Shaun Newman Podcast - #785 - Scott Marsland

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Scott Marsland is a Family Nurse Practitioner since 2014, and Registered Nurse since 1997. He co-founded the Leading Edge Clinic with Dr. Pierre Kory, focusing on treating post-acute sequelae of COVID (PASC), vaccine injuries from COVID shots, and providing adjunctive cancer care. Scott has treated over 1300 patients related to COVID and currently manages more than 300 with PASC and vaccine injuries via telemedicine, serving patients across the U.S. and four continents. Cornerstone Forum ‘25 https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Contribute to the new SNP Studio E-transfer here: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: [e-mail] Text Grahame: [phone]

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I finally got to go ahead. So let's get on to the tail of the tape, shall we? He's a family nurse practitioner who is one of the founders of the leading edge clinic alongside Pierre Corrie. I'm talking about Scott Marsland. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Scott Marsland.

Sir, thanks for hopping on. Nice to be here with you again, Sean. Scott is, I don't know, is a partner at Leading Edge Clinic as just a facilitator? I don't know your actual title, Scott. Yeah, I'm the chief executive officer and practice partners with Dr. Pierre-F. Lori.

Now, me and you talk offline back at forth from time to time, and the thing that's come to, you know, like one of the things on this side things. I feel like at time, Scott, I just like, I'm in this world and all I see present to the world is problems. Well, like, we got a problem with this and we got a problem with that and this scandal's happening and that. And every once in a while, I would just be nice to give people maybe a solution or a little bit of hope or some ideas moving forward. And, you know, talking with Seth and what's been going on with his daughter McKenzie and I assume people will recall McKenzie Bloom and,

and going to play hockey and then being vaccine injured, that led me to talking to you. And it's kind of gone, not full circle, but that's how we started talking. And I was kind of curious, like, what is new? Because I feel like you guys are the leading edge of trying new things, seeing what's working. And I don't know, I'd be curious your thoughts on where you're at

and what things that you've got going on on your side. Yeah. Well, the first thing I'll tell you is that I am the least scared that I've been in the last four years. And that's a big deal. You know, and the reason I'm, I say the least scared because there's so many things in the world that are anxiety provoking. I won't say there's nothing I'm afraid of. But in our practice, we have been zeroing in on therapies that are the least expensive, the most easily accessible, the most efficient, with the fewest side effects to help people get better as quickly as possible. And, you know, if you came to see me today and you had symptoms of,

what's called long haul or post-accusa quality of COVID or vaccine injury. Honestly, if you came to me for just about any company. Because the world we live in is contaminated by spike protein, that's part of how I would be thinking about whatever your complaints are. And what I would do today is say, look, if there was only one thing for you to do, I would talk to you about. I would talk to you about chlorine dioxide. If you had a little bit more bandwidth, I'd say, well, we all have microplodium, so you should probably use sulladexide. And if you had more bandwidth, I'd say, let's use sulladexide, DMSO, and chlorine dioxide. And that may sound like a bunch of chemistry class gobbledygook, but I think I can break it down.

Please, please do. Let's start with, with, I already don't know. Is it chlorine dioxide? Let's start of chlorine dioxide. So chlorine dioxide is something that the U.S. government and probably other governments would happily throw me into prison for a long time for talking about. And it sounds like hyperbole, I don't think it is, to say that if everyday people in know about chlorine dioxide, that the medical system, as we know it, would be reduced to

emergency departments, obstetrics, and maybe some surgery. Because chlorine dioxide is a very inexpensive, easily accessible, extremely effective, pathogenic. And by the way, it's available on Canada. It's marketed, it has to be marketed as a water purifier with all kinds of legal qualifications by the manufacturer saying this is not being sold for human consumption it's only for water purification but there you can go to a website and i don't have a financial interest but i'll tell you www. all one wellness now.com that's all letters it's in british columbia and that's actually where i have gotten my chlorine dioxide from and so chlorine dioxide is something that's been around for hundreds of years. I think it was originally discovered by a scientist.

For the last 30 years, at least, evangelical Christians in distant parts of the world where the governments are so concerned with their own corrupt self-enrichment, they're not paying attention. Evangelical Christians have been healing millions of people for everything from AIDS to malaria, to fungal infections, parasitic infections, to MRSA. And most recently, one of the most colorful characters in the story of chlorine dioxide is Mark Brennan, who was a missionary pilot for decades. And at the beginning of the pandemic, Mark and his three sons were in Columbus. And they were treating people with chlorine dioxide for a whole range of illnesses.

And when they started treating people for COVID, the US government took and actually initiated extradition proceedings. And it's a really good colorful story. If you don't mind, I'd like to tell you that because it kind of adds some flavor to it. So the Colombian government imprisoned Mark for three, years while the U.S. was trying to extradite them. And do you know who most of the people are who are in prison in Colombia? They're the billionaire drug overlords that are generously supplying cocaine to the United States and probably Canada. And so, you know, if you were an ordinary

person and the Colombian government threw you into prison with all these drug overlords, it might be like in a corner like, ah, right, but you know what Mark Brennan did, was he basically set up his little infirmary and he started treating the inmates for everything from heart disease to diabetes to cancer to erectile dysfunction not kidding and you know the prison officials were like hey what are you doing you can't do that and the drug over it's like you leave this guy alone he's our friend and so they're like okay okay not going to touch you know and he wouldn't take their money and so uh my partner dr piercori and I got to spend two hours on the phone with Mark.

And we've had the privilege and the pleasure of being in the company of dozens of people across the world who are essentially experts in using chlorine to adopt. And have treated a whole host of illnesses with it. And very simply, chlorine dioxide is a combination of sodium chloride. which you can get readily from any chemical supplier and hydrochloric acid, 4%. So it's 25% sodium chloride and 4% hydrochloric acid and you mix together a little drop of one and the other and it makes what's called an activated drop and you put it in a glass of water and you drink it. Or you put it in a bath and you take bath.

