Shaun Newman Podcast - #775 - LTC Steven Murray

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

LTC Steven Murray is a former Information Warfare Officer and Cyber Defense Battalion Commander who now provides analysis on current events through various platforms including podcasts, social media and video content on Rumble. We discuss Shawn Ryan, priming a false flag, Canada becoming the 51st state and child trafficking. Cornerstone Forum ‘25 https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Contribute to the new SNP Studio E-transfer here: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone]

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I'm talking about retired lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today, I'm joined by retired lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray. Thanks for hopping back on. I ain't no worries, man. It's always good to be on your show.

Well, you know, I had you back on in October. You scared the living crap out of me. I've told this a few times. But it's since spurred on a lot of interesting conversations. And then we entered the New Year, and, you know, on New Year's Day, you had New Orleans happened, then you had the Tesla truck, and on and on and on this song and dance goes. You know, I watched, listen to Sean Ryan, and I don't know, there's a whole bunch going on, I guess. Steve is what I'm talking about.

And I'm like, well, I should just get you back on because your early prediction was, well, I don't know, the dates may have been off, but like certainly was starting to transpire in the United States. I'm like, is this going to slow down or is it going to ramp up? What are your thoughts and what are you hearing? So how do I say this? So back in October, we were watching, my whole team was watching all these lines of operation converging, right? We were seeing things happening. We were being told things were going to

happen. We were being told, you know, tax are possible. I'm still hearing all that, right? But what I've gotten out of the game of is trying to predict when these things are going to happen because the interesting thing about social media right now. Let's, and I'll talk about Sean Ryan in just a second, is that social media tends to unravel things before it can catch hold and before it grows legs in the mainstream media, and usually things are dispelled within hours of actually occurring. The, the, my view of the Vegas and the New Orleans attacks is really, it's all noise. They, whoever is behind this, and a lot of people think it's the CIA or, you know, nefarious actors in the CIA, whoever you believe that to be, they did two narrative,

to see what was going to stick in the public space. And neither one of them stuck. And it generated more questions from an information perspective than it answered. And case and point, Sean Ryan did the show with Sam Schumann. And I know Sam. I worked with him for a little over three years to push information about intergovernmental agreements. And I'll get to those in a second, as well as accountability in the military. and the vaccine mandates.

I mean, the guy's way above board. He bleeds integrity, but yet his reputation has been destroyed, along with Sean Ryan's, because of these two broadcasts. And they did a show on Saturday. Then they did a show on Sunday or a show on Friday and a show on Sunday to try and dispel some of the blowback that they were getting from social media. And my view of the whole thing is somebody used those two guys to legitimize the narrative because it was blowing up from the original attack on New Year's Day.

And because of the fact that this, you know, this manifesto was released and it doesn't add up. Like Chinese subs launching anti-gravitic drones from, you know, the East Coast. Yeah, right. Sure. That's never going to happen. The Chinese don't have a blue water navy. They have a lot of ships, but they're not a blue water navy yet. They're still built in islands in the South China Sea because they can't get the carriers to work. And it doesn't mean they're never going to get them to work. It just means that they haven't got to the place where they're sophisticated enough to carry out complex operations like that. So that narrative doesn't stand.

The narrative about the war crimes that occurred in Afghanistan in 2019, okay, that's plausible. Some of that's true. I don't know how much of it's true. But what that does is it ties everything back to Trump. So Trump's accountable for war crimes under his watch in Afghanistan in 2019. That's where that narrative's going. Then the narrative around China and the U.S. having drones, et cetera, et cetera, and this mutually assured destruction, okay, we've had nukes on the planet for, what, 75 years and we haven't blown each other up yet because nobody wants to start a nuclear war. That's just, that's smoking mirrors too.

The whole drone narrative that's been going on for the last couple of months, that's noise. So we're seeing this constant shotgun blast of information and some kind of activity. to see what the public will buy into. And the good thing for the general population right now is that, number one, none of these narratives are sticking because the planet's fatigued with war. The population doesn't trust the mainstream media. The population doesn't trust law enforcement or the FBI or the intelligence agencies. And when you start going after military guys like this Delta Force operator,

whether the guy was in the truck or not, there's a question, you know, there's a question about, is it really him in the truck? And then he used a Desert Eagle 50 cow to self-eliminate. Okay, that's a big weapon. And that's a big ground. There would be more brain matter and everything else over the inside of the car and then the gun dropped straight between his legs, although it's staged nonsense. And everybody sees that. But the problem is, is that people are so distrusting of everything that they distrust literally every piece of information that's put out and everything's picked apart. To me, the bigger thing to watch here right now is this conversation about unifying Canada and the U.S. That's a very dangerous conversation for a lot of different reasons.

The Greenland conversation and some of the other conversations related to North America, I think that's all noise. But this unification piece isn't noise and it is very dangerous. And what it does is if it actually comes to fruition, then we're looking at agenda 2030 and the unification and creation of economic opportunity zones or geographic economic zones, which is right out of agenda 2030, which none of us want, right? Do I think that the U.S. and Canada could unify? Yeah, that would be easy. That would be, you know, it'd be an adjustment for everybody, but it would be easy. but does that make sense does it does it make sense for the population and who would benefit from that because it certainly wouldn't be the general population right and you just had your prime minister

step down yesterday which make which begs the question which equally awful or useless person are they going to replace him with because he was he was awful and useless so they're going to replace him with somebody equally awful and probably more useless than Trudeau so you got you got a couple of different situations going on right now, none of which poed well for either the American public or for the Canadian public. So I'm watching that. I'm not watching the noise that's over here from the Vegas stuff and from the drone stuff because it's all noise. And I think the next things that we're going to see is we're going to see some kind of an issue or some kind of an attempt on Trump again, because I don't think we're out of the woods on that one. And I just read like five minutes before the show,

that they're going to do sentencing for this, this hush money trial on Friday. So if that's their play, they're going to have an insurgency on their hands because there's a lot of people here that are really, really angry. And the other piece of it, too, is I'm waiting to see what they do with Trump's cabinet because that will determine what happens over the next three and a half years. And I don't think we're going to see everybody in place until at least July at the earliest. And even then, it's going to take the rest of the year to start to clean out some of those organizations like the up. So I don't think we're done with the theatrics and the drama in Washington, D.C. And to me, that most of that is just noise. I think the signal in all of this that comes through loud and clear is that everybody in the community,

and I mean all the intelligence community, all of the Special Forces community, and all the people that are paying attention in the truth community are all seeing that they're trying to build a narrative for some kind of a big event. And if you go back to Sean Ryan for a second, he had Sarah Adams on and she was talking about how the CIA and the government and DHS are funding al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. And I told my whole audience to go listen to it. Don't listen to the nuances of it.

