Shaun Newman Podcast - #802 - Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Chuck Prodonick is a retired Canadian military sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry. He spent 20+ years in the Canadian military, completed four tours overseas, with deployments in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. Beyond his military service, he spent nine years working in Alberta Correctional Services.Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. I'm joined by Chuck Proudnick today. Chuck, thanks for being back in the studio. Anytime, buddy. Love to be here. We were...

Actually, I don't know. I don't know. How about we start with something fun? I haven't had... We were just joking. Jamie Sinclair. I know you're listening. Shout out to you, big fella.

I promise to the listeners, Jamie will be a part of the next one. This is about as short notice as it gets. And the nice thing about Chuck's proximity to me is I can be like, hey, does this work? Boom, he's here. And if we can both attest when we try and do that with Jamie, Jamie lives a little bit farther away. I'm going to give you a break. He's also busy. Chuck's not very busy most of the time.

There's proximity, and I have, you know, I have the ability to get here and Jamie's a busy fella. And I give Jamie a hard time all the time, like when we're together. I also give Jamie a hard time. And he does definitely draw a target on himself now and then. But like falling asleep on live election coverage? Yeah. Oh, Jamie. But he's, of all the guys I ever served with and worked with in the military,

there are not more than a handful of people that come close to his caliber of warrior that I saw overseas. He's an absolutely unique kind of soldier and an unbelievable human too. He's a little rough around the edges, and that's why I love him. He doesn't give his shit what people think. He's always willing to help anybody out and say exactly what he thinks in the meantime. He's a very rare human. So hopefully next time he's here. Yeah, well, I agree.

I agree. But one of the reasons I was bringing it up is I was looking at, at the calendar and as it says today it's been 55 days 55 days since I had a drop of alcohol and I haven't really actually I know I haven't talked about it on the podcast yet I've been so why haven't you why haven't I talked about it no no why haven't you had any I've thought about this so we started the book club in 2016 mm-hmm and in the first year we did a whole bunch of like corny stuff like one was a vision board except I would argue

and Ken Rutherford was on the podcast on New Year's Eve. And I would argue setting your goals is really important. You can call it what you want. We had a vision board. And it not only all came true, that could come true in the timeframes, but the timeframes shrunk. So I want to be full-time – I always think of the full-time podcast. I want to be full-time podcast. I give myself, you know, like five years.

Let's go five years. You know, it's a long enough goal. I'll figure something out by that. Three years. Yep. Three years. And it was like, oh, right? And then you got to kind of re-update and on.

So in the first year of the book club, one of the things I want to do is I want to take a month off drinking. I was, you know, by that time, 2018, I had two kids and a third on the way. And I was still playing senior hockey. And I was just, you know, I needed some maybe brotherly support to just be like, nope, not letting the guys down. a month. And so back then that was a wild idea. We were like a month. A month. We're going to go a month. And so we went a month. And it was, you know, it was, it's always good to test yourself from what you can do. Yeah. And so I've been thinking about it now for six years. And every year comes and the start of it go and can you do it at any time. Absolutely can. I like it for my brain works on like January 1. It just makes sense. Boom. Not doing it. And so. Mel always teases me at. Christmas time because she knows I start to set my goals. Yeah. And I didn't want to tell her because I'm like,

ah, she's going to be like, you're not going to drink for a year. Not that you'd be like, you need to go party tomorrow. Yeah. And she's like, oh, all right. I'm good with that. I'm like, oh. So it's just something I've wanted to do. I've ran into a ton of people that have done it or are continuing to do it.

I'm like, how can they do that? Like, if they can do that, I can do that. Yeah. And then I watch, you know, like, I don't love Trump. But I'm, he interests me. And I find out he doesn't drink. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. No.

And Tucker Carlson, he doesn't drink. Oh, that's interesting. Sean Ryan, he doesn't drink. I'm like, you know, you can start to see the guys. He doesn't drink anymore. Anymore, but that's what I mean. Yeah. I start to see some of the guys and how they're doing it.

I looked at this year, honestly, with all the stuff I'm trying to pull off. Like, I don't know if I got time. Like I, so it's, it's, there's multiple reasons. You, why are you doing it? It wasn't a conscious thing. Um, necessarily a conscious thing. I,

I kind of, uh, I've been focusing on fitness a lot more in the last eight, nine, 10 months of a year. I'm trying. Trying. It's a lot of,

uh, just straight up testosterone and steroids. I'm kidding. Um, you have to, you have to lift heavy shit and put heavy shit down. Um, and watch what you eat.

calories in calories out, that kind of thing. But, um, drinking. And I'm, stranger to it. I probably could have gone pro in my army days. It's a social thing. We all do it. How many times have we done it with Jamie here or wherever? You know, it just kind of,

he's going to call me tomorrow. Oh, dude. And he's going to let me have it. Oh, man. I still in having this fridge. Yeah. The blue ribbon he brought last time. Yeah. Yeah. So Jamie, when you're listening, when you're coming through Lloyd, you stop in the old studio, you got a place to stay at the Newman residence, and we'll have you on. And you can finish up with something. And you can finish up what's left there. And he will. Yeah, I might have to bring in a partner. He probably won't care. It doesn't matter. He can do it himself. Um, it's just one of those things where, uh, you feel it differently, obviously as you, as you get a little older and as you're trying to focus on other things. You're focusing on your, your, your podcasting and, uh, your family

stuff. And it's not like I, either of us were drinking to ruination or anything like that, but even, but I agree with your sentiment back in my, my earlier years, I could have went pro. You could have gone pro. Yeah. And I think everybody kind of has that tipping point somewhere in their life, not just army guys or hockey players. Anybody who, you know, spent some time partying, you could have probably turned a bad corner. And we maybe everybody does a little bit and you kind of pull back from it, or I hope you do. But, um, it just isn't, even when we, uh, it was New Year's, a buddy mine had a little get together his last time I, and I only had a couple. I had, you know, nothing. It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a,

And even before that, I don't remember last time I really had anything. It's just not the fitter I try to be or the more progress I see, um, the less interested I am in it. And I'm not, it's not that I'm never going to drink again. I haven't gone. I'm not, you know, out here throwing anything at people to, I just isn't, it's not a priority from you right now. It's not a, it's not something I really think. It's not even something I really think about.

That's why it's easy. It's just not something I think. I see progress being made when I lift things up and put it. them down watching a little bit better what I eat I'm like well shit and I know I know I know a lot of that progress is because there's no alcohol going in yeah it's not like I was taking in copious amounts of it it's just there's none going in now you know so it's just one of those you know I'll have a nice scotch here and there if something you know I need to celebrate something I'm definitely gonna pour a nice lag of Oon or

Lefroig or something that I want to drink and have a sip yeah still a big boy I'll do what I want but it's one of those things you talk about setting goals and uh when you're trying to rebuild yourself a little bit or try and uh progress a little bit because we all go through slumps i go through some i know jockle will nick you know i'm no you know up at three 30 yeah the four in the morning whatever this man's getting up and having some inspirational moment that he's got a tweet or instagram or whatever the hell and i'm not knocking a guy like jocco that guy is holy shit i assume though the longer he does it the more it becomes like You can just see everybody around you struggling.

Yeah. And like he, he, uh, he's a man amongst. Oh, he's a beast. He's a beast. Um, and men like him are beast. There's a few like him, uh, Grogans and a few others. There's, they're just on the machines, right? And they are inspirational like, but I'm not that guy.

I'm not, you know, uh, I don't get up at buddy four in the morning to do stuff. I'm disciplined. I am disciplined. When I set my mind to a goal, I'm going to achieve it. I'm going to get that objective. And that's what I've done with, you know, trying to improve certain aspects of my life in the last bit. Because we all go through a slouch. We all go through a slump.

We all kind of coast. And I was doing that. I was going to the gym. I wasn't doing shit. I was kind of hanging. I was pushing weights. I was maintaining at best. I was sliding a lot.

And I got to a point about a year ago where I was like, something's wrong with my t-shirts. They're not fitting right. They must be broken. I'm like, fuck, no, Chuck. It ain't your t-shirts. They're the same freaking t-shirts. you've been wearing for years because some of my t-shirts I've had for years. Um, and I was like, it's me.

I'm slipping. I've slipped a gear and I, I, I evaluated and I said, well, you've really, I bought a home gym, like a Smith machine because part of the gym bro problem is that you're always fighting for a machine. You're always, and honestly the culture overall, you're to, but it's, but it's funny, the little hurdles we set for. Oh, right. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Right? Like on the flip side of it, it's, it's like, uh, you know, what's, what's the motivational side of it? Just get out of bed. You know, you think going to the kids. Oh, yeah. Just get out of bed. Oh, it's like Peterson says, make your bloody bed.

Yeah. Every morning, I make my bed. Start, yeah, that's it. But on the other side, you're like, oh, I've got to fight for a machine. Got to fight for machine. Oh, get your. I'm going to wait for some either, you know, big bow hunk on there who's 400 pounds of, you know, muscle who deserves to be on the machine.

But no, neither does the kid who's 110 pounds. doesn't deserve the machine. You need more even. It's just that you're always, just the culture in the gym, at least the ones I've gone to have irritated me to no end. And I've made excuses not to go or spend as much time. So I thought, fuck it, I'll spend the money. I bought a good Smith machine, the free weights I needed and weights are not cheap.

Like, I don't know if they're made a gold or what the hell. But, um, I found a spot in anything that sells them very cheaply and, um, set up my own thing. And I crush now. I go hard now. Well, here. Here. Well, I mean, Chuck's going to be rich off me, folks.

Yeah, buddy. So one of the things coming in the studio, I say it every time, is, you know, everybody gets one else silver coin from silver gold bull. That stuff has got up a lot. Oh, yeah. Which spot price now? I haven't checked in the last bit, but it's got to be, who, they're pushing high now. Right.

And. I tell you what, what, let me, you keep talking all looking at. We're, look, I've been a, remember last cornerstone we did, and I, me and, um, another fellow had a discussion about physical versus the other, yeah, yeah, yeah. The other medium. And I'm not knocking the other medium. If you're into Bitcoin, fill your boots. Forty, forty six dollars right now. Holy jumping. I remember the first silver I bought at spot was like 19 bucks. And that's not that long ago. That's not that long ago. Gold, gold today is at 40. This is Canadian. Sorry, I should point that out. I was looking at stats. I'm up to almost 20% of listening.

are American. Wow. Think about that. So that's either a ton of Canadians that have left and are still listening, or there's a ton of Americans listening now. I believe both. There's a mix of both, yeah. Anyways, gold's at 4,189 Canadian and as we're recording this, silver at 46 bucks.

That's insane. And look, folks, you can have both, you can do both, you can diversify and have physical and I'm a big believer in the physical, and the big reason I am is, and I've said this before, So I'm going to, I'm going to finish. I'm going to just, I just want to. So last year at the same time, it was $30.76. Cool. So you're up 16 bucks on an ounce of silver.

In a year. In a year. I'm not good at math, but that's a lot. And like gold on the same time frame was, oh man, come on, Sean, 2737. Yeah. And it's up to 4,100. So regardless. The physical side of it to me matters because some of the places in the world I've been.

And just hypothetically, theoretically, if the grid goes down here, if something unplugs here, if the worst were to happen here, even if it's just an economic collapse, you have access with your grubby little fingers and my grubby little hoard of this stuff at home and other locations. to, to have a barterable trader, tradable item that is worse something. I've been to places in the world where this matters, not not saying this, our maple leaf, but a physical thing. Yeah. That isn't a fiat currency, which will mean nothing. And your Bitcoin, if the grid goes down, I, I'm really curious how you're going to access your Bitcoin wallet and do a transaction with it.

I'm not saying don't do it for investment purposes or whatever. Whatever, maybe you disagree. That's fine. Everybody has their own way of doing things. I'm a simple, practical guy. I like the thought of Bitcoin. I do too. I do.

