Shaun Newman Podcast - #787 - Dr. William Makis

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Dr. William Makis, MD, is a Canadian physician with expertise in nuclear medicine, radiology, and oncology. He formerly worked as a nuclear medicine radiologist at the Cross Cancer Institute in Edmont...on, Alberta, contributing to one of North America's largest clinics for Targeted Radionuclide Therapy for cancer. Dr. Makis has conducted over 10,000 cancer diagnoses using sophisticated tools like PET/CT. Additionally, he has published more than 100 peer-reviewed articles in international medical journals, with a focus on nuclear medicine, PET/CT imaging, and targeted radionuclide therapy. We discuss all things cancer and treatments. Cornerstone Forum ‘25 https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/ Contribute to the new SNP Studio E-transfer here: shaunnewmanpodcast@gmail.com Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500 Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcast Silver Gold Bull Links: Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/ Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.com Text Grahame: (587) 441-9100

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Starting point is 00:06:29 So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Dr. William Macchus. You're back again. You know, it's only been roughly a week. And I don't know if you got any comments from that thing. But the old textine had some fun the day at release.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So that was interesting. But welcome back, William. Thanks for coming back on. Thanks again for having me. You know, one of the things that I think a lot of people wanted to know about, I got a ton of text about it was, you know, like, it's basically been a talk, like, I've been waiting for Mel Gibson to go on Joe Rogan for a long time. And then he went on and, of course, then he started talking about, it was just a short part of it. But he talked about, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:22 three of his friends having stage four cancer and them all not having cancer anymore. And then, you know, Joe asked him, you know, what was he? What were they taken? He goes, oh, you know, Joe, like the stuff. And I chuckled at that because I'm like, you know, I probably get, I don't know, a text a week, roughly, of people thinking I'm you or wanting to get to you. And so I just keep staring everybody through. And I think a lot of people were hoping last time when you came on, you were going to talk about some of that. So at the end, of course, we said, well, why don't we just do one more? And we'll talk all about cancer.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So it's your show, William, you know, like when it comes to this topic, fire away. Like, where do you want to start when it comes to, I mean, the explosion of cancer? And, I mean, you're the one talked about last show about having a thousand, roughly treating a thousand people. I assume you're seeing lots of different weird things and what's been working. And let's just start there. Yeah, I mean, we can go right into what's happening with cancer, right? What's been happening with cancer in the last few years? There's an explosion of cancer.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I think everyone sees that. even, you know, the mainstream media is starting to admit that young people are coming down with really bizarre cancers, extremely aggressive cancers, and it's happening in younger and younger people. Now, I'm one of the few doctors in Canada who can actually talk about this. And again, it's thanks to Alberta Health Services and thanks to the college who have basically taken everything from me, which has allowed me to speak, you know, completely freely on the subject. because other doctors, they're hanging their license over their heads. They're saying, hey, you know, you talk about anything like this. We're going to finish your career. So it's a taboo subject, this subject of turbo cancer, right? And these extremely aggressive cancers that are happening to young people.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And why is it happening? And I went back because I've got to, I've actually got a show with Steve Kirsch today on turbo cancer later today. And I'll be on with Professor Angles Deglisch from the UK and an oncologist from the UK, who's seeing the same thing, seeing extremely aggressive cancers and people, especially people who've gotten COVID vaccines. So we're going to have an entire show on that this afternoon, which I think is really exciting. I'm excited for that too. So, you know, the first time I talked about cancer arising in people who took the COVID-19 vaccines or took a booster shot, I went back to see,
Starting point is 00:09:55 well, when did I notice this? When did I start, you know, realizing there's something here? It was in the summer of 2022. So I've been on talking about this, trying to let people know that this is going on for two and a half years now. Now, of course, you know, I'm being ignored by mainstream medicine, mainstream media. Of course, this topic is being completely ignored. There's an entire Wikipedia section called Turbo Cancer. that's dedicated to calling it conspiracy theory and something made up by anti-vaxxers and so on, right?
Starting point is 00:10:31 But I noticed this back in the summer of 2022 because I had been keeping track of Canadian doctors who had been dying suddenly and seeing what they were dying from. Now, this was after the doctors were mandated to take at least two shots to keep their jobs. Now, if you remember in Alberta, Dr. Vernay-U, former H.S. CEO, and a darling of both the left and right brought the vaccine mandate to Alberta. Unilaterally, she came one day and said every healthcare worker, every doctor, every nurse at AHS must be vaccinated by October 16th to 2021, or they will be put on unpaid leave and they'll be fired. And at the time, Jason Kenney didn't say a word. Tyler Shandrow, you know, the health
Starting point is 00:11:24 Minister didn't say a word and they allowed her to effectively completely blindsight the healthcare system with a vaccine mandate that was unethical, unscientific and it was actually illegal. And I'm in touch with people who insiders at AHS who said that that AHS was basically going into people's medical records. They were going into their employees medical records. illegally to double check and see if they were vaccinated or not. In fact, apparently every computer at AHS had a countdown, a clock ticking the countdown to the date that everyone had to be vaccinated, had to have their two shots, and had to submit proof of that.
Starting point is 00:12:10 This was absolutely disgusting. This was criminal behavior by the AHS brass at the time. Jason Kenney allowed it, of course. And so we ended up in a situation where every doctor had to do. take two shots or they were fired. Now this, and it wasn't only in Alberta. It was, I mean, this was lockstep throughout Canada. This happened in the United States.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You know, this happened in Europe. Well, we just had, really. We just had Michelle Wharton on. She was a dental hygienist who took two shots. And, you know, that came down through their college as well, right? So that's BC. And I think we've heard, you know, the stories go on and on and on. I was working an oil field at the time, William, and we had our own deadline, right, of when
Starting point is 00:12:57 things had to be done. So it hit pretty much any and everywhere, especially in Canada. Canada has been, as we all know, a little bit of a dark place when it came to those times. It didn't matter where you worked, who you worked for. There are some bright lights out there, but there were few and far between. Exactly. Even the unions rolled over. I remember, you know, all these nurses came to me, and they,
Starting point is 00:13:22 They said, my union is throwing me under the bus. They're not supporting me. They said, well, just go get vaccinated, right? And a lot of people didn't want to get vaccinated. A lot of healthcare workers really did not want to get vaccinated. I think initially something like 30 to 35 percent of AHS staff did not submit their vaccine status. That's when they started threatening health care workers. That's when they started threatening people saying, well, you know, you're going to get fired.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And if you get fired, obviously, HHS will not rehire you because HHS is the only game in town. so they have a monopoly on hiring healthcare workers, but then you would lose your unemployment benefits as well if you were unvaccinated. So it was an absolutely vicious illegal thing. Verna, you should be in prison for the rest of her life. Instead, she's the vice president of the University of Alberta. She landed with a beautiful another $700,000 job after the damage that she did at Alberta Health Services. She destroyed health care in Alberta.