And that little substance will kill all the tick-borne diseases. It'll kill MRSA. It'll kill Ebola. It'll kill anthrax. It'll definitely kill the spike protein, no problem. And so what that means is that whatever latest bio weapon, the evildoers, she used to pull off their lab shelf and zip out into the public, that if every household has their two bottles of chlorine dioxide, well, it's, you know, part A and part B, you mix them together, you don't need to be afraid. Not only do you not need to be afraid, but if you learn more about chlorine dioxide,

you start to understand, oh, well, people have treated a very range of illnesses with this. From the mundane, like acne, right? I saw a patient in my office last week, and there's actually some commercially available preparations by a company called Frontier Fundier, pharmaceuticals. Again, I don't have a financial interest, but they make a range of products that, like toothpaste, mouthwash, acne gel, that use chlorine dioxide. And so this young woman, like typical female teenager with raging hormones, she had acne, but she had other skin issues. And I gave her a bottle of a bottle. It's called dioxicier acne gel. She was skeptical. Can you imagine a skeptical 17-year-old?

But she took it home and her dad called me the next day. He said, by the way, that acne that she's been dealing with for three years, she did she treated it with one treatment and it was completely gone the next day. And I again, I know that sounds exaggerated, but these are the kinds of things that I'm seeing and right in front of me as patients take these on. to utilize these therapies now officially chlorine dioxide is not approved by the fdaa in fact i have to tell patients like i cannot officially recommend this to you as a treatment because it's not approved by the fda but if you'd like to learn about it there are these resources here's another website for you www mmsdgidance.com ms and ms and ms and ms and ms and ms and ms and ms and sam guidance And a friend of ours has put together that website. It's constantly evolving.

And that's about as down and dirty, straightforward, the instructions you can get about chlorine dioxide. You know, urinary tract infections often affect women at whatever ages, right? Younger women, because they're having a lot of sex. Middle-aged women because they're working in jobs and they're working, like nurses are the worst. They don't go to the bathroom for a whole 12-hour shift, right? And older women, because they may have issues with continents. And so they're wearing pads and it's keeping that environment wet and moist.

Chloride can treat a urinary tract infection almost overnight. If you draw a bath with water that's not city water, it should be spring water. water, well water, or city water that you let sit out for 48 hours so the chlorine gets out of it. But you could put 10, 20 drops of corny dioxide in a bath and hop in it. And almost overnight, your urinary tract infection will be gone. Or you could take it orally over a period of weeks. The point here being, you know, we, I'm sure that you're aware, Sean, like we've been headed into an era of antibiotic resistance. right and every now and then something will come across the radar in the media about we're running out of antibiotics

right we had these antibiotic resistant infections like mercia metacicillin resistant staphypacusoreus which are they're hard to control very hard to treat and in my life in my career i've seen very young people lose their lives to mercia but chlorine dioxide treats mercer so let me shut up per second and see if you have questions about what I'm saying. Well, the first thing I think about chlorine dioxide, and I'm like, this is probably just what the system has told me is I think it's a chemical, and I think it's a cleaning chemical, and I go, you want to use, or not you want to use,

you're using it as like a very, what's the word I'm looking for, like a very small dosage in water to clean with or to drink or both. Yeah, so your sense that it's a cleaning chemical is accurate because in nursing homes and daycare centers, they use it to clean surfaces. In sterile processing in hospitals, they use it to clean the scope. They popped up your butthole to do a colonoscopy. It's got all these nooks and crannies that they can't throw that into an autoclave at 400, 500 degrees. it'll damage it. So they use chlorine dioxide.

And then they do not worry that some of it is left and it will be transferred to the next patient because they know it's not toxic. It's used in agriculture. Like in the milking parlor, it's used to clean the equipment. It's even used on the cow's teats for mastitis, right? It's used in agriculture to clean some vegetables before they come to market. If you went into a Walmart to the camping section, there's a product called, I think it's called saffrax. It's a brand name. Those are chlorine dioxide tablets. So if you went camping

and you were you were up in the north woods and you thought, well, the moose and the bear are pooping in the water and I don't want to drink it out of the stream, you grab a gallon of water and you throw some saffrex in it and you give it an hour and then you can drink. So it's really a matter of degree, right? You know, the the difficult job that the propagandists that the government have here is that chlorine dioxide is everywhere already right now. They cannot possibly eradicate it because it is so essential. It's used in the United States, there are hundreds of water treatment plants across the United States, municipal treatment plants that use chlorine dioxide to treat the water

before it goes out in the water supply pipes to people's homes. And so chlorine dioxide is already here. It's already used. It's right in front of us. what the powers that be do not want us to know is that use whether we nebulize it, whether we apply it to our skin, whether we take a bath with it, whether we drink it, that within a certain range that you can eradicate a very wide range of diseases. And, you know, the detractors will say, well, there's never been any studies of it. And it's this catch-22, like with Ivermectin, right? We've got like 100 studies showing that Ivermectin is effective,

but there are some that never made it to markets this. We've never got published because it was being censored, right? There actually are studies of Kone Doxia. Even though the authorities will say there aren't, there actually are. You know, we've had to dig deep to find them. We've had to look at the ingredients of certain. the therapeutic agents say okay clonine dioxide was the act of ingredient but up until very recently no government on the planet uh would permit a study of chlorine dioxide you know this is

part of the tell right when when governments won't even let you do research on something right then your suspicion should go you should you should ask well we have we have we have hundreds of toxicology studies of thorium dioxide. We know that people can take 8,000 parts per million on a daily basis for three months and not only not have toxic side effect, but actually be better in many ways, neurologically, cardiovascularly, from a pulmonary perspective. And the doses that are commonly used in treating things like a pneumonia or diabetes or or even cancer, the doses are like 10 parts per million or 20 parts per million or 50 parts per million. They're like fractional compared to what was in toxicology studies. So you remember

when Donald Trump talked about injecting, well, he didn't actually talk about injecting bleach, but he was misquoted in the press. Do you remember that back to the point? Yes. And the press just like totally cooked him over, right? He didn't, had I I believe he had and Pierre is written about this in his subject I think that Donald Trump had a piece of the truth there he had some understanding he was also talking about putting light inside the body to cleanse it you know ultraviolet radiation of blood is something that was done commonly in American medicine a hundred years ago it was cheap

It was safe, it was effective, and like a lot of other things are cheap safe. And I hate to use those words these days, but it, homeopathy. I mean, these things are not profitable, right? So they have a way of being sidelines and forgot. So then it falls to countries like Bolivia. You know, I'm being sarcastic when I say this. What do Bolivians know? We're just a bunch of blankety blanks, right?

