Shaun Newman Podcast - #794 - NCI: Buckley - Kuntz - Drysdale

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Ken Drysdale is an executive engineer with over 40 years of experience as a Professional Engineer. He is the author of the "Drysdale Report," a forensic audit on the Canadian government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic.Ted Kuntz is the President of Vaccine Choice Canada (VCC), a not-for-profit society advocating for informed consent and the right to make healthcare decisions related to vaccination.Shawn Buckley is a constitutional lawyer with a specialization in Canada's Food and Drug Act. His legal expertise has been pivotal in discussions around health policy, particularly vaccine approval processes.We discuss the upcoming National Citizens Inquiry hearings in Edmonton, how important it is to hear testimonies in person and their upcoming NCI fundraiser in Morinville AB.Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Contribute to the new SNP StudioE-transfer here: [e-mail] your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]

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The third, a constitutional lawyer. I'm talking about Ted Kuntz. Ken Drysdale and Sean Buckley. So buckle up. Here we go. All right, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Yeah, this is kind of an oddity on a Monday morning to have it live. So everybody who's sitting there staring at, I think we're live on X and Rumble and Facebook,

if memory serves me correct, I'd hate to get us removed from YouTube again. So we didn't do that on live. But regardless, if you're tuning in, you're probably going, what the heck is Sean doing? Well, I got a phone call, a text from. from a friend saying, hey, we got some things coming up here this week, and we'd love it if you could help out. And when these gentlemen reach out, it's hard to say no. So I'm going to welcome in Ken Drysdale, Ted Coons, and Sean Buckley.

Gentlemen, thanks for joining me this morning. That's a pleasure. Nice to see you. Yeah, it's just a pleasure to be on your show, Sean. Now, I'm going to, you know, honestly, when it comes to the National Citizens Inquiry, the NCI, I think a lot of us here have a ton of time for it, the ton of time for the work that you among others do. But you have some things coming up.

How about we just start there and we'll see where we get to in the conversation. And feel free any of you to go. Who's quarterback in this thing? Ken, I'll probably start with you. Ken, if you want to take what's happening this week and then I'll take the hearings. Well, it's just that I don't remember the, to be honest, I don't remember the name of the town we're going to be in. But we're having it.

Warrenville. Warrenville. So on Wednesday night, 7 p.m. We're going to be in Mornville, Alberta. We are holding a fundraiser for the National Citizens Inquiry. The purpose of the fundraiser is to really keep the NCI going. You know, we've scheduled new hearings in Edmonton for March 6th through 8th, so three full days of hearings. You know, we had additional hearings this past October in Vancouver, and we're now preparing a report on that.

that report has to do with the safety of children in Canada. And one of the things that we discovered during that process, we had three full days of hearing in Vancouver in October, but one of the things that we discovered was there's a lot more to that subject than three days of hearings could manage. So we're doing an additional three days in Edmonton, and we're looking at some very sobering things. You know, I'm just looking right now at the draft report we're doing for,

from Vancouver. And, you know, we looked at things like education and the school environment, curriculum content, parents' rights, teacher and administrative bias, student mental health, impacts of COVID-19 mandates on students, student consent and pressures. We looked at child trafficking, sexualization of children, digital safety. I can go on and on and on. So, you know, And you can see that in three days, all of those subjects came up and we're now writing in depth about them. But again, one of the things we realized was how huge this topic was. And that's why we're scheduling additional hearings. You know, Sean Buckley, do you want to talk a little bit more about it?

Yeah, absolutely. And so on that Moorinville thing, so for people who don't know, it's right beside Edmonton. So, you know, it really is an Edmonton fundraiser. And one of the groups, the group that's sponsoring it is called SA22. And I think Sean will put up a poster later. So, and it'll be on the ncii.ca website, so national citizensinquiry.ca. That really is the source for kind of all of the information in the upcoming Edmonton hearings. And that's where you'll be able to get tickets online.

We don't charge for tickets for any of our hearings. They're public hearings. But we do ask for donations at the door to help us. cover our costs. But Commissioner Drystale is absolutely correct. The Vancouver hearings are online. So you can go to our website, the hearings tab 2024, Vancouver hearings, start and just watch the full day. We haven't yet gotten to the point. And remember, we're all volunteers where each witness has a full witness page. But I think watching the ANCI is better when you just start at the

beginning of a day in March through. And you aren't the same if you watch a day. You can't be I don't know a single person who's and it's a challenge to you you watch a full day of the ncii and then you come to me and tell me you're the same person you're not there's something about the format people swearing to tell the truth and then being questioned by lawyers and the commissioners on forbidden topics you know i was um i was on a call the other day and um it it was There's just a volunteer call yesterday where we've got new volunteers coming on to help us with these Edmonton hearings. And I was saying, you know, yeah, we ran these COVID hearings in 2023. If there was any other inquiry now running a hearing into COVID, calling the same witnesses, you're going to get different evidence because we're not afraid anymore.

We're not in the thick of it. We're not worried about losing our families being completely ostracized. We're not worried about losing our jobs. We've had a couple of years, I think the whole country is in denial mode and just missing this wonderful opportunity we have to bring about peaceful change. But the NCI documented things in the middle of the fire, in the middle of, you know, when people were afraid. Now, what's interesting is we're finding the same fear with our topic now. Like you would think anyone would be free in Canada to talk on any topic dealing with our children safe. Is there a more fundamental question than our children safe?

But let me give you an example. So my wife, Teresa, that's the prime person in trying to track down expert witnesses, has been speaking to doctors about the issue of made being extended to what we call mature minors. Now, we learned at the Vancouver hearings that what the provinces have done is they've, it used to be minors couldn't consent to any medical treatment, let alone serious medical treatment. let alone medical treatment that would lead to their death. But they've amended their legislation. And if you are what's called a mature minor,

and if the health care provider, they don't include the parents in these discussions. In fact, parents are excluded. Because we have a new philosophy that if the parents are objecting to things that children want, that that's hateful, that that's bigotry, that that's racist. is we've actually the system throws labels internally. We've changed our ideology so that the system actually has a responsibility,

a human rights responsibility to exclude parents from important medical decisions involving their children. Like you got to watch those Vancouver hearings. But here we're talking about medically assisted suicide. Now, you know, I'm in my 30th year of practicing law. In five days, I finish year 30. It used to be that it was illegal. You couldn't, it doesn't matter how bad somebody was suffering, how terminal. We refused to allow the state or it was criminal for anyone to assist them to die.

And, you know, the Supreme Court of Canada, they didn't want to let the thin edge of the wedge into that door for fear that it would be abused. And then, you know, we waited and waited and waited until we had such a good case and we tried again. And then the Supreme Court of Canada said, fine, we will open that door. And we will allow it. And everyone thought, you know what, we're going to have four a year? Five on a bad year. Like that this would be something used with extreme restraint. I don't know the figures.

Like, is it 15% of our death rate? Like, it's just, it's a crazy high figure. Like, it's, in fact, you cannot get your head around that it's now a major cause of death, medically assisted suicide. And now, you know, the federal government is looking at extending that. So a health care practitioner can sit down with a depressed teenager. And oh, my gosh, you're going through puberty. Of course, you don't know which way is up and you're confused and depressed.

