Shaun Newman Podcast - #870- E.M. Burlingame

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

EM Burlingame is an author, green beret, and currently is a Senior Research Fellow at the National Foundation for Integrative Medicine where he founded and leads the Jason Dawson and Stewart McGurk Brain Health Research Fellowship. We discuss civilizations, cultures and loyalty tests. To watch the Full Cornerstone Forum: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionWebsite: www.BowValleycu.comEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail]

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I'm talking about EM Burlingame. So buckle up, here we go. Welcome to the Shaw-Numa podcast. Today I'm joined by EM Burling Game. Sir, thanks for hopper. it on. Well, thanks for having me, Sean. Well, I got to give a shout out first to Crypto Rich. He's the one who suggested I bring you on and then, and then, you know, after listening to YouTube talk, then I realize you've been on Luongo and me and Tom now go way back. So I listen

to that and I'm like, oh boy, we got we got lots to cover. But before we get any further, I guess I just want to start by its first time on the podcast. If you want to tell the audience a little bit about yourself, I'd love to hear, you know, a little bit of your background. So just so you know when I was young, I didn't intend any of this. It just kind of happened. I did tech, well, I did the Army early out of school for a short while, the old guard mostly in D.C. I did nine months as a tomb guard. But then I went into tech in the first big tech boom, Silicon Valley back home in San Francisco, Chin Tech mostly, telecommunications technology, got on the investor side, on the investment banking, private equity side.

side of things as an analyst in China mostly in the buildup of China in the early 2000s. Help got involved in high frequency trading logic development and built a couple boutique investment banks as an analyst mostly on my part for the Far East. And then had a midlife crisis, went into special forces, became a green beret, worked as the 18 Fox as the targeting lead for the counter ISIS build up with the SIF out in the air. Asia. And then went to my doctoral studies in computational science and engineering to see if AOI was going to save us and it ain't. And then some brain injuries caught up with me. It kind of derailed me in a different direction. And now mostly what I do is try and figure out if we can

evolve health care and take a better job, take better care of our guys. And how on earth, you know, when you say, you know, like as a younger guy, I didn't predict being here, you know, I don't see that. I chuckle at that because I'm like, well, I can relate to that. I certainly didn't plan on being here. And yet here we are. What was it that set this in motion? I've always been curious since I was a little kid. I was fairly sickly as a kid. I had blood poisoning a couple times and then pretty bad pneumonia. So I had a lot of time to read and think and we didn't have TV and we didn't have electricity at our place. And so it was books and whatever my mother would bring for me to read and that just set me on a path to being curious about how

the world really works and this was during the whole tippy days of the 19 late 60s early 70s so it was very interesting time with you know my boomer parents and their friends or my boomer mother and her friends and that just set me on a path trying to figure out what the hell's really going on because even as a kid i was like yeah something's not right and i got me into all all these different industries because once you, you know, the seven elements of power, diplomacy, information, military, economics, finance, intelligence, and law enforcement, you know, as you're going down the path, try to figure out what the hell's going on, you realize, oh, actually there's these different domains. They're unique to themselves, but they're all interrelate. And if you're going to

really wonder, if you're really going to answer the question about how the world works, you've got to understand and have some experience in each of them. I muted myself because I've been, I've been sneezing on this side. Oh, gosh. I don't know what is going on with me the last little bit here with, well, here we got forest fires. So there's smoke and a few different things. I assume that's what's irritating me today.

But regardless, what I was saying to myself, obviously nobody can hear me is I listen to you and Tom. And I've been, I've been pondering this question. And I was trying to get it out to Martin Armstrong. And it just, I don't seem to be able to frame it the right way. So I'm going to throw it at you. is you just layered one of the things that, you know, my curiosity has led me to where I am. Yeah.

Because, you know, I started to look at the world. I'm like, it doesn't make sense. Like, what is, what is happening? And, you know, I don't know. I was trying to layer it and you just rattled off seven. So maybe you can explain this to me because, and with your background and working in China, I would love, you know, I bring in all these different guys. And it was a long ago who told me a long time ago.

And when the giants are fighting, just don't get stepped on. And what he was talking about was, you know, basically the states, you know, the state's power, the U.S., Britain, China, Russia. You know, you kind of get the big players. And they're going to do things back and forth, just don't get stepped on, okay? And so, you know, in one breath, I have people come on saying China is the devil. Like they are trying to control all of Canada. and then I have others come on saying China, no, China isn't that whatsoever. And I think always, you know, when I start to look at it, I'm like, well, you know, at the top, above all of this, you had God and the devil.

And then underneath that, then you start to have different layers and your seven track perfectly with the different realms of where influence and power push back and forth on each other. And they play out, you know, in the states of China and Russia and, you know, you know, Britain, NATO, US. And us, minions at the very bottom, we see the ripple effects of what they're doing back and forth to each other. And so I guess I'm trying to understand that two things at the same time can be correct. China cannot be favorable to Canada. I mean, in Canada, we've seen over the course of the last five years, it's probably

been longer that, how they push on our society. and so us Canadians look at that and go, well, that ain't good. Yet there's a bigger game at play, and it depends what game you're talking about, I think. Would you agree with that interpretation, or how would you try and break it down for the average person about how the world is working? So I would start with the latter statement that two things can be true at the same time. I agree with that. I also agree with what we perceive is dependent upon the scale at which we're looking. If we're looking at the sport of kings level, you know, one man sitting in a position of a power authority or a woman,

but generally a man sitting in a position of power be set on all sides externally and internally, how would he operate, how would he function for his people, for his country, for his nation, for his civilization. And that's the thing that we've got to be careful with. So I would follow on from both of those. The nation state model of organization didn't come about until the 1600s. So that's the piece of West Faria, two treaties, in Brooklyn, Munster, 1645, 1649. It didn't come about in what would become the British Isles. I hate that term.

But it wouldn't come about into the British Isles until after the English Civil War in the 1640s and 50s and then the inglorious revolution in 1688. Previous to that, what you dealt with was kingdoms, principalities, and civilizations. China is a civilization. It goes back thousands of years. Russia is a civilization. It goes back over a thousand years. The English civilization, not an ethnic group, but the English civilization goes back over a thousand years. Nations states were fostered and put forward because they're atomized elements that the Praetorians can control, they can manipulate, they can play off against one another. States, nation states operate and function and think in very specific ways, like corporations basically.

Civilizations don't. Civilizations are that higher level, right, that higher layer. that are about sustaining themselves as a civilization. They're not playing the state game, although that's the apparatus and the structure that we have to use now in the world. Why are we all against China? Well, because China broke free of our financialist kill chain. And so they must be brought back.

Well, how do you do that? You vilify them. You make them out to be the one behind everything that you're doing while you're false flagging most of that. and gaslighting everybody into believing it. Why does Russia have to be destroyed? Because Russia is a civilization. Russia said no, and they broke free.

Russia in the early 2000s, China and the 2010s. Why are we so against Iran? Why are we pushing so hard for the destruction of Iran? Because in the 1970s, they broke free. They went back to being a civilization, because guess what? The Persians are a civilization. Thousands of years old.

