Shaun Newman Podcast - #834 - Matt Ehret

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Matt Ehret is a Canadian journalist, lecturer, historian, and founder of the Canadian Patriot Review and the Rising Tide Foundation. He is the author of the four-volume Untold History of Canada series, which explores overlooked aspects of Canadian history, focusing on the influence of imperial powers, the "Deep State," and nation-builders who resisted these forces.Cornerstone Forum ‘25https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone25/Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Substack:https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastSilver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Matt Aaron. Sir, thanks for hopping on. Greetings and salutations. Always a pleasure. It's been a while, and you're going to be out west here.

Man, it's like, I don't know how many days are we away now? like 20 24-ish so three weeks roughly ish roughly ishish so yeah you're going to be out here right away excited to have you part of my creation we'll see we'll see how that goes how have things been you've been all over the place every time I talk to you you're in a different place and you're like 14 hours ahead of me or whatever the heck the time change was so you're back in Montreal things are back to relative normal I guess so. Like I in the sense that we left to go to go to Italy first for a couple of weeks and then and then Thailand when winter was just kicking our ass, man. It was so bad. And back in February and I was racked and we decided we're just going to avoid the rest of winter. And of course, fate is sort of laughing at us because we got back and immediately got hit with a snowstorm a few days ago. And now this morning I woke up to more snow. So.

So it's okay. Yeah, back to normal in that sense. Cold, dark, yeah. That's funny. I woke up this morning and we've been having like, you know, like, I don't know, plus 10 days. Just like lovely.

Almost T-shirt weather. T-shirt weather. I think it's T-shirt weather. Americans probably won't think that. And certainly some other places won't think that. But like, you know, like T-shirt weather.

And then this morning, the wind was so cold and it started to snowing again. I'm like, come on. Just relent already. Just relent. Let's have some spring here. Oh, what are you going to do? That's Canada for you.

Climate changing, eh? Damn. Yeah. Changing climate. We're all willing to along. Could I just warm up that one degree you're talking about already? We could take it up here. We could take it.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm curious, how was being out of Canada and kind of like staring at it from afar and then coming back in? Well, I guess I was sort of staring at it from afar while the Justin was being sort of, changed for a slightly more dangerous version of himself in the form of Carney. So that was a little bit demoralizing in that sense. Though it was something I had known was already in the game plan. Like I had written an article back in 2022 making the point that the oligarchy is setting a stage for Mark Carney to replace Justin when he's all used up. And they've probably had their eyes set on this vetted character back in 20, probably 2009 when the guy was the governor of the Bank of Canada.

I think it's been a long time plan. Though here it is. Now it's finally there. So we're on the verge of an election, which I think is a bit of a garbage. But it's probably been pre-decided that he's going to be inserted no matter what. And that's not going to make it easy for Patriots. And I'm not, I wasn't enthusiastic. I was, you know, it was a weird feeling because I'm on the, I'm having a very nice vacation

in Thailand, you know, chilling beauty, beaches. War, sunshine. Yeah, and so there's this cold darkness, kind of like this ominous cloud hovering over that whole thing. Kind of was not a spoiler, but it definitely, definitely was, it didn't let me get full on to fantasy mode, you know? Yes, I understand. Yeah.

Yeah. So here we are. Okay. Okay. I wanted to get your thoughts on Mark Kerr. I mean, we can talk about a whole lot of things. But to me, you know, like I try and I'm saying, I'm saying earlier today, I'm like, maybe Pierre wins or some insane world, Maxine Bernier, steals a whole bunch of seats, right?

Like he was just on Tucker, right? Maybe, maybe all of a sudden Canadians all vote and PPC just goes screaming off and you get the point. but I'm like, it just, it just seems like Carney is, is inching closer or, or, you know, it's tough because you got the French, you know, as we record this, the French debate's about to happen. And then you, and then you have the, uh, uh, you have the English debate. Uh, as this airs, the English debate will be tonight or, you know, as it airs, it'll be, um, as we're sitting here, it's tomorrow and as it, this airs it's tonight. Anyways, I'm confusing everybody. I'm including myself. Um, so you know, like, is there a way things can change? Absolutely. I think 100% plausible. But let's talk Kearnie here for a few minutes. Your thoughts. Sure. Well, I just released a couple of short films.

It's part of a broader series. We might do four episodes. Each one's small, five to ten minutes. Yeah, I watched what you sent me. And very quick, lots of info, you know, I think it was eight minutes, wasn't it? Like, it wasn't, it wasn't, you know, hard and hitting. Yeah, tiny. Yeah, it's very dense.

But, you know, it's called the dystopic mission of Mark Carney. The first one's on the Karni is the ghost of Maurice Strong, just to sort of try to get a sense, the pedigree of like, what type of character is he within the broader story of Canada and the world more largely? So that was the first sort of story. The second one is on Green Bonds and oligarchs, just to get across Carney's dual role in both playing a, being a driving force within the Goldman Sachs managerial class.

So he's a top investment banker at Goldman Sachs overseeing the growth of this massive, speculative, debt-based derivatives bubble that is the time bomb built into the Western banking system, which is designed to blow. And that's been the purpose of this thing going back many decades. So he's been playing a dual role in both overseeing the growth of this, as did Maurice. as well as the solution to the oncoming sort of shock that this thing is designed to create in the in the minds of the victims, which is this green financial sort of response under a green bond's green New Deal, you know, build back better for the world logic. That also involves his influence within both Chatham House, the royal families of England, especially the British royal family, Chatham House being sort of the queen of all think

tanks. Sometimes its official name is the Royal Institute for International Affairs. Its American branch is the Council on Foreign Relations that was set up in 1921. This is what Hillary Clinton called the mothership back in 2009. It's sort of, I would say, the directing hand of a lot of the worst foreign policy and domestic policy decisions made by the United States as it was transformed increasingly into an empire over the course of the entirety of the last century. And Carney's the president of this. He's one of the four presidents of the British Chatham House, Royal Institute for International Affairs. There's a branch in Canada, too.

And so, you know, I sort of tried to paint that picture of what this thing is as a coordinating body, as the sort of dark soul of the five eyes. There's a branch in Australia, one in New Zealand, one in South Africa. And this is what's been really, I think, just doing the most damage as far as creating unnecessary wars, regime change, assassinations, drug running, you know, managing that entire global narcotics trade going back a century, even more than a century into the past and maintaining a direct continuity. So he's got a very, oh, also Bilderberg. So I've also pointed out in one of those videos, his role on the Bilderberg steering committee. that's like one of the top influential organizations that was created by I can pause you for a second it's just like you know when when you think of all the things you know like I'm thinking back to 2020

late 2020 Sean knows about zero about any of these words you're saying and then I was given a list and I forget who get it was somebody in Saskatchewan forgive me give me a list and he said you know someday you're gonna you know you're going to start to see more and more things and you just here here's the list that set me on my course and i remember looking at a few of them um you know like i don't know uh project paper clip would be a nice easy one right uh there's plenty of books about that or project mockingbird or you know and on and there was like i think you had like 21 or 23 of these things and half of what you just said was on that list and he's a part of him well that's great that's that's this is what i'm like you know i've been i've been i've been

partially sounding the alarm of like Canadians you really need to wake up not that not that anyone's really you know the people are listening have been awake for a long time and um i i i try and like go it can't be that bad you know like it can't be that bad then i just hear you rattle off on that i'm like nah it's pretty sure it's that bad Sean yeah you know it's it's it's rough man it's it's a it's a bitter bitter bit of medicine i guess we all got to sort of take in and swallow, but no, I mean, you know, we're less inclined to be dupes and fall for garbage, you know, weaponized narratives. Because it's an information of minefield right now and the war really is the battle of the mind. So the more we know and understand this enemy, this,

this parasite that's been sort of latched on to humanity for thousands of years. And it's recordable. You could actually like identify and map it and how this thing organized forever wars in ancient Greece, how it transformed Greece from being. being a bastion of democracy and liberty into becoming an empire as it declined and self-cannibalized or how it latched onto Rome turned it into from a republic into this insane empire. You can sort of, it's actually open to investigation and see how this thing maintained itself and sometimes rebranded its activities over the ensuing 2000 years. But it's the same thing.

