Shaun Newman Podcast - #831 - Jim Sinclair & Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Jim Sinclair spent 33 years in the Canadian military. He’s a former member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas. Chuck Prodonick spent 20+ years in the Canadian military. He is a retired sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas. Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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The first spent 33 years in the Canadian military, the second 20-plus years. Both are former members of the Princess Patricia's Canadian and light infantry and both served in four tours overseas. I'm talking Jim Sinclair and Chuck Prodnick. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast.

I'm joined by Jamie Sinclair and Chuck Pradnick. Thanks, boys, for making the trip. Anytime, Sean. Anything for you, brother. Yeah, well, it's great to see you, boys. Yeah, good to be seen. Yeah, it's been a minute since we've all been together, yeah. Okay, just don't take this the wrong way.

But sometimes I haven't seen somebody a long time. They're like, hey, how are you doing? I haven't seen you a long time. I'm like, yeah, just got out of jail. And they're like, what? No, no, I didn't. It's believable. It's funny.

With you, anything's believable. Everyone's like, is Jamie pulling my leg here? Yeah. You wrote notes. What do you got? I'm not telling you right now. You're not telling me right now. We're going to go through the, I'm going to bring these up as we're talking because I got a little

fucking worked up on my way up here. So as I'm driving, I'm trying to fucking jot things down. Don't look at my notes. When I'm copying your homework, yeah, I'll copy it. Jesus. It's like we're back. fucking training in battle school

and trying to fucking copy off my test everybody tried to copy his work yeah hey top candy motherfucker of course you were trying to copy

yeah there's a few stories from there but I'm not going to mention them they were good can I just say I'm happy you're not busting my balls about not drinking a beer right now

hey listen we live in a free world you do whatever it was a free world a year ago when you walked in here and you were all upset and you caused quite the scene you go back

because you took a break during harvest or after harvest after harvest is when you celebrate okay back fine don't drink after new year's that's great but you don't go through dry October that's the stupidest fucking thing I heard of it was probably some Chinaman that invented it and you're fucking following suit okay just like this is I had a beer with them about in a half an hour so I got to write this down on my notes about a half hour ago we went to wherever it was and I had. It was the first one I've had since Christmas, I think.

It tastes better than this one. He instantly turned into Frank the tank. He's like, it tastes so good once it touches your lips. Clipping tables. I'll have one of those after, yeah. Are those cold? Yeah. And they're literally from when you were here last.

So I'm probably the biggest great Western supporter in Saskatchewan. And, uh, yeah, thanks for. Well, a great Western's listening, you know. You know what? I know there's, I know some of their guys that are coming up with the new beer can, the new beer for the Royal General Rifles. You got a beer coming up for the rifles? Yes, yes, we do. And I'm trying to talk them into doing like a Remembrance Day beer can, a Vimy Ridge beer can.

So they bring it out like and, you know, for June 6th. They bring it out for like a month. Then Vimy Ridge do that in April. Right. And then as like a like, um, You know, the Battle of the Rhine or something, like, just do a battle like every, every couple of, like, three times a year. It'd be fucking cool. Mm-hmm.

That's a great idea. And, hey, what, what, what beer company in Canada is doing that shit, right? No. No, we're putting Dylan Mulvaney for sure, or some version of it on. So, funny thing about booze, remember everybody's like, oh, let's not buy American booze? Yeah. Right? and everybody was still drinking Molson products

because they think it's a Canadian company. But then... But hey, let me finish my rent. That company is owned by Coors. So all the fucking, all the booze people down the States would have been phoning the Coors Company up going, hey, if they don't start buying our booze,

I want you to lay off all Molson employees across the country until they start fucking buying our booze again. And guess what? Within like how long did that take where people started buying the American booze again. Like all the liquor stores near where I am, nobody pulled nothing from the shelves. No, no, they just stopped buying it.

I don't think they were allowed to buy it. No, no, they could have. But they, because each province is separate with what they want to buy. The government can't say to you stop buying American booze. Interesting. Oh, maybe I didn't realize that. Because I was in a bunch of, I haven't had a drink now in,

how many days is it, folks? It's over 100 anyways. Um, and so, but me and twos when I was in Air Drie, me and him ended up, uh, while we're in Calgary, actually, um, we ended up going to one of the stores. And the guy showed us what they had for American, but I thought here in Alberta, they couldn't buy any American products. The same is with the, when the, the, the Russian Ukraine stuff, the never was like, get that Russian alcohol off the shelves. Nobody pulled it on any shelf I ever saw. I was still buying Russian vodka for my Caesars. Like, give me a break. Right from Chernobyl.

not but in Ukraine but uh anyway they occupy chanola first that's a part that's they came in from the north got it that and the other power plant power plant there um but anyway so i don't want Ontario they made a big play of it because old Dougie ford's a smart man that guy's a retard yeah big muppett his brother was the smart one he did meth but the the they're pulling booze like they're fighting a war like they're they're doing all this stuff in Ontario like they're really making a difference and they got their elbows all over the place of probably and this is the guy that told his own party don't don't endorse polyp polyev like are you kidding me like an Alberta or sorry an Ontario conservative is basically

an Alberta liberal there's he's he's probably close to NDP with the stuff that he does and and what what a shitty what a shitty guy like to do a snap election saying get another four years and hey when When Trudeau first went down to see Trump after he was elected, he knew that Trump was going to be our number one enemy. And remember they had that big conference, all the liberals met somewhere in Ottawa, and the TV cameras were looking into the windows watching their meeting. I guarantee you, they're war gaming. Okay, we've got to make Trump our number one enemy so we can fuck and do the old smoke and mirrors of the Canadians. like when Trump put on the tariffs throughout the world on on everybody that has a tariff on them the only two countries that got on 90 or like the 90 day or 30 that didn't get that didn't get the

pause the 90 day pause was canada and China yeah because we fucking counter tariff them guys and then we got two premieres going where's our 90 day reprieve well you fucking counter tariff the guy that's tariff that wants all the tariffs go away so yeah we didn't get the 90 days like how fucking stupid can you be horribly stupid and the problem with our fucking government is

is as the Canadian people were all up in arms about what Trump's doing how about the tariffs Ottawa's been putting on us since the carbon taxes and we didn't say fucking shit or the Chinese tariffs that are on everything we have here like China just upped our tariffs like what by 25

percent a few weeks ago yeah and and nobody said a word ought to put that tariff on China for ebs the eb companies are going out of business in Ontario mm-hmm and now China's got a tariff on Saskatchewan potash in or not potash canola mm-hmm well fuck nobody's saying nothing about no the farm no no because there half them are all bought by China right now look at car well yeah it's it's this is the guy who's already said we're not going to get no any more pipelines from the west Meanwhile, his company, which is all invested in oil and all over the world is making money hand over fist.

Yeah. That he's like this is they talk about Trump being a businessman in any conflicts of interest. Look, you can love or hate Trump people. You don't, there's no middle ground with the guy. Right. Um, it. At least he, well, maybe he wasn't completely open, but he didn't make money as the president. He sure shit didn't make money in the intervening four years when they went after everything he owned.

But our sitting prime minister right now, he's making money hand over 50. He doesn't pay a tax dollar in Canada. His family doesn't live in Canada. I tell you what, I want to get Pelosi to do all my stocks for me. Oh, yeah. Because she did pretty well. Her one-eyed McCain there. He's pretty good too.

What's his name, Dan Crenshaw, the old former Navy seal there. He's pretty good at liquidity too with the old stock market down there. Look at him. And he was, he's basically John McCain. with the younger version of it. Oh, really? Hey, can I back this whole train up? Okay, of course.

So I was listening to your podcast that you did without me. For whatever reason, I didn't get the invite. That's fine. Because I texted Chuck. Yeah, I get it. At like 9 o'clock at night, and he lives two hours away. I'm just fucking with you. That's good.

Just calm down. And when I text you, you need a week advance. It can't be in the morning because you like to sleep in or whatever it is you do in the mornings. So we got to make it in the afternoon. We got to have a fresh case of beer. We got to do all these things. All these things.

I got to make sure that we're on the same time. Because I'm either an hour late or an hour early or whatever. But anyway, so I was listening to it. And great podcast, by the way. But the two things that you're at, that you're wondering what I was going to say or ask. So when we're talking about values, I was taught we were talking about, this is four years ago, that from Manitoba, right to BC and all the Arctic, that we have similar. values and core ethics that we all believe in. And if we could become our own nation and,

and, you know, looking forward to where we are now, if we could become our own nation, we'd be able to rewrite our values to reflect how we want to live in Western Canada. That's what we were talking about then. And now that we're, you know, fuck, I pray to God that we never separate. But Daniel Smith sent those, you know, 25 points that she wants to address within six months. If Mo could fucking do something similar and write like constitutionally rip it open and let's

fucking change these issues within six months or you know fucking Western Canada's going to start moving away from Canada that might be the way to the rip open that constitution and get it fucking fixed. You need seven

provinces to agree to that isn't it? Well but here's here's the thing and this is reality. So the laws that are written are written by lawyers and such. Those same laws were in effect when 3% of the population started in Boston Tea Party. So 3% of the people that lived in the United States as colonials were the ones that created the United States of America that we know now. So you could have all the laws saying you need whatever numbers. You push a people far enough and hard enough.

agree with that there's going to be yeah there'll be a tipping point where the law constitutionally isn't going to need to be to apply it's and i know i think i think i'm not trying to speak for you here but i think you would much prefer Canada remain as a whole i don't think i i don't think it i know it now this last few months especially the last few years there are parts of the of canada that don't hold Western values. They don't hold the same values that we do. They're not, they just don't. I'm not going to get into every single fabric of why.