But I also like the thought of silver, gold. I like the thought of a lot of different things. And one of the things that I've certainly grown on is having, you know, a little bit of this and some of that. A little bit of that, right? Like going and selling your house tomorrow and putting it all in the gold, probably not a good idea. Not a, no, no, no, no, no, not a great idea. I, look, and. I get where people are financially these days because we're all feeling it.

We're all taxed into oblivion. Our bills are ridiculous. Like I look at my monthly stuff going free. Well, Mel used to buy, when she was buying groceries when I first got married, come home and I swear groceries lasted two weeks. Now, part of that's kids, and I get it. Like, you know, they're growing little weeds. Like, it's pretty crazy to watch kids and how much they can consume.

But on the flip side, I notice she buys less. But it costs just the same. same, right? Oh, yeah. There's been so much done on receipts and how much, you know, and, and the cost of goods. But it, it's getting to wild proportions right now. I used to watch, because I was one, you'd go to the grocery store, wherever, whether it was, wherever you were doing groceries, and people would have a heaping cart. They do a heaping car. Now I see a basket. Most people are shopping with baskets and just trying to get by. It's, I had, I had my first guest, first, um, first person on the forum

send me a message asking if they can get a refund because they're like, I just can't afford it. I'm like, huh, that's, you know, that really makes, because I mean, like, people are going to say tickets for Cornerstone are expensive, but I have people

wanting me to raise the price because, like, in order to try and break even on this sucker, and I'm not trying to make a case, I'm not trying to sing a sad song here, folks. just like to put on anything it's like all right before you do anything else just food alone for this sucker is like

a hundred and some dollars a person oh yeah yeah and that's me trying to nickel and dime the crap out of Calgary well and as some I went as a guy who's at your last one um for the folks who are listening who are on the fence about it or wondering about it it um look it was an amazing event I have rarely experienced something that positive in that kind of a a dynamic before, like ever.

And you had guys like, again, Tom Luongo, who I love listening to, um, on anything. The guy just, he just has a way of approaching any subject where you're like, not only is he informative, he's entertaining too. Like I like listening to the guy. Um, he's just a good all round speaker, um, and a hell of a poet. Um, you didn't come to, he was a hell of a way. Tom Luongo, right? Geopolitics.

Yeah. on and on and on, open the Cornerstone Forum last year, folks, if you didn't come, and you, and you haven't seen the videos with, with poetry. And it was like, so fitting. I mean, it just set the, the temple for the game. And it was good. I'm ribbon on Tom. You know, we've been on your show once or twice before when Trump got hit shot and all that stuff. And I, I love talking to the guy. I love listening to the guy. He's just, I love, if I could pick his brain for days, I would just, just because. But you had other amazing guests, the fellow from, I don't, I'm horrible with names, probably all the alcohol.

And, um, but, uh, the felly had from who does like relocating people in their wealth. Mikel Thorup. Oh man, that guy. Just a absolute genius in his field and something to listen to. You know, this year is going to be interesting because like, we just had Chase Barber on. He's the guy who does Edison Motors. Or if you've ever listened to Canaan Ford and she's got the classical education charter school in Alberta with like, what is it, 1300 kids right now?

Like, not 13,000. not like you know 1,300 turning people away and that's going to be interesting. Rod Giltecca his story his story as soon as he said it I'm like

that's something we should all do then because he's talking about a transformative story of shooting a gun with a military vet now albeit in the States but regardless he comes on back to Canada and I guess we could split hairs over this but to you know

basically run the largest gun lobbyist in all of Canada, right? I think. Yeah. Pretty close. Oh, yeah. It's got to be. It's got to be. I'm like, and you did that by shooting a gun with a military bit. Well, I've shot a gun with Chuck Prodnick. I know what that's all about. It's pretty cool. And it's like, we should try and make that happen. We'll see if we can or not. Yeah, I hope so. But then you go Tom, Alex, they're both coming back.

Chris Sims coming back. Oh, and Chris is a beauty too. Like she's, you mentioned it. I forget which podcast it was, but it was recently. And I forget who you were even talking to. but it talked about Chris Sims a bit where who wants to look at all that tax shit line by line. Thankfully, there's Chris Sims and her team doing it and explaining it, and I've said this to you before about Chris, explaining it so I understand it. Yeah, well, she has a beautiful gift. She really does. Actually, Franco-Tarizano, like the Canadian Taxpayers Federation has a group of them.

But Chris Sims is like the gold medal in it. Like she comes on, rattles things off. Oh, yeah. Two and a half minutes, you're like, oh, frick, I don't even need to talk to you anymore. You just, you just did what you're supposed to do over the course. Was she on the mashup just before I was on one? I was trying to get her on.

I was trying to get her on again. But it was not, maybe a month or two ago. And she was on, I think, just before I got on. And it might have been a day or two before I was on one. And you basically let her go for about 15 minutes. Because the way she can present the thing, I just want to know more. Well, her background. Yeah.

Man, what are we doing today? We're just pumping Jamie's tires. Now we're going to pump Chris. I'll knock Jamie down in a bit. Don't worry. Chris, Chris, her career is like insane. Yeah. And one of the cool things, I don't know, I'd be curious, you know, podcast listeners, what their thoughts have been.

You know, like, sometimes I'm like, I should go harder on just covering X. But one of the things I always draw back to is like, I'm trying to explore all the Canadian. people. Yeah. So we can find all the best ones. And then you can explore their shows, right? Because everybody goes to the states, everybody, all the talent. But I'm like, I keep finding talented Canadians all over the place.

Chris Sims is one. Kaelan Ford is another Albertan who I'm like, you sit and talk to her. You're like, who are you? Like, really, who are you? She could have been an Alberta politician and they, they booted her for, you know, a backdoor chat and a Facebook girl. Yeah. This is, this is something.

um regardless uh on the cornerstone forum yeah i hope people come i do too this year this year is going to be well has the makings of being something really special oh dude i think it will learned a lot of lessons from last year yeah last year was amazing like it was really really amazing it uh meeting all those people um individually like as i could in between things was uh it was it gives you an optimism you don't think is still available to have in this country and I'll be honest a lot of the way I'm feeling about this country right now there's I don't I listen to your show with Candace Malcolm recently yeah Calgary Alberta May 10th I'm just going to throw that in there and then there's tickets down the show notes if anyone wants because I do want to talk about the country

right now yeah I agree with you one of the best feedbacks I got on the forum from last year is somebody come from an event, buddy's wife actually come from an event the night before and said she didn't know if she could go to the forum she just was, it was such a terrifying event the night before or you know just like negative and negative can mean a lot of different things

just like fear based were screwed the government's screwing you on and on and on and it was Tom Luongo doing poetry at the start where she leaned over her husband said oh this is a breath fresh air fresh air and one of the things about the forum

is we're going to talk about some heavy stuff. Mm-hmm. Yep. But we don't have to be paralyzed in like absolutely. No. The world's coming to an end. Look at through history and all the crap that's happened. We're just in our own, we're on our own spot right now.

And we got some choices to make coming up. And we got to navigate a storm that we, you know, you feel like you're just about getting out of. And then they pull you right back in, which leads us to where we're at today. I was telling you about Peter Schultz when he was on. He's coming back on. for the audience he is going to be coming back on here

pretty quick but like take a look at Canada right now and tell me your thoughts because we've been having this conversation now for like two plus years maybe longer and just when you think

I'm not saying Pierre Pollyev getting in is going to right the ship but it is going to balance a few things immediately yeah I say where do you start with this So I think this will be all over the place because that's my brain is like a chakouterie board. But the, um, probably alcohol related.

But the, um, the Canada's identity focuses around some emergency or other. That's just what it does. We don't really, and I'm going to take a hit for this, but if you can explain where our Canadian identity is out there, listener, sure, go ahead, tweet me or whatever. But, um, it focuses. Like look at the COVID thing. I hate to bring up COVID. But it, it was so polarizing.

It showed those identities. Yeah. We're the half of us are just like, leave me the fuck alone in my freedom. That's us. Leave me the fuck alone. I'll figure it out. And then you have the fifth column citizens out there who are willing to rat line and snitch line on their neighbors for having garage beers.

Are you kidding me? Or the kids are at the outdoor rink banging around a puck. And we're going to call on them and get. I believe that one, the big one would you simplify that and say there's a certain portion of the Canadian population that believes government has their best interests or

you can put a tag that whatever you want. I'll tell you. And then there's a certain port of the population that if they could get rid of all government tomorrow, they'd probably get rid of I don't know, they'd Elon Musk it. I would Elon Musk the living shit out of it. You secure my freaking border.

You secure my border look after the old people. We don't even need this free health care because I don't know if you've tried to access a doctor We don't have free health care. We don't have free health care. It's just that's a myth. It's a mythos. It's a it's a it's a bold face lie and it's broken and there's many reasons why it's broken that I'm not going into immigration being part of it, but it was broken before immigration spiraled out of utter control. It was well broken before that You mentioned the talent pool going south. I know I know doctors and nurses who've gone south and business And business because of this, because of our system up here. It's just, it's a joke. We offer you free made as often as you want that.

Remember, remember when that broke, that story broke about the veterans being offered made by, by VAC? And VAC was like, oh, no, no, no, that never happened. And then a week later it was like, well, there was one rogue agent. And then that turned into, well, we're offering it, but we're not going to disclose how many veterans have taken that or how many times we've offered it to now we've programmed. to now we've progressed where Canada, I think, leads in made in the world to all citizens, not just vets.

But imagine. Well, the number that shot, I was on McKellthorup show. And then he didn't believe it. So he went and looked it up and then he put it on on social media a bunch of times. 4.7% of deaths in Canada. Now, was it 2023? Yeah, because we just finished 2024. Yeah.

It was 2023, 4.7% of deaths in Canada were made. Yeah. That's insanity. So it works out to essentially one and 20. Yep. So you go like, I go back to Peter Schultz. I'm showing you the clip. Yeah.

Now, I'm, you're worried about your brain being, uh, trickulatory board. Sean's brain at times when he gets into, you know, it doesn't matter. We don't even talk about it. Peter Schultz, okay? He talks about his father coming back from Eastern, uh, leaving Eastern Germany. And the listener, I, we, I had such amazing feedback on it. And I already knew it when the episode finished. I'm like, this guy needs to come back on.

Like, I got to figure out if he's legit or not, essentially. Yeah. But all the things he said, I'm like, this is, this is fascinating. Well, he's already been back on. He was on the last mashup. Yeah. Talking about the high speed rail from Quebec City to Toronto. Regardless.

He gets talking about his father. And why it just has absolutely sat in my brain is because it was like three days before maybe less. We were talking about, you know, like how much do the ears actually have? How much do the walls actually have ears? Sorry. And like, ah, you being a little bit paranoid, et cetera, et cetera. And then a bunch of things start coming out on the RC&P and the tech they have of listening to us citizens.

Yeah. Well, if they were doing it on criminals, you'd think we would have a bidsaver society, right? Yeah, I know. Right. And then walk in Peter Schultz. And, you know, he basically says at the start of the interview, oh, my father came from Eastern Germany before the wall went out. And I'm like, did he talk about it?

He's like, oh, yeah. Okay, what did he tell you? And he has a bunch of things, you know. I'm like, well, how do you know when the signs are, you know, like, because we're trying to look, we're not East Germany, guys. We're not. Right? We're free.

I can walk out my door today. I'm not getting arrested and everything. But what he talks about was because of being. a part of the protest against the government back in the 1950s. His parents told his father, listen, it doesn't matter if it's a day later, six days later, six months, six years, ten years, eventually they're going to come at two in the morning, knock on your door, put a bag over your head. They took pictures of everybody who's there, and they hauled them off.