Listen to what she's saying to you. She's saying to you that our government is funding a terrorist organization that we spent the better part of 20 years fighting in Afghanistan and in Iraq that's a construct and a creation of the CIA, and now we're funding them and bringing them here and funding an attack on our own soil. That's literally what she said in over an hour. And I take her to work, do it. That's the other piece, too. Anytime you try and agree with somebody that people think is an asset, they lose their minds. And it doesn't matter to the messenger is right now. What matters is the message is loud and clear that our government is planning

something against our people. And a lot of people see it now. And I don't know where to go with that yet because it's too early in the narrative creation to figure out what their play is going to be. But if I was a betting man, I would say that they want to create another 9-11 style event so that they can impose more draconian measures. Like they want control of Jones. They want control of crypto. They want control of information. And they want the cultural narrative. back. What a better way to do that than create another 9-11 and blame it on Iran or Al-Qaeda, because then it helps them widen the war in the Middle East, which Israel wants a war with Iran. They've been, you know, saber-rattling for what, 10 years now? And they've pushed hard to get us

involved in the conflict in, you know, southern Lebanon with Hezbollah. And then all of the activity in Syria, which cut the land bridge with Iran, it's prime. And, you know, and, you know, And it's a good opportunity for Israel if we get involved now because it services all of their long-term aims and strategic interests in the region for the foreseeable future. And it also gets us in a protracted conflict back in the Middle East and they don't have to pay the freight for it. We pay the freight for it. So there's lots of converging information lines right here.

I don't know which one's going to stick or which one they're going to use, but they're obviously trying to build some kind of a narrative for some kind of an attack. And I would, I would like to think that social media has disrupted their operations time and again, because the, the thing that I've seen that I didn't see in Iraq, which I'm seeing more and more now is you're seeing average Americans that are doing deep dive research on all of these different activities and they're ferreting out all the relationships. and they're showing where all of the incestuous relationships in DC are, where all of the synergy and connections are to all these foundations,

like the Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation, et cetera, and the intelligence agencies that before the general public never had access to. And now because of this truth movement, all of these narratives are getting disrupted before they can take root. And that to me is what I see disrupting their operations. and their ability to build a narrative that's sticking with the American public. Because think about 9-11, right? They told us for six months that there was terrorist activity and we were primed for a terror attack

on American soil. Then the planes hit the Twin Towers and Building 7 fell down and we were off to the races. And nobody gave it a second thought until almost 10 years later when people started looking at why did Building 7 come down. And then there was all kinds of censorship around people talking about Building 7. And now it's back in the media space because of Twitter. And now people are starting to question that narrative. And they're starting to question the ramp up to that.

And the prevailing wisdom and the prevailing thought process is that Mossad was behind that attack. And if that's the case, that's an act of war. That's an act of war by one of our allies. And that would be a very significant thing. The USS Liberty came up again too, which has not been discussed in, what, 40 years? And now the USS Liberty is coming up and it's being, It's being publicized both in the mainstream and alternative media that U.S. Navy was told to stand down when the ship was being attacked by Israel.

And that in and of itself is a revelation that I think most people don't even know about history. So we're seeing things in the media space now that we weren't able to see before. And it's starting to open people's eyes to a lot of the narratives that they're trying to push. And where we're really seeing that now is in the UK and we're seeing that in Europe because of the fact that you got all these rape gangs and everything else. Like you got to ask a question, why is Elon bringing that stuff up now? Why is the H-1B visa discussion going on right now? To me, those two things are distraction at the same time they service another line of operation. The other line of operation that we haven't talked about is the human trafficking, the child trafficking, and the crimes against children, which is what this specific allegation.

of these rape gangs, this specifically addresses that. And it's forcing the UK government, as well as all the MPs, to come out and publicly either denounce or publicly go after Elon Musk. And you can tell who the pedophiles are when you start looking at how they're trying to defend what's going on over there. So I think that there's something or someone behind the, I don't want to say the Trump people, because it's not really who it is, but there's a movement behind the whole Trump situation that I think is driving disclosure a lot of different things. And I think they're doing it for the

simple fact that they want to keep the public distracted until they can get social scoring put in place and some of the agenda 2030. I don't think agenda 2030 has gone away. I don't think the globalists have lost, quote of quote. I think they've just rebranded and repackaged their BS and they're trying to push it through a different medium now. Because you can't. explain how Elon Musk went from staunch Democrat to Trump supporter overnight, and now he's, you know, attached to the administration. We've replaced one set of oligarchs with another set of oligarchs, and everybody's cheering like it's a good thing. And to me, the proof's going to be in how they administration acts once you finally gets to office and what they actually do. Because we have

systemic things we need to fix, like the Patriot Act needs to be completely repealed, to the point where we go back to airports that are wide open where you don't have to go through seven layers of security and gates to get to your gate and go do air travel. And we need to remove ourselves and extract ourselves from the Middle East and stop trying to create conflict over there and let the regional level out. And we also need to get out of Europe and get out of this whole notion that we still need NATO forces in Europe and we still need U.S. forces and U.S. bases there. We don't need to do that anymore. We can repatriate and bring our forces home and protect our own borders for a change and start looking at how we're going to deal with China because at some point we're going to have

to deal with China. We're not ready to do it now and they're not ready, but at some point we're going to have to. And whether that's an information war, an economic war or both plus kinetic, it still remains to be seen. But at some point, we'll have to go and deal with the Chinese threat in the South China Sea as well as in the region. And right now they've proven that they've proven that just want to be a regional player. They don't want to be a global player other than economically. But they're pervasive here in the U.S. and pervasive in Canada. And we need to, one, remove all the CCP elements and provocateurs from across our country. You know, this idea of mass deportations to get back to Norlitz. I don't see how Trump's going to do that. I don't see how anybody could do

that with all the people that we brought in here. We've given up free stuff, free housing, free money, etc. The Chinese have used that as an opportunity to bring in Chinese police stations, to bring in CCP operatives to infiltrate local and state government to infiltrate not just the United States Navy, but the other branches. And nobody's even taken a look at that. So we have some very systemic issues that we're going to have to face before we even look at dealing with China. One of them is getting rid of all the CCP operatives here in the country. And there's probably over two million of them. So there's a lot of systemic things going on. That was a lot. I was smiling before I started and Steve was laughing at me and I'm like,

let's go. And he just gave me information by fire hose. So I hope everybody was, was had that on single speed so they could keep up. Okay. I want to go back. You just said, I was writing it down as we're going. I probably missed a few things. But I want to start. I throw everything out there just so you could pick something and we could just go off. Well, well, I want to start with Sean Ryan. Because I really respect what Sean Ryan has done with his podcast, what he's done with his show. The guests he's brought on. I don't see him at why. I mean, there's been a lot of talk about his interview and the email and everything else.

And so I want to just start on Sean Ryan and get your thoughts on like that whole, I don't know, saga episode, like him going in hiding, like everything. When you take a step back and just focus in on that for a second, what do you make of all of it? I think two things. I think that he and Sam were used to legitimize the narrative and that somebody behind that email account created that stream of messages. And they both were compelled to release that information as well as contact the FBI and contact CID, etc. Because if they wouldn't have done that, then they both would have all of their equipment confiscated, all their information confiscated, and the federal government as well as the FBI would know exactly who they were communicating with and it would compromise all of their relationships. So they did the right thing. Now, do I have questions about how Sean Ryan stays on both YouTube and some of the other platforms, Eon, with the censorship that's been going on on YouTube over the past 10 years? now where he's talked about things that have gotten other people banned within minutes,

but yet he's still on YouTube. I have questions about that. But my initial reaction, so I did a post on Twitter on Friday, Thursday or Friday, and I called out that specific thing. What I didn't do was follow up with the fact that I didn't do it for a couple of days where I followed up and I actually talked to people that know him. And everybody that I've talked to from the special force community that knows him has very, very good things to say about him. So I don't know him personally, but just because he's on YouTube doesn't mean he's a CIA asset, which has been the assertion all along. What I'd like to understand is how do you stay on YouTube and stay monetized where they have

hammered everybody else in the space that's talked about UFOs, that's talked about government conspiracy, that's talked about Blackwater, that's talked about Obama, that's talked about what happened in Iraq. Those questions still need to be answered. But do I think the guy's a CIA asset? No, I don't. I think he's legitimately trying to put out information. I think he's legitimately trying to run a show where people get real information.