They know nothing, right? Except that in Bolivia, at the beginning of the pandemic, there were 200 soldiers on ventilators in a military hospital. 200. And these were previously healthy young men and women, right? And the Bolivian military permitted a colleague of ours. she's become a dear colleague Patricia, I can't pronounce her last name, sorry, the Gringo.

They permitted her to come in and give IV chlorine dioxide. And guess what happens? In three days, 300 people came off the ventilators and walked out of that hospital. True story. And not that long after that, the Bolivian legislature passed a law, making it legally permissible to use chlorine dioxide as a treatment and approved treatment for COVID. And, you know, part of the story there is that the Bolivian Department of Health, the National Department of Health, like their version of the FDA, they were squawking and crying saying,

oh, the legislature is doing a disservice to the people. They can't, they can't do this. They're not doing this based on science. They should have checked of us. And finally, they just shut the hell up, right? because they had they had physicians and academics and people coming out and be like, well, I'm not sure why the health department's squawking about this because these are all the patients that I'm treating and they're all getting better, right?

We're getting people off of ventilators. We're emptying the hospitals. And all you have to do is look at the public health data for Bolivia. And it tells the story, right? Whereas in the United States, we probably had more. We had a higher body count for capital than pretty much anything. else in the world, right? Belivia was at the other end of the spectrum. And part of the story is because they used chlorine dioxide. So with the chlorine dioxide, are you not suggesting?

I don't know. When you're talking about people going and doing their research on it, what does the research say? Because basically what I'm going on is, I get a cold. Are you saying chlorine dioxide? Or you say, oh, no, I'm talking about like, Because one of the things about Scott, folks, if you haven't, you've been on twice before. We've talked extensively about shedding and the spike protein and a bunch of different things that went on with that. And how it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated, unvaccinated, like you have to be concerned because we've been living now in this atmosphere of it floating around. So are you, when you go and do your research, are you like everybody should be taking a chlorine dioxide bath or everybody should start drinking it in their water? or where does this go?

This is what I got from the website in Canada. It's called WPS, water purifying solution. You see there's part A, which is 25% sodium chloride, part B, which is hydrochloric acid. And on it, it says danger. It's got a skull and crossbones. It says, keep out of reach of children. Use only in a well-ventilated area. Do not swallow or get on eye skin or clothing.

do not breathe fumes or ingested call poison control and drink three glasses of water if ingested so they're clearly covering their legal ass right they they are making no that company is making no claims that it should be used for medical purposes okay so then without me telling you what you should do medically gone to tell you what i'm going to do okay so one drop of part a and one drop of part And then you count for 60 seconds, or I'm just going to talk a little bit. What's happening already inside the glass is it's starting to turn yellow. And it turns like a light to dark yellow, then eventually it turns to a light brown. If I smell it, it smells like bleach.

It is not bleach, right? I mean, just for those that are not chemists here, right? Sodium chloride is not sodium hypochlorite. the hypo is the difference right so if you go to the supermarket and you pull some chlorox off the shelf and look at the label it says sodium hypochlorite this is sodium chloride those are two different chemical substances not in a million years would i drink even a fraction of chlorox or but that's not what this is so i don't know if you can i don't know if you can see a little bit of yellow there yeah i can see the little bit of yell yeah okay so

Here's what I'm going to do. Cheers. I grew up on Philadelphia City water, which tastes worse than this. Okay, so that what I just drank is 10 parts per million. Very small dose. Again, I said there was a three-month study where they had 200 volunteers taking 8,000 parts per million daily for three months, right? So we are 800 times lower in terms of what was used in toxicologist's size.

What's going to happen in my body is that will, those two things combining will produce chlorine dioxide gas and it'll last about an hour. And what is the chlorine dioxide gas going to do? Any spike protein that it encounters, it's going to destroy. Any microplots it encounters, it's going to break down. Any tick-borne diseases that I have because I live in central New York and I've had many take bites and I've got Borg Daphore and Borrelia and spirit cats float around, it's going to kill them. Right.

Any reactivated EBV in my body, it's going to destroy it. So I talked about microplodding before when I was on your show and I said 100% of us have micropodding. This is one of the most beautiful things. If you look at a microscopic image of a microcloth, which is amylate protein, fibran, it's just It's a tangled, gooey mess, right? And you apply chlorine dioxide to it, and then you look at it 12 minutes later, what you have is pristine, plump, healthy, looking, platelets, and red blood cells in no mess. Right?

So not only does chlorine dioxide kill the spike that's in your system. So we talked about people, we talked about 10% of people who got the shots who were ongoing spike producer, right? you check for spike anybody and then during the 25,000 club those people need to be doing something ongoing that's going to be breaking down spike what about shedding right you want to go to the christmas party you want to attend your mother's funeral you want to go to church you want to live your life right shedding is a real and active dynamic in the universe well guess what i i have met people since pierre and i started looking into this who say i never got covid my antibodies are negative i never stopped engaging in society for the last four years and what I used was this so so to me

this is this is a sword and shield it helps us recover from the injuries that we've already experienced and it also helps us going forward dealing with the environment that's contaminated with spike now oral versus topical right someone close to me had a urinary tract infection, a woman. And there's something, when you start learning about this, there's something called Protocol 1000, which has you take a drop in a glass of water every hour, eight hours a day for three weeks. That's kind of like an initial treatment of pouring dioxide. And she did that, and she actually got up to taking three drops every hour for eight hours a day in the last week. It was a pain in the butt. And,

