Shaun Newman Podcast - #849 - Vesper

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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He's a brand designer, and during lockdowns, he started Vesper Digital on X with the purpose of exposing the government and getting Justin Drew out of office. I'm talking about Vesper. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Numa podcast today.

I am joined by Mr. Vesper. Sir, thanks for answering the last minute text. I appreciate it. As I was telling you before we started, I'm, you know, after we did the 12 hour live stream,

me and twos were talking and I didn't feel right for probably four days. It wasn't like I was, you know, like there was anything wrong with me. And I don't even mean the liberals winning. I just mean like the attention to detail, all the guests coming on, 12 hours of live streaming. It was an Uber success and I appreciate you being on for that.

I thought we did. I thought I got a lot of great feedback from the time you and others were on, not to mention the rest of guess. But then it just like went right into, you know, I was 11 days away from an event. And I mean, I was saying he before. Like I just, it's like I, it's like I unplugged from everything because my sole focus was making sure I didn't screw it up. And so I appreciate you coming on. I'm looking forward to a friendly chat. I want to know what Vesper's thoughts on 11 or, well, what were over that? Two weeks of Carney Rain and the new appointments and everything else. But how's Vesper doing?

Vesper's fine. He's surviving this. I'm not as catastrophically devastated, even though I know it's not probably in Canada's best interest. I haven't pulled away from politics. What I've done is I've kind of just reframe the situation for myself where I'm like, all right, it's not so much that I've had to realize a few things. It's not so much that the politicians or the government or any of these people are mostly the problem. I realize that there's a lot of mental capture and a lot of people are just going to vote liberal. It doesn't matter what you show

them. I literally have on my ex, by the way, Sean, and for anyone that's watching this, If you go down, I have a clip that shows like five people from BC in the Trudeau era where, remember the blackface scandal, the SNC scandal and everything? Just five people that I've labeled Idiot 1, Idiot 2, Idiot 3. No matter what you show them, they just play it off. Like there's actually a girl. I think it was idiot number two, I think, where she was like, you know, I really like how we handled the SNC Lavalance scandal.

You know, he owned up to it and everything. Yeah, never mind that he broke like two laws. Never mind that the ethics came. There's just going to be people that don't care. They just don't care. And we're so then is it really then the population or isn't, I mean, the politicians or is it not the population that's voting for these people and were gaslit properly? They did, I don't think they did a very good PR campaign, the Carney team.

I think they got a tremendous amount of help from Trump. who played up all those fears. And again, I can't prove it, but I'm sure China played a massive role also in the funding. Turned out that they had one of the biggest blitz funding campaigns ever. In the back of my mind, I think, and one of the things we can talk about a little bit is about Pierre going into podcasts and stuff, which is another thing that people were talking about. I actually agree with his, uh, strategic. strategic PR team about not going on very, well, what is now perceived as right-leaning,

for example, like Joe Rogan, right? He wasn't, he's not a right-leaning guy, but all the Maga-Bros are now like Joe Rogan, because, I mean, after all, mega-bros are all into M-MA, you know, so all the people that are asking, why didn't you go on Joe-Rog? I think we could talk about that, too. So I'm not, I'm not catastrophizing. And you know my stance as a believer, as a Christian, God is still on his throne.

It don't matter who's running the show. Ultimately, it's his call. And for me anyways, I'll talk just for me. And I'm not preaching at people here. Although I would certainly hope that some people would hear my rationale, those that do believe. Ultimately, it's his say. Nothing happens without his say.

And I think I've had to reconcile with that, even though I don't agree with it. Yeah, well, it's sitting here. We agree, you know, on the, the biggest point I think you just said, which is, you know, I'm not, I'm not sitting here like catastrophize. I'm not worried about, you know, like, I said this on stage, okay? I actually pulled up my speech that I wrote and said at the start of the cornerstone form. And I quoted Proverbs twice. I've been reading Proverbs every single day, matching up the day to the proverb and reading it because, you know, to anyone listening who's never picked up the Bible.

You just go pick up Proverbs. Just flip to Proverbs and start reading that book, sorry. And you're like, holy crap. Like, this is, just implement these things into your life. And things will get drastically better immediately. And one of the things that, you know, I prayed about it before I went on stage, about it, the morning of actually, on the 10th. And in that proverb, it said when the storm has swept by the wicked or gone, but the righteous stand firm forever. And I was thinking about it, you know, and I'm like, I have.

I have very little control over who gets elected. I think we're seeing that, right? Like, obviously the show helps people get informed and other shows as well. You're talking to like a big, whether it's an issue or just a, just we're, we're starting to see what society is in Canada and they're voting liberal no matter what happens. And there's on the flip side, there's people vote conservative that no matter what happens, right? And when I read the, when I read the Bible, I'm like, you know, I could stress about it or I can just

pay attention what's going on, continue to point out what's wrong in the world, and try and highlight some wonderful things that are happening in the world, too, because there is great things going on. And I don't know, like... Well, you know, on that point, my wife and I, we were talking the other day about this whole idea of election, voting, and we had this talk about, you know, that famous scene where, like, and again, back to Jesus, where he was brought out with the Roman, Roman,

pilot where he was brought out before pilot where they wanted to kill him so he's like you know what how about I just bring out a complete criminal dirtbag yeah and how about I bring out Jesus the guy you know fed all these people healed all these people best of humanity versus the worst and then he goes I'm not gonna dirty my hands I'm washing my hands of this let them pick and it was really funny because he lost a vote but when you read it it's because there was so much influence and threats by the government at that time of like the Sanhedrine that would say anyone that votes for this guy you're not allowed to come anymore into the synagogues. So there was a lot of coercion going on and he lost. So if the son of God, the probably the greatest

figure arguably without argument, sorry, throughout history, right? The one where our calendars are literally derived from. Like every time you sign a check, every time you check your phone for the date, you just go back that many years, that signals the birth of this person. This person was found guilty and lost a vote. So if the greatest person lost the vote,

am I going to really go into my cave and say the world has ended? No. No. But a lot of fun things have happened since you were gone. I heard it was really successful. Well, one of the things that I agree,

with you actually it was just the brothers and I were talking about this and I'm like and I brought up pilot and Jesus because I'm like literally that's what they did I your stories bang on I'm like yeah I'm like just go read it and you're just like and just think about it I don't I honestly don't care what people I know there's a ton of Christians on this but if you're not and you're just like oh they're talking the Bible can just go read the story and realize what it's talking about and um on stage we had we had Martin Armstrong and he gave me an old Roman coin I was trying to pull up a who it was. I want to say probis, forgive me. He was a general. Anyways, he gave me this old Roman coin because that's how he got his start. And it was super cool moment on stage. And he sent me

the story of him, okay? And it's in the downfall of Rome. And then in walks this figure trying to stabilize it, worrying about peace and economics and all the good things. And he repositions, once he's got things stabilized, he takes Roman army and puts him into public works, like building things and whatever and how does he die because the roman army is upset they're not fighting wars and they kill him like the army and i'm like so like you in my brain i have this you know like utopia now it isn't the communist utopia it's a different one right a peace and everybody getting along and you're starting to finally come to my side you're starting to see what i mean well i mean you've always seen it but i think you fought it i mean you've always been a realist john but are you seeing

what twos when he calls me like the frank castle perspective on things. It's not that I'm I'm cynical or blackpilled, but you're you're starting to wonder like this really good person and then they kill them. And they kill them. And the gaslighting has been happening in politics for thousands of years. This is the beginning of time. Yeah, since like you and I are not, this is why we're not thrown off because we have a, I think, a greater context of humanity when we read things like scripture or history is that we understand. I mean, Nero set fires to Rome purposely so that he could, to blame it on the Christians. Why would you do that?