And the problem is that you have a community that's really distrusting and really set in on what they believe is true. And so no matter what you say, even if you put out real information, there's going to be a group on the fringe that doesn't believe any of it. and I think that's what they were they were both I don't want to say captured by but they were both affected by that but but but let's think about this because it's one of the things I wanted to I wanted to you know you're talking about I I wrote priming before a false flag right because you're like they're building to something and there's a whole bunch of lines converging but nobody seems to know because social media along with podcasting and all these different avenues seemed to disliked to dissoning spell a lot of what they're trying to build. Okay. But I'm like, but these guys got billions of dollars. They've been studying the human race for how long. And they're actively trying to figure this out. So they just, in a fatal swoop, maybe not destroyed Sean Ryan, because I believe Sean Ryan has a group of followers or a group of his audience that are very faithful and don't think he was acting in bad faith and was trying to put things out. And I'm like, oh, I, okay, all right.

But they're actively going around then, trying to find ways to use what is what is really ballooned. And one of them has been Sean Ryan. I mean, like his rise has been insane to watch, right? Like, it's another question, right? Sure. It generates other questions about how are you getting more airtime. It's like Cali and Casey, I can't think of those two. Means.

Means. Yeah, those two. I listen to him on Danny Jones with. Yeah, with Jack Cruz. Jack Cruz. That was, I would have done exactly what Jack Cruz done. Only I would have crucified him because when you sit there and you're, and Jack Cruz is a, he's a neurosurge.

And there's another doctor right across the table from him, both saying the same thing, that the vaccine is dangerous, it's unproven, and it destroys your immune system. And you have a lobbyist sitting across the table talking about, we have a unique opportunity to go through, I mean, I could go down the road of why that guy's shit. like a politician. Yeah.

Well, he sounds like a, that's a good word for it. He sounded like a lobbyist who's trying to get the big gig in D.C. is what he really sounded like. But that said, that's a perfect example of how you put somebody in the public space to disrupt the narrative that goes against the narrative you're trying to push, which is that vaccines are safe and effective. That's being slowly but surely eroded in the public space as well as in the alternative of space and they can't do anything about it anymore.

That's why they won't control the cultural media. That's why those two showed up because they're able to disrupt to get people deflected off of what's really important. And that is the vaccines have to be banned right now because it's killing people right now. I personally, and this is a question I wanted to ask your audience, how many people do you know that died from COVID? And then how many people do you know since COVID have died since they've gotten the

vaccine. I can tell you in my, just personally, three people. In fact, one of my best friends, we had an argument the night before she went to get a booster because it was a mandated. She was a, she was a nurse practitioner in oncology. And I said, do not get the third shot. You got the first two. You probably will be able to recover, but don't get another one. She was dead the next day. You got her third booster and she was gone. Another friend of mine literally died in the parking lot after he got his second shot. So I'm looking at this going, I'm not a doctor,

but I'm seeing people die from this personally. There's something wrong with that. So when I go to the Danny Jones interview, Steve, I didn't hate everything he said, but that's probably because he's a lobbyist, right? And it's probably because he's paid and everything. But where, I'm like, why can't he answer that question?

You take everything else he said. Just take it away. They have, Do you, I forget how they, they say it. If you haven't listened to the interview, you really should. Because here's Jack Cruz, who's been on the podcast. And thanks to you, by the way, for helping point me in the direction of getting that on. It's because of you that it comes to fruition.

And the thing, the thing that loses me almost immediately is if you can't say that that's bad, right? Because he's doing, I can just see him doing the mental animal. I can't say that because this is politics, whenever. And that's why I say he sounds like a politician, because I can't say black or white things. As soon as I say are black or white thing, we're going to lose some support and on and on and on. But the thing that all these guys miss, or maybe they don't, and I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts. My brain goes, the thing they miss is exactly what you're talking about. Well, how many people died from COVID?

I don't care. I don't care at this point, right? I don't even care how many people are hospitalized. We can try and go out that thing. How many people do you know that have been harmed by the vaccine? Not even on death, harmed. I was sitting at a man camp this last, what was that, June folks? I think June.

And we were just having a conversation, two of us. And two guys walked by hearing it. Stop dead in their tracks, walked over and said, I took the vaccine and I've had issues with this ever since. This is in the, I'm like, this happens in my life all the time. I'm literally talking to a woman at a BC right now who's trying to get help because she's having horrendous issues. She was just in hospital again.

Like these stories now come to me because of what I do for sure. But personally, I can, I've lost count of the amount of time somebody has been like, oh, this has been messed up or this has been, I haven't been able to do these things anymore. I've had issues with this. I've had blood clots. I mean, on and on and on and it goes. So the fact you can't go on an interview, knowing this is going to come and say, yeah, you know, if I had the power, because it wouldn't have been that hard to say,

if I had the power to get rid of this vaccine tomorrow, boom, done. That would have been the obvious answer. And instead, that's not what he says. So as soon as he doesn't say that, you're like, well, I can't trust anything you're going to tell me after this. Because if you're not on that side of humanity, I don't know what side of humanity you're supposed to be on. But that isn't my team anymore. No. And I, there's, there's, so there's a couple parts to this.

So I need to, I need to say this. So people don't, people realize that I have a vested interest in this. my oldest has was vaccine injured when she was very young and she's dealt with health issues her whole life these weird allergies these weird elements these weird things with with both her metabolism i mean she's got she's had weight issues her whole life because her body does regulate itself she's had a host of issues for her whole life so to say i'm biased is probably a mild statement more like a psychotic fucking hatred of the pharmaceutical industry is probably a better descriptor of it. So I'm automatically suspect of anything anyway. But to see this play out

over the last four years and people not realize that there's causation and causation and correlation with vaccine industry injuries and there's people that are still blissfully unaware is mind-boggling to me. But it shows you how effective the information campaign, but more importantly the censorship has been for the past five years that allowed the pharmaceuticals to get away with this. But But it's even bigger than that because I'm with Jack Cruz. If it was up to me and I was going into office and I was going to be the commander chief, the very first thing I would do is I would activate the 82nd Airborne and 101st, I would go to DC and I would start arresting everybody that was affiliated with the pharmaceuticals

and anything related to that vaccine. And Trump needs to stop talking about warp speed because warp speed didn't help anybody. speed made it okay and made it opportunistic for the pharmaceuticals to get away with not doing any testing and then they passed the cares act which allowed the pharmaceuticals unlimited indemnity i would go get borla and send a kill team after that guy tomorrow and then i would arrest everybody to directors at Pfizer and moderna and johnson and johnson and that would bring them in a waterboard every single one of them to find out who the belly button is behind it that did all of this because it's going to lead back to Fauci.

And then that guy would get a very public trial at Gitmo and a very public execution. Because what these guys did is crimes against humanity. And the only guy talking about it is Jack Cruz. And if you don't think that's true, then you should go look at the numbers in the Bears database that have been obfuscated over the last four years since they released this vaccine. And then go look at the military bears and look at how many pilots have died in the cockpit from these vaccines. And that may change your opinion about how safe and effective they are. But this is a war crime.