We, as the English-speaking people, are the English civilization. We're not British. We're not from Britain. That's a false construct that was laid down by the very same people who created nation states to deny us our recognition of ourselves as a civilization. Civilizations function very different than states. Although, again, that's the apparatus and the mechanisms

and the machinery and the logic structures, et cetera, that we have to all deal with right now. So with respect to China, China couldn't, and forget my language, but China couldn't get fuck all about anybody, but China, when you have 1.3 billion people, you need inputs and you need people to leave you alone because you have so much complexity to deal with that home

because of the number of individuals that live within your country and all the competing forces, right? People who have large families, like 12, 15, 20 member families, you know, close families have hard enough time just dealing with that. Imagine dealing with 1.3 billion

people. We can barely handle 300 million here in the United States. Trieda just wants to be left alone and wants a steady flow of inputs, which it pays for, and pays a fair price. Sorry to cut you. Okay, so this civilization thought

like that. And then you said that China and Russia have broke away from the financial kill switch in the last 20 years, roughly, right? 25 years for Russia, but in the last 20 years, roughly for both. Yeah. It would stand to reason then that they would have intimate knowledge of how the financial

kill switch works. And they, as civilizations, would be turning around on, say, the English and being like, well, why don't we just use the same thing against them? No? No, it's not how they work. So give me a second. The problem that we have is the English-speaking people is that we've been occupied at the top, at the crown, since 1888.

in every bit of our education, every bit of our history, every bit of our recognition, of our ability to recognize ourselves as an actual civilization has been denied us on purpose by the Dutch. And they're also, you know, by Amsterdam, really, which is the Venetians before and that's the Praetorians before that. So we've been intentionally denied our recognition of ourselves as a civilization. Civilizations don't war with each other. I mean, they do when they have to and they have the skirmishes and they have it. But Russia and China have not, you know, these are two at least a thousand years civilizations. Have they turned on it and destroyed each other?

Persia's a 4,500 year of civilization. Has it turned and destroyed everybody around it? Has it destroyed Russia? You know, try to destroy Russia? No, no, no. Civilizational peoples are powerful, immensely powerful. And it's like the guy at the bar, you know, big, strong, capable guy, right? Knowledgeable, experience, trained fighter, physical, right? Got experience.

You know, he's probably a combat veteran, you know what I mean? And he's sitting in the bar. And there's somebody there that, you know, done some nasty shit to him. Does he just go and beat the hell out of him because that's what you do? Oh, he's like, you can't really hurt me. You're not going to end me. You tried it. You came at me. You cost me some shit. But ultimately, I'm still here and you're collapsing. You're failing. So they just want to be left alone. Civilizations are rich and complex and sophisticated. They're not, they don't need to be expeditionary unless they're forced to it, right? And the English are, the English speaking peoples have been, again, occupied for 360 years, 340 years. So these other great civilizations look at us and go figure yourselves out.

get it worked out. We're going to wall you off. We're going to push back where you push us. But figure it out. You two are a great people. You need to get rid of these parasites that are in control. When you talk civilizations, I think I've heard four, Persians, the English, Russia, China. Would you add more to that? No. Okay. Then you said 1688. What happens in 1688? The Inglorious Revolution where there was a coup and a Dutch prince with a traitor-stuart daughter was put on the English throne at the invitation of seven British nobles and parliament, parliament which Amsterdam, the banking interest and the Dutch East India Company had bought and had actually bought four years before to initiate the English civil war. So what are the Dutch then? if they're not if they're not a civilization right they're they're not they're an empire they're a banking empire

they and this goes back to the venetians because that's where um the banking power and wealth came from and those go back to rome those are the praetorians that uh constantine defeated at milfian bridge in 312 it's this virtualized pretorian empire and it lives parasitically amongst peoples particularly, you know, I tried it with Russia post-World War I, right? Well, that's what World War I was about, was trying to destroy the Russians. And then we sent communism in there to, you know, destroy the civilization because you can't defeat a civilization militarily. And so they sent communism in there to wipe it out.

Why do you think they killed, you know, and that wasn't a Russian, Stalin. That was a Georgian and Trotsky was a Jew from Brooklyn, I believe. Right. So it didn't work. The civilization prevailed. Eastern Orthodox religion prevailed. They tried the same with China in the 1800s with the opium wars and bringing down the chain and turning it into a warlord state.

And they funded and backed the warlords, where it was a lot, most of that opium shipped out of the port of Rotterdam. And then we tried it again after World War II, when China was shaping back up under Shanghai Sheck and the Kumitang. And so we funded and backed the communists, Mao, to try and end the Chinese civilization. What was the cultural revolution? That was exactly that. They killed summer and starved out somewhere between 100 and 200 million people.

We don't know the exact number. We know it was more than 100 million. That was another attempt to stamp out the culture and civilization, Chinese culture and civilization. didn't work. We're now in that fight ourselves to recognize and remember ourselves as a civilizational people so that we can throw these bastards out ourselves

after they bankrupted Britain and they're near on to bankrupting us. Why can't you militarily stamp out a civilization? Is it just because you can't kill enough people or is there? Klausowitz said this a couple hundred years ago, right?

And I paraphrase because I read this long time ago decades ago. But basically, Klauswood said you can't really defeat your enemy unless you kill every single man, woman, and child and erase every, you know, every trace of their ever having been. Otherwise, the concepts and ideas, you know, the ideologies, the belief systems, the linguistic constructs, the metaphors, the spiritual, all of that stuff comes back. it's developed over, you know, the civilizations that develop, and there aren't a lot of them, and there have been some others in the past, you know, the Greeks were a civilization and kind of still are. But it, there's a whole complex weave of things, and to be quite honest, I haven't really sat down to work out those yet. Others have, I probably should. So it's very rare that people, a peoples emerge into and develop into a sophisticated civilization, not just a culture.

Civilizations are composites of many different cultures, right? Russians are multi-ethnic from their beginning. We got something like 124 ethnic groups and something like 111 linguistic groups in what we would consider the Russian sphere of influence in the Russian world, Russian civilization. Chinese have 1,400 linguistic groups and 1,100, or it might be the other way around, ethnic peoples. The English-speaking peoples are primarily initially five primary languages in ethnic groups, and really maybe about 15. And we've expanded from there. So you just can't, it's, again, a culture you can wipe out. a civilization which is a composite of culture as you can't.

It comes back because it's it's all of that, it's all of the sophisticated, subtle ways in which different people's bind themselves together into a whole. And it goes way beyond nation states. Nation states have never tried to replicate this, but just have never been able to do it. It's a big thought. Like I'm trying, like I'm sitting here and,

it's just a big thought. Because when you say a culture can be wiped out, can you expand on that? Just walk me through this. You can wipe out a culture because you can kill every man, woman, and erase every trace of it. You know, cultures are smaller, tend to be smaller. There's subsets.

You can erase those. I mean, that's what the cultural revolution in China was about. That's what the, you know, Stalin is personal. were about, they wiped out all kinds of smaller little cultures. Those are gone, right? Those aren't coming back. But the civilization itself, which is a composite of many different cultures, didn't get wiped out. Couldn't be. If I were to use a, I always think of a puzzle. If I were to think of a civilization as a puzzle, you know, in the case of China, you know, whether we use the 1100 and 1,400, it doesn't matter. It's a big puzzle. You can erase a piece or two.

but the whole still remains. Correct. That's what you're pointing to. Correct. Correct. And over the course of time, if you were to erase a culture, it almost adds to the civilization's history, right?