I asked people what the original false flag was, right? Because false flags, you know, like at the start, you're like, you pick your one. I always go to Lucidania because there's not a whole lot of emotion around that because it's so long ago. And, you know, it's just World War I time, folks. And nobody can get emotional about it because it's so long ago. And I'm like, okay. So for me, that's the easiest false flag because it's been proven. there's literally shells at the bottom of the sea or the ocean

where they can tell you that it was carrying weapons and the German sunken for that reason and it brings the United States into the war. And I'm like, you can't argue it. You could try, but all the facts are right there. Now, have there been false flag since? Oh, for sure. But like, I asked somebody, what's the original false flag?

And one of the guys pointed in a arrow. And I'm like, you go read that. You're like, man, this isn't a new idea. Not that, you know, there is nothing new under the sun. And one of the things I like about Armstrong, wrong, riding around with him for several days and getting to, you know, just pick his wonderful mind is, you know, he likes history and he likes cycles and everything runs on cycles and these different things and, you know, you can believe it or not, but like, you watch this and you're like,

it just human beings, we're just awful to each other at times. I mean, there's a reason why we have the English adage or saying a new, new coat of paint. that infers that it's the same old, same hole with literally a new coat of paint. And this has happened over and over. And people know this. From Machiavelli to all the philosophers, they all knew, right? That this whole thing was corrupt. Two funny things before we get into more contemporary issues.

So my brother, and I'm going to ask him one day if I'm allowed to share his thing, but he's on Instagram. He has a very large following. He's into Egyptology. Okay. And he's not into the alien Egyptology stuff. He's into actual Egyptology. So think Vesper, but think a smarter Vesper when it comes to like archaeology and everything like that, if you could possibly imagine that.

He's patting himself on the back right now, folks. Jokingly, jokingly, yes. So he actually informed me, even back all the way. way back to Egypt. I think it was, I'm not going to say Akhenatan, but it or Imotep. I don't know. The third. So did you know one of the pharaohs in the entire dynasties of pharaohs canceled out the entire body of gods and said there's only one god? Did you know that? He was a monotheist. and he enforced monotheism, look him up. I think it's Imhotep III, okay?

But look him up. So what happens? They kill him. Why did they kill him? Easy. Because if you take away all the gods and you centralize it to one God, all these temples of the God of ISIS, the God of Anubis,

and all these people have no more money. They don't collect offerings anymore. Business becomes centralized to the federal government of under Pharaoh. And now everybody and their gods are offended, but really it's all politics, right? This whole thing is politics. The guy became a monotheist and they killed them because of this. And I find that extremely relevant to this conversation that there's always been politics and there's always going to be gaslighting. There's always going to be friction between people's agendas. And this has shown itself throughout all of history. I mean, we're not going to get into the Bible more, maybe later on, but it's human nature.

Remember how when I first came on your show, we talked about human nature. Humans decide the outcomes they want. It's not like, you know, all these people that say were ruled. Listen, man, if everybody, everybody voted rationally, critically, or understood what they were voting for, beyond their ideology and only worldview. It's people that have the power. There's a line from V for Vendetta. I'm not sure if you ever watched it.

I'm sure you have. Of course. Everybody was watched V. That's a great. It's a great film. So he says when when E.V. Hammond is talking to V. And she says, you know, my parents are afraid. Then V says people should not be afraid of their governments.

Governments should be afraid of their people. And if the people, like in this election, voted close to 50% after 10 years of scandals, then the problem is not the leaders. The problem is not the leaders. It's just not. Well, to bring in another film, I've been, you know, you've seen Godfather, I assume. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I patterned my life after. I'm just kidding. I watched it when I was like 20, I was like 20 because I heard it was like oh this is the greatest film ever and I'm I can

recall my thoughts on it when I was 20 I watched it when I was 20 and I was like it was a good film but it can me just fast forward to the last like I don't know 15 minutes like you know that's that's the best part you know and I don't know why they had to take so long right that's that's roughly a synopsis of Sean watching it I watched the second one when I was 20 I thought the same thing and I didn't watch a third because they were just too slow moving for me fast forward I just turned 39 Vesper and birthday well thank you um and I watched it came on the whatever uh about three months ago and I want I you know I should watch it because I've found you know as I start to see things and understand things I'm just movies have different meetings some of them are really crappy now

some of them are really deep and it's no different than looking at the Bible or any book that I've read in the past if I go back and read it I'm like holy crap that's so right so I started watching the father. And I was on, you know, I don't mean edge of my seat like I was, I was sitting there like, oh my God, I just mean I was into it the entire time. I cannot get past how well written that movie was. And, you know, at the end, spoiler alert, Sonny gets killed, you know, the, not the oldest son, but the second oldest, he's in command of the godfather, you know, the realm of, of the mafia, his, his, uh, sonny is the oldest brother. I thought, no, I thought the one that was, uh, went vague.

Fredo is the second. Okay. So Sonny is the oldest. I got that wrong. Okay. Sonny got killed for his anger issues, but Frato got killed for her. Well, and Sonny is, I, as soon as I was done with it, I'm like, Sonny was me.

Like, I watch it and I'm like, how do you get to somebody who's protected, you know, sitting in this, this castle, you know, guns everywhere but you can't so what do they do they know he's angry they know that he he he he he's if you spur that on he's gonna run out so they they find a way yeah yeah just that just add context to everybody in case you forgot sure sonny has a sister and in the movie the man that married her who married into his that family the corleone family sonny's sister is a corleone that beat her up right early on right and then he he warned him if he David does it again, he'd kill him.

And so the enemies of Sonny or this new godfather. Of the Corleones. Yeah. Paid off that husband to beat up his sister again so that he would, like you said, come out. So that she would call him and tell him what's going on and he would forget the entire situation that walking out the door with nobody around with the sister had nothing to do with this. In fact, she tried to stop him. He was brilliant. Yeah, she tried to stop him. But he, like you said, his anger, they knew that he was very hot.

headed right and so out he goes not thinking about the repercussions races off nobody can get to him and they kill him and you know i go that partially is the canadian population we're we're so easy to offend that you know the the trump thing right what happens everybody turns off critical thinking and goes forget about the last 10 you go how did you forget about the last 10 years well how did sunny forget about the fact he's in the middle of a war and if he steps outside the front gate he's probably dead. Well, he did. Now what he goes. And I'm and and and and and of course, you know, it doesn't matter if it's anger or not. It's emotional reaction. Response. Yeah, without thinking. Yeah. But by the way,

this has been a problem not just on the left, right? On the right, for example, this whole separatism thing. So there are people that are well adjusted in their view of how Alberta must separate. They have valid reasons. They have good reasons. And they have a good strategy. But then you get like the wackadoodles completely like we're going to burn, we're going to lose everything. Our grandkids are going to have to eat soccer shoes. And like they just go completely to that side and they want to trigger a reaction. And it makes no sense. So we're not saying some people overcompensate because particularly in our socialized media world, right, emotions play very big roles in

in whether it'd be becoming popular or inflaming people or inciting people to something. And the rhetoric sometimes goes goes overboard, right? And I think what you and I and maybe many others that are probably listening and watching is that there's always a middle, right? And that middle is often because of the hijack of emotions, right, whether it be in the front, part of the brain, the frontal cortex or in the hippocampus, it overrides reason, right? This is the problem is that, whether it be politicians or bad actors in the population, they know that you can help override reason, right? So look, is Carney, let's use Carney as an example, okay? Is Carney a globalist? Yes. Is Carney selfish? Probably. Is Carney an elite elitist? Yes,