We just don't think the same. We don't view things the same. They're perfectly fine to look into our wallet every chance they can and tell us how we can fill that wallet up every time. But that's why we had that conversation four years ago before like we are, we are now. We are. It's because like I know the values of each side of the nation.

And that's how that got up, got brought up. I hope that we do separate out. If we become the 51st state, I hope we leave the rest of Canada behind. Because if we become all 51st state under the, under the law. They won't. They don't want us. Every American I talk to about this topic says, no, no, no, no, no. We would take Alberta, maybe Saskatchewan.

The rest of your country is like one big California. They would be idiotic not to take Saskatchewan. Yeah. Here's the thing, no, guys. Why would you want to be the 50 first state? 1A2A. Fuck that. You can't give up what we stand, what's under our feet and what's our future for our children.

We have no future. No, no. There's no future. Yes, we have a future. If we separate and do it on our own. If we do it on our own, we have a better future. We have the best future. And we should be smart enough as Canadians to have somebody talking with Denmark at the same time

because there's 44,000 people that live there. Greenland? Or sorry, Greenland. Greenland and West. whatever we would become as a country. Like the money to be made. We become a protected or whatever Puerto Rico is if we went under them. Yeah.

No, you could, you know, basically our great, great grandchildren will be, you know, well, the best society, the best country, the richest country. Highest standard of living. Highest standard of living. And if we recreate our nation, like we recreate, we recreate everything. And the military in this nation with, let's say there's 25 or 20 million people in Western Canada at that time, you're going to have the best fighting force army out of the whole world because I would campaign for an Israeli style setup. Like where everybody's involved in the military, it doesn't matter what age you're at.

You know, there's a job free. You train once or twice a year. Yeah. You got an 80 to 90,000 to $90,000. any 80 to 90,000 regular force soldiers that are highly trained. And we only protect what's inside of Canada. Yeah. We don't go to do UN missions anywhere.

We don't do any of that bullshit. We focus on Canada only. Yeah. Well, new Canada. New Canada. Western, whatever we're going to call ourselves. I would take that over the 51st option. However, to separate out from what has become the rest of Canada,

I will take 50 first state and a heartbeat. The 50 first option is. is what we use as a lever to make Canada open up the Constitution. Wasn't it Peterson about a couple months ago? I think we talked with this last time I was here. He made the argument for why Canada actually has to come to the board and provide some reason for Alberta to stay at this point. And so far all we hear is the attack.

Like Carney literally attacked Daniel Smith, what, a week or so ago in his little shitty little backhanded conference? Comment. Yeah, his comment. He's openly gone back on everything he said about oil already, all of it. I mean, we all knew he would. Anybody that's had anything to read about anything the guy said before, he's going to keep 80% of it all in the ground.

He's huge on this. Like, we should be an economic powerhouse in every regard. We should be, we could, Poland is the same population as Canada roughly. Yeah. And they, they are standing up. They're over 150,000 men in their regular standing army. and they're doubling that, like physically doubling that. Now they have a different threat level where they are obviously.

But population-wise, this is achievable. And they have good gear. Like great gear. What do we have, dude. So the thing is a large standing army is very costly. Yeah. That's why the Israelis use a smaller standing army, but they have their whole nation involved in the army.

And the thing about that is when you have everybody working together that's in the military, we'd be working with like Easterners or vice versa. It brings us together, right? And now the whole nation is working together like that, even if Canada ever did that in the future. Now the government can't drive a wedge in between us because we know people in the Maritimes and we know people in Quebec and they know us.

And it's in our best interest. If we all could one day get to that, we're weak. Don't you think that in 14 days, 13 days when this releases, we're going to find out if the Easterers go that way. Because if they vote in Carney, we can love Canada. I don't know how you save it at this point because they're pretty much making a statement. Because, I mean, it's everything I watch, and I could be wrong. Like, to me, I'm almost tired of talking about it.

Because I'm just like, you talk to one person. Oh, it looks like there's maybe a shot conservatives. are going to win, talk to the next person, nope, it's foregone conclusion, liberals are winning, and back up forth, back forth this goes. But the one thing that it feels like to me, and people are so definite, if they voting, Carney, the West is out. It's like, well, they've been saying that for forever, right? We're starting, I'm learning real fast, politics and things move slow. Sentiment for moving out of this country is going to grow exponentially if that happens. But if, on the 28th, Carney is elected, I don't think people are

fighting to save Canada anymore from the West. I think they're trying to get out. Yeah, I'm, I have that same, like, just from the people I know in Saskatchew and that, you know, there's, there's people like myself that want to keep the country together. And then there's people that, that don't want it together. And if it goes the, if we go separately, you know, obviously I'm going to go along with that, you know, because I've always said that Canada is not Ottawa. Canada's the people, right?

And when I was working with the Army at one point during COVID, I had to tell the guys I was working with, I was like, if the Army wants me to do one thing and it's go against the people, I'm letting you know right now, I'm never going to go against the people in this country. Like, this is my line in the sand, and I will not cross it. And, yeah, no, like, it's the people that make this country,

and that's why we want the war to fight. It wasn't for somebody in Ottawa, while because it was something like keeping the money out of the Taliban's hands for funding terrorism or letting kids have the ability to go to school, right? Like it's for those reasons. And it's worth fighting for. And I'd scares the living fuck out of me because Chuck's seen it. And I've seen it how the government manipulates certain wording in the,

in the news and such and you hear it from all of our medias and and trump's a bad guy but he's not the fucking government's using trump to deflect what they've done to us in the last 10 years and the canadian people i love them but they're not fucking seeing through the smoke and mirrors that the government has in front of them no when really east anyway when really it's it's our own fucking government that has put us in these conditions yeah not building pipelines not fucking when Trudeau said he was going to put 10,000 people on the border to stop the tariffs. He never put

nobody down there. No. Fucking. He rented two helicopters. And tightening up our border security so we could stop the fent and all coming in. Now we're starting to catch some of it, but we're not closing down those ports in BC where that shit comes in unchecked. Like they're still not doing everything the Americans

want us to. That's why we have the tariffs on us. It's that fucking simple. The tariffs for the, uh, aluminum and all the other stuff is because we put counter tariffs on them after they tariffed us. So it's our own doing. Yeah. But the people don't see that.

And it's Ottawa to blame for everything. And it would be an easy election if we could just fucking change the narrative and stop talking about Trump and start talking about Ottawa. And it might not be too late. Like if people start drilling down to why we're in these tariffs and how we get out of them and who's to really to blame. and why isn't Ottawa putting pressure on China

to lift the tariffs on our canola right before we seed? We could actually start getting some traction for the conservatives to potentially win this collection. I still think the conservatives are going to win. I don't know if it's a majority, but I do think that they will win.

I mean, you just had a rally in Emmington that was the largest federal election rally, I think in Canadian history, of 15,000 people at that rally. And Emmington's a socialist shithole. Like it's, you know, it votes

NDP at every other level. But you, you go, and maybe it was all rural folks that came out to it, I don't know. But I know there, actually, I know there's a lot of folks that live in Emmington that went to it too. I know a lot of people that went to it. But that's a massive rally in a socialist shithole to have, to have.

The thing is, like any money that that people were to send money into the, to the PCs for for this last little bit. I don't think it could actually be legally used because they're only allowed to spend so much money on their on their campaigning. So how the liberals get around it is they have they have people that work outside of their campaign that do you know big events and they spend money that that they're allowed to legally spend.

Actually there's no budget on what they could spend outside of the campaign. And hopefully the fuck we got some. smart people that are doing this down in Toronto. Because if we could get the votes in Toronto and in the Maritimes to swing our way, because we need a, we need a, we can't have a coalition government that the end or the, the, the conservatives have to win like a majority so that we can actually do something.

Yeah. And I shit on the east heavily and for good reason, but there are good people obviously in every province. Great people in Toronto. There's, there's the least, the least one, you know, there are good people in, I don't know about Ottawa, because I'll tell you what, they, every time the, the whiff of a honk comes near them, there's, they got the fucking, the jitters. Well, you got to remember, everybody in Ottawa works for the fucking government. But they sure don't mind the homoesoles out there doing what they're doing every day. Oh my God.