And you're going to be soul searching until your frontal lobe develops. That I thought that was part of being human before. And it's just something we all go through. And it's part of our maturation process. But no, now I'm having a bad day. And some health care provider and likely there's. financial incentives can encourage me to get killed by the state. Now, a doctor, I'll talk about one doctor in, you know, and I won't do anything to identify

the doctor, but you know, there's a doctor who's an expert on this and who's spoken to many other doctors about it and is actually appalled that other doctors aren't speaking out. This has been communicated to us, you know. I've spoken to my colleagues and I'm appalled that they won't speak up. out, but this doctor won't speak out at the National Citizens Inquiry because the doctor's convinced that there will be job loss. So isn't that fantastic that in Canada, in 2025, a doctor speaking about issues of child safety is legitimately worried about being fired? The stat you're looking for, Sean, of last year was 4.7% of it. Okay, sir.

I was way high, but still, that's crazy. Well, it is crazy. A, it was 4.7, I think it was 1 in 20 or just under 1 in 20 deaths in Canada were made. And, you know, that's, and it's the trend is going up. So what you're talking about is, it's only going up. It isn't, it isn't, but it's, but 4% is still outrageous. 100%. Well, we have the same population as California.

And our assisted death rate is 10 times what California is. It's 10 times. I mean, it's not even close. So how does that happen? What's happening in this country that we are so easily embracing, helping people to commit suicide? Yeah, I don't say the number to diminish what you're talking about. I think it's insane that this is the way of the way Canadian health care is going. Nobody's going to find a doctor.

And let's let's make the age and the requirements to get made less and less and less. And the other point, John, was making is that they're undermining parental authority and responsibility to make these important decisions. They're telling young people that they have the maturity, that they don't need to consult with their parents. And they're actually going out of their way to do that. I just received a note, for example, on Couch and Valley in Vancouver Island, where they're holding a vaccine clinic this week for grade nine students. And they are saying, do not tell the parents, do not tell the students. And the reason they say don't tell the students is because they get anxious. So only when they show up in the gymnasium, well, they know what they're there for.

And the reason they're saying not to tell the parents is because when they announce when there's vaccine clinics in the schools, the number of students who attend school that day diminishes. And so they're going out of their way to deny parents the ability to participate in that medical decision for their minor children. You also have peer pressure. You're all in the gym. Everyone's getting jabbed. You haven't had time to think about it. And even though you don't want to do that, you're going to get jab. But we've really had a philosophical change because the teachers and social workers and doctors and nurses support this alienation of parental rights.

And so what's happened, Sean, is it used to be that teachers and nurses and doctors and social workers were taught parents. It's the parents' right to decide for the children. It was the parents that basically had the authority to make the, the, decisions that are in the best interest of the children. Now, if the social workers and nurses and all of that still believe that, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. And so it's important to understand that we have spent, you know,

about 30, 40 years in the education system, basically teaching these professionals a new paradigm of basically human rights. That, you know, so like if we can just use what we learned at the Vancouver hearings with this transgender culture, It doesn't matter whether you support it or don't support it. Let's understand what's happened at a philosophical level and the ramifications. I mean, if you support it, you go, well, that's great. But let's at least understand what we've done is we've introduced gender ideology

where we're defining gender as subjective, then not objective. It doesn't matter what your biological birth sex is. Gender is whatever you subjectively believe it is. and we actually encourage kids as a matter of policy to start approaching this. Well, now that we've introduced gender identity, which we really didn't have before, we make it a human right. And this is actually by international convention with the UN. So these kids have a right to be able to identify themselves however they want.

And so if a parent is going to interfere and the system knows that most parents will object and interfere, then actually you are undermining the child's rights by involving the parents. And the whole culture is defined that if anyone voices any objection, that that's transphobic, that that is abuse. And so we actually have a system that has been ideological. culturally cultured to basically exclude parents and they do it because they believe it's the right thing to do. And I think we have to understand that there's been a philosophical change instilled in our professionals that we were unaware of. And this is the type of thing that's coming out at these NCI hearings.

Go ahead, John. Well, I just wanted to bring up the poster, showed out to Teresa, wherever she's hiding. She did get it to me. This is the fundraiser. So I'm going to pull it back to the fundraiser just quickly so that people, if they're just tuning in, they can get the information. It's February 12th, which, what is that, folks? Is that Wednesday night? Wednesday night, yeah.

Wednesday night in Morinville. And they can get, where do they go, folks, to grab tickets or do they just show up? Maybe we just, quick details on that again, Sean, or. Yeah, so you just show up at the door. So the poster will be at the NCI site. You know, if you need to have a good look at it to get the address, you just show up at the door. So there's no, there's no, you don't need tickets. There's no requirement to come in.

I can tell you, I've watched Commissioner Drysdale Lecture. He's extremely engaging. Like you'll be glad that you came. And you're going to get pumped up for these hearings that are happening in Edmonton on March 6th, 7th and 8th. And subscribe to the NCI newsletter. So you go to the NCI site and there's a place where you can subscribe to our newsletter and we'll let you know when you can get tickets. Tickets are free. We just ask for donations at the door.

But we do need to control how many people come because we have limited space and the inquiry is a court. So you can't just barge in and out. We need to know who's coming and, you know, we need it quiet and respectful in the room for the witnesses. Well, one more time, February 12th in Warnville at the Multicultural Center, people can go to the website to find out more information. It's pretty simple. If you just search National Citizens Inquiry, it's going to pop up. But that is right away, it's a fundraiser to help. One of the things about the National Citizens Inquiry is it isn't funded by government. As far as I know, you three would know this better than anyone. I don't think you got Justin Trudeau and the Liberals funding it.

I see a bunch of laughter, but one of the big things about this is that it's regular, everyday citizens, ensuring that this continues to proceed, which I, you know, is a testament to the three of you and others, because I already know you, you know all the people in the background making this work. Teresa was in and out at the start of this before we got rolling. I'm sure that you can talk to the people that help allow this thing to continue. and then the importance of a fundraising dinner to help cover some of the costs of things going on. Yeah, absolutely. And it's not just going to be fundraising.

I mean, that's why we're there. But, you know, we're going to be speaking about the NCI for folks who maybe have a lesser understanding of what it's about. We're going to talk about what it was about. We're going to talk about what we did in 2023, what we did in 2024 and what we're continuing to do. And we're going to tell some real human story. You know, this national citizens inquiry, it's really a Canadian effort, and it's typically Canadian. You know, we don't have big corporate funding. We don't have government grants.

We're being financed by everyday Canadians, you know, who are donating a dollar or $10 or $1,000, whatever they can afford. And in typical Canadian way, it's really a family thing. It's a grassroots thing, you know. You're going to see, you're going to hear the stories that I can tell you about what happened during the hearings, you know, the intense emotions that witnesses had, you know, because at that time, no one was speaking publicly. So these brave souls, we had over 300 witnesses in the 2023 hearings, which were held over 24 days of hearings from coast to coast in Canada. And, you know, these people came out for the first time. You know, everyday folks like you and I, I saw an article in the paper just the other day about how a certain delivery company had lost their case in court about firing people

who refused to get the vaccinations. So they lost that court case just recently. And there was a fellow from that company who testified in the 2023 hearings about what they had done to him and how he had lost his job. You know, so the National Citizens Inquiry is creating a resource, an encyclopedia, if you will, of what happened in Canada, as told by everyday Canadians. Plus, we had over 100 expert witnesses come out, world-renowned doctors, geneticists, researchers, practicing doctors, folks who came out and told heartbreaking stories. So we're going to relate that to you on Wednesday night. It's going to be an emotional night.