I mean, that's exactly what you're doing. And in theory, if you learn from your history, your civilization's history, hopefully you're not doomed to repeat the same thing over and over again, correct? Yes, yes. Okay, so great point.

What is this civilization? A civilization is the memory of a people. It's this long, you know, so it's the civilized, that's another thing that states think in terms of, you know, financial cycles and, you know, budgeting cycles, et cetera. Civilizations think in terms of centuries, millennia, right? Their memories go back to the very beginning of their, you know, their civilization. And they've seen it all. When you want, I assume you've watched, but when Tucker Carlson interviewed Putin, it was almost the two worlds of the ideas of how you're clashing. Because I was sitting there listening, I'm like, Tucker, just shut up and let him tell you the history of Russia. So he can expand on the way they think. Yes.

Instead of the way you walk in and you want to get all these hard hitting questions, it's like, that's like, to me, the listener is certainly sitting on this set. I'm like, he just wants to explain from where they were to how they are now and why there's this, this clash of almost ways of life or, or even, you know, I just think of time, right? We look at time in North America differently than what you're talking about. And yet, we're a part of a larger civilization. And if we would just start to look at things different, we'd start to see how this, I don't I don't know, is it a game or what you want to call it being played out? I call it estrogen-based warfare.

Denying us, you know, how does estrogen fight wars? It warps reality. And it denies the masculine, the male. I don't like that term masculine, but, you know, it denies testosterone its own reality, its own recognition. And I'm not saying old women and all, you know, etc. That's not what I'm saying. but you know unhealthy estrogen it warps your sense of reality it's attacking you with things

that are either happened three years ago and have no value or meaning or or a dream that it had last night or or just completely artificial and fake but now it's been put out there in the world and you have to deal with it that's it's estrogen-based warfare that's what we're engaged in civilizations for all intents and purposes are male their testosterone now what makes that possible, the strong, healthy women, because they're the ones over any period of time who are the keepers of the civilization because male lines, patrilineal lines, father to son, rarely go beyond 200 years unbroken. Matrilineal lines, mother to daughter to daughter, can go hundreds of years unbroken. So in time, it is the women of the different cultures and then the civilization,

who are the ones that have control and power of most of the assets, at least substantive influence over them. And they put them, you know, find strong, capable men and put them in positions of power so that they can manage those assets and secure those assets. We don't have that here in the West anymore. Since Elizabeth I first and then really with the Englorious Revolution, We've been an unhealthy estrogen-based societies.

And, you know, our sense of reality, our sense of our history, our sense of our place, our ability to recognize ourselves, the actual, no-joke civilization has been denied to us, specifically to control us, to divide us, to keep us fighting each other. You know, if I sat here five years ago, I would have just tried to make it a simple, Not a, maybe simple isn't the way to put it. But I just always assumed, and I don't know if this is the right assumption from back then, because I'm very interested, you know,

like I find this civilization idea very, it's hitting me at the right time, I guess, because I've been trying to wrestle with how these different layers are playing out and the ripple effects down to the average person. You know, I get the idea of two giants fighting and me being a minion or an ant, run around, just don't get stepped on, and find a way to survive.

But actually, it's more of like, you're pointing out it's more of like a colony advance. And even if it gets stepped on, you just rebuild around it, right? It just becomes, you know, it doesn't mean people don't die. It doesn't mean there's a hardship, all these things, all very true.

Yes. But it actually is the stories of old that give a foundation to who we are today. Yes. It's a self-healing. So think of, telecommunications, right? Like communications technology, it's a mesh network. It's a self-healing, self-reparing mesh network.

Yes, parts of it can get wiped out. Yes, somebody can come and attack, whether it's from the inside, corrupted from the inside or from the out, but you can't actually wipe out the signal. It will reroute and reheal. It also is much like the brain, the way the brain works and brain injuries. Does that mean then, for the most part, that all wars are facilitated. You brought up the Dutch.

I'm just going to maybe simplify that to just like money, like people that want control of the power that comes with money, like the control of that network. Okay, so great question. I'm not sure of old wars, right? So I think I'd be caution there because there are ties when the two men in the bar do have to throw down. Because they've got to reset and say,

no, no, no, no, don't get ahead of yourself. Don't get above yourself. Don't get ahead of yourself. Don't think you can just push me around. Right. So there are times that, you know, there are conflicts that you just got to take on. But most of the time, yes, it's over assets. And over the, you know, the Venetians, you know,

really designed a system of Praetorian, a virtualized Praetorian Empire. system based around banking and control of the security services, you know, the Intel security services. If they can have those two where your house guard is pejorian assets, right, CIA, FBI, Greek, raise, Navy SEALs, SAS, right, MI6, MI5 people, well, they control power. They control, you know, the individuals, the individuals in control power, right? in positions of power. Why? They need to constantly recalateralize their power system. They have to foster wars to steal the collateral of other people to keep their whole Ponzi scheme going.

I had a guy on once and he was talking about, forgive me for butchering the story folks, but it was something similar to, or like, infrastructure to go to the north in Kand. I'm talking Northwest Territories. And, you know, and so they put out a list of like, here's all the problems you got to solve. And every time they get close to solving them all, we're talking caribou herds, we're talking, you know, like environmental, first nations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Every time they'd be like, okay, we got it. The person who was overseeing and say, no, that's not going to work. And he basically equated to they were justifying their job.

As soon as they finished the project, then they're out of a job. And so they had to perpetually keep it going because they've never solved that problem, or at least not yet, right? I guess if I take that thought process and push it over to all the three-letter agencies that are security, protecting the nation, if they drum up a new enemy, then they get to go and solve that problem. or at least have the financial backing to continue to monitor it and and skirmish and try and facilitate these things and it keeps the public giving them value i don't think it's

that i think it's way darker and worse than that okay that's all true i mean what you're saying absolutely true but it's far worse than that um tom and i talked about the financialist kill chain right they need a people to build up their own natural resources and organize their productivity to create collateralizable assets. But they need to do let and they need to control where and when that happens around the world because at some point they're going to need to use the martial capacities, the military martial capacities of some power to go attack those people and they got to settle all that up. And there's going to be pushed back, like Russia's now breaking free.

And there's going to be pushed back. China's broken free, et cetera. So you never know exactly when and where on this, you know, the great game chessboard. You're going to be able to the people are actually going to figure out how to come together and build some assets that you can come and steal and then do it in such a way that you can come and steal it. And you don't, you know, once you've infected a major host like what would become the British Empire, which is now totally expended to the point where they can't. they've been field 25,000 fighting men,

the same that they've been doing to the United States, where now we can't feel a healthy division of combat troops, you know, frontline combat troops. So if this complex weave of, you don't want people to develop themselves without you having your thumb and control on it, because then they might establish themselves as a power that can say no to you,

which is what Russia and China and Iran have done. It's what we're trying to do now. So it's a more complex weave of push, push back, intention, counterintention, et cetera. But it's all about this constant stream of conflicts that can shift and adjust in any form or fashion. It's also the way the Praetorian estrogen mind works. And this isn't just in women, right? Estrogen levels in males and estrogen-based kind of logic and thinking. I call it estrogen logic.