Two weeks in, she had a urine culture and her urine, which previously looked awful, because she had a severe UTI, it was sterile. Without antibiotics, she sterilized her urine. And when I shared the story with the experts that we talked to, people have been using this for decades, they said she could have just taken a bath. I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, the skin acts like an effective filter to help the body take in chlorine dioxide, and it is exponentially faster and more effective to treat any kind of an infection to take it in as a bath. The only caveat there is, if you have municipal water like we do, you have to let the water sit for 48 hours so that the chlorine that's in it evaporates. right but if you have well water spring water you just you could literally go to walmart today get some saffrex tablets draw bath throw a couple tablets in which will give you like between

10 and 20 parts per million and relax right sure you have more questions it's not even questions i just find it very hopeful and you know like i don't know why on this side of things when things are hopeful it just kind of leaves me speechless Scott because in our world it doesn't seem like it seems like a lot of the it's a lot of the other side of things so I hear this and I go I don't I don't even think it's a question on chlorine dioxide it's more like how on earth did you stumble into this right because like I don't know if I hear anybody talking chlorine dogs yeah you hear the world now talking a lot about ivermectin and the powers that ivermectin has and what it can do you're talking about something

I don't know I just haven't heard anybody mentioned it to me and that doesn't mean nobody is talking about it but I would say generally nobody's talking about it

yeah well let me say a couple of things about that like how did I get into it I've known about chlorine dioxide for several years because I've had a patient here and there that used it the thing is that

there's a fellow out there he's a German benzene dioxide scientist, Andreas Copper. From my perspective, Andreas is a handsome, smart, narcissistic, profit-motivated individual who took chlorine dioxide and on balance, advance the human understanding of it, but ultimately made it way more complicated than it needs to be, to enrich himself in order to sell books with his handsome face on.

Right. And that is chlorine dioxide solution. And what I'll tell you is that the international experts on it say he first of all he's a cad. I'm sorry. And second of all, the chlorine dioxide solution is actually not as effective as simple chlorine dioxide. And additionally, you know, the when you mix these together and you get a chemical reaction that chemical reaction only lasts about in the color so if someone is using carbon dioxide to treat themselves for some pathology they will get more benefit from doing low doses on a narrowly basis than then doing from doing high dose once a day right in fact if if you could bear to do it and i i can't because it still smells a little bleachy, right? Like there are people who will mix up a bottle. It's a, you would use an

insulated bottles because you have to keep the temperature below 55 degrees so it doesn't evaporate. And they just sip it all day long. And I have patients who on their own, because I can't officially advise us, right, like giving them information, I pointed them in the direction. And there's lots of information out there about how it will be this. They've just been sipping chronic dioxide over the course of the day and basically I'm working my way out of a job because so many people are getting so much better so quickly that I get to move on to other interests right I absolutely should mention the connection to cancer right because you had Dr. Macasson earlier right there is a French oncologist named Dr. Laurent Schwartz who has been treating cancer with chlorine dioxide and

methylaine blue for many years. And Pierre and I have had the pleasure of being in this online research group consortium with them. And, you know, the way that Dr. Schwartz puts it, first of all, when you look at the conventional treatments for cancer that are so toxic, the chemotherapy and the radiation, the way that chemoom radiation kill cancer cells is through oxidation. The trouble is that chemo and radiation do not distinguish between healthy and cancer cells. So you get side effects, right? Your whole GI tract gets eradicated. You basically lose your appetite.

You lose your hair. Your skin can start to do weird things. Chlorine dioxide is an oxidizing agent, but it is marvelously discriminatory. chlorine dioxide encounters your cells and says, hey, do you have a bifosophyll lipid membrane? Do you have a negative charge on your surface? Are you living at a pH between 7.34 and 7.45? I got no issue with you. Moving on.

And then it'll go after cancer cells. So I personally don't have direct experience with patients who've had cancer that's been treated of chlorinoxide. but Lauren Ports has. And many people that we talk to, and when you start learning, you hear the tens of thousands of stories about chlorine dioxide, a story I've heard six times so far from six different people is about people with stage four metastatic pancreatic cancer,

which from my perspective is pretty much a desistence. I've never known anyone of stage four metastatic cancer that lived more than a year. And they're telling me, you know what? we had this patient who stayed from metastatic pancreatic cancer and we started giving them 20 dioxide baths and they just they just came back to life and then here's a picture of them to give their grandkids five years later so so what i'm telling you is based on based on studies we know that this treats malaria within 48 hours the international red cross does not want you to

know because you're going to stop giving them money right A million people a year die from malaria. And you could treat malaria with three doses of plenty of oxide in 48 hours. You get a completely negative test. I'm not talking out of my ear. Like there was a study of more than 500 people demonstrated this, right? But an international Red Cross does not want us to know that. There's an internal review board approved study in Bolivia right now treating tuberculosis patients.

tuberculosis is very difficult to treat its antibiotic resistance because you know the people who end up with tuberculosis will often not be complained with their antibiotics and they develop more resistant organisms guess what foreign dioxide will knock it out what is forgive me this is where I'm like I'm listening I'm fascinated I'm like I'm just like my brain goes this is probably a really dumb question but like hydroxychloroquine right in the middle of COVID the two things I have I heard a lot about on this side of things was ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine is hydroxychloroquine related to this at all or is that something completely different is something completely different um i my understanding is that hydroxychloroquine actually was developed um uh it was inspired by methylaine blue chemically like methyline blue and hydroxychloroquine are more um sisters or chemical cousins, right? And, you know, from from my perspective, I've, my wife built houses for a decade, and we have a, we have a saying that we pass back and forth sometimes, which is like there's nothing like the right tool for the right job. And, you know, it's like the nut under your

faucet behind the sink that, you know, it's just like, it's like, you know, it's just like, you. you're going up a pipe like that and they're in the dark it's just like this special tool and it's and it's got something at the top of the handle and you turn it and it makes that it just like that's that is like a killer job like it could take you an hour to do but with the right tool you do it in an hour right so from my perspective as a clinician i've got like 200 tools in my toolbox to deal with long-haul covid vaccine injury dementia cancer whatever right But I've got my taper tools, right? I've got a Phillips head and a claw head hammer and a tape measure.