It operates with the same MO. It's largely the same fact. Some of the top key families that are still there today operating the show from the top can trace their lineage back to the emperor of the Claudian dynasty and various patrician families that ran the Roman Empire. So it's the same ultimate thing that utilize a certain occult rituals, mystery cults, initiation ceremonies that are designed to break us of our humanity or its initiates of their humanity and then reconstruct people in alignment. with an identity more becoming to those who would maintain a transgenerational system of master slaves relations, which normal humans would just reject outright. We would never just willfully just adopt or accept adapting to that type of structure. But they're really good at being really bad.

So they've mapped out certain techniques, both to get us to embrace our own slavery, but then also to shape their own and groom their own in a multi-layered system. And as I alluded to this Chatham House thing, it was created with, the funds of Cecil Rhodes and Cecil Rhodes, this most evil sociopath that raped Africa for a long time got a huge fortune and created a manifesto to create a secret society which became the Rhodes Trust or otherwise known as the Rhodes Scholarship Program that would be coordinated through these roundtable movements that would also be funded by his massive pot of gold, which is what Carney, you know, is directly.

responsible for why they like these Canadian sociopaths like what I'm okay I won't call Karnia sociopath but I think he is but I why they like these these managers from Canada like like like Mori Strong as well who was himself earlier on a Bilderberger very close to Kissinger very high up with the the Rockefeller machinery who is the father of the Green New Deal and a mentor of Klaus Schwab why they would like these guys I don't really fully know what it is you know Is there some family connections that go even further back, maybe to the family compact that William Lyne McKenzie was rebelling against? I'm seeing that there is a possibility of that. But that's a challenge for other researchers to dig into.

I think they would find certain things like that. But again, I think the more we know, the less we're inclined to follow for their tricks. That's my key takeaway from that. Obviously, we don't know the outcome. We can speculate. we can certainly tie things to the bigger plan of maybe certain groups of people, i.e. the elites. Assuming. Well, actually, I don't want to assume anything. What do I want to say here? I mean, we could make a different word hypothetically, like hypothesizing.

I guess. I guess. Let's go down the road of Carnegie getting in. Your thoughts on what that means for Canada? knowing his background and everything he's tied into. Oh. Well, I guess it's always within a broader global chemistry. Like Canada, I've written a four-volume book series, right, called The Untold History of Canada that people could check out if they want a bit more thorough analysis. Because my approach was always to sort of frame Canada from the standpoint that it, my governing hypothesis that animated my research and the writing and all of that

was that Canada was never permitted to become a real country and that we've always always been a chess piece within the British Empire's great game. And so though we've come close at different moments of breaking free, there's been bright, shining moments that have been almost completely wiped out of our history books. They're there. They're real. Some of our greatest heroes were, I would say, likely killed, though people say, you know, natural death for Daniel Johnson or the Premier of Quebec. I think there was a good case to be made for assassination for many of these cases or just direct, you know, regime change from within, as in the case I would say of Deef and Baker, possibly C.D. Howe. Point being, is Canada's played a

role? So what does that role been? The role that I would say we've played generally is as a primarily wedge, a wedge run by the Privy Council and unelected shadow government baked into our our very constitution of 1867, a wedge between any potential emergence of cooperative relations between Russia and the United States, which largely characterized a friendship more often than not over the last 240 years than anything. Russia did make the American revolution possible with the League of Arm neutrality and their leadership there. They came in and save the United States at a time of crisis in the Civil War. It was the Americans that helped Russia build their first railway system between Moscow and St. Petersburg in the 1840s and 50s.

It was Russia, USA, that brought in teams of engineers to support Russia in developing and industrializing with the Abraham Lincoln protective tariff and national banking strategy that built the Trans-Siberian Railway. It was Russia and the USA, who together formed an alliance that was able to put down a Wall Street, London-funded fascist machinery in World War II. So more often than not, they have been friends, but Canada's role generally as the monarchy of the Americas, again, run by the Privy Council and a very unelected shadow government, has been to keep this wedge from ever from this deeper cooperation, especially in Arctic development, which Lincoln aspired to, called for Alexander II,

the Sergei Vita, the finance minister of Russia. Many, I mean, it's a huge, it's a long list of people who fought to unite around Arctic development. That's why Russia sold Alaska. That's a big part of why BC was so prized by the empire and was why the empire fought so hard through bribes and threats and murder to keep BC as part of Confederation. And we're talking, you know, 1870s, 1860s. So I think that Carney, he just gave a speech a couple of weeks ago saying that, under no circumstance, would he ever allow for Canada to play any role with Russia or the USA on Arctic development? I think he did that in the wake of Putin's offer, saying when Putin said everything is on the table,

especially Arctic development with the United States. There's a sort of retooling of the relations between the U.S. and Russia. And so the Arctic is an obvious one, a no-brainer for anybody wanting to find some points of, of like, healing and real economic cooperation. Canada would benefit immensely. So he just sort of doubled down on that never happening. And I think he's sort of just sucking in or capitalizing on this renewed fake Canadian nationalism, which is just, I mean, it's really spreading, especially in Ontario and some of the, well, Maritimes, Quebec to a certain degree, but the whole talk of making Canada, the 51st state,

really, I think, has worked against the conservatives quite a bit. I mean, I think Trump made a big blunder, and it's helping Carney, who's sort of stepping into the image of the Pierrelli at Trudeau, who kept Canada together, which I know for Albertans, that doesn't mean much. But for Eastern more brainwashed Canadians, that's a big hypnotic spell where they've been sold that. That was like the Lincoln of Canada, right, who kept us together during the martial law of the October crisis of terrorists and referendums of 80 and 94. And it was, you know, that's what Carney sort of the branding. bodies. Yeah. He saved Canada in 2008 by keeping us as the clean conservative banking sector of the world, you know, that weathered the storms that hurt everyone else, but not us. Now, the fact was that that was always garbage. We just had more opacity over our banking system. So we were able to get

away with more than the United States did, who has more, they were forced to admit their shenanigans publicly, whereas we didn't have to so much. But the image and the, That's what was everything. It's perception, which mattered more. And that's what he's sort of capitalizing on now. I, you know, I've been wondering about this if it was a blunder by Trump. You know, I go back to Peter Schultz, who was a guest on the podcast, and he talked about how the liberals sent Trudeau down there,

knowing how Trump would react to him, beat his chest and do the Trumpian thing. And, you know, you get the point. And ever since he talked to me about that, I was like, huh, the liberals are pretty brilliant then if that is the case when you look at what they did and how they galvanized the population from being like you're going to have a super majority conservative to now where we're even in discussion of the liberals being anywhere near and and then but okay so you play that out for the first a little bit okay fine but at this point when when fox news is sitting with Donald Trump and going you know um who do you you want to win and he says uh you know something along the lines of the liberals and the lady goes like liberals and he goes oh yeah they'd be way easier to work with to me what's happening now and now you see maxine bernier on tucker carlson and and you've seen all these things i'm like it all lends to the liberals winning the next election why would you do that because he he has to know

that alberta is upset that alberta when they started talking the 51st state was very you know i mean I mean, like, it blew up. It was all over the place. The Jeff Rath video now is the 51st state thing. A serious conversation, that's not how I want to put it. Like a realistic one at this current state where we sit. No, not at all. Right?

