, I'm not... 230 to 182. But here's the thing is that, you know, you got... I got 230 to 210 on Google. I think it's healthy to stare at the two.
Starting point is 03:36:39 Yeah. Where they had... Phil Primo. Duce, I've got some native smokes. We can win you off the douche flute. Seriously, those things are like smoking fiberglass. I know all about native smokes because I used to, hypothetically, not like in an official, you know,
Starting point is 03:36:59 because this is being recorded since. Hypothetically, I'm well aware of the fact that you can just buy cartons of them from your native friends and smoke them for pennies on the dollar compared to the regular ones. but they literally tear up your lungs with all the just little bits of everything that gets in them. I know all about the Native smokes and I'm happy we had right now, twos. I wish we had. Native smokes?
Starting point is 03:37:28 I wish we had. We should get a sponsor that just gives us native smokes. You think, you know what I would love to try out for the next? You know what would be perfect right now is listener calling. Listener calling. Fuck, shut up. Listener calling. I don't want native smokes.
Starting point is 03:37:43 Native smokes. Native smokes. You think he could just say it one more time? Please, just one more time in my ear. Native smokes. Can we have a native smoke here? You know, it'll be great right now if I had some native smokes. I just sat here popping away.
Starting point is 03:37:56 That's what Tuse is thinking about. I think we've been on here too long. You know, in the last like 12 days, this is like... I have seen so fucking much of your ugly mug, man. Mm. We think six hours for B, no, six hours for Sask. Saskatch. What do we do? Five hours? Five hours and four hours for BC.
Starting point is 03:38:16 There's 11. Plus two days at the AGM plus this. 15 hours of me and two's staring at our ugly mugs are being in the same room and on and on. Like it's just, oh boy, you know, I'm waiting for the Zoltan's going to be pissed. He's going to, he's going to read my message in the morning and be like, I missed it. Oh, that's too bad. Oh, you guys are talking about native smokes? Oh, he comes with his goggles, Smoking away.
Starting point is 03:38:48 Ben Shapiro, Mr. Pesson, says he's calling it. You know, you look at it. Like I've been saying, like with Georgia and Pennsylvania, basically locked down, the only way Kamala wins is if she sweeps, Michigan, Milwaukee, Arizona, and Nevada.
Starting point is 03:39:13 And those are four tall orders. Although I feel like I was looking at it four years ago and thinking the exact same thing at this point. The only way she wins is if she sweeps those four states. And then she... Well, Biden did. Once again, I look at this comment and to me, this is telling. So Derek Holmanall chimes in, says,
Starting point is 03:39:35 Flip to NBC to see how long I could stomach it. It's a different feel of this election, making excuses for the dams like whip dogs already. no smugness or calling out Trump only reference to Democrats or Republicans total disassociation either of the candidates to me that's that
Starting point is 03:39:52 to me is telling you feel gut punched I mean right I mean it's just to me if they thought there was a glimmer of hope they'd be getting fed that yep and right now and they'd be like oh this is exciting you guys got to stay tuned we don't know how it's going to go
Starting point is 03:40:09 but they're looking at the same map we're looking at and they're saying it's almost the statistical impossibility. Now, that's the funny thing, though, is it was a statistical impossibility until three in the morning last time. Well, you're not wrong. Listen, I don't lose sight of that. I get it. And I go back to what did I say in the middle of it? Barack Obama coming out saying, you know, it's going to take all night long.
Starting point is 03:40:33 I want to pull that back up. Brock. Yeah, he basically just said, you know, it's going to take a long time to. It took several days to count. every ballot in 2020, it's very likely we won't know they'll come tonight either. That's it, you know, like when they talk about, man, when they talk about that guy's got 131 million followers. What a thing to say.
Starting point is 03:41:00 It's just, it's, it's weird that you've got all the, all the blue collar salt of the earth people can just hand count things, not quite instantaneously, but pretty damn fast. And then you've got all these other areas that just want to use voting machines that in theory are supposed to make things simpler. But I mean, here's the litmus test for it is do you get faster results from counting it by hand or by the machine? And if you get fast results by counting it by hand, first off, your machines fucking suck. And secondly, you really need to reconsider the concept. Do you think, do you think Donald Trump? Trump, Elon Musk.