The way in which it works is it needs to keep you, it needs to keep everybody at every level in a constant state of unease and in a constant state of conflict. So that at any time it needs to flare something up somewhere to reset some power to itself or to take some assets, you know, or to drive the value of the assets down so you can buy them up on the cheap, that's what it does. So if you were to, you know, like, you know, you've been staring at, you know, how does the world work, right?

You dig and you dig and you go down one and you, you know, Ebb and weave, you go back to estrogen mindset, correct? Estrogen logic, yeah. Estrogen logic. Where was the earliest time frame you see this play out? Rome? No, it goes back to Egypt that we can see there. So I wrote a book called the Eternal War. and I've been following this.

I call them resentfuls in there. I take this all the way back to single cells. I believe very fundamentally that this is a fundamental property of life, and it's a forcing function that's built in by evolution to keep us constantly evolving. The problem is on the responsible side, you know, the counter side, the more testosterone logic. the estrogens as I call them now are generally you know because they're always actively engaged in trying to do this at every level everywhere they're generally in control of most things and

it's only in rare instances when the testosterone logic the testosterone step them say yeah we're not doing this anymore and are willing to fight it out in a nasty dirty you know weight you know knives in the back and assassinations and all that other stuff in surviving all that. And I put it this way. It's only when a man is willing or a healthy woman on the other side. It's not always just a male, right? But when the healthy spouse says,

I can't do this anymore and is willing to fight that out with a nasty, you know, counter spouse in the courts and deal with the wealth destruction and everything, in the reputation destruction and damage to the children and everything else that comes in that divorce, that balance gets reset. And this goes back a long, low, low, low, long ways. I think it's just built into us and it's a forcing function that keeps us evolving because

when when societies, when civilizations, when species stop evolving, they become very vulnerable to even the subtlest changes in the environment. So if you fast forward to today, where is the estrogen logic power station located? It's the five eyes. It's the five eyes. And they're the praetorian. They're the modern, you know, they're the modern Praetorians. They're the Praetorian Empire. They're the new Roman Empire for all intents. Western Roman Empire, by the way, because they're in direct conflict with Eastern Roman Empire, which is Russia and the Balkans. And, you know, Turkey's not there anymore, but, you know, the former Orthodox world.

Because that actually has the legitimacy through Constantine. The Western Roman Empire does not because that actual imperial, lineage died out and was killed. So we're fighting the same Praetorians that owned and controlled the Roman Empire, the Western Roman Empire for 300 years from Augustus to Constantine. What's every average day person supposed to do with that? You know, like, I'm like the five eyes. Okay.

Okay. All right. Like, you know, one of the most powerful things I think I witnessed in COVID time was just no. Not not doing that. And I've heard Tom and Alex, you know, multiple times say roughly the same thing. You know, you can just say no. You know, Tom's speech at the Cornerstone Forum this year was they give you the option of two doors.

Yeah. Well, nobody said you had to go through them. You could just close the door and be like, no, I'm not doing that. Well, that's my buddy Clay Martin would say. Just breached the wall. So to your point, yes. You have to say no. And what is the thing specifically that you're saying no to? Don't hate who they tell you to hate. Don't hate anybody. Do what you got to do. Do the hard things that got to be done. Like we're going to get rid of a lot of people from our countries. There should never have been here. But don't hate because what they want you to do is get into a place of anger and hate because, again, just like a woman in an argument or a gay guy in an argument, you know, an estrogen in an argument. They're going to try and push and push you. All your buttons are going to push everything to try and try. and get you into an emotional latent place where you lash out and then they're going to use that

against you so it's not just enough to say no it's what are we saying no to don't get angry about don't get angry at don't hate the people they are telling you to because that's a trick and they're going to use that against you do what you got to do do the hard shit do man shit do testosterone shit but don't ever hate or be you know don't ever malign or hate the ones that they're pointing you at because that's not where the problem is. That might be a problem, a very real problem, but it's not the problem. I assume you've seen the Godfather, yes?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I just wrote an article on it because, you know, I watched it in my 20s and I thought, to paraphrase what I wrote, I just was like, man, a lie. Why didn't, I just need to fast forward the last 20 minutes. That was the best part, right? And then, you know, fast forward 20 years. And I watched again, and I just thought,

this is absolutely brilliant. This is a brilliant movie. And Sunny represents, you know, the oldest Corleone, who's, you know, going to take over the empire, really represents a lot of humanity, you know, governed by their emotions. And how does the enemy lure them out is emotions. Very creatively, I might add. I don't think many of us wouldn't have went running out the door to go beat up the brother-in-law for beating your sister. Right? I mean, and he'd warned them earlier in the movie, except what was laying there?

Death. I mean, literally done. And I always, you know, after the movie's done, I'm like, man, yet they killed the wrong people, a wrong person in this case, right? Michael Corleone was the one you, Sonny was easy to control. His emotions are always going to dictate where he goes. Michael Corleon, on the other hand, I mean, he goes and wipes him out. And I don't know if I ever, you know, like Michael Corleone has his own problems, right,

as we see in the later movies. But there's like this, you know, this war. in the garden idea. Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. And there's many different different versions of this. Peterson has his own. And that emotion thing gets triggered all the time by media. They're just trying to like poke.

Who holds the media? Five eyes. Yeah. This is what's interesting about having conversations with Tom and Alex, yourself, others that are pushing people away from be mad at this person. Understand it's more of a design, an intricate web of how to push and pull on people so that they do what they want. We are, you know, everything that we see, again, in the five-eye own media, which includes Hollywood, et cetera, is about the dumb male, the emotion-driven

male. But if you look historically at all the, you know, the grace, that's actually the opposite. it. Right? And there's that Thucydides statement, right? And I think it's apocryphal, so I think somebody who said it's a barc. But I don't care. We'll go ahead and say the Thucydides statement because that's what it's out there is. Right. And, uh, you know, out of every hundred men, 10 shouldn't even be there. 80 or just, you know, body bags. Nine are real warriors and we're real fighters and we're fortunate to have them. One, one is a warrior and he'll bring all the others home. We've been focusing, you know, and allowing ourselves to be the 80 and the 10 right the 10 that shouldn't have been there in the 80 they're just body bags and we need to stop doing that we need to get back to having more nines and and identifying you know back to your comment about your question about what does the calling man do one don't hate what they who they tell you to hate don't be angry about what they tell you to be angry about that's all a trap always because a real man who's playing the game at the real level You want a prime example

Quite despite everything that we're doing against Russia Have you heard Putin speak with anger once Or hatred once? Not even implied Right? That's the one The longer it goes I try to always position him Listen I'm not pro Putin

But the longer I watch the guy The more he resembles a world leader I'd like to have Does he have the Russians interested heart? Absolutely. I think that's admirable. I don't think that's a bad thing. Like do we want to have the Carney here in Canada or the Starmer in England

or I can rattle off some other world leaders? Like I mean, Carney literally said he's a globalist, elitist. He doesn't serve what Canada best. You know, he's saying some interesting things right now. We'll see how that turns out. He served Larry Fink and Black Rock. That's who Carney. Europe has to have Canada for the natural resources.