Like, I mean, you have to have a whole bunch of dominoes. But, like, why keep playing that? And I go, I don't know if it's a Trump blunder at this point. I wonder what he's trying to get after with looking at Mark Carney, him knowing the background of this. like I don't know to me it's there's more things going on than what I guess we just you know

meet CI yeah well early on I was making the point as soon as Trump launched into this narrative in late January my warning has been and I maintain it loudly presuming that Trump means well and is following advisors or whatever that's my hypothesis

maybe he's totally dishonest maybe, but I'm still operating under the hypothesis that he's a patriot who means well. My warning has been that this is, that people need to be careful that this might be a bait and switch, a trap, not to make Canada more Republican at the end of the day, but to make America more Canadian. And this has been something which I glean, not just from the technocracy, like the technocracy Inc. movement, which never fully disappeared.

You know, I'm sure you and probably many of your viewers are aware. It's gone pretty viral that Elon Musk's grandfather was devoted to a vision of North America under a North American Technate as he was the Saskatchewan head of, or actually, I think it was the federal head of the Technocracy Inc. Movement, Technocracy Incorporated. Way, way, way back when. Way back when. Like, this thing was set up by Howard Scott, who is not even.

an engineer. But they basically called for, he was using this, this thesis run by a figure who was very closely tied to the Fabian Society in America through New School, or an outbranch of the Columbia of New York's Columbia University. New School was created in 1919 by John Dewey and a group of these misanthropic American Fabians, one of which was Thorsten Verblen, who founded Technocracy Alliance, which gave rise to Technocracy Inc. And in that, he, His thesis was the world Soviet of engineers, those who control the levers of production, need to have a mass strike to shut down society to sort of accelerate a collapse in order to force a shock into global society in order for people to recognize that we need to

recreate human civilization from scratch the way that these engineers wanted. Very nichean, Uber-mentioned type of thinking, very fact, fascistic-y type of organization. And when it was set up and when the Canadian branch was set up, yeah, Joshua Haldemann became the head of it very quickly for about five or six years until he was arrested for being on the wrong side of World War II. Because he did call for the overthrow of the Canadian government while we were fighting fascism. And there's some weird stuff, you know, like this is the guy who before that he was the Saskatchewan head of the Canadian Fabian Society from 1933 to 36, Joshua Haldon. meaning he was working very closely with all of the Rhodes Scholars in Ottawa who had set up the leak for social reconstruction, which was the Canadian Fabian Society in 1931.

Their political party was the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation. That became the NDP later on. That's what he headed in Saskatch when, and then would he realize that that was not going to get power? He basically headed up Technocracy Inc. To be a member, you had to give up your name and have your name changed to a bunch of numbers and X's. So that was like every member.

There were several million members in North America. This is a pretty big thing. It was surprisingly big. Which, again, caused me to, like, look twice when I see some of the choices Elon has selected for his own kids, test two babies and stuff. Like, why X's and numbers, right? Like, that's things like that. So I know that there's been this, though it was put on the back burner after World War II, it didn't fully disappear. And then when I look at it.

at people around Mark Carney, you know, around the Canada 2020 think tank that Carney's wife is the president of the, I think she's the head of research and development for the Canada 2020 think tank. Diane Carney. It's like, well, the Canada 2020 think tank was the entity that was set up to purge the liberal party of all of the Jean-Cretzien liberals that were formerly sort of the more Trumpian old school like let's do business deals statesman. That was the old liberal party of Critsier, a little less cooperative to the to the technate. And the purging of, that was overseen by Canada 2020. And amongst those privy counselors who set it up, there's about eight privy counselors who founded this thing. Two of them were heads of the task

force for the North American Union, John Manley and forgetting the other guy's name. I wrote it's a chapter in one of my books. So the North American Union, that, what is that? That's effectively the revival, the tweaked, but a revival of the North American Technate, which they was, you know, they're even put, they're really promoting. this thing in 2006, 2007, as a solution to the great, to the economic collapse that might have been the systemic breakdown. But, you know, they were, they're feeling people out to see how much would we resonate to it. They even circulated these publicity coins called the Amaro's modeled on the European Union, the, the euro. Ultimately, I think it was decided after a few impact

studies with the population that we were not ready to give up our sovereignty yet. So they put it on the back burner again. But they're still there. Thomas Axworthy. that's the name, Pierre Liot Trudeau's former personal secretary, privy counselor, head of Canada 2020 think tank, North American Union Task Force with John Manley. So these creatures are still there. And this is what Carney directly interfaces with. They brought in Obama.

They brought in Larry Summers. They brought in all of the behaviorists who are soon going to take over the USA before they did that. They were brought into Canada as well. So this is like one of the core nodes shaping. some some longer term subtle strategies. So my fear is that, yeah, they might get the U.S. to misstep in the context of a systemic breakdown crisis, which is part of the time bomb of the derivatives bubble that Carney set

into motion or play a role helping to set into motion. I mean, he was the head of the Financial Stability Board from 2011 to 2018 while he was the head of the Bank of England. The Financial Stability Board is the Department of the Bank of International Settlements, which oversees directly global derivatives regulation. So he did directly oversee the creation of the derivatives. He directly oversaw, going back to 2010, the creation of the bail-in mechanism, the bailings which were brought into the Canadian Bank Act in 2016 under Justin,

but they're also baked into the U.S. bank, or not, it's not called the Bank Acts, I forget, but it's basically U.S. legislation there, as well as the European Central Bank that gives the authorization to these private banks the next time that they are in a systemic breakdown crisis instead of getting bailouts from the outside to be allowed to steal people's savings, pensions, other things, and convert it into bank stock to stay afloat. That's part of, that's a carny design with Mario Draghi, who's also was a big player and is a big player in the EU, both Goldman Sachs investment bankers, both eco-warier anti-human globalists, both. So you know, you got very bad ideas. And again, my fear is that Trump is being set up to

to bring the U.S. back into the fold as Cecil Rhodes called for in his manifestos that created the roundtable that called for the reacquisition of the colonies of the America back in back under the fold of the British Empire, which also causes me, and I'll just say this, to cringe. Well, I cringe in the deepest fiber of my being when I hear Trump say things. to King Charles. Like, I love you. It's a great idea. We'd love to become associate members of the British Commonwealth.

Thanks. Are you, is he playing around? Is these just words? Maybe, I hope they are. But if he actually is dumb enough to think that that's a good idea, again, I get goosebumps, bad goosebumps. Yeah, there's been enough things that Trump has done his actions, that I'm like, ooh, I really like that.

Ooh, I really like that. And then there's some things where you're like, when he said that, like, what? That didn't make any sense. Yeah. Like, does that make any sense to you? I get it. Like, I know where it's coming from, I guess. Because, sorry, I'm just chewing.