Starting point is 03:41:45 Do you think they could get in and actually reduce government size by 10%? Like, do you think they'll actually get it? Those are rookie numbers, Sean? I know, no, whoa, but just hear me out. We're going to, you're going to jump off and you're going to say 80%. I'm going to say, you're smoking, you're smoking native smokes is what you're smoking. There's no way. I wish I was smoking native smokes right now.
Starting point is 03:42:04 Yeah, I know. Okay. So is there a way they walk in and actually reduce government size by 10%? Yeah, it's pretty easy. you just look at the stupid divisions. I know. I know. I'm asking. Have you ever going to do it?
Starting point is 03:42:17 I'm asking if they're going to do it. Gone, gone, gone. That's all you got to do. Are they going to do it? What are they going to do? Go on Twitter and complain about it. Musk is just going to laugh at them. So you think they're going to do it?
Starting point is 03:42:31 Think of the ramifications that would have if they go in and reduce government. It's huge. Right. Globally, it's what I mean? Well, think of Daniel Smith, when I had her on. And I made that. Why is Nevada grade out now? I know, what does it say?
Starting point is 03:42:44 It's grayed out. It was showing red before. Now, they're slowly stealing it in front of her eyes, folks. Nevada was red while it was pink. I show on my map of Google that Nevada's been grayed the entire time. So you might be going crazy. We're going to have to watch. Can we get Toronto to look back at the tapes?
Starting point is 03:43:07 Maybe it's because I was, maybe it's because I've been jumping back and forth between my projections and the historical result. but I oh my God I'm getting memory hold right now I thought we saw Nevada being pink in this like 10 minutes ago we've been we've been looking at this for like four hours
Starting point is 03:43:26 but I swear to God I saw Nevada pink before Brenda says Nevada on CNN says Trump there you go well that that settles it then that's it for ballots full of ballots but Brendan says I just checked. So it says,
Starting point is 03:43:50 Okay, I got to watch this later on and be like, was it pink when we were looking at it? And did it switch when we weren't looking? 2.30. So, you know, as we close in on the four hour mark, because we got 16 minutes till four hours. And I'm like, I don't know, me and twos could sit here all night. We're going to call it.
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Starting point is 03:44:58 is from Alberta, got, you know, somebody had watched the live election covers that we were done. He said, well,
Starting point is 03:45:04 you got a sponsor for this? And I said, no, we're just going to kind of wing it tonight because, you know, honestly, do we expect to have...
Starting point is 03:45:12 Who's going to have... It's fun. it's funny right now there's 4,700 people watching and I've been watching the numbers on different people through the night. And we're higher than a lot of people. It's actually kind of shocked me. But we've talked a lot about this Tuesdays. When we started doing this, we're like, we're trying to build towards the federal election here in Canada. Oh, and to be clear, that's the amount of listeners right now, not throughout the evening. Correct, correct. Like, it's been really interesting. to watch the numbers go up and up and up and up.
Starting point is 03:45:46 And we've been outperforming a lot of different people. And we're growing to where when Trudeau finally is going to get voted out, that we work towards that date. And the next one coming up is Nova Scotia on what day, November 26th. November 26th. Yeah, so we're going to do, you know, if you think this is fun, wait until we talk Nova Scotia and we, you know, like, I'm like, I don't know, what are we going to do?
Starting point is 03:46:12 Jeremy McKenzie on for four hours. That might be interesting. Why not? I mean, who else can we have? Like, actually, you know, this would be a great call out. Who would be good to have on for a Nova Scotia? From Nova Scotia.
Starting point is 03:46:23 All right? Yes. And while the comments come in, hopefully here, we're going to bring up Springfield, Illinois. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. Springfield, Illinois,
Starting point is 03:46:36 went 51.6% Trump. And almost 2%. RFK Jr. Well, you think about that. If RFK wasn't on there, right? Yeah. Where does that? Well, that's why they kept them.
Starting point is 03:46:51 That's why they kept them on the ballot. Like, what a sneaky little way to keep a guy on the ballot, right? Now, like, what a wild thing. That's wild to me. Oh, what? You think that they try and keep this on the up and up and make it as fair? No, that's how I know that they knew they were going to lose. is when they do silly things like that,
Starting point is 03:47:14 that to try and steal percentage points because they know it's going to be that close in every percentage points. Because a couple thousand people are going to vote RFK Jr. And they hope that that's going to make the difference. Carrie Ann Kane says, great job, guys, feeling confident and hitting the hay, praying, I wake up to 270.