Like from my perspective, cloying dioxide is, it's the claw hammer or the Phillips head's group. I mean, it is just so amazed balls. It's got so many applications. And here's the crazy thing, Sean. And this is why the government would gladly lock. up for talking about this, that, or lock me up anyway, that you could buy enough raw materials to make enough chlorine dioxide to treat your entire town for a year. For everything that is troubling them from Lyme disease to pneumonia, to toenial fungus, to STDs, you can use it on wounds.

you can see I mean this is problematic for the health care industrial complex right like there are all these physicians who've gone to school for decades and how are they going to make their living if you give the farmer something that not only can he clean his milk parlor and wash some veggies with it but if you get sick he can take it and the cow gets mastitis he can treat the cow like that's not good for the veterinarians either right Yeah, on this side, you know, it's one of the things I'm learning is there isn't like one approach to any one maybe disease or ailment, right? Because like, I don't know if this is the right analogy. You're using like building a house or building things as kind of like the analogy.

And, you know, well, okay, you're going to put things together. You're going to put pieces of wood together. You can use nails or you could use a screw or you can use glue. you can use all these different things that are doing the same thing roughly and have you're just using different applications or different tools you know in in there and when it comes to this like one of the things that is i don't know i don't know why it continues to surprise me it's just like this thing that i thought was a cleaning agent if you bring it down to the lowest possible um percentage in in water like you just showed it's still

there all the triggers that are going to say don't do this are all still there you're you're literally going it's still kind of smells yeah but then if you put it in your body it's going to take care of a lot of the things that a lot of people are worried about yeah i guess i guess what i wonder is like do you notice anything physically like over the course of uh taking a glass of this like while you're sitting here or over the course you using it for a month have you noticed anything scott that other than just like hey if you put your blood under a um a telescope you could or whatever they call microscope not telescope yeah um you know this shows my it doesn't this show folks that i have no idea what i'm talking about no no actually notice anything this is this is a hat trick

because what you're um reminding me to do which is what should always happen in any discussion of the therapeutic is risks versus benefits and potential adverse effects right um uh the the term to look up and understand is a hirks reaction ETDRs, right? And so when a person has an infection, let's say, let's say that you have Lyme disease, which could be from one or more tick-borne pathogens, right? And you start to take chlorine dioxide. What's going to happen is you're going to kill those pathogens, and those pathogens contain toxins. And as those pathogens die off and release those toxins for a limited period of time, you can feel crappy. And so part of the, this is part of where we need enough political coverage.

So A, so that physicians and nurse practitioners and PDAs and nurses can talk about this openly without being afraid of being thrown in prison. And B, that they can guide people, right? There's a lot of people, even if they hear what I'm saying, even if they read about it, they'll still be too scared to try it because they're like, well, you know, I can't talk to my doctor about it. What if it goes sideways? And they're right to think that. Like, they deserve to have informed medical care as they build their own confidence about how you use something. Just a footnote, RFK knows about chlorine dioxide, right?

Like, Senator Johnson in the United States who helped us advance the agenda on ibupmectin, he knows about chlorine dioxide. Like the next year has going to be super interesting as things were Barboten previously began to get pulled into the public dialogue. But this close friend of mine that used the COIN oxide to treat her UTI, when she first started taking it, she had stomach upset or appetite decreased. And she actually developed diarrhea. And she had diarrhea for about a week.

And that was at one drop, eight ounces of water every hour for eight hours. And at the end of a week, her stool started to firm up, become normal. And her stomach started to settle. And she started to feel normal again. And then she started to advance it to two drops every hour, got a little nauseous, stayed there, tried to go to three, couldn't do it because it just really up to her stomach, went back to two. And then in week three, she went up to three drops every hour because that's, if you can, that's what is recommended. And she did fine. So part of what was going on in the

background was she was killing off the E. Poli that was where it wasn't supposed to be. It was outside of the GI tract. Part of what she was killing off was spike because she's vaccinated in. Right. And then what else? happened one she said to me on day two or three she's like you know what I feel different I feel like I can multitask in a way that I haven't been able to for years I don't feel overwhelmed by things the way that now that I am not feeling that way I can notice wow like like I've got a real life full day I've got all these things I need to accomplish I've got a timeline and I I'm not actually

anxious about it And she said, I just feel, I just feel calmer. It's hard to put it into words, right? So that's, that's her. Other patients that have gone through using this have experienced resolution of a range of symptoms from head to toe. you know, decreased brain fog, decreased and eliminated migraines, normalized bowel movements, decreased neuropathy, decreased pain, decreased shortness of breath, decreased tinnitus.

I mean, we're dealing under really complex patients that have long-haul of vaccine. And probably most important of all is improved energy level, right? And that's super interesting because when we talk to Laurent Schwartz, the French oncologist, he thinks of chlorine dioxide as an electron bone. When your mitochondria are not working properly, it's a dysregulation of electrons, right? It's a deficiency of ATP, the unit of energy that our body uses. And some therapies that help with that donate electrons, right? So crony dioxide is donate in electrons.

I'm trying to give a couple different angles from which people can understand why the therapy does what it does. It's an oxidizer. It donates electrons. It kills pathogens, right? But it doesn't arm healthy cells. do you uh suggest well i don't know i can once again i'm like doing what word am i looking for her what would i do yeah like i mean anyone who's sitting here listening to this knowing especially in can

then i just looked it up right like all one wellness it's right on amazon the thing you can just literally order it it's 40 bucks isn't that wild the canadian company offering solutions um like uh like in my brain i'm like you know is this something everybody should contemplate or you're like, no, if you've been vaccinated or if you've been vaccinated or if you've been vaccinated or if you've got long COVID or if you've got any of these things, if you're dealing with something, that's when you should start to look into this or is it something, you know, once again, I go back to our early conversations. I go, we're all living in this world. Like, so is that mean you should be drinking, you know? And then my next thought is, okay,

if everyone should contemplate it, let's say you go and buy it. Should you be doing the hours one drop every for eight hours a day or is it like oh if you if you could do a glass in the morning and a glass at night you're off to the races yes um if so here's the thing um is there is there a household that doesn't have band-aids i mean is there a household that doesn't have some kind of pain reliever like aspen or Tylenol or ibupon um i mean they're there i'm sure there are some because some people are so destitute that they don't even have may-nays in the fridge. There's nothing in the fridge, right? But like first world Americans and Canadians, right? I mean, I know that's a that that's not a politically correct term, but I'm just going to use it anyway.