Okay? So he comes to Alberta fleeing that. And this walks into Peter talking about, you know, one of the signs is when you start to think the walls have years. Yeah. Like you're starting to even self-s. Well, how many of us have Faraday Bakes? And part of it is just tracking.

Part of it is you've already noticed. This isn't shocking. No. You mentioned silver gold bull. Nice and not nefarious. How many times does your phone start prompting silver gold bull? Yeah. All the time.

Like not sometimes all the time. Mention, you know, just go down the list and everybody's going to have their story. And I'm going to get a bunch of texts about it. So you already know. the phone has ears, which is our version of the wall. And you already know the RCMP is using that

not for nefarious reasons, though. You know, not. Just to protect. To protect us. Right. So we're in this spot now of Canada where you're like, I thought we were getting Pierre Poliab.

I literally have a bunch of conversations now starting to come on here over the next couple weeks because my brain, eight months ago, was Pierre Poliab is going to it in in convincing fashion. I was hoping it was going to be sooner.

But Singh just kept dragging his feet and then, you know, and on and on. And I thought, okay, they're going to have a leadership race and it's going to be Freeland, but nobody's going to vote for Freeland, right? And then Carney entered and I'm like, why is Carney entering? There's no way he can... And everything looks like

he's going to be the prime minister. He will be ordained, yeah. Right? They got rid of Ruby. Right. So it's down of Freeland, Karni, and gold. Nobody's voting for that critter. It doesn't matter. All three of them are so, so infiltrated.

Yeah. Well, one of them is running the infiltrator, is, crony is the infiltrator runner. Okay. He's the handler. So, so then you tack on. Okay, that, that's bad. That doesn't feel good, you know?

Like, I'm already seeing all these red flags of, like, things that I'm like, that doesn't get. That feels likey. Yeah, right. And now you tack on that we're in this, like, trade war kind of. Limbo for now. limbo with the U.S. And it's been interesting to watch, Chuck.

I don't know about you. It feels like COVID all over again. It does, yeah. And the reason it does is so in COVID, which we all hate bringing up because we're like, can we move past it? Well, it's the most recent example of how Canadians acted. Yes. In an emergency. And you had one and you had the other.

It was a very big divide. With the trade war, what's interesting is if you hate Trump, which, 50% not quite of Americans, 40%, 30%, whatever it is, hate Trump. We'll not listen to a single thing about it. Canadians are the same way. So now that it's Trump calling out Canada, they're team Canada.

And they're willing to go dollar for dollar tariffs. Buy Canadian. What do we fucking make besides syrup? But we should be buying Canadian. I've come full circle on it. We should be buying Canadian anyways. If we have anything, You try going to a store and finding a product.

But why isn't the message, let's just secure the border. Yeah. Let's just do things. Like a real country should. And like, I don't know, mesh up. We can hate Donald Trump as the president the next four years. Yeah. Are we going to ruin Canadian society?

And you're seeing this divide play out. Yeah. You're seeing a good chunk of Canada rally behind who they believe is going to be a strong leader. Look at Pierre Pollyette. He's literally starting to talk like he's going to be this big, bad Canadian towards Donald Trump. Like that's So I'm getting real nervous Oh Chuck is nervous too

So we saw the How Canadians reacted to This fake emergency with COVID And then we We were seeing it play out with this next Outside sourced emergency emergency with Trump And Trump's an easy target to hate and I get it

But he's doing what's right for his country He's He's he's actually doing something I didn't think he would do initially. I figured he'd get to this eventually. I figured he'd tackle some of the more international things and I think those are being worked on behind the scenes, Ukraine and all that we can talk about later. But he went after his neighbors because that's where his real American problem is. And he's, if I'd been paying more attention, I would have realized it, but I was, I kind of took for granted he'd go out further in the world to

muck shit up instead of, he is, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, not an isolationist, but he's America first. And he wants his borders secured. And that means Mexico's got to tighten their shit up bigly. And so do we. And we should have in the first place. Look at the, you had Candasson talking about the gun crime and carjackings and we give away drugs. If you're, if we're that neighbor, if I'm looking north to Canada and I'm looking, you're giving out free hard drugs, a lot of it, I won't say the majority of it, but a ton of it is going to the black market, the second that's released onto the patient, it's going out to the fucking black market. And where do you think a lot of that's going?

Down to the states. How ridiculous is that? Chuck, our border is secure. You'll hear from every liberal. Well, why are we appointing a fentanyl's art and renting overpriced fucking black hawks and some other shit that we're doing on the border? If our border is secure, why are we doing these things? Why are we taking these steps that should have been taken?

You know, we've talked about fentanyl a little bit before. Fentanyl, no, we only found like 40 pounds or we're 10 pounds. Dude, it takes a speck to kill you, a speck. That's a chemical bomb that'll take out a city right there. But did you notice as Premier Ford is running for re-election? Now they've been seizing fentanyl and all kinds of things and guns and everything. They've been seizing at all. Isn't that amazing?

It's crazy. We didn't have a problem a couple months ago. No, but now look at us. Look at our super trooper picture. all the shit that we're finding weird how that works he's such a useless Muppet he is a Muppet But we are seeing a play out especially on the Twitter because the Twitter is the the where the focus for all this cesspool of shit goes And you see these guys on the left Progressives and liberals who are like I will fight to defend this country. No, you won't

At best you're going to boo and stomp your feet at a hockey game that's the most resistance we're gonna get out of you You are not gonna fight you're you're not gonna fight you're you useless, you are, at most, you're going to snitch on the few of us that would fight. Hypothetically, theoretically, if some foreign force were to come to our shore, doesn't have to be the states. We are so vulnerable. We are so vulnerable right now because we are like, I got left at the fucking family reunion with the creepy uncle vulnerable at this point. Because the U.S. is spotlighted. Nobody's coming to help us.

Which country stood up for Canada when the U.S., when Trump was like, I think we're going to, annex you. You know, I think we're going to just economically take you over. Not a single, other than China and Iran, both saying, we've got your back candidate. Well, what does that say? What does that say? The British didn't say shit. They got their own muckpile to figure out. None of the other, you know, G7s said anything to my knowledge. I could be wrong, but I didn't hear a thing, didn't read a thing, didn't see a thing about anybody saying, whoa, whoa,

well, America, you can't just go taking over Canada. They got like Putin's and stuff. leave those guys alone. You know. They got booed. So that, that nobody gives a shit about protecting us. The only people that gave a shit about protecting us are tired of doing it. And all the same people that say they're going to go fight for Canada and we got to, you know, our military will defend us and all this stuff are the same people that have

for generations been the ones that said, we don't need a military because we got America. And now they hate America because America is going to come for us. I'm not saying America is going to put boots in the ground here. Trump. Trump economically could leverage provinces apart, and I think Alberta's primed for it. But to get back to these new patriots wrapping themselves in the once misogynistic racist flag, the ones on the left we know aren't going to fight. They're going to be diming guys out like you and I.

They're going to be dropping a call, going to the snitch line, and basically ratting out anybody who is an insurgent, resistant, whatever. The guys on the right piss me off even more, because I expect left not to do shit that's just the way they are the guys on the right these gunnies these hardened folk out there who are i'll i'll do this that and the other to defend my country no you ain't you ain't going to do shit you are not going to do nothing if a small percentage of them actually stand up and do something if the worst comes to happen and a foreign force is on our land I would be shocked.

Be utterly shocked. And I say this, and I'm going to catch hate for this, don't care. Because you had about 16 years to prove yourself in the last shooting war. You've had all the time in the world to join up and become a potentially dangerous human, but you didn't. The only people I trust that are going to do something, and this is going to sound harsh, are the guys who've already done it. And a lot of them just don't give a shit anymore. Like my friend group of guys who've been in combat, they're like, why on earth would I defend this country again after what they've done to us?

So curious, you're in Albertan, you've fought, you've lost, like, friends. A lot of friends. Right. Defending or fighting under the Canadian flag. I don't, I'm going to butcher this. My apologies. Yeah. Where do you sit on two ideas floating in my brain?

We had a roundtable on America, Canada, the 51st state or Canada first, right? Mm-hmm. And I think, you know, twos can argue with me all he wants, but I think the unanimous agreement was, Canada the 51st state would be a terrible idea because you would cede all the power to Ontario and Quebec. Okay. All right. Horrible idea. Horrible idea.

Fair enough. Where do you sit then on Alberta sovereignty or Alberta as a country or Alberta, whatever, right? or Alberta the 51st day. If, well, there's a lot of, there's a lot of apps. I mean, it's in there. Chuck's mind goes to,

if Daniel Smith is halfway savvy and she's not a stupid woman at all, she will leverage this moment to get Alberta the fuck out of Confederation. And I can hear the, out there already. I can hear you. I can hear you.

I get over it. We are in a relationship with this country that's like a shit. shitty marriage has gone on far too long, way too long. And the only reason you're sticking out is because it's habit. It's because it's, yeah, it's easy at this point or you're comfortable in it. Well, Alberta is no longer comfortable with it. Like, the majority of Albertans I know or talk to or interact with on a daily, they're done with this. You, you want to take our wallet every other day and then tell us how we're going to fill that wallet for you with pipelines. We

can't have. The, these, the ridiculousness that this country has become, unfortunately, because it was a once great nation. I know Candace Malcolm on your show was like, I still hold out hope. It's not a, it's not a failed state. It's a failed state. We are in, we are, historically when you look back at those states that have failed all throughout history, I'm not, and you go back even in recent history, we're living in that moment. You just have to apply that paper lens over like just put that over where we are right now. We're in it. You talked with the the East Germany situation we're in it we are in that right now um people just haven't all got there yet in Alberta we got there first because we're the ones that

pay for the bulk of the rest of the country sorry rest of the country that's the way it is we'd be broke we would have been broke a decade or more ago we're just accelerated on this timeline because of Trudeau and his idiotic policies if if she doesn't do it if She doesn't leverage this moment. Somebody after her better. As far as I understand it. Now, this is one of the conversations that's going to be coming up. Because I'm like, oh, okay, so like how do we get out of confederation?

Like just hypothetically. Sean's not saying go get out of Confederations. I'm just saying hypothetically. Hypothetically, how on earth could that happen? Mm-hmm. Well, we've had a referendum on ending the equalization payments. Anybody even know where that sits? Like it's non-binding.

I didn't know you could have a referendum and it being non-binding. Yeah, it's more of a like a, do you like me? Do you like me? I like you. It's, it's, what was the word that I saw?

It's kind of to help government give them like a direction. It's a, how do you fuel poll? Right. Yeah, yeah. And so unless the poll says 90-some percent, even then they could just be like,

you know, we're not going to do it. So, okay. But that'd be sad the point. In order for Alberta, to and this is where you're worried about catching flack i'm interested to see what the the the text line does here because i know i haven't been staring at this a long time and i know that i got a conversation coming up a roundtable that's going to be really fascinating he's probably going to walk me through a bunch of this but i'm like in order for alberta to change the deal

let's say of canada they'd have to have a referendum that pretty much says as much now is that Alberta leaving. Let's just say Alberta wants to have a referendum on independence. We're going to become our own country. As far as I can understand, maybe somebody can point this out to me,

even if you had 99% of Alberta, which will never happen. No, no. Let's just say we had 99% of Alberta say, we're out, we're done. Then there's a whole bunch of things that have to happen that aren't our choice, right, that are like basically Canada is saying,

okay, you can go. Yeah. It makes almost zero sense If we wait for permission from Canada. The generally, historically around the world, we're not going to get permission from Canada. We fund Canada, especially the eastern, everything east of Ontario, especially Quebec, but all the little. It'd be like in a province is out there that have nothing. I always hear the abusive relationship thing.

It's like a married woman getting just beat on. And then her going to the beat her and being like, I'm going to leave you. Is that okay? Yeah. Essentially that's what it is. We're expecting them to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. See you later. No.