I shouldn't be chewing. Well, I'm hitting you at supper time. So I'm like, I get it. Yeah. Yeah, no. So I guess he, here's my, he should know. better because he he there's all kinds of evidence that's indicated to me that he gets that there is that the entire russia gate the entire thing that that caused him so much pain i would imagine

uh and headache during his first term was an m i6 directed operation christopher steel was a direct m i6 operative directly under sir richard dearlove same guy who created the dodgy dossier that justified the war in iraq that was that was not an american creation it was all made up but it was created by MI6, given then to Dick Cheney and Colin Powell. That was Sir Richard Deerlob. Deerlev also was the guy who brought in the first draft of the dodgy dossier to Strope Talbot, a Rhodes Scholar who oversaw Brookings, who then brought in Ivan Deschenko, this sort of hack, you know, 20-year-old, nobody rushing,

masturbator who was just like an intern at Brookings. Yeah, the guy was a perp. But and he was just given some cash, you know, given this dossier of made up stuff about, you know, prostitutes peeing on Trump. And then was introduced to Christopher Steele who like hired him. So, you know, you had this whole thing. The smell of the British dirty hand from steel to Dear Love to the Rhodes Scholars under Talbot or Talbot as a road scholar. It's just everywhere. So I think even kicked out, Trump even kicked out, rightfully so.

British ambassador to the USA, Kim Sir Kim Derrush, Sir Kim, in 2019. Fantastic. Good. He gets it, you know, I thought. But he seems to have this weird admiration for the institution of the hereditary figure itself of the monarchy that I think he seems to think is somehow different from this shadow government, nasty structure of influencers around. my sixth, the GCHQ, the Rhodes Scholars.

I think he sees them as if they're separate, somehow as if the noble institution of the crown is threatened by this thing or captured by this thing. And I think that's a blunder because I think that King Charles especially is very, very self-aware and committed to that very same mission that these creepy agents are also committed to. And Prince, you know, King Charles is, is like a leading figure who ushered in the Great Reset. It was his, he was given the authorization by whomever makes these decisions to be the one

selected to, you know, introduced to the world the Great Reset in January of 2020 as a new branding. You know, he's, he's the guy who's been assigned. He's been working with Klaus Schaub. He's been a mentor of Klaus Schwab since the 70s. He brought in the clean eco-business council. He brought him the, you know, counsel for inclusive capitalism with the Vatican, the Jesuit-controlled Vatican synergy now that's coming to bear. So Carney and Trump have this weird, there's a lot of overlaps. And I don't think Trump likes Carney.

I don't think. I hope not. But then again, I've also been reading, and I need to substantiate this, but on Wiki Spooks, which is pretty reliable, it's made the point that Carney is also a member, a knight of the order of, Malta, the sovereign order of Malta. If that's true, and again, Wiki Spooks has been pretty good on their information on these things. If that's true, that would place him directly into the same network of many neocons who are trying to control and influence, or Christian Zionist types, who are trying to influence

Trump's presidency as well in regards to empowering greater Israel. in the Middle East, which is creating all sorts of unnecessary risks for World War III there as if we didn't need, as if we really needed another point of inflammation. There's so many triggers that could possibly unleash World War III. Why that one? But there we go. So there's things like that. And I think that if Trump really is charmed by the institution of the crown, that would be a big blind spot. I hope he's, I hope he's smarter than that. once it's when you talk about you know all the different things going on and then and then you and then you plop in him putting that out about the monarchy and well both commonwealth

i i don't see the you know but once again it's just one little data point and i wish you know it's not like i follow trump's every word he does i don't follow every speech he does i have a hard enough time keeping up to Carney right now and everything going on in Canada and just trying to be on top of it. And at times, you know, like one of the things about this side of the world is like, I just think of like burnout. I just think like you sit there and you and you're trying to like sift through all the things they're doing. And at times you can just get worn out. You're just like, oh, I'm just going to go stand in the wind and let it beat on me for a bit, you know? Like I literally I'm just tired of listen to these guys, you know, just jockey for position.

And, and, you know, like, it just mind boggles me that so many Canadians get caught up and the elbows up thing and, and, and just can't see past the facade that is Mark Carney. Like, just look at what he's all tied to. And then realize what that's tied to. And isn't that what we all just lived through? And we're like, we're going to go anywhere near that? Like, are we insane? I think we're insane.

And yet, you know, it's funny, I sit and once again, you know, out in Alberta, this is growing, hmm, it's percolating. I would just say it's lightly percolating, and some would probably tell me it's more than that, Sean. You know, we had a town hall on Monday, Matt. And it was very little advertising. Just put Alberta independence. We just want to have a chat about it. Nothing crazy.

We're not telling you to go pick up your pitchforks. We're not telling you to do anything. we just want to have a chat about it. And we had over 100 people show up. And, you know, I put that into comparison to a year ago, almost at the same time, we brought in April Hutchinson and Linda Blade and we had Rebel News there and it was like this big to do. And we didn't have half that. And so you go, oh, there's this little thing that's percolating right now because more and more people

have went through lots of different things, not to mention COVID being in not so, distant rear view mirror and now you see you know like tamarin chris and the things they're saying facing and the fact they want to repossess the big red and sell it off and all these crazy things you're like oh my god and so like there's there's this there's this conversation percolating out here right and there's more and more people going you know i i'd hate it but part of me just goes all right let's have mark kearney east you want them fine bring them in let's see what happens because the pain's got a ratchen up here if we're going to ever get to fixing things because Because the, you know, like it's like our population needs a little bit of pain to activate it.

I know, I think about that too sometimes as well, right? Like looking at history and thinking like how it's this weird balance. Like how was it that big changes for the positive, impossibly good changes happen? Yeah. Whether it's the American Revolution, could that have happened if the population was super satisfied with their life. No. There had to be some abuse,

some having your head held under water in order to like properly appreciate oxygen, you know? We all got to drown a little bit by someone else's hand to be like, I just want to breathe again. Can we do that? It's unfortunate.

I like like a little bit of pain sometimes has been important to just shake people out of their complacency and delusions. But at the same measure, you don't want to like decapitate the, the person that you want to to fight. The Great Depression, right? Like if we didn't have this crazy-ass great depression from 22 to 34, and it really can see,

the pain continued after 34, but still, if you didn't have that deep, deep existential crisis, would people have understood why it was necessary to break up the banks to, to allow for the types of projects that were able to be unleashed? Like the rule of these giant,

giant projects that was the new deal. I don't think so. I think that the people were too happy with just going with the status quo in the 20s. It was easy money, you know, it was the growing 20s. You could gamble, make money with other people's savings and nobody's going to hold you accountable. And there was poverty, but, you know, things were good times. So yeah, in that sense, the Great Depression was needed. But you could have, you know, in hindsight, the fact that you would be able to get an anti-fascist leader like a Roosevelt who was able to have the courage to go and risk his life to go and declare war on Wall Street, to break up the banks, to put hundreds of bankers in jail through the Pecora commissions, to go and undermine the London. You know, the Bank

of England was initiating its own solution to the Great Depression in 32, 33, called the London conferences on banking and economic reform. And these conferences were essentially designed to create a one-world government under the League of Nations based on a eugenics high priesthood, which was very likely going to be the way that things were going to go. Every nation, all 64 nations who participated all said, okay, we'll go along with that because the Depression became global. The British Empire was still the global hegemon. It wasn't the U.S. dollar yet.