You know, you're going to hear what happened to your neighbors. You're going to be reinforced about what your thoughts were about what happened. And you're going to see about what is still happening. You know, we are still injecting our children with these MRNA biological treatments. And other places in the world, Britain, Sweden, Denmark, Mark, I believe the United States is soon going to be, if they haven't already, discontinue the use of these MRI vaccines. And Canada is still giving them.

As a matter of fact, we still have lockdowns in Manitoba. I'm not sure about Alberta, but I can tell you from my own experience, I want to own family experience, I have a sister who is in the hospital right now, and they locked her down a few days ago because someone had some kind of a test. And again, if you read the NCI report, you're going to find out that that testing is completely flawed and unreliable. And yet they're still doing it. They're still injecting our children. And we're going to talk on Wednesday night about why that is and what can be done about it.

What can everyday Canadians do about it? Oh, sorry, Ted. No, fire away. Well, I was just going to comment on Ken's opening comments. He talked about how the hearings in Vancouver last fall were sobering. And I would suggest it was even harder than that. It was disturbing. I think the room that was probably not a person in the room that wasn't moved to tears many times throughout those three days.

Because what we heard is happening to our kids is just debt-wrenching. And I thought I knew a lot. And I came away from those three days of hearings, surprised, shocked, saddened, and determined that we, We need to do more. We need to do more to protect our children. We need to do more to protect the authority of parents. We need to support parents because there is a cultural shift that is undermining our families to the detriment of the health of our society.

And it's not just the physical health, it's the emotional health, the psychological health, the spiritual health. And so, you know, I've said a number of times now when I'm asked to speak that I think that if the history of this time is proper, properly written, the NCI will be recognized as one of the most important events of this time. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the first, the Vancouver hearings not only spoke about vaccines and schools and parental rights, but there was also a story told my husband and wife, the Stephans, about how they had run a fall of government policy and what the government had done to them. Sean, do you want to just take a minute,

and speak shortly about what happened to that poor couple. Yeah, well, it's interesting. So, I mean, most of your viewers, Sean, will remember this was, this was national news. It was international news. I remember my aunt was on a cruise through the Panama Canal and sent home newspaper clipping's front page about this Canadian trial that's being reported on in Panama. Well, it was being reported internationally because it was a vaccine show trial. So this is the couple that the media, and this is back, you know,

I think the first trial was, I don't know, it was 2016. So I do know the first trial, 2016. So this is the couple that the mainstream media was saying their child died of bacteriomatigitis. And, you know, they were basically treating the child with, you know, maple syrup and stuff like. Like it was just, they were just ridiculing the parents. And there were two trials. So the first trial they were convicted and this goes all the way up to Supreme Court of Canada. said this was an outrageously unfair trial and they ordered a new trial and then they were acquitted.

And I'll just share with you how deceptive the media was. So because at both trials, there was a finding of fact the child didn't have bacterial meningitis, but yet the media is reporting for years. This child died of bacterial meningitis. But you know what the media didn't report is that the chief medical examiner for Alberta, and there's like a tape. There's 911 tape. There's a The couple are, they live rurally and they're in a vehicle driving to meet the ambulance because their child has stopped breathing. And the 911 people are coaching the mother doing CPR in the back while the dad's driving as fast as he can go to meet this ambulance. And we can hear the child. We can hear the child coughing.

We can hear the child wheezing. We also have an earlier call where we can hear. It's everyone knows the exact sound. And the chief medical examiner who's a world expert on this says this child's got group and is having problems with aspirations. Will they get to the ambulance? And this is what the mainstream media didn't tell you. So Alberta Health Services that takes over control of the ambulances in southern Alberta. And prior to that, there's three main ways to get in airways.

So if somebody can't breathe, there's kind of three different mechanisms with different equipment that, that you used to get an airway. And the ambulances were fully stocked. So if they had somebody who was just born that day to somebody who was 100 years old, they had all of the equipment, all three sets. But Alberta Health Services made the decision, let's take out of the ambulances in southern Alberta,

all three ways to get an airway for anyone under the age of 12. And this was the situation for a full year. And we had two ambulance attendants crying on the stand, how they were begging with management, you have to restock the ambulances because the first child we get who needs an airway is dead. And that first child, it appears, was Ezekiel Stefan. And it was a full eight minutes and 38 seconds without them even doing the ambulance guys even doing CPR. So not a whiff of air in or out for eight minutes and 38 seconds on a child who's already compromised. And this is the parent's fault.

let's charge them criminally by making up some narrative that the child died of bacterial meningitis. So, I mean, it's just it was outrageous and their testimony is compelling. Sorry, I got a little emotional on that one. Well, it is emotional. Yeah, you can't participate and you can't watch the videos from NCI without becoming emotion. You know, and that's one story. You know, and we have stories like that through the initial hearings. In my opinion, Alberta Health executed a lady because she refused to take the COVID vaccine.

Sorry for calling it a vaccine. It's a biologic. They refused to take the experimental COVID biologic treatment. And they denied her a transplant. And she died waiting for a transplant, trying to go to the United States and having to raise money to go there. And all of that, that all happened, not at the beginning of the, of the, the whole COVID issue. It happened in the fall of 2022,

when they knew or ought to have known that those COVID-19 biologics didn't prevent spread. They weren't effective in stopping infection. As a matter of fact, one of the first, one of the most significant side effects of giving the first COVID biologic is an infection of COVID. And so we have stories like that.

We have stories, you know, things that the press aren't telling you. We had in Vancouver, Irvin's student testified about what happened in the schools. And he identified three baskets of children. And he claims that around 100,000 children never went back to school and finished their schooling because of the lockdowns. And I questioned him on that. And I said, what exactly what do you mean for that? And he said that essentially when a child was in grade 11, sometimes in 10,

11 and 12, and then they were locked out of school for two years. A lot of them just went to work, and they never went back. And so we've got, in his estimation, somewhere around 100,000 children that in 224 or 2025 will never have a high school education. And nobody's talking about that. You know, the education system's not doing anything about that. You know, and the NCI is documenting it, and we're putting it forward to the public here. here's the knowledge here's the information you now have now that you know you are compelled to do

something about that you're compelled to get involved with the school boards you know i i'm thinking again about somebody who testified in vancouver who was was was sexually assaulted many times as a child and she went to the doctors i think when she was a little bit older when she was i think either in her I think it was in her 20s. And of course, she was looking to try to, you know, prevent what had happened to her from ever happening again. Well, the doctors suggested that she become a man. And so she went through that surgery.

And now she's, I believe she's in her 40s, and she's transitioned back as best she can to being a woman. But it emphasizes how these programs have gotten out of control. You know, instead of trying to counsel a person who's been sexually assaulted to deal with that sexual assault, oh, we'll make it so they can't assault you again, we'll make you into a man. You know, instead of looking at the evidence and admitting that Alberta Health had made mistakes about stalking the animals, they attack these people and the Marxist media in Canada attack them as well. By the way, media that you're paying for. So, you know, when we say that if you look at these videos and you watch, not all of them, just pick some out and we've, we've structured these things so that they're very user friendly. But if you look at these things and you start to understand what's going on in our country and what is still going on and how Canada is steadfastly continuing on the same path that it's been on for the last number of years,

Well, those other countries around us are understanding what's happened and they're starting to change. You know, some countries aren't giving these MRI shots. You've got things revolution happening south of the Canadian border with our largest trading partner and a country that we're the closest to. And yet we have this incredible encyclopedic reports on what's happening in Canada. And we need to get that out. We need people to support us and we need people to start getting this and handing it into their neighbor or their brother or their teacher and getting involved in school boards. It's up to you folks. Wouldn't you, you know, I hate to bring it back to sports, folks.