You know, we are an industrialized nations. We have, we live like, we live better than the royalty of several hundred years. You've got indoor plumbing. We've got closets full of clothes. Most of us have adequate food. There's no reason why you shouldn't have something at your fingertips, which if you get a dental infection, you can take without going to the dentist and taking antibiotics. If you have a toenail fungus, you can eradicate it. If you get bit by a tick, you know what to do to deal with it. If you develop a cold, if you get a sniffle, right?

If your teenager has acne, right? If you're living in a city, Scott. If you're alive. If you're sitting in a city and you have treated water, can you just throw this in with that and drink it? Or you're like, no, you want to go buy specific things. Right. So we live in a city and we have municipal water.

And it's not that it will harm you, it's that it won't help you if you mix it with chlorinated water. Right. So either buy some distilled or well water or spring water from the supermarket or what I do because I'm more frugal is like I've got a big 10 gallon stock pot and I fill it up with water and have my wife carry it to a corner. And then when I have time, it's a pain in her butt more than mine. like i'm like can we get this on the stove warm it up then i take it to the tub and i put it in the tub and then uh splish splash i was taking a bath you know i got a cup i'm pouring it over myself people that are living out in rural areas that are on well water it's really easy you just draw a bath you can mix up 10 drops and up in a glass you give it a minute to turn yellow you put it in water

you get in the bath and you're off and running and you're much that hurts reaction i was talking about you're much less likely to have a heart's reaction if you use a bat, right? Because you're the intestinal tract manages a lot of toxins for us. And when you drink the cornynd dioxide at a higher dose, you're liberating those toxins and then you may feel like you got the worst flu ever, right? So I have seen two different ends of the spectrum, right? I have one patient who she made up a glass, she drank a quarter bit the next day she drank half the next day she drank three quarters next day

day she drank a whole glass and for a month she drank a whole glass and what happened was the migraines that she had for years went away and the the malaise that she would have when her vaccinated son came home to college went away and her brain fog improved and her energy level improved and she started exercising again because from doing one drop in one glass every day for a month right at the other end of the spectrum is is my friend and colleague tom and and tom is clearly he's like a mountain climber right like tom was like well this stuff isn't going to kill me and i just want to get this over with as fast as possible so what did tom do tom started taking 14 activated drops so an activated drop is one and one it's an activated drop 14 activated drops and a glass of water every

are four hours a day for a week and he pooped his brains out and he had a terrible headache and he felt like he like he had a fever and he felt like he had the worst flu ever right for a week and then at the end of a week he started getting better and when i talked to him which was three weeks after he did that stunt he was like i just came back from a five mile five mile run like my brain my body i feel better than i felt in four years it's just like i of that lime i had in in 2019 they cleared that out despite your pointing out what what you're pointing out to me is you probably don't know how good you could feel if you just tested it out is what you're saying because you probably you probably just didn't like oh yeah I feel pretty good right now yeah

frog you actually have no idea because you haven't cleaned out the toxins and everything else it's it's perpetual frog in the slow pot of water right i mean um we we listen 90 percent of the population has uh ebb It should be latent, right? Meaning Epstein-Barr virus, 90% of the population has it. It's supposed to behave itself and stay quiet, right? But the spike protein has reactivated it in many people. And then the EBV crosses the blood brain barrier, and it makes amyloid proteins.

So it's basically accelerating cognitive diseases, neurologic diseases, dementia. Right. I mean, that's just one among many things that are kind of in the best. background kind of monsters waiting to be awoken right and the thing not only do I feel less scared than I have in the last years I feel more hopeful than I have in last four years because it is really a beautiful thing to come to work and and starts talking to people and seeing people and they're getting better and they're not breaking their bank to do it and it's something that they have

control of it What a wild idea. People are coming in and they're getting better. It's. Now, we got a few extra minutes here. Do you want to talk about the other two briefly? Because you said, how much bandwidth do you got? I'm like, well, it's taking me almost an hour to get around the first one.

I'm like, okay. What are the other two silver bullets you have? So DMSO is the next thing. A Midwestern doctor. who writes a substack called The Forgotten Side of Medicine has written extensively about it. He's put more than a thousand hours of his time in. So if you do read him and you benefit from it, please make even a dollar donation to him because the guy has worked his butt off to bring that into the public light.

But DMSO is, you know, according to people that don't want you to use it, that want to be scared of, they'll say, oh, it's a toxic byproduct of paper making. From my perspective, DMSO is a natural product from trees, right? So the thing that keeps trees are able to survive negative 40 degree winters, and the sap continue to run is DMSO, right? It's a solvent, right? And it's a solvent that human beings have been aware of for at least 5,000 years. Because there was a mummified body found frozen in the ice and the Italian Alps.