he is. Like, let's go on and on. Okay. But like at the end of the day, the problem is a collective problem, right? If you had never met Mark Carney or seen him on TV or whatever, and then you ran into him into a restaurant, I'm sure he'd be delightful. I'm sure he'd say hi. How are you? Oh, sorry if you bumped into you, right? So to separate what the policies are and what the man is and all these stuff, we need to do that and criticize the policies and the worldview so that we could at least say, all right, in the next four years, let's assume, hypothetically, he actually helps Alberta. I'm not saying he's going to be perfect, but let's say he does. Let's say, I'm not saying, I don't think he will, but let's assume he does. Then what's everyone going to say? Let's say he scraps

the cap on emissions, right? Then what? So nobody entertains these possibilities. They're like very, I don't know if you've noticed this either, Sean. They're very binary. They're all white or all black and nobody entertains. I'm not saying it's not white or black. I'm saying no one entertains. What if there's a between white and black, there's this whole spectrum and you have to decide based on where you believe he's going to land on that spectrum. I mean, if you want to get into it, some of the stuff that he's already done with, and I'm going to send you the link, by the way, just so that we can bring this up to people that are not up to speed. He appointed some new people to his cabinet and I'm going to drop this here in the chat so you if you want to just share it's it's

from cbc um and you can just see some of the names uh of who he dropped now doesn't make him good by the way because he dropped these people but this is just so you can understand like the guy was supporting trudeau from the 2021 fiasco you know of the economy um and that's oh by the way if it's okay with you at some point i also uh i had a something go viral that I want to share and it's about how what happened in the House of Commons that I think you're going to read your viewers need to really hear about remember that whole COVID funding and how we got into this whole inflation and all this stuff and how the bank of Canada came out and said we didn't print money well I didn't crack it but I shine a very big light over this night I'm

hoping today we're going to be able to explain what exactly yeah sure sure here here's let's start here. Here's the article you just said. Carney shows 10 ministers from his first cabinet, the door. Yeah. Jonathan Wilkinson's out. Bill Blair is out. Cody Blua from Ontario.

Ali Alia Lassie. Gone. And some of these people, I mean, they're not big. One of the guys, I don't know if you remember Nathaniel Eskind Smith. This guy got like this guy right there. He got all pouty online.

because like he wasn't offered the position and he got so there there there are some things that have changed and one of the things that I also find fascinating is there's there's a website that I sometimes go to called the logic and I'm going to share this with you also if you don't mind this one and I want you to just kind of look at the first two paragraphs if you want to just read this because I found that super fascinating in why he's beginning to do this. Of course, I need, it won't let, here, give me a sec. I mean, I wish I could read it.

I could just read it to you. It's up to you. Let's see here if I can. I'm sure I can. Okay, here's what it says, folks. Prime Minister Mark Carney unveiled his new team of cabinet, intended to signal a sea change, a major economic files, and departure from former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's version of the liberal government. So that's important.

He's trying to make a departure, right, from like what Trudeau. He's distancing himself from the whole Trudeau thing, hoping that the liberal brand will recover. And look what he does. Oh, and then it doesn't, it doesn't give me any more than that. Well, let me read the rest. You read the rest. Yeah, Carney appointed 15 new faces to his inner cabinet circle of 28 ministers and created 10 new roles for junior ministers that he calls secretaries of state. Okay. A convention not used since Stephen

Harper was prime minister. Okay. Several of the other appointees are are new not only to cabinet, but to federal politics. Many of Trudeau's stalwart ministers remained in. However, including Trudeau's former deputy prime minister, Christian Friedan, our government will deliver its mandate, blah, blah, blah. Point is, you can see a shift. You can see a shift. in the way that he's perceived or his team has perceived, that there's clearly a majority of the population that does not like that you've distanced yourself from Harper and gone to the Trudeau side.

Now that you're in power, let's win those people back by trying to pattern some things after the Harper government, right? And I find that fascinating because that would imply that either he's completely faking this, which is a very big possibility. Or he's trying to come off as a centrist. Does that make sense? Like is he shooting back like pre-Harper days

where the liberals were centrist? I'll tell you why. He hasn't brought up LGBT the way Trudeau has. Trudeau was doing it like he was being sponsored by it. Okay. He's not pushing, let's say, what do you call it? Remember when Zoltan asked him that question at the debate when he asked him about like how many sexes are there?

He says male female. Right? Even though he has a son-daughter that's trans, he comes out and says male-female. In what world after the last decade of a liberal party that's been pushing this whole thing, does a new prime minister come in and suddenly just revoke all of that and just say, yeah, it's male-female. You know, even after the next question, he struggled. That's where Alex kind of got him, you know, about safe spaces for women and everything. But it's coming off like his campaign team is nothing like Trudeau's campaign team. Now, I don't know if it's by design, if this whole thing was one big, you know, call it whatever you want, you know, false flag.

Like maybe he was always behind it. Maybe he still believes in it. But he understands the country's been divided because of Trudeau. And this is not going to help the liberal stay in power. He's got to bring back the other side somehow to the middle or a closer. to the left, right? Maybe he, his team is like, let's give them what they want. Let's throw them their little crumbs, you know, let's tell them it's just men and woman, right? We're not going to cancel pride or anything like that. We're just not going to push it as much. Let's not talk about

gender affirming surgeries, publicly anyways. Let's just do all these things to quell the conservatives. And so some of the people that he did bring in, for example, and I just recently posted it, he's brought in some indigenous peoples into his minutes into his cabinet that's pertinent considering this whole separation thing that's been happening and how the indigenous are all complaining and blah blah blah blah blah about separating alberta and whatever and he's there's a meticulous amount of moves he's brought in seven sorry a quarter of his uh a quarter of his cabinet is from quebec so he's singed He's satiating the French side.

He's satiating the indigenous. He brought in, I think a first, I forget what her name was, but a African-Canadian or black woman that's in his cabinet. And it's like, it's almost like he's just checking off boxes. Not that there's anything wrong with any of these people being in cabinet, but it's almost like he's just checking off these boxes and coming off more centrist and less radicalized. the only thing that still doesn't make sense is how the hell is Stephen Giebaud still in the government. That's really the only thing left that I can't make any sense of.

I don't know. I don't know if I have anything to comment. Honestly, I was saying to before start, that's the reason why I wanted to bring you on because I'm like, I, I, you know, the sun rose the next day. Well, hold on. But that's it. So my question is, I guess to everybody listening is, will it be as good as you could have gone under construction? Conservatives. No. Like I have no doubt about that. I'm not saying conservatives are saviors by any stretch of the imagination, but it would have certainly helped the West a whole lot more. It would have uncomplicated this. I walked it, this is, you know, you're talking about, you know, saviors and everything. I walked into a gas. I was driving home from Calgary yesterday. And I drove into a gas station just outside Emmington. And there was, I wish I would have got out his name. Honestly, there was a Muslim man working behind the counter.

And I walked in and he said, ah, I said, hey, how's it going? And, you know, just being polite. He said, oh, it's a wonderful, what would that have been? Tuesday morning, I guess. A wonderful Tuesday. And I'm like, wonderful. Interesting. You know, you just don't get.

I'm like, what's wonderful about it? And he started, well, I'm living in Danielle's world. And I was like, oh, okay. So you're Daniel Smith fan? Like, I just, like, this is, he goes, yeah, I don't mind Danielle. He goes, all of them are corrupt, all politicians. It doesn't matter, you know, what side you're on. And I'm like, interesting.

So now I'm like, you know, I think God's great. I'm like, this is cool. All right, walk in. So I shake the guy's hand. I go, tell me about yourself. Where are you from? He goes, well, I'm from Alberta. And I'm like, no, fair enough.