Starting point is 00:14:17 If there's a reason why we have shortages of oncologists, radiologists, healthcare workers, nurses, why ERs are empty in rural places, it's VerniU. And instead of being punished, she was rewarded. But that's what happens in Alberta is you commit a crime and you usually get rewarded for it. So the reason why we have so much injuries from the vaccine. And I'm not even going to go into the cardiac injuries, the blood clots, the autoimmune diseases, neurological diseases that we now see, the cognitive impairment, the early Alzheimer's, all that stuff, but it's the cancer, the turbo cancers, the cancers in young people, you know, the breast cancers
Starting point is 00:14:58 in 20-year-olds, which we've never seen before, the colon cancers in 20-year-olds, which were completely unheard of, even unthinkable, that now it's like a normal thing, it's a common thing. I see a lot of these patients now myself. So this turbo cancer phenomenon, I believe, is not just, you know, because of the vaccines causing immune system damage, severe immune system damage. And of course, there's some carcinogenic effect as well. But it's the vaccine mandates that really poisoned the working age populations, the young populations. The vaccine mandates at the universities, like University of Alberta, University of Calgary. When they mandated the shots on those kids, they can a lot of those kids to either a life of disability or a life of, you know, having to deal with cancer or they condemned them to death.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And again, none of the university leaders have gone to jail for this, right? Like we will never move on from COVID until these people are in prison. Once Verna Yu is sitting in prison for the rest of her life instead of running the University of Alberta, then we can talk about, you know, maybe we can think about moving on from COVID. when people like that are in prison instead of being at the top positions, even under a conservative government, you know, whether under Jason Kenny or Daniel Smith, right? So, anyways, getting back to Turbo Cancer, 2022, September, I sent a letter to the Canadian Medical Association, one of first of my four letters that I sent to the Canadian Medical Association telling them, hey, listen, our doctors are dropping dead, Canadian doctors are dropping dead.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And actually, this was first picked up by Steve Kirsch, back when I only only had. had 13 doctors who had died under suspicious circumstances and then it was quickly it was 32 then it was 80 then it was 1302 180 and then i lost count it was just too many to count who were dropping dead left and right steve kersh picked it up it went viral internationally to the point where the tronistar had to do a hit piece on it uh globe and mail had to do a hit piece on it reuters associated press i mean they sent the entire media army to try to put me down a few months later but i pointed it out in the summer of 2022, I said, listen, Canadian doctors are dropping dead. They're dropping dead of heart attacks. They're dropping dead of blood clots. And they're dropping dead of rapidly progressive
Starting point is 00:17:24 cancers. I didn't call a turbo cancer at the time. That term picked up a few months later. And then by 2023, you know, the turbo cancer was an international phenomenon. A lot of people started talking about it. And it's been a, it's, it's been a battle trying to you know, make people realize that this is real, this is happening. Many young vaccinated people have been affected by turbo cancers. Now it's going into kids. Now I'm starting to see kids with turbo cancers. Again, it's only not a lot of cases, but the kids that, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:03 usually their parents who are usually leftists, usually the NDP were the first ones to line up their kids or to rush to get their kids vaccinated. it often the nurses, the teachers, you know, they were the moms, they were the first ones to push their five-year-old to get two, three jabs when they were five-year-old that didn't need the vaccines, right? So I'm starting to see kids coming down with extremely aggressive cancers, bizarre cancers. So in the summer of 2022 was when I first started talking about it and trying to actually warn, put it in writing, warn people. And I've been writing about it ever since. I mean, was what I started writing about in my substack when I launched my substack in the beginning of
Starting point is 00:18:45 2023. I now have the fifth most popular medical substack in the world right between Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough. And I'm still warning people. I'm still, you know, sounding the alarm. It's been a slow. It's been a slow battle, but, you know, it's, we're getting there. The more and more data is coming out. Kevin McCurnan keeps doing, you know, more work discovering more contamination in the vaccines and things that could be causing cancer. It's not just the SV promoter and the plasmids and the DNA contamination. Now there's potentially other stuff in the jabs. He discovered other plasmids that have mammalian promoters
Starting point is 00:19:25 that would make it much easier for all the contamination in the vaccines to integrate into the genome and cause cancer. So, you know, as more info comes out, I think it's going to become, you know, acknowledged mainstream that these shots, the Pfizer and Moderna shots cause cancer, cause extremely aggressive cancers. These cancers are resistant to treatment. And a lot of people have been really poisoned by the shots and are going to be facing an increased risk of cancer for the rest of their lives.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Well, I think, you know, like sitting in this chair, when you first started talking about the doctors and everything else, one of the things, you know, for some not fast enough for others, they never want to see you back on this program ever again, right? So it's, it's an interesting, it's an interesting world regardless. I remember that. We had you on, you know, like now with the, the everything we talked about last episode, you know, it's, it's like one of the things I built this on is once upon a time, I was saying this to a listener.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Once upon a time, Daniel Smith coming on this show was, was, she was a dissident, right? She came on the show and talked when it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated. So we watched that together and then we talked about it, right? And now, obviously, Daniel Smith has always been very maybe strategic with her wording. Is it the right way to put it? I don't know. She's a smart cookie. Regardless, I look at it after we.
Starting point is 00:20:49 She's a very smart politician. Yeah. In saying that, it's still gotten her in political hot water since she's been on this show and others, I might add. And so, like, bringing you back on, I'm like, okay, I hear people getting better from cancer. They're going to work with people such as yourself. They're going to different places in the States. What makes you a rarity, I think, but maybe I'm wrong, Macas. Maybe you can point this out.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Maybe there's 15 more sitting across Canada is the thing that people, you know, I go back to Michelle Wharton, folks. We just listen to it. She's like trying to find somebody in Canada to work with because she's got a whole bunch of problems, which doesn't sound like cancer, actually, if I'm remembering correctly, I don't think she mentions that word. but it's a whole list of autoimmune issues, but specifically cancer or just in general. One of the things that Americans probably don't understand is like, there isn't a whole bunch of doctors talking about this.
