Shaun Newman Podcast - #818 - Jasmin Laine

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Jasmin Laine is a Canadian media personality and content creator, best known for her work as a broadcaster and influencer in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Born and raised in rural Manitoba, she began her career in the broadcasting industry at age 17, eventually becoming an award-winning morning show host. She gained recognition for her decade-long tenure in traditional media, including her role as a morning show host on Winnipeg’s Energy 106 (CHWE FM), where she co-hosted "Wheeler in the Morning". Today she hosts “Over Opinionated with Jasmin Laine" which aims to bring common sense back to Millennials and Gen Z.Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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Welcome to the show. John Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Jasmine Lane. Ma'am, thanks for hopping on. Yeah, of course. Thank you so much. There is so much to talk about right now. Well, there certainly is, but this is your first time on the podcast. You've been suggested a couple times. We've got a mutual friend and Wayne Peters. I've seen you've done other people that I know in the space or hopped on their shows. Done. That's probably not the right. Yeah, chill out.

Yeah, not the exact right words there. And I'm like, well, I guess it's high time that I invited young. on this side. So I'm curious. I always love a good origin story. And since it's your first time on the podcast, tell us a little bit about Jasmine before we get into the wacky world of Canada. Yeah, well, I was a broadcaster for about 11 years. I shouldn't say a broadcaster. I worked in broadcasting for 11 years. I was on air for eight, if I'm not mistaken, of those years. came, you know, award winner. I've been all that jazz for my amazing charm. And yeah, I did that for quite some time. It was my entire life, my everything. And I don't really know exactly why I

decided to take a risk, but I certainly did. And I went independent and have just been really largely covering Canadian politics ever since. But obviously, I have the gift of Gab. So I decided to use those talents outside of the mainstream. There were definitely a number of instances where things that happened that, you know, we weren't, you're not ever directly told, don't talk about that, but you know you're not allowed to talk about that. So there's lots of moments like that. And I think I kind of just got to a point where I was kind of tired of things being taken out of context or things being, things that I would say, you know, being turned around on me almost to maintain whatever narrative it was that people wanted to maintain. I was kind of tired of self-censoring

and feeling like I was stomped on, I guess, for lack of better words. And I just kind of hit a breaking point, really. And I decided that, well, I guess I'm just going to open up a YouTube page. It seems like all the cool kids are doing that right now. And then much to my surprise, you know, I never once expected that it was going to even have a hundred people listening to it, let alone, you know, I'm over 10 million views and stuff at this point on YouTube alone, which is just, whoa. I don't quite know how to wrap my head around that yet. But it's been a really beautiful journey overall.

You know, there's things about my past career that I'm not the happiest about, I suppose, but also, you know, I wouldn't be anywhere where I am today if it weren't for that. So, of course, I'm eternally grateful for all the connections and everything I learned. Now, are you, you're a Manitoba girl, right? Sure am. Prairie's baby. Yeah, we won't hold that against you too much. Everybody always craps on Manitoba and you know what?

Everybody always craps on Saskatchewan, all right? So we're friendly neighbors, but, you know, like I... We at least have beautiful lakes. Both of us do. Yes. Well, I grew up in Saskatchewan. Now I live in Alberta just across the border. So it's funny.

Like, you know, like I, you know, I used to go to riders games and, and, and, and, and, joy the Labor Day Classic when the riders were good and they were crapping on or, you know, stomping on the, the bombers. That hasn't been the case of late. So I got to ask you something now that you say that. Hmm. The watermelon head thing. Is that real? Do people actually do that or is that like AI? It is. That's real. Oh, yeah. Isn't that heavy? No, they hollowed out. They, they, I don't know. No, I don't think so. I think it's awesome. You know what? I never get to talk sports on here. You used to, that's what I used to just love bringing on different

athletes and everything else. Saskatchewan Roughruder fans. I don't have a ton of time for the CFL as a whole folks. Sorry, I'm not like this diehard CFO guy. But one of the things I will give credit to the Saskatchar and Rough Riders, they have the most loyal fan base I have ever seen, been a part of. And I always go back to when I was a kid.

The Great Cup was in Eminton. And my mom and dad probably could afford things like that back then. I don't know. CFL is probably still pretty cheap. So we went to the game in Emerton. And it was like, minus 30. It was, it was freezing cold. Everybody's bundled up. Probably everybody's drunk. Now that I look at it, everybody was drunk. And Doug Flutie, it was like Doug Flutie's last game in the

CFL. And he absolutely stomped us. It was like 45, 8. And with like two minutes left, all the drunk or offrider fans started chanting were number two. And I don't know of another fan base. It would ever do such a thing. That is actually amazing. Isn't it? And that's really great. So I got to, you know, that's my fun little writer's story because I don't watch any football anymore or, you know, I don't have time for that, you know, like obviously we're both in this weird realm of the void that's been Canadian politics. That's how you stumble into my circle now. And, and yet when I listen to your story, you remind me of, I was thinking about it before I hopped on here. Like when it comes to radio, I don't know, is it DJs, commentaries, yeah,

personalities. Like I think of in Manitoba, I've had Shadow Davis on from there. But if I, if I come back this way, Heather Prozac out of Calgary has been on. And then if I go to Vancouver, that's Kid Carson and I've had him on. And like, you all come on and personalities is the right word. You guys all have these like fun personalities that's easy to just throw stuff back and forth. And in fairness, morning shows, that's exactly what it is. You flick on the morning. It's got to be something that catches your attention real fast.

And man, I never get to talk sports or any of that cool stuff anymore. What do you miss talking about? Okay, honestly. And I'm hoping that perhaps after an election, depending on the results, I can start to slowly integrate this into my content. But I absolutely love talking about like social politics, culture stuff. You know, whether that be something wild that a celebrity is doing that just makes no sense and like totally goes against my values and just really being able to kind of stir the. pot on that. Why can't you do that right now? Because I, you know, it's just, I mean, we just had peed ditty and you're like, that's, that's, that's Hollywood. You could talk about that. Could talk about every, you could, you could, you could talk about, uh, well, that, that was a year ago. It was a year ago at the Super Bowl where the, where Taylor Swift was surrounded by like, I don't know, upside down crosses and weird stuff like that. This is strange. Like these are,

this is strange folks. Anyways, I'm, I'm definitely hoping to be able to, uh, I still, I love politics, truly. I have always, always loved politics. Really? You've always loved it? since i was i think i was 13 when i first started really getting into it um also though too you know here's a little bit more backstory like um i grew up really poor um like i lived in a trailer with a bunk bed with six other kids in the middle of the boonies um my family did not have money like i i never went to post secondary school getting into radio is just something that i'm still so it's just beyond me how i did you get whoa whoa how did you get into it then you didn't i in my brain in my brain in my brain. I don't never like to put a date on a woman. I don't want to know your age, but I'm going

11 years. I'm 20. There you're 28. There you go. Okay. Wow. So when I was in 96. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I know. Oh. Okay. When I was in high school, though, there was a parade float that was for a radio station and I was there and I don't know why. I think at the time I was 16 and I was planning already about going into school I wanted to be a nurse. Obviously, that's very expensive. And to be honest, I think I would have been a terrible nurse because I can't even pop my own zets. It grosses me out. So it's probably a good thing I didn't get that profession. But I, yeah, I had seen this float. And I just immediately something clicked. And I thought that's exactly what I want to do. I want to be a radio show host, which is funny because I was such a loser. And like, I had no friends in high school at all. My family

flipped houses. So we moved all over the place. Like when I was in high school, I went to, I went to five different schools in a matter of three years. So I was always just kind of like that weird loner kid that everybody probably thought had just transferred from being homeschooled or something. Because it was just random the time of the year that I'd pop in. But I, that was just what I wanted to do. I don't, I can't even explain. It was just this insane drive and spark that I had in me after I saw that float. I don't know. They were having so much fun and I loved the music and this is what I want to do. And so immediately after that, I went to one of my teachers in school and I told him his, I don't even remember what his last name is, but I do know that his first name is Steve,

which is weird. You usually don't know that about your teachers. So I had gone to him and I told him about this dream and he was super receptive and he actually started calling around like crazy to a bunch of different radio stations and TV stations. And I was fortunate in being a loser in school when I was in my younger years of high school, I never wanted to take spares or anything like that. That's what they're called, right? Spares. Yes. Where you have like a skipped class or whatever. Yeah.

I never wanted to take those because I didn't really have anybody to hang out with or anything to do. So even when I was in grade eight or nine, if I'm not mistaken, I was already taking classes for the following school year at that point in time. So by the time that I was nearing my senior years of high school, I had nothing but wide open schedules. I would have like one, maybe two classes a day, if that. And we were able to work something out where I did breakfast television as a student intern from 6 a.m. until noon. I'd go to school.

