Shaun Newman Podcast - #749 - Michael Yon

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Michael Yon is an American writer, photographer, and former Green Beret who has gained recognition primarily for his work as an independent war correspondent. We discuss the Darien Gap, weaponized mig...ration and unpredictable wars. Cornerstone Forum ‘25 https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Clothing Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://snp-8.creator-spring.com/listing/the-mashup-collection⁠⁠ Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast E-transfer here: shaunnewmanpodcast@gmail.com Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.com Text Grahame: (587) 441-9100

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Starting point is 00:02:53 All right, let's get on to that tale of the tape. He's a former Green Beret, journalist, and author. I'm talking about Michael Yan. So buckle up, here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Michael Yan. So, sir, thank you for hopping on. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And I'm in Buenos Aires, of all places, in Argentina. Been down here, meeting with all kinds of interesting people, came in from Japan where I was doing the same thing. And as you can imagine, the world. you can imagine the wars that we're in are global. It's not, you know, it's not just a Texas war or a Florida war or New York. It's global. And to understand the situations that are unfolding, you have to, you know, sometimes I hone in with a microscope and spend months at a time at places like the Dary and Gap or across the entire southern U.S. border. I've done that, much of that on the Mexican side,
Starting point is 00:04:04 all on the American side. And, but other. times you have to zoom out, get an orbital view, and see what is actually happening on the big board here to understand what's likely to happen next and the strengths and weaknesses of the people that we face. So that's why I'm in Buenos Aires, because this, believe it or not, is another important area. Well, I was wondering, Michael, you're the first time, like, I know people know who you are. But I would love it if you would give us, you know, because like you have a, in my mind, a pretty crazy background that leads you to where you're at today. You don't need to spend a half an hour on it, but I would love for you just kind of explain a little bit of who you are
Starting point is 00:04:50 to the audience up here in Canada. Actually, it has been a, by the way, we were in Canada earlier this year too, all the way up in Yellowknife and Toronto, of course, and over in Vancouver, looking at these same situations. Yeah, actually, Yellowknife was the first city outside of, if you want to call Yelinaifa city, it's up near the Arctic Circle, right? 400 kilometers. Here in Canada, we call it a city. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. That was the first actually city outside of the United States I ever went to in my life, right? I mean, I had just finished a language school in the military in California, and I drove up with a Canadian friend. And he was also, we were in the U.S. Special Forces together. But he was, he had just gone through the language school with me. And we drove up to Canada because he's Canadian. And he's like, hey, I'll show you Canada.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm going to go visit my family and stuff. So we went up there and we were getting gas up in Calgary. So actually, that would have been the first city I saw. But we didn't see much of it because we were just with this family. We were getting gas to go back to the United States. I said, hey, what's this place, Yellowknife? And, you know, that was back when you had the big Atlas and stuff, which I still have a bunch of those.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I still buy them. And I said, what's this yellow knife place? He goes, oh, man, that's really up there. I was like, let's go. So we went. And it was, you know, from Calgary to Yellowknife is, I don't know, it was 24, 36 hours. I don't know. It was a long drive.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And it was mostly gravel road, you know. And so we went up to Yellowknife and it was unbelievable. You know, so that was when I was 20, I guess. And so that was the first, you know, it was. you know, real place I'd seen outside of the United States. And now I just went back there again. And Yellowknife is just filled with actually, believe it or not, like Pakistanis, Afghans, Nigerians. It's filled with.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And a lot of the natives, unfortunately, are alcoholics. This is all part of a larger war plan, but I'll talk about that later. My background is I grew up in Florida. And I was born and raised in Florida. Actually, really to often Americans wonder where people, are from before that. My family from the mother's side came to America in 1609. They got shipwrecked on Bermuda. There's a book about this called The Sea Venture. And that shipwreck is why Bermuda today is the oldest British colony, actually. And so they were shipwrecked there for about 10 months.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Then they made it to Jamestown in 1610. And they were the Eastons. And since that time, my family, you know, they, I mean, I have no cultural memories outside. of the United States. So I was born, I was about the roughly fourth generation. I say roughly because it depends on which side of the family. A Floridian in my family line. I grew up in Winter Haven, Florida, born and raised in Winter Haven, same as my mother and that sort of thing. And then I went off to the Army when I was 18, became one of the youngest Green Berets when I was 19. We had a very interesting way to grow up. I grew up hunting gators and doing a lot of sports and I loved physics and those sorts of things. I always love sciences. But anyway, I ended up in special forces. And that's how I ended up
Starting point is 00:08:10 in that language school because I graduated from the special forces course when I was 19 at Fort Bragg, ended up accidentally killing somebody in a fist fight. Somebody attacked me. He had attacked other people that day and he happened to attack me. I weighed about a buck 45 or something, buck 50. He if I was wet. But I was very strong and very fast. And we got into a fight. And he, well, he had just been attacking other people. So it wasn't like, you know, he, but the way it played out in the newspapers, and this is important. The way it played out in the newspapers was New Green Beret goes and kills somebody with his hands. That's not what happened. What happened was this guy had been fighting other people, destroyed the kitchen where he were. He had a tattoo that said death before
Starting point is 00:08:52 dishonor. This is an Ocean City, Maryland. Then he attacked me. So, and I was just a, I looked like I was about 14 years old. I was actually 19. So he attacked me. We ended up in a fist fight. He died on the spot. Long story short, I ended up being cleared of all the charges and special forces kept me. So then they allowed me to go to that language school.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And then I ended up in yellow knife. And then back in, I got on my first A team when I was 20 years old, 2021. Matthew, you mind me asking you go from Greenbrae. What is language school? It's, we have what's called DLI Defense Language Institute. And, and so there's, they, I don't know how many languages they teach now. It must have been, I don't know, 50 or 60 back then. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It was languages like Swahili and different sorts of Arabic, Mandarin, of course, Cantonese, a long list, Spanish, German. I went for German. And so I, you know, Polish, Czech. They had just a long list, Romanian. So I went for Spanish I went I put in for Spanish I ended up in German and so Then so so by the time I got to yell and I if I spoke a little bit of German because I just got out of the school So anyway and sorry the thought being sort of interrupt the thought being
Starting point is 00:10:10 If you learned a second language if you're deployed in different places now you have a little bit of a tool set to understand The the the common tongue of that area Right I mean in special forces one of your major jobs is to go off in small teams to work with local people, right? So, for instance, I was a weapons specialist and I learned, I don't know, in the initial course, maybe 80 weapons, small arms. And so it was, you know, and most of the weapons that you're learning are old, actually. Most of them are like, you know, weapons from the 40s and 50s and, you know, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:48 because the weapons of the guerrillas around the world tend to be things like AK-47s or or just much older weapons because that's just what they have. I'm sorry. And so interestingly, the only two places I've ever had allergies are here in Buenos Aires and Poland. So that's why I might sneeze or something during this time. There's these trees out here. I call them sneeze trees. But only here in Poland, and this is my 99th country, by the way,
Starting point is 00:11:18 So that's quite interesting that only two places. Anyway, so I went to the weapons school and later on to engineer, which is explosives and that sort of thing. And so my jobs in special forces were weapons and explosives, right? And so, but I had also gone to language school for German. Everybody on my team spoke some language, right? Whether it was Swedish or Czech or something. Most of them on my two A teams spoke. I was on two different A teams.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Special Forces has three main types of teams, A team, B team and C team. A teams are the teams that everybody wants to be on. Those are the teams that actually do the serious missions and that sort of thing. The B teams and the C teams support the A teams, right? So in any case, I was on two different A teams. And our missions, I can say it at the time. Earlier, it would have been obviously top secret, but our missions were to parachute into Poland.
Starting point is 00:12:15 and to fight Soviets and near the Belar's border, actually in contested area today, as it soon will be. And so in any case, I trained to do that mission for three years, obviously top secret at the time. But that was why I learned to speak German when what I really needed to speak was Polish. I also went to a language school for Polish, but it was much shorter. And then after the army, I lived in Poland for a couple of years, unrelated. And so I was in the Army for five years. I love Special Forces. I didn't really like the Army.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I don't like the Army. I still don't like the Army. But I love Special Forces. It's like a lot of SEALs, a lot of Delta Force guys. They love their unit, but they really don't like the Navy or the Army. That's kind of the nature of the beast. You'll find a lot of those sorts are like that. I'm sure you know.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And so I got out and I went to school because I at that point said, well, I'm going to go and become a physicist now. And I ended up being offered a job with Michael Jackson, weirdly, just came out of the blue, did security for him for a while, used to do my calculus homework over at Neverland over in California. That was something else. But at some point, I discovered, I'm not meant for this. I've heard the call of the wild. I've tasted the call of the wild. And I went back overseas. And I've pretty much spent most of my life, most, maybe two thirds of my life have been overseas out of the United States.