But you mentioned just kind of. Then he goes, oh, well, I'm originally from South Africa. And I go, oh, okay. And he goes, but I married a girl. And all that brought me to Alberta. And I'm like, fair enough. He goes, I've been here 27 years. I'm like, well, my books makes you know, Burton.

He goes, yeah, I get some customers telling me to go to F home and, and take a, you know, the nasty side. And I'm like, well, that sucks, you know, I don't wish days like that for you. And he goes, I go, how's South Africa? And he goes, well, you know, before Mendela, we wrote at the back of the bus. And after Mandela, we were called non-black. And he goes, so like, there's always divisions. It doesn't matter what politician comes in. There's all they always create these divisions.

Yeah. I hate you and you hate me. And I go, so what's the solution? And he goes, golden rule. And I say, what's that? You know, I, I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know what I mean. And he goes, well, it doesn't matter if it's Jesus or Muhammad. They both said, treat others as you'd like to be treated. And I, I, well, to be fair, Muhammad took that from Jesus. So it was Jesus. Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough.

I'm just saying what he said, right? And I'm like, this is, I'm like, I'm like, Yeah, you're right. You know, I'm like, you have a wonderful day. Thanks for, thanks for talking to me. You know, Sean, I'm sure you and everybody listening for the last 10 years, it has been a circus of human insanity where we go from trans issues to COVID issues to transfers of wealth to nobody going to jail to Fauci being pardoned when he hasn't even been charged. jet back to 2014, no accountability. Yeah, we talked a lot about on this, haven't we, Vesper? Yeah, I mean, 10 years of insanity, but is it really 10 years? I've been posting some more historically Canadian political things lately.

Jean-Cretien's, he was, he has one of his friends from Quebec, a liberal organizer, Corrievo, was found guilty in 2017 for basically fraud. You remember the ad scam? You've heard of the ad scam thing and all that stuff. $6.5 million. And there's three other people that were complicit, but they can't even figure out how much money. A Rive scam where the Auditor General is like, the books were so badly handled.

I don't even know how much money was really spent. And yet nobody's going to jail, right? Maybe Corrievo, that one guy in the last 10 years, maybe two, went to jail. and everybody else gets off scot-free. And so I posted this, I posted this thing on X the other day. And because of Tews, right, ever since Tews opened my eyes that I look at things like from the Punisher's point of view, I didn't realize the Punisher had such clarity, to be honest.

I always thought it was more like Batman. And Tews put me rightfully in my place. I was like, actually, no, you're not looking at it like that. And so there's this line from Punisher Volume 1. I'm going to send it to you if it's okay with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can look at it. And I want you to read it because you'll probably get a chuckle reading it.

There, I'll see if I can wait one second here, folks. I'll pull it up on the screen. Okay, here we go. It says justice is blind because it's been punched in the face too many times, the Punisher. And we know that this is really what has demoralized Canadians. This is what has made Canadians go through every stage of grief, like five times over. Justice, which should be just logical.

Like if you are found to be taking bribes, you should go to jail. Not be investigated by your own government. and your own party and be found that you broke an ethics rule when when it's what's that saying justice for thee but not for me right there's two-tiered system of justice that everyone's have to feel and nobody's held account on everything yeah people people lose sight at that point i think of what's been happening to all of us and it's it's understandable why a lot of people would think that there's corruption. And let's face it, every politician, just like that dude that you said that you talk to, right?

The golden rule. Well, in politics, there is no golden rule. In politics, it's to get into power, stay in power, make as much money as you can and leave. Because it's a career. We call them public servants. Yeah. Look, and I'm not saying there hasn't been good public servants. Well, for sure, but it's like when it's back in COVID, when I used to, you know,

we used to talk about what was going on in healthcare. You know, I always had to say, like, I know good people. there but there were things going on well politics is no different than any profession right the nchel you know um there there's been a lots of scandals going on the nchal does that mean all hockey's bad you insane no no it isn't you know i just interview but i will but i will correct you on something i'll push back sure this is the only a pushback hockey has a predetermined set of rules that referees enforce so if you if you bribe the refs which has probably happened but most of the time the rules are very clear and the refs enforce the rules.

It doesn't matter how clearly the rules are, though. People always try and bend them, if not break them, if they think they can win. Take the Houston Astros in the World Series, right? Clear set of rules. You can't do that. But did they take the championship? Did they take everything away from them? Yeah, but the pushback is this.

If in hockey, the refs are the people enforcing the rules, then for us, it would be the RCP and judiciary. Yes. They're not enforcing the rules. Take, take for example, pride, right? Pride parade. I have, if that's the choice that you want to make, go ahead. That's your life. I'm not your judge.

But if you walk around naked with your dingling hanging out, you're breaking the law. Correct. And then when you watch the referee, which is the police officer behind these people and these parades doing this, not enforcing the rules, then everything is basically gone. The whole thing becomes a banana. Well, go back to COVID. We can, you know, Black Lives Matter, can have thousands of people out. The Prime Minister shows up for that.

But if it was any other thing, it's not allowed. Right. It's, it's this. Yeah. It's rules for thee, but not for me. The double standard. The double standard. The whole thing that we're living through as Canadians, and I don't even want to say just Canadians.

I think it hasn't hit Americans yet, just what's about to happen in the U.S. either. but since COVID we've never been the same. I think you can agree to that. Well, certainly this show changed. It went 180 in the middle of COVID. I felt like I had no choice. And, you know, to try and go back to who Sean was before those days is impossible. It's just impossible.

And I'm not just talking individually. All of us have our stories. But collectively, the world has changed. The world has shit. shifted and changed. And it's like everybody doesn't want to talk about it now. And it's only only these kind of independent voices that are still fighting for this. Like what did you, what the hell did we just go to? And who's going to be held accountable? Is Bill Gates going to be held accountable? No. Is Fauci going to be held accountable? No. Is Theresa Tam going to be held accountable

from Canada? No. Millions and billions of dollars were spent. I posted a picture the other day also off my timeline that shows per person. I mean, I don't know how well you know this, but I want to share this with you just the picture itself. And people don't seem to understand what happened, in our country anyways. Here, I just dropped it for you. You don't necessarily need to share. but I want you to see it. Confirmed vaccine doses procured per person by vaccine candidate. Canada is literally double every other country. Trudeau and his government, which is going to lead into this whole other thing.

And I want to explain to you why this is going to dovetail into the next big thing that I want to help. I'm hoping Canadians understand what happened. Okay. Where did you get all this money? Because if you look up what Trudeau did for emergency, he demanded immediately $500 billion for COVID. That'll change Canada. Are you saying that everything we owe up until this point, roughly $600 billion?

You want to double this in a week? Yeah, that's what happened to Canada. And it happened in the U.S. too. It happened in every country and nobody said, nobody stopped them. Nobody stopped the government to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean you're going to spend? Well, it's a national emergency. I get it, but it can't just be that we have to look at it now. Can we look at the impacts of what you're about to do 10 years, 20 years from now?

You know, in the military, and even in sports, there's a cost, benefit to everything. And you know this, right? as a professional hockey player that you play that you understand, sometimes you've got to make sacrifices. I've seen teams take their goalie out. That's a massive risk. You take a goalie out because you need to score that last goal. That's a risk.