Starting point is 00:21:47 There isn't a whole bunch of places to go that you know. Maybe there's a few underground doctors that you can go see, but as you pointed out at the start, like their medical license is being held over their head if they even mention the word terminal cancer, which in my, where I sit, I think is almost laughable if it wasn't so sad. So I guess I'm trying to, you know, we just had Scott Marzland on and I was looking it up because I wanted to make sure that I got the wording right. And I'm going to pull it up again, folks.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Oh, my goodness. Come on. Well, just to jump in there because you sort of mentioned, you know, the underground doctors talking about this. Well, we're not exactly underground. I mean, if you look at who are the most followed doctors in the world? I'm the most followed doctor in Canada. Now, I'm also the most censored doctor in Canada, but I'm the most followed doctor in Canada. I've got now, what, almost half a million followers on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Show me another Canadian doctor that's got half a million doctors on Twitter, right? The most follow doctors in the world, and I'm one of them, and that's maybe in the top 12 most followed doctors in the world, most of them are talking about the damage from the vaccines, the, you know, the... I guess I agree with you. All I was meaning is if I go into my local MD and go, hey, I got cancer, and they go, you got stage four cancer. answer. Like, you better, you know, and I'm assuming they're going to offer a couple things,
Starting point is 00:23:09 or maybe going to point you in a couple directions. One of the things they're not going to do, go, you should go see Dr. William Maccas. He's one of the most followed doctors in all of Canada, and he's actually got some really interesting ideas. That is not going to happen. That's actually happening. Is it happening? Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. I'm getting referrals from left and right. Canadian doctors, US doctors. Wow, I did not realize that. I have no, like, I don't know who these doctors are and they're like, oh, my doctor knows you. And my doctor's like, yeah, like go to, like go to Maxis. Like go go see what he's got to offer you because we got nothing to offer you. Yeah, it's happening. I mean, I'm telling you it's, I'm getting referrals from
Starting point is 00:23:45 doctors. I don't advertise my services. I haven't. You know, I made an announcement at the beginning that I'm going to start seeing patients again because, you know, I mean, I saw patients in the past. My cancer program got sabotaged. My license still being held hostage. UCP still hasn't restored my cancer program in Edmonton, so they're still sabotaging cancer care overall in Alberta. And so when I started seeing patients, you know, it started off a little bit slowly. And now it's just an absolute tsunami. And I'm looking at where they're coming from. And they're being referred by other doctors.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So it's, but they're doing it, of course. Other Canadian doctors, though? Canadian doctors as well. Yeah. That's fascinating. Because, you know, like, no, that's fascinating. I've got Canadian doctors who are my patients. even here in Edmonton.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's, trust me, it's changing so fast. It's changing so fast. There are people are, you know, doctors are catching on. And just to kind of, you know, finish on this thing of turbo cancer, right? You know, you go on Wikipedia and they say, well, this is an anti-vaccine myth and so on. And, you know, this is just a bunch of anti-vaxers making things up. But, you know, you and I can look around.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Any person can look around and see, how many people in your family or in your extended circle are coming down with sudden cancers, bizarre, aggressive cancers? How many, you know, friends and so on? And now it's like everyone in their circle knows someone who's coming down with these aggressive cancers. That didn't used to be the case, right? That includes the doctors, Sean. That includes the doctors.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Some of them are starting to see it. Now, they're not allowed to talk about it. Don't get me wrong. The college doesn't allow them to talk about it. And this is why I put so much pressure. One of the reasons I put pressure on Danielle Smith is the colleges have removed informed consent. They've abolished informed consent. So doctors are not allowed to talk about pharmaceutical products that are harming people.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And that could be causing cancer like the COVID-19 vaccines. Now, that is illegal. That is unethical. And the colleges should be dismantled for that. And the leaders of the colleges should be prosecuted, criminally prosecuted. because at this point, they're killing people. So doctors are not allowed to publicly talk about it because they'll get their license suspended.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Dr. Roger Hotskinson, who's talked about the damage from the vaccines, he's still being dragged through hearings. I think they just postponed his hearing. He's still having to find lawyers, raise money for lawyers, because they're going after him, right? So we're as Albertans, we're still allowing the colleges and HHS to shut doctors up. and to remove informed consent from Albertans.
Starting point is 00:26:33 That's not going to last very long. Eventually, there'll be pressure put on, so much pressure put on that Daniel Smith will have to do something about the colleges. And I think ultimately, she's being led in that direction. And you've got Jordan Peterson, who's basically had to flee Canada because he's called. He's the most notable. Yeah, he's the most notable person. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:56 There's more that people don't know about. Um, you know, I, I, I brought it up. Scott Marzlin was, uh, it was an episode that we weren't sure we're going to be able to air because of some things we talked about. And one of the things was was chlorine dioxide. And he started talking about that and I'm like, the cleaner, right? Like I, I'm sure my face looked like I was like, what are we talking about here? And, uh, you know, and that's what Mel Gibson alluded to with Joe Rogan, right? They got talking about all these different things.
