Shaun Newman Podcast - #817 - LTC Steven Murray

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

LTC Steven Murray is a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel who served as an Information Warfare Officer and Cyber Defense Battalion Commander. With extensive experience in cyber operations and intelligence, he commanded units supporting the United States Pacific Command, U.S. Army Pacific Forces, and the National Security Agency. He was deployed to Iraq during Operation Enduring Freedom, earning a Bronze Star, and has held roles such as Chief Information Security Officer for a large medical company. Currently, Murray is known for his analysis of current events, focusing on information warfare, censorship, and global politics.Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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I'm talking about retired lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by retired lieutenant colonel Stephen Murray. Sir, thanks for hopping on. Oh, always a pleasure, my friend. Always.

Well, I was driving home from Calgary last night. And as I'm driving, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, I wonder what Steve thinks about all this stuff going on with Canada, the United States, because the last time I had you on, I thought you were going to say one thing. And then you threw me on a left hook. And you're like, Canadians, wake up. We can't have one big conglomerate of a country. That's an agenda 2030.

And then it's kind of ebbed and flowed up on this side. There's been a lot of talk out here in Alberta. And I thought, I had Tom Luong go on. And I thought, I wonder what Steve's got to say about this. And we don't have to stick on that for very long or we can for a long time. It doesn't matter me. I just your name came up in conversation. Now that's why I reached out.

You know, so I reached out to Tom after the interview because I love watching those two guys because, first of all, Tom and Alex are wicked smart guys, right? So you listen to him and you're like, didn't think about that, didn't think about that, didn't think about that. But I want to touch on two things related to this. So, no, I think Canada needs to stay its own country. I unequivocally think that Canada should stay its own country and not be a part of the EU, not be a part of the U.S., because the identity of the country and the culture of the country

shouldn't change. That said, you have a lot of liberals up there that are retarded. And I just, they're just retarded. Totally bought into the whole. SIEOP, totally bought into the whole narrative, can't get out of it, retarded. Right. So here's the systemic issues that I see that need to be solved in order for the US and the EU and Canada to all live and peacefully coexist. First of all, you need to get rid of the Chinese. Chinese have to go. Chinese infrastructure, Chinese protection

details, they all need to go from both the US as well as from Canada. and across Europe. They're everywhere. That's first thing. The second thing is can't join the EU. You're retarded too. It's run by pedophiles. It's run by crazy people. I don't know why you would want to sign up for that. Just look at what they're doing in the UK and Ireland right now. I mean, we had an MMA fighter in the White House. When was the last time you saw that? I don't even have words for that. Talk about denigrating the office of the president. I mean, he's probably a nice guy, but put an MMA fighter up talking about what's going on in Ireland because you don't have diplomatic relationships with the Irish government.

Come on. There's too many parts about that that don't add up. Then the whole discussion around Greenland, which is retarded, because you're going to take a Danish colony and you're going to say that, yeah, be a part of the U.S. You'll be richer. Okay, how's that working out for the Americans right now? Are Americans any richer because of this leadership? No. So I think the whole conversation, to be perfectly honest, is just like Tom says, it's maneuvering.

And it's Trump really pimping everybody else to get a reaction out of him and nothing more. I don't think he's serious about Greenland. I don't think he's serious about the two countries joining. What I do think he's serious about is making sure that the EU doesn't expand over to Canada and North America. There's definitely a fight going on there. I don't know who it's between. I don't think it's between governments.

I think it's between elite. And one of the thing that I wanted to talk through that I thought, first of all, Tom was channeling me during his rants about civility because I, and I even said that to him. I said, you were channeling through you because that's exactly how I see the world. One of the biggest criticisms I get is I'm very raw. I don't talk around the problem. I talk right to it.

And I'll call spade a spade of spade. And I do that because Tom's right. Civility is a construct to keep you away from criticizing or being direct about anything related to the UK or the British Empire. And right now, to me, they're the biggest threat to the rest of the world. they're rapidly becoming a Muslim country. And the fact that you have the king now doing, celebrating Ramadan, that's a pretty substantial shift in both policy as well as culture.

And I don't see how the, you know, the British people are okay with that, especially given the fact that this guy openly hates his own subjects. Can you make it more obvious? And I won't even go down the road to the satanic picture that they're portrait of him that they unveiled because I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he was shocked when he saw it. But that said, could you could that be any more satanic? So there's a host of issues around all this but I really think this is a it's a conflict between two different sets of elites. And that's where it lands, how it lands. I don't know. But I think it all revolves around currency. I think it all

revolves around debt. I think it all revolves around who's going to be the dominant force. And Tom talks about Cypher and LIBOR, I think I'm pronounced that right, and how that's a resurgence of LIBOR and how they want to, you know, offload the debt to Europe, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know how much of that's true, but I think Tom's right. I think ultimately this is about currency. That's where my head's at. I was a long answer for a short question, but there's a lot wrapped up in there. Well, it's interesting because on this side, you know, we've been, you know, When you first came on and talked about Canada not, like you should not do that. I think most Canadians would agree with you.

But then as it goes on and you see us starting to align with Europe, I think Western Canada is like, we got to get the hell out of here. This is not, no, what they're doing over there, aligning us with Europe, Freeland talking about putting nuclear powers on the, you know, aligning with that. You're like, what are we doing? What are we actually doing? Now we got King Carney or whatever you want to call them, whatever nickname you want.

We got Carney sitting there. Now is the new prime minister. He's dark, that's who he is, dark city. Yeah, the dark lord. He is, he's obviously a plant. And I've said this, I say this, I get criticized sport all the time. They always replace one terrible leader with another. Turto was terrible in so many different ways.

So the communist thing didn't sell. So now they're off to let's go. join the EU. At the bottom, at the end of the day, they need to write down the debt. They need to reset the currency. So they're going to do whatever it takes to reset the currency, but at the same time, they don't want the resources to go to the U.S. And I vehemently opposed to geographic economic zones that are run by bankers. And look, and let me just clarify this. So everybody's on the same page. I'm not a, I'm not a Trump fan. I don't care about who the renter in the White House is.

That's a four-year minimum security prison sentence for anybody that signs up for it, and you're controlled by handlers. I know that because I've worked in that entire area for most of my career, Pentagon, all the agencies. Trust me when I say this. The president's not in charge. He makes decisions, but a lot of things across his desk, he doesn't even read. Here, President, sign this. Here, Mr. President, sign this. Here, Mr. President, sign this.

Right? So get away from Trump. Trump and his trolling. The real issue here is what kind of a culture do you want to live in? Do you want to live in a culture where the, but clearly they're moving towards a communist country, because that's what it is. All of the EU is communists now with the censorship. And I've been banned for life in the EU. I wouldn't even travel to the EU because I'm sure as soon as I get off the plane, I'll get rolled up. That's how bad it's gotten. And because I've been openly criticizing the Crown, Parliament, all the leadership over there,

The WHO, you name it. I've criticized all of them. And do you want to live in that kind of a country? Because that's where you're headed if you go to the EU. And then the other question is, and I've said this to Americans too, because we're facing the same question. We have a technocracy that they're trying to build in the background. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, all those guys.

They put in a good face, right? Doge is doing yeoman's work. But at the same time, Palantiers take. over and part of the reason why I left the military is I saw a lot of this moving the right direction and nobody was listening and I you know purposely said look we're building all this infrastructure to track terrorists and we're tracking more Americans than we are tracking terrorists so tell me how this is helpful to national security this is detrimental because at some point leaders change the pendulum shifts and guess what you have somebody on the other side that hates

Americans and they're collecting on Americans and I spent the last two years of my my career arguing with general officers. It's one of the reasons why I didn't take a promotion and go to, you know, take a flag somewhere for the simple reason that I couldn't willingly go along with collecting on American citizens. I got into my skin like a like a rash. And that's what you're signing up for if you go to Europe. So, and we're, we're going to have to at some point, this will be a revolution here. Let me just call a spade of spade. At some point, we're going to pick up farms against this government. I don't care who's in charge because they've been in office 58 days now. Nobody's been arrested. Nobody of significance has been fired. Nobody's been perp walked.