Starting point is 03:47:31 Well, either way, you're going to wake up to 270. Can you scroll up on that map just so I can see the numbers? 230. 230 still. So nothing new has been called. but yeah i mean basically you know you got georgia which according to this map still hasn't been called yet despite the fact that they're well it hasn't moved since we looked at 20 minutes ago in georgia here on this map 93% same numbers still not being called pennsylvania is at 88%
Starting point is 03:48:03 and trump has 165 168000 votes that's a lot to come back from right and so like I was saying before of Georgia and Pennsylvania go red then Harris has to sweep one to vigilant Fox on Twitter said this is absolutely remarkable Donald Trump is currently winning the popular vote by five million votes meanwhile it appears Trump will win Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin polling market currently has Trump's odds of winning the election at a jaw dropping 94 percent he says come on well, not he, the Vigilant Fox tweets out.
Starting point is 03:48:45 Kamala is basically toast. Yeah. I don't know. And Trump has an 89% chance of winning Michigan, according to the New York Times. So you go back to what, what Vance said earlier on, when the New York Times is conceding those things,
Starting point is 03:49:00 begrudgingly for sure, you start to go, like, I just, you know, now the map 246, like it's just, it feels like it's coming in the next 20 minutes, doesn't it? Yeah. You know, the interesting thing is nobody's talked, like none of us have even mentioned this tonight. How red would this map have been if it was against Joe Biden?
Starting point is 03:49:24 Oh, it'd be, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you'd still have, oh, what's going on with the Georgia color? What does that, what does that mean? Projected winner, but not actually called. Okay. all right so georgia right now is slashy red the slashy but shannon's saying CNN just called it well i mean we've been looking at this for half an hour and saying that they've won it
Starting point is 03:49:51 yeah that's before we looked at it for two hours and said it's really promising yeah but this is this why you turn into election coverage like dad just call it already the numbers say yeah but we're supposed to be the people calling it do we not call enough stuff should we be calling more things I mean, let's, let's, oh, oh, you want, oh, Phil, Phil says he wants to see a pick of creepy Joe sniffing the map. Well, you know what? Here's Montana, and there's him sniffing Idaho. There's creepy Joe sniffing Idaho. You want it?
Starting point is 03:50:30 You want it? There you got it. Here, I'm just going to let you listen to the, you tell me if you can hear this, too. This is, Andy Lee, put this old on Twitter. Actually, if you want to pull it up, you, that might. might be the better way. Go to Andy Lee's Twitter and pull up here is the clip of CBC's guest Asia Mills
Starting point is 03:50:48 claiming Trump's propaganda campaign is taken directly out of Hitler's playbook. Deadly path, Jen. Right there. Okay, here we go. Let's listen to this. You're talking about the propaganda campaign and the playbook of Trump. This is not new. This is not
Starting point is 03:51:09 surprising. This is directly out of Hitler's playbook. This is out of an an autocrat playbook. This is a way to, I mean, the things that Trump has done masterfully, frankly, is to get the entire, you know, to get a big part of the population to believe that the game is rigged and to so distrust in public institutions and the free press. You're talking about. I'm going to go it on a limb and say that the.
Starting point is 03:51:43 people sewing distrust in the establishments are the people in the establishments. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Like, I just can't agree more. Like every time I hear that, I'm like, nope, Trump's doing his own thing. I'll give it that. But after that, it's like, who's sowing distrust? You morons in there.
Starting point is 03:52:06 Can you believe this guy is calling us out on our bullshit? What the hell? You know who just texted? Would you like ski goggles himself? Yeah. Let's bring him on. Let me see if I can... Vitamin D, best hair on Twitter, been in stitches all night guys.
Starting point is 03:52:31 CBC is so pathetic. And then Kevin, it was a great meeting you this weekend, by the way, Kevin. I voted for twos. I don't know what you voted for me in, but I appreciate that. Forgive me. I'm going to get Yeah, no, that's fine. We just got a lot of people in the comments saying
Starting point is 03:52:52 the various people calling Georgia, CNN, NBC. They were basically just waiting for the matchup to call Georgia before they were going to jump in on it. That's kind of how it goes. Phil wants to know maybe creepy Joe nibbling on the Florida panhandle. I don't think there's one of creepy Joe nibbling on the panhandle. I don't know. It doesn't quite look the same.