That's the only collateral left in the world. It's the only place in the world where they can go take the country without massive armies and military capacities because they got none left. America won't do their wars anymore for them. Canada, they can just go play these games. And unless the Canadians are ready to secede or rise up, Canada's going to fall. We're watching it happen. I know Northwest Canada fairly well. I lived up on the border of Okinaw and British Columbia.

When I was a kid, I used to ride my horse in British Columbia three, four times a week. And I spent, I was on the White Horse River in 74 or 75 when the big earthquake hit. And the ice on the river was rippling. And so, I mean, I spent a lot of time in that part of the world. It's incredible. It's also fundamentally different than the same thing. centers of power on Canada. It certainly, well, I mean, that's why the independence conversation is so, yeah,

conversation of every, well, it's, it's just, you know, this morning, having morning coffee, that's, that's what came up again. Yeah. And, you know, it's, it's, it's simmering, I would say, or maybe it's more than that now. Maybe it's, it's, um, going out of the, the pot, so to speak, it's, it's bubbling over. Because, you know, like, you look at, I just. had Martin Armstrong on a few days ago. And him talking about, you know, like military draft and how they're going to be,

that's coming back. And you're going to start to see that being on. And I'm like, well, I don't want to go to war. I don't want my kids to go to no war. It was, oh, if, you know, if you separate, then you wouldn't have to. You wouldn't have to answer any call of that sort. So I said this about two years ago when they started snatching Ukrainian men off the street to go die in the front lines.

because that started a couple years ago. And I posted this on Twitter several times and had the little bots and the little DoD and CIA bots come after me and some actual people. But that's what I said. I said, if they try to do in the West what they've been doing in Ukraine, it ain't going to go as well for them and they will have some wars because we've had enough.

Right? There is a point where the man, and you know the healthy spouse will say that's it it is a divorce and they will fight you for it because they have to for the kids right for the family assets they know they have to and they know they're going to go through hell and they know you're going to put them through fucking hell probably for years but it has to be done or nothing survives and that's where we are in the west our enemies are not abroad our enemies are right here at home and our enemies is this you know, virtualized Praetorian Empire controlled through the five eyes and who and what they control.

And, you know, what do the common person do about this? Well, the peace which keeps us all from coming together and being able to effectively stand is that they've sold us this whole lie of liberal democracy and down with princes. Well, it turns out it was only the princes that were standing between, you know, know, the Praetorian regime and humanity for centuries. Personally, I believe fundamentally, that's why feudalism happened. It was a way to decentralize power so you could never have centralized power again, like the Roman Empire, like the British Empire, etc., where these Praetorians could get in there and take control.

You had to decentralize power, and that meant the princes had to have, you know, the oligarchs, you know, the good, healthy ones, the nobility, had to have their own security. their own intelligence, their own, you know, equivalent of nation-state capabilities. That's also why they fostered nation-states because then that centralized everything again. That's how libertarians work. So one of the things the common people can do is do a better job of, well, one, don't hate who you're told to hate, including princes, right? And two, ascertain who the good, solid leaders are in your community and really work that out. because when these fights come and happen, they happen at the local level.

They don't happen at some abstract national level. They don't happen at some abstract state level. When a gunfight happens, it happens in the physical proximity and geography that you're in. When they're setting up a guerrilla action somewhere, it happens in that local area. But we're all distracted over here on these higher level abstraction things, is if somehow we're going to win the conflict there. Those things have to happen, but that's playing way above our pay grade. What do you make a Trump versus Musk?

That was a loyalty test. Not a Trump, not so I put a meme out there, right? When loyalty tests happen, it's never about the two and the drama. It's about, so look at the timing of it. That was right after the strikes on Russia bond. on Russia, yeah. Which I almost guarantee you, I can't, but I almost guarantee you Trump didn't know about.

But some people around him did. And so you got a loyalty test. And there are people, you know, the fight in the West right now, the fight, the single greatest amount of estrogen logic, estrogen-based warfare, concentration of effort right now is to break Elon. and the whole tech world and everything from Trump and Trump, you know, the oligarch world. That's where every bit of estrogen logic, estrogen-based warfare is focused. So loyalty test is a pretty smart idea.

Break down a loyalty test for me. Back to the Godfather. In all three movies, there were loyalty test, trying to figure out who's loyal, who's not. And so what do you? You know, I did a, I wrote a book called The Art of Being a Man, and this is one of the rules. I can't remember off top of my head. But sometimes you've got to start some shit. See what comes back. See who gets on what side. And what arguments they use? And who the messenger they is that they use. And what is the actual message? Right. You have to give them the appearance of a split and a divide. And it's got to be real. It's got to be, you know, there's got to be substance too. it and you got to play it out. What you're really doing is looking to see who's going to get into what camp, who's going to send what messenger because that's telling you alliances. You need to know what actual message they're coming because that's telling you their intent. You see how they feed the information space to get that out there to support. But what are you doing? I'm an electrical

engineering by profession and background. And sometimes you pulse aboard with energy to see where the brakes are or where the, you know, the resistances or where the inductive reactants or the inductive capacitance. So you're Donald Trump. You're sitting there. You're trying to do a whole bunch of things. And things are getting shut down, attacked, etc. Russia gets attacked.

And I mean, they try and assassinate Putin. Yep. Now, you're the world leader or the top cheese. A factional leader. Correct, of the United States. And let's assume for a second, you had no idea what the heck is going on. Yep. Take Michael Corleone in the second movie when his family gets attacked, and he should know.

He's in the position of power. He's supposed to know. He's supposed to protect his family. But he literally didn't see it coming. Yep. why and so now he does a loyalty test to try and figure out where the rat is yep and so what you're saying is he does a loyalty test that is real in the sense that Elon Musk the most powerful business media guy in the united states for sure but in north america i'd argue for sure

Yeah. It's public. They go at each other. And what comes out of that is he gets to see where everybody goes. So then he can adjust and fix the problems that are happening behind the scenes. How did Putin? And also remember, they tried to shoot Trump live on national TV. Correct.

Okay. And there's no way that happened without help from the fight, you know, from inside. No way. Right. Okay. And everything's factional, right? There's always factions and everything. There's no absolute power ever. There's never been absolute power. Not even Saddam had absolute power. Gaddafi didn't have absolute power, right? It just doesn't work that way. Well, even if you had 99% of the people behind you, there's always going to be 1% that hates your guts and they want, do they want you out. That is in fact a faction. Fair enough. That is exactly true. And what does a faction want to do? They want to infiltrate so that they can try. undermine and gain power and dethrone you or remove you or what. I mean, the United States has exploited that in different countries over and over and over again.

Oh, we're doing it right now and what, probably 50 countries? Probably right now is you and I speak. 80 countries? Yeah. Okay. So back to this loyalty, Donald Trump doing that with Elon Musk. So, okay. Here's what we have to think.