It was still the British pound. That was the center of global finance. City of London then, just like today, was still the center of world finance. And the Great Depression that they orchestrated artificially was something that they all also wanted to solve. And the only nation to pull out of it was the United States that Franklin Roosevelt just said, we're going to pull all of our delegations. We're not going to cooperate. We're not going to sign anything. And without the U.S. participation, the whole thing tanked, thank God while he was simultaneously declaring war. Now, if you didn't have a character with that

type of willingness to fight and die in risk and you had a lesser person, then that that Great Depression could have easily have been solved by some form of. hard fascism as well. And there was no shortage of fascist organizations trying to capitalize on people's despair. In Quebec, we had Adrian Arcon. The Quebec Nazi party was very big. You had the, I mentioned the League for Social Reconstruction, the Canadian Fabian Society for calling for a scientific management of Canada run by six Rhodes Scholars back in 31, 32. We had the fascist international, very, very baked in as funded by Wall Street and the, the, the, the American Liberty Leagues back in the United States, also pushing their own candidates to

bring in an American version of Nazi fascism. The Nazi party of the United States had huge penetration in Washington, D.C. Madison Square Garden had dozens of events featuring like 40,000 people with like Nazi flags hanging right next to George Washington and the U.S. flag. And that was like the promise that if we go if we go fascist, everyone will get some bread and you could feed your family, not die of starvation. maybe you'll get a job and like Mussolini's making trains run on time. So can we. And people were kind of buying that, you know, so that was a direction we could have gone to.

You know, Technocracy Inc was a growing thing for that reason. So this question of balancing like suffering to shake people up versus like killing the people you want to shake. But it's a tough one. I don't know how to play that game. It's well, you offer you offer me some hope too because I'm like, you know, it's like, well, how do you get to those points? Well, people got to be in pain, right? Where, where, you know, you, you, you just rattle off, or everything you just rattle off. It's like, well, what put them there? They wanted bread, right?

Like, pretty simple things. And yet, it could have went so dark. And instead, it went a different way. And to me, that, I don't know, that, that gives a guy a lot of hope, doesn't it? I think it does. Like, there's this, the fact that humans are, fundamentally good. We fundamentally have this core drive to want to take care of our families or society or nation. Like that's a that's a metaphysical sort of baked into being human. And

sometimes we just need to be reminded that that that's there. We, you know, I think the consumer society that we were born into has made a lot of us soft and out of touch with our deeper humanity. So I think a little bit of a little bit of that, that fear, that fear of God. is something, like you said, it's creating a demand. There's more of a hunger. I look at my website. It's spiking an activity in ways I've never seen before. You know, there's people searching now for bigger questions than they'd ever thought to pose.

That's good. So, you know, to the degree that that thirsted there and that there are people who are still capable of organizing and conspiring to make good things happen as well as bad things because both humanity is the creature that conspires. we we have ideas about where we believe things should go and then we try to build relationships of people who can think on the same line as as we do or have some resonance and we work to make something happen for good or for unfortunately it's it's more often than not been for bad the bad guys are better are are better at conspiring than the good than the good people have

been so it's a lesson we need to to learn fast how to how to do this well but I look at Alberta and I get a lot of hope. You know, I often speak to groups in Alberta and I, and these are some of the most moral competent people that I, I have encountered. So, you know, that gives me hope for, I looked at the Freedom Convoy was a bit of a paradigm changer for me too. I didn't think that Canadians could do things like that. So, you know, you don't want to do the same thing twice in a row. The oligarchy will, will adapt. It's like the Borg. You know, you could shoot them and kill them once, but as soon as you try to, to use the same, the same technique to kill the Borg the second time, they're already adapted, you know, so you

got to kind of be still a bit creative and flexible. It's true, but I mean, if you, uh, if you just roll up big machinery across a highway, they were not moving it. Yeah. I mean, I mean, like, and, and you know, can one person do that? No, I mean, but you, you put a thousand there. Yeah. I mean, really, you know, like somebody said to me today, if they come to take Chris

Barber's Big Red, there should be 30,000 people standing around and going, you're not taking it anymore. Right? And to me, when you have that level of conviction, and that's what we saw on the freedom convoy, right? We saw people desperate, and then they saw this glimmer of hope, and they chase that glimmer of hope. They chased it right across the country.

And when they got there, they parked their truck and didn't, I mean, literally that's all it was. No, we're not moving. And I saw, I saw, you know, those people are difficult in the best possible way, right? No, I'm not moving. Yeah. I'm not moving. You could be arrested.

that's fine I'm not moving and like I just had Randy Hillier on and and I mean that guy's been doing it for over 20 years yeah right early 2000s that guy's like one of the the OGs of being a protester here in Canada and I mean there was been more than him because obviously that's just in 20 years there's been more than that but like I hear him you know when we were on our way to uh Ottawa I had uh an uncle call me and he was talking about back in the day in the 80s when they they backed up a grain truck to where Pierre Elliott was staying in Saskatchewan filled the hotel lobby full of grain. And you go like, oh, there's some original badasses here. And we keep saying out here, right? We come from this line of people who came to specifically here in Alberta, Saskatchewan to the worst place on planet Earth pretty much.

I mean, it's beautiful. But like 100 some years ago, I mean, you're living in, like one of the stories I've read from our area is he came here, couldn't get his house up. fast enough. So they lived in a tent, him, his wife and three kids in minus 40 until they, until spring came so they could finish building. I'm like, that is some hearty people, man. And we've been softened up 100% hard not to when you can drive everywhere and you get a cell phone, you know, like the games on and Netflix and just go on and on and on and on. But that's, that's in the line. If they could do it with their lines, right? Oh, all the

evil and everything else. It's like, I don't know. I, as dark as I get, I get annoyed with the darkness because I'm like, only takes a little bit of light and the whole room's bright. And you're just like, what are we, what are we worried about? You know? Yeah, that's a good point, man. That, that was actually one of the things that that really got me excited about being an activist in Canada back in 2008, I had met Randy Hillier at a conservative convention in Ontario. And it was right at the moment that he organized this massive encirclement of the legislature with a bunch of friends that just organized through the Landowners Association, the Ontario landowners, which at the time he was involved with.

And they just made it happen and put a lot of pressure. Just like you said, just putting their bodies ready. Well, in this case it wasn't their bodies. It was their tractors right. right into it. And good old-fashioned brute force, you know, nonviolent, but just nonviolent brute force worked pretty well at bringing some attention to issues that nobody want to talk about. And so you're right. You're right. I think that that's a, that's a tool we always have. It requires, you know, again, just a bit of courage and knowing that you've got to

stand together. As Ben Franklin said, you hang together, you hang separately. The empire likes to control us through divide to conquer into discouraging us from getting our bodies out there. thinking that we're all, you know, it's just us. Like, there's no point trying because they'll just crush us the second we leave the door. But it's like, it's, that, that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you get everybody to think that, and nobody leaves their house. But, you know, again, the trucker convoy was a big, a big wake-up call for a lot of people who felt like they were alone isolated islands and then discovered that, oh, seven million Canadians think just like them and have all been so terrorized into shutting up and self-censoring that we didn't realize. That we didn't realize,

everybody thinks the same way. The Cornerstone Forum happening May 10th in Alberta, right? Calgary, you're going to be there speaking along with a whole cast of characters. I talked to a couple from Ontario and they were talking to me and like, you know, how many people are going to be there? And I'm like, well, looks like around 600, give or take. And they're like, they said, what? And I'm like, what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, they're coming in from all over the place, like all over Canada. through the states i believe some overseas you know like it's it's going to be you're like everybody out of here thinks we're nuts and i'm like oh that's part of what the forum's all about you know we're going to have some interesting discussion on stage or is everybody going to agree probably not and i probably don't want everybody to agree i like when there's a little bit of back and forth and some new thoughts and some push on some thoughts and everything else but i think um everybody's going to respect one another and then in the crowd it's this eclectic

group of people don't want to connect with people. That's what building communities all about. So it's getting around one another and hearing some different ideas and what are you doing over there? Oh, should try that. And you know, like if there's anything that shook out of COVID, there's lots of great things that shook out of COVID. But for me, like the importance of community and how little at times we have of it has just been hard to watch, right? And we got to find ways to build that back to to to i hate using that term build it back anyways now take it back man take it back it's all right to use this sequence of words take it back better no i don't know i i i i think that yeah look i i i remember in the 90s i uh our family reunions you know our family was a much more

together unit it was highly much more functional it was dysfunctional but functionally dysfunctional and it was fun you know and there were is always people coming through, friends of the family, cousins. There was like more of a vibrancy. And, you know, now I wake up in the morning. I didn't have one of these things until 2005 or six or something is when I got my first thing. And I could feel it.