But, you know, the Super Bowl just happened. And I always am curious about that because, you know, it's like this event that's almost larger than life, if you would. And certain people pointed out different things that happened during the show and everything else. But one of the things, if I bring up a little closer to home about hockey, everybody says you got to see, you know, when I was growing up, it was probably Steve Eisenman was my top, and then Sidney Crosby, and now it's Connor McDavid. You get the point.

You got to see them live because there's just something special about being in the building. And as a hockey player, I completely understand. When I listen to you three talk about it, I've watched the NCI online. I've watched interviews that are gut-wrenching, if you would, online on the website and you know and and listen to some different things but what i'm getting at 83 is that there's something different about being in the building and seeing it firsthand that you just you just can't forget am i wrong in what i'm picking up there or would you push on people to

you know like is that one of the reasons maybe the that you keep going with this right like because you got the like ken you've been on the podcast you've talked about the encyclopedia and how you've got all these different sections and you know and and it's just it's a wonderful resource but when you attend in person I'm getting this idea that you can never turn away you can never go back and something is going to change in you i i oh ted do you address that well i was just going to say it's a life transforming event and and one of the messages that we've been delivered is just watch three testimonies and and you'll be changed and you'll be hard pressed to stop at three. I mean, the room is is electric with the testimony, but the quality of the people that are

there, when you get a chance to actually shake, you know, Dr. Charles Hoff's hand or these, these courageous people that have stepped forward over the last few years and spoken the truth, you know, you're in awe of people that show that courage, that leadership, that moral code. and you can't help but be impacted by it. I'd also add gods in the room, it seems. Like, it just seems to be orchestrated, Sean. I think you're coming to the Edmonton hearings, and you'll see what I mean.

So there's just, there's something that happens at the event. And I'm not trying to discourage anyone who can't come. Like, please watch online. It is electrifying. We will be live streaming on March 6th, 7th, and 8th. And if you can't watch, it will be fairly quickly, just like the whole day. We won't have time to break out every witness's testimony. You have to just go where you will and watch the whole day or fast forward.

So please watch online. It'll captivate you. But there is something about being in the room and just the spontaneity, what happens, you know, the mistakes, the problems. Yeah, I hope this doesn't sound stupid. But I'm like, I'm like not hesitant to. But I listen to that and I'm like, oh, man. I sit and listen to you three talk. Everybody knows what I do.

I do this on a daily. I talk to all these people. And it helps that. I have young kids. It helps the weekends. I try and turn my phone off and just like act like the world is sane. And I can go to a hockey tournament and eat a burger and watch kids play. And, you know, Teresa and I were talking, Sean, about coming.

And I'm like, oh, man, I'm going to have to be in the right mode when I come to that. And I, because I already know a whole bunch of the stories, right? I've heard, but there's something different about being in, like you say, being in the room. And I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't mean to sound like a guy shouldn't go. I just think you should be in the right frame of mind to walk into the doors. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

Let me give you an example. So Ken was talking about this, you know, lady that needed a transplant. Well, her name is Sheila Lewis. Yeah. And she testified in Ottawa. I'm guessing day two, but I mean, just go to the hearings tab, 2023, Ottawa, you know, in half a minute. You'll find her testimony and you can watch her testimony. And I challenge, so I challenge everyone watching this, whether live or afterwards posted.

If you can watch the testimony of Sheila Lewis and not cry, contact me. Because you'll be the first. And this is just her video testimony, Sean. Like you can't watch your video testimony. And I don't care if you're, you know, or a biker Harley Davidson, Knuckles Dragan on the ground or, you know, some soccer mom, you're going to cry. Now, in that room in Ottawa, which was a full room,

it was a decent-sized room, full room. Sheila's not there in person. She can't attend in person because of her medical condition. The whole room was weeping. Now, you don't get that online. the whole room was weeping with her. Well, I always point back to like when I first changed the direction of this thing, you know, to where it's the NCI live on camera today.

And I think of like Andrew Liebenberg, who's a, you know, in some circles, everybody will know that name around here. And nobody will know. He was talking about medical ethics back in 2021. And he was shaking. It's just when you're in person with somebody, you can't unseeing. things. I think of Brandy Suva, the mom who had the son pass out on a bus ride in rural Alberta because he had a mask on and they were and it was bundled up and he almost died from that. Then she comes in studio and you're like, I don't know how to unsee this. I can't unwire my

brain from it. So I implore people to go. But I also warn them firsthand, you know, like you got to have your heart ready for what's what's about to be unleashed because I assume, you know, like you're talking about Vancouver, Ted. I'm like, I'm like, when you first ask me about coming there, I was like, they're continuing on. What are they got to talk about? And yet I laugh about that because every time I wake up the next week is like, well, there's just more stories.

And the stories aren't getting any better. It's not like, oh, the government's doing these great things. It's like, nope, there's some awful stuff happening again here in Canada. Well, yeah, you're right. And it's, and it's an evolving animal. You know, this is like an octopus with a thawful. arms when we did the initial hearings in 2023 the criteria for us as commissioners was to take the testimony of i think over 300 witnesses and some of those testimonies were hours long and use those

transcripts which we did and they're available too on the website so you can watch the video you can watch the transcripts you can read the report but we were we were charged with putting together a report was based on the testimonies. In other words, we couldn't go off, as commissioners, we couldn't go off and do a whole bunch of independent research and bring in all kinds of stuff. We had to base our report on what the testimony was. And 24 days, 12, 14 hours a day of testimonies still wasn't enough. And so we submitted that report in November of 20, November 28, 2023. And by the spring of 24, a lot of the science had changed. You know, things that were being testified to by some of our experts and were being dismissed by the media and by the medical establishment have all of a sudden

by the spring of 2024 become established fact. And I'm talking about shedding, for instance, and I'm talking about people who did not consent to getting these biological treatments, all of a sudden finding spike proteins in their bodies, which, never consented to. We had geneticists speak about that. We had people who were special specialized in the human biome testify about that. And so we prepared a second report, which didn't necessarily focus only on vaccine issues. But we issued that report in November 28th, again, on 2024, so a year later. And then we've discovered, or partially coming out of those hearings and Regina, we discovered what was going on or we had glimpses of what may have been going on with the

children, not just about vaccines and school safety, but toxins in the environment. You know, we found out about the more standard vaccines and the schedule of vaccines and what that was done. We found out about fluoridation and water. We found out about sexualization of the children. We found out about trafficking of the children. So this was the next step for us. And again, we're in the process of writing that significant report now.

But you know, there's an unending amount of these stories. And we talked earlier about Sheila Lewis. And she wasn't the only one. There was a 30, I think he was 35 or 36-year-old man by the name of Garnet Harper, who was executed in a similar way, in my opinion, where he needed a transplant of kidneys, kidneys that were damaged, by the way, allegedly, by the treatments he was getting for diabetes, childhood diabetes, and they allegedly damaged his kidneys.