Starting point is 00:27:28 is this like in your world treating cancer is that is that stuff that you're recommending the people well i don't know even know how to i don't know how you go about it i don't like are you and do you have a clinic again is that something you can even have but walk me through this uh william so people understand what they're because they're going to reach out to me and then i just keep steering them to you and i'm like maybe they should understand what they're they're getting into and then some of the things that you've seen that maybe you're working yeah so My focus back in 2022 and 2023 was to alert people to the died suddenly phenomenon and the turbo cancer phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And I put in a lot of work in social media posts, Twitter posts. I started a substack in early 2023. I've built that up to one of the biggest substacks in the world right now, talking about died suddenly turbo cancer and so on. Now, while I was doing that, I did a deep dive in, I started doing a deep dive into things like Ivermectin, things like hydroxychloroquine. I started writing articles about it, started reading all the papers. Well, as I'm reading papers about Ivermectin, I'm running into cancer, cancer, cancer, Ivermectin and cancer. And I'm thinking there are literally hundreds of papers on Ivermectin
Starting point is 00:28:42 and cancer published papers. I'm like, what is this? Why is there this giant body of work, this giant body of research on ivermectin and cancers? And then, you know, the more you dig, the more you find out that doctors outside of North America, doctors in places like the Philippines and Mexico and India, are treating patients with what are called repurposed drugs because patients don't often have access to top of the line chemo or they don't have access to expensive hospitals in some of these places in the world. For example, in the Philippines, if you don't have money for chemo, that's it. You don't get anything. You don't get treated. And so, So in some of these places in the world, they have to use other drugs or drugs that have been used for something else.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And it's usually cheap drugs. Drugs that are available for less than a dollar a pill, like Ivermectin, like mebendazole, from benzol, like hydroxychloroquine, for example. They have to look at, or doctors have been looking at cheap drugs, but that have proven activity against cancer, proven activity by, by, proven, I mean proven in the literature, in peer-reviewed literature, that other doctors have studied and published and so on. Now, this is a big deal in other parts of the world. Repurpose drugs are a big deal. Doctors are allowed to use them, and some of them have had tremendous success, and they've published. That's why there's a publication on chlorine dioxide and three patients being cured of cancer. Now, that publication didn't come from Canada, didn't come from the
Starting point is 00:30:18 United States. It came from South America, right? And so there's these doctors, who are some of them are brilliant, some of them are absolutely brilliant individuals. They've been working with cancer patients and repurposed drugs. A repurposed drug is drug that's used for one thing and approved for one thing, but then has activity in something else. So Ivermectin is an anti-parasetic drug that can be repurposed to be used in cancer and has been. For example, in the Philippines, thousands of people have been treated since 2021 with
Starting point is 00:30:53 Ivermectin for cancer when doctors discovered that when Philippine patients who were COVID patients were taking high doses of Ivermectin because they were panicked from the COVID-19 pandemic, their cancers started shrinking. Their tumors started shrinking and the doctors were like, hey, wait a minute. And they go into the research and they realize, okay, Ivermectin has a dozen mechanisms by which it acts against cancer and yet it's not being used for cancer. Why? Because it's cheap. Because it's off patent. And this is what I try to tell my patients, my North American patients, and this is why I get a tsunami of people being sent to me even by doctors, referred by doctors, Sean, is that when you're a cancer patient in Canada or the
Starting point is 00:31:34 United States, you get offered, you get offered medications or options that make money and only options that make money. So you are a $1 million asset to the pharmaceutical industry, the moment you get diagnosed with cancer. You get put on a treadmill where the doctor, all they have in their arsenal are drugs that make a lot of money for the pharmaceutical industry, for shareholders, of the pharmaceutical companies, and so on. And your oncologist is only allowed to offer you drugs that make money. They're not allowed to offer you anything else. So they can offer you a chemotherapy regimen that costs $100,000. They're allowed to offer you cutting-edge clinical trials, again, drugs that make hundreds of thousands of dollars, what they're not allowed to offer
Starting point is 00:32:26 you is ivermectin that you can get for a dollar a pill in India or less than a dollar a pill. They're not allowed to offer you that, even though that may be as efficacious or in some cases even more efficacious than a particular chemo that they're offering you. And I think a lot of people don't realize and only find out once they're diagnosed with cancer that, wait a minute, I am basically just an asset for this machine. that will basically make money from me, keep me alive. Now, they will try to keep you alive as long as they can, but at a maximal profit.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Now, if they can keep you alive with ivermectin for a buck a pill, no one's going to do that. And the doctor's not going to be allowed to do that. So doctors, the protocols they have, Sean, the protocols that doctors have, saying, this is your first line chemo, radiation, you know, then if you fail that, this is your second line chemo, this is your third line chemo.
Starting point is 00:33:20 This is your immunotherapy. This is your clinical trial. Now we've exhausted all the options. Go home and die. All of those things, all of those guidelines are established by big institutions like the Canadian Cancer Society, American Cancer Society, you know, other big institutions that are 90% funded or 100% funded by Big Pharma. So what's going to end up in those guidelines? It's going to be expensive drugs. It's going to be expensive chemo. This is why when my cancer program was sabotaged in Alberta, in Edmonton, by Verna Yu, HSU, O'VerniU, I was doing cutting-edge cancer treatments for free that were covered by Health Canada at $5,000 a pop. And Health Canada paid the $5,000 bucks for the targeted radiation therapy that I was doing. No one was getting rich.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I was being told by HHS executives and managers that, hey, you're costing us money, even though I was curing patients with a 90% cure rate in Edmonton. And they're like, you're costing us money. None of us are making profits here, Macias. No one's making any money. You're curing cancer. What the hell are we going to do with you? One H.S. executive told me, stop your cancer programs.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Stop curing cancer patients. You're costing us money. That was Dr. Matthew Parliament, who was the head of H.S. Cancer Care for almost 10 years, who ran, who was the medical director of the new Calgary Cancer Center, Sean, the new $2 billion beautiful cancer center that just opened in Calgary. He was the medical director of that. He told me, why are you treating cancer patients? Stop it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 We're losing money. We're not making any money on these cancer patients. And now, Sean, I found out from two of my patients, because I've got over 1,200 patients now, I have found out from two of my patients that they have been offered, PluVicto, which is a $200,000 prostate cancer patient, sorry, cancer treatment, that I was about to bring to Alberta in my cancer program in Edmonton before it got sabotaged, they were offered that treatment in British Columbia in Vancouver for $180,000 each now because it's only available privately.
Starting point is 00:35:30 There's some clinical trial that no one can get into in BC. That's my program that was shut down and rebuilt with Trudeau's support. Now you can get access to it after 10 years of my program. being sabotaged, but you have to pay $200,000 to get into it. It's called PluVicto, Lutetium-177 PSMA. I was publishing on Lutetium here in Alberta. I was treating patients for free with it. That's why I say when AHS murdered by patients left them to die, removed this cancer
Starting point is 00:35:59 treatment from Albertans, and then every HHS executive and Jason Kenny and Daniel Smith and everyone is helping covering it up. And they've spent over $10 million on legal fees trying to cover up the fact that this cancer treatment was removed from Alberta because Justin Trudeau hates Alberta and he wanted it with, you know, with private clinics in BC. And everyone's calling me a lunatic and Al Maccas. It's just you. You couldn't get along with AHS and the hell with you. Right. And the hell with you and your cancer patients. Right. But now you can have the treatment that I was offering that I would have brought to Alberta for free. If you've got $200,000, you can get it in Vancouver in one of the private clinics. That's been set up. Right. So profit. Let me just say it's profit.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Cancer is profit driven. And the only things you'll be offered by your oncologist who's got their, you know, medical license from the college is expensive chemo that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. And if you happen to be unfortunate and the chemo stops working for you, they will not offer you anything else. And what I am guiding people and I've built a huge practice in. you know, the last six months when I started seeing patients as a health coach, as a cancer coach, is I'm guiding them, I'm guiding patients in repurposed drugs,
Starting point is 00:37:21 and how to use repurposed drugs like ivermectin, like fend benzol, mebendazole, CBD, oil, melatonin, curcumin, what have you, how to use them to basically give yourself a shot at beating cancer. And I've got cancer patients who've now beat cancer. They're cancer-free. Many of them are still doing their chemo. They're still doing their radiation therapy. I don't advise anyone to stop chemo, stop radiation, don't get surgery. Because I get attacked on this that, you know, when patients come to me that, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:54 they're delaying their proper treatments or anything like that. That's BS. That's just personal attacks trying to stop me from doing my work. everyone can continue with their oncologists. In fact, I recommend they continue with their oncologist. Get your mainstream treatment. Get the best that mainstream medicine has to offer. And then add into your regimen, you know, repurpose drugs that can actually help you beat cancer because your oncologist can to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm wondering if you go rewind the clock to before this, when you're in, you know, I feel like, I just imagine you're getting to play with anything you can possibly think of to try and cure cancer. That's just, you know, I'm just thinking of this laboratory in Macas and his white coat folks. And, you know, I don't know, you know, mad scientist almost. But like, basically anything you can think of at your fingertips to use. Did you ever think of repurposed drugs back then? Was that even a thought or this has come because there's been no other options? And then you start seeing, wait a second, why do I keep seeing papers linked with ivermectin and cancer?