This is the biggest crime in the world history. And we're talking about it as if it's just a pharmaceutical problem or legislation problem. That was my problem with Cali, is that he's looking at a war crime. These are crimes against humanity. We have a moral obligation. I have a moral obligation as a field grade officer to go and round these people up. This is treason at the highest level. And the only guy talking about is Jack Cruz.

So if it doesn't make your blood boil, there's something seriously wrong with you. Because they did this across the planet. And they did the biotesting in China. That's an act of war. I mean, I don't know how more clear I can be about it. But this is the problem with the whole situation is Trump's coming back to office. And he's still talking about how warps feels a good thing. and there's no indication that anybody, even RFK, is going to ban any of these vaccines.

And that to me is the problem. It means who did Trump make a deal with to get back in office? And who was calling the shots? And why did all these pharmaceutical companies have an emergency meeting after the election? And why is Bill Gates kissing the ring? Why is he still alive? That should item number two, walk in, activate the 82nd, 100 first. Item two, issue a kill order on Bill Gates, or at least go round the guy up and take him to Gitmo and figure out what else he's been doing.

Because the guy has killed how many people across the planet and it's been proven what he did in both India and in Africa with vaccines. And this guy's still walking the planet. That tells me there's something seriously wrong in Washington, D.C. And that whoever is the deep dark behind all of the Trump administration right now is deeply involved in this. well. So until we get to a point of clarity with who was doing what with the vaccines and how the vaccines were approved and what Trump did know or didn't know, all that needs to come out. And I don't see Cash Patel doing that because he's going to have his hands full just cleaning out the FBI and cleaning out the CIA and arresting people that committed real treason on January 6th and on

January 20th of 2020. I mean, there's a host of people there too. So you've got all these conflict situations that now it's systemic. And unless we can root these people out and get enough people to understand what selfless service is and what an oath of office is, we're never going to get to the bottom of what really happened during COVID. And I can tell him, my twin brother died of cancer in 2020. He had a watermelon-sized tumor in his stomach, and he died of COVID. That should tell you everything you need to know about how corrupt the whole narrative was from the start. And it's not just, and Jack is, Jack is right. It's not just about the pharmaceuticals, the legislators, or the businesses that were the ones pushing this. You have doctors in the,

in the medical system. You have administrators in the medical system that were mandating this, that were making money off of it, that were getting bonuses. All those people need to be held accountable, too. And then you have to hold the American Medical Association accountable. Then you have to hold the state licensing boards accountable because the people that didn't go along with it lost their licenses and the AMA, the law fair against doctors that were trying to speak out against it for hydroxychloroquine, for ivermectin, and all the other therapies, they have to be held to account too. I mean, this is a massive conspiracy. It's not like it's a, it's an isolated problem to Washington, D.C. This goes across every single state. And every single medical board is still persecuting

doctors that don't go along with the program. And they're still, they're still giving the medical system bonuses to push the vaccines even when they know they're not safe. And the fact that Jack came out and said that SV40, Sv-40, is the root cause of cancer and it's he's found it in the vaccines. That should be a, that should have been alarm that goes across the entire Department of Defense because that, that not only affects our sovereignty, but it affects our strategic interest and it affects our population. Because the other part of this that people don't realize is the second and third order effects of this is that everybody took the vaccine at some point is going to be a long-term

health care. They're not going to be able to work, which means we've probably cut our workforce and cut our population down by at least a third that we know of, assuming the numbers are even close to being realistic based off all the inflation of the numbers, the obfuscation, et cetera. So then you've got a third of the population that's now affected by this and their immune system slowly being destroyed, which means at some point they're going to be dependent on the health care system to be able to function in society. That's not the vaccine injured. There's a whole separate population of vaccine injured that's affecting not only insurance rates, but they're

affecting the hospital system and the medical system by burdening the medical system with long-term care. So you have the second and third order effects that are now starting to kick in, and that's going to be a massive problem. And then there's the question of how do you unwind what they've done to people? Can you unwind it? Or are people stuck with this? And then we have to figure out another workaround to give people longevity and quality of life. I mean, there's a host of issues from the vaccines that aren't even being addressed. And the part that kills me about all of it and the part that gets under my skin like a rash is I see Bill Gates walking around still talking about vaccines, still talking about, you know, doing more vaccines. And now there's this replicator

RNA vaccine that they're trying to, they're trying to test. And, you know, they've already proved shedding of the spike protein, right? Which another case and point. This is another observation I've had with my kid. So my oldest, her husband gets, he gets boosted. She gets sick with a weird infection for at least six to eight weeks that they can't cure with, with antibiotics, spike protein every single time he gets a booster she's he's sick for six weeks every single time and nobody the doctor calls it long covid and she's lucky i didn't go with her last time because i probably would have been him senseless if he would have said that to me because i'm i don't know about the rest of you but i'm done here in long covid i'm done here in this nonsense that it's a

covid related illness no this is a vaccine related illness that's directly attributable to somebody who got the vaccine and now everybody around them sick because it's shedding, they're shedding the spike protein. That's been proven in a lab. So yeah, I could go on and on, Sean, but you get the point. Let me address something, though, because I want to go back to Sean Ryan. I think that right now, people need to stop worrying about the messenger and they need to start listening to the message. And the message is, and I don't know how true it is, but I'm taking some of this at face value. And that is, there's going to be an attack in American soil. They're setting up for an October 7th style attack. I don't know how real that is. I don't know

how true that is. I don't even know if it'll come to fruition. But everybody should have extra food, extra water. And if you don't have firearms, you should have a firearm and should stay out of the conflict space if it does happen. I'm glad you brought it back to this. Okay. So I was, I did not have my red pill moment or whatever you want to call it, folks, until long after September 11th. I was sitting in high school at September 11th. So like, I didn't even understand what that meant, you know, like I think back to it. I just, you know, like, I can't even, I can't even begin to relate to back then right now.

So I go, okay, 9-11 happens, and there would have been people that saw that for what it was. I have a hundred and ten percent belief that there were people that were like that wasn't us. That didn't happen. What about building seven? What about this? And it would have been easier to censor them. I think we can all agree on that, right? Like this avenue wasn't there.

Now, we have big tech. We have the ability to do podcasts. But we've also seen when it came to COVID, although Spotify didn't shut down conversations, that was one avenue. And there was others. You went on Twitter, boom, off, Facebook, boof, off. YouTube, right here, YouTube channel, nuked, gone. And you think, okay, so you had one avenue, Spotify.

And there was probably others. I don't mean to just point out that. There were others, Rumble and others. I'm not affiliated with any of these companies. I don't know why I care. Other than just to say there was a few other ways. But the major platforms, gone, shadow band, et cetera, et cetera. So when I look at this, okay, the problem with something happening,

on U.S. soil, like a major event like 9-11 happening. And having the same effect that 9-11 had is right now they don't control a huge chunk of the media sphere. Or maybe they do. Maybe you disagree with me. I don't know. They don't know Danny Jones did. They don't control the cultural media.