And then they refused to give him a kidney transplant. And he died in the hospital, leaving behind a wife and children, a whole family. And so these aren't just necessarily one-ofs. They might be one-of in our report. But I'm hoping that one of the things that these reports and these testimonies, do is when you hear about somebody like Sheila Lewis or you hear about the Stephans, that maybe the citizens start to look into these things and they will find more. You know, we just had so much room and so much time to report on so many things. These are not one-ofs folks. These are things

that are happening from coast to coast in Canada. They're continuing to happen. You know, our friends down south seem to be turning their ship around whether you agree with it or not but they're seeming to address some of these issues about children sexualization and trafficking and drugs the things that our government seems to have their head in the sandbone and it's time for the citizens to pick this up and demand that their government right down to the municipal level right down to the school board letter demand action show up and demand action and you can hold the ncii in your hand and say here can can i just jump in because to me the most important thing that um shan that i think is just tragic right now in canada and it's already been mentioned that we're still injecting children with this covid 19 vaccine which

you know if your audience isn't aware watch my testimony at the ncii in quebec city we change The vaccine has never been proven to be safe or effective. It was exempted. In fact, you know, the pharmaceutical companies didn't even have to submit safety data to get approved. It's right in the order. It's crazy. So all this public messaging, they've been proved safe and effective. That was political messaging.

It wasn't actual factual messaging. So here we are. There's basically no healthy child. There's no documented case. no documented case in the world of a healthy child dying of COVID. So, you know, if you have, you know, a child that's severely ill with leukemia or something and dies, and they happen to, you know, test and run the PCR test 40 cycles, go, oh, the kid had COVID. So let's call this a COVID death. No, that's a child who died of leukemia who happened to test positive for COVID, whether that's a

valid test or not. There's not a documented case in the world of a healthy child dying of COVID. But they're sure a whole ton of evidence showing that we are killing and maiming children with these COVID-19 vaccines. Now what Commissioner Drystale didn't say is he says, well, we released our full report on November 29th, 1923. The commissioners were so concerned about the vaccination of children. They issued, they were first in the world issuing an interim report calling for it. you know, the vaccination of children to be immediately stopped until the vaccines are proven to be safe and effective. And I'm sorry, any Canadian parent who doesn't feel that,

their children shouldn't be injected with an experimental treatment until it's proven to be safer effective. We're just going to have to disagree. And I'm going to have to disagree as a criminal lawyer who views that as criminal negligence and or homicide, in my opinion. So now we have the Florida, you know, health official, who comes out second after our commissioners and says we have to stop jabbing kids and florida stops jabbing kids and then we have a few weeks ago dr gary davidson it's a government-sponsored report

so the government asked him and a team of others to put together a report and that government report in canada is calling for the immediate ceasing of injecting of children with covid 19 vaccines And if you want to know why, go and watch the National Citizens Inquiry, many of the authors of that government report testified. So none of this is secret, but, you know, Commissioner Drysdale is the same. People have to get active. Why is it that your viewers are not sending a copy of the interim report calling for the cessation of the vaccination of children to every one of their MLAs? This is a provincial thing. It's not a federal thing.

It's the provinces that are jabbing kids. It's not the federal government. Yeah, and you know, they won't be held to account until we hold them to account. You know, we've got a provincial leadership race going on right now in Manitoba. And I went to, in November, I went to a speech being given by one of the candidates, one of the two candidates running for the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party in Manitoba. And I had my little hand up and they avoided me for the longest time. And when it was my turn to speak, I asked him point blank.

I said, this is a simple yes or no question. I said, if you become leader of the party and eventually the Premier of Manitoba, will you undertake a judicial review? And that was the issue with one of the reports, the report that Sean was referencing. It was an Alberta report, but they did not have subpoena capability. So when they went to get the evidence from Alberta, and a number of other places, Alberta Health refused to give it to them because they didn't have

subpoena power. But in any case, getting back to my story, I said to this leadership candidate, who by the way said he got involved in politics because he saw what was going on during the COVID-19 issue. And so I said to him, will you commission, if you become Premier of Manitoba, immediately commissioned a judicial review of exactly what happened in Manitoba during the pandemic. And you can imagine I did not get a yes or no answer. I got skating around in a circle and they don't really know. And so until people stand up at these things like I did and stand up in their school boards and stand up in their municipal councils and stand up in the province that start to say,

we need to find out what the heck happened here. We not only need a judicial inquiry in my personal opinion, but we needed a police inquiry, which we've been calling for now for, oh gosh, two years, two and a half years. And the RCMP are playing can't hear, can't see, can't speak on that issue. So folks, one of the messages I want to get across, and something that I'm going to be talking about on Wednesday night is NCI has created this resource for you. It's something you can stand on. It is the truth.

It is without bias. It is without influence. It was prepared by your neighbors and your neighbor's neighbors and the members in your church or your baseball league. They were all involved. You know, they testified. They volunteered. But now that that's done, it won't make the change itself. You have to pick it up and you have to demand that the government respond to it.

You know, there is a judicial inquiry going on right now in Britain or with regard to this whole thing. And I don't know how many millions and millions of dollars it's costing. And I know it's been talked about and played back and forth for a year or two now. And it's, I don't know how far it's gotten. But, you know, in Canada, with volunteers, we produced a 5,342 page report. The first of its kind in a world. And it didn't cost taxpayers a darn thing. But it's the most effective and the most comprehensive accounting of what happened, who was responsible, and what effect it not only had on your neighbors and yourself and maybe your elderly parents and your children, but also what effect it had on the country.

You know, we examined financial issues. We examined spiritual issues. We examined societal issues. We examined societal issues. We examined societal issues. We examine. We examine. We examine. and dozens and dozens of different issues. And so, again, I recognize that a 5,342-page report is a little intimidating. But it's reasonable. So first of all, let me say it's like it's the most important report in the world today. Because it is unbiased. You know, you read a government report. Let's read the Emergencies Act report.

You tell me there's not government bias there. And, you know, you read it in contrast. to the court decision on it and tell me it's like Sesame Street, one of these things isn't like the others. So you show me one government report that basically isn't there to get an opinion that the government wants it to. But the NCI has no attachments. It truly is just a whole group of citizens that got together. And that report is so professional. Those four commissioners were left alone. So, you know, all the commission all the volunteers that you know got together to put the hearings on we couldn't talk to the commissioners about then ken's nodding like so these four

people we appointed it was just up to them we didn't know what was going to happen and they come up with a report you there's no bias at all and and when he says five thousand pages a lot of that is is transcripts I mean it's only like 600 or six hundred or six hundred and sixty four pages of but but the thing is it's organized so let's say you were you were interested in education in kids. Well, there's a section on that and it's very manageable and it's and there's like a summary section on it. Like so the commissioners have made it. So it's not daunting. If you're interested in, well, what happened economically literally in 10 minutes. You've got a pretty good idea. And then if

you're interested, there's a deeper analysis. And if you're really interested, there's the evidence under oath the transcripts. So you see, it's kind of layered, but it's structured so that wait, if I want to use this as a resource or learn on a topic, like, in 10 minutes you're there. So don't, don't you'd be surprised at how accessible the commissioners have made their report, even though for those that want to dive deeper, it is as professional as it gets. If I can just add to that, the mantra of the hearings was listen, learn, recommend. And the commissioners put together, is it over 400 recommendations in that first report can? And so this wasn't just about complaining about things. This was a document that said,

based upon the evidence here are the things that we think will help to make Canada better. And that by itself should be gold. What I can't figure it out is why every MP doesn't stand up in their legislature and every MLA and saying there is a fabulous report that has been put together by the NCI. I invite my fellow legislators to read the report, come back and let's talk about it. Well, you know, Ted, I can answer that, actually. And the reason why they have it is they're all culpable in it. You know, whether you were an NDP or a liberal or a conservative, the conservatives were in opposition federally, and they were silent.