Starting point is 00:39:03 together. So this wasn't something back in the day that was on your your radar. No. And Sean, honestly, I came through the mainstream, I came through mainstream medicine. University of Toronto undergrad. I had an honors bachelor in immunology. I won all the scholarships at the University of Toronto, one of the toughest universities in Canada, often labeled number one university in Canada, right? Then I went to McGill University and I spent 10 years at McGill University doing medicine and then doing a five-year specialization in what was a branch of radiology and oncology. So 10 years at McGill, again, number one medical school in Canada. I came through the mainstream medical stream just like, you know, any other doctor.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And I practiced mainstream medicine. So back when I came, when I moved to Alberta to be the number one PETCT reader in Alberta and to treat cancer patients, I came here again with my full mainstream background, full academic background. So I was an assistant professor in radiology at the University of Alberta before that appointment got illegally sabotaged. And so I was a mainstream doc. But yet I was always interested in cutting edge, cutting edge diagnostics and cutting edge cancer treatments. And the cutting edge cancer treatment that Alberta had, thanks to Dr. Sandy McEwen, who was the chair at University of Alberta for radiology for a decade and then oncology for a decade. He brought this in from Europe. It was a
Starting point is 00:40:31 pet project of his. Now, back then, he wasn't being sabotaged by AHS. Back then, Hs didn't exist. So when we, when we didn't have AHS, we had cutting edge cancer research. The moment Hs came in, they killed, they killed cutting edge cancer. And what year did AHS come in? 2008, 2009. Okay. Right. And so, and so he brings in this cutting edge radiation therapy, from Europe that have been developed in Europe and that they had been using in Europe since the early 2000s and curing cancer patients with it at a very, very high rate. And I was hired, you know, I was brought to Alberta to work on this. Now, I didn't realize that as I was being brought in, that HHS was actively trying to sabotage that very program that I was hired to run and that they
Starting point is 00:41:22 were actually actively working to kill that program when I was being brought in. So I was brought in. I started working, you know, I developed this, this large cancer, you know, program. It's this trial. You know, it's approved by Health Canada. Everything is being paid for. And I'm publishing about it. So my papers are going, you know, internationally about this cutting edge cancer treatments. Actually, the FDA sat on it for almost 20 years and wouldn't approve it because they were afraid it would cut into the profits. of chemo and the moment they approved it in 2016 one of the first treatments was formerly FDA approved. I think Novartis came in with a $2 billion buyout of a startup of a $20 million startup. They put in $2 billion to buy up all the patents to rights
Starting point is 00:42:10 and now it's part of mainstream medicine and like I said, you can go to Vancouver, pay $200,000 in one of the clinics where they're trying to do the work that I used to do and get your treatment. But if you don't have $200,000, you don't get access to it. And of course, Albertans haven't had access to it for, you know, for years now. So I was a mainstream guy. So I wasn't thinking about repurposed drugs at the time. I'd never heard of Ivermectin. I'd never heard of 2015 when I was working on cutting edge radiation therapy, targeted radiation therapy, I'd never heard of ivermectin. I'd never heard of chlorine dioxide.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I'd never heard of hydroxychloroquine. I'd never heard of methylene blue. I'd never heard of colloidal silver. I mean, this was all foreign to me. This was like, you know, you take vitamins or whatever. And I had patients who were trying different stuff, who were going to clinics in Mexico and all that. And I was like, look, it's perfectly, it's great.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know, you guys can do what you want. I've got this trial here. You can be part of it or not. You know, informed consent, all of it. But I had no idea what repurposed drugs were. Now, fast forward to COVID, right? And we end up in a situation where, you know, you've got these drugs that have been used for decades, right? And then suddenly, smart doctors figure out that, wait a minute, you can use Ivermectin to treat COVID.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And it's an antiparacetic. But you can use it to treat COVID. and successfully. You can use hydroxychloroquine, which is a malaria drug for COVID and use it successfully. Guess what? That's repurposing drugs for COVID. You're using repurposed drugs. So COVID actually initiated this whole body of area called repurpose drugs where people were looking at drugs. Say, wait a minute, this works for something else. Let's use it because it's cheap. It's available. And it can save lives now. And that's why there were the doctors in the United States. Like Dr. Mary Bauden, Dr. Peter McCullough, you know, Pierre Corey. They were treating COVID patients with
Starting point is 00:44:10 ivermectin hydroxychloroquine because it worked. And they saved thousands and thousands of lives in the United States because it worked. And those drugs got attacked and got railroaded because you needed to have no treatments available for COVID so you could roll out the COVID-19 vaccines, the emergency authorization that allowed this multi-hundred billion dollar machine of these contaminated, which we now know are, contaminated toxic COVID vaccines that have caused far more harm than good. But you had to smear repurpose drugs like Ivermectin, like hydroxychloroquine. And that was done in Alberta as well. We had a giant hydroxychloroquine trial. Nobody knows about that in Alberta. And now the shadow minister of health, Luann Metz, NDPMLA, she was actually
Starting point is 00:44:57 the head of that trial. She killed the hydroxychloroquine trial when the fraudulent paper came out in the summer of 2020, that hydroxychloroquine causes heart attacks. So she killed the hydroxychloroquine trial in Alberta. And when it came out that that paper was fraudulent and was used to smear hydroxychloroquine and was retracted by the New England Journal of Medicine in June of 2020, she never restarted the hydroxychloroquine trial. She's responsible for at least 1,600 Albertans dying because they didn't have access to a repurposed drug like hydroxychloroquine. guess what? She's now in the government and she's an NDP MLA and she's now the shadow minister of health, possibly future minister of health in Alberta. Like I told you last time, I expect
Starting point is 00:45:39 NDP to win the next election. So this is how to, but she killed the hydroxychloroquine trial on the basis of a fraudulent paper that was retracted and she never restarted it. So that's just going back to that's repurposed drugs. COVID has driven repurposed drugs into the spotlight. Well, one of the things I find very fascinating, right? Like COVID was for, I think, I think, Can anyone sit here? I mean, there's probably a few people, I guess that would say