The cultural narrative, right? Right. So Danny, they're trying to pull it back, Steve. And I'm like, okay. So how are they going to do that? So that's why Sean Ryan's really fascinating to me. me because here's this guy meteor cries i've listened to enough of them we can sit here and get into like maybe this maybe that but i'm like i just think he epitomized a lot of what human beings

were we're going through and understand he taught had some very interesting guess and i could be maybe naive to this a military background certainly helped and i just look at his style everything i'm like man he hmm i really enjoy it but now i see what happened to him and i'm like so is that oops or is that more like we need to try and get the media back because if we don't have the media we can do all the 9-11s we want I shouldn't say that I'm not challenging anybody to do that because at some point the media can say what they want but at some point there's probably a large enough event where it'd be hard even having the the mainstream media out of the picture where people dying and having their lives ruined where anyone could be talking about it and take the narrative

back away from what it is because 9-11 when it happens you could have been screaming at the top of your lungs nobody's listening to you it had been an attack it'd been the first like that and how long if ever and people wanted blood let's go get it we wanted their pound of flesh let's go get it Canadians wanted their pound of flesh we all bought the narrative right that's what it was we all bought the narrative because back then they had the cultural narrative because they had mainstream media. We didn't have alternative media to the extent we do now. And they lost the cultural narrative when Trump came down the escalator in 2016 and called the mainstream media fake news. The moment he did that, it forever changed the landscape of information. And more importantly,

they've been scrambling since 2016 to get the cultural narrative back. And they've slowly eroded their own market share by the amount of propaganda and gaslighting that they've, pushed out, especially over the last four years, the amount of nonsense that's come out of the mainstream media that's just abject stupidity. I don't know if they're listening to AI or if it's just a stupid person that's a producer in the mainstream for Murdoch or whoever owns those media outlets, Soros or whatever. But they, it could be one of two things. But I tend to lean to a competence versus an organized structured attack because they've destroyed. not only credibility in the mainstream media,

they've destroyed credibility of politicians, the credibility of the federal agencies, especially the FBI. And that's all been done over the past four years at a breakneck pace. You would ask the question, are they doing it on purpose? You could make the case they are,

but I think a lot of what we've seen, especially with Vegas and with New Orleans, those are sloppy narratives that were put together and forced down our throat like we're supposed to believe it. And it's almost as if the playbook is the same, but the actors don't understand the audience they're playing to. Right. And around 9-11, they not only understood the audience.

They understood the message. They understood how it was going to be consumed. And they understood when the timing was going to work for them. And the other part of it that we've figured out over the past 10 years is that they're very dialed into numerology and astrology and they're dialed into the satanic calendar. and they use a lot of the satanic dates to plan their events, right? And I've been telling my audience for almost two years now. If you don't understand numerology and astrology,

you should probably spend some time trying to understand how it works because that's what our enemy uses, right? And this is the problem with conservatives and Christianity in and of itself, is that they look at something like that, and they've been told for generations, well, that's satanic and that'll lead you down a dark path. Well, I hate to break it to you, but if you want to beat the enemy that we're fighting,

you need to understand how the enemy, plans and operates and that's how they plan and operate i hate to break it to you but understanding does not mean believe it means understanding does that mean i don't understand communist you know i just i just i got given a book steve i hate to cut you off but i agree with you i got i got a book given to me um i wish i had it with me anyways it was just a chapter in it and uh shout out to terror for giving it to me because i i don't think she realized what it she gave it to me like three months ago two months ago and i i just kind of put it off put it off put it off she told me to read this story and the guy in the story is i want to get him on like i got to find a way um

zachary king he was a grand wizard and about as part of the satanic church awful awful stuff like we're talking dark dark stuff the chapter i even think has a warning it's in a catholic book has a warning like maybe if you're not maybe don't read this and he ends up if you believe it now i want to i want to preface it could it all be a lie okay fine it's a lie i don't know how to rewrite the last like four years that i've been living but i look at it and he's talking about being in rooms with the most powerful people at some of the meetings that we've all heard about and being the guy in there and speaking directly with satan and on and on and that's what he gets paid to do you're like either think that's that's real or you don't I don't really care on this side

knowing what I've been through I go well that makes sense and when you talk about well they believe in numerology and all this stuff this this this chapter in this book would would suggest exactly that and then some it goes into like adrenachrome and all the stuff that four years ago certainly this guy on this side of the conversation would have been like what what are you talking that's crazy now I'm like I just keep finding more and more things that are coming to me that are in probably the most mundane books that are not there to convince you of you know like this one's the catholicism you know and i i can listen folks i can understand that you're going to come in at me with a couple different things i'm

just saying when i read it i was like oh man like this is this is getting to a point where when you talk about numerology and you talk about understanding the the opposition i'm all for it i'm like We have to start looking at this in the spiritual context of like, they believe in the devil. They do. You can either think that's hogwash or not. It's not. But as soon as you go, they do, you can start to understand some of the things they're doing. And you can start to see it coming.

And then you go, oh, okay. Well, that's what's coming. At least that's what they believe in. And for sure, it doesn't mean go believe it because you're going to read something and be like, this is insane. This is literally insane. And then the other side of that that you come away with is then you start to see the real problem that we have to deal with as a society that we haven't dealt with yet. And that's the pedophilia and the child trafficking problem that is pervasive across the planet. And people don't realize how evil and sadistic and just awful that whole chain of events for a little kid is.

And I'm not talking about teenagers. Everybody thinks the child trafficking is teen. No, these are little kids. These people abuse little kids under the age of 10, down to the age of one. They sexually molest them. They rape them. They torture them. They dismember them and they kill them.

That you can't unsee that when you see it. Walk into a room full of body parts of little kids and tell me it doesn't affect you because it will. It affected me in ways I never thought possible. And it took a lot of years to unwind that just to be able to talk about what I saw. That's not even war stuff. That's not combat. That's stuff that happens right here in American soil. You know, people, Michael Yon is down on, he's back down the Daring Gap and he's reporting

on what's going on the Daring Gap. People don't realize that when they move a little kid from Brazil or Uruguay or Ecuador or Peru and they move them up to the Daring Gap, that kid is getting raped the whole way up by hundreds sometimes of men. And all of this is being, but only facilitated, but paid for by the American government in the UN. The IMO office that's in Panama in the old, what is it, I think it's Clark. That's not Clark. It's a Howard Army base and Howard Air Force base down in Panama.

The UN has moved in and moved in all these NGOs that are trafficking kids and trafficking humans into the U.S. to Europe and in Canada. That's a huge, huge problem, right? And that's the piece that we have to deal with later. But to get back to something you were talking about with the numerology piece, that most of the rest of the world outside of the U.S. understands numerology and astrology. They're not scared by it. It's not superstitious. In fact, a lot of cultures planned by numerology and astrology to whatever alignment of the planets. Right now, we're on Mars or Mercury or retrograde or whatever that is.

I know a numerologist. I'm good friends with her. And she has to chimp things down to the point where she uses very simple words and speaks very slowly because I don't get it. It's not in my wheelhouse, right? But I've been trying to understand it for like three years, just to understand how the enemy thinks. And until we get a good grasp of how the enemy operates and somebody can decipher what that calendar means and what the key satanic dates are and what they have to do, because it's not just the date. It's not just the alignment of the planets. There's a specific activity and sacrifice they have to do.

And it's really, you start digging into it. You're like, man, these people are truly evil. But they firmly believe everything they're doing is for the betterment of humanity. And they truly believe that God is evil and that Satan is really God and that, you know, it's flipped. And whether you believe that or not, it doesn't matter. That's what they believe. And trying to get your head around that if you're a Christian or a Catholic or if you're even you know, the Buddhist, you can't get your head around that.