It, I mean, you couldn't hear a honk without fucking wetting themselves, but these guys out there screaming death to everybody. Yeah. burning down Jewish coffee shops and threatening cops. And Otto was pretty good with that, you know. Who are these people? Beating people up in the streets? That's fucking ridiculous. It's, this is, this, you talk about saving the country, and I appreciate that,

and I respect that, and I, I get it. This is not the country you and I went to war for. It's not this country anymore. No, I totally agree with it, Chuck. And I, if there is any motivating factor for me at all in why I want to do what I want to do or see the west go the way I wanted to see is I was able to have a future you were able to have a future as a young guy you saw are you our kids do not not realistically they'll never own a home my kids ain't poor make gonna own a home

like when I I've said this before on here when I went house shop in this spring here in the Edmonton area holy shit you know good luck I was in a situation where I finangled some stuff if you're not able to finangle some stuff good luck my kids aren't going to be able to do it it just it's they don't there's no future there's just no future I I can't I can't I can't see the benefits of being in an American state like you're only a couple elections away from them bringing in another Biden or Hillary or whoever you're not wrong but we're stuck in the ever looped cycle of a Biden Hillary right now well but worse push is

going to come to shove and And hopefully calmerheads prevail and and and there is somebody that'll listen to the West not in Easter isn't well and if they don't then there's you know that it's just the East is like that retarded drug addict in every family that shows up at every reunion or function or at your doorstep and says I need money I got in a little bit of trouble well I don't want that you don't want that money or I don't want you to get the money that way you know they're that they're that that they're just the people that want to leech. That's just how I view them now. I know it's probably not right, but that's

how it feels. And then everything from them is, well, we hate Albertans. They're all redneck losers, but you can't separate. No, no, no, no, you can't leave. Well, if we leave, they go broke. They'd be broke. The rest of Canada would be in default years ago if we stopped funding them. Don't you, well, I don't know. Don't you just think like a place like Quebec would just start to tap into its natural resources if we disappeared? They could, but will they? No. Don't you think the East would do the same? The East is in the predicament they are

because they don't tap into it. Because they were told by the government, you can't fish this, you can't drill that, you can't do this. But we're going to give you all this money. Look at the heat pump bullshit that we, there's like what,

that was Carney pushing that shit. Yeah, there's 3% of the population in this country that use, what was it, oil heating stuff. Well, they made all these amendments

so that those, they could do everything different out there and not get car, carbon tax on everything or get the special subsidies to put this in your house. 3% of the bloody population, but we'll buy your vote with this billions of dollars later. Here in Alberta, no, we don't get shit. But we get to fund it all. You get to pay for it all.

You get told how shitty we are. Well, if I'm going to get told how shitty I'm, believe me, I'm going to be shitty. I'm not looking for, not looking for anybody's pat in the back. You want to make it so I'm shitty? I'll be shitty. Getting back to Carney being linked in with, like the heat pumps like his his company was the one that bought into that now they're buying into modular homes so well they're they're not they're not buying in they're already bought in yeah so

he's so deeply invested with china it's fucking mind-boggling like and and the amount of influence in what china can actually do in canada it's it's insane like that police officer just got kicked out. They replaced them with another one. Yeah, but but this is what I'm getting at. So if you got Chinese police officers in Toronto that are working in Chinese areas and they're actually working for the Chinese government and the CCP and and manipulating what's going on there, uh, that's crazy. But here's the craziest fucking thing. And I don't know why nobody's talking about this. So at what time can an embassy in a sovereign nation put out a bounty. on somebody's fucking head and have thugs go fucking kidnapped person in in a sovereign nation

bring them to the embassy the embassy now pays for the bounty and then fucking like gets the guy on a plane and flies them back to china and how many other people has this happened to like this isn't this isn't a one-off no so so why to fuck aren't the canadian people screaming at the top of their lungs to have all the embassies in fucking Canada removed other country because this is how they are operating. Because it was a two-minute blip and most people look at it and they go,

yeah, but they all talked about the police officer. Believe me, I know. But nobody's talking about the embassies and how they're operating within our country. Because Trump. Because Trump. That's what they focus back fire to. Because Trump. But don't you think, fucking...

You and I get it and Sean gets it. But don't you think we should talk more about this and make it a fucking... It should be the biggest wedge or one of the biggest wedge issues there are, but it gets blazed over in a quick 24-hour news cycle because Trump. Trump did that.

That's fucking scary. That this is actually happening within our borders. And for how many years, who knows? Like, this is, that's the scariest part of this whole fucking deal. Is how China can operate without, like, any kind of penalties against the Canadian people and do this to Chinese, people that are fleeing China like Chinese people are not the issue that they're great people it's the Chinese fucking government that's the problem and they shouldn't be able to fuck and do

this kind of shit within a sovereign nation but they can when they've bought off or paid for or subsidized so many of our politicians it's the same reason that the liberal government won't release that 11 list well I'm sure it's bigger than 11 but uh why won't they release that list it'd be a simple thing to do release it I don't care if they're conservative There's a few conservatives on there. Oh, guarantee. I don't want some shitty bought and paid for as well, they're all kind of bought and paid for, but even more bought and paid for by a foreign power.

That's another thing. If Canada ever did decide to, okay, let's fucking, let's go on our own and create our own system. First fucking thing you do is you get rid of politicians. No, I'm serious. Like, because politicians are fucking people that some of them have a great heart and they want to do the right fucking thing. things. You need a politician or you need a person in power that number one is is is kind of appointed by their people. Right. And they've got the right like skill set to make your region better. And politics has got to fucking like actually disappear from your country because that's when

everything goes the wrong fucking direction. So common sense. How many, How many genders we got? Two. Fucking, you don't have a politician whiffering and wafering and coming up with excuses. It's like, yeah,

there's fucking two. Forget about the tampons and the men's bathrooms. Okay, what do we need for an army? I don't know. Let's talk to a fucking army guy. What's the best way to set up an army? All right, let's look at different armies

throughout the world and see who's got the best one. All right, let's fucking do it. Like, politicians talk, that's why Canada's famous for dragging their fucking feet on how to do shit. and fucking making it so hard to get shit done now because everybody just wants to fucking talk about it.

Well, when we went to fucking Vimey Ridge with Curry, they didn't have fucking months or years to talk about it. They fucking came up with a plan. They all bought in. They fucking executed and they were successful. And that's what we got to get back to is like that type of a system. It has to be small. And that's why I think the West would be successful

is we get the government small again. None of these stupid committees and boards and we just, we, we paralyse ourselves with this fucking overanalysis. It's just, it, there's, we are fundamentally broken at, at, at, at the federal level. I mean, not just boards, but fucking special on-boys and, uh, people,

special interest groups, special intergroup and, uh, who are the other people, consultants, hiring fucking consultants to do, this and do that like we see carnie time and money carnie's got it figured out though he's not even the real p m and he's already doing all these oices getting the gg to sign off on them all he's he's not been elected to nothing he's been elected by nobody and he's getting away with this stuff and that's like a very small headline in the news all the time like you can't do we're in an election cycle you're not technically allowed to do fuck all that's why the yanks won't talk to us until after this

election which is smart on their part you know it's more smarter than And they've been pretty quiet. They don't want to say too much shit because every time they say something, then it gives liberals ammo to fucking fight us. Yeah. But what scares me, though, too, is it's in the Americans' best interest if we did separate because then they could try and influence, you know, our country, right? Like, it's, and they've done that to every fucking country I've ever worked in.

Like, it's, so. So if there is, if there is a system where it's being set up by us, like vetting ourselves and being transparent and everything that's going on is fucking critical because guaranteed the fucking tri-walls will be fucking in the back of a truck full of cash you know fucking supporting who they want to win. You know, it's,

things could get really fucking crazy if all of a sudden we do go that direction. And corruption, money just makes people fucking change. So it'd have to be pretty fucking tight on security. and obviously transparency. Well, transparency, right? Being able to shine a light on. And not just you, but anybody in your family around you as well.

Because they'll pay somebody that's your 16th uncle removed, but you're really getting the money, right? Yeah, well, I agree. To me, you know, like when it comes to criminals, you need to put them away so you don't want to go there. And if you're a politician, pay them well. but also make sure they realize that there's going to be no shenanigans. Because, I mean, you look at the states.

They've got the great system, and yet they have the politicians who are just absolutely, everybody can just see it. It's like they're rich. And fucking jail time. Look at our politicians, the same thing. And jail time. Well, that one guy, the fucking, who's the guy that had the mic, not the, he stole like fucking $16 million and he said it was the other guy with the same name in his company.

What was his name? Randy Bissino. Yeah. The other Randy. Oh, the other Randy. Like, what do you get a $250 fine or some fucking thing?

I don't even think you got a $250 fine. Yeah. Or they just read his name out in. Randy's strong eagle, man. Yes, we all recall that. I was sad when he finally decided to retire.

I was hoping he would hang on for like another 10 years. Oh, I know. Oh, the other Randy was like one of my favorite times. Are you kidding me? He's going to bring him back in. He brought in butts.

The other Randy was like, with me and Tuesday. That was like, one of my favorite things of the mashup show up. It's like, What did the other Randy do this week? Because you know he's in the headlines. And the whole country knows that this is all bullshit.

And nothing happened because he's a liberal. The conservative $16 orange juice gets pillared and, you know, run under it. It's ridiculous. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. The liberals at the, at the Polly of camp rally the other day were caught openly planting those buttons to stop the steel, you know, very Trumpian things on these buttons. And they bragged about it in a bar right after the event and a CBC. Of all things, a CBC reporter overheard them, knew who they were as liberal staffers from the war room and was like, did you guys, did you just say what you said?