They took this risk, Sean, and it cost all of Canada, basically not just money, but the sheer division, the vilification of everybody that didn't agree with this. And we're not talking about people that take the vaccine. don't take the vaccine. I'm not talking about that. It's the way that the marketing was blitzed on everybody, right, in particular here in Quebec, right? I know a lot of people blame Quebec for a lot of things, but believe it or not, Quebecers like me have had it hard through COVID because we were about to get taxed for not getting faxed. I don't know if that happened anywhere else in North America,

right? And the pushback, thank God, he was projecting something like $1,500 per person that didn't get vaccine. Okay. And, you know, I don't know if you've had Viva Frye on the show, but- Yeah, multiple times. Yeah, so Viva, I, I, I met him one time in passing in Montreal, a really nice dude. And I used to love watching his shows. And he chronicled a lot of what was going on in Quebec with the lockdowns and everything. I mean, listening to Viva today, compared to when I remembered Viva back then when he was doing like the like covering you know law things and some really quirky things and everything Viva was completely blackpilled because and who could blame him who could blame him the things that happened in that period he was one of the you always almost

always saw him like just smile I'm not seeing he doesn't smile but it affected him to the point where he's now in Florida like he was done he was done now imagine multiplying this or with the entire population when a government does this. Yeah. A successful demoralization campaign happened. Then this election happens. And everyone's like, okay, few. We're finally at the election.

And then the liberals win. Now, on to this thing before we jump into the Bank of Canada stuff. Did you hear about the Terban debacle? Before we get to the Tarbonne debacle, I just want to say, coming from the forum, right, the event I just did. one of the most beautiful things that I can say about it is the people that come because they come from all over the world we had we had a guy from Singapore England Cayman Islands all across US all across Canada fly in to do this and I

talked to one couple from Toronto in particular and it was before they bought their tickets they called me because they weren't sure they said like we just we don't want to spend this money and then come out there and just kind of want to know what you're doing and so I explained it and they said well how many people are coming? I'm like, well, it looks like, you know, upwards of 600. We had at the high point, 650. And they sent me an email just basically saying, thank you so much.

Because where we live, we can't have conversations like this. We're just, we don't feel comfortable anywhere. And so you see this like, I don't know how to explain other than a buzz, BESPR. And all it is is people willing to share their thoughts. They don't all agree. They don't all agree on everything. But they're just so thankful.

to have a place, a community, where they can just gladly explain things and change ideas and hear things and then go talk about it. And everybody is looking at the world in a completely different way. And they don't have that in their communities where they just have a, at least from my understanding,

an ability to just go and share thoughts and talk about anything from politics across the board to, you know, health or EVs or anything. Just take anything. And they were talking about it all. And it was really beautiful. People smiling and enjoying themselves and all the things. And there was just this glow to the audience that I can't even,

I try to put it in words and I don't know how to explain it. It's so cool to see. Well, I mean, what does that tell you about the conversational climate that's going on in the world? It's not that we can't say anything anymore. I think what we're living in is we're living in an existential threat. where we have to like almost double, triple check everything that's being said, even with free speech, right? There's just a ton of people that make stuff up just to get popular, unfortunately.

And it's very hard to go somewhere where the data is trustworthy anymore. Back in the day, CBC was trustworthy because they reported on the malfeasance of the Liberal Party, CTV also. Now you can't trust them for squat. there was a time I could go to, let's say, my local newspaper, right, in their expression. Now, you can't, you can barely trust any of them for squat. It almost seems like they're all paid off to lock and step with what the government wants because of subsidies. The last, I would say the last barrier, and I'm sure you would agree with this, was the

independent voices, right, to come up and to speak and to speak the truth and they did the research. But even now that's under threat because I'm sorry to say this. And I'm not accusing you of this or any of the people that came to the cornerstone. But there are people even among the independent voices that are basically either being paid off, shilled, name it. And if they're not being paid and shill, they're doing this completely for their personal wealth by inciting people to follow them based on an emotional reaction. where you can't like it's almost like where do I go anymore now I come to your show not because you guys are always accurate but at least you're honest about what you report what you talk about

you and twos for me uh signal two people that are honest about you know what they're looking into they bring in people that are really well versed in what they know they they're they're for the most part I would say and I haven't heard anything but they're very unbiased in their view of what's going on. They're well educated on a particular topic. I go there. But even then, I have to double check for myself. And I urge Canadians to not just believe me. Don't believe just Sean. Don't believe anyone, anyone, at least take 10 minutes out of your time. If you hear a claim, if you're not sure what it is, go look multiple things up read for yourself. Well, I don't bring people on the show and then think that they're, you know, and this is what

I love about my audience. Even this conversation, I'm going to get texts. And they're, you know, they're going to love or hate in between some of the things we talk about. But that's what I like about them. They're using their critical thinking to, to, to, listen and take in information and add it to their life, not add it to their life. Go search out things. They hear something that doesn't make sense. And they'll send me stuff on it.

Yeah. And that's, that's what we do here. We just bring people on. But you can understand why, like, for example, the cornerstone thing, right? it probably matters for people with several different agendas, right? And within those, everyone kind of finds some kind of middle ground together. But the average Canadian, the average human being, right, for the most part is they can carry their 2.5 kids, 2.5 garage, they have to go to work 9 to 5, planning a holiday is hard,

their mortgages are becoming more expensive. and they're probably just listening to you on the way from going to work in the morning with their coffee in their hand. How much of that are they going to actually keep in mind and process? Is there enough storage in their minds to process the world's, let's say, malfeasance in politics, for example? And to be honest with you, a lot of people don't have a lot of context. And I'm sure you know a lot about what I'm talking about because even within religion, we fight. this. It's pervasive in human nature where even in religion, politics, history, context matters, and people don't have enough time usually to properly gain context. And this is where we're at.

Case in point, but let's just quickly just jump to this Terban thing. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. So the whole Terban thing, and I'm going to send it to you. Maybe you want to put it up on the screen so that everyone who is watching, here you go. And I'll let you read. I've talked enough. I love your soapy voice. Here, this is what it says.

Okay, the title, it's on BBC, Block candidate who lost by one vote considering all options after report a ballot problem. The Block Quebec law candidate for the Montreal area. writing of Tara Bond says she evaluating her options after a judicial recount that saw her lose by a single vote. So that's one vote. Quoted following a judicial recount that caused a vote reversal as spectacular as unexpected. I owe it to myself to evaluate all options before us.

Nathaniel. No. Natalie. Thank you. Sinclair. Desgania. Degani. Hey, it's Quebec well, man.

Come on. I don't want to fault you for that. wrote on Facebook on Monday. I'll keep you updated on the next steps. Singler-Degnais statement that comes as Election Canada investigates a possible error involving an uncannid mail, uncounted mail-in ballot from a block voter in the Terribon riding. Voter Emmanuel.

Now this is the girl that got the envelope, right? She got the envelope from Elections Canada. They stuck, you know, that yellow sticker that they put in with your address and everything, blah, blah, blah, blah, to cover it. They got it wrong. they got her address wrong. She didn't write her address. She just had to fill it in, close it, send it back.

So she told Radio Cam that she mailed in her ballot in early April using an addressed envelope provided by Elections Canada, but it was returned to her as undelivered. Election Canada says it appears that part of the postal code printed on the envelope was wrong and that it's working to gather more facts of what happened. Liberal Tatiana Auguste was declared the winner. over Sinclair, the incumbent by a one-vote margin after a judicial recount in an election that returned the liberals to power

with the minority government on April 28th. So basically- But hold on, you need to jump one paragraph, just jump one paragraph so people get more context. What happened? To the final result? No, August was initially projected to win. Okay, August was initially projected

to win the writing by 35 votes after the election. So she was up 35 votes. But was, but Sinclair, who was first election, in 2020 one moved ahead by 44 votes so it swung it went liberal then it swung block following the required post-election validation process the win was returned to august on saturday following a judicial recount with august receiving 23,352 votes to signal uh to sinclair's 23,351 so there's your one vote that separates so okay so I'm laughing because it's so ridiculous.