And the whole Epstein debacle, which let me just zero in on that for a second. So everybody kind of gets a flavor for why this is important. It's not so much the Epstein files that are important. It's who's the belly button that ran the blackmail ops, and we all know who it is, and why they're obfuscating it, because it came out today in the JFK release. The only thing the CIA wanted scrub from all of the records was Israel, Israel's involvement. What was Mossad's involvement in Epstein? It's widely believed that Mossad ran the operation because Gisling Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a Mossad asset. You could make the leap. And if that's the case and they're scrubbing the, scrubbing the books right now, we're never

going to see any justice. And Trump's created an existential crisis for himself. At the end of the day, Americans want, they want accountability. They want people to see justice. And I'm not talking just the Clintons or the Obamas. And that those whole, clans, the whole Obama clan, the whole Clinton clan, they don't just need to come to justice. I want to know who was the puppet master behind Barack Obama because he's truly the Manchurian candidate. He was truly controlled as a CIA asset by John Brennan. I want to know who was controlling John Brennan. All those questions have to be answered in Trump's term. Otherwise, he will be the most despised president in American history. And he's already separated himself from his

base by supporting Israel to, you know, to an extreme, mostly American public's like, we don't vote for this. But if you go back to this convention, you can see that his whole convention was about make Israel great a grant. And Americans didn't sign up for that. And you're seeing the growing resentment every day more and more. And the same should be true in Canada. And my point of saying all this is, what's your line in the sand? What is the line that they cross? What is the freedom they take away from you that drives you to pick up arms against your government. Because we have a moral, I'm a field grade officer. I have a moral obligation to defend the Constitution at all costs. So my line in the sand is when they purposely get us into a war, purposely sell us down the river,

purposely crash our economy, guess what? I'll be the head of the insurgency. And that's that's the question you have to ask is what's the line in the sand for us? And then how do we organize to go against this, right? You don't have to pick up arms to bring the country to a standstill. You can go full stop. Like, you know why they were so scared of the truckers? I could tell you why they were so scared of the truckers. And it wasn't the horns.

It was the solidarity that was growing across the country for them. They knew if it got to a certain point, they couldn't control it. And it would be a civil war. They knew it. That's why they clamped down so hard. And it was all about fear and intimidation. What I will contend to you, there's not enough of them to stop all of us. And you bring a country full stop and stop everything economically.

Guess what? You're going to have the bike and you're going to dictate what you want. So you don't have to pick up arms, but there's a lot of things you could do to disrupt their operations. And that's really the question Canada should ask right now, what's our line in the sand? Because if Mark Carney wanted to join the EU, trust me, I'd take that country full stop in a nanosecond. And I would make it painful, especially for the elite in Ottawa that seem to control your entire parliament. I would make it so painful for them. I would target every one of their businesses, and I would shut them down for weeks.

No commerce, no money. Guess what? They'll feel that. You look like you're deep in thought, which is probably. priceless. Well, I just, in one breath, I appreciate the sentiment. In another breath, I'm like, I went to Ottawa. You know, was there 10,000 people there? Was there 20,000 people there? You know, how many thousands of people there? I'll give it this, the entire country and maybe the entire world stood and watched for 20-some days. You know, like they paid attention. Like, I don't know. I go, I, the way my brain plays out, The next little bit is here in Canada, it's weird.

And I said this to Tom, and I'll say it again, right? Like, we don't have a set election date. Isn't that a weird thing to just, like, admit? Nobody can tell me, rate this moment. Everyone's like, oh, they're signaling. There's signaling of an election coming. That's a bunch of BS. That's what most communist dictators do is they signal.

They're going to do an election. And then you go vote for them and they vote themselves back in like Maduro did. How is that any different? It's just a big game. So we're staring at this, and I'm like, well, I don't know. Justin Trudeau was, you know, a moron, but a clever moron. And he found a way to stay in power for quite some time. And he did a lot, a lot of bad to this country.

And then on the world stage, he wasn't great. But he had handlers just like everybody else. And then you see Mark Carney get plopped in. And you're like, holy crap. Like to me, I'm like, holy crap. Anybody else seeing this? Canadians just cruising along. You know, once again, audience, I know you're there, and I know there's a lot of people staring at this going, holy crap.

But the people listening to you are not the problem, right? Correct. They're listening to you. It's all the other morons that are on the left that are like signed up to go get their next booster that don't have any idea that their health problems that are declining are correlated to the two because somebody on TV told them that, hey, everything's fine. Everything's awesome. Never mind, the walls of the house are on fire. The windows are all blown out. front doors off the hinges. Everything's fine. Everything's awesome. Don't worry about it. That's

the U.S. too. It's not just, it's not just there. That is the downstream effects of a highly effective information operations campaign to influence the public. And they've done it across every media, right? So some people I don't blame. And part of the other problem is, and I said, I talked about this last night, my situation report. there's no source of truth, period, anywhere on the planet. There's, there's, I only know of two sources of truth in the U.S. that are actually doing journalism. I mean, real journalism.

That's the Washington Pundit and Revolver. News. Those are the only two sources that I know of that actually vet all their sources before they print anything and publish anything. And have, knowing Dr. E.C. and, uh, uh, the staff over at Washington Pundit, that I can tell you that their stated objective is to publish everything with sources that they could back up in court. That's journalism.

That's the way it's supposed to work. And, you know, Adam Carter over there, you know, I've been trading messages with him for, I don't know, three, four years now. And I asked him, what's the hardest thing to source? He said the truth because there's so much obfuscation. There's so many, so many misdirection, so much misdirection, so many lies, it's hard to sift your way through it. And you've got to give Tracy Beans is another, but she's more focused on the political spectrum than actually on events, right? And everything that they're publishing is after the fact.

So there's really no source of truth for the current moment. And that's what most populations need. And I'll give you, for instance, of why this is important. For the last, I don't know, 100 years, we've been told that there's nothing under the pyramids, that the pyramids were built by slaves with, you know, devils and with, you know, pulleys, et cetera. And just yesterday, there was a release, and I think it was Greg Miller that did it. I'll tell you exactly who it was. but they did synthetic aperture radar against one of the one of the pyramids and again i haven't vetted this to see if it's absolutely true but if if greg's put it out on i'm pretty sure that it's real

anyway the point is that i think it's greg miller anyway the point is they did a synthetic aperture radar scan of the pyramids and realize that there's structures that go two meters down underneath it that are perfectly aligned north to south and two columns of four and there's five structures within the center of it that are all symmetrical and all aligned as well guys with picks and hammers three you know three thousand years ago are not going to be able to do that so obviously there's something about the pyramids we haven't been told and there's obviously new information that's going to galvanize and change what we think about history I'll make the premise to you that 90% of what we've been told about our history is a lie anyway.

And half of what you're hearing right now is a lie. The other half is obfuscation and maybe one percent of it's true. And I'll use a real world example or I can say that for a fact. I was told before I, so I got a call from Iraq, a guy that I used to work with, called me and say, hey, I need your help. Are you willing to volunteer and come over here and do an assignment over here? This is 2004. It was January 2004.

And I said, yeah, I'll make the request of G3 tomorrow. So, you know, it took me four months to get on the ground. Finally got on the ground over there. Everything I had been told when I got on the ground in Texas was a complete lie. There was no plan. The coalition provisional authority didn't have enough manpower, didn't have enough organization, didn't have anything to be able to operate the country. We were still basically in charge.