Starting point is 03:53:18 but maybe that's just me so apparently according to brenda blanchei trump is preparing his motorcade he should be preparing a speech of some kind I'm guessing like it looks like it's pretty fucking set so I mean we haven't talked about Pennsylvania but it hasn't moved Michigan hasn't really moved Wisconsin's more or less scroll a touch up to give me give me let me see the numbers there 246, 182. Come on now. So again, Arizona, neck and neck, exactly like Lieutenant Colonel Steve had to say. In Nevada, I swear to God, there were numbers there at some point tonight.
Starting point is 03:54:06 You know what's funny is Google doesn't want to give it. It's still at 2.30, 210. You know, when I watch this, this being CNN, predicting 240, you know, right there, 23210. It doesn't want to switch it. and that's interesting to me because you know you're starting to see other maps and other things like the new york times come out and say different things 246 182 like i mean you know like when are we getting that you know wouldn't it be cool i think it'd be really cool if we could just if i knew if i had a crystal and i could just see into the future yeah that would be really cool you need 15 minutes and then
Starting point is 03:54:41 don't trump's going to have going to have a speech i'd be like man let's play the speech that'd be sweet We haven't had... You know what? We need to get it in with Donald Trump. I don't know. Why haven't you had RFK Jr. on your show yet, Sean? I've been working hard on a lot of people. And, uh, yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 03:55:00 You just said hard on. You wouldn't pick that up. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, you'd pick that up. Uh, okay, what's going? Brendan Belongay says, Michigan 52-46. That might be Minnesota.
Starting point is 03:55:20 No, I know it isn't. Pennsylvania, 5.848, according to CNN. And she also chimes in 3-7 swing states so far. Yeah. And T-Short says many varying results by news networks, this is ridiculous. I think this is pretty standard, isn't it? To be totally fair, though, I don't know how their feed goes, but I know with the feeds that we've had from previous election coverages,
Starting point is 03:55:50 that sometimes, like, it seems as though the networks, they'll wait to update so that they can talk about it. They'll wait a minute or two, whereas ours, just as soon as it hits the RSS feed, it gets updated, but we're not really focused on that too terribly much, whereas them, it's like, ooh, it's an update. This is so exciting for both of the people watching. but if they're staggering things so that they can talk about it live as it unfolds it's kind of like when you're watching or when you're listening to hockey like you ever
Starting point is 03:56:26 listen to hockey on the radio it's always a few seconds behind what happens and then sometimes a few things get glossed over i feel like that's kind of what happens with the map and elections um Phil primo wants us to play a clip uh but i don't know how to get it yeah if that's a fucking rickroll You're banned. Let's see if I can... I don't think we can play it anyway. Well, I mean, he's got to email it to us or something to us, because I can't, I can't get it.
Starting point is 03:56:56 He says this is from 2020. So if you can type that, if you can type it out, twos can play it. I am definitely not going to type out the AZQ-Z-F-L-P-I-U-I-U-G-B-Y-S-E-Y-S-I-E-L-E-L-G-EU-J-EU-E-L-E. Jill Bears, McDeals. I'm getting tired out and I'm getting sleepy out. North, New Brunswick. Well, yeah, you guys are like three hours ahead of everything.
Starting point is 03:57:19 Yeah, you know, it's only like one in the morning there. Seriously, don't you have to work tomorrow? Well, not if you're Jill beers, I guess. What the hell is Zoltan doing? Send the guy to link. Okay, so he said he's coming on or what? Well, I asked him if he was still up. He said yes.
Starting point is 03:57:40 So then I sent him away. All right. I don't know. Did he respond to that? I don't even know. Three minutes left. We've got 89% here if Zoltan can come on in the next
Starting point is 03:57:51 three minutes. You guys take over. I got to finally break the seal. I'm sorry. Yeah, go break the seal. Phil, I can't copy it. That's the problem. I can't copy what's going on.
Starting point is 03:58:04 Yeah, it just shows up as like a video, like it's just part of the video. We can't even just select it in the screen. But yeah, I'll be right back. Phil, send it to me at, Sean Newman podcast at gmail.com. Sean S-H-A-U-N. Sean Newman podcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 03:58:23 I'll see if we can't find a way to play it if Tuesday gets back on here. Everybody's favorite. He's got a mascot. What are you doing, Zoltan? I don't know if it's going to show up here. Are you going to come in, maybe? Trying to get Zoltan on. And I can't hear you.