And he's like, oh, yeah, he's bragging on it. And he's like, she's like, oh, I'm doing an article about this. And then he started denying it. So she got a hold of some more people who were like, yeah, we did that. Like, like, this is the, this is the, this is the pretty shady shit. This is the liberal mindset, right? Like, look at the signs. You never see a liberal or NDP yard sign knocked over.

destroyed, vandalized, but you're not going to see barely a conservative one out there that isn't knocked over, vandalized, stolen, whatever the hell of the case is. They're just shitty. They're just shitty humans. They just, they're moral compass is like, and believe me, I'm not one to preach about a moral compass. I'm not the, that human. I'm not a boy scout, but good Lord, these people are just. I tell you something about the other side. Okay, so, uh, Evan Bray went on holidays and he had this, uh, Mara Cherry, I think her name is, she came in and she's like hardcore, NDP or liberal. So, like, everybody listens to that show. Like, 90% of them are pretty stout conservatives.

And they had to listen to her talk. And it's like, fuck. Like, at one point, I'm like, okay, I can't listen to this shit anymore. And then I caught myself. I'm like, I can't do that because then I'm just as bad as like a liberal or an NDP person, not to want to listen to, like a conservative, right? so I fucking listened to her all week and so I phoned in at the end of it

I'm like hey listen you know here's my bugs and hugs and my bug was on how Ottawa can tariff us and fucking put tariffs on China but nobody says shit to Ottawa like you know that that was my big thing and my hug was like okay listen you made me fucking listen to you all week and I did it just because I can't preach one thing and do the other and you've really made me shake my head sometimes

it's on the ideals you think, but I've got to listen to them so I can understand where you're coming from, and maybe you've got some good points. And, you know, like, you've got to do that from time and time. Oh, yeah. And the other thing is, like, hey, if they do have a fucking great idea, there shouldn't be nothing wrong

with like, hey, let's embrace it, let's fucking do it. And this is in better, the best interest of Canadians. I agree with you. The only thing is, is they've had the weight of the government on their side for at least 10 years. 10 years.

Like, I mean, you know. Well, let's be honest. The fucking laws are created to make the liberals stay in power. Right. So, I mean, I look at it and I go, yeah, and do I got to listen to it? But I got to listen to it everywhere, Jamie. Yeah. Everywhere I go, you've got to listen to it.

Yeah. Like, I'm tired of listening to it. Like, just for the, can we just not for a little bit? Can I just turn on the oiler game and not see a brand new logo? When you're like, why? What's going on? What's going on that fucking ice surface the other day? That was fucking crazy.

That's crazy. Like, when's the last time you see a Ukrainian dance team out there or a Scottish Highland dance team out there? I don't know. And do they... No. The Oilers right now, with the best player on the planet, every game,

it's the land rights, which is like, okay, fine, okay, but then it's the dance. It's like it's just become one big woke thing. It's just everything is about everything. everything else other than hockey correct yeah like did they have made them up for the humbled bus crash did you a tribute to those guys i don't know i would think they did fuck i'd hope so i would hope so too i don't want to crap on them for that one because i feel like everybody

when the humble bus crash happened i feel like every nchel team and honestly every canadian for that matter um rallied together for that right so like i don't want to crap on them not knowing for sure but the last month it's unwatchable it's been almost on watchable so getting back to that humble i literally i literally have to watch the period and then i got to turn it off yeah and then i just got to come back yes so here's here's a beautiful thing about the humble bus crash and if there's anything beautiful uh it's it's how they've like created this whole thing on how people look at organ donation like how many people have been saved by organ donations since since since that. The other thing is a good friend of mine, Nathan, I'm sure he listens to you all the time.

Anyways, shout out to this guy. So he was one of the first responders that actually showed up and was there in a ditch helping people with, you know, their last minutes of life. And he knew these kids. He used to drive the bus for him and he knew the trainer. And like, so he was involved in all that. He's gone through a rough go with, you know, with our, what he called, what he called? workers compensation and shit through Saskatchewan and and like workers compensation like how our laws are written

is more or less like they weren't written for like a situation like that they're written for like oh you hurt your back okay well we'll try and fix you over time but when you have a large group of people that were involved and you know they're just falling through the cracks all the mental health that comes along with it I'm hoping our, I'm hoping Nathan helps change our laws within the workers' compensation. So it covers people like him so that in the future, you've got the right support staff

and the systems that take care of people that go through a traumatic event like that. And it happened once earlier around Swift Current with the Swift Current bus team. They had an accident and the first responders showed up. I'm sure they didn't have the mental help that they needed after that. So he's been fighting it for quite a long time. I hope he carries on with it because it's... I'll shout out to Nathan. I feel like I know he's texted me.

I know he has. I'm just trying to recall with the last text we went back and forth with. I'm sure I know this story. No, he's just a regular guy. Just, you know, if this never happened in his life, he would have been way better off. Yeah. He's lost lots since then, but he's got good people around him.

And he's always trying to get better. and he comes down to our military roundup every year, you know, and we've kind of brought him in and made him feel like one of our own. And we gave him a battle buddy certificate there a few years ago. But yeah, he's working hard. He's trying to get better on him, you know, with all the support he's getting now. But it's going to be a long road ahead with what's going on with workers' comp. And hopefully things go good for you there, Nathan.

Have a good one, brother. Cheers to him. And to all those kids and what the what they did for supporting people and need of organs. Saving lives. It's amazing. Yeah. Well, there's hopefully, you know, hopefully some good came out of a horrible, horrible tragedy. You know, it affected everybody's life that was close to it.

And as a country, too, you saw it. Like it was one of those few galvanizing moments. where everybody put aside their differences. Oh, for sure. And you couldn't drive down a street with a hockey sticks in the front. I still got hockey sticks at my gate getting into my farm. Yeah. In fact, we have a memorial forest around the farm.

And it's run by the Lions Club. Shout out to Ken Peters that started that. Great thing. There's two of them, one in Ontario. You're going to choose everybody. You know, no. But it's Saskatchewan. Anyways, we planted a tree for all those kids, too.

and it's in our forest and it's yeah it's beautiful yeah they touch a lot of people and it's a good group of people that still run that's full who do you think's going to win the election which party

well I don't want to say it because I might fucking help them somehow through so you think Carney's going to win oh it's fucking here's the problem okay Easter's coming that's when all our early polling is right and that's when people go in early to vote people have already been early voting yet but yeah

the big early voting is then yeah yeah well how many Christians are going to be at these voting stations so it just leaves like loopholes open for if there's going to be any corruption or anything going on it's going to be when there's not enough volunteers there to watch what's happening i actually know a few people who are elections volunteers but you don't know them in toronto i don't know them in That's where the problem's going to be. The West is going to be all blue. Yeah. It's the places like Toronto and the Maritimes where there's any shenanigans, it's going to be down there.

They don't have to rig anything out west. I still think probably have a win. Well, I hope you're right. Whether it's a majority or not, I don't, I think the support, I don't, the polls are the polls. I don't give a shit about the polls necessarily. I think just based on rally size, enthusiasm, I'm hoping for me, but it might only be a minority government. I don't know.

And if he does win, it's not like I think he magically fixes everything either. It's not like I think, well, oh, fuck, we're good now. But that's why I'm saying, uh, what Daniel Smith did with her 10 or 20 points that she wants looked at. Yeah. If Saskatchewan did that, Manitoba did that and we get the, and that's, that's coming from the people. Mm-hmm.

And he then they would have to. She's been the most savvy politician in the last six months by nobody's guaranteed. Nobody could touch her as far as how politically skilled and savvy she's been. She's been ahead of it the whole time and then taking the heat for it the whole time by these fucking Muppets out east like all of them. And then Doug Ford just wants to get his elbows up and burgers down range. And she's the one actually fighting actually fight.

They all get mad when you go talk to the bad guy. Well, you don't get nothing unless you go talk to the bad guy. Yeah. It's like dealing with Putin. Do you think you're going to get anywhere by ignoring the bad guy in the room? If you don't go deal with it. But, hey, back to the elections. Can come down.

We have already talked about that 10 times, 10 times now. But how do we make sure that we got enough people down there in the writing's account that they have, like, is there enough volunteers? They're going to make sure that it's all counted correctly. and there's no shenanity. That's what worries me, right? And I'm, pray to God, I'm wrong. But if something bad was going to happen, I agree with you.

It'd be at those times. It's going to be at those times, yeah. Because the vote is already, the election's already done by the time we, I mean, cast a vote out here. Like, by the time they counter vote, it's already decided. Yeah, and we're, everything out here

is going to be, it's going to be blue. We're going to be blue, blue and blue through what the rest of the country does. I, you know, I talked to family on the phone a couple weeks ago. about about the election and uh and they're conservative people but they like well polyev didn't get his didn't get his security clearance we just don't know that's smoking mirrors and i'm like oh my fucking god turn off the news just turn it off just well explain to me well let me let me explain it to you

like you're vaccinated here here's the fucking the thing about his this this you know security clearance so i explain it to them you know and i'm being a little hard right now because it's just I'm frustrated beyond all belief that people still buy into this nausea and it's like well we're probably still going to vote for it probably probably has anybody's life in this country besides politicians gotten better in this country over 10 years mind sure shit hasn't what what like in the last four years the politicians have given themselves like white the raises like uh what what what what are they up to now like what what was the last Me and two's just talked about this.