And that 911 services and a few other services that we said were up, were completely that was a sham so even the stuff that we were hearing going into country was a sham and if if i apply that same logic to everything else that's that i've been told i could tell you that 99% of what you're hearing right now is complete lie along with our history complete lie so i think what we're in the process of seeing is we're seeing three things we're seeing the collapse of western civilization as the control grid the legacy control grid collapses right because they're losing control. And what a control freaks try and do when they lose more control, they try and garner more control. So we're watching that both Europe, the U.S., as well as Canada,

and the eastern countries as well as China. All those systems are starting to implode. And we're probably well on the way to imploding regardless of what Trump wants, regardless of how much Doge saves, how much spending we cut. It doesn't matter. I think the die is already cast. We're also seeing at the same time a bunch of disclosure around a lot of different topics right now. And I'm not just talking about the UFO stuff. I'm talking about historical things that have been obfuscated. The pyramids is just, that's just one piece. And if that's, if that, and I'm just going to say, if that's just one percent true and there's structures underneath the pyramids, that's earth changing. That changes everything we know about history in a nanosecond.

And then it conjures up the question, what were the pyramids really, for. Why is their alignment in a certain order? Why are they set up with structures underground? Are they power sources? Are they big honk in space guns? What are they? What were they designed to do? Because there's obviously a purpose if there's underground structures with a support system, right? You don't have to be an engineer to figure that out. So my point of this is, and then the third thing is, with the disclosure, we're going to see a cultural change and a cultural shift that most of us probably won't be expecting the direction it goes in. And I think I'm not going to say enlightenment because that's kind of a hokey woo word, but I think the culture across the planet is going to change because of some of

these disclosures. And I've been told personally that there's going to be technology released within the next six months that's going to revolutionize the way we live. Okay, I'll believe it when I see it. But, you know, when you hear that from people inside the system that you've worked with for years, you pay attention to it, right? So I'm I've heard it from a couple of different sources now inside the system. I don't know how true it is. I don't know if it's operational. I don't know.

But the fact that, that was it, I can't think one of the big contractors from Iraq just released battery technology that supposedly revolutionizes lithium ion batteries. That's part of the disclosure as far as I'm concerned. They're slowly releasing technology that's going to change the way we operate. And I'll use a case of point so people can see where I'm going with this. Imagine a battery that lasts 40 years. So you buy one battery at last 40 years. You don't have to worry about replacement. Think about how that would revolutionize electric cars.

Think about how that would revolutionize everything in your home that requires a battery. You go from having 300 batteries in your house to having one or two or four. That would revolutionize the way we live. and it would change the way we do recycling, change the way we do, you know, disposal of goods and services, along with, you know, the topic that's been in, is anti-gravitic.

So let's say we've mastered anti-gravity. Imagine what that would do to the building industry, the vehicle industry, the shipping industry, the airline industry overnight. It would change the entire world overnight. And I think that would change our culture in ways that we probably can't comprehend right now. So I look back at the development of the aircraft, right?

And I look at how the aircraft, over 10 years, completely revolutionized the way we as humans lived and traveled on the planet. And I can only imagine how fast that incremental change will exponentially change the culture if that's true. Like, you can have a house that doesn't need to be on a foundation. It can literally leverage. which means it's impervious to earthquakes. I mean, you stuff to deal with weather,

but with any gravity comes other things too, right? So you can see where I'm going with that, right? It just the release of some of those technologies would revolutionize the way we live. And it would also destroy the control grid because it would drive things in a direction that the elite can't control. And I think it's going to do a lot to change religion as well. So we'll see. I, you know, this year is, it's,

The interesting thing this year is if you talk to anybody, and I know you're going to talk to Sherita, so I'll leave the numerology piece of it to her. She's told you that I finally got in touch with her, did she? Oh, yeah, yeah. I talked to her every day because, look, I need to put this out too, right? Because I take a lot of flack order. Never mind my four-legged wrecking crew behind me. She's my neurotic one. If she's not doing something, she's digging or chewing into something.

something, she's a working dog, so got to keep her busy. But the numerology aspect is what the elites use to plan their events. It's what they use to plan their calendar. It's what they use to align with the satanic calendar. Look, it's not my domain. I don't understand it. And she'll tell you, she'll be the first one to tell you. In fact, you should ask her, do you have to chip it down for the colonel? And she will tell you, yes, I have to chip it down for him. Because I don't get it. It's not my domain. I've tried to study it. I've tried to figure it out. And I still, to this day, I cannot. figure it out. It's just not in my wheelhouse. But if

somebody can figure that out, figure out how the enemy plans, I can tell you we can disrupt all their operations in a nanosecond. And that's really where we need to be. So, yeah, kind of with Tangerial on there. But I see those three things happening this year and next year. And it's like

a freight train. The elite can't stop. It's going to change us in ways we just can't imagine right now. So, yeah, let's leave that there. Well, it's, it's, in one breath, Steve, it's a hopeful look, right? Like you're talking about monumental things going on and the fact that it would disrupt the elites. I just feel like the elites will try and control it.

Why do you have the sense that the elites won't be able to get ahead of this and find ways to just do what they've always done? Because I think the difference is, and let me circle back a little bit. So the one thing I've seen since January 1st. So I was going to walk away from all this online stuff back in January. Go live my life. Go live a quiet life with a beautiful woman and just call it good. That's really what I wanted to do, right? And I've said all along, if things go peacefully and we transition to Trump and things are peaceful,

I'm going to stop doing this and go back to my life and go play with guns and do my thing as a gunsmith. But what I've realized is a lot of people are waking up. And I use this example because it's priceless. My sister was a staunch liberal. I mean, staunch liberal. And my older brother pointed her to Mike Benz. And so I get this phone call. I'm tinkered around my house.

I get this phone call from my sister. She goes, I owe you an apology. I'm like, what for it? Because I was so wrong and you were so right. He goes, I listen to Mike Benz. You know, yes. I go, yeah, I've talked to Mike on the phone several times. He's nice guy.

He's like, my God, he's talking. And I'm like, that's what Steve said. That's what Steve said. That's what you were saying this stuff 10 years ago. And I go, yeah, you're crazy till you're not. I said, but now you're awake. So what are you going to do? She goes, I'm going to go tell all my friends to listen to this guy.

And I'm going to start, you know, evangelizing to listen to Mike Bens and to a few others that you've recommended. So people really realize what's going on. And I think we're seeing a title shift in the population waking up. And it's only going to accelerate. And the other part of that is, as people, and this is why I talked about the line of the sand, I think when they try and implement some of these control grids, the one thing I learned in Iraq is that the enemy was ingenious at communication. So no matter how much they try to limit and censor communication, I mean, we went to the

extremes to shut down social media, to shut down radio communication, to jam things. You know, they still found ways to communicate around us. And they were highly effective at it. And it was creative stuff. Like a guy in a bike would run down the road and figure out where all the jammers were. And they would go cut power to it or cut the power lines going into the building. And we thought we were all clever and, you know, moving stuff around so they couldn't interdict it. They still found it.

They still found ways to communicate. They would, they would communicate by with signals that took us months to figure out how they were doing it. They would use email accounts. They'd go into an email account. They'd have 10 people share it. They transfer all their messages in a draft. We didn't, you know, we weren't intercepting it because they would never get transmit. But they were all getting the messages and they were using the technology that we were supposedly

dominant on. Information superiority and the nitwits who wrote that down at Leavenworth. I hope they're all fired by now. But the point is, is that we learned a lot from that about how adaptive the enemy could be. You don't think the Canadian people and American people aren't going to be adaptive. They are going to, one thing I know about North America. is that both Canada, and this is true for both the U.S. and Canada, innovation in both countries has always led the world, bar none.