I mean, I even see just... 2011, I beat you. You're a holdout, eh? I was a holdout. Oh. No, I was, I was weak. But, I mean, the original one, I only, I could even go online my first one. I had the flip phone, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Star Trek phone. But, yeah, like, I could, you see now even at, my, my, you know, Christmas gatherings, things like that, you know, my family can still get together, but the vibrancy is, is much lower. A lot of the younger people are on these things a lot more. I'm on these things as well, you know, like I check out my thing. I wake up in the morning. I check, you know, my social media, things like that. So it definitely, people have been more atomized, digitized and atomized more than is, these things should be helpful tools, but not,

not to the point that it inhibits us from being human. So I think you're right. just being able to get out there with other human beings in the flesh in the real world to share ideas is is like nothing you can get from a Facebook interaction or something like that and to think and to know you're sitting in a crowd and are there a couple people sitting there and they're looking around going man these people are crazy oh probably but but the for the most part you're showing up to this event because you want to hear these open discussions and you know you're not crazy and you just want to hear the discussion and um I think for a lot of us not for me because you know I sit here and I know for you as well as well as well as you know I'm Well, you get to go on a ton of shows. You have your own. You're writing books. You're researching. You're talking to lots of interesting people. But for people driving around listening, they get to listen to a bunch of different thoughts.

But to be in the room when all these conversations are going on, look over at a table. And there's Matt Errant. Oh, look over there. There's Tom Luong. Oh, there's Alex Crane. Oh, did you see Martin Armstrong walk in? You know, like all these names, not to mention some of the wonderful Canadians that are going to be there in Trek Prodneck and Jamie Sinclair military guys or Kaelin Ford doing wonderful things with classical education and, and like on and on and on

it goes. And then be like, who's this Bob guy over here? And you start talking to him and he'll probably have a more interesting story than any of us. And you're like, oh, this is, this is, this is wonderful. Whereas, you know, you go to some, I'm just, you know, like, I can't remember the last convention I went to. But, you know, like, some of the politics stuff that I go to, I'm just like, oh, my God. this is so awful.

I'm like, you know, and I aim to be the complete opposite of that. I aim to inspire, honestly, and people showing up inspires me to keep going with it. Yeah, man, that's beautiful. I'm really looking forward to this. This is the first time I've actually gotten to participate in one of your, one of your forums. And yeah, it's, I'm super stoked. Again, just the, I, that's probably the most gratifying. thing, just being able to be a journalist and find myself with some thoughts that people find

some value in and getting invited to speak and build relationships with so many thoughtful people. It's really, it's been good food for the soul as well as just interfacing, because you're looking, I'm primarily interfacing with people who care about ideas and care about humanity. And despite all of the differences of opinion on elements and predicates, there's this common thing. And everyone that I speak to generally have broken free of normieism to varying degrees. And so there's like this ability to speak on a much higher level in a normal. And I take that for granted, like how going back in my memory banks a little bit when I was stuck working in a cubicle job, having a self-censor, you know, having to speak with on a

whisper level when I do when there was somebody else who, who I know had a common geopolitical worldview as I do. And we had to like go into the staircase and like whisper, you know, our, our, our chats about politics and Trump and Putin, but in quiet. Because if anybody could overhear us, we might be brought in front of a committee. Because it was at a university we were working at, you know? And so it was very isolating and very suffocating. And so I totally get it, like to be able to put your, to create situations for yourself to be able to breathe. Like we're talking about, you know, sometimes you only appreciate oxygen when you, when you've been deprived of it for a while.

Same thing. This is like the oxygen for the soul is talking about truth. That's a very good point. Because one of the things through COVID, when I was working, there was an oil field, and it just slowly dwindled. At the end where I was at, there was two of us, right? And that was really difficult. When you talk about being just able to just let it out,

they just want to be able to say what I want to say without a repercussion. It was, those were tough days, you know. And the oxygen is a very good, picture to paint because I think so many of us towards the end you're just like well this never end well it just never end and then of course you know the convoy happens and that's why it exploded in my opinion

because everybody wanted a little oxygen I just want to just be myself but I have to self-censor so much at work and you can feel it creeping in all over again right like I mean look at look at we're supposed to have an election where you know you can love or hate the conservatives.

I say this over and over and over again. You know, but you're supposed to have, like we can't vote the liberals back in. Like, are we insane? And yet, it looks like the liberals have a real shot.

And I mean, you go back to where we started this conversation. You hear what he's tied to, and I'm like, more than a shot, folks. Like, I don't want to believe,

there's just part of this, part of my brain is I don't want to believe that, you know, what was the name that came up on the one of the live? streams. He's the dark lord, you know, the dark lord of Britain. It's like, I don't want to believe he's that nefarious of a human being. And yet, I listen to you and rattle it off. And it's like, it's so plain. It's sitting right there. You mean like Voldabor? Voldemore from Harry Potter? Or you mean? Yeah. Yeah. That's what you meant? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, kind of, eh?

Yeah, even on it, on every level, he just fails the morality test. And I mean, this is the worst type of human being to possibly allow anywhere near political, culturally, I mean, the guy, the guy put his daughter into Tabistock, the Tabistock clinic for gender realignment and has made that the point that, you know, one of his top priorities is going to be to provide every family and, you know, the opportunity to turn their kid into the opposite gender if they want to. Or if they're encouraged to do so or groomed to do so by whatever armada of new, you know, ideological mercenaries will be employed to, to advise them in schools, you know.