Starting point is 03:58:51 I can't see you. All right. 246, 182. Yeah, it's been an interesting, it's been an interesting night. We have, here, Jamie Sinclair, the snoring legend,
Starting point is 03:59:11 is maybe going to join us here at the end as well. Wouldn't that be something? You know, all of our election live streams to have a guy end it with snoring. Might be interesting. as we cross the four-hour mark or about to. Phil, here, I'll put it in the comments.
Starting point is 03:59:30 Here, give me a sec. There, it's coming at you, Phil. Okay, Zoltan, can you hear me? I don't know. You keep freezing up. I can see you're wearing a mask. I don't know what that's all about. Are you blending in?
Starting point is 03:59:55 Is that what we're doing here? Okay. Anyways, I can't get Zoltan in. 246, 182. We have live election for Nova Scotia. That's going to be our next one. We do end of November. So looking forward to that.
Starting point is 04:00:14 I don't know. I'd be curious if what people think, our province has voted Liberal Premier. What is this going on? You got Zoltan just sitting in the wings? I can't get him. Whoa, you go away, you break the seal, you come back on and you're throwing shade against me.
Starting point is 04:00:33 He keeps popping. in and I can't hear him. I'm talking to myself for the last little bit. Donna. That's got to suck. Yeah. Henry says thanks again, guys, for the great coverage. Yeah. Appreciate everybody coming in and staying on
Starting point is 04:00:49 and hanging out. Random lunche saying stay blue, new Shamshire. Yep. Shimmy, shrammy, swami. Samsonite. Oh, so close. Damn, damn. yeah um janey i was saying to the the audience twos james sinclair might pop in and i'm like wouldn't it be awesome
Starting point is 04:01:09 if every election live stream we ended with jami pass it out sleeping away snoring away zoltang can you hear us you sound like an 80 cyborg right now like oh hey there we oh and he's gone well i just i don't what are we doing here it's old dan's either figuring out he's going to give us the thumbs up and when he's got the thumbs up we'll bring him in he's giving us a thumbs up all right let's just send this is the last time i'm trying here you guys are you can you hear me we can hear you yeah hey man yeah i'm great thank you how are you fantastic you're sitting in seattle out of right now or what?
Starting point is 04:02:05 I'm in the Seattle Convention Center at the Democrat Convention for Washington State. It's... Belly of the Beast. I'm in the belly of the beast. The crowd is thinning. Actually, I have seen the obesity
Starting point is 04:02:25 reports from the states. That is probably not true. The obesity reports. You said the crowd's getting. Stop trying to crack joke, too. ask him some questions about being at the Democratic things. Okay, first off, why? How about that?
Starting point is 04:02:45 Why? What are you doing there? Oh, I met some people at the bar. Bye, Tony. Good luck. Yeah, and they snuck me in. So now I'm here. If this place was full, just like an hour ago or so,
Starting point is 04:03:02 and now it's empty. So they're like, we've lost. I mean, there's another sign. that just shows they're not going to be partying all night. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to go to the chop next. I know you guys have limited time,
Starting point is 04:03:17 but for your stream. But I thought I'd give you some underground coverage. Yeah. What were they talking about? Did you, I mean, I assume that, you know,
Starting point is 04:03:27 because you went there, that you talked to a few people there. What was the conversations like? Mostly just talk to people in the alley. They had their own personal problems. didn't give a shit about the election. All right. So,
Starting point is 04:03:47 so you're in Seattle, and you go to this thing, and then you just hang out in the alley behind it. Talking to... Yeah. It was $11 a beer in the convention. So once I got the wristband, I was like, fuck this.
Starting point is 04:04:01 There's a liquor store right across the street. Excuse me my language. So I, yeah. everybody wants to know why you're wearing a mask why you're wearing the face diaper zoltan i'll tell you exactly why and you know of all people everybody knows andy know told me to be very careful so that anytime andy know is messaging you and telling you to be careful you're kind of second guessing your best judgment but that was because i was in the chop i'm sure here is perfectly fine but i'm actually on my way back to the chop now
Starting point is 04:04:37 and what is the chop like the steakhouse sorry what's the co what's the chop oh the chop the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone are the Capitol Hill
Starting point is 04:04:53 occupation protests or the Chas this is better well known went through several different name iterations so you're you're literally going there you've been there oh yeah I've been there for like the last it is.