How did Putin actually become? to Putin of today over the last 20 some odd years. Let's take out the last 15. Let's go back to the first four or five years. How do he survive? How did he work out all of those foreign Praetorian elements, you know, Western banks and corporations and all the people within his own government

and all the different governments at different levels, et cetera, and academia and banking and business, et cetera? How do you work all that out? How do he suss all that out? He didn't go out just per. verge and kill bunch of people. That didn't happen, right? Wouldn't work anyways because people had just come out of the Soviet area and they were freaking killed him. But how do he survive? With all those traders internal, you know, traders to their own civilization and their own country

inside that we put there in the, you know, early 1990s and all the way up through the late 90s. How did Xi do it? How did Xi survive the last 13 years? And don't worry about it. And don't worry about the last five or six, let's go back, you know, first, you know, day zero to, you know, day 1,000 or whatever, 130 or whatever the hell you want, you know, how do they survive in an environment where, you know, where there's factions and at least one of the major factions, if not two or more, and usually there's about three major factions, right, and then all the sub stuff, at least one of the other major factions, if not both are dead set against you. How do you survive? How do you work that out? How do you how do you get to a place to where your nation and your state are actually powerful? And you've got all these external forces, right? All this Praetorian five-eye effort to try and prevent you from doing that in your own country. And they got no problem trying to kill you. Right? They're probably trying to kill you every day. They try to kill Trump on live TV. Right? So how the hell does in your house guard? You can't trust them because in the

United States, if you're an ultra-high networked individual and you have your own security, they come out of like one of five entities, which are all interrelated. They're all connected to the CIA in some point, right? Whether it's the FBI, CIA, you know, usually a ground branch, right? Navy seals, green berets, maybe sometimes, you know, local law enforcement, but, you know, if you're anybody of sufficiency and you have a real security team, it comes, Generally, they have direct connections to the CIA. So your own house guard is a threat.

And how are you going to survive that? And your kids and your grandkids. And it's not just you as the quote unquote pinnacle leaders, all these other leaders and judges and sheriffs. And you think sheriffs just because they carry a gun aren't threatened and aren't in danger? So how do you do that? How do you walk through this complex protection?

control systems such that you can break free of the Praetorian regime or Praetorian system and get to somewhere where your civilization and people can thrive you know remove this parasite the whole time it's not just the mortal danger you're in your reputation you know they're coming at your reputation wise relationship watch you know they're working at all these estrogen warfare you know estrogen-based warfare ways to prevent you from having the power and capacity to do it needs to be done for your people. You have the loyalty test. And you got to suss people out and you

got to pulse that every once in a while. That's also, there's another test there as well as how much danger am I really in? How imminent is their next attempt to kill me? Because that's where we are in the United States right now. The United Kingdom is done, right? Unless we all recognize ourselves as the English civilization and we go back and tear out this parasit, you know, parasitized five-eye fricentatorian empire that's been destroying the English-speaking peoples for 340 years. But it has to happen here. And this is, the United States right now is the same as Constantinople in the Eastern Roman Empire in the late, well, early 4th century. under constantine constantine had to you know and all that had been set up for a while and i think

most of this has been started since the 1960s when they killed the kennedy's they set their they set their counter in motion when they killed the kennedys and they killed others right they set this this counteraction in motion where elites true elites realized the elite women in particular realize we're going to have to remove this parasite we're going to have to find fight this out or we're done. And I think that started in the 1960s, and we're now coming to the culmination of it. Will it succeed?

I don't know. Would I be fair in saying that COVID was a loyalty test? And my brain goes to, you know, like, in tough times you realize what people are actually made at them, right? That's why, you know, as a hockey player, I have a ton of time. Well, I just have a ton of time for the sport. But like, you go through play.

playoffs and as you get beat and as you get war down, you see what everyone's made at it. Yeah. And maybe there's a ton of times where the average person gets, gets to see their other, you know, like participants in humanity and see what they're made out of. But COVID, for a lot of people, you got to see what a lot of people are made out of. It's really binded a lot of people together because of choices made of how they acted, whether they held firm or went along, whether, you know, all these different things. And it was almost a giant loyalty test in a weird way because, I mean, obviously, I highly doubt that's what the powers of B were thinking. But that's exactly what happened.

It's just two camps. Maybe multiple more. It was multiple. So there are two resentfuls factions and then one responsible's faction. And the two resentful factions of the Marxist and, you know, the Nazis really, fascism is Bonito Mussolini. We already had fascism, you know, corporate-wise, government interface, you know, with the revolving doors of the regulators, et cetera, as Bonito Mussolini laid out in 1932.

But there's the Nazi, you know, eugenicist faction. And then there's the Marxist, not eugenicist, but just ideological genocide group, right? And you're absolutely right. It was a loyalty test. But it was a loyalty test by those two factions, not by the responsiveness faction. It was a test to see if they actually had total control. And the problem for them is that 40% of the people didn't go along with it. And they realized, oh, we don't have total and absolute control.

We're going to have to work on this some more. And that's why they put Biden in there. That's why they put, you know, forced it and made sure Biden happened. And then they were trying to do Kamala Harris. But it's funny, the more they do things like that, the more they show themselves. Correct. Correct. So there, I hate to say this, but there is a thing, you know, Crypto Rich and I talk to this, right? The Sport of Kings, it's something we need to understand.

when you are occupied by a very insidious but very ruthless and very murderous power, parasite, you don't take, I'll go down the path to the candida, look at candida and how it works in the body. But you can't, sometimes you have to, sometimes you have to let them do what they're going to do so that they show themselves. sometimes they are so insidious and so they've warped people's reality so much that you need the people to see their malevolence and you got to let some things happen you got to let things play out and you got to live with that right my mother used to tell me that I needed to be ruthless of myself when I was a young boy she said you need to be ruthless of yourself and what she meant is not the Jackal Willick or the David Goggins kind of thing.

You have to make decisions that are very hard for yourself and other people, and then you have to live with the knowledge that you did that, but you have to do it. And you have to be ruthless with your own emotions. You have to be ruthless with your own need to feel safe and secure and that you live in a happy, comfortable world. So sometimes, you know, on the resentful side, COVID was a loyalty test. It was a test to see if they were in total and control when it turns out they weren't. On the other side, on the responsible side, it's we're going to have to go to war with these, I mean, actual no shit, war with these fuckers.

And we need to draw them out into the open. I also suspect that's why they put Trump out in front because he's actually clean. That's why they had to come up with all these lawsuits. that are just completely counter to common law, have no grounding the constitutionality, and just go after them as hard as they could because if they had anything on him that was real, they would have used that a long time ago.

So that's why Trump was put out front as the guy to draw these people out, draw it all out in the open so everybody can see it. This loyalty test thing, I'm going to have to stew on this for a bit because, like, you know, on the largest sense it's there, but on the individual sense, It's you can, you know, you're having, well, I don't know, I just, I sit and think about myself, folks, for a second, I guess.

And, but I would push on all the audience to think about it for a bit. I just think of when I, when I switch from doing sports and talking mainly to athletes to talking to COVID, that was in fact, not by design, folks, not by design. I wasn't, I wasn't, but it was a loyalty test. There's been people that have been along the ride from there. and that has gone through different iterations. And I didn't think that was, I don't know what I thought I was doing. I was just following my curiosity and where that led. But in fact, it was a type of loyalty test.

Like, because you have seen different people, companies stand beside you and others fall away. Yes. Yes. And what is, and that work. Yeah. And what does that do? It either pulls you apart and you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, Or it pulls you even tighter together to where there's almost something that can't break that bond, if you would.