Was it six raises over the course of four years? No, four to ten years. I can't remember how many raises it is. But me and two's talked about this. That's sad of me that I can't just pull that up. Jamie. Yeah, we need a Jamie. When we go for a ride, you'll get to see maybe we'll have a Jamie soon enough.

That would be super cool. Now, hey, listen, getting back to that, I gave you a suggestion. Yeah, you did. Are you taking the fucking wheels off the chairs? So they don't, and they don't spin. I already told you that we're going to have a spinny, wheelie chair just for when Jamie comes. And we're going to pull it down from the rafters. Good.

Put it down, just so Jamie can have a freak out when he comes to the new studio. Good. He's been complaining about these wheelchairs and the fact they spin for, I don't know, every year I've known you. Formal dining chair or something? Four years. I want like a, and I want to, can you smoke cigars in there? Yeah, we're going to have a seat. We're going to have a cigar yet.

All right. 100%. And we'll be able to shoot out the windows. Not through the glass. Like open the door. Open the door. And blow some, well, we'll see. We'll see what you think.

All right. All right. I'm liking this. I'm liking this. Chuck doesn't mean when we do this. You can be wearing a speedo and a t-shirt. Fucking thinking that that's cool. You don't tell me what to do.

You don't tell me what to do. Fucking pants on, motherfucker. I hope with everything in me that this goes our way at this election point, but I agree that there's going to be some shenanigans. They're already pulling shenanigans. I just hope that it's too big to rig, and I hate that slogan or saying or pitch or whatever it is, but if it's not too big to rig, we're in real danger of, you know, the 2020 type stuff where they bring in 3 a.m. ballots and start dumping them.

How many do we need? Well, and the busloads of fucking people that come in. that aren't even from that. They're already famous for that. They're already famous for that. Yeah. That's what was it like 16 year olds they were driving around last time? And the problem was the judge wouldn't reopen that ballot to or that that area to be recounted.

Cause you, you know, fuck like it's that's the problem. If they could stop it before it gets to that. Mm-hmm. Like if they have the enough volunteers that are there and everybody's watching what's going on. Well, you saw what I mean in the states. It was pretty extreme, but I don't think it's out of the, realm here at the I forget it was maybe it was Chicago or they were doing I forget which voting center it was but some of the volunteers are like no this is all wrong and the

other ones started putting up plywood on the glass and keeping those ones out yeah and that's when the dump started it's like this is literally being pulling pulling shit out from underneath the day and now we're we're we're I'm not saying that that's I'm not trying to mega this into the same thing here but what you're saying is true if anybody's going to pull some shenanigans it's going to be in deep red Toronto somewhere where they're, you know, who knows? Well, you've got to go to where it's close enough. Yeah, where it's close enough.

Right? There are some close races in Toronto. Oh, yeah, 100%. What do you think happens if Carney can't even win his seat? Because the lady running against her, I can't remember her name. That'd be where I'd be sending my money. If I had some money to send to the Conservatives right now. He's not even campaigning in his own.

I'd send it or to somebody outside the Conservative Party that's doing something there. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to get a phone call. Can we talk to Jamie Sinclair? Like the politicians aren't listening. Like they aren't like, just wait. Did he just say he'd give us money? Yeah, we'll take it.

Oh yeah. You'll be getting a phone call. Fuck, I'd go, I'd go down there and just fucking do overwatch and make sure everything's fucking good. You have to be like registered and all that all already. Oh, I know. I'm just fucking around. Why are they taking garbage cans full into the building?

Yeah. Aren't they supposed to come out and get empty? It's funny because I'm the most nervous about this election in my entire lifetime. Oh, this is the craziest election out of all Canadian history. It has the most consequences for us. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I, once again, I wasn't, you know, like, I try to talk to people that are older than me, older than you two, because they have a more, especially if they've been around politics.

They have more of a, you know, a well to pull from, right? To be like, well, actually, this time, you know, like, it's pretty crazy. But in my lifetime, but that isn't saying much. Because, like, honestly, up until 2015, I didn't pay attention to nothing. At 2015, when Trudeau got elected, I was kind of like, oh, okay. And then in 2019, I was shocked when we didn't vote him out, like, immediately. I was like, this is bad. And then he got voted again, and then he got voted in again.

And you're like, so where I sit is I'm like, you know, this could be really bad if Cairney gets him. And the thing is, is like, you see all the things he's connected to. Like, I'm so frustrated with. with the mashup right now, not too, is just the fact that, like, all we do is rinse and repeat. We're not creating new stories. Literally the new stories are every week. They're just happening. And you're like, our government is corrupt. The liberals are the liberal mafia. And you can just either take that or not. But you watch what they're doing. They're literally just like doing

whatever they want. There's no consequences. They're taking money. They're giving themselves pay raise. They're patenting each other on the back. They're taking trips every they want. Jailing, jailing their opposition. Right. Sending money everywhere, taking bribes, working with foreign actors, like on and on it goes, you're like, and we're going to vote this in. Like, if we do, we're fucked. I'm just, like, there's no point in, like, dancing around it. At some point, you just got to be like, there's a line in the sand. East, vote them in. Fine, have Kearney. You can have them. But at that point, I'm sorry, I don't know how to be Canadian anymore. Yeah. Because it's like so evident. It's just like, this doesn't make any sense. And so you go, like,

hope they feel the same, like, gut reaction that they're there on a Sunday or on the Monday or on the Tuesday, making sure that things are on the up and up. Well, getting back to corruption, look at the states. Like, ever since Bill Clinton, he's been, like, talking to Canada, you can't be so friendly with China. After Clinton, it was Obama, right? Obama said the same thing. After him, it was Trump. First time, same thing.

After him, Biden actually said it. If Clinton had said it, and then Bush had said it, and then Obama had said it, I don't know if I trust those guys anyways. No. Well, Clinton brought China into the world market, but the thing is they can't have their northern country that borders them unsecure that friendly with a foreign adversary, which is the number one in the world. We had a Chinese army unit inside of Canada preparing to train with the

Patricia's in the Arctic and General Hillary, um, Erie. Um, air. He was the, um, CDS at the time said no fucking way. And that's the reason why we're also being persecuted by the states is because we can't be that friendly with a foreign abyss. We can't be this dumb. Well, you look at what Carney.

The first thing the liberals under Carney did when the tariff thing was roached was sent out feelers to China. Like instead of dealing with Trump. and the Americans, they went like children directly to China. It's like, ooh, we like you. And then they went to Europe, useless European Union to try and be like, well, we're going to make new partners with you and do trade with you. Nobody needs to do fucking trade with what are we going to get from Europe?

Nothing. Ain't got nothing. What are we going to get from China? Well, we're going to get terrified the death on them by everything we send to them. We need to figure it out with the states, but they didn't do that. And then he says in the same breath, while our relationship with America is over this, they were no longer,

he didn't call them no longer allies, but he damn near called them our no longer our military, greatest military ally, whatever he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, but it was just ridiculous that he, yeah, baby.

It's been a while. Holy fuck. I'm just interrupting. No, no. You can interrupt. Thank you, sir. It has been a hot, minute since I had anyone in here because we've been we're ramping up because when the

studio's done I plan on doing a whole ton in person I've already been talking a bunch of people and then of course it got delayed so I'm like it's almost poof okay so everybody who comes in the studio everybody knows this but here we are at the hour mark and I haven't passed you guys a silver coin yet that's odd shot either way every guest it comes in here gets a one out silver coin from silver gold bull everybody that you know they'll hear me on the show or hear us on the show at some point And they ask about this. And I always tell them, you know, go listen to the front of the show and get in contact, get a hold of those guys and get you some.

Because I have my little hoard, like get a hoard. Guess what we did today at the bar before we came here? Fucking Chuck's my first follower on X. I'm actually stepping into the 21st century. Yeah, once he found where he had the app. What was my name? Jim St. Clair 70.

70. Go follow Jim Sinclair 70 on X. I'll follow you, Jim. Hey, thank you. I think I'm your first follower. Yeah, you are my first. No big deal. Yeah, so I'm good.

So, hey, getting back to our buddy, General Rick Hillier. I know you love him. Yeah. This was the conversation last time. He was actually, no, but he's talked on the radio again since in Saskatchewan. And, you wouldn't answer the conversation. call to come on here just yet. Just yet.

Just saying, well, I talk to Willie, and Willie talked to him. Well, hopefully make it work. So Willie and I are getting... No, no, no, finish it off. Okay, so anyways, Hillary fucking nailed it about like how basically NATO is going to fucking wrap up. The European Union is going to control what's going on in Europe.