Starting point is 00:13:45 States, although I've seen the United States extensively. I've been across Chris Cross. You know, I lived in Massachusetts and North Carolina and Georgia and Florida, of course, Ohio, California. I've been all over the United States, right? I've seen it like an ant trails everywhere. So I'm quite familiar with my own country. And I'm quite familiar with Europe and Asia. And I spent about 19 years in Asia and about 25 countries in Asia. So I've, I've, I've seen the world quite a bit, right? And I spent years in wars, right? So I would learn as two of my friends were killed in the Iraq war. One was one of my Green Beret teammates. His name was Richard Ferguson. We called him Fergie. He was killed near Samara. His Humvee apparently rolled over. They were doing some kind of combat operation. And then another friend that I went to school with in Winter Haven, Florida. His name was Scott Helveston. Scott was the youngest Navy SEAL, actually. We used to work out together. And we played on the same football team at Winter Haven High School. And Scott, he was a very serious young man at the time because we were teenagers.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But he went off to seal buds and all that. And he actually made it at 17. Now, when I say that, I've said it in the past and people say, nonsense, that's bullshit. It's absolutely true. And it would take all of like, you know, this is the age of the internet. It would take all of like three minutes to find that it was actually true. He actually made he was an incredible stud, but he hated the Navy too. Anyway, I think Scott stayed in for 11 years, right? And then Scott in something like that. And then Scott ended up
Starting point is 00:15:25 and ended up working for Blackwater. And you may remember those contractors who were killed in Fallujah and hanged off the bridge. Scott was one of them. And so he was working for Blackwater. And so I went to, so Scott was killed one day, I think March 30th, 2004 and Fergie was March 31st or maybe anyway one was one day and one was the next and I went to their funerals I went to fergis funeral my green beret teammate in um Colorado and I went and there was a bunch of green berets and CIA guys there and all that stuff the normal stuff and they're all like what are you why aren't you you're a writer why aren't you off in the war and I'm like I'm not going to the war and um you know because why would I go to the war it's a war and I'm doing all kinds of other interesting things are
Starting point is 00:16:13 incredibly interesting as well and important. And, well, not as important as the war, but any case, I didn't realize what was happening in the war yet, but I started listening more closely to those SF guys, special forces guys that were telling me to get to the war. Some of them went back to the war. And then when I went to Scots funeral in Florida, likewise, there were a bunch of Navy SEALs. I was with his mother and that sort of stuff. And the SEALs were like, why don't you go to the war? And again, I'm telling the seals, just like I just told the Green Brays, I'm not going to the war. But then as the war unfolded in 2004, another one of my high school friends who also knew Scott, his name was Rodney Morris.
Starting point is 00:16:55 He happened to be a lieutenant colonel in the first infantry division. And he was into Crit in Iraq. And Rodney kept messaging me. And this was when I discovered what Skype was. Rodney Skyped me from Iraq. And that was like, wow, the Skype thing's pretty cool. because I've been spending a lot of time in Asia and places like India. They didn't have much of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And Scott, I mean, sorry, Rodney was like, you know, he kept messaging me all the time. You need to come over to Iraq. I'm like, why would I come to Iraq? He just told me you got an RPG ambush last week, right, and all this stuff. And, and, but as the, as the, as 2004, by the way, when Scott was killed and hanged off the bridge, that's when American and British and Iraqi and other forces did a huge. attack on Fallujah in April of 2004. That's when I was at Scott's funeral. They're doing this massive attack. So there were journalists from around the world at Scott's funeral because it was all
Starting point is 00:17:51 over the news. I mean, even Japan, stuff like that. I mean, they were, they came from everywhere. It was, it was unbelievable. And so in April of 2004, while Scott was being laid to rest and Fergie was being laid to rest, we were attacking Fallujah while I was in Colorado and Florida. And so that's when the war really picked up was when that second attack on Fallujah. A lot of people don't realize this. A lot of people were like, go after them, get them in Fallujah. But the war then exploded, right? He did exactly the through gas on it.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And so our casualties started to skyrocket. So then as we go through the year, my friend in Iraq, Rodney Morris, kept calling up when he coming to the war. I'm like, Rodney, I love you, brother. Approximately never. I'm not coming to the war, right? Just thank you. Thank you for the invitation.
Starting point is 00:18:41 But then we start going into Operation Arrowhead Ripper, which is not Airhead Ripper, Phantom Fury. Arrowhead Ripper was an operation I was on years later because I would end up in the war after I told him never. So I ended up, and as we get near the end of 2004 and about October, the United States launched with the Brits and others, Operation Phantom Fury. This was the second big attack on Fallujah. And at that point, I was like, wow, this war is out of control. These are not dead enders.
Starting point is 00:19:14 This is a clear insurgency. Everybody's getting involved. There's people coming in from all over the world to join battle. And so I said, okay, I'll come. So I went over to the war, and I arrived in December 2004. And the war that I said I was not going to go to because I know how I am. If there's something going on, I will get in the middle of it. So it's like a safety mechanism.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I'm not going, right? And so because I know once I get close dukes up, I'm going to jump in, right? And so that's exactly what happened. So I showed up in December of 2004. There was a lot of firefights going on. I was in Baghdad. There was tracers flying in the night, bombings, literally like jets dropping bombs, flashes of light, the big boom, you know, booms, you know, just lots of firefights. I was like, wow, this is even worse than CNN makes it out. And so I, I, I said, well, what's the unit in the most combat? And next thing you know, well, months later, by April or May, Bruce Willis was reaching out wanting to play me in a movie
Starting point is 00:20:17 because I was just going combat, combat, combat. I was actually with Eric Carilla, who's the current CENTCOM commander. I was actually photographing him when he got shot right in front of me several times. He got shot three times. It was right in front of me. And that was just normal. I mean, I was doing this all the time. Occasionally, I'd catch it on photos or videos and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Eric kept fighting. He was an incredible commander. Unfortunately, he's gone woke, but he was absolutely an incredible combat leader, very smart, very courageous, and the Sinkom leader now and very woke. It's unbelievable. Anyway, so I then left Iraq for a while, went over to Afghanistan, and I started going back and forth Iraq and Afghanistan. And so I would just go to the units in the most combat.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And so I did two years in Iraq, two in Afghanistan. So four years total between 2004 and 2011 or 12. I think I left Afghanistan when I realized. I was like, this war is lost. I'm not going to, I'm getting in so many firefights, so many bombing, so many incoming rockets and stuff. For what? We're just going to lose the war. I'm out, right?
Starting point is 00:21:25 So I punched out and I went and covered, well, I covered two coups in Iraq. One was in 2010. So while the war was still on, and then I went back to Afghanistan. But anyway, I started covering other conflicts, right? I was in two of the coups in Thailand, and I mean like this close. I wasn't like watching them from Chiang Mai. I was right there where they were happening. And so, you know, I was covering a lot of other conflicts and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:21:53 But as time went on my track record for predicting these things just kept getting better and better and better. And now I've reached the point where I strongly trust my own judgment much more than all these analysts because I see what I predict, for instance, with the Ukraine war, which is unfolding right now, just rewind the tapes to all the things that I was saying before the first shots were fired. And look what's happening in the last eight hours. And you'll see amazing accuracy. Or likewise, a lot of these old. Sorry, when you talk Ukraine, Russia right now, you know, speaking to missiles hitting into Russia, Russia, and please fill in the blanks that I'm going to, for surely, just I'm doing the, I don't know, the 10,000 foot view. Like, obviously, the big news here in the last couple days, I think, has been the fact that Biden okaying the use of rockets into Russia, which has happened. and then Putin basically outlining how a few missiles and he can take out a good chunk of the world.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I don't know, Michael, you fill in the blanks there. Let me see if I've had any updates from you. And I have right here. Okay. Here's an intel guy saying, hooty struck Turkish bulk carrier, the bulk carrier, an aldeulus, whatever it's called. And an undula. Anyway, Turkey was reportedly carrying cargo destined for Israel. Spain is closing embassy in Kiev.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So we just got a message a couple hours ago. Dozens of embassies in Kiev are telling their people to prepare for a major attack. Embassies closing, many embassies closing in Kiev, and actually many of the staff have been told to go to subway shelters for shelter. So listen, if you want to be accurate on predicting wars, there's just a couple of things you have to keep in mind, and you'll be so accurate, you'll look like Nostradamus. Just say when the next war comes, if there is the next war after this one,
Starting point is 00:23:53 if there is, it might be like Einstein said with sticks and stones. But when there is a war, just predict these two things. You'll be amazingly accurate. Say, this war is going to grow. And then say, it's going to grow out of control, unpredictably, right? And it's going to grow beyond what it's just going to grow. And you'll always be right. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:12 People are like, you're so right on these wars. Wars, I'm like, look at what I keep predicting the same things over and over and over. The war will grow. It will grow unpredictably because that's what wars do, right? It's like a fire in a dry forest with the erratic winds. Which way will it go? I don't know, but I can tell you one thing. It's going to grow and it's going to grow unpredictably, right? And that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Now we've got it's growing unpredictably. These wars almost always last longer than they are expected. I'm not talking little battles with Grenada or the invasion of Panama or something like that. Those are just battles. I'm talking about actual serious wars. They grow, they grow unpredictably, they last longer than expected, and nobody controls them. Nobody is in control of this war. Russia is not in control.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We're not in control. Nobody is in control. The war now is a living, breathing being. It is in control of itself, right? And so it has a life of its own. And that's the danger here, right? So we can have some, somebody can launch a missile right now. It might be in the air right now or, you know, 100 missiles.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And Russia says that's it. Hydrogen bombs out, right? And that's it. You know, next thing you know, Ukraine and Europe and the United States and Israel all get hit with hydrogen bombs, right? UK gets hit with the tsunami that Russia has been promising. And they can make those things. the United States practiced making tsunamis generations ago with hydrogen bombs. You can make tsunamis with hydrogen bombs, right?