No. Probably catch another reading. No, we would just have to leave and they'd have to deal with it. And it would be messy. Okay. Well, then my next question goes, Chuck, nobody's just leave. Like, we, we, are we there yet? Do we have that?

We are closer to their. Trump has done something, he's highlighted how close we are to it. I'll tell you that. Because there are, you can talk about the percentage of people that hate Trump in Canada and the States. And it's not a small number. But there is a. contingent a contingent that is also not a fringe contingent that gets Trump and kind of

and when you narrow it to Alberta I would say that number is large a lot of my friends not veteran friends I mean normal friends when they they talk about this Trump thing they're like why wouldn't I want to be the 51st state we get first amendment we get second amendment carry you know we're going to be the next Montana if we're in Alberta we're laughing. Dude, we're laughing. We just have to cut off everybody else from the teat out east. And then we're laughing. We are an economic powerhouse onto ourselves with we could be selling to Germany. We could be selling to South Korea, Japan. Europe at large needs our oil just because of the whole Russian Ukraine thing. And what we do? No, no, no, no, no. So, so we'd be, we'd be a powerhouse

unto ourselves. Some of the conversations that are coming. I got to give credit. God, fuck. I wish you listened to. I actually with Jamie, I wish you were. sitting here today. Did you listen to Peterson's thing about a couple weeks ago. He did about a 20 minute video where he said, Canada better make a sweet deal for Alberta to stay. At this point, it's up to Canada to convince Albertans to stay, not for us to dis-explain why we're leaving. And it was really well, it was Peterson well done. Peterson well done. Better than I can explain. I'm not going to bother you in trying to interpret or paraphrase it because it would not do it justice. But essentially, he laid out the grounds for Canada better sweeten the pot for Alberta.

They fund everything, whether you want to admit it or not out there east, sitting on there, sipping your syrup in the Laurentian somewhere. We, you're some province that has nothing except our money funding you. You know, that, that needs to happen or, yeah. If Jamie Sinclair said this to me in the middle of COVID, it might have been on a podcast. Might have been. I can't remember. But back then he said, we just have a, we have a problem. And the problem is Eastern Canada doesn't think like Western Canada.

No. Now, you can, you can draw lines wherever you want. But just imagine a line between two parts of Canada where that line hits. I don't know. I don't care. I mean, like, you're just talking about two different ways of life. And he had told me back then, and it's interesting because I just had a conversation with another person yesterday. When you go economics, there's highs and lows.

There's cycles of, like, people get upset when we're not making money, and people get complacent when we are. Right? So when pain's at a high, it's because everybody's being taxed to oblivion. Yeah. Jobs are being taken away, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And so you're making an argument or you're making a choice from a bit of like, what's the word I'm looking for? Desperation. Yeah.

From an untenable situation. And one of the guys that, maybe this conversation will come up here sooner than I think, it said, you know, if you make a decision based on something else, because the economics are there, everybody can see it. Yeah, we all feel it. On values. And Jamie was the first one who said this to me. He's like, you know, Western Canadians believe in family.

We just do. You know, we can sit there and argue about what family looks like, but we believe in family. We believe in, you know, I might argue God. I would argue a bunch of different things we believe in. And if you want to have all the other stuff that we don't believe in, the maids and all that stuff and all these crazy progressive ideas maybe you should move out east yeah and maybe we should just separate into that yeah and not to mention the economics that would come along with

it because if you get to arguing the so so are we happy if equalization payments end are we are we are we we as albertans it'd be a start it'd be a start are we happy if if all of a sudden we get the alberta pension plan are we happy just to have a bigger seat at the canadian table or is there some fundamental issues. We're not even proportionally represented in the vote. But that's what I mean. Not even close. There are little provinces out east that have a bigger representation than we do.

Like we just, it's, it is all bullshit. It's laughable. It's laughable. And it's so on the face of it laughable. But my question then becomes, so they start giving us, are we all happy? Or, yeah. Or is it time to realize the way Canada's going, the carnies of the world are trying to take us. and whether it's now or in 20 years.

They're, they're never going to give us the things that Peterson laid out or that we require. They're never going to stop equalization because then where's that money come from? We have no other industry. What are we going to the dairy cartel, the syrup cartel? Are you kidding me? No, no, no, no. We're not going to shit from that. What are we, what do we export beyond our oil to one customer that we very brilliantly are going to tariff

dollar for dollar? Who is thinking this shit? shit up. Great mind. Like we, oh, and then there were, I loved on Twitter, there were people like, we'll just turn the, the cast off to the states. Well, do they not know the pipelines that run through certain rich five? Yeah, the ones that run through the certain states to get out east. You know what?

Fuck them. I'm all for it. Turn those off because the fuckers out east will freeze. Like, I just. My problem, my, my, my, my, my, my issue, well, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong on this. But I have people, I've been across this country. I know you have.

to there's wonderful people everywhere everywhere yeah yeah I'm being hard on the east I I do because they keep electing government is they keep electing Muppets yeah right and and I don't fully understand not living out there I just understand Alberta and I'm like at this point I'm like huh I never thought you know it's funny I was sitting there on the round table episode 800 and for whatever reason the hundreds when you when you hit 200 300 episode 400 etc they kind of signal where I'm at in my brain so maybe you didn't listen to it, but we had an episode once again on Canada 1st versus Canada 51st state.

I'm like, oh my God, how did I, how do we get here? Oh, because it looks like Carney is going to be the next prime minister of Canada. Yeah. And he's literally saying what we need is an elitist, globalist, and I've heard from different people in Canada that they think he'd be a good leader. Oh, my God. I'm like, well, he told us because he's a globalist and elitist, he would be a great leader. He said this openly. He stated, because I'm an elitist, I will make a great leader.

And I hear these things and I'm like, I don't know if there's a way that isn't a referendum triggering something that shocks the rest of Canada, like an absolute buzzer. Like, you know, the cattle prod. Because right now they're acting like, oh, Alberta's just complaining. They always complain. They always complain. It's like, yeah. I don't get that sentiment in Alberta right now. I think people when, once again, I go back to maybe your conversation.

I feel like Albertans are right pissed off. They're beyond pissed off at this point. The ones that I talk to anyone, I think it's a general consensus across the board unless you're some progressive nut bar. But Jamie and I, we differ on Confederation. He still thinks, and not wrongly so, that this once great nation, and Candace set it on your podcast with her, this could be, should be the greatest nation in the world. It could be an economic powerhouse.

Man for man, there isn't an army in the world that could touch us when we were not under this woke broke bullshit, this intentionally decimated military that we have. We'll get to that in a minute. But we have all the goodies in the ground. We have all the brains here that flee to the south as soon as they can because it's more viable to go down there. Our drain, our knowledge drain base just goes down there. The money is there. Yeah. I love Canada.

Like, I want to put that out there very clearly. I love Canada. Ditto. I loved what Canada was. But the problem I see is, like, all the things we want to have changed. I don't know if they can. I actually, I look at it and I'm like, oh, no, I can't. Younger Sean, I hate to talk to myself in third person, folks.

But younger Sean would have been like, oh, no, we can all get involved. And if we all get involved, things can change. That's the kumbaya, Sean, yeah. Okay. So the next 20 years, we're all going to get involved. And we're all going to steer the ship when we don't have the laws that, you know, the U.S. has where we can just enact things relatively quick. Yeah. We're, you know, we got the most conservative government here in Alberta.

And I know things are in the work about the Alberta pension plan. I get it. Nothing's happened. We got a referendum on ending equalization. Nothing's happened. That's just, that's just from there. And I go, like, I don't know. Like I, I stare at Canada and I'm like, there's some things that look very broken to me.

And can they be fixed? Absolutely they can. But the difficulty of fixing them is at an insanely high proportion. Yeah, it's not. In my opinion, I think we've passed that. The Rubicon has been crossed. We're not. Jamie would argue the counter.

And again, I won't. That's why I said. Like, to me, Jamie's one of the guys who initially seated Western, Eastern Canada, separate the values. and now they can have, you know. That's never going to happen. You're not going to pick up and move geographically unless there's threat of violence. People do it under threat of violence.

Like I've been to regions in the world where impending violence has been like, you know what? We're going to dump this shit here. Go stay with aunt and uncle over there in their province or region safer. We're not going to get ethnically cleansed. Everybody's good. Not saying we're going to ethnically cleanse anyone here. However, you don't know what's going to.

Bosnia, I bring up as an example. where they were genociding the living shit out of each other for years had just hosted the Winter Olympics a few short years earlier. Think about that. Like you went from. Nagano hosting the Winter Olympics in Vancouver. I'm bringing it to a Canadian. And then two years later, your countrymen are literally walking in.

And although we saw how nuts people got during COVID. We saw how crazy, violent, insane people got. over the flu over the fucking flu but just take the people out of it and go to the government standpoint oh yeah we got at the highest levels we know they knew how bad it was

they went and you know our government was talking about bringing the military in to Ottawa I guarantee you the military didn't they well the middle those bank accounts like they've crossed already how many lines and if if Pierre gets in we can all have our thoughts on Pierre, but it is going to change things immediately.

It will. If Carney gets in, it's going to accelerate. Yes. Yeah, it will. Now, my optimism for the nation as a nation is at an all-time low. And I get this argument from people all the time who will message me or tweet me or text me or call me or whatever and be like, well, dude, you fought for this country. This country is the great.

No, this country was, it was something I valued enough that I did go to war a few times. I did unspeakable things a lot of times. I lost a lot of my best friends because we thought this was something worth fighting for. I didn't do a lot of changing. I'm still a simple shithead asshole. I've always been. This country has changed. What was once, and Candace mentioned it as well,

the country she grew up in and she's younger than me she's probably more closer to your age is not the same country where the cops are telling you in Toronto it's wild Chuck it's wild to me you know because I was I wanted to bounce us off you because I'm like you've you've literally you know how many years did you serve in the military Canadian military just about 21 okay so almost 21 years in you know from all the times you've been on here I have the utmost respect for military guys I try and talk about a lot because you guys don't get, I don't think in Canada get the recognition you deserve. It doesn't mean you don't

get any, but no, no, no, no, no. But like, you know, out of the people I bring on the podcast, you're in a very select few who went over and shed blood, lost friends, family, comrades, however you guys want to say it, in act of war. And for you to

be like, the country is not there anymore. Like, it's a fallen state. This isn't the country I went to war for. It's not. You think about that. Like, that's a me saying it, people will be like you're just being hyperbolic Sean. And they can, and they can, well, they can say whatever they want. At this point, I'm beyond the caring portion of it. This booing thing at the hockey game, I get it if it's football or basketball or some

shit sport, go ahead and hockey. Hockey fans booed. This is, this is some, this is some next level disrespect. This is the least classiest thing I've seen in Canada in a very long time. And that's saying something. These people, I had a tweet go viral a couple, just out. after that happened, I went kind of insane because I ranted. And the gist of it was they booed, they also booed American wounded veterans at the

Invictus games recently, and I was of Vancouver, I believe, which is, it's a games put on for wounded veterans. And the people there booed them. And they defended booing them. Now, I fought beside Americans. Half my family, my mom's American. Half my family's American. I'm married to an American.

You're married to an American. We're very integrated anyway as a, you know, two countries where hundreds of thousands of Canadians live in the states, hundreds of thousands. I don't know if it's hundreds. Lots of Americans live here. We cross the border daily on mass. We have businesses across the way. We vacation in either spot all. You can't go to Banff without tripping over an American.