So it's just wrong on so many levels. And it helps to, for me, it's all about print. Like I try to think about universals a lot. Like what's universally always true? And use that as my starting point when I start an analysis. And there's something about the oligarchical way of organizing society and conceptualizing what humans are, which is always true, whether it's ancient Babylon or ancient, you know, the high priesthood running Rome into an empire or. or today's empire. It's the same thing. They view human beings as talking cows to be controlled by a masterclass of alphas. That's all they do. And then, and then, you know, the thing that

they're afraid of is always the same thing. The more truthful idea of natural law, and irregardless of whether we're looking at the history of like how this manifested in the fight for emancipation in India, ancient India, or we look at it in China in its deep history, or you look at it in the Western Matrix. It's always the same character, though it has different. different words, different forms, different, you know, different flavors based on the culture. But it's always the same thing. There's an idea of human beings made in the image of some quality of moral, creative, reasonable force, God, Allah, whatever. I mean, it's, but there's the idea of this good, loving, reasonable creator that made us in the image that gives us certain inalienal rights, which it's our responsibility to, to defend and uphold and improve upon those rights, you know, through a political process.

process through an educational process that we're supposed to fight for and improve as well. So whenever that happens, the oligarchy loses their influence and humanity wins. We improve our lot in life. The oligarch, you know, the idea of the Malthusian, you know, law of depopulation or overpopulation based on the idea of, you know, humans will always over, overpopulate, overreproduce to the point that they are going to create a pressure. on the bounty of nature, which will always necessarily result in a collapse unless the oligarchy can reduce our population under a masterclass. That idea will not apply. That formula breaks down

if we're always encouraging new discoveries, new applications that allow us to leap outside of the limits to growth so that we can support more people. You know, 100 years ago in Canada, where I live, the average life expectancy was about 43 years of age in 190. too. Today it could go as, you know, to 81, 82 on average. You could still live over 100. You know, of course, COVID cut cut a couple of years off that. But, but that's because we were a lot, we fought for at different times, the right to make new discoveries increase and improve upon the productive process. And the oligarchy hates it when we do that. Because again, we prove that we're not just another animal to be managed by a master class. Rabbits and wolves,

they have those problems. They will, their populations will collapse when there's a drought. They will, their populations will grow when there's bounty. But they're not going to create a hydroelectric dam to create, they're not going to discover electricity or create flood controls or put food on the side in case there's a drought. They won't do that. And that's fine.

They're animals, that they're good in their own way, but they won't do what humans can do when we're not adapting to an oligarchy. So that's, that's the, that's the universals I always try to hold on to. And I try to feed back into my analysis of particular. you know, whether I'm like, what is Carney represented? What's going on with the different, the different identities within the United States below us? What about Alberta? What's going on there?

How can we use this to help chart out something better, knowing that there are these universal principles at play? Let me, how long have you been back in Montreal now? Has it been a week? About a week. About a week. What's the vibe there like when it comes to the election? You know, like, because I can feel the vibe out here in Alberta.

And then, you know, I try and piece together as many people traveling and seeing what they see and hearing the conversations they hear. And we've been chatting, you know, like it was just last week talked with a guy from Nova Scotia. And then obviously Randy Hillier in Ontario, when you're walking around talking to people or seeing things in Montreal, what is the vibe in regards to the election that you see and hear? Well, I work from home as a journalist. So I don't, I don't, and I live in farm country. So I don't go and interface with my fellow Montrealers so much. But I do listen to the radio just to keep my, my fingers on the pulse a little bit. And I'm getting the sense in the federal election that the Block Quebec was going to increase quite a bit of their seats in the federal parliament.

That's not a great. I mean, the Blockhebeau will be useful because they'll tend to not go along with whatever Carney does. But they don't really have a vision. And they're just like, we're going to defend. We're going to be Quebec. We're going to be Quebec, right? They don't care about most anything that doesn't apply directly to Quebec. But it's fine.

You know, they're a disruptive force and that could be fine. There is a, again, the, this fake pseudo-Canadian hubris, this nationalism, has even spreading in a place like Quebec, which you wouldn't expect it to as much, based on the the discourse of the 51st state thing, the U.S. going all jungle west to, you know, take over Greenland and Canada and the Panama Canal and all that stuff.

So it's kind of like awakening this subconscious sort of thing that's even baked in in its own particular way into the psyche, the zeitgeist of the Quebecois. So I fear that the liberals might even win big here since they're being championed as the only ones who could really stand up properly to the big bad U.S. imperialists. I wouldn't be surprised if that also happens, unfortunately. I'm endorsing the PPC.

You know, like that's my, this year, that's what I'm pushing on it. Some of the best people I know are members of that PPC personally. I'm not a big fan of Bernier. But I like those, most of the best people that I know as organizers, activist citizens, who are the most moral, strong people, are find themselves as members of that party. And I endorse them. I'd like them to be members of parliament, to be able to stand up and speak truth to so-called power. So I'm going to endorse that.

I think that, you know, there would be, if Trump had just shut the hell up about the whole 51st day thing, I think that the conservatives would have a much more likely shot. And within that context, there's much more, there's many more business interests that want to do deals and would be much more open to, to making, you know, make facilitating, you know, some serious economic transactions.

So then it comes back around. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny. I didn't see the conversation going here over and over again. But when you, when you, when you look at it and lots of Canadians have thought this. It's like, Trump would just shut up. Yeah.

Conservatives are winning. I think that's what we're saying, right? Yeah. Yeah. So then you go, the liberals are brilliant because they knew Trump couldn't handle them. You know, just, just because if you go down the line, it isn't Trump who says Canada wouldn't have a country, right? It's, it's Justin Trudeau, right? He's the one who says that to Trump when they start talking about tariff.

So if you go down that line, you realize how and I hate this sentence, but how smart the liberals are. They literally looked at Donald Trump when this is how he's going to react. We're going to send you down there. You're going to say this. we're going to put you in a spot where you can cross your legs funny and you can have your fancy socks and all the things and Donald Trump is going to eat your lunch and then it's going to blow up and because of that you're going your way out anyways and we're going to bring in Mark Carney like that honestly when you sit back and think about that folks just for a hot saying that is that is that is it love or hate the liberals that's brilliant I mean why why is why is Trump still, why is Trump still pushing on it? Why is Trump, you know, like, and I haven't heard him push on it, I don't think, recently, but certainly for how many weeks after was it where he was still just on and on and on? And heck, half of Canada was, you know, there was a bunch of Canadians.

Oh, this is amazing, but then it just kept going and going. And now Canada and China, there only two, only two to hit him back with reciprocal tariffs. Did I say that right? I think it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, it did its damage. That's for sure.

I've sort of come to see most of Canada as Kabuki Theater most of the time throughout our history, unfortunately. There was, I think the last time that I saw or recognized any type of authentic care for the interests of Canada as a nation and its people in a in a confused, messed up way. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to put Jean-Cretzini up there into some hero status. I'm not. But again, old school, you know, the guy's like, what, 96 years old now or something?

He's from the old school of statecraft that saw it best to avoid things like World War III in order to do deals because that's bad for business when you kill all your customers. He didn't want to get Canada dragged into bombing countries. We had no business bombing like Iraq. So he said no, even though there's a lot of pressure. there was like, you know, pressure put long-range missiles in the Canadian Arctic by Dick Cheney in 2004-2015. And him and his network said they pushed back. It took courage. It took courage to even tell Conrad Black to say, you know, you want to be a British lord.

Well, go to go live in England. Give up your Canadian citizenship, you know. And that took courage. Conrad Black didn't represent a little thing. But all that to say, that's gone. I mean, that got purged by in large from any position of actual having influence. And now, ironically, 20 years later, Justin Trudeau, who was installed as part of this reform, you know, during the Harper years, that was the period you had this sort of palace coup inside of the liberal party where a more technocratic ideological system was brought in. People who would think like Christia Freeland and her Oxford buddy.

I mean, Christia is a Rhodes Scholar as well, right? her and Carney father or godfather of her child. That type of character was made more the official handler of the entire party and its internal culture during the Harper years. And now ironically, Justin Trudeau, April of 2024, does what Chrissier fought against, which is inviting, you know, U.S. military industrial contractors to come in and build a long-range ballistic missile. system in the Canadian Arctic as part of like this new Arctic defense doctrine that was put up in that year. I don't know how far it is and being built, but they agreed upon it,

which would normally have been political suicide most of the time for 20 years. And all of a sudden it's done under the radar. Nobody's talking about that. And in preparation for some so-called inevitable war with Russia and or China in the Arctic, where there's, you know, this new bounty of economic activity going on in Eurasia in the Arctic. And, and, So Canada is playing a geopolitically useful but also dangerous role, especially for Canadians who are not going to benefit by any of these things. We're not going up there to develop the resources, which there's an abundance of resources. We could be doing all sorts of really cool things with other nations that want to have a future

and want to develop a real, like do business. But we're not. We're seeing them as like they're targeted for an oncoming war against so, you know, the so-called hegemon. So Carney's not against that. he seems to be going along with that too. Wait, wait. You said nobody's talking about it.