I'd do my one class for the afternoon there. And then that would be it for the day. And so I had a student internship throughout almost my entire grade 12 year, actually, where I did the first half was television, the second. second half was radio. And of course, this is all thanks to my teacher, Mr. Steve, whose name I, last name I forget, who he had put all of that together for me. And I remember I was planning on going to school for radio. And there was a radio station I was interning at at the time. And they said to me, like, you know, have you already applied? And I said no. And the cost of it

is way higher now than it was back then, but it was around 18,000 or something for a 10 month program back then, which I definitely couldn't afford. And they said, don't bother. We're just going to hire you. And I was like, oh, okay. So I canceled my application to go to that post-secondary. And they ended up hiring me. I worked there for two years. And that was a smaller out-of-town station. And then after two years, I really wanted to break into the Winnipeg market, which is a medium-sized market. So I started just contacting as many people as I possibly could and told them kind of all about my dreams. And I remember there was one program director who's, you know, for people who don't know, the program director is the head honcho. They make all of the decisions for any station

it is that they're under or that they're overseeing. And he had agreed to set up a meeting with me. He told me repeatedly, there's absolutely no jobs. You shouldn't waste your time coming here. But nonetheless, we had a meeting. He reiterated again, we're not. going to hire you. We have no openings. And I started making the drive. I was about an hour and a half or so away from the city at that point. And he called me while I was on the road to go to this meeting. And he said, again, there's no jobs at all. And he said, I also have a meeting. So I think, I think, you know, it's probably just better. Like, let's just have a phone call. And I remember I said to him, I was like, well, that sucks because I'm already on my way. And I've been on the road for 45 minutes or

something at this point. And I'm not turning around to go back home. So I'll wait in the lobby until your meeting is over, but I really need you to meet me. And the reason for that was just because I knew that it was such a slim shot, but I just felt like as soon as he saw me and saw how passionate I was or something, that he'd be like, this, this is the best one ever. And then that actually ended up kind of being what had happened. I ended up going to the radio station in the city that day. I was there for probably about four hours actually. I waited for him from this meeting. And I remember he came out into the hall, shook my hand, took me into his office, and again said we have no jobs at all. We kind of talked a little bit about the industry. And then he was like, well, I guess, you know, I'll give you a tour of

the station. And so there happened to be another show that was on at the time. They were live. And I think he was just trying to pawn me off and so that he didn't have to deal with me. And I ended up sitting in on this other radio show that was going on at the time for about three hours or something. And when I was when the show was over, because most radio shows don't, they don't usually surpass four hours of on air time. I, uh, I went back into his office and was just going to thank him for allowing me to come there and see everything. And he offered me a job on the spot. So I ended up working there for another, uh, I think it was close to four and a half years. And then I got a morning show job after that that I was a head hunted for, did that for another,

uh, just about four, just about four years. Yeah. Um, and then, Yeah, now I'm doing this. So you're hearkening back to when I first started podcast, I got to interview a ton of people and hear how they got to where they are. And usually there's like this, not on all, but there's a lot where you're like, huh, that's really interesting. And I'm going back to teacher Steve, which you can't remember his last name, which is, which is hilarious and fantastic and sat all in the same, you're all in the same go.

I'm like, you know, do you get to where you're at if he doesn't do what he does? Absolutely not. Maybe. Maybe. I don't think so. Maybe there's a way, you know. And I always think like, you know, I tell this story and people laugh at me now, okay? Full-time podcaster.

This is my living. This is what I do. And I had this idea for a hockey draft. This is probably 2016, somewhere in there. And I needed sponsors for it. So I go to this guy who now is Clay Smiley folks and is Prophet River. And everybody knows that because he's something. his guns and he's a sponsor of the show. And I pitch him this idea and I'm looking for him to

sponsor it. He goes, how much do you need? And, you know, people are like, oh, did you ask him for like $500,000, $1,000? I asked him for $50. And when I think back on it, his, his face was like, 50 bucks. All right. He opens his wallet, takes up 50. He's like, don't even give me a receipt. But I was so over the moon that somebody would believe in my crappy idea. Because it turned out to be a crappy idea. Don't get me wrong. But, but what the reason of the story is, is like, I take that with me and I try and remember that wherever I go because you just never know what a little bit of belief in somebody can do for them, right? So you look at teacher Steve and Steve, you know, like, I don't know, maybe he did that for every kid. Or maybe he saw something.

I have no idea because obviously we, you know, it would be interesting to have Steve on and he'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, there's always. He'd probably be like, who is that? I don't even remember her. But he went the extra mile and did something that absolutely lit up your world. And now you look at where you're at and the things that are going on. Like that's a, you know, I miss the feel good stories because they're everywhere. Like everybody, you know, if you just listen to people, you hear it all the time. You're like, oh, man, that's fascinating. Like, who was this person?

Why did they do that? Back in the 80s here, when, like, we had all the high interest rates and people went through some very dark times. And these are people that are in my community, are like very successful business owners. They talk about the dark days and there was a banker, Kulak. And I forget his first name. Isn't that funny? You can't remember the last name.

I can't remember the first name. And just watch his first name is Steve. That's right. And they talk about how they were like in really dark times, like suicidal times. And in walks this guy and just gives them like some hope. And the hope goes. And now they're like community pillars of my community now. And I'm like, that's a wild story.

That's one person. Just think of what one person can do. And I hear it in your story, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I say, you know, there's some things, especially towards the end of my career, that they keep me up at night. If I think about them for too long, just with how some things went down and some things

that happened. But as a whole, it's like, wow, what a blessing. What a blessing all of those weird little pieces where it's like all the odds are against you almost. But, you know, I here I am. I'm like, I don't care if you say, no, I'm coming. to your workplace. Like, that's crazy. But it's awesome. But it's awesome. But you know, you sit there and you think of that guy and you go, oh, you probably didn't want to talk about me. Maybe.

But after a while, if he's got his head on his shoulders, he's going, look at this girl. I can't get half my employees to stay for the last five minutes of a shift, let alone sit here unpaid and be engaged. It's like, this is interesting, right? Like, that would be something. That, like, you know, that that's pretty cool. That's a cool story. Thank you. I don't get to tell it very often anymore. Well, on this show, when you see your first go, I think of, you know, I'm not a Marvel guy. I'm a DC guy. But, and I know people are super here at out, but I like what they did. They did the origin story. And on this side, I'm like, I don't know you. I've listened to, I've been on one show with you for like literally a hot 10 seconds.

Yeah. And then, and then you were gone. And I've listened to you on another show. And I'm like, oh, this is cool. I've watched some of your stuff. It's cool. And I'm like, but I don't know who you are. And I assume the audience doesn't. So like, I love a good origin story. I love hearing who, you know, what makes someone tick. The fact you're 96, I'm in 86.

So, you know, I got 10 years on you, which makes me feel old. But when, but then again, I'm like, I feel like 86 is pretty young, you know. So it's cool to see. You have so much hair still. Good for you. I know. I know. I'm doing something right.

That's right. What, what, you know, you talk politics. Okay. Well, sorry folks. There, there. I'm done with my, because I love digging into people and who they are. When you look at today's political scene here in Canada, what's sticking out to you today? Well, that is such a loaded question. I would say a lot of disappointment is sticking out to me first and foremost. And a lot of, I would say, systemic for sure, intentional things that are happening so that people don't, look into more information about things. And that's also incredibly disappointing.

More than anything, though, actually, I would say division. There is so much division. And that part is just wild to me, wild, how much that has taken hold. I feel like Canada is almost no matter what kind of screwed right now. You know, hopefully that's not the case. I heard earlier today an election is allegedly being called on Sunday. So we will see. I think we're all hearing the same thing.

Everybody's assuming Sunday an election is being called. I think as soon as CBC said it, I was like, okay, that it's for sure happening. When this airs, when this airs, that'll be yesterday because this doesn't air until Monday, which is, yeah, Monday. Yeah, Monday. Yep, yep. Yeah. So I sit there and I go, we didn't have an election by the time this is, this is aired. I don't know.

It's, that's interesting to me. Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, it almost kind of has to happen, right? with Mark Carney and not well with him not having a seat I think it would be really bad I think it would look bad if if it wasn't but who knows I don't know at the same time having said that I'm very surprised I actually wasn't expecting it I mean you had one of the ministers I can't remember what he is now but he was saying just yesterday yesterday a k a Wednesday uh that that he was he kept saying oh well you know if there's an election we'll see if there's

there's an election. So I'm like the wording around it has been very odd in my opinion. You know, it's funny too, even even going into politics stuff, one of the biggest reasons why I kind of decided to make my, my YouTube channel largely about politics was actually due to mental health related reasons. You know, I, I don't want to get into it too much today, but I lost my, my ex-boyfriend. We were together 10 years and he took his life. And he was super involved in politics. Definitely, you know, I was also involved in politics too and from a young age.

And he, uh, I, he always used to tell me that I should do something like this. And I was always too scared about losing my job in media. And then after he died, I was like, whatever. I don't care anymore. There's, I've been to hell and back already. There's nothing anybody can you. Isn't that a wild thought, you know, um, on this side, you know, coming from a sports background, uh, there's like, they joke about it.

You can watch that they don't talk about. You're not supposed to talk about politics and faith are probably the two taboo subjects. And yet probably I think I can, I can, I think I safely say this for all sports fans listening. Like what was the number one show or number one segment, I should say, for like 30 years? Ron and Don, it was coach's corner. And what did Don Cherry do all the time? Yeah. Talk politics.

He literally brought up what was going on in the world. And then Ron would try them. And they were two sides. It was similar coin. But obviously Don had his one side, which was conservative. And one side was Ron, who's certainly liberal. And they argued about it. Why was that so important?

Well, because they, I think Don really embodied what a lot of Canadians think about our country. And then you had Ron there to try to keep them, you know, not too far off. It's a wonderful balance, I think. It was. And it was also a signal to all. conservatives when they were moved on on, uh,

remembrance day of all days, right? And the one he talked about the most like, it's open season. And so I find it funny because one of my biggest fears on this side is when I started talking openly about politics, you know, openly about COVID. Oops.

That was, that was a tough one. Um, but freeing, very freeing. And now we've, we've, I think we've done the full gamut. You know, I'm like, you know, don't get me wrong.

There's some topics where I'm like, why are we talking about this? But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, I lost the, people, if that's going to turn them off, I've probably lost them a long time ago. Because, you know, like we just, we talk about everything on this side. It's very freeing. Yeah, I completely agree with that. And you know what, too? I think that's, that was something big that I realized. And I, the reason why I say mental health, too, is because there's such a huge correlation. And there's so many people who think, well, it's just politics. I don't care. I'm not, I'm not political. But like, every single thing about politics affects your life. Everything does.

It affects what you're happy about. You're mad about. You're sad about. It affects why you're struggling. It affects why you aren't struggling. It affects why traffic is so backed up now and it wasn't five years ago. It affects why you can't get a house. Like it affects the social media feed that you're seeing like politics really plays such a massive role. And, you know, initially I had really just wanted to talk mental health. That is still something I'm incredibly passionate about. And you know, I do public speaking engagements as well on suicide prevention and stuff like that at this point in time. And then I also have this political side, which is definitely much more of my online on my online version of me, I suppose. But I always do just find that tie in.