The innovation that's come out of the U.S. over the last 50, 60 years, and out of Canada has been second to none when it comes to technology and figuring out ways to do things better. You don't think if they tighten the screws down, the guys like me are aren't going to go underground and figure out how to go around that, you can bet your ass I am. And I'm just the tip of the iceberg. And I've been in this game a long time. But there's guys that are younger than me that are way smarter, know way more technology, and know all the ways around it.

So I don't care if they put their best AI against us. We'll figure out a way around it. And that's how their control grid is going to fail because these subsystems will create outside of it. And you'll have a black market economy around all of their control grid that they will won't be able to control. And that chaos will eventually grow and tip over the system, and they won't be able to do anything about it. If you watch the matrix, you see this play out in a variety of fashions, but the complexity theory that was written about so many years ago, it really is

true. The more complex a system, the easier it is to bring it to its needs. And I've seen it happen time and time again. And watching the Iraqis do their, you know, their little gyrations to go around all of our countermeasures taught me a lot about the fact that people who want to be free are going to go to whatever length is necessary to ensure that freedom exists. And that's what we're seeing across the planet. But the other part of it is we're seeing across the planet this growing groundswell of people that want accountability. They're tired of the, you know, the elites over in Europe and the EU because they're completely unaccountable. And they're doubling down right now. That's not going to work out for them when the UK drops into into a civil war.

especially Ireland's about to you know the tip over and it's about to go kinetic in Panama that's not going to go well for them and it's just a matter of time before that spills over too you can't control chaos and they think they can't that's how arrogant these people are and their arrogance is going to be their undoing and when it finally is their undoing you're going to see changes culturally that you probably have never never even anticipated seeing that's why i say this disclosure piece plays a part in it too. Because when you're introducing these unstable elements

into a semi-stable system, you're only going to get more instability. And we're literally on a knife edge of tipping over multiple cultures right now. The UK is probably closer to civil war than Ireland, but they're both on the edge. And if those two fall into civil war,

so does the rest of Europe. And it won't be a civil war, with, you know, blue and gray uniforms and guys carrying muskets. This is going to be an asymmetric fight that puts entire countries into chaos. Power goods go down, cyber issues, banking issues, you name it. When you talk disclosure, I understand what you mean by disclosure, but where's the disclosure coming from? And like, what time, like, what is prompting the disclosure? That I don't know.

It's being driven outside of the normal circles of control. I don't think this is a controlled release. I don't think a lot of these controls, these releases are, some of them are planned, some of them are not planned. And if you watch what's going on in the night sky, and I'll use several conversations I've had with airline pilots, when you get out over the Pacific or the Atlantic, you see stuff in space that doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. Moving in directions and speeds that don't match anything on the planet. And they're seeing more and more and more of that. Plus, has anybody seen the amount of space debris that's coming back to the planet?

How many things have burned up in the atmosphere in the last two years? I can tell you there's something going on in space. I don't know what it is. If it's a war, a terrestrial war in space between countries, which is more likely what I think it is. You know, U.S., Russia, China, all fighting it out for dominance in the space. Or if it's something else. But I could tell you that the fact that all this stuff has had, happening is getting harder and harder for them to obiscape that there's something going on.

So I think some of this is being driven out by outside forces. You know, I don't mean alien. I mean outside forces outside the U.S. and some of it's being driven within the U.S. by people that are in the system that know if this disclosure happens, they won't be able to control it and implement their plans. I think it's both. And I think that, you know, and I could be way off base. But I I listen to what's being pushed right now on the alien side of the house, which, let's face it, we're not alone. I'm just going to say that out loud. As crazy as that sounds, we're not alone. And people need to get ready for that because if you listen to Stephen Greer, Stephen Greer was on Alex Jones for two hours talking about UFOs, talking about reverse engineered craft, talking about, you know, alien contact, talking about, you know, benevolent and malevolent aliens that.

that we're supposedly in contact with. I don't know how much of that's true, but if you take 1% of that and you look at the possibility that we are in contact with another species, what would that do to the planet and the culture? And more importantly, if you knew that somebody was gonna come and make contact with you, you would have to disclose some of this technology

so the public's not completely shocked, right? Because their mode of operation since the 40s and 50s, since Roswell has been, the public can't know where there'll be mass panic. That's been their mindset. And I could tell you right now that I would bet you that probably 70% of the population go, huh, that's cool. What are they going to give us?

The other 30% would freak out. And that's the extremes on the left and right. They would freak out because they can't change their paradigms. But everybody else in the center would be like, okay, next. That's what it looks like from my perspective right now. And I don't, like I said, I don't know how much of it's real. But I could tell you, have worked in space and worked with some, satellites and worked with ICBMs, I can tell you, the ship burning up in the atmosphere is not a normal thing.

And stuff coming back down, you can say it's a rocket all you want. But there's obviously something going on because things don't burn up in space and burn up and reentry because it's planned. It's usually very unplanned. Like when a satellite's in orbit, right, either high earth or low earth orbit, you have to shoot commands to it. And we've automated that process to keep it on azmuth, right? Because it's always tumbling in space. It's always moving. So the last thing you want to do is give it a command where it turns the antenna away from you and he can't talk to it because then it becomes a dumb missile.

And you can't control it. And with so much traffic up there in space, things start to hit each other and you've got a traffic jam that's going to come to Earth and cause a lot of damage. So you spend a lot of time commanding satellites and keeping the birds in the air so that they don't hit other things. other things. For things to come down and burn up in the atmosphere, it means either something's terribly wrong with the control grid or there's something else at play and things are getting, get their strikes in, uh, in orbit. None of that's good for us.

So it, the other thing is it could be kinetic up there. I don't know, but the, the activity has been unusual and if you're not paying attention to it, you should. When you say kinetic in space, like, do you think, Like, does your brain go to actual dudes up there? Or do you just like, probably machine on machine? It's satellite on satellite. The Chinese and the Russians have weaponized space.

Go back to 2016, 2017 with General Raymond was in charge of when I first stood up Space Force. One of the first things he talked about back in 2017, 2018, was we do not want to weaponize space. but he knew way back then that the Chinese and the Russians were building kinetic systems for space. And these are satellites like, you saw the IRBM with the rods of God that they used. Imagine that in space. Imagine the kinetic energy of just 10 rods on a target here down on Earth. That would do a tremendous amount of damage. And assume it's already up there.

Assume they've already weaponized it. Assume that's why we're playing catch up right now. And assume that that's probably what's going on in space is a satellite on satellite. Do I think there's dudes up there in space suits? No. Have I told you about the two lights in the sky? I probably haven't told you this story. I'm driving home with my wife.

And we're in the middle of the countryside. You know, only way that in the middle of nowhere Canada can be, folks. And I'm looking, I'm like, what are those two? Like, what are those? and there's two two lights side by side up by the moon and i was thinking stars and then i was thinking probably satellites and then one of them just like like straight out of a movie it's like it was racing away from me as fast it could and disappeared like it warped i use warped but i know that i don't know if that's the word folks okay just like gone i'm like oh my god and i swat my wife i'm like

did you see that she's like see what i'm like am i going crazy i'm like there was two now there's one She's like, oh, yeah, that's interesting. I'm like, oh, my God, why aren't you interested in this, right? And then she goes back to doing whatever she's doing, and I'm driving, not trying to kill us, watching this last thing, and it does it. Gone. Two of them, side by side, zoom, zoom, and I'm like, what was that? That was ours.

That was ours. That was us. That was probably ours, yeah. And what is it? If I'm using Stephen Greer's logic, it was ours. It's our stuff. It's our stuff. They just made it up to hyperspace.

It's all good. Don't worry about it. Nothing to see here. Yeah, nothing to see here. Like, when you see that, you're like, well, obviously we have technology. They haven't told us about, but I literally got to see it with my own eyes. And I'd love to sit here and say I was smoking crack something, folks, or I was 18 beers deep. But I was dead sober.