Starting point is 00:46:02 it was the best time in their life. But like, for most of us, it was a pretty rough go. But now you start to see the things that are starting to blossom out of, out of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:13 and I even think of this podcast, right? I used to say to doctors, as they're first speaking out on this show, they were losing their dream job. I think of Eric Payne, specifically. And on the flip side,
Starting point is 00:46:25 I got my dream job, right? Because part of what I do here is I get, you the voice to come on and talk about things that for a lot of people are uncomfortable, right? Like it's uncomfortable. But now I think another thing that's really interesting, as you're talking, and I'm like, you would have never thought of ivermectin for cancer. Right? But that's what you're talking about. And now you're building a career out of helping
Starting point is 00:46:49 people navigate a horrific situation with a bunch of drugs that nobody would have ever thought of except unless you didn't have the options. You mentioned, I think, India or the Philippines and a few different places where doctors are like, well, it's just, we got no other options. So let's start throwing some things in there and see what happens. And what did you know? Some things are starting to look like, well, this could actually be working. And that's interesting because this is going to undermine the medical institutions, I think,
Starting point is 00:47:22 more than ever, because if people want to get Ivermectin and they still won't give it, they're going to start going to places where they can find it. And there's a whole bunch of us that already figured that out. But, you know, when you're treating cancer, specifically, when you're talking to people, you're coaching them through this. What are some things that have surprised you, William? Because you would be an interest, like to me, as a guy who had, wow, we found a way to do this. They take it away.
Starting point is 00:47:47 You're like, okay, well, that sucks. Now you've found a way to use repurpose drugs. What is stuck out to you? Like, I can't believe that worked. I can't believe this is working. Yeah. Well, you know what, Sean, I'll tell you this. I had, because the way of my cancer program was sabotaged,
Starting point is 00:48:03 I basically sworn off doing any clinical work ever again. I didn't want to see patients because it had basically cost me my career. My love of medicine and, you know, treating patients because I had, you know, I'd been using that targeted radiation treatment that was sabotaged. And in the way that I was, you know, sabotaged and then just my family persecuted and so on, I was like, I'm not going to do this. And if I'm meant to be a medical writer, you know, looking into abandoned drugs like Ivermectin and writing about them and putting articles out, say, hey, this stuff is used for
Starting point is 00:48:38 treating cancer. What about this dog dewormer, friend Bendazole? Well, there's a human version FDA approved called Medizol. Both of them treat cancer. You know, Joe Tippins, the U.S. man who was given a death sentence with small cell lung cancer in 2017, his friend's like, hey, try this dog be wormer. He did. He's still alive, by the way, you know, seven years later, and they told him he'd be dead within a month, within extremely, one of the most aggressive cancers you can have, which is a small cell lung cancer. There's no cure for it. Even, even chemo doesn't touch it. He's alive seven years later because of fendenzol. So he popularized that, right? And so, I mean, yeah, I would have never, I would have never been using repurposed drugs. Now, what happened to me was I started writing about this and I started, you know, doing research. As I did research, as I did I'm writing about it. My articles are becoming popular. They're going viral internationally. And I was going to be a medical writer for the rest of my life. That's what I was going to do. In 2023, I was resolved. I'm going to just be a medical writer for the rest of my life. I'm comfortable with that. Like I said, my substack grew. It's one of the biggest substacks in the world right now. I've got about 90,000 subscribers on substack. Like I said, right beside Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough, which I think is a great honor. It's an incredible honor to be among that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 top U.S. doctors, right, in terms of my writing, my medical writing. Well, I'll tell you, Sean, what started happening was this is how I got into treating cancer patients again, is as I'm doing speeches, live events in Alberta and B.C., you know, in the United States, people start coming to me either before or after the event. And they start telling me, they're like, listen, I read your Ivermectin article, or I took your advice on Ivermectin, and my cancers, my tumor shrinking, or, you know, I'm no longer stage four. I'm cancer free. My oncologist told me I should be dead by now.
Starting point is 00:50:34 How come I'm still alive? I started getting these stories. And you know, you know what really? It peaked for me this past June with the injection of truth event. That's actually what got me started on with my cancer clinic, my Ivermectin cancer clinic. What happened was there wasn't just the injection of truth event in June, which was where we talked about the COVID vaccines on the childhood, Alberta childhood vaccine schedule, right? It was actually a week of events.
Starting point is 00:51:03 There were two other events that myself, Dr. Trossey, and Dr. Shoemaker spoke at. One of them was in Red Deer the following day. And then the day after that, there was an event in St. Albert, close to Edmonton. And at the St. Albert event, the organizers told, you know, the 500 or 600 attendees, and they said, listen, you can, guys, go talk to Dr. Maccas now before the speech because it can get busy and so on. So I had a huge lineup of like, you know, 100 people wanting to talk to me. And I'm not lying about this. Like, this is the first five people that came up to me said, hey, Dr. Maccas, they were cancer patients. And they said they're either cancer-free or their tumors were shrinking. because they had read something about that I had written. They had heard about ivermectin from me. They had heard about van Bendozole.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And they just started using it on their own. And they're like, thank you. Thank God for you. Like I said, I think it was the third person in line said, my oncologist told me I should be dead. And look at me and she's like, she starts dancing in front of me. And I'm like, this is fantastic. Like this is incredible.
Starting point is 00:52:11 So, you know, the fact that patients were taking something that I had just written about and actually using it on their own. And, you know, they didn't know the doses. They didn't know how to get it right sometimes. But they were getting results. And these were stage four patients who really were out of options. And at that event, it clicked to me. This was, I think it was June.