And you know, you see how people are with each other these days, the division. You know, you kind of asked before like, well, what is what is the landscape right now? How does it make you feel? And it's like, yeah, I think that politics right now are really bad. And that's why people are feeling the way that they're feeling. You know, as an example to that, I have a friend of mine who he's been in Canada for about 10 years or so now. but he finally got his citizenship on Monday. It was a beautiful ceremony. And one thing that he had said to me,

I saw him as well on Saturday prior to the ceremony. And he said, you know, when I first moved, he's from Argentina. And he said, when I first moved here, when I first was thinking about moving here, I came to Canada and nobody ever talked about politics. And then I came back to Canada again, about a year and a half later.

And nobody talked about politics. And that was when I knew that I really wanted to be Canadian. in. And so he then started the process to, you know, work really hard and try to find a way to get a work visa and all of these things. That took him a little while to do. And he said when he came back here, and he had, you know, achieved all of those things that he needed to get permanent residency and be able to work and all that stuff, find a place to live. He said that he was really surprised because it had been a couple of years. And so we're talking, you know, maybe 2017, late 2016. And he said, everybody was talking about politics. And he said, that's when I knew that something was really wrong

because where I come from, everybody talks about politics. And the reason why, it doesn't matter what side you're on is because something is going on in the government. That's really, really bad. And so either that's people who are now so focused on the government handouts that they have just become these, you know, they're completely incapable of really doing anything. They just rely on that government check and Argentina prior to Malay had massive social assistance for their population and it was crippling. It was horrible. It was horrible what I did to their economy. It was horrible what it did to the mental health of their residents. And he said, you know, there'd be people who would be fighting because there's people like me who were old enough to remember what it was like

when you could actually like Argentina at the time. It's not like it was a first world country or anything back when he was a kid. But he's like, you know, I remember being able to work for things and you could actually like feel accomplished and proud of yourself you could have dreams you know and then all of a sudden as time went on and new governments came in that were particularly very left leaning very much like so many similarities honestly to to many of the things that the trudeau government discussed many of the things that mark carney has discussed and he said it was just fascinating how you had people who who were so dependent on the government that they would never ever vote in somebody who would take that away from them. And they would think that the people who were

taking that away from them were the bad guys. But he's like, but they aren't the bad guys, though, because they want you to do what you're supposed to do as a human and to have pride and work hard. And they want you to make money. They want, they have to take away those other things in order for you to be able to make money, like, so that you can do something for yourself instead of doing nothing all day and just relying on them to take care of you. like this is so messed up. And he said to on Saturday when I was with him that he said that he's like, there's a lot of things in Canada and the way that people talk nowadays with so much of

these social programs and the way that they treat each other if you're opposed to them. He's like, it reminds me a lot of being home. And so then to summarize there, he said that he is incredibly excited to vote in this year's election so that he can do whatever he can's to make sure that Canada does not turn into what his home was. So I thought that was really fascinating. Yeah, well, it's Argentina. I mean, like that country is, is there's been lots of people warning.

We could turn into exactly that. And certainly hearing that story is, you know, echoes what I've heard. And certainly there's a group of Eastern Europeans who listen to the show and chime in lots. and we've had on the show warning about, you know, the direction we're heading and everything else in this country. Two things really interest me, I guess, about your story and where you're from. One is a different province. I always find, you know, in Canada, when you get different provinces on to talk where they're at and what they're seeing, I always find that fascinating. And then you being a decade younger than me, I'm curious because, you know, like in this space, I'm thinking about this now.

I always consider myself one of the young ones, you know. Ha ha, I beat you. You definitely did. And that's interesting. Because I guess, like, I'm sure I'm missing people, folks. But like, on the whole, if we sit here and we think about it, you know, all the people I rattled off from radio. Heather, I'm probably a smidge older than I assume. But everybody else, I'm younger.

And like a ton of the people beating the drum in media, even alternative media, are my seniors. They're older than me. And so you being younger and from a different province, I guess I'm just curious. What do you see? Like, do you think conservatives have a shot in this election? I want to say yes. I genuinely don't know. I thought yes for quite some time.

I, you know, that's also interesting because you said you're in Alberta, correct? Correct. So Manitoba, very, very different political. than Alberta from what I gather. And Manitoba is definitely a very, very left-leading province for the most part. You know, we did have a conservative premier for quite some time. They did not a good job. And they got booted out and replaced by Wob Knew, who he's run some pretty incredible deficits.

He has spent money on some pretty wild things. And you have a very good chunk of people, though, who, again, they don't fully comprehend the long-term damage of that type of spending or those types of priorities because they're just happy for whatever that handout that they're getting is, right? And so I see that a lot here. And it's incredibly infuriating. And I think, too, going back to what I was saying earlier, you know, like I, I, I, I, I grew up and I was not, I did not come from a wealthy family in the slightest. And we didn't have a

computer. We didn't have like anything really for a good chunk of my life. And what I used to do is I would go into the school library and I would just print off like full Wikipedia pages of things. And so when I was very young, I had started, I had started researching, you know, the book of revelation. I was researching the new world order. I was researching the world economic forum, like all these things because I just thought they were so wild to hear and I was so fascinated to read all of these things. And so I think that that kind of puts me in a bit of a unique perspective and also even just the fact that, yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't on social media around the same time as everybody around me was. I wasn't in the same friend groups with the same types of influences.

I actually often say like in high school, had I been in that school for a long period of time, rather than like my grade 12 years. An example, I was only there that year. And so I didn't have the time to develop the friendships and stuff that most people do, which I resent, but also I'm happy for. You know, obviously it's kind of weird. People are like, oh, cool, so who are your friends? And I'm like, I don't know.

I mean, I have like seven of them and they're from all over the place and none of them know each other. So a weird friend group here. But I also, I feel really lucky as well that I was not just due to my, my situation. at the time involved in really any echo chambers at all. Like, I really wasn't. And I think that that was a huge benefit to thinking the way that I do, or a huge disservice to people who don't like what I talk about.

Who introduced you? You mentioned printing off Wikipedia pages. Who introduced you to the wef and different ideas like that? Because I'm like, I just, I think of myself, even in, years ago I'd never heard of any of these things right and it's because of COVID and the way we went on this show and the choices he made in life and on and on it started to really like what the heck is going on so as you pull on that thread then you you it's it's almost impossible you didn't stumble on the wef and well about 10 other things but regardless you're talking about

stumbling upon this like if i'm doing the math correct then like 10 years ago you're like oh yeah like easy okay so you you i highly doubt a kid just walks in and goes you know i want to i want to talk about world economic form book book book like was this a family thing was this friend thing like how did you stumble into that i know the new world order came to mind after the after i was reading the book of revelation and researching that at length. Lots of the information from back then. I honestly don't remember as well as I used to. I should probably refresh a little bit just for my own sanity. But the New World Order came after researching that. And that was largely due to being online and searching for things. And then you'd have like a random article pop up or something. And I was like,

what is that? And I, you know, I'm such a curious person. And I love jumping into rabbit holes and picking apart things and finding pieces that relate. And it's it's genuinely like that is most girls you want to go out to the club on a Saturday night. I'm like no way. Give me a Wikipedia page. I'm ready. So so that was kind of what what got into there. And then when it came to the W.E.F. That was actually after about how when I remember seeing something. Oh, this is what sparked it. I went to funny enough a We day event. And Al Gore was the speaker and he was talking a lot about climate change related things obviously. And there were some things that he said that at a young age definitely put fear into me, which is obviously why that is so effective. And I remember him saying some things and

some statistics. And then when I got home from that event, I just was like, well, I've never really heard of any of this stuff before up until he was talking about it. And I'm, I want to learn more. I'm curious about all of this because like he's saying things that sound really scary, but nobody around me is talking about it. So does that mean that it is something and that I'm smarter than them? Or am I stupid? And are they talking about it in code? Like, I don't know. And so after that presentation was when I decided to go home and I started researching some things about Al Gore. And that was when there ended up being a trail back to world economic forum related policies. That's like, that's kind of, uh,

You're not built like most, right? Like most would just be, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. All right. Carry on with life. Yeah, I'm kind of a loser, but in a good way, I think. So when you tie all those things together and you go back to where I started this off,

he's like, you think the conservatives win? You're like, yeah. And then you walk into New World Order, uh, Waffe, all these different things. So you're almost, you're almost blackpilled then somewhere. I think so, yeah, which is like, scared of, I think. but you're you're i assume i'm i'm not putting you at a place when i say you're kind of like the rest of us and like four months ago you're like holy man we're gonna have a super majority now the question is will will pierre do what he says he's going to do that's the question

or is he compromised and is he going to take us closer to this weft world and everything that way right it's it's like it's done it's over and then aunt walk in carney and you're like what did this happen and why are they doing it right now why is he running And then you see the polls start to flip and you're like, what is going, Donald Trump enters a picture. Donald Trump says the other day, which I actually love. I'd rather deal with a liberal government anyways. And the Fox News host is like, are you sure? Yeah.

Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the guy. I'm like, oh man, I'd hate to be a liberal voter the next day watching that and trying to put that math together in their head. Oh, but they are.

Oh, my gosh. The comments of people there. I swear it's like if you are a liberal there is no wrong that could ever happen you will always find a way for it to make sense and for it to so what's the best theory you've you've got or you've seen of people trying to put together Donald Trump's comments from the liberal point of view um okay so I have a few that are very funny also sorry you can definitely hear my dog barking but I can't shut her up so we're just going to let her do her thing right now um but isn't the first time time. So there's two things that are hilarious. One of them is people are now saying that Trump and Poliev have conspired with each other. And this just signals that they are that much more in bed with selling Canada or something, which I just think is, I'm like, wow, already then. And also, too, you go from how many months of saying, well, we take Donald Trump at his word, except for this time. We're not taking him out of his word. He definitely has a plan here. But he didn't before.

No, no, no. It's just right now he does, though. because we know that this looks bad for us. So that's just ridiculous. But then the other one that I've heard that's really interesting is because, you know, my interpretation of that, two things. One, is this some crazy reverse psychology, possibly? Two, does he actually feel that way? Probably.

And I don't necessarily know that it's because Pierre Pollyev has been so mean to him, as he says. I don't think that that's true because, you know what? He says that. And then in the same comment, he also says how the liberals are so nasty. So I'm like, okay, well, which one is it here? But I'm, I've also heard a lot of people say that this is really good news and this is exactly why we need to vote for Mark Carney because he's going to be the one who's going to get a fair deal with Donald Trump. And I'm like, what does a fair deal mean to you, though?