I was just driving. I was like, that is wild. I said this on your last show, bro. I said this on your last show and I'll say it again. 20 years ago when I was a captain, and I saw a technology that will never make the light a day, and it was very advanced way back then. I can tell you unequivocally there's technology we have

that has not been released. And I've said this on your show before too. I know. I know. You know, what, 50 years since we went to the moon and we're still using brute force rockets to go to space? Get out of here. Come on. Get out of here. Sorry.

You look at jet development from prop airplanes in 1918, 1919, 1919 to 1945. we were in jets in less than 20 years. Then we were in we were in supersonic jets from the 50s until 70s and then we got hypersonic. Do you tell me we have an advance past hypersonic and rockets? Get out of here. Come on. There's obviously something they don't want to release because they know it's going to change the way the course of human history. And I would rather imagine that that technology is anti-gravitic. I think we mastered it in the 60s and the 70s and we've been, I mean, Think about it this way. We've been operating the 737 and the 767, the 787,

or the triple seven since the 70s and 80s. And here we are 35, 40 years later. We're still flying to 37. That thing's been flying for a long time. That production line in Renton has been going on almost 30, 40 years. And you're telling me we can't find a technology better than that. More fuel efficient, faster, quiet, you're telling me we can't I'm telling you they've the airline industry whether it's

archaic or not they still want to innovate too and where did all that R&D go where did all of the the think tanks go that we're thinking to do technology you think they've been working on drones for the last 30 years you think they've been you know killing themselves to come up with micro technology I'm thinking I'm sure there's part of it But we literally stopped evolving from a technology perspective in the 80s. We haven't really excelled past that except for AI and computer technology. But you're telling me that computer technology and all that AI can't come up with a better aircraft design than what we have now to move people faster, farther. I mean, come on.

You just start looking at it from that perspective and you look at the leaps that we've made. And we made exponential leaps from 1918 to 1945. Then we made another exponential leap into the 70s when we got the X, you know, the SR 71. And that was done in the 50s, 60s. You're telling me, past the SR 71, we never came up with something that could go faster than six or seven times a speed of sound. That was one of the fastest aircraft ever made. And we don't have anything better. I mean, there's lots of theories around it.

It's like the B2. If you notice, if you notice we haven't replaced the B2, what's supposed to be the B21, but they're lagging and dragging their feet on it. I wonder why that is. Is it because we have something better? And then start looking at all the missing money. We were missing what? $2 trillion back in 2001.

So ask yourself the question, where the money go? I'm telling you, there's, Stephen Gur is right about one thing. there is off the books programs and those off the books programs have technology that we probably can't imagine. And I'm going to go ahead. You brought up Panama. One of one of, and you said it might go Connecticut or that it's on its way there. One of the things, you know, I'd been lightly paying attention to. It's hard to keep up some days, Steve.

But the fact that Trump was talking about the Panama Canal. And then I believe, correct me if I'm wrong on this, that he was team. teaming up with BlackRock to basically buy different ports or to buy everything around the Panama Canal. What are your thoughts on that? So Trump has, again, yet another existential crisis, right? You have the same. Canada has the same problem. We have to kick the Chinese out of North America.

They've infiltrated North America. They did it through the Bidens. They did it through the two through Obama. They did it through the Clintons. They all took the money. At least, you know, it sure appears that way. I know the Bidens did. But they bought up a lot of the ports.

I don't know if you realize this, but the Chinese own a tremendous number of ports across the planet. In the background, while all of us were busy with hockey and football and all the other, you know, nonsense that we spend our time on, the Chinese were running around the planet for the last 20 years, buying up mineral rights, buying up mining rights, buying up waterways, water rights, buying a farmland. they were buying ports, they were buying technology centers. And Panama is a strategic hub for not only us, but for all of North America. And when Carter gave the canal away, first of all, it was a violation of, you know, the treaty we signed with them back in the 30s and an act of treason. But at the same time, it opened the door for our adversaries to come in and control a sea line of communication. But across the planet, there's multiple sea lines of communication, the Suez Canal, the South China Sea, the Panama Canal, a number of different places that are strategic lines of communication and sea lines of communication that we need to protect.

Panama is an existential part of North America. So Trump is using, I'm sure he didn't give Black Rock, he didn't give him the choice. He probably told Larry think you're going to go down there and you're going to purchase those ports because you have the capital to do it. We'll get you on the other side. But right now we won't control those ports. You're going to do it financially. Because remember, the Chinese are building a bridge across the Daring Gap and a road through the Daring Gap so they can continue infiltration into North America. So Trump has to kick them out.

Step one is to control the ports. Step true is to control the canal. step three is to put forces on the ground to protect the canal so that's what's going on right now and the panamanians that have taken the money from the chinese they're the ones that are fighting back causing the riots right now michael yon's been on the ground and if you if you go two days ago michael yon was on Alex jones you should go watch that interview it's about an hour and a half long but i guarantee you i talk to michael yon every day and that guy knows exactly what's going on on the ground because he's been in the Dary and gap since 2020 when all this started and he's seen an

influx of Chinese and we we sat down one night and tried to figure out how many people have crossed the border my team and I think estimate between 30 and 35 million have come across the border since 2020 he estimates somewhere of 42 million because it's not just the numbers that we engage with it's not just the numbers flowing across Panama canal remember we were flying them in we're We were bringing them in on boats. We were bringing them in in every way, shape, and form we could have. So the numbers we saw are probably a tenth of what was really brought into the country. And we were building houses for them.

We've got entire communities in Texas and other parts of the country that are all illegals that have been put into houses and given low interest loans, as well as a monthly stipend. And hopefully Trump's cutting all that off right now. So the whole point of it is to cut the flow of both the illegal aliens coming in, weapons coming in, coming in and everything else, including fentanyl, coming through the daring gap. And that's the other part of it is all that feeds into the border. So he's trying to slow the tide coming across, coming up from South America, but he's also trying to cut the Chinese off, and he's trying to cut off the supply going to the fentanyl labs in Mexico.

And you guys have a fentanyl problem, too, which I'm pretty sure is a catastrophe by now. So that's where the tariffs come in. And he's been given a lot of flack about the tariffs. But when you think about it, it's a brilliant idea because you make it more expensive for everybody around you to operate. And by the same token, it's the best leverage. So we'll see how that goes. There's a lot of different pros and cons to it. And I think he's on to something.

But the real answer. is we have to stop the flow of drugs. We have to do something about the narco state that is Mexico because it's it's not just Mexico. It's all of the southwest borders, right? Our governor here, I can tell you, Katie Hopps, she was installed by the cartels, along with Adrian Fontes, former cartel lawyer, the mayors in every city, the not the sheriffs because there's, there's, I know all the sheriffs and they're actually, with the exception of America up county, are all good sheriffs. But the point is the narco state has to be dealt with. And that's what all these pieces add up to. Think of it as a chess game. He's setting conditions right now so he can attack and starve the cartels out of all

their resources. And that's what that's what all these moves are about right now. Regain control of operation, regain control of the border, and then interdict all of the, the, the narco-trafficking that's coming across, including human trafficking. That's where it's all going. Now, does it turn into a hot war? Does it turn into a kinetic war? At some point, yes. But the question is, what is that going to look like when it does turn into that? And, you know, Brackens talked about that at nauseam. So is Ian Burlingame. Those guys have talked about it at nauseam. I don't know what that's going to metastasize to do, but it's going to metastasize into something. It's not, it, think of the cartels as a malignant tuner. It is going to grow and grow and grow until you cut it off and cut it out.

and Trump is setting conditions so he can do that. I don't know about the distraction over in Yemen and what that clown shows all about, but that to me is a military blunder as well as a tactical blunder. But our focus should be on the border and they should be on the cartels. Because that fight's going to take 10 years. And it's going to be right here in the streets.