I think of, you know, we started a book club, five of us in 2018. And you can't recreate what that book club's gone through. It's not impossible. You just have to wait for the circumstances to play themselves out. But, I mean, 2018, we weren't thinking about COVID. And then COVID happened. And those conversations and actions through that time would either pull it up. apart or made it to where it was so tight there's nothing that can break it i want to um

shift gears a little bit but not because i'm interested in one getting this out there to see what comes back but following on from the loyalty test you know there's the scene in the second movie where michael kisses his brother and says i know it was you freedo and then he tells the guys you know the guy and he all you know when they're sitting there's And then the office says, not well, our mother's alive. Yeah. I suspect that when her majesty died, mother died. And now what's coming is coming.

That's an interesting thought. Because if you look, right, you look at the timing of all that, right? Man, you know, the Godfather movies are just so brilliant. It's almost insane to watch them. Because even to be like Not Well Mother's alive, you know, you go back to your earlier point on, you know, the, how women and daughters can carry on the line for, you were saying, hundreds of years. Yeah, thousand.

Yeah. It's, you got to be careful. I guess what, what I took from, or taking from what you're talking about is just how careful you have to be about the repercussions of your actions while things are in play and while things haven't been put into play yet. There are times, this gets back to the civilization conversation because what is a civilization? It is a family. It is a family of peoples and it's a big family and it's broad and it's got all these complexities,

but it's a family. Civilization binds people together in ways that nothing else comes close to except family, especially long-lived families, right? There comes times. When we let our external enemies know, you can't hurt us, you can't harm us right now, we're going to clean house, we're going to fix our own house, we're going to clean up the family, we're going to deal with our internal problems. If you try to move against us, we will hurt you. So don't use this opportunity as we're cleaning up the family, as we're restoring our civilization, to try and move against us. And I suspect that's what we're seeing. I suspect that's the conversations that are being had.

And extraordinarily, Putin and Xi and Iran, right, the Supreme Leader, understand what we're doing because they've all been through this in the last. Iran's a little different. They did there as 40-some-odd years ago. But Russia and China have been through this in the last 20. And they know what we're dealing with. They know what's happening because they had to do it themselves. themselves. And they don't want to move against us because that that imbalances the world in ways

that could be unbelievably unpredictable and dangerous. They want the United States and the English civilization to be strong and healthy because we provide a balancing force out of the world when we're not occupied and owned by this five-eye virtual Praetorian Empire. Again, back to the fat and back to the Godfather. What did Michael Giorleone do in the first movie? You let them know you can't hurt. We got some stuff we got to do. We got to clean some stuff up. We got to deal with our own internal stuff.

But one, we're going to pay you back for what you did. And two, know that if you move against this while we're doing this, the second movie, right? We will mess you up. We're still going to do what we got to do it. We've got to clean our own house. But if you move against this, we will hurt you. And that's where we are in the world. world. And it's, again, it's almost uncanny, right? That's her majesty on my wall over there,

right? It feels very much like not what mother's alive. One mother died some years ago, and maybe they killed her. I don't know about that, but people talking. It's not like they haven't killed a king before or president. And there's nothing more, I don't know, the word that comes of mine is annoying if I was trying to control someone or push them around is somebody who's got their shit taken care of. Yeah. It's just like, no, I'm not interested in that. What?

No, you have to. No, I'm not doing that. Yeah. I'm no longer playing your game. I'm no. I'm no. Actually, just for the listener, had Tom on a, I don't know, was that two weeks ago? Mm-hmm.

And we were talking about his favorite book, Ubek. yeah and Philip K. Dick and so I finished it and then I read the next one the three stigmatas of oh forgive me regardless at the end of it the main character says I'm just not I'm not doing that anymore nope I'm done I'm done I'm not I'm not doing your game anymore I'm allow it to play out because you need me to go do and I'm not doing anymore. And the main villain of the story is annoyed by him immensely because he's no longer doing and being influenced by what he's pushing on it. Yeah.

And to me, the more of us that become like that, the better off will be. The better off of our civilization will be. Absolutely. You mentioned greats. You said, look at the greats. Who are the greats in your mind? As much as I'm not a fan of, I think Cromwell was a great. Cromwell started down a pathway where he went and was tearing down the crown and the nobles and everything else.

And at some point he stopped, pulled his horse up hard and went, wait, we're being invaded. We're being manipulated by continental Europeans to take us over. And he fought it until the end of his life. And he tried to train his son how to do it. His son wasn't strong enough. So Cromo. Another one is Napoleon, because this is what Napoleon was doing. Napoleon, again, was led to believe, you know,

as the young Corsican officer, to believe that, you know, down with princes, no more princes. We need to, you know, free the people and give power to the people. And then at some point he pulled his horse up. He went, wait, wait, wait, wait, we're being destroyed from the outside. We're being, you know, somebody's setting us up to steal all of our assets and take everything. And we need to, somebody's got to pick up the crown and wear it and make sure, which is what Cromwell basically did.

Ryan Napoleon said, I found the crown in the gutter and somebody had to wear it. When you're talking Cromwell, are you talking Oliver Cromwell? Oliver, yeah. Yeah, the Civil War, the roundheads. So I'm, if you look at. Alexander the Great, Ragnar Lofbrook, Changus Khan, Napoleon, pretty much those in order,

in terms of the scope and scale of what they were able to accomplish and how they changed the world. There's a theme that runs through all of them in the writings of like Ptolemy around Alexander the Great and why he did what he did. The secret histories of the Mongols, about why Chenghis Khan did what he did. They were all in their own time and way

trying to defeat this, you know, estrogen-based warfare that had, you know, come to conquer and destroy and, you know, passive-aggressively own and manipulate their people. And no matter how foreign they went with their conquering, they kept finding the same, you know, the same manipulative, deceptive,

passive-aggressive parasitism. all four of them shared that motivation. Cromwell, you know, stopped. Cromwell had no intention to be, I mean, but, you know, look what Cromwell did the Irish. It's just unreal, right? Unreal. So I look at those four grades.

I think there's some, you know, I think Cromwell for a period of time, not his whole, right, but for a period of time when he realized, oh, holy cow. But in fairness on Cromwell, I don't, you know, like this is the first time I've heard, Oliver Cromwell, if I'm being completely honest. And I look at that and I go, but part of the journey is him doing something

and then changing. You need to have that context. Correct. Correct. Because if you just focus on the end, you miss, it's the Michael Corley. Well, you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know, right? Right.

Michael Corleone did not want to be the king. Correct. He didn't want to be the dog. But at some point, he realized somebody's got to pick up the ring. Right? Somewhere along the journey. of doing what he thought was the right thing to do to preserve the family.