Because, you know, if you think about past history, which is the best way to predict what's to come in the future, Mark Carney has long been selling out anybody for his own financial interest. That's well documented. Pierre Polyev hasn't at all, really. Oh, yeah, he's a career politician. All rightydy then. I still don't. I'm like, yeah, great. The dude has been reelected how many times. He's remained in politics since he was young. And it's also just goes to show their lack of education because there's so many people on the liberal party that first got involved in politics when they were far younger than Pollyav. So I just think that that's always funny. But it's crazy. The pretzels people will spin themselves into in order to justify it and make it make sense and look promising.

And then they just write you off as being Russian propaganda or mega. I'm like, what? Like I'm so, you know what? Honestly, when it comes to politics right now, I am just praying for a world where we can go back to using insults that all of us know instead of regurgitating. insults that we heard three weeks ago. That would be great. What do you mean by that? When you say insults we just heard three years ago, you're probably going to say it. I'm like, oh. Just like the mass indoctrination, you know, like, and I don't mean to say that to sound super crazy, but also again, it's well documented. Go read up some statistics and facts when it comes to media sciops and stuff. And there's a lot of pieces to pick apart that you can check. Yep,

that's happening here in Canada. Canada, but just even, you know, the term career politician. Nobody said that at all. And then all of a sudden, mainstream media started saying career politician. And then the liberal started saying career politician. And now 16 year olds call Pierre Polly have a career politician. It's so annoying. And I'm like, that's not like, why if that is an insult that's in your vocabulary, why haven't you used that for literally everybody? Like, Karina Gould was first elected, not into parliament, but she was elected in a government position when she was 23. Polyev was when he was 25.

Where was all the career politician slams at Karina Gould during the leadership race, you know, or even, you know, funded by Russia. Again, another thing is put into place by the Trudeau government, exacerbated by the media. The Hogue report comes out and says, no, Russia isn't even in the top three of people were concerned about, but people are still saying, oh, you want your rubles. This is a Russian propaganda account. I'm like, this is insane.

Like, just these insults that people never used that they say to win an argument or to shut you up that nobody ever heard of or used before. Even here's another one. I don't know if you've heard this. This is new for me. People calling you a smooth brain, which is essentially saying that you're dumb, like your brain is smooth. Same thing. I swear I heard that like one time on a video. that went viral and everybody says it now.

Come on. Can we just get back to the to the OG of calling people stupid when they're stupid? You know, instead of having all these weird talking point lines to shut people up. I'm just so tired of that. I'm so tired of it. So I'm praying that an election maybe will eliminate some of the woke mind virus in this country, but I'm not very hopeful. Yeah.

I don't know if you're going to get much of hope out of me. I got, um, I got, um, I got certainly people have been on who think conservatives are going to win and life is going to carry on and certainly take different twists and turns with a Pieroin. But, you know, there's a growing part of the population on this side. One is Carney winning or liberals winning is the best possible thing because the only way to fix the country is by Alberta leaving. That is, that's one thought process. The other, the other one that is, is, you know, if, if you go down the rabbit holes and you, and, you know, you think about 2020, was it a stolen election in the U.S.? Was COVID, you know, manmade released down that rabbit hole, you know, wherever you slide on these, you look at Kearney and you go, well, he's the epitome of what that all adds up to.

And him being put in as the Prime Minister of Canada, I think Canadians are naive. I think I'm naive to think that that isn't exactly their hand that they're playing right in front of us. Now, can we know that for sure? No, I can't. They did knock off 250,000 liberal votes the night before. With no explanation either, which is interesting.

Which is interesting. Yeah. And then you also have a leadership race. race as well. You knock out every other candidate with reasons that don't really make sense. You know, to be honest, foreign interference at this point in time, I'm just irritated by hearing it. I'm like, listen, if you wanted to, if you wanted to do foreign interference, right, maybe you shouldn't have paid off the Hogue reports to say that there wasn't any corruption because it was all on your end then. Like I, like, I don't believe anything about foreign interference at this point.

Obviously, it exists, duh. But I'm saying in the way that it's used and it's always used at conservatives never the other way around um and so you have ruby dala and then that other dude who chandra chandra aria i think is his name who both get removed um and they're removed for both reasons that have to do with some sort of an interference is was the official reason or something that has to do with some of their accounts that are voting for them which is funny because you know i went through mark carney's donation list and they the one thing that they said with ruby dala was that she had had too many people who donated that were from the same family, which is, that's not against the rules, by the way, because you could have, oh, I don't know, a husband and wife who are both members

who vote. That's legal. But for some reason with Ruby Dala, it wasn't. And if you look into Mark Carney as an example from the documents that I saw, he had the Bronfman family who has long been accused of having their overseas tax havens. The Bronfman family has been involved in so many big, big scandals over the years. They're a very powerful family that a lot of people don't know about. They're the daughter or the, it would be the niece, perhaps, of the two eldest surviving members of the family as well. She was involved in that nexium cult. They've been involved in a lot of really crazy stuff. And you had multiple people with different names from the Bronfman family donating to Mark Carney, which just right off the hop sounds crazy to me. They've long supported liberals,

though, don't get me wrong. They also donated to Trudeau's campaign. But the point I'm getting at here is, you know, if you go through the donation list for everybody else, there's certainly people from the same family that donated, right? And it was totally fine. So you go and you whip off these other two people and then you're left with a leader where the cabinet excluding Karina Gould, if I'm, I think she's the only one, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember if is Bayliss on Mark Carney's camp? I don't remember if he was renewed a position or not. But either way. Um, so yeah, so you then you end up having Mark Carney win. And he adds, you know, like Christiania Freeland, all the same people from Trudeau's cabinet.

We're so different though. Um, and even Karina Gould's prior to it said that she was going to have every single one of them on. I'm like, that's not a leadership race then. If every single one of you already has backdoor deals with each other, no matter who it is that wins, you're all going to still be there. Like that's not how that should work. Sure. Is it legal? Yes.

But just because it's legal doesn't. make it ethical or moral. So I really, the Mark Carney stuff, it scares me a lot. I will be honest there. And it scares me a lot because there's so many people, far too many people who do not take their time to research things. And it is bizarre to me how people will defend things that are clearly unacceptable. And whether, and again, sure, is it legal?

Okay, but just because it's legal, because rules haven't been changed for years that they clearly exploited doesn't make it right. And people should be upset about that in and of itself. Like that, that aspect scares the hell out of me. This is why I'm becoming probably cynical is because everything that we watched happen with the liberal leadership race, right? Gould, uh, not gould, the, the dude and then Ruby happened in the conservative. leadership race. I literally sat in this studio with Joseph Orgo and Theo Flurry the day after, the day of them hitting signatures and money to run in that leadership race. Did they ever run? No, because conservatives X them. And then another guy who's been in the studio, Grant Abraham, same thing.

And, you know, what is the common thread there? They, uh, probably not going to be controlled. It would be my, my, just simple way of putting, they're going to talk about some things that I would argue the conservatives, whether they don't want it talked about, or maybe from a political mindset, believe it wouldn't appeal to the voter base or to Canadians as a whole, that it would smear them as, I don't know, conspiracy theorists or whatever the going trend in the narrative is. So both sides are doing the same thing. And we've seen it, we've seen it, uh, provincially with, with different people here, uh, for certain, uh, once again for the UCP in my eyes, current government, remove certain people that I've had on the show that I'm like, I think you'd be a heck of a candidate. Holy Macon. Why don't they want you in there? Right. Like, and you watch the liberals do the same thing. Why is that? Why Ruby? And, you know, they point to, um, India influencing it. You know, like, oh, that's the low hanging fruit, folks. That's the easy one. well, we got at least 11 MPs. We still don't know who they are. And, you know, they're just carry on with life. I think in the case of Ruby there too, and this is me just, I don't know, maybe playing

devil's advocate a tad or not. It's very interesting how the same party that welcomes immigration and is so pro, all of the compassion in the world, the second that they need to use a card like that, in order to shut people up and shut them down, they do. And they've done that plenty of times, actually. And it's just really interesting to me how, you know, they go and say, and it's not like Ruby as far as she is documented, hasn't received any evidence of their claims.

And so they just go and, oh, it's India. I'm like, well, that actually sounds kind of racist, just going to throw that out there, which I thought you guys hated. But okay, cool. I just, I think that, you know, I, ah, it's so hard to say. Like, obviously I would prefer if the conservatives won. I like a lot of their messaging. I like a lot of their platform.

I would like to think that our economy would do better with them. I like to think that they aren't as involved in the elite establishment. But also, there has been some things that have happened. over the years and you and you also just never really know so it's it's tough and and i think again that kind of goes to show like just how bad our political landscape is that you do there's been so many things that have actually happened um and proven that even when something isn't it's like your mind will speculate still and put pieces together because well that that's a real possibility right And that just really, really sucks for all of us ahead of this election.

But I certainly think anybody at least who is planning to vote liberal, I don't know. I guess we need to pray for them a lot because I don't know how there's so much of this information that I have. And I've done so many deep dives on Mark Carney. I've been familiar with Mark Carney for such a long time. And I was warning about him back in 2020 even when it was first announced that he was on, And it was on paper, at least, that he was advising the Trudeau government. I remember having conversations with my mom about him.

My mom's really liberal, by the way, like a loyal liberal. She's really supportive of everything that I do, though. But what was it back in 2020? I find this interesting because, you know, like, I always say on this side, you know, I have a, well, I don't know. Sympathy is probably the right word for a lot of people because, like, you know, up until 2021, on. I was the guy who was still, I'm still a diehard Oilers fan. Sorry, folks. I still love the Oilers. Hey, the Oilers is the only jersey I own. So they haven't been good since 96, but I still love them.

I have a signed lays chip bag from Mark Messier. It's in a glass box. I'm not even joking. That's a cool story. And that's a, you know, think of the, yeah, that's a signed Lays chip bag. Well, he was a sponsor or whatever. Yes, yes. Yeah, absolutely. He was the Lays guy. Yeah, I don't even know where I was going. Oh, I totally lost your train. You got me with Lays chips. I'm like thinking I'm like, I wonder what now I'm like, I wonder what 20 year old or well, not more than that.