Like, there's, how do you get your head around a religion that sacrifices human beings for the betterment of society and for your God? I can't get my head around that. But, you know, it is, it is what it is. And that's the enemy. So if you want to understand what the enemy's doing and why they're doing it, you have to understand how they operate. And that's how they operate. So, you know, we started going down that path through the Sean Ryan piece and through the, the, the, um, the piece with Jack Cruz, all these things are all interrelated. They're not, they're not disparate

and separate events. They're all interrelated. The enemy uses multiple lines of operation all the same time. So they could have used the Vegas, the Vegas bombing and the New Orleans bombing to discredit Sean Ryan and to discredit Sam, because Sam has been doing what? He's been preaching about accountability in the military. He's been preaching about anti-censorship. He's been talking about IGAs. And IGAs is, is the piece I haven't talked about yet. So we should talk about those now because those are very, very important and most people don't even know what they are. So an IGA is an intergovernmental agreement. When COVID first was rolled out in early 2020, even before 2020, in 2019, the CDC, NIH and NAID, NAIAD, whatever it is, National Institute of Infectious Disease or whatever they are,

They went around to every county in the U.S. and signed an agreement that basically handed over the sovereignty of the county to the CDC and the World Health Organization should there be a medical emergency. And it's very nonspecific language. And Sam, in conjunction with my team, helped get the word out when we saw those agreements show up here in Arizona in Cochee's County, in Maricopa County, and a few other counties. Only three counties in Arizona didn't sign those agreements with the CDC. And the way they did it is they came in and they flooded every county with with U.S., you know, big, big dollars, billions of dollars, if they signed these agreements and they implemented all of these different technical controls. They put in monitoring, you know, they called it contact monitor tracing. Really what it was is they were building a grid for control and they were using the CDC to do it. But most people don't even know those existed.

And in some states like Washington, I'm sure they signed. the agreement with the state health board because it's Washington, Oregon, and California, Idaho, well, Boise. And, you know, most of these coast, including New York, are all run by communists. So they all would have signed up for that immediately because they're all about implementing a social scoring system control. But that was the plan to use the IGAs to build the infrastructure during COVID to implement the social scoring system and to keep us locked down until 2025 to where they can mandate vaccines and vaccine compliance. And because of, you know, because of the Omnichron strain, it blew up their narrative and they couldn't sell it anymore. And now we're on the other end of the

spectrum. But is it really over? No, because those IGAs are still in effect until 2026. So people think that just because Trump wins, everything's going to change, everything's going to change and we're going to go back to normal. That's not true. The world changed forever when they signed those IGA's and when they started to put the technology in place. I mean, do you have grocery stores in Canada right now that have gates when you walk in the door that you have to go through an entry gate to be able to go buy groceries? I don't know about I want to say everyone. That's probably not true. But like, um, yes. Yeah.

You think that's for you think that's for shoplifting? They've had shoplifting for how many years and now all of a sudden is a problem where they have to put gates in. Get fuck out of here. That's all about social scoring. That's all about doing exactly what they're. doing in the UK. If you want to see what they want to do, go look at what they're doing in the UK. Literally, they're spending more time arresting people for social media posts of putting people in prison for social media posts than they are for anything else. And they've slowly but surely

been implementing all these controls so that you can't buy groceries, you can't move you, you can't drive and you can't work unless you sign up for their program. And if you sign up for one part of it, you sign up for all of it. And I don't know about you, but if they try that shit here, I'm going to be an insurgent. And I mean, I'm going to be completely fucking ungovernable to the point where I will be the head of the insurgency if they try and put social scoring in here. And that's exactly what they tried to do with these IGAs. And I'm not being facetious. I'm telling you, this is a direct violation of our big R rights. And people need to get the memo that this is not going away, this whole conversation about joining the U.S. and Canada. That's not just a flu. That's not a joke. It's

in Agenda 2030, which is also a part of the social scoring system, ESGR and all the other crap with the diversity equity. All of that's tied into the agenda 2030. And if you think it's going away because Trump's coming off, you're a fool. You're an absolute fool. That's what they want to do. And they're going to use a different mechanism to get us there. And we need to be questioning everything they're doing and holding them accountable now. And to the point where if they lift their head up and they say something wrong, they need to get hammered back into submission. Because like Trump's people, right? I was told several times back in mid-November, hey, your name's up for this. Your name's up for that. Your names up for this.

I knew I wasn't going to get a seat at the table. Why? Because I would be the first guy on the phone call with Trump going, why the fuck are we doing that? And why are you even considering that? Because he doesn't want to, he doesn't want people around him. They're going to tell them, say no to He wants people around and they're going to say, that's a great idea. Glad you thought it. We'll go make that happen. He's a typical billionaire, right? He wants everybody to do exactly what he wants.

Well, guess what? We're in the space now because of COVID and because of the malfeasance over the last four years, that all of us need to be ungovernable if they try to put in more controls. And to get to bring this back full circle to where we started with this quote, quote, attack. The whole point of the attack is not to destroy the American public. It's to do another Patriot Act. and to take away the rest of our rights to give them complete control and consolidate power.

That's what the agenda is. That's what I see. And they've used every mechanism they can do to try and get the cultural narrative back so they can sell it. And they can't sell it. So what did they do? Instead of bringing Biden back or Harris back and making things worse, they're bringing Trump back. So everybody jumps on the train and volunteers to sign up for the social scoring system and all the control measures. Does that mean they're not going to do an attack?

they'll probably do that too it's whatever mechanism will help them consolidate power and if that means they have to kill some civilians to do it great they'll do that that's how sadistic these people are and do i think trump's a part of it i don't know if he is or not but i don't like some of the things that are coming out of his mouth and elon's mouth and some of the things that's coming out of congress right now but you know and i could be wildly wrong about all this but i doubt it You know, I'm probably 70% right because I'm still alive. I think when you get to 80% is when you disappear, you have an unfortunate accent. So I'm probably about 70% right.

But you can see that there's a lot of things in front of us that are ambiguous and could go either way. And people need to be vigilant and be prepared for anything. I want to pull you back to Canada, U.S., becoming the 51st state. and how that isn't a joke. I would like you to, if you don't mind, to stick on that for a second or two because one of the things I think that has surprised me up here,

you know, like when he first said it, I thought it was a harmless joke, you know? Like, oh, that's, you know, poking fun and rubbing salt in the wound of Justin Trudeau's demise and pushing them further and further and further. The last one I saw at the press conference,

it just got shared with me before we hopped on, was basically a guy said, you know, you've talked about using military force on Greenland and would you do the same thing in Canada? And he says, no, I wouldn't use military force, but economic force. And I don't get the sense. I don't know. I could be wrong. I don't get the sense.