Because now the United States wants to make an alliance with everybody in the Pacific, which would be like NATO. But now it's basically doing what NATO did during the Cold War and keeping Russia in the box. Now they want to keep China in the fucking box. So they're wrapping up the war in the Ukraine to bring all the focus on to what's going on in the Pacific. And the Americans already started up in an alliance with New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Japan. Who else is involved in that? Probably South Korea.

South Korea, yep. Well, there's a lot of, like, you have a lot of those little smaller countries, too, like Philippines and several of the other, like much smaller countries than that, even that they see the threat that China is as well. And this is what I want to talk about, Chuck. So the East India, the biggest rival to China, which they hate each other. They're always having border clashes. Yes.

I'm wondering where they're going to fit into this new alliance. It's an interesting one because they're also a nuclear power. They have a massive army. And they're going to want to be part of it, guaranteed. Who's that? India. India. They're always having border clashes with China.

Like, you can go on the telegram and watch like massive, you know, they'll, I would say most of it, it turns into like a fist on fist riot between their units on the border. It's kind of entertaining in a way. Oh, they, they beat each other. with like fucking batons and everything else pick X handles anything to hand yeah yeah but uh there has been like engagement billion people billion people yeah billion people yeah they get out of hand it's going to be wild back i think it was in the 60s or the 70s and uh like an out like a fucking shooting war they've had several shooting incidents yeah yeah several and and and skirmish is

you know going for some chunks of ground that they want but yeah it'll be interesting to see you right what happens to be interesting that's that's the big thing that that's that's the big thing that that we're going to see in the world here in the next like four years, Trump is going to have this fucking NATO will wrap up. Like this war in Ukraine will crush NATO at the end of it. People that are pro-NATO think

that NATO has Russia locked in some sort of proxy war. The 100% reverse of that is true. Russia has locked NATO into a proxy war and has drained the shelves and has shown how utterly useless NATO is. NATO could have gone in. I'll give NATO this. In month one, NATO could have banded together,

thrown a scrap force together, and gone in and probably push the Russians back out. If they wanted to. They didn't. They figured, well, we'll just keep pumping money into Ukraine. Keep pumping money into Ukraine. And what's happening right now after the Kersk salient fell? The Kersailant's gone.

They're pushing into Sumi. They're going heavy now. Oh, fuck. Okay, right. Okay, here's the other, you just reminded me of this. Okay, so you guys are talking about, oh, Jesus. This is, Chuck, you did not serve with fucking Tech Mountain Division. But they liked that the way I killed people.

Yeah, well, fuck, I met him too, motherfucker. I was too busy killing people. I didn't have time to go shake his head and fucking get his fucking. He had a burger with us in a back of her car. Oh, fuck. Anyways, I owe you guys a beer later. I'm always going to pull this. This is my favorite one.

I got dozens of these things. And this is my favorite one. It's got to be a unit to serve with. The 10th Mountain. So their general, two star general Freakley came to us in between ticks. We were back in cap for a rest and respite for like six hours. And so my boys ran to the boardwalk, got Burger King. We're refitting the vehicle.

Our whole company's in the parking lot getting ready to roll out. And he comes up and sits down. And I'm like, in the back of my car my lab I'm like holy fuck it's a two star like that does

Canadian generals they just don't do that like they just they just don't they avoid you you smell funny you look funny this guy sits down

he's like no you guys hillier would do that uh yeah well I prefer freaky and so he sits down

he's like he's pretty good killers and he pulls out he goes gets his adjutant his cap and who's like his lackey. And he gets his bag and pulls out seven of these things for my

boys. Oh, you're, the adj had it. He didn't even have it. Well, he doesn't carry them around. The adge does. Yeah, oh, was he too good? Is he too special? Well, yeah, he's a general. So the, he's got a captain walking around behind him with all this stuff. Like in general, he or after I bodyguard him, he had him in his pocket. Good for him.

And he didn't have nobody fucking handed him. He was mad enough to carry his own joints. He's a great guy. Yeah, he thereby. So he hands us these things. And he's like I know I saw that you guys did. I know you guys are fucking killers and you killed them everybody. You killed them so good. They stayed dead twice like yeah, we did all right. And so we got these things and his adj was losing it. This captain, this 10th mountain guy was losing his nut because he was giving these things to Canadians and we're like we're keeping him. Fuck you. We're not giving him back. So the general was like go away guy and then he took a picture with us. You know, it's one of my favorite pictures from over there and and, yeah, it's a big moment. Yeah, oh, fuck.

I'm sorry. I cut you off for three minutes. Jesus Christ. Did I mention it's great that? Did I mean? I got to open this door and get some more oxygen in. Did I mention it's great to have you boys back in studio together? All right.

Don't you have to piss yet or something? Hey, you know why? I've been doing pretty fucking good. Good thing I brought this pail in. Anyways, getting back to the other part of it. Yeah. So, um, When we were talking about how we could have won the war against Russia,

and Chuck, you're totally right if we would have done it right away, but everybody was sitting on their fucking hands, right? And my point was at that time when you guys were talking about it without me, if we lobbied everybody that's supposed to be our trading allies, to stop trading with Russia for their oil. And in fact, Europe was still buying oil. from Russia during the war. In rubles.

In rubles. During the war. So if they would have fucking turned off the economic tap to Russia, that was my, and that's when you guys are drilling down on me. I'm like, that's the only way of winning the war. It would have helped win the war. That would be the only fucking way. If we made China, India, and Europe not buy Russian oil, it would have, that was the only way

of winning. It could have been, it could have been an economic pressure on Russia for sure. But, but let's, let's. Let's just, and I know you and I have a friendly bet, but let's just think about this. Okay, thousands of people, men and women have been killed. Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed there, yeah. Hundreds of thousands of people who have been killed? Where?

In Ukraine. Yeah. So let's just as friends on that farmer bet when we did it was just, you know, it was, it was, but let's just remember the, you know, the horrific shit that's going on over there. So it's absolutely. No, we might have been kidding and joking about it at the time. And I just want, I just want people to know that are listening. Like, we like, if anybody knows about death and horror, like we know about that. And we hate that this is happening right now as we're speaking.

But it could have been avoided or ended several, several times over. Well, it's just not been. Well, NATO started this war. They've had over expansion towards Russia. Ukraine should have been a European Union nation. same with Poland, same with Finland, and demilitarized zone on either side and everybody'd be living fucking happy with each other.

And unfortunately, Obama fucking was the one that said, hey, you could be part of NATO. And that was in 2014. And the maiden two in 2014. So that's all this shit started. It's terrible what's going on over there. It is. You want a surprise today?

I do. Neither of you know this. This is coming. You want to speak at the corner? for him? Who? You? I guess I could. Not when I'm up there, though, right? Not when Chuck's there. Thank God. Sure. I was supposed to... I'd be honored. I was supposed to have Rebecca Coughler, and that didn't happen. And so I've been slowly dragging my feet, waiting to get the opportune time. But you've got to be a part of a panel with Matt Erritt and Alex Traynor.

Criner. He's smart fellow. I don't know the other guy. Matt Erritt is an author, historian from Montreal. Talking how the West was captured. Oh, that sounds interesting. Yeah, definitely. You have to come up with the topic. Oh, I got lots. One, just pick one.

I got lots. You'll have to find a way to do a keynote speech without the F-bomb happening 16 times. Hey, I talk to kids all the time. Do you swear, though? No, unless it's my kid sometimes. He's 19, no. I can swear at him. When Sean asked, when Sean asked, this was a while back, I said you should have Jamie up there.

Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, there you go, folks. You just got to hear something live because I hadn't, I didn't prep any of you guys for that. I've been thinking about it. I've been thinking about it since we talked. How did I do?

Did I look scared? Rewind the tape. Or you get Chris Sims to ask you a math question up there. You'll get scared. I won't wear any socks. It'll be quicker for me to do the math that way. You don't have to work. I can take my socks off.

Well, she's asking the other guys on my panel, all these crypto math questions and everything else and finance things. I think she got to me and I'm like, don't ask me a math question, lady. She's a sharp lady. Oh, man. So here's the thing. And Chuck, I think this is where this is where we kind of fit in.

Like, yeah, like, we're kind of rough around the edges. We're not, you know, we haven't gone to university, but we've gone to the school of Hard Knocks. And we've seen how some people do things and how the world works. And so we might have some lifetime experiences on certain things. I'm sure you ran into it into other fields. Are you kidding? You kidding me?

Like, Jamie, you were? in the army for 34 years, in the military for 34 years. You've been, you've been, your, your story is, explains that's why you guys keep coming back on. I tell this to, I think I say this over and over again, like in Canada, military, I don't think gets a voice in a whole lot of these conversations. And I'm fortunate to have stumbled into the both of you because of mutual friends now and John Rigaiba, who, if you're listening, John, sucks that you're in Texas for the

forum. Still, you know, cancel your trip. Anyways. And then, of course, our dear friend out in Lumsden. Yeah, Henry. Big Hank. That's right. Big Hank.