And when scientists examined the contents of the stomach of that frozen body, they found buttercups. And I love telling this story because my wife will often say, suck it up buttercup to me because I'm a delicate flower. And so you can't typically just eat buttercups without them upset in your own. stomach. So 5,000 years ago, human beings figured out that, hey, if you prepare buttercups in a certain way and ingest them, it will prevent frostbite. I can't imagine there might be a dozen Canadians that might be interested in that piece of information, right? If you have DMSO in your system, it enhances circulation in a way that it prevents frostbite. Hell, if someone has frostbite and you take their frost and finger, which the docs want to amput in

you dip it into a solution of DMSO, there's a good chance that you may actually save the finger. So DMSO is actually an FDA approved drug. There's a single FDA approved use for it. It is instilled in the bladder through a urethra for interstitial cystitis, which is basically inflammation of bladder to make you feel like you have a UTI. But back in the 60s and 70s, I think I even had a heart. have a book here it like I just happen to have this book by Stanley Jacobs in all the reflection DMSO in trauma and disease Stanley Jacobs and Dr. Torrey um Jacobs was Jacob was no Jacob with no s was no dummy he was the chief surgical resident

at Harvard when he was in school just for what that's worth it's kind of like being this the star quarterback at the Super Bowl. Like all the other medical students in Harvard, like wanted to dance with him, right? He was the man when he was at school. And he ended up in the Pacific Northwest doing a lot with DMSO. Towards the end of his career, he was preferentially using oral DMSO. And what does DMSO do that I'm talking about? Well, in the context of long-haul and vaccine injury. DMSO helps break down microcloths in a way that doesn't increase bleeding. And it breaks down amyloid proteins. So guess what? If grandma's got dementia and you want to get her, you want to break her out of the nursing home, start visiting her every day and sneak her some

coffee or tea with DMSO. And guess what? Well, maybe you want her to say a nursing home so she doesn't probably but you know if you have a degenerative neurologic disease Parkinson MS and and you want to help repair your nervous system the MSO like I'll show you in his book this the book is this thick okay that much of the book is about neurologic disease right and this the really important thing about DMS health um okay so here's a protein and here's a folded protein okay that's that kind of looks neat here's a misfolded errant protein and here's a a folded errant protein right this versus this right this is part of

what's going on when a person has lug garrates or ms or parkinson's or dementia this is what the spike protein from covid and from shedding from the shots has perpetrated not just in her brain, but like throughout her body, this, right? Guess what DMSO does? DMSO comes along kind of like a parent whose five-year-old is trying to fold the laundry. Oh, sweetie, thanks for trying to fold the laundry, but let me show you how to it. We're going to unfold it first. There we go.

And then we're going to put it on the front. We're going to fold the sleeve in here and the sleeve in here and fold it up. And there we go. And that's how you pull the shirt, right? DMSO takes misfolded proteins and prexum. So let me tell you a story about this. Pierre, my partner, has a patient whose son, has Down syndrome. And three years old, not walking, not talking, very unhappy little boy, right?

I never had kids, but I'll tell you, I know that three-year-olds are supposed to walk and talk. They should be getting into trouble, right? She started giving him oral MSO, and one week later, the kid is walking and talking and talking. through store it okay so so how do you use dmso the the the there are formulations that you can get on amazon right there's something called the dmso store um as far as i know there's plenty of dmso to get in canada because you got a lot of trees it's it's funny it's funny you bring up dmso because my brother is using it for what um Forgive me, Dustin, I'm going to butcher this.

But Dust, when he was back at roughly 18, he had colitis and through a whole bunch of different things. He had a blood clot in one of his legs. And I'm paraphrasing his one leg to foot has never kind of fully healed from that experience, I guess. And so he started putting DMSO, as I understand it, in a solution on his foot to see if it would help. And I, you know, from all extensive purposes, he's been very excited because he's like over the course of a week, 10 days, things are going on with this foot that he's like, I haven't, I haven't had anything like, you know, and that's why when you say DMSO, I'm like, oh, that's funny because that's the one Dustin has been singing its praises. Yeah. So I actually have, I, I just, I keep these things at my desk so I can talk to patients about them. I don't have any stock in this, but. DMSO store, right? So this is a...

Dumb question, Scott. Coming from a guy who does a podcast, why don't you and Pierre have a store that people could go and support you? You know, the reason we don't have a store is because we want people to trust us. And it feels... It mostly feels wrong

to recommend treatments that we would probably from now that said like me we are working on an agreement with zero spike the nonprofit in Italy to bring to market it's we're actually doing it literally today it's starting a test that people provide a urine sample and it measures spike breakdown so it can actually give a measure of you know a spike in person urine and we have a financial interest in that right but that is the first time since we opened our practice in February of 2022 that we have made any decision to have a financial interest in something because it's there's so for good reason we've all been

disabused of our blind faith in physicians and in medicine in the last few years like a lot of people had figured that out already but some of us were we're still naive and so had some faith. You know, at this point I would say, um, the majority of the medical establishment is one way or another being financially rewarded by the treatments that they recommend. And so Pierre and I want people to trust us. And so we're, I admire that. That's, um, I completely understand what you mean. You start pushing different products. Then it, it might even eliminate going after different products that could out, you know, outdive. the products you have and you sell right like i i can see the incentives there what was the third

one you mentioned you there was three you you had sulide so let me let me add one less thing about dmso then i sure talk about the next side um dmso can be used topfully meaning as a cream or a gel or a liquid on your skin and it can be taken orally you don't want to ingest the gel or the cream if you take it orally, the most that you could take is one and a half teaspoons of 99.9% twice a day. And most people will mix it in something to mask the flavor. There was a toxicology study done on DMSO in 1967. It was definitive. It hasn't been repeated because it hasn't needed to be done.

Kind of like chlorine dioxide. Basically, everyone that took this stuff orally at crazy high doses for months was actually better off at the end of the study than they would be. So that's DMS. Is there any one question on these two, the chlorine dioxide and then the DMSO? If a guy buys it, is there a shelf life on these things or did they last a very long time? They last a very long time. I don't think there's an expiration D.

I mean, in my office that I share with traditional Chinese medicine, a close colleague of 20 years, he has a bottle of DMSO that he bought literally in 1980. Fair enough. Carry on. Yeah. That's good. That's good to know. Your third thing that's going to probably break my bandwidth.

Yeah. So Pseudekside, I call it STX. It's an anticoagulant medication that's been around since 1972 in Europe. And up until recently, up until this moment, right? You can't get it in the U.S. because it's not FDA approved. We are actually very close in working with a Canadian pharmacy to import it. The way we've been able to get it is Good Samaritans have literally gone on vacation to Italy and come back with it,

or we've ordered it online from Russia, because it's all made in Italy. It's just it has a different language on the label. But Sulodexide is, it's, it's, for, you. for the medical people in the crowd. It's a low molecular weight heparin with good absorption in the gut. And it is safer than aspirin. So this is part of why it is so yet another thing

that's a threat to the pharmaceutical industry, right? Because A, it's cheap. It's literally like 37 and a half euros for a month's worth. B, the risk of bleeding and bruising with this is less than aspirin. C, it does many more, more things than the available antiquagulants like predaxo or eloquists or the anti-platelets like clavoc. So it's anti-platelet.