You know, it's, it's, or you can't go to Florida without tripping over to Canadian. It's, that's how it is. We're, we're just retarded cousins at the family reunion. We're intertwined. intertwined as as two great neighbors now i should be i fought beside americans i walked and you fucking boo them that's your resistance you wanted to hide behind them you wanted to not fund our military because we got america they're they're good enough to shed their blood beside ours fuck that's the fucking canada we're in now fuck that i'll go 51st state

I'll get my 1A and 2A my kids will have a future your kids will have a future the rest of Canada can figure it the fuck out and if that hurts feelings don't much give a shit I've been there done that I got all the shitty t-shirts a guy can earn in the army I've been around the world

I've seen what happens and where this country's going I don't think we're recovering I would like to think optimistic Chuck maybe I have the Candace you know that optimism is great and they listen to her talked on your show and it's it is uplifting but that's not if polyev gets in realistically i'm not saying he's uniparty he's all one there's one party although there's a little bit of a one party thing going on um he's going to fix some

shit but he's not trump he's not going to slash and burn he's not going to upset the apple cart He's not going to root out all the evil that's there. He is a political, he's a product of the political system. I do think he's a little bit, I think he's gone further than most, but not far enough. He's, he's poll testing a lot of his stuff that he says. He's, you know, he's greasing that inner wheel a little bit. He's kind of holding that middle line a little bit too much. He won't speak about certain things.

He did not unless they're really poll tested or in a really select audience. that's not going to fix this nation. It's not going to fix it. He's going to continue equalization from what I understand. He might defund CBC. He better because he said. You're talking Pierre now. Yeah.

He better defund CBC. He'd better get their fucking hands off our rifles, all of them. I'm not saying we need automatic guns. That's ridiculous. We don't need automatic weapons, you know. But this whole, if it's got a black plastic stock on it, it's a weapon of war bullshit. That needs to go away.

It has done nothing for gun crime. Gun crime's up like, I don't even know the hundreds of percent it's at now. And the bulk of that is all smuggled in from the U.S. Because guess what? We don't have a secure border. Like a real country should. And all those criminals that are doing these crimes, and I worked in corrections for almost 10 years, I've seen guys up on murder charges get kicked bail.

And not their first time murder or their first crime, but like an extensive history. Yeah, you had Tamara Litch and, and the convoy people, the Coots 4, rotting in jail because they pissed the government off. Give me a break. Like, this is the country we went and fought for? No. No, no, no, no. The idea of the country we fought for a generation ago when we did it was something different. There was still a hope.

There was still a future for our kids. That to me, if I'm going to fight for something and that's what I believed I was fighting for then, and we said it in those interviews in the documentary. Ben said it, I said it, we all said it for our kids. Well, there's no future for our kids. They'll never own a home. It doesn't matter what their bank account looks. They're never owning a home.

Not under this decline that we're in right now. Jesus, I ain't poor by any stretch. I do pretty good. And I'll tell you what, buying a home in that last market we were just in, Holy shit like it took some doing it took some doing it's no wonder people are leaving or looking at leaving when you that fellow you had again I can't remember his name that was McElthor Mackelthorpe um people I at the first I was kind of like you know I've considered it especially with the COVID stuff I considered leaving Canada I've got family in the states I've got friends around the world I could go bum a fucking chunk of land off of build my own stuff this guy he was a busy customer after his speech you know what I don't know how many people took him up on doing it but I'll tell you enough he was because I hear about it

lots he was a busy man McKell's got a his his conference coming up here in March and then I've had several people reach out asking if I'm going because McKell has offered it to me to come and I'm like kind of dragging my feet a bit I don't know if you yeah but I don't know if you've noticed everything that's been going on with planes lately no yeah You know, if I may just direct you for a second, because I got all the time in the world for what Chuck's saying, folks, if you've never read the book Atlas Shrugged, you really should.

Now, I will forewarn you, it is like, if you're reading the audible book, it's like, I can't remember, is it 30 hours long? So you can just give you an idea how thick the book is. But what happens towards the end of the book, now it's all about trains. Nothing's on time. Things are being destroyed. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The industry is just falling apart.

When I watch planes right now, and I was just in a dressing room last night, listening to guys coming back from holidays and everything, we just had a week off with the kids. So people went to Mexico and Toronto and all over. Delays, delays, delays on and on. I'm like, you're still there a little, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.

But, I mean, Toronto just had a plane land upside down. Yeah. And they blamed it on, no, I'm sitting talking about my mom. I'm sitting there talking. She's like, yeah, I guess it was the conditions, you know, the wind was bad. I'm sorry, I'm making it sound like she's dumb. She's not, she's sharp. She was just repeating what the Minuzza said. It was, it was weather conditions, big wind gusts, and the tarmac was covered in snow. But if you've done any digging on that, both those things don't sound like they're true. I've talked to enough pilots. My father had his pilot license, and as soon as I said it,

Mom said, actually, me and dad were talking about it. And that's exactly what he said. Oh, it looks like they didn't put their nose up when they came in to land, right? I don't know a whole lot about planes. I don't have my pilot's license. I don't know any about that. But when enough people from that line of thinking who are, have flown a lot are like, oh, they came in way too hot. You're like, okay, so that is what?

Inexperienced, I would just argue, like immediately not knowing anything else. And that's in Toronto now. Yeah. So, like, I've had, I guess I should say this, Rebecca Coughler is not coming to Calgary. Why? She's nervous about,

I've had different speakers worry about the state of Canada. Like, is it safe to come? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's safe. Yeah. Now she won't, she's like, I'm not feeling comfortable getting on a plane. Like, Ben Davidson,

who is the guy talking about solar flares and everything, he wouldn't come because of planes. He's like, I'm just not getting on a plane. I'm like, oh my goodness. I can see it. So the reason I bring up. Atlas Shrugged is it's it's this I thought when I read Atlas Shrugged

the thing that stuck out to me is it reminded me a DEI and then the industry in that that started to fall apart was trains because it connected the nation and on and on and on and now I watch planes and I'm like this is like eerily Atlas Shrugged oh yeah well the meme on

Twitter going around once they found out the age and experience of the pilot they was like I'll pay extra to have the old pilot old male a white pilot named Steve because guess what, he's done it for 30 years, you know, and I get pilots got to start somewhere. Everybody starts somewhere. What me and

Chuck are alluding to is it was a girl pilot, 30 days on the drop. 30 days on the job, something like that. It was very short time. You know, everybody starts somewhere. And does that mean a woman can't be a pilot? No, that's something we're saying, you jackass.

No. And I don't even know. There's at least two or three years. I know the audience doesn't think that, but I could hear is somebody going, are you trying to say that, no. No, we're pointing out that it's inexperienced. And we're pointing out to the fact that the airline industry has been in a, has been in a spiral since COVID at least.

And part of that is diversity, equity, and inclusion. Yeah. Well, in standards. I mean, well, military. Let's talk to the Canadian military. So what's her noodle there, the Iraqi, the queen, she, uh, the CD-E. She put out the, uh, her little news conference thing with some of her honchos the other day about,

and I, we all knew those of us that have served knew what she was going to, they created a DEI position for her, a commissor position and then made her to CDS after failing upwards continuing her career. Um, for those of you out there that have served and some of you may have even been over there when she, uh, performed less. than admirably under some indirect fire on an American base in Iraq, this woman should not be anywhere near a command position.

I wouldn't care if she's a woman or man or just shouldn't be. I've served with plenty of men in combat who performed less than admirably, who were removed, who were immediately removed and sent home because you couldn't fucking do it. That is what it is. Some people can, some can't. She couldn't. And when it's a troop, when it's just some regular troop, that's bad enough. When you're in a command position, people die.

People have the potential to, it can go horribly wrong when you're the commander and you are the one, the first one running. Not good, really bad. Well, she puts out this, this press conference where she lays out, where they lay out as a group, these lowered standards for health. both, lowered standards for mental, mental cognizance, basically. You don't have to be a Canadian citizen to join now. You just have to be permanent resident. permanent resident. And this is, the physical standards have already been dropped.

Like, they're just, well, we know that male obesity in the Canadian male is 72%. 72%. It's, it's unfathomable to me. Now, we weren't. always the most gentle people in Jamie and I's time in the in our infantry battalion we weren't bullies by any stretch but if we had some fat guy or some guy on the way they'd be coming the fat guy do you think how long do you think that lasted because it doesn't last it

didn't last back then like fat guy do something eat less one more lift heavier or we're gonna beast you we're gonna we would just beast somebody into being better or beast amount of the military and that's just how it went um you can't fight when you're fat you can't haul 85 pounds of weaponry and gear on your back in 50 degree weather and chase shitheads around the mountains when you're fat or when you have asthma or when you have any other of these underlying conditions which are well you know we'll let you in or what is it ADHD and all this other shit now well i think everybody in the world claims to have ADHD so that should negate like, you know, you know, I don't know what percentage of people now claim to have it as an

excuse or a LARP or whatever, but the standards are so deteriorated, diminished, gone. Why would? Now, the demographic I served with were I was a farm kid, Jamie was a farm kid, the bulk of the guys I served with at least in the infantry, and I would say in most of the other working trades, not nerd trades, but like mechanics and, you know, gun plumbers and guys who were the hands on guys were rural kids. If not a farm kid, a small town kid. City kids didn't tend to join.

There were a few. There were a few. They tended to be rougher kids, like guys whose options were running out and join. And they made fantastic soldiers because they weren't afraid to do things. That demographic doesn't join under a government like this because they've been demonized. They've been fucking harped on for 10 years. years about how shitty they are small I don't know yeah maybe I'm wrong on this maybe you can you can adjust how I say it but hmm the small town kid um wants to

believe in something you want to believe in something bigger than yourself I did most of the guys I served with believed in the nation but when you see tampons in the men's room it's just a simple it's just a simple thing to point out a greater issue yeah and you come from the farm you're like that's a blatant lie That's, doesn't, and now you're trying to tell me I'm going to have to go against my moral compass. And, and there's a lot of things in the military that I'm sure, um, you know, push on you. But like, it's hard enough to motivate yourself and others in a fighting situation to attack this position and potentially die. It's a difficult fucking thing to do.

It is really difficult to do that when you don't even believe in the country anymore. And these, this demographic. I'm not, I've said this many times, I am not a choir boy, I'm not a Boy Scout, I can be a righteous, evil person when I have to be. And unfortunately, I'm the asshole you want facing off with their assholes because I'm going to win. I'm going to steamroll right through whoever's in front of me. So is Jamie and so is the other guys like us. If you want the Boy Scouts and the movie Boy Scout version of some war film you've seen,

you ain't going to win no war, I'll tell you that. You're going to get exactly what you have now. You're going to have fat guys who look like shit, painting their nails, long-haired hippies. They look like the fucking Dutch Army. Sorry if you were in the Dutch Army. But this is, they were, the Dutch Army was always our example of who you don't want to look like them. And now we resemble it? We've surpassed our shittiness level.

Like we are. Are we going to send guys to guys and gals to Ukraine? That's the next play for them, I think. I'm curious to see if Trump can end this on some level. I don't know if you heard was it a week ago, 10 days ago the leaked audio of Macron from France

telling Putin in a phone call the Minsk agreements mean nothing. This got very little play in the news. It did hit the news. I didn't see that. So essentially this was before the war started. This was days before this iteration of what went

the 22-22 war started. They had a phone call, and apparently Macron said, the Minsk agreements, they mean nothing, buddy, nothing. Basically goading Putin. If you're going to goad somebody, if you're going to, if you're going to, if you're going to, if you're going to antagonist. You keep leaning, so I'm positioning the mic to where you keep leaning. If you're going to antagonize or poke the bear, literally the Russian bear, you're going to get the reaction you had. He was already ready to roll. Like this was, I'm not saying it was imminent, but telling him.

Well, the thing, the thing, the thing that I underestimated, but the more I look at it and listen to it, I'm like, that actually makes sense. Is Trump thought he was going to mock it? I know he wants to end the war. He does, yeah. Okay. So that's already a mind shift change from where the U.S. was before. The problem is, is that how many hundreds of thousands of men have now died? Oh, it's the numbers, I don't think we'll ever know the full numbers, but it's, it, as near as you can tell watching some accounts on Telegram who monitor basically obituary things and the kind of the stuff you, those kinds of things.