Starting point is 00:52:34 It was either June 19th or 20th. And it clicked. And I said, I have to do this. I have to help people and guide people in this because this is happening with or without me. So it might as well be happening with me. might as well be helping people and get it right. You know who has a similar story in a different realm, but a similar story, is Jordan Peterson. I don't know if you've ever heard him.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I'm sure you have. I'm sure everybody has. But he'll talk about, you know, looking out in a crowd and starting to see young men, specifically young men, starting on their head and being like, and one of the reasons I've, I don't know if I've, I think I've said this on here. One of the guys I've wanted to get on the podcast for a very long time. It has never happened. And, you know, some days, I feel like it's not.
Starting point is 00:53:16 meant to happen right now, but what are you going to do? I've had Tammy on, and it's just, it's just funny. I've had his arm on, William. His arm came on the screen. I'm like, well, I guess he's been on now. What are you going to do? But one of the reasons I want to have them on is I just want to like virtually or physically, if it was in person, just shake his hand and say, you have no idea what you've done for, I think, you know, just I don't want to blow it too far for the world, but certainly just I sit and I go myself. So when you talk about the woman dancing, I'm like, I actually really understand that because, you know, like when you start to make sense to people looking for answers, that's like it's a huge like piece of the puzzle if you would. It's not the entire puzzle.
Starting point is 00:53:59 They still got to go do the work. They still got to put in. They still got to take the treatments. They still got to fight through it. They got to do all the work. Yeah, for sure. But if they didn't have the person to put the piece of the puzzle in, you know, they're wandering and they're looking for it. So, you know, like when you're talking about that and it's like, oh, man, I'm also.
Starting point is 00:54:18 To me, that reminds me of Jordan Peterson, because that's what Jordan Peterson talks about with, with trying to help. And at the time, you know, it's changed. And some people hate Dr. Peterson now. Some people love them. But for my life, his book, 12 rules for life. It just went, huh. And that's where the beginning of this show started of the idea of getting a podcast going, right? It's just like start to, you know, clean up your room.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It was such a simple little idea. You know, I don't know how you wrote about it, but I assume it's like, you know, Ivermectin, this drug that's been demonized forever, actually might help with cancer. I'm sure somebody was sitting there looking for an answer going, holy crap, got nothing else. Might as well try it. And I'll tell you, Sean, my social media is blown up, right? My substags blowing up, my Twitter's blowing up. I think when the Mel Gibson thing came out, and just to kind of bring it back to Mount Gibson, right?
Starting point is 00:55:09 I treated one of his, I treated one of his close friends. And this was like this person said, hey, listen, like he's one of my best friends. And again, I haven't wanted to sort of go into details because again, patient confidentiality and so on. Right. And I thought, you know, that's nice. That's great. And I treat all comers, right? I don't treat anybody different.
Starting point is 00:55:31 If you're, you know, not wealthy, if you're wealthy, to me, it's all the same, right? You've got cancer. We're going to deal with it. I had no idea that Mel Gibson was going to be on Rogan, and he was going to bring up that fact that he's got friends that have beaten stage four cancer, and, you know, he was going to bring up pybermectin up and bendus, I had no idea he was going to do that, right? You know, so I'm here doing my own thing.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And really all I'm doing is, and I told you, it was that moment when I had those people at the lineup, as I was about to give a talk about, you know, the vaccines and children, you know, being harmed by the vaccines and so on. And I've got these people telling me like, like, I'm beating stage four cancer because of you, because of the article you put out last year. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And it just clicked. And I thought, okay, I have to be part of this. It's either, you know, I can choose to not see patients and keep writing and so on, or I can choose to be a part of this. It came to me. I didn't go searching for it, right? I wasn't out there, you know, trying to figure out like, oh, how do I, how do I get Ivermectin into people?
Starting point is 00:56:35 With only a few minutes left here before I've got to let you go, I guess that's maybe a good question asked. So you're being a part of it. Does that mean like there's an actual walking clinic or is this like all online and people just got to reach out to you direct? Like how do they be? You're sitting there. They're listening to this. They got cancer. And they're going, oh, man, this sounds interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:56 How do they go about starting to work with you? It's basically like it's like a form of telehealth. It's online. It's, you know, Zoom, telephone, email. Sure. I don't, I don't have a walking clinic yet. Now, I've been offered. I've been offered a big clinic in the United States.
Starting point is 00:57:14 There's already people talking about building a cancer clinic, building it around me, building it around Ivermectin, building it around repurposed drugs, getting this up and running in the United States. And maybe that's where this is headed. And maybe that's where I'm going to end up, right? Certainly not hearing anything in Canada and certainly getting no support in Canada, getting no support from, you know, the UCP, getting no support from Daniel Smith. And so, but you will notice, Jordan Peterson carved his own path.
Starting point is 00:57:40 He didn't get support in Ontario from the conservative government, from Doug Ford, from, you know, his college. He carved his own path. And now he's got Jordan Peterson University. He's got his own thing going. He's a global phenomenon. I mean, he's a superstar. He's got, you know, he's got millions of people following him. he goes on tours, he does speeches, but he's got, he carved his own path out of the mainstream
Starting point is 00:58:06 establishment, including the political establishment. And I always bring up, you know, he sort of campaigned for Danielle Smith and she said, yeah, I'm going to clean up the colleges. And then, you know, she basically went back on her word, broker promise. And then Jordan Peterson left Canada. Maybe we could have had him in Alberta, but he left and he went to the United States where you can follow your dreams without being as restricted as you are in Canada. But he carved his own path and look how many millions of people he's helped, right? So when I realize that this is a real thing that I can help patients with ivermectin or fendenzel, and Joe Rogan was reading my fenbendazole article, my substack article on his show just a few months ago. There's been clips
Starting point is 00:58:46 circulating of Joe Rogan, you know, reading about fendenzol and sort of butchering the pronunciation and trying to figure out what is this thing that can, what is this antiparesthetic that can help cure cancer? So I've carved my... own path and I am carving my own path in this and I'm not going to let anyone stop me. The college is certainly not going to stop me. The UCP government is not going to stop me. They better get out of the way at least, at the very least. That's the least they can do is just get out of the way because they're not going to help me and they're not going to help these cancer patients either because Sean, we have some of the worst cancer care in the world here in Alberta
Starting point is 00:59:20 and just in Canada throughout. I'm not going to put this on UCP. This is across the board in Canada. We have the worst cancer care in the world. I'm telling you, Sean, I have patients in India. I have patients in China. I have patients in Thailand. I have patients in Singapore, Australia, UK, Ireland. And I can tell you my patients, my cancer patients in India and China are getting better cancer treatments than Albertans are getting from AHS here at the $2 billion, you know, shiny cancer center under the care of AHS and college licensed to the doctors. My patients in India are getting better patients care. They're getting better results. So I'm carving my own path and I can't do it through the mainstream. I would love to do it through the mainstream. Give me my damn license back.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I'll build a cancer clinic. I will open a cancer clinic in Edmonton tomorrow. Just give me my damn license back and tell me you'll leave me alone and leave my family alone. Stop threatening my family. Stop sending me letters from H.S. Lawyers from the premier's office saying that you're going to put me in prison for 83 days. Just leave me the F alone. Give me my license back.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I'll open a giant center and I can tell you, Sean, it's going to be full. And there's going to be thousands of people lining up to get care. Because I do have Alberta cancer patients that have come to me and saying, I can't get an oncologist to see me. I've got a three-month appointment while my cancer grows. I don't have any treatment. My oncologist won't give me the PET scan I need, the MRI scan I need. My chemo's been delayed by three months.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I have those patients, Sean. I mean, I could bury the establishment here 10 times over, again, just based on the poor cancer care that patients are getting right now in Alberta, because they're not getting the treatment that they should be getting. And I'm not talking about just the chemo. It's all of the delays. There's so much delays right now. And cancer patients will tell you that, Sean.