And so, like, you know, like, I got a ton of time for you guys. I think the audience has a ton of time for you. And when we're talking about things that have real world implications, who better to have a voice in that conversation, but guys who've actually been in, you know, real world implication, you know, life and death. situations. So if we're going to talk about how the West was captured, um, it, it seems pretty fitting to be honest. I appreciate the opportunity to speak. Usually when a veteran, or at least in my experience, when I've been asked to speak at certain things, beyond the leadership side of

things, I used to do some of that symposium shit. Um, it's always, well, how broken are, are you as a veteran? It's always this, oh, he must be so broken as a veteran. It's like, you know what? that's that's that's that's a whole other chapter in everybody's life that you know but if that's all people want to hear about go talk to somebody else because that's I'm not the boohoo veteran like it's it's it's everybody's got their own journey through everything they've gone through and I'm not knocking that I'm not taking away from that but that isn't the totality of what a veteran is it's what the totality of what the government wants you to think it is you know oh what do you got here oh shit what is it and

Just so Jamie doesn't, this is how confident I thought he was saying yes. Your name's on there. Oh, fuck. Look at that. Jamie. I'm in the fucking boardwalk. I could change the gym, actually. I probably should.

I change the gym. Yeah. Now the reason for that. As people are listening to this. Here's my sales pitch. All right. 11 days left to get tickets with a meal. So, because we have to have the numbers in for the venue.

So we got 11 days left. and the goal is 600 people being there. I think we are four, I haven't checked, 480, something like that. Oh, nicely done. So like 12 days, if you haven't bought a ticket and you're one of those people who wait to the last moment, these are the last moments, 12 days to get one with a meal. And that gets you lunch and supper. Nice.

It's getting you a full lineup. I was, you know, as I'm sitting here, if you haven't heard about the Cornerstone Forum, you got Armstrong to start the day off. Tom Bodrovix, Vince Lanchi, Ben Perrin, Kalen Forb, Chase Barber, Rod Giltaca, Chris Sims, Matt Erritt, Jim Sinclair, Tom Luongo, Chuck Prodnick, Alex Craneer, and then, of course, obviously, myself on stage leading it.

And Toos is going to introduce... Nice! Tews is going to introduce a couple people, too. I can't wait to see that guy. Well, I... Tews, if you're listening, which I know you are, we're bringing down a bunch of bull. It's going to be...

You have to be sober when you speak up there. Hey. How do you know I'm not sober now? I know you are. I can tell you are. Well, there's my sales pitch. And the shout out, I meant to say it when I gave up the silver coins because it is silver gold bull that are co-sponsoring with Bow Valley Credit Union and bringing it to Calgary.

So if you're in the Calgary area or you're needing a reason, you're listening to conversation, you're worried about Carney getting in because by then, we'll have a new prime minister. That'll be something. Yeah, there's going to be something to talk about. There's going to be something in the air to talk about. That's hopefully it's good stuff. Yeah, hopefully 12 days after the election.

We're all going to be in Calgary. And there is a whole list of people coming. Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, going to be in attendance to Evichipiac. Oh, yeah. Keith Wilson? No, Keith can't make it. I believe late in gray is going to be there. Nice.

Now I'm spacing on names. Alex Saltad. if anyone's an Alex Saltamp fan. I know who he is, yeah. The guy cracks me up. Oh, yeah. Like, Marty up north. Oh, nice.

I don't know. The list goes on and on and on, right? Like, there's a ton of good people that are going to be there that are from all over Alberta, Saskatchewan. And, um. Well, John Rahmick bought a table. He did. Yeah. So that's, we're all going like, we're going to sit with him and.

One of the things I do at the end of the night, right before supper. I think it's right before supper. Is it right after supper? I think it's right before supper. is I get everybody to stand and then I see how far people have traveled this year is going to be wild Well you used people from all over the world last time

We had people from all over North America And this will be the first year That I know of people coming from further than that Wow But I was just sat on a phone call You know like we talk about people from Toronto And maybe you know How are they going to vote and everything

Just had a phone call from a lovely couple So shout out to Mira And her husband Al I think it was Calling from Toronto They bought their time to take tickets and they're like, you know, we just, like, how is it going to be? And then they heard that there was already 400 plus people and bought tickets and they're like, how many people?

She goes, oh, to hear, everybody thinks we're nuts. I'm like, I won't think you're nuts at this venue. Like people are going to be, it's a pretty eclectic group of people that show up there and everybody's. I know one other person from Toronto coming and she's like, they're going to hate me? I'm like, no, no, no. I go, I'm hard on Toronto and the east. I'm as hard as it gets on the east in Toronto.

But I know there are good people in all those places. There is more than a handful flying in from Toronto, this car. Yeah. Yeah. So if anybody wants to change. Killer Cabdow, eh? Nobody what he? Yeah, get killer cab down.

Mike Kavanaugh. Is he coming? I'm going to fucking phone him. I'll see if he can come. But he used to serve with us. He's a fucking great dude. Great, great dude. I, and I appreciate the chance of talking again at your, the event.

Because it was, you know, I didn't know what to expect last year, but it was a powerful day. very uplifting, powerful day. Not anybody I spoke to there. Everybody I spoke to there was just completely buoyant by the end of it. You know, it was, um. Well, we talk about some real stuff, right?

But the day isn't to be doom and gloom and fear porn. No, no, no, it's to be like, yeah, there's some tough days ahead. But look around and see all these wonderful people.

One, two, there is a roundtable, uh, solutions in a world full of problems, some really interesting people coming in and talk about some of the stuff they're doing. And just some,

uh, I don't know balanced minds I would say you know like there's solutions here no matter how tough times get you got community you know you got the world

by the tail yeah well and and uh you're talking about you know how you know Canada's been around for a long time and there's all these old people you're wanting to know what they're feeling about government you know we've gone through a lot of things

as Canadians you know how many different wars the depression you know like like We've managed to get ourselves through things, and it's by a steady hand at the wheel, right? So there's lots of intelligent people out there that, you know, that can steer us through this.

We just need to make sure that they're engaged and they're actually. We just got to make sure the population's engaged. Well, part of it. Oh, totally. You touched on something earlier, Sean, that it hits me every time I hear like 2015 and how I wasn't really paying attention before. Nobody really was. Because you know what?

In this country, regardless of which. party it was, they were kind of the same party up to that point. Let's be honest. And so your life was never really that affected one way or the other. The ship kind of just went and hopefully you missed all the icebergs. And then 2015 happened. In the army, we're always conservative. We hated the liberals. Well, because we had no money. I mean, the only thing the liberals know about the army is cut that budget. Cut that budget. Cut it harder. Did we cut enough? Well, and after, like, I got disbanded by the liberals, like, that was fucking horrific. Um, um, And now our Arctic has been on, that was part of the airborne regiment was sovereignty of the north.

Like, so we've left that door open for other nations since 90 fucking five. Like, you know, so we've got some built up aggression against a certain party. And because they earned it. They haven't. We didn't want this to be that way. But, yeah. But I mean, if you're a liberal growing into the army, you're a conservative by the time you got out of it. Five minutes later, yeah.

What do you mean? I have to yell budget cut budget. cut instead of having bullets and we didn't yell pew, pew, pew, pew, or bang, we yelled budget cut budget cut. Pugh Poo Poo! Because we literally had no bullets for training for years. Killing me, Chuck. Oh, dude.

Pue Poo Poo Poo, no, we know budget cut, budget. And then we get in shit for yelling budget cut, budget cut. Well, it's funnier than yelling Pugh, you know. But that's how sad we were for years. We had no bullets to train. We would do, we would do 80, or what was it, 80 rounds for the PWT or whatever the hell it was? Yeah.

The personal weapons test we did once a year. But here's your 80 rounds. Yeah. And we were infantry. So the logs, they didn't get nothing. Like the non-infantry people, sorry. They got, I don't know what they did. The thing is, oh, Chuck, back in that day,

it didn't cost any money to keep us fit. And through fitness, like, you play hockey, you've got a fitter team that a skilled team, you're going to win. Right? And Chuck, we were fucking fit. Like, still am. Well, no. Like, I know you're fit, but you,

you weren't remember we do we do fucking to to train for a 32 kilometer march we do 232 kilometers a week yeah to train for 32 kilometer march here's a kick in the nuts yeah it's like getting kicked in the ball you for the kick in the nuts yeah no like we were fucking fit like uh we had um uh major uh oh oh strogan well no hey listen fuck you he was he worked as hard you don't like him because you're fucking can drink all night and fucking part and work all day. I don't like him for a number and a multitude of reasons. I liked him because he worked us hard.

He fucking... You remember when Rod Dooley Roundhouse kicked him to the fire? Oh yeah, I was standing right there. So this was our major and we used to have what was called smokers back then. And smokers were, you know, you'd get drunked up. And if you had an issue with someone regardless of rank, you fixed it that night and nothing was said the next day. Well, Major Strogan fancied himself something of a kick. or karate karate or something something something's not anything this is back in like 901 2

3 somewhere in there and one of our guys old rod duly was something of a oh he was like delton something and he saw a 12 hundred guys there's like six really tough guys and when they would go to the bar together the bouncers would get like the philly flu and out the fucking leave work and duly was pretty much the leader of these like just insane so he called dully on he said oh you think you're tough i'll take you out and dully's just a corporal and Dooley was like I don't think you want to do this sir and he's like yeah let's do this and roundhouse kicked to the head into the fire pit he goes sergeant major comes over drags him out stands him up says sir go to bed and he says nope that was lucky let's do it again kicked to the head

second time yeah into the fire pit twice yeah and sergeant major old tiny McNaughton yeah and he's like you're done Dooley to bed but yeah no no doley can stay at the fire oh it was strogan to bed fucking put him to sleep oh it was it was it was odd that's not that's That's when we had an army. That's when shit got... And how about there's a sergeant that was in a C company. Everybody fucking hated them. So same kind of punishment.