Starting point is 00:25:46 And the Russians say they can make a tsunami that will wipe out all of the British islands, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, gone, right? And I think they could probably do it. And they keep promising that they will if these things keep going. So if you only predict those things, you'll be amazingly accurate. But there's other things that are off the beaten path that I keep getting right with Masako Ghanaha, who I'm with somewhere and she's running off to a meeting now in Buenos Aires. For instance, we predicted the Nord Stream attack. We went to Germany twice in advance.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We went to BASF, BASF. That's a German chemical company in Germany because we thought if you pay attention to what the enemy is saying, this amalgam of oligarchs is the enemy. The enemy is saying they want to deindustrialize, and I'm not talking about the Russians. I'm talking about world economic forum and those sorts, right? They want to deindustrialize Europe, right? They want to reduce the global population, right?
Starting point is 00:26:56 So, and I believe them, because I've been watching them very closely, and that is exactly what they're doing. They're removing water infrastructure around Europe, like dams and United States, and dikes and that sort of thing, levies, they are reducing water infrastructure in ways that people don't even realize it and they're not going to realize it until they have some really bad weather, right?
Starting point is 00:27:17 And so if I were going to deindustrialize Europe, what would I do? Now, when you go through special forces sabotage training, which I did, and you will learn how to do things like make a Carver Matrix. A Carver Matrix is a, planning tool for target selections, right? So you've got all these potential targets. You've got thousands and thousands of potential targets. You know, should you hit that little power line over
Starting point is 00:27:45 there? No, it's a waste of time. Should you get that power station? Maybe. Or should you hit that power station over there? Maybe that one's better. So you do you have this thing called the Carver matrix, right? And the Carver matrix is a criticality, accessibility, recuperability, effect. And anyway, Bottom lines, just look up Carver Matrix online and you'll see what I'm talking about. But it's an old planning tool that was designed by and for CIA Special Forces after World War II for teams who would do things like parachute into Poland and go on sabotage campaigns, right? And so when I'm looking at Europe using that old training I had, and I imagine to myself, let's say what capabilities I have. I'm a globalist with billionaire amalgamated billionaires, many billionaires who have access to everything, right, because they actually own the ports and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So what would I do if I were going to deindustrialize Europe and put us into famines? What would I do in my Carver Matrix? I made a Carver Matrix, and I started listing targets. And number one and number two were Nord Stream and Groening in Gasfield in Netherlands. Nord Stream, of course, is that North Stream 1 and two pipelines from Russia to Germany, and they feed BASF and other things. BASF is the, you need that natural gas to make nitrogenous fertilizers, by the way. You need the hydrogen. The hydrogen on the natural gas is you combine that with the nitrogen in the air and make ammonia, like ammonium, sulfate, ammonia, ammonium nitrate, urea, and those sorts of things.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And that's called the Haberbosch process. It was designed by two German chemists, Ritz Haber, and Carl Bosch, and that they started making those nitrogens fertilizers at BASF in 1914, right? The same year the Panama Canal opened, 1914, right? So basically about 100 years ago. And so they started there at BASF, the plant that Masako and I went to twice in advance. Warning, publishing, saying on interviews, I think they're going to do something to Nord Stream. And the last time we went to BASF, that's the birthplace of nitrogous fertilizer production was September I think 12th, 2022, 14 days before somebody blew up Nord Stream 14 days. We were there 14 days in advance. Again, that was our second trip. Warning, I think somebody's going to take out Nord Stream. And then, you know, I had an extra iPad that I just watched. There was a website where you could
Starting point is 00:30:23 watch how many cubic meters per second were flying through those pipe-per-dictsouths. lines, right? They're going through at a high rate of speed. And suddenly all those readings went to zero cubic meters per second. And then I said, huh, let's restart this thing, restarted it, started making some calls. Look on the TV. There's bubbles coming from the North coming from the sea, right? From the Baltic. There's actually bubbles coming. I was like, well, something just happened in Nord Stream. Everything's at zero and there's bubbles coming up. And everybody's reporting that the flows have stopped right so they did it that's a huge hit now groaning i went over to groaning in uh gas field in netherlands groaning it is the biggest gas field in europe right
Starting point is 00:31:12 and i was on the jordan peterson show with eva vlaringerbrook and saying i think they're going to stop groaning it and people like that's crazy they're never going to stop it there's people demanding that it be closed, but they're never going to stop it because it's the biggest gas field in Europe. And I'm like, McFly, exactly. Carver Matrix, number one, Nord Stream, I predicted it many times, bam, it's gone. Number two would be Nord Stream gone. Number two, Groeningen. Groningen is now closed. It is closed. And it is now closed. Not only did they close it, they didn't just turn off the spickets. They filled them full of concrete. They filled the infrastructure up. They destroyed it. It's destroyed. They're not going to restart it. You're not going to just have a new
Starting point is 00:32:02 government in Netherlands and they're just going to open it right back up again. It's done, right? This is unbelievable. So you're watching the deindustrial. It is believable. I say unbelievable. And so far as I'm not surprised, I predicted it in writing many times and on interviews like this. because clearly they're deindustrializing Europe, clearly they're pushing us into this war in Ukraine. It's clear that some on our side want to make a nuclear war. Why would they want to make a nuclear war? They have nice bunkers apparently and probably down here south of the equator
Starting point is 00:32:40 where I'm at now. The bottom line is many things like this, not just those two absolutely major and what people thought were unlikely of the, events, one and two, they happened, right? How did I get those right? Because I study seven days a week. Or you can look up in an old article called Michael Yon's predictions deemed prophetic.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And that dealt with something in the Afghan war. And I made these four or five predictions that were way off of line that none of them should have happened and all of them happened in sequence, as I said, right? How did I get those right? How do I keep doing this? Because I study seven days a week and I don't allow myself into group think. If the group all thinks one thing, maybe they're right. Maybe they're wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I don't know. But I'm going to make my own mind, right? So Michael, where we sit today then, however many days from Donald Trump being inaugurated, we say. And this is what, hey, this is what causes many of my readers to abandon me. my readership used to be this big. Now it's like this big. Because I keep saying things that I think to be true. Like don't take the jab, right?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Readership shrank. It's like, don't take it. Don't take the jab. It's a weapon. It's not a vaccine. Stop calling it a vaccine. And when I would say things like this, people would say things like, or, you know, don't, we shouldn't be going to war with Iran, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and they would say, oh, you're an anti-Semite. Okay, listen, Polish guy. Don't tell me about being anti-Semite. And secondly, who are the people that told all the Jews in Israel to take the jab? Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, Netanyahu. They're all telling Jews all over the world to take the jab. And I'm telling millions, don't take the jab. And they call me the anti-Jew.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm the one that said, don't take it, brother. You had, I don't, I can't remember where I grabbed this from, but whether it was an interview or something or read of yours, I can't remember. Anyways, you would wrote, I think, if a writer wants to make money, money, he should avoid truth and tell people what they want to hear. Yet to win the war, tell the truth. Yeah. I wrote that down. That's really, well, I think that's what you're talking about. Yeah. And you know what? In 2000, when did I write that? Maybe 2006 or seven or something? Maybe seven-ish. Because what happened is I went over to Iraq or I was in Iraq. Then I left, you know, Eric got shot and all that. And I went over to Afghanistan. because at that point, I had not been to Afghanistan yet.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So I went to Afghanistan thinking, wow, I'm going to go see a war that we're winning, right? In 2006, that's what I thought. I hadn't been there yet. So then I ran all over the place without U.S. or British forces on my first trip. I went down there with one of my old Special Forces friends, actually, and who's still a close friend. I just talked with him on the phone the other day. But we went over to Afghanistan together because he built some of the runways and that sort of thing over there, right? And so, and I realized, I was like, wait a minute, this is 2006.