Because the cartels are everywhere. They go all the way up to Washington State and into Canada. The Sinaloa cartel does at least. and there's five other cartels that go throughout the southwest all the way into the south and all the way up to New England. They have supply routes all the way through this country. They have safe houses all the way through this country. They have their own intelligence apparatus.

They have their own logistics apparatus. This is not some run-of-the-mill organization that we're dealing with. This isn't a terror cell. This is a very organized, very mature operation that's very, very violent. And I think Trump realizes that the people. around Trump realize that. And I think that's why they're setting conditions to cut them off so that they can't logistically move. And I think they know where all the funding sources are too. So that in a nutshell is why Panama is so important. And it's not just important for dealing with

the cartels in China. It's also our main shipping thoroughfare into the Caribbean. And you know, you'd be surprised how much shipping that comes into this country and we still ship things by rail to the East Coast from Western ports and then put it on ships on the East Coast and ship it across because it's faster than using the canal. And, you know, even with the canal traffic at a, at a moderate pace, still, they're still cheaper to go across the country via rail lines and then put it onto the ship and send it to Europe. So there's a lot of reasons why Panama is very, very important. And traffic flow is just one of them. Yeah, getting moving of goods when you talk about getting around the continent, having that.

It's just a strategic location, I guess, is what I'm trying to spit up. Vital to our strategic interest, vital. We should have never given it up. Why did you guys give it up? Why did Carter? You said Carter gave it away. I think, so back in the 70s, when a lot of these, when a lot of, you guys, you guys give it up. these institutional politicians came to power.

And I'll even go back to the 60s when we started offshoring all of our production, we started offshoring all of our manufacturing. That was really the start of the move away from the U.S. being a net manufacturer, net exporter to a net importer. And I think that the prevailing wisdom at the time, I don't know exactly what the conversation was. I've read so many different variations around his thought process. and it wasn't because he was a bleeding heart liberal that thought it was unfair that we had control

the canal. That's not even a factor in this. There was obviously foreign interests as well as domestic interests that thought that it was a good idea to give up the canal. But really, I think the canal was given up just so they could enable a lot of human trafficking that's been going on in open view in the last four years. That's been going on since the canal. We gave the canal away. I mean, we limited a lot of a lot of different things by occupying the canal. One of them was we were domesticate, well, I don't want to say domesticate, but we were eliminating flies that embed themselves and destroy cattle. And we had an entire operation set up that we were doing for years and years and years out of Panama

to restrict and kill off this one specific fly. And all of that stopped in 2020. And up until then, we still had some presence in the region. We were still monitoring. But once we walked away, the human traffickers and the drug traffickers in South America was just a direct road all the way up to the U.S. And I think that Trump's realized, along with some of the elite, that we need to get it back and keep it this time. And I'm hopeful for it because I've,

I've seen the amount of stuff that's come across the border, not just humans, weapons, drugs, you name it. It's just an open door. So military's job is to defend our borders. So they should be doing that right now. And I think they are. We just got to get rid of the distraction that is the Middle East and get out of there entirely and leave it to the Middle East countries to figure it out. But that's just my opinion. I know that there's a lot of strategic interests in Central America that we can solve by taking the canal back.

We can solve communication problems. We can shut down human trafficking. We can shut down a lot of the drug trafficking. But we still have to deal with the cartels of Mexico. And once we do that, the whole region will level out if we do it right. Now, does that mean we invade Mexico? At some point, yes. At some point, we're going to have to go down there and reestablish the government.

is you're talking about decades of cartel control of that government. I mean, this has been going on, the drug trade's been going on, what, since the 60s? I mean, inertes since the 60s. So we're talking 60 years of cartels running the world. The only way to change that is you've got to root them out and get rid of them all. And I think Trump's got the stones to do it. He just doesn't have the military right now to do it. How's that for a mouthful?

Well, it's funny. I just, I come back to, I don't know why I come back to right where we started from. And I think about the conversation that's happening in Alberta specifically right now. And that is Alberta, the 51st state. There's a lot of appetite here for, I would say, independence away from Canada. But with people, you know, when you talk about, well, just securing resources and on and on and on, You know, when you look at Alberta and what it offers the world, it is quite insane from a resources standpoint. And there is growing sentiment that, you know, like on the simplest of terms, Steve, people would just flip over to American state tomorrow if you just gave them the American dollar. They're just like, just give us the dollar. Just switch my dollars over to American.

I'd be, right? That's the, that is maybe the naivity of some of the voters, right? Like just, if they just gave me that, I go. Give me, give me, give me, uh, their rights and I go, right? Like they don't think, um, and in fairness, maybe none of us are thinking further along than just that. I don't know why I come back to that, but you're talking about going down and cleaning up Mexico. On the northern side, um, the, the issue is a corrupt government. That, to me, that's, that's what it looks like.

I could be a bit wrong on, on my assessment, but certainly. Your government's a cesspool of pedophiles and idiots that are controlled by the world economic forum. So they don't look at it. Really? What a copayette. So I look at it. And as you look at it and Albertans are like, maybe there's going to be a possibility if Carney does get in. He calls an election here in four days and gets back in the separatist movement of Western Canada, specifically in Alberta, is going to go, as I keep saying, supersonic.

And what does that look like? And where does that take us closer to? And there's a lot of talk. I think you're going to have that choice in the near future. I think you're going to make that choice, either the EU or the U.S. I think you're really going to make that choice. I don't think all of Canada is going to go that way because there's a lot of liberal retards in Vancouver. Well, I think the liberal retards would want to go Europe.

Maybe I'm wrong on that. Yeah. Well, let's hope so, right? Go to Europe. But that said, I think you might see that in the next two. years, two to three years, if this boils over the way, I think it's going to. Because whatever this, this dick waving contest is going on between the European elites and the U.S. elites, it's all about currency. It's all about debt. It's all about restructuring,

et cetera. That's why they want World War III so bad. You know, Kier Starrmer thinks he's going to send his 40,000 gay British troops over to Ukraine and fight the Russians. Let me know how that works out for you. It's not going to work out the way you think it is. And then you're going to go, stop the Russians from going to Paris. Okay, I hate to break it to you. But the Russians lost the fight. They didn't win the fight in Ukraine. A bunch of dudes in their basement with a 3D printer created enough drones to stop them dead in their tracks.

And they did it on their own volition. So give me a break with that. The Russians aren't going anywhere past the Nipa River. And if you think that I'm crazy, look at how long it took that. They went into Kursk, what, a year ago? Last year? I mean, and they went into Kirste for no reason, but look at how long it took them to get them out of there. If this is the big, bad Russian army, why aren't they rolling across the step into Kiev by now?

I'll tell you why, because they can't do maneuver warfare. So that whole line is a bunch of BS that everybody's starting to see through it, right? The thing that I think most people on the planet want to see is they want to see the death stop, right? I know how much waste is at war, but we've seen five, six hundred thousand casualties on the Ukrainian side. I don't know how many on the Russian side. Plus, you know, two million wounded and some of them wounded forever. They're never going to recover. And tell me how that's benefited of Ukraine.

Tell me how it's benefited Russia. It's a stalemate. As much as you want to tell me the Russians are moving, they might be moving. But they're not moving yards. They're moving inches. And if they were really the big bad Russian army, they would have rolled over the Ukrainians. They would have sent in 20 divisions and they would have gone right to Kiev on day one if they were serious. So that whole thing doesn't add up to anything other than people want to see an end to the war.

They want to see the end of the killing. They want to just see it move away from what it is now. But that said, they're trying to instigate World War III so they can write down the debt. I mean, Tom's spot on when he talks about that. Both he and Alex are just dialed into that, right? The politics in Germany, politics in the UK, the EU, they're dialed in. That's exactly what's going on. But on the other side of that, the U.S. trying to broker a peace deal.