I'm like, I have no idea what you just talked about. The Arctic and missiles, what are you talking about? Oh, there's a new Arctic defense doctrine put past in April of 2024 by Justin Trudeau. I mean, he signed it off on it. I think he doesn't create anything. And within that Arctic defense doctrine, it called for the installation of long-range missiles in the Canada Arctic, which yeah it's part of a war plan it's part of the full spectrum dominance strategy is circling Russia and China with with long-range missiles that's been going on since 2006

so the Arctic defense doctrine and that and that's in partnership with the US or is this just us on our own no it's partnership with the US I think I think it plays in see this is the thing I think it plays in you know when when Trump started calling calling for a an iron dome around North America. Then I think it was rebranded a few weeks later to a different kind of dome. Victory dome or something, or Golden Dome.

I thought it was, I thought it was, now I have somebody yelling at the speaker because they know exactly, I thought it was Fortress North America. Hmm? Wasn't it a portrait? Was that the name?

I think it was Fortress North America, was that? That's a terrible name. No, there was another dome idea. I can, here, I'll just Google it. Trump. dome shield America what it's called golden dome yeah so he changed it so it's called the iron dome yeah so it's first called the iron dome modeled on the the Israeli iron dome you know the missile shield around Israel designed to yes so that that was the

idea is to take that and make a North American iron dome and people I guess thought that that was a bad optic so they were like let's rename it the Golden dome instead and so now it's called the Golden Dome but it's the same idea and it falls in to alignment with that in a, and I think, a way that that's a bit dangerous and against the interests even of Americans who wouldn't benefit by that type of thing. But yeah, I mean, it's, again, for me, like the Arctic is such a, it's such an important part of human history and the development, the fight over whether that's going to become a theater for cooperation or whether a platform for war is a big deal.

And the oligarchy thinks about the Arctic a lot as sort of the final front. here on the earth. And it would be so good if we could just like pick up where Lincoln and Zara Alexander II and Nicholas the second and FDR and Wall, you know, his vice president in the 40s where they left off, which was to open it up or Defenbaker even, John Defenbaker with his, his northern vision. Now, W.A.C. Bennett with his, his, uh, peace river development strategy to connect, you know, rail into Alaska. That all of that stuff was, is part of our heritage part of the the real pioneering native heritage we could be really proud of and we're not we're sort of still too disconnected from that better heritage and so we're not seeing the arc for what it

is though the oligarchy is they think about it so much but they want they want to make sure that that we you know that it that it stays untouched by anything good and instead is only allowed to be used for for warfare and that's it yeah and every time you come on i'm like uh i hear new things i'm like i don't don't even know what to do with it. Is there anything we haven't talked about? You're like, we got to talk about this before May 10th. Anything and, you know, like even before the election, you know, April 28th is only, you know, as people are listening, it's 11 days away. Is there anything in between here and there, you're like, we better bring this up or can people just go, Matt Earth in Alberta, which he is, May 10th, which he is, and just show up there and

here, hopefully, I'm looking forward to your keynote speech, but, you know, Is there anything before you head to this hopefully warming up land of Alberta that you want to get across to the audience? Yeah. Well, I like the idea of a little bit of a cliffhanger and as hopefully, you know, less is more. And hopefully that will make people want to come down. Or if they didn't already have that that nudge that they needed, hopefully this might help a little bit some people out there. But yeah, no, I think that we have potential. We have so much potential, right?

It's crazy how much potential we have. As humans, as Canadians, just look at this giant territory. Most of it is untouched. You know, most of our civilizations just wrapped 100 kilometers from the U.S. border in like seven major cities. And I mean, we could really, it's a creative playground. of that would cause an educated moral imagination to just really have a field date as far as really like just going back to the greatest ideas that could could be revived in a 21st century context. You know, the mid-Canada development corridor idea. I'm actually going to be bringing some booklets featuring a bit, you know, a program for Canada in the 21st century and beyond to try to just inspire some conversations amongst, especially policymakers, but just active as citizens as well around like what's what's not being discussed that we could. offer to the world and to our kids.

So that's something that I'll have a few, you know, a dozen copies which people could pick up. I'll be selling them, but, you know, they can pick them up at the, at your event, if that's okay. Absolutely. You got a,

you got a booth there. I got a booth? Hey, yeah, yeah, you do. Okay, there'll be a lot more books too then in that case. Ha-ha.

But, but, yeah, no, I think that we're, but we're really at a place where we have to make a decision about what do we want, what do we want to be as a society, as a species even, because we're really, I believe, on the verge of a potential collapse, a dark age, on the

one hand, looking at some of the toxic ideas being enforced onto us and that many good people are being tricked into going along with that could undo so much that great potential. On the other hand, I think there is a desire to survive and to thrive. And so I'm hoping that have to feel too much pain. But you're, you know, you've given me something to think about when you were saying, like, maybe it's, maybe, you know, in our exasperation, maybe people just need to have a carny, just do a terrible thing to Canada for people to finally stand up and say, no more, we're not going to take it anymore. I hope that that's not the case. Well, I mean, in one hand, you hope, you hope that's all it takes, right? Yeah.

We've had our taste of authoritarianism and all the things. On the flip side, I have, bred solgenitin and I'm like or you know are we heading into like 60 years of 80 years of you know or are we the slaves in Egypt and it's like 400 years you know like I can go dark I don't want to go dark I don't I prefer not to go dark I prefer to be you know shine some light and hopefully we don't need to go into those types of like madness and dark days hopefully it doesn't need to be hundreds of years of just absolute purgatory of, you know, living hell every day, right? Like, to me, there's so much good in the world already.

And, you know, you just got to stand for it. And I'll say this, you know, like for people who want to maybe talk about some of the battle lines where I've seen some more evidence of factions representing power groups in humanity where I see a fitness to survive. And I agree with Alex Craneer and Luongo on this point, is I, I've mapped out as much as I can so far. I'm still working on it. Various deep state structures, the fifth columnists embedded within Russia, within China, within India, within some of the Middle Eastern countries through the Muslim Brotherhood factions. And, you know, there is, there are patriots. There's organized patriotic movements that I think

have done a better job than we have in the West at extracting. at doing battle with their deep state structures. And when I look at the, you know, those interests in civilizational interests, especially that want to avoid World War III, that want to reject the big depopulation agenda, there is a lot to work within Eurasia, but there's a cloudiness. There's a lot of misinformation too. So maybe at your conference, that's going to be a point. We could chat with the audience.

People want to talk more about that. but I think that gives me a lot of hope as well for those who would like to create creative flanks to help us also purge this deep state complex that's embedded itself within our, you know, the fiber of our shadow governments in the West. I think that there's a lot to work within Eurasia though that people don't fully appreciate.

So, yeah. Well, Matt, we're looking forward to having you out in Alberta and look forward to hearing what you got to say. Either way, thanks for hopping on today. And while, we'll see you here in a few weeks. Absolutely. All right, looking forward to it.