Or calling for stricter measures. Yes. And then when you looked at the provincial, because the provincial government, let's not forget them, health is a provincial responsibility. And so here in Manitoba, in my mind and in my opinion, the person, the chief medical officer here in Manitoba, should have been investigated criminally. And instead, and I'm trying not to lose my temper here, but instead, a month or two ago, he got the Order of Manitoba as he retired from public service for what he had done during COVID-19.

So they're doing everything they can, in my opinion, to bolster the things that they did or did not do during the whole pandemic. And so you're not going to get them to do anything unless the Canadian people pick this thing up and start to demand that they do something. And it's the best tool. It's the best tool. Like we have to break the narrative. So, you know, we're seeing south of the border. They're breaking the narrative.

And they're saying, wait a second. All these things that were literally forbidden to say, they are now starting to say. Well, in Canada, our biggest issue is COVID. and how we're not, we're still not having an honest discussion about it, your most credible resource. I mean, if we're going to call people to account, I mean, that public health officer, I haven't looked into the Manitoba one,

but, you know, in my opinion, this is opinion, I would be surprised if after a proper police investigation, every single public health official during COVID shouldn't be incarcerated. That's my personal opinion as a, you know, I practiced criminal law for decades. I look at the law, criminal negligence and homicide and my understanding on how dangerous these vaccines are and how misleading the messaging was. In my opinion, this is a personal opinion, I can't see any public health official during COVID if the police were doing their job and if the courts were doing their job

and if the Department of Justice were doing, you know, what in my opinion is their job. that won't be in jail. So, well, you know, and it's not, I don't think we should have a spirit of vengeance, but we have to have a demand for truth. You know, like what was it two weeks ago, Constable Gruse and Ontario is being, you know, crucified again. I have a prediction. And this will be the first time I air at Public.

I have a prediction that if Canada turns around the narrative, the Constable Gruse will become the police commissioner of Ontario. But it's up to you to make that happen. Well, you know, that particular case is a really interesting one, Sean, because do you know that Ontario, the province of Ontario, has now changed their police act so that officers can no longer independently start investigations, which is what they've always done. But in response to officers' grew situation, the province has now changed the police act.

I mean, this is incredible. And it keeps happening. And the only thing to stop this, folks, this is my opinion, is not necessarily start new parties, because we've got a lot of those in Canada, believe it or not. You just never hear about them. The solution is for people to start getting involved grassroots at their school boards, at their municipal, at their provincial, and that will make a difference. I guarantee it.

Yeah, stop complying. Like, stop being silent. It only works. I mean, let's go to the police state ritual of identity papers. Just to give you an example. And I lived in Alberta, so I can't vouch personally for the other provinces. But in Alberta, we had this police state ritual where if you got two shots of the COVID-19 Vax, you would get special identity papers from your state.

We called them vaccine passports, but a pass. passport is an identity paper and these are identity papers. They're to identify you as a specific class because now we're divided into classes by our masters. And for essential services, you could, you didn't need these special identity papers. But if you wanted to go, let's say, to a restaurant or you wanted to go watch your child's hockey game, you had to show these identity papers. Well, do you understand, like first of all, Well, Sean, before I point out that this could only happen with our participation, the police state, we are the police state. I think people need to understand that when police states have you show identity papers, it has nothing to do with what they say.

Like in this case, it was for public health so that we could contact trace. That's like that's almost, that's funny actually. So when you're free, like so before this happened, we were free to go to restaurants. We were free to go to hockey games. So, you know, you didn't have, you didn't need anyone's permission. That's how you knew you were free. Like, oh, heck, we didn't take anything out of the freezer. Let's go out for supper.

Or, you know, honey, I feel like Mexican. Let's go out for supper. The only decision is, is do you want to do this? Do you want to? That's when you're free. Now, we lost that freedom. And police states like taking your freedom away. And the best way to do that is to change your thinking.

And the best way of changing your thinking is these identity papers. Remember, they want to bring in these digital IDs, so we're presenting them all the time. Sean, they want us to scan our ID to get into grocery stores. That's why stores like Superstore and Canadian Tire, they have turnstiles when you go in. Well, why? You've opened the doors already. You had to do that to get in. Why are these turnstiles that open automatically for you?

It's to condition you for so that's not much of a change when you have to scan your ID to get in. So here's how it works with identity papers. It conditions you mentally. Every time you show the papers, you're going through a ritual and you're basically subconsciously demonstrating yourself, I am not free to go to my child's hockey game. I'm not free to go to a restaurant. I have to go through this ritual. So I have to show my identity papers.

If I perform the ritual properly for my master, because I need my master's permission now, then my master can grant me permission. And it reinforces subconsciously. Understand identity papers are there to reinforce subconsciously that you're not free. You know, like in Stalinist, Russia or Nazi Germany, when they decided, oh, let's throw up a roadblock at a major intersection for a week.

And so you had to show your identity papers to go from the south of the city to the north. Do you really think for a minute they cared in any way that you were going from one part of the city to another? They knew where you lived. If they were coming for you, they'd come in the middle of the night when you're asleep. They don't need to know that you're going. It's there to reinforce that ritual, that you're not free to go without their permission. And in you performing that ritual, you are reinforcing, you are telling them they're your master and you're telling yourself you're their master.

And worse, for all of us that performed in this abomination, you showed your kids that the state was your master. You taught our children that the state was their master and that we as Canadians are not free to go to restaurants without our master's permission. And we as Canadians are not free to go to hockey games without our master's permission. Our master isn't requiring this right now. But we've done an awful thing. But the point I was starting with is that was only possible because Canadians did it.

There weren't enough police to go and do it. It was the employers. It was the stores. It was the hockey rinks. And we have to stop that bullshit. Sorry for me saying that we have to stop that bovine excrement. because they're going to try again. And if we don't comply, if the hockey rinks say no and the stores say no and the restaurants say no, it all falls apart.

It only works because you've complied. And so you have to educate yourself and you have to put pressure. We've learned from the MLAs, the provincial MLAs, that the citizens were demanding more restrictions. No wonder they put restrictions on us. It was politically popular. It's what people want it. You have to be that the voice, the counter voices saying that you don't want it. Like you have to participate or we're locked.

Yeah. And it shouldn't be lost that this is not just during COVID. This is going on now. You know, where parents are shushed out of school board meetings. You can't find out anymore what the curriculum is that they're teaching in your child's school. They're taking away the responsibility. or the right of parents to be able to decide what medical procedures your children get. I mean, goodness gracious, in Manitoba, I can't speak for Alberta or the rest of the country,

but in Manitoba, if you get pulled over at 9 o'clock in the morning for a speeding ticket, you have to take a breathalyzer. Where is the probable cause related to you having to take a breathalyzer and give a medical sample to a police officer with no probable cause that you've been drinking or under the influence? And people just went along with it. Saskatchewan's the same way, Ken. Yeah. I got pulled over a few months ago on a Sunday afternoon.