It's antithromotic. It's fibrinolytic. It's antithereosclerotic. And it helps share the lining of the blood vessels, the endothelium and the glycopalids. It's kind of an amaze balls therapy. And we have had several hundred patients use it. And I would say out of 200 people, I think there have been two or three that just couldn't quite tolerate.

There's always going to be some people that a medication doesn't do. Dumb question for you. Because I'm like, we spent so much time on the chlorine dioxide. Why do you recommend all three? Or you like, listen, if you can get on the, like, I guess, because it feel like when you're talking chlorine dioxide, I'm like, man, this sounds like it does a ton. But then the DMSO, I'm like, okay. Well, that helps with blood clots and it helps with some other things.

And it sounds like it's just another super, super cheap effective treatment. And then you add on this one. And I'm like, okay, wait a second. Are you suggesting all three? So, right. So from my perspective, as a clinician, these are the three musketeers. And if someone came to me and they were severely vaccine injured or had severe long haul or some other complex medical condition in which I thought spike protein, it might be

plotting with playing a role, I would be leaning on all three. The reason the standout about sullade nextide is, I'll compare it to a plumbing problem, right? If you, so we have, we live in a house that's built in 1956 and it's got cast iron pipes leading out to the sewer. And the plumbers have told us, hey, you know what, you need to, you need to excavate that pipe and replace it with people. It's like a $4,000 a $4,000 job. Otherwise, it's going to keep clogging up because the pipe is corroding on the inside, right? What do I do instead? I snake the drain every month.

I spend 10 minutes and I snake the drain because I don't want to spend $4,000, and I don't want a basement with a bunch of workmen and concrete saws and dust and mass for a week, right? When you have injury to the blood vessels, which we have because of the spike protein, if you have structural damage, which many of us do, it's kind of like a garden hose that got kinked, and it keeps wanting to bend in that kinks. So you're like pulling out the garden hose or the garden,

and then the water stops, and it's because it got bent at that spot. In order to fix that spot, you need to do something that actually repairs the structural damage. And sule dioxide is something, that's one of its talents. it actually helps repair the glyco calyx, which is the architecture around blood vessel. Now DMSO is especially focused on and useful for protein misfolding.

So when we're getting into the need for genetic repair, because this bioweapon modified our genetics, right, and a lot of misfolded proteins are being made, we want that. and it breaks down scar tissue and it breaks down overbuilt collagen and it decreases inflammation and it helps in pain like that's that's a pretty strong suit right what neither of those do neither pseudoxide and neither dmso neither of them has the germicidal capacity of celadexite like like pseudoxide just comes in and starts kicking ass and taking no names like you know know, MRSA, spike protein, EBV, tick-borne diseases, gone. There's going to be people like my brother who can listen to everything you just said and go, okay, and go online, boop, boop, boop, bo, bo.

Do a couple more deep dives and just start doing it immediately. It's also going to be the other side of that. Just listen is like, holy crap, Ola. This sounds amazing, but I'm like, I don't even know where to begin. And I go, Scott, how do people track you guys down if they want to come work with Scott or Pierre or that group, that team? So Pierre has a sub-stack called Medical Musings. I have a subject called Lightning Bug. I don't want to say Fire Flight, but it's Lightning Bug.

As far as DMSO, there's a subset called the forgotten side of medicine. You know, for free, you can get a lot of information from all of those. If you want individualized medical advice and medical care, you can look up the leading edge clinic. It's www. Dr.Piore.com. We provide adjunctive cancer care. We could become part of a five-year study in which we're doing that using repurposed therapies, supplements, and drugs.

But, you know, I mean, I welcome new patients. We love new patients and not everyone can afford that. And I think that if you avail yourselves of all the online information and you go low and slow right there's there the the greatest safety uh is going low and slow and listening to your body and chlorine dioxide in particular you know one things when i talk to patients i say okay i can't officially recommend this but we can talk at length about it and i can tell you what i've seen what i say is that i do not believe that there is any human being that cannot use this.

In fact, like I have a friend, a close friend Betsy, who she did a drop in a glass of water and she did a quarter glass and, you know, it gave her a severe migraine. And I said, look, just take a sip. Just do a sip for a week and then work your way up to two sips a week, right? Because everyone's got their own particular situation and you'll get there, right? For many of us, it took four years for us to get as sick as we are. And so you should give yourself time to heal. And I do not recommend that people do what my friend Tom did,

which is basically jumping off a 100-foot diving board into a pool that big. You know, he started taking 14 drops an hour every hour for four hours, and he was in the bed pooping his brains out for him. I don't think that's the way to go. No, I appreciate you hopping on and giving us some serious things to think about, like super cool, honestly. And I think, you know, I just, to me, people are on a spectrum. Some people have the money and want the expertise and want somebody to be like, nope, this is exactly what you need to do. And they want to be, in lack of a better term, they want their handheld as they walk through it.

It's like having that expert there to be like, this is okay. okay with this and then when they start to have symptoms of XYZ it's like well actually no that's pretty standard I can understand that and then there's the other side which is more my brother who's just like he listens to you and he goes oh that's interesting and then he's going to go deep dive and he's going to read 17 things and then he's going to buy it all and he's just going to start doing it and I want anyone under the sun wherever they they fit in to feel like there's an option for them and I appreciate you know you're coming on and I you know I can't speak highly enough for what you've done on this side of talking about these things and coming on the show,

Scott, it's been really interesting. And, you know, I look forward to seeing what comes of all this and where you go. And at some point, I assume you'll be back on. Either way, thanks for hopping on today and doing this and filling my head with another bunch of things that I've got to go sit and chew on. Always appreciate having you on, Scott. Great. It was good to be with you, Sean.