That's civilization, right? A king or a great leader. At some point when they realize, holy cow, there's a whole lot more going on here. You know, when they actually get into that seat and now they can see all these things, they realize, oh, my God, there's all this other stuff going on behind the scenes that nobody else can see. And I'm sitting here looking at it and I'm having to figure out how the hell do I plot a course

through all this so that the family, civilization, survives all of this rot in, you know, internal and external. How do we survive this? And then every minute of the day in every way possible being under attack, you've got to plot your way through that. And most fail. Most fail in that they never get to see in that, you know, the seven elements of power, right? Like we talked about earlier, diplomacy, information, military, marshal, economics, finance, intelligence, and law enforcement, which really should be legal, right? When you finally get into a position of understanding or a position of authority where you can see at the highest levels across all seven of those, and you have had enough time and energy and effort to know how to integrate those together,

a whole other world opens up, and you're like, oh, my God, that's happening over there. you know, you just start seeing all these other, you know, hidden forces that, you know, Markovian like hidden forces that are working to tear things apart from inside and outside. And you have to plot a course that virtually nobody else is going to understand until they see the outcome of it. And even then they won't understand what the hell you, you know, how you had to piece it all together and put it all together and stay alive and keep them alive and make sure those assets didn't get destroyed.

that revenue stream didn't disab- you know what I mean? It's all this unreal complexity. Most people aren't, most people you know, again, this is the sport of kings and vast numbers of people, 99.99% of people have ever lived, have never played the sport of kings.

They never even thought of the sport game. Or never even thought of it. Right? Thought they did. Yeah, or they just want to, you know, there's a great great book, Zorba and that's over the Greek. Oh, I love,

oh, I love Zover the Greek. Yeah. And there's a part in it where he goes, boss, why are you trying to wake up all these people?

They just want to go to the beach and enjoy their family and, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Right? There's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah. Sean, you're the first one to bring up Zorver the Greek reference in many, many, many years.

And man, I really love that book. I love the Anthony Quinn character, you know, portrayal of it in the old, it was a 19, early 1950s movie, right? So great reference. Well, it's funny. I interviewed, um, um, call him Uncle Bob. It's, it's, it's, uh, I don't need to get in the, the Newman family, uh, lineage.

But regardless, we call him Uncle Bob. And he's a man who's traveled the world. And we don't see the world the same way. But in fairness, he has a rich experience to pull from on traveling the world and just some almost unbelievable stories. And when I was, you know, pushing on him, you know, like what's one of the books that really impacted your life? He said, sort of great, hands down. And so, you know, I take that and I'm like, okay, this is a guy I respect. He's been everywhere in the world, you know, if there's 200 some countries, he's been to a hundred-some countries.

He's been to over 100 plus, you know, as a traveler. He is, you know, and one of the things is, what's wrong with Canada? Like, why is it that, you know, we're on the trajectory? He said, we lack vision. And I was like, we lack vision. So yeah, politicians lack where it's all the things you just said. Because a vision doesn't mean, oh, I want to get over there. But you've got to do all the different things you're talking about and try and wrestle.

And at times you're going to be demonized because people can. can't see where you're going and yet you can see the finished product and I might even you know I'm in the process yeah I'm building a new podcast studio now this is a very you know we're talking six months to get to where you know and some people see the idea before it was ever anything and they go oh yeah that makes sense and others are like you know I was just had a buddy and his wife in showed Ken and Jen and I think it was Jen who said you know when I was sitting here when you first started I just couldn't see it now she's like this is something. That's a very small example of and the consequences are you know very very small I would say.

I don't know where the ripple effects of the podcast, you know, reach out to. But, you know, the idea in itself of just transforming a building is pretty small. But the example can be extended to somebody at the head of state if they have an idea of where we need to get to. Man alive. People are not going to understand, you know. So give me a second, okay? Because this is a great way to bring it back. And then I've probably got a few more minutes. No, no, no.

I'm keeping track of time. I appreciate it. We are definitely going to have to continue this chat because I had like three other questions. I'm like, we haven't. Remember what I said to you? I said, I'm like, I got all these questions. Chance I'm going to ask one and we're going to be off and running and we have been. It's been regardless.

Finish your thought. I appreciate. So, you know, bringing it back to the beginning, but very well tied in with what you just articulate. The reason in which Michael Corleone was able to do what he was able to do is because there was a clear understanding of this is the Corleone family. It has its own culture. It's its own history, its own experiences, its own networks, its own power circles, its own obligations, its own commitments, its own mistakes and failures and redemption path and all of that. We are a civilized. It's what allowed them, you know, other.

who couldn't see the whole thing to still commit to and be part of this and do the loyalty test and take care of the problems, right? We have to remember that we are a civilization, that the thing that we are about is sustaining and expanding and evolving and improving our civilization. We have our own redemption arc we have to go through, particularly given the last 340 years that we've been and occupied people at the top. So when you recognize yourself as a civilization as a great people with a long history, with obligations and commitments and favors owed and beautiful art and creation and construct, you know, all these extraordinary things, then it's easier.

It's capable for the buy into, okay, I don't quite understand. where that's going. But I know that there, and this is why Putin was able to beat Putin in Russia's resurgent, quite despite our entire attempts with communism, then after to tear it down. It's the same with the Chinese and why they survived the opium wars and why they survived the communist and why they've been able to prevent this kill chain from killing them in the 2010s, etc. It's because there are civilizational people, and even though in China's case, over a billion people couldn't know what the hell the plan was. They didn't care because, well, I mean, they did care and they get involved and they're participating, but they know that Xi is trying to save and keep their civilization going. And they have that history of times that it's failed, you know, times it's gone down.

Well, the English civilization is 1,100 years old, 1,200 years old. It's extraordinary. We've done extraordinary things, particularly given the fact we've been occupied at the top, at the level of the crown and governments, et cetera, here. For 340 years, we've still done extraordinary things because we are a civilizational people. And that makes it easier that when you're rebuilding your studio, it makes it easier for other people to get involved in help, even though they don't know exactly where it's. going or why they can't see it etc because they know that you're trying to carry on the traditions you're trying to expand upon you're trying to improve you know the community in your case that you are a major moving component piece of so we have got to we're not going to make it by

the way and this is also by they're flooding our countries with foreigners who have no part in our civilization and will never acclimatize a culture rate to our civilization civilization. It's why they're flooding us. Those people have to go, but we're never going to get rid of them. We're going to have weaponized estrogen based logic running everything if we don't remember that we are a civilizational people and we, that civilization is still here, it's still strong, still extraordinary. It needs to be cleaned up right now and we need to get rid of these people and we need to get back to who and what we are. We can help them in their own damn countries. We don't need them here as a slave class. That's not us who's trying to do that anyways. It's the people who are trying to destroy us. They're doing that. Because they're slavers. That's exactly what they are.

That's the five eyes. You know, the virtualized Vittorian, you know, empire. And they've got to go. Russia's kicked them out. Iran's kicked them out. Persia. China's kicked them out. And now it's our turn to kick their asses out.

E.M., I appreciate you hopping on. and well we'll have to have a chat because I've got some other things I wanted to bring up with you because there's some interesting thoughts there now you've rattled off like 18 things the guy's got to go look into which is a good thing but appreciate you hopping on and doing this and if people haven't listened to you in crypto rich they should if they you know I know my audience has a ton of time for Tom Longgo he's also had you on and there's some different places to find your your thoughts but on on On X, what is your handle for people looking for you? Yeah, EM Berlin Game. I just go ahead and use my own name since I'm out there in the world. I appreciate that, to be honest. Yeah. Thanks again for doing this.

All right, Sean. Thanks for the invitation and talk to you again.