The odds of this happening is tantamount, if you've done one of the things that I do sometimes in my work is to calculate odds. The odds of this occurring in the way that it did is tantamount to a tornado going through a landfill and building a Cessna plane. there's almost that much probability that these series of events have occurred, one to the power of 200 to the square root of like eight, right, that this would all land on one vote. And what makes this even funnier is then this girl pops out of nowhere going, hey, you guys didn't count my vote.

So what does that mean? Are they tied? Are they going to have to redo that writing? Is this now put into question every writing? How many votes did you cancel out? Apparently they canceled out like 800 votes, Sean. Did you know that? I did.

Like, so hold on. You mean to tell me, can we see these votes? And you know, Marty up north brought this, and he was completely right on this. Marty was like, we need to see and scrutinize every vote that was rejected. How do we know what you did? What if the person that was doing it is cockyed? can't see properly. Who is deciding all of this and how did you decide all of this? And it's all secretive. And now this comes out. This begs the question,

elections Canada, are you going to review every single thing? Because I'm sorry, man. There's no way statistically you can win by one vote. The way did they want by one vote here, Sean, and this is my opinion, okay? If somebody said, ah, fuck it, let's just give it one vote. And we're done. Like, let's just give, like, morons, why don't you give them at least five? Why don't you give them at least 10 more? Don't do one. Like, it's absurd. It's literally absurd at this point that you would win by one vote. This is comedy at this point. So, you're up 44, 35, liberal. Then you are, you go down and the block is up 44. Okay, so it's close. But one vote, close and then what adds the cherry on this whole cake is then this girl emmanuel comes out and says

well elections canada didn't count my vote because they got the address wrong and correct right and and and again it's it's it's it's how bizarre right let's not make this bigger than it's it's it's It's how bizarre this whole thing is. You mean to tell me that the win was based on one vote? And you're telling me you couldn't find, out of all of Techban, except Emmanuel, who voted for the block, that'll put like a crank in this whole thing? Are you serious? It's a joke. And Elections Canada, I don't care what investigations they want to do.

A lot of people came up and have been telling me, like, this is not the federal government. It's Elections Canada. I'm like, listen, man. If you think I'm naive to believe that any of these bodies, right, which is gonna help us jump into this whole Bank of Canada thing in a second, because people need to know why you are really struggling and somebody has to explain it in a way.

And I'm sure some of your viewers already know this, but we need to explain this so that people understand what happened. The Bank of Canada says it's independent. Elections Canada says it's independent. All these people that say they're independent, turn out to be not independent. And the way you know that they're not independent is not because they said so.

Hey, you know what? I'll just come out and say, I'm not a man. Yeah, I could make really dumb things and say, you know, you can't corrupt me. Oh, okay, so because you said that you're incorruptible and you're independent, I should just automatically believe you. Yes.

You mean there's nothing that happens in the back rooms. There's no checks that are probably traded. There's no, like, remember Brenda Lucky with that whole shooting that happened out in the, in the east where like, what's his name, Bill Blair was like, you know, I want you to make this go away and I want you to like do it with this. And she gets, we catch her on the phone. And then suddenly she's retired. Come on. Like, we're reading a comic book and it's not even a well written comic book, Sean. So this is something that I think a lot of people that don't know already is happening in Quebec. There's other people that are now wondering, is this going to turn it into a liberal majority because of all these? What would make this story funnier, Sean, is if two more writings flip by only one vote, that's the only thing that would make this funny.

Because at that point, it's literally like the government pointing two middle fingers to our face is saying, ha ha do something about it that's how I see it that's that's what happened in 10th bud I'm eager to hear what you think well when you do the probabilities of it I just I hear that and I go

one of the things I wonder with elections Canada is how many more they got wrong that they they they obsolete it because of that and obviously that isn't a one-off I'd be shocked I'd want to know the probability of that being the only one like that. I would say that's probably the probability is going

to be, you know, that happening just once, I highly doubt it. So now you have a problem. And it's not just the numbers, right, that it's one vote. It's how it happened. People need to understand probabilities and counted on the final result. It's the process that led to that result, right? It's like, remember that game and the prices, right? Klinco, the thing that would go down, a clink blink blink and it would have like a series of random tiles as it was falling down you could never know where it was going to land the series of events that led to this and for elections canada to say yeah they uh they won by one vote really really okay so i can't tell if it's winnie the pooh authors that wrote this or if it's like something out of i don't know where's waldo kind

comedy, but it begs the question, why is there no visible public review, something that I think needs a decentralization. Elections Canada requires everything, I think requires a visible decentralization. You know, for all the bad things about crypto that I've said in the past, I used to be very involved in crypto, but the one good thing is the blockchains. You can track everything. You can you can track where the transactions go. You may not know who it is, but you can track them. Why are we not doing a record keeping? Not that you shouldn't count by hand, but that there is a record keeping on some kind of

a blockchain of these votes. Now can it be manipulated? I think anything can be manipulated. Let's be honest, okay, especially if the government's behind it. I'm talking about a truly independent body of people that take all the information and then we tally everything in that way. But even then it's an imperfect. system. So Elections Canada, you need to be very open, particularly Stefan Perrault, the director of

Elections Canada. You need to come out and show basically everything because I'm starting to wonder now, and I hate to say this, I'm starting to wonder, how are you invalidating these? How do I know that when the person opened up the ballot didn't smudge it themselves? Are you just asking me to believe you? Do you, do I have stupid written on my head? Like, this is the problem, right? I was there. None of them were wearing gloves. And even if they were, you could still smudge my vote. And all the people that brought their pens, guys, pens are not permanent markers. Because if you would have used the permanent marker, it would have pierced it to the back and it would have been validated it. This whole thing has cast such doubt over the entire election process,

Sean, while you are away, that everybody is now beginning, like it was one thing to doubt the government, the PMO, the judiciary, the RCMP. I know there was doubts in BC about the elections and everything, but now we're talking federally. One vote? Really? 800 canceled? Really? Can we see them? No. We're doing an internal review. Wait a minute. Didn't revenue Canada, the CRA do that? They were audited and they were found to be, they wouldn't give the documents. They refused to basically audit all their COVID spending. This is the world we live in. And maybe I can't change anything.

Maybe you can't change anything, Sean. But you know what? It's good to be aware like that gentleman that you met, right, who said, hey, it's a beautiful Tuesday. And yeah, I'm happy with Danielle, but I'm also realistic. Let's face it, there's always going to be class warfare. We're in a class, you and I, Sean. No matter how many millions you make, by the way, right?

No, no, I'm saying if you were, if you were making millions. Someday, hopefully. If you do someday, I'd be so happy for you because you deserve it. But let's assume for a second, even if you made millions, hey, here in Montreal, in COVID, the owners of Guzo, you know, the movie chain, they were literally yelling at the top of their lungs against the Quebec government that was shutting everything down. Why? Because while there may be a fiscal class disparity between lower, middle, high class, there's also different type of class. It's the people in power and the people that are not. Right. And so this is where we're at right now.

We're electing people who get into power who make decisions. And I hate to say this, even if they feel like they're defending their constituents, it's very unilateral. And the party holds people in check. And yeah, right now the liberals are in power. How do I know that elections candidate is being honest? I don't know. From the past, liberals have been involved in many scandals. At this point, we've gotten so used to scandals that you can understand why a lot of people are doubting this. But this is something that I felt like people that don't know about this out West, if they haven't heard about it yet, they should know. I'm glad you brought it up because once again, you asked me, do you hear about this?