Almost 30 year old Lays chips taste like, probably not great. No, maybe they taste amazing though. They're probably very well. They're signed by Mark Messier. Yeah. Silliest story ever. You were talking about being cynical, 20, what happened in 2020. Oh, my God.

Thank you. You know, like this is what a good radio host does. You know, it's like, Sean's got a train and it just like stopped dead and the track. I got you. I was saying 2021, I was the dummy. So when you come along for all these things, it's like I have a lot of time for people who are just catching up. We're still kind of sleep. I mean, I'm having a harder time with it every day because I'm like, really?

Not now? Come on. But in fairness, I'm sure there was people back in like, 2018 they were like Sean really really but uh Mark Kearney I you know I I sit here we got we have a book club we talk about a lot of things Mark Kearney was on zero people's radar at least in our world what was it back then or in your research that when you saw Mark Kearney like holy crap this guy well I'm so happy you said that so I would say some of the biggest red flags that I have I may have

the year wrong by a year possibly if you go and fact check me but i believe it was in 2017 mark carney had first uh he had first started publishing papers and doing interviews and things like that about uh uh uh central banking digital currencies and they were saying that all those things were going to be so great for the economy oh one economy blah blah blah but with central banking digital currencies obviously you know we've seen how that works in history when government have control over the economy, it doesn't work out so well, now does it? In fact, you don't even have to go that far back historically. There are nations alive and well today, alive, I don't know about well, who are in those predicaments and it has been horrendous for them. Example being in North

Korea, did you know that the average height of a grown human is typically below five feet? And the reason for that is due to decades of malnutrition in their genetics, that they just simply are not as tall as people elsewhere are. Why do they have that problem? Because the government is in full control of their money. It is in full control of their life. And they proposed the exact same idea many years ago. And similarly, too, this is going to be great. Yeah, you won't need to, you won't have any more responsibilities anymore. You're just going to live your life. It's going to be great. Yeah, we'll have jobs for you. We'll make sure you have everything that you need. That's never, ever how the story ends, though. So that was a really big red flag for sure. And then around the same time,

frame, I believe it was about a year or so after that. Mark Carney, he was also involved in the Glasgow Net Zero Alliance. That's not the full name of it. I'm missing a word in there. And net zero is something that is horrible, absolutely catastrophic. And absolutely, it's impossible as well. And it literally is one of those things where, and here's probably why I really started investigating Mark Carney so much, because I became very curious as to. you know, we've suddenly heard in recent years, I recall when I was younger, like, I remember, I remember my mom telling me, oh, yeah, in 2000, you know, all of the technology was supposed to be wiped out. In 97, they told us that by 97, there wasn't going to be enough food

to feed the world because of climate change. Everybody was going to starve to death. There's published papers that you can find in archives about this stuff from, you know, 30 years prior to those dates. And none of those things ever came true. And it got me down this rabbit hole of thinking, well, who is it exactly that is pushing for this stuff? Because when I'm just out on the street, I never ever hear people talking about climate change. I never hear people talking about net zero, carbon neutrality. I never hear those things. And I'm looking around and, you know, there was a wildfire by my cabin a number of years ago. And it's grown back beautifully. And it's just this lush, beautiful area that's totally replenished. And you would think if there wasn't enough

plant food out there that the forest would have just disappeared. It would be nothing. It'd be a wasteland. And that's that's not the case. And you have other forests in the world that continue to expand. They're growing like crazy. Well, if carbon is so bad, why are all of these things happening? And who's telling us that these things are bad? And that was when I started to learn that oftentimes, or not oftentimes, since the beginning of time, the people pushing for these things are all people who are involved with the World Economic Forum, the United Nations. There's a number of countries in the EU as well. And then there's a couple of other organizations that have been around for decades that have been pushing these exact same things. And again, every single one of their predictions has been false. And nobody fact checks them on that.

Nobody critiques them for that. They come around and they say the exact same crap that they've been saying to us on the world stage for how many years. And nobody says anything. Like, oh, that's weird that you're still pushing for this because, well, you know, it hasn't happened. And it's also a lot of government elites, political lobbyists registered or unregistered. I personally classify Mark Carney as an unregistered political lobbyist. I mean, if you think about all of his investments in climate and whatever, obviously. And even there was a clip going viral of him from a conference that he had in the United States, if I'm not mistaken, where he had been pushing for green, it was green gas or green fuel for for planes where essentially the organization that he was involved in had pressured companies,

some of which in America, some of which have actually since sued by saying that all of these other airlines were going to be making it a requirement that you have a certain percentage of your fuel that is green sourced, whatever that means. And so companies went, they invested billions of dollars into it. And lo and behold, we're at a position in the world where that hasn't really come true to full fruition the way that they were told that it was going to. So they essentially lied either intentionally or unintentionally because they're just so ideologically driven and they really believe this stuff that all of these businesses were going to have to change course to allow for green things to happen. And it costs tons of money. And none of that stuff actually happened.

And so when you think about the fact that there's so many people out there who are pushing for these things that have been pushed for decades that aren't pushed by everyday citizens. And they never were until the government and the media started talking about it. That was the only time that everyday citizens started feeling afraid like I did when I saw Al Gore all those years ago when people talked about these things. And so I, you know, I just feel like there's so many little rabbit holes to go down. And then even recently you hear Mark Carney talking about carbon credits. Carbon credits is something Mark Carney has been talking about since, gosh, probably 2017, 2018 or something. And it is essentially that in order to emit carbon as a big polluter,

and this is something he said he wants to bring into Canada. He said this, I think it was three days ago, three or four days ago, he said this on stage. It essentially means that you have to pay in order to emit the carbon that your machinery or your plane is emitting. And those things, if you actually look at the models, they always present them as being so good for everybody. And they're not at all, actually. They're very good for the elite who can afford them. And they're absolutely devastating for people who cannot. And, you know, even too, you think about Mark Carney and the carbon tax and all these things. And it's like, what is the like, as an example, I actually did the math on this this morning. So in order, Mark Carney, if he took just two private jet trips a year,

or eight regular aircraft trips a year, let's be real, he says he doesn't fly private. I literally watched him walked off the steps of a private plane when he was in the UK. So, okay. But so if he were to fly two private trips a year, he would actually emit in those two flights alone, more carbon into the atmosphere, if that's the scary thing we're talking about, then the average human would in eight to 10 years of their life. And if he flew, you know, and that is also comparable to just a regular aircraft where it was 10 to 15 flights depending on the aircraft. It'd be the same as eight to 10 years of you and me in our lifetimes. And, you know, you just look at those numbers. And to me, too, I'm like, well, I'll start believing it when you start, when you start believing it, I guess,

because like you're supposed to be a leader, you're supposed to lead by example. You're not doing that. So clearly it's not a big threat, right? If it was actually this huge existential crisis, why would you take a random trip to the UK to talk with all of these other people from the W.EF and from the UN, even though Justin Trudeau and Melanie Jolie were just there a week and a half ago to do the exact same talks. It doesn't make any sense. And also, too, you know, they, sorry, I'm on a rant now. They always say with net zero, we have to achieve net zero. what exactly does that mean? Number one, it's nearly impossible to achieve.

Number two, net zero would cost the average government trillions of dollars a year. Trillions of dollars. And the end result of it is nothing really because it actually doesn't really do anything. If you start to go through all of that data, it doesn't do anything. You know, what to lower the climate, like the, oh, we want it to be one degree colder than it is right now. And I'm like, well, what happened to the ice age you were telling us about in the 50s? That never happened. And then it was a global warming.

And now apparently carbon's the big problem. And then I heard something again recently, oh, it might be another ice age. I'm like, this is just, this is a total scam. Like, this is a total scam. And we have decades of history to prove that. And Mark Carney has been somebody very involved at the highest level with all of these things. And to hear him reiterating some of the same comments that I've read about him in reports that he's been a part of and groups that he's been a part of in the past.

It's just like, wow, Canadians, you have been horribly fooled. And I'm terrified for our future if you do not wake up to what this man actually wants to do. End rant. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I enjoyed it. Parts of it, I'm like, you know, the thing that comes to mind is rules for thee and not for me. 100%. And what are the things that we talk about with COVID?

You know, the thing that just literally happened is like, all these rules you can't get together and then hearing Alberta what what was the beginning of the end maybe maybe albertans are going to tell me what the beginning of the end was but you know the the the rooftop palace the the dinner the them drinking wine all together with no masks on meanwhile we're supposed to not be around each other and you know and none of it made sense and you know we lived life for like that and it was insane and they do it by fear they make you feel scared and there's a lot of people in on that that make you feel scared and you know I'm not at the point either where I have absolutely no trust in any government I'm not I'm not there I believe that

there are a lot of really good people with really good intentions who work jobs like that who are told information that isn't accurate by people who they really trust and respect and then that can kind of sway them so I'm not at a point where I completely distrust the government but man, I completely distrust. I completely distrust the elitist, the globalist. I need the W.E.F to get wrecked. I need them out of my life. I'm quite convinced. Is there great people in every industry? 110%. But the machine is a machine for a reason. And the bureaucracy of the machine is there for a reason. And when you look at anything the government touches, they can have the greatest ideas. But when they implement it,

It goes, it goes south, whether it's right now or in five or 10 years when a different group comes in and uses the same tool that was, you know, we look at Doge. We look at the things going on in the United States. I think it's amazing. They, like, they're just getting rid of a ton of spend. What do people warn about? well, the technocracy that's that's sliding in behind it. And you go, well, no. So then you get in the argument. Well, what are they not supposed to do anything? Or what are you trying to say here? It's like, well, it's just in 10 years, well, we have the same thoughts.

Like, you know, when you look at, when you go back to 9-11 and I'm not here to get down that rabbit hole folks, just that, you know, the Patriot Act and all the different things that came in with that. Back then, you were, you're like, oh, thank God, they're searching us and making sure they're safe from nobody's stealing planes. Like, or bringing bombs on. Now it's like, oh my God, to go through an airport, it's insanity. It's like, does any of this make sense anymore? We're just being hurted like cattle at times, you know? And then when COVID hit, I mean, really, your points of leaving a country here in Canada specifically, they just, they just rolled up all the international airports.

Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal, maybe, maybe. Three for sure. So if you're anywhere in Alberta, Minnesota, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, you're flying through Calgary. Well, I mean, you, you, you, uh, choke out the, the exit points, right? And, and start to do things, like that you're like, mm, this is the hard thing about looking what's going on and trying to understand where we're being led to.

And then try and get through all the division that's being created on top all that. And it's like the, these conversations are Uber important. Like it's super cool to see, um, people such, yourself and others that I get to have on the show just like coming out of nowhere in my mind nowhere i've already heard your story and i'm like oh you did not come taken don't worry but you didn't come out of nowhere in canada i'm just like where are all these voices and one of the things i hope i'm doing on the show is we get to promote them right we get to bring them on i'm like oh man this is cool we found another one folks and uh like it's it's it's really really important for

people to to wrestle with these things because it's it's not just like i don't know simple. I wish it was. It's so complex all these different things going on. And there's lots of nuance. There's lots of nuance and details. And it's easy to, it's easy to go down rabbit holes that are dead leads. And it's easy. There's just so much. The sciops is a big one. That's something I'm big on researching right now. I'm hoping to have a video that is much deeper into that in the coming weeks because that has just been a trip into half. And I swear it's like once you, now I sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, but mark my words. I will end up being right. Hard to do that on this side. When you talk when you talk siops, what's the what's the crazy

like you're like, I don't know, maybe you didn't know or maybe you had a feeling, but then you start digging into it. When you talk sciops, what sticks out to you? Or what, what's you're like, man, people are going to go. I'd say the biggest things has just been the and I talk about this a lot and people call me crazy and I don't care because I'm very confident in my beliefs with this. And I also do what I can to ground myself as well. Like I'm, it's, you know, when I hear something that's really crazy, I will do everything that I possibly can to convince myself that it is crazy before I'll actually admit it out loud what it was that I found. And so with SciOps, you know, here, we'll use this as a just a lame example, but CBC as an example, it's been funded by the

federal government since its creation, right? However, let's say, in more recent years. So when Harper was running, he had announced that he was going to be decreasing the funding of the CBC by about 150 million, I think it was. And when Justin Trudeau was running to replace him, he said that he was going to increase the funding of the CBC. I think it would take a special kind of idiot to not think in the slightest that whoever pays your bills is somebody that you don't want to upset, right? That's why we don't blow up at our bosses when they say things that make us mad often. And so the CBC became unbelievably left-leaning after Justin Trudeau increased all of that funding. And then he also introduced a new broadcast act, which gave them

extra funding in 2018. And we have seen the evolution of how much more biased they have become as a result of that. The CBC has always had some sort of a political bias for the record. It's usually been more left leaning. But back in the 90s, you know, their, their trustworthiness ratings were definitely much more center than what they are today. And today you see, I was looking at a graph recently where it said it was 70% of Canadians think that media in Canada, mainstream media, has a bias to the point where they actually don't really trust it and they're going to see other sources. And so you see things sometimes, and it's always these little details. And they're little details because you don't notice them, but they have an impact on your emotion and they have

an impact on your takeaway of a certain story. So this is probably a silly example. But, you know, just yesterday, CTV News had posted an article that said something to the effect. The headline was immigration lawyer, sorry, immigration lawyer warns Canadians traveling to the U.S. amid tariff war. When you hear that, the takeaway there is, oh, okay, so wow, it must be really hard to be a Canadian traveling to the U.S. right now. The U.S. is obviously cracking down on even tourists. I should cancel my trip to Florida with my kids to take them to Disney World. But then when you read the article, the article is actually about people who have permanent residency, people who are on different visas and stuff. There was that story that came out recently of that young woman who was detained by

ICE, which was very bizarre. We haven't seen something like that ever, I think. And so that was the contents of the story, but the headline of the story left you with a different impression that this was going to affect me and it's something that I need to be afraid of. And you see little things like that where it's disingenuous and it's it's intentionally disingenuous. It really is. And you'll see media. There's been some wonderful examples of this, especially in the United States, where you will have several different news personalities, accounts.

stuff like that that will publish something and it's the exact same copy and pasted wording. That's bizarre. You have had videos coming out of reporters on their personal pages and things like that where they are telling a story casually to the camera and there will be several others who told the exact same story casually to their camera. That's bizarre. And that's not normal. You can't chalk that up to a weird coincidence over a breaking news story. Like you just can't. One or two, okay, maybe. One or two that happens every 10 years. Yeah, okay, maybe.

They just happen to have the exact same take and the exact same wordage. But there's so many little details like that. And one thing that I've really noticed in Canadian media is the play on your emotion. So there will almost always in stories be some sort of an emotional trigger, either to make you feel afraid or worried, to make you feel angry, like you resent the U.S. And moreover, we're seeing this a lot now with the tariff situation where so many headlines. and so many stories are starting with things like more and more Canadians are choosing to boycott the U.S. Oh, the, what is that called? The border, whatever the, what is that called? When you get to the border? Customs. Yeah, there we go. Has reported seeing 5,000 less Canadians entering the

country than usual. And what are those things do is Canadians and people as a whole are very much we're herd mentality. That's how we have survived, right? Most people have insecurities and they don't want to be the odd one out, which is why this type of stuff works so well to manipulate their school of thought and their takeaway without them even realizing that it's been happening. And that's something that governments have been involved in for decades. And so the reason why they have things written that way is because it's supposed to make you feel ashamed if you were one of the people who decided that you were still going to go to the U.S. and it's supposed to make you you feel like you're a bit of an outsider if everybody else is doing something and you're not or

vice versa. And there's just so many little things like that that I pick up on that I've again researched at length in terms of like the Sciop playbook that has been used for decades in Canada and the US and around the globe. So many things like that. And they're so small you would never, ever notice them. But after you hear certain messages after a period of time, it is actually incredibly easy to permeate that portion of your brain. It's incredibly easy to do so. And it's very scary. And I see, I've seen so many things like that, especially amid this, this Trump tariff war. I was seeing it beforehand as well, but especially now, it's in almost every day, there's one of those little messages where if you dig deeper, the story isn't about

what the message is or it's worded in a way that's meant to invoke some sort of fear or reaction or heard mentality. And that stuff's really scary. And I fully believe that they absolutely, they absolutely do it on purpose. And that's why you have so many people who have no idea what's actually going on and they will proudly throw out these political talking points and feel like they've won a conversation, even though they failed to actually investigate what it is that they're talking about. Well, I was going to say, no shame on this side. Hey folks. Like, I mean, we got a bunch of people who definitely don't conform to the patterns of society.

I have a question for you, actually. I was talking about this with one of my friends who does a podcast out in Nova Scotia. And I had said to him, you know, with so much of the rhetoric lately, I have days where I'm at a point where I'm like, okay, so is everybody else right? And am I just absolutely radicalized because there are so many people who have such a different takeaway from this than I do. But then I go and I read through all of the information again and I'm like, no, I still have the same takeaway. And I try so hard to see their side of it.

And I just don't. Do you ever feel that way sometimes? Like, isn't it just so bizarre that there's like maybe I'm losing my mind. Yeah. Like it's just the answer is yes. Okay. And I'm not alone. And yet then, so, yeah, yeah, you know, like, I remember Jordan Peterson interview, and I forget the person that was interviewing him, but she was asking almost that identical question. Like, why don't people see this? And he's like, well, for one, you're a journalist. And so a journalist is going to find things before anyone else finds them. That's your entire purpose of a job. You're the tip of the spear, if you would.

And a lot of the things, you know, that you've talked about, even Carney, think about that. Think about bringing him up back in 2020. Being like, oh my God, Carney's there. I would have been like, who? Yeah. And I listen, even four months ago, most Canadians would have been like who? Right. It's like they can't see.

So it's a unique skill that you have, right? You can see, you can read things and then see where it leads. You know, imagine being Eldis Huxley. Elvis Huxley, right? Is it Aluxley? or is it who wrote 1984 why am i spacing on the name is it huxley it doesn't feel right george orwell yes thank you he's brave new world oh so such a good amazon tv series so george orwell writes 1984 and if you read that back in the 40s you're like what is this guy smoking and yet we read it now and you're

like oh my god or i think of atlas shrugged with a and rand and i read it and i'm like this is exactly what's happening right now go read some c s lewis and he he has essays where literally paints where we are. I actually have a book of his essays in the background of this. C.S. Louis? Yeah. Oh, it's fantastic. It's fan. Yeah. I've been, I've been reading. I've never read Narnia, but I've read almost everything else by him since I was quite young. Me and Jasmine are quickly becoming best friends, I think.

So when you talk about, you go, I go back to the Jordan Peterson interview. And he's just like, you're there in doing what you're doing because you're going to find it faster in everybody. And everybody else is playing catch up if they're playing at all. So if they're not playing, if they're just going to the Oilers game or watching the Four Nations Cup or just take your list of other things. And I sit where I sit. I have three young kids married. Like they just, I got a beautiful life away from all of this. Right.

And if you get just trapped, not even trapped in the sense like trapped, but just like you get so busy where you're running. You just can't. You're like, I just, I can't take any more information. Those days happen to me and this is my job. Yeah. Same. You know, I can see how you can listen to someone. You are losing your top, you know?

And so when you ask that question, sitting here, yes. Is it once a month? Is it once a week? It's somewhere in between, I would say, like, oh, my God, am I, have I lost my mind? And then I go back and I start doing add it, you know, I call it addition. I'm like, no, that happened and then that happened. Did that actually happen? Like, did that?

Yeah, that happened, John. Okay. then I get back to where I'm at. And it's like, Mark Carney is, I haven't had one person come on the show and go, Mark Carney is exactly what we need. He's a globalist, elitist, all these lovely words. He's going to get us out of this. He's going to be amazing.