So the estimates are at what? On the Ukrainian side, at least 400. And on the Russian side, it's past 100. So, so, tell us. Conservatively, half a million people are dead. I would say. That's just based on what I've seen so far. So. Could be more.

Imagine walking in after I shouldn't laugh, but like, you know, three years into this sucker and being like, yeah, let's end it now. Yeah. And Russia or whoever being, oh yeah, you want to. Oh, that's, that must be nice for you. Right. Well, this is how we're going to do it. And then trying to navigate that shit storm.

Well, you got a few factors here. Where does Zelensky go? Because whatever gets negotiated out, he's done. He's gone. Who's taking him? in as some exiled. Oh, probably Canada.

You're not wrong. It'll be in Freeland's fucking guest room, um, spending the billions. So old Zelensky, about a minute after Trump got in, said, we're missing like a hundred billion dollars and stuff that you didn't, that we're supposed to have.

And Trump's like, what do you mean you're missing a hundred billion dollars? Like, that's not an insignificant amount of money. Um, and so he's already, he's, he's already,

positioning themselves to be like we didn't get all the stuff we're supposed to. That's why we're continuing to lose. Um, these, all these little factors are starting to play out where I think it'll get negotiated out. And I think that Russia will maintain the bulk of what they've taken, which are essentially the three regions that tried separating before anyway. The, you know, where the fights had already been going on since 2014. The people got to understand, the war didn't really start in 22. This iteration of the war started in 22. The real war started when the CIA under Newland

overthrew the government in the maiden coup. And if they don't, I could go through that rabbit hole again. I'm not. It's at nauseam now. But watch Oliver Stone's documentaries on it. Ukraine on fire and I forget the other one, but he breaks down. What the fuck happened? Like what happened?

He's not pro-Rush. He's not pro-Pooten all the way. Talking to Putin doesn't make you pro-Pooten. It means you want to learn what the fuck's going on. oddly Putin is like the only guy they won't talk to Trump will obviously but now you have to worry about the British especially but Europe at large trying to sabotage us again are they going to send Boris Johnson in to derail you know it was already signed Zillinsky had signed off on it we're done yeah we'll finish it we have like a few days till ceasefire and

Bojo went in and derailed that like this is that's on record now it's not like Chuck making the shit the people can access that it's there he went in and derailed what was going to be the end of it. So what are they going to do to derail this? You know, Jamie would argue that if NATO stepped in, we'd win. Chuck doesn't think so. I do not think so. And I'll use my experience again in Afghanistan of working with NATO. There were three countries that fought on the regular, the Americans, the British, and us. And there had to have been several dozen NATO countries sitting on calf, the big airfield, Sipping on Timmy's or at the green bean or shopping at the PX or walking the boardwalk having a Burger King or a subway

Because all those stores are there. It's just a city there Big safe city They didn't go that if we go to war with Russia you're gonna have some some little European country with like six soldiers like Estonia Six soldiers and like four tanks and a which would probably outdo us at this point But they they're gonna be like we're gonna we're gonna watch this area here And then you're going to have other countries be like, well, we're going to watch this area here. Because that's what they do. They don't want to go do the fighting part.

That'll be left up to what's left of our decrepit army and the Americans who have an army again or will have an army again. The British armies as decimated as ours. So I don't know what they're going to do. Like, and they were savage fighters, the British and the Americans absolutely beauty. Like, they can roll. They can give her. And they've only, the problem now with fighting Russia is they've got a three year head start in. tech and experience.

And you take, you take me and Jamie at the beginning of that 06 tour and we're both 15 years deep, at least in our careers at that point with tours under our belt, but that was a combat tour. What the Jamie and Chuck that started that tour were not the same guys eight months later with the battle experience we had. These guys have three years of it. All the lessons learned that we learned in eight months.

Yeah. Trickled, you know, we would try to trickle out to other units going over. Some took it on. Some didn't because of unit pride. or just fucking dirty Patricia we're not listening to them, all that jealousy, unit jealousy that happens.

The Russians, everything that's a lesson learned, Americans do it very well. They capture a lesson learned. And within like a day, it's being retaught at the training level. This thing is a new concept that the enemy is using.

We are going to adjust. The Russians, I don't know that their system is as streamlined. I can tell you it is, in three years it's caught up. up like they have logistics down so good like to feed the amount of artillery shells that they're firing their logistics is insane to feed cloth, weaponize and give bullets to the amount of troops they have on the front is insane and to do it to do it at the scale that they've done

it for three years should baffle and concern the NATO pundants they're not running out they're out producing what they're using and they're using a lot what do we have. All the shit that we gave away, we've not replaced. The, the Americans will start replacing their stuff now. But I don't think they're in a position where they want to go launching too many more javelins. You know, I just, you know, when we can't get our head around how to, uh, and I shouldn't say our head around like when our leadership of this country can't get our head around. And even if they wanted to, I think there's too many things in place between the provinces and the country as a whole that are just common sense, right? like energy east or or you know whatever right like just take your pick on how we could strengthen

our country from within by doing things that are good for the nation right that would make everyone um every province stronger certainly it would it would bolster Alberta but Alberta is already bolstered with the energy industry and other things but if you were to take that idea and extrapolate it right like over the course of you know five year period 10 year period we could make Canada like great again. I mean, it sounds sad to say those words, but I mean, it's true. And you look at the Canadian military,

it's like, well, it could happen there too. But you need the leadership in place that wants that. Yeah. And you're like, well, we're, I don't know, it's a lot of human beings going down the grinder before we ever get to a position where all of a sudden Canada just like snaps out of it. And like, oh, we need to start doing this and this and this.

I hear all the stories of, you know, and Jamie's been a wealth of knowledge on it, right? But others have, too, of like Canadian military history and like how proud you were to lead to, I mean, now it's the leaf before that was the red enzyme. But like how ferocious Canadian, Canadians were. When you think of surviving in this country, they pretty much had to be. You had to be to start. Yeah. Especially the, I'm not saying the Eastern units weren't good, but the Western units. Yeah, we were basically pioneers and cowboys.

Even the reputation we still have in the Western units out here. It's as the first battalion is basically known as cowboy, was known as cowboy battalion because we just did wherever the fuck we wanted to get it done. You know, American and British units, though tough and good, British were more like us than Americans were. Americans are very SOP and, you know, doctrine, doctrinally driven, even in a fight. not saying they weren't effective. I'm just saying they're different style.

Whereas we were more, let's get her fucking done. Do you think we're going to send troops over? Under a liberal government, I do. I fear that we will. And I fear, because I know Trudeau has mentioned it before. He's mentioned it openly before. And you want to believe with the amount of influence that Freeland has and generally the anti-Russian pro,

now I'm not pro-Russian. anti-Ukrainian i'm i'm i'm i'm not even anti-war i don't mind a good war but we're not going to win we are not going to win we are going to fucking lose horribly and we're going to lose people we don't need to lose by putting them in a place that shouldn't be fighting right now we have no interest in this war none i don't give a shit if russia takes over those three provinces that wanted to separate anyway i don't give a shit if they take the rest of ukraine nato goaded them into doing it. We're reaping what we sow and we're not strong enough to back up our mouth. NATO is not strong. You see these idiots, these guys little wrenions, some of these punas

like a reporter's like a coin and some of these other Muppets going on about how we should kick NATO, uh, US out of NATO. Dude, the NATO is the is funded and propped up and by the US. By the US. You know how happy Americans were to see somebody other than them fighting in Afghanistan. Like, we'd leager up with them or we'd meet up with them after a fight or before a fight or whatever,

in those moments where you weren't actively shooting people. And the Americans were just through the roof that somebody was with them. That's all they want. Just, holy shit.

They talk about the filthy Europeans. We were like fucking filthy Europeans, you know, like, sound like Don Cherry here, but they were useless over there. They were next to useless. I'm sorry if you're European and you,

you were useless over there. You did nothing, essentially. If we're going to get into a war, I want to win it. If I get into a hockey fight, I don't know if I'm going to win every time I'm on the ice. You're probably going to know you're in a fight though. I stand a good chance. I'm prepared.

I'm physically fit. I've been in a few. If I'm at wherever it happens, when I was in corrections, if some fucking big monster of a guy pulled me into his cell to have a go at me, I knew what I was doing. I knew what I was up against. Those were the risks. and I was happy to take them. I know where the state of our military is.

I know where the state of NATO is, and I know where the state of Russia is roughly. And we are not fit to take them on. We have 72% worth of our guys are fat. Fat. What are they going to do? So if you come back to... Boo?

Are they going to boo loudly? Use the wrong pronouns, throw tampons? I don't fucking know. We're not winning. We ain't winning that fight. If you come back to Canada as a whole, Like obviously there's two ways the next couple months play out, right? Like we're just a few weeks away from.

We either get an election. We maybe get one in October or he plays that fucking wild card and pushes it till October of 26 because he doesn't constitutionally. September of 26. Sorry, September of 26. Because it's only every five years. Normally we do it four because people want the four. But he might push for five.

I don't know. Well, I'm trying to, like, I know I don't speak for, uh, well, I speak for myself. I don't speak for, me too. I'm not speaking for all veterans. Well, or the,

the audience, I'm like, you know, I just know, there's a ton of the honest, very frustrated, right? Very, we're probably all getting to the same point at the same time. Yeah.

I thought Pierre was coming in. And in fairness, I, I know the Uniparty and everything. I just look at it and I go, uh, I agree with what Pierre said. on Peterson's podcast.

Yeah. When he said it, I'm like, I agree with what you just said. And that was, you know, in order to make big change, people need to stay engaged.

He's not wrong. And he's not wrong. That's a sad reality of Canadian politics. Candace said it too. The reason she does what she does is so that people. Right. Tune in, you know,

adjust, focus in. And I look at it and I go, okay, well, we're down to three. I don't know why people are so upset about the Ruby thing or anything. Like,

we did it in our conservative party too, right? We exited out a bunch of, a bunch of leader. Now, not down to three. But, like, that's what these parties do. That shouldn't shock anyone. I don't know why that's shocking.

It isn't shocking. It's just, this is standard operation. They have a guy. They want to win, maybe two, and they're going to get it so that the conditions are favorable, if you would, right? Because now if you bought a membership for the Liverpool Party,

your options are freeling gold or Carney. Tell me if you're voting and who you're voting for. I'd be curious. Like, honestly, I'd be very careful. curious. So, you know, to me it looks like Carney's going to win. I could be wrong. He's going to be very wrong. He's going to win, yeah. But it looks like Carney's going to win. Okay. He becomes prime minister. Once again, this shouldn't shock anyone. I think it's shocking that that's how our government's set up. But I also thought it was shocking when Daniel Smith got to be premier and not be

elected in. That, that's strange to me. That our democracy has a fundamental hole in it. Yeah. Like it's a hole. The American cons, the American way of doing things is so, much better than ours. I'm just going to say it. It's got its own flaws. It's got its own flaws. It's got its own flaws. So you come back to Canada, though.

I want to stick on Canada for a second. Okay. So Carney gets in, and then you go, are we having an election in April, beginning of May, like was going to happen if Trudeau had stayed in, right?

Singh and said he was going to, no matter what. And then we started to see him waffle a little bit, and I'm like, oh, man. As soon as he waffled a bit, I'm like, how hard would it be for Carney to walk in and say, I'll give you, what do you want?

I'll give it to you. I want October. And I don't even have to play the fearmongering game of September. October, how much damage can be done between here and October? Or can they go head to head with Trump and Trump actually puts on the tariffs? Can you play? I guess what I think I can mirror for a lot of listeners, including myself, is I thought I knew it was coming.