I'm like, dude, I've been unplugged for like at least 10 days, right? And missing two mashups, which I was getting texts, like, where are you? I'm like, kids sports, forum, 12-hour line stream, they all just collided all. same time. So I'm I'm happy that you're bringing it up because I think it is important that people know this has gone on in Canada. Now you've been talking about you brought it up multiple times I think you want to get to the banking thing. Walk me through what you're talking about. So the Bank of Canada and you're going to have to bring these up on the screen for those that are watching and you're going to do the reading because I'll be honest. I'm a good reader,

but you just you sound better when you read a little second. Just before. you open a link I just sent you. I want you to see this. And I'm going to guide the people that are watching this, right? To see something that they probably didn't know. And it's very important that people see this. Very, very important because it's going to add a reference to people that unfortunately, here, this is the link.

So this is what the Bank of Canada printed, sorry, posted on. On the 2020, here, click this link. And please share this, okay? Yeah, I'll bring it up here. One second. Okay, here we go, folks. There you go. Okay, so Bank of Canada, you asked us if we printed cash to finance the federal government.

We didn't keep reading to learn how we supported the economy from the shock of the pandemic. It says the pandemic has been a crisis like no other. As a result, we took various measures like buying bonds to support and ensure strong and stable economy. We bought existing government bonds from banks on the open market. Why this helped unblocked frozen markets at the start of the pandemic. It let households, companies and governments. Okay, all this, you've lost already everybody. Because let me tell you why.

Not that people don't know what bonds are, but what exactly happened? You may not have known this, Sean. And I don't know if anyone has brought this up on your show throughout the whole time that you've been talking about COVID, inflation, all this stuff. Did you know about this? I'll drop it in. You need to share this now. And now read what I've learned. What is it?

Is it too funny that I'm sharing these? No, I laugh because I'm like in my brain. You know, you get a lot of guests that come on the show. And you're one of the very few that always shares legs. And I'm not, I'm just,

you know, I'm rolling. Stay on your game, bro. That's right. Okay. This is what best, Bank of Canada and the Liberals caused COVID inflation. This is,

okay, this, here is. So what did the bank of? Canada just say a minute ago. They didn't print money. Yeah. Right?

Okay. The federal government under Trudeau and the Liberals bypass Section 18J in the Bank of Canada Act, which caps borrowing from the Bank of Canada at 33% limit of their projected annual revenue in 2020, 2021. Because they couldn't borrow more than a third of their revenue, they opted to circumvent the process by using Section 18C of the Act, which allows the bank of Canada to create liquidity without a cap by selling bonds to buy. banks and repurchasing them via settlement balances, a unique form of money reserved for the central

bank. They fled the market with fake money, which is called quantitative easing. Why did they do this? Because Justin and his liberals shut down the Canadian economy during the COVID, and the bank of Canada subsidized their damaging policies by creating money from thin air to compensate using the sale and purchase of securities found in Section 18C to the tune of $400 billion. Now watch this. Keep this up. this link and watch what they did. Did you just send me a new one? Yes.

Okay, the bottom one. Now, I want the people that are watching this, I want you to understand what you're, and the people that aren't hearing, that they're listening to this, I'll explain what happened. Okay. You just want me to read this one, Vesper? No, no, you need to put it on the screen? Yeah. Because you have to see what it says, right?

Like, we could read it, but I want people to see it with their eyes that are watching this. Okay. So it says, if anyone doubts that the bank of Canada covers its inflation tracks, compare the 2020 definition of settlement balances on their site to the 2025 version. Thankfully someone screenshot it, why did you change it from type of money to type of deposit created a Bank of Canada? So what's the premise here? The premise, and keep it up because you're going to share one last thing to explain

this to people that are seeing and this is the last link you'll be sharing, okay? let's stay on this for a second. Tiff MacLum goes on and tells everybody, we didn't print paper money. Okay. You didn't print paper money. No problem. How did the government get so much money when they ask for $500 billion. You can't loan from the bank of Canada. Right? You can't loan. You read it a minute ago. It's set to a third. 33%. Yep. Right. The 33%. That year's revenue, in that video, by the way, Sean, I urge you to watch it and share it with people, the one that you read about the inflation caused the COVID inflation. Pierre Paul Yev highlighted and showed evidence that that year's annual projection was $352 billion. A third of that would have been $118 billion.

How is it that the Bank of Canada is now sitting at $400 billion, the Act forbids you from basically three, times above the limit of 18J. Now, let's get something clear. What they did was not illegal, but it was very dirty. Section 18C deals with securities, things like bonds. The way that Trudeau and everybody got around this was they said, all right, well, we clearly can't ask for a loan because it would be illegal. I know. Let's sell bonds to banks. Then let on the secondary market, Let the banks sell them to the Bank of Canada at a higher rate. The Bank of Canada takes, like buys all this and then returns all this under the guise of settlement balances, which what Tiff Maclam called in a video that you could watch on my wall.

He said it's a special. Look what it says. You still have it up there. What do they call it? Are a unique type of money that central banks create. So it's not real money. They returned, they flooded the economy with fictitious numbers after buying these bonds to inflate liquidity for Trudeau so that they could spend on vaccines, campaigns, and everything. So this whole thing was to circumvent the process of a loan.

They sold bonds. Have we ever sold close to 400 to 500 to 500 billion? dollars in bonds this way no but there was no other way to do it because there's no cap on that act now last last thing and i'm dropping it in for the people that are watching this is how it worked this is how the process worked and i'll stop on this because this is a big deal folks this is a very big deal that you need to understand how this works and you can click the picture to make it bigger if you want to yeah i think i think that'd be wise yep oops there you go this so you see how it works the canadian government under Justin Trudeau, the liberal Canadian government, sold the bonds to the banks. The banks sold it to the Bank of Canada.

The Bank of Canada canceled them out by buying with something called settlement balances. We loaned ourselves money to buy to sell these back and give it to you in liquidity. Vesper, do you mind if I try and put it in my mind? Yeah, go ahead. I just want to, because, you know, if I'm listening to you correctly, and everything you just put. This is, I just want to make sure I'm getting this clear in my brain. And then you can tell me where I get it wrong.

We had a 33% cap, right? So they can't just go up and print as much money as they want. They have a problem. They want more money. So the way they get around that is instead of printing 33 or the 400 million themselves. Loaning. Billion. Borrowing money from the Bank of Canada.

Correct. What they do is they issue bonds, which looks like they're actually getting money. correct and then that bank sells to the bank of canada and then they turn around and settle that balance so it's almost like money in money out it shows it but there's actually nothing there then it comes back to the central bank and it sells it to the canadian government so they actually get it but they call it as something different than printing money because they did precisely but they get what they want without having to ever say it because it's not a lot It's like the politician's saying, we never forced you to get vaccinated.

And in one sense, they are absolutely speaking the truth other than not. Yeah. Nobody put a gun to your head and said you had to do this. But we can all admit, well, yeah, but you went about it in a way that was pretty much forcing us. Yeah, but we didn't force you. And so what they're saying here is we didn't print money. What are you talking about? We did settlement balances.

What are you talking about? We didn't do any of that. And so when I look at this, it's a very clever, very clever. Right. Not illegal, not illegal. Correct. But very clever. And it's shocking that 18C of the Bank of Canada Act never had a cap on even the sale of

securities. They circumvented this whole process by working this way and flooded the market with money that doesn't exist. causing an inflationary crisis. Which is like printing money. Basically. When you say they flooded the market with money that doesn't exist, it's like printing money.

To talk to all the people that think printing money is we actually printed $100 bills. Yes. What a lie. If you go back, and I don't want you to, but if you go back to that original post, look what he said. The first thing, Bank of Canada made that first statement about printing money. Was it in the CB? article, forgive me. No, no, no, on X. Remember when they said, let's explain to you why?