Starting point is 00:35:49 This is supposed to be the war that we won. And it's clear that we're not, actually. But the narrative was that we were winning in Afghanistan or had won, and now we're just kind of building up Afghanistan into Dubai or something, and that we're losing Iraq. And we were losing Iraq at that time. We were actually making some progress on some things. Anyway, not to go into that.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But the bottom line is I wrote 12 major dispatches in 2006. And that was when I was like, yep, I'm going to lose a lot of support and readers on this one because it's very clear that we're losing in Afghanistan. But I'm just going to say, this is what I think. Look, do you want an oncologist that comes and says you don't have cancer because you don't want to hear you have cancer? No, you want an oncologist that comes and says, this is what I think you have. I've been doing this for all these years and I think this is it. I've treated so many patients and this is what we should do right now, right? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:45 And that was what I did with Afghanistan. And that was when I wrote those words because I was signaling, let me tell you, let me, let me finish this. This is important. Sure. So I was like, this is going to cause people to not pay attention to me, but I'm going to tell the truth. And those who stick with me will see that it will probably turn out to be true. I don't know, of course. the time it turned it didn't turn out to be accurate but that was when I wrote if you want to make
Starting point is 00:37:13 money you tell people what they want to hear right and if you want to win the war you tell the truth right now later these mill blogs I called them milk cooks which really upset them badly they started only quoting that first sentence if you want to make money you tell people what they want to hear and they chopped off that next sentence or it may have been just after the comma I don't remember if they had a period or it was just a comma but But those sentences, those words were right together, right? They cut off that next part. Those were the mill bloggers working for the Pentagon, the mill cooks like Black Five and Bill Roggio and the rest of those clowns, right?
Starting point is 00:37:50 And so the bottom line is I ended up being accurate, right? Now, so I started telling people that and then I went back to Iraq and you could see in 2007 that the war started going in our favor again. And I think maybe I was on the Hugh Hewitt show and I said something like, I think the war is starting to change. And I think that was about August of 2007. I was in Operation Arrowhead Ripper. And I think it was starting to go in our favor. And then again, people went crazy. And they're like, hey, this is the worst month of the entire war was, I think August of 2007.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You can look on iCasualties.org, iCasualties.org, if it's still up. And you can see, I think August of 2007 was the most casualties in one month in the entire war. And there I am by satellite phone doing interviews saying, I think the war is going in our favor. And they're like, fool, don't you know that this is the worst month of the war? And I'm like, yeah, you hear those gunshots in the background? That's a real firefight, right? I get it. I'm in it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But we're whipping their asses, right? We're starting to smash them back. We're taking a lot more casualties because we're doing the surge. but one of the things and one of the indicators of why I thought we were starting to do better in Iraq was exactly why I thought we were doing worse in Afghanistan was human, human intelligence. When you start getting more humid that's actionable and accurate, that's a good sign. That's like your blood pressure is doing good. But if you're getting less humant, it's like your blood pressure is going down.
Starting point is 00:39:27 In other words, if people are not co-op, like FBI intelligence would know this right now. Are you getting more human? or less human from people that's actionable, right? Are people giving you more accurate information or less than they did 10 years ago, right? If they're giving you a lot less, that tells you you're losing, right? Because you're losing the population. In Iraq, in 2007, I was starting to watch people come up to us because I was doing so much actual combat. I was starting to watch, I would watch people come up and give us act like the Al-Qaeda.
Starting point is 00:39:58 They're in that building right over there. How many? Four. What weapons do they have? They have those rifles and RPG. G's and where they at that building I put my laser on that one yes that one right there right and we would go kill them or capture them or whatever right and we were this is the thing we were we had them on the run because people were telling us where they were and if people are telling you
Starting point is 00:40:16 where they are we're going to smoke them right and so we were taking a lot of casualties because we were attacking we had more troops in and in combat and but we were inside of their utaloupe we were inside the enemy udaloupe we were inside their replenishment cycle we were diminishing them every day and then you see after august of 2007 the casualties i called it right at the peak of the death market if you want to call it that right at the peak is when i started saying i think we're starting to win i'm not sure but that's what i think and then the casualties went down and they went down dramatically and uh and then we left their act and gave it to uh isis and so there you go you can't make up this stuff so but the bottom line is uh
Starting point is 00:41:02 You have to be on the ground and you have to know what you're looking at. You have to know which questions ask and what's important and what to just throw out, right? And you have to know, you have to be able to think for yourself, not thinking what the intel people tell you unless they're very reliable intel people. There are some that are quite good. There are some military officers that are incredibly good. But most of them, even the military officers, most of them, I'm like, okay, whatever. They might be interesting for some specific information, but when it comes to analysis, many of them are just as useless as some random guy on the street. And so that's why, you know, there's not a lot of people that can do this at a high level.
Starting point is 00:41:44 So, Michael, if you fast forward, though, to today, like you take all your accolades and staring at the problems and seeing in the tea leaves where things are heading and, you know, you go, well, the war is going to grow and it's going to change in unpredictable ways. But as you talk longer, you're actually way more precise than that. You're actually staring at different things. I hear like, you know, when you talk to Darien Gap, you talk of weaponized migration. You see all these different arteries they're starting to get rid of for Europe and on and on. I can't, sorry, I can't read it. Weapons of mass migration. That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So I guess I go, okay, come and sit with me here right now, staring at the world we got going on. where like World War III feels like it's already it's already been going on for some time. We're in it. Right. So I don't know. Like where is this heading or what are you seeing that you want people to know about?
Starting point is 00:42:42 I like to me I guess you know like let's talk about rate this instant in this moment and time and where we're heading. It's clear. It's crystal clear that substantial. substantial enemies are trying to reduce the population of the entire globe, right? Now, these are oligarchical structures. It's not just one guy sitting on a throne, Wizard of Oz style, right? It's groups, oligarchical structures. You got the CCP, you got the Russians, you got the various people in West. You got the Zionists, and the Zionists are not monolithic either. There are Zionist Jews. There are Zionist Christians. There are Zionist atheists, and there are people, there are Zionists who clearly want
Starting point is 00:43:23 to keep the borders open to the United States in Europe, and there are Zionists who clearly want to close the borders, at least to the United States. For instance, I took two Zionists down to the Dary and Gap, Brett Weinstein and Laura Lumer. They clearly want to close the U.S. border. They're straight up Zionists. They'll tell you that all day long. Get them on your show. They'll tell you that. But they want to close the border, right? And Brett's the atheist, and I think Laura's actually Jewish, right? Brett's Jewish, whatever. You know, Zionist does not mean Jew. Zionist is a political party, right? But they try to confuse us with that. But the bottom line is these oligarchical structures are complex. So it's not like it's just people wearing
Starting point is 00:44:02 this color jersey and that color jersey. There's people that change jerseys. There's people that just are like chameleons, of course. This is the normal thing, the normal human thing. What's going to happen? What's going to happen is I think we're going into global famines. Doesn't mean everybody on the world's going to starve to death. But this is how Masako and I predicted things like, for instance, Nord Stream getting cut, groaning and being cut, or screw worms from Panama suddenly, we predicted those like three, three and a half years ago or so, maybe three years ago, that screw worms would start to make a comeback. This is a flesh-eating worm that destroys a lot of cattle and other livestock, like sheep,
Starting point is 00:44:43 kills people even. This is a screw worm that we have stopped in the dairy and gap. The USDA stopped at a couple generations ago, and that, and we irradiate. billions of flies, drop them out by airplanes and other means, and too, because the females flies that make the screw worm larva, they only mate once. If they mate with the irradiated male, they don't produce any offspring. But the bottom line is, these flesh eating flies used to be, or these flies used to be all over the big parts of the United States, and it would cost us billions of dollars in cattle and other. So the USDA, others fought these down out of the United
Starting point is 00:45:18 States, down through Mexico, down through Central America, and the front line is the the Darien Gap, right? So we have a USDA program down there. I got on the trail of this, an Intel guy in Panama told me about three years ago that the Darien is also important to as a front line against these flies. And that was when I immediately thought, uh-oh, these flies will probably end up making it back. I don't, you know, he didn't see the paradigm the way I see it. but I so I reached out immediately to the USDA asking the tour of their facility. They would not let me do it. And the nature of their responses to me is like they're in the cover up mode because
Starting point is 00:45:55 I deal with governments all the time. And you can sense when somebody's covering up. Now we got screw rooms coming back. They're all over Central America now. They're coming back into the United States now. So this was like predicting that this book is going to hit the table. If I drop it, it hit the table, right? Because we know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:46:15 some of these globalists are trying to put us into famine and reintroducing screwworms into the United States and through all these other places would be another additive pressure. The squirrel worms won't do it alone. The fires of the chicken farms and all these food processing facilities won't do it alone. Cutting down Nord Streetman-Groningen won't do it alone, but you're setting conditions, right? You're setting conditions. You're weakening us. You're making us less resilient by taking down this water infrastructure. Now, Dary and Gap, as soon as Biden was installed, Massaco and Chuck Holt and I, we were in Washington, D.C., we flew down to El Paso, Texas, from D.C. to we were there for the inauguration, flew to El Paso because we thought the border would start being flooded with invaders.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Speaking of which, we must use accurate words. You know, words are atomic structures of truth and lies. You have to pick right words. If you call the thing a vaccine, all else that follows is false. It is a weapon, right? It's a weapon of mass destruction. It's a WMD, right? Likewise, these migration, it's not migration. It is a weapon of mass migration, right?