I'm like, nope, no, that's not true at all. So, no, yes, your question in my long way around it is, yes, I think if you sit in these chairs and do these conversations, it's hard not to at times get to conclusions that may never happen because these conversations are happening right when journalism is happening like true journalism is breaking stories and talking about things it alters the course of where a narrative is going it's hard not to right yeah it's it's seeing the pushback from the other side that's that's really interesting if i can be honest um you know it's one of the reasons why and again this is through so

much research and and even talking with friends of mine who have come here from from really not great countries like the one I told the story about earlier. It's one of the reasons why I absolutely resent social programs in the degree that they are applied right now and encouraged and pushed because I think that exactly as my friend had said, when you become too dependent on those things, you stop becoming critical and you stop thinking and you stop caring because this is what's keeping you afloat right now. And there's all sorts of things that the government rolls out that absolutely, yeah, that's great. People need it. Sure. Great. Love that. Well, we can't afford it, though. Our grandchildren's grandchildren are going to be paying it off. So that's a major red flag. And nobody,

instead of just saying, oh, this is awesome, I have this extra help. Why is nobody asking, why do we need this? What? Like my grandparents. survived and they had a ton of kids and they didn't have $10 a day child care. They were fine. They didn't have a school food program. They were fine. And these things, again, I understand. And it's, I'm like, I'm, I'm very compassionate. And people even on my show get upset with me sometimes when I try to ration things out because I absolutely understand that there are so many people who are underserved. And there's a lot of people who are really struggling. And I would give everything I could to make them get out of that hole. But, you know, you know,

You also aren't responsible for what is happening in someone else's life. If there's something you can do where there is actually going to be a path that they can pull themselves out of because they want to pull themselves out of that, I love that. I think that that's great and we should always support that. But if you are putting things in place solely to get votes at the expense of the rest of your country because of the increased taxes, and also, you know, at the expense of the people who, who, do really need it. I mean, $10 a day child care is a great example. You had wait times that were once an average of two to three years, which are now over six years. So by the time that you get it, your kid doesn't need it anymore in most cases. And I think about things like that. And even myself, I have plenty of friends. I have nephews and everything too who like my friends and family will

tell me, then they'll complain about how annoying it is, that there's like stay at home moms who will utilize that $10 a day day care because they just want a day for themselves, which, okay, cool, I get it, I guess, kind of not really actually. I don't know. I love kids. So it's hard. I'm like, even if they're screaming in my face, I'd love hanging out with them. Well, you're hitting on. So like one of the, the probably monumental issues we have in Canada is one of like, you know, it's not easy to fix. And that is, you know, we look to the government. to solve all of our problems, right? So like you go back to what you're the story you're telling.

At one point, you got married and you had kids and one person stayed home. Now, was it always the woman on the vast majority? Yes, but like, you know, you can argue about that all you want. And that's what life was. It was very focused on the family and you had, you know, when you're talking 10 kids and different families like that, there's a lot of that was farming background. Why? Well, I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory to what your lifestyle was and what you were doing and probably some of your values there. And as we fast forwarded it,

fast forwarded. Now, like, you know, one kid families, maybe, you know, like our birth rate is declining. And part of that is, is not because people don't want kids. It's because it's, it's expensive. And, like, life in Canada has become like this, like, you go to the grocery store and you come home. You're like, that's what I got. That's what I got. Okay. right and yet you know we're giving $10 day daycare that's going to fix everything we got what was the what was the dental care for people in their later life you're like that's what we're worried about like to me you know you mentioned the story earlier about the 5,000 they've seen a decline and people going to the states like well the obvious answer is look at our dollar I know to go to the united states has nothing

to do with I hate the United States it's like I can't afford to go there And that's what I hate about mainstream media. It's like, it's just low hanging fruit where you could actually talk to the story is the fact that our dollar is absolutely in the toilet. And we can't afford to do anything as Canadians. We're literally, you know, like our money is becoming monopoly money. Truly, it's just not going to buy you anything. And so I agree with you.

I guess when I come back to it, you know, I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan. It's the reason why I got into podcast. in a weird way. And like, clean your room. Not the easiest thing to do. It is and it isn't. But then like you do that. If you're married, then you got to start looking at your relationships and then your kids

and your house. And if we all did that here in Canada, we'd have a wild, wild place to live again. Yeah. But sadly, that's not the value system of what's been pushed on our population or what they want. Just your story about, I'm going to take $10 day so I can have a day away from my kids. you know it's like i understand having a break but to you know take a taxpayer's money to have a like that doesn't even well and too it's like at the expense of somebody else who actually maybe really

really needs it a single mom let's say um and of course it's hard to it's hard to weed out each and every case but i've heard so many stories like that about so many different things and people are always going to take advantage of a system but you can only take advantage of a system if there are ways for you to take advantage of it, right? So, you know, these things, like I said, it's like I, I love everybody and I want everybody to have the most amazing life imaginable. And if there's something somebody else can do that's going to help you achieve that, I think that's the most beautiful thing. That's, that's the highest aim any of us can have here on Earth in some degree. But the way that things are rolled out, the way that, how much they cost and all these things, it's not good in the

grand scheme of things. I have something. You said something about child care that I don't know, just brought up a story that I feel like more people need to hear. Am I allowed to go off for a second? No, that's it, folks. We're done for today. So in Canada, we have very, very low birth rates for natural born citizens, right? That's why we have such high mass immigration. And now we're at a point where natural born citizens can't find a job. And there's a lot of problems or house. but in so are you familiar with what they did in Hungary? Yes. Like well?

I best define well. I understand what they did, but maybe you shock me here this morning. So in Hungary, I can't remember what year this was. It was like within the last decade or so, though, their conservative party was very right-leaning and they were very anti-abortion because they, if I'm allowed to say those words on here. Because they... Jasmine, on this side of the world, you're allowed to say whatever you want. So they were very, very anti- Just before you carry on with your story.

This is the state of Canada, you know? You say the word abortion and heads explode. And you're like, it's just like, folks, this has been created for us. I know I'm talking to the choir because my audience is fantastic. They're just like, they probably want me to steer harder into certain subjects by now. and carry on, Hungary. Okay, well, we can get to those after. So in Hungary, they had a very right-leaning conservative government that was very anti-abortion and very pro-family.

And they knew that saying that out loud to the public was not going to win them the election, but their country had some of the lowest birth rates in the world, the lowest fertility rates, like it was just really bad. And the conservative party out there really did not want to replace their population by importing residents from elsewhere. So what they decided to do instead is instead of running on, oh yeah, we're banning abortion. And I honestly feel like so many other countries should know this and should maybe try to implement something similar because that is a crisis that many nations are facing right now. So they decided to run on having these massive benefits for people who had families instead, where, you know, if you were a mother with up to four children, you had a lifetime that you no longer had to pay your personal income tax.

If you were a family of two, there were insane write-offs that you had insane tax incentives. It was just unbelievable what they did. And it wasn't, and abortion was still legal in the country to have. have, to my knowledge, it still is today. But the way that they positioned it was just really pro-family. They gave a baby bonus. And like, these are things too where like every time you have a kid, you're benefiting from it greatly. And by benefiting from it greatly, you're able to provide your child with a better life than you could have without those benefits. And that's where their tax dollars are going instead of some of the other wacky stuff that we see out there these days.

And it's really fascinating because within about a, within about a six-year period, they're now, one of the most or one of the highest fertility rates in all of Europe. And they are also the their abortions decreased by about 50% as well. And there's so many people now that just have these amazing, wonderful families and they want to keep having them. And like their productivity has grown. Their population has grown. Some of their statistics are still lower than they should be, but they have shot up immensely since this was first implemented because it hasn't been that long since this has been in place. And it's just fascinating. If I may, just to add to this, mothers with one child, women under 30 who have one child,

are eligible for a significant tax-based reduction until they turn 30. This is not a full exemption, but reduces the taxable incomes, income providing financial relief during their 20s. Mothers with two children starting January, 2026 will receive a lifetime personal income tax exemption. Mothers with three from October 2025, also fully exempt paying personal. mothers with four or more since 2020 have been granted a lifetime income tax exemption. I brought this, like I, to me, with the value set, I guess I come in. I'm like, I hear that and I'm like, oh my gosh. Genius.

Well, and you go and somewhere somebody's going, yeah, what about that crappy parent who has four kids to get away from paying taxes? I'm sure there will be abuse just like any government program. But when we go, we all, you know, on this side of things, I think, for the most part, we, we have a ton of time for the family and for kids. I'm like, what a, what a way to show what your values are by rewarding motherhood. That's exactly what that's doing. And in the best possible way, because even, you know, our oldest is about to turn nine. So nine years ago, 10 years ago, we were having the discussion of, uh, we were watching other couples where the mom was staying home.

Uh, and the discussion was, well, even if she did go to work, she's basically taking her entire income to pay for child care. So why don't we have her facing that right now? Yeah. So why don't we just have her stay home and now she's around the kid and the other argument was, was no, we, um, believe in, uh, you know, a woman having her career and, and her mental health, all the things that way so that they could pay and and it's just like how you value. you your time and your money and your kids and blah blah blah but it's a huge conversation if the conversation was you could not you you don't you could go to work or not you're just not paying

income tax anymore how many people like i'm doing i'm saying that again i don't have to pay income tax again because i had my third kid and and like i'm trying to make financial decisions and keep my life on track and balance everything like like that wouldn't be a sweeping win like Like everybody in the population would be like, heck yes, I'll take that. Well, I think- abortion and everything aside. It's just like, it's a brilliant stroke. I thought it was a really, yeah, I was really impressed with that.

And also the statistics as they update year by year since they first started rolling this out has just been fascinating. But to that point, bringing it back to Canada, you know, the thing about what they're doing in Hungary is it's all of these incentives for you to make decisions. for your life that the incentive there, it's not a program that you get that everybody else pays for. It's your own personal tax reduction in most cases. And there's baby bonuses essentially and stuff like that too in there and housing incentives and whatnot. But it is just beyond me, especially amid this tariff threat. And this is something that I said actually very early on when you had Jugmeet Singh talking about

how, oh, well, I'll keep propping up the government and until they, they finally agree to have some sort of a relief package for workers. And I'm like, why don't you just make workers work for money that makes sense by lowering their taxes? Like, what the hell? Why are, so I'm sorry. So instead of doing that, you instead need to collect more money from people now so that you can afford to pay this off plus the debt that. We're going to collect your money. And we're going to get, back to you. It's insane. That's the way we protect you. This makes sense. Yeah. And I'm tired of that. I'm tired of that. So like with Pierre Pollyev, hoping that he that he sticks to it, you know, a lot of his conversations lately have been about significantly reducing taxes.