Oh, no, no, I got, I got, I got so many. I know, I know. But why is this important? If the Bank of Canada, and I've just demonstrated this to you, Sean, and to the people that are watching, maybe not listening, but we're trying to help those who are just listening, if the Bank of Canada, this independent body, apparently, right, self-procernment, claimed independent. Tiff Maclam, I'm independent, the governor of the bank of Canada, comes out on X and say, right here, right here. I'll bring it back up. Yeah, yeah. We, if you asked us, if we printed money to finance the federal government. No, no, no, listen, words matter. Yes. What's the word they use? Not money. Cash. Cash. Cash. Because in the brain, they're going to make

Well, look at me. I read it as money, right? Like, I mean, right? You see, this is important. These things, this is what people like me do for a living when we do our marketing, right? The words matter. If I say cash, you don't think digital money in your, your account. You think $100 bills. $100, $20, whatever, okay? Did we print cash? We didn't. You didn't. You mean you didn't create money? No, no. We didn't say that. We just didn't print cash. Now, just look at what it says. Two of five. What it says. As a result, we took various measures. Like buying bonds to support and ensure a strong and stable economy. Keep going. Now that you have the context, you're going to see how this makes such a joke.

Why? Then it goes on to say we bought existing government bonds from banks on the open market. But who made that decision? The Canadian government. Right. But hold on. Are you saying you had no idea, Tith Maclum, that the Canadian government was going to be playing this scheme by selling bonds?

Why are you buying bonds? Go back to this. Yeah. When you actually put these side by side, right? We bought existing government bonds from banks on the open market. Well, then just come back here. Where did they start from? Right.

And wait, are you thinking that Sean and I and everybody listening is so naive as to think that the Bank of Canada governor did not talk to the prime minister of Canada? about this, we took extraordinary measures. Who are you in lock step with here, bro? How did Trudeau get $500 billion when it wasn't on hand? You're lying to, if the Bank of Canada is going to engage in this kind of lying or twisting of what the truth is, why didn't they come out and say, we didn't print cash money, but we did create something called settlement balances, which is a type of central bank money.

We created, not we borrowed, not we bought, we created. So if you go back to the original post that you said that you were there, look at the three or five. Look at what they say. We bought existing government bonds from banks on the open market. Why? This helped us unlock frozen markets at the start of the pandemic. Let households, companies, and governments,

access funding when they really needed. Yeah, remember when banks were just giving out everybody 20K, 40K, 60K and loans? This is why it was so easy, guys. This is why you were looking around wondering how are these people getting these loans? This is why. Now, keep going. What it says, four or five. Not with the benefit of context, Sean, this is going to outrage.

It should outrage, not just you, but everybody listening and watching. Buying bonds also pulled down interest rates across the economy. this lowered the cost of borrowing to help Canadians get through the pandemic. It goes on to say we did not print cash to pay for the bonds. We bought the bonds with settlement balances, a kind of central bank reserve, not with banknotes. What's the difference? Settlement balances don't permanently add to money supply. Unlike cash, we can remove those reserves from the system, and you can see that we've been doing just that.

read more about quantitative easing. Right. So there's quantitative easing, which is fake money to boost liquidity. And then there's quantitative tightening, which is to pull out this fake money, basically. But nevertheless, folks, when it went up to those that can see the screen that the Bank of Canada is, is, men, there are complicit in admitting this on their own post. Look at how, look at the amount at the peak, Sean, $400 billion. you pushed into the market. And now you said because you're pulling it out, it's fake money.

You're using monopoly money to boost and devalue the currency. This led to the housing crisis because of interest rates. You created this problem. Now, why is this all important? Now that we've kind of beat this horse to death, this is supposed to be Sean an independent organization from the government. doing this. When you and I just looked at a chart, looked at the flow of the way they did it, if they are this full of shit, sorry to say it, why should I trust Elections Canada?

I didn't trust the Hogue Commission. I didn't trust the Rulow Commission. I didn't trust David Johnston and all of his BS. Every single supposedly independent body has been working lockstep with this liberal government by circumventing what would normally be, which is what unfortunately Canada is based on this honor system. This is why people like me are atrocious to people that still are very self-virtuous. They believe in a virtuous Canada and that everybody, you know, we mean well. We're all good, you know, do-gooders and blah, blah, blah. Snakes have invaded, dressed as really good people and are,

leveraging this entire bizarre and impotent system in the sense that and I'm not saying there's no justice I'm saying it can be circumvented it could be gained and it's being gained and for the people that talk about elections if the bank of candidate lied to everybody and said we didn't cause inflation we didn't print cash yeah we know you didn't print cash but you didn't did make money. You did create money, digital money that you gave back to the government. Now elections Canada is saying, well, you know, we're doing anything we can ethically with our investigations. I'm sorry. If you're still very naive, not saying your listeners, maybe to new listeners that are maybe hoping, hopefully listening that are coming from the opposite side of the aisle.

And by the way, I think if conservatives did this, I would call them out just as much. In fact, I've called out Brian Mulroney in the past for the stuff that he's done. I've called out all these people. But I wanted you to see this, Sean, because if the elections Canada debate is probably the biggest thing right now, because it will form a liberal majority, and they claim to be independent. Well, here's another independent entity, the Bank of Canada. How do you feel they acted? I guess none of this shocks me, Bessberg.

Like, I, you know, I, and that I don't mean I'm black-pilled or whatever. I go like, this is what this system or these people or this group of human being, they've been doing this now. You know, we started this off of going back to Jesus. Like this isn't something, certainly the way it's playing out might be a little bit new. But, you know, like, I don't know, it just doesn't shock me. It doesn't shock me. But this is a great case for why Alberta wants to leave. See, I'm not saying Alberta and all of its, it's not a perfect.

system either, I'm sure. Okay. There's going to be hiccups and corruption, even if you guys gain independence. But I'll tell you what, it's one thing to have your own house in order than to basically be controlled by a body that has surreptitiously usurped all these organizations to throttle you. This is where as a Quebecer, and I've said this before, and you know I say this, Sean, I stand the most to win because it's going to piss off tubes that I'm still in Quebec and I'm still collecting $14 billion from you while you guys get toothpicks from Quebec or putines or whatever. I shouldn't be complaining, right? I should be like, hey, it's the way it works.

You were outplayed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, this is why Alberta should gain its independence. Because the Bank of Canada, I'm independent, elections Canada, Mr. I'm independent. We only call this writing by one vote and send somebody the wrong address. And we're investigating privately. We will never make this public. Mr. I'm the whole commission. And we're not going to reveal any of the names of the 11 traitors that basically were working with foreign agents to usurp our government and our democracy in elections. We're not going to arrest that guy that put a bounty. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do that.

We're not, hey, I will talk in the Quebec accent. I will tell you, Albertans, get the hell out as fast as you can. Be smart, smarter than we were in Quebec, and galvanize together, make very strong, and leave. I am for you. I don't want you to leave, but you have every right to leave after everything we talked about today, Sean. Everything that you sought to help you catch up with what's been going on. The liberals may not necessarily be the devil, but they're doing. a whole lot of demonic stuff and they've been doing a lot of demonic stuff that it makes sense

why a province has is fed up and it's not just energy it's all the red tape it's all the lying it's all the grandstanding and gaslighting and everything i i i would want to if if if if if if we were to use the example of the federal government being an abusive overbearing father i would leave i would want to leave that house too. Fesper, I have appreciated you coming on, and I'm glad it worked out in both of our schedules. I think you've given not only myself, but a ton of people, some things to chew on, and that, sir, is a good thing. And, well, we'll wait until we get the crew again together for a little roundtable discussion online. But thanks for doing this today.

And all the best out east, and we'll look forward to painting. attention to you on X. If you're not following Vesper, make sure you look them up and look forward to having you back on here at some point. Thank you so much. God bless you. And to everyone listening, thank you for listening to me. And enjoy the rest of the day.