Starting point is 04:05:10 I'm sorry. This is taking a hard left turn. How many electoral votes does the Chaz get? Sorry, guys. We're cutting out a little bit. Reception's not very good here. What can you tell
Starting point is 04:05:23 us about the Chas? Oh, it's just like a mini version of Vancouver. It's just like a de facto open air drug den, basically. So I met a lot of interesting homeless folks there. They were nice enough.
Starting point is 04:05:40 They were also not interested in the election because they also had their own problems to deal with, I suppose. Are they still trying to grow food there? Pardon me? Are they still trying to grow food there? Food there? Food. Are they trying to grow food?
Starting point is 04:06:00 Oh, no. The garden is gone. Yeah, the community garden is gone. I actually talked to one of the ladies. She claims that she was one of the original planters of the garden. and she's pretty upset about it still which I find kind of amazing. Zoltan
Starting point is 04:06:20 will not be speaking tonight. Yeah. Kamala will not be speaking tonight. Correct. Zoltam, we're going to kick you loose. Thanks for, thanks for hopping in and giving us a live look at you.
Starting point is 04:06:31 This was awesome. I just, my pleasure. I feel like I just, you should be live streaming your entire life. And I would tune in all of it. This is literally what everybody has been waiting for. They're like, why is the live election not
Starting point is 04:06:44 been doing some crazy stuff? You're welcome, folks. Zoltan, hooking us up from downtown Seattle, and giving us a live thought process or a live, I don't even know, into the Chaz. And I'm like, I... But fucking beauty. Well done, Zolten.
Starting point is 04:07:01 Appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much. Stay safe. Cheers from the land of milk and honey. Every time I talk to that guy, which has only been twice, to be fair. I'm like, he's like my new favorite person. All right. I'm going to forward this to.
Starting point is 04:07:21 Two, two, two, two. Okay. Two's, you got an email coming towards you. Okay? It's from Phil Primo. This was the link he tried sending to you. I have no idea what it is. All right.
Starting point is 04:07:32 Bill, we're putting it on your hands here because I'm like, okay, we're seven minutes over the four hours. We're just going to keep going forward, not a Rickroll. Yeah, that's exactly what I would say if this was a fucking Rickroll, by the way. I'm sitting here I'm going I got Brad Wall tomorrow morning
Starting point is 04:07:51 I would like to be not up till 4 in the morning and I'm going So he bailed on Going on the show with me But he's going on with just you Correct You saw you were going to be there
Starting point is 04:08:02 And was like screw that I don't blame him What a good judge of character That man is Yeah You're not wrong You're not wrong Okay
Starting point is 04:08:14 Whatever, whatever Phil sent us. So, this is going to set it. We're either shutting it down immediately, or this is going to spur us on for another 15 minutes. When I went to sleep, Trump had the lead. How the hell'd we go from election day to election week? The poster's starting wrong again. They must have been confused.
Starting point is 04:08:41 But I tell you, I've got to shit myself when I turn a lot. on the morning news because they found pallets full the ballots at 3 a. All the way from Georgia a station
Starting point is 04:08:53 and they took the caps off of their sharpies and they filled them fuckers and all those pallets full of ballots all want to buy them
Starting point is 04:09:03 this guy can fucking away well isn't that sweet they got just what he means they found just enough for she gets sleepy to the only
Starting point is 04:09:14 He said, come on, man, I'll hook you be there's morning. Donald Trump said, fuck that shit, I'll see your last in court. Bring the palace on the valley, it's grounded, all the way from Georgia the nation. They called Arizona early, and they only way you're winning because the parents were the mountainous on for nobody. probably said to tell the truth i think he forgot and he was running for grass a thing probably true but it doesn't matter because they found palaces from the valleys
Starting point is 04:10:02 all the way from america to this consin they want us to bend over so they keep us a name There's pallets full of ballots. That's the only way they'll give. There's calvets full of ballots all for your money. There you go. That was deadly. Phil Primo, thanks for the email. And there you go, you folks.
Starting point is 04:10:33 You can find a way to get things on the show. All right, we're 246, 182. What do you want to do here, Tews? Well, Phil says the next one is a Rick Roll. so watch for that coming through our emails. I'm suspicious of it. But yeah, basically, so Georgia's conditionally called. Pennsylvania is at 92% with 120,000 votes or 115 now.