Starting point is 01:01:13 They will tell you, I can't get to see an oncologist. I can't get treatment. We had a stage four gastric cancer patient in Edmonton die on a wait list, 41 years old. He died waiting to see someone at AHS. He couldn't even get to see a medical student. He couldn't even speak to an AHS secretary. He waited three months and he died, Stephen Wong. And his wife said, if I had known how bad cancer care is in Canada, in Alberta, I would have, the moment we were diagnosed with stage four gastric cancer, I would have gotten on a plane and flown to anywhere else in the world. And I've gotten better care and maybe saved my husband's life than waiting on AHS because he waited for three months and then he died.
Starting point is 01:01:52 So I'm getting those patients to, Sean. So when you talk about like, you know, can I open a clinic and so on, I would love to if I didn't, if I wasn't worried that the college that has the Edmonton police on speed dial would send the police and try to shut down my cancer clinic because we know that they would do that. So right now it's telehealth. People contact me through my email. I tell them the package, what's involved. and I guide them. The initial consultation is for helping them with ivermectin, with van benazole, medazole, CBD, oil, melatonin, you know, curciman.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I'm looking at methylene blue. I'm looking at DMSO. I'm looking at chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is a little tricky. It's a little more controversial, but I'm looking at it. I've written about it. And I'm helping guide patients in their cancer journey. you know, we do it. The initial consultation is for three months. I give them follow up for three months.
Starting point is 01:02:51 They're not getting, you know, a fraction of that kind of care from their college licensed AHS employed oncologists here in Alberta. Is the easiest way to get a hold of you, your email? Is that the easiest way for people to reach out? Yes. Macus W79 at yahoo.com. And I really hate giving it out because I'm so swamped. I get like five, six hundred emails a day. I've had to hire. people to help me. I was just going to say get an onboarding form, William, so that people can tell you exactly what they're looking for. Either way, I told you I'd have you out of here top the hour. Thanks for hopping in talking some things cancer-wise for people, because I had a bunch
Starting point is 01:03:33 of people reaching out specifically for that when we were done and hoping that I'd get you back on as soon as possible. So hopefully this gives a little more information for people. And if they're, you know, fighting cancer, battling with cancer, diagnosis. with cancer, I guess. They know where to turn here in Alberta and I guess elsewhere because of being telehealth, it doesn't actually matter. Borders, you know, you can reach out from wherever you're listening from. My clientele, Sean, is international.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I've got my Canadian patients. I've got a lot of American patients. I've got now, like I said, patients from around the world, India, China. It shocks me, actually, where patients come from. I've got my first patient from Nigeria, cancer patient. So it's global. I've got cancer patients from around the world. People can also find me on my substack, macsmd.substack.com, all my articles and my testimonials.
Starting point is 01:04:22 That's one thing that differentiates me, again, from all other doctors, is I post the testimonials right in the patient's words. I anonymize everything, but I post testimonials of patients as they're getting better, as they're improving, as they're having great results. People can follow me on Twitter at MACSMD. My Twitter's blowing up. I asked Grock, you know, is Dr. Mack is the fastest growing? a doctor account on Twitter and they're like, yep, it looks like Dr.
Starting point is 01:04:49 like I got 100,000 almost new Twitter followers just in the past weekend after the Mel Gibson thing blew up when I said, yeah, I treated one of Mel Gibson's friends. Like to me, it's not a big deal, but I guess, you know, it blew up. And like you said, Sean, if this was me 10 years ago, I would have never gotten, you know, the opportunity to treat one of, you know, Mel Gibson's friends and really the opportunity to treat people from around the world, people in all walks of life. I feel blessed that I have this opportunity. And I say, you know, to hell with the college.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I want to see the college try to stop me from helping cancer patients, from curing some of these cancer patients. I want to see the college or the government try to stop me. And I've got an international backing now. That's why I was able to raise $150,000 in two days when people found out that, you know, Daniel Smith and AHS are trying to put me in prison for 83 days. I raised the money like that. And any fees that AHS is trying to extort out of my family, I was able to raise it in one or two days.
Starting point is 01:05:53 So I'm going to keep going, I'm going to keep going like Jordan Peterson. I'm going to keep carving out a path. I'm going to keep helping people. And I'm going to keep helping cancer patients because, you know, this is my calling. I'm good at it. Whether I do it in Alberta or I do it somewhere else, I'm going to keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:10 So people can, you know, follow me to find out most. more. Because this is where the future is. The future is in repurposed drugs. It's not in the MRNA cancer vaccine that the Oracle CEO, you know, came out yesterday and said, oh, we're going to spend $500 billion and we're going to treat everyone's turbo cancer with another MRI vaccine that caused your cancers to begin with. Oh, you caught that. Did you? Yes. It's BS. The technology doesn't work. I think Trump is having fun with these guys, these con artists, MRI con artists. It's never going to happen. The future is in repurpose drugs.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Thanks, William, for hopping back on. Thanks so much, John.

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