Starting point is 00:47:31 It's invasion. You know, when migration, quote, unquote, is used as a weapon. It's actually called invasion, right? And these have been done through long before any of us were born, long before anybody who had a printing press was born. I mean, this stuff goes back biblically, right? So, I mean, the bottom line is dairy and gap. I thought, well, we left El Paso with the Columbia. That's the beginning of the Darian Gap. And then it goes through Panama. And we went to Columbia, it went into the Darying Gap on that side. It was very dangerous. And then flew up to the Panama side
Starting point is 00:48:05 where it's dangerous, but not as dangerous as a Columbia side. And I've spent about six months down in Panama since that time since Biden was installed down in the Darying Gap in the jungle and out in other parts of Panama looking at other parts of this problem because the Panama Canal is also part of this but bottom line is once you have these famines all these routes that have been opened up like through Morocco into Spain and you suit them a little and all these things I've been over in Morocco looking at once you once these famines start they create what's called hot human osmotic pressure human osmotic pressure is the push and pull of migration there are some things which cause intense hot those are war pandemic and famine which all go together if you get a big war you'll
Starting point is 00:48:52 i mean a big war you'll always get famine and pandemic if it's a big war i'm not talking about you know invading grenade that's just a battle right uh and if you uh if you get a big war there you're going to get famine and you're going to get typhus and that sort of thing epidemic typhus not marine type is not but anyway but the bottom line is uh clearly our enemies are trying to create famine and clearly we're also going into wars and so that with the coupled with the dairy and gap being open the northern canada border which is the biggest land border on earth uh we've been up there this year as well that's wide open both coming and going uh the bermuda people come in from bermuda to florida every day uh there's all these other borders people don't know about and our government
Starting point is 00:49:37 is flying people in from Colombia, from Guatemala. Also, a lot of Chinese and whatnot will just go on vacation in Mexico and then go from Mexico. Many skip the Darien gap. Like Cubans will tend to go through directly to Nicaragua now. In the past, they would go through the dairy and some still do. But mostly the Cubans fly to Nicaragua now or Mexico first, especially Nicaragua, and then they come up through there. But the bottom line is there's all these different arterial and smaller routes that people,
Starting point is 00:50:07 people are coming through. When you get these famines, that huge human osmotic pressure, we're already overwhelmed. Like Ireland is gone. In my view, Canada is already gone. And I think that's pretty obvious for those who have been to Canada recently. What do you mean? Forgive me. Just hold on that thought for a second. When you say Canada's gone, what do you mean? For instance, if you fly up to Toronto and go to Brampton, it's basically India, right? I mean, earlier this year, we went up to a big Hindu temple in Brampton, and I spent about a year in India, by the way, in another year in Nepal and all that whole area, right? So I'm quite familiar with it. And so I went into that big Hindu temple in Brampton and then walked
Starting point is 00:50:54 about 15 minutes down the road to the big Sikh temple. Hindus and the Sikhs are fighting it out over there. This is a huge population. There's no Canadians that live in this one neighborhood. I think there's one maybe, there's one there because we went to visit him. But the whole neighborhood's gone. And so I mean, so it's been, and as you land at the airport in in Toronto, as we did, there was a big welcoming center for Ukrainians, right? It was just a whole center there in the airport for Ukrainians. It's just being, then from Toronto, we flew up to Yellowknife, which again is 250 miles
Starting point is 00:51:26 from the Arctic Circle. And we, it was filled with Afghans and Pakistanis and Nigerians and Somalis. This is 250 miles from the Arctic Circle. right and so then we flew down to uh vancouver and of course you know Vancouver go to chinatown there masaco and i are always going around the world counting claws on the dragons right these chinese dragons that you see everywhere if it has three claws it means you're a friend if it has four claws it means you're a relative like a cousin or whatever if that if the if the dragon has five claws like there's a Chinatown about 10 minutes from me here in Buenos Aires they all have
Starting point is 00:52:04 three claws. That means they're just like, you're our friend. But the ones in Chinatown at Vancouver, they all have five claws. The five clause means we're claiming this land. That's what it means. That's like gangster symbols. The other Chinese know exactly what that means. But the Canadians and Americans are like, they got no idea. China is claiming that land. Every dragon that we saw in that area had five claws, right? So what I'm getting to is it's clear that China is taking. Canada and India is vying for it. I think within the next one or two generations, you're going to see open conflict in Canada, former Canada, between India and China. I think you'll see those two fighting up there, among others, not just those two, but those two for sure, because, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:53 some fish just don't mix well in the same aquarium. If you take Turks and Kurds and you put them in Berlin or you put them in Nashville or you put them in Miami, Turks and Kurds, we're will fight. Kurds and Arabs will fight, right? So, Kurds and Kurds will fight. And so the bottom line is, some fish don't mix well in the same aquarium. And the Indians and the Chinese, they just don't mix. You know, I spent a lot of time in China. I spent a lot of time in India. And I'm telling you, they're going to go heads up. They're going to fight. They're going to brush the Canadians out of the way. The Canadians no longer matter. They don't have the testosterone anymore. They don't have the will to survive. So they're going to die. It's that simple.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Let's just cut through the bullshit and get down to it. So we have these globalists that are putting us into global famines, slowly but surely, setting conditions for this while opening up these major routes like Darien, right? And so now, when Trump gets into office, he can easily close Darien. There's many other, the border can be closed. The border can be closed. Those men and women who say the border can't be closed, slam the door on them. We don't have time for them.
Starting point is 00:54:01 It can be closed. It's been closed before. it can be closed again. The Darying Gap, for instance, was closed during COVID. The Panamanians closed it like a water spicket, not a drop was getting through for over a year, right? It's easy to close the Darian. It's easy to close Mexico through various mechanisms. One is take our military that's running around all over the world and put them right on that border, right? And people are like, what are you going to do if they keep coming? Shoot them. It's time to man up, right? You tell them in, you put a spotlight right in their and say, go back, go back, go back, right?
Starting point is 00:54:34 And if they don't go back, hey, go back, bam, that's it. You only have to do it to a few. It's time to defend our country. We're going into wars. We're already in wars. They're worsening. It's time to be like our grandfathers, right, and defend our own country. It's time to do mass deportations.
Starting point is 00:54:54 This is not a video game. These people, we don't even know how many are in the United States now. When I'm in the Dary and Gap, I've been across the entire southern border, by the way. I don't just go, some people go down on the border and take some photos in Arizona or whatever. I've been from SpaceX. That's one end of the border down there on the Mexico border on the Gulf of Mexico where the Rio Grande dumps out. I've been there, I don't know, 50 times probably. I mean, a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I would say 50 times, right? I've been there a lot all the way across to San Diego. I've been across that entire border. I spent months down there. and a lot of that on the Mexican side, I'm familiar with what that border is. It can be shut. It doesn't mean everybody's going to be stopped.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Some leakers will get through. But when you start playing man games, they'll stop coming. When you start treating this as men would treat it, it will not happen, right? Likewise with the Canadian border. The Canadian border is wide open. It does not even exist, right? And it's over 4,000 miles of border up there. It's totally a naked border.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Food. These food problems are coming. There's no question about it. You see farmland being bought and they're putting solar panels on. They're putting windmills on them. They're doing this in Netherlands, Germany, United States, everywhere. It's time to stop foreigners buying our farmland, right? It's time to stop all this stuff. It's time to get rid of the USDA. How many people does the USDA even employ? Make them all farmers. Get rid of them. We don't need the USDA. We don't need the USDA. We don't need. them at all get rid of them it's time to not make another uh government organization to reduce government organizations that's another k-fabe that's another joke just start cutting them right cut cut cut the u.s government by by double digits and i mean like double digits approximating 90 percent cut it and and we don't all we need is to defend our borders and uh and have a more uh responsible department of state that i see these ambassadors in places like thailand and like christie kennie she's gone now i helped get her out of thailand uh when when i was at an office there we have these ambassadors that go over to places like japan and they embarrass us and it's obviously
Starting point is 00:57:15 intentional right they obviously go to these countries to diminish our stature with places like india they obviously do this we need to cut all these people we don't need them we don't need these giant embassies that are being built in places like the Bahamas. By the way, China has a port in the Bahamas right off the Florida coast. China, the United States is building a huge embassy in Bahamas and China is too. Why are we allowing this? The Monroe Doctrine no longer exists. Earlier this year, I was in El Salvador. The Chinese built a seven-floor library there, and it's got the Chinese Communist Party flag flying right out in front of it. They built China aid built it. So we went into that library. We spent half a day in there,
Starting point is 00:58:02 Massaco and I, there's a restaurant on the top floor. We ate dinner there. And it's just a big brainwashing center there in El Salvador. They're taking these step by step, strangling us, all around us. Chinese are just one of many. We got Americans saying, hey, let's go fight Russia. They're not paying attention to what's going on. Russia is close allies with Venezuela, right? Venezuela has just dumped, I don't know how many Venezuelans have come to America. It seems like I've met half of them coming through the Dary and Gap. The Russia, China, Iran, all have close relationships with Venezuela. They are helping Venezuela with drone and missile technology.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You've seen what the Houthis have done, right? The Houthis just attacked another ship just before you and I were about to go online. They just literally attacked another ship. But I mean, that's the Houthis. You know, the guys in sandals closing major sea routes? You know, that doesn't even include the Iranians and the Russians and the Chinese down there in Venezuela, right on our doorstep within an airstrike distance from us, much less missiles. Americans, many Americans are cheering. Let's go help Israel while we don't have a border, right?