Starting point is 04:10:58 It literally just updated while I was looking at it. Pretty close, but not actually. Michigan is 62%. So if he takes Pennsylvania and Georgia, which it looks like he's going to do Virginia which is not even fucking close and has been called all right so now
Starting point is 04:11:21 the only route to victory for Kamala who went to bed early which is actually classic considering the fact that that's what Joe Biden did as well so she's got to find 200,000 votes in Michigan at 62%
Starting point is 04:11:39 technically possible maybe or 115,000 in Wisconsin and, pardon me, and she's got to take all these, 115,000 in Wisconsin at 86%. Arizona, still a coin toss. It's within 12,000 votes at 52%. And Nevada is 22,000 at 68%. So Nevada and Arizona, Could go either way, but significant ground overcome in Michigan and Wisconsin.
Starting point is 04:12:20 And I'm saying this right now. We're looking at Nevada numbers, and they're at 68% now. They were blank 20 minutes ago. And now they're at 68%. I swear to God, we saw them earlier on in the night. I don't know what happened there, but I'm weirded out. They put their election loss under their pillows, and the ballot ferry comes at 3 a.m.
Starting point is 04:12:46 How the hell is Hawaii called and Alaska is not? Don't know. So, yeah, basically, yeah, Arizona, Nevada could go either way at this point. Wisconsin and Michigan, pretty determined, I guess, but not 100%. I mean, Michigan had the thing with the water pipes breaking in the middle. middle of the night and then Michigan and Wisconsin it had a whole bunch of ballots show up after everybody went to bed. So I think we should call it here,
Starting point is 04:13:23 say Trump is the new president and wake up tomorrow to broken pipes in Michigan and pallets full of ballots. You hear that, folks. The mashup has a finally called it. Trump's winning. Right? Yeah. At this point, we're going,
Starting point is 04:13:39 there's no logical way. There's no logical way. right there's no mathematically feasible way there is still a way Harris announced that she will speak Wednesday at Howard University in Richmond and yeah so that Brenda also says yes it was pink so there's somebody um saying you were not wrong so yeah you don't you don't wait to do a victory speech two days later that's that's a concession speech and Sour grapes and probably something about Trump and abortion.
Starting point is 04:14:20 Boys and girls, people of all ages. Thanks for hopping on. Thanks very much, guys. You know, for throwing things together kind of last minute, I can admit, it was a lot of fun. And appreciate all the people who came on and made it what it was, certainly to have Tom Longo start us off, Scott Marsland and then roll through all the guys we had to have.
Starting point is 04:14:49 I was really impressed with Tom tonight. Yeah. I'm not saying that nightly. Martin Armstrong and Lance Crow on the same chat. Wild world to be in. Appreciate everybody coming on. Appreciate all you find folks for tuning in to the mashups live U.S. election coverage. And we look forward to hopefully you guys having some fun with us.
Starting point is 04:15:11 And, you know, I don't know, it's like three weeks. And Nova Scotia's next, probably, unless a federal one is, well, federal is going to be at least 60 days. So Nova Scotia is next. But basically, if you're enjoying this coverage, tune into all of any time there is an election in Canada, even if it's some bullshit place that nobody gives a shit about like the Yukon or fucking Quebec, we'll be there covering it. Yeah, our plan is to make sure we cover everything Canadian. and then for the U.S. I mean, it's the Super Bowl. We should do like some weird one like, I don't know, Panama or Romania or something like that.
Starting point is 04:15:53 We should just do some live coverage of something. We'll see. We'll see. That's a polite way of saying. We've literally just come through three live election coverages in the last like. Week and a half. Yeah. Like, I mean, I didn't realize this was going to be what it was, you know, when we first started it.
Starting point is 04:16:11 But it's been a lot of fun. So thanks. everybody for tuning in. That's going to do it for us here on the mashup. We're calling it. Donald Trump, if tomorrow we wake up, we're going to play that song if things have changed. Well, hey, you know what? I'm really looking forward to waking up to something like this again, except it's going to have to be a much bigger bump. That's right. Oh, and Tone says, where should I go to watch it? Wherever you're watching it tonight is where you can watch the next one. Yeah, we'll be on X, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook.
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