It was a company smoker. And anyways, the fire was kind of going down. It was getting dark. Not too many people can recognize faces anymore. And they just gave him a dirty, rotten licking. Oh, my God. Yeah. Kept people honest.

Oh, yeah, you couldn't, you could try and be a bully or a dickhead, but it came around. Now. Now you go right to jail. Yeah. Or they kick you right out. Yeah. You got anything left on that list? No.

No. Jesus. I think he's got mayonnaise and sugar or something on the lid. He's supposed to pick up this. No. Actually, a lot of them were brought up without me even had to look at it. I feel better now. I bet you do.

This is like, this is what I need for counseling. This is your catharsism. Yeah. We just need to have you boys on once a month so Jamie can come down. And vent. Actually, you know, that was the first time I was actually worked up on something. Well, we got a lot to be worked up about. This is a, you know, like you said a minute ago,

2015 before that really, except for us who were kind of affected by the government pretty heavily, we didn't, it didn't really matter because it just steered. And under Harper, things steered pretty good, not that he was perfect. But then the biggest mirror change was. getting Trudeau and my goodness. There's nobody that can say, very few people that can say. I'm happy,

I'm happy to pay attention. Someone's just life, you know, like before 2015, every election before that, I was either, you know, a young man like in high school still living at my parents

or I was playing hockey and I didn't have a care of the world. Politics didn't matter, no. No. I wasn't even in the country. I remember that first podcast that I met you with Henry and we were talking about some,

you know, deep issues. and you're like, I just wanted to like interview hockey players. I did. And it was like... Believe me. At 2015, I didn't watch the election. Yep.

2019 was the first live election, watching the results come in, watching the CBC, and actually just sitting there by myself on the couch. Remember it like, you know, at that point we would have had two kids and Mel would have been pregnant. We would have been pregnant with 30. He was born in late September. So I think I was sitting up by my... myself watching. I remember it and just being like, this can't happen. And then wexed happened. I went to a wexit in Lloyd. Like I couldn't believe I'm going to it. I'm like, I guess so.

And here in 2025, me and twos are going to push the envelope on seeing how many thousands of people we can have watching a 12 hour live stream on the 28th. And I'm just like, you know, like, and this week we got, we got the French debate and we got the English debate. And Tuesday is pushing on me that we should be doing live shows. And I'm like, I just, I got life as, got to go on. We just can't do a live show for every freaking thing. And I know I should, but I'm like, I don't even know if I got anything left to say. You know?

It's the burnout. Even I feel it right now. Like, I feel bad that there's, there's nothing good to say right now. You know what I mean? But here's the thing. That's why if we change the narrative and like stop talking about what Trump is doing and start talking about what Ottawa has

done for this last however many days. And these are my these were my issues. It's like, let's change the narrative for, for Canadians to talk about what Ottawa has done. That's not worried about what Trump is doing. If you listen to the mashup,

that's all we do. We just talk about, we just literally talk about Canada. Oh, totally. But there's lots of Trump. There's lots of Trump and tariff within those mashups too, right? Which you kind of can't avoid. But, and the other thing is,

let's start holding like, like, how do we allow a foreign nation to operate inside of our, country and let Canadians be kidnapped and bounty's paid and fucking sent off to back to China to be executed like people got to fucking be upset about this shit this is not how a country if you were putting it on a page of the paper where did that story make it eighth page well that's wasn't headline news i mean it was for like a hot minute a hot minute it was never talked about no yeah on x on exit it was talked about yeah but about how foreign nation could do operate Well, that's the only place it is talked about because the mainstream doesn't touch it.

And that's the other problem too is like I was just talking to somebody today about on X, about X, I mean. I guess I got to start paying attention to X now. I can't even scroll for five minutes and I want to throw my phone. You know what I mean? Like, and I used to be probably the biggest shit poster on there for a long time. And I just can't be bothered. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. You're going to get attacked from the left and the right. You know, it's like having, you, when you, you, You had Max on for an interview a while back, and it was a good interview. Don't get me wrong. My own opinions about that guy aside, the party, you look at on Twitter about that party, and they don't attack liberals. They only attack conservatives.

Yeah. I mean, 98% of it. I shouldn't say only. Not all, but 2% might attack the liberals here by accident. And let's look at conservatives, right? Like who's the biggest component of a conservative is another conservative? Always. Like, we've got to learn.

conservatives like okay so-and-so steering the ship let's not fucking blow it up while we're on it let's let's achieve a goal at least and and and not fucking try and and throw them out as leader because we're upset about the difference we in my view the difference between a liberal and a conservative there's many differences I guess but when it comes to the party stuff liberals will close ranks around a defective candidate or person or issue, whereas conservatives tend to, not always, but tend to be like, we don't want that if that's what they're doing. It's dirty, gross, illegal, get it gone, get them gone.

Typically, I'm not, again, not always. But, and it's the same way for, for most of the stuff that we see individually, too. Like, the liberals will just close ranks. So are you saying they closed ranks because they're all in, they're all got their hand in the honeypot and they don't want everybody to see? They would rather power than be more. No, I think, I think, I think, I don't, I don't think it's anything to do with that. I think they're all got something on.

Oh, I don't doubt that either. And they, they got to protect themselves. So they all band together. I don't doubt that either. But I'm just saying conservatives tend to think individually a lot more than a liberal does. Liberals just tend to. The Borg. More of the Borg mentality will assimilate.

Well, that's what they told me to do. So I'm going to do it. People thinking, because Reveyor. They got a financially benefit from it. I'm sure they do. I have no doubt that they are. I mean, they get kickbacks of every kind of grant there is, subsidy there is. But people think, well, veterans must be the biggest mindless drones there are,

and they just followed orders. I don't know if anybody's listened to Jamie R, but there's a lot of times where we didn't exactly do what we were told a lot of the time because you don't just mindlessly do things unless you're a liberal, and then you just kind of borgue along. Well, if you mindlessly did things in an enemy territory, you'd probably be dead. And Canadians are famous for that in battle. Like the British, before we were under all Canadian command,

the British would actually take Canadians and tie them to wagon wheels and flog them because they're insubordinate and they fucking would tell their British commanders that were basically there from family, like because their family had a right to have. Yeah. And they'd be like, no, you're fucked. We're going to do it this way. And then they'd fucking be,

they'd be flogged for their disobedience to an order. Well, I saw Carney, and I'm sure every prime minister's had to do it, swear allegiance to the crown. So, I mean, at some point, we just need to, um, we need to break that. Whether it's this election or it's, or it's 50 years down the road, at some point, it's going to come to a head. I mean, like, Carney just makes it so evident. Yes. So clear pictured. Like, we got another four years of us.

Four years, not just of this. but of the, this is the guy who's been pulling the strings of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the, the architect. I hate to use that word because of the other fella, but he is the literal blueprint design architect of what we've just experienced. That when he was the bank of England, their former PM, What'ser Noodle, she was going on about how he, he just drove their country into the ground.

Well, they had a bunch of, they had a host of issues at that point, but he didn't help it. Yeah. So I, I, I wish I was more upbeat on some end of this today. I just, I just. Well, we're going to find out. That's the only thing, right? Like, we're, we're two weeks out. We're under two weeks out from the election.

And you go, like, pay attention, because we're going to, we're going to watch it one way or another. On April 28th, the YouTube Yahoo's are going to be joining on the live stream as we do 12 hours, me and twos and a whole host of guess. And one way or another, I mean, I look at it, we're either going to be having like this, I can't believe Karni actually won. or it's going to be a different tone if Pierre wins, right? Like, I mean, love or hate the conservatives, it's going to be a different tone to all the guests when they come on. You can already tell it. I mean, you already know that's going to happen.

Yeah. So it's going to be one or two. And either way, with twos and guys like Uncle Hack and a whole cast of characters, it's going to be something that'll at least make you laugh while we're staring at into the abyss. Yeah, whatever happens one way or another. gentlemen thanks for uh taking the trip is that is that all you got chuck

okay my my last plea before we end this if anybody's out jim sinclair's last plea fire away if anybody's in toronto or that area if you there are people listening from if you guys can volunteer and and watch what's going on during the election

and and just that that would you never know you could be changing the country so i i I plea for Easterners to look at what potentially could happen to our country, and hopefully we can figure things out. And anybody that can volunteer out there, I thank God for your service and for what you potentially can do for our country. So that's my last thing on that.

You're here. Gentlemen. Hey, and love you. Thanks for giving us a voice there, buddy. That's his last, last thing. That's his last last thing. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah. I'm sure you're going to do something. No, he's hurt. You're not going to thank him? Thanks, buddy.