Starting point is 00:59:15 They want to increase the war there with Iran while we don't have a border, right? This is unbelievable destruction of the United States. And not to mention, the biggest weapon to my knowledge that's been unfurled so far is information war. That's intense. But the second biggest is the death jab, right? How many people, how many Americans watching this took the death jab? We don't know what that's going to do to you.
Starting point is 00:59:43 We don't know what it's going to do to those of us who didn't take it. And it's not like, hey, well, they took it and I didn't. Everything's going to be fine. No, our army took it. Our military took it. The young people took it. What's it going to do to their fertility? What's it going to do to their children when they have children?
Starting point is 01:00:00 Listen, there was a drug years ago as a synthetic estrogen, right? It took 40 years to discover, 4-0, not 4, not 14. It took 40 years to discover that the women who took that fertility drug, their unborn daughters were getting. cervical cancer. Their daughters who were not born were getting cervical cancer as they came of age, right? It took 40 years. We have no idea what these death jabs have just done. We have no idea. I've been over in Japan quite a lot with Masako Ganaha and a Japanese doctor called Dr. Yasafumi Murakami. They've got these other facilities where they're making these replicons, these replicant vaccines, these death jabs, which when other people take them,
Starting point is 01:00:50 They spread to us, right? We don't even have to take them. They can get other people to take them, and they're jabbing people with these now. They just threatened to sue Masako last month. They threatened to sue Dr. Mutakami last month because they've been, and I've been over in Japan, warning about these other vaccine, quote unquote, they're weapons, obviously, right? So they're not done. It's not like we gave the jab and, okay, that's done.
Starting point is 01:01:18 You're on to us. No, no, no. This is an ongoing war, right? They're still attacking the food supply. Our borders are still wide open. We've still got people saying that we're going to dedicate our military to defend Israel while we don't have a border, right? This is quite serious. That was a lot. And the only thing I don't.
Starting point is 01:01:43 There's some specifics. No, no. And I appreciate it. The only thing I'm going to humbly disagree on you and fire at me because Michael, you've been staring at a lot of different problems, is I don't think Canada's gone. I mean, during COVID, I saw it for myself firsthand. The numbers come together for the Freedom Convoy and the different people begin to stand up. We may be slow in doing that, but maybe I'm wrong. I mean, you've been all over the world. Certainly, you can walk around Alberta or anywhere in Canada and see the demographic changing
Starting point is 01:02:20 right in front of her eyes as the amount of immigration continues or had been picking up steam. Certainly you can see that. That's very noticeable. I will agree with you 100% on that. But I don't know. To me, just to wipe it off and say Canada's gone, I don't know if I agree with that. I'm doing triage here, right? You know, when you get into war and all these guys are injured.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Sure. And I mean, this is what I'm seeing. I spoke with two Canadian military officers in the last week. one is a senior officer and then one is mid-range right and both of them are like listen your military was training with the Chinese with the people's liberation army in Canada I know you know that right yeah and and at some point once you lose a certain critical mass you've lost the initiative right there's enough political clout and monetary clout and other forms of clout in Canada now that the door is now open for other Chinese and other Indians to come in. They have that clout. If you go to
Starting point is 01:03:22 Vancouver, if you go to Chinatown right now, there's a police station there. It's right. Misako and I walked into it. We talked with them, right? And it's got the Vancouver police emblem up there, you know, but it's a Chinese. Well, I can, I can, I can add to this. That isn't the only one. There's, there's Chinese police stations out in Ontario as well. You got 11 MPs right now active in our current government that have ties to CCP. And they won't release it. and it's a giant scandal. You have tons of things going on. You had the Chinese military training and winter conditions
Starting point is 01:03:54 with Canadians on Canadian soil. It goes on and on. I firmly, I understand exactly what you're saying. Yeah. How bad of a situation Canada is, but I go, if Canadians were to give up, I think that is worse for the United States. The United States needs Canada to pull its bootstraps up. and get going here because what you're talking about if you lose the largest border in the planet
Starting point is 01:04:24 that's not going to bode well for you you worry about the daring gap you lose a canadian border uh all bets are off i totally get it that's why i was in canada earlier this year totally get it that border is absolutely uh naked for starters and also it is like more than 4 000 miles China can land a million troops there. Those aren't people with ties to the CCP. You have CCP people in your government, as do we, right? They're not people with ties to CCP. They're people with ties to your government.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I mean, that's the Chinese Communist Party. You have a Confucius, listen, there was a Chinese program called the Confucius Institutes, right? They are partially run by Confucius Institutes by MSS and United Front and all those guys, right? MSS, the Ministry of State Security, that's the Chinese CIA. That's who's running those police stations, them in the United Front. These are Chinese intelligence, right?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Running those police stations. Masako and I went to that police station in Chinatown up in Vancouver. We went to one over in Dublin, Ireland. We went to one in London. The one in London was more surreptitious. The one in Ireland was a little bit in the open. But the one in Vancouver, right there in front of you, plate glass windows, you know. There's signs up there.
Starting point is 01:05:40 You can walk right in. They'll give you these cigarette holders. It was right down, right next to the drug addicts down there. Not far from where the Canadian government is handing out hard drugs to actually, and we went in there too and they kicked this out. The bottom line is, is I think Canada's lost the critical mass. I'm looking at this as a cold. I'm looking at this. I have to look at this the way I look at war, which is the way a commander should look at it.
Starting point is 01:06:09 What is the reality? Not what I want to be. I don't want Canada to be gone. I don't want the United States to be gone, obviously. Because if Canada's gone, that's it. I mean, obviously China can land everything up there. What are we really going to do, right? What are you really going to do when they do that in Mexico?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Because they are doing it in Mexico. They're buying land right next door. There's lithium right next door. This goes on and on and on. These routes through Texas and whatnot, the governor of Texas, Governor Abbott, clearly as world economic forum. I warned about him many, many times before he was elected.
Starting point is 01:06:45 My conservative friends, I'm in Texas all the time. They're warning me, who do you want, Beto to be the governor? I'm like, obviously not. But that doesn't mean that Abbott is your man. But they're like, yeah, but we have a choice, red pill or blue pill. And I'm like, don't take a pill from somebody you don't know. You know who's offering you those pills? World Economic Forum. Why would you take one of the pills? Don't support either one of them. Support somebody else. They're like, and the same that comes with Trump. Who do you want? Kamala or the guy who pushed the jab? And they'll say he didn't push the jab. He got fooled by Fauci. Okay, okay, okay. Why would I vote for an idiot who got fooled by Fauci? When I and millions of others did not get fooled by Fauci. Why? Trump is a Zionist. He's open about it, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:38 He's completely open about it. But people keep falling for red pill blue pill, right? They keep falling for it. Speaking of which, I just spoke at the W. G. Edward Griffin, Red Pill, or let's say, Expo on Sunday. Because I'm constantly telling people you should read the book, Creature from Jackal Island.
Starting point is 01:08:00 That's an incredible book. Everybody should read the creature from Jackal Island if you haven't read it. So he asked me to speak, and I did on Sunday. But the bottom line is when somebody offers you a red pill or a blue pill, you know, especially somebody you don't even know, you probably shouldn't take either pill and certainly don't take both of them. Do something else. You know, this is a false choice, but the masses of people will fall for it.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That's why here in Buenos Aires, they had a cannabis sympos or expo three weeks ago. We went to it. There's people with babies on their shoulders. There's people smoking dope there and people are like, you know, when I say this is a weapon, you know, the children will, you know, who may be in men's bodies, they'll say, no, this is about freedom. People should have freedom to put whatever they want into their bodies. And I get it. I totally get it. Trust me.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I'm all about freedom. I'm also all about war. War is what I do. War is what I study. War is what I go look at all around the world. And one of those weapons is drugs and alcohol and prescription drugs and death jabs, right? These are all part of the very comprehensive war plan, food migration routes. Michael, what do you make of El Salvador?
Starting point is 01:09:14 I had on Dr. Jack Cruz a couple episodes ago, and I've been following Bucale there over the, I don't know, six, eight months. I don't know what the time frame is. It seems very unusual in today's world. What do you see out of El Salvador? You know, I went down there and took a look. And I would actually advise it for to take a vacation. I would actually, I mean, I was surprised. I mean, it was really, because, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:43 it used to be one of the most dangerous places on Earth. And now I would say not only go on vacation, but actually you could take your family safely, weirdly. And we went all over the place. We went down and looked at a port that the Chinese may be involved in down near the Nicaraguan side. If you can look on the map, see where I'm talking about. Sure.