And yep, you're absolutely going to feel that a little bit at first until it kind of stabilizes if that comes to fruition. But I do think that that is we we need, absolutely need to get people off of the government. dependency, especially people who don't necessarily. Welfare is very hard to get off of. Is that possible? Almost impossible. Think of all the government. I know.

When I think of Canada here, Jasmine, okay, and I'm like, okay, we need a ton of, like, reform, okay? Let's use that word. We just need to change some things. And you're like, who's going to vote for that? I know. I know. But I look at the liberal government possibly getting back in.

And I'm like, who's voting for that? A huge chunk of the West is not voting for that. We all know it's going to be a certain piece of the population, all centered in a couple of certain locations. And we're sitting here and we're like, oh, yeah, well, we need to get this in. And I love what Hungary's doing. I think that's brilliant. The messaging.

Is that ever coming to Canada? Probably not. Why? No. Because it's just. where this country's at. You know, okay, so how do you shake? How do you absolutely rattle the cage and maybe get a different deal?

And I keep coming back to this idea. And I think a lot of Albertans who have been maybe influencing my side of the way of thinking, because, you know, I've been living in Alberta now for over a decade, I guess. Wow. That's, I hadn't really thought about that in a while. And you go, this is the most raucous group of human beings. We got Daniel Smith, who every other province in Canada, that's conservative goes, she's doing amazing.

Here in Alberta, that's not the case. There's lots of people that want her to do more and different things and want her to, you know, you go to net zero. Well, you just, that, that's in there. And you go, this group of people want something different. And the longer I stare at this system called Canada, I'm like, the only way it is, is you got to get out of it at some point to renegotiate or to break it up so that people will. actually get out of this funk of like the government of Canada is here to save us or the government anything is here to say it's just like this is this is hard this is like this hurts my brain to watch everybody just be like well the government's you know they're doing all right they're

sticking up for us it's like you insane are we insane here you know you asked earlier do i question at times i go what is everybody else drinking that they are still hooked into the machine And then I think at times, one of my brothers will always point this out. I'm no longer controlled. You know, I've been doing this for full time. This will be the third straight year. Yeah, third straight year. So I'm three years removed from having an overseer that tells me what I can and cannot say

or what topic you can and cannot talk about. And the more I become removed from the system, I worry that I'm like, I'm moving further and further away from that where I can actually understand the population and what their worries are because I watch it. I'm just like, let's just get out of this, folks. We can do this. We get out of this. And there are brighter days ahead. You know, I think for myself, too, being a younger person who's, I've been conservative for a very long time. I'd say, like, I went through some phases where I was like, maybe I'm a libertarian. But I'd say now I'm pretty well a conservative through and through. Maybe there's a few things.

things that I'm still a little too compassionate about, but I'm working on those. But there's so many people, especially women, young women, and women naturally were just so much more sensitive and emotional. And there's been so many times where people will say to me things like, well, how could you be a conservative? Because, you know, that makes you this, this, this and this. Well, that means that you don't care about XYZ and you're promoting this rhetoric and this hate. You're promoting this rhetoric and this hatred and division, which is just ridiculous. But I got to a point, and this was actually not even that. This is probably like within the last year where I finally realized, like, I have the biggest heart ever and I have really pure intentions. You know, I am not somebody at all who is

driven by my ego. I am not driven by pride. I love to see other people win. And I'm, I love, I guess, just how my life has been set up and the things that I've worked hard on to get to this. position because I have now realized that I can be loving and compassionate and kind and I can be rational and logical all while being conservative still. Like I can be all of those things while maintaining my values. And just because what I believe in doesn't jive with whatever the narrative of the day is or whatever the blue-haired feminists are screaming about, that doesn't mean that I'm a bad person because, oh, I believe in the, I don't know, conserving the things that are great about us. Yeah, that's that, whoa, excuse me for expressing my democratic right for, you know,

following a perfectly legal party. So I think that that was a really big eye opener to in terms of making me not feel insane because people used to throw that at me all the time. People like, I feel especially like all of the people who don't like me. And there's definitely less of them than there are people who appreciate what I'm doing as far as I can tell. But, you know, that would always be one of the top ones. How could you as a woman? And now I'm like, yeah, you're right. As a woman, I love this. And this is the right path to me. This is where the right aim is. And I've done everything I can. I've spoken with so many people to try to convince myself otherwise because there's so many of you. And my natural instinct is to want to fit in. And this is the opposite of that in many, especially in

Manitoba. But I can't because I know that it's not true and I know that my heart is pure and my intentions are pure. And I know that what I'm doing, I'm following whatever that higher aim is, whatever my soul is telling me to do. And I know that that is the best course of action for my life. And yeah, I may be conservative. I may not like having mass immigration in our country. I may not like how much money is wasted on things that seemingly nobody else cares about. That doesn't make me a bad person at all. And I think I was silly for so long to think that it did, which, which caused me to not speak out about these things many, many years before, like, what I should have, instead of waiting so long until I finally did. Because I always wanted to do.

I don't know. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm early on this, late on this. I listen to it and I just go, So you probably have a very high ceiling or bright career head or whatever as long as can it doesn't go into like the dark ages under Mark Carney. And then maybe me and you will be sharing a similar prison cell. I'm not 100% sure, you know, like on that. We'll sneak a phone in or something. We'll still podcast out of there. That's right.

We'll have the morning show from the ghou legs. Yeah, but great back and forth, back and forth. I don't know if I should ask this, but what the heck. I'm like, you know, the first time I ever asked this was like three years ago with Drew Weatherhead. And at that time, I was like, what a taboo question. But I'm like, ah, heck, we've talked to gamut. Do you believe in God? Yes, 100%.

That's interesting. Why? Do you? I don't know. Does that make me a freak? No, God. No, goodness gracious, no. No.

No, I found God by going down this path. you know, the harder I tried to find the truth, you find out where the truth actually sits. And so I feel like, you know, like the CS Lewis in bouncing different things. I'm like, this is going to bug me. I'm going to get off this thing. And I feel like if it's bugging me, there's going to be like a thousand more people are like, so why didn't you just ask, you know? And I'm like, because folks, once upon a time, that was a taboo thing to say, just like saying abortion.

That's a, that's a taboo word saying God on a podcast. Holy Dina, we're going into there. No, you know. That doesn't make you crazy. That makes you just, that makes, that makes, yeah, yeah, I think we're fastly becoming best friends, isn't that, you know. Yeah. I, I, I grew up very religious. My grandma is from Belgium and she actually came here to be a nun.

And she was, she hadn't sworn anything yet. So Roman Catholic is my background. She hadn't sworn anything yet. She met my grandpa. She fell in love, decided to not become a nun, get married, have a huge family. They were all very, very, very, my grandpa as well, very, very involved in the church, though. My grandpa still is today. Roman Catholic is, you know, I'm a baptized Catholic, but man, I got to be honest with you.

Catholic ceremonies sometimes are a lot. So I definitely practice much more as a Christian in that, you know, even in Catholicism traditionally, even missing mass on a Sunday is considered a sin. And I've missed a lot of Sunday masses over my days. But yeah, no, I definitely, I, it's more than just believe it's like, I know. know. I know that I know that God is real 100%. And I really solidified that too after my, my ex-boyfriend passed away. It's pretty crazy if you are somebody who's kind of on the fence and if you just take that jump and, you know, you say, I'm listening and I'm here, just show me

and I'm here. The many little miracles that can happen in your life as a result of that. And after he died, I was already definitely on this path before, but nothing. solidified all of it to me more than the things that happened after he passed away that I have done everything in my power to convince myself I'm losing my mind because there's been so many things that have happened that I could never make up that I don't even think if I had all the money in the world I could have like paid someone somebody to do to make it happen. And to me it's just like without a doubt there's been too many things since he died. And I know that the Bible doesn't say a whole lot about suicide. But I have a pretty hard time believing that somebody who

just unfortunately was really plagued with a lot of darkness when he was really vulnerable, that he wouldn't be welcomed with open arms. I really have a hard time believing that. So yeah, God is good. I don't know. I was going to say Christ is king, but then I might turn out like Candace Owens and everybody will hate me, so I'm not going to do that. Well, you know, my thoughts on this, you know, because I am kind of, now you got my curiosity. peak, you know, on the strange things. When I came back from Ottawa, and I've told the story on and off, you know, like, if you've been listening a long time, you've heard lots of this.

But regardless, somebody said to me, what happened in Ottawa? And I was like, you know, I got four things you can pull on and you just tell me where, you know, stress, lack of sleep, spiritual, or drugs and alcohol. Because you don't know this about me, but, you know, I went to Ottawa and had an experience that open my eyes to a lot of stuff. And when I came home, I was a bit of shell of myself. Anyways, this person goes, Seth goes, well, we all know it's spiritual, so let's get to it. I'm like, okay, why does everybody know it's spiritual?

He's like, then we started talking about it. So why don't people talk about this? It's like, oh, they'll deem you crazy. And I'm like, they deem me crazy for COVID, right? Like, I mean, what are we talking about here? Let's get to the real stuff. Because real stuff actually matters. And if you think we're crazy by now, you, to understand.

out a long time ago. That's true. And that's fine. But like, you know, Christ is king. If that gets you de-platform, I think that shows what the other side's doing more than what you're doing. So to me, I'm all here for it. I'm glad I asked because I was like, I'm like, hmm, this lady's checking off a lot of boxes.

I wonder if she checks off the most important one, which I would have never said four years ago, right? That's been my journey. So, you know, I appreciate you sharing. And if you want to get into the strange, we can swap strange stories believe me i got my fair share too we'll have to do that i do have to hang up on you soon here mostly because i have to go to the bathroom and my dogs whining at the door um but honestly i would i would absolutely love to get into the strange with you so um we will we will

absolutely have to have to there you go that that is the the nicest way for a guest to exit the show folks i i would totally love to but i'm about to pee myself and I need to run. Jasmine, thanks for doing this. Of course. Thank you so much. Till next time.