And I'm asked the officer, I'm like, was I speeding? It's like, nope, my headlight out, something out, nope. Just a random traffic stop. And I can pull you over what I want, make sure you're not drinking. I'm like, oh, well, I'm not. But I mean, I don't think that's the point. I don't think that's the point. Yeah, breathe into this too.

You don't have a choice. You know, and this is going on all over in all kinds of ways. and it's actually accelerating. I'm also involved in issues with regard to municipal politics or municipal governance, I guess, would be better putting it. And the things that are coming off in that, with these restrictions in development and the restrictions in access into your cities and with restrictions into whether or not you can park a car here in Winnipeg, now they're taking up parking locks and shopping centers and putting up apartment

buildings. And they're reducing parking in the downtown zone so you can't. bring your car into Winnipeg, you know, a small prairie city with three quarters of a million people living in it. And carbon credits and carbon charges and all these things are just raining in on you where some parts of the world, like our southern neighbors, are now reversing course and getting rid of that. And yet, we're doggedly going forward. And frankly, I really don't hear any relief coming from the opposition, even though they're running on comments and things, but they're not talking about removing these

crazy restrictions and getting involved at that level. One of the things that I, you know, like going to what Sean was saying, and I think both of you, Ken and Ted, are pointing to as well, is people needing to get involved. And one of the ways to feel confident when you're involved is to pick up things like the National Citizen, the NCI reports to you know like i i don't know sitting in this chair i've i've you know you talk to enough people that's what i do for a living is you just talk to people so you you know there's a level of confidence that goes into different conversations and that isn't right right and if you don't know

one of the things about the ncii that will give you the tools is is that report and as shons uh pointed out as ken when you were in lloyd i don't know how long ago that was that was a while back now is the one thing about it is you want to learn about something just flip to it it's not like uh i don't know forgive me folks lord of the rings or something where you got to start page one and read to the end you know it's it's like what section do you want to learn up on go read about it and it doesn't the other thing you know going back to the report that dr gary davidson did you know because it was 200 and i forgive me 54 64 somewhere in there is don't act like you got to do it overnight. Like you, you can take a little piece at a time and get through it. And I would,

you know, as much as I told people a few weeks ago, like if you're Albertan, it's on you to read this. If you're Canadian, it's probably on you to read it. The NCI is the same way. And I'm saying that as much to myself now as to anyone else, because I picked it up in different parts, but I've never actually done the legwork to go through it piece by piece, Ken, or any of you. And probably that's something all of us Canadians should do because it's sitting there free to do. And once you have that, now you can walk into so many different situations

and not only be involved, but feel confident in the things you're saying and talking about to help implore other people to do the same thing. Well, you're right. And you know, we actually recorded a video that's on our Rumble channel where I go through how to use the report,

you know, how to download it, and how to go through the sections and just pick out to begin with some of the things you're most interested in and then building on that base. And Sean, I don't know if you can give them the address for our Rumble Channel. I can't, but you'll be able to access it through National Citizens Inquiry.ca. And just, you know, like I'm, maybe it's an age thing, but I like the paper copy. You can order off our website for cost paper copy. So they're not expensive. And, you know, they're really well done with, you know, photos and beautiful cover and wonderful index.

So that's how I do it is, you know, I'm a paper guy. I'm a book guy. So for those of you that want to view it electronically, you can download it for free. Put it on your computer, put it on your device, read it at your will. For those of you that want a hard copy, we're just selling it for cost. So in fact, it's just printed when you order it and drop shipped to you. So, yeah, so we've tried to make it as accessible as possible, free electronically, and then just that cost for it to be printed and drop shipped to you.

Yeah, well, as you're talking, I got it up on screen. Essentially, you know, National Citizensinquiry.ca is where you can find all this. One of the things I've always been impressed with with the NCI is the website. It's like, you want anything? It's probably hiding in there somewhere. And everything's on there from all the hearings and on and on and on. And so people can find that at national citizens inquiry.ca. So, Sean, just looking at that, you know, so you can see there's a tab about NCI hearings.

So it's the third tab, 2024 and 2023 hearings. So just maybe go to 2023. And you see there's a drop down for every city. And so that takes you to a separate page where you can either watch the full day or select the different witnesses and there's summaries about what the witnesses say. So if you click on Rodney Palmer, the first witness, it'll take you to his page. I'm delayed. Oh, okay. So anyway, it's delayed, but it'll take us to his page.

And there'll be a bio of him. There'll be a link to the video. There'll be a transcript of his evidence. And if there's any exhibit centered, they will be there. It's, you know, we're not there yet for the Vancouver hearings because it just takes a little bit of time. It's either that, Sean, or the Assisis is actually watching us right now. And they're like, you're not going to show this. And, you know, I hate to put that out there.

But usually they don't interfere with the website. Don't get me started. By the way, I do want to point out that this Wednesday night at 7 p.m., We're going to have copies, hard copies of both reports available. And I will sign them if you want to have one of the authors. How much is a hard copy worth, Ken? Sean. I don't even know.

I'd have to go holler at Teresa. Well, they're not expensive. No, and it's broken up into like 13 volumes, I believe. And the first two volumes, sorry, the first volume itself is an explanation really about what the NCI was, what we did. Volume two is all of the analysis, discussions, conclusions, recommendations, message to Canadians. And then volume three is the transcripts. So there's like 13 volumes. I can't remember what they are.

I think they're like $30 for the first two volumes and then probably $20 or $30 each after that. At the end of the day, I just, you know, a ballpark figure. It's perfectly fine. If people are showing up, they know to. I think they're about $30 each for, for, you know. each of the volley of something like that well my my brain's going i'm like can i get to mournville wednesday because i'm like you know this this little bookshelf behind me he's got some really important books in there and i'm like you know what look really good in there is the ncii

commissioners report right like i'm like as i'm listening to me that's just i should probably just do that so we're going to make that happen um for emminton okay i want to um i want to spend a few minutes here before i don't know how much time i i stopped looking at the time so i'm I hope I'm not running over anyone. But what is that sound? That's not me. Well, Ted's got his hands up. It's something on his side.

Cesis is up to something new. Eminton. Eminton is coming up here in March. What is, I don't know, how much can you talk about who's coming? How much can you talk about some of the things you're not hoping to find out but you think could be in the testimonies there you know with the emminton hearings just let's focus on that for a few minutes sure okay so um so we're in the process of you know confirming with witnesses and we do not you know announce them until everyone's confirmed and we've kind of got a tentative

schedule um but we may have um a very important witness come that can speak to us about what's happening south of the border with Maha and then also, you know, basically on on childhood health issues. We just secured the other day an international expert on bullying in kids who's going to explain to us what bullying is and how it happens and what strategy, surprisingly, that you think would work, that we've implemented widespread, you know, that the research is now showing they don't work. and, you know, what parents can do. I think kind of, like, sky's the limit. We're going to have medical evidence again.

We're going to have food evidence. We may have, we're still going to try and follow up again today, a family with just an incredible story, kind of journey about child mental health and what happened there. So we're still trying on, on the maid issue. We are trying to get some expert witnesses on addiction to social media and gaming. It's there again, we have a complete culture change.