Starting point is 01:10:03 There was nothing going on. but they're keeping it in good condition. And we went to that library. I like the way that they're pushing the Bitcoin. But what is the Bitcoin? I don't know. I know the Bitcoin people that are watching this will go crazy. It's the new gold or whatever. It's like, whatever, man. I use Bitcoin all the time because my banks give me such a hard time. But do I really think it's gold? I think you're a fool if you think Bitcoin is gold. But it's obviously an incredible investment. It's obviously been an incredible investment. And it's obviously incredibly useful. Those things are obvious. Bitcoin, let's say crypto, but let's go to Bitcoin. Incredibly useful. It's been an incredible investment for
Starting point is 01:10:44 people. And it obviously has an incredible future. But what is it really? I mean, is it some sort of trap? I do not know. I simply do not know. I know that my nose twitches when I think about it. I use it often, again, because the fiat is an obvious trap. The fiat, but bottom line is, I like how El Salvador is using Bitcoin. Let's go down to Venezuela. There are Westerners now moving to Venezuela, Margarita Island. One of the reasons why is Venezuela is actually pushing Bitcoin, I'm told. And I've been talking with these people quite a lot, having dinner with them down here in Buenos Aires and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And they're telling me all about, but also they started to have power outages on Margarita Island recently. But in any case, there's a lot of things going on in the world. There's a lot of strange energies, Russian airplanes constantly landing in Venezuela, that sort of thing. The U.S. dollar is huge in Venezuela. You can swap Bitcoin for huge stacks full of U.S. dollars there. You just can't make up this stuff. So it's a complex world. What do I think about El Salvador?
Starting point is 01:12:03 I would not build a long-term future there. I mean, I think that's a mistake because I'm watching what China is doing. I'm watching China put their footprint. IOM is there. IOM, the International Organization for Migration, is the main engine of the invasion. If you go to the Canadian Embassy in San Salvador, which we did earlier this year, the IOM office is right next door to them. If you go to their office up in Honduras, I think it was. This year we went to Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, Panama a few times, and a few others.
Starting point is 01:12:38 But we're always going to the IOM offices, like we went to this one last Monday about nine days ago. And here in Buenos Aires. But the El Salvadorian IOM is with the Canadian embassy. and over in, I think it was Honduras, they're in the same building. Those Guatemala or Honduras, they're in the same building. If you go to Belize, which doesn't have many aliens going through at this time, there's the biggest IOM office I've seen yet, well, outside of their headquarters in Geneva, but I haven't been to that one, Massaco has.
Starting point is 01:13:12 But the IOM office in Belize is substantial. And the IOM, they only need a small office. They only need an office the size of like, you know, half a floor. in a condo, you know what I mean? They, the small footprint, they're like the Bank of International Settlements. The small footprint goes a long way, right? And so what I'm getting to is the IOM is right there, thick with the Canadian embassy there in El Salvador.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Why? And keep in mind, the IOM is your main problem with the invasions in Canada. Now, that said, the Chinese do their own invasion. They have their own ecosystem, like the IOM. office manager here in, I suppose he was the office manager. He's the guy that came out and talked with us. He looked like he was in charge, but he didn't say his actual job. But here in Buenos Aires came out and talked with us last Monday when we walked in asking
Starting point is 01:14:08 for a job. And he said that I asked him who's the number one groups that are coming to Argentina. He said Venezuelans. And after that, it's Bolivians and Paraguayans. also a lot of people from Africa like Senegal, and I ask about Chinese. He said there's a lot of Chinese that come to Argentina, but Iowan doesn't help them much because the Chinese government helps them, right? So even when you look in the Dary and Gap, the Chinese, even though the Chinese are coming
Starting point is 01:14:38 through the same ecosystem within the pipeline, they're actually a pipeline within the pipeline, right? So many of the Chinese, people often ask, well, why do the Chinese or anybody go through the Daring Gap when they can just go these other routes? I think it's multiple reasons. One is they do come through the other routes. They do come on student visas. They do come on work visas.
Starting point is 01:14:57 They do come through Canada. They do go on vacations in Mexico to all over the place. Mexico City and they go to many. Actually, we found many of their packaged deals. They have packaged vacation deals. And then from there they go to Texas or Arizona or whatever. So they come in all these different ways. And so it's not they just come through.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They come through Bahamas up on the Florida beaches. They come all these different ways, the Chinese and others, right? So they do come these other ways. But I think one of the reasons that the Daryon route is they concentrate on that route is because that eventually is going to be used as an invasion route. I think that the Colombians are going to end up making a claim on Panama. I've never seen anybody say this but me, actually. And I've been saying it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I think the Colombians eventually will make a claim on Panama. Panama and say Panama is ours. They'll be sponsored. I'm just guessing. I think the Colombians will be sponsored by the Chinese and they will start salami slicing or just take Panama because that Panama Canal is absolutely vital to the United States, both economically and for our military, right? And so Panama is a giant pork chop.
Starting point is 01:16:10 It's got they're building a road now down to Colombia. People tell me all the time it's impossible. They can't build the road to Columbia, which is utter bullshit. They built the Panama Canal. right which is a lot more difficult than building a road and a railroad down to Columbia right is child's play to build that anybody that's driven on through Louisiana knows what that road can look like we can build roads through swamps it's not a problem right nor look up to Norway and go across some of those bridges go to go to netherlands and look at those huge dike systems right i mean the road
Starting point is 01:16:41 down to panama to columbia is child's play for serious people with serious money and these are serious people with serious money, right? And there's a serious reason to do it. I think Colombia will end up making a claim on Panama. They'll end up being a war. I'm just guessing. I don't know this, obviously. These are, it just smells like it. You'll end up with, Panama will end up in Chinese hands, is my guess. And now people say that's impossible. The United States will defend it bullshit. United States isn't defending Canada. They're defending Israel. They're not defending Ireland. They're defending Israel. They're not defending anybody, but Israel. They're not defending our own border. They're defending Israel, right? So the bottom line is,
Starting point is 01:17:23 is the Monroe doctrine is gone. People keep talking about the Monroe doctrine as if it's still there, right? It does not exist. And what is the doctrine? What does it say? That we will not allow foreign forces to or foreign interest into this region of South America, Central America, the Caribbean and all this area here that can be used to basically cut us off, right, or to attack us, right? It's a very smart doctrine that, you know, wise men with testosterone thought up a long time ago and we've been enforcing it until now. The Monroe doctrine is gone. China has a port in the Bahamas. Let me repeat. They're doing the same in Antigua, right? They're doing the same in El Salvador. They're doing the same. They're doing the same. They haven't done it yet with Guatemala.
Starting point is 01:18:17 or with Belize, because Guatemala and Belize still have good relationship with Taiwan, Taiwan is desperate to keep those relations with Guatemala and Belize, which are the two countries that are on the southern border of Mexico. Because once Taiwan has no international relations with any foreign countries, like the United States has basically written Taiwan off, you know, despite what we say, despite what we say the reality of it is we've written Taiwan off that's the reality let's get past all the bullshit and get down to the reality part we've written it off right and and so the and so I think that they're going to end up taking Belize why does IOM have a huge office and IOM works
Starting point is 01:19:09 closely with China why does IOM have a huge office in Belize right and there's no serious flow right now the Taiwanese government is helping Belize build roads. That's great. And the Belisians and the Taiwanese get along very well. Very close relationship. That's great. And there's people that think that can't be changed. Those would be the people that know nothing about information war.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Those would be the people that in 2019 would say a billion people would never take the death jab. Well, they would be wrong. In fact, they're probably the people that took it. Right. And you can take Belize. Information War is the highest form of warfare. The Chinese are extremely good at it. They've been whittling away. Most people watching this probably believe that Taiwan is a breakaway province of China. Most people probably think that the people that think they know something about Taiwan probably think that Taiwan is a breakaway province of China. But let me ask you, when was Taiwan
Starting point is 01:20:08 part of China? Never. Never. Not one day, ever, right? But, but you, you, but you, you know, you're you can talk with CIA analyst and everybody else and they'll say well you've got that wrong and i'm like okay mr cia analyst i'm waiting for you to send me i'm waiting for you to send me the documents that show where Taiwan was ever part of china it's just information war that's it information war is amazingly effective Taiwan or let's say Formosa was never part of china it just never happened and but the world believes it so it's true in a sense, right? It's true insofar as the actual mechanisms of war are concerned. It is true insofar as the ability to wage war and isolate Taiwan and then take it. China is coming for
Starting point is 01:20:58 Taiwan the same way that they're coming for us, like an anaconda. They're coming the same way they're coming for Canada to swallow you, not to attack you, but to become you, right? And the Chinese will say that. We're coming to become you, right? They're going to grow like Kudzu. Now you have people with ties to the Chinese Communist Party in the Canadian government. They don't have ties to the Chinese Communist Party. They are in the Chinese Communist Party. You have members of the Chinese government in your government who are elected in your government. We do too. I mean, straight up. I mean, let's just call it what it is. How do you, you know, have you in your travels war, you, you, you, you,
Starting point is 01:21:40 You study this for pretty much your entire lifetime, Michael. Right. What they're doing, you know, and I probably get this a bit wrong because you're on the front line, so you see it and you're like, no, it's pretty blatantly obvious. But to just a regular everyday person walking around, the worst thing I think the worst thing it could do is drop tanks in Canada because it would signal, holy crap, this is real and everybody would wake up to it. So what they do is the anaconda thing, as you're pointing out,
Starting point is 01:22:09 They just slowly, oh, they got a police station. They got a police station. They got a police station. Oh, and then it kind of fades away and people forget about it. They got 11 MPs. 11 MPs? What? Oh, yeah, and they just kind of fades away.