I literally, any time you think that, you'll probably give yourself a slap across face and a cold drink, a cold shower, and just wake yourself back out because I have no idea, right? Carnegie could get in for one day, there could be election pier, it could be in in April, boom, it's done, and we're on this track,

and off we go. But everything that's gone on in the last like three months, I'm just like, what? No, I didn't see that coming. We are in fairly uncharted territory, really. Singh's not even a wild card. He's a definite, he's a definite, uh, well, all his actions at this point would say if you walked in and said,

listen, I could get this push and serve for you, he'd be like, we're staying on. I don't know. We got your back, bro. Got your back. That's, he's going to, he's going to bro up with Carney. Maybe we'll get an October election coming up. I don't know. So then I go, if you're sitting here, here, no, my, my question is, and I don't know

how to frame this right. But there's going to be people who knew all about the convoy and knew how important it would be to Canada and everything. I was not one of them. So it came out of the blue for me. I remember interviewing Chris Barber and thinking, that's not going to work. I remember having that thought.

I was really impressed, though, that if they raised a ton of money, because I thought it was a drift, a grift, or something along that lines. Yeah. But I was really impressed when he said, if they made too much money for the fuel, they were going to donate to veterans. I was like, wow, okay, you've thought about that. And it was, and it's funny, because I've been wrong a lot.

We all are. If I look back on me, I was wrong about that, is wrong about that. I'm an idiot here. So right now, I'm just pointing out the fact, folks, Sean's an idiot. So take this with a grain of salt. What I'm curious about is there's something that could happen in Canada, similar to a convoy, and I don't mean truckers going to Ottawa. I mean a movement where you're like, this could actually work.

No. I think I think bring it to Alberta then. I think as a country we're never going to see a convoy again because people saw the government played it and they we saw the repercussions against those handful of people that were kind of at the front of it and we saw what happened to them we see what happens to the coots for and that's really enough to keep none of us want to go to jail. none of us want to and we'll be the ones that stay in jail unlike if you're a carjacker

or fentanyl dealer or whatever that's so that's a big motivator to not we're also more although we unified in those moments and I know that we did we're also extremely fractured now we're more regional now than we ever were the Trump thing has highlighted that

if we weren't before this has highlighted it sure we are not going to unify like that again so bring it to Alberta again you're going to You're going to see not just Alberta. You're going to see certain more grassroots parties in Saskatchewan, Alberta, wherever, push for more autonomy. Like we like push for our own.

But Saskatchewan, I just tried doing that in the Saskatchewan election. In Alberta, you had the wild rose and I don't even know where the wild rose is at this point. It unfortunately takes a disaster or a near disaster or what looks like a disaster to affect change. Don't you think conditions are quickly becoming almost perfect? And I say that in a way, like I just, I'm just going to frame this out. Maybe I should never say this on air, but what the heck. You got the Canada first thing, this team Canada, which highlighted to Alberta, when it's useful, we'll be a part of that. And when it's not, we're not.

Like it was within like two weeks time. It was so evident to, I think, a lot of Albertans, I'm not going to say every Albertan, but to a lot of Albertans, it was like, horribly insulting. You're hiding behind our oil now? There are dirty, shitty oil. Right. So you have that. It's very, like, fresh in people's minds.

COVID is very fresh in people's minds. I wonder, just curious. Just curious to throw this out into the universe and maybe I disappear for saying it. I wonder. I'm on way more list than you, I'm sure. If conditions aren't perfect, Chuck, for a referendum on, I don't know what the question is. I actually don't know what the question is. Is it Alberta sovereignty?

Is Alberta stay or go? Is it Alberta 51st state? I don't know the question, folks. I don't even begin to think I know the question. Just that a referendum, because as far as, you know, I go, are people going to pick up weapons and storm the capital and take Alberta? No. The answer, Chuck's already said, no. So then you go, okay, what is the lowest level that people will get involved to enact change?

And in our government, the way it's set up, is a referendum. That's the most democratic way that you can enact change, I think. And once again, I'm going to dig into this some more because I'm just, I actually don't know. So, okay, a referendum on whether we stay or go. And let's just assume that people. 1%. Let's assume it's 51%. Say we're going.

With Donald Trump and Elon Musk at the helm down south. Do you not think this is, and even if the pierre gets in, he has to deal with that. He's got to. But if Carney gets in, actually it gives the enemy out east to make this almost the perfect storm. Oh, it's exactly what they're hoping for. They thrive in the chaos of catastrophe, kind of like emerging. full emergency, look, I have to do this

to protect you and it's what they're, they're gaming on this. But from an Alberta standpoint, don't you think that would be the perfect scenario to not have a convoy like thing because I agree with you,

but to have Alberta pulled together, vote on something, give a clear indication of Daniel Smith. You talk about Daniel Smith if she's smart. She is a smart woman.

Right. But she also will wait for the will of the people. Yeah. And the will of the people. of the people at times comes from it feels like it comes out of nowhere I felt like a convoy came out of absolutely it did that's why it worked it was organic it worked I wonder if we aren't getting to another organic tipping point I guess what I'm just

we could I'm hypothesizing and we could be especially here in Alberta if look if we get tariffed we're gonna get what April 1st we get the new yeah tax bullshit hitting us at what 23% whatever yeah the new carbon tax goes up. I need Chris Simms sitting beside me to rattle off. Yeah, because I'm I can't understand let alone explain it, except that it's going to hurt real bad.

In combination with that, if Trump tariffs us and then we have a trade war of we're going dollar for dollar, and this is going to shock people. They got more dollars. They got way more dollars. Is it going to hurt them? You know what? They don't give a shit. Their cost of living is not what ours is.

They're you think you think by by Canadian is a slu these people are made in America for America by Americans. They will if this is their little Um, war for them they're going to believe me you think we're rallying around some booing retards these people these people will rally. You know if now they might some of them might even hate Trump and they're going to rally because we're an outside enemy. We're we're we're Canada. Fuck Canada. Fuck those booing assholes.

We are not going to win a trade war with an economic superpower when we have already decimated our economy. So it's going to hurt hard for us, like bad for us, really bad for us. There are businesses, and I know lots of people on the Twitter that are running their own small businesses, a variety of different types, who know they will go out of business if this trade war comes. They've already stated openly, we are out of business if this happens. we're done. We, we will not be, because like we talked about earlier,

we're integrated across the border. We're just very integrated. They won't, they'll be done by Canadian. Well, you're putting them out of business, you're retards. But you can boo and stomp your feet. If you feel better about it,

idiot, Muppets. So those conditions will possibly create an organic moment where here in Alberta, where Trump says, you know what, you're the least shitty part of Canada. And he's already, she's met him a couple times.

They have a little relationship. She was the only one with the balls and the savvy to go. And the four. For thought. Yeah. For sight. To go down there. When there's the new mafia king, you don't avoid the mafia guy.

You go down and kiss the ring. And I don't care how that sounds. You go down and form a relationship. or you're the one on the outside. And if you're on the outside of any organization, it's a pretty shitty, you know, permanent position to be in. Trudeau having mocked Trump for the last 10 years

and the last four specifically where he wasn't in power thinking he's never going to get back in, watch me go on every thing I can go on and shit talk this guy. Well, how'd that turn out for Canada? Team Canada. Your guy was just, it's like going on the ice and you've been chirping this guy all day

or for a few days in between. games you'd chirping the guy on the other team and now he catches you on the ice with your head down well that just happened to canada we just got caught with our head down in the corner we're getting toasted and it hasn't even started yet this is how people reacted to the threat of tariffs what have we fixed exactly what's our report card looked to trump what do we got like what i don't even date is we have a few days to show trump our report card our homework you know i got a borders are yeah we got a borders are fantastic good stuff We got to, we, we were able to name a border czar.

Good stuff. We rented some shitty old black hawks at an exorbitant price. Rented them. We didn't buy anything for our board. We rented some shit. So that's a temporary thing. Although if it's, anyway, we. Somebody's getting rich off that.

Somebody's getting, somebody's contract. So we are in a really, we are in a primed position for an organic moment to happen. I don't know if that looks like Trump leveraging us out. I'm not against it. I'm just not. I want my kids to have a future. If you see your kids having a future in this country and I don't, it doesn't matter if Polyev gets in or not.

It's going to take a generation to unfuck what Trudeau has fucked. It's going to take at least a generation. The military, they'll take a generation to rebuild it. Because all the senior dudes like me and Jamie and all my friends who are, just recently left who were holding on for dear life. They've all given up. They're out. So all you have left now is the ones that have been, I'm not saying they're all

woked because they're not. There's still some good folk in there. But the majority of the ones in senior leadership positions are now being hen selected by the DEI princess. What do you do with that? You got to root all that out. Is Pollyev going to do that? Is he going to upset that Applecart?

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not one of these guys that says you can't vote your way out of a situation because it's the only situation, it's the only mechanism we have. And I hear a lot of people on the tour go, oh, we can't vote our way out of this. And I'm like, well, what are you going to do?

Go hot? You're going to get spicy? You're going to, what are you going to do? Because I've been to the places where they did that and it gets shitty quickly, real quickly. And earlier, you know, when we were talking about, you know, boots on the ground. here from some foreign force it might not be the Americans it might be might be

China or Russia it could be whoever because really we're that vulnerable then what you're gonna you're you're gonna do something you're gonna defend the country then how dangerous are you can you read a map and I'm not saying using your GPS because we won't have GPS if we get hit if somebody invades us the first thing they're doing is turning off our tech we will be techless and the starlink that you know they're trying to get rid of would be about the only thing that might save any form of organized resistance would be Starlink like it's doing in Ukraine where they gave them Starlink. Well, all these guys out east are trying to cancel those.

I think they got decancled those Starlink contracts, Ford being the complete obese Muppet that he is. What an idiot. Um, get in the buffet line. Um, this, how dangerous are these people? Do you know any first aid? Do you know any like trauma first aid? Do you can, if you can't read a map, where are you going? Do you have daddy shotgun? Is that how dangerous you are? So if I'm calling you out and you feel attacked because you're, you're sitting there at home thinking, I would defend the country, Chuck.

Okay. How? Think in your own head how. Don't put it on the Twitter. Hypothetically, there's boots on the ground from a foreign force here. What are you going to do? And if you're not a dangerous person today, what are you learning to become a dangerous human tomorrow? How are you becoming less shitty tomorrow than you are today?

physically can you do anything can you haul 80 pounds of gear on your back can you go for days like that without sleep and doing things do you have what it takes to take the pressure into a trigger and end another human because that's what you're going to be doing all day and all night until they get you and i'm telling you right now they'll get you these these are people that they've got this this will be monitored in a heartbeat this will be that'll be they'll have that tracked in a heartbeat so you can't use that any other comms i can tell you from my own experience any other comms be monitored and and electronic warfare real quick you'll be done drones it's not like we had like a handful of drones back you know 15 20 years ago when we were fighting every platoon

has a mini drone now like you see in ukraine that's how it'll roll so how dangerous are you going to be well i still got to do something tell me what don't tell me what in your head, figure out what you can really do. And if you can't do anything, if you can't garden, and I'm being serious, if you can't grow a garden and can, if you can't survive on your own a little bit, if you don't know the ratios of bleach to water to purify it, if you don't know how to read a map, and I mean with a compass, read a map effectively, you're going to be quasi-dangerous in the wrong direction. You lost but making good time.

You know, if you only have Daddy's Deer Rifle that you dust off once a year, and put 20 rounds a year through on the range thinking you're dangerous, you're not dangerous. If you were to be listening, okay, let's assume you have your firearms license here in Canada. Let's just assume. But if you don't, I would suggest that. I would suggest you get it. Yeah.