So, yeah, so it's always, it's such a broad topic. It brings us into areas we, you know, that kind of keep surprising me, right? So, but we are short on lay witnesses. So, Sean, you know, if there's anyone out there that their child is addicted to, you know, gaming or social media or you know has gone through this struggles with transitioning or anything like that um please have them apply to the national citizens inquiry there's a witness intake form because what and we often have this worry is sometimes we feel that we might be expert heavy where we want to balance because it's the stories of ordinary canadians and their journeys

that really impact us i mean i was thinking of one of the witnesses in vancouver was a mother named Tamara Maine. And, you know, her daughter literally was suicidal. She kept having to take her daughter to the emergency ward. And she couldn't get any help from the medical system to treat underlying mental illness issues that most of us in hearing the story would view as being connected to parental abandonment by her father. And then the social workers get hold of her basically alienate the daughter from the

mother get the daughter moved out to a different province and now that daughter is is transitioned to a male and has nothing to do with the family um and it's gut wrenching it's like it's kind of like you know the mother story um and she's clearly you know a mother that was involved in trying to help her child and like that's the type of story we want so if you know you're a parent out there or you're a childhood struggle. I mean, we'd like to hear about, you know, what's it like to have boys in your, in your washroom? Because, you know, we had a, we had a witness in Vancouver who explained, you know, well, when she went through school before that, you know, there were times where the female bathroom was the only safe space in the school, but it wouldn't be a safe space with, you know,

men in there. So, yeah, like, so sky's the limit, Sean, on what we want to cover. But we definitely need some more lay witnesses because we want to have that balance. Well, then I'll just add if people are watching this, then once again, go to the website National Citizensinquiry.ca, because if you know of somebody or you're somebody watching this, that's the easiest way to get in contact with everybody. Certainly, if you're listening on the podcast, you can always text me too, and I can guide you to the right spot. But appreciate you guys all coming on.

I got nothing but time this morning. This is what I do. This has been a strange. Somebody said, thanks for having them on. I'm like, well, I don't know. Thank Ken. Because Ken and Teresa are the two that kind of like, hey, can we do this? I'm like, sure, sure we can.

When it comes to you three, you've all been on the podcast, some multiple times. And I got plenty of time for what you folks are doing and continue to do. Is there anything we've been missing here that you want to make sure people know about or things coming up that they should, you know, be on the lookout for. Somebody had asked why we don't have thousands of people watching this. I think that I wonder that from time to time. You know, I would say that it was Natasha Gonic, who's been testified at the National Citizens inquiry.

She was just on, she's like, you've got to be shadow bad and something fierce because I've tried sharing you a ton. My always suggestion is to share this as much as you can, folks, if you're watching and enjoying what's happening, you know, on Twitter, on, on, I guess on X,

on Facebook, et cetera. You know, YouTube, we didn't put it on YouTube today, because I'm like, as soon as the word back, every time I'm on there,

I just seem to get removed. So there's, it's like, what's the point of even going on at this point? I'm not going to self-censor on this subject. And I don't expect any U-3 to as well. So, you know,

when you're, when you're wondering why there isn't more people watching, well, continue to share would be my suggestion. Yeah. It's funny. I think they've written special algorithms for us. We are so shadow banned. And, you know, it was that way at the first set of hearings too. And Sean, what worked was is people like you restreaming us. And people like you putting us out that here's how you can log in. So we'd certainly invite your viewers, like subscribe to our newsletter so you know exactly what's happening. And, you know, if you have the technical capability. So, you know, put out the notices. So like when,

we, you know, are willing to release our witnesses, like we'll do thumbnails for each witness. Hey, you know, like so subscribe to our social media channels. I have to say, though, because we've lost control over the ones we used in 2023, you have to go to the website and subscribe to the ones on there to be getting the notices I'm talking about. So, you know, if we put out a notice of a witness, like let's say just using X, well, you know, retweet that to use the old term. And like, just keep reposting the stuff that we're going to be putting out to generate the excitement and get and get people drawn to the site, but any of you that can restream it on your platforms, that was how we kind of beat the algorithms and the mainstream media ignoring us in

2023. And that's what makes it a community thing, Sean, is actually the only reason it's had the impetus and push it has is because it's the citizens getting around the obstacles and making it happen. And that's what, you know, like it's just an honor. I know I speak for Ken and Ted. It's an honor for all of us. to participate in the NCI because it's grassroots.

I chuckle about this all the time. You know, this is just a short story on the podcast, but you know, like all three of you have been guests on it, right? So in the middle of COVID, you know, like you can imagine how shadow band it was and probably continues to be, I don't know, you hear different stories and you kind of, you know, okay, fair enough. But I can certainly say sitting here, I don't think I've spent, you know, maybe $100 over six years on advertising on the podcast, like actually going out.

and spending my money on social media and everything and it gets shit even when they shadow ban you even when they they pull your stuff from youtube even when you disappear there's the old uh underground railroad road of the media world where it gets shared so much and you always i'm always surprised where it shows up like huh how did you find it over there because these stories although being um uh removed or shadow banned or you know whatever we're going to call it if they seem to show up People have been sharing them far and wide. Yes, John. Well, you know, another thing.

And so, you know, like if I go to my muffler shop, this just, you know, happened the last time my muffler shop. Well, I'm waiting there, and they're streaming CNN on the TV. Like, and there's, even if you're trying to read a book or something, it's interrupting you. And there's a lot of business owners that have TVs in their waiting rooms. Well, why don't you live stream the NCI hearings? And then, you know, you could every. day, we have now like 30 full days of hearings and each day is at least 12 hours. So you could just in the morning pick, you know, Toronto Day 1 and stream that. And the next day, Toronto Day 2. And you

could be getting the NCI out to your customers waiting in the waiting room. And how hard is that for you? Like we need to start being creative on getting the word out. And your customers will just find it riveting. I'm sorry because it's just it's it hooks you. It hooks you. That's the thing is I guess we should have a disclaimer. Don't watch like stop a two witnesses. Don't watch three. You won't want to your marriage. Your kids are going to be mad at you because you're ignoring them and you know, you're not golfing anymore. It destroys your life because it grabs you because you're crying on one witness. You're laughing with another. You're like shocked with the next like all your emotions. And you're doing it in a group and you understand that even though you're not watching it live,

that you're still part of something that's happened and still is alive and happening. And I've got to go soon. I've got to open a different meeting in five minutes. Well, I'll tell you what, then quickly two minutes. You're talking creative ideas and streaming something. And I see Teresa putting a, I'll put it up here on the big screen trees. There you go. There you go.

An NCI-toek. You know, 630 Ched, this is just a, you know, to the hockey fan of me, listen to 630 Ched and they no longer, I think, forgive me, Emmington, if I'm wrong on this. They no longer have that radio station. They moved it to a different thing. I'm like, I should just find out how you get 630 Ched by the channel, however much that cost, which can't be that much. And then broadcast the NCI, among other things, because you think of how much content is there. And you could just, you can just stream it for 365 days. And, and, oh, well, there. There's that one again. Oh, and then you listen to the next one. On the ways. Creative ideas. I'm all for it. Wow. That's really crazy, Sean. That's crazy good.

I don't know. Creative ideas is, I like the thought of putting it on a reel at a business and you walk in and you catch the next interview. And then you catch the next interview. How do you, you know. I need to step out just because I do have to stop. No, appreciate everybody coming in. Thanks again for hopping on this morning. Thanks for everybody tuning in.