And what it really looks like is it's, it's who's going to crash first, which economy? It's a game of chicken to see which economy is going to crash first. And the longer that we delay, the longer that we delay, the longer. that we we force the hand of europe the more likely it is they're going to crash first and then the chinese will go and it'll probably start japan to be perfectly honest because i think tom's right about that so i'm looking at all these indicators i'm thinking by by bringing canada into the EU gives them direct access so they can monetize the resources they can revalue Canadian dollar and they can revalue the euro. So I think at some point you probably

are going to see that conversation turn into something real. And then it really will be a real conversation around do we succeed from the union and do we go to become the 51st state? And I can tell you that that will happen overnight if Trump's given the opportunity. That will happen absolutely overnight. Well, what I can tell you here, sitting here right now, as I sit, like, just not knowing, you know, like the EU thing came, for me came out of left field, right? Like, I was like, oh, okay. Doesn't surprise me at all. Fair enough. Not at all. The way that the conversations are going on this side, Steve, is if Carney gets in, let's just play out the scenario where he wins an election, steals an election, take whatever word you want,

but he is the next prime minister for the next four years. You're, we're going to see in Alberta specifically this rising tide of people that are interested in the conversation about the 51st state and if that hasn't hit any other territories you don't think any other territories are going to are going to move that direction i think they will but it'll be alberta that makes the first step oh absolutely and and the thing about it is is if that i'm watching trump right now he's he's on fox news and he says oh yeah i think what's his exact words folks he wants a liberal government. I'm just chuckling.

I'm like, man, if you're a liberal and you hate Trump and you hear Trump say that, like now you're in a real- What does that mean a liberal government, though? What does that mean in Trump turns? Well, I assume that means Mark Carney. Right? That's the current government in right now. Yeah.

Or do you hear something different? I've learned with Trump that the stuff that comes out of his mouth is usually a troll. So does he want a liberal government? Probably for the sense that he knows they're going to drive towards the EU and he's going to take some of the property. That's how that guy works. Yeah, I really want a liberal government, which means go ahead, dude. Make your stupid moves.

I'll take half your country because they'll willingly come over to us. That's exactly what he's saying. I'm sorry, I read it. Well, that's funny because I was sitting here chatting with Beau before we came in here. And I'm like, well, why would you do that? Because he understands if a liberal government gets back in, there's a good chance that Alberta willingly just says, peace, we would prefer to be down south and take everything we have with it. Yep. And I think that, well, I wouldn't say down south.

I would say get ready for an influx of Americans that are coming up to start businesses, build border checkpoints, et cetera, right? because that's exactly what's going to happen. And I don't think that's going to be the only territory that says, yep, we're out. Love you. No, well, here's the thing is if Alberta goes, there will be more that go. Absolutely. It starts with Alberta. Yeah.

And the thing about, you know, people coming up here, at this point, I think there's a lot of things that would be a welcome addition. Now, in fairness, there's a lot of people who just want independence, right? I don't want to be governed by the states. I don't want to be governed by Canada. I just want to govern ourselves. Right? But if Carney gets in, all that sentiment is going to boil over. It boiled over in 2019.

2019 when Trudeau got elected for the second time overnight, it was just this huge, rooms were full of people wanting to go. But now you have Trump sitting to the south, who we both know. I guess he was there at that time too. Let me bend your brain for a second on this. sure it's just something you haven't thought about what if it's all a script what if it's all just a theater act so that they can unify can india in the u.s and create an economic zone what if it's just

a script what if trump's playing this part why do you think i brought you on yeah that's if if you want me to look at this from a from uh information warfare perspective to me it's all script all this is just a clever choreograph dance so they can create the conflict internationally they can create the conflict between countries. They could run the script out. Everybody signs up to be one big happy country. Guess what? They got their agenda 2030.

They didn't have to fire a shot. Done deal. Because Mark Carney is World Economic Forum. He's Black Rock World Economic Forum. That's the U.S. And that's Larry Fink. That's the East Coast Mafia. That's the World Economic Forum.

That's the Davos Mafia. They're all in bed together. It's, you know, birds of the same feather. So I I I I to be it's just a big game. So if you were if you were sitting here in your Alberta and you're unhappy. What would you do then? I would bought a rule myself. Okay.

I I I would if I Arizona I'd I succeed from the union go fuck yourselves. We are going to we're going to rule ourselves. This will be the independent country of you know, um, gun tar to stand and we're going to, we're going to do our own thing. Nice knowing you. Because look, we have resources here. Water is our issue, right? But you could negotiate water. And there's lots of things we could do to self-rule, right?

That's what I would go for first. Why? Because if I see the unification of the northern, you know, northern hemisphere, I already know the game's up. And then it becomes an insurgency at that point. I don't want to find insurgency. I'd rather disrupt their plans wholesale and just start taking pieces off the board they can't control. Is Trump a part at the like when then we I don't know like I he's looking more and more like a Zionist cock right now

Because of all these all this Israel talk did you watch his convention? His convention was literally make Israel greater grit They're like chanting on the last night of his convention like are you shitting me I didn't sign up for this and yet people voted in he's doing the best thing best job of the world What if he's owned he sure looks like he's owned by Israel? Everything he's doing right. like we're bombing the Houthis? We're dropping million-dollar bombs on guys that are using $100,000 drones. Really? That's the best we can do. We've got three carrier battle groups moving

over to engage Iran. Why? Iran has made no provocative moves. The only reason we're there is because Israel wants us to go to war, specifically Net Yahoo wants us to go to war with Iran. They've wanted us to go to war with Iran for the last 20 years. And you think that this outside, the realm of possibility that all this is a script to get people to sign up for a one-world government? My view of the whole situation is communism didn't sell. So now they bring in the moderates and they try and sell it to us under the guise of, we're going to unify countries because we can't get along. Come on. It's the same script.

I said this before. It's worth saying again. Read Ponds in the game by William Carr. You read that book. I guarantee you all this stuff will look crystal clear. But I think it's all the script. I think Trump is completely owned. And look at his cabinet.

Everybody in his cabinet is like hyper pro-Israel. I'm not any of those things. I'm all about restoring the Constitution, maintaining the Constitution, and most importantly, maintaining our sovereignty, just like maintaining the sovereignty of the nations around us. Because we're stronger as independent countries than we are as a unified nation. Can you imagine how much control and span of control that the government would have if they created a national police force?

Just round up all the liberals and all these foreign nationals. And guess what? You have an entire army of people that are not loyal to any constitutional. institution or any country and they will do whatever they're told to do and then so. We've seen this play out in how many different countries across the planet. That's exactly what they're angling towards. And I think with the tech bros and now infiltrating into DOD and the competition to get away from the big conglomerate defense contractors, I think what you're seeing is in the

background, they're building a technocracy. They're building the control grid in the background. They've been doing it since the start of COVID. So I don't think there's any change in anything. And the reason why I say that is, here we are. 58 days in, nobody's been perp-wocked. We know treason's occurred. The Biden's committed treason.

Obama committed treason. The CIA, most of the CIA and FBI committed treason. The Clinton's definitely committed treason. The Bush has committed treason. Nobody's investigating anything. Pam Bondi's still trying to find the Epstein files, which, by the way, are all digitized. But they have to redact them. Do you go with that?

I mean, it's all a big show. It's all a big script. It's all a bunch of misdirection. Like, look at how much of the public consciousness right now is absorbed with JFK. The dude died in 62. The files have been there since 62. You don't think they've deleted stuff? Come on.

It's all a bunch of BS. The whole thing's a show. And I think it's a show to drive us into the control grade. Like I said, if disclosure happens and we get some of these technologies that are released, and we see some of the things behind the current, I guarantee you, their control grid evaporates overnight. Did I ever tell you I enjoy having you on? I enjoy having you on. Why is that?