Starting point is 01:22:20 And it's this anaconda thing you're talking about. How do you slap somebody out of this sleepwalk that we seem to be in as we're just, you know, it's the frog and boiling water? How do you get people to wise up to it? You've been taking people to the Dary and Gap now over the, the past how many years? What has worked? Yeah. Well, one way is, I know this is unpopular, but you know, I do spend most of my time overseas. Most of my life has been outside of the United States. This is actually my 99th country that I've actually been to, like truly been to,
Starting point is 01:22:58 right? And so I spend years at a time, sometimes I'll go for like a month and not see another white person, except maybe in the news. That's it, right? So I'm quite familiar. with what drugged up people look like and non-drugged up people look like. When I go back to the United States, I see a lot of people on drugs. I don't know what kind of drugs they're on. I don't know if it's something that they've got prescription or if it's alcohol or if it's cannabis of unknown origin. But they're clearly not firing.
Starting point is 01:23:34 They're clearly not running on high testosterone. They're clearly not running on all cylinders. They're like up their engine is sputtering, right? And they're just asleep. Soma, right? It's the Soma, right? I mean, first, stop watching fools like Joe Rogan, who smoked dope with Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Two of the most influential men in the world, smoking dope in front of millions of young people. What was that? And Elon Musk pushed the death jab. He pushed it. People are like Elon didn't do that. Bullshit. He did it.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I've said this over and over and over. He did it publicly. It's not hidden. Elon Musk was like the science is unequivocal, you know? He stood behind it. He smoked dope with Joe Rogan. These are people that are pushing our people into sleep, sleepwalking, right? You had President Trump pushing Amendment 3 for Florida.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Amendment 3 is the amendment that will allow, people these dope these COVID places you know instantly the the dopers will instantly go well people have a right to put what what's in their bodies I get it I totally I agree actually and and I totally agree I also realized what's really going on first of all this isn't the dope of the 60s right I mean you should see Thailand I've spent years in Thailand I used to have an office in Chiang Mai I was just over there with Doug Casey the famous commodities trader yeah international man yeah yeah In fact, I'll probably see him tonight. He and I do a weekly podcast together.
Starting point is 01:25:12 I just spent a week with him in his here in his apartment here in Buenos Aires. And so I know Doug, right? Doug and I were together in Thailand about a month or so ago. And there are now 9,400 licensed outlets we were told by an attorney in Thailand, 9,400 outlets for cannabis. I've never seen that in Thailand before. I'm very familiar with Thailand. And now we see dope stores everywhere, right?
Starting point is 01:25:43 Now, yeah, they're everywhere you look. I mean, all around you. It's like the matrix of dope. Now, again, people are like, yeah, but people have a right and da, da, da, da-da-da-da. And you're going, morons. Think about this. I agree with you. But look at what it's doing to the population.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Everybody watching this has had at least one family member who is an alcoholic or a dope addict or a gambling addiction, right? And everybody watching this either has been that person or has had one of those people in their families or knows somebody like that. If you have one serious alcoholic or drug addict or somebody with a serious gambling addiction and your family under your roof,
Starting point is 01:26:26 that's like getting a missile right through your, into your household. That can wipe out your family. That can wipe out your family's future. That can end you from the big farmhouse to the small apartment in the city, right? And now, you don't have to get everybody doped up. It does the critical, whether it's prescription drugs or whatever, why do I see so many people, so many of my veteran friends,
Starting point is 01:26:53 they went off to a war or they didn't go to a war. They go to the VA and the VA says, oh, you got PTSD, take these pills. I'm like, you know what? I've known you for years. You didn't start acting crazy until you started taking those damn drugs. Stop taking whatever they were. Why do you need that crap? Did our grandfathers need that crap? They didn't need it. Guess what? I did as much combat as anybody else. And I don't take any drugs. I don't drink alcohol. I don't take any prescriptions. Nothing. Of course, if I get wounded and I
Starting point is 01:27:20 get an infection, of course I'm going to take drugs. I'm going to take whatever it takes to stop the infection. But I don't take anything for my moods, except I like coffee, right? That's it. And I like tea. That's it. And you don't need it. I did it. I did it. I did it. I did it. a tremendous amount of combat and i don't have PTSD i would just go walk up in the himalayas go walk the mount ever stuff like that you know and get in the sunshine if you're listening to sad music throw that shit out stop listening to it right seriously people are like oh i'm depressed i'm like let me see what music you're listening to okay no more elton john no more just get rid of the shit no more taylor swift yeah no more of this crap no more of this uh that that thing that if you look if if you
Starting point is 01:28:04 I got one more question for you because I'm like, okay, if you look here, because this has been really fascinating, you've given me, I'm going to have to go back, I'm going to have to listen this again, and I'm going to reach back out to you, and we're going to redo this all over again because I'm going to have about a thousand questions come from my audience. If you look into the next year, right, because some of the things you're talking about, I'm like, holy crap, okay, like, you know, and then I go back to even Doug Casey. Because Doug's been on the show before, right? Some of these things take 40 years, as you pointed out.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Some of them are going to take the next three months. When you look at the next three months, do you see big things coming? You know, you got Donald Trump love or hate the guy, the next president of the United States, talking about ending the wars and different things like that. What do you see in the near future? Timing is where I can get things wildly wrong. Sure. Because timing is very, that's, that's voodoo.
Starting point is 01:29:04 On some timings, it can be easier to predict than others, but what will happen next? Now, will Trump actually move, let's just talk about the Dary and Gap? Because that's a finite trace, and it's easy for me to audit that, right? Because I've got it all stitched up. You can't basically walk, you can't do anything in the Dary and Gap without me figuring it out very quickly, right? And so Dary and Gap, if he wants to close it. the Dary and Gap, he can close it in a week or two. It's very simple because the now people say no, he can't do that. Don't you understand? Panama's a different country.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Yeah, trust me, Rambo, I get it, right? I get that all the time. I get it. But I also know that it was my team, Operation Burning Edge with Massaco Gonaugha and Ann Vandersteel and some other incredible teammates who helped set the conditions for the current president of Panama to run on a platform of closing the Dary and Gap. That was us. Yeah, we get it. Not only do we get it, we're deeply involved in it, right? We set those conditions, right? We know that the Panamanian government is ready to close the Darian Gap. We know that they can close it because they did it during COVID, right? Now, if the U.S. government wants to close the dairy and gap, it will be closed. The U.S. government is the one keeping it up open. Now, anybody who says we need to do tariffs against Panama to close it is either
Starting point is 01:30:20 part of the problem or has no idea what's going on. They just don't know. Even if they've been there, If they've been to Panama and they're like, we need to put tariffs on Panama to close the Dairy and Gap, bullshit. You're out of, you're not even at the table. The adult table knows that Panama wants to close the Dairy and gap. Tariffs will just alienate Panama and push them further towards China, right? Panama still has, weirdly, some affection to the United States. And they will work with us. They are actually concerned about China or China, as they call it.
Starting point is 01:30:53 They're very concerned about China. They're very concerned. They're not as concerned as much about the United States. They want us to help them keep that canal. That was our canal, by the way. If you say that in Panama, it drives them nuts. But we did build it. And we're the ones who helped Panama split off from Colombia.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Panama was not a country until we sponsored that breakaway. And that is the basis that I think Colombia will use to say Panama is ours because the United States helped it split off so they could build a Panama Canal, which we did. We did it openly, right? And we used our Navy to block the Colombians way back when. The canal opened in 1914, right? And so the bottom line is it's a different world. China is moving all over the place, whether it's Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, El Salvador, of course, all these places. In Honduras, you wouldn't believe it. And I've been to every country from Canada all the way down to Colombia. Right now I'm in Argentina. I haven't been to all the country. in between there, but I've been watching these things for years. And so I have some basis for the things I'm saying, and it's not from reading financial times. It's from going out and being with peoples in these governments,
Starting point is 01:32:03 being with farmers in these different countries and that sort of thing. I really appreciate you giving me some time today. This is, I've got to give a shout out to retired Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Murray for hooking this up. He was the man that put us in touch. And I hope at some point you'll come back on again. but I do appreciate you hopping on, Michael, and doing this. And, well, I'll be paying attention to what comes next on your side of things.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Thank you, Sean. Anytime. There's a lot to talk about.

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