One of the things we've been working on with Prophet River here in Lloyd, and they ship Canada wide, is tracking people, and that sounds bad, but like as a way to, you know, incentivize people going to there instead of wherever else, is you get entered in each month for, whether you just buy some bullets or you buy a gun or you buy an optics, a scope, sorry, on and on. You can spend 20 bucks and you're in for 100 bucks

gift card each month now. That's the tip of the iceberg with working with Profit River and working on some things to try and, you know, because I know people who go in there and buy stuff. So use promo code SMP. There's myself as plucked. What I want to know from Chuck is like, okay, you got daddy's rifle, but you're like,

but what you should be doing, like if you could go into Prophet River tomorrow or online for that matter, and you're like, you should get one of X. Is there anything like that? You're like, oh, yeah, you should be doing this. I don't even know what's accessible right now because I've got, I have all my X.

So, I would say you need some form of legal. I'm talking in legal terms. Yeah, yeah, no, no, but I'm talking legal. I'm talking about Proff River. One of the things I like about Proff River is you're going to make sure you're not buying something under the back of some station wagon in the back alley. You're going to, you know. You need some form of weaponry that you can use to defend yourself and your family and your

properly. Yeah, but do you go shotgun rifle? rifle, always rifle. Why? Is this going to get gruesome? No, no. I can't figure out if I'm pulling Chuck into a weird comedy. No, no.

Look, everybody will have their own, you know, shotgun this, shotgun that. Look, yeah, it's got its place. I'm not saying it doesn't. Rifle. I've used it in all kinds of situations that every, from meteor range, ranges, longer ranges, the rifle is your best all round. Um, you need some sort of carry vest. You need great footwear, not good footwear, you need great footwear.

What, what is the difference between good footwear and great footwear? Being able to go for 20 kilometers with 80 pounds in your back or going two kilometers and ruining your feet. Like, and doing 20 kilometers day in day out, day in, day out. Like, good footwear is shitty footwear, honestly. You need great footwear, like something like an oboes, uh, climbing, or not climbing shoe, but like a mountain shoe or a mountain boot. They, they're what I prefer.

Like those things will last forever. They're Gortex. They're, they're supportive. They don't wear out. They don't cripple your feet. Um, but again, tailor that to your own thing. You need, I can't give everybody the shopping list. The shopping list is all the stuff you need to, to, to.

But you already have. You say you can't give the shopping list, but you're like, you know, if you're a legal firearms owner in Canada and nothing else changes, one of the things I would use, have as a tool, as a rifle. Yeah. And all I'm pointing out is I got a company in Prophet River that I've partnered with. They've been along for this ride for a long time now. And basically you're like,

Yeah, I'd probably go with the rifle. I'd probably get some ammunition. You know, one of the conversations that happened at the last cornerstone forum, going all the way back to where we started, was gold, Bitcoin, or bullets. And there was a strong argument for having ammunition as your form of currency, if the world ever... It will be. It will be a form of currency, yeah. Even putting small game on the dinner table, thousands of 22 rounds in your inventory, is a must.

Even shotgun ammo. I'm not saying don't have a shotgun. No, no, but once again. If you can have one thing. You'd have a rifle. Yeah.

And it would be, yeah, a good rifle. And look, again, because Chuck has offended a lot of people on the right here today, who are ardent gunnies and maybe you're,

you're like me and you're a redneck truck driving, big dog, you know, guy who, who does get to the range more than the average bear, that's good. I don't, but you need to be,

you need to, you need to start looking at a lot of stuff to be actually dangerous. I don't think my audience is easily offended anymore. I don't think they are either. I mean, we literally started out. I put out a poll the other day

to see how many people listened to every single episode. Quite a few. I was like, oh yeah. I catch as many as I can either walk the dog. So you think about that, 800 plus 100, I mean, if you, if you aren't offended by the 800 and the journey I've been on, right?

Because I've turned off a lot that have never come back, right? Whether it was COVID, politics, religion, faith, I guess, independence or the sovereignty thought process, spiritual warfare. I mean, it goes on and on and on. We've done the gambit, haven't we? And we plan on doing more. So if you aren't turned off by any of that, and you're still here after 800 episodes, check has not offended you.

Because you haven't offended me, I find it very interesting. interesting. If you're hopping on for one episode and you're easily offended, I'd just say go back to the start and listen through it all. And then, and by the end of that, you probably will not be offended anymore. And, you know, I also don't expect if a foreign force, whoever they are lands in our soil, I don't expect, it's not an expectation I have of people to do anything. But I don't see that, if that happens, we're fucked. We are. Like, we're in the middle of a war zone because the U.S. comes up, like immediately. Yeah. The U.S. going to sit back and worry about how it looks. They're coming up. They're coming up. But as soon as that happens, it's like, forgive me, the devil plays his card and you see him for who he is. Yeah.

So that ain't happening. This shadow game thing, even though as bad as it looks on the liberals, we're still like, you know, it's not that bad. It's like, it's not that bad. Like, look at everything they've done over the course of Justin Trudeau's reign. It's pretty freaking bad. And it just gets worse. But that isn't enough to wake up people.

So I go back I mean I'm I'm I'm circling around I just To me You're talking about being ready for what The worst The worst And the worst can mean a lot to a lot of different people

And if you get offended by You don't haven't thought this through Maybe you haven't Because I listen to you and I'm like I haven't thought that through People live in this Red Dawn fetish Larp world Where I don't live in that world A lot of people do

And I get hit up on Twitter with it on the regular with this. Oh, I know it's not real, but this is, this is, but it's also a, a good spotlight on where a lot of mindset is. Sure, sure. And, um, and folks, you know, oh, look, they lost in Vietnam and they couldn't win Afghanistan. Look, I'm telling you, these are not the conscripts in Vietnam.

This isn't that army. This is a different generation of two, two or three generations removed now. And Afghanistan, I never saw the Americans or us or the British lose a fight. our governments threw away a completely winnable war. The governments threw that away. We'd smash the Taliban into oblivion how many times. And then instead of, you know, taking that and doing something with it, they, they slow played everything. They just, they fucked it up.

And then they withdrew. It wasn't because the Americans lost fights. The Americans don't lose fights typically. They, in my experience, will steamroll the shit. out of whoever they're facing. And then, but Trump is also not a war monger. He's not going to send troops here.

I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I could be wrong. Maybe I'll be horrible. I'll be ready, but I could be horribly wrong. He's going to leverage the way he does. He's a businessman.

He will leverage and he's already done it. Canada's as polarized as it's ever been since COVID or even the last 50 years probably. And it's working for him. He's got these Muppets on Team Canada side booing. He works for him. too because he gets to feed that down there they've already done you know their own thing down there with us and then he's got the guys who are kind of like me where it's like you know what I don't see the 51st thing being a bad deal I would be treated better under their program

their system that I am here my kids would have a future I'd get first amendment rights I'd get second amendment rights I don't need much more than that and my kids would have a future your kids would have a future if you think your kids have a few I've said it before already today if you think your kids of a future the way things are going in this country and if you don't for a second think that Pollyev's going to fix it in four years I think he's going to do what he can middle of the roadish sort of kind of unless people stay really engaged unless they stay really engaged and I don't even know what that means I honestly

nor do I it's a sound bite it's not untrue. It's just what do you mean engaged? Because if people do try to, I know there are people out there with nothing but time who do try to stay engaged. Well, I think of how powerful the machine that Elon has taken over has been. Oh, yeah.

You look at immigration, right? One of the big clips that came out of, but I mean, she said it on here, but wanting to grow the population, doubling it. 10 million and, you know, I was like, oh. And then I got framed in Twitter exploded on there. Kirk Lubamoff had put it out

and it went to the moon and back and all of a sudden a whole bunch of things just started unraveling and now if you look at Canada we're like against immigration we're literally gonna just snip it off and you're like that's pretty wild like the power of social media right now

can change things very rapidly so staying engaged from a media standpoint a journalistic standpoint actually makes a ton of sense to me it's just if Pierre gets in a lot of the public's going to go back to sleep thinking we're fine on we go he's at the wheel we got this now yeah let him take the wheel and fix all the things there's a there's a ton of

content creators podcast tv i mean you just saw a canis malcolm and uh keem bexty uh their their new juno news right and and on and on like i talk about that yeah there's a there's a whole bunch of new people that are uh my woebe still smells like so did you see that article they wrote with um I feel like you have a story. Oh, do I? So I don't know if you saw their June and news story the other day with, I'll take it off. The, a Canadian soldier wearing, this is a shamog. We all wore them, if you left the wire, you wear a shmog.

They're, you wrap your face in for us. For people listening, what is it, a scarf? It's essentially a scarf. Yeah, it's a, hold it up a bit. It's just a scarf that, you know, I think the British started using them many, many, many years ago in the desert and you you wear them around your neck you wrap your face in them when it's dusty um they absorb all the sweat they keep your gear from crafing your neck too much um they just got a million uses you snuggle with it it smells like horrible um it's your wooby or one of your

willbies um well this soldier Canadian soldier he's wearing a shamog like in the picture and Unfortunately, Juno knows, writes this big article about he must be pro-Palestinian, Hamas terrorists, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And every veteran, I think every other veteran in the country must have messaged me and said, do you see this shit? And I'm like, oh, my God. I read the first paragraph and I'm like, oh, my God, they don't. They don't know. They don't know. So then every veteran started posting pictures of them wearing a shemog overseas.

Like that, look, it's a small thing. but get some shit right too. Like, come on, guys. Like, well, if you're going to do a news, I don't know, source that honors military. Yes. That's the reason behind Juno. Yes.

And then get a story wrong about the military. Horribly wrong. That's a tough. Like, you're not going to find too many vets who left the wire without one of these. Like it's, or a few of them. I have a green one too, but it's not a stylish. But the um you got to look good. Yeah, it's just a small thing.

And I appreciate them both. I do. I do. They're, I think they both do decent work. I expect I really like the work she does. I like her attitude about things. Um,

when she was on here with you. Um, she's got a very optimistic, although realistic view as well of where things are. I mean she, like she didn't tell me anything about Juneau news when we were doing it. It was a couple days later. Now thinking back to some of the things she said, I'm like, oh,

she was literally. about to announce Juno knows. And she told me after she was done, she was literally getting on a plane to go sit with Pierre Poliov. I'm like, interesting, right? She's a sharp cookie.

She is. Her husband is what, the CEO of Shopify? You're like, yeah, that's a connected lady. She, well, in her resume, she's done a lot. Well, worked at Sun News

with Chris Sims years ago, right? This, I'm hoping this one article was a speed bump or a, glitch or a hiccup or oh yeah it is what it is but it did there the judo nose is you know supposed to kind of be focused on certain things and this is kind of a a thing that every guy in the last 20 years that went overseas knows about knows about like that's a big oops it's a big oops you know it is what it is I mean I'm sure everybody will get over it I'll get over it it's a laugh now but I mean at the time it's kind of like are you fucking kidding me like like

because I've got some pretty racy pictures of me wearing that over there where, you know, clearly not a terrorist. Well, probably not a terrorist. So it's just one of those things, right? And I don't know where we're heading. You talked about this organic moment. I just don't know. And I think a few months ago, we all had this feeling like a little euphoric feeling where,

you know what, Pollyev's going to get in. And it may not all get fixed, but it'll be a way less shitty than. we are right now. And now that feeling has gotten yoink, got yoined hard. Well, it's interesting. We're going to find out a lot about our country here very soon, right? This kind of sitting in the middle limbo. Limbo waiting has been painful. Oh, it's the worst. Right? Limbo is the worst. Yeah. Well, Chuck, appreciate you coming in doing this. I had a little fun. It was always a lot of fun. Yeah, appreciate. Well, Sinclair, I know you're listening somewhere and we'll make sure the next time we we sit in the studio we we had a couple boys in

but uh appreciate you driving out and doing this always appreciate your your thoughts on the current state of Canada and everything else and as the audience certainly knows and I know it won't be the last time well appreciate being out here we'll add to your silver stack ah good good hopefully Jamie makes it next time