And it leads into what you're kind of talking about. I don't get the sense that he was joking. It wasn't like, oh, no, you know, he's just basically, wouldn't that be wonderful if we're all one thing? I think that would be a terrible idea because I'll I'll just say it this way. Canada has a culture that I think it represents the rest of the world in a lot of ways because Canadians are typically get away from 9-11, right? Because 9-11 was a massive psychological operation that was highly effective

and a lot of people died because of both innocence and military. But Canadians by and large are very, very peaceful and very accommodating. And it's you have, it's not a racist society. It's not. And you can make the case about the indigenous tribes, all that nonsense. But the reality is, is Canadians are not a war. They're not a warring nation. They're not a racist nation. And it's not a racist culture in any way, shape, or form. And I think that there's more value in preserving that culture and disconnecting from the crown and disconnecting from the UK and being your own country with your own your own constitution, your own rules, it's way more beneficial to the rest of the planet and the U.S.

as training partners, as economic partners, as, you know, allies than anything else. Joining Canada and the U.S. means that the culture's lost forever and that whatever the U.S. turns into. Because look, we're in the midst of a fourth turning. We're in the midst of some kind of a reset, whether that's revolution, or civil war. I don't know what that is, but we're dangerous and close to both, regardless of what people think. And I think it's more beneficial for Canada to remain sovereign, Canada to retain its culture or Canada to reset some of its liberal social policies and political policies, as well as some of the laws that have passed under Trudeau and get back to a place where

it's both economically a powerhouse and socially a powerhouse as well as politically. and diplomatically because, you know, way back in World War II, Canada distinguished itself on a number of different levels, not just in battle, but diplomatically, economically, et cetera. And when you mix the cultures together, then you become whatever culture you're mixing with, right? One of the things that the U.S. did for years that we don't do anymore, thanks to Obama and thanks to Bush, is we don't force people to integrate to society, learn the language, learn the culture, and adopt American ways, right? We don't do that anymore. And because of that, we have these small outcows of different cultures that are still operating as if they're back in their home country, but they're here and they're

not integrating. I don't see that in Canada. Maybe it is happening now that there's been mass migration, but that didn't used to be the place. And the other thing that I think is a good balance is that Canadians have a realistic view of the world. They don't look at the world and say everything is awesome, right? They look at the world and say, okay, we can accept these things. We won't accept these things. And you could cross the aisle. Used to be you could have a conversation with anybody in Canada, whether you agreed with their politics or not, and it wouldn't turn into a fist fight. Now you can't even cross the aisle here. And I don't know what it's like in Canada, because I've been there for a few years. But I don't know. I just think there's a lot of, you know,

one of my favorite places on the planet is Vancouver. I think it's a beautiful city. I think it's a beautiful area. I think the people are amazing. I think, you know, take away the politics and you have an amazing place. Why would I want to make that American? Because part of the, part of the allure of that, part of the, you know, the desire to go there is because it's not American. And it's different completely.

I mean, I went to Harrison Hot Springs a few years ago before COVID. And I was just shocked at how nice everybody was and how down to earth everyone. was and how people weren't wrapped up in stuff and status and power and BS. They were just living their life, talking about, you know, things that mattered like their family and living a normal life. It was refreshing to see. I don't know if that answers your question, but. Well, the thing that as you talk, I go, the Canada you remember, I don't think it's lost,

but certainly it's morphed, it's changed because, you know, I just literally had a guy on from Vancouver grew up in Vancouver still lives in Vancouver he's 28 and he remembers going downtown 10 years ago and maybe there's a drug addict on the corner but you kind of get the point felt safe whenever and then in the same sentence he goes on to talk about you know now you walk down there's there's 10 and a bunch of them are ODing and you know and you're just like holy crap so Vancouver is is becoming a city that is you know almost unrecognizable the stories that we heard of of the past You talk about Canada's sitting around a dinner table and discussing politics. You know, I think we can all agree, well, not all of us, obviously, but a healthy majority of us in Canada.

And I see that in polling that Trudeau is an idiot. And everybody wants Trudeau out. But when you bring up COVID, that's a different story. You bring up some of the things going on. You bring up Trump. That's a different story. Certainly the divide has been growing in Canada here over the last. I would say since Trudeau got elected,

I, you know, the damage he's done to our country is almost insane. And, and certainly when you talk about like kind of alcoves or these, these, that used to be when you came to the United States and you had to adopt

what an American was, I think that's what Canada used to be. And now, I don't know if I agree with that statement anymore, that you come to Canada and you have to, adopt what a Canadian is. I actually think that the government would prefer if you kept your way of life and we champion that we don't have a culture identity. That came out of Prime Minister Trudeau's mouth. And so it's really been the where he's taken us over his reign has been insane to watch.

And the fact that it would say where the globalist took him. Yes. Yes. Yes. him to go is why the culture has been has been pushed to the side. But I don't think the culture is gone. I think what you're definitely not. The effects and the downstream second or third order effects of a very effective information campaign to destroy the identity culture, right? But I don't think it's lost forever. I think that it brings us back to what we started talking about. And that's a source of truth. The public needs a source of truth that's not censored. That's not doctor. that's not proctored and it's not, it's not, what do you call it, curated. It's just a town square.

We don't have a town square that is a source of truth anymore because of all the censorship and the apparatus and the machine they put in place. That's why people believe so staunchly it's because of the effect of the information war that's been waged against the entire population on the planet for the past 10 years. And it goes back to 2008. I mean, the real war for humanity started back in 2002 and 2003 when we went into Iraq. Because people think that this cancel culture started in 2017, 2018. It started way back after 9-11.

That's when it really started. If you said anything about anti-American or anti-t troop or anti-military or pro-Iraq, you were canceled immediately without even a second thought. that hasn't changed. It's just the dress is different. At the same time they were doing that, they were telling everybody to feel, you know, you should, I feel a lot of remorse and shame because you're an American and because you're, you know, your history is, is filled with racist and with, you know, with murders, etc. You can go all the way back to the Spanish, you know, conquering Mexico and the Incas, et cetera, and you can see how, in fact, I just read the book,

I think it was called Gold, germs, gold and steel or something like that. Anyway, it's off the top of hand, I can't remember. But everybody reads it in school, you can see throughout history that that's happened. What's different now is that information is in your face all the time. And it's in your face faster than they were able to do it all the way when the printing press was created. Right. And there's no lag anymore.

So it's all information all the time. And what they've done is flood the system with garbage and flood the system with multiple sources of truth, which are not sources of truth, so that you build separation, you put everybody into buckets. Well, you're a lesbian. Well, you're gay. Well, you're straight. Well, you're a Christian. Well, you're a Catholic. Well, you're a Muslim. Well, you're an extremist. You see how the buckets are, and then you start pitting everybody against you. That's what they've done. That's why they've created these outcoughs of specific populations, like the Somalis up in Washington State and in Minnesota. They're still in Somali communities. And you know what? They're still doing things that

happen in Somalia and they still operate like they're in Somalia and that's by design to destroy the culture. I don't think the culture of America or Canada is lost. I think what's lost is a source of truth where people can see what's really going on and I think that's what we have to fight for is truth. And you were talking about the media earlier. Yeah, we have to do something about the media. We have to reverse Smithbunt and we have to reverse the ability for the intelligence agencies to not only coerce, but operate freely in all of our social media and get them out of our social media and let news agencies be news agencies and promote news agencies doing actual journalism and actual realistic investigations to bring back the fourth branch government and make it what

it should be, which is the de facto arm of investigation all the time to keep the system and balance. At the same time, we need a town square, a real town square where people can say and do whatever they want, and that can be the freedom of speech that everybody needs, but it also is the source of truth where the entire population can contribute and engage, real engagement happens where you're not engaging with a bod or an AI. I think the problem with all of our information space now, which brings us back to the Sean Ryan stuff and everything else, a lot of this stuff's being planned by AI. And a lot of this stuff is being pushed by bots and AI. And we're seeing the downstream effects of bad AI and bad bots, bad training that's leading to all these different narratives

being unraveled. I think that's a big portion of what we're seeing. I also think that we're seeing the downstream effects of the Western society and the Western monarchies and the whole system starting to fall apart. And that's that the byproduct is not only the moral fiber of the country, the cultural fiber and we're starting to see that too. Some of it's by design, but I think some of it is is happening organically because people are just fatigued with, you know, trying to fight to fight to preserve their culture. They're waiting for it to collapse. They're waiting for all these foreigners to self-select and leave and then they'll rebuild society. And at the same time we're doing that, we're going to have to deal with all the downstream effects of the vaccines.