Because I bend your brain. Well, you, you think differently than different, you know, you're, you're, when I look at, you know, bringing on different guests to talk about different subjects or just the world in general, North America. you can go wherever you want with it, is what makes my job. And I think as an audience, I can speak for the audience, if you're going to listen to things, if you hear the same thing over and over again, you're like, but something just doesn't add up. Like, wait a second. You tell me, and you do a very good job of giving a different perspective. And I think for a lot of people, they get to sit back and go, that kind of makes sense.

I hadn't thought about that, right? Like this, all going together and we're all going to be under one big giant, harmonious country, you know, I think, I think, the shit out of everybody. Why, why would somebody think that's a good thing? When the government says, we're here to help, you're going to be better off by us doing something, you should turn around and reach for the nearest rifle and just fire indiscriminately before you reload and ask, what did you just say? That's how bad that is. That's somebody coming across your perimeter and he's got a bigger gun than you do, but he's telling you,

just here to help no sorry there's no part of this government that even in even across the planet there's no part of any government right now that's doing anything beneficial for their people even even el salvador which seems to be the most peaceful place on the planet right now right 20 years ago el salvador was it the highest death you know fatalities per year in the world and all of a sudden the safest place storm no i i believe in two things that that it helped me throughout my career because in the cyber business you have to think outside the box you have to think the pieces fit together and figure out how they fit together even though you think they don't because they usually do and i've learned that that especially cyber criminals

they're they're adaptive they're creative and they're agile they can move they could shoot move and communicate faster than we can and i'm looking at all this all of these different pieces and And I'm like, why would they fit together? What would benefit the world elite? If these pieces fit together and people did it willingly, that fits their agenda. They don't have to fire a shot. Because look, prior to November, we were, everybody here was gearing up for Civil War. I'm telling you, I was telling people in October, travel heavy, meaning carry a rifle, carry ammunition, carry a plate carrier, be ready to go into action.

anytime, anywhere. Because as soon as Biden gets back in office or Harris or whichever flunky they were going to put up, guess what? Civil War. And it was going to be civil war. And let me go a step further. One of the things as an officer you don't want to hear, especially in peacetime, sir, what are your orders?

That is a soldier asking you, who am I going to go attack? And I heard that literally every week for 11 weeks prior to the election. You don't think that's a strong indicator that we're going to go to war. We were poised for civil war, and the elite knew it. They knew they had to change their playbook because it wasn't selling. And they know that an activated, armed American public, who said it the best? Yamamoto. He said, I fear we have awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.

That's exactly where the American public was. And look at them now. They haven't released the Epstein files. Nobody's been purploc. Wait till 90 days from now. People are going to be pissed off. And they're going to be ready to go off the reservation. That's why I say.

I think if we don't get disclosure, there's going to be a revolution. So when you look at, sorry, when you look at Trump being shot in the head, you think he was shot in the head, correct? I have my doubts about it. And I'll tell you why. Because, okay. Option one, legitimate, the Secret Service, the FBI, and a certain number of nefarious players. They say Josh Shapiro had a play in it, whatever. All that's real.

Option two. It's staged. They have a sniper team that's in a different location that shoots, that's, you know, and again, that's a hell of a shot because you're talking about distance, wind, to get that close. But the part that's, here's the part that sticks in my crop. I can't account for the rest of it. But he shows up with that big, you know, my pillow on his ear at the convention. Like three days later, I'm like, dude, really? There was never any publicity or pictures of the wound.

There was never a doctor's briefing about the wound in his health condition. There was never any kind of a briefing about any other injuries he might have sustained because there was multiple shots fired. There were people killed behind him. So there's more questions than answers to that. And I have my doubts about any of it. And given the fact that I think everything's a script anyway, they could have shot close to him and they could have had a blood capsule on his ear that popped and drip down his face. Because remember, he drops down behind the podium.

We don't see anything. He comes up. He's got blood on his face. How do you know that's real? Did anybody verify? Did a doctor come out and say the guy was wounded? No, it was just Trump and his team. So you can make all the, like the left things that was all staged.

It was all theater. Okay. The people that were shot in the background, they could have been paid actors. They could have been real. Who knows? Did you ever, did we ever hear the names of those people? It's like, it's like Maui. It's like California.

What happened to the families? A fire sweeps through Lahaina. Like literally I was there two weeks or three weeks prior to that. And literally, fire sweeps through that place. We don't know how many people died. We don't know how many children died. And we've never heard from me in the families. You're telling me that a major catastrophe happens like that. We don't hear for the families. It's the same thing. Where's the doctor report about the wound? I'm suspect of everything. But that was like way too many questions there.

And given the fact that the secret service didn't have control of that place, like that rooftop, come on I'd have three snipers and a SWAT team on that rooftop and nobody would have even got close to it and you're telling me this guy crawls up there people are pointing to him and all of a sudden he pops off a shot that hits Trump here get out of here fuck out of here that's I think I think the whole thing was was number one it could be either one it could be staged or it could be real I don't know but there's more questions than answers to all of it And, you know, we went through it originally, you know, I said the same thing. We don't know enough. There's not enough information about any of the, any of the aspects of it to really make a definitive case either way. And if we look at all the other attempts on him, all these other attempts were failed attempts because these guys were amateurs.

If you're going to send somebody to kill a guy, you know who's going to be the president of the United States. Are you going to send an amateur? Are you going to send a pro? Pro. Because you're going against the Secret Service. you're going to send a guy that knows how to infiltrate, take the shot, and get out, clean. And trust me, there's plenty of those guys around. There's a lot of trained, very highly skilled snipers out there that could have popped him

and capped him a new asshole on the forehead. And nobody would have thought wiser of it. And they would have done it on national TV. So I have my doubts about all of it. I don't know where the truth lies. But I look at everything with suspect eyes. And the more that things are starting to move in certain directions, I'm thinking, yeah, that could have been staged. I don't know.

It's hard to say. But I think everything we're seeing right now is theater. Pure and simple theater. I don't think it's anything else. I don't think it's a coincidence that Pam Bondi screwed up and dropped, first of all, she dropped, you know, eight and a half by 11 binders with a bunch of papers. that say these are the Epstein files when they were digitized back in 2011. Come on. I mean,

it's not even good theater. Like, I like my bullshit freshly packaged and well delivered if I'm going to buy it into it, right? This isn't even well packaged. It's bullshit. Come on. You can do better than that.

I can do better than that. That's what I'm seeing right now. And the worst part of all of this is you could be skeptical, but there's so many people that have made Trump into a deity that you can't talk about the ledge and that's the that's the part where if this really was an attempt you know even if it was faked it had the desired effect the desired effect was to make him untouchable to make him unbeatable that event in july galvanized the american public galvanized them it's what i call a green flag you conduct an attack that galvanizes the public

9-11 and what do we find out about 9-11 that there was a bunch of Israeli students that were all over the world trade center prior to that going and going into uh right of the aircraft hit the building quote-of-quote so you could make the case either way right i i tend to lean on the side of more cynical and i think that if i was a bed man i'd say that there's a lot of theater around that too just by the way he was rushed out of there. There's no doctor. I mean, go back to Reagan. But when there was attempt on Reagan's life and he was actually shot, how every hour, every, every, almost every hour on the hour, there was a press briefing about the president's condition, about his wound.

And as they got more and more detail, every press briefing got more and more detail. We saw none of that with Trump. You would think that a major player in a presidential election would garner at least one or two TV channels to come out and say, here's this condition. We didn't see any of that. That's why I say you can take it either way. Never a dull moment. I kept you a past time. Steve, thanks for hopping on and doing this.

It won't be the last time. Appreciate your thoughts on this side. Yeah. I hope when your audience heads explode that you'll funnel all that traffic. Traffic over to me to answer the questions. We will We will. Thanks again, Steve. All right, brother.

You take care.