So that brings a full circle if that means anything to you, but there's a lot of, lot of issues are I just don't want to see the culture of Canada that I remember and the culture of the U.S. that I remember, you know, die forever because I think there's value in both societies. And I think there's a, I think there's a bit of, I don't know, I hate the term. I'm trying to think of a better term. But like, maybe I'll just say there's a bit of an underground movement. And there has been since COVID for sure of a group, you know, and off and on. But the thing about it is is, it's not a. race like it's not like one day you go in you put in a good day's work and your work's done right like it's

you know it's it feels like this could be the rest of your life it just could be it took a long time to build can to become what it was and in a very short period of time it has been undermined and um and yet like the the culture can i i've seen over the course of you know this podcast life just amazing things and beautiful human beings a eclectic group of people, for sure, come together. And it's actually why, you know, part of the reason why I want people to come to the Cornerstone Forum is because that's what you find there. You find this community there. And this community at times need to go and put their feet up on the couch. And other times you can't keep up to them because they're a bullet train moving because they see something, they hear something, and they're going after it like a dog on the bone.

and that culture needs to run into each other more often. Like those people need to bump into each other and have that sense of community. Because one of the things that I think so many people felt, whether it was back in 9-11 or fast forward to COVID and probably some things in between there, was they felt like they were alone. They felt like nobody else thought like them.

They've been told by the speaking head, this information warfare that they're the problem. Nobody thinks like you do. You're the problem. Come on this side. And that bothered them to the core, bothered me to the core. And then you run into all these wonderful human beings. You're like, oh, oh, there is a team here.

There is a community here. We can build something with this. We can start to undo what has been done. I just at times, I wish, you know, not an easy button, Steve, but I wish there was just a faster way. You know, you wait for people to come save you. You wait for Donald Trump to get in because he's going to save us all. or in the Canadian sense, Pierre Poliyev, he's going to get in and he's going to save us all.

And that's just not true. People need to save, yeah, community needs to protect the community. Well, we need unity is what we need. We need people to stop going after the messengers, listen to the message, and then take it back to your community and organize and plan and start doing things as a community. That's what we need. Because, look, unity is the hill we're going to die on. If we don't unify as a society. And I'm not just talking Americans, you know, and Canadians.

I'm talking the whole planet. This is being done systematically across the planet. And this is being done to destroy every culture and turn every culture into basically drones for the elite. That's what this is all about. They want to reduce the population of 500 million because somewhere along the line, somebody said the world can't handle more than 500 million people. And they want to make it more manageable for them. And they want to release all these technologies that they supposedly have.

to extend people's lives, etc. I mean, you've heard Jared Kushner talk about it. You've heard Bill Gates talk about it. So obviously they've got technology that's hidden away from the public that's going to help them, but not everybody else. They want to dumb down the population. The best thing we can do is a society. And I mean everybody is put away your political differences.

Check your ego at the door and realize this is not about left and right. This is not about religion. This is about the haves and the have-nots. And we're the have-nots. We outnumber them 300 to 1. They don't have enough bodies to be able to round everybody up. And if people got the memo and figured that out and figured out that this fight is not about left or right or Trump, it's about a bunch of elites want to take us back to feudalism

and they want to control every aspect of your life. If they actually figured that out and realized that that's the agenda, all this other stuff would wash away. Political differences, religious differences, the ideology, fucking pronouns. You think anybody's going to give a shit about your pronouns if you're starving. They're not going to give two shits about what your pronouns are. I don't give a shit about it. And you think I'm going to care if I'm starving looking for my next meal because they control

how much food and how much protein and how many calories you get a day? That's where this is going. That's why all these political, all this nonsense about LGBTQ diversity, that's all all distractions, all to put people in their buckets to create conflict. And it's been highly effective. But if you show people what's really on the other side of the door, they're going to be like, nope, I'm not having any of that. And we've already got a taste for that.

When they started talking about taking the military and going over and fighting Russia, you know what happened? And the funniest one was instituting it a draft. They put that out that they're going to implement the draft here. And they've got so much blowback on social media, they didn't know what to do with it. And it literally was the American people saying, yeah, we're not fighting another war. We're we're fatigued with war. I don't know why you think we're going to go over there, but we're not, none of us are going to fight for you.

In fact, why don't you send your kids and then we'll tell you how they're doing? Because we're not going to go fight for you. And you heard anything about the draft since then? Nope. You heard anything about lockdowns? Nope. Because the American public said a year ago when they started that whole game again, nope, you lock us down. It's full on civil war. And that's what we need to keep doing. We as a society need to realize that all of these narratives that they're pushing on us is all garbage.

The LGBT, the whole lesbian, gay thing is garbage. It's a very small community. It's a very small, it's a very small, let's say special interest. And that's all about grooming kids. It's not about the community. I know lots, I have lots of friends that are gay. One of my very good friends is trans. And they, you know, she did the surgery years ago before it was a thing.

And literally, she sat across the table for me. I remember this distinctly because it was in 2014. I was in California. And she was a he at the time. And she said, I've never felt right. I've never felt like I've been a man. And I didn't know how to tell you and ask you for your support. I'm like, how can I support you?

I mean, it's your decisions, your body, right? I think most people feel that way. They don't care what you want to be. But they do care about going after children and lowering the age of consent. so that you can groom children and you can make you can castrate children because that's what that agenda is all about and if people see through that i guarantee you they'll see through the rest of it but the whole construct of it and again if you guys haven't figured this out i'm talking to your audience right now if you haven't figured this out all roads lead back to children all

roads lead back to harvesting children the people that we're talking about now these elites they are all addicted to children all of them and don't think that one of them is not compromised in any way, shape, or form. In fact, King Dumboears over in the UK was good friends with Jimmy Seville, one of the biggest pedophiles in UK history, and they brushed it under the rug. What do you think the odds are that King Dumbo ears is a pedophile too, or the rest of his family? You need to ask those questions because if it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, it smells like a duck, it's a duck.

And I'm telling you, if that guy was friends with Jimmy Seville, and Bill Gates was friends, and Bill Clinton was friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Guess what? They're pedophiles. So if you start looking at from that perspective, there's not a big leap there, and you'll start to see why all these political conversations are not important. It's all noise to keep you distracted away from that. And the reason why they want to censor you is so you don't see how bad that is.

That's why Clinton's talking about censorship. That's why Kerry's talking about censorship. That's why the UK's talking about. That's why Kier-Starmor is on TV trying to blame everything. on Elon Musk when the reality is he allowed that to happen through his policies and through his his actions while he was an MP and now he's trying to justify all roads lead back to children wake up sorry to get that public service now for that it's all good i uh i think i think that's um something to chew on for the audience i want to leave it there uh unity um because i was literally

just having this conversation in the last 24 hours that all the distractions pull us away and pit us against each other. And I think that's a really interesting, well, I think it's an interesting spot to leave it, Steve. Honestly, I do. Appreciate you hopping on and doing this. And I think, you know, more of us need to sit back and think on that for a bit. But either way, I've got a couple, I've got a couple ideas that I've got to throw by Steve after we're off, because I'm hoping that there's a couple virtual things that,

we can implement Steve into and I think that it'll be a lot of fun. Either way, appreciate you hopping on and doing this and blowing up the airwaves for an hour and 20 minutes. Thanks again, Steve, for